Session 80: Wallows

Summary

Session 80: Wallows Podcast: Therapuss with Jake Shane
Release Date: July 3, 2025

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1. Episode Introduction

Timestamp: [00:37]

Jake Shane kicks off Session 80 of Therapuss by expressing his excitement about featuring Wallows, marking the first time the show hosts all three members—Dylan, Brayden, and Cole—in the same episode. He highlights their recent Model and More Tour and announces their upcoming performances at Lollapalooza and with My Chemical Romance at Dodger Stadium on July 26th and 27th. Additionally, Jake praises Lorde's new albums, dubbing her work a "manifesto for people in their 20s."

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2. Guest Introduction: Wallows

Timestamp: [03:24]

Shane warmly welcomes the members of Wallows, expressing his initial nervousness about hosting all three simultaneously. He congratulates them on reaching a billion streams, saying, “Congrats on a billion streams, by the way” ([03:33]).

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3. Band Origins and Early Experiences

Timestamp: [08:39]

The conversation delves into how Dylan and Brayden met during their childhood in Indiana through their parents' involvement in acting. They reminisce about their first encounter at a Cheesecake Factory, bonding over shared interests despite the exhaustion of constant touring.

Notable Quote:

• Dylan: “Mexico's incredible. We love being there... So it's just like. We didn't really sleep at all.” ([04:39])

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4. Touring and Performances

Timestamp: [12:37]

Wallows shares memories of attending and performing at iconic venues like Lollapalooza and the House of Blues in Chicago. Dylan recounts their chaotic experience parking their tour bus amidst a major game day at Ohio State, highlighting the unpredictability of their touring life.

Notable Quote:

• Dylan: “And then we were like, this guy's really good. We should... play together.” ([18:28])

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5. Acting Ventures and Personal Stories

Timestamp: [14:00]

The band members discuss their acting experiences, with Jake mentioning his role in an ABC show called Betrayal and Dylan reflecting on his involvement in 13 Reasons Why and other projects like Stepfather. They share how these acting roles influenced their musical journey.

Notable Quote:

• Jake: “I was 21 when we put out our first song, so I don't know where time goes.” ([08:24])

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6. Formation of Wallows

Timestamp: [46:35]

Shane inquires about the origin of the band's name. Jake explains that it was inspired by a skateboarding game, Tony Hawk's Underground, where Wallows was a famous skate spot in Hawaii. The name was chosen after several other less favored options were considered, symbolizing their start from humble and playful beginnings.

Notable Quote:

• Jake: “We were trying to rename the band we originally called the Fever... and then Wallows popped into the brain because I remembered it from the game.” ([46:35])

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7. Musical Influences and Favorite Bands

Timestamp: [49:12]

The discussion shifts to musical tastes, with each member sharing their favorite bands and songs. Jake and Dylan express their admiration for The Beatles, while Brayden credits The Strokes and Kings of Leon as significant influences. They also touch upon their shared love for South Park and its creators, Trey Parker and Matt Stone.

Notable Quote:

• Dylan: “Kings of Leon are a huge one for me. They're three brothers and a cousin, so they're a family band.” ([50:31])

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8. Personal Habits and Preferences

Timestamp: [36:39]

The band members delve into their personal habits, such as their preferences in food and beverages. Shane reveals his love for Greek yogurt with honey, whereas Jake mentions enjoying vegetable stir fry. They also discuss their mutual fondness for coffee over tea, sharing their favorite local spots in Los Angeles.

Notable Quote:

• Shane: “My whole life just over a bed of white rice.” ([40:54])

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9. Pinch Me Moments and Memorable Experiences

Timestamp: [55:10]

Wallows shares their most significant "pinch me" moments—those experiences that feel surreal and unbelievable. Jake cites being on the podcast as a major milestone, while Dylan recounts attending Coachella for the first time, dealing with technical difficulties, and unexpectedly meeting iconic artists like Morrissey from The Smiths.

Notable Quote:

• Dylan: “Morrissey came to a show we played a couple of years ago... And then the day of the show, they're like, he's coming.” ([58:00])

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10. Advice Segment: Tell Me What's Wrong

Timestamp: [64:52]

In the therapy segment, listeners submit personal issues requiring advice. Shane presents two scenarios:

1. Friendships Bringing Out the Worst:

   • Shane: “I have two friends who I feel bring out the worst in me... What should I do?” ([72:08])
   • Advice: Dylan suggests recognizing the harmful dynamics and gradually distancing oneself, while Brayden emphasizes finding activities that attract new, positive friendships.

2. Post-Breakup Complications:

   • Shane: “I saw my ex at a party... Should I just leave him?” ([73:14])
   • Advice: The hosts recommend setting boundaries, such as blocking his number and focusing on personal growth to move forward.

Notable Quotes:

• Jake: “Block his number. Just cold turkey him.” ([76:01])
• Shane: “I'm gonna get sent a lot of Taco Bell.” ([61:02])

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11. Closing Remarks

Timestamp: [81:03]

As the episode winds down, Jake summarizes key takeaways from the session:

• Shane discovered his dislike for pizza.
• Dylan acknowledged the deepening of their friendship.
• The group plans to create a Wallows + Therapuss group chat to stay connected.

They conclude with light-hearted banter and a collective sentiment of camaraderie and mutual support.

Notable Quote:

• Jake: “We’re best friends now.” ([81:43])

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Key Takeaways

• Wallows shares their journey from childhood friendships to becoming a successful band with notable performances and personal growth.
• The hosts discuss the importance of shared experiences, personal preferences, and overcoming challenges both personally and professionally.
• Through the advice segment, the episode emphasizes self-awareness in relationships and the significance of setting healthy boundaries.

Notable Quotes

• Jake Shane: “My mind is blanking on all memories.” ([12:16])
• Dylan: “We're about to have fond memories of it.” ([11:48])
• Shane: “I think we have a kismet thing with us.” ([41:44])

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Transcript

[Jake]

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[Shane]

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[Jake]

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[Shane]

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[Jake]

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[Shane]

Hi, welcome back to Therapists. I'm finally home in Los Angeles. I'm so, I feel so grateful that I'm home. I've missed my bed so much and I have a new blanket to sleep with. I don't know if this isn't sponsored, but Lola Blankets sent me like these blankets and they are actually like, this actually is. And I just obsessed with them. They're the softest blankets I've ever slept with in my entire life. Or I napped with one yesterday and it like actually changed my life. I really am excited to just sleep and relax. But we just did Radio City, which was like that little actual craziest thing of my entire life. I still like, haven't really. I like think I processed it in the moment. And then the other yesterday was like, oh, no. That was really, really, really cool. I think I was just so stressed out that day that like, I couldn't even like understand what was happening. Like, but then yesterday I was like, okay, no, that was awesome. And it's all because of you guys. So thank you so much. And we only have five more shows of this tour, which is insane and I finish it up next week. But tonight on Therapist we have Wallows. It's the first time we ever had three people in the room before to do it. Dylan, Brayden and Cole are awesome. We had such a good time. It was so fun. They just finished their Model and More tour if you got a chance to see them. If not, they are also performing at Lollapalooz and with My Chemical Romance at Dodger Stadium July 26th and 27th. I, if I'm here, will definitely be at their show at Dodger Stadium because that sounds awesome and I feel like we're friends after this. Like, they're really the best. Like, I'm really excited for you guys. See the episode. They're so awesome. Also, their EP More is out now. If you haven't heard it yet, it's amazing. You should listen to it. There's so many, so much good music out now. The new Lord albums out, which is seriously incredible. Like, I so like, I can't even really get into it because, like, I know, like, we are so lucky to have Lorde in the sense that, like, she. Like, that album is going to be a manifesto for people in their 20s. Like, if you don't get it now, you will get it. Like, I don't know how to explain it to you. Like. And, like, if you want to argue with me about it, just save your breath because I don't care. It really is so, so incredible. I'm obsessed with it, and lord is amaz. I'm just. I can't. I still can't believe she was, like, in this room and we spoke and she was on the show, which is insane. To see if I'm coming to a city near you. Go to passthatpost.com and click Live with Jake Shane. And to submit a tell me what's wrong. Go to passthatpost.com and click Tell me what's wrong. And leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Enjoy tonight's episode. Love you, pussies. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to therapists. Today we have on wallows. Hey, guys.

[Dylan]

How are.

[Shane]

Oh, my God, you guys. I don't know why you made me so nervous, but we've never had three people, let alone known three guys in the room before.

[Jake]

We are the mailman.

[Shane]

You are the mailman. And congrats on a billion streams, by the way of. Are we bored yet?

[Dylan]

Thank you so much.

[Shane]

Yep.

[Dylan]

I appreciate it.

[Shane]

Yeah, no, that's amazing. Why did that. When did that song really take off? When you released it or what was a vibe?

[Jake]

I mean, not really. I mean, yes and no. I think it kind of got. It kind of. Kind of had its moment during 2020, actually, which is interesting. 100, so. Yeah.

[Shane]

And what'd you guys release it?

[Jake]

2019.

[Dylan]

2019. It was. It took a while. Like, I feel like it took maybe like a year and a half for it to really take off. Like, at the time, it was doing well for us by our standards at the time. But then it took on a new Standard In. In 2020.

[Shane]

Was Claro on the original or was she on the remix?

[Jake]

Original. OG huh?

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Wow. I love Claro.

[Dylan]

Have you talked to her before?

[Shane]

Yeah, I love her.

[Dylan]

Okay, There you go.

[Shane]

Yeah. What you guys up to?

[Dylan]

We are.

[Shane]

I know how to start. Like, I've never had three people on before.

[Jake]

Well, what are we up to?

[Dylan]

Three times the fun three times.

[Jake]

Yeah, I mean, I. What have we. What have we been up to, boys? We've been touring, tour, and we just.

[Dylan]

Got back from Mexico.

[Shane]

How was good?

[Dylan]

It was exhausting, though. Like, Mexico's incredible. We love being there. But we were like. We had a couple days in Mexico City first with, like, press and stuff, but then we. We'd play a show and the show late, wake up at, like, five in the morning, go to the airport, fly to the new city, play, repeat. So it's just like. We didn't really sleep at all. So I feel like I've been catching up on sleep since I've been back here.

[Shane]

I got it, got it, got it.

[Dylan]

By the time this airs, I'll be very well rested, I'm sure, at that point. But right now I'm like, I've been sleeping long since I've been back.

[Shane]

What's the longest you've ever slept?

[Jake]

Dylan sleeps long and hard.

[Dylan]

For sure, coming from you.

[Jake]

No, that was.

[Dylan]

You're being sarcastic.

[Jake]

I was being sarcastic. Oh, yeah.

[Shane]

How long have you. So as long as you slept for.

[Jake]

One of the hardest you've slept for.

[Shane]

I bet you I got you beat.

[Jake]

What's up?

[Shane]

I bet you I got you beat. Okay.

[Jake]

I've probably slept the longest for about maybe like a good. Like a good, like, 12 hours more.

[Dylan]

Dude, I think you've done more. You've done more.

[Jake]

Oh, probably like, maybe like 15.

[Shane]

Okay. I did 19 the other day.

[Jake]

Holy.

[Brayden]

The other day.

[Dylan]

I've never.

[Shane]

You want to know why? I got an IV. I get IVs once a week, and I got. I got an IV with Benadryl in it.

[Jake]

Did you see the Benadryl man?

[Shane]

No, but it was like anesthesia. Oh, that's not how you pronounce. It was. I got Benadryl in it. And then my vision started getting fuzzy. This was about. Let's call it 11. So at 12, I fell asleep until 8pm and then at 8pm I woke up. I was like. And then I ate for, like, 20 minutes and went back to bed and woke up the next morning. And then my mattress tracks how long I sleep for. So 19.

[Dylan]

Whoa.

[Jake]

Wow.

[Brayden]

Oh, my God.

[Dylan]

Wow.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Brayden]

Did you feel incredible after?

[Shane]

No, I was like, oh, my God. I just skipped a day.

[Dylan]

She is a penitential and an IV straight to the bloodstream.

[Jake]

Yeah, I mean, that sounds. I mean, I. I do enjoy Benadryl, actually.

[Shane]

Same. I've been taking it since I was 12.

[Jake]

It's one of those weird, like, fun things, you know?

[Shane]

You know when you, like, try to stay awake on it a little bit.

[Jake]

And you're like, yeah, the Benadryl man. You know about the Benadryl man, right?

[Shane]

No, I don't want to Know about that?

[Jake]

It's a real thing.

[Shane]

What is that, like, Slender Man?

[Jake]

Yeah, if you take too much Benadryl, you see the Benadryl man. Miss. Miss Auntie Stisha.

[Dylan]

What is.

[Jake]

She comes to get you? It's so if you take, like, five, six. Don't do it. No one do it. Actually, I've never done it. It's like an urban legend. It's like the spaghetti man. Or the funny spaghetti man.

[Dylan]

Wait, and who's that? Okay, you have to tell us about the Benadryl man and now the spaghetti man.

[Jake]

So. Yeah, too much spaghetti. You see spaghetti if he takes too much Benadryl, apparently. You see the Benadryl man, he's like this figure that, like, shows up and it's really scary. And then the spaghetti man is. Isn't it? That isn't like an urban legend thing?

[Brayden]

The flying spaghetti monster?

[Jake]

Yeah, that one. The flying spaghetti.

[Brayden]

Is that what you.

[Jake]

It's like. It's like old school. It's like old school. Computer logic. Dumb.

[Shane]

How old are you guys?

[Jake]

15.

[Shane]

Okay. Yeah.

[Jake]

How old are you? Before I answer, guess. I feel like you could be anywhere from, like, 19 to 28.

[Shane]

Hey, so pick an age.

[Jake]

Okay. No, I probably say you're, like 23. 21.

[Shane]

25.

[Jake]

How old do you think we are?

[Shane]

Okay.

[Brayden]

I'm actually really curious.

[Shane]

Okay. I think you are 27.

[Brayden]

Okay, should I reveal or should I wait?

[Shane]

Not yet.

[Brayden]

Okay.

[Shane]

I think you are also 27. And I think you're also 27. I think you're all 27.

[Jake]

So you think we're the 27 Club.

[Shane]

Hey. Hey.

[Dylan]

Lucky for you, we made it past. We made it past 27. 27.

[Shane]

How old are you guys?

[Dylan]

Cole and I are both 28.

[Brayden]

Eight.

[Jake]

I'm 29.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Almost 30, huh?

[Jake]

I was. I was this guy's age right here. Put the camera on him when. When. When we released our first song. He said he listened to it and he's 21 now. And it's just weird. I was 21 when we put out our first song, so I don't know where time goes. I think they're still trying to figure it out.

[Shane]

Oh, yeah. Wait, so how did you guys meet?

[Dylan]

Braden and I met when we were. When I was 9. Our moms met on an online chat forum for, like, kind of like parents. Stage parents, essentially. Like parents who are bringing their kids to L. A for acting. Because Braden and I started acting very young. And originally I was going to stay with Braden for my first year here. I was going to live with his family. And that didn't end up happening, but we still, like, met. We met at a Cheesecake Factory.

[Shane]

I love Cheesecake Factory.

[Dylan]

Oh, man. I'll always love Cheesecake Factory.

[Shane]

You got the chicken Marsala.

[Dylan]

We actually both got the chicken tenders.

[Shane]

Oh, okay.

[Dylan]

At the time.

[Shane]

At the time.

[Dylan]

With the honey mustard. Insane.

[Shane]

You ever go to a friendlies?

[Jake]

Don't know what that is.

[Dylan]

That's sort of friendly.

[Shane]

That's fine. That's fine. Where's Friendly Coast Vibes?

[Dylan]

See, that's. I've heard of it.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

You like friendlies?

[Shane]

I love friendly.

[Dylan]

You're from the East Coast?

[Shane]

Where are you from?

[Dylan]

The Midwest. And so is Brayton, Indiana.

[Shane]

Chicago. Oh, oh, Indiana. Okay. Where are you from? Yeah.

[Brayden]

Van Nuys, California.

[Shane]

Oh, yeah. Okay, I got that.

[Jake]

La.

[Dylan]

It's giving.

[Shane]

Yeah, it's giving. It's giving. It's giving. California.

[Dylan]

I'm from New York.

[Jake]

I'm from Ohio. Yeah. Warren, Ohio.

[Shane]

Oh, Ohio.

[Jake]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shane]

I love Ohio.

[Jake]

Do you really?

[Shane]

Yep.

[Jake]

Interesting.

[Shane]

Yeah, I. We.

[Jake]

No, I do, too.

[Shane]

We had a show in Ohio. We did a show in Ohio, and it was a vibe.

[Jake]

So what exactly is a show for you?

[Shane]

People always ask that. And how do you prep for it?

[Jake]

Like, what goes into a show for you? It's like. It's like a.

[Shane]

So it's like I get up there. I actually, like, love to have you guys if you're around, ever.

[Brayden]

Yes.

[Shane]

Okay. And so basically, I get up there, and without giving too much away, I basically talk about, like, my life. It's like I do a little, like, presentation in the back. I show a few videos, then I do the Tell me what's Wrongs, and then I. I perform my comedy album.

[Dylan]

Okay, awesome. That sounds great. I would love to attend a show.

[Jake]

Yeah, I don't want to attend a show in Ohio specifically.

[Shane]

Oh, what's electric?

[Jake]

First we go.

[Shane]

You remember where in Ohio it was Ohio State.

[Dylan]

Okay.

[Shane]

Oh, yeah.

[Dylan]

College crowd.

[Shane]

Yeah, it was a college crowd, which are always the best. And we. Have you ever been to Ohio State? Any of you? We.

[Brayden]

We, like, had our tour bus parked there once.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Brayden]

And it was game day.

[Jake]

Someone got their head kicked into our van or. Yeah, just, like, some gnarly fight. And he was all right in the.

[Dylan]

End, but it was a while that we were parked in the middle of, like, a huge game. Clearly was. And it was. We were playing a show there that night, and it was just chaos surrounding the bus. Yeah, there's a lot of chaos.

[Shane]

Did you spend the night? Wait, so do you Guys, like, all sleep in the bunks on the bus.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Still.

[Dylan]

Yeah. Unless it's an off day. We have, like, a hotel.

[Shane]

Like, do you, like, like it? I love the bus.

[Dylan]

Love the bus.

[Jake]

You have a bus, too? Bus rules.

[Shane]

Bus rules.

[Jake]

Rules.

[Dylan]

This is, like, our last. We're about to go on a. A run starting next week, and it's kind of our last us bus run for, like, a long time.

[Jake]

Yeah. I think I like the embrace it to sleep, you know?

[Shane]

Are you sad about it?

[Dylan]

I'm just gonna soak it in. You know, I'm like, I'm gonna take it in. I want to enjoy it, because if we're not on the bus for, like, a couple years or something, you got. You know, we'll have fond memories of it. So I want to, like, make sure I'm enjoying it while I'm there.

[Shane]

What's your favorite memory together? Each one.

[Dylan]

You go, who in life? We've been playing together since we were 12.

[Shane]

Yeah. So you have to go one by one and tell me your favorite memory.

[Jake]

Oh, my God.

[Dylan]

What comes to mind first?

[Jake]

Okay, the. Well, the first thing that comes to mind for me is something that hasn't come to mind yet. Cool. Cool.

[Dylan]

That's a. It's a really.

[Shane]

You guys have so many memories.

[Jake]

I'm thinking of so many things.

[Dylan]

Lots of memories. I don't know why. One of the first things that comes to mind is we attended Lollapalooza together in Chicago when we were, like, 16. Just there because Braden was there shooting a show at the time, like a. Like a TV show. And we came to visit and going there for some reason, that's one of the first things comes to mind. We were like.

[Jake]

And.

[Dylan]

And having this sort of pipe dream of, like, playing it one day. Right. And now we're about to do it for our third time. But that's not even trying to get, like, sentimental at all. But I just remember sentimental. Let me shed a tear. But it was, like, a fond memory. I feel like it's one of the things that comes to mind for some reason. We also played a show. We were there because we played a show at the House of Blues.

[Shane]

I've been to a show at the House of Blues in.

[Dylan]

In Chicago.

[Shane]

Yeah. Yeah. Great.

[Dylan]

Classic House of Blues.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

And I don't know why that came to mind. There's, like, a million good memories, but.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

Do you have any that come to mind immediately?

[Brayden]

Do you remember this?

[Jake]

Just.

[Brayden]

This came. This came to my mind. Do you remember? We. We, like, I think we Were at your house and we got caught trying to smoke weed in. In a car. Do you remember that?

[Jake]

I do remember that. Yeah. We had parked outside a policeman's house. Yeah.

[Shane]

How old were you guys? Yeah.

[Brayden]

And then, like, I think your mom found out.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Brayden]

And then, like, brought us inside. I remember. Gave us, like, a stern talking to.

[Dylan]

You in your living room.

[Jake]

Yeah, I remember that. Yeah.

[Dylan]

She was pretty chill about it. We just, like, played rock band or something after.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Brayden]

Oh, speaking of, remember we beat. We stayed up all night playing Beatles.

[Dylan]

Rock Band. Yep.

[Jake]

I remember that one, too.

[Dylan]

It might have been that same night, I feel.

[Brayden]

Might have been the same night.

[Shane]

You guys are like, best friends, huh?

[Dylan]

It's been a long time, man.

[Jake]

It's been a long time.

[Shane]

What show were you shooting in Chicago at the time?

[Jake]

It was a ABC show called Betrayal. It's probably something you've never heard of.

[Shane]

I like abc. What other shows have you been in?

[Jake]

So it's in 13 reasons why I'm Sick.

[Shane]

I fucking love that show, by the way. I wasn't going to bring it up, but, like, I have to now. I took my act, first of all. Show start to fucking finish. Don't play with me. And I took my act, and it came out that day. I'm sick. It's the greatest show of all time.

[Dylan]

Wow. Wow.

[Jake]

It was really fun filming that up in the Bay Area. It was in Prisoners. Goosebumps. It was a movie.

[Shane]

Prisoner.

[Jake]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Shane]

It's literally one of my favorite movies of all time.

[Jake]

Amazing.

[Shane]

Hey, you.

[Dylan]

And I was in Stepfather. Yes, we're swapping.

[Jake]

Yeah. I wasn't in third. Dylan was in 13 Reasons why.

[Shane]

You embarrassed me because I was like, why don't I remember him in 13 reasons why? Reasons why? Because I'm telling you, I saw it start to finish.

[Jake]

I'm not gonna lie. There was a time I almost got a role in 13 Reasons why. I don't remember that.

[Dylan]

Wow.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

Life would be crazy.

[Jake]

It would be so weird. I was almost in. In the show with him in the second seasons.

[Dylan]

Why? We're in a band together. That'd be a crazy.

[Jake]

That'd be the 14th reason for sure.

[Shane]

What. What role were you supposed to play in season two?

[Jake]

Some goth kid. I actually didn't see season two. Man.

[Dylan]

I don't care.

[Jake]

Yeah. Who was the goth dude? There's like a pumpkin.

[Shane]

Sorry.

[Jake]

There was a punk. There's like a. There's like a pumpkin in the show. Yeah. I don't know. It's just something I auditioned for. And, you know, it's. It was. It went. It went kind of interesting, but I'm glad that didn't happen.

[Shane]

You never saw season two?

[Jake]

No.

[Dylan]

Do you see season two?

[Shane]

I saw season one, two, three, and four. Oh, that is my favorite show of all time. Like, I don't know how to make it any more clear.

[Jake]

Like, really?

[Dylan]

That's awesome. That's really sweet.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

You might be the only person to say that.

[Shane]

Okay, well, I will stand. Like, seriously? I watch it during COVID Well, so, okay, so I watched season one, and then during COVID I was like, damn. Like, how come I never finished 13 reasons why? And then my friend was like, you have to finish 13 Reasons why. I'm in hysterics. And I was like, okay.

[Dylan]

Wow.

[Jake]

There you go. I got to pick it back up.

[Dylan]

It's a lot to.

[Jake]

Pick it back up.

[Shane]

Did you have. Did you have fun shooting it?

[Dylan]

Yeah, I mean, I was. It was a lot. It was a lot of, like, emotions, you know, all the time, a lot of hours. But I think, like, I. Like, when I look back on it, I have nothing. Like, I feel like I. It's a very heartwarming feeling when I look back on it. Especially, like, that first season. That was maybe, like, the most fulfilling or definitely, I think, the most fulfilling experience I ever had shooting anything, really. Yeah, it was, like, very special and the longest amount of time I spent with a character and definitely very thankful for it, for sure.

[Shane]

Back to you is my favorite song of all time, so.

[Dylan]

Oh, wow.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

You're really embedded in it.

[Shane]

I am the 14th reason.

[Dylan]

Okay.

[Shane]

Like, I don't know how to make it more clear.

[Dylan]

I like.

[Jake]

It's fun.

[Shane]

Anywho, back to you guys. So you never said your favorite memory.

[Jake]

Oh, yeah. First thing, I think. First thing I thought of this kind of two for each of them. Like, one is Dylan, and I used to make this character called I like Juice when we were a kid.

[Dylan]

Juice guy.

[Shane]

The Juice guy is like, the Benadryl man, basically.

[Jake]

It's. I don't know if I could do the voice on this show, but why?

[Dylan]

Oh.

[Jake]

I don't know if I could do the voice.

[Dylan]

That's up to you.

[Jake]

It's a gnarly voice. I'm thinking of a lot of things that, like, Cole's made me, like, laugh doing.

[Shane]

Wait, was Cole not involved with the Juice Man?

[Jake]

I don't think Cole's involved with the Juice Man.

[Dylan]

We shot these, like, does that hurt.

[Shane]

Your feelings that he just. When I said, what's your favorite Memory. And he brought up something without.

[Brayden]

You brought us something before. Before my time.

[Dylan]

No, I think you were involved in one.

[Brayden]

I was late to the Juice guy.

[Jake]

Yeah. Late to the Juice, man. I'm also. I remember the first time we played a song together. Like. Like an original song together.

[Dylan]

Wow. Which was I wasn't There. Oh, no, no, no. An original song together.

[Jake]

Like, we did Sweet Talking Love.

[Dylan]

Oh, yeah. I wasn't there.

[Jake]

You weren't there for that.

[Dylan]

Remember?

[Brayden]

Are you talking about Join the Band?

[Jake]

No, just when we, like, decided for you to join the actual band.

[Shane]

Oh, you guys had to decide? You guys did that?

[Jake]

Well, it was pretty obvious.

[Dylan]

Like, idea of, like, starting. There's this thing called Join the Band, and it was in the Valley, and I had a friend who. It was, like, a thing where kids will sign up and they'll rehearse for four to six weeks, three covers, and then end up playing it at, like, all the bands come together, play, like, this. This gig at a venue, and they play their covers and, like, School of Rock. Yes.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Dylan]

Yes. And I had a friend that signed up for it. And then I was like, that sounds fun. I want to do that. And I was told Braden, because I knew him. I was like, you should do this. We can, like, play together this thing. And then we got there, and Cole was the drummer in our assigned band. And then by the end of it, we're like, this guy's really good. We should. Wants to be in a real band with us one day. And. And they did. But see, the three of us played together in that. And then Braden's dad started a similar thing, and we start. We played in that together without Cole for some reason. And then we were going to do a second one that Cole joined. Oh, no, no. You guys did join the band again.

[Jake]

We did. Without you.

[Dylan]

Okay, I'm forgetting now. Yeah, without me, because I was. I was. I don't know what I was doing. Goosebumps or something. Yeah.

[Brayden]

Did you like.

[Jake]

No, I think it was. Maybe it was that. I don't know.

[Brayden]

There was something. There was some filming because you had to go to Hawaii or something crazy.

[Dylan]

Oh, was it, like, Lost?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Dylan]

Long time ago.

[Shane]

You weren't Lost.

[Dylan]

Yeah. Wow. It's been a long time.

[Shane]

You were also in.

[Dylan]

I've been acting like, 20 years.

[Shane]

Yeah. Were you in, like, an SVU episode or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love SVU that.

[Dylan]

Were you in an sv?

[Jake]

I was an svu.

[Shane]

What was your. What happened to your character?

[Jake]

Unspeakable Things by the guy who voiced Nemo in Finding Nemo.

[Shane]

Oh, okay.

[Brayden]

I didn't know that.

[Jake]

Yeah, so we'll keep that on. We'll keep that in the ocean. Yeah, it's really funny, actually.

[Dylan]

And I did unspeakable things with the teacher.

[Jake]

Jesus.

[Shane]

You did? Oh, that was fucked up.

[Jake]

You remember for my audition, I had to cry in my audition, and I remember listening to Blackbird by the Beatles to cry when I was, like, 10, I was like, can you guys cry in command?

[Dylan]

No.

[Jake]

To be honest, I don't understand, like, what tears.

[Shane]

Even Blackbird singing in the Dead.

[Jake]

I could probably cry on command if I really commanded myself to cry, you know? But no, we all have so many memories together, it's hard to pick. I'm like. My mind is blanking on all memories.

[Dylan]

We've acted together before, the three of us.

[Shane]

In what?

[Jake]

So. Oh, that's funny.

[Dylan]

Brad was on a show at the time. He played Ray Romano's son on, like, a show full time. It's called Men of a Certain Age.

[Shane]

I remember that show.

[Jake]

I do. Yeah.

[Dylan]

I've seen all of it.

[Shane]

Well, I have. Yes.

[Jake]

There you go.

[Dylan]

They had wrote in, like, a band for his character, and then they casted me as a bandmate of his and then Cole as well. So we were all played. We were all, like, acted together on that show.

[Jake]

Yeah, it was really funny.

[Dylan]

It was funny. It was a good time. We were, like, 15.

[Shane]

You act, too.

[Brayden]

That was my. My debut and my finale.

[Shane]

Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Are you guys having fun?

[Jake]

I'm actually.

[Shane]

I'm having a really good time. I can't lie.

[Dylan]

Okay, good.

[Shane]

Well, I don't. I mean, I would lie even if I was having fun, but I am having the best time.

[Dylan]

I've done a lot of these, so I'm sitting here hoping you're enjoying it.

[Shane]

I'm. Are you?

[Jake]

Yeah. I'm laughing really hard. Oh, good. Okay, good. We, like, really good.

[Shane]

You guys got me, like, out of my shell a little bit.

[Jake]

Good.

[Dylan]

We got to keep cracking you.

[Shane]

I know.

[Jake]

We'll keep cracking.

[Shane]

I'm almost all out.

[Jake]

Let's keep cracking it.

[Dylan]

How do I get into Puss University? I've been looking.

[Shane]

Oh, you just apply. Have you seen the movie Acceptance or Accepted?

[Brayden]

I love. I love that movie.

[Jake]

Best movies of all time.

[Shane]

Yeah. It really is, huh?

[Jake]

It literally.

[Shane]

It really is. Yeah. So that's, like what Pussy University is. You just need to apply.

[Dylan]

Okay, great. I'm looking at it.

[Shane]

You're in. Congrats.

[Dylan]

Wow.

[Brayden]

Is it South Harmon?

[Jake]

South Harmonology.

[Shane]

What was It. Yeah.

[Jake]

Justin Long might be my favorite actor of all time. Just gonna say no.

[Shane]

Where is he?

[Dylan]

He's in Barbarian.

[Brayden]

Barbarian.

[Dylan]

Barbarian.

[Shane]

Barbarian was great, huh?

[Dylan]

I mean, the trailer for his new movie, Weapons. Have you seen that?

[Jake]

Looks so good.

[Dylan]

Looks amazing.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Dylan]

Second film.

[Shane]

What weapon is that? The one where everyone goes missing.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Jake]

Correct.

[Dylan]

Kids in the classroom. Yes, it looks amazing.

[Shane]

Wow, look at me. Like, anticipated. I'm kind of.

[Jake]

You know a lot about pop culture.

[Shane]

No, I. I'm knowing. Weapon looks amazing. Weapons looks amazing. What actress is in that?

[Dylan]

Julia Garner.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Jake]

From Ozark.

[Dylan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shane]

No, I've never seen Ozark.

[Jake]

I've never seen Ozark either.

[Shane]

What are you guys watching right now?

[Dylan]

The rehearsal.

[Jake]

Yeah, the rehearsal. The last of us. And I started and stopped watching Baby Girl.

[Dylan]

Nice.

[Jake]

That's classic. I don't know. I was just kind of halfway through, I was like, why am I watching this? But, like, not for any reason. I just was like, I have a very short attention span when it comes to things like that. So I was like, oh, I'm just gonna watch something else, I guess.

[Shane]

Are you all watching Last of Us?

[Dylan]

Yes. I watched the first. I'm too behind.

[Brayden]

I haven't started. I played the games.

[Shane]

Okay, so, like.

[Brayden]

But So I kind of know you.

[Shane]

Like, know what's going on.

[Dylan]

Cole knows.

[Brayden]

I know. I know what's going on.

[Shane]

No, but, like, you know, like. Like the big spoiler of the season.

[Jake]

Oh, yeah.

[Shane]

Okay. So that was. You haven't seen.

[Jake]

Okay, yeah.

[Shane]

Okay. So I was at dinner at Din Tai Fung with my best friend Brett, and she doesn't even watch the show, and she thought I had seen that episode. And she goes, can you believe. Did you hear.

[Brayden]

Did you hear that?

[Dylan]

Like, I can't believe it now.

[Shane]

Yeah. And I was like, damn. I was so upset that I told my waitress. I was like, do you watch the Last of Us? And she was like, yes. And I was like, I literally just got the episode spoiled for me.

[Dylan]

Damn, that's unfortunate.

[Shane]

I know.

[Dylan]

That happens.

[Shane]

I know. I can't believe you were in laws. You were in everything. Do you still want to act?

[Dylan]

Yeah. Yeah, I do. I think. I feel like I've. There's a weird, like, narrative that's gone around that I quit acting, but I never felt that or said that. I feel like I have, like, a desire to do it again in some regard, and if the right thing comes along, then the right thing comes along.

[Shane]

When's the last time you acted?

[Dylan]

2021. I was on a thing. Hulu thing. Called the Dropout with. It was about Elizabeth long ago.

[Shane]

I've seen the Dropout.

[Dylan]

Yeah, that was last.

[Shane]

Yeah. When she dances to how to Love.

[Dylan]

You see everything.

[Shane]

Yeah, I really have seen everything. Damn. I need to get a life.

[Jake]

No, everything.

[Dylan]

I like. I like that you're, like. You're up to date on things.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

I wish I could be more tapped in.

[Shane]

No, that's okay. You're, like, tapped in enough.

[Jake]

You seem pretty tapped to pop culture, right?

[Shane]

I know. I'm very tapped. Have you guys ever seen Glee?

[Brayden]

No.

[Jake]

I've only seen one or two clips. Maybe I've seen parts.

[Dylan]

I've seen parts.

[Jake]

I've seen the first episode.

[Dylan]

Yeah. Is that your favorite of all time?

[Shane]

I don't know how to describe Glee to you guys without, like, crying right now. Like, that is seriously the greatest show of all time. Besides 13 reasons why I was about.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Dylan]

I was about to fact check you out.

[Shane]

Glee. You know what we're gonna do? Us four?

[Jake]

What?

[Shane]

We're gonna sit at either my house or one of your houses, and we're gonna watch Glee.

[Dylan]

I. I'm down.

[Brayden]

Cool.

[Jake]

I'm kind of down. I'm kind of down.

[Dylan]

Would you start us at the beginning or would you show a certain episode?

[Shane]

Unfortunately, like, unfortunately, I do have to show you from the beginning.

[Dylan]

Okay, that makes sense.

[Shane]

But you will get locked in.

[Dylan]

Okay. I'm sure.

[Shane]

Like, nothing but great things. It's like, it is the greatest show of all time. Like, I don't know how to describe it.

[Jake]

American Horror Story, dude, right? American.

[Shane]

Ryan Murphy. Ryan Murphy, Yes. I was like, Evan Peters. Legend. Not in Glee.

[Jake]

Yeah. That's funny, man.

[Dylan]

The legend.

[Jake]

The legend.

[Dylan]

I'm also watching Survivor right now.

[Shane]

I've never seen Survivor, but I really want to see it.

[Dylan]

It's amazing.

[Shane]

Really.

[Dylan]

It's so. I've, like. I've grown up watching Big Brother. It's, like, one of my favorite shows of all time. I love that show. I got Cole into.

[Brayden]

That show is the best.

[Dylan]

I've tried to get into that.

[Shane]

I've only seen the season of Big Brother with Frankie Grande.

[Dylan]

I watched it. I watched it. Of course. Watch it live. Fucking love that show. And then everyone was always like, if you love Big Brother, you'll love Survivor. And I always, for some reason, I was like, nah, Big Brother's bad. There's, like, weird. Like, I was on this high horse about Big Brother for no reason, like, two years ago, just decided to start a random season. It was season 15. It was in China, and it was incredible. I was like, how have I not been watching the show? So now. Now there's two seasons a year, and I'm like, I'm.

[Shane]

And it's that good.

[Dylan]

Oh, it's incredible.

[Shane]

You guys should go on Survive it for album promo.

[Dylan]

Wow.

[Jake]

That'd be fun.

[Brayden]

So I so would want to do that.

[Dylan]

I know. I watched the. I watch it. I'm like, I. I'd like to try it. I'd like to try it. Celebrity Survivor season.

[Shane]

No, you guys have to go on with everyone.

[Dylan]

Okay.

[Shane]

That's like what Mike White did.

[Dylan]

That is what Mike White did.

[Jake]

Mike White did. I seen.

[Shane]

I saw you guys watch White Lotus.

[Jake]

No.

[Dylan]

Yes.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Dylan]

Yes.

[Shane]

Cool. So how'd you come up with the name Wallows?

[Jake]

Oh, great question. Honestly. Well, first of all, I always like asking you a question when you ask me a question.

[Shane]

I love talking about myself. Go ahead.

[Jake]

Okay, great. How did you come up with the name Therapist Thunderpuss?

[Shane]

But yeah, so basically, in college, I started an octopus review account called Pass that Puss. So, like, I would eat octopus and I would. I would go, hi, Jake 10. So usually a little more enthusiastic than that.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Shane]

And then I eat the. I eat the octopus, and then I rate it out of eight. Because they have eight tentacles.

[Jake]

Correct.

[Shane]

So then I started posting on my Instagram story, like, tell me what's wrong? And I would give people, like, pretty blunt advice. And then I was like, damn, Like, I think I should probably have a podcast. Just. I was like, therapy, Therapists.

[Dylan]

It's brilliant.

[Jake]

Really brilliant.

[Brayden]

It's brilliant.

[Jake]

It's literally. I needed to hear how you did it so I could tell you how we.

[Shane]

I was really high at the time, but I don't smoke weed anymore.

[Jake]

I see. I don't. I don't.

[Dylan]

I don't. I don't touch that.

[Jake]

That stuff either anymore.

[Shane]

That stuff when you stop.

[Jake]

Well, I've only had it a handful of times.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Jake]

And the last time I did. Me and my lion. No, I'm dead.

[Shane]

Oh, okay. I can't tell with you.

[Jake]

With me?

[Shane]

Yes.

[Jake]

Oh, no. Oh, no. I never lie. I really don't. Is that a lie? I don't know. Geez.

[Shane]

I know.

[Jake]

I'm full of myself.

[Brayden]

Is it crazy if I use the bathroom real quick?

[Shane]

Go use the bathroom. You're perfect.

[Brayden]

I'll be right.

[Dylan]

Should we.

[Jake]

Are we pausing?

[Shane]

No, we can keep going.

[Brayden]

No, no, no.

[Jake]

Just keep going.

[Brayden]

I know. I've heard the.

[Shane]

No, we will wait for you. Oh, yeah.

[Jake]

What was I talking about again?

[Shane]

You. How you don't Smoke?

[Jake]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't smoke weed. I don't. I don't really enjoy it. I've had. I've had a good time and whatnot. But, yeah, not anymore. Last. Yeah.

[Dylan]

Do you have a specific. Like, what? What? Is there a specific thing that, like, got you. You were not into it anymore?

[Jake]

Well, I remember there was a time where we got a little something, and I couldn't say, sit and sleep will beat anyone's advertised price, or, your mattress is free.

[Dylan]

I remember this.

[Jake]

I was. I was sitting. I was sitting. I was sitting down like this, and I was like. I was like, this is the worst feeling in the world. Like, I just feel so bad. And then Dylan was, like, laughing at me, and he's like, say, sit and sleep will beat anyone's advertised price. So your mattress is free. Like, you know that saying, but, you know, sit and sleep. So I was like. I was like, fries. And I was like, I just couldn't. There's a video of me saying it. I was like, really? I was like, probably, like, 16. And ever since then, I was like, nope, never again.

[Shane]

Oh, wow.

[Jake]

Just because of sit and sleep one time.

[Shane]

Yeah, I've had experiences like that. But then post college, which we're about to talk about, I smoked every single day. Every day, my life. I would wake up, smoke for, like, what, three, four years?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And then I started getting really bad anxiety, and I was like, wait, I can't do this anymore.

[Jake]

Well, I remember the last time I smoked was I was kind of, like, trying to prove to myself that I could kind of like an exposure therapy. So I was like. I was kind of always afraid of it. Like, you know what I mean? So we were in Oregon with our manager, and we literally went to a strip club in Oregon for fun, just me and him. That. You guys had girlfriends at the time, so you didn't want to go. So just me and him. Like, maybe not. So we go and we're walking back, and then he's like, do you want. Do you want some of this? And I was like, you know, because it was, like, legal there, and he bought it, and I was like, you know what? Like, I will. For fun. I'm not gonna get high. So I took one little hit of it, and I was, like, really afraid. I was like, good thing that's over.

[Shane]

Like, right?

[Jake]

I'm not gonna feel anything. I'm not gonna feel anything. And I'm in the elevator with him, and I'm like, yeah, there it comes. It's like, please, God, know And I go in my room and I look in the mirror, My eyes are bloodshot. And I was like. I literally started doing jumping jacks, push ups. I was like, I got to get. I was just so paranoid. And then. And then I let it go. And then I had a good time. And then I never did it again. Ever. And I never will.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

Never will.

[Jake]

It's cut, dude. I'm good on it. I'm good.

[Shane]

Do you smoke a lot?

[Dylan]

No, not a lot. I have. It's. It's been a while for me as well, but not really for any reason. I started to, like, enjoy it less. I don't know.

[Shane]

Yeah, me too.

[Dylan]

Yeah, like, the feeling. I never got full anxiety from it. I just sort of every time I was like, I kind of don't need to be feeling this way.

[Shane]

Right? I. I agree. Yeah, I agree.

[Jake]

No shame to people who love it. That's awesome.

[Dylan]

Of course.

[Shane]

I mean, I used to all power. I'll probably go back to it. So you went to usc.

[Brayden]

Yes.

[Shane]

So where'd you live? Do you want. All four years?

[Brayden]

Yeah. Did you go there?

[Shane]

Yes. No.

[Brayden]

What?

[Shane]

Oh. So I realized I. So you were PA And. And then that's how this came up.

[Brayden]

And then.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Brayden]

Bathroom.

[Shane]

Okay. So you. You went to usc. Where did you live in New North.

[Brayden]

I lived in Trojan hall last year.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Jake]

Right.

[Brayden]

By Doomer. Ground zero. Did that still?

[Shane]

Yes.

[Brayden]

Yep.

[Shane]

They had a good breakfast burrito.

[Brayden]

Yes. Smoothies and shakes.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Brayden]

And then I lived. Do you. Do you know the restaurant Nature's Brew? Do you know Nature's Brew?

[Shane]

The memory you just unlocked? I'm sick to my stomach.

[Brayden]

The little cafe.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Brayden]

And next. EBay's ramen.

[Shane]

Have you had it?

[Dylan]

Oh, yeah.

[Brayden]

EBay.

[Shane]

I'm sick. I'm sick. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Delicious. Wait. Oh, my God, I'm sick. Ebay's ramen sick.

[Brayden]

Like, yeah, in like, a bad way.

[Jake]

Yeah. I hate ebay's.

[Shane]

I know. They had good crispy rice.

[Jake]

Oh, yeah.

[Brayden]

No eBays. EBays.

[Shane]

And you lived right there and.

[Brayden]

Yeah, and I worked at Nature's Brew, so I was a server at Nature's Brew.

[Shane]

What year?

[Brayden]

Like 2016-18. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Shane]

Before my time. Okay, so you lived there, and then where'd you live?

[Brayden]

And then after college.

[Shane]

Oh, you lived there all the rest of your. Three years.

[Brayden]

Three years. I lived right in, like, a house. It was a house with 10 people. 10 bedrooms.

[Dylan]

Quite a lineup in that house.

[Brayden]

People.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Brayden]

Good lineup.

[Dylan]

Good lineup.

[Brayden]

I lived there and Danny lived there. Who tours with us? And did you know Remy Wolf?

[Shane]

Yes.

[Brayden]

Yes. Remy Wolf lived in that house.

[Shane]

Did she go to usc?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Huh?

[Jake]

Huh?

[Shane]

Fight on.

[Brayden]

Fight on.

[Dylan]

Liz. Like, ever. I mean, everyone. Everyone who lived in the house is doing, like, really well. It's like. Yeah, everyone.

[Brayden]

It was a prosperous place.

[Shane]

EBay's.

[Brayden]

EBay's.

[Shane]

Oh, my God. They had great ramen.

[Brayden]

Great ramen.

[Shane]

I would love to go there with you.

[Brayden]

We should go.

[Shane]

Would you go back? Is it still open?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Cool.

[Brayden]

I hope it is.

[Shane]

Did you guys ever party with him at usc?

[Dylan]

If we ever party with you there. We were there all the time, like, right. Like, making demos and stuff.

[Jake]

Right.

[Dylan]

We would go, like, a few times a week, so we were always there. We played a party at your house once.

[Brayden]

We played the Ultimate Frisbee Promise.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Shane]

What?

[Dylan]

It was like the first Wallows. Yeah, the first Wallows performance.

[Brayden]

I played bass.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Brayden]

Instead of played drums.

[Dylan]

You did. We had. Was. Was pleaser out.

[Brayden]

I don't think.

[Jake]

Was it out. I don't. I don't know if it was really. It might have been before.

[Dylan]

Wow.

[Brayden]

I feel like it was like, it was.

[Jake]

Oh, was it out?

[Brayden]

Yeah, I feel like it.

[Dylan]

We had one song out. It was like the first Wallace performance was there.

[Brayden]

Yeah. In the house.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

The strange 80s event, too.

[Brayden]

Stefan played drums.

[Dylan]

You played bass.

[Jake]

Played bass for a while. Oh, Stefan.

[Dylan]

Stefan produced our first few singles. He did that we put out. He used to have, or might still have out in Irvine. And. Yeah, he, like, played drums with us for, like, this charity event. We played right when we started, like, right when we first started Wallows, when we first came out as well as. And then. Yeah, I haven't seen him in a while, but he, like, he helped jump start the whole thing. Stefan.

[Jake]

Mac.

[Shane]

Do you guys remember, like, a moment where you were like, oh, like, this is what we're gonna do forever?

[Jake]

Honestly, it's probably when we were kids, like. Like, I remember just, like, always writing and, like, putting track lists together and sending it to them, and I was like, oh, yeah, this is just what's gonna be happening in the future. Like, it was. It was when I was naive enough to not know that there was, like, a reason why it shouldn't happen so just kind of naturally led into adulthood. And now I look back and I'm like, wow. Like, it's really cool that this worked out in that way. Or it's. You know what I mean?

[Shane]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jake]

There was never a But the time I was like, wow, this is actually happening is probably when we went on our first tour or something or put out our first song. People were listening to it. That's probably when you're like, whoa. Like, is this actually gonna happen?

[Shane]

Right.

[Jake]

For a long time, it got to the point where that was what we knew we were gonna do. And then there's a period when we're like, 14 to 20 where nothing's happening. And that's why we called our first album Nothing Happens. Because we were like, why isn't anything happening for our band? Like, you always write or you're playing shows, but we didn't really know what to do in terms of marketing ourselves or anything. Like, that's probably the worst thing we were. That was probably the thing we were worst at was, like, knowing how to, like, promote our band or something. We would just write and whatever.

[Dylan]

Children.

[Jake]

Yeah. Yeah, That's. That also.

[Dylan]

Nothing's happening at 15.

[Jake]

Yeah. We're like, why? Why?

[Shane]

That's the. That's the spirit.

[Jake]

Yeah, that's the spirit.

[Shane]

It's why you guys are as successful as.

[Jake]

How did you get successful? How did you get known?

[Shane]

I like you.

[Jake]

I love knowing. I love knowing.

[Shane]

I started my Octopus account.

[Jake]

Yep.

[Shane]

And then I would just post on that. And then I was an assistant to this guy named Zach, and he was always like, if you ever. If anything ever happens, I'll manage you. If anything ever happens, I'll manage you. And then over the course of a week, I, like, posted these, like. Like, improv skits, and, like, it really took off, and he started managing me.

[Dylan]

Wow.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Jake]

That's good.

[Shane]

So that's my story.

[Dylan]

It's a good story.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Brayden]

Do you believe in manifestation?

[Shane]

Oh, yeah. But, like. Like. But, like. Oh, like, how do you. Like, how do you. Do you guys manifest?

[Brayden]

Well, I. When you were talking about us as kids, I was like, maybe we were just manifestation maxed at that time. Because I don't think there was any part of us that was doubtful about what we wanted to do.

[Shane]

That's true manifestation, by the way.

[Brayden]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Not writing stuff down. I mean, like, I really think true manifestation is just being like, I'm gonna do this, and if you get in my way, I'll step on you.

[Jake]

Yours is festation.

[Shane]

Yes, it was.

[Jake]

There we go.

[Shane]

Do you guys eat octopus?

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Jake]

Yeah. Yeah. I just had octopus the other day.

[Shane]

From where?

[Jake]

From Mexico.

[Shane]

How amazing was it? I'm sure it was amazing.

[Jake]

It was. I feel. Okay. Sometimes I feel bad about eating octopus.

[Shane]

Stop.

[Dylan]

I'm sure.

[Shane]

You know, seriously, I can't. I know, I know, I know.

[Jake]

I feel. I mean, just to be completely transparent, I feel the way about pigs and I don't. I don't like eating pork or bacon because I think they're so sweet and so cute, but.

[Shane]

Hey, you seen Babe? I. I haven't seen Babe, actually.

[Jake]

I haven't seen Babe. That's really funny. That was like a really.

[Shane]

I never.

[Jake]

I've never heard a more perfectly timed question. Thank you, then. Beautifully said. It was like a poem.

[Shane]

God, I should have you around all this time.

[Jake]

Have you. Have you seen Babe? Just float off your tongue?

[Dylan]

Just a hype man behind him, all this.

[Shane]

Yeah. Really, I think I need it.

[Jake]

Have you seen Babe? I guess.

[Shane]

Well, so why don't you eat? You just think they're sweet.

[Jake]

We'll figure. We'll figure this out. It's a work in progress. It's been, you know, it's been instilled in us since we were children that pigs are sweet, that cows and chicken are tasty.

[Shane]

They are so tasty. Okay.

[Jake]

Okay. Yes. Okay. Yes.

[Shane]

Should we play a game?

[Jake]

Sure.

[Dylan]

Yes, please.

[Jake]

I love games, actually.

[Shane]

Okay. What. What's. Everyone's like if you had to eat one thing for the rest of your life? Like, what would that be?

[Brayden]

Yogurt. I'm serious.

[Shane]

Are you serious?

[Brayden]

I love yogurt. I'm serious. You guys know this. It's so good.

[Jake]

Yogurt.

[Shane]

Like Greek or what?

[Brayden]

Yeah, I like whole milk Greek. Or like, that's why he has the body.

[Jake]

He does.

[Shane]

I was about to say, like, you're in shape. Wait, so what toppings? Like, what's the vibe?

[Brayden]

I mean, honey. Like a sweet fruit honey.

[Shane]

Sorry. Every time. Every time my dad thought I was getting sick, he would make me have a spoonful of manuka honey every morning. Oh.

[Dylan]

I like minute.

[Shane]

I'm like, actually, like, if I keep talking about it, I'll throw up on you.

[Dylan]

Well, you better watch it.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Shane]

So you like honey on your yogurt?

[Jake]

Honey?

[Brayden]

Yeah, like a sweet sweet.

[Shane]

So you would have it breakfast, lunch and dinner. Greek yogurt.

[Brayden]

I literally probably have done that before because it's like the only thing in my fridge. Maybe we're leaving the next day, I gotta eat it and I'll just.

[Shane]

Sorry.

[Brayden]

That, like, they heard it for.

[Jake]

It's like. Yeah, the echo of the. It's good echo.

[Brayden]

That's.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Okay. You know what? I. I'm so sorry I laughed. I completely respect your.

[Jake]

Oh, it's.

[Brayden]

It's. No, it's It's a little weird.

[Dylan]

Yep.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Dylan]

I feel like if I had to give, like, man, there's something, like, recently in my life, I feel like there's nothing more satisfying than, like, a good breakfast burrito. You know what I mean?

[Shane]

What's your favorite in Lake?

[Dylan]

I haven't had waking late yet. I mean, you don't need to.

[Jake]

I think Dialogue is my favorite.

[Dylan]

Dialogue has an incredible breakfast burrito.

[Jake]

Dialogue rules.

[Dylan]

And also Amara Kitchen, which is, like, sort of a deep cut, but Cafe Los Feliz. Yeah. They have a great one.

[Shane]

They have the best one in great ones.

[Dylan]

Go Get Them Tiger is a good one as well.

[Shane]

Never had that, but I've had Go Get Them Tiger.

[Dylan]

It's yummy. But then, like, also another thing that comes to mind is a Cheesy Gordita crunch from Taco Bell.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Dylan]

Like, insane.

[Shane]

I don't know why. I can't really get behind Taco Bell.

[Dylan]

Have you had one of those?

[Shane]

Of course.

[Dylan]

Okay.

[Shane]

Okay. Of course. My friends used to order that every night in college. I just can't. Like, my favorite, like, drunk food is, like, a Tatsu Ramen.

[Dylan]

My drunk food is Taco Bell.

[Shane]

Okay. Yeah.

[Dylan]

Like, there's, like, so many nights I gotta get home, and I like Postmates 2 in the morning. Like, Taco Bell. And I'm just alone eating it, you know?

[Shane]

They're doing a Dorito. Cheesy Gordita Crunch.

[Dylan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen that. I like the classic.

[Shane]

Yeah. You don't like Doritos?

[Dylan]

I'm hungry now. No, I love Doritos. I love Doritos. What would yours be? One thing.

[Jake]

One thing for us, my life would be. No. What's funny? It would actually be, like, this stir fry. This stir fry. Like, vegetables and, like, a nice chicken. Just, like, a nice sauce. Just a stir fry. I feel like I could. I feel like I could happily live.

[Shane]

My whole life just over a bed of white rice.

[Jake]

Oh, my God.

[Shane]

Like, don't give me chills.

[Jake]

Suck me in.

[Shane]

Yeah. Like, don't give me chills right now.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Crazy. Like, white rice. Like, see, what I describe white rice as is, like, it's a canvas. It's a blank canvas, and you can just paint it with whatever sauce you want.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Like, I would eat white rice with Bolognese.

[Dylan]

Yeah. Oh, that'd be amazing, actually.

[Shane]

They actually have that at Tatsu Ramen. Well, it's not boring, but it's like a meaty sauce. It's just called red rice. And it's a bowl of White rice with like, meat, red sauce on.

[Jake]

Wow.

[Shane]

Let me get it for lunch.

[Jake]

Wow, that sounds really good.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

Also a good Caesar app.

[Shane]

Oh, hey, I'll throw up this time on you.

[Dylan]

You don't like Caesar.

[Shane]

I hate Caesar wraps more than anything in the entire world.

[Jake]

I'm not a big Caesar up guy either. I think we might have a lot of similar tastes, honestly.

[Shane]

Great.

[Jake]

I feel like if we like dove deep into this, we might have a lot of similars.

[Shane]

I think we're. I think it's a kismet thing with us.

[Dylan]

Wow.

[Jake]

What is that?

[Shane]

Okay. I think I hate Caesar wraps because one time I had a Caesar app. It was the nastiest I've ever had in my entire life. It was wet with Caesar. I love that.

[Dylan]

I ate this yesterday. Yeah.

[Jake]

No way.

[Shane]

Did you really?

[Jake]

That's insane.

[Dylan]

It's like the most popular Caesar app in la. Yeah, I split it with our friend Kevin. I have one yesterday.

[Shane]

Yeah, you split it because you can't have the full one.

[Dylan]

Well, I can't.

[Shane]

Oh, okay. You don't think it's like, wet?

[Dylan]

Isn't it supposed to be?

[Brayden]

I like what? Yeah. Wet food good. Wet food good.

[Shane]

Well, yeah. You like Greek yogurt?

[Jake]

Yeah, just.

[Brayden]

Yes.

[Shane]

So what you say? Wet food good. Like, do you like the little liquid at the top of the Greek yogurt when you first open it?

[Brayden]

No, no, no, no. You gotta. You gotta mix that in. That's gross. That's gross. That's gross.

[Dylan]

Hiding behind the pillow.

[Jake]

So crazy.

[Shane]

I like their. Their Italian sandwich is the best in la.

[Dylan]

You know, has a good Italian sandwich in la. Besides B Cities, of course, is Bub and Grandma's.

[Jake]

Now they do have a great. They do have a great.

[Shane]

Well, you wouldn't know cuz you don't eat pork.

[Jake]

What did you say? Italian.

[Shane]

Italian sandwich.

[Jake]

Oh, I guess I have eaten. Well, I do eat pork sometimes.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Jake]

So I just feel bad about it.

[Shane]

That's fine.

[Jake]

And I. And I limit. Limit. I'm not like full. Yeah. Anyway.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Brayden]

Let me get this clear.

[Shane]

I respect that.

[Jake]

Yes.

[Shane]

What are you guys. They're pissed about today?

[Dylan]

Oh, good question. I feel like I'm always pissed about something.

[Shane]

Love that energy.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Jake]

Yeah. I actually did some deep breathing in my car before I came in here today.

[Shane]

Did you really?

[Jake]

So I feel very, very relaxed.

[Shane]

You did deep breathing.

[Jake]

I did.

[Shane]

Were you nervous?

[Jake]

No, I'm not nervous. I feel like sometimes maybe my mind can. Can wander for some of these things and maybe I'll like, talk myself into being nervous. But at the same time, like, I always kind of. I always have a good time.

[Shane]

How do you deep breathe?

[Jake]

So you do a nice.

[Shane]

And then should we all.

[Jake]

I mean, they. They know this so. Well, I don't know. Do you guys want to deep breathe or do you not want to deep breathe?

[Dylan]

Why not?

[Shane]

Yeah, I was about to be. Like, why wouldn't we?

[Jake]

Okay, so deep breath in. And three, two, one. Breathe out. Breathe in.

[Shane]

Are you guys closing your eyes or what's the vibe? Yeah. Okay.

[Jake]

On this last one, breathe in all the way. And then breathe in one more. Like, more than you think you can. Three, two, one. And how can you be therapist after that?

[Shane]

I mean, I have a few things, like. But like, that. That feels amazing.

[Jake]

I love it. I love deep breathing, man.

[Shane]

I feel, like, high almost.

[Dylan]

Is there something that your therapist about right now that you're able to speak on on camera?

[Shane]

Yeah. My stomach keeps grumbling and I'm really anxious every time that you guys hear it.

[Dylan]

My stomach is grumbling right now. Okay, so we're in this together.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Okay, so I'm not therapist about that anymore.

[Dylan]

Okay.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Jake]

Well, yeah, let's talk. Actually, let's talk about it. What are you therapist about?

[Shane]

What am I therapist? Yeah.

[Jake]

I want to help you. I want to talk about it. I don't know. It's weird, Okay.

[Shane]

I really like how I look with a spray tan. But, like, it's super. Like, it doesn't make sense to get a spray tan every single day. You know what I mean?

[Jake]

I'd feel. I'd feel contaminated. I'd feel sticky.

[Shane]

No. You know, like, spray tans are. Have you ever had a spray tan?

[Jake]

No.

[Shane]

Oh, you need to get a spray tan. Like, it. Like spray tans are. Have you ever had a spray tan?

[Dylan]

No. I probably should.

[Shane]

Well, have you ever had a spray tan?

[Jake]

No.

[Shane]

Okay, well, they change your life.

[Jake]

Really? I feel like I'd feel sticky.

[Shane]

No, you do.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Shane]

But you have to get the express.

[Jake]

What is that?

[Shane]

Okay, so the express, you wash off in three to four hours, and then the standard, you sleep in, so you have to sleep on, like, a bunch of towels.

[Jake]

Does not give you, like, acne or anything, because I have very sensitive skin.

[Shane]

It might, but my girl. I'll give you my girl, okay? And she has the best formula. It will not give you acne.

[Jake]

Okay?

[Shane]

I promise.

[Jake]

Interesting.

[Shane]

I would never do that.

[Jake]

Probably not.

[Brayden]

Yeah, probably.

[Jake]

But maybe.

[Shane]

What else am I therapist about? I kind of have to pee.

[Jake]

You should go.

[Dylan]

Should we let you.

[Jake]

You should Go.

[Shane]

Do you care?

[Dylan]

No, I don't care.

[Brayden]

No, I did it.

[Shane]

You set the standard.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Okay. Can we have a group chat? Yeah, let's start it Wallace plus Jake. Okay. I wanna. Give me my phone. We're starting a group chat. Us. For us. The four. Wallace plus Jake. Okay, ready?

[Dylan]

Let's do it.

[Jake]

I absolutely love that.

[Shane]

Okay, ready? Okay.

[Jake]

Oh, yeah.

[Shane]

So everyone start putting in their numbers. And then you have to text your names. And don't fucking. Don't play with me. And don't text like your name is someone else's, because I know you would.

[Jake]

I would do that. Yeah.

[Brayden]

Wow.

[Shane]

Okay, so we totally forgot. You guys never told me how you named the band Wallace.

[Jake]

All right, so I grew up playing this skateboarding game called Tony Hawk's Underground. Are you familiar with Tony Hawks Underground?

[Shane]

Of course not.

[Jake]

So turn Axe Underground. Great game. And in one of the levels, you skate Hawaii. Are you familiar with Hawaii?

[Shane]

Somewhat.

[Jake]

Okay, so then. So then you. You skate this. There's this famous skate spot there called Wallows, actually. So there's a. There's a. There's a place called Wallows. And when we were trying to name the band, I was actually. We were trying to rename the band we originally called the Fever, which is hilarious. But we were kids, you know, The Fever. The Fever.

[Shane]

Like the Cure.

[Jake]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're like the. The antithesis to the Cure.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Jake]

And then. So. So then basically we were renaming the band and we came up with a ton of terrible band names.

[Shane]

Like what?

[Jake]

Thunderpuss? No.

[Shane]

Do you know Thunderpuss is a store in a record store in Ohio?

[Brayden]

We went there.

[Dylan]

You're right.

[Jake]

You're right.

[Brayden]

Magnolia. Yes, that's right.

[Jake]

Magnolia. What?

[Brayden]

Thunder.

[Shane]

Thunder.

[Jake]

Yeah, that's right.

[Shane]

Manny has a T shirt from them.

[Jake]

I have a shirt, too.

[Shane]

Really?

[Jake]

Yeah. Geez.

[Shane]

Look at God.

[Jake]

Wow. That's amazing.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Jake]

So then. Yeah, so we were trying to name the band and then Wallows. I was. I was. I remember I was in a sauna, actually, and I was thinking about what we could call it, and then Wallows popped into the brain because I remembered it from the game and then brought up to them, and the rest is history.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Jake]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shane]

That's amazing.

[Jake]

That's Wallows.

[Shane]

I like Wallows because it's like. I wallow in my, like, stuff.

[Dylan]

Yeah. Yeah, it's sort of like.

[Shane]

What?

[Jake]

I don't know. I don't know. It's interesting.

[Shane]

Okay, what were you saying?

[Dylan]

Oh, no, I was saying, like, because it's a Wallow, it Sounds like a verb. Like. Like a. Like an adverb or something.

[Shane]

Well, if it was. If it was, then yes.

[Dylan]

Wallowing is a verb.

[Jake]

Right.

[Shane]

An LA show soon.

[Dylan]

We are. Yes.

[Jake]

Yeah, we're playing Dodger Stadium.

[Dylan]

Yeah, Dodger Stadium with My Chemical Romance. Two days, two nights.

[Shane]

Wait, when?

[Dylan]

End of July.

[Shane]

I will be there.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

No, I'm not kidding. Like, I'm here. End of July.

[Jake]

Yeah, it'd be awesome.

[Shane]

What's the date?

[Brayden]

2620. It's Saturday. Sunday.

[Dylan]

Yeah. 2627. Yeah.

[Jake]

Yeah. That's gonna be amazing, man.

[Shane]

Are you excited?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Do you guys, like, what's your favorite? Like, like, what's your music taste like? What's your favorite bands of all time? Your favorite song singers of all time?

[Jake]

Like, oh, I love the Beatles. Yeah, they're my favorite. So I'm just gonna end it there because it's so easy to just leave it there and just. It's just. Yeah. How about you guys?

[Shane]

You kind of look like one of the Beatles.

[Jake]

Interesting. What's funny? I don't intentionally do my hair like this or anything. I literally buzz cut my hair and I just let it grow. I don't. It just grew like this.

[Shane]

Which one you look like?

[Jake]

I don't know. Danny said I look like George Harrison, but.

[Shane]

Yeah, that's.

[Jake]

Oh, yeah. I don't know if. I don't know.

[Shane]

I know what he looks like. Sorry.

[Jake]

Have you seen the new Beatles biopic?

[Shane]

Yeah, it was very well cast.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Dylan]

I feel like you're John mixed with Paul.

[Jake]

Really? Interesting.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Dylan]

I think you lean more John, though.

[Jake]

Really? That's interesting. Paul Hare.

[Dylan]

John Face.

[Jake]

Whoa. Interesting. I don't know. That's weird.

[Shane]

So you like the Beatles?

[Jake]

I do like the Beatles. Yeah. That. My dad showed me the Beatles when I was a kid. Like, it kind of changed my life and made me want to write songs and play music. Yeah.

[Dylan]

Same story for me. It was the same thing for me. Like, the Beatles were like the. I was singing Abbey Road, the album, front to back at 3 years old, like in my basement kind of thing.

[Brayden]

Yeah, I like the Beatles, too. I like the Beatles, too.

[Jake]

Cole get to know you? Yeah.

[Brayden]

I think it was like the Strokes was the band that made me.

[Shane]

I love the Strokes.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Someday's my favorite song of all time.

[Jake]

Yeah. No, the Strokes, one of my favorite bands of all time.

[Shane]

Yeah, they're great.

[Jake]

Cole kind of looks like one of the Strokes.

[Shane]

So do you.

[Jake]

You have like the fab hair mixed with the fab.

[Shane]

You kind of look like Julian now.

[Jake]

I Think he looks like Julian?

[Shane]

Hey, maybe.

[Brayden]

I don't.

[Shane]

Julian looks like.

[Jake]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Dylan]

Strokes were a big one. Kings of Leon were a huge one for me. Like, when I heard Taper Jean Girl in Disturbia, the movie.

[Shane]

I love that.

[Dylan]

Incredible.

[Jake]

I love disturbing.

[Shane]

I love that Table Jean girls in.

[Dylan]

The credits or something, I think.

[Jake]

No, it's in the. It's in the scene when he's on house arrest. He's putting down the gnome and.

[Dylan]

Okay.

[Jake]

Yeah. So good.

[Dylan]

And I went. And I got, like, obsessed with them, and I was like, I need to do that.

[Jake]

Yeah. They were, like, life changing.

[Dylan]

Make music like this. And then that's why. One of the first songs we ever covered and learned was a Kings of Leon song called Molly's Chambers. It's, like, from their first album, but they're sort of like, the reason I like. I mean, Led Zeppelin and Beatles, Hendrix, Stones, all that stuff is, like, why we did originally. It's like what Braden and I bonded over when we were really little. And then, like, what we were into when we met Cole. But then, like, hearing though Kings of Leon is when I was like, okay, I really need to be in a band. For some reason, I was like, I want to be like that.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

I want to be like that.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

I never. I don't think I ever got as rock and roll as they originally were. They were like, like, actually, like, rock and roll lifestyle when they started, but Kings of Leon. Yeah.

[Shane]

Oh, wow.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

Yeah, they were. They were like. They're three brothers and a cousin, so they're a family band, and they were just like, you know, sex, drugs, rock and roll vibe was like their whole thing. Yeah. Was their whole thing.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

And ours is like catan, cold brew and cold plunge. Yeah, cold plunge.

[Shane]

I love a cold plunge.

[Jake]

Same. Same. Mega. Yeah, Mega. Same. Do you have a. Do you have a cold plunge?

[Shane]

I do. I don't use it.

[Jake]

Nice.

[Shane]

It's filled with leaves.

[Jake]

That's kind of cool. Yeah, it's like. It's like. It's like a tea.

[Shane]

It's just like you have the maintenance that goes behind. It is, like, such a. To do.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

It's like water from it and then just.

[Jake]

Yeah, you just. Yeah, you can.

[Dylan]

Kettle.

[Jake]

It's like tea. Yeah.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Jake]

You can put green tea leaves in it.

[Shane]

Yeah. You guys drink tea?

[Jake]

Tea. You know what? I love tea, but I don't drink it as much as I drink coffee.

[Shane]

Yeah. Yeah. I hate tea.

[Dylan]

You hate tea?

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Brayden]

You like coffee?

[Jake]

Yeah. Coffee.

[Dylan]

I'm addicted to coffee.

[Shane]

Yeah, me too.

[Dylan]

Yeah. You guys actually ordered me one. I'm gonna drink after this on my drive.

[Shane]

You want it now?

[Jake]

It was so good.

[Dylan]

I'm having my way home. Like, enjoy it in the car.

[Jake]

I'm actually feeling. Because I had cold brew before I got here and cold brew here. I'm feeling it in behind my eyes, like, in my eyelids. Have some water because I'm enjoying it.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Jake]

I'm enjoying this behind the eye pulse. Like, I feel like my blood, my veins pulsing by my eyes while I look at you.

[Shane]

Don't give me chills.

[Jake]

It's interesting.

[Shane]

It's kind of fun, like, in a good way.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Okay. I'm really excited for a group chat, you guys.

[Dylan]

Yeah, me too. We got to get it right.

[Shane]

I mean, like, I am going to text in it every day.

[Dylan]

Please.

[Brayden]

That's great.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Jake]

Who do you think is going to respond the most?

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

Wow.

[Jake]

About the least.

[Shane]

You, maybe.

[Brayden]

That's right. Yeah.

[Jake]

I'm bad.

[Shane]

Okay. You have to send your Greek yogurt every day.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Shane]

You have to send the wordle.

[Dylan]

Yeah. And then finally, someone. I can share the world.

[Shane]

Yes. Do you. Do you do. Do you do the Spottle?

[Dylan]

Oh, yes.

[Brayden]

Oh, we were doing that.

[Dylan]

Did it recently. We got it.

[Jake]

Yes.

[Shane]

Should we do it all together right now?

[Jake]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Dylan]

Yes. This is a great way.

[Jake]

Do you play a contextual, by the way, as well?

[Dylan]

Contexto.

[Jake]

Okay. We'll talk about.

[Shane]

The reason I can't do connections is because somebody once tweeted. I think the connections gave me schizophrenia, and schizophrenia is my number one fear. So I just. I can't. Okay, so ready? Who's our first guest? I always go with Taylor Swift. So do you care?

[Jake]

Let's go, Taylor. Okay, let's go, Taylor.

[Shane]

Taylor Swift. Okay. Wow. Female member. Okay. It's a solo female pop star from the USA down lower than 2006. Should we go with Madonna as our second?

[Jake]

I like Madonna. I like Madonna.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Brayden]

What's the pop. What's the.

[Shane]

It's not close to number two. Okay. Let's try Madonna.

[Jake]

Let's try Madonna. Oh, that's a great guess. Okay.

[Shane]

Lower than 1983. Should we do share?

[Jake]

Okay, so maybe we're thinking.

[Dylan]

And it's less popular than Madonna. I feel like share would make sense.

[Shane]

No, no, it's. It's. It's.

[Jake]

Yeah, it's.

[Shane]

Yeah, it's less popular. Let's try share.

[Jake]

Let's try share.

[Shane]

Share.

[Jake]

Wow.

[Dylan]

Can we get it in three?

[Jake]

Oh, this is Crazy.

[Dylan]

That was incredible. That was incredible. You kind of did that yourself. You got that.

[Shane]

Thanks.

[Dylan]

Do you swaddle every day?

[Shane]

Yeah, every single day has it.

[Dylan]

We're on there. So sometimes we'll just put our name in first and just to see where it gets us.

[Jake]

Yeah. That's fun. That's fun to see.

[Dylan]

We're in there.

[Jake]

It's fun.

[Dylan]

Maybe one day.

[Shane]

Have. Have you ever been it before?

[Jake]

Maybe. I don't know. I don't know.

[Shane]

I think you have. I think we really. I think you have.

[Dylan]

That's so.

[Jake]

That's crazy.

[Shane]

Yeah. Yes. And they play. Are you bored yet? Yes. You definitely were.

[Jake]

That's a pinch me.

[Shane]

That's a pinch me. What's your biggest pinch me moment ever that we've had? Yeah.

[Jake]

Might be being on this podcast.

[Shane]

Don't play with me.

[Jake]

I'm serious. Feels good. I want to get pinched. Yeah. Other than this, honestly, maybe like playing Coachella, like hearing for the first time we're playing Coachella back in 2019. That was a big pinch me because it's.

[Shane]

I went to that first Coachella.

[Jake]

Oh, really?

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Jake]

Who. Who was the headliners?

[Shane]

Ariana.

[Dylan]

Kid Cudi, Childish, Cambino and Team and Paula.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Dylan]

And then Ariana were like the three headliners.

[Shane]

Who was Billy.

[Jake]

Did Billy played then?

[Shane]

That was the first time I ever saw Billy. And then who else? Julia. Who else? Who else was the headliner? I remember Fisher was there.

[Dylan]

I remember that was the weekend there that year. No, no, that was already headlined.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

At that point. I don't know.

[Jake]

That was fun.

[Shane]

That was a fun year.

[Jake]

It was a fun year.

[Dylan]

It was fun. We played like early. We played like 1:30 in the Mojave tent.

[Shane]

Oh, that's a great. Did you have fun?

[Dylan]

Yes. But it was the first show of the whole. Nothing happens to her for that album. And we had never played the new songs live for an audience we'd never played with in ear monitors ever. So it was like a first all on the Coachella stage for the first time. And it was like a ton of technical difficulties. Really nerve wracking. I remember after that I was like, we're never doing Coachella as the first stop of a tour ever again. Because it was like a lot. So, like, you need to be comfortable and like, already on the road for a bit at that point before playing.

[Shane]

I feel it's also like such a stage. Like, it's on YouTube and it's on. Everyone sees it.

[Dylan]

We played in 2022. That was definitely better.

[Shane]

What stage you guys do Then outdoor theater. Do you like the outdoor theater better than Mojave?

[Dylan]

Yeah, outdoor theater. I think I was just at Coachella again. I think that outdoor theater.

[Shane]

I know. I saw you and I almost said, hi, you there? Yeah.

[Dylan]

Oh, where'd you see me?

[Jake]

Where?

[Dylan]

Where?

[Shane]

Claro.

[Dylan]

Oh, claro.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

Well, I was kind of going to reference that because that. I feel like that the Marias had the same spot, like, the same slot the night.

[Shane]

You see the Maria's, too? Yeah, yeah, they were great.

[Dylan]

They're the homies. But Claire was a homie, too. But then we like it. That slot at night. I was like, this is the best set time at coachella. Like that 8:30pm outdoor theater.

[Shane]

That was Charlie's. That was Charlie set, too. Yeah.

[Dylan]

Beautiful. Like, that's sort of. I think that's the best lot of Coachella. Um. But yeah, what was the oh, pinch me moments? I mean, it's not necessarily like a pinch me in a way where I'm like, I'm so excited. I can't believe. It was more like, what are you talking about? But Morrissey came to a show we played a couple of years ago. We did this, like, 50th anniversary special show at the Roxy, and they asked us to play, and we were like, yeah, we have a lot of history there at the Roxy. And we played and. And then someone told us. They were like, Morrissey from the Smiths. They're like, morrissey is apparently a big Wallace fan. He's asking to come to the show.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Dylan]

I was like. We were like, what are you talking about? Morris?

[Jake]

He's.

[Dylan]

No. Yeah, right. And they were like, no, no. They're like, no, for real. And then, like, time went on. Then they were like, yeah, we're saving tickets for Morrissey. We're like, oh.

[Jake]

We're like, okay, sure, he's gonna show up. Yeah.

[Dylan]

And then the day of the show, they're like, he's coming. Apparently he's coming. You're like, okay, right? And then we were before they said, they're like, he's in the building. He's ready to watch. We're like, morris is here. Like, I can't imagine Morrissey being a fan of anything, let alone wallows. And then.

[Shane]

Huh?

[Dylan]

Oh, yeah.

[Shane]

Who's. Who is that?

[Jake]

He is.

[Dylan]

He's the singer of the Smiths.

[Shane]

Okay, great.

[Jake]

You know the Smiths?

[Shane]

I know the. The. Please, please, please let me get what I want.

[Dylan]

Yes, yes.

[Shane]

That's like the movie that man.

[Dylan]

To say the least. But still crazy that he was at A wallow show. But I guess that he was like, there's a really funny video of him sitting there. He looks so upset and, like, he looks so mad. And I think it's apparently, like, our fans are really loud. It was, like, really. A lot of screaming. Like, screaming girl voices, you know? And I think he. It was way too loud for him. And he left, like, three songs in, and I was like, that's the perfect Morrissey story. Like, didn't even need to meet him. It's just the fact that he was.

[Shane]

There and he got to see how loud your fans were. How cool is that?

[Dylan]

I don't think he liked it. Yeah, he got out of there. I was like. But that's like a. Something that comes to mind where it's like, this person that is also very. I feel, like, influential on our writing.

[Shane]

Right?

[Jake]

Yeah, for sure.

[Dylan]

Like, to be a fan and come to our show was like, that's crazy. It's wild.

[Shane]

You guys all write together. Like, who does the. What's the vibe?

[Jake]

Yeah, we do all right together.

[Dylan]

Do you have a pinch me moment? Like, one that's really cool to you?

[Brayden]

Maybe. Maybe. It was when we. When we first started, we had, like, the Wallows music at Gmail. That was, like, what we were getting reached out to under. But when Andrew sent us an email, I remember being like, oh, my God. Because he. Andrew's our manager, and he works at a company. He worked at a company called Monotone, and I was an intern there when I was at. @ USC.

[Shane]

Oh, wow.

[Brayden]

When I was there, I crashed my car, and it was awesome with all the salad for everyone in it.

[Shane]

Wait, was that. Was that because when you're. You were a music business major, right?

[Brayden]

Yes.

[Shane]

And you have to do an internship for the music business major.

[Brayden]

Correct. So that. It was. It was like a summer that I did that for credits or whatever. And then, yeah, when he emailed us, I was like, hey, like, you might remember me. Like, I crashed my car at the thing when I. And he was like, oh, yeah, of course. And then, you know, and then we've been working with them.

[Shane]

That's amazing. Yeah, that's a really sweet pinch me moment.

[Brayden]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

Although when the. When the email started, like, pouring in labels, too, that was a. That was crazy for us.

[Brayden]

We were just like little kids. I don't know. Funny time.

[Dylan]

It was cool.

[Jake]

You have the truck tattooed on your arm, right, that you crashed?

[Brayden]

Yeah, it was. It was a truck.

[Jake]

It's.

[Shane]

It's okay. Yeah, it's a whole. To do yes.

[Dylan]

It takes the shirt off you.

[Shane]

I think you're going to have a new pinch me moment soon. I think you're going to get sent a lot of Greek yogurt.

[Jake]

Oh.

[Dylan]

Oh, my God.

[Brayden]

Siggy's brand. Icelandic, Greek, whatever it is.

[Jake]

Skier.

[Shane]

I like. No, like, I don't think you are ready. Like, I really think, like, you're about to get sent a lot of Greek yogurt.

[Dylan]

I'm gonna get sent a lot of Taco Bell.

[Shane]

Yes. And Taco Bell.

[Jake]

I love Perfect bars.

[Shane]

What do you guys want?

[Jake]

I'm gonna be getting sent a lot of stir fry.

[Dylan]

Vegetable stir fry.

[Jake]

Vegetable stir fry.

[Dylan]

Chris has ordered you certify every day. That reminds me of a pinch me moment. Recently. We're addicted to a game, a board game called Settlers of Catan. Have you heard of this game?

[Shane]

I've heard of it. I've never played it.

[Jake]

You would love it.

[Shane]

Should we play it together?

[Jake]

You can play Universe on the phone and we can do that.

[Shane]

Oh, is it on the phone?

[Jake]

There is an app on the phone.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Dylan]

It's amazing. But we play. It's all we do on tour. Like, it's really all we do. And I think they caught on or some reach out to them or something, and they. We just had a zoom call with them, like, about how we can, like, collaborate. And they're. But I guess they're gonna send us, like, every. Each of us, every single version of the game possible.

[Shane]

That's amazing.

[Dylan]

So we're just gonna have this, like, closet full of katan.

[Shane]

What did you just do to that? I'm so sorry.

[Jake]

Oh, sometimes. Sometimes these are a little.

[Shane]

I am so sorry. I did not mean to interrupt. Are you okay?

[Jake]

Sometimes these are a little inconvenient. I don't know if the convenient. This feels like a BlackBerry. It's the titty we need, like, the iPhone of this.

[Shane]

It's the titty of the water.

[Dylan]

I love the titty of the water.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Jake]

To me, this feels like not. Not exactly that. You know this. I do. I'm gonna. This feels like a dongle or something. We need, like, the.

[Shane]

What else would you want that?

[Jake]

Because it's so.

[Dylan]

But you got it on. You just tripped it on. You see, that's the convenience of that.

[Shane]

That's. You never drip when you have that.

[Jake]

But sometimes I have a hard time. I feel like. Like a monkey when I'm trying to work on this.

[Shane]

Yeah. That's the beauty of it, really.

[Jake]

Okay, let me try.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Jake]

And especially because it's called Smart water. Makes me a little insecure. Yeah.

[Shane]

Well, you have to take off the safety thing. Yeah.

[Dylan]

Look how you're done.

[Shane]

Okay. Ready?

[Dylan]

You just flip that open.

[Brayden]

I'll give it a taste.

[Jake]

Pretty nice, actually. That's pretty nice. I've. Have they made these more like the iPhone?

[Shane]

What?

[Jake]

There has been arrowhead, maybe?

[Shane]

Arrowhead, yes, they do.

[Jake]

Arrowhead is tricky to get this going. Arrow. I think I have, like, arrowhead, like, memories of this.

[Shane]

You're not gonna get sent stir fry. You're gonna get sent some of those.

[Jake]

I. I do love this. I actually. You changed my opinion. Smart water. That was really easy. I'm not so. I'm glad we worked that out on.

[Shane]

I'm sorry. I've never been so caught off guard by anything in my entire life. It was like, showering with socks on. Like, I don't know what I just witnessed.

[Jake]

Yeah, just go. Just bypassing.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Jake]

Whoa.

[Shane]

I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to, like, yuck. Your, like, whatever.

[Jake]

That's great. You just changed my mind on that.

[Shane]

Oh, my God. Really?

[Jake]

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like Steve Jobs or something. I don't know why I keep referencing the iPhone.

[Shane]

Sorry, do you love your iPhone?

[Jake]

Yeah, I do. I love watching the video of Steve Jobs presenting the first iPhone.

[Shane]

What does he say?

[Jake]

He's just. It's just so fun to see everyone go like, ooh and ah. Back in the day, and.

[Dylan]

No idea.

[Jake]

No idea. And you can. And you can scroll. And it was like, oh, you know.

[Dylan]

And 2008, my mom had an iPhone, and I was like. I thought it was the coolest thing.

[Shane]

Yeah, it was like that. That was like, the closest to the future I've ever felt.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Jake]

I used to love watching, like, the unboxing videos of the iPhone. And just like.

[Shane]

You ever watch I Justine?

[Jake]

No. No, I Justine sounds.

[Shane]

No, it's okay.

[Jake]

Interesting.

[Shane]

All right, are you guys ready to get into the Tell me what's wrongs?

[Jake]

Yes, please.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Are you?

[Jake]

Yes.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Jake]

I don't know.

[Shane]

So the right in, and they tell us what's wrong, and then we give them advice.

[Jake]

Love it.

[Shane]

Does anyone need to pee? You're the only one that has it.

[Dylan]

I did before we started.

[Shane]

You did do that. We've all peed.

[Dylan]

We've all peed in your house.

[Jake]

We're prepared. We're prepared.

[Shane]

Oh, my God. I like to make plans with my friends, but at the end of the day, we always end up doing the same stuff over and over again. And when I try to make different plans, they never Want to. What should I do?

[Dylan]

Find new friends. Kidding.

[Shane]

That's like. That's, like. We're easing into it. That's a really easy problem to have. Like, you just. I would say, like, you need to, like, branch out.

[Brayden]

Yeah. So they're just bored.

[Shane]

Well, also, like, I prescribe. Are you bored yet?

[Jake]

Say puss Scribe.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Jake]

That's so good.

[Shane]

Thank you so much.

[Jake]

So good.

[Shane]

Thank you. Yeah.

[Jake]

Cool. I feel you'd have good advice for this.

[Brayden]

I mean, I. I don't know. I. I kind of, like, I'm a creature of. A creature of habit. I like doing the same stuff.

[Dylan]

How do you convince other people to want to do different things?

[Brayden]

Yeah. I think you just have to, like. Okay.

[Dylan]

To lead the charge.

[Brayden]

Yeah.

[Shane]

You have to do it. Sorry, Cole, right?

[Brayden]

No, no, please.

[Shane]

No, you.

[Brayden]

I recently. Or, like, two, three years ago, I started playing tennis just, like, on my own. Like, you just have to, like, pick something to do alone.

[Shane]

Agreed.

[Brayden]

Like, do. So, like. Or like, if you want to do, like.

[Jake]

I don't know.

[Brayden]

I did Pilates once alone, and then you just do it.

[Shane]

You do reformer?

[Brayden]

I have done reformer Pilates.

[Jake]

It's so fun.

[Dylan]

Oh, yeah.

[Shane]

You do reformer?

[Dylan]

Oh, yeah.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

You guys go to aloe?

[Dylan]

No, never been alo.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Brayden]

Oh, that's. That's the one I see online.

[Jake]

Right?

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Brayden]

Yeah. I haven't been there, but if you just do something alone for yourself, like 10 or something. An activity you, like, attract people to.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Brayden]

Like. Like now, like this morning, I played tennis. Me and Milo.

[Jake]

Nice.

[Shane]

And who's Milo?

[Jake]

Milo.

[Brayden]

One of my very close friends.

[Shane]

Okay, cool.

[Brayden]

And we played, and we walked in, and they're like, oh, hey, Cole. We hear, like, there's someone we knew, and then next door to us was someone else we knew. And I was like, oh. But I didn't, like, actively seek that out. We just, like, started playing tennis, and then suddenly, you kind of, like, are integrated in this thing. So do that.

[Shane]

So you put scribe. Challengers.

[Brayden]

Challengers.

[Shane]

Yes. Yeah, yeah.

[Dylan]

Just find yourself a challenger situation.

[Shane]

My significant other is so nice and so good at what he does. But, like, how TF Do I make him funny? He's so damn serious. And while I like that, I want him to crack a smile, can I just be honest? That is so much better than having someone that thinks they're funny and that they're not.

[Dylan]

They won't even crack a smile.

[Shane]

I mean, I'd rather them not if they're not.

[Jake]

What did she say in the beginning?

[Shane]

She's like, I love My partner.

[Jake]

Love the partner.

[Shane]

He's not funny at all.

[Jake]

He's not funny. Oh, that's tricky.

[Shane]

I mean, you can't fix that.

[Jake]

You can't change someone's personality.

[Shane]

You can't.

[Jake]

Yeah. My advice would genuinely be tickle him. Tickle your partner when he's least expecting it, when he's going to sleep, when his eyes are closed. Nice little tickle. You're rewiring his brain circuits and neurons to understand happiness and laughter. And I feel like if you do that enough, his neuropathways will merge to. To responding to situations with humor and laughter. That would be my advice. Tickle him.

[Shane]

Is that real?

[Jake]

No.

[Shane]

Okay. Okay. I prescribe veep because how could you not laugh?

[Jake]

Also good.

[Dylan]

Yeah. Or like, whatever. I mean, every. Also, everyone's sense of humor is subjective. So I feel like, what. What does she find funny? Like, is there something that she wants to show him that he hasn't seen before? That maybe he'll pick up on the humor and he'll start to have different bits. Different jokes. Like, if it's curb your enthusiasm, maybe he'll start to, like, have some funny bits or something.

[Shane]

You guys like curb?

[Jake]

Oh, my God. Curbs the best.

[Dylan]

That's like, my sense of humor.

[Shane]

Yeah, that.

[Jake]

In South Park.

[Shane]

South park was the first show I ever watched.

[Jake]

Wow. What episode you remember?

[Shane]

I think it was the one where they did World of Warcraft.

[Jake]

Fantastic. Yeah.

[Shane]

And then when they went to Casa Bonita, and then. God, I love South Park.

[Jake]

I once said that Trey Parker and Matt Stone are the London and McCartney of our generation.

[Shane]

You know, my parents were actually at the first.

[Jake]

The.

[Shane]

The party where South Park. Okay, well, like, I feel like this was like my. You know, when you hear something from your parents and then it just becomes, like, urban legend because you're like, I'm not gonna fact check this, but they were at a Christmas party and they. South park started as, like, a Christmas card.

[Jake]

That's right. Yeah.

[Shane]

Yeah, they were at. They were at that party where the South Park Christmas card was played. Whoa. Whoa. Yeah.

[Dylan]

So awesome.

[Brayden]

Legendary.

[Shane]

So I don't know if I'm lying, though.

[Dylan]

I don't think you are.

[Shane]

I don't think I am either.

[Dylan]

But that sounds like a very specific story to be lying.

[Shane]

Yes, but it's. So it started as a Christmas card and they were there.

[Jake]

So maybe show your boyfriend South Park.

[Shane]

Yeah, yeah. But it really is like, I just want this person to be super grateful that he isn't trying to be funny.

[Dylan]

That's a great point.

[Shane]

Like, someone that is trying to be funny and they're not. Like, what do you want me to do?

[Jake]

That's true.

[Dylan]

So then if he starts trying to be funny and it's not funny, just go back.

[Shane]

Like, if you're trying to be funny and you're not, you need to be self aware in the fact that you are not funny.

[Dylan]

True.

[Jake]

That's very true.

[Dylan]

Oh, yeah. It's painful.

[Shane]

It's painful. It's. It hurts.

[Dylan]

I'd much rather someone be just not funny.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Jake]

Do you feel like your humor comes from a part of you don't really know or understand, or do you think you, like, formulate your humor? Like, is it. Is it more instinctual? Is it more like, I have something funny I want to say?

[Brayden]

Like, nature versus wow.

[Shane]

What a great question. I don't really know the difference.

[Jake]

Maybe same, I guess.

[Shane]

Like, I think. So whenever I have something funny I want to say, like, it becomes awkward. Like, if I'm, like, planning on saying something funny, like, it's not. Like, I just won a Webby Award and you're only allowed to do, like, five word speech. So my speech was, I want to say more. And, like, it came across, like, really horrible.

[Jake]

Okay. Okay.

[Shane]

Like, because, like, normally it'd be, like, it, like. Yeah. So I guess I'm more instinctual.

[Jake]

Yeah. I mean, I. I think I. I truly don't. Maybe people say that I'm funny or say things like, you're funny, that. Thank you. Like, it's funny. I don't think about trying to be.

[Shane]

I.

[Jake]

It's a weird thing. I don't try to be funny. So it's, like, Funny how?

[Shane]

It's just natural, I guess.

[Jake]

Like, I just.

[Dylan]

Maybe it's quick. Like, just drop a pun faster than.

[Shane]

You could have ever, really.

[Jake]

And sometimes. And sometimes. And you guys know this side of me, sometimes I'm not funny at all. I feel like these kind of situations maybe bring out something where I want to just say something because it's fun to just speak and have a good time, and it's fun and. But, yeah, I was just curious how you felt about that.

[Shane]

No, I think. I think it's more instinctual.

[Jake]

Like, me and my friend Kate have a bit where whenever we say something really funny, we say we couldn't write it. It's like, what we say because we're like, oh, dude, that was so. We definitely couldn't have just thought of that. We couldn't have, like, planned out what we just said. And so whenever we say something hilarious, we're like, oh, we couldn't write it.

[Shane]

I.

[Jake]

So it's interesting.

[Shane]

Yeah. I have that. Not a bit, but it's. I'll just, like, make my friends tell me I'm funny.

[Jake]

That's funny.

[Shane]

Yeah. Like. Like Julius Julia says, like. Like, you're gifted.

[Dylan]

You're funny.

[Jake]

I do think you're funny. There's. There's people that are naturally funny. Like Ryan Lee. Naturally funny guy.

[Brayden]

Funny guy.

[Jake]

So funny. It's funny. And then I guess there's people that don't smile.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Jake]

And that's okay. Well, maybe not.

[Shane]

I have two friends who I feel bring out the worst in me. I would cut them off, but I don't have anyone else to fall back on. And I'm with them for parts of the day where it would be hard to ignore them. What should I do? I need help.

[Dylan]

I wonder if. I mean. Yeah, bring out the worst in her.

[Shane]

You just need to make new friends.

[Dylan]

Yeah. I mean, truly. I. I imagine it's like they're around them for certain parts of the day, so it's like school. I imagine it's probably school. You just don't need to be friends with people that bring out the worst in you.

[Shane]

Yeah. And your friendships will change over time. Like, it sounds like you're young.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Unless they're your co workers. Like, oh, no. But, like, if you know what I mean. Like, friendships change, friendships go.

[Dylan]

It takes time and experience in life to, like, realize the people that were getting the worst out of you and, like, bringing the worst out of you. I mean, you don't realize it in the moment. So if she's able to recognize that, like, first up. Yeah, it's. It's. You just don't need to be friends with them.

[Shane]

I saw my ex at a party for the first time since our breakup. And because he lives far away, I let him sleep over at my place. You know where this story goes. And now I don't know what to do. We broke up because he cheated on me. But it has been eight months. Am I crazy?

[Jake]

It sounds like maybe you still like this guy. Is that what it sounds like to you?

[Shane]

Well, you know, it's. People are always looking for closure. I would prescribe Closure by Taylor Swift. And I would prescribe Tis the Damn Season by Taylor Swift.

[Dylan]

You got those good.

[Jake]

You got those goods.

[Dylan]

Yeah, thanks.

[Brayden]

Is it always a song?

[Shane]

Right now it is.

[Dylan]

Okay.

[Shane]

Right now it is.

[Dylan]

I think about what I would prescribe for one of these.

[Shane]

You look like you're lost in thought.

[Jake]

I am lost.

[Dylan]

There's no shame in, like, what you know. You know how the story goes. Sleeps over, like, whatever. If you. If you guys hook up after a breakup, whatever.

[Shane]

It happens.

[Dylan]

But so, no, you're not crazy. It doesn't matter.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

I don't think you wanted to do then all good. Like, even if. Even if they wronged you, I mean, maybe, like, don't let. Don't. You don't need to get back together with them. Because I think people tend to, like, repeat the same mistakes, especially the same person. But I think, like, why don't you.

[Shane]

Prescribe Same Old Mistakes by Tame Impala?

[Jake]

Fantastic.

[Dylan]

There you go.

[Brayden]

Nice. That's great.

[Dylan]

Yeah, I think it's fine.

[Shane]

And if you like Rihanna. The Rihanna cover.

[Jake]

That's right.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Shane]

This guy was hooking up with. Pulled out his vape and was hitting it during sex. Like, he couldn't even wait.

[Dylan]

Wow.

[Shane]

It Icked the out of me. But now we're in a situationship. I don't want to just leave. So what do I do? You gotta go.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Shane]

That's crazy.

[Jake]

Oh, that's pretty bad.

[Shane]

Yeah. I was once hooking up with this guy, and he also did that and.

[Brayden]

No.

[Shane]

Yeah. Yes. And ran around the bed. Do you remember, like, do you remember when people used to do that thing where they would, like. Yep. Louise. Yeah. Yeah.

[Dylan]

Like the dance.

[Shane]

Yes. When you would. When you would, like, kick your leg and go like.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Yes. And he ran around the bed and did that. I think he was. I think he was on drugs or something. And I sat there, like, naked, and I was like. I was like, am I. Is this. And he was, like, hitting his vape as he was doing.

[Jake]

That's. That sounds like a Nora.

[Shane]

And it was the craziest thing. And I was sitting there like. And I was like, that's incredible.

[Jake]

Geez.

[Shane]

And then. Yeah, it was pretty crazy that that happened, actually.

[Dylan]

You should date this guy.

[Shane]

I haven't seen him in years. And I was sitting there like, is this really happening to me right now?

[Jake]

Was it. Did. Did he have to. He had to pull away to have that happen.

[Shane]

Yes. Yes, yes, yes. He was running around going like this and being his babe. Wow. Wow.

[Jake]

I'm definitely. My mind's running wild.

[Shane]

I'm, like, not lying. This really happened to me.

[Dylan]

It sounds like this submission is mild in comparison.

[Shane]

Yes. Like.

[Jake]

Yes.

[Brayden]

Yeah. Is this your own question that you.

[Shane]

Yes. I just played it down. Yeah. I would leave him.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

Yeah. Not worth.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

Life of pain. Geez.

[Jake]

That's really, really funny.

[Shane]

My ex blocked me on everything a month ago because I wouldn't stop drunk calling him. Me, I don't have an ax. I'm gonna restart. I need to restart me. My ex blocked me on everything a month ago because I wouldn't stop drunk calling him. Last night I went out with my girls and got so drunk and venmoed him a dollar with the note, Please FaceTime me. He just texted me to off. I'm so embarrassed. What do I do? You are so. She is so creative.

[Brayden]

Yeah, the Venmo's really fun.

[Shane]

I've seen that happen before.

[Dylan]

Really?

[Shane]

Uh huh.

[Dylan]

I. Yeah. I've not had these experiences.

[Jake]

I mean, so. So. So she's the one that's drunk calling him once.

[Shane]

She's the problem.

[Jake]

I don't know. I mean, it sounds like maybe you got to find someone else.

[Dylan]

Yeah. Something. The simple answer is stop. Just try and stop.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

Block his number.

[Jake]

Block his. Yeah, just cold turkey him.

[Shane]

You know, I was once hooking up with this guy and I would text him so much that my friends had to change his name in my phone to a puzzle piece emoji, but jokes on them because I. And they deleted the text so I would never know. But I went on my computer and I found it.

[Jake]

Wow, that's hilarious.

[Shane]

He has a boyfriend.

[Jake]

I mean, one of my favorite stories I've heard recently is I have a friend. I'm not gonna name names. Who was with a new girl and her boyfriend was jealous. So he started sending.

[Shane]

Sorry.

[Jake]

So yeah, my. My friend was dating a girl.

[Shane]

Your friend was dating a girl.

[Jake]

And then her ex boyfriend was jealous. Was jealous.

[Shane]

Got it.

[Jake]

And he started sending Domino's Pizza to his house unpaid for. But like, said that, like, he would pay by cash. So every other day Domino's would come to his house and be like, okay, that'll be the 25 bucks. He's like, I didn't order a pizza.

[Shane]

So what do you do in that situation?

[Jake]

So he would tell them like, I didn't order this. And they'd be like, what? So then he had to call Domino's after, like, the third time. I called him once on the way home from like a show or something. I was like, hey, man, what's up? He's like, hey, dude, can I call you back? I was like, sure. He called me back. He's like, dude, sorry. I was dealing with Domino's. And I was like, what? And then he was like, yeah, I had to call them and say, like, put me on a band list. Like, he's like, never Deliver me pizzas to my house ever again. So he's currently.

[Shane]

Do you guys like Domino's?

[Dylan]

Yeah, why not?

[Jake]

You know what?

[Shane]

I don't love it.

[Jake]

I mean, I think love it. I think I don't love it. I think it's. It's okay. No, it's good super bowl food.

[Dylan]

Yeah. Or it's good. Like, it's good shitty pizza.

[Jake]

I don't know if I need a five course meal at the super bowl party.

[Shane]

Well, I'm from New York, so, like, I know, like, I know good pizza.

[Jake]

So even, like a Super bowl party occasion, you would have a good pizza.

[Shane]

Yeah. But you want to know something about me?

[Jake]

It's kind of fun.

[Shane]

Maybe I hate pizza.

[Dylan]

Oh, whoa. Oh, but you.

[Brayden]

But you.

[Dylan]

But you like Domino's.

[Shane]

No, I hate Domino's. Oh, like, Domino's is like. Like, we're not. Why you hate pizza? I hate pizza.

[Jake]

Do you hate bunnies?

[Shane]

No, I love bunnies.

[Jake]

Interesting. So what do you hate about pizza?

[Shane]

I don't know. Like, it's so unfulfilling. Whoa. Like, I'd rather have pasta. No.

[Jake]

Do you hate the taste of pizza or you hate the idea of pizza?

[Shane]

What do you think it is, Louise, for sure. The idea of pizza. Wow. Yeah, right? I mean, yeah, but it's like, I'm. Like, I'm gonna feel like, after and.

[Jake]

Okay, fair.

[Shane]

That's. I love pasta, too.

[Jake]

What's the difference? Couldn't you put. Could you put pizza in, like, a rigatoni and call it pasta?

[Shane]

Don't make me sick to my stomach.

[Jake]

Don't.

[Shane]

You know what I hate more than. Do you know what I hate more than anything in the entire world?

[Jake]

Is it rigatoni?

[Shane]

Baked fucking ziti.

[Jake]

Baked fucking ziti.

[Shane]

Baked ziti deserves a special place in hell.

[Jake]

Is it like an Olive Garden dish?

[Dylan]

No, it's like a lasagna kind of.

[Jake]

It's.

[Shane]

Don't give it that.

[Dylan]

Do you like lasagna?

[Shane]

I don't mind.

[Jake]

I don't like lasagna. I don't like.

[Dylan]

Really?

[Jake]

And I don't like pierogies.

[Shane]

Oh, okay. Like pierogies. I like pierogies.

[Jake]

They're so. Just not good. It's like. Like, they're, like, moist and I understand that.

[Dylan]

I'm into everything we're talking about currently.

[Shane]

You guys like Chinese food?

[Jake]

Oh, yeah.

[Shane]

I'm getting dim sum tomorrow in San Francisco because I have a show and they have the best in some in the country.

[Dylan]

Which one, please?

[Shane]

I forget. Where'd we go? Louise, will you. It was the best dim sum I've ever, ever had in my life.

[Dylan]

Are you gonna have more than one meal there?

[Shane]

Yeah. Why, you have a wreck?

[Jake]

Yeah, there's a lot of wrecks.

[Shane]

What?

[Dylan]

Well, they're one of my favorite restaurants. There's three or four of them in the Bay Area in general. But there's a place called Burma Superstar.

[Shane]

Burma Superstar.

[Dylan]

Burmese food. But then there's also, like. Like, it's the same thing, basically. It's called Burma Love. It's the same owners, but so it's Burma Superstar. Burma Love. Whatever would be closer to you. Really incredible. Really incredible food. It's. It's from. Yeah, it's food from Burma, which is, you know, like a little country in Asia, but okay. Really good. And then, like, if you want, like a. Or just like a quick, light, like, Mediterranean type. I don't mind salad or wrap, like, from a place called Suvla. And they have amazing Greek yogurt.

[Brayden]

Yogurt there.

[Dylan]

They have amazing Greek yogurt. They put baklava on it.

[Shane]

Oh, yummy.

[Dylan]

Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah, there's other places, but those are really good.

[Shane]

Are you ready for the final? Tell me what's wrong?

[Jake]

Correct. Wow.

[Shane]

And then, everybody, I need you to start thinking now. What did we learn today? Because I'm gonna ask you that, and I need an answer from everyone. Okay?

[Dylan]

Okay.

[Shane]

Okay. Is that your, like, thinking vibe?

[Jake]

Oh, yeah. I don't know.

[Shane]

I'm reading this fantasy book series, and the book boyfriend is the hottest man to literally ever exist list. I've had a boyfriend for two years, and now I'm comparing him to this fictional guy who I'm actually obsessed with. It's not healthy. I need a prescription. Grass.

[Dylan]

Yeah, that's the earth. Grass is a good grass. I don't think you put it perfectly.

[Shane]

Yeah, grass, Grass.

[Jake]

You need grass.

[Dylan]

For real.

[Shane]

Okay, you guys, what did we learn today?

[Jake]

First thing I thought of is that you don't like pizza.

[Shane]

Yeah, I don't.

[Dylan]

It's crazy.

[Jake]

That's cool.

[Dylan]

I learned that we're best friends now.

[Shane]

I. Me, too. I learned that, too.

[Dylan]

New best friend.

[Shane]

Yes. And we're about to have a group chat.

[Dylan]

We're about to have a group chat. There's so much more to talk about.

[Shane]

I know. We have so much more to talk about.

[Brayden]

What did you say earlier that I was like. I didn't know that you said something earlier that I want to remember.

[Dylan]

I forgot the Braden Said.

[Shane]

Oh, I know what it was.

[Brayden]

Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you said Something good that I didn't know about.

[Shane]

Out tickling?

[Jake]

No.

[Brayden]

Well, that was good.

[Shane]

Yeah, that was.

[Brayden]

I learned to just tickle them.

[Shane]

Yeah. Tickle them. I learned that you, like, love Greek yogurt. Whole milk. Whole milk, three times a day.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Siggies.

[Brayden]

Siggies. And we will watch Glee.

[Jake]

Oh, yes, we will.

[Shane]

We will. We will.

[Jake]

Yes.

[Shane]

What'd you learn? Did you already say what you learned?

[Dylan]

I said, I learned that we're best friends.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Dylan]

I'm trying to think of something.

[Shane]

Right. No, no, no. That's perfect. That's awesome. And you. And you didn't think about. Okay, I need an answer from you.

[Jake]

Oh.

[Brayden]

What was it that you said? I really. I really remember.

[Shane]

What was the vibe of the vibe.

[Brayden]

Recalling some story, and it was something. I didn't know that about you that I liked.

[Jake]

Interesting.

[Shane]

Strip club.

[Brayden]

No, I don't remember.

[Jake]

Weird. That's cool. I just have to watch it back. Yeah, we'll watch it back.

[Brayden]

But I learned a comment.

[Dylan]

Like, it was this, right?

[Shane]

Right?

[Jake]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brayden]

I learned a lot of things today that we. That Glee is amazing.

[Shane]

Yeah, you learned that Glee is amazing. Yay.

[Jake]

Yay.

[Shane]

Okay. Well, you guys, thanks for coming on. This was so fun.

[Jake]

Thank you.

[Shane]

No, my God, we have to do this again. And before we take photos, you need to. I'll put your numbers in my files.

[Dylan]

Okay.

[Jake]

Yes.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Jake]

Well, you have mine.

[Shane]

Yes. Okay. And then. Yes.

[Jake]

Yes.

[Shane]

And then you have to say hi, but you have to do it all at the same time to that camera.

[Dylan]

Okay, Great.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Dylan]

And have fun in San Francisco.

[Shane]

Oh, thank you. I will.

[Jake]

Awesome. Hi.

[Shane]

Oh, no, you're supposed to say bye. Okay, Ready? Ready? You have to do it a little more. Come on. Like, all together now. Like.