Session 82: Benny Blanco

Summary

Therapuss with Jake Shane – Session 82: Benny Blanco
Release Date: July 10, 2025

In Session 82 of Therapuss with Jake Shane, host Jake Shane sits down with renowned music producer and artist Benny Blanco for an engaging and introspective conversation. This episode delves into Benny's illustrious career, personal struggles, relationships, and mutual influences, all delivered with humor and sincerity.

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Welcome and Introductions

Jake Shane opens the session by warmly welcoming Benny Blanco, highlighting his significant contributions to the music industry.
"Benny Blanco, you have made some of your favorite songs we've ever heard, including mine." [00:37]

Career Journeys: From Octopus Reviews to TikTok Stardom

The discussion transitions to Benny's unique path to fame, humorously referencing his past endeavors.
"I used to review grilled octopus... It just kind of came to me." [03:31]
Benny shares his experiences with TikTok, explaining how prolific posting and creative skits propelled him into the limelight.
"I sometimes would post like 17 times a day... People loved it." [04:35]

Mental Health and OCD

Jake and Benny candidly discuss their battles with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), creating a space for vulnerability.
"I have really bad OCD... I would have to cluck my mouth every two counts." [09:00]
Benny adds her perspective, detailing her involuntary ticks and rituals.
"I do a thing when I walk where I have to stretch my arm out... It's insane." [12:06]

Relationships and Personal Life

A significant portion of the episode centers on relationships. Jake admits his lack of romantic experience, while Benny opens up about her engagement and relationship goals.
"I've never been on more than three dates with someone." [25:02]
Benny discusses her aspirations for a meaningful partnership, emphasizing the importance of kindness and shared passions.
"I wanted someone who was interested and passionate about something in their life." [19:06]

Pop Culture and Collaborations

Benny reminisces about her collaborations with major artists like Britney Spears and Finneas, offering insights into the music industry's inner workings.
"I've worked with Britney Spears... I've been making songs for like 16 years." [31:34]
Jake shares his admiration for Benny's work and expresses interest in future collaborations.
"I've seen that one... It's the best movie ever." [75:58]

Personal Anecdotes and Humor

The duo injects humor into the conversation, sharing embarrassing moments and quirky habits.
"I once got awkwardly laughed off stage after my performance." [73:38]
They also discuss their daily routines, wellness practices, and favorite cuisines, showcasing their personalities beyond the professional facade.

Closing Remarks and Mutual Appreciation

As the session wraps up, both Jake and Benny express their appreciation for each other and the listeners. Benny offers heartfelt advice to Jake about personal growth and relationships.
"I learned that you're a really good guy... I can't wait to watch Glee with you." [85:41]
Jake reciprocates the sentiment, highlighting the depth and enjoyment of the conversation.
"This was amazing." [86:28]

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Notable Quotes:

• Jake Shane: "I have really bad OCD... I used to cluck my mouth every two counts." [09:00]
• Benny Blanco: "I wanted someone who was interested and passionate about something in their life." [19:06]
• Jake Shane: "I've never been on more than three dates with someone." [25:02]
• Benny Blanco: "I did review grilled octopus... It just kind of came to me." [03:31]
• Jake Shane: "This was amazing." [86:28]

Key Takeaways:

• Benny Blanco's Unique Path to Fame: From reviewing grilled octopus to becoming a TikTok sensation, Benny's unconventional journey showcases the evolving landscape of fame and influence.
• Mental Health Advocacy: Both Jake and Benny openly discuss their experiences with OCD, destigmatizing mental health issues and promoting honest conversations.
• Importance of Meaningful Relationships: The episode emphasizes the value of finding genuine connections based on kindness, shared interests, and mutual support.
• Humor and Vulnerability: Through laughter and candid stories, the hosts create a relatable and engaging atmosphere for listeners.

Session 82: Benny Blanco offers a heartfelt and entertaining glimpse into the lives of two creative minds navigating fame, personal challenges, and the quest for meaningful connections. Whether you're a longtime listener or new to the show, this episode delivers insightful conversations paired with lighthearted humor.

Transcript

[Benny Blanco]

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[Jake]

Softness without the front seam for our.

[Benny Blanco]

Smoothest look and feel ever, Summer won't.

[Jake]

Know what hit it. Stretch your limits in the non stop.

[Benny Blanco]

Flexibility of the new Lululemon Align no line pant in select stores [e-mail].

[Jake]

Hi, welcome back to Therapist. Tonight we have on someone who, quite frankly, doesn't need much of an introduction, Benny Blanco. He is. He has made some of your favorite songs you've ever heard, including mine. He honestly is a real generational talent when it comes to producing music and I'm really lucky that I got to talk to him. He's also hysterical and was a great, great time to hang out with. And I'm really excited for you guys to hear the episode and get to know him more. If you don't know him already, which I'm honestly sure you do, this is my last week of tour right now. If I'm coming to a city near you, go to passthatpuss.com, click live with Jake Shane and just a bit of Tell Me what's wrong. Go to passthatpost.com and click Tell me what's Wrong. Leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Enjoy the episode. I love you.

[Benny Blanco]

Are you excited?

[Jake]

I'm excited.

[Benny Blanco]

I'm excited because I know, like, so. I know like, so many little things that. That I have no idea about, so it's gonna be very fun.

[Jake]

What do you know about so far?

[Benny Blanco]

We're gonna. You'll see.

[Jake]

Okay. Are you ready?

[Benny Blanco]

Are you nervous?

[Jake]

Honest to God, I feel like you're reading my mind because I was really nervous.

[Benny Blanco]

Are we on? Is this real?

[Jake]

Yeah. Is it half?

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, we're live.

[Jake]

I guess I'm kind of nervous.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. Is that why you're going?

[Jake]

Yeah, I think so.

[Benny Blanco]

I'm always. I'm like, I'm squeezing.

[Jake]

Oh, maybe I'll squeeze my Cassandra.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Who's Cassandra? Her. Hi.

[Jake]

Hi.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, we're on.

[Jake]

Okay, we're on. You said you had questions for me, so I'm not mad about that.

[Benny Blanco]

Who are you?

[Jake]

Oh, my name is Jake.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. I just know. Here's what I know. I know that you're hilarious. I know that, like, I fell in love with just seeing you. Just seeing your mouth move and you walk and you talk is like the cutest thing in the world. Like, you're like. You might be the cutest person in the world. Really? Yeah. Yeah. You're very cute.

[Jake]

Thank you.

[Benny Blanco]

You're very Cute. You're even cuter in person.

[Jake]

No, really. Somebody told me I was a catfish the other day.

[Benny Blanco]

No, no, no. That person's a piece of.

[Jake]

Oh, thank you.

[Benny Blanco]

Do we like. I like how it's like a thick mic.

[Jake]

It's like.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, yeah. It's like. Okay, so I know that and I know that there's something about, like, I was like, I was asking my friend, I was like, hey, how did this guy get big? And they were like, oh, this thing about, like, pussies. Like, he. Like something about an octopus.

[Jake]

Octopus.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, so I don't know.

[Jake]

I used to review. Well, I still do, but I would review grilled octopus.

[Benny Blanco]

What?

[Jake]

Yes.

[Benny Blanco]

You would just review grilled octopus?

[Jake]

Yes, and I would eat it. So, like. Okay, like, if you were sitting across from me at dinner, like, I would go, hi, pussies. And you would go, hi, Jake. And then we'd go, 10 sub. And I would eat the octopus and then I'd review it out of eight, because they have eight tentacles.

[Benny Blanco]

Do you love octopus?

[Jake]

Yeah, I do, but I mean, I definitely eat it a lot less than I used to.

[Benny Blanco]

How did you decide that you wanted to review octopus?

[Jake]

Like, I was really bored and high one day and it just kind of came to me.

[Benny Blanco]

What year was this?

[Jake]

2022.

[Benny Blanco]

You were coveted? You got famous in covet.

[Jake]

It was. Well, no, it was 2020. It like all, like, it all took off. 2022, 2023.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. But you were still. You're a coveted baby.

[Jake]

I am a baby.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, so. So you did that, and then where did that evolve to? I just need, like the 2 minute version before I. Before we get wet.

[Jake]

Okay. So I started, like, I started posting on Tick Tock and I sometimes would post like 17 times a day.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

And kind of creepy. No, it was weird.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. Well, you were eating puss 17 times a day.

[Jake]

Well, no, Like, I would have my friend Brett drive me to get octopus all throughout the city of Los Angeles.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, who has the best?

[Jake]

First of all, angelini.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, I love their octopus. It's insane. Over the arugula? Yes.

[Jake]

With the lemon.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Jake]

Like, don't play with Angelina.

[Benny Blanco]

Of course.

[Jake]

Yeah. It's amazing. Do you cook octopus ever?

[Benny Blanco]

I love cooking octopus.

[Jake]

Do you really?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. I want to cook it for you and you rate it.

[Jake]

Will you really?

[Benny Blanco]

Of course.

[Jake]

How long have you cooked for?

[Benny Blanco]

Wow. Will you be my best friend?

[Jake]

Yes.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Okay. Okay.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

So go back. Okay, so you're posing 17 times a day like a psycho.

[Jake]

Yes. And then I started doing these, like, Skits, like, they were like improv skits. And, like, that really just took me off.

[Benny Blanco]

People liked it.

[Jake]

People loved for, like.

[Benny Blanco]

And it was like, like, two months. They lied.

[Jake]

Well, I think I had to, like, dial down on them a little bit so I wouldn't, like, overplay the bit.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

But, like, that's what brought me essentially here.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, and then when did you start a podcast?

[Jake]

A year ago. Okay, a little over a year ago.

[Benny Blanco]

And. And what were you doing? Were you always interviewing people like me? Like, what were you doing? I don't even know what I am. Were you always, like, interviewing people?

[Jake]

Like, yeah, like. Well, it started with my best friends, and then I had Tate McCray on, and then I had Renee Rap on, and that kind of, like, opened up the floodgates other people to come on.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, so you were just, like, doing it with your friends?

[Jake]

At first.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, cool.

[Jake]

And then it just became therapists.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, and where are you from?

[Jake]

New York.

[Benny Blanco]

Wait, it's called therapists? Benny, I don't know anything. I know nothing. I live under a full.

[Jake]

Understood. But what did you think you were coming to today?

[Benny Blanco]

I just saw you were great. And then I think for a while, a few people were trying to put us together and they, like, wanted us to do stuff and blah, blah, blah. And then. And then some. And then we got thrown on a text together. And then I. I was super gagged and excited. I'm excited. I'm still excited.

[Jake]

Me too.

[Benny Blanco]

And then, yeah, it just happened. And I was like, I just go with my gut. I always go with my gut. And I was like, this guy seems, like, so funny and cute, and I want to see what he's about. So therapist is amazing. And that says Puss University.

[Jake]

Yes. So Puss University started way before everything took off on TikTok. And I had merch that said university.

[Benny Blanco]

Who are you selling the merch to, though? You weren't even on TikTok.

[Jake]

I'm telling you, like, I sold it to people around my college.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, what college you go to?

[Jake]

Usc.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Where are you from?

[Jake]

New York.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, you're from New York. I thought you were from la.

[Jake]

No. Where are you from?

[Benny Blanco]

Virginia. But both my parents are from New York.

[Jake]

Where? New York.

[Benny Blanco]

Brooklyn. Queens. Where?

[Jake]

My mom's from Brooklyn.

[Benny Blanco]

Where are you from?

[Jake]

Washington Heights.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, you're from Washington.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

And then. And then how'd you get to la?

[Jake]

Well, I was born in la. And then.

[Benny Blanco]

Is this so boring? Are we like. Has anyone ever asked you this stuff on air?

[Jake]

I don't have. They Nolan, not this in depth.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Okay. We'll get over it.

[Jake]

No, I'm, like, happy to. I love talking about myself.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah?

[Jake]

Yeah. Like, you know. But I was gonna tell you that when I came back to LA for usc, the first song that came on the radio was Eastside, and that became my freshman year song.

[Benny Blanco]

Really?

[Jake]

Yes, because it reminded me of the East Coast.

[Benny Blanco]

How old are you?

[Jake]

Guess.

[Benny Blanco]

27.

[Jake]

Cool. So I'm 25. Oh, how old are you?

[Benny Blanco]

37.

[Jake]

Really?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. I'm old as mold. Okay. Do you want me to tell you? You want me to show you how old I am?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. In 2008, how old were you?

[Jake]

Eight.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. I had, like, number one songs on the radio when you were eight years old.

[Jake]

Like, what songs?

[Benny Blanco]

Like, okay, you want me to give you. You want me to give you your. Your summer.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

2008. Your summer of 2009. Summer of 2010.

[Jake]

Go.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Katy Perry, I Kissed a Girl. Katy Perry, Hot and Cold. Katy Perry, California Girls. Katy Perry, Teenage Dream. Kesha, TikTok. Kesha. Your Love Is My drug, Kesha. We are who we are. Kesha. Blow. Wait, I'm thinking of those years. Britney Spears, Circus.

[Jake]

You did Circus. I love Circus.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, wait, we're just going through your. We're just going through those few years.

[Jake]

Okay, okay, we have.

[Benny Blanco]

We have. What else do we have in that era? We have, like, all the Maroon 5 stuff. Then we have. Oh, then we have, like, Rihanna, Diamonds, all that stuff. That was a little late. That was 2000.

[Jake]

Did you do moves like Jagger?

[Benny Blanco]

I did.

[Jake]

Okay, so I have really bad ocd. And one time I heard that song, and I had really bad luck for the rest of the day. I haven't listened to it since.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, I did that to you. You know I do. You know I have insane ocd.

[Jake]

What's your ocd?

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, my God. It's insane.

[Jake]

Mine's really bad, too.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, tell me some of your stuff, and I'll tell you some mine.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

Mine are insane. Insane. I also have ticks, too, dude.

[Jake]

I. A little. Yeah, I used to.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, my God.

[Jake]

I used to cluck.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, what's cluck?

[Jake]

Like, I would count to two, and when I would count to two, like, I would have to, like, cluck my mouth.

[Benny Blanco]

Show me.

[Jake]

Can't. I'll.

[Benny Blanco]

You'll start doing it again? Yeah, don't do it. Don't do it.

[Jake]

Should I.

[Benny Blanco]

You can. Let me see.

[Jake]

Okay, so, like, this is, like, exposure therapy.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

So I would go like, oh, that one's not bad. I thought you were gonna be like.

[Jake]

I would do it again and again and again. And then I would look in the mirror 10 times before going bed. I would have to.

[Benny Blanco]

That's just because you're vain, though. That's not.

[Jake]

No, I know, but I would have to go, like. And I would have to smile. I would have to end it on a smile.

[Benny Blanco]

Of course.

[Jake]

I used to not be able to add songs to a playlist. I would have to add, remove, add, remove, add, remove, add, remove.

[Benny Blanco]

Get it on. Oh, after four. You could do it. Okay.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. What else?

[Jake]

I used to pray every time I cursed. I'm Jewish, so that was really random.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Used to pray. What type of prayer?

[Jake]

I would go, like, every time I cursed.

[Benny Blanco]

What would you say?

[Jake]

Like, I would mumble. Like, I would speak in tongues.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. And then, like, I just know Hebrew.

[Jake]

It was Christian. Like, I would literally go Christian.

[Benny Blanco]

That's fire. I love that. So. So you want to know some of mine?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Okay, so. And I still have some. So. Okay, first we'll go to, like, my old ones that were insane.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

Like, when I was a kid, I used to have this thing kind of like yours, where I had to go like this.

[Jake]

I had to go, wait, I used to do that?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, I had to do it in class. And if I didn't do it, my parents were gonna die. Like, And I was.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

And I would be like. And I would go like this. I'd be like. I'd be like, okay, try to last 10 seconds. And I'd be like, 10, nine. No, I can't. And I. Like. And then, like. And then I would. I would have this thing where for some reason, I would have to go. And we use it for Dave. Actually, for some reason, I had this thing where. Where I would always have to go, like. Like, all the time. I have no idea why I don't do that one anymore. But I still do a thing. And you'll notice I do, like, two or three things that I still can't get rid of. Like, there's, like, four where I go, like, like a million times a day. Like, I'm just going like this. Like, I'm, like, doing it. Like, if you notice in this interview, I'll do it a million times, then I have one where I go or I go. I'm like. I'm like. I can't even do it. You'll hear it. Yeah, I'm like. I'm like, I can't. It's like a little, like, fake cough, and I have no Idea. It's involuntary. I do it, like, 400 times a day, maybe more.

[Jake]

Do people get annoyed?

[Benny Blanco]

People they don't know. People don't notice them until I tell them. Most of these, like, oh, okay, well.

[Jake]

Everyone noticed my clucking.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. Oh, really?

[Jake]

Everyone was like, stop clucking.

[Benny Blanco]

Maybe people do. And now I'm just like, no, they would tell you, I have, like, a bad now. So, like, people don't care. And then I. I used to have one where. Oh, I still have this one. I can't even do it. It's so hard for me to do. But, like, I do this thing when I walk where I'm like. And, like, my arm, like, I have to, like, stretch it out. I don't even. I don't even know how I get it. I don't know how to do it. It's insane.

[Jake]

Is it still superstitious? Like, do you still have to do it because, like, bad things will happen?

[Benny Blanco]

Not those. Those are involuntary.

[Jake]

Oh, wow.

[Benny Blanco]

Voluntary. And if I notice them, I can, like, stop it for a second. But they're kind of, like, involuntary. And, like, the nose, stuff like this. Like, you'll see me do it, like, a million times, literally, when we're shooting shows or, like, videos and stuff. That's the hardest thing for me, above the acting and everything is holding it back long enough for the takes.

[Jake]

And then you have to go do it.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, and then I do it immediately. Sometimes I do it in takes. And they have to, like, see, and they have to. They have to take it out. Like, they have to, like, do another take. They're like. Like, Dave's like, Ben. He's like, benny, you're like, you. You gotta stop touching your face.

[Jake]

No, but that's what makes you. You.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, And I can do it, like, for a little. Like, when I go up and I, like, do, like, an inner. Like, if I do, like, I can't stop if I'm in, like, a podcast, because it'd be, like, insane. Like, I just have to do it. Like, I'm gonna do it right now. Like, it's like, you'll see. I'm gonna do it so much.

[Jake]

And I get it. I get it. I used to touch things evenly.

[Benny Blanco]

Like, oh, my God, my. I have to, like. Like, I'm better now. Like, I had to be, like, living with, like, girlfriends as I got older. Like, the old me would have stood up while we're talking, just not say it and turn your Celsius towards me. Like, that's what I would have done. Like, yeah. And now it's, like, off, and it's not centered, like, in the thing. And that's what I would have done, but now I don't have that anymore.

[Jake]

Right. Are you on meds?

[Benny Blanco]

No, I just, like.

[Jake]

You just got rid of it?

[Benny Blanco]

I got rid of, like, all the things that are really annoying to another person. Like, I got rid of, like, all of those things because I was like, I can't live like this. Right. Like, and I still do little things, like, in my. If you go into my, like, shower, like, everything is facing forward and stuff.

[Jake]

Totally.

[Benny Blanco]

I think that's insane. Regardless of ocd. I think that's insane when you go to, like, a person's thing and, like, the cap is, like, off. Things are like this in the show.

[Jake]

I agree.

[Benny Blanco]

Crazy, right?

[Jake]

I agree.

[Benny Blanco]

I agree. That's not even ocd. You're, like, a serial killer.

[Jake]

No, I agree.

[Benny Blanco]

That yours. Like that. Yeah. You're insane.

[Jake]

That's.

[Benny Blanco]

What's her name again? Manny. Manny anyone? Are you dating anyone now? No, Manny's not dating anyone. And I think that's the reason why, like, almost positive that might be the reason. Are you dating someone? No. Do you keep them straight? Very, very straight. Okay. I don't know. Maybe you're just. Maybe you're just defective. No. Do you keep yours straight?

[Jake]

Like, no.

[Benny Blanco]

Are you dating anyone?

[Jake]

Like, I'm seeing multiple people.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, you're, like, cool.

[Jake]

No, I'm just, like, having my summer.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Okay. You're seeing multiple people, and then when do you decide? When do you, like, hone in on someone?

[Jake]

Well, there's one that actually likes me, and then there's one that literally wants nothing to do.

[Benny Blanco]

Most of them hate you. And you, like the ones that hate you?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. Of course.

[Jake]

I can't control it.

[Benny Blanco]

No, it's because you're so young.

[Jake]

Okay?

[Benny Blanco]

It is it, like, you start to figure out your shit. Like, later. Later in life, you really figure out your shit. Like, it took me so long to really figure out my shit.

[Jake]

How? Like, when did you feel like you figured out your shit?

[Benny Blanco]

When I was, like, 34.

[Jake]

What?

[Benny Blanco]

You're, like, 34 is when I was.

[Jake]

There, like, an event that caused you to.

[Benny Blanco]

Like, I literally was sitting in my house, and I was like, I can't be, like, one of these celebrities that's, like, 40 or 50. And, like, at the club, like, that's crazy. I was literally thinking that. I was like, I can't be one of the. And we all know, like, in your head, they just popped into Your head, like, you know, three of them off sleep at. Yeah. One, two, three. Okay, I can do it three more. But I. But I'm not even gonna.

[Jake]

Should we. One more? It.

[Benny Blanco]

I don't know if we're gonna do it, so I don't want to it up. Do you think we will?

[Jake]

I think we will.

[Benny Blanco]

Is it a musician?

[Jake]

No.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh. Who is your. I think I know who your second one is. One, two, three. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's insane. I knew. I want to go for third.

[Jake]

I don't want to go for three. I'm happy.

[Benny Blanco]

Would say, wow. Oh, are we, like, siblings?

[Jake]

We're like, simpatico.

[Benny Blanco]

That was crazy.

[Jake]

I knew we would get it. I knew once you said musician, I was like, o. And then you said, wait, I think I know. And I like.

[Benny Blanco]

And there's two musicians I think you're thinking of, but we're not even going to do it.

[Jake]

I don't think I'm thinking of that.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. I don't want to do it then. I don't want to do it. Please. Okay. That's insane.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

That was so cool. So I was like. I was like. It was like, a mixture of that, and it was. I always wanted to find, like, my person. I always wanted to find my. I've always been, like, a relationship guy. And, like, obviously, when I'm single, I've had, like, my summer, you know, even if it's winter. And. And I. I was sitting there and I was like, I want, like, my other half. Like, I want to find, like, an equal and someone who, like, inspires the out of me.

[Jake]

Right.

[Benny Blanco]

And I remember I, like, talked to my therapist, and I was like, what do I do? And he was like, you gotta make a list. He's like, you have to make a list.

[Jake]

A list?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. The first thing he said is. He said, you have to cut off every other person in your life. There is no, like, dating around. You're cutting everyone off.

[Jake]

What?

[Benny Blanco]

That you know is bad for you.

[Jake]

But how do you know if they're bad for you?

[Benny Blanco]

You know? Okay, you know what's bad for you? Okay, you know what's bad for you and you know what's right for you, and you're thinking about what's bad for you, but you don't want to cut it off. Yeah. Because you're 26.

[Jake]

I'm seeing him tonight.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, you're 25. It doesn't matter. Nothing matters for the next 10 years. Like, nothing you do matters at all. You can do Anything you want.

[Jake]

What do you mean? Are you serious? That's the best news I've ever heard.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. Cuz it's like nothing matters. It nothing matters until you're like, nobody cares about what you're doing in your life till you're like 30. When you're 30, they're like, hey, what are you doing? Like, what? But when you're like 28 and you're like, yeah. You're like, I just went on like a bender and I was like. And everyone's like, oh, yeah, you're 28, cool.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

And then you're 29. And they're like, hey, you should like start 30 thinking about it. And then you're 30. And they're like, whoa. Like, honestly, 29th, 20 30th birthday, your life just changes. And everyone's like, you're disgusting. Like, yeah, yeah, basically.

[Jake]

Are you serious? I had someone sit here and tell me that the 30s are the best years.

[Benny Blanco]

No, they are the best years, but like, you have to like, pull your life together. But you have so much longer.

[Jake]

Five years.

[Benny Blanco]

I thought you were 27. You're 25?

[Jake]

I can't believe you thought I was 27.

[Benny Blanco]

I don't know, you're just very mature.

[Jake]

Oh, thank you.

[Benny Blanco]

Gotcha, Gotcha.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. So then I made a list and I had all these things on my list, and they're the most simple, dumb things, but they're just true. Like, I needed someone for me, it was like age appropriate. Okay. And I was like 30 and above. No one lower.

[Jake]

Got it.

[Benny Blanco]

Like, no one. Like, even if they're like a mature 28 year old, no has to be 30 and above. And that was like my hard thing. And then I wanted someone who was kind. I know. It's so crazy because it's so hard to find. Like, you're like thinking about the bad one. They're not even kind. The bad one's not even kind to you, right? They're like, they like give you one crumb of something nice and you're like, really? Yeah, yeah. Like, like, okay. Kind, Caring. Caring. Like, it's like you're just like barely caring.

[Jake]

He's like, I don't think mine knows my last name.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're just like, they're like never opening up a door for you or like being like, no, I wanted someone. I wanted someone who, like, was interested in something, like, had their own thing. I don't care if they, like, if they, like, you know, made carpets. Like, I want them to be like, this Is all I do. I make a carpet every day, then I care about it. And I make zero. I don't care what it is. I just wanted them to be interested and passionate about something in their life. Like, working towards a goal.

[Jake]

Right.

[Benny Blanco]

You know, not just, like, being like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And. And. And I wanted someone. I wanted someone who woke up. Like, I wake up and I'm happy. Like, I wake up happy. I know. Do you wake up sad?

[Jake]

I wake up angry.

[Benny Blanco]

Tell me.

[Jake]

Well, today I woke up, and I was so excited that you were coming, and I had a workout planned, and so I woke up really happy today.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

But, like, most of the time in college, I used to wake up going like this every morning. Really? Every single morning? Why? I don't know. I was like, I can't believe I have to live another day.

[Benny Blanco]

No, I know, but you're so cute.

[Jake]

I know.

[Benny Blanco]

Why? Why?

[Jake]

I was just like. No, I was just like, oh. I, like, loved. It was like, oh, my God. I can't believe I have to, like, go through the motions of today.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, you're, like. You're, like, too big for life. Like.

[Jake]

No, it was. It was. It was just like, I know I'm gonna be anxious and, like, I just can't be bothered.

[Benny Blanco]

And how do you feel now? Are you, like, not now, but, like, in life now. Are you, like, falling into it a little more or.

[Jake]

A little. I have periods where I'm, like, I'm so with it. I'm so in it. And then I have periods where I'm like, what the do I do?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, but everyone has that.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Just so you're aware that never goes away.

[Jake]

Okay, cool.

[Benny Blanco]

Like, I wake up. I wake up and I'm, like, happy in the day. But, like, sometimes I'm just like, what am I doing? Like, why am I.

[Jake]

What you. I feel like you have such a clear cut.

[Benny Blanco]

No, I know. I have, like, a sense of self. But, like, every single person, like, anybody who is lying, if they. If they're. If they're not saying that, like, of course it's. Sometimes you're just like. Like, I'll tell you this. Every musician has this same thing where I'll have the biggest song in the world. Like, the actual biggest song in the world, and I'm like, oh, I'm never gonna be able to do this again. Like, this is never gonna happen again.

[Jake]

Right?

[Benny Blanco]

Like, it's never. It. I'll never, like, get another, like, song that people care about again. And it's always, like, when they're like, celebrating how good you're doing, right? Or, like, you win a Grammy and they're like, oh, that's never happening.

[Jake]

Right? Yeah, it's just impending June.

[Benny Blanco]

June. Yeah, do June.

[Jake]

Well, it's Dune.

[Benny Blanco]

It's Dune. I've actually never seen that.

[Jake]

Neither have I.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Okay.

[Jake]

You want to watch together?

[Benny Blanco]

Is it good? I've heard it is good.

[Jake]

The second one's good.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. I haven't seen, like, I'm like, I'm such a bad pop culture person.

[Jake]

It's crazy because you're very involved in pop culture.

[Benny Blanco]

I also never look at any interview I do, and I never look at any, like, photos I do or anything. Like, so, like, after we do this, if there. I don't even know if there's an approval, but if there is, my manager looks at it and then I say, hey, did I say anything stupid? And he might be like, yeah, maybe this thing. What do you think? And then I'll be like, oh, okay. I never look at it. The only time I'll ever see it is if my mom sends me a clip, because my mother is tmz, so my. Yeah, yeah, My mother's full tmz. Oh, my God. I didn't know you. You, like, broke up with Selena and, like, murdered 16 people. And I'm like, what? And she's like, that's what it said today on tv. And I'm like, what? Like, yeah, like, she.

[Jake]

She's. She's a Jewish mom.

[Benny Blanco]

My mother is full blown, and she says, like, the. Like. Like, whatever is the thing that, like, could make you feel, like, the worst at the time. And then she's like, what, honey? Like. And I'm like. Like, she actually. She's like. She literally called me and she's like. She's like, you know, every time I open people, there's another thing about you. And I don't know if it's true. I don't know if it's false. I don't.

[Jake]

You don't talk to me?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, I talk to my mom so much.

[Jake]

Really?

[Benny Blanco]

And my mom. Yeah, I talked to my mom so much, and she'll be like, we never talk. And I'm like, like, mom, I spoke to you 15 minutes ago, right? Like, if I went. If I, like, didn't speak to my mother for, like, a day and a half, there would be, like, actual, like, search parties. There would be, like. Like, SWAT would be, like, breaking through the ceiling right now and just, like, grabbing me and taking me away. And like, I. I talk to, like, some of my friends. And I'll be like, oh, you talk to your mom a lot? And they're like, yeah, yeah, we talk. And I'm like, oh, how often? They're like, oh, I talked to her like a month ago. I'm like, a month?

[Jake]

A month? That's crazy.

[Benny Blanco]

How often do you talk to your mom?

[Jake]

Like, once every few days.

[Benny Blanco]

What about your dad?

[Jake]

Every day.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, really?

[Jake]

Every. Well, my dad texts me every single day. Text me every single night. Good night. Love you.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, really?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, wow.

[Jake]

And. Or he'll text me. You good?

[Benny Blanco]

I don't. I don't talk. You good?

[Jake]

Yeah. Like, can you give me my phone? I need to read you some. My text with my dad. Because sometimes I just don't respond.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, my dad's are my dad. My me. I don't. We don't text a lot.

[Jake]

Really?

[Benny Blanco]

No, no, no. Maybe once.

[Jake]

You.

[Benny Blanco]

Once every few months or so.

[Jake]

Once?

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, wow. Yeah.

[Jake]

So, like, these are like, some examples of text with my dad.

[Benny Blanco]

Mom could send me 300 texts in a row without me answering. And then the second I answer, there's no, like. There's no, like, where have you been? Like, she just keeps going. My mom sends, like, articles. And then today's show was great.

[Jake]

Love you. You good? You okay?

[Benny Blanco]

How come you're not answering?

[Jake]

Because I was busy. I called him.

[Benny Blanco]

Are you really busy?

[Jake]

I just, like, I'm really bad at my phone. You're good at your phone?

[Benny Blanco]

I'm so bad at my phone.

[Jake]

Oh, okay, never mind. Just. Maybe with me.

[Benny Blanco]

No, it just happened. What are you talking about? I just looked at the thing. I felt bad because I never answered you.

[Jake]

Oh, okay. Well, that was the first text and I thought you thought it was a fake number.

[Benny Blanco]

I actually haven't saved your number. Let me. Let me do it right now.

[Jake]

Okay, I saved your number really quick.

[Benny Blanco]

I'm gonna do it right now. Watch where. This one's your. Huh. Okay, I'm back. Have you ever been in a relationship?

[Jake]

Never.

[Benny Blanco]

Really?

[Jake]

Never. And I talk about it at least once an episode.

[Benny Blanco]

Why? Why haven't you been in one? I.

[Jake]

You know, I was actually speaking about this last night. I have never been on more than three dates with someone.

[Benny Blanco]

When did you know you were gay?

[Jake]

I was actually also thinking about that today when I was 10.

[Benny Blanco]

But when were you, like, see, cuz, like, where we grew up, like, my friends who were gay, like, said they would, like, they were, like, trying to be straight and they would, like, watch porn, but then they would be like, wait, the part with like, the dude is so tight. And they wouldn't watch. They wouldn't watch gay porn. Cuz they were like, that's like too crazy.

[Jake]

But they graduated to gay porn.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, yeah. Who's your gay awakening?

[Jake]

I think it was James from Big Time Rush.

[Benny Blanco]

I don't know who they are.

[Jake]

You know Big Time Rush?

[Benny Blanco]

No, I don't, but I don't think that's crazy. I've never even heard the name Big Time Rush.

[Jake]

Really?

[Benny Blanco]

No. Have you?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, it's like Nickelodeon. Oh, okay. But I didn't know who the Jonas Brothers were until Sucker Me.

[Jake]

Are you kidding?

[Benny Blanco]

Like, I'd heard the name. I had never heard a Jonas Brothers song until Sucker. You didn't hear sos I never heard that song.

[Jake]

You're 3000 don't know that song. Nothing.

[Benny Blanco]

I'm older.

[Jake]

You're in music.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, but I'm older than you. Like those. That wasn't big. Like, I had never seen Selena show until we started dating. And then we were Wizards or only murders. Wizards.

[Jake]

Got it.

[Benny Blanco]

I'd never seen Wizards. I knew she was like a kids star, but I had never seen any of it. And we were going to. She was like, going to be on the reboot of it. And I was like, hey, can I see your show before we go to the reboot? So, like, I know what it is.

[Jake]

And she was like, what?

[Benny Blanco]

And she was like, I guess. And then like, we. And then we watched the first episode and I was like, this is so cute. And then she was like, wait, let me show you just like one more good scene. And she showed me one.

[Jake]

She was like, it really is the best show ever.

[Benny Blanco]

Showed me a few good scenes. And I was like, okay, I get it.

[Jake]

No, it's also. The theme song is iconic.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, of course.

[Jake]

Well, you wouldn't.

[Benny Blanco]

No, no, I know the theme song because that inspired Bad Guy by Billy Eilish.

[Jake]

Did it really?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Jake]

Have you ever worked with Billy Eilish?

[Benny Blanco]

I have. I worked with her when she was like, legit. Like 14 years old or something.

[Jake]

Did the song ever See the Light of Day?

[Benny Blanco]

No, no, no.

[Jake]

She.

[Benny Blanco]

I. We had. We have the same lawyer or we. Or we did have the same lawyer or whatever. And he was like, there's this kid, Phineas, who's really good, and he. And he works with his little sister. And, you know, we rep them and we think, like, they could be something. And then they had just signed. They just signed to Interscope after that. And then I was like, oh, I really like this song. And. And they hadn't ever played a concert or anything, and they were like, oh, come over. And I invited them over to work at my house, like, before, like, anything. And then literally, like a week or so later, we went to their first concert ever at. I think it was at the Echo or something. And there was, like, a hundred kids there and like, half of them were from the label. And then I went to her second. I think her second show was the El Ray. And I went to that. I went to, like, her first, like, eight shows. And. Yeah, and just saw it all happen from the beginning. And they do. They don't. They don't need my help at all. They do, like, everything their own, and it's, like, incredible. And they always do everything, just the two of them, right? And. And it was fun to just work and see how they work. And obviously me and Finneas have made, like, a million songs for other people and stuff. And Finis is incredible. Has he been on the Pod?

[Jake]

Yes.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, he's. He's so sweet.

[Jake]

Yes, he has been on the Pod.

[Benny Blanco]

He's the best. He's so funny.

[Jake]

He's awesome.

[Benny Blanco]

He's so fun. Has Billy been on?

[Jake]

No. I wish.

[Benny Blanco]

Billy, what are you doing? Probably get on Therapus. I know the name now.

[Jake]

I know.

[Benny Blanco]

I have so many guys for you. Like, wait, do you really? So many, it's insane. Okay, we can. We'll sidebar this after, but I'm, like.

[Jake]

Not gonna, like, let go of this.

[Benny Blanco]

No, no. I have, like, so many great guys. Are you, like, good in a relationship? You've never even been.

[Jake]

I've never been.

[Benny Blanco]

I don't know. Are you just, like. Are you just, like, a piece of.

[Jake]

Probably.

[Benny Blanco]

Really?

[Jake]

I mean, like, look, I really need to work on being less selfish.

[Benny Blanco]

I was just gonna say, are you so. Are you selfish?

[Jake]

Like, you wouldn't believe.

[Benny Blanco]

Really?

[Jake]

Payton has my. My best friend, my roommate, Pee, and has told me the same thing over and over again for two weeks. I literally acted like yesterday was the first time I ever heard it.

[Benny Blanco]

Really?

[Jake]

I didn't know.

[Benny Blanco]

What are your positive attributes?

[Jake]

I would say that I'm clever. I would say that I am passionate.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

I think you're incredibly generous. Oh, my God. I've never heard that before. I was literally just going to say that. And that's two for two. I guess I'm generous.

[Benny Blanco]

Just generous. Okay, so you're generous and you're clever. Okay. What are you looking for? Someone, just, like, anyone with a heartbeat, kind of.

[Jake]

And, like, you know, I'd like them to have, like, a throbbing study job.

[Benny Blanco]

Like a heartbeat and a throbbing wiener.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

A top. Like someone who will.

[Benny Blanco]

Are you verse?

[Jake]

No, I'm five three, so.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, perfect.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

So we can. We can work he a top or.

[Benny Blanco]

You have to be verse, though, now.

[Jake]

What is he verse? That guy that you showed me?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. Everyone is in. It's 2000. What year is it?

[Jake]

25.

[Benny Blanco]

2025. You know, I never know the year, ever. I'm always, like, one or two wrong. It's always like, is it 24? Is it 26?

[Jake]

Have you ever gotten that wrong, like, publicly?

[Benny Blanco]

I mean, when. No, I just get it wrong, like, once a year when you have to, like, write on, like, a physical or something.

[Jake]

Did you go to college?

[Benny Blanco]

No.

[Jake]

Do you go to high school?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, like, yeah.

[Jake]

Do you graduate high school?

[Benny Blanco]

Yes.

[Jake]

Okay, and then you just moved out to la?

[Benny Blanco]

No, I lived in New York for years.

[Jake]

Huh. Where?

[Benny Blanco]

All over, everywhere.

[Jake]

Like, where?

[Benny Blanco]

Brooklyn, Heights, Bed Stuy, Williamsburg, Chelsea, West Village, everywhere.

[Jake]

What was, like, the first person you worked with that was, like, like, successful?

[Benny Blanco]

Like, the first, like, person like, that would be successful, like, in your. In your world?

[Jake]

No. Anything?

[Benny Blanco]

Well, like, I know a lot.

[Jake]

I know a lot about me.

[Benny Blanco]

Old rappers, but, like, the first, like, big pop thing that I ever worked on was Britney Spears. What do you know? Sometimes I am in a restaurant, and I'm like, oh, my God, this song's so good. And I shazam it. And then it's my own song.

[Jake]

Like, how do you not know?

[Benny Blanco]

I'm old, and I've done. I can't remember anything. And I've done, like, hundreds of songs that have come out. That's like, I've done some. I've been making songs for, like, 16 years.

[Jake]

I. Yeah, I guess you're right.

[Benny Blanco]

And I'm. And I'm old. Do you remember every single podcast, every word you said on?

[Jake]

Well, not every word, but, like, I guess. I guess you have a point.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, it's like. It's like if you're. Let's say you're on your, like, 16th season of your podcast, right? Someone's like, did you interview, like, Chelsea Handler? And you're like, I think. Think so?

[Jake]

Oh, I guess you're right.

[Benny Blanco]

You know what I'm saying? Like, you. How many seasons is this?

[Jake]

2. It's my second season.

[Benny Blanco]

It's your second season. Wow. And everyone's talking about the pod.

[Jake]

Really?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Jake]

Are you serious? You know, I make music.

[Benny Blanco]

You do?

[Jake]

I have an album.

[Benny Blanco]

Is it good or.

[Jake]

No, it's it's called Puss and Poems.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Is it terrible?

[Jake]

No, it's really good. You know Alexander, 23? Yeah, he produced it.

[Benny Blanco]

Should we do a song for your.

[Jake]

Album, Benny, Don't Play With Me.

[Benny Blanco]

Would it be crazy? What do. Do you sing on it?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Is it good?

[Jake]

It's fairly awesome.

[Benny Blanco]

What do you guys think? Good. Should I play it?

[Jake]

No. Hold on, hold on. So I'm going to read you the track list. I'm going to read you the track list and you can tell me which one you want to hear, okay?

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

Okay. So it's called Puss in Poems, the album.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

Denim on Denim, Pharmacist, the hangover song, Postmates, JetBlue, therapist theme song.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, it's a tie between three. Denim on denim, Postmates, and Therapist theme song.

[Jake]

Okay, so therapist theme song is the one I had, like, my least fingers in because, like, that was Alexander's like.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, let's not do. Let's not do that.

[Jake]

So it was. What were the Denim on Denim or Postmates? Okay, so I'm gonna give you the rundown. Denim on Denim is like a country pop vibe about a bad date. I went on.

[Benny Blanco]

Play it.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

Is this your most successful song?

[Jake]

Okay, but it's. Postmates is a ballad. Postmates is a ballad.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, I want to hear Denim on Denim.

[Jake]

Postmates is really good. Okay, do you want to hear Postmates now?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. Play me Postmates. Was it worth it? I knew it. Was it?

[Jake]

Imagine my shock when I looked at my phone and I looked at the clock. You were so far from home. Driver, oh, driver, why'd you do a chin? My stomach is screaming.

[Benny Blanco]

This poem is for you.

[Jake]

To the one who stole my postmates Was the bite worth the thrill? To the one who stole my butt's taste Was the rush worth the kill?

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, how much longer you want to fast forward to it? Okay.

[Jake]

It's you that I. Driver, oh, driver, Are you riding a bike? I'm a postmate survivor going hungry tonight. To the one who stole my postmates with the bite worth the thrill. To the one who is st my butt's taste Was the rush worth the kami.

[Benny Blanco]

Dinner?

[Jake]

You'd have cry to the one so that's Postmates.

[Benny Blanco]

I like that one.

[Jake]

It's good, right?

[Benny Blanco]

I like that we're seeing each other.

[Jake]

I know. Did you hate my album or.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, no, I. I actually really think it's very cute.

[Jake]

Okay, well, you know, I do have a Christmas song as well, even though I'm Jewish.

[Benny Blanco]

You do?

[Jake]

It's called Santa, can you pay for me? I forgot my card. I haven't released it yet, though. I'm finishing it up next week in the studio.

[Benny Blanco]

With who?

[Jake]

Alexander.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, he does exclusive all your music.

[Jake]

Well, I just. Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Would I be able to get it?

[Jake]

Yeah, like, do you want to get involved?

[Benny Blanco]

I'd like to get involved.

[Jake]

Do you actually want to.

[Benny Blanco]

I'm saying it.

[Jake]

Okay. You around next week?

[Benny Blanco]

No, but I'm around, like, just automatically around next week.

[Jake]

Okay. So do you actually want to make a song?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Jake]

Okay. What would you want to write about?

[Benny Blanco]

Ocd.

[Jake]

Oh, I would love that, maybe. Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

You falling in love.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

You being selfish.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

Are you just gonna say okay?

[Jake]

No, I, I agree. Like, I, I. But it has to be, like, a niche situation to make it fun.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. We'll figure it out.

[Jake]

Well, I mean, you're the master. I trust you.

[Benny Blanco]

No, you're the master.

[Jake]

Oh, okay. I. I guess.

[Benny Blanco]

This is crazy. Okay, wait, so how many. So how many episodes have you done?

[Jake]

Completely, like, totally, like, without that aren't out completely yet?

[Benny Blanco]

No, no, no. Oh, Are you, like, way ahead? How many ahead? Nine. That's it? Yeah.

[Jake]

That's two and a half months.

[Benny Blanco]

What was, like, the closest. Where you were, like, did you get someone, like, last minute or something?

[Jake]

That's never. Oh, the closest turnaround we've ever had is we did Tate, the first Tate McRae episode. She was my first guest ever. We did it on a Sunday and released it on the Wednesday. That's the closest turnaround we've ever had.

[Benny Blanco]

And did you never. Did you never even. Like, how many did you start with? Like, did you have, like, a bunch in the can when you started or.

[Jake]

No, like, we would just do it.

[Benny Blanco]

And not do them every week?

[Jake]

Well, like, the other week I recorded five.

[Benny Blanco]

No, like, how, like, does one come out every week?

[Jake]

Yeah, every Wednesday, 7:00pm Pacific.

[Benny Blanco]

How many do. How long are you gonna do it for? Forever.

[Jake]

I don't know. I want to turn it into a late night talk show.

[Benny Blanco]

That's really cool.

[Jake]

Do you think that's cool?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, I guess. Yeah. What do you want to do? Like, what are the things? What do you want to do? Give me your top things you want to do in life.

[Jake]

I want to be an actor.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Have you acted in things?

[Jake]

Yes. So I'm in a few scenes in the newest season of Hacks.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Was, Was that, like, were you so stoked?

[Jake]

Yeah, it was my favorite show.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

So super excited about that. I'm actually finding out about a role Today that I'm probably not going to get. But, you know, you live and you learn. But yeah, I want to be an actor. I want to be a late night host. And so like, when you were a.

[Benny Blanco]

Kid, were you like, I just want to be famous?

[Jake]

Yeah. Well, yes.

[Benny Blanco]

Really?

[Jake]

Like, I knew I would watch a bunch of reality television and I was like, I need that. Like, I need the paparazzi. Like, I need that.

[Benny Blanco]

No.

[Jake]

Yes. I was like 10. I was like, that's amazing. I want that.

[Benny Blanco]

It's the worst.

[Jake]

I wouldn't know yet. So hopefully I can also be like, it's the worst. But like, I'm not there yet.

[Benny Blanco]

I hate that stuff. Like, that's like, yeah, no, I know.

[Jake]

But you've been at it for so long.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Jake]

I know.

[Benny Blanco]

Because when we grew up, there wasn't there was that, like, there was. There wasn't social media when I grew up.

[Jake]

Right.

[Benny Blanco]

Like, when I grew up, there was no social media. MySpace, MySpace. That's how I got big.

[Jake]

Really?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. But MySpace didn't get big until I was like 13ish, 14. Like YouTube came out when I was a senior in high school. Like when, when, when you're friends. Like, no one had cell phones.

[Jake]

No one.

[Benny Blanco]

Like, literally when I was a kid, you would, you'd be like, it'd be like at school, you'd be like, yo, meet me at the park and we're going to play basketball at like 7p at like 6pm, right? And they'd be like, okay, cool. And then you'd go at 6pm and then like, sometimes your friend wouldn't be there and then you'd get home and you couldn't call them because it was too late to call a house phone. So it would be like 8:30 or 9. You can't call. It would be 9 and you can't call after 9. So then like, you'd have to wait until the next day and then you'd see your friend the next day and you'd be like, dude, why didn't you come and play basketball with me? They were like, oh, my mom wouldn't let me like that. And like, you would just have to.

[Jake]

That's it.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, you just have to like, wait. Oh my God, I track my friends. Yeah, there's no tracking.

[Jake]

So, like, I know when they've left their house to come meet me.

[Benny Blanco]

There's no tracking.

[Jake]

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[Benny Blanco]

So actually I have Cozy Earth as well.

[Jake]

And my roommate Sammy thought that I got new mattress toppers because of just how comfortable it was. Do you understand? Like a mattress topper like changes the game. So for someone to think that like the sheets are a new mattress topper is so insane. Reminder, July 11th to 13th, go to cozy earth.com and use code JAKE for, for 45 off your entire purchase. Thank you Cozy Earth for sponsoring tonight's episode.

[Benny Blanco]

Like when we used to have to like jerk off when we were a kid. Like, like, like, like how did, like how did you do it when you were a kid?

[Jake]

I would watch HBO sex scenes.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, we didn't have that Google. I don't even think Google existed.

[Jake]

So how did you jerk?

[Benny Blanco]

We had like, we had like Ask Jeeves was like a thing when it's like pre Google, it's crazy. I.

[Jake]

So did you look up porn on.

[Benny Blanco]

There like, okay, 56k dial up. Like, do you know what that is?

[Jake]

I've heard of it.

[Benny Blanco]

So literally, it would be like this. If. If I was on the computer and my mother picked up the phone, it would kick me off the computer because they shared the same thing.

[Jake]

How does that even work?

[Benny Blanco]

It's. You would do it through your. Like. And it would be like this. This is how you got on. It would be like. And that's like how you would get on the Internet. And then you would, like, go to a website and it would be like a description. It would be like, woman naked. And you'd be like. And then you'd be like, I guess I'll do that one. And you like it like, woman naked forest. And you'd, like, press a button and it would be like. And it would be like this. It would be like this. Okay. It would go to another screen, and it would take so long to go to that screen. And then we'll get to that screen. It was like. And it would be like. You'd be like. And you'd be like, trying to figure out what is. And like, finally, it would be like a woman naked. And she'd be like, jerking off to, like, one woman just naked. And you wouldn't even wait to the feet. You'd be like, it. And then like, we. I. We used to print the pictures out and. And then we'd print them out and. And you'd, like, staple them till you, like, made like a. And are like our. Our. They were. They were so grainy. By the time they got out, you'd be like. Like, you'd have to like to see it. And then all of a sudden, your. Your. Your computer would get like. This was back when, like, viruses existed.

[Jake]

Oh, yeah. Do you know, I know about viruses because one time I looked up gay porn and my mom and my dad had to pull me in and be like, you've given our computer a gay porn virus. They were like, and are you gay?

[Benny Blanco]

And you're like, what? No.

[Jake]

Yes. And I think I had to. I think I don't. And they were like, we're not mad about what you're looking at, but like, we have a virus from.

[Benny Blanco]

But we're not mad at what you're looking at. But you're gay.

[Jake]

Yeah. Like porn gave us a gay porn virus.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. Is it worse than a regular porn virus? Why did they have to say gay porn virus?

[Jake]

They were just like. They were like, we know what you've been looking at. Did you ever get caught Using dial up to look at inappropriate.

[Benny Blanco]

Not like we would like. Basically I had like a window of like 45 minutes before like my mother would get home and I would actually full speed run home to jerk off. Like I would, I would run for full speed like into my house and sometimes friends would come over. Cuz I was the house where like you could jerk. So like everyone, we'd like print out pictures and people would like be in a different room. Just like, like jerking. I don't know, you're so horny when you're a kid. When you're like 12.

[Jake]

But you were like, let's. How would you plan that? I feel like jerking off was such.

[Benny Blanco]

A private thing for me, not for us. And then, and then you'd be like, you'd. And I remember like back in the day, your computer could freeze, okay. And when it froze it would like, like it didn't just like freeze where you're like, oh, just like escape all quit or whatever, right? Control all delete. Like it's not like that your computer would actually freeze and it would just like freeze and you'd have to rip the cord out of the wall. Like when my parents were coming home, I'd be like, oh my God. And I'd like rip it out of the thing. And then like when you, when like so you would get these pop up viruses and it would be like boop. And it would like pop up.

[Jake]

Yeah, like porn.

[Benny Blanco]

And it'd be like, yeah, boop boop. And it'd be like, Jake's watching porn.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

And it's gay. And then like all of a sudden you'd get like a lot of them and it would be like doo, doo, doo, doo. And they'll be like, oh, okay. And then like there was my computer. You like turn my computer on. It would do like the turn on thing. And then we go like this would go. You couldn't even use the compute anymore. And when I was, when I was a kid, you couldn't just like fix it yourself. You couldn't just like Google how to fix it. You have to call a man. And a man would come over with a full briefcase and he'd be like, I'm here to look at the computer. And they'd have to pay a man like 50 bucks to come over behind your parents back. No, no, no, my parents. I'd be like, mom, something happened with the computer. I don't know what it is. And it would be like. Because it wouldn't say like porn. It would just be like so many pot, you couldn't even read them. They were like, yeah, a machine gun of like, of pop ups. And then like, they'd come and I'd be like, oh, mom, I'm really good with computers. I'll go like, talk to the guy. And like, I'd go talk to the guy and be like, dude, he'd be like, there's so much porn on this computer. And I'd be like, I'll do whatever you say, man. Just like, please don't tell my parents. And they'd be like, okay, we won't tell your parents. They, like fix it. And then like two weeks later, the same.

[Jake]

Would they get annoyed?

[Benny Blanco]

My parents?

[Jake]

No. The computer guy?

[Benny Blanco]

No, they're just like, porn. Like, it's just like. Or like illegally downloading songs. Like, because we would do it on like Napster and Kaza and stuff.

[Jake]

Got it.

[Benny Blanco]

And Limewire.

[Jake]

I was a lime. I used lime wire.

[Benny Blanco]

So we had Limewire to download porn. But it would take so long. It would take so long. And you'd have to like download porn like, like for 24 hours. And, and. And then like, you'd finally get at that point.

[Jake]

Is it worth it?

[Benny Blanco]

Yes. When you're a kid, is it worth it? He's shaking his. And you'd get it and sometimes it would be like porn. And you'd be like, yes. And then sometimes it would literally just be like, like static and be like, like the craziest noise. And you'd be like, like, I waited 24 hours for just like static.

[Jake]

So when, like this, when like social media evolved, like, were you guys like, oh, this is awesome for our porn intake?

[Benny Blanco]

I don't know, I can't even remember. Like, I just remember. I just remember I got big. Like, I got first discovered because of MySpace. Like, that was like social media for me. So, like, I used to like, just like hit up anyone who was like, of any relevance and be like, I make music. I just did this thing for the. And it'd be like the like, worst. I'd be like, did this for like someone's cousin's nephew. And like, I like. Then the credits started getting better and I like, I like started to get a bunch of friends on, like, like, it was like the first thing where you would get like, popular. That's like how you got popular on like MySpace. And I like, had like, lot of friend. Like, basically, like, I had like, I think I had like 15,000 friends on MySpace and like for like a lot of friends at that point. Like, that was like, hu. Like, there was like, the. The biggest person in the world. Well, this girl, Tila Tequila.

[Jake]

Oh, I watched A Shot at Double Shot at Love.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. So she. At that point, like, when I had like, 15,000, she had like, 500,000, and she was like, nobody was even close to. To her. And so, like, I had, like, 15. Like, I had by far, like, the most of, like, anyone near my area. And I don't even know why it. I was just, like, doing funny, and I would, like, write on, like, people's walls like crazy. And like, it was just like I. I was 13, right? And. And then. And then I, like, just, like, started, like, getting graduate gradually, like, more known. But, like, yeah, like, when Twitter came out, I remember I was like, what's Twitter? And I, like, didn't know any Tik tok. Same thing.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

My friend, literally, I was putting out my second album, and my friend was like, you got to use this thing called Tik Tok if you want your songs to be big. And I was like, what's Tik tok? And. And he was like, it's the thing, like, where everyone, like, dances on it. And I was like, well, I don't want to dance on it. And he was like, no, you don't have to just, like, go on and, like, just do stuff. He was like, there's, like, these things called trends, and they're doing some to, like, some of your, like, songs that are, like, older. And I was like, like, I don't know, man. I don't want to do this. And he was like, I'm gonna come over to your house and I'm gonna film you.

[Jake]

Huh?

[Benny Blanco]

And he, like, filmed three videos for me, and, like, I, like, post them, and they actually got 400 views. And I was like, dude, I'm not doing this ever again. 400 views. That's crazy. And, oh, I would have. And I went to bed, and then I woke up, and my friend was like, I told you. And I was like, what do you mean you told me? And he was like. And, like, one of my first videos got, like, 10 million.

[Jake]

Wow.

[Benny Blanco]

This was when TikTok was like, good feeling, Siv. Like, do you know, like, when it was like. And it was like. And I was like, oh, shit. And then, like, I posted another video and it, like, did nothing. And then, like, I posted, like, one more, and then it got, like, millions of views. And then all of a sudden, I had, like, 500,000 followers in, like, those were the days. In, like, three days.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

And then it was like, and then I was like, oh. And then my song started getting really big. And then. And then I like, really got the hang of it. And then I. Because I was like. I was like, in order to get the hang of this, I need to see it. So my friend came over one day and he showed me the for you page. Because I've never still to this day, I don't never use. I've never scrolled.

[Jake]

Benny. Like, my screen time is insane. Really, all I do scroll, scroll, scroll.

[Benny Blanco]

So, like, what are you gonna do? Like, break me down with what you did earlier today and what you're gonna, like, do after?

[Jake]

Really? I love talking about this. So I Woke up at 7am I woke up and my vet. My bed vibrates to wake me up.

[Benny Blanco]

What?

[Jake]

Yes. It's an eight sleep.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, yeah, I have one of those.

[Jake]

You really?

[Benny Blanco]

I took it off immediately. I hated, like, I hated the. It made me freezing all night.

[Jake]

But you can make it warm.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, no, I don't like that. Okay, well, I have two extra if you want one.

[Jake]

King size or queen size?

[Benny Blanco]

King and cow? King.

[Jake]

Okay. I might get a new. A king bed for my new room, so I actually might.

[Benny Blanco]

Do I want one?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

I literally have an extra one at my house.

[Jake]

Really? I swear, I. I would like that.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Maybe for a small price.

[Jake]

Okay, I'll pay.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

No, I got mine for free. You can. You can have it.

[Jake]

I got mine for free.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Okay. You. Yeah, you can have it.

[Jake]

Okay, cool. So basically I woke up and my bed. My bed vibrated to wake me up. Then I walked to get coffee, I listened to my music, and then I went to go work out at the Aloe Gym. Where you actually have a studio.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, I do have a studio.

[Jake]

You have a studio there?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Jake]

And you can use it whenever you want.

[Benny Blanco]

Really? Yeah.

[Jake]

Okay, cool. I got an IV in there once.

[Benny Blanco]

In the studio?

[Jake]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

[Benny Blanco]

What? What type of iv?

[Jake]

I don't know. I get an iv like once a week.

[Benny Blanco]

Really?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Why?

[Jake]

I'm addicted. Have you ever put Benadryl in an IV?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Jake]

Go stupid.

[Benny Blanco]

Do you guys get IVs? Does your mom know you get an IV?

[Jake]

My dad knows.

[Benny Blanco]

What's your dad think?

[Jake]

He thinks I'm like, it's healthy. He's like, okay.

[Benny Blanco]

God. That's it?

[Jake]

Yeah, it's healthy.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. He's like, Xanax healthy.

[Jake]

No, he's like, it's good.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, good.

[Jake]

So I worked out. I did cryotherapy, then I came home, shaved my entire chest.

[Benny Blanco]

Do you have to have a shaved chest to be gay. I think hair's back in. Do you shave your dick? Yeah.

[Jake]

I get it lasered off your dick? Yes.

[Benny Blanco]

You get your dick lasered?

[Jake]

Like, no, there's like, a little. But it's not like a bush.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. So it's just, like, manicured? Yeah, but, like, how little? Are we talking, like, your eyebrows or. Less? Is it like this.

[Jake]

Is it, like, mine right now? Yeah, it's bald.

[Benny Blanco]

That's crazy.

[Jake]

I know.

[Benny Blanco]

That's insane. I know this insane.

[Jake]

I know. I don't know. Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

Do you want a bald dick? No. Yeah. Are you gay or straight? Straight. Do you want a bald dick? Your dick's not bald. I already know. I can already. I know what your dick looks like. I know everything about, like. I know your dick already. I got the wax. I waxed my. And it. And first of all, the position they put you in.

[Jake]

Yes.

[Benny Blanco]

Insane.

[Jake]

I know.

[Benny Blanco]

Insane. You're like, legs are above your head. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, talking to the lady while she's doing it, and she's like, oh, my God. She's like. She was like, I saw Steely Dan last night and they were so good. While she's like. And she's like. She's talking to me like, about, like, about, like, 80s rock bands while she's like. But I will tell you, first of all, it does not hurt at all. It feels so good. The warmth. The warmth of the wax. Yeah. Yeah.

[Jake]

You do sugaring or wax?

[Benny Blanco]

I think she does a combination, I think. Or. Wow. I don't know what she does. She's like, very next level.

[Jake]

Okay. Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

I will tell you one thing. Okay. First of all, I've never been so clean down there. Like, it's like you're. It's almost like, too, like. Okay, so guys have hair in their tush because it, like, catches the sweat and stuff when you have. When you have. No, like, when you have no hair, it's like. I'm like. It's like a slip and slide. It gets like, so. It get. It does for girls, too, but then.

[Jake]

But then you have to. You just have to take care of yourself down there to make sure it doesn't end up like that.

[Benny Blanco]

No, no, no. But it's just like. It's just like, if you, like, go for. No, not wiping. Like. Oh, wiping is amazing. Oh, my God. Wiping is insane. I use a toto toilet anyways. Oh, you're a. I love getting, like, a day. An explosion of water up my like, there's nothing I love more than just, like, being, like, blasted. Like, I wish it was like. I wish it was like. Like. Like I would take a full machine gun of water up my. Yeah. Like, the harder the better.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

It feels so good.

[Jake]

I guess it kind of jars me. I've only done it twice.

[Benny Blanco]

I, like, sit on it and I'm like. I'm like. I, like. I'm, like, riding. Like, it's, like, amazing. Amazing. It's incredible. One time I was, like, in the doctor's office, and there was, like, a man and, like, a woman examining, like, my penis, like, in the off, like, just, like, doing, like, physical, like, checking around. And it might have been a dermatologist. I forget what it was. I think it was regular doctor. When they tell you cough and stuff, and the lady starts talking and she's like, oh, my God, I love when you did that. And she's, like, talking and then asked me for a picture while you're. No, no, afterwards. And I was just like, I can never come here again. Like, is that hipaa? I think that's, like, illegal, right?

[Jake]

Yeah, that's like.

[Benny Blanco]

It was like, like. And I was like, I. I've never been, like, more violated in my life. I never went back again.

[Jake]

And would. Did they. Was it, like, a physical? Like, were they, like, all up on you that whole exam?

[Benny Blanco]

I mean, the girl wasn't. She was just like, like, shadowing the doctor, or. I think she was, like, the doctor's assistant. I don't know what it was. I don't know. And she was there, and she was like. Starts talking to me, like. And she was just talking to me throughout the whole time, not just, like, when my pants were now. And then, like. And then she's like. They're like. The guy's, like, having me coughing. Like, my penis is just, like, out. And then, like. Yeah, then she, like, asked me for a picture, and I was like. And then I started thinking. I'm like, are all our doctors just, like, talking about, like, all our deepest, darkest secrets when they get home? Probably like, they're just like, oh, my God. They're like, Jake's like, yeah, huge.

[Jake]

They're, like, gaping, like. Well, one time my friend got a finger. Like, the. The. The doctor had to, like, stick a finger up his ass and he peed.

[Benny Blanco]

A good peer back.

[Jake]

I don't know. But he said, oh. And peed across the entire patient room. And the doctor said, it happens.

[Benny Blanco]

He's like, it happens. I'm gonna be, like, talking about it. While I'm eating, like, Angelini, like, octopus tonight. But it happens.

[Jake]

Isn't that crazy?

[Benny Blanco]

That's insane, Doctor. Our therapists saying everything.

[Jake]

I don't know. How long have you had your therapist.

[Benny Blanco]

For, like, 18 years.

[Jake]

Shut the up.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. How long have you had your. Six months?

[Jake]

Like a month? Like a year? Less than, Like, I don't know. And all I do is talk shit with her. I, like, don't.

[Benny Blanco]

You don't even. You don't even do therapy?

[Jake]

No.

[Benny Blanco]

Like, bitch, guess what. Is that basically you?

[Jake]

Yes. Well, no. Like, I'll get into, like, my intestine. Into intimacy. Intimacy problems in the last, like, five minutes.

[Benny Blanco]

You have intimacy problems?

[Jake]

Like, I definitely am not. Like, I don't have, like, solutions for it.

[Benny Blanco]

But what are the problems?

[Jake]

Like, I'm not good at it.

[Benny Blanco]

But why aren't you good at intimacy?

[Jake]

Because it makes me nervous.

[Benny Blanco]

Really?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Do you get nervous, like, to go in for the kiss? Do you get it?

[Jake]

No, I'm. I've actually was told twice last week by two different people that I'm a good kisser. I know.

[Benny Blanco]

That's so.

[Jake]

Never heard that before. And I was like, I'll take it.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, so you're a good kisser. I could see it. You look like a good kisser.

[Jake]

Really?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. You got a good mouth.

[Jake]

Thank you.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, so then you. What are the intimacy problems?

[Jake]

Like, I. I just get super anxious, like, before. I think I'm just, like, uncomfortable with my body.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, your body's great. Is that why you're going to the gym?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Did you. Did you, like, used to be like, a chubby kid or something?

[Jake]

Yeah, I was, like, very chubby when I was like, 10. And then I lost a bunch of weight, and then post grad, I gained a little bit of weight and then I was like, I gotta lose it.

[Benny Blanco]

You look great now.

[Jake]

Thank you so much. Nolan. Do you think I've lost weight since we've started this? Absolutely.

[Benny Blanco]

But are you. Are you trying to get, like, six pack?

[Jake]

Yeah, I, like, ideally I would. Like, like a four pack.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, that would be nice. Do you think how close?

[Jake]

Like, four, five months away if I took it seriously.

[Benny Blanco]

Do you have, like, a crazy trainer or something?

[Jake]

Yeah, but, like, I like.

[Benny Blanco]

You just like, talk shit.

[Jake]

Like, Like, I like, I go, like, I. I go out a lot and then I'm drunky, like. Yeah, I try to. I ate healthy today and yesterday.

[Benny Blanco]

Does he eat healthy? Yeah, I think so.

[Jake]

I overeat. I eat like I've never been fed.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, I have to eat Every two hours. Like, I'm starving right now.

[Jake]

Really?

[Benny Blanco]

Right before I came here, I came. I ate the second before I came here, and I'm starving.

[Jake]

What'd you eat?

[Benny Blanco]

I made, like, a nice little, like. I made, like, some, like, shrimp and vegetables and rice. Just, like, my favorite.

[Jake]

I really would like you to cook for me.

[Benny Blanco]

I would love to cook with.

[Jake]

Really?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. I want to be your friend in real life.

[Jake]

I want to be your friend in real life.

[Benny Blanco]

Really?

[Jake]

I'm dead serious.

[Benny Blanco]

Or do you just, like, say stuff like that?

[Jake]

No, I'm, like, dead serious. Like, I actually am gonna hit you up and text you.

[Benny Blanco]

Are you, like an LA follow through or just like.

[Jake]

No, I'm a. I'm a follow through.

[Benny Blanco]

Really?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

What do you usually do on the weekend?

[Jake]

Like, this weekend I'm in New York.

[Benny Blanco]

What are you doing? Aren't you, like, on tour?

[Jake]

Yeah, I go back on tour in a few weeks if you want to pop out.

[Benny Blanco]

So what is. So what's the tour? You do this on stage?

[Jake]

No, I, like, stand up and I talk about myself for, like, an hour and 45 minutes.

[Benny Blanco]

You just talk about yourself, like, however you feel that night, like.

[Jake]

Manny, can you explain? Can you give her the mic and can she explain, like, what she thinks?

[Benny Blanco]

The. Does anyone ever see them on camera so they just hear you guys? Are there people who have, like, crushes on them without. No, no.

[Jake]

I don't know. Not yet. Submissions. Oh, really? A lot of people.

[Benny Blanco]

People. Oh, about who? Oh, oh, about you?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, they say they fall in love with my voice. Oh, I didn't put their numbers in there. He's hot. He's like. He. He's definitely a hot guy. Thanks, man. He's definitely. Don't ever show yourself. No, don't. Keep it a mystery. Keep it a mystery. No, he's really hot. He's very hot.

[Jake]

Thank you. So, Manny, do you want to explain, like, what my show is like or what's the vibe?

[Benny Blanco]

Yes.

[Jake]

Let's. Let's get back to Jake. His show, it's basic. It's like a hybrid stand up. It's kind of like a big hangout session where he also has a structure and jokes, but audience participation. He talks about himself, he talks about his childhood. He, like the PowerPoint presentation has a lot of funny visuals, a lot of funny. Like, just a lot of his fans are called pussies. And so the pussies are a really big part of it. And it's kind of just like an hour and 45 minutes of hanging out and laughing. And then he also sings songs from my album.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, my God, I love that. Where are you playing? Here.

[Jake]

Here. We had to move the LA date.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

But in New York, I'm doing Radio City in June.

[Benny Blanco]

Amazing. Well, Radio City's huge.

[Jake]

I know.

[Benny Blanco]

Is that. Is that your biggest one you've ever done? Yeah. Oh, my God. Are you gonna sell it out?

[Jake]

I think it's about to be sold out.

[Benny Blanco]

Just selling out. Just like. Just, like, easy for you.

[Jake]

I don't know. Like, I. I didn't think it would sell that much, but it has New York' hometown, so.

[Benny Blanco]

That's so cool. I want to come.

[Jake]

Do you actually want to?

[Benny Blanco]

I want to come to a show. For sure. When is your LA show?

[Jake]

Like, we need to reschedule it.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. I'm 100% coming to your LA.

[Jake]

You have to.

[Benny Blanco]

I swear.

[Jake]

You have to pop out.

[Benny Blanco]

I swear I'll pop out.

[Jake]

Have you ever seen what's his name here? He. Jay Shady was here the other week. He said you guys were close friends. Have you been to one of his shows?

[Benny Blanco]

No. Oh, he came on your pod?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Really? Damn. You get everyone on your pod.

[Jake]

Oh, thanks. He talked about how much he adored you.

[Benny Blanco]

No.

[Jake]

Yes.

[Benny Blanco]

I just. We just. Me and Celine.

[Jake]

Yeah. He was telling me he was using your relationship as an example for a relationship like, that I should strive for.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, wow. Big shoes.

[Jake]

I know.

[Benny Blanco]

I. We. I have a good relationship.

[Jake]

I know.

[Benny Blanco]

It's really good.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

It's not. It's like. It's so easy.

[Jake]

That's. Well, love should be easy, huh?

[Benny Blanco]

It's so. It's usually. I used to think, like, oh, yeah, like, it's supposed to be hard. Like, it's supposed to be like, a fight. It's supposed to be like a pat. I kind of want that love. Easier, hard fights.

[Jake]

Like, I kind of, like, just want to experience toxicity.

[Benny Blanco]

I have a lot of gay friends.

[Jake]

You do? Can you set me up with one of them?

[Benny Blanco]

And I have, like. I have so many, like, cute parties and things to do. Like, I'll make all of them go to your Radio City show.

[Jake]

Really?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. So you, like, look like the man, and then you come off stage and you're like.

[Jake]

I'm like, oh, my God. And then I'll have an after party after.

[Benny Blanco]

Do you love a party?

[Jake]

I used to party when I was in college. I would party Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, every single week, sometimes Sunday. And I was. I wouldn't miss a night out. I literally refused to miss a night out. Like, if I missed A night out? Like hell had frozen over.

[Benny Blanco]

Do you miss a night out now?

[Jake]

All the time. I rarely go out now.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, what are you gonna do in New York?

[Jake]

Go out.

[Benny Blanco]

So tell me. Tell me your plans in New York this weekend. I want to know everything.

[Jake]

Do you really?

[Benny Blanco]

Yes.

[Jake]

Okay, so I get there.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Boring. No, I'm just. Well, okay. Okay, you get there.

[Jake]

Thursday I'm staying at.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

So I'm super excited. I've never stayed there before. Okay. I'm going to go on a date Thursday night with this guy I've been seeing.

[Benny Blanco]

What's the sushi restaurant? Okay.

[Jake]

Yeah, he was raving about it.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, it's yummy. I've only had postmates. I've never been there, but it was.

[Jake]

It was yummy. Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, keep going.

[Jake]

Okay, so I'm going to see him.

[Benny Blanco]

I think that's what it's called.

[Jake]

And he's. But we're getting drinks with my two girlfriends and him beforehand. Cuz my girlfriends wanted to see me.

[Benny Blanco]

And your girlfriends live in New York?

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, what are their names?

[Jake]

Cassidy and Sally.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, Cassidy and Sally.

[Jake]

And then Friday, this might. This might be. No. So Friday I'm gonna wake up and I'm gonna work out and then I have an important meeting that I'm really excited for, but it's over. Zoom. So it doesn't matter if I took it in New York or L. A or whatever. Then Friday night I have a reservation at my favorite, like, going out spot.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

And I have a reservation with me and all my girls. And we are gonna go and black out Saturday, same girls?

[Benny Blanco]

Cassidy.

[Jake]

Cassidy. And then. And then some.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. And a lot of girls, probably.

[Jake]

And then Saturday comes around and I have to fly to Boston because my best friend's older brother is giving the commencement speech at Northeastern.

[Benny Blanco]

Wow. Okay.

[Jake]

Yeah, Very exciting. So then I'm with a party there. Is Alex here? Alice.

[Benny Blanco]

Damn. Okay, then what?

[Jake]

Well, so we'll probably. Maybe not. We'll go out to a nice dinner, probably in Boston. I doubt. We'll party. And then Sunday I come back to New York, don't know what I'll do. And then Monday I have the Webby Awards.

[Benny Blanco]

Are you hosting or something?

[Jake]

No, I won an award.

[Benny Blanco]

Congrats.

[Jake]

Thanks.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, and then you'll party after that or.

[Jake]

No, no, I'll probably just because I have a flight Tuesday morning, very, very early. Where? Back to here to come home. Because I have to be here first thing in the morning to go to Alexander's studio to finish my Christmas song.

[Benny Blanco]

Long.

[Jake]

Because it's the last time I can do it before I leave for tour.

[Benny Blanco]

And then how long are you on tour for?

[Jake]

I am on tour from middle of May to end of May. And then I go to France all of June.

[Benny Blanco]

For what?

[Jake]

Wedding vacation. Another wedding, work vacation, back to tour.

[Benny Blanco]

And then what?

[Jake]

And then it's July.

[Benny Blanco]

And then what are you gonna do?

[Jake]

I finished tour a little more.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Jake]

And I'm gonna spend a lot of time in la. Maybe I'll go around in New York.

[Benny Blanco]

What a life.

[Jake]

Live my life.

[Benny Blanco]

What a life.

[Jake]

What are your plans for the summer?

[Benny Blanco]

I have some things I have to work on in la. And then honestly, I really want to take like a little break. I've been working so much. I realized, like, I haven't really, like, had much time off in a while. And I'm about to like, just like, relax. Like, I just want to, like, lay in bed. Like, I want to lay in bed and like, forget what day it is because we've been in bed, like, just watching you like that. Not usually. Yeah, but, but like, with Selena, I can do it like all day. Like, she makes me want to just like, hang out and cuddle and like, like, and just watch things and just like, eat food and have like, piles of food around us and like, have the best time ever.

[Jake]

Are you guys wedding planning yet? Has that.

[Benny Blanco]

Not yet. We. We like that. That's why we both need to show. We've both been working so much. We, like, got engaged. Then we like, were like, filming music videos for our album. Then like, we. Then, then we, we like. Then it's holidays. Then right after holidays, we had to like, start all the promo for our stuff. Then we do that. Then she left to film her show, Only Murders. And then like, I met her, then we hung out for like a week. And then right after that it's like, promo. And then I'm. I'm writing another book. So then I had to like, write like a book. And then like, she came back for like one day here. Then I, like, it's like, right. And it was my birthday and then it was, you know, so it's like, happy belated. Thanks. And then we never. And then, and then like, I'm. I'm always. We're both working on so many things that we hadn't even had time to, like, get into it. But, like, we're so excited. I think, like, this summer we're gonna like, sit down and be like, okay, what are we doing, hun?

[Jake]

That wedding's gonna be lit, huh?

[Benny Blanco]

I Think so.

[Jake]

I think it'll be awesome.

[Benny Blanco]

But it'll be, like, chill.

[Jake]

Yeah. Yeah, it'll be chill, but let.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, it'll be amazing. I don't know. I have no idea. What's that?

[Jake]

It's the Tell me what's wrong. Well, what were you about to say?

[Benny Blanco]

Nothing. What's. Tell me what's wrong?

[Jake]

It's the write in and they tell us what's wrong and we give them advice.

[Benny Blanco]

Are you serious?

[Jake]

Yeah. And we, like, prescribe them stuff.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

I got with a guy who I didn't realize had a girlfriend at the time. Now his friends are blaming me for the situation and even booed me last night because they broke up. Up. We're in the same social circles. So how do I get out of this?

[Benny Blanco]

You want to take this one away?

[Jake]

Like, I would just be like, you guys, you suck. Like, I don't know what to tell. Like, it sucks. Like, guys suck. Like, they're. Of course they're blaming you.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

They won't, like, put any responsibility onto their loser friend.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. I'm gonna be in charge of the next one.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

Your advice is crazy. Like, like, this is your thing.

[Jake]

Like, what? Men suck. Like, they. Like. What do you mean? Like, of course they. They won't blame their friend because then they have to look inward. Yeah, I don't. I would prescribe.

[Benny Blanco]

New dick.

[Jake]

I don't really know.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Okay.

[Jake]

I am seriously going to lose my mind over this girl. She has been one of my best friends for over six years, but I just can't stand to be around her anymore. We had an argument a while ago and stopped talking for six months, and it was the best six months of my life. Now that we patch things up a little, I'm starting to feel those same bad feelings as before. What should I tell her?

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, you.

[Jake]

You. I think you have a wiser.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay on this. Look, there's two worlds. Like, we all have. First of all, everybody has a friend that they're just, like, grandfathered in. Like, no matter what, they're like, they're. They. They. They kind of just have to be your friend for the rest of your life. You hate them, but they. But that you're so embarrassed of them. Every time you bring them around, you're like. You're like, oh, this is going to be terrible, but you have no other choice. They're already in the circle. And you can't get a new friend. They know too much.

[Jake]

Right?

[Benny Blanco]

Like, they're like. It's like a therapist. Like, you don't want to teach a new friend, like, all this stuff. They've been your friend for, like 10 years. You kind of have to keep them. So there's like a little bit of that world. And then I always think, like, the truth is going to set you free. You just have to tell the truth. You have to be like, look, I'm, like, finding myself, like, resenting you a little bit. We pat patch this up. Like, what are we going to do about it? And talk to them. And like, sometimes the mature thing is, like, letting go, and then sometimes it's like, oh, no, let's, like, try to work through this.

[Jake]

Right?

[Benny Blanco]

I. I think, I think. I think you should definitely try that. Unless they're already in the grandfathered in. Like, the grandfathered in. You have no. There's no choice. You're.

[Jake]

You're right, because they know too much.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. Grandfathered in there. Like, don't you have some friends you, like, hate? Like, you hate them like they're your friend? No, you do.

[Jake]

Really?

[Benny Blanco]

It's. You know what I'm talking about. You know? Yeah, obviously. He's such a liar. He's such a liar. You just, like, don't want it. You're on. It's because we're on a podcast. Like, like, yeah, I have friends I hate. You know who you are. I don't even know which camera to look at. No, but, like, you hate them. Like, you don't actually hate them. You're just like, oh, really? You said that. Like, we're like, like, right. Do you have, like, people you bring around someone you're like, why would you say that? Like, that's usually me. Oh, really?

[Jake]

Yeah, that's. I. Maybe I'm the friend. Yeah, like, my friend will always is. Like, what the. Why the fuck would you say that? Like, how could you say that? Like, you've been like, you're so embarrassing, so. But I would prescribe Truth Hurts by Lizzo oh.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, okay. Okay, okay.

[Jake]

You see?

[Benny Blanco]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Jake]

The past two or three guys I've gotten with keep finishing so quickly. Like, record speed. I know it's a low key compliment, but come on, what do I got to do here?

[Benny Blanco]

Some people have, like, issues with it. Maybe, I think maybe like, try a lot of foreplay first so that, like, by the time you get to set, like. Like, maybe, like, have them, like, go down on you or, like, do something that's gonna, you know, or bring a toy into it or something. Something that's gonna get you either like you already came before or, like you can come very easily, and then maybe that'll, like, work their confidence back up. I prescribe. I prescribe. Like, going to Babeland or something.

[Jake]

I used to toy the first time I lost my virginity.

[Benny Blanco]

You did?

[Jake]

Yeah. No, that insane first time. Yes.

[Benny Blanco]

That's insane.

[Jake]

Isn't that insane?

[Benny Blanco]

That's crazy.

[Jake]

Like, isn't that crazy?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, that's crazy. That's insane. Like, you're so.

[Jake]

I don't think I've even ever told my friends that.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, that's insane. That's insane.

[Jake]

I want to become a singer songwriter and went to an open mic the other night and got awkwardly laughed off stage after my performance. It didn't kill me, but it sure didn't feel good. Like, am I cut out for this?

[Benny Blanco]

Do you want to start? And then I will.

[Jake]

Like, yeah, I think you're cut out for it. I think your outlook on it is great. Like, it didn't kill me, but it was. Didn't feel great. Obviously, that's not gonna feel good. You're human. Of course it's not gonna feel good.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. People tell me no still all the time. Yes. So many times. Like, like, you're gonna fail so much. Like, you're gonna fail constantly. Like, you're gonna. Like, nobody's gonna remember your failures, though. Like, nobody's coming up to you, and they're like, jake, do you remember that, like, one podcast you had that, like, didn't go off that well or, like, at that show when you told that one joke? Like, and if they are focused on that, they're, like, a piece of. And, like, they shouldn't. Like, it doesn't. Like, they're just, like, praying on your downfall. But, like, no normal person. Like, when you talk about, like, Michael Jordan, you're not, like, remember when he missed that, like, game winning three? You're like, oh, my God. Do you remember when he dunked from the foul line with his tongue out? Like, yeah, you know, you're, like, thinking of, like, that, right? Like, and I. I think you just have to, like, keep going and. And. And it's all gonna work out. And, like, the only chance you won't make it is if you quit. Like, that's the only chance you guaranteed to not make it.

[Jake]

I guess you're right.

[Benny Blanco]

What do you want to prescribe?

[Jake]

Stronger by Kelly Clarkson.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, my friend made that song. Really?

[Jake]

Who made that?

[Benny Blanco]

Ali Tamposi.

[Jake]

Oh, wow.

[Benny Blanco]

Singer, songwriter.

[Jake]

Have you ever worked with Kelly Clarkson?

[Benny Blanco]

I've never worked with Kelly. I went on her show, but I never worked with her.

[Jake]

Oh, okay, my best friend just started dating my secret crush of a year and a half. I know that's totally on me, but I'm heartbroken and I'm dreaming of sabotage. Do I commit to the bit or just be more open with my feelings next time? So actually I've had an experience with this. One time my friend hooked up with my crush and.

[Benny Blanco]

And did you. Did he know was your crush?

[Jake]

So I thought he did, but he was like, you never told me that you liked this guy, so that is on you. And it was on me. But next time you just have to be more open and honest.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, I think so too.

[Jake]

Like it? I learned the hard way. What do you want me. I. How dare you hook up with him like you knew I liked him. He's like, you literally never told me that. And I didn't.

[Benny Blanco]

Did you ask him like the tea on it, like.

[Jake]

Yeah, I did.

[Benny Blanco]

Was it good?

[Jake]

He said it was. Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, well, what do you.

[Jake]

What do you recommend?

[Benny Blanco]

Yours was perfect. But what do we prescribe?

[Jake]

What do we prescribe?

[Benny Blanco]

Nothing.

[Jake]

I don't. Do you have anything?

[Benny Blanco]

This is your show.

[Jake]

I know, but I'm kind of like speechless. Like, I don't really know.

[Benny Blanco]

It touched you too deep.

[Jake]

Yeah, I guess maybe it did. Like, I prescribe you my situation.

[Benny Blanco]

You prescribe like maybe real therapy?

[Jake]

No. Or.

[Benny Blanco]

No, never that. Yoga? Yeah. Oh, I presume.

[Jake]

Sure.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, I prescribe. Like, what would they prescribe? Like, like Earth Cafe or something.

[Jake]

I hate.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, obviously I have nobody, like, nobody likes Earth Cafe.

[Jake]

Really? Then why is it still around?

[Benny Blanco]

I riddle mean hot. Because I think like people saw it on like Entourage and were like, oh, really? I think so.

[Jake]

I hate that place. What's your favorite restaurant in la?

[Benny Blanco]

Not Earth Cafe.

[Jake]

Yeah, same.

[Benny Blanco]

What, what, what are. What are your faves? Actual faves.

[Jake]

Matsuhisa.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

I love Matsuhisa.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Okay, cool.

[Jake]

Toscana.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

Have you been to Toast Ghana?

[Benny Blanco]

Yes.

[Jake]

It's amazing. Oh, I guess you've been there. So La Cha Cha Cha in downtown la.

[Benny Blanco]

The. What's that?

[Jake]

It's great. It's Mexican food.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

That's about it.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. See three places. Do you cook?

[Jake]

Yeah, I. I used to a lot more than I do now. Oh, Mr. Chow. Love Mr. Chow.

[Benny Blanco]

What do you. What do you cook?

[Jake]

I used to cook.

[Benny Blanco]

What do you used to, like, do you die? Like, Like, I just.

[Jake]

I order in every day.

[Benny Blanco]

You do? What'd you order today?

[Jake]

Well, today I had like a pre made meal from my healthy chef.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, are you on like a.

[Jake]

Like A pre. A pre cooked meals thing.

[Benny Blanco]

Really? You're really trying to get, like, skinny.

[Jake]

I'm really trying.

[Benny Blanco]

Is it. Is it good?

[Jake]

Yeah, she's. She's great.

[Benny Blanco]

How many calories are you allowed to have a day?

[Jake]

I haven't gotten that that far yet, but I know I will one day, like, if I ever get lucky and I get like a roll where I have to be super skinny and ripped. Like, I'm excited for that day where I'm like, I can only eat this many calories.

[Benny Blanco]

Really?

[Jake]

Do you cook every day? Yeah, for every meal I cook a.

[Benny Blanco]

Lot because, like, by the time you order Postmates, it's like, you're like, what was this supposed to be? Yeah, it's like so cold and like, disgusting. Or like the guy, like, it looks like he got in like, like an off roading, like, like accident. Like, you're like. Like the crispy tuna rice is like upside down and there's like, there's like a jalapeno, like, somehow out of the box already. Like, and it's just like, you're like, what?

[Jake]

Like, yes.

[Benny Blanco]

So I'd rather just like, make stuff at home. And I. Yeah, I really love cooking. Like, I love.

[Jake]

What's your favorite restaurant?

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, my favorite restaurants. Okay, so I love. I love a place called Sushi Yamamoto.

[Jake]

Oh, okay. This is good to know. I need a new sushi place.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. It's amazing. It's a little bit pricey, but it's nice. And it's like very like, sneaky, like up in a thing. It's like, it's cool. And. Yeah, like, of course. I love, like, Sushi park and all that. But, like, it's. It's. It's really delicious and it's really cool. And then I like. I like Thai food a lot.

[Jake]

I love Thai food.

[Benny Blanco]

So, like, I love like Jit Lada, Northern Thai food. They're in Thai town.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

And I love, like, spicy bbq. And then like, I love Mexican food.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

So I love, like, you know, Marisco, Jalisco. I love like, tacos la unica. I love halbosh.

[Jake]

I've been to Hall Bosch.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Jake]

I got octopus talk. I got octopus tostadas.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, yeah. So good.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

And I love, like, I like, like, I love like, found oyster and stuff.

[Jake]

You're putting me on it.

[Benny Blanco]

I like sapphires. Have you been this?

[Jake]

Yes, I've been to South Easy's.

[Benny Blanco]

Is yum.

[Jake]

Carousel.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, of course.

[Jake]

I love Terry.

[Benny Blanco]

I love, like Raffy's.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

And all that. Never been to Rafi's Ravi's getting, like, mini kebab.

[Jake]

Wait, maybe I have been to Rafi's.

[Benny Blanco]

Rafi's is, like, the Persian Armenian place.

[Jake]

Or a little fancier. Yeah, yeah, I've been there.

[Benny Blanco]

Then I like.

[Jake]

I like Madeo.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. Medeo's. Great. Old school.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

I, like. I usually cook Italian food when it's at home because that's, like.

[Jake]

That's the one thing I cook, too.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, you do?

[Jake]

I make a pasta.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

I pour a bunch of olive oil in a pan.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

Cut up a bunch of tomatoes.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay.

[Jake]

Saute the tomatoes until the olive oil becomes, like, tomatoey olive oil.

[Benny Blanco]

Beautiful.

[Jake]

Then I make my pasta on the side. Save a bunch of pasta water, pour the pasta in, pour the pasta water in, mix it all together, and then I, like, add cheese and salt, call it a day.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. It's delicious.

[Jake]

Yeah, it's great.

[Benny Blanco]

Like, everything should be, like, simple, beautiful.

[Jake]

What's your favorite thing to cook?

[Benny Blanco]

Honestly, I cook so many different things.

[Jake]

I really want you to cook for me.

[Benny Blanco]

I will cook for you. I'll cook. Now that I know you like Italian, I'll cook you, like, a delicious Italian.

[Jake]

Okay. I'm excited.

[Benny Blanco]

We're gonna make, like a. Like, a. I can either do, like, northern, like, super, like, kind of like.

[Jake]

I like Northern Italian, or I could.

[Benny Blanco]

Do, like, you know, like, chicken parmesan. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so we'll do, like, a towel. We'll do, like, beautiful Italian with, like. With, like, a beautiful pasta. Like, maybe a seafood pasta. Like a lobster pasta.

[Jake]

Like, I love lobster pasta.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, we'll, like, do that. And I'll make, like, a beautiful, like, bread and. And make, like, a really good salad and maybe, like, a little bit of, like, steak.

[Jake]

Like, I love a steak.

[Benny Blanco]

Like, a delicious steak.

[Jake]

I love a steak.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Jake]

How do you eat your steak?

[Benny Blanco]

Like, I'll, like. I. First, I'll, like, smoke it.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

On, like, a Traeger for, like, an hour, really slow and get it, like, super smoky. Then take it off and, like, sear it and give it, like, a butter bath with, like. With, like, garlic. And then I'll rub your feet.

[Jake]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

Do you want me to rub your feet or it's like that the intimacy is too much?

[Jake]

No, no. I like.

[Benny Blanco]

But I can.

[Jake]

I like having my feet.

[Benny Blanco]

I can make you feel comfy, like.

[Jake]

In, like, a massage setting.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Jake]

Like an intimate.

[Benny Blanco]

I can make you feel, like, very.

[Jake]

Yeah, I'm sure you can. I went to a Valentine's Day celebration with my boyfriend and his family. I got really drunk and made out with his cousin. I really just want to sweep this one under the rug, but I know I shouldn't help.

[Benny Blanco]

Do they know?

[Jake]

So it's. I don't know. But it does sound like you cheated on your boyfriend.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, that's a no. No.

[Jake]

Of course.

[Benny Blanco]

That's bad. That's bad. That's. That's like really bad. Yeah, she's on your boyfriend with his cousin.

[Jake]

He definitely doesn't know.

[Benny Blanco]

And he's not saying anything either. Like every. Is everyone a bad person? The boyfriend's not. Not.

[Jake]

Well, the boyfriend's probably. She said she wants to sweep this one under the rugs. It sounds like he doesn't know.

[Benny Blanco]

Maybe. Yeah, but like, so like, she's like. Might be bad.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

And like the cousin is dead. It sounds like maybe the cousin is definitely bad.

[Jake]

Well, it sounds like she has a drinking problem.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, yeah. And the cousin for sure is like.

[Jake]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Like. Yeah.

[Jake]

I would prescribe, you know, blame it on the alcohol cover version.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, I was just talking about Jamie Foxx recently. I've never seen Glee. I know about it though, and I know everything.

[Jake]

I mean, I would hope that you would know about Glee. They've done Teenage Dream twice.

[Benny Blanco]

Really?

[Jake]

I'm gonna be sick.

[Benny Blanco]

I'm sorry.

[Jake]

I'm gonna be sick. What do you mean?

[Benny Blanco]

Just shut up and read the next question.

[Jake]

No, they did Teenage Dream once in all boys school.

[Benny Blanco]

So.

[Jake]

Good amount?

[Benny Blanco]

Amazing.

[Jake]

It was amazing, amazing, amazing.

[Benny Blanco]

I'm so out of the loop. It's crazy.

[Jake]

I can't believe you've never seen Glee. So they did Teenage Dream once and it was like a bunch of. It was an all boy school called. And there was an acapella group called the Warblers. So they did the first Teenage Dream.

[Benny Blanco]

I don't even know the concept of Glee.

[Jake]

It's a Glee club in high school. Oh, okay, so. And it was super major when they did it, so. But then when the guy in the Warblers breaks up with Kurt, the guy in the other Glee club, he sings an acoustic rendition of Teenage Stream in a New York City bar.

[Benny Blanco]

Did you lose your mind?

[Jake]

I did like my shivers down my spine. Do you know what I'm talking about? It is one of the most iconic moments in Gleek history.

[Benny Blanco]

I love you.

[Jake]

Thank you. I love you too.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, go to the next one.

[Jake]

Okay. You know you'll cook for me. I'll watch Glee with you.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Is that our first date?

[Jake]

Yes.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. I can't believe you haven't seen so.

[Jake]

Many of your songs have been On Glee?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Jake]

I just met a guy and we hooked up. Well, it turns out he's married, he's 23, and now I just took a pregnancy test and it was positive. He will not return my text. What is a woman to do?

[Benny Blanco]

I prescribe. Write a screenplay. That's crazy, right? What she just said is insane, right? Read it one more time.

[Jake]

I just met a guy and we hooked up. Well, it turns out he's married, he's 23, and now I just took a pregnancy test and it was positive. He will not return my text. What is a woman to do?

[Benny Blanco]

Buy a gun.

[Jake]

Right, for him.

[Benny Blanco]

And like, yeah, yeah, maybe, or yeah, or that.

[Jake]

That's crazy. I mean, I would definitely out him to his wife. For sure.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, for sure. DM to the wife. DM to the wife. First thing. First thing, right?

[Jake]

I wouldn't. Hey, girly. A dm. If with a pregnancy, like, I would, like, maybe like, find her at work. I prescribe. Once again, the Other Woman. Best movie ever. I would go to them at work and be like, yo, like, your husband fudged me and I am now pregnant and I did not know he was married. I'm so sorry. I'm either keeping the baby or I'm not. And just like, what do you want to do here personally? Because, like, we should stick together.

[Benny Blanco]

I love it.

[Jake]

Yeah, that's what I would do.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, for sure.

[Jake]

And then, like, maybe like, plot revenge against him. Together.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, together. Revenge. Is that the, the, the plot of.

[Jake]

Other of the other women? Yeah, they, they, yeah. Or I also prescribe, like, John Tucker Must Die.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, yeah.

[Jake]

So you do know pop culture.

[Benny Blanco]

I've seen, I've seen that one.

[Jake]

John Tucker Must Die.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, yeah, I've seen, seen that one.

[Jake]

It's the best movie ever.

[Benny Blanco]

What's that guy's name?

[Jake]

John Tucker.

[Benny Blanco]

No, his real name. In real.

[Jake]

Oh, of course. I don't know.

[Benny Blanco]

Was he like, your crush growing up?

[Jake]

Yeah, I also thought he was very attractive.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jake]

I also had a gay awakening with.

[Benny Blanco]

With who?

[Jake]

I forget now. Okay, okay, well, that was our last. Tell me what's wrong. So, Benny, what did we learn today?

[Benny Blanco]

Is this what happens? Oh, you ask people what they learned.

[Jake]

Yeah. What did you learn?

[Benny Blanco]

I learned that you're a really good guy, and I learned that I feel like you deserve, like, the best type of love. Oh, my God, you might be the problem. I think you might be a little bit selfish and maybe the problem, but, like, you need to find the right person that's gonna, like, tame your lion and, like, put you in place when you need to be. And it sounds like you can make a good pasta. And I can't wait to watch Glee with you.

[Jake]

I learned that you have never seen Glee and you literally don't know how. The songs you've made. Benny Blanco. Thank you for coming on, therapist.

[Benny Blanco]

I love you.

[Jake]

I love you, too.

[Benny Blanco]

I love you guys, too.

[Jake]

This was the best.

[Benny Blanco]

Was it good?

[Jake]

This was amazing. Do you want to give a little Bye.

[Benny Blanco]

Bye.

[Jake]

Bye.

[Benny Blanco]

Bye.