Session 84: HAIM

Summary

Podcast Summary: Therapuss with Jake Shane — Session 84: HAIM

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Introduction

In Session 84 of Therapuss with Jake Shane, the Haim sisters—Alana, Danielle, and Este—join host Jake Shane for an engaging and introspective conversation. The episode delves into their recent tour experiences, the creation of their fourth studio album I Quit, personal anecdotes, and a segment dedicated to relationship advice, maintaining the show's signature blend of humor and deep reflection.

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Tour Reflections and Experiences

The Haim sisters kick off the discussion by recounting their exhilarating experiences from their recent tour. Danielle shares her gratitude towards fans and crew, highlighting the transformative journey of conquering stage fright.

Danielle Haim [00:11]: "I only during the meet and greets I would hear people tell me that they made friends and it was just so, so lovely and I'm so grateful."

The conversation shifts to their upcoming I Quit tour, with excitement palpable as they discuss the logistics and emotions tied to live performances post-pandemic.

Alana Haim [07:58]: "She seems like such a babe. It’s such a perfect couple."

Album Creation: I Quit

The sisters delve into the genesis of their album title, I Quit, revealing it as an inside joke inspired by the movie "That Thing You Do!" This title encapsulates their journey of quitting various personal habits and embracing growth.

Alana Haim [47:43]: "We were just like, let's just put it as the file working title. I quit. And then once we were listening, like, finally, when all the songs were done and we were listening back to all the songs, all of the songs had, like, it was like, we were quitting."

They elaborate on the album’s themes, emphasizing stories of quitting negative behaviors to improve their lives, which resonate throughout the tracks.

Este Haim [50:12]: "To me, it's the most cathartic thing to do is to just get it out and write about it, sing about it, talk about it."

Personal Stories and Anecdotes

The sisters share vivid stories from their past, including humorous and chaotic moments from their high school years. They reminisce about sneaking into concerts, showcasing their adventurous spirits and the bonds formed through shared experiences.

Alana Haim [19:00]: "I have a face for it. You're not supposed to be here. Like, even to this day, like, I'm just gonna be fine."

They also discuss their friendships within the music industry, particularly their long-standing relationship with Kesha and their mutual friends, highlighting the supportive network that has influenced their careers.

Este Haim [14:43]: "We've been friends with Kesha since 2004."

Relationship Advice: Tell Me What's Wrong

In the hallmark segment of the show, the Haim sisters tackle submitted relationship dilemmas with compassion and practical advice.

1. Managing Social Media Interactions

   • Issue: A listener feels hurt by her boyfriend’s frequent likes on bikini and thirst trap photos of other girls.

   • Advice: The sisters emphasize the importance of open communication and setting boundaries. They advocate for addressing the issue directly and considering the impact on the relationship.

     Alana Haim [62:35]: "It makes me upset. But so I..."

2. Navigating Unrequited Love

   • Issue: A listener is deeply in love with her sister's best friend but has faced rejection.

   • Advice: The sisters suggest leaving the situation if the feelings aren’t reciprocated, emphasizing the importance of respecting both her and the other person’s boundaries.

     Este Haim [65:31]: "What are you doing? So if it didn't work, then I think you leave it because they're gonna have to come to you."

3. Dealing with Roommate Conflicts

   • Issue: A listener discovers her roommate's new partner had an inappropriate encounter in her room.

   • Advice: The sisters recommend confronting the roommate to address the disrespectful behavior, ensuring personal boundaries are upheld.

     Alana Haim [64:44]: "Confront. Both."

4. Maintaining Long-Distance Friendships

   • Issue: A listener is moving to college and seeks ways to maintain friendships over long distances.

   • Advice: The sisters highlight the significance of regular communication through calls and FaceTiming, as well as planning visits to sustain the connection.

     Este Haim [68:31]: "Friendships, romantic relationships, parents. It’s always a long-distance relationship."

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Conclusion

Session 84 of Therapuss with Jake Shane offers listeners an intimate glimpse into the Haim sisters' lives, blending their rich musical journey with personal stories and heartfelt advice. The episode underscores the importance of communication, boundary-setting, and the enduring strength of familial and friendship bonds. As the sisters prepare to embark on their I Quit tour, their enthusiasm and commitment to their craft resonate deeply, leaving listeners inspired and connected.

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Notable Quotes

• Danielle Haim [00:11]: "Meeting all of you guys and like making you guys laugh, like hearing you guys laugh in real time was like the greatest gift I could have ever received."
• Alana Haim [47:43]: "We were just like, let's just put it as the file working title. I quit."
• Este Haim [50:12]: "To me, it's the most cathartic thing to do is to just get it out and write about it, sing about it, talk about it."
• Alana Haim [62:35]: "It makes me upset. But so I..."
• Este Haim [68:31]: "Friendships, romantic relationships, parents. It’s always a long-distance relationship."

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Final Thoughts

For fans of HAIM or those intrigued by the blend of therapy and pop culture, Session 84 provides a comprehensive and entertaining exploration of the band's dynamics, personal growth, and the universal challenges of maintaining relationships. Whether you're seeking musical inspiration or practical relationship advice, this episode delivers with authenticity and charm.

Transcript

[Alana Haim]

Hi.

[Danielle Haim]

Welcome back to therapists. I just wrapped tour. I literally just landed. I am so exhausted, but I'm so happy to be home. I had such an incredible time on tour. Meeting all of you guys and like making you guys laugh, like hearing you guys laugh in real time was like the greatest gift I could have ever received. It was so. It was like a once in a lifetime experience and I was so. I had so much stage fright before and I think it kind of went not one away, but it definitely dissipated a bit. So I'm really happy I conquered that. And you guys just made it so easy. You made me so comfortable. And every environment of every show was just so awesome and everyone was so nice to each other and I only during the meet and greets I would hear people tell me that they made friends and it was just so, so lovely and I'm so grateful. So to anyone that came to life with Jake, Shane, thank you so much. It was so. It was a life changing experience and obviously thank you to Matt, Louise, Manny, Meg, John, Ethan, Omid, any, the entire crew for the entire tour. Thank you so much. They couldn't have been done without you and you guys really made it what it was. This week on Therapist, we have Haim, who just released their fourth studio album, I Quit, which is incred. I'm not even just saying that. It is really so amazing. I was literally listening to Cry on the way here, which is my favorite song off the album. But I just adore them. I literally am obsessed with them. They are so funny, awesome, and talented and just such good people. They are also about to embark on their I quit tour. If you want to get tickets, it's there. It's literally amazing. I'm so sorry. I'm so out of it. I haven't eaten all day and I just landed and I literally am not a person yet. But I love you guys. Thank you so much for everything. Hopefully I will be able to go on tour again one day. Yeah. Enjoy the episode. To submit a Tell me what's wrong, go to passthatpost.com and leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Okay. Enjoy the episode. Love you.

[Alana Haim]

I can't believe we're done.

[Danielle Haim]

So happy.

[Alana Haim]

I know. I'm so happy for my dinner from.

[Danielle Haim]

Our dinner at Little Doll. That was a long dinner.

[Alana Haim]

I know.

[Este Haim]

We had a lot to talk.

[Danielle Haim]

We had a lot to talk about. We talked a lot about Bravo. Are you still.

[Alana Haim]

Are you still watching I make a Rule? Because we were just talking about are we doing this Right. Are we in? Oh. I make a rule that I stop watching Bravo when I know I'm about to go on tour because I want to bank episodes so I can binge. So I have fallen off so hard, but I am the biggest Housewives fan. But I'm literally. We're leaving, like, tonight. I'm leaving tonight, and I'm gonna watch, so. Because I. I also get low key airplane anxiety.

[Danielle Haim]

Oh, really?

[Alana Haim]

I get kind of nervous on. I don't. It's like, kind of like a new thing. I get nervous on planes now, and so I, like, need comfort shows.

[Danielle Haim]

Right.

[Alana Haim]

So it's like a lot of below deck, a lot of summer house. I have so much summer house to catch up on. All the Housewives.

[Este Haim]

Or you can just get a vpn, which is what I've done.

[Danielle Haim]

And you just work.

[Este Haim]

Yes.

[Danielle Haim]

What is a vpn?

[Este Haim]

I don't know, But. But it's the thing that allows me to watch TV shows that I watch in the States that I can't watch overseas.

[Guest Host]

I feel like you are the only sister that knows how to do this.

[Danielle Haim]

I don't know how to do that.

[Guest Host]

Would be the one.

[Este Haim]

I. Because I. You have restraint. If I want to watch something, I need to watch it.

[Danielle Haim]

What are you watching?

[Este Haim]

I'm. Well on. Because we don't have h. We don't have hbo. We don't have HBO overseas.

[Danielle Haim]

Right.

[Este Haim]

I. I love the Last of Us.

[Danielle Haim]

I'm not caught up.

[Alana Haim]

I'm not caught up to say anything.

[Danielle Haim]

Well, what episodes are you on?

[Este Haim]

I watched the. There was an episode last night and was it good? So good. They go in. Okay, fine, I won't.

[Alana Haim]

You just. You just started the sentence with, I.

[Este Haim]

Don'T want to know where they go.

[Danielle Haim]

What episode did you make it to? Have you even started season two?

[Alana Haim]

I haven't. Again, I'm binging. So, like, I haven't even started season two.

[Danielle Haim]

How have you not heard?

[Alana Haim]

I haven't started. And it's one of my favorite shows, too, you guys. I'm very. I'm.

[Este Haim]

I love Pedro Pascal more than anything.

[Alana Haim]

Yes.

[Este Haim]

I love him more than anything. And also, Bella Ramsey is so good. So, yeah, this is, like. It's my truly, like, my Super Bowl. I get in my. I get, like, under my covers in my little clamshell. I have. I, like, take a ton of insulin and then I eat a bunch of Sour Patch Kids. This is, like, the one day. It's like I save up the diabetes points for Sunday. I sit, I watch the Last of Us, and then I watch 90 Day Fiance.

[Danielle Haim]

Because I've never seen 90 Day Fiance.

[Alana Haim]

I have never seen. That's.

[Guest Host]

That's.

[Este Haim]

I lose them.

[Alana Haim]

That's where we lose.

[Danielle Haim]

Because I don't believe it.

[Alana Haim]

It's not.

[Este Haim]

Well, it's not real. It's not right.

[Alana Haim]

What do you mean it's not real?

[Danielle Haim]

It's not real.

[Este Haim]

It's totally. No, it's not.

[Alana Haim]

I mean, what does that mean?

[Este Haim]

As in, like, it's. I think. I just think that, like, it's. It's the most scripted, non scripted show that I've ever seen. Like, I can tell that they're acting at least on other shows. Like, I know, like they're being produced. Housewives.

[Danielle Haim]

Yes.

[Alana Haim]

Like, I know they're being. We want them to be produced. We want it.

[Este Haim]

But this is like blatant. Like, okay, character A is gonna say to character B this. How can you tell the acting is not there.

[Alana Haim]

I also love that we've all. All three of us have never seen the show. So we're just taking your word for it.

[Este Haim]

We're like, oh, okay, well, when you watch. Can take notes and it's not real. I just. But I.

[Alana Haim]

What it.

[Este Haim]

But I just love the. I love the love story because it's.

[Alana Haim]

It's.

[Este Haim]

You have 90 days to figure out if you want to get married.

[Danielle Haim]

Do they ever get married?

[Este Haim]

Sometimes they do. Sometimes they do. And sometimes they have kids. Sometimes it, like, lasts for like, there's like 90 day fiance babies. What? Yes. Children, like in their teens, maybe even. Maybe that's not teens. No, it's on tlc. But it's on, which means it's on hbo.

[Danielle Haim]

Yes. Wait, TLC is hbo?

[Este Haim]

Yes.

[Danielle Haim]

Well, HBO is now finally renamed hbo.

[Este Haim]

I know, sorry, sorry.

[Danielle Haim]

HBO Max.

[Este Haim]

But it just says Max on my little. Okay, guys.

[Alana Haim]

Okay.

[Guest Host]

Okay.

[Este Haim]

Sorry, guys. The Indo. I did not read the Indo newsletter.

[Alana Haim]

That.

[Este Haim]

Where they explained that HBO Max is now HBO Max.

[Danielle Haim]

No, it was like. It was.

[Este Haim]

It was confusing.

[Danielle Haim]

It was easy to miss, but it was there.

[Este Haim]

Okay, great.

[Danielle Haim]

It was.

[Este Haim]

Sorry, I've been. I've been so, like, tunnel vision. The last of us. That's all I've been thinking about. It's all I've been watching. I love that show so much.

[Danielle Haim]

Did you see Bella Ramsey's when they did take on Me?

[Alana Haim]

You guys, is this a spoiler?

[Danielle Haim]

No, no, no. When Bella rams.

[Guest Host]

Oh.

[Alana Haim]

Oh, no. Yes. Yeah.

[Este Haim]

Well, it's not a spoiler.

[Danielle Haim]

When they sang it on the guitar.

[Este Haim]

Yes.

[Alana Haim]

Okay, this is a spoiler because I have no idea.

[Este Haim]

Well, it's on yeah, it is on the show.

[Alana Haim]

Aha.

[Este Haim]

Yes.

[Danielle Haim]

No, trust me, that's not a spoiler. I actually got, like, the biggest spoiler spoiled for me, you guys.

[Este Haim]

You did?

[Alana Haim]

What do you mean?

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah, I was sitting at dinner with. No, I won't. Because I would never dare. But I was sitting at dinner with my roommate Brad, and she was like, can you believe that happened?

[Alana Haim]

I was like, don't you hate when that happens?

[Danielle Haim]

No.

[Este Haim]

No, I can't believe. Because I didn't know.

[Danielle Haim]

No, I'm like. And it was the ultimate spoiler.

[Alana Haim]

Oh, no.

[Este Haim]

That show.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah. And.

[Este Haim]

Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about.

[Alana Haim]

Don't say it.

[Este Haim]

I won't. But it is tragic trash. Tra.

[Alana Haim]

Jake. Well, guess what? We're wearing. Just. You guys know also.

[Este Haim]

We are fucked up.

[Alana Haim]

I'm going to be so kooky things. My brain is scrambled.

[Este Haim]

Yeah.

[Danielle Haim]

Are you guys just in, like, album mode?

[Alana Haim]

We are in Alamo, officially.

[Danielle Haim]

And what's that like?

[Alana Haim]

It's crazy. I mean, the thing is, like, this is a lot different to our last album because with Women in Music Part three, we made it. It came. We announced the album.

[Guest Host]

Announced the album. March, like, sixth. Yeah.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Guest Host]

Like 2020.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah. Yeah. We were, like, coming out. We were like, our album's coming out. We're so excited. We announced it. We, like, went on. Jimmy Fallon was like, it's coming out. And then obviously, we all know what happened. I'm looking.

[Danielle Haim]

No, your birthday was March 13th.

[Este Haim]

March 14th.

[Alana Haim]

14Th.

[Danielle Haim]

Couldn't be worse.

[Alana Haim]

I know.

[Danielle Haim]

Because at least March 13th, you could be like, well, at least it's my birthday. And then, like, March 14, it's like, can you imagine?

[Este Haim]

I literally baked myself a little cupcake. I had. I found. I literally found, like, a candle.

[Alana Haim]

Like a.

[Este Haim]

Like a random candle that I got from ikea. Lit it. I ordered a balloon. Thank God. Postmates was, like, still working that day.

[Danielle Haim]

Right?

[Este Haim]

I ordered balloons for myself.

[Danielle Haim]

And you were alone.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah. Because no one knew. Yeah.

[Este Haim]

Everyone was like, oh, we are.

[Alana Haim]

We also had just come back from New York, so, like, New York. It was like, everyone needs to.

[Danielle Haim]

I was in New York during that. I had to fly into.

[Este Haim]

Me, too. I got Covid from the Bowery.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah. So we were. So we were.

[Danielle Haim]

Do you lose your taste?

[Este Haim]

Taste, smell. I remember, like, this was happening.

[Guest Host]

Something about talking, like, about COVID Like, I don't know. It feels weird.

[Danielle Haim]

It's the weirdest time of my life.

[Alana Haim]

I like it. I don't like it. Like, so. Okay. I don't like it. I'm like, okay, I'll change the subject. No, no. But what I was going to say. So, like, that happened. Our album comes out during the pandemic, and then we had to wait two years to tour. So basically, the world of women in music, part three, lasted, like, almost five years.

[Danielle Haim]

Were you super over it by the end?

[Alana Haim]

No, I wasn't. I wanted to keep going because we. I mean, not to talk about COVID anymore, but when we were in it, we. We. I fully thought, like, live music is never going to come back.

[Danielle Haim]

Right. Ever.

[Alana Haim]

I was like, I can't even believe that we had live music before. And now it's just. I don't think it's ever going to come out. Like, it's not going to come back. And so, like, that heartbreak every day because there was no information. Like, we. No one knew the answer. And. And so when we actually had the opportunity to go back on tour, I.

[Este Haim]

Was like, we were so miracles.

[Alana Haim]

When you believe. I was like the. I was Anne Hathaway in the Princess Diaries.

[Danielle Haim]

Diaries.

[Alana Haim]

Yes. Thank you. I needed that. Again, my references are going to be really hard to get by. That's why Estee's here.

[Este Haim]

I got you.

[Alana Haim]

So with this, it's like we're. Our album is coming out, and then we're immediately going on tour. So I'm, like, ecstatic. I'm like, this is.

[Danielle Haim]

You can, like, ride the wave.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Danielle Haim]

Instead of, like, riding one way and then waiting for the next one.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

This is, like, a more normal way of releasing a record.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah. You have.

[Este Haim]

You put it out and you tore it, and then we'll see what happens. You know what I mean?

[Danielle Haim]

Do you guys get along on tour? Do you ever fight or do.

[Alana Haim]

No, no, no, we do, because we're.

[Danielle Haim]

Also just so I can imagine you guys fighting.

[Alana Haim]

Oh, we fight.

[Danielle Haim]

We're human.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah, we're human. As he thought that I stole her jacket this morning. I see. Rolled up his jacket. And I also knew.

[Guest Host]

It's such a.

[Danielle Haim]

It is really.

[Alana Haim]

Essie had brought this jacket to my house. I knew that it was important if I know. First of all, I always never touch us these things, because Essie is very particular about her things. You learn people's triggers, you know, and you go on with life. I knew she loved this jacket. I was not touching this.

[Danielle Haim]

Right, right.

[Alana Haim]

She shows up to my house today. She goes, where's my jacket? Although I'm speaking for you, where's my jacket? And I go, it. I used a sentence that my mom has used since I was a child. I was like, did you leave it here? And she goes, yeah, I left it here. And I go, well, it didn't walk out of the house. I went, it didn't walk out of the house. And let it be known, it was.

[Guest Host]

Nicely hanged on a clothing rack.

[Alana Haim]

Hung.

[Guest Host]

Hung.

[Alana Haim]

But again, you guys bear with me. Also, I'm getting coffee in a second.

[Danielle Haim]

I think that's crazy.

[Guest Host]

Just went out to go to the viewers.

[Alana Haim]

I'm getting coffee. I will. My Go Go juice is on its way.

[Danielle Haim]

So, okay, when you did Woman in Music Part 3 tour, did that coincide with when you opened for Taylor at the Eras tour, or was it.

[Alana Haim]

No, we did the west coast and it was so fun because we got to watch the show every night.

[Danielle Haim]

I can. I'm so jealous.

[Alana Haim]

Watch it like 10 times in a row.

[Danielle Haim]

I mean, I saw you guys three nights in a row.

[Alana Haim]

I saw.

[Danielle Haim]

I went to LA three nights in a row.

[Guest Host]

It was the best.

[Alana Haim]

How fun was. Yeah, that was also the first time of my life. No, straight up, it was like, best tour. I mean, we got to be on the 1989 tour, which was also the best tour of my life.

[Guest Host]

I didn't get to see it.

[Danielle Haim]

I didn't get to see it. I got to see it. I didn't see live music at all until I like started like making money of my own.

[Alana Haim]

Wait, what was your first concert? Same with that. Yeah. Really?

[Danielle Haim]

I like, like, I went to a music music festivals. I would go to. Like, that's what I would save all my money for. So, like for Governor's Ball, I'd be like, okay, I'm gonna buy a three day pass to Gov Ball.

[Alana Haim]

Yes.

[Danielle Haim]

And then I would see like. Like, I think the only concert I saw was Azealia Banks when I was 14.

[Este Haim]

Yeah, like right when 2:12 came out.

[Danielle Haim]

No, no, no, no. It was way after. It was right when Broke with his expensive taste came out Terminal five.

[Este Haim]

Yeah, well, we copied passes and we also just snuck in. Like, we would climb over fences, right? Climb up trees. At the Greek, there's a whole. Like, you can. You heard it here first.

[Alana Haim]

I don't know. But this is also back at me. Like, it might have more security.

[Este Haim]

So when I was in high school, we would climb the trees in the back of the Greek and just watch the shows.

[Danielle Haim]

Oh, that's amazing.

[Este Haim]

Inside a tree.

[Guest Host]

Saw so many good shows. I wasn't old enough. I feel like KE came along. Kesha taught us how to do all this stuff. She would just be.

[Este Haim]

No fear.

[Danielle Haim]

Wait, really?

[Este Haim]

We've been Friends with Kesha since 2004.

[Danielle Haim]

Oh, wait, you told me this? I'm like, forgetting that we had a three hour dinner.

[Alana Haim]

She's the best. He met her the week she moved to LA when she was, like, 17.

[Este Haim]

When Kesha moved to LA from Nashville.

[Danielle Haim]

We the second time this has happened this week.

[Guest Host]

Well, you really let it chill, though.

[Este Haim]

I know.

[Alana Haim]

Because for me, I'd be like, oh, no. Oh, no. And you just let it rest.

[Este Haim]

Did you tap the top?

[Alana Haim]

No.

[Danielle Haim]

Am I supposed to do that? Yes.

[Este Haim]

That gets rid of it. You tap the top?

[Danielle Haim]

Oh, you tap the top. Did these, like, get delivered in a hurricane?

[Este Haim]

Oh, no. In a cyclone.

[Danielle Haim]

It's okay. It's okay.

[Alana Haim]

You know, it's okay. I like this attitude. Yeah, I like it. It's okay. We're just gonna clean it up and it's gonna be fine.

[Danielle Haim]

Hey. Thank you. I'm sorry. I don't know. Okay, so you've been friends with Casha since 2004?

[Este Haim]

We've been friends with Cash since 2004. I met her at a, like, a street festival in Silver Lake.

[Guest Host]

Chaka Khan was playing.

[Este Haim]

Chaka Khan was playing. She was like, I want to go see Shaka. I was like, I want to go see Shaka Khan.

[Alana Haim]

And so we holding this, like a cigarette. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Danielle Haim]

Your Gay pride straw.

[Alana Haim]

Let me tell you. Let me tell you about it, actually.

[Este Haim]

This would be a really sick.

[Danielle Haim]

Right.

[Este Haim]

So we went together.

[Alana Haim]

Let me help.

[Este Haim]

You held hands. We held hands.

[Danielle Haim]

How'd you guys meet, though? You just, like, ran into each other.

[Guest Host]

Literally at the festival.

[Este Haim]

One mutual friend, random mutual friend that I was seeing there.

[Guest Host]

It was called the Sunset Junction Festival.

[Este Haim]

Yeah. And I wish it was still.

[Alana Haim]

I'm like, mom, like, thank you. Let's get out of the shot. Okay. Yeah.

[Este Haim]

I had one mutual. Like, we had one mutual friend. I saw her and I was like, oh.

[Guest Host]

It was like love at first.

[Este Haim]

It was love at first sight. Completely. Like, have you ever had that with someone when, like, you see someone and you're like, I know that this is going to be my best friend.

[Danielle Haim]

Yes. And then they are. And it's.

[Este Haim]

And so all of my friends had moved to New York to go to college. So I had no friends. Dan Alondra were in high school.

[Danielle Haim]

Right.

[Este Haim]

I had no one. And I met. I meet this girl, and literally she was like, first of all, we go see Chocolate Khan. And then she goes, I just stole a bottle of Gold schlager from the liquor store. Do you want to just drink Gold Schlager with me outside of my apartment. And I was like, I thought you never asked. Yeah, I thought you would never ask.

[Danielle Haim]

That's kind of amazing.

[Este Haim]

So we got drunk on Goldschlager outside of her apartment on Sunset Boulevard. And then, like, there was a party at her apartment complex. There was, like, a Gravitron outside of her. Cause it was a street fair. She was, like, leaving on the apartment. Anyway, so. And then from there, she just taught us how to. We just hung out. And then I. I would bring Danielle and Alana to go hang out with Kesha also. And then we all became friends, right? And then I met all of Kesha's friends, and we just became this gaggle of gals that would run around Echo park, sinking in everywhere. I mean, alana was, like, 13.

[Alana Haim]

I had braces.

[Este Haim]

Danielle was 17, still in high school. And, like, I got them both fake IDs. I also had a fake ID, because I was.

[Danielle Haim]

You had a fake ID when you were 13?

[Alana Haim]

I had a fake. Well, also, my fake ID when I was 13 was not, like, it was an ID that both Essie and Danielle.

[Este Haim]

Had found on the floor.

[Guest Host]

No, it was a real idea.

[Alana Haim]

It was a reality that you guys got on the floor to have, like, passed through all the siblings. But it still said I was, again, 13. It said that I was 27.

[Este Haim]

Yeah.

[Alana Haim]

I'm sorry.

[Este Haim]

And it worked.

[Alana Haim]

I will show you.

[Danielle Haim]

I feel like it used to work way better back then. I'm like.

[Alana Haim]

Even with, like, four scanners and all that stuff.

[Danielle Haim]

The scanners, that's the issue. You're sneaking into shows today. You can't scan a new barcode.

[Alana Haim]

It was just, like, a bartender or, like, a. Like, a security guard. Security guard. Like, looking and, like, looking at you and being like, am I going to be mean or am I going to be nice?

[Danielle Haim]

Right.

[Alana Haim]

Like, sometimes it really did not work. Obviously, I had braces. Like, Essie would be like, don't open your mouth. But, yeah, no, it was. It was a wild, fun time. But, yeah, we would just. She taught us how to, like, sneak into concerts and stuff. It was really just, like, the Hollywood.

[Guest Host]

Bowl was especially, like, easy at the time. Wait, I don't think it is anymore, though. There was a bat.

[Alana Haim]

There was.

[Este Haim]

Let me break it down.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah.

[Guest Host]

Okay. Are you.

[Este Haim]

This. I. I don't think it's around anymore.

[Alana Haim]

It's not. Don't try because it's not around.

[Este Haim]

I don't think it's around anymore.

[Alana Haim]

This was 15 to 20 years ago.

[Este Haim]

Yes. Like, we. So we snuck in to see the Strokes and Tom Petty.

[Danielle Haim]

Oh, that's amazing.

[Guest Host]

At the Bowl.

[Este Haim]

Okay. And so this is what I remember happening back in the day. If you went early enough, it was unlocked.

[Alana Haim]

Okay.

[Este Haim]

This door leads to, like. Like, an electrical closet.

[Danielle Haim]

Got it.

[Este Haim]

Scary.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

There's tarantulas. There's, like, tarantulas. There's poisonous things in there. Whatever. But if you can brave it, which we did because we had no money, and I really just wanted to see the strokes. Anton Petty. You walk. Call it 20 paces. On your left hand side, there's a door.

[Alana Haim]

Uhhuh.

[Este Haim]

It's the door for the bathroom.

[Guest Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Este Haim]

The women's bathroom. In the bowl. You open it, you're in the.

[Guest Host]

You're in.

[Danielle Haim]

How close are you guys to the stage?

[Alana Haim]

Well, that was the point.

[Guest Host]

You don't have tickets, so you kind of have to, like, maneuver.

[Alana Haim]

This is the issue that they had with bringing me around is that I have a face for. You're not supposed to be here. Like, even to this day. Like, even to this day, like, I have crazy. Like, I just. I. I have no poker face. Like, And I've seen it. Like, I start getting, like, very sndl. Cool, calm, collective. Like, what just happened with the peach vibe? Like, it was like, we're gonna be fine.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah.

[Alana Haim]

Don't worry about it. We're gonna get it. And I think that in my mind, I'm like. I look so cool right now. Like, I'm gonna be. I'm just gonna get in. But, like, what's happening out here is, like, I'm literally, like, shaking. No.

[Este Haim]

Wanna start? Everyone's like, you're.

[Guest Host]

Something's wrong.

[Alana Haim]

They're like, something's wrong with you. Cool. What's up with your friend? What's happening over here?

[Este Haim]

What does not belong?

[Alana Haim]

It all came to a head. We went to see Prince at the Forum.

[Guest Host]

And before, like, the Forum was redone.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah, before the forms.

[Danielle Haim]

What was it like before it was redone?

[Este Haim]

It wasn't.

[Guest Host]

It was an actual arena.

[Este Haim]

It was an arena, and they just. I mean, honestly, they just really put in, like, a better sound system.

[Danielle Haim]

One got it.

[Alana Haim]

@ least that's what I think it was. There wasn't, like, a huge. It didn't. It's. It feel. It still has, like, its charm.

[Este Haim]

Yeah, like, it does.

[Alana Haim]

Like, Forum charm.

[Este Haim]

But, like, it just wasn't.

[Alana Haim]

But, you know, we, like, brought our parents. It was like, us and our parents and obviously our parents. Our parents.

[Este Haim]

Nosebleed. Nosebleed. Yeah.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah. We were, like, up in the. Up in the rafters, but our Parents also did not know what we were doing as children.

[Guest Host]

They didn't know that we were at this point because we went to the show what year?

[Este Haim]

This was, like, way later in 2009.

[Guest Host]

Nine. Yeah.

[Alana Haim]

We were like.

[Guest Host]

We've been, like, sneaking into places. My parents had no idea.

[Danielle Haim]

They would have been, right?

[Alana Haim]

They would. We would have. They would have killed us. They would have been like, you're gonna get arrested.

[Este Haim]

What are you doing?

[Alana Haim]

What are you doing? So we're, like, in.

[Guest Host]

Literally, like, we got tickets, and it was like in the nosebleeds. And then at the. Basically at the end of the show. I feel like, you can do a better Prince. I don't want it.

[Alana Haim]

Well, I have the bird's eye view.

[Este Haim]

Any of us can do a Prince impression. I'm not even gonna try. But what I will do is I will say what he said, which was, yes, if all the hot ladies in the audience. I want you on stage right now.

[Alana Haim]

And when I tell you. Okay, so, like, now. Now let's, like, go to, like, my perspective. So, like, I'm sitting here. My sisters are sitting next to me. I hear this happening. I look, I see my sisters. I turn back to Prince, and I go back. They're gone.

[Este Haim]

Yeah, we.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah, they have last sprinted, right. What do they do? They like me because they knew. You're going to keep with. You're going to hold us back, right? You're going to hold us back. My parents also. My parents basically held my arm, and they were like, you are not going. And I was like, here we go.

[Danielle Haim]

How old were you?

[Alana Haim]

I mean, I was like, in my teens.

[Danielle Haim]

You.

[Guest Host]

I think we're still in high school.

[Este Haim]

Nine.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Guest Host]

You were a senior in high school.

[Alana Haim]

So I am watching my sisters. Like, literally, it's like a ballet, right? It's. They're going, like, down to give you some.

[Este Haim]

Just what I was. For what I was wearing. I was wearing Jeffrey Campbell leaders.

[Guest Host]

Oh, yeah.

[Este Haim]

Do you know what those are? You know what they are, if you.

[Alana Haim]

Know what they are?

[Este Haim]

Like, can someone describe platforms that are laced up?

[Danielle Haim]

Oh, yes, I know. What a jet. Yeah.

[Este Haim]

Ankle boots.

[Danielle Haim]

Right.

[Este Haim]

Okay.

[Danielle Haim]

They were.

[Este Haim]

I mean, I saved up all my money, but I'm. But again, not really conducive to, like, sprinting, right?

[Alana Haim]

Yeah, no, no.

[Este Haim]

I was worried about my ankles, me and Danielle, but I did not care. We sprint down the stairs, and then at the Forum, there's, like. There's, like, the, like, seated seats up top, and then there's just, like, general seating on the bottom. But in Order to get down there, you have to get past the security guard.

[Danielle Haim]

Right?

[Este Haim]

We don't do that. I literally swing like, monkey bars. Me and Danielle both swing down onto the floor with my hands, land on both feet.

[Alana Haim]

It's like mission impossible. You were literally like, parkour.

[Este Haim]

To be fair, it was like. It was so chaotic because everyone in the arena was like, I want to.

[Danielle Haim]

Be on stage with Prince.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

So everyone's kind of doing the same thing, right? So, like, I would see a security guard go that way, and I'd be like, yeah, okay. Okay. And then finally, we get to, like, the purple velvet ropes.

[Danielle Haim]

Uhhuh.

[Este Haim]

And I'm like, we're on the floor. We're in, like, there was like. Like, the VIP was like the. The beehive, but for Prince. Yeah, the beehive. If you. Yeah, it was the beehive. So we're in the beehive, and I'm.

[Alana Haim]

Watching this, and my parents are having a heart attack. They're like, what is going on? But to be fair, they're doing what did it. We did.

[Danielle Haim]

You got on stage.

[Alana Haim]

This is what happens. I'm watching estie, like, a hug because I'm like, danielle, okay, here's the difference.

[Guest Host]

Between SD and I. Once we get into the circle, I'm like, we made it. We did it. I'm like, fine. I'm like, somehow just camouflage. Like, I'm just gonna watch the rest of the show from this inner circle.

[Danielle Haim]

Like, from the right, right?

[Guest Host]

No.

[Este Haim]

Come on stage. He said, hot, ladies, come on stage.

[Guest Host]

That's the difference between you and I. I watch.

[Alana Haim]

I was like, she is. It's honestly kind of like mission impossible. Like, you literally, really?

[Este Haim]

I was, like, triangulating.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

So there was, like, a production table. You know about production. There's a production table and then the stage.

[Danielle Haim]

Right.

[Este Haim]

Okay. I'm like, I have these leaders. They're giving me six inches. If I can get onto the production table, I can then hop on stage, Right? I can hop on stage.

[Danielle Haim]

And were there people on stage at this point?

[Alana Haim]

Yes.

[Guest Host]

They were getting.

[Este Haim]

And me and Dion were like, oh, my God. Please, like, give me your hand. No one was looking at us, so I was like. Need to take matters into my own hands. So I have. I'm like, okay, I've. I, I, I. I think I've done the math correctly. I'm gonna put one foot on this table, one hand on this stage, hoist myself up. Yeah, great. I do that one. Lita on the table, one hand on the stage, hoist myself up.

[Alana Haim]

She sees glory.

[Guest Host]

I'm like, I am watching, doing it.

[Este Haim]

DL is like, 20ft away from me, watching everything because she doesn't want to get on stage. Then I just get a hand.

[Guest Host]

I see the security guard just walk.

[Este Haim]

Up, like, and clock me hand in face. I fall backwards into more security, like.

[Guest Host]

Basically happening, like, next to me.

[Alana Haim]

I.

[Este Haim]

And I fall. I'm like an angel falling from grace.

[Alana Haim]

It's like that.

[Este Haim]

I'm literally, like this. And then they take. They, like, take me like this.

[Guest Host]

They basically, like, handcuff her.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

They, like, hold me like this.

[Alana Haim]

And then.

[Este Haim]

I kid you not, I'm going like this. There's, like, two security guards like this. I'm, like, hobbling. I'm like, no, let me.

[Guest Host]

Let me, Danielle. And meanwhile, I'm like, dancing. But then also, like, everyone else in the circle's like, who is that woman?

[Este Haim]

Do you know that woman?

[Guest Host]

And I'm like, no.

[Este Haim]

Literally could not.

[Alana Haim]

Watching my parents having. My mom is, like, crying, like, our daughter, she's going to jail. Like, what is going on?

[Este Haim]

They were like, what are you. Like, what were you gonna do? A prince. What were you gonna do? I was like, what are you talking about?

[Danielle Haim]

He said, hot girls.

[Alana Haim]

You were like. He goes like, ouch. He said, hot ladies on the stage. Out.

[Este Haim]

I took it personally. I tried to barter my insulin pump. I was like, you can have my insulin pump. Just please let me go back out there. They kept me back there, like, in quarantine.

[Danielle Haim]

And how late into the show was this?

[Este Haim]

There were probably, like.

[Guest Host]

It was like, another couple songs.

[Este Haim]

Yeah, but, like, I missed Raspberry Beret, which I really wanted to see.

[Alana Haim]

But you know what?

[Guest Host]

Glorious. You take a lot.

[Alana Haim]

You take chances.

[Este Haim]

I do.

[Alana Haim]

Me and Danielle don't change.

[Este Haim]

People that say yes have adventures.

[Danielle Haim]

Are you the most adventurous out of 100?

[Este Haim]

Yes, I absolutely think I take the most risks. That's for sure.

[Alana Haim]

Yes. I would say yes. Especially in. We need it, like, out of the three, like, what our jobs are in high. I'm like, SC is the one that's like, we can do this. We're gonna do this.

[Este Haim]

You just need to go.

[Alana Haim]

We just need to go do it.

[Este Haim]

Those worst that can happen, then it's a no.

[Alana Haim]

Yes.

[Danielle Haim]

Right?

[Alana Haim]

I wish I felt for me. For me. I know. It's like, I am gonna crawl into a ball. Like, I can't take rejection well.

[Este Haim]

No can be chic sometimes.

[Danielle Haim]

Really?

[Este Haim]

No can be. Well, if you're saying it.

[Danielle Haim]

Oh, no. It's so chic.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah. No, when you're Saying. I'm just saying sharing it makes me feel bad.

[Guest Host]

But it was a complete sentence.

[Este Haim]

And it's the shortest, chicest word in the English language.

[Alana Haim]

But you. Maybe Essie hears no. Essie hears no. And is like, I'm gonna get on stage with Prince.

[Este Haim]

And now I really want to.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah, now you want.

[Este Haim]

Now I really want to do it. I almost did. And then from then on, like, we would be around Prince ending and I would. There was one time where he was at the Brit Awards and we were there and he came towards me.

[Alana Haim]

I had to physically restrain us because he was presenting to our. To our. To me and Danielle's credit, he was literally about to present an award. And as he was trying to go.

[Este Haim]

I was trying to talk to Prince.

[Alana Haim]

And I had to physically, I was like, essie, he's doing a job. And she was like, Lily. I was like, I had to put all my pressure on it. And I feel like to this day she's bringing up because she's still mad at me.

[Danielle Haim]

How mad were you in the moment?

[Alana Haim]

She was so mad.

[Este Haim]

So pissed.

[Guest Host]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

So pissed. I was like, I could have literally told him how much he means to me. 2 second span of time. It felt very Kathy Hilton at the. The fashion show. Very. At Sutton's fashion show.

[Danielle Haim]

Got up and spoke to Sutton again. It was Kathy.

[Alana Haim]

No, Kathy came in and she was talking to someone's mom, I think, and she was saying, like, it's so, so good to see you, and that models are coming.

[Este Haim]

And that's what Daniel and Alana didn't want to happen.

[Danielle Haim]

Right.

[Este Haim]

But I totally would have done that.

[Danielle Haim]

That I. I would have the same thing as well.

[Este Haim]

Right.

[Danielle Haim]

And when did you guys start? It was 2009 or 2000.

[Alana Haim]

2007.

[Este Haim]

2007.

[Danielle Haim]

But you were in a band before.

[Alana Haim]

Yes.

[Danielle Haim]

One of you was also in a band. Do you remember?

[Guest Host]

I toured a lot. Like, I was in Jenny Lewis's band. Right. And I was in Julian Casablanca's from the Strokes's band.

[Danielle Haim]

That was it.

[Guest Host]

Yes, yes, I was. And I was like 20. I was like the best job of my life.

[Danielle Haim]

Right.

[Guest Host]

I toured the world with another band.

[Este Haim]

It's okay. I was in college. Alana was still in high school.

[Danielle Haim]

And then how did you guys, like, get together and start?

[Alana Haim]

Well, it was Danielle. Danielle. When she.

[Este Haim]

By the way, we've had people ask us how we met.

[Danielle Haim]

No, you haven't.

[Alana Haim]

Yes, yes.

[Este Haim]

I swear to God.

[Alana Haim]

Very smart people.

[Danielle Haim]

Like, what do they say?

[Guest Host]

No, but not only that, it's like, it's Fine. If someone asks if they have no context, but, like, it was someone who was, like, trying to work with us in the music business.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

Literally was like, we had a meeting.

[Alana Haim]

With somebody, and after, like, an hour and a half of talking to them, they were like, so how did you guys meet? And we were like, this is not. I thought it was like, a. I thought I started laughing because I was like, sisters. And he. We were like, what do you mean? And he was like, well, how did you guys meet? You obviously started a band together. Like, what. How did you meet?

[Este Haim]

And I was like, we came out of the same vagina.

[Alana Haim]

We're sisters. And then he was like, oh, also, I feel like we look alike.

[Danielle Haim]

You do look alike, right?

[Alana Haim]

I don't know. I feel like we don't look that much different.

[Este Haim]

Like, one of us didn't put an ad on Craigslist with a photo.

[Alana Haim]

It'd be like third sister searching for a band member. Yeah, no, but.

[Guest Host]

No, but we basically officially switched. Started when I was a senior in high school, and I kind of knew I didn't want to go away for college. I wanted to do, like.

[Alana Haim]

Well, you didn't get into college. Both you and me didn't get into college.

[Este Haim]

Nice try.

[Danielle Haim]

How many colleges did you guys apply to?

[Alana Haim]

I. Well, my parents wanted us to go to. I see. Went to college. So, like, my parents. I don't remember.

[Este Haim]

I graduated.

[Alana Haim]

She's the genius of the family.

[Danielle Haim]

It's such a hard school to get into.

[Este Haim]

It's a really hard school.

[Alana Haim]

Me and Danielle, we were like, I. Well, Danielle was a senior when I was a freshman, and didn't. Danielle. Basically, we never went to school. She was my carpool driver. She was my carpool driver to school. We never.

[Guest Host]

I just knew I didn't want to go to college. But, yeah, I was. Alana's. I was. Drove carpool when I was a senior and Alana was a freshman, and I just basically, I would, like, drop the other kids off, and I'd look at Alana, be like, do you want to go to Star? Literally, it was like, Starbucks.

[Alana Haim]

We don't even do anything fun. We would just sit at Starbucks.

[Guest Host]

Starbucks. And, like, read magazines.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah. That was all we did.

[Este Haim]

We were just way better than starting class.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah. We didn't even, like, now at this point, I'm like, I feel like I should have gotten to class more, because I really did. I know. She. Which is so funny, because I feel like, Danielle, you would be, like, the.

[Guest Host]

Person that would have. No, I hated school. So we were like, in a family band with our parents. But we never wrote songs. Our parents were never songwriters. They just loved the act of, like, playing covers with us, like, in the living room, like.

[Este Haim]

Yeah.

[Guest Host]

And we played shows, but it was always for charity. So, like, it was kind of an epiphany. I was like, wait, I think I want to try writing a song with my sisters. So it was really us starting to write songs that we were like, well, maybe we should perform them as a band in la. And I had just graduated high school, and so for. From basically 2007, which is when I graduated high school, and then until we got signed in 2012. So for basically five years, we just gigged in LA, like, anywhere we could get gigs. Every venue, like, every parking lot. Every parking lot. Parking lot, yeah. Troubadour. And a lot on the east side.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah. The smell, the Echo, Silver Lake.

[Guest Host]

The satellite.

[Alana Haim]

Satellite.

[Este Haim]

We played a pancake breakfast, which was.

[Guest Host]

Called Spaceland, early in the morning, like.

[Este Haim]

Seven in the morning.

[Guest Host]

I mean, the Roxy, like, anywhere. And also anywhere that would have. Honestly, I forgot how many times we played the hotel cafe. I passed by on Kanga. There was a. Like, oh, my God. How many hotel cafes?

[Este Haim]

10 or 15.

[Alana Haim]

We would open up for anybody that would just let us open up for them. I was like, we would never headline.

[Guest Host]

We honestly headline a show and headline a venue in la.

[Alana Haim]

No one wanted to give us, like, a headlining spot.

[Guest Host]

Yeah. But it wasn't until we finally released our EP that we started getting attention. And then it was, like, easier to book shows and then basically got signed out of the UK first. Not even in America. No one here wanted.

[Alana Haim]

No one wanted to sign.

[Danielle Haim]

Was it online attention?

[Guest Host]

It was basically, like, the online attention that helped us eventually get signed.

[Alana Haim]

Because it wasn't.

[Guest Host]

We were just, you know, what was it?

[Alana Haim]

Tumblr?

[Guest Host]

I don't know.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah. I feel like we were like.

[Danielle Haim]

There was so much music.

[Alana Haim]

But no, our song started getting played. This, like, lovely, amazing woman named Marianne Hobbs, who was a DJ on XFM in the uk, found our ep.

[Guest Host]

It was like a free ep.

[Alana Haim]

We just put it for free. We were like, yay. And she started playing on the radio. She started playing one of our songs called Better off on the radio in the uk.

[Guest Host]

I mean, while we were playing, four people in la Day.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah, Right.

[Alana Haim]

And.

[Guest Host]

But, like, all of a sudden, getting.

[Alana Haim]

We were like. A lot of people from, like, England are liking our, like, yeah, MySpace, like, what time is so weird.

[Guest Host]

Oh, my gosh. So we ended up playing the Great Escape, which is like, the south by Southwest of the uk. It's in Brighton. And then that was it that we. We got signed out of the uk, but still no one in America wanted to sign us. Yeah, it wasn't until the next year that America was. The labels here were kind of like, oh, we should sign this band.

[Danielle Haim]

But did you feel like. Were there ever. Was there ever a moment where you're like, well, not to be like, whatever, because it's your album title now, but where you wanted to quit?

[Alana Haim]

Oh, my God. We wanted. Honestly, we were Delulu Bears. Like, I. When I think about it, I'm like, we really just had this, like, fire in us that we were like, we're going to do this as hard. Like, we're just going to keep going. Until were bleeding. Like, until, like, blood comes out of our eyes. Like, we just never wanted to stop because we had so much fun playing live. We were like, we were happy to have day jobs and play live on the weekends. Like, that was, like, a happy place. Like, the fact that we got to go on tour was such a gift. And, like, when we got signed, like. But when I say, like, when we were playing all those venues in la, like, there was never a point where we were like, we don't want to do this anymore. We were, like, just happy to play.

[Danielle Haim]

Right.

[Alana Haim]

I was, like, working at Crossroads Trading Company as he was working at Wasteland and Essie. I mean, as you worked at the Cheesecake Factory Daily Grill. The counter. I know, the counter is so good.

[Danielle Haim]

I Honestly, Yes, I've been.

[Alana Haim]

It's the. Build your own burger. Cheesecake is like, oh, cheesecake is amazing.

[Danielle Haim]

What was your cheesecake order?

[Alana Haim]

Oh, I know mine.

[Este Haim]

As a diabetic again, shout out to my diabetics. I love the Oreo cookie. Cheesecake is my favorite. But I was talking about this the other day. I. So I worked at the one in the. @ the Glen at the Sherman Oak Galleria in Sherman Oaks. And back in the day, it was attached to.

[Alana Haim]

Well, still.

[Este Haim]

There's still a movie theater there. But back then it was like the Arc Light.

[Danielle Haim]

Oh, I passed this.

[Alana Haim]

No, it was a Pacific Theater. It was a Pacific Theater. I was the queen of the Galleria, Essie. It was a Pacific Theater.

[Danielle Haim]

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[Este Haim]

Also, if you work there, you get free soup and free bread. The entire.

[Danielle Haim]

Like you.

[Este Haim]

You literally, like, you have carte blanche. You can just go back there and every day was a different soup.

[Danielle Haim]

Oh.

[Este Haim]

So I lived on that soup. I loved the. Oh, the cheddar. No, the clam chowder.

[Danielle Haim]

Yum.

[Guest Host]

When you were a hostess at the Cheesecake Factory, like, it was such a. It was like so fun to go there with my friends.

[Alana Haim]

And it was so cool.

[Guest Host]

It was the coolest thing that you were the hostess there.

[Alana Haim]

Why?

[Danielle Haim]

Because it'd be like, I'll bump you up on the list.

[Alana Haim]

No. As he would give us free French fries. Yeah. And Coke.

[Guest Host]

Free drinks.

[Este Haim]

Because there would be. We had to go cups. So I would give, like, I would make Shirley Temples for Alana.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

And all of her friends.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

All come in like 20 of her friends.

[Alana Haim]

Notoriously, no dudes ever wanted to make out with me in seventh grade. So having a sister that worked at the Cheesecake Factory, like, I would. I would somehow think that like my sister working in the Cheesecake Factory is gonna get these dudes to think that I'm cool. So I would bring, like all the hot guys and I'd be like, st. Can you just. She'd be like, again, Alana. Oh, really? Bringing 25 people here.

[Guest Host]

25, like 13.

[Alana Haim]

13 year old boys with braces. And I'm like, just. Just this. What's this, please? This one. Give me some French fries. And who.

[Este Haim]

And I did.

[Alana Haim]

She did. Every time. She did every time. I feel like we were in a fight like two seconds ago and I didn't like it. I apologize.

[Este Haim]

Fine.

[Alana Haim]

But I. But I just. I just. I don't want us to fight anymore. I feel like you're stand. You're, like, literally, like closing yourself off to me right now. I see it. I'm.

[Danielle Haim]

You guys had to make up.

[Alana Haim]

I know we're making up. We made up.

[Este Haim]

Give me my Go Go juice and maybe I'll feel better.

[Alana Haim]

Okay. You deserve it. Thank you. You deserve it. Have a sip. Okay. You can talk about your. Your story that you want to say.

[Este Haim]

So, okay, so on Valentine's Day, what I did. Because Cheesecake Factory doesn't take reservations. No reservations.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

Genius.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

So these men would come in at like 5 on Valentine's Day. It's February 14th, like the day of love. You've known that. It's this day.

[Alana Haim]

It doesn't change.

[Este Haim]

It's the same day every single year.

[Danielle Haim]

Right, of course.

[Este Haim]

And all the girlies were all. There were like five hostesses because it's a giant restaurant. We're all standing there and we start to see these men coming in being like, okay, I know that it's like a 30 minute wait, but is there any way that like.

[Alana Haim]

Like, it's.

[Este Haim]

I know it's Valentine's Day and like, I have a. I have a movie at the Pacific Theaters that I really have to make. And if. If it's a 30 minute wait, I can't go. And we were like, okay, they were leveling you.

[Alana Haim]

Like, I didn't make a reservation.

[Este Haim]

Yeah, well, because there is no. You can't make a reservation.

[Danielle Haim]

She's getting three.

[Este Haim]

So they're like, is there any way. And I, like, us. We were. At first, we were like, sure, okay, sure. I'll, like, try to get you in 20 minutes earlier. And then by like six, me and all my gal pals were like, what the fuck?

[Alana Haim]

Like, how dare you not get a reservation?

[Este Haim]

Magical. Magical ladies. Yeah, like. And like, you could figure out the movie, but you couldn't figure out a reservation. I'm Sorry, no more. And then when the. When the men would come up and be like, oh, can you please? We'd be like, so this was what I started saying. There's a menu, it's really thick. There's a lot of things to buy. The Cheesecake Factory, you're gonna open it, you're gonna put a hundred dollar bill in there, and then you're gonna give it back to me. And then we'll see how quickly I can get you a reservation. How many men do you think did that that night?

[Danielle Haim]

I. How many?

[Este Haim]

23 men. No, 23 men. I made 2300.

[Alana Haim]

But I had to split it with.

[Este Haim]

The other gals because it was for all of us.

[Guest Host]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

I'm a team player.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah. No, but we actually. Because I. I was, I. I knew that this happened, but we just ran into Estes.

[Este Haim]

Carolyn. Shout out to Carolyn.

[Alana Haim]

And she was like, remember Valentine's Day? Like, it's like a thing that everyone. Like, remember what we did on Valentine's Day?

[Este Haim]

We made these men suffer.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Danielle Haim]

And did you get in trouble for it?

[Alana Haim]

No. No. They never found out.

[Danielle Haim]

That's beautiful.

[Este Haim]

No. And you know what?

[Alana Haim]

Get a reservation. Get a reservation for your significant other on Valentine's Day.

[Este Haim]

Make a reservation.

[Alana Haim]

Make a reservation. Don't go to the Cheesecake Factory.

[Este Haim]

You're gonna pay.

[Alana Haim]

And you know what? No, like, or go to the Cheesecake.

[Este Haim]

Go to the Cheesecake Factory. Absolutely. But, like, they're early.

[Alana Haim]

Get there. Have a plan. Early. Have a plan. A plan.

[Este Haim]

I was like. Anyway, so I made a lot of money that night, and I think I bought a Michael Kors purse with the money. I went to Macy's and I bought my first, like, Michael Kors purse.

[Guest Host]

Yeah.

[Danielle Haim]

All from. We love Michael Kors.

[Este Haim]

Tears. Men's tears, Men's sadness.

[Danielle Haim]

Wait, so who. Which of you lived in New York again?

[Guest Host]

I just did a stint in New York.

[Danielle Haim]

No, but, like, early on. Didn't you live in New York for a minute?

[Guest Host]

I lived in New York a little bit when I was touring with Julian because he's kind of like Mr. Manhattan.

[Danielle Haim]

Right? Like, cuz the cheese factories remind me of. Did you ever go to Halen Hardy?

[Guest Host]

No, I wasn't that deep. I heard about it. Isn't there, like. There's like.

[Este Haim]

What is it?

[Danielle Haim]

It closed down.

[Este Haim]

Is it. Was it a chain?

[Danielle Haim]

Yes, it was a chain. It. The soup and sandwich place.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Danielle Haim]

It was awesome. I know. We're such.

[Guest Host]

We really want to be New York girl. I mean, I'm speaking for myself.

[Danielle Haim]

Oh, it's the greatest soup in the world. It was the greatest soup in the entire world.

[Alana Haim]

Y' all love soup.

[Danielle Haim]

Where's your favorite soup in la?

[Alana Haim]

She makes. Honestly. Oh, wait. What is your favorite soup in la?

[Guest Host]

O. I love the Viet noodle bar. Chicken pho.

[Danielle Haim]

Where it's.

[Alana Haim]

It's an at Water.

[Guest Host]

It's an AT Water.

[Este Haim]

But there is one on the west side, too.

[Guest Host]

I think there is too.

[Alana Haim]

Controversial statement. I don't like soup. What? I know. It's crazy. It's weird. I don't like. I don't know what it is about. It's just too hot.

[Guest Host]

I only like hot beverages. Like, even if it's hot outside, I want a hot coffee.

[Alana Haim]

I. There is not.

[Este Haim]

That's where. That's where you guys.

[Danielle Haim]

But. But I respect. I respect it.

[Este Haim]

Yeah.

[Danielle Haim]

Like, it could be 100 degrees out and you'll be having hot coffee.

[Alana Haim]

Yes. She's one of those people.

[Guest Host]

I wouldn't have, like, a hot coffee. I'd have like an. A hot espresso. If it's, like, boiling and I need some caffeine. Like, I wouldn't. You know what I mean?

[Danielle Haim]

You know, actually, that technically cools you down.

[Este Haim]

Yes, it does. It cools you down, cuz Raises your. Your core temperature or something.

[Danielle Haim]

Yes. And then it's like you're not as hot as It's.

[Este Haim]

Something weird goes outside.

[Alana Haim]

I can't. I can't. I can't.

[Danielle Haim]

Somehow feels colder.

[Este Haim]

Yes.

[Danielle Haim]

S. Yeah, cuz your core is so.

[Alana Haim]

I know you guys went to school. We need help.

[Danielle Haim]

We did go to school and we graduated.

[Alana Haim]

We need help. Me and Danielle. We need help.

[Este Haim]

It's okay.

[Danielle Haim]

Wait, so I'm. How. Tell me about the album title then. I quit.

[Alana Haim]

I quit.

[Este Haim]

Well, so you go first.

[Alana Haim]

Okay, I quit it. It's kind of been like a sister inside joke since we were, like, children. Oh, that's sweet, because we watched this movie. I don't know if you've seen. Have you seen that thing you do? Okay, everybody go watch. Go watch that thing you do. It's an amazing movie. Tom Hanks, it's.

[Este Haim]

He wrote it.

[Alana Haim]

He wrote it.

[Este Haim]

He directed it.

[Alana Haim]

But it's about this band. Like, we were also, like, young girls that, like, loved watching movies. I mean, it's like you love watching movies about, like, musicians. Like, I love Almost Famous. I love that thing you do. But it's about a band that comes together, they write a song called that thing you do, and it skyrockets through the charts. They get number one. There's like a. There's a Liv Tyler's in it.

[Danielle Haim]

And I always think that I love her leftovers.

[Este Haim]

I mean, I love hbo.

[Alana Haim]

And we're back.

[Danielle Haim]

Hbo, the Leftovers. I just finished Leftovers. Life changing.

[Este Haim]

She's so good. Yeah. So thorough.

[Danielle Haim]

The hottest person on God's green earth.

[Alana Haim]

You guys are gonna need to offline about that.

[Este Haim]

We'll offline about it.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Danielle Haim]

He's sexual.

[Este Haim]

It's weird because I'm sort of friends with him, but. No, I know. I'm sort of. Sort of.

[Danielle Haim]

Like, we have a lot of mutual.

[Este Haim]

Friends that I've hung out with him a couple times, and, like, I've had conversations with him.

[Alana Haim]

Nice. Nice man.

[Este Haim]

Maybe saying friends is, like, one step too far, but I do know him.

[Danielle Haim]

He's. He's everything to me.

[Este Haim]

He's everything.

[Danielle Haim]

He's everything and he's nice.

[Alana Haim]

He seems it.

[Este Haim]

He's so nice. He seems so nice.

[Danielle Haim]

Like, the scenes of him getting out of the bathtub butt naked.

[Este Haim]

Like, don't spoiler.

[Alana Haim]

I need to watch you guys.

[Danielle Haim]

He's, like, lathered in, like, water, oil. His abs are like.

[Este Haim]

And bubbles for.

[Danielle Haim]

Oh, my God.

[Este Haim]

I know.

[Danielle Haim]

Like, oh, my God. Okay, well, he's running down.

[Este Haim]

Don't you even.

[Danielle Haim]

He's running. His bulge is, like, swinging back and forth. No, you guys, I'm clutching my pearls like, it is like, I watched that and I rewinded. I was like, did I just see what I think I saw? Yes. I'm, like, gonna be sick thinking about it.

[Alana Haim]

We're adding another thing for me to.

[Este Haim]

Watch, so thank God for hbo. Max.

[Danielle Haim]

No, thanks.

[Guest Host]

But any you guys, any Mad Men fans out there?

[Alana Haim]

Yes.

[Danielle Haim]

I never got behind it. I don't know why. My parents were like, how could you not?

[Alana Haim]

It was.

[Danielle Haim]

And I was like, you know what?

[Este Haim]

I'm sort of with you. I did love the show. I did love the show, but not as much as the Leftovers.

[Danielle Haim]

The Leftovers, like, changed my perspective on life. Yes. I was like, oh, my God. Yes.

[Este Haim]

Really in concept for us.

[Danielle Haim]

And, like, also, like, have you ever met a sadder character than Carrie? Carrie Coons on that show? Never. I'm like, my life is great.

[Este Haim]

Honestly. That was also the reason I watched season three of White Lotus. She killed it.

[Danielle Haim]

She's phenomenal.

[Este Haim]

Is. I've never met her. If Carrie, if you're watching, I also want to be your tangential friend. Like, Allah, Justin Throw. Like, we can be at that level. And I'll be fine.

[Danielle Haim]

Like, you guys. Like, you will be sick, too.

[Este Haim]

I know.

[Alana Haim]

I love how it has started this.

[Este Haim]

Whole, like, I love. I mean, live Tyler is also just such a babe.

[Danielle Haim]

Oh, the hottest.

[Guest Host]

Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Este Haim]

Can I have a water?

[Guest Host]

Yeah, we can.

[Alana Haim]

Y', all, we're literally screaming. Has there ever been a more chaotic episode?

[Danielle Haim]

No. This is an instant classic already. I'm telling you right now. Literally, she's, like, geeking out.

[Alana Haim]

Okay.

[Este Haim]

Tell us if we're being.

[Danielle Haim]

This couldn't be more perfect if it tried, like, really truly. I'm like, like, happy. Okay, great. Okay, great.

[Este Haim]

I know you would tell me.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah, I would.

[Alana Haim]

I know you would tell me.

[Este Haim]

Like, get it together.

[Alana Haim]

Okay, so let me explain our album title. Let's go.

[Danielle Haim]

Sorry, Justin.

[Guest Host]

Yeah, okay.

[Alana Haim]

Okay. So our album title starts with this movie called that thing you do live Tyler. We stand. But there's this scene at the very end where Jimmy, who is the lead singer of the Wonders, the band in this movie, he's told by Tom Hanks to make a song that's peppy and.

[Guest Host]

Snappy because they're basically a one hit.

[Alana Haim]

They're a one hit one.

[Guest Host]

You need another hit.

[Alana Haim]

You need another hit. We want something peppy. We want something sappy, right? And Jimmy wants to notoriously, like, do, like, a song that's sad and slow. We hate Jimmy. We love the actor, but we hate Jimmy as a character. And he comes up to the mic, and it's like one of those hanging mics. So it's like this. Yeah, it's like this. He's a Capitol record studio. Hold it. And he goes, okay, ready?

[Este Haim]

I. I'm trying to get a good angle.

[Alana Haim]

Here we go. I. I quit. I quit. I quit. I quit. Mr. White. And it was like, a thing that me and my siblings, honestly. Thank you. Yeah. That was awesome, you guys. If you watch the movie, you're gonna be like, that was a perfect representation, right? I'm a set designer. Set design was great, but basically, like, growing up, when we would have to, like, check a mic or we would, like, be in the studio, like, checking out the mic, we would always say, I quit. I quit. We would, like, sing the song. And so while we were making this album, we started doing that. And then one day we were like, why don't we just, like, for the. Like, for right now, let's name it I Quit. Like, let's just, like, put it as the file working title. I quit. And then once we were listening, like, finally, when all the songs were done and we were listening back to all the songs, all of the songs had, like, it was like, we were quitting. Something that would make our lives better. Like, every song kind of has this, like, one thing where it was like, oh, we quit that while we were making the album. And then we, like, looked at each other, like, should we name the album? I quit? And it, like, kind of took on.

[Guest Host]

And it kind of made us laugh, and if something kind of makes us laugh, we're like.

[Alana Haim]

I mean, our last album was women in music, part three. Like, it made us. This one made us laugh. And that's what we know that, like, things are, you know, in the right direction.

[Danielle Haim]

I love the album. I love my. I'll tell you my two favorite songs.

[Alana Haim]

Tell me right now.

[Danielle Haim]

Love you right? Oh, and cry.

[Alana Haim]

Oh, my God.

[Danielle Haim]

Cry's my favorite. Cry's my favorite.

[Alana Haim]

I sing that one. Wait.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah. It's my favorite on the album.

[Alana Haim]

It's the first time I was like.

[Danielle Haim]

This was my favorite sd.

[Alana Haim]

That's the first time Estie's singing lead.

[Danielle Haim]

That's my favorite.

[Guest Host]

It's so good.

[Alana Haim]

It's gonna.

[Danielle Haim]

It's my favorite. Love you write and cry. Those are my two. And the whole album's incredible, but those two really, like, hit for me.

[Guest Host]

Oh, I love that.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah. It's beautiful.

[Guest Host]

Thank you so much.

[Danielle Haim]

Like, Cynthia, it's, like, cool.

[Este Haim]

It's. Yes. I mean, I put, like, talk about, like, tears. Lots of, like. Lots and lots and lots of SD tears went into making that song.

[Danielle Haim]

Do you. Did you write it all yourself?

[Este Haim]

No, no, no, no. We write everything together.

[Danielle Haim]

Okay.

[Este Haim]

But we.

[Alana Haim]

Studio very upset that day.

[Este Haim]

After kind of getting a really shitty text from an ex that I hadn't spoken to in a long time.

[Danielle Haim]

Why was it so shit or like, a week ago? We can cut it. I'm just kind of curious.

[Alana Haim]

I think he.

[Este Haim]

He basically. He basically was like. I basically caught him cheating, and I told all of his friends that he cheated on. And then he was like, you're a piece of shit for not keeping this. Like, no. Just, like, what? You're such a. Like, you're so immature. Like, why did you have to, like, tell everyone and, like, air out this dirty laundry? And I was like, are you kidding me?

[Alana Haim]

Yeah. He could buy a billboard and put his face on it and say cheater. She was.

[Este Haim]

Yeah, I totally would. I mean, I would never give him that sort of energy, as he doesn't deserve it. But it really, like, cut me in such a way where I. Because I was already, like, grieving this. I had just found out. This was, like, months after we had broken up, But I had just found out that, like, he was cheating on me the entire time.

[Danielle Haim]

Right.

[Alana Haim]

Really bad.

[Este Haim]

And so I was just like. I was confronted with that. And then on top of that, to then get a text from him that was like, you're the piece of. You're. You're the problem.

[Danielle Haim]

Right.

[Este Haim]

I was like. I was like, I can't believe you're turning this around on me.

[Danielle Haim]

Right.

[Este Haim]

In what world? So I just came in and I was like, I can't stop. I was just literally could not stop. And it was.

[Alana Haim]

Me and DL Were like, put it in a song. Like a movie. Yes. I was like, here's the mic. Go for it. Yeah. Okay.

[Este Haim]

So literally. So anyway, so.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

And then I cried.

[Danielle Haim]

Then you wrote cried, and then she.

[Este Haim]

Cried, and then she wrote a song about it.

[Alana Haim]

And then.

[Este Haim]

And honestly, I know that a lot of artists talk about it, but, like, it really is the most cathartic thing.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

To do is to, like, just get it out and, like, write about it, sing about it, talk about it. I'm lucky that, like, as collaborators Danielle and Alana, I don't think any of us are ever like. Like, we don't poo poo anything. We're never like, absolutely not. It's like, try it, and then you can hear if it works or not. And, like, so we always are just experimenting in the studio and. Yeah. I mean, that's all of our music, I think.

[Danielle Haim]

So wait, what year was this?

[Este Haim]

This was 20.

[Guest Host]

22 to 3. Yes. And 3 and 3.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Guest Host]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

The end till the, like, beginning of 24.

[Danielle Haim]

Wasn't that the theme of your birthday?

[Alana Haim]

Yes.

[Este Haim]

Yes and no.

[Guest Host]

I have. I've never been more single. I kissed a bunch of hot men.

[Alana Haim]

Yes.

[Danielle Haim]

Wait, did that guy we were talking about come?

[Guest Host]

Oh, my God.

[Danielle Haim]

I don't remember.

[Este Haim]

Wait, which guy?

[Guest Host]

No, I don't think so. I don't.

[Danielle Haim]

You know exactly who I'm talking about.

[Guest Host]

He didn't. Okay, I think I remember who you're talking about.

[Alana Haim]

Well, no. Yeah.

[Guest Host]

No, no, no.

[Alana Haim]

But Danielle. Danielle was like. Danielle thought, like, Danielle's DMS are open. You guys. Can people just slide into Danielle's?

[Guest Host]

The way in which, like, I don't know.

[Danielle Haim]

Mine are dry as. I don't even. I'm like, why?

[Este Haim]

What's going on?

[Alana Haim]

Amazing people, like, you guys need. What is happening is when I start.

[Danielle Haim]

I don't know if you're the same way. When I start talking to someone and they start giving me the time of day, I'm like, I'm over it.

[Alana Haim]

Oh, no, I'm not Like that, like.

[Este Haim]

Literally, like, no, I want to be wanted.

[Alana Haim]

Danielle's serial monogamist, but. Right. I think the universe is telling you that you. I mean, not to be like, so universe, but like, I feel like the universe is telling me you need to be single.

[Guest Host]

I need to be single.

[Alana Haim]

Sure.

[Guest Host]

Fine.

[Alana Haim]

Danielle's like, fine, I'll take it.

[Danielle Haim]

Single for.

[Guest Host]

Since 2022.

[Danielle Haim]

Oh, you're fine.

[Guest Host]

I know. No, I woke up, like, three mornings ago, actually, just being like, you know what? I'm actually so excited for single summer. I'm excited. I'm ready. I'm ready. Look how I'm ready.

[Danielle Haim]

It is Lord. Summer.

[Guest Host]

It's everything.

[Alana Haim]

Summer.

[Danielle Haim]

It's all the summers. Like, it's a yearning summer. Yes, I'm ready to yearn.

[Alana Haim]

I love that.

[Este Haim]

And for someone to yearn for you, by the way, and for you to accept that someone is yearning for you.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah, but I just, like, I get the ick.

[Alana Haim]

I know.

[Danielle Haim]

So easily.

[Alana Haim]

I know.

[Danielle Haim]

I got it the other day, and I was like, God damn it. When did you meet your loving fiance?

[Este Haim]

Loving fiance? I met my loving fiance in 2023. So I was basically single for a year and a half.

[Alana Haim]

As he got swooped, I did quick.

[Este Haim]

I did. But listen, the time before I met my fiance was real fun. Oh, it was really, really fun. I loved it. We wrote many, many a song about. About it. But then I met. I met my fiance, and he's the best, and he's really one of the good ones.

[Alana Haim]

One time down one, I'm down. Two to go.

[Danielle Haim]

Two to go.

[Este Haim]

Yeah. Not uncuffing this one.

[Danielle Haim]

No, no. Is that what relationships is about?

[Alana Haim]

Relationships is more like towards, like. Well, actually, relationships was for women in music Part three, we started.

[Este Haim]

It's an older song.

[Alana Haim]

It's an older song, but like, some songs on albums, I mean, I feel like everyone kind of goes through this, but, like, there's always, like, a problem child. Like, there's always, like, one song that you can't get right. And relationships was, like, so hard to figure out. But we knew it was a good song because we loved it so much. And we just, like, there's like 17 versions of it or, like 18 versions of it. And then we brought it to Ross Dam, our producer, and we. He, like, helped us organize our thoughts about it. But, yeah, no, it took a long time to get that song right up and running. But, yeah.

[Danielle Haim]

Okay, question.

[Alana Haim]

Okay.

[Danielle Haim]

Did you guys. And this is so off topic. I'm so sorry, but now that I have you here, I have to Ask Tell Me Evermore is my favorite Taylor Swift album of all time. Did you guys do Nobody no Crime in studio with her?

[Alana Haim]

No, it was co.

[Danielle Haim]

But that is my favorite Taylor Swift album of all time.

[Alana Haim]

It's amazing.

[Danielle Haim]

That and 1989, Taylor's version, those two are like my, my, my things. But I remember listening to more with like, my mom when it first came out, and so I'll just never forget that.

[Este Haim]

It was such a special record.

[Alana Haim]

It's such an honor to be, like, in her universe.

[Danielle Haim]

That is crazy.

[Alana Haim]

Crazy and so fun.

[Danielle Haim]

Okay, another question you guys were talking about in that. In the movie. What is it? That's just how it is.

[Alana Haim]

That thing you do. Honestly.

[Danielle Haim]

You'Re writing a movie?

[Alana Haim]

No. Should we write a movie called that.

[Guest Host]

Is How It Is?

[Danielle Haim]

That is just how it is.

[Alana Haim]

How It Is.

[Este Haim]

That's just how it is.

[Danielle Haim]

That is just how it is.

[Alana Haim]

It's kind of like he's just all that into you.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah.

[Alana Haim]

Or that's just how it is.

[Este Haim]

And just.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah. And just like that. That's just how it is.

[Este Haim]

Then that's the tagline is like, hey.

[Danielle Haim]

Babe, wait, we should.

[Alana Haim]

And that's how it is. You heard it here first.

[Danielle Haim]

You did hear it here first.

[Alana Haim]

That thing you do. Yes.

[Danielle Haim]

And they. And they talk about they're a one hit wonder. When you guys first popped off and like the Wire really took off, was there ever like a fear that, like, oh, we're not gonna top this?

[Alana Haim]

Oh, my God, no. Did it. Did the Wire pop off? Yeah.

[Guest Host]

Good, good question.

[Alana Haim]

No, honestly, like, with our first album, we were just so excited to have it. I feel like I keep on saying where we're so excited. Like, we genuinely were just so excited to get out of LA and be able to do this as a job. Like, the amount of, like, gratitude and happiness music has brought all three of us and the fact that we can do it together is, like, mind blowing. I mean, think about my parents. They're like, I don't even know how my parents deal. They're like our, our girls, they're together, playing music. Like my parents, it's their dream. Like, they're extremely proud and amazing. I love my parents, but it's just been like the best. Like, when I remember, like, this feeling that I had putting out Days Are Gone is like the same feeling that I've had with every single album we've put out. Like, it. It's never lost on me, like, how insane that we get to put out albums. So, like, I'm. We're just like, in this, like, fun euphoric zone of, like. Because we've been working on these songs on this album for, you know, a couple years now. And, like, now the fact that you even said, like, that you love cry and. Yeah, it's love you. Right. I'm like, oh, my God, I can't believe you heard it. Like, it's just like, I haven't wrapped my head around that yet. But it's the best. It's so fun. It's like the best job ever.

[Danielle Haim]

I really want to see a show.

[Este Haim]

Oh, my God.

[Alana Haim]

Come to the Forum, babe.

[Danielle Haim]

When is it?

[Alana Haim]

October 9th.

[Danielle Haim]

Oh, I'll be there.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah, everybody come. It's gonna be so fun.

[Danielle Haim]

Great. And then what else was I. Oh, well, I do want to ask you guys what you're therapist about.

[Alana Haim]

What I'm therapist about?

[Danielle Haim]

No, sorry, before that. You're working with Terry.

[Alana Haim]

Yes. What's that?

[Danielle Haim]

Like, he's the greatest of all time Terry.

[Alana Haim]

For. It feels like forever we've been friends with him.

[Guest Host]

When Benny and Terry moved to la, Benny reached out to us to do, like, a Halloween.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Guest Host]

During COVID During COVID Like a Halloween.

[Alana Haim]

He was Halloween.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah, I did. I did think I saw that.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

He did like, a hocus pocus themed video in the middle.

[Guest Host]

Alana was filming her couldn't be in.

[Alana Haim]

It because I was film. I was filming licorice pizza and I was like, in a Covid bubble doing that. And so then such huge fans of.

[Guest Host]

Benny just online and so he, like, came over. We had never met him before.

[Danielle Haim]

He's the best of all time.

[Alana Haim]

He's the best.

[Guest Host]

And Terry was with him and Terry was filming it and we just, like, struck up such a great friendship with them.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah.

[Guest Host]

Yeah. And so, yeah, that was like, we've been like, working together now for.

[Este Haim]

I love them.

[Alana Haim]

We just love somebody that, like, loves our references just as much as we do. Like, well, we text Harry. Like, I text Harry more than anyone on this plan. I feel like he responds fast. He responds. So I'm like, when do you sleep? I don't know what's going on. But no, like, he. Any type of idea that we have, like a cuckoo crazy idea is just like, so game. Like, the best. The best person ever. So nice to have someone that's like, let's do it right.

[Danielle Haim]

And did he. Is he, like, creative directing? Like, what's he.

[Guest Host]

Yeah, I mean, he's been taking our single photos based on iconic paparazzi.

[Este Haim]

We have the same references. So, like, we'll send him, like, we Sent him that.

[Guest Host]

That Kate Moss.

[Este Haim]

Kate Moss infamous photo. And he was like, oh, yeah, got. You got say, like sales, right?

[Guest Host]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

And. And the Nicole Kidman.

[Guest Host]

Yes.

[Danielle Haim]

Oh, psychotic.

[Guest Host]

Yes.

[Alana Haim]

And the stars.

[Guest Host]

So nice to like, be creative with someone.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Guest Host]

Like, who has your same references. And again, like, he's like, let's just shoot it. We were like, well, should we get a photographer's like, I can do it. We're like, oh, my God, he is so talented with everything. And it's just. Just so nice. Like, he's the best to have.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah. Him and I. I wish I could be in a relationship with him and Benny.

[Este Haim]

I know. We talk about it all.

[Alana Haim]

I wish that I could just be like, can. Can I just live with you guys? Like, I don't know, can you be roommates? It's like they're the perfect.

[Este Haim]

The perfect couple.

[Alana Haim]

Couple. I'm like, I will never. Also, it like, gives me hope in life. Like, I'm just like, they seem like actual puzzle pieces, so.

[Danielle Haim]

They are. And their wedding's going to be amazing. Whenever that may be.

[Alana Haim]

We've already said we're DJing. We're playing.

[Este Haim]

We're playing.

[Alana Haim]

I'm. We're official. Like, I don't know, star studded star.

[Este Haim]

Like a lavender farm with them.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

That's what I think. Like, how I feel like we all.

[Alana Haim]

Need to start to move to a lavender farm with.

[Este Haim]

So good.

[Alana Haim]

I know. Becoming.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah.

[Alana Haim]

A lavender farm. I like that.

[Danielle Haim]

I used to have like a teddy bear that I would heat up in.

[Este Haim]

The microwave and then.

[Danielle Haim]

Lavender.

[Este Haim]

Lavender.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah.

[Alana Haim]

Soothing.

[Este Haim]

So soothing.

[Danielle Haim]

Okay, what are you guys therapist about?

[Alana Haim]

Oh, my God. What are we pissed about? Therapist about? I'm therapists that we're not gonna be together for a long time. Like, I feel like I'm not gonna see you. I know.

[Danielle Haim]

I'm kind of sad about it now too.

[Alana Haim]

I know. Like, I feel like we just, like, scratched the surface.

[Danielle Haim]

Little Doms was the first.

[Alana Haim]

Yes.

[Danielle Haim]

Now we're like the second layer.

[Alana Haim]

I know.

[Danielle Haim]

Like, we're almost at that third.

[Alana Haim]

I feel like we all. We, like, we have so much to talk. We have a whole lifetime.

[Danielle Haim]

Well, you know, we're about to get into gossip central.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Danielle Haim]

Right after this. I have been thinking about. I'm so pumped.

[Este Haim]

I have two stories. Insane story.

[Danielle Haim]

Oh, I'm ready.

[Este Haim]

Two insane stories.

[Danielle Haim]

I'm ready.

[Este Haim]

You will not even believe.

[Danielle Haim]

Oh, you know what? I probably will. Yes. I probably will.

[Este Haim]

Okay, great.

[Danielle Haim]

So should we get into the tell me what's wrongs?

[Alana Haim]

Yeah, sure.

[Guest Host]

Oh, my God. Here we go. Okay.

[Danielle Haim]

I've asked my boyfriend multiple times to stop liking bikini and thirst trap pictures of other girls on Instagram. He always says he wills, but then he always says he will, but then continues to do so. I don't think he's doing anything with other people, but it hurts my feelings and especially with the girl when the girls don't look anything like me. Help.

[Alana Haim]

Wait. Okay. We have all dealt with this issue.

[Guest Host]

Yes and no.

[Alana Haim]

It is crazy. Stop doing that.

[Guest Host]

I agree.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah. What's the point?

[Alana Haim]

Not, okay, what are they looking? And then when you bring it up, when you bring it up, it's so gaslighting.

[Danielle Haim]

They're like, what do you say?

[Guest Host]

And it's just like, I just like.

[Alana Haim]

What'S the big deal? What's the big deal? I'm like, like, like. No. Like, all the pictures are gorgeous. I mean, the women are amazing and gorgeous. Like, women.

[Este Haim]

The women are beautiful.

[Alana Haim]

Like, I'm like, can we not do that?

[Danielle Haim]

It makes me see it in their likes. Like, do you, like, see likes by always.

[Alana Haim]

We follow the same people. Yeah, I can see the name. Like, we're not doing it secretly if it makes you feel uncomfortable. And they don't understand where you're coming from because that's like a very.

[Danielle Haim]

It's a way of flirting.

[Alana Haim]

Yes.

[Este Haim]

I think.

[Alana Haim]

I think it's cheating.

[Este Haim]

And I do think where there's smoke, there's fire. I know that you're saying, I don't think things going on. I think that's like the first step of three steps to the cheat zone.

[Alana Haim]

Yes.

[Este Haim]

Do you know what I mean?

[Alana Haim]

Like, the actual, like the baby.

[Danielle Haim]

Did your ex do that ever?

[Alana Haim]

Yes.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

He gaslit me and he was like, what's the big deal? Why is that a problem? I'm not doing anything.

[Alana Haim]

You feel like you're crazy.

[Este Haim]

How is that doing anything wrong? I'm not touching anyone. I'm not talking to anyone. I'm not like, why is that wrong?

[Alana Haim]

It makes me upset. But so I.

[Danielle Haim]

That's right.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah, you're right. You're right.

[Este Haim]

And I was.

[Alana Haim]

Get out of there.

[Este Haim]

Get out of here.

[Danielle Haim]

So break up.

[Alana Haim]

You'll find somebody that will not do that. Okay.

[Este Haim]

I think breaking up is. You don't want to be rash. But I do think that it's worth.

[Alana Haim]

One last taking a look at it.

[Este Haim]

Just being like, listen, this really, really bothers me. Bothers me. And as someone that I think is my partner, like, we're partners here. We're on the same team. You should be able to just Be like, you know what?

[Alana Haim]

It's easy.

[Este Haim]

Really affecting my partner. I'm gonna. I'm. I'm gonna look at myself and I'm going to stop. And if they do that, continue on, that's great. That is the mature thing to do.

[Alana Haim]

If they.

[Este Haim]

If you say it one more time and they don't do it, then I think you kind of have to look at it and be like, get out of there. Why? Why am I wasting my time on someone that isn't going to take my feelings into account?

[Danielle Haim]

Right.

[Alana Haim]

100.

[Danielle Haim]

Agreed.

[Este Haim]

God, I could be a therapist.

[Danielle Haim]

You could. You really could.

[Este Haim]

Am I calming?

[Alana Haim]

You are calling me. You're lavender.

[Danielle Haim]

Beyond.

[Este Haim]

I'm lavender.

[Danielle Haim]

What would you guys prescribe for that?

[Alana Haim]

For what?

[Danielle Haim]

Like that. What would you suggest that she watch or listen to?

[Alana Haim]

Oh, listen to?

[Este Haim]

I quit.

[Danielle Haim]

Yes, we prescribe. I quit.

[Alana Haim]

Honestly. We have a scribe.

[Guest Host]

Good one.

[Alana Haim]

I will make you want to scream out loud.

[Guest Host]

Good one. Good one.

[Danielle Haim]

I'm deeply, deeply, deeply in love with my sister's best friend and have been since we were in high school. It's a classic sibling relationship, though. Like, she would rather die than see that happened. I already tried kissing her once and it didn't go well. I'm coming back from college for a family event she'll be at. Do I shoot again or leave it? Oh, maybe leave it.

[Guest Host]

Yeah, I think leave it.

[Este Haim]

So they shot their shot and it didn't work.

[Alana Haim]

And it didn't work.

[Este Haim]

Okay, if it didn't work, then I think you leave it because they're gonna have to come to you.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah. The ball is in the other person's court now. Yes.

[Danielle Haim]

Jake, my roommate, brought her new man over after a breakup and hooked up in my room while I was in class. The picture of me and my boyfriend was knocked over on the floor. Confront or combust?

[Alana Haim]

Confront. Both.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah.

[Alana Haim]

That's crazy. Wait, why can't they go to their.

[Danielle Haim]

Room with, like, a bad roommate in college?

[Este Haim]

No, my roommates were actually really sweet. Yeah, I had really.

[Alana Haim]

It seems lucky.

[Guest Host]

They were really very lucky.

[Este Haim]

They respected my things. But I had very. I did have very respectful roommates. This is a whole other.

[Alana Haim]

Just like. Like, I would not want to be in on the mattress knowing what went down. Like, it's like. It's not even just, like, a clean the sheets kind of situation. Like, there's a mattress involved.

[Danielle Haim]

You want to hear something crazy? One time my friend got back from a weekend away, and she went to her room and. Oh, God, I hope I'm telling the story right. She Sat down on her bed.

[Este Haim]

Oh, I'm gonna throw.

[Danielle Haim]

And it was. It was. It was wet.

[Alana Haim]

It was wet.

[Danielle Haim]

Like, the whole thing was wet. Her roommate's brother slept in the bed. Peed all over the bed and just left it.

[Guest Host]

That is so not.

[Danielle Haim]

She was like, wait a. What are you.

[Alana Haim]

No.

[Danielle Haim]

The entire bed was soaking wet.

[Alana Haim]

I would be. I don't even know what I would do.

[Danielle Haim]

How crazy is that?

[Alana Haim]

So she probably knew the brother.

[Danielle Haim]

She was like, bleep it. Like, what the Are you. What's wrong with you? And she's like, I'm sorry.

[Este Haim]

Oh, sorry.

[Alana Haim]

Okay. The one thing I will say is, like, if I was her, I would. By the time my friend came back, if I knew that my brother had pissed in my best friend's bed, I would have gotten a mattress there. Like, I would have made it. Like, it would have been Amazon immediately. Like, I was Internet taking the cost. My brother got too drunk, peed in your bed. But I got you a new map. Maybe even bump it up 1. Get a nice mattress or at least.

[Este Haim]

A new mattress pad.

[Alana Haim]

No.

[Danielle Haim]

People are disrespectful.

[Alana Haim]

That's crazy.

[Danielle Haim]

Like, one time, my best friend Brett had a birthday party in her college, like, house, and she. She came downstairs crying, and we were like, oh, my God, Brett. Like, what happened? 20 people were over for the pregame. 20 girls were over for the pregame. That's it. The party hadn't even started yet. Hysterically crying. Somebody on her bath mat.

[Este Haim]

You're lying.

[Danielle Haim]

No. Took a. I have a photo of it on her bath mat. We looked around the room like, no. We were in a game of clue. Like, who the.

[Alana Haim]

Wait, hold on.

[Danielle Haim]

We have our assumptions.

[Este Haim]

Friends, wait.

[Danielle Haim]

Everyone always asks about how to maintain long distance relationships, but what about long distance friendships? I'm moving to college soon and want to stay in touch with my girls.

[Alana Haim]

Oh, it's just calls.

[Guest Host]

FaceTimes.

[Alana Haim]

Calls.

[Este Haim]

Yeah.

[Alana Haim]

We're always on the road.

[Este Haim]

Every relationship we have is a. Is a long distance relationship. Basically.

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

Friendships, romantic relationships, parents.

[Danielle Haim]

Right.

[Alana Haim]

I feel like calls go a very long way. Like, I feel like you can text. Text. Text is always nice. Like, text it and check with text and check in with your friends. But, like, my real friends call me and, like, we have, like five hour conversations. Like, and it's like, very comforting when you're not home to still have, like a nice phone call or a FaceTime. It feels better. So text, but also call.

[Este Haim]

And I think, I do think, I do think that, like, planning break, like, when you're On a break in college, planning and being like, listen, I can't. I can't come in to back home over the winter break. But, like, let's do something spring break. Like making a plan. Yeah. So, like, so then you have something to look forward to.

[Alana Haim]

Yes.

[Este Haim]

Like, it's always kind of like in the back of your mind, like, okay, like, three more weeks, finals will be done, and then I get to see Samantha right back. You know, we're gonna go to Cabo.

[Danielle Haim]

I've never been Cabo.

[Alana Haim]

Oh, my God. Yeah, you should go.

[Danielle Haim]

I need to go.

[Este Haim]

So close.

[Danielle Haim]

What did you guys do before, like, FaceTime?

[Alana Haim]

Oh, my God.

[Guest Host]

I was just thinking. I was like, with my college friends, I would do the. The one on.

[Este Haim]

There's like a thing.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Este Haim]

Too.

[Danielle Haim]

I chat.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah.

[Danielle Haim]

You would do the effects.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah. We used to have the, like, really bad. I mean, it never worked, but there was like an AOL one that you could use, like the first generation camera and like a little. Or. But best Buy. It never looked good, like, when we were, like, babies. It never was.

[Danielle Haim]

Do you remember when you would do eye chat, though, and you would be able to see if someone else was already busy on FaceTime with someone else?

[Este Haim]

Yeah, it would say. It would say, they're busy. Like, who are they talking to?

[Danielle Haim]

Yeah. And like, but if you saw both of your friends were busy without you and they wouldn't like, oh, my God.

[Alana Haim]

You're like, I'm gonna call somebody right now.

[Este Haim]

I'm getting three way call.

[Danielle Haim]

Because they could let you out.

[Alana Haim]

Yeah, they didn't want to. That's annoying.

[Danielle Haim]

I honestly, honestly forget.

[Este Haim]

No, I don't think there was three way calling like that back then.

[Danielle Haim]

This has been amazing.

[Este Haim]

Okay.

[Danielle Haim]

Okay, well, I have one last question for you guys, and I already know the answer. Okay. What did we learn today?

[Este Haim]

That this is probably the most fun we've ever had.

[Alana Haim]

I know.

[Danielle Haim]

A lot of fun, too.

[Alana Haim]

I could do this for the next.

[Danielle Haim]

Will you come back for your next album?

[Alana Haim]

Yeah. Yes. Okay. We'll just come back when we're bored. I'll just be like, I'm here, please. I'm just gonna move in here. This is a nice, cozy, really have fun tour.

[Danielle Haim]

I do want to come on tour, but I want to come to, like, a random city and, like, vibe out.

[Alana Haim]

Yes. Oh, my God.

[Este Haim]

You say when.

[Danielle Haim]

Okay. Well, Streamheim's new album, I quit, out June 20th. And thank you guys for coming on the show.

[Alana Haim]

We love you.

[Danielle Haim]

Give it a.

[Alana Haim]

Give a little.

[Danielle Haim]

Bye.

[Alana Haim]

Bye.