B (2:19)

It was just like, it was like the safest place to black out. I woke up, everyone just texted me, you're good.

C (2:24)

No. Like, no.

B (2:25)

And I was like, great. I was like, great.

C (2:28)

You wake up the next morning to like a bunch of texts are like, you were amazing last night, by the way.

B (2:31)

Yeah. And I was like, oh, my God, girl.

C (2:33)

That performance was a 10 out of 10. There's Oscar buzz everywhere. Everywhere, everywhere, girl.

B (2:38)

Spirit. Speaking of Oscar buzz, or maybe Grammy buzz.

C (2:40)

Sure.

B (2:41)

Your new album, bite me comes out August 1st.

C (2:43)

Thanks, baby.

B (2:44)

I'm so excited. I just listened to it.

C (2:46)

Thank you. Did you listen to the whole thing?

B (2:47)

The whole thing?

C (2:48)

Oh, okay.

B (2:48)

You have.

C (2:49)

Okay, you have the whole thing, front to back. Oh, wait, duh. If you have. Sometimes.

B (2:52)

Yeah, sometimes. It was my favorite. And you were saying, who could. Who had to convince you to put.

C (2:57)

That one on so many people? Sometimes was. I was like, I really like it. But I wasn't. I was like, I don't know, some songs, like, come to be a part of projects really late, like, which I've found, I guess. And sometimes was one that, like, had been around for a minute and I was like, I mean, I with her, but I don't love her. And then we changed a bunch of the, like, verses. Okay. There's only two. So we changed, like, we changed. I like, we changed, like, all seven. We changed some of the verses and then I started to like it a whole lot more.

B (3:40)

It's really good.

C (3:42)

Thanks, baby.

B (3:42)

The chorus, what I like about it is the chorus goes somewhere that I didn't think it was going to go.

C (3:46)

Yes.

B (3:47)

You know what I mean? Like, it goes and then the notes change and I was like, you know, that's how I felt. And then I listened to it back again and then I played it for everybody in the house for a third time.

C (3:56)

Love. No, the hook does make you like, oh, my. Just jumped, you know, hey, yo. Yeah, it's good.

B (4:04)

And Good girl. But you said, I love Good girl because I'm.

C (4:06)

You love Good girl because you're a straight white woman.

B (4:09)

Yes.

C (4:09)

Like, you at your core is a straight white girl.

B (4:12)

I am.

C (4:13)

You are.

B (4:14)

I am.

C (4:14)

That's totally fine. By the way. I'm about two out of the three.

B (4:17)

Right.

C (4:18)

But I like when you said, I like Good girl, I was like, of course you do. That's like, that's. Of course.

B (4:23)

Of course.

C (4:24)

Straight girls love Good girl.

B (4:25)

And I do.

C (4:26)

I do too.

B (4:26)

By the way, the album itself is just phenomenal.

C (4:30)

Thank you, baby.

B (4:31)

It really is phenomenal.

C (4:32)

Thank you.

B (4:33)

Why is she still here? Unbelievable.

C (4:35)

Why is she still here?

B (4:36)

It's just like, you know how to rock a ballad.

C (4:39)

Thanks. I really. One thing about me, I love a little ballad.

B (4:43)

Where's. What? Like, how long did the album take to make, though? Like, when did you start working on it? Post Snow Angel.

C (4:50)

We started, like, recording new songs. In this. Nope. November of 2023.

B (4:59)

Wow. So two years.

C (5:01)

Yeah, two years. Long ass process. Long ass process. But I also just like, I, you know. Well, you know, like, I feel like you understand this being so Close to me. Everybody's always like, oh, wait, like, when are you putting out the next thing? Like, what are you doing next? Like, when's, like, your next song? Like, what's your next. I'm like, you bought yourself another six months. Never ask me to put out ever again. Which is not that anybody's doing anything wrong. I just hate being told what to do. So it took a long time because I'm stubborn, but it also took a long time because I really. I was like, I don't want to impress anybody but myself, right? And so, like, if I'm impressed with it, then I can put it out. Because, like, impressive is, like. I think it's. I think it's. It can be easy to do something impressive. It can be easy to sound impressive. It can be easy to, like, make a big, like, singing hook that's fun or, like, something, like, catchy. Obviously, it's hard, but I think it's easier than you actually loving something that's much harder.

B (6:07)

And do you feel like when everyone was like, well, when's the next thing? You're like, okay, well, now I'm just gonna push it back, Just to push it back.

C (6:12)

Absolutely, yeah. Yeah. It just pisses me off so bad. Not necessarily, like, like, fans of mine, more so just like, other people being like, okay, and this is what you're gonna do now. And this is what you're gonna do now, right? And I'm like, and what are you doing? And so what the Are you doing? Do you want to write it?

B (6:29)

Right, exactly.

C (6:30)

Do you want to write it? Oh, my God. Wait, Go. No. So, yeah, it definitely made me a bit stubborn, but again, I did just. I wanted to be so obsessed with.

B (6:40)

What I was doing, and you're obsessed with it.

C (6:42)

I'm so. I love it.

B (6:44)

I love it too.

C (6:44)

I love it. I used to think that was, like, an egotistical thing to say to be like, I love my. But, like, I genuinely. I love this album so much. It's so important to me.

B (6:53)

Who told you that? That is an egotistical thing. You're supposed to love your work.

C (6:56)

I guess so, right? I just. I never used. Contrary to popular belief, I never used to be good at complimenting myself or thinking that anything I was doing was good enough. And I still. As. I was just saying, like, I don't feel like anything is good enough ever. But this is probably the closest I've felt to that.

B (7:13)

Do you do. Would you remember the final song you put on it, and you were like, it's done.

C (7:20)

Bro. The final song that we put on it was. You'd like that, wouldn't you? Because I was like, I don't know. We made it when I was in Nashville, and it was, like, the last, like, writing trip that we took, and I was just kind of, like, pissed the whole time. Just. I was just depressed, and I was like, I, like, want to be done with this, but I feel like we need something else. So then I had that song for months, bro, and I'd never even heard it. And then Julian sent it to me and was like, this kind of gas. And I was like, bro, shut up. Like, pack it up. Like, no way. And then I was like, this is kind of gas. I was like, wait, it's kind of good. So I think that was the last one. And then the last one we wrote was. I think I like you better when you're gone.

B (8:10)

I love that one. I love the whole album.

C (8:12)

Thanks.

B (8:12)

It's really, really just.

C (8:14)

Thanks, sweetie. Yeah, me too. I'm very. I'm very. I'm really happy with it. It makes me, like, excited to go and go and, like, sing it. Like, I actually really enjoy singing the songs that I've made, which is nice.

B (8:28)

So you're excited for tour?

C (8:30)

I'm definitely excited for tour, yeah.

B (8:35)

Yeah.

C (8:37)

We're depressed on tour, right? You and I. I mean, I was.

B (8:40)

Texting you, like, it's crash out number four today, of course.

C (8:43)

And I'm like, yeah, absolutely. Like, it's the most. Like, it's. You're so incredibly surrounded, and you feel so simultaneously lonely.

B (8:52)

I think it's just also, like, you. I feel like you and I are similar in the sense that, like, you are so honest. Right. So, like, if you are feeling a type of way, like, you want to get up on stage and just be like, I don't feel. Feel good right now.

C (9:07)

Right. I want to kill myself.

B (9:08)

I want to kill myself. I'm mad.

C (9:09)

Yeah.

B (9:10)

And sometimes on tour, you can't do that.

C (9:13)

Well, yeah, you should. You shouldn't.

B (9:20)

You could.

C (9:21)

I might. I might. I may have, and I might again.

B (9:25)

But you know what? I think that's right. And it's like, you want to make sure everybody's having fun and happy, and sometimes you feel the weight of everyone wanting to have fun and. And you're like, oh, my God, do I just kill myself?

C (9:37)

Yeah. You're like, maybe.

B (9:38)

Yeah.

C (9:38)

Probably even wire.

B (9:40)

How long is the tour?

C (9:42)

Not that long. Not that long.

B (9:45)

But it's big. It's like.

C (9:47)

It's fine.

B (9:47)

It's big.

C (9:48)

Yeah. It's not that long though. I think it's only a couple weeks.

B (9:51)

That's not that bad.

C (9:52)

My other. My first tour.

B (9:54)

That was long, bitch. That was long.

C (9:58)

I was on the road for about, like, ages. I was like, oh, God.

B (10:02)

I was like, wait, where is the night? They're like, on tour. I was like, still?

C (10:04)

Yeah. You're like, wait, wasn't that, like, fun? Five years ago?

B (10:07)

You were on tour.

C (10:09)

I was on tour, but you were on tour.

B (10:10)

Yeah.

C (10:11)

And are you even done?

B (10:12)

I'm done, okay? I'm done. I need a break and I want to write and live my life.

C (10:17)

I also think touring is touring is a talent. Like, you have to have a lot of stamina, mental and physical to go through tour. Because I think, like, what you're saying, it's like, it. You are absolutely allowed to, like, feel how you ever you want to feel at every show whilst also knowing that, like, people are be there. Okay. God bless me, people. No. Okay, go. Yeah, go off. People are gonna be there and they wanna. This is maybe their first time seeing you. Right, Right. So you wanna give the best performance for a concert goer that you possibly can. It's people also, like, when you up. Let me just. So that's my point being is like, people like when you bring some to the table, like, I. The worst shows of mine, somehow internally, somehow always end up being someone's favorite. And somebody's like, oh, my God, I absolutely love that show. I'm like, interesting. I was like, really considering taking myself out with a rifle two minutes before. I'm so glad that you had fun. But genuinely, I am glad you had fun. I was like, how on God's Green did you enjoy that? Enjoy that, right? But that's like, okay, take it. People like, when you up. People like, when you're like, see, that's.

B (11:33)

The opposites happen to me. I've left the stage, like, that's bad. And somebody will DM me and be like, rough one. Yeah.

C (11:40)

Also, like, I'm sure that people are doing that to me too. I just don't look right.

B (11:46)

Okay. Oh, right.

C (11:48)

I just don't look at that shit. Because if I see it, then out of mind. Yeah.

B (11:53)

Are there any songs that you're retiring from last tour that people are going to be like, pissed off about?

C (12:00)

Oh, my God.

B (12:01)

Because you would know what.

C (12:05)

And I will. I. Damn, man. I don't know. I. I feel like I always say, too well is done for and then I bring it.

B (12:16)

You hate that one.

C (12:17)

I hate that.

B (12:18)

Why? I love that song.

C (12:20)

So, like, to me, it's just like. I don't know. It's like, yeah. Like.

B (12:25)

Yeah.

C (12:26)

I don't know. But I. That was never my favorite. That was never my favorite song. The only fun part about it now is that people know how much I dislike it.

B (12:37)

Right. So you go like, this is the worst. I hate.

C (12:39)

Yeah. And then they're like, yeah, they know. Oh, my God, she fudgeing. Hates it. Well, this is my moment to shine.

B (12:44)

Right? Right.

C (12:45)

And right you are.

B (12:46)

Right.

C (12:46)

Right you are. But I don't know. I'll probably. I. I don't know. I don't know, man. Everybody's like, what's the set list for tour? Like, what are you thinking? I'm like, I fucking know. I don't know.

B (12:56)

Have you started rehearsals?

C (12:57)

Absolutely not.

B (12:58)

Of course. And cheers to that.

C (13:02)

Absolutely.

B (13:02)

Absolutely. And when does four start? September.

C (13:05)

Yeah, I think it's. Oh, no, I know when it starts because it's my best friend's birthday. September 23rd.

B (13:09)

Okay.

C (13:10)

Yeah.

B (13:10)

Where la. Where does it start?

C (13:12)

Colorado.

B (13:13)

Great. I love Colorado.

C (13:14)

I love Colorado.

B (13:16)

Are you going to Seattle at all? Seattle was my favorite stop on tour. Am I. Whoa.

C (13:23)

I'm confused. Have you never seen me do that? Whoa. I do it a lot.

B (13:28)

That is intense.

C (13:30)

It's like a. Oh, let me take a beat. Oh. But I. Yeah, it is jarring. I'm sure. To the.

B (13:36)

No, it's amazing. I wish I could do something like that. You have gorgeous eyes.

C (13:39)

Thank you, sweetie. So do you.

B (13:40)

Thank you. It's my favorite part about myself.

C (13:42)

Is it your eyes? You do have really good eyes.

B (13:45)

So much.

C (13:45)

But you know what you have. Oh, dare I say even better.

B (13:48)

What?

C (13:49)

Brows. You have such a nice eyebrow.

B (13:51)

I used to take razors when I was a kid and shave the middle of my brow and break out naturally.

C (13:55)

So did I. Huh. But no, you have a really. A really nice brow. It's like a honey blonde.

B (14:00)

Thank you.

C (14:01)

Loving it.

B (14:01)

Thank you.

C (14:02)

Yeah. Loving it.

B (14:03)

What is Toa's favorite on the album?

C (14:05)

Toa's favorite. Okay. I don't know. No, it's probably. At least I'm hot.

B (14:11)

Yeah.

C (14:12)

Given her star moment. I don't know. Toa's favorite is why is she still Here?

B (14:22)

I love that one.

C (14:24)

Yeah. No. Yeah.

B (14:27)

Speaking of that song, how did you perform Sunday?

C (14:29)

Oh, my God. Because we were out the night before.

B (14:31)

Yes. And Julia was like, renee has this acoustic set at the Nice Guy. I looked at Julie and I said, sorry, Right? We were out till 5am yeah. And you did it.

C (14:42)

I Mean, it was at 8 the next night, at least, but I was shaking like a horn. Church. I was shaking like a whore in church. Yeah, I was definitely db But I actually know. You know, I come to think I don't know how I did that. I wear sunglasses when I perform a lot.

B (14:59)

Right. Do you, like. Do you. Do you feel like, Like. Well, I was about to say I don't think you ever had stage fright. I was like, because you grew up on the stage.

C (15:09)

I have had. I actually. Well, interestingly enough, I was really nervous on Sunday, but I think that was just me being hungover. Or it could have been the. The fact that I just hadn't, like, sang any of those songs before.

B (15:23)

Right.

C (15:26)

Which was maybe it. Because I feel like also this album is, like, much harder vocally for me than the other one.

B (15:32)

It's. You go on runs.

C (15:34)

Yes. There are, like, a lot of tiny little, like, acrobatics and intricacies that I don't. I didn't have in my first album, which I think my first album was, like, louder and higher and bigger and more of these, like, singing hooks. And this is smaller in a way. The hooks are smaller, which I think.

B (15:50)

Is actually more difficult, but they're a little more intricate.

C (15:53)

Yeah, definitely. Definitely. So I'm like. I'm thinking, right.

B (15:56)

I'm think like, you're going on these runs, but they're softer, which sounds to me harder.

C (16:01)

Oh, no, it's 100 harder.

B (16:03)

Was it hard to record?

C (16:05)

Oh, death was on my mind every. Every. Every day.

B (16:09)

Right? Absolutely.

C (16:10)

Death was on my mind every day. I, like. I was like. We just. We did. We cut every song so many times. Every song saw so many different. Every key that you could even possibly think of in music. Jesus, Mary and Joseph. It was everything. Everything. So, yes. It was literally so hard to record.

B (16:33)

You know what moment I remember you that you knew you ran over your head.

C (16:35)

What?

B (16:36)

Do you know what I'm going to say?

C (16:37)

No, I don't know.

B (16:38)

The beach trip.

C (16:39)

Beach trip.

B (16:41)

Toa held a baby. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

C (16:45)

Oh, my God. That was everything.

B (16:46)

I remember you called me. Tweaking, tweaking. I know. And I just brought you back there.

C (16:52)

I'm having heart palpitations thinking about it. That was crazy.

B (16:57)

Yes. I was like, oh, she's down bad.

C (16:59)

No. I was like, this is.

B (17:00)

And she wouldn't text you back?

C (17:02)

No, she was. She was playing with my mind. I was like, I'm sorry. We just held a newborn together. What's your problem? I was like, oh, My God, I love you.

B (17:10)

Yeah.

C (17:10)

Hello. I was like, wait. And now I'm, like, seeing you hold a kid on the beach, and I'm about six months pregnant myself, and biologically, how. His grace. His grace. I was so whacked out. I remember.

B (17:28)

I know, and I'm really happy I could just bring you back to that feeling.

C (17:31)

Oh, my God. Leave it to a baby, right?

B (17:35)

Whoa.

C (17:36)

Leave it to him.

B (17:36)

I remember the photo, too.

C (17:38)

I'm lightheaded. I'm thinking of the photo.

B (17:40)

Yeah.

C (17:41)

I was like, wait. We look so good with a kid together. You trying to make one?

B (17:44)

Yes.

C (17:46)

Let's try harder. But we're almost there.

B (17:48)

We're almost there.

C (17:49)

Almost there. Yeah. Whoa. I whacked the out, and.

B (17:54)

And then. And then it just. All I remember is I called you and you were like, yeah, we're together.

C (17:58)

Yeah. I was like, no, no. So we, like. We gave in.

B (18:00)

Yeah, we gave in.

C (18:01)

We gave it. We gave it because I was so anxious.

B (18:03)

You were so anxious. You were so much. Okay, you're gonna laugh at me. I think you're so much less anxious now than you were a year and a half ago.

C (18:10)

Oh, no, I will not laugh at you. I could not agree more.

B (18:13)

You were so not. I mean, like, I was so anxious as well, too, but, like, you were, like. You were so much less anxious than you were.

C (18:21)

I hated being alive. Genuinely, like, genuinely hated being alive. Like, every single day. I was like, damn. I don't really think I like this at all. Which is so sad, right? And, like, genuinely so scary. And, like, especially for you and I, like, I think we do a really good job, the two of us, of. Of making everything like, he. And laughing it off.

B (18:43)

And that's how we deal, of course.

C (18:44)

Because what else are we gonna do? Like, just sit and stare at a wall? Probably.

B (18:47)

Probably.

C (18:48)

We might. But, yeah, like, there was. Oh, my God. Like, I was white knuckling every day, second hour, everything. I was like, yo, I. There was. You're gonna laugh because, of course, I'm making kind of a joke out of this. There was a line in Mr. Robot last night that I, like. I, like, looked at Toa, and I was like, that is so accurate. It was like. It's something that the drug dealer says to Elliot where he's like, you have no idea what it's like to hate someone until you hate yourself so much.

B (19:32)

Oh, yeah, I remember that.

C (19:33)

And I was like, yeah. Like, there's nothing, like, no matter what kind of conflict or anything you get into with. With anybody hating yourself and Hating being alive is the pinnacle of hatred and, and sadness. I was so insanely down bad. And it's not to say that, like, I'm not, like, you know, still anxious and like, such a tweaker now, because I definitely am, but, like, I definitely am so much happier. Yeah, there's. There's really. There's no hate like hating yourself.

B (20:09)

Right?

C (20:10)

Just period. There's no hate like hating yourself. That's the most deep, deeply rooted kind of. But yeah.

B (20:21)

How did you feel yourself, like, get out of it? Like, what did you do to take yourself out of that?

C (20:27)

I mostly just started realizing that, like, well, okay, first shift was like, I started enjoying my personal life more than I enjoyed enjoy more than I enjoyed my work life. I started being like, wait, I have amazing friends who love me and make me happy. I started being like, wait, I can take a vacation. No way.

B (20:52)

Right?

C (20:52)

Oh, that's amazing. I started having a partner who didn't take advantage of me, wanted me to win, loved being around me, loves supporting me for no benefit of her own, and also isn't, like, secretly keeping me from my personal life and all of my friends. And also who isn't, like, preying on my downfall. Wow.

B (21:20)

Right?

C (21:20)

That makes a massive difference.

B (21:22)

Right?

C (21:24)

And then also I just started being like, damn, no one is ever going to look out for me the way I'm going to look out for myself. So why am I listening to so many people that will never value my life as I value my own, right? And I stopped listening.

B (21:41)

Like, like, like everybody is like, you used to take everybody's input, like, so heavily. And then you're like, wait, stop.

C (21:47)

Yeah, I was just like, I don't. I don't want to impress you. I want to impress myself also. Like, you know, it's no matter like, you are. I think it's very easy, especially in, like, entertainment, to feel like everyone else kind of has control over your life.

B (22:03)

Right?

C (22:03)

Like, I didn't feel like I had any control over my life, even though I think I was probably acting like it. I'd be like, damn, I'm so sad. I don't want to do this, or, oh, my God, I'm so burnt out and I'm so tired. I don't want to do this and somebody be like, oh, my God. Well, like, just like, say no. And I'd be like, no. Oh, I, like, I don't want to say no.

B (22:20)

Right.

C (22:20)

Obviously I want to work, but truth be told, I did want to say no. I just felt like I, like, couldn't And I had to do everything. And I just started being like, damn. Like, my life is so much more full without me bending over backwards. For who don't give a. About me.

B (22:35)

Right?

C (22:35)

Whoa. My life is so much more full if I'm not trying to appease Tom, Dick, and Harry.

B (22:40)

Yeah.

C (22:41)

Like, I don't care.

B (22:42)

Also, I feel like at the place you were in your career, like, you felt like you had to say yes and do absolutely everything or else it was gonna go away.

C (22:49)

Ye.

B (22:50)

Because it was so new.

C (22:51)

Yeah.

B (22:51)

And now it's like, no, I'm here.

C (22:54)

Yeah. Now I'm like, girl, take it or leave it. I. Come on. Now I like, like, literally take it or leave it. It's. It is all good again. Like, I'm doing things to impress myself now.

B (23:06)

And you know what? That's fucking awesome.

C (23:09)

Yeah.

B (23:09)

And congratulations.

C (23:10)

Thanks, sweetheart.

B (23:11)

I love you.

C (23:11)

Thank you. I love you.

B (23:13)

You make me so happy.

C (23:14)

I can't tell you how happy I get every time that I see you. And whenever you come out with us, it's like a breath of fresh air.

B (23:21)

Your mommy to me.

C (23:22)

You're my baby. And, like, I've. We hate boys. But I, like, absolutely need you there. Like, I need water.

B (23:31)

Me, Julia and Peyton have our best nights with you.

C (23:34)

I gotta say, I agree.

B (23:37)

Yeah.

C (23:38)

I gotta say I agree. Because also, our nights are infinitely better when you guys are there. We're always so really excited. Yes.

B (23:43)

It is the best. And you know, you are my lucky charm for catching a dick.

C (23:48)

Come on.

B (23:49)

Have been, always will.

C (23:50)

Which is so insane to me because I'm like, what the fuck about me is attracting dick?

B (23:55)

It's the antithesis.

C (23:56)

A. Oh. But, like, so crazy.

B (23:59)

But it works for me. I don't know what it is. Every time. You know what? I think you make me feel so good and confident. That I'm just like.

C (24:07)

That it brings it.

B (24:07)

That it brings it in.

C (24:08)

That actually fully tracks. Yeah. Because one thing about it, we are not. We're not going out to, like, look cute and have fun and be seen. Actually, we're trying to maybe not do that.

B (24:22)

Right.

C (24:22)

We're trying to be seen as little as we possibly can. Because we're dancing on tables, on crutches, right? No, she's not.

B (24:31)

Okay.

C (24:33)

No, she's fine. She's fine. She's fine. She, like, God bless her.

B (24:36)

I kept saying, where's Toa? Where's Toa? And Renee said, oh, you haven't heard. Look for the crutches.

C (24:40)

Literally, look for the crutches. She sat in the corner like, babe, get up.

B (24:47)

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C (27:44)

You know what? Can I be so honest? So many people have been asking me about it.

B (27:48)

About Buddy.

C (27:49)

Yeah. So many people have been asking me about it.

B (27:52)

And you're like, I just don't know or care.

C (27:54)

I like, what on God's green earth?

B (27:56)

I'm like, oh, that's one of my favorite moments of you of all time.

C (28:00)

Yeah, it's very. It's very. It was jarring for me to. To. To see those interviews back because I was so. There's really nothing like a movie press cycle. There is nothing like it is. It's kind of crazy, I gotta be honest. Like, you sit in one room for like eight hours and, like, the lights are so bright and you're just kind of sat there and you've also just been doing, like, so. Right so much. And it's not that I would have said anything differently had I had a break. However, I like. Yeah, it's. It's like. It's just like, you know, it's like looking at. At someone who is like, this is my 18th interview of the day, and you've asked me something that I actually have a lot to say about, and now you're gonna hear it, and I'm really not sorry about it.

B (28:53)

Good for you.

C (28:54)

Literally at all. I gotta be honest. I just. I just. I just. If you're a man and you're gonna say some, please expect me to come back with fast fists.

B (29:06)

Right.

C (29:07)

Please expect to get your rocked. I don't understand it. I'm like, if you wanted to go and with little Bo Peep, go and do it. But, like, that's not me.

B (29:16)

Right?

C (29:17)

That's not me. Never.

B (29:18)

Husband.

C (29:19)

No. So why? Why? I'm like, you should have picked somebody else, right? Pick Somebody else to pick on. I beg you. There's plenty of pick somebody else to pick on. It's not me.

B (29:28)

And he. Yeah, it's not me. Are you ready for me to ask you what I know is your favorite question?

C (29:34)

Oh, my God. Please.

B (29:36)

What are you therapist about?

C (29:39)

God, one of my therapists wants.

B (29:43)

I know it's something. I know it's something.

C (29:46)

No, I've actually been really happy recently. Oh, let's go. No, of course not. What am I pissed about recently or what am I therapist about recently, shall I say? Okay, let me think of a good one. Cuz there's so many, they just like pop up like that. Okay. They pop up like something what pops? Puss. What Something. I'm pissed about recently. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God, oh my God. There's so many. Give me like two seconds. Let me just s everything in my brain. I used to really just let it rip.

B (30:23)

I know.

C (30:23)

I used to really let it rip. I'm trying to be thoughtful. I'm trying to be thoughtful. God bless my mother. She's like, please, I don't want to deal with any more like suing threats. I'm like, ah, it. No, I'm thinking about it. But you're gonna have to aok this one.

B (30:37)

Okay.

C (30:39)

This is something you're gonna have to a. Okay.

B (30:42)

Why?

C (30:45)

You know what I'm therapist about?

B (30:48)

What?

C (30:49)

You can cut this review if you're not.

B (30:50)

Okay, me.

C (30:53)

Who the was that man the other night trying to get your friend in the car?

B (31:01)

Oh, my God.

C (31:03)

I was like, like, why are we sat here?

B (31:09)

Do you remember that?

C (31:10)

Yes, I remember just you and me going up to the car and saying.

B (31:14)

You have to leave.

C (31:14)

Being like, you have to go. Like, what's going on? Like, you have to leave. Why are you like, you're tall Leave. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. And like, God bless her. God bless you. God bless cutie. But I was like, we've got bigger fish to fry. Right, right, right. That. That was therapist. But that was there a funny.

B (31:33)

That was terrifying.

C (31:34)

It was so funny because you walking up to the car, like literally all like five feet of you, like this shuffle. And then you're like, window down, window down, window down. Hi. What's going on? And I was creasing, bro. I'm creasing. And you're like, you have to leave. You have to leave. Like, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done. You have to leave. You have to leave. I'm done.

B (32:06)

I Love that.

C (32:07)

I was like, that is. That's my baby. She's iconic. No, I was like, that is so good. That's so good. Yeah. No, that was awesome. And then before that, there was my. My first. Here's how I got there. Right before that, the. The B to that C, shall I say, was. We didn't have any tequila. We just had mezcal. And I don't like mezcal.

B (32:30)

I hate mezcal.

C (32:30)

Why are we shooting mezcal? Like freaks. Okay? I was. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't like me mezcal, and I don't like vodka shots. And so that was my B. And then my A was when we were out, and there was this lady who was, I'm sure, probably really drunk. Whatever. Whatever, you know? And we. When we were sitting in, like, the thing outside, there were just, like. There were purses outside, but, like, I didn't know who was sitting there. And so we sat, like, next to the purses. And, like, she. Some lady, like, came over and gave Isabelle, like, attitude for us, like, sitting near where the purses were. I was like, bitch, no one wants your little, like, fucking Louis Vuitton bag. Get the fuck out of here. I was like, nobody's coming to jack your shit, Madame Capri.

B (33:12)

Get the fuck out of here.

C (33:14)

That pissed me off. So that was my A to B.

B (33:16)

To C. And that was so beautiful.

C (33:19)

I'm sorry to take you on that journey.

B (33:21)

No, that was an amazing journey to be on.

C (33:25)

Yeah.

B (33:26)

God, you are so funny.

C (33:27)

I. I couldn't. Couldn't be more obsessed with you.

B (33:30)

I love you.

C (33:31)

I love you very bad.

B (33:32)

Are you ready to do the tell me what's wrongs girl? I know you are, girl.

C (33:37)

Believe you me.

B (33:40)

My boyfriend said you remind me of my dog.

C (33:42)

First problem right there. Boyfriend.

B (33:44)

I knew it.

C (33:45)

Yeah, sorry, go ahead. I didn't interrupt you.

B (33:47)

My boyfriend said you remind me of my dog. I meant it as a compliment.

C (33:52)

Okay.

B (33:54)

I don't know what that means.

C (33:55)

He just called you A, by the way.

B (33:56)

Right?

C (33:57)

Like, that's literally him calling you A, so move on. Can we be real for a second? There is such thing as an ugly dog.

B (34:10)

And you know what? You're right.

C (34:12)

We gotta stop playing like the ugly dogs are cute.

B (34:15)

I agree.

C (34:15)

We gotta stop playing sometimes. That is ugly. So take a peek at the dog.

B (34:22)

Right?

C (34:22)

First. And second of all, he just called you a. But if that is, like, a white, crusty dog, then, like, you need to. You need to let that hoe go, right?

B (34:33)

Remind you of your dog?

C (34:35)

You agree that, like, dogs can be ugly? Just like.

B (34:37)

Of course I agree.

C (34:38)

Let's say it. Babies can be ugly.

B (34:41)

And. Renee. That was on the tip of my tongue.

C (34:43)

Sorry.

B (34:43)

That was on the tip of my tongue. And it's like, how awkward when someone shows you a baby and you're like, fugly. Ah, yeah.

C (34:51)

Hate it. I. And trust me, I'm seeing them. Yeah, I'm seeing them. My friend has an ugly baby.

B (34:56)

They do?

C (34:57)

Yeah.

B (34:58)

And have you told them, like, this baby is ugly?

C (35:01)

No, I just don't really go around it. I'm hoping that in. In some later years, you know, I would. By the way, I was ugly when I first came out.

B (35:10)

You were?

C (35:10)

Yeah.

B (35:11)

You've never been ugly?

C (35:12)

No, no, I. When I was first born, I was overcooked, red and crispy. Because I came out about a month.

B (35:16)

I thought you meant as lesbian.

C (35:21)

When I came out of Liz being fine as.

B (35:23)

No, I was like, you looked really good when you came out.

C (35:27)

Pretty sure I've known you for a while.

B (35:29)

I was like, what are you talking about?

C (35:31)

No, when I came out, like, boom, got it. Yeah. I wasn't cute at first. Grew into myself. Right. There's hope. I'm not saying there's not hope, but.

B (35:40)

Like, if the baby's ugly, I think it's good if the parents are just like. I know.

C (35:43)

Ugly babies, ugly dogs. Lido, I.

B (35:48)

That was biblical, what you just said.

C (35:50)

Yeah, I saw it in Bible Time. In the Bible. Read it there. You know, they were on each other, everybody.

B (35:57)

I think so, too.

C (35:59)

Bethlehem. Come on.

B (36:00)

What's Bethlehem?

C (36:01)

That's got to be where Jesus lived.

B (36:05)

I don't know anything.

C (36:06)

Can I be honest? I actually don't either, but I know a couple names. Jesus, Eve, Mary, God, Joseph. Is God Jesus? Okay, can we settle this once and for all? Is God Jesus? Somebody tell me yes or no.

B (36:21)

No. So basically, I don't know who God is. I thought Moses and Jesus were the same people. They are not.

C (36:28)

Moses is a different person.

B (36:31)

I don't know who it is. All I know is that Jesus. I don't know who God is.

C (36:41)

The three blind mice are at Christmas. The three blind mice. But they're not three blind mice. It's like three. They bring myrrh and Moses and Frank.

B (36:49)

Wise men.

C (36:50)

Wise men, right. Not the three blind mice. Yeah.

B (36:53)

It's like. Wait.

C (36:54)

I was like, there's kind of three blind mice somewhere.

B (36:57)

So God.

C (37:00)

Is God. Jesus's dad? Biological, by the way.

B (37:03)

Well, no, because God and Mary never did the Deed. It was immaculate conception.

C (37:08)

I'm so over that. I'm so over that. The only immaculate conception you can have is if you're gay.

B (37:14)

Agreed.

C (37:16)

Okay, so God's not Jesus.

B (37:18)

I don't think so.

C (37:20)

And did they have an ugly baby?

B (37:22)

I've never seen Jesus as a baby.

C (37:24)

Me neither.

B (37:25)

But I know that the baby doll that they have at all the, like, Christian parties.

C (37:29)

Oh, my God. Like, mangers.

B (37:30)

Yes, they have.

C (37:31)

My dad actually has a manger.

B (37:33)

Really?

C (37:33)

I think my dad's Catholic.

B (37:35)

What now? What's the difference there?

C (37:39)

Oh, isn't it like American Eagle versus, like, Abercrombie? Kind of the same thing, huh?

B (37:46)

You are so smart.

C (37:49)

Dare I say it's gotta be. It's crazy, but it's not Aeropostale. American Apparel. Do you know what I'm saying? It's much closer to Aberc. American.

B (37:59)

They're, like, close.

C (38:00)

Yes.

B (38:01)

Okay.

C (38:01)

They're scissoring even.

B (38:02)

I agree.

C (38:03)

Yeah. I don't even remember the question we just answered.

B (38:07)

Neither do I. My sister's boyfriend talks in a baby voice around us.

C (38:13)

Sure.

B (38:13)

And I want to throw myself into traffic every time.

C (38:16)

Oh, okay. Just let. Let them be. I think that everyone in a relationship kind of does that. I think we act like it doesn't happen, but it does. It happens, right?

B (38:32)

I've. Well, I'm asking, like, I've never still never been in a relationship case anyone was wondering.

C (38:37)

You're. You're avoiding. I know you're avoiding Harm. That's okay. I know that you're avoiding Harm. You don't need to be until you, like, really, like, find a good person to be in a relationship with. Because let me tell you, I did some test runs. Not worth it, right? Whoa.

B (38:52)

Not worth it, right?

C (38:53)

Yeah. What was the question?

B (38:58)

I don't know. Something about a baby voice.

C (39:01)

Oh, I guess. If it's a guy and he's doing it. Pack that up.

B (39:06)

Right. But if it's a girl, it's fine.

C (39:07)

If it's a girl, it's kind of okay.

B (39:08)

That's always what I say at my shows.

C (39:10)

That's usually just kind of like, Bible for everything.

B (39:12)

That's always what I say at my shows. My best friend's girlfriend winked at me, and I haven't stopped thinking about it for three weeks.

C (39:22)

Is the question, like, should I on her or no?

B (39:25)

Yeah, I think.

C (39:26)

Okay. What do you think?

B (39:30)

Like, how close is the best friend?

C (39:32)

What? My best friend's girlfriend. Hang on. This is like doing the Alphabet backwards. My best friend's girlfriend.

B (39:37)

Wink. Demi. I Think they're saying, like, my best friend's girlfriend is, like, flirting with me and I want to know.

C (39:42)

Side note, do you know that I can do the Alphabet backwards right now? Z, Y, X, W, V, U, T, S, R, Q, P, O, N, M, L, K, J, I, H, D, F, E, D, C, B, A. So my best friend's girlfriend winked at me.

B (39:53)

How did you do that?

C (39:54)

Science. Believe science.

B (39:57)

How did you. When did you learn that?

C (39:59)

Just, like, believing science and like, Covid. I was like, wait, you have to believe scientists.

B (40:06)

You really do.

C (40:07)

You.

B (40:08)

And no one does anymore.

C (40:10)

No one believes science except for me.

B (40:13)

And thank God for that.

C (40:14)

Yeah. My best friend's girlfriend. It's Jesus.

B (40:20)

Yes, probably Jesus.

C (40:23)

Yeah, it depends on how close the best friend is. And also, in a way, I'm winking in people.

B (40:32)

I knew you were gonna. Because you do. You're a winker.

C (40:34)

I love to wink. I love. I love, like, a wink. Flirt, fun, play. That's all fun as long as there's nothing underneath it.

B (40:44)

Right. So maybe this person's projecting because they have a crush on the girlfriend.

C (40:48)

I mean. Yeah. Like, if you want to on the girlfriend, just say so.

B (40:51)

Right.

C (40:52)

Hey. Yeah.

B (40:53)

I don't know how I'm supposed to please my parents when it comes to college and careers. They shut down every path I suggest. What do I do?

C (41:00)

Oh, this is a. This is the first, like, genuine question I've gotten in this category. Wait, okay, hang on. Tapping in. What's the question? I'm scared. This isn't like, ugly babies.

B (41:11)

No, No. I don't know how I'm supposed to. To please my parents when it comes to college and careers. They shut down every. Sorry, it's not funny. You were funny.

C (41:19)

No, it's. It's. It's hilarious.

B (41:20)

They shut down every path I suggest. What do I do?

C (41:23)

I've said it before. I'll say it again. Euthanize your parents and move out. Do you like that?

B (41:34)

You know, the first research. The first research paper I ever wrote was on euthanasia. Legalize that.

C (41:41)

What did you just say?

B (41:42)

Yeah, the first research paper I ever wrote in eighth grade was on euthanasia.

C (41:47)

Can I be so dead ass about what I thought you just said? Yeah, the first research paper I ever did was on youth in Asia. And I was like, hell, yeah. And you know what? Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. And I was like, how did you get that from euthanization? Euthanasia is what you call. Yeah. Oh.

B (42:10)

I was like, did you mean emancipation?

C (42:13)

About what?

B (42:14)

The parents? Or did you mean.

C (42:15)

I meant.

B (42:16)

Okay.

C (42:17)

No, I did mean euthanization. But emancipation would do as well, right? Close second.

B (42:26)

Close second.

C (42:27)

Close second. Yeah. I don't know. Get really good at something and then prove them wrong. My parents thought that I was gonna crash and burn and be dead in a ditch somewhere by the time I was 17. And then at 18, I got a job, so.

B (42:38)

Was that when you booked your first job, when you were 18?

C (42:40)

Yes.

B (42:41)

And it was mean girls.

C (42:43)

Well, I was in callbacks for mean girls when I was 18. I got my first, like, job, like, of. Like, a reading for something when I was. Okay, when I was 18. And then I, like, officially. Officially. Officially, like, contracted paper money in my pocket in 2019. Beginning.

B (43:01)

What did your parents want you to do before that?

C (43:04)

Anything. They were. They were begging. They were looking for a prayer. They were. They were sweating like a. In church. Whoa. There was one. They were like, please do anything. We're begging. They wanted me to be professional golfer because. Yeah. Do you know this part of my lore?

B (43:22)

You were a golfer?

C (43:24)

My whole life. My whole life I was on. I was on every team.

B (43:30)

Did you enjoy it?

C (43:31)

Yeah, I love golfing. I still love golfing. You've never seen my custom golf bag. No initials and all, girl.

B (43:38)

Wait, what is golfing, though?

C (43:41)

Golf is similar to. Okay, let's go. Okay. Beginning here.

B (43:52)

Okay.

C (43:53)

You have a lot of straight friends. You know what pickleball is?

B (43:57)

Yeah.

C (43:58)

Pickleball is to golf as Catholicism is to Christianity, as American Eagle is to Abercrombie.

B (44:08)

Right.

C (44:12)

Golf is so fun. It is such a mental game, and it is, contrary to popular belief, a very athletic sport in the dome. It's so fun.

B (44:26)

So did you play? How. How old were you when you started?

C (44:29)

I started playing when I was probably six or seven.

B (44:35)

So you remember the Tiger Wood scandal?

C (44:38)

Do I remember? It was all the rage.

B (44:40)

Was it, like, the biggest deal ever for you, girl?

C (44:42)

It was all the rage. I was like, what's going on?

B (44:44)

It was the crazy. I'm pretty sure she hit him with her car.

C (44:50)

Did she?

B (44:50)

Didn't she?

C (44:51)

I just remember because it was the drama of my household. Like, it was the drama, and everyone.

B (44:56)

Was like, did you hear?

C (44:58)

Of course. And at the time, I was like, hello. This is, like, me, seven years old, like, not believing women. Hello. I'm like. I'm like. But it's like, tiger Wood. Wait. Like, he's kind of like my everything, right? I'm like, oh, okay. But, yeah, that was like, massive drama, massive drum. And then there was a dui.

B (45:19)

Yes.

C (45:20)

Few, I think.

B (45:21)

Yeah. They tell you it was a whole to do.

C (45:24)

I know.

B (45:25)

It was a hole to do.

C (45:26)

Yeah.

B (45:27)

I hate all my friends. Sure, they're immature and constantly shut people out, but I'm at the age where it's hard to make new ones. If I leave them, I'll be alone. What do I do?

C (45:35)

What's your age, babe? It's never too late to make really good.

B (45:38)

I also agree, you know, and what's always so reassuring is when I'm. Whenever I'm with someone that's like 40, and I'm like, yeah, you know, I've known him since we. For like 10 years, and this is my best friend. I'm like, oh, and you can always meet new people.

C (45:51)

You can always meet new people. My, you know, my friend group so well. Yeah, we've all been best friends for. I mean, honestly, that, like, massive group has only been, like, really best friends in. In this specific iteration of everybody. Like, all of, like, T's friends and my friends have all only been together since, I guess, January, really, of this year. Like, in that way. I mean, like, we've been best friends for years, but, like, all of us, like, in the specifics, like, if you include, like, everybody, even from, like, my friends who you've known for forever, have only been all super tight since. Since around January. And, like, we are so inseparable. Right? And, like, they're the greatest group of people that I know.

B (46:40)

And also my best friend Will, I didn't know until last year.

C (46:44)

I know. You know what I remember?

B (46:47)

What?

C (46:48)

Oh, you're so cute. You're so cute because you were like, I have a gay friend. And I was like. I was like, oh, I'm so glad. Yes. I remember when you guys met because I was so excited. I was like, you need more gay people in your life. And I love your straights. You know, I ride for your straights down. But I was like, you. You need more gays in your life and, like, act like queer gays, not just people who are like. Like, there's a difference, you know?

B (47:15)

There is a major difference.

C (47:17)

Yeah, of course. You and Will just met each other.

B (47:19)

Like a year year ago, and we're best friends. Vacation together.

C (47:21)

So sweet.

B (47:22)

He's the greatest.

C (47:23)

He's a good. He's a good one.

B (47:24)

He's a good one.

C (47:25)

He's a good one.

B (47:25)

And he, you know, he makes gay country music.

C (47:28)

Excuse me.

B (47:29)

Yes. I have to play it for you. It's amazing. Louise, you just heard it, right?

C (47:32)

Yes, amazing. Wait. Get out.

B (47:34)

He Makes gay country music.

C (47:36)

Hello.

B (47:37)

He's the voice of an angel.

C (47:39)

Yes, well, talented and unlocked.

B (47:42)

Yeah. Unlocked.

C (47:44)

That's very. Well alert. That's so will alert. Yeah.

B (47:48)

Will alert.

C (47:49)

Yeah.

B (47:50)

My ex situationship and I have a very hard time staying away from each other.

C (47:53)

Oh, my God, that's so tired. Sorry. That was like a. That was a tick. Sorry. That was a tick. That was a tick. I shouldn't have said that.

B (48:01)

We're so, so bad for one another. But I think that's why we still hook up. Help me. How do I grow up?

C (48:06)

Stand up and grow up. No, I'm sorry. I know that it's much more difficult than that. You take this one first. I don't have anything nice.

B (48:17)

I mean, I've never. The only situationship I've ever had was a guy I hooked up with twice over the course of six months, and I'm still down bad over him. So I have nothing to add for that. Gods be to you.

C (48:27)

I hear you. But like, you're kind of that girl, so why. I just like, my mom was always like, dude, like, you're the. Like, you're that. Like, if somebody doesn't want to be around you, then like, okay, they're lost and like, they can be the to somebody else. Like, clearly that person's not the to you.

B (48:46)

Right?

C (48:47)

I hear you. Yeah, I hear you. But please know that from my perspective. I can't even understand it.

B (48:53)

No, I know. And that makes me feel better.

C (48:54)

I.

B (48:55)

We literally only hooked up twice five years ago.

C (48:57)

Five years ago, Love. Can you show me a picture of this person? Because there's no.

B (49:02)

I don't even have one.

C (49:03)

Jake. There's no way he's good looking.

B (49:05)

He. You. He's not.

C (49:07)

Okay.

B (49:07)

Yes. To me.

C (49:09)

Talking about dicks never makes me feel good. I'm sorry. I didn't have anything to say because it always just makes me question. I'm like.

B (49:16)

And I did do it good, though. Good, right?

C (49:18)

Good. You needed that.

B (49:20)

Well, Renee.

C (49:21)

Yeah.

B (49:22)

What did we learn today?

C (49:25)

Well, we certainly didn't learn who God and Jesus are. Still not sure if they're the same person. Can't tell if they're related. We learned that you're excited for tour. Yeah. We learned that you were excited for.

B (49:41)

Excited.

C (49:42)

We learned I'm excited for tour. I think we learned that, like, we probably shouldn't go on like four day benders again.

B (49:51)

Yeah.

C (49:51)

It's getting to the point where I'm like, whoa.

B (49:53)

Yeah. But like, let's go out next weekend if. Well, you're gone.

C (49:56)

Oh, I'm gone. But then I'm home when you're back. I'm home the following week. Actually, party on Saturday. I'm home the following weekend. Genuinely dead ass.

B (50:03)

I will be here.

C (50:04)

Okay, done. What did you learn?

B (50:08)

That I think you're gonna be in my life forever. And I really love you so much.

C (50:12)

I love you so bad. You'll be in my life forever, whether you like it or not. I'll change you to something before you try. And somewhere.

B (50:19)

And you are everything to me. And I love you and I'm so proud of you.

C (50:22)

Love you.

B (50:23)

Want to give a little by?

C (50:26)

Hey, puss. Wait. Did you say to say bye?

B (50:31)

Say bye.

C (50:40)

Bye. The.