Session 93: Brett's B-Day!

Summary

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 93: Brett's B-Day!
Date: September 7, 2025
Host: Jake Shane
Guests: Brett, Julia, Peyton, Manny

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Overview

This special birthday episode celebrates Brett turning 25 with an exuberant, hour-long session of classic Therapuss banter. Jake, Brett, and friends dig deeply (with their trademark mix of humor, pop culture obsession, and genuine friendship) into all things Taylor Swift, pop music, personal growth, marathon running, room makeovers, and a lively round of advice during “Tell Me What’s Wrong.” The episode is a heartfelt celebration of friendship and growth, peppered with passionate debates about music, self-care rituals, and amusing life mishaps.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Brett’s 25th Birthday & Quarter-Life Reflections

• Brett reflects on reaching "the mid-20s," feeling both old and excited about what’s ahead (01:28).
• The group discusses goals for the next year, appreciating the privilege of doing what they love at a young age, and plans for business growth (especially Brett’s run club merch and marathon ambitions) (19:00 - 22:10).
• Notable birthday tradition: knocking three times for luck, a superstition shared by the friend group (19:43).

2. Room Makeovers & Living Space Dynamics

• The group details a full makeover of their living spaces, emphasizing the impact decluttering has had on their mood and willingness to host (02:19 - 04:24).
• Thanks given (repeatedly) to Ashley and Stacy, professional organizers, for transforming their house:

  “They changed our rooms. Changed our house. Like, I’m not embarrassed anymore to have people over. Me either. And you know what? We’re going to keep it that way.” – Brett (03:41-03:56)

3. Taylor Swift Deep Dive: "Life of a Showgirl" and Beyond

• The group spends a solid portion theorizing about Taylor’s next album, "Life of a Showgirl," claiming tracks, and connecting the project's direction to Taylor’s pattern of responding to fan criticism (10:03 - 16:33).
• Julia forecasts a three-part 13th album—country, pop, and folk—inspired by Beyoncé’s multi-act structure (15:27).
• Discussion on Swift’s competitive drive and why critics dislike her chart-obsessed approach:

  “Who doesn’t care about the charts? Why are we pretending this isn’t her job? … That is Billboard. That’s the Grammy album of the year; it’s the football championship of music.” – Julia (17:13-18:00)

• The group links pop success with societal misogyny and defends Taylor’s ambition as a professional (18:15-18:28).

4. Pop Music Appreciation: Carly Rae Jepsen, Audrey Hobert, Megan Moroney

• Julia and Manny recount a magical, intimate Carly Rae Jepsen concert—performance of "Emotion" front to back (24:50 - 37:05).
  • The group ranks Emotion tracks, likening Carly’s lack of mainstream "pop girl" status to media’s disinterest in women who separate personal from professional lives (27:23).
  • Julia claims, "Carly Rae Jepsen is our modern-day Robyn," drawing a parallel with "Your Type" and "Dancing On My Own" (33:01).
• Manny sings the praises of Audrey Hobert’s new album for its relatability and quality, with comparisons to Emotion (36:37-37:59).
• Megan Moroney’s "Before He Cheats moment" is predicted; Brett claims addiction to her music (39:13-39:18).

5. Marathon Culture & Running Influencer Life

• Brett shares marathon highs and lows:
  • Boston Marathon was "the worst day of my life," but New York offered redemption and memorable candid photos (21:01-23:07).
  • Chicago Marathon is the big upcoming goal; group vows to make Brett the most tracked runner (21:44-21:59).
  • Discussion on the difficulty of getting into London and Tokyo marathons and the influencer marathon bib controversy (23:33-24:24).

6. Skincare and Self-Care Rituals

• Julia shares her current skincare routine, notably the Rhode Pineapple Face Wash and glazing milk, emphasizing authenticity over sponsorship (40:34-41:12).
• Hot tip: Aftershave for "minty, cold" freshness (41:08-41:19).

7. Taylor Swift Song Rankings & Release Traditions

• The group shares personal top five Taylor Swift tracks (42:41-54:25).
• Ritual for every Taylor album drop:
  • Take the day off work, marathon listen, Shibuya dinner, Miss Americana pre-game, and capture first-listen reactions on video (45:48-49:02, 47:11-47:58).
  • “When you wake up and you’re like, I have a whole new album, I have 12 new tracks. And that’s community.” – Julia (49:07-49:23)

8. Advice Segment: "Tell Me What’s Wrong"

A batch of listener submissions discussed with trademark therapies:

• Secret Twitter Porn Account (54:28)
  • “Maybe this is toxic of me, but have him on Twitter and be like, ‘Oh, what’s your other account?’” – Brett (55:30-55:56)
• Losing Money & Stripper in Vegas (56:10)
  • Pragmatic financial advice—"make your friends pay for you"—and comic relief about making out with a stripper.
• Roommate Pees on the Door (58:59)
  • "Thank God pee is sterile," advises Julia with deadpan humor (59:42).
• Friend Queefs on Command (59:55)
  • Julia: "If my friend could queef on command, I would let them do it whenever they wanted. Next." (60:10)
• God Complex from Independence (60:29)
  • “You’re so self-aware... So implement it.” – Julia (61:02-61:10)
  • Brett: “You don’t need to rub it in your friends’ faces, but ... if you think it about yourself, who cares?” (61:28-61:33)
• Moving in with a Betraying Friend (61:42)
  • Advice to break the lease or at least demand to switch roommates.
• Being Babied by Mom (62:30)
  • Gentle push to accept parents’ quirks if it makes them happy unless big boundaries are crossed.
• Throwing 30th Birthday Party with a Theme (64:01)
  • Sex and the City is the unanimous theme suggestion; friends who reject themes "hate fun."
• Perpetually Late Friend (64:53)
  • Solution: "I’ll just meet you there," and handle differences in friendship pragmatically.

9. End-of-Episode Reflections

• Brett reflects gratefully on turning 25, how much growth has happened since college, and the positive changes in life, work, and friendships (66:08-67:00).

  “I’m just really happy with my life… a few years ago, like, I was down in the dumps. Let me just tell you that.” – Brett (66:47)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “They changed our house. Like, I’m not embarrassed anymore to have people over.” – Brett (03:53)
• “Taylor loves the charts…that is Billboard…that is what it is.” – Julia (17:00-18:00)
• "If my friend could queef on command, I would let them do it whenever they wanted." – Julia (60:10)
• “If she was a man…It would not be a conversation.” – Brett (18:24-18:27)
• “Put some motherfucking respect on her name.” (re: Carly Rae Jepsen) – Julia (35:45)
• “No other song is 10 minutes.” (re: All Too Well Ultimate Version) – Julia (51:19)
• “Hold on to your inner child. Hold on to the memories; they will hold on to you.” – Julia (64:43)
• “You have to come to each song in your own over time.” (on appreciating new albums) – Julia (41:51)
• “I just want to... continue to grow in my career and... do things that I love so much at a young age.” – Brett (20:18)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Room Makeover and Decluttering: 02:19–04:24
• Taylor Swift Album Predictions & Commentary: 10:03–16:33
• Marathon Goals, Chicago, New York, London: 19:00–24:24
• Carly Rae Jepsen/Pop Music Deep Dive: 24:50–37:59
• Skincare Routine: 40:34–41:19
• Taylor Swift Song Rankings: 42:41–54:25
• “Tell Me What’s Wrong” Advice Segment: 54:28–65:42
• End-of-Episode Reflections & Life Lessons: 66:08–67:29

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Episode Tone & Language

The episode is candid, irreverent, and full of affectionate ribbing. There’s a palpable sense of camaraderie and shared language (with terms like “balls deep,” “sick day,” “queef on command,” and "I'm dead ass serious"). Jokes and insights flow rapidly, undergirded by genuine advice and strong opinions on music, wellness, and growing up.

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Conclusion

“Session 93: Brett’s B-Day!” is both a celebration of Brett’s life milestone and a deep pop culture therapy room for all listeners. If you are a Swiftie, music nerd, or navigating your own early adulthood, you’ll find warmth, wisdom, and cathartic laughs throughout the episode.

Transcript

[Julia]

Surprise posties. Welcome back to Therapist. Okay. I've never done an intro like this before, but I have to because I forgot to do it at home. And I'm in New York visiting Peyton and Julia. I saw Tate this week. It was amazing. So today, Sunday, I'm seeing Gaga. I'm so excited. But on today's episode, it is Brett's Brain birthday special. We had so much fun filming. We literally just talked about Taylor Swift for an hour. It was literally so fun. Filming with my friends is always just, like, the most fun and the best, and I just. I. I hope you guys enjoyed the episode. I don't know what to say. I feel so awkward doing an intro like this. I've never done it before, but I. I don't really know. Just a minute. Tell me what's wrong. Go to passatpuss.com and leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Okay. Enjoy the episode. Love you.

[Brett]

Hey. I didn't even know there.

[Julia]

How cute.

[Brett]

Oh, my God, J.

[Julia]

How cute.

[Brett]

That is so cute. Oh, I love you.

[Julia]

Vinnie and Nolan did it. Happy birthday.

[Brett]

Oh, my God. Thanks.

[Julia]

Are we ready to go? Wow. Happy birthday. Are you so excited to be 25?

[Brett]

Like, I guess, yeah.

[Peyton]

But it.

[Brett]

I feel like 25 is, like the mid-20s.

[Julia]

I know. Do you feel old?

[Brett]

I feel old. I mean, you're almost 26.

[Julia]

Shut up. Is Max 26?

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

And he's almost 27. He turns 27 before you turn 26. October 17th.

[Peyton]

Yes. Yeah.

[Julia]

Libra.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

We have a lot to talk about.

[Brett]

So much.

[Julia]

Number one. Do you think I'm sick or dehydrated?

[Brett]

I don't know. Like, how tired are you?

[Julia]

Can you. Can't you hear it in my voice?

[Brett]

Slightly hear it.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

But I haven't wanted to freak you out because. Cuz. Have you been sleeping? Well?

[Julia]

No.

[Brett]

So maybe that's why we should talk.

[Julia]

About our new rooms.

[Peyton]

Yes.

[Julia]

Okay. So I was moving into the big bedroom, and Brett was using another bedroom because we didn't want to get new roommates. Yeah, we wanted. We were like, it just doesn't feel right. We don't want to get new.

[Brett]

More space.

[Julia]

We needed more space.

[Brett]

Both of us.

[Julia]

My closet was throwing up.

[Brett]

Yeah, like, you needed more space. I needed more space. My room was, like, packed to the brim. Like, I couldn't move in my room.

[Julia]

You lived in a box.

[Brett]

I lived in a box. My room is the smallest in the house. Which is fine. Which is fine.

[Julia]

I mean, not only is it the smallest in the house, the ceiling Concaves.

[Brett]

And so like the ceiling does concave in.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

And I'm having like no room for anything. Like I had like four dressers. I had no hanging space.

[Julia]

Yeah. So.

[Brett]

So anyway. Yeah. So now Julia's old room is my like closet glam get ready room that has like all my clothes pretty much except for like my PJs and the people who.

[Julia]

And then they. My room is completely redone.

[Brett]

Jake's room looks insane.

[Julia]

It's insane.

[Brett]

Everything looks insane.

[Julia]

It's really, really, really quite insane. I've never had a room like it. Like, I'm so excited to spend time in my room. I've never had a TV so big in my room. I just took pay ends.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And there's one person to thank.

[Brett]

The go to girls.

[Julia]

This is not sponsored. Not all we paid them.

[Brett]

Ashley and Stacy. Ashley and Stacy were addicted.

[Julia]

We love you guys so much. Like they changed our room. Change our house. Changed our house. Like I'm not embarrassed anymore to have.

[Brett]

People over me either. And you know what? We're going to keep it that way.

[Julia]

We are.

[Brett]

No, we are.

[Julia]

We are.

[Brett]

Because like we got rid of so much stuff. So here's the thing. Like I. It's. They're worth every penny for a myriad of reasons. But I think the biggest one for me is that it's forced me to literally go through everything.

[Julia]

Right.

[Brett]

And donate so much and like just get stuff out of our house. The clutter out. It's just like our house just feels lighter. It feels like airier. Doesn't feel airier.

[Julia]

Yeah, I agree. I mean like, I like love being in bed.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

I mean your room is everything.

[Julia]

My room is pretty insane.

[Brett]

And it has a plant.

[Julia]

Yeah, it has a plant. And I know the plant is fake and like that way it'll stay alive forever.

[Brett]

But it's just like the vibes.

[Julia]

It's like I can bring a boy over.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And like it's hot. Like, oh yeah, that's my room.

[Brett]

Yeah, like you know, my room. Oh, he walks through your closet to get to the bathroom and he's like, damn, damn.

[Julia]

Like, why does he have so many shoes? Yeah, like, damn. Like damn. Like, you know, like when I used to have a guys over. Like, come on. The room was purple with stuffed animals.

[Brett]

Wait, where are you putting your sign? Your glow up sign gonna stay in the back house. Okay. I think that's. I think that's good.

[Julia]

I think you know, it's not.

[Brett]

Jake has this globe side. What does it say? 10. He would sleep with it on it's LED purple light.

[Julia]

Cassie used to get so mad he.

[Brett]

Would sleep with it on. It illuminates the entire room. I don't know how you fell asleep.

[Julia]

The mattress is getting more comfortable, by the way.

[Brett]

Okay, good.

[Julia]

I was really panicking. I don't think my body was used to sleeping on a king.

[Brett]

I don't think so either. And I think mattresses, they do take, like, at least, like, a few days. Like, maybe two weeks.

[Julia]

To be honest, all it took was you sitting on it and saying, oh, this is comfortable. You don't think this is comfortable? And then I was like, oh, maybe I'm wrong. And that was it.

[Brett]

Wow.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Brett]

You're welcome.

[Julia]

Thank you so much.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Julia]

So Brett's watching the Summer I Turned Pretty.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

But here's the thing. They get you because, like, I wasn't watching this season, and then I watched one episode, and I was like, fudge.

[Julia]

Let me tell you what I found most confusing. I jumped in, obviously, randomly. I obviously understand that Belly is getting married to Jeremiah. Okay. So what I found most confusing is her bachelor and his. Her bachelorette. And his bachelor party consisted of a few things. Number one, she had two friends for.

[Brett]

Her bachelorette, which is, like, just, like, hire, like, extras and say they're, like, childhood friends. Like, it doesn't matter that she only has two friends in the show.

[Julia]

It was just, like, very confusing to me. Like, they were she. And then she went to the bar for her two friends. So there was three people and said, can we have 10 shots of tequila? So that would mean it's not. That's not even distribution. So, like, the whole thing just didn't feel very thought out to me. And then their activity during the day for both of their bachelor and bachelorette parties, which they were doing in the same house, was choreographing dances together. What was the point? Were they trying to make Tiktoks?

[Brett]

So I think they're for, like, the reception Taylor, because Taylor, her best friend, said, like, we have to practice the reception dance.

[Julia]

But the sink budget on that show, I mean, do you think Taylor is just, like, like, for free?

[Brett]

I wonder.

[Julia]

Like, but how can they afford multiple Taylor songs in one episode? I know they did Robin. Robin and Love of my Life.

[Brett]

And I think there was one other one. Maybe. I forget.

[Julia]

Sure. They're one.

[Brett]

And there was, like, Billy. Charlie. Charlie xcx.

[Julia]

Is that.

[Brett]

Yeah, there was a Charlie xcx.

[Julia]

Which one?

[Peyton]

Girl.

[Brett]

It's so confusing in the bachelor part. Yeah. When they go to the club. You weren't watching. You were showering.

[Julia]

They went to a dive bar.

[Brett]

The girls went to a club.

[Julia]

That was the club.

[Brett]

Belly, like, freaks out and is like, I'm in love with Conrad. Because she. And she's like, I'm so high.

[Julia]

Because she ate a gummy.

[Brett]

Because she had a gummy. Yeah.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

But I think for my bachelor party.

[Julia]

Like, I am going to be.

[Brett]

Yeah. What's that gonna look like?

[Julia]

I don't care how sober I am from any. I am going to be. Well, I want. Okay. Actually, this is a good thing for my bachelor party. I want to do Greece.

[Brett]

Right.

[Julia]

And I think hopefully, I mean, from what I figured, I will get married late enough in life where everyone can take off time and hopefully, you know, figure it out. I want to do Greece.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

I'm down.

[Julia]

We were talking about this the other day.

[Brett]

We were.

[Julia]

There's only, like, a handful of bachelor places to go.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Yeah, exactly.

[Julia]

But also, like, you know, like, I'm going to be so bored on my bachelor party day one.

[Brett]

Well, that's. We just. You have to have someone plan it for you. And we'll plan it and make it really fun, but you'll have to have time to, like, nap and decompress because you don't want to be doing stuff all day, every day.

[Julia]

Never.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

So it's fine.

[Julia]

Maybe we should go to, like, Paris and go off our phones. No.

[Brett]

Yeah, no, that's not happening. Especially for you and me. Whose screen time is worse?

[Julia]

Mine's actually not bad. It was, like, six hours the other day.

[Brett]

Oh, mine's worse.

[Julia]

What's yours?

[Brett]

Mine's like, over 10 every single week, average.

[Julia]

Do you sleep with it next to your head? We need to stop.

[Brett]

I listen to podcasts to fall asleep, and I put it right there.

[Julia]

So you need to connect to a speaker and we need to stop.

[Brett]

Really?

[Julia]

Is it really.

[Brett]

It's really bad. Is it?

[Julia]

It's really bad.

[Brett]

I didn't know if that was just.

[Julia]

Fear Monger, a doctor. Do not stitch this, because I don't want to know. I already have an inkling. I know we're balls deep in what we've done.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

So, like, if we have the big bc, I don't want to know.

[Brett]

We're definitely too far gone. I feel like.

[Julia]

Figure out what BC was.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Cool. Well, Nolan, it's brain cancer. Oh.

[Brett]

When. When I was little, I used. I wasn't allowed to, like, have my ipod in bed, but I would have it anyway, and I would listen with headphones and put it under my Pillows. Like, I'm.

[Julia]

My parents used to say that when I would listen to headphones, I would go deaf.

[Brett]

Really?

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

I mean, I think. I think it is what it is, but I'll try to stop listening to, like, right there.

[Julia]

We have to really. I just, like, might as well cut it off now. We know.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Julia]

We know.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Life of a showgirl. Okay.

[Brett]

Life of a show girl.

[Julia]

Which tracker? So obviously, like, we were going back to our midnight roots. Like, we have a countdown in the house. We are very, very excited. What song are you claiming? What songs do you think is going to be your favorite?

[Brett]

I'm. I'm claiming Wood. Is that, like, so rogue of me?

[Julia]

No, I'm claiming.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

What are you claiming?

[Julia]

I have a gut feeling I will be wrong.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Julia]

It can go 50 50. But if it works in my favor, like, I know it will be amazing. Elizabeth Taylor.

[Brett]

I knew you were going to say that.

[Julia]

Something about it is giving, like, grown up style.

[Peyton]

You're so.

[Julia]

Or like grown up wildest dreams.

[Brett]

And, like, you're so right.

[Julia]

And I'm just like, I want to put that out there now. But, like, I don't know how she can say Elizabeth Taylor, like, in the chorus, you know, Like, I'd rather her, like, say E T. Or like, like, make it, like, a little more catchy.

[Brett]

Or like, what's crazy to me is that.

[Julia]

But she always makes it work.

[Brett]

She always makes work. But what's crazy to me is that the track list, like, really isn't reading, like, a pop album.

[Julia]

I know the fate of Ophelia reading.

[Brett]

Like, folklore because you know what?

[Julia]

She. What did we talk about this? We saw a video where she. Okay, so she took the criticism.

[Brett]

Oh, yeah. I told you.

[Julia]

Can you.

[Peyton]

Yes.

[Brett]

Credit to the swiftologist. It was his video. But he was like. Taylor always, like, takes the constructive criticism and, like, applies it to her next album. And he was talking to which how people were saying they were sick of Jack Gan stuff. And so this album has no Jack. But if you go back, it's. That reputation was too dark and like, like grungy of an album.

[Julia]

So then she did love her.

[Brett]

She did love her. And then lover was too, like, catering towards kids and too, like, poppy and, like, playful. So then she does and like to like, baselines. And she does folklore and evermore.

[Julia]

And then everyone's like, we miss your pop.

[Brett]

So do Midnight.

[Julia]

But then everyone was like, we miss your deep stuff.

[Brett]

Yeah. And they were like. And they were like, midnights. He was like, Midnights was like, shallow. So Then she does, like, like, tortured poet, which is, like, her, like, most like, vulnerable, like, you know.

[Julia]

Right.

[Brett]

And then now they're sick of Jack Antonov. So back to back smart. Which I'm psyched about. Here's the thing. I love Jack Antoff. But once like this, like, probably a year and a half ago, when people started hating on Jack, I looked up what songs Max Martin had done with Taylor.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Brett]

They're all my favorites.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Brett]

I mean, of course, Getaway Car, August Love. But, like, delicate, don't blame me style. 22. Weird. Like, I love those pop ones. I love them.

[Julia]

I. Yeah. I mean, I think it's gonna be incredible. I also think she wants this to be. I don't think she has felt. I think the eras tour, like, made her feet, like. But, like, I don't think she has felt the same. I, like, in her mind, the way I'm just trying to visualize it. 1989 was the last time that she had an album where multiple singles were, like, going number one. Like, the songs were legitimately taking over the airwaves.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Swifty culture became so big so that she, like. You know what I mean? Like, it became more of an album thing.

[Peyton]

Yes.

[Julia]

And, like, it was like the album as a whole. Like, am I making sense right now?

[Brett]

I know you're right.

[Julia]

Once Life of a Showgirl to be like. Like, I think she wants to take it back to, like, the early to, like, the 2010s of being. Like, this album has five number one hits on.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Like, I don't only have, like, the lead single of Anti Hero. And then, like, everything else, like, we some people, it's like, not, like, number one. Like, she's like, I want each of these to be number one.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

So that's why this has 12 tracks. Like, I know they're back to back to back to back to back to back bangers.

[Brett]

Also, like, the way she's speaking about it is, like, so confident.

[Julia]

That's what I'm thinking too. And also, like, she's saying, like, there's no bonus, nothing.

[Brett]

Like, which Are we even to get into it?

[Julia]

No, I'm fine with the no bonus because people said no.

[Brett]

But have you seen that There was a Pinocchio on the shelf, so people think she's fudgeing lying.

[Julia]

Was there a Pinocchio in the other videos?

[Brett]

What do you mean?

[Julia]

Like, has anyone watched other New Heights videos? Was there a Pinocchio in the back?

[Brett]

I don't know. I didn't go that deep into it.

[Julia]

Because I Only believe that if there is not a if. If that set behind her. Besides, the ts is intentional. Like, if. Like, there's new things that weren't in Travis and Jason's old stuff. I believe the Pinocchio. I think no lead single.

[Brett]

There's no way. I feel like she doesn't do that anymore.

[Julia]

Well, no one does. Like, Billy didn't do it. Oh, Billy didn't do a lead single. Taylor doesn't do lead singles. Beyonce doesn't do lead singles. And I think.

[Peyton]

Oh, yeah.

[Brett]

Taylor is like, I thought Beyonce did Texas hold up.

[Julia]

She did. Wow, you're so right. Yeah, she did.

[Brett]

I remember.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Brett]

So maybe.

[Julia]

I don't think so.

[Brett]

I don't think so.

[Julia]

Maybe week of.

[Brett]

No, I don't think so.

[Julia]

Week before.

[Brett]

I don't think so.

[Julia]

No.

[Brett]

But like, the singles for 1989, I mean, that's crazy.

[Julia]

I. I am claiming Elizabeth Taylor and I'm. I'm also claiming.

[Brett]

I. Why am I, like, blanking out? What's track five? Oh, eldest daughter. All the oldest daughters are like, I.

[Julia]

Won'T relate because I act like an only child even though I have a younger brother. Yeah, you won't relate. You're the youngest.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

But I think it'll be good.

[Julia]

I know we're getting ahead of ourselves, but I'd also like to put this out there. Now, I think for her 13th album. Can I tell you my idea?

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

I think she is going to do a three part album drop all at once or over the course of three weeks in the similar vein to be in a similar vein to Beyonce's Act 1, Act 2, Act 3, but not without much time between because she's going to want it all to be the 13th album.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

First half is. First part is country because she's country in her first part of her career. Second part is pop, and the third part is folk.

[Brett]

Damn.

[Julia]

And I think that is going to be her 13th album and it is going to be 13 tracks each. So it is going to be 39 tracks. And I think this. And I think that. And I think that is why she is doing the life of the showgirl. 12 pop tracks now, because this is her last attempt at, like, singles. Like, I want a single album, like an album that is appreciated as a whole, but that has a multiple number one singles on it.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

I think for her 13th album, she wants, like it to be like a biblical body of work.

[Brett]

I agree. And you, like, you're.

[Julia]

I feel like my. My senses are pretty.

[Brett]

Your senses are good.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Brett]

You're like, knowing. I feel like.

[Julia]

I just feel like my senses are pretty on point. I can tell when I read something that's bullshit and when I read something that that's not true. And I remember someone said to me, I just have a feeling she's going to go back to country for 13 in some capacity.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And I think that's true.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Also, Taylor loves the charts.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

She loves. And she's not one to hide that. She thinks it's awesome.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

As I would, too.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And what's going number one on the charts? Country.

[Brett]

Yeah, that's so true. Yeah, that is so true.

[Julia]

Yeah. Which is kind of underrated in, like, a vilifying way. Like, you know, I mean, I feel like people always say that and, like, you know, she loves the charts. Wouldn't you. It's your job.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

It's like, why are we.

[Brett]

Who doesn't care about the charts?

[Julia]

Why are we pretending? My thing is just, like, why are we pretending that this isn't her job? I feel like with pop stars, it's like we are pretending that, like. Like, it's that weird idea that we just want to, like, hand them success and have them be like, thank you, and then take it away when we get the chance. No, it's her job. Yeah, it's her job.

[Brett]

And also, like, people, like, always say, like, would a pro athlete, like, run slower to, like, let someone else win? No.

[Julia]

Also, pro athletes care about championship rings.

[Brett]

That's what I'm saying.

[Julia]

That is Billboard. Like, whether you like to believe it as a music fan or not, that is what it is.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

I don't care. Like, the Grammy album of the year is the football championship of music.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

It's a Super Bowl.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

So that's why I get upset when she's. When people are, like, X, Y, and Z complaining about her structure and, like, how she does things. Like, listen, she's not gonna slow down to let others in front of her.

[Julia]

Yeah. It's, like, inherently super misogynistic.

[Brett]

I agree. And I think I. I will stand on this hill. And I know that people get annoyed when people say this, but if she was a man.

[Julia]

True.

[Brett]

It wouldn't be a conversation. It would not be a conversation.

[Julia]

It wouldn't. You hot.

[Brett]

It's hot in here.

[Julia]

Wow. I just got really heated.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

What else we're also passionate about.

[Julia]

Do you have any goals for your birthday this year?

[Brett]

You know, so. I'm sick.

[Julia]

Sorry.

[Brett]

I'm. Have you think?

[Julia]

Yeah, for sure.

[Brett]

I know you need to take vitamin C I know. I think that I'm doing something, like, on a, like, more formal scale this year. The past two years, I've done, like, a big, fun pregame, and then, like, we've gone out. But this year, I'm doing, like, a party.

[Julia]

That's your goal.

[Brett]

No, but I'm. I'm saying my goal. Can you let me talk. I'm saying my goal is for it to be fun because I meant, like.

[Julia]

For the year age 25.

[Brett]

Oh.

[Julia]

Like, I was like, that's your goal.

[Brett]

I thought you were talking about for, like, my actual birthday.

[Julia]

Oh, no, it's okay. I'm sorry. I feel mean.

[Brett]

Oh, it's okay. But let me finish my answer, and then I'll go into my new year. So I just want to not be, like, anxious and, like, have it. I hope it's fun.

[Julia]

It will be fine.

[Brett]

For my actual birthday, for the year of 25, I actually. Knock on wood. I really have high hopes for this year.

[Julia]

Don't play with me.

[Brett]

Knock on wood.

[Julia]

Wait, do you knock three times?

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Which, by the way, Jake has been doing that to do three times since I met him.

[Julia]

Really?

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

You would. In the car, you'd always say, do you have three times? And I'd be like, yes, always. But, like, I think my goal is to just, like, continue to grow in my career and, like, continue to. You know, I don't know. I just think that it's. It's a formative year, and, like, I feel so grateful. And I'm sure you feel the same way that, like, we do things that, like, we love so much at a young age. Like, I think that that's really cool.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Brett]

And so I just want to, like, continue in that. And, like, I feel like I have a lot of, like, cool things, like, coming my way and, like, maybe, like.

[Julia]

Growing your merch line.

[Brett]

Yeah, like, definitely some type of, like, business mention. I mean, like, my run club is dropping tomorrow, which, like, is very exciting.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And the comfiest sweater I own.

[Brett]

Oh, that's so nice.

[Julia]

I slept in it in Portland.

[Brett]

And you have been, like, standing on the bice run club since I showed you the.

[Julia]

Yeah, I think it's my favorite one.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

So, yeah, maybe that. I mean, I'm running Chicago in October. I'd like to run a spring marathon, ideally.

[Julia]

Whoa.

[Peyton]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brett]

Because think about it. I did Boston in April and then New York in November, which those were only six months apart, but it feels like they were, like, years apart, doesn't it?

[Julia]

Do you get triggered about Boston?

[Peyton]

No.

[Brett]

We can talk about it. I remember the worst day of my life.

[Julia]

We track Brett's every move on marathons. And I just remember, like. I just.

[Brett]

You especially are, like, tapped in.

[Julia]

I'm very tapped in. And I just remember you. Julia knew what you wanted. Like, Julia. Oh. Because she listens very, like, she listens.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

She knew the time you wanted.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

So I'm obviously like, let's go, let's go. And Julia's like, yeah, like, something happened because it was. She clocked that certain passageway.

[Brett]

Yeah. Because it was like, if you guys were tracking me on, like, the online or the app thing, like, it showed that, like, my overall pace was, like, slowing.

[Julia]

You know what my goal is for you? Aside from any marathon record, like, running wise, physically, I want you to be the number one most tracked person at the Chicago Marathon.

[Brett]

Me, too.

[Julia]

And Brett, where can they fucking find you?

[Brett]

What do you mean?

[Julia]

On the tracker app.

[Brett]

Oh, well, I don't have my bib or anything yet, but it's the Chicago marathon app, I believe. And you'll just search Brett Todi and.

[Julia]

We'Ll repurpose this clip when it happens. This is her bib number.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And search.

[Brett]

Because, like, Brett Chodi. Not to be like. But I was the second most tracked in New York, which I think was arguably, like, that's, like, in my mind, like, a bigger deal than if I were to be number one in Chicago. Because, like, New York is, like, understood.

[Julia]

But Chicago's your hometown. This is your hometown run. Yeah, but, yeah, Boston.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

I mean, it was like. It was just, like, high and like, it was just, like, a bad day. It was just.

[Julia]

Do you feel like. What did you feel like the second you finished? Were you, like, don't talk to me?

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

I saw my coach, like, right after I finished, and I just, like, started crying. I was like, kim did not go well. And she was.

[Julia]

But then New York.

[Brett]

Okay, New York was amazing. And then, like, yeah, I found Max. And that photographer took those photos, which, like, honestly, eight. Eight. Like, I would have, like, bonked in a million more marathons for.

[Julia]

To get those photos.

[Brett]

Photos. No, seriously, like, yeah, those photos are everything. And the fact that we didn't know they were being taken and the fact that someone found them randomly on Instagram and DM to me. So I found, like, I wouldn't have found the photographer. And those. My favorite photos.

[Julia]

Did you do. What's the spring marathon? London. London or don't play with me.

[Brett]

I know. I know you gotta come because you love Alice.

[Julia]

And I will. First Flight out to London, but, yeah.

[Brett]

It'S London or Boston. I'm still kind of figuring out.

[Julia]

Oh, you want redemption?

[Brett]

I'm gonna redo Boston, but I'll only do Boston if get a London bib, basically.

[Julia]

Is London the hardest?

[Brett]

London's the hardest to get into because they really prioritize, like UK citizens. So it's like lottery, but, like, I'm.

[Julia]

Hoping to, like, it's not based on merit.

[Brett]

No, I can't apply with, like, a good time, but I'm hoping to kind of, like, get in with nepotism.

[Julia]

What? What do you mean?

[Brett]

Like, as in, like, I'm a running influencer and they give out those bibs, which. There's actually been controversy about that recently. But, like, I think that you guys can agree that I would deserve it.

[Julia]

Yeah, I think you definitely deserve it.

[Brett]

Yeah, because, like, I'm a real runner. You know, there's all this discourse about people who aren't real runners getting bibs to the majors, and I don't really. I'm not going to, like, get into that, but, like, I'm a real runner, so.

[Julia]

Yeah, she's hit in the woods once.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Multiple times.

[Julia]

You're a runner.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Well, what was I going to say? London would be awesome. Tokyo would be even cooler.

[Brett]

Respectfully, Tokyo will be the last one I do of the majors.

[Julia]

I want you to kind of redemption arc Boston.

[Brett]

I will. And that's gonna be a sick day.

[Julia]

Yeah, that's gonna be awesome. I'm excited for Chicago.

[Peyton]

Yeah, me too.

[Brett]

What else do you want to talk about? Scandal do you want to talk about?

[Julia]

Oh, you know what I would love to talk about?

[Brett]

What?

[Julia]

Last night, me and Manny and Will went to one night only. Carly Ray Jepson.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Give Manny the damn mic, please. We saw Carly Rae Jepsen perform Emotion front to back. What songs do you know off Emotion? Just, like, if I'm like, here. Here is Carly Rae Jepset's Emotions. What song would you be like? I know this song. You know, run away with me is.

[Brett]

I want you in my room on Emotions.

[Manny]

No, no, that's undedicated.

[Brett]

Okay. I don't. I don't know. Then what else is on Emotions? I want you in my room is my favorite, though, also.

[Manny]

Let me just say it's Emotion.

[Brett]

Sorry, Emotion. Manny's a big Carly Rae.

[Julia]

Manny. Manny is Carly Ray. Yeah, right. That's what we'll say. He was like, that's Manny. Yeah, yeah. She's wearing a hat right now that says boy problems. Okay. So I think it's just crazy because every song is so U coded. LA Hallucinations is the most.

[Brett]

You coded me?

[Julia]

Yeah. What do you think?

[Manny]

Like, as far as being bright coded, like, what song?

[Julia]

If we're. Like, listen to it. Was she like, all of them.

[Manny]

All of them? I think if you like. If you like. I mean, okay. Taylor Swift is very, very, very different.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Manny]

However, if you are a Taylor Swift fan, I do think that you just inherently would like Carly's music.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

I honestly see her liking Warm Blood.

[Manny]

Yeah. Well, who wouldn't?

[Brett]

Okay.

[Manny]

I think, you know, Run Away With Me, though.

[Brett]

You said yes.

[Manny]

I mean, that's like, one of the greatest songs ever made.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

I was saying to Jake earlier, I was like, I'm kind of sad that she's not bigger.

[Manny]

I know, I'm.

[Julia]

And me, too. But selfishly, last night was one of the most magical nights of my life. It literally felt like a. Like it was 500 people at the Troubadour. Everybody. Manny was saying, like, everybody there knew every single word.

[Brett]

Yeah. Like, that's special.

[Manny]

And her parents were there, and she pointed them out, and they were sitting like, two rows ahead of us, and her dad kept filming everything. And it was so sweet.

[Brett]

Oh, that's really.

[Julia]

And it started like, I'm gonna get full body chills. It started. We just heard, and then she walked out on stage and it was like, wow, life is literally worth living. Like, I'm not even kidding. Like, it was so crazy.

[Brett]

And let me just say, you've been standing on Carly Ray since college, probably even before that. But I remember in college, you were like, no, brat. Like, she's the ultimate pop girl. Yada, yada, yada. And I was like, why? I only know her for Call Me Maybe I'm.

[Julia]

Emotion is just like. And the thing is, the reason why Emotion and people have written about this, the reason why Emotion didn't become bigger is because in order to be. It's not like a requirement, but it's often needed in order to be a main pop girl, in order for both, like, for everyone to find interest in. And it's. I think it's rooted a little bit. Not a little bit. I think it's rooted in misogyny. In order for a girl to become, like, a main pop girl, like, they need to divulge their personal life. Like, they need to have people interested in their own personal life.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Because people want to, like, take stake in what they're talking about. Whereas the Weeknd. I don't know who the fuck his songs Are about.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Like, you know what I mean? But he's like a main pop guy.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Manny]

She also hasn't dated anyone publicly or like anyone famous. At least that we know of. Like we don't know anything about.

[Julia]

Right. And that. And. And so no one's like. And that people say that is why Emotion didn't take off. Because the songs are so objectively good. Brett, like, what's the track list? Can you please pull up the track list? Like, pull up the damn track list.

[Brett]

Like the track list was like. Wait, so literally just the album.

[Julia]

She went front to back.

[Brett]

Is this her newest album? Motion?

[Julia]

Brett.

[Brett]

Sorry. I was celebrating 10 years.

[Manny]

It was the 10 year anniversary.

[Brett]

Sorry.

[Manny]

Okay. Run Away with me.

[Julia]

Run Away with me. So that opens the album. And that just like. Basically the beautiful part about Run Away With Me is because Emotion is. Oh, my full body chills. Emotion is a pop fantasy dreamland. So Run Away With Me starts and she's saying to the listener and her lover in this album, take my hand. Run away with me. And just like literally let go for this next hour of music. It is not that serious. This is fun. Run Away With Me. Like, wow. I'm serious. Okay, number two, Emotion.

[Brett]

I mean, was this her first album after. After Call Me maybe?

[Manny]

No, she had like one album before Call Me maybe. Yeah, this was the first one after.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Julia]

Yes. Because it had.

[Brett]

I really like you say oh. Oh, yeah.

[Julia]

Which by the way, still fox.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Manny]

That song is good. That song is like.

[Brett]

You would think it's.

[Manny]

I guess because the chorus is so repetitive and kind of like cheesy. You think it's a bad song? It's an amazing song. It's not bad in the slightest.

[Julia]

Oh, did I say too much? I'm so in my head like. Yeah. And also. Okay, what's after Emotion?

[Manny]

I really like you.

[Julia]

I really like you. Yes. Okay, great. But that's like a harder one to get people.

[Manny]

This one.

[Julia]

I know that one.

[Manny]

Underrated. Underrated.

[Julia]

Give me love, Give me love, Give me love Give me love, Give me love, Give me love, give me touch. Cause I want what I want what I want. Do you want too much?

[Brett]

I think you've played that one for me.

[Julia]

It's a banger. But like trust there. There are better next.

[Manny]

All that.

[Julia]

And that crescendo at the end. Alive Brat. Tell me if you want me if I oh that I will be your friend.

[Manny]

It also starts like a weird like 80s.

[Julia]

It's false. Scotty.

[Brett]

I feel like you're single handedly gonna like boost her streams.

[Julia]

Please, please listen to Emotion by Carly Rae Jepsen. Part three comes out in October. I'm dead ass. Serious. She had part B with Cut to the Feeling, which is the greatest pop song of all time. Like, don't even. Like, seriously, like, that's next. Next.

[Manny]

Boy problems. Duh.

[Julia]

Boy problems. You got them. I got them, too.

[Manny]

When she opened it, she said, who here has boy problems?

[Julia]

And everyone went, and it was batshit. And by the way, most respectful crowd ever, actually.

[Manny]

Yes.

[Brett]

That's so true.

[Julia]

Everyone was like, we talk. Like, we thought everyone was gonna, like, it was gonna be like, when I was getting out of there, like, everyone was like, oh, my God. Like, here you go. Go through. Like, I'm just happy to be with Ms. Carly Rae. Like, do you know what I mean?

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Okay, next.

[Manny]

Making the most of the night.

[Julia]

When she dropped this live, I mean, like, I nearly wet my pants. Like, I was literally like. Because I was like, okay, I'm excited for making the most of night. And then the chorus hit, and I was like. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I was like, making the most of the night. I know you had a rough time, but you know that one. But here I come. I'm a hijack you Hijack you. I love you. I Making the most of the night. Okay, next.

[Manny]

Your type.

[Julia]

So I can't talk about this song without seriously, like, you know what, Brett? Like, this is your song.

[Brett]

You think?

[Julia]

Because this is mine.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Julia]

And we have very similar tastes.

[Brett]

Yeah, we do.

[Julia]

I can't talk about this song, like, without being dramatic. Like, and I understand. I've spoken about every track with being dramatic. I don't know how to, like, tell you about this song. Okay. So she's saying I'm not the type of girl for you. I'm not going, oh, she's saying, like, I have a crush on this guy.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Julia]

But I'm not his type. But I don't want to be your friend. Like, I don't want to be your friend. I want to you.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Julia]

And I'm not your type. So do I just kill myself or what? And, like, Carly Rae Jepsen is our modern day Robin.

[Manny]

Totally.

[Brett]

You think?

[Julia]

I know so. I know so. And people are going to be like, he's wrong. I don't care.

[Brett]

No, I think you're right.

[Julia]

I'm right.

[Brett]

I think you're right.

[Julia]

That's my declaration.

[Peyton]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Julia]

Your type is dancing on my own.

[Brett]

Damn. Really?

[Julia]

So your type is my favorite song. Like, when she dropped it live, I literally. I Like, literally, like, moaned. Like, I was like, oh, my God, I knew every word. Like, I'm not the type of girl for you But I'm not oh, and I'm not going to pretend that I'm the type of girl you call more than a friend yeah, I break all the rules for you Break my heart and Come on, start again. I'm not the type of girl you call more than a friend what? I'll make time for you Time for you who? I'll make time for you okay, next.

[Brett]

That was really good.

[Julia]

Thanks. Like, we.

[Manny]

Let's get lost.

[Julia]

Okay.

[Manny]

I like this one.

[Julia]

I like it. I liked it last night.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Julia]

It's good. It's just like, you know, it's. I, I. There is no filler on this. It's just not for me, but I know it's objectively really good.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Julia]

Is this too much for you?

[Brett]

No, I'm honestly really enjoying this. I'm really enjoying this. Okay.

[Manny]

La hallucinations?

[Brett]

That's what you think I'll like?

[Julia]

So I didn't appreciate the song and flow until last night. Dreams are can't stop so you get enough. There's a big black hole in my. Are you poor? And I say stop. Like, yes. She shouts out buzzfeed. Like millennial queen. Like, she literally, like.

[Manny]

And TMZ crows.

[Brett]

Shut up.

[Julia]

And she's like, save me from these La hallucinations.

[Brett]

Damn.

[Julia]

And Max saves you from yours.

[Brett]

So fudgeing true. He does.

[Julia]

Oh, my God, it's the best song ever. When he was. I was literally like, okay, I want.

[Brett]

To listen to this.

[Julia]

She's like. You're like, oh, okay, next, Manny. Like, I'll let you take this one away.

[Manny]

Warm Blood. Literally best song ever made. It's amazing. It's. It literally starts like that in. In an amazing way.

[Brett]

Okay. The.

[Manny]

The guy standing in front of us turned around and screamed, this is my favorite. And I said, this is my favorite. And then we clutched hands.

[Julia]

I'm telling you, like, before you die, See? Carly Rae Jepsen Live Emotion Part three comes out in October. Do not be behind on the train. Do not make stupid decisions. I don't know how to explain it. Did she even do Call Me maybe last night?

[Manny]

No.

[Julia]

Good. She doesn't have to.

[Brett]

Oh, wait, no, no. She did.

[Julia]

She did. She did. Sorry.

[Brett]

She did.

[Manny]

It's because that was when I was.

[Julia]

Getting merch, but no one came to see. Call me maybe. You know the Call Me maybe girl? Put some motherfucking respect on her name.

[Brett]

That's what you're doing right now.

[Julia]

Don't cut a bit of this.

[Brett]

You're.

[Julia]

If you're educating, log off. Actually, don't. But I like.

[Brett]

I like Carly Rae.

[Julia]

My girl, by the way. Not even that. This is the point. But she looked amazing last night, love.

[Brett]

Like, she saw the bangs.

[Julia]

Yes, of course.

[Manny]

But she debuted a new hair color.

[Brett]

Blonde or what?

[Julia]

Like, Carly Ray is like, that's Manny's religion.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Like, I didn't know she debuted a new hair color.

[Peyton]

Wow.

[Brett]

A lot.

[Julia]

And you know who else I recently got you into, Brett?

[Brett]

Audrey Hobert.

[Julia]

Well, that could.

[Manny]

Don't even talk to me about her.

[Julia]

No, Like, Manny. Manny. We. We. Congratulations.

[Brett]

I've been listening to the album. It's all I've been listening to. And I know you. Literally.

[Manny]

I'm sorry. Rivals. Emotion. It's close. It is close.

[Brett]

Are you serious? They're different.

[Julia]

Okay. They're different. Audrey Hobert's is more. I relate more to Audrey Hobert's, like, on a relate. Relating level. Like, I relate it once I real.

[Brett]

Because sometimes I, like, listen to songs I don't, like, listen to the lyrics. You know what I mean? So I'm like, not really. I'm just, like, singing.

[Julia]

No. Yeah.

[Brett]

Once you told me, like, the meaning of Sex in the City, I was like, oh, like, I get why. I, like, why do you relate to it? I think that.

[Julia]

So Sex in the City is about going to a bar.

[Brett]

You said it yourself.

[Julia]

Hooking up with someone and going in an Uber alone.

[Brett]

You said it yourself.

[Julia]

And I.

[Brett]

And once you said it, I was like, oh, no.

[Julia]

Yes. I don't even watch Sex in the City. And that's on, like.

[Brett]

That's right.

[Julia]

Like in the car, you know, Thirst.

[Brett]

Trap is probably my favorite.

[Julia]

Or drive and Thirst Traps. The difference. And I will let it be known right now between Audrey Hobart and Carly Ray Jepsen. Audrey Hobart is not underrated. Everyone is, like, can universally agree. It is incredible. When Emotion came out, no one knew. I a know. I know, right? I know. I had to be taught.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Okay.

[Brett]

Who introduced you?

[Julia]

I. I follow a lot of music critics.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

On, like, I, like. The Swiftologist. Will talks music.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Like, I follow a bunch of.

[Brett]

But it was in college.

[Julia]

Yeah. And one of them popped up on my TikTok. They were like, where have you been? And I was like, wait, what are they talking about? Because, like, if you're telling me that there's some universally acclaimed pop album that I don't know about, like, I'm first in line.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Cutting People, I will say, like, you've been an early adapter of a lot of. A lot of pop girls. Charlie XX2.

[Julia]

Okay. So thank you. I technically was not early to Charlie. I actually technically was late.

[Brett]

But you were early for all of our friends.

[Julia]

For everyone else.

[Brett]

Yeah, you were early for.

[Julia]

Because I came to her for Crash, which was technically like, oh, you're hopping on. So before Brat, she had Crash, and I really hopped on the Charlie train during Crash.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And everyone was like, oh, you're hopping on during crash. Like you're not a real angel.

[Brett]

Like, who was saying that?

[Julia]

Charlie. XCX fans. They're like, you. Like. Like you weren't here. And they were right, I wasn't. But now I can say I was there for all the people that hopped on during Brat Sweating. But, you know, recently I put you on too.

[Brett]

Megan Rooney.

[Julia]

Yes.

[Peyton]

Yes.

[Julia]

And how much do you love her?

[Brett]

I am addicted to her.

[Julia]

I really. She's. I mean, she's performing to 15, 000 people screaming her lyrics. But I foresee her having like a Before he cheats moment.

[Brett]

I think so too. I mean, so many of her songs are so good. Like, Indifferent is so good.

[Julia]

It's banger after banger.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Hair salon, whatever. The hair salon one. I mean, amazing. And I. So I saw her at We Fest, this music festival in Minnesota, and it was awesome. And it felt so great to like, actually know some songs because then John Party went on and I was like, I don't know any of these songs exactly. He only has one, like Banger, Head Over Boots. And I was too drunk to even enjoy it.

[Julia]

Head Over Boots.

[Brett]

Yeah, I'm Head Over Boots. For you're the one I want.

[Julia]

Head Over Boots. Oh. Cause like, Head Over.

[Brett]

Head Over Heels.

[Julia]

Clever. I gave that one to you. Party John. What's his name? He's John Party. I'm sure he's great. Disclaimer. I'm sure he's great. Okay, should we take a break for a second? Like, maybe get some cool air? Like, dap our faces.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And when we get back, I'll tell you about my skincare routine. We are back.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And as promised, I am going to deliver my skincare routine.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Julia]

And I have one recently I've never had.

[Brett]

Really?

[Julia]

Yeah. Tell it's the road. Pineapple Face Wash. Oh, yeah.

[Brett]

You're addicted. I really want to try it.

[Julia]

I have some.

[Brett]

I'll try it.

[Julia]

I have very sensitive skin, so every time I try, I'm not. This isn't an ad, so I just. I Promised you my skincare routine.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And I've also bought the glazing milk because I saw some men try it on Tick tock and they were glowing.

[Brett]

You're a Rhodes, Dan.

[Julia]

I'm a road Stan.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

It's great products.

[Julia]

That's my skincare routine. Also, I've recently started using aftershave.

[Brett]

How's that?

[Julia]

It feels like when you take a mint.

[Brett]

It's like cold.

[Julia]

It's really cold.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Uses it and it smells really good.

[Julia]

It smells good. Yeah. That's what everyone's saying. They love the smell of aftershave.

[Brett]

So I guess I love the smell of after Max's aftershave.

[Julia]

Right?

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

So I'm a little hungover from that Carly Ray talk, but I will say we played her LA hallucinations.

[Brett]

It was really good.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

You need to listen to it in the car.

[Brett]

But I. I also like want to listen to like that like the album now.

[Julia]

Like, I want to run t back.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

It's just like each song is so good, it's sometimes hard to appreciate them individually all at the same time. You have to come to each song in your own over time.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Julia]

Does that make sense? Like, do you know what I mean?

[Brett]

Kind of like folklore and evermore clock it.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

That's why people when Taylor put out ttpd. Each song is objectively amazing.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

I don't care what you have to say. And each song is objectively amazing. It was so much music at once that it gave like people the opportunity to be like, this is bad.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Do you know what I mean?

[Brett]

But it's not actually the TTPD hate pissed me.

[Julia]

Right. It was a tough day.

[Brett]

Do you remember when you had your moment with Down Bad?

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Brett]

And we played it like, because you. Five fucking times back to back in the car.

[Julia]

Because you come to the song when it needs you.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

You come to the song when it needs you.

[Brett]

I really get.

[Julia]

You're like, oh, yeah. One more time.

[Peyton]

Yep.

[Julia]

One more time.

[Peyton]

Yep.

[Julia]

One more time.

[Brett]

Yep.

[Julia]

And happened to be with Daddy. I love But Daddy, I love him. Which to this day, top five. Actually. You know what? Let's have a little fun. I'm going to give you my top five. I used to do top three. Let's go top five.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Julia]

Because I can give it to you.

[Brett]

Okay. Let me hear it.

[Julia]

Number one, the Archer like.

[Peyton]

Yes.

[Julia]

She's not moving.

[Peyton]

Yes.

[Julia]

She sat.

[Brett]

She's your number one.

[Julia]

She sat.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Number two, Daylight.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Strong. I just. I can smell the subway. I can like, I remember the time of my life. Everyone was still social distancing on the subway. Like, yeah. I was. My first time back in New York from the pandemic I could like. It just means so much to me.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Number two, Daylight. Number three. But daddy, I love him.

[Brett]

Are you serious, Brett? I mean, the song, amazing.

[Julia]

Like.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

I don't know how to talk about it. Like, that song, to me is so important.

[Brett]

It's so cinematic.

[Julia]

It's also the first time Taylor's clapped back at critics, But Taylor's never been. Never been. Like, some of you are crazy.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Do you know what I mean? And yeah. On. But, daddy, I love him. She's like, stop. Yeah, I love him. I don't care. I don't care.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Number four. Call it what you want. Obviously, if you know me, you know number five, test the damn season. No.

[Brett]

1989. Your top five.

[Julia]

I love 1989.

[Brett]

I thought that's your favorite.

[Julia]

It is as a whole album. I understand, but these singles are my favorite songs.

[Brett]

Okay?

[Julia]

They are my favorite songs. And you can come here and you can tell me I'm wrong. I don't really give a. Yeah. That is my opinion.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And those are my top five.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Julia]

I'm trying to think. Yeah. I love 1989, but there's. Do you remember my out of the woods face?

[Brett]

Yes, of course.

[Julia]

Every mother day.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Play it, play it, play it, play it.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

It was like the first time it was ever introduced to a bridge or something. I don't really know what happened.

[Brett]

You know what I remember so vividly of our Taylor drives in college is when we rediscovered this is why we can't have nice things. And we were driving down.

[Julia]

It was just us, too.

[Brett]

It was just us, too. We were driving down Hoover going back to new mansion, and we were like.

[Julia]

This is why we can't have nice things, darling. Oh. Because you break them, I have to take them away. This is why we can't have nice things. Huh?

[Brett]

Nice.

[Julia]

Oh, did it to you.

[Brett]

This is why we can't have nice things. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Julia]

And you know when I refill in love with that song?

[Brett]

What?

[Julia]

Closed out the rap tour with it.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Oh, you know what we didn't do? And people have honestly been asking me in my. When I did siriusxm interviews, they were like, how are you going to celebrate album release day? We actually celebrated every time. Usually Julia's here. She's not.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Maybe she'll fly out.

[Brett]

Yeah, maybe.

[Julia]

But we have a set plan every time. Brett, do you want to tell them What? I like how we do it.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

So, well, which one should we start with? Red.

[Julia]

Okay, so I fearlessly. I was. No, I was. I was not present. Okay.

[Brett]

Jake missed our fearless Taylor's version.

[Julia]

Listen, I regret it every day. I went to Brett's room and I said, are you serious? And she said, I'm not talking to you.

[Brett]

I was mad.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And then.

[Brett]

We laugh about it now.

[Julia]

And then I said I was into the Sirius XM thing. I was like, okay, so we'll do a Taylor workout class. And then I said, holy fuck, no we won't. You have the marathon the following week.

[Brett]

But for Red release night because it's 9pm Pacific, which is just like the biggest blessing of living in LA ever.

[Julia]

Like, if you should move to LA for one reason, it's that.

[Brett]

It's that we don't stay up till midnight. But we did Shibuya for dinner.

[Julia]

I think we should do Shibuya again.

[Brett]

I think we should tell.

[Julia]

But we watch Miss Americana right before it drops.

[Peyton]

Oh, yeah.

[Julia]

I would say we should put on the ERAS tour during the day.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

We'll have the errors. We're on all day. And then we. We filmed our reaction to all too Ultimate Aversion.

[Julia]

Why we we now we set up the camera for the whole thing.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And no, let's like start out how we're going to do it. We're going to wake up.

[Brett]

We're going to wake up and we're.

[Julia]

Going to go get our coffee from my. Our favorite coffee place of the month. That is what we are going to do. We also take the day off.

[Peyton]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Julia]

It's a holy day.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

You have Sunday. We have that.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Like, yeah, we. It's a very holy day for us. We'll wake up. Whoa. We've been talking about this for quite some time. We wake up.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

We. We're gonna go get coffee and we start listening to old stuff.

[Brett]

Taylor all day.

[Julia]

Back in the Taylor's version days, we would listen to the old albums to mourn.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

And we'd be like, goodbye, goodbye.

[Julia]

And we're done.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Because unlike some of you, we only listened to Taylor's versions.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

When we were told I would get.

[Brett]

Upset if someone played a non Taylor's version.

[Julia]

Yeah. And then someone once accused me of doing a non Taylor's version and I said, do you know me at all?

[Brett]

Wait. One time I was tagged in a girl who did Taylor Song of the Day and it wasn't Taylor's version. I didn't notice. So I Deleted it once. I noticed.

[Julia]

Can I say hi? I would have done the same thing.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Thank you.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

But we'll get coffee, we'll come home, we'll sit. Probably have phone time for about three hours.

[Brett]

Yeah, we'll. We'll need to do a lot to, like, pass the time.

[Julia]

We'll do a pre ranking, obviously.

[Brett]

Pre ranking, of course. And we'll post that for sure. And then it'll get closer to nine and we'll be, like, hyperventilating.

[Julia]

We'll probably take a nap to pass the time. Yeah, we'll go get dinner at Shibuya, probably. We'll. We'll have to leave here at 4.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

It's traffic to the Valley at that time. It's just diabolical.

[Julia]

We'll go to Shabuya 5, and then we'll get home, and then we'll put on maybe like, rep tour. No, I don't know if right before the new album drops, I want to listen to old music.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

That's when we do Miss Americana.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And then it's album time.

[Brett]

And you want to know what I think is so special about the Taylor album releases? It's obviously the night of, but what's honestly even more special is the next fucking morning, Brad.

[Julia]

I said that yesterday when. You said that yesterday. When you wake up and you're like.

[Brett]

I have a full new album to listen to.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

I have a whole new album. I have 12 new tracks.

[Brett]

And something so special happened to me the day after Tortured Poets came out. I was on a walk. I was in my era stuff, and girls stopped me. They were like, you listening? And I was like, listening.

[Julia]

That's community. And it's like, that's community. That's community. When I. When. When I was on FaceTime with Brett and Julia and we were waiting for the announcement for. For the life of the showgirl. Life of a showgirl. This girl that came running up to me was like, wait, you too? And I was like, me too.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

And like, yeah.

[Julia]

It's community.

[Brett]

It really is. It's gonna be really special. And it's really. I mean, it's far away, but it's also right around the corner. I think it's gonna get here sooner than we think, girl.

[Julia]

Time. Time makes you bolder.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

That didn't make sense.

[Peyton]

No.

[Brett]

Time makes you what?

[Julia]

Time moves fast.

[Brett]

Time moves fast as we get older, which is the scary thing. So.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Should we get into the Tell me what's wrongs?

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Whoa. I, like, feel like I'm In a haze.

[Brett]

The only thing is, I didn't do my top five. Do you think people are going to be like, oh, I want to hear Brett's top five?

[Julia]

Yeah. And you know what? That's on me.

[Brett]

That's okay. We got carried away.

[Julia]

Give it to them.

[Brett]

Okay, well, so here's the thing. Can I go on a little bit of a tangent, please? Number one used to be Cruel Summer.

[Julia]

Number one isn't Cruel Summer anymore.

[Brett]

Let me talk about it. It was Cruel Summer before the Cruel Summer renaissance. And I am so happy that the song got the recognition it deserved because it is such an incredible song. But, like, it was number one when it was like. Like, if you know, you know. And, like, it still is, but now it's, like, almost, like, too. Too basic to be my number one. You know what I mean?

[Julia]

I get it.

[Brett]

But it means so much to me.

[Julia]

Right.

[Brett]

Cruel Summer. So, like, I'm wondering if I can, like, like, put it with all too ultimate aversion.

[Julia]

That's in your top. I mean, I understand that's in your top five.

[Brett]

No, no. Ultimate. Ultimate aversion. I feel like it's his own entity with Swifties.

[Julia]

100%.

[Brett]

I feel like that's, like, an understood thing. It's like our top five doesn't include ultimate version.

[Julia]

Yeah. It's not fair.

[Brett]

Because it's not fair.

[Julia]

No other song is 10 minutes.

[Brett]

It's its own entity, and it's like everyone loves it if you're a true substy, but it's like its own entity. So it's not taking a spot in the top five.

[Julia]

Right. So what is your top five?

[Brett]

Okay, so, like, I don't know whether or not to put Cruel Summer.

[Julia]

Just don't you put it in a different entity.

[Brett]

Okay, I put it in, so.

[Julia]

But just know that it's number one.

[Brett]

Okay. Try to show it as number one.

[Julia]

I mean, it's obviously number one.

[Brett]

Cruel Summer. But again, before the crossover hype for number two, I'm gonna go delicate.

[Julia]

Really?

[Brett]

Just because. Yes, because I've always really loved it, and it's really special to me. And Max.

[Julia]

Cute.

[Brett]

And he really liked it. And, like, it were, like. We both listened to it a lot in the beginning stages of our relationship, and then it was in his Spotify rap top five. It was his number four song, which made me, like, literally melt. Yeah, yeah. All the time. He listens to Delicate all the time on his own.

[Julia]

Oh, I'll kill myself.

[Brett]

And Exile. He likes Exile. He only likes a few, like, really, like, a lot he loves. He, like, loves that. I love Taylor, but the ones he listens to on his own are delicate. Don't blame me. Exile. The one.

[Julia]

I love. The one.

[Brett]

Whatever. I think it's that. But anyway. Okay. So delicate. 3. This is so hard.

[Julia]

I know.

[Brett]

Like, it's like, I feel like I'm gonna forget things. And, like. But, like, low key for three, I think. August.

[Julia]

You love August. Come on.

[Brett]

Love August.

[Julia]

Yeah. You've always loved.

[Brett]

I've always.

[Julia]

Get comfortable.

[Brett]

No, that's okay. You knew your thing.

[Julia]

Keep going.

[Brett]

And then number four.

[Julia]

I think I'm sick.

[Brett]

I think you're sick, too. And, like, don't get me sick.

[Julia]

I know. That's why I'm like.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

You hear it?

[Brett]

I hear it for number four. Style.

[Julia]

Totally.

[Brett]

I love Style. I can't get enough of it. And then for number five.

[Julia]

Yeah, it's hard.

[Brett]

It's just. It's so goddamn hard.

[Julia]

Let me, like, try to guess your number five.

[Brett]

Yeah. Do you want to try to guess it? Because maybe it's something I'm not even fucking thinking about. It feels sacrilegious to not put anything for midnights, bro. But it also feels sacrilegious to not put anything from torture poets. Do I move style?

[Peyton]

No.

[Brett]

Style needs to stay. Because I love the pop king of my heart. No, that's not. No, no.

[Julia]

I think don't just do it to diversify the albums.

[Brett]

I'm not. But I'm really thinking and, like, you know what? It might be down bad.

[Julia]

Really?

[Brett]

No. I don't know. Down bad was really high up there in my Spotify wrapped. And I, like, realized how much I.

[Julia]

Love the song Daylight. You love Daylight?

[Brett]

Honestly?

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Daylight.

[Julia]

You love Daylight.

[Brett]

Daylight.

[Julia]

Okay.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Okay, tell me what's wrong.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

I found a secret Twitter account my boyfriend has for watching spicy content. Should I be upset? We've been together for almost five years and he made it in January. I want to bring it up, but I found it by snooping on his phone. Oh, so you, like, can't when he was asleep. So he will definitely be upset about that.

[Brett]

Okay, can I just say, I have only learned in the recent weeks that that stuff exists on Twitter.

[Julia]

You didn't know about Twitter porn?

[Brett]

No, I didn't know about Twitter porn. See if you found it by snooping. Like, it's like, I don't know. It's like, it depends and, like, you can't know. But, like, I feel like for some guys, like, some porn is, like, normal. Like, watching porn is normal.

[Julia]

I don't really?

[Brett]

Like, I don't think it's something to be upset about. Unless he's, like, thinking about, like, watching all the time.

[Julia]

Well, maybe it's because I'm gay, but, like, gay guys watch porn all the time.

[Brett]

I feel like a lot of men in general watch porn all the time. I actually think it's, like, slightly an issue.

[Julia]

It's an addiction.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

But that's a topic for another time. But, like, I don't know.

[Julia]

Like, I obviously, like, oh, it's just. You can't be like, I snoop.

[Brett]

You know what you should do? Which is, like, maybe this is toxic of me, but, like, have him on Twitter and then be like. Like, oh, what's your other account?

[Julia]

Oh, like, be like, wait, can I show you this tweet?

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

And then, like, accidentally tap something and then be like, what's this?

[Julia]

Yeah. Because you can go through different accounts. Oh, that's genius, Brett.

[Brett]

Thanks. Thanks.

[Julia]

Wait, that's genius. And then he can't yell at you for snooping.

[Brett]

I mean, I don't have a second Twitter, but I'm pretty sure it's probably just, like, Instagram and that. Like, there's, like a. There's, like a tap and, like, it switches. So that's what I would do. Honestly. Sorry to be shady, but you gotta.

[Julia]

Do what you gotta do. Yeah, we prescribe vigilante.

[Brett]

That part.

[Julia]

I went out with all my friends to Vegas for my 25th birthday. Long story short, I blacked out. And my friends informed me that I lost all my money, like, even some of my savings. Oh, and Loki made out, slash, dance with a male stripper at a club. Okay, well, that part sounds fun. I'm not single. I am not wealthy. How do I recover?

[Brett]

Well, did you lose the money?

[Julia]

Yes.

[Brett]

I thought she just said her friends told her, like, is it for sure gone?

[Julia]

So she needs to check on that. And then secondly, about the male stripper. Yeah, I would feel good about that, I think. But the first part, like, you know, like, there has been times where I, in college, lost all of my money.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And, like, I just had to, like, take a few weeks off.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And earn it back.

[Brett]

And you would.

[Julia]

And earn it back.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Had a fun time.

[Brett]

You would, like, be like, I'm not gonna get coffee out, like, every day. Or.

[Julia]

Which is like, my mom will be like, that's not. Like, that's.

[Brett]

Or maybe you never didn't get coffee out, would you? Like, what? Not.

[Julia]

I wouldn't. Like, I would make my friends pay for me. Yeah. I would make My friends pay for me.

[Brett]

I would do it.

[Julia]

Yeah, so just make your friends pay for you for a few weeks and be like, and by the way, I'm not paying you back.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

I also think the second part of that was that she's not single and she made out with the stripper. So she was like.

[Brett]

Cheated on her boyfriend. She's not single.

[Julia]

Oh.

[Brett]

That's why I'm like, oh.

[Julia]

Oh. Okay. So I would address that differently. I'm so sorry I'm such a bad listener. But, like, so you're gonna have to let your boyfriend know.

[Brett]

Yeah, you should let him know, but.

[Julia]

Or girlfriend, but you have to let them know.

[Brett]

But it's like. Like, are we sure your friends are telling the truth? Like, I'd be paranoid.

[Julia]

I would never lie to someone about that.

[Brett]

Yeah, but like, what if her friends are bad friends? Like, it's giving. Like, you were so bad. You know?

[Julia]

I hate when people say that.

[Brett]

I know. So I'm like, even if I was.

[Julia]

I get it. Yeah, Okay. I understand.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

You were so bad. You were so bad last night.

[Brett]

No, like, it's giving me.

[Julia]

That is the most threatening. That is the most threatening sentence in human history.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. If you're listening to this and you still have the. They have a category in the last cultures awards for most threatening, like, sentence that you need to add that. Yeah, you were bad last night.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Yeah, but I would maybe. I mean, I don't know. Tell your boyfriend.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Call your girlfriend. Do you like that song? We're one in the same. My roommate came home. Absolutely. Oh, and also we obviously. You know what I'm gonna prescribe. One, two, three. Wait. Huh? Wait, we're gonna prescribe Waking up in Vegas.

[Brett]

Oh, duh.

[Julia]

My Roommate by Katy Perry. My roommate came home absolutely obliterated. One night at 6am in the morning, my girlfriend woke me up to the sound of li streaming. She made me go check it out, and when I got to my door, there was a huge puddle. I opened my eyes and my roommate was standing there, eyes closed, fully nude and pissing on my door. He might sleepwalk or something. But how TF do I handle this situation? Look, so while your experience might sound unique, I've actually heard of this happening before.

[Brett]

Yeah, me too.

[Julia]

And some people just do that when they're drunk. And you might gotta whip out the. Oh, you were bad last night.

[Brett]

So, so true. And like, clean up my door.

[Julia]

Yeah. Clean out my door.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And thank God that P is sterile.

[Peyton]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Julia]

Like, some people's kinks is peeing each other.

[Brett]

He's terrible.

[Julia]

Yeah, like infamously. Yeah. That's why people can, like, golden shower.

[Brett]

Ew. Ew.

[Julia]

One of my friends can queef on command. And it used to be funny, but now she won't stop doing it. I'm not even gonna read the rest of this because if my friend could queef on command, I would let them do it whenever they wanted. Next. Good for her.

[Brett]

That's a talent.

[Julia]

I will say I'm happy that she can queef on command. I think I might. But like, what does the rest say? Because I am curious. Like, she'll just randomly queef mid combo and it's starting to piss me off. How do I tell her to knock it off without sounding like a hater? Well, you're a hater.

[Brett]

It's so funny.

[Julia]

That is funny. I think I might have a God complex. I'm very independent, work for myself and make enough money to live. And I'm in my early 20s. My friend group is all people still in college, so they have their bills paid for respectfully. However, there's a huge disconnect between between us and my pride makes me scoff at criticism and boosts my ego to the point where I'm getting uncomfortable with it. How do I remedy this and come back down to earth?

[Brett]

Wow, you are so self aware.

[Julia]

Yeah, I think. Yeah, you are very self aware. And like, that's the first step.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

So you're just too lazy to take step number two.

[Brett]

What's up?

[Julia]

Number two, Implementing what you've realized.

[Brett]

Right.

[Julia]

Because you've realized it.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

So implement it.

[Brett]

Right.

[Julia]

I'm talking to myself too. So I'm not just being harsh on you.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

But like, also, like, if you got.

[Julia]

Your bills paid, you're independent.

[Brett]

You're like, why do I not good for you? Yeah. Why do I like, not think, like, have. Have a God complex like that? You should be proud of yourself.

[Julia]

Agreed.

[Brett]

Right.

[Julia]

I agree.

[Brett]

Yeah, sorry. Not to be like toxic, but like.

[Julia]

No, I agree.

[Brett]

You don't need to rub it in your friends faces. But it's like if you think it about yourself, like, who cares? Who cares?

[Julia]

I would prescribe Independent Women part two by Destiny's Child.

[Peyton]

Okay.

[Julia]

I signed a lease with my best friend to move across the country together after college. While we were packing and she was already in the other state. My just broken up with ex boyfriend who I dumped because of distance, told me that they had hooked up numerous times while we were together. He just wanted me to know before Living with her for four full context now I hate them both. This happened a week ago and I literally signed a 12 month lease. What the. First of all, you need to watch Tell me lies Naturally, because this happens immediately. Yeah, but like, not in the same sense, but in a similar one. I don't. Can you break a lease? Can you break a lease?

[Brett]

Like, no, but like, I think that's. That would warrant being like you to your friend. Like, find a roommate.

[Julia]

And I will put up ads too for the room. But like, I'm not living here.

[Peyton]

Yeah, agreed.

[Julia]

I'm a 25 year old grown ass woman and my mom is still babying me. Same. But my dad, it was sweet at first, especially since we're close and have a good relationship, but now it's egregious and to the point where I'm worried about her satisfaction in her own life. What controversial pointers do you have for me to bring this up to her without hurting her feelings? Controversially. Controversially. What's the harm if it makes her happy?

[Brett]

I feel like it depends what she's doing.

[Julia]

What's she doing? Like, she just calls you a lot. Like, she's your mom. Yeah, like it's okay if it makes her happy. Like, and respectfully, at this point, I feel like she's at the 8. Like, if my kid came to me and was like, how are you feeling in your own life? I'd be like, excuse me? Yeah, like, you know what I mean? It's like my dad babies me a lot too. And it's like you just need to not baby yourself and you need to like, I don't know if it makes her happy. Who cares?

[Brett]

Yeah, it's a fine line of parents because like, I, I, like, I understand. Maybe it's annoying, but it's like something crazy about growing up and becoming an adult is like realizing like, your parents are just human too and they're just grown up children. And they're just grown up children. And so like, maybe it's just like that, maybe that makes her happy. And like, if she's like, like if she's overstepping, like, then you can discuss boundaries in terms of like that. But like, if she's just like calling a lot or like wanting to treat you to stuff, like just. Yeah, let her.

[Julia]

If she's like paying for your stuff, pay for your own stuff. Be like, hey, mom, I'm gonna pay for my own stuff. I feel like I can.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Julia]

So proud of you.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

I'm throwing my own 30th birthday party. And as silly as it sounds, I want a theme. I don't think that sounds silly at all. My friends tell me it's stupid to have a theme at 30. Your friends suck, much less throw my own party. I hate your friends. But them. Lmao. Agreed. So nothing's really wrong. But help me come up with a theme, please. I like horses, yoga. Sex in the City. Your podcast. Thanks. Etc. Obviously, do a Sex in the City.

[Brett]

Sex in the City.

[Julia]

Look, I don't watch Sex in the City, but I recently found out that they're in their 30s for that show.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

And that seems correct.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Do Sex in the City.

[Brett]

I think. Do Sex in the City. If you're from Cosmos.

[Julia]

Cosmos. Dress up. And if your friends won't. They hate fun. Yeah, they hate fun.

[Brett]

That's something that, like, Max's friends, they love a theme. And, like, I love that they love it.

[Julia]

Hold on to your inner child.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Hold on to the memories. They will hold on to you.

[Brett]

Yeah. I needed a second.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

One of my friends. One of my friends is the worst time management ever. She stayed with me recently and every single event, we were late because of her. Peyton. I hate being late. I love this girl to bits. And we joke together about how bad at timekeeping she is, and I always give her reminders on the day to help her stay in time, but she is still late. And it started. And it has started to piss me off recently. What can I do? Every friend of yours is. I've said it is going to have.

[Brett]

A fatal, fatal flaw.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Brett]

It's just your friends just, like, don't go with her to things. It's going to piss you off.

[Julia]

You know what? The only thing you can do is. I'll meet you there.

[Peyton]

Yep.

[Julia]

Brett does. Brett wants to leave places early all of the time.

[Peyton]

Yep.

[Julia]

And we used to bicker about it, but now she's like, hey, I'm just gonna drive separately. And like.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

I'm like, I'm gonna leave early and.

[Brett]

I'll leave when I want.

[Julia]

Yeah, done. Next question. Yeah, it's a fatal flaw. It's not worth ruining a friendship over.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Honestly. And I think that's it. Okay, Brett, what did we learn today? But more importantly, what did you learn at 24?

[Brett]

Oh, okay. Well, what did I learn today? Carly. Rye. Yeah, obviously, I'm gonna go listen.

[Julia]

Yeah, you have to.

[Brett]

I actually will just.

[Julia]

The standard. Do the standard for yourself at first. She has a lot of, like, deluxe. She has the B side and she's doing the C sides. In October, as I said.

[Brett]

And then in terms of what I learned at 24, I think I did well to backtrack to 23. I did a lot of growth internally and on myself in 23. And then I think that really allowed me to flourish in 24.

[Julia]

You had a great 24?

[Brett]

I think I had a great 24. And I think that I just. I'm really proud of myself for, like, the position I've put myself in with friends, with work, with, like, my relationship. Like, I'm just really happy with my life, which I think is. I'm very grateful because, like, a few years ago, like, I was down in the dumps. Let me just tell you that.

[Julia]

It was not good.

[Brett]

It was not good. And so I just. I'm excited for this year. And I think that it's also, like, I really want to, like, reassure people that, like, it gets better post grad.

[Julia]

So much better.

[Brett]

And, like, now I don't miss college.

[Julia]

I don't miss college at all.

[Brett]

Here's the thing I miss. I miss aspects of college. Like, oh, like, a game day would be so fun. But, like, I don't miss college.

[Julia]

Neither do I. And, like, honestly, I love my new room so much. And I would have never had that room in college.

[Brett]

Exactly. We would have never had this house in college.

[Julia]

We would have never done what we're doing in college. And I. Yeah.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

So. Yeah.

[Peyton]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Well, Brett, I love you so much.

[Brett]

I love you so much.

[Julia]

Happy birthday.

[Brett]

Thank you.

[Julia]

And we are gonna have the best weekend ever.

[Peyton]

Yay.

[Julia]

Say a little bye.

[Brett]

Bye. Love you.