I Have Some Thoughts Minisode | Nara Smith, Kennedy Ryan, & Young Miami

Summary

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Therapy for Black Girls: "I Have Some Thoughts Minisode | Nara Smith, Kennedy Ryan, & Young Miami"

Host: Dr. Joy Harden Bradford
Guest Co-Host: Bria
Date: July 10, 2026
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This minisode of Therapy for Black Girls dives into three timely pop culture stories, each viewed through a thoughtful mental health lens. Dr. Joy and Bria reflect on the public sharing of personal and family hardships (inspired by influencer Nara Smith), the blurred lines of online authenticity and boundaries (spurred by author Kennedy Ryan’s pseudonym reveal), and debates about representation and musical influence (centering on Yung Miami’s summer anthem and India Arie’s critique). The hosts mix empathy, clinical insight, and humor to explore not only how these stories affect those involved but also how listeners can care for themselves amidst similar challenges.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Nara Smith’s Public Sharing of Her Daughter’s Cancer Diagnosis

[01:33–05:51]

• Background: Influencer Nara Smith disclosed her two-year-old daughter Whimsy’s cancer diagnosis on Instagram. She acknowledged the difficulty of deciding whether or not to share this publicly and extended solidarity to families in tough moments.
• The Parental Balancing Act:
  • Parents must stay emotionally present for their children without overburdening them with adult anxieties.
  • Dr. Joy: “You want to show your kids that you’re human...but also not wanting to adultify them and bring them into an adult’s experience. So it is a really tough line.” (02:42)
• Practical Tips for Caregivers:
  • Age-appropriate honesty is key.
    • “It is okay to have age appropriate conversations...like, oh, mommy has things that make her worry too...But also making sure you have an adult support system.” (02:42)
  • Create and rely on adult support systems (partners, friends, therapists, faith leaders).
  • Connect with peer support groups for families facing illness to combat isolation.
    • “So much of this is about isolation...talking to other families...can be really, really helpful.” (04:32)
  • Therapy can help process grief and mismatched life expectations.
  • Deliberately seek out moments of joy and levity, even in difficulty.
    • “Still looking for moments of joy...even when there are situations that are really difficult also really helps to keep you grounded.” (05:39)
• Taking Breaks from the Internet:
  • Bria emphasizes, “Taking a break from the Internet is also fine too. Like, obviously, it's a huge thing to be dealing with, so sending all the love and care to her way as well.” (05:51)

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2. Kennedy Ryan’s Pseudonym and Online Authenticity

[05:51–12:20]

• Background: Popular romance novelist Kennedy Ryan revealed that her pen name is not her legal name (a common practice, especially when an employer requires separation from creative pursuits). Some fans felt “betrayed” at the discovery.
• Why Do Audiences Feel Entitled?
  • The hosts connect this to parasocial relationships—fans imagine closeness with public figures, and the internet “flattens our humanity...we exist almost in these little boxes where we are almost avatars.” (07:44)
  • Dr. Joy: “I think whenever you see a reaction that feels outsized to what the actual event is, it is usually something deeper...dig deeper into why are you reacting so strongly.” (08:53)
• Intersectionality and the Unique Scrutiny on Black Women:
  • “I do think that there is this sense of entitlement, of course, to black women's privacy. And...because I'm a supporter, I am entitled to these things. And so I am sure that that heightened the [pressure] with Kennedy as well.” (10:06)
• Setting Healthy Boundaries Online:
  • Bria asks, “How can everyday people set healthier boundaries around what they share online without feeling like they're being inauthentic?” (10:33)
  • Dr. Joy cautions re: the myth of “online authenticity”—who does it serve, and at what cost?
    • “Authenticity, while it is good for virality, is often really bad for your mental health when we're talking about online spaces.” (11:09)
  • Suggests cultivating smaller, trusted communities rather than oversharing with strangers for a sense of connection.
  • The pandemic’s shift in digital socializing is noted (“...it really does feel like a lot of it changed with the 2020 pandemic...how people are like engaging on social media. I feel like it just went up a few notches.” (12:04))

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3. India Arie, Yung Miami, and Debates About Media Influence

[15:22–20:25]

• The Controversy:
  • India Arie publicly criticized Yung Miami’s hit song "Spin That Now" (called “song of the summer” by many, and reached #25 on Billboard Hot 100), agreeing with a Threads user who called for a boycott, suggesting “everything you listen to or eat will influence you. And...not everyone wants to be free.” (Paraphrased)
• The Psychology of Media Influence:
  • Dr. Joy makes a “media diet” analogy:
    • “If we're using the analogy of everything that you eat also impacts your health and those kinds of things, we know that all things in moderation are okay right now. Do you want to have a diet that consists of completely of Doritos? Probably not, but it is okay to have some Doritos in every now and then.” (16:42)
  • It’s okay to have both fun, frivolous music and more serious, affirming art—representation and a “variety” of media are key.
  • Concentrated attention on singular Black women artists is, in part, because of a lack of diversity and visibility in the mainstream.
    • “Would there be so much concern about Spin That if we had a lot of other representation, but because it only feels like the industry will kind of hold up one black girl at a time, then there is outsized attention on songs like this.” (17:38)
• Intentional Media Consumption:
  • Be mindful of moderation and the mix in your “media playlist.”
  • “If you have a well rounded...media diet of things that are a little more silly...and also things...to feel grounded...it really is about being intentional.” (18:21)
  • Community and real-life role models are necessary; don’t let music be your sole source of identity or representation.
    • “If your only representation and your only connection to black women is through music, then...there is also something going on.” (19:10)
• Song of the Summer?:
  • The hosts share their picks (Spin That Now and Don Tolliver’s trending tracks), noting TikTok’s growing impact on music trends.
    • “I also think it's so funny that, like, so much about it gets impacted by, like, what we hear on TikTok now, which of course is, like, a thing...That could be an interesting conversation for another day.” (20:25)

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Notable Quotes

• Mental Health & Sharing
  • Dr. Joy: “You want to show your kids that you're human...but also not wanting to adultify them and bring them into an adult's experience. So it is a really tough line.” (02:42)
• Community Support
  • Dr. Joy: “So much of this is about isolation...talking to other families...can be really, really helpful.” (04:32)
• Online Parasociality
  • Dr. Joy: “The Internet just really flattens our humanity, right? Like, we exist almost in these little boxes where we are almost avatars to one another as opposed to actual living, breathing humans.” (07:44)
• Authenticity Online
  • Dr. Joy: “Authenticity, while it is good for virality, is often really bad for your mental health when we're talking about online spaces.” (11:09)
• Music/Messaging Analogy
  • Dr. Joy: “Do you want to have a diet that consists completely of Doritos? Probably not, but it is okay to have some Doritos every now and then. ...Same with our media diet.” (16:42)
• Representation & Industry Pressure
  • Dr. Joy: “Because it only feels like the industry will kind of hold up one black girl at a time, then there is outsized attention on songs like this.” (17:38)

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Segment Timestamps

• Intro & Nara Smith’s Story: [01:16–05:51]
• Public Sharing, Caregiver Boundaries, & Strategies: [02:41–05:51]
• Kennedy Ryan’s Pseudonym & Online Boundaries: [05:51–12:20]
• India Arie vs. Yung Miami, Music, Media & Influence: [15:22–20:25]
• Song of the Summer Debate & Reflections on TikTok: [19:27–20:38]

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Final Thoughts

This minisode seamlessly blends pop culture with practical mental health wisdom. Dr. Joy and Bria emphasize the value of boundaries—both online and in caregiving—reminding listeners to be compassionate with themselves, to seek meaningful support systems, and to be intentional and diverse in their sources of inspiration and identity. Balancing transparency, authenticity, and self-care, especially as Black women in a hyper-visual world, remains a central theme.

Transcript

[Bria]

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[Podcast Announcer]

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[Mandy Woodruff Santos]

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[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

Hey y'.

[Podcast Announcer]

All.

[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

Welcome back to I have Some Thoughts, our weekly minisode series here at Therapy for Black Girls, where we are talking about all things pop culture, but of course through a mental health. And I am back with Bria this week. Hey, Bria.

[Bria]

Hi guys.

[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

So what do we have on our list today, Bria?

[Bria]

Let's start with Narsmith. So are you familiar with Narsmith the Influencer? Yeah. So for those of you who may not know she's an influencer, she is best known for her viral cooking videos where she'll make very elaborate from scratch snacks. Like for example, she'll be like, my kid wanted some Skittles, so I made some from the garden or something like that. But she recently revealed actually that her two year old daughter, Whimsy, was diagnosed with cancer last year. Now, she released a statement via Instagram and announced that it was not an easy decision whether she wanted to share the news publicly, but also sent thoughts to every family and parent. That's walking through a heavy moment right now. And I think there's like a broader conversation of like, as a parent, I feel like you want to protect your child from everything and some things you may not have even imagined would happen to your child. But parents often feel like they need to stay strong for their children in these hard times where their child is going through something. So how can caregivers really balance being emotionally present for like a sick child or a child that's dealing with a tough situation while Also tending to their own mental health.

[Mandy Woodruff Santos]

Yeah.

[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

This is such a tough situation. Right. And a tough line to walk. First of all, sending their family so much love. I'm sure that this has not been an easy process. And you, you know, we've had so many conversations here around, like the things that people struggle with personally and privately, but then they have a public platform and then there's this pressure to maybe share. Right. I'm sure that that was difficult as she shared. And I think that this is really hard as a parent. The idea that you want to kind of show your kids that you're human and that you also have fears and anxieties, but also not wanting to adultify them and bring them into an adult's experience. So it is a really tough line. So I think it is okay to have age appropriate conversations with your kids about the things that you're afraid and like, oh, mommy has things that make her worry too, to outline or to underscore, like the things that kids worry about also. But it is also really important to have an adult support system that you can talk to about these things. Right. So your partner, your friends, a therapist, religious leader, whoever is in your circle of support, I think is really important because it can't be that you are sharing too much with your kids. Right. Because then that does maybe increase their anxiety. So I think sharing some things, it's okay. But also making sure that you have adults that you can process these things with as well.

[Bria]

No, for sure. I really like the point about making sure that you have that support system of people. Like, you kind of have to level what it is that you're saying to each of the people that you're communicating with within that process? But, like, what are some of the practices or mindsets that parents can use to stay grounded as they're navigating these situations? Especially when it's prolonged uncertainty. Like, obviously we're praying for, like, so much healing for Narsmith's baby, but it's an uncertain period of we don't know how long it will last or that kind of thing too.

[Podcast Announcer]

Yeah.

[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

And I think that this is the reality for families struggling with a chronic illness situation like this. And so I'm sure there are support groups that exist both in person and virtually that would be helpful. So finding other parents who have struggled in similar ways and even asking your physician and your care team for community resources to get connected to other people. Because so much of this is about the isolation and feeling like, oh my gosh, I don't know what to do. And so talking to other families, other parents and caregivers who have walked a similar path can be really, really helpful. I already mentioned therapy. I think that that is something that is going to be really, really important for anybody who is in a situation like this because there are so many what ifs, so many ideas and, like, fantasies about the life that you thought that you would be living. And now that is not the case. Right. And so how do you process the grief, like we've talked about, with the reality not matching up with the ide, what you thought your life would be? And so I think therapy is something that can also be really helpful and be really grounding for people and also as much as possible, and not in a frivolous way at all, but, like, making sure that there are other things that you can lean on.

[Podcast Announcer]

Right.

[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

So still looking for moments of joy, still looking for moments of levity, even when there are situations that are really difficult also really helps to keep you grounded in a situation like this.

[Bria]

Yeah, no, I love that. And I think even with her saying in her statement that it was, like, a hard decision to even share it with the Internet, like, taking a break from the Internet is also fine too. Like, obviously, it's a huge thing to be dealing with, so sending all the love and care to her way as well. So for our next topic, we have Kennedy Ryan. This was actually a suggestion from Patreon member AJ so if you want to suggest any pop culture topics that we discuss on the show, feel free to comment them in the Patreon as well. But for this story, Kennedy Ryan recently went on a podcast and shared that the name Kennedy Ryan is actually a pseudonym. Now, she said when she first got her book deal, the HR department at her day job said that she needed to use a pseudonym so that none of her work was associated with them. This is very common practice within the world of being an author, especially when you're writing romance novels. Kennedy said that she always wanted a daughter, but she never got one. And she said that she knew that she would name this daughter Kennedy Ryan, so she used that for her pseudonym name. But since the interview, Kennedy has been getting a lot of backlash on the Internet for what is a very normal practice in the industry. A lot of the criticism is around. A lot of people feel duped that this is not her real name, and they feel like they kind of knew this version of Kennedy Ryan and it's not her. And they almost feel this level of betrayal. So in this age of social media, I'm interested To hear your thoughts. Why do audiences feel like they need to know every detail about someone they admire? And why do they almost feel betrayed when they realize they don't know everything?

[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

I'm not always super familiar with the list of things that we talk about here, and I had heard inklings of this story, but I didn't. First of all, I didn't know Kennedy Ryan wasn't her actual name, so I didn't either.

[Bria]

This was my first time hearing this.

[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

But it really makes me think about the podcast episode we had recently with Dr. Maya Hoskin around parasocial relationships. And I really feel like the Internet has brought us some amazing things, but it has also really rotted our brains, I think, in lots of ways that people don't even realize. And I think especially for people who didn't necessarily have the pre Internet life and an after Internet life, like, people who have really grown up with, like, the Internet being their primary means of communication really don't have a balance of, oh, this is how things were done when, like, we weren't all connected to millions of people across the world. I think the Internet just really flattens our humanity, right? Like, we exist almost in these little boxes where we are almost avatars to one one another as opposed to actual living, breathing humans. And so I think it really important to take a step back and think about, would I say this thing or do this thing that I'm doing online if this person were actually in front of my face? And I think for a lot of people who act out online in this way, they would not necessarily act this way in person. And so I think we really need to take a step back and realize that these are actual humans that we are dealing with and to the point of feeling betrayed by this not being her name. I'm really curious as to what has changed since, like, the name change, right? Like, you still enjoy the stories. You know, you still loved her work. Like, why is her name being different? Something that is, like, such a heel to die on? It is a very odd thing to me. And I think whenever you see a reaction that feels outsized to what the actual event is, it is usually something deeper. And so I didn't encourage people to, like, dig deeper into why are you reacting so strongly to someone? Like you said, a completely normal practice when people write romance. Like, why are you reacting so strongly to this and what is it really about?

[Bria]

Yeah, I was thinking more on this last night because I was really just so confused as to, like, what all of the hoopla was about. And I think it's so interesting because it's like, there's certain fandoms that you could tell them anything about a person. It doesn't matter if it's, like, good or bad. And they're still standing, like, 10 toes for this person, the celebrity, like this author, whoever it is. And then there's just like, this other layer of it where it's one little thing and everyone's turned on them. It's really, like, such an interesting dichotomy, honestly.

[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

But, you know, I also want to add, Bria, I think we cannot exclude or look over the fact that Kennedy is a black woman. Right. And so I do think that there is this sense of entitlement, of course, to black women's privacy. And, like, if you exist online, then I have to know everything about you. And because I'm a supporter, I am entitled to these things. And so I am sure that that heightened the sit with Kennedy as well.

[Mandy Woodruff Santos]

Yeah.

[Bria]

And this is something that I feel like a lot of, whether it's authors, celebrities, musicians go through, but even everyday people, like, people having so much access to each other's lives via social media, Instagram stories, you really just press a button and any moment of your life is on the Internet. So how can everyday people set healthier boundaries around what they share online without feeling like they're being inauthentic?

[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

I would also encourage us to, like, investigate this idea of authenticity on the Internet, because who does that really serve? Right. Like, I think, you know, of course, in, like, the marketing and sales world, people talk about, like, people buy from people they know, like, and trust. Right. And so some of it, I think, comes from that. But if you aren't actually, like, selling anything and you're just a person existing on the Internet, what are you really leaning into when you lean into this idea of authenticity? Right. Because really, it does open you up in some ways to this. Not again, that of this behavior is okay. But why are you wanting to be so authentic online with a bunch of strangers as opposed to cultivating smaller groups of people that, you know, whether it's virtually or in person, places where you actually trust these people and kind of get to know them as opposed to just sharing random thoughts online? Because authenticity, while it is good for virality, is often really bad for your mental health when we're talking about online spaces. And so really thinking about, why do I want to even be so authentic and what am I getting out of this situation?

[Bria]

I totally agree. Yeah. And I feel like not all the roads lead back to Covid, but I feel like it really does feel like a lot of it changed with the 2020 pandemic, but how people are like engaging on social media. I feel like it just went up a few notches after that too.

[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

I agree. I agree with you.

[Bria]

Love that.

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[Bria]

and for our last story, we have R and B singer India Irie. She took the threads to share her opinion on Yung Miami's song Spin that now. Have you heard this song?

[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

I have.

[Bria]

Okay, cool. Yeah, a lot of people are calling it Song of the Summer. It reached number 25 on the Billboard Hot 100 list this past week. A user on threads a couple of days ago called for a boycott of the song, saying it's degrading to the culture. If you haven't heard the song, it references scamming, boosting, stealing things, reselling them, that kind of thing. This user on threads called for a boycott of the song, saying that it's degrading to the culture. And India Iri responded to that thread saying basically that she agreed and that everything that you listen to or eat will influence you. And that quote, not everyone wants to be free. Now this has led to a lot of discussion online because many just feel like it's a fun summer song like to enjoy. It's something that's catchy, that people are just really liking. But many are considering if songs like this are actually able to influence our thoughts, beliefs and behaviors. So what does psychology tell us about how repeated messages and music and media, how can those shape our attitudes, our relationships and the way we express ourselves to our.

[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

Yeah, so I mean, I don't think any of this is necessarily a bad idea. Right? Like we do know that the messages we get through media, tv, online spaces, that does influence us to a certain extent. Right. And so if we're using the analogy of everything that you eat also impacts your health and those kinds of things, we know that all things in moderation are okay right now. Do you want to have a diet that consists of completely of Doritos? Probably not, but it is okay to have some Doritos in every now and then Right. And so the same with our media diet. Right. I think it is okay for some songs to just be frivolous, fun beats to groove to and, like, have fun to. And then other things that actually, like, we hold up as, like, a symbol of representation for us and those kinds of things, but it is okay to kind of have a variety of things. And I think these kinds of conversations often come back to the lack of visibility that black artists have. Right. Like, would there be so much concern about Spin that if we had a lot of other representation, but because it only feels like the industry will kind of hold up one black girl at a time, then there is outsized attention on songs like this. Right. And so I think it's totally fine to have fun songs, but also make sure that you are getting your ideas about who you are and what black people are in the world from more places than just music videos.

[Bria]

No, definitely. And so how can people just remind themselves to be intentional about the media that they're consuming without particularly believing that it's going to influence or determine who they become in the long run?

[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

Yeah, I do think it could influence you in some ways. Right. And again, that goes back to my point of, like, if you're only listening to messaging like this, then it may not be the best for you. But if you have a well rounded, so to speak, media diet of things that are a little more silly and kind of just fun to dance to versus, okay. This is the kind of music I listen to when I'm wanting to feel grounded or when I'm wanting to feel powerful. Right. Like, we know that we listen to different things for different kinds of reasons. And so I think it really is about being intentional, about cultivating your playlist and, like, going to different songs for different reasons. And also, again, making sure that you are grounded in community, in real life. Right. So if your only representation and your only connection to black women is through music, then I think that there is also something going on.

[Podcast Announcer]

Right.

[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

Like, that you need to dig deeper into what does it look like to kind of have mentors and role models of people in your community, teachers in your school, faith leaders. Right. Like, it needs to move beyond just the music and also into what's happening in your actual real life.

[Bria]

I totally agree. One last question for you. This is kind of a curveball, but do you have a vote for song of the summer?

[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

Ooh, I don't feel like I'm hearing any other songs besides Spin that now. I also don't listen to a bunch of music. Right. And so I'm much more like a podcast kind of person. So I'm not listening to a lot of music. So that is like the song that I probably hear the most. But what songs are even out there, like in the same range in your mind?

[Bria]

I feel like the only other song and I'm kind of like you. I'll only listen to like once I hear a song on TikTok, I'll like listen to it, but it's either Don Tolliver, E85 or Octane. I can't remember which one it is. It's another song that's just everywhere on TikTok too. And I feel like it's my vote would be one of those. But I feel like Spina is everywhere right now on K12.

[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

Yes, for sure. I also think it's so funny that like so much about it gets impacted by like what we hear on TikTok now, which of course is like a thing. Right? So I think that that could be an interesting conversation for another day.

[Bria]

No, for sure. Well, that wraps up our topics for the week.

[Podcast Announcer]

Perfect.

[Host (Therapy for Black Girls)]

Thank you for those topics, Bria. Always fun to chat with you. And as Bria mentioned, if there are things that you would like to share with us, you can always send us suggestions at therapy for black girls.com mailbox and you can also join our Patreon to submit your topics as well. Until next time, take good care of yourself.

[Podcast Announcer]

Living with a rare autoimmune condition brings uncertainty, but it can also create community. In season six of Untold Life, with a severe autoimmune condition, they go beyond MG and cidp as host Martine Hackett welcomes stories from other conditions like myositis and IgAN into the conversation. Untold Stories is produced by Ruby Studio in partnership with Argenics. Listen to Untold Stories Life with a severe autoimmune condition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Mandy Woodruff Santos]

This is Mandy Woodruff Santos from Brown Ambition. When you think about discovering small brands, what store pops into your mind? Well, it should be Walmart. Seriously, Walmart has thousands of small brands and they're all in one place. Just go online or in store, discover and shop. It could not be easier. Every one of these brands has a real story and real people behind it. They're true American success stories and you can find them all at Walmart. Discover thousands of small [e-mail] today.

[Bria]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.