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Lyle
Hi, what's your name?
May
My name is Colette.
Lyle
Colette. Colette. You texted me and you said I'm a 31 year old woman who just got banned on Roblox.
May
Sure did. Sure did.
Lyle
So. So tell me about that. How did you get banned on Roblox?
May
I guess I've just been playing a lot because I have a little brother. He's like you know, 14. We've been playing for years or whatever. But also it keeps you out of trouble. Roblox does. But yeah, I just moved to Atlanta and from Texas and I just Been kind of in my head a lot, and so I've been, like, just playing by myself. But I got this new game on there. It was this, like. It was supposed to be so chill. It was like a. Like a treehouse tycoon. And basically all you got to do is, you know, say, like, get all these honeybees. You collect them. You, you know, you build your tree house. But then also everybody comes in and, like, murders you and stuff. And you're like. I'm like, I don't understand why there's murder in this game. There's, like, chill jazz music. There's bird sounds. I really don't understand what this game is and why everyone was treating it like a GTA server. But there was these children, and they rolled up that I couldn't collect my honey. They parked their little car. They kept on murdering me over and over again. And it just really sent me because, like, I was really excited to play this little game. And I just called them bratty virgins. And then, well, I tried to report them because they were being very mean to me on the. On the chat. I did not appreciate it. And they don't know what I'm going through. They don't know who they're talking to. But, yeah, I did tell them that I'm sorry, their parents are divorced. And I do regret that because their parents are probably most definitely divorced.
Lyle
Why. Okay, why do you assume that their parents are divorced?
May
I mean, just because of, you know, the ratios. You know, you can look at any, like, you know, census.
Lyle
Okay. Okay. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. There's a. There's a 50 chance that. That they're. Right. How old. How old do you think these kids? These were like squeakers. These were like 13 year olds.
Josh
They're probably.
May
They're probably. Yeah, they're probably like the same as my little brother. Probably like 14 or something.
Lyle
I mean, they. They probably should. They probably should be versions.
May
I mean. No, they should. I shouldn't. I regret that. I guess it's just like, you know, like, what's your. I guess, I mean, I'm not really upset that they're. That they're virgins. That's not really. It was. It was just that, like, obviously you haven't been through anything. You're just a stupid virgin, which is really mean to a lot of adult virgins. I get it. I understand. I was in the. Recognizing that I'm going crazy right now.
Lyle
They're life virgin. They're life virgins. They're life.
May
They're life virgins yes, exactly.
Lyle
You know? Yeah, yeah. I mean, getting into heated arguments with 14 year olds on Roblox is probably a little crazy. It's, it, I, I, I, you would feel irresponsible for me to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a little crazy. It's a little crazy. It's undeniably a little crazy. But I'm, but let's talk about.
May
I told my little brother what happened and all he texted me was, wow. And I was like, okay, now I know that I'm like, I'm like losing it a little bit, you know?
Lyle
Okay. Okay. Why do you, why do you think you're, why do you think you're losing it?
May
Well, okay. I just moved here. I was in Austin, Texas, doing like a weird family thing for a while. I had been, I've moved all around the, the country, but yeah, I was only in Texas for a couple years because, like, my grandma and my mom wanted to, like, hang out with me a little bit. I haven't really lived around them for like, over a decade and that was really, really stressful. I have, like, very conservative grandparents. I mean, just like everybody else. It's a little bit different though, when, like, you're mixed and like, your white family is like, really, really racist in like every possible way pretty much. Like, yeah, the only person I kind of like that I'm related to is my mom. But anyway, that's a really, really long story. You know, I'm really okay, like, not talking about that, but. But yeah, it was a lot. My grandma, like, started hospice while I was there, and they were just like, incredibly hard to please people. You kind of have to perform at all times. And then also I, like, they kicked me out because I asked them to stop talking about Trump with me. And then so I had to, like, live with, like, this really crazy girl. And she was a lot. And then I was also dating, like, you know, a comedian who was like a severe alcoholic. It was just like a lot of, you know, stuff that didn't have to do with me, which I'm usually pretty good at. But I'm realizing that this is like the first time I've been wanting to get to Atlanta for a really long time because I feel like all my hopes and dreams and like, a lot of, like, family that I would like to get to know lives here. And I just want to make movies and I want to make tv and like, I've been working in production a long time and, like, I just want to, like, I've just been wanting to come Here and feel comfortable in my own skin and just have a lovely time. But now that I'm here, it's like the self like I'm like actually having to like be the person that I was imagining being. And then I'm also realizing, you know, that that that's the anxiety is like, that part is like, oh, I'm like, oh, this is like you. You think about something for too long and then like you're like, oh, this is. It's still me. I'm not like a different person.
Lyle
Yeah.
May
And it's just like still have to do all of those things, like be a different person. And now I'm just like cursing kids out on Roblox. I mean, that's crazy. I'm like, I could be outside right now. It's like gorgeous out. I could be like meeting people. But I have a really. I'm like so good at meeting people that are like terrible for me. So like, I'm really terrified about like making new connections. That's also, I think really what it is is that I don't trust myself to like actually surround myself with people that are like, good for me. I think that's really what it is too also. I just like don't know where to start at this point.
Lyle
You said so many things just now that piqued my interest. Okay, I want to. I'm trying to hold on to all of them. Okay, wait, One you said was first of all, okay, I'm sorry if I got. I'm trying to get your timeline correct. Yes, you. Cuz you said something because you threw a bunch of stuff out about like, okay, your family kicked, you know, bad relationship with the family and the alcoholic comedian and all this is that. This is all before you moved to Atlanta.
May
Yeah, this was all before I moved to Atlanta. This was like the first place I've ever lived with. Like, that's just for me.
Lyle
And then where.
May
I've always done things for family and other people and like, this is the first time I've ever done something that's like just me.
Lyle
And then. When did you move to Atlanta?
May
Like a month ago.
Lyle
And you're living with your little brother?
May
No, I'm not living with my little brother. My little brother lives pretty close. He lives in Jacksonville, Florida.
Lyle
Okay, but do you live with. Are you living with family or you live by yourself?
May
No, I live completely by myself and I don't have like close family like the family I have here. Oh, shit, my cat. Hi. Are you ready to come in? Jesus, you've been Gone for so long. But, yeah, she. It's just me, my cat, and my snake that I'm hiding from the leasing office. But, yeah, the family I have here, they're like. I haven't seen them since I was, like, you know, 10 or something, you know?
Lyle
And you said that you mainly came down there to. Well, you said you came down there for a lot of reasons, but you. One of the reasons you said you came down there was because you wanted to get closer to them, right?
May
Yeah, I've got, like, my. I've got, like, a lot of my. My dad's side of the family in Savannah. So, yeah, I've already, like, went and saw my grandma, who's, like, great. She, like, has always, like, smoked, like, two packs of Marbs a day. And, like, she, like, drives trucks, and, like, she's really mean, but she, like, puts all of her heart and soul into, like, the food she makes. Like, she's, like, so classic. She's, like, a really nice lady.
Lyle
Cool. How old is she? She. I'm curious.
May
Oh, my God. She had my dad. Like, my whole family is just babies. My dad was, like, my. She had my dad when she was 14.
Lyle
Whoa.
May
She got real unlucky. Yeah, real unlucky. It was the guy she, like, lost her virginity to, and he's, like, a real schmuck. Like, he's, like, a bad guy, but, yeah, he's crazy. And then, yeah, my dad and my mom had me. My mom, her parent. Her mom had her when she was 19, and then they pretty much did the same thing. They were, like, 20 when they had me.
Lyle
Okay, so I was imagining when you said your grandma. I was imagining, like, kind of an old lady, but she's younger.
May
Well, I have. Yeah. Like, the one that's on hospice in Texas. That's my mom's mom. And, yeah, she's young, but she's just, like. I mean, like, her last name is, like, Dangler. She, like, comes from, like, real poor. Like. Like, her dad was, like, a huge drunk who, like, spent all of their milk money, like, on alcohol and gambling. So, like, all of her teeth fell out by the time she was, like, 30. Just crazy.
Lyle
All right, so, I mean, back to you. You. The other. The thing. Yeah, back. Back to you. You know, because I. I'm sure that we could get it. I'm sure that we could. We could write a whole textbook about your family lore.
May
No, the lore goes crazy.
Lyle
I'm sure the Lord sounds like it goes very crazy. The. Well, the thing that you said that I was like, ah, fucking amen to that. Is the thing about. Yeah, you imagine is. Is dreams realized? Well, yeah. Okay, so once you. I also feel like. And this is actually, I think part of, like not to bring it to me, but like a little part of like an existential crisis is like what you sort of, when you get a little bit older, you begin to fully understand the fact that there is no such thing as your future self, which is a little spooky. There's no such thing as, as your future self. And that's like a little scary, you know, because I think we put a lot of hopes and dreams and reliefs and plans and whatnot in this bucket of someday and in the future self. And. But there's just. It just never comes. There's no such thing as the future self. So. Yeah, it's still you.
May
And I think that like the last two years have just been so stressful that I like have really just been like easing myself. Like self soothing with like a future self in mind. Like, that's been like a self soothing, like, technique that I'm realizing and it's making itself really apparent.
Lyle
Wait a minute. Can I actually completely undermine everything I just said? Yeah, because I know, I'm thinking about it. I'm like, I actually, there's kind of no such thing as the future self, but there also kind of is such a thing as a future self, you know, because as human beings, we can anticipate the future.
May
You can manifest things and you can eventually, like, you can do things, you can, you can visualize things and make them into fruition. Not even just like, you know, you can, you can, you can emulate something until it becomes you.
Lyle
Yeah, well, I actually, actually kind of. I, I just, I half disagree with what I said. I think that there, I mean, obviously there is no future self. It's always just gonna be you. And you have to understand that. But there is something about. You can plan for the future to the best and, you know, I mean, you could do that financially and you can do that health wise and you can do that. But a lot of the times, yeah, I mean, the future self is just kind of like a vehicle for procrastination. But anyway. Okay, hold on. I want to get okay past your family law.
May
I know. We're all getting there.
Lyle
We're getting philosophical bullshit.
May
I know.
Lyle
Why are you. No, it's okay. I'm. I'm steering us in those directions and I take responsibility for that. Is, why are, why are you sitting at home alone in your house yelling at Teenagers on. On Roblox.
May
Yeah. I guess I'm just, like, realizing. I just, like. I don't really, like, trust myself the way that I should. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Lyle
Well, I mean, let's talk about this. Right Is you. You said all these, like, okay, you want to make movies and. Oh, okay, let's. Let me ask you this. Yeah. You said that moving to Atlanta was something that you did for yourself. It's, like, one of the only things you did for yourself. Why did you do it?
May
Yeah, I just think that. I think that. I'm sorry. My cat is driving me nuts. She's like, yelling in, like, the middle of our apartment building. I think that what it is is that I've never. I've always wanted to make movies. And it was something that, like, you know, I felt, like, really guilty about for a long time for, like, familial reasons or that it wasn't, like, possible. Like, nobody in my family's ever really believed in me about that. But until, like, my dad, like, one random time was like, he saw what I worked on, a Gatorade commercial. And he's like, I saw your car in this Gatorade commercial. And I'm like, yeah, like, I mean, I can do it. Like, there's, like, no reason, like, I can't. And I guess I've just never, like, invested in, like, myself, in things that I wanted to do. I guess I've always, like, chose, like, the safe option. I, like, decided to do, like, clinical massage therapy because I was like, okay, well, I can just do that while I'm, like, figuring it out. And I've always just done, like, all these. I'm, like, a side quest person, and I've, like, had a really hard time, like, with the big what are you gonna be when you grow up?
Josh
Question.
Lyle
Right.
May
But I've always done, like, a bunch of side quests, and I still kind of. I mean, I still do want to do that, but I guess that this place just feels like there's a lot of opportunities for me to do things what I want to do. Like, and when it comes to, like, film, like, I just love being on a set in any capacity. It really doesn't matter.
Lyle
I said you. You said you work. Do you currently work in production or you have worked in production.
May
I was doing a lot of it in Florida, and I was doing a lot of, like, live concert stuff for a long time, which was really cool. And then, yeah, I was working my way into the commercials. But Austin, Texas was really, really weird for that. Like, the community there is like really cutthroat and really clicky and intense.
Lyle
So.
May
I didn't get to do that as much. So.
Lyle
Did you pick Atlanta? Because it has. Sorry to keep interrupting you, but I'm just trying to get down to like.
May
Yeah.
Lyle
Why?
May
Yeah, you're trying to like, figure it out.
Lyle
Did you, did you get, did you pick Atlanta? Because there's, because of all the. I mean, I. Yeah, there's a lot.
May
Of film here especially.
Lyle
Yeah. So when you say.
May
And a lot of like, TV stuff.
Lyle
When you say you want to like, make film, do you mean you want.
May
If I could be. If I could be like, if I could be like a, like a, like a Foley artist like the rest of my life, I'd be very happy with that. If I could get in a writer's room, I'd be really, really happy with that.
Lyle
Okay.
May
There's like so many different avenues of it that I'm like, really could be very happy doing. And that's why I'm like, so broad with it. It's like, it's not, not even like a, like. Oh, I don't know if I could believe in myself that I could like, direct. I think I could like, I really do think that I like. But I, I, there's so many different facets of like, filming something that I genuinely enjoy is what I mean.
Lyle
So. Okay, that's good to know. So you've been in Atlanta for a month and have you, have you gone to any like. Have you, have you gone to any like. You gotta see. That's, that's, that's the thing is there's a lot of. And by the way, I'm the king of short. I, I am the king of short term dopamine traps. Okay? I am, I am a complete hypocrite. I am the king of short term dopamine loops. So I, I say this with, with.
May
You know, the compassion and love in your heart.
Lyle
Yes, the. If I'm sure that yelling at a, at a little kid on Roblox probably feels amazing. It's probably a great rush of adrenaline to, to like, have something that like, to care about, like, to like, be giving like, you know, because we're all just, we're all just looking for reasons to get out of our fucking head and into something. And sometimes that desire is what leads us to spend any amount of time or effort or fucks to give about getting a little kid banned from Roblox. That's why you're doing that is because you're in. I was, I was driving down the road yesterday and somebody like started slowing. The guy, the car in front of me was slowing down and then they started like backing up or something like just in the middle of the road. And I yelled and I yelled, are you a. And then I. And then I. And then I went. I turned around and then I. And then I passed the car and then I was like, oh my God, that felt so good. My entire body and brain and essence was fully in that moment of calling that person a fucking more. It feels good. That's why we do it.
May
Well, yeah, I don't think I'll ever get. I think that road rage contained to your car will always be a healthy outlet and you can't change my mind on that.
Lyle
You know what? Maybe, maybe, maybe you're right. Maybe it, maybe it is. I felt good. I felt it was cathartic. I wouldn't. And you know what? And you're right, you're right. As long as I think it would be. I wouldn't want to like, would never, you know, go to the person to their fate like, you know, as. You're right. As long as it's contained in your own car. Sure. Anyway. Yeah, why don't. Anyway.
May
Just terrifying.
Lyle
Yeah, I mean, anyway, all this really comes down to is like, I mean, dude, here. If I could give like, if I could give some suggestions here. Yeah, I don't always feel inclined to give suggestions or feel like I know what I'm talking about here, but because it's like, you know, you used to.
May
Live here and I remember an episode where you were talking about this shit.
Lyle
Yeah, yeah, I used to live in. I used to live in Atlanta a couple times and you know, just this particular. And you know, being doing film production shit. And so this particular avenue, I feel. Why don't you go on like meetup or Facebook or Instagram or whatever and just like go to fucking like networking events or even. Or even. Right. Why don't you go on like IMDb or LinkedIn or Twitter or whatever the fuck and like email 10 different Foley artists and be like, hey, you know, can I ask you for advice on getting into the industry? Not like, hey, can I, you know, have a job? But like, hey, you know. Yeah, yeah, so you just, just gotta network. And by the way, people think that networking is like. People. The word networking is gross to a lot of people. But it's, it's the only way you get anywhere. But I also, it's not Even I don't even think it's gross. It's like, it's connecting, you know, I mean, that's what you should.
May
People to people.
Lyle
It's people to. That's what you should be doing is you should be out in your industry connecting with other people and not, you know, at home alone yelling at teenagers. It's good. It's not a gross thing to. To want to network.
May
Yeah, it is. Okay. Okay. Thank you. That's actually really good advice. I'm gonna definitely do that.
Lyle
So. Yeah, I mean, that's what I would do is find if you have a. I mean, it's also. It's so great that you have a specific. Because a lot of people are like, oh, I want to make something, but I don't know what it is, and whatever the fuck. But to have, like, a specific vision and be like, I want to be a Foley artist. I mean, goddamn, go, you know, go talk to the people who are literally doing what you want to do and. And they're accessible.
May
I was about to get, like, an audio engine engineering degree, and I don't know if I should do that. I think you think that's like. Is audio engineering kind of like a useless degree?
Lyle
Let you know what. You know what? Instead of asking me, because I have no idea. Go, go. Yeah, seriously. Seriously write.
May
Yeah.
Lyle
A billion fucking questions down and then go to, like, one of these networking events that I'm sure happen all over ATL and ask these people that. Ask that question to these people. You know, this. We live in. We live in. There's a lot of, like, doomerism around the connectedness of our society nowadays. And I could get at philosophical, whatever, but, like, I don't know this. Like, the. The tools exist for you to find people who are doing exactly what you want to do and reach out to them. And by all there's. I. I see no reason why if you reached out to 10 of them, at least one of them wouldn't be. Wouldn't love to, you know, talk to you. Because that's why. Because I think. I think people. People want to do that. People want to send the elevator back down when they, you know, get further in their careers. It makes them feel good. So, you know, do that again instead of going insane alone in your house and yelling at teenagers.
May
I will, I will. Yeah. I think I'm. I'm finally at the point in my life where I'm, like, more comfortable being alone. But. Yeah, I think that the only spiraling thing that I'm feeling is like, what I'm supposed to be doing, but being alone is, like, sick. Which it did not used to be the case.
Lyle
Okay, good, good. A lot of. For a lot of people, being alone is hell.
May
Yeah. So as long as I don't spend too long on Robux, I think, yeah, it's a good thing.
Lyle
Yeah.
May
But, yeah, it's been, honestly, really terrifying too, because I feel like every time I have stepped out in Atlanta, it's only, like, romance trying to find me, and that's really frustrating.
Lyle
Wait, what do you mean? What do you mean it's only romance trying to find you?
May
It's. I'm.
Josh
I'm.
May
I'm consistently having people trying to date me in a capacity, and I can't find any friends.
Lyle
Why do I feel. I'm. I'm. Hold on. I'm invested in this. Give me one second. I'm. I. I feel. I genuinely. Because I feel like there's got to be like, a, like, women filmmakers meetup thing in Atlanta that you can go to friends. I really just got that. There's no way. That doesn't exist.
May
It has to, right?
Lyle
It has to.
May
It can't just be me.
Lyle
Look, look here. What is this? Look. What is this? Film Hub Atlanta. I literally just Googled this. There's a. The film fatals. An international collective of. Yeah, there's all. There's all kinds of this shit. I'm. I. Yeah, there's all kinds of this shit. Look, I'm coming from Atlanta. Hold on, bro. Look at this. Look. I mean, this is a past event, but this is a Women in Film in Atlanta event. Saturday, April 26th. It's passed. But I just said these things exist. You know?
May
They do. You're right.
Lyle
You can join. Look, this is the whole thing. You can join. Look at this. Wifta.org volunteer. Look at this. You should be on this website. Literally, go right now, go to wi. FTA. FTA.org/get-involved. And it says volunteer.
May
Get what?
Lyle
Get involved.
May
Oh, get involved.
Lyle
Send them an email. Just, you know, just. I just. This is. I'm getting specific about it, but it's like I just. Just do anything to jog your brain into realizing that there's. There's. There's other options for you besides again, besides yelling at teenagers on the Internet.
May
Thank you. Thanks, Lyle. Hey, did you ever watch Perfect Days?
Lyle
No, I haven't. I thank you, by the way, because this. I feel like I'll have multiple streams in a row where I'm like. I think I'm pretty Useless. But I felt good about this call, so thanks for letting me yell at you, Colette.
May
Thanks for yelling at me, Lyle. It's been a pleasure. This is my first time ever, really calling.
Lyle
Okay.
May
I'm very tickled that you chose me.
Lyle
So is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
May
Sometimes I claim to know a guy, but I can't tell you what his hands look like. All right, Lyle.
Lyle
All right, Colette. You have a good one. Bye. Bye.
May
Bye.
Lyle
I don't know what did that. She's. Sometimes I claim to know a guy, but I don't know what his hands look like. So is it like a set? A sex joke? What is that? Anyway. Anyway, man, Vyvanse is awesome. I feel like a real person. That's what it is. That's what it is. I've had a lot of street. I mean, maybe that's not what it is, but I. My. My energy as a human being, I think to do this podcast is finite. And there's a lot of times where it's like 9pm and I'll ch. And I. You know, I gotta record, and I'll chug a Mountain Dew, and then I'll. And then I. And then someone's talking to me, and I'm zoning out, and I'm like, oh, of course I'm. That's happening. Why would that not be happening right now? I'm always trying to solve for X for, like, how to feel good and present. Yeah, I don't know. I'm rambling, but, yeah. Good luck, Colette. Try to do stuff. Hey, folks. This episode is sponsored by ChatGPT Plus. ChatGPT plus is free for college students now through May. That means you have no limits on how many ways you can prompt ChatGPT to help you through the worst part of the school year. There's many ways you can do this, like uploading your class notes and having ChatGPT quiz you on them, or asking ChatGPT to take a complicated concept and try to explain it to you in simpler terms to help you understand. You can even use it to help design a diet and exercise plan that optimizes your energy for studying. You can use the voice feature to practice interviewing for jobs post graduation. You can use it to practice a new language for a summer trip abroad. It can help you organize your hectic schedule so you can block out time to study certain subjects and make sure you're getting things done. There are endless ways that ChatGPT plus can help you on your academic journey. ChatGPT Free for College students through may restrictions apply.
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Lyle
Hello? Hello? Hello. What's up, man?
Josh
Hi. What's happening?
Lyle
Not much. Where are you calling? Are you a Brit? Are you a Brit?
Josh
No, I'm an Aussie.
Lyle
Ah, there we go. What part of Australia are you in?
Josh
Sydney.
Lyle
Sydney. Kick ass, man. I had a great time in Sydney when I went there. Do you, do you like it or are you like. It's just where I live.
Josh
Oh, it's just where you live. You know, Like, I know people travel here from all over the world and people get excited to see it, but for me it's just like. It's nice though. It is a beautiful city. We've got some, you know, good local beaches and there's a lot of, like, restaurants and, you know, nice places to eat out. But, you know, you always feel like we. Wherever you live, you always feel like you just live in a bubble, you know, because you go to your job and you do your thing and it's kind of like you get caught up in the routine sometimes.
Lyle
Yeah. Are you, Are you in a bubble? That's a stupid question, but it remains.
Josh
It feels like that five days of the week and then the other two days of the week. Sometimes you try break free of that bubble, do something, you know, out of the ordinary. But sometimes you just end up getting stuck in the bubble still. And then you just live this life in a bubble because it feels like, I don't know, sometimes it's just finances that feel like it's holding you back from breaking free of that bubble.
Lyle
You said that on the weekends you try to break out of the bubble. What do you do on the weekends to try to break out of the bubble?
Josh
You know, I, I don't so much. I haven't been doing it as much lately. But I did like, you know, I do like going out to the beach or going on a hike or just, you know, getting outdoors and getting out in nature. But I've, you know, I had a bit of a work related incident this year and it's impacted my ability to do a lot of things. So I guess I've just kind of been stuck in the bubble.
Lyle
Is that, is that something you want to talk about?
Josh
Yeah, I guess I could talk about it. So earlier on this year, I. So for work, I work in construction. I operate a piece of mobile plant. The plan I'm referring to, it's a vacuum truck and I dig holes with it. So it's It's a big truck and it's got a huge tank on the back and you have a hose that comes off of the truck and you, it's a vacuum hose and you run out a high pressure water hose as well. And you dig holes using the high pressure water and the vacuum from the truck to expose underground services such as electrical, gas and water. And I was digging holes earlier this year and I dug, you know, I dug this hole and I kind of, you know, after I was finished digging the hole, the holes were supposed to be covered by the, you know, one of these workers on the job site and he's, you know, covered the hole poorly and I've misstepped and I've fallen in the hole. I fell in the hole. It was only about a meter deep, but you know, I landed directly on top of the water main that was in the ground and it sent a shock up my spine and I've slipped the disc and it's caused some, you know, problems and the, some sciatica. So it's affected my right leg completely. It's impacted my ability to exercise, which has been, you know, quite difficult for me because exercise has always been a bit of an outlet for me.
Lyle
So.
Josh
Yeah, and that's it, man. It's. It's been a bit of a head, if I'm being honest.
Lyle
Well, I'm sorry to hear that, man. When did this all happen?
Josh
Back at start of February.
Lyle
Did like, did you get any kind of like a workman's comp?
Josh
Yeah. So was complicated because when it first happened my, the company that I work for thought it was just going to be a, you know, maybe a one or two day thing. So they didn't want to file any claims or do anything through the workers compensation. And you know, a couple of days I, you know, even on the day of the incident it wasn't, didn't feel like a big deal at the time. And then the next morning I woke up and I couldn't even. I struggled to get out of bed. So I went and I called my boss and I told him, I said I gotta, you know, I went to the doctors on the day and he actually my boss come and pick me up from the job site because we, the company I work for, we contract to, you know, these job sites, we hire out our equipment to other job sites. So they will call up and say, you know, we need a vacuum truck for eight hours today. And they send out me, the operator, I drive the truck to the job site and I work for the client for eight hours. So my boss has come after the incident, after he was made aware of it, picked me up from the job site, taken me to his doctor, walked me into the doctor's office and tried to get me sign off as, you know, all clear. And, you know, there were no problems. And, you know, it was a bit. I, I didn't really speak up at the time. I just let him say whatever he needed to say and the ref, the doctor refused to sign me off because they're just like, we don't know what the, you know, we don't really know until we get some scans done. I can't just sign him off and say all clear. He could have a, you know, slip disc or he might wake up tomorrow and not be able to move. And that's exactly what happened, you know, Next day I woke up, struggled to get out of bed straight away, went to my doctor without my boss there being present, told them the whole situation. They asked if I wanted to do a worker's do it through workers compensation and I said, no, that's fine, because I knew that my boss didn't feel comfortable going through workers compensation. And they said they gave me a referral to go get an mri, which I booked in and I got that within a few days. And the MRI results showed that I'd slipped a disc in my back and my doctor had said that I need to go see a neurosurgeon immediately. So then I've called my boss, I've told them that that was the situation and then they've gone ahead, booked me in to see a different doctor who then wanted to backtrack, fill out our worker's compensation claim, backtrack it to the actual day of the incident, because they knew that if after I got the results from the MRI and my doctor said I need to see a neurosurgeon, they knew it was going to be a lot of, of their pocket and this could potentially go on for a long time and it would end up costing them a lot more money. So they have then gone and, you know, set me up with their doctor. I've been doing everything that their doctor has been saying. It's gone through works, compensation. I've been going to physio twice a week, multiple doctor's appointment. The first three, four weeks I was on four different pain management medications and it felt like none of it was helping. Over time with the physio and then slowly weaning off of those medications and then slowly getting back into work, I have started to feel Better, but they still haven't signed me off yet because I'm now it's still affecting my right leg. So, you know, a couple of weeks ago, I went and I got another mri, and it's still showing that there's a problem there. And the doctor that they had set me up with is now saying on his see a neurosurgeon, which is what my doctor had said initially. So it kind of feels like, you know, that. Well, all that time that I spent with their doctor doing whatever he was saying, and ultimately now he's saying, I gotta go see a neurosurgeon. I feel like this. This is something that I kind of wanted to do months ago, back when the incident first happened. But they thought that maybe I was, you know, because it was my doctor. I was somehow, you know, they were. I don't know. They. I feel like maybe they thought I was all caught up with my doctor and they were telling me to do something, you know, I don't know if you get what I'm saying.
Lyle
They, they, they thought it was fishy that you were bringing in your doctor instead of their doctor. Is that basically what you're saying?
Josh
Yeah, well.
Lyle
Well, yeah, I guess, because they don't want. I mean, they want to be in control of the situation, I would assume.
Josh
Yes.
Lyle
So are you. Are you having issues with, like, with. With being able to see your doctor in conflict with their doctor?
Josh
I can see my doctor at any time, and that's a part of the workers compensation. I can change a do, I can change physio. I'm in control of the whole situation, essentially. But every time I've brought it up to them, if they're not happy about something, because they have not made this easy for me at all. You know, there's been times, you know, when I'm at work and they're coming up to me, they essentially think that I'm milking the whole thing or that I'm bullshitting my way through it just so I can stay on workers compensation without saying it directly. They have come up to me and said, you know, like, are you being honest with us about the whole thing? And it's like. Like I'm getting the scans, I'm seeing your doctors, I'm doing everything that you guys want me to do. And still you're not happy with it? Because they haven't signed me off.
Lyle
You said you were back to work, though, right?
Josh
Yeah, but it's reduced hours.
Lyle
Okay. And so they're so, so what are they. What are they trying to do. Are they trying to like. Are they trying to be like, hey, we're no longer gonna. Because obviously you're still working with their doctor. Are they trying to say, like, like, you can't work with our doctor on. On our dime anymore?
Josh
Well, a couple of weeks ago, my boss had come up to me while I was at work, and he was. He approached a lot differently to how they had previously because it felt very threatening. They have approached me a few times and it felt very threatening in the way that they approached me. But this time around, he was just like, you know, you. I feel like you're telling us you're getting better, which I am slowly. It is taking time and I am getting better. I have made a lot of progress since the date of the incident. And they're like. But I. We feel like you're telling us one thing and then you go into the doctor's office and you're telling them something different. And I said, how can that be? Like, I'm not. Because they're also. They've also hired some third party, some guy that works for a third party rehab rehabilitation program who also works with me to get my, you know, goals on track and things such as that. But he attends all of my doctor's appointments with me and writes down statements of things that have been said, and he shares those things directly with my employer.
Lyle
That's weird, man. That's weird. That they're, like, hounding you about.
Josh
Is weird. It's weird.
Lyle
I mean, you're like. I mean, I mean, well, it's also like, look, I mean, you're. What is it? It's your right leg mainly, right?
Josh
Yes.
Lyle
Is your right. How, how. How is your right leg doing? Is it still like. I, I mean, I assume what this was back in February. I mean, it probably takes a while to, like, fully rehabilitate, you know, I mean, they're. They're trying to, like, rush your leg.
Josh
Yeah, they are. It's. It is going to take a while because it is stemming from the slit disc and from what I know those things take a long time to recover from, but it's made my right leg essentially, like, it's a little bit sloppy. I have control over my leg. I can use that. I'm not really limping when I walk or anything, but it's. I have a bit of loss of control over my right foot and I can't, you know, do things like I can't run when I'm, you know, driving. It's kind of affecting my ability to Push on the accelerator and brake. Not completely. I can still drive, but my job does require me to drive a truck. So you know, it's kind of affected, affecting my ability to work and you know, they're still trying to rush it along and I'll just, I know what to do at this point.
Lyle
But you can't you, I mean there, Yeah, I mean if they're trying to rush it along. But like don't you have, I mean, by the way, I mean I am in the grounds of things that I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about. But I can, I can't we assume that there's some kind of law or like, I don't know, like what are your, what are your rights in this situation? You know what I mean? Like, do you have anyone who's like telling you that.
Josh
Anyone that I've told thinks that it's up and I agree it is, but the company that I work for can be kind of a toxic work place and you know, anyone.
Lyle
Like, I guess what I'm saying is like, it's like, it's like Lee, like they're trying to like, like if your boss is trying to like, you know, like strong arm you into not paying for not being on workers comp. Is that like, you know, is that, is that illegal?
Josh
I don't think, I don't think it's legal.
Lyle
So then, well, I mean, so look, if it's not legal, then don't, you can kind of, can't you kind of be like, yeah, well you can, you can say whatever you want. You can try to rush me as much as you want, but it doesn't matter because you know, you, you have to pay for, you have to pay for this, you know, so like, I mean if that's cuz if they do rush you along and they do try to you, I assume you can just sue them. But I don't know. I, I can't assume anything because I don't know anything about any of this either in America or Australia.
Marcus
Yeah.
Josh
So women.
Lyle
You need a, you need really, you need a, you need a lawyer man. You need a lawyer. You need a lawyer. You need a lawyer. Not a gecko. You need a lawyer, man.
Josh
I, I, I do, I do need a lawyer, but it wasn't really something that I'm looking to, you know, take up further because it's already a bit of a headache as is and I don't want to.
Lyle
I'm sure, I know, I'm sure. And I, I, and I, I, I, empathize with that. I get that it's like you don't want to. You just don't want to deal with it, but.
Josh
No, because it still is.
Lyle
Go ahead.
Josh
I was just gonna say it still is my job and, you know, my form of income. And following this, I'm not really. It's uncertain what's going to happen. I don't know if by the end of it, when they sign me off, they're going to be like, I like, that's it, you're done. Pack up this and go. Or that's going to be bro, my job. And at the end of the day.
Lyle
Hold on, hold on. I'm interrupt. What's your name again?
Josh
Josh.
Lyle
Marcus. Marcus. Whatever. Whatever your name is. Marcus. Okay, just tell me, have you. Have you consulted with a lawyer? Have you even spoken with a lawyer? Have you even called one on the phone?
Josh
No.
Lyle
Marcus, call a lot. Marcus, hang up the phone right now. Marcus, I'm gonna. Marcus, hang up the. Marcus, I. I swear. What time is it in Australia right now? 6:00am 6:00am okay. Marcus, what are you doing up so late or early? You have to work?
Josh
I actually don't have work till 10am But I wanted to get the fuck out of the house. I didn't want to see any of my family.
Lyle
How old are you, Marcus?
Josh
26.
Lyle
26 what? And you, Marcus, man, listen, first of all, look, I appreciate you, you know, being down to talk about all this shit. I'm. I've. I'm screaming at you that you need to call a lawyer. I. I get the fear, right? I get the fear of like, oh, you. You know, like retaliation from your boss or whatever. But like, this is like. Like this shit happens to people. And there are like, people who professionally help people who this shit happens to because, right, because you don't have anyone on your side right now. You just have your fucking. This is you and your buddies and your versus, like your. Your boss who's clearly not on your side. And you got to go fucking talk to somebody who's on your. You got to call a lawyer, man. Like, it. Like the fact that you even. Like, if you had told me you were like, yeah, I consulted with a lawyer and they told me that, you know, this, that. And the other reason why I, I shouldn't, you know, fight back and, you know, I, I'd have to retain. Like. But. But yeah, you haven't even had a conversation. Go have a conversation with a lawyer, bro. Just call one. Just call a lawyer. Just please, please call it. Please just call Call a lawyer today, man. I get. And, and, and by the way, everything that you're talking about on the, on this fucking show right now about, like, oh, I'm afraid about the, the this. I'm afraid it's gonna be a hassle. I'm afraid that, you know, they're gonna retaliate. I'm gonna lose my job. I'm afraid of this. Write down every single one of those fucking fears, okay? Then you call a lawyer and you tell them every single one of those fears. And then have somebody have, you know, have them explain to you. I mean, it's literally their job to deal with people in your situation. Go call, like, a workman's comp lawyer, man. And beyond be vulnerable. Then be honest with them about all these fears that you have about this situation. And like, get, get some help, dude.
Josh
That's good advice.
Lyle
And if you don't do it, I'm gonna come down to Australia. I'm gonna break.
Josh
I. There's a part of me that wants to do it because it's good advice, and then there's a part of me that doesn't want to do it. Just so you come down to Australia and break my other leg.
Lyle
I don't. I'm not gonna break your other leg. I'm not gonna do that, bro. Yeah, call a lawyer. I don't. Hold on, I'm gonna. I don't. What is workman. I'm on Google right now. Workman's cop lawyer, Sydney, Australia. Okay. There's a billion of them, bro. Yeah, go. There's so many of these, bro. You gotta, you gotta call one of these lawyers. There's a billion of them. Workman's comp lawyers. Law part. Yeah, dude, go. I hope you do this, man. I, I, I, I. It would make me so happy if you took my advice and called. I called a lawyer. Instead of just like, letting your boss fuck you like this. What is your family? Do you talk to your family about this?
Josh
Yeah, I do, but I feel like I don't really understand a lot of what I go through, so I just try to keep to myself a lot of the time.
Lyle
Bro, call a lawyer. Has anyone else told you talk to your friends about this?
Josh
Yeah.
Lyle
And what did they say? Do they tell you to call a lawyer?
Josh
That never said call a lawyer, but I just think it's up.
Lyle
Yeah. Well, are you gonna call a lawyer today?
Josh
I'm gonna call on today.
Lyle
Are you gonna call a lawyer today?
Josh
Because you have told me too. Yeah.
Lyle
Okay. Thank God. Good. Please, please, please. And be. And tell them everything. Tell them like, Because. Because I don't know. I can't quell your fears because I'm a gecko and I'm. I'm. I'm a gecko 10,000 miles away from you. Call a. Call a lawyer. Okay? I feel I. It'll make it. It's genuinely. If you call a lawyer. If you call a lawyer and then you DM me later and you're like, I called a lawyer and he told me all this stuff and it made me feel better, that would make me very happy. So I hope you do that. Marcus, Marcus, Marcus, Marcus, Marcus, Marcus. Well, all right, man. I'm gonna. I'm gonna end. I'm gonna end this so that you can go call a lawyer. If. Because I. Because you're probably in your head. If I've convinced you to do it, I'm gonna let you do it right now and I'm not gonna break you.
Josh
I don't think any lawyers are up at 6am no.
Lyle
You should go back to bed. Maybe nine. Let's go back to bed. Marcus, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
Josh
I didn't think about that one. Is it fine if I don't have anything to say?
Lyle
Of course it's fine. Yeah, it's fine. Of course it's fine. You don't have to have anything to say. Okay? Just go call a lawyer. I. Somebody give me a count of how many times I said that over the course of this phone call. Okay? Good luck. Good luck, Marcus.
Josh
Thanks a lot. I appreciate your time.
Lyle
All right, take care, man. Man. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. Is that like a low. Is it like a low self esteem thing? Like, what is. I like, what is it that is preventing this gentleman from calling a lawyer shitty. That's what I would do if I was in a situation like that. I mean, I mean, damn. Because he's just. Yeah, all this, all the stuff that he's talking about, you know, I. It's so funny that there's a entire. Like, this is so dumb. But it's crazy to me that there's a whole continent of other of people who have the accent. Like the law. Like if he calls a lawyer, the lawyer is gonna like be like an Australian guy and he's gonna talk, he's gonna have that accent. The boss who's him over has an accent. The. The guy, the person who gave him the. All the doctors, they have that accent that's kind of crazy to me. Hey folks. This episode is sponsored by Chat GPT Plus. ChatGPT plus is free for college students now through May. That means you have no limits on how ways you can prompt ChatGPT to help you through the worst part of the school year. There's many ways you can do this, like uploading your class notes and having ChatGPT quiz you on them. Or asking ChatGPT to take a complicated concept and try to explain it to you in simpler terms to help you understand. You can even use it to help design a diet and exercise plan that optimizes your energy for studying. You can use the voice feature to practice interviewing for jobs post graduation. You can use it to practice a new language for a summer trip abroad. It can help you organize your hectic schedule so you can block out time to study certain subjects and make sure you're getting things done. There are endless ways that ChatGPT plus can help you on your academic journey. ChatGPT plus free for college students through May.
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Marcus
Hello.
Lyle
Hey, what's up? What's your name?
Marcus
My name is maybe May.
Lyle
What's up May? How's life?
Marcus
Crazy. Just finished my finals. So. Existential crisis?
Lyle
Why? Why is finishing your finals giving you an existential crisis?
Marcus
Well, honestly, I'm just scared of the adult world. Like, it's just the main reason. Like, I just finished neuroscience, but now I don't have a job because the job applications I applied to to just no funding and I just got fired.
Lyle
Well, what were you doing before you were fired?
Marcus
So like a college student, but like, it's technically not a fire, but just got let go after they said like, oh yeah, we can't hire you anymore so we gotta let you go. And I'm like, but you didn't even hire me.
Lyle
And what this is. This is a neuros. You got a neuroscience degree?
Marcus
Yep. And, And I was looking into like maybe I want to do research. But now, like, honestly. Yeah, and also like a lot of like things happened around me. Like neuroscience research is wild. All the research I've been into is like the only normal thing I got into. Children research. Every other thing is wild.
Lyle
What? What? Tell me about, tell me about the wild things.
Marcus
So like when I, when people ask me of like, okay, so what are you studying right now? I'm like, it's kind of like awkward to like explain to them that like it's basically lobotomizing like rats.
Lyle
We all know that. We know. Look Listen, listen, listen, May, you can look, May you can be all coy on this phone call, but we know you guys are up, so. Rats. We look, we look, we get it, we get it. We, we have all, we have all collectively as a society decided that we can up an infinite amount of rats in pursuit of our own, in pursuit of the furtherance of our own, of our own species. And we're all okay with that.
Marcus
The degree, like the degree of like up rats. I just thought like oh, probably just animal test rafting degree, right? Yeah. But I didn't, I didn't sign up to like shoot up cocaine into rats.
Lyle
It's funny because I actually, I feel bad for you May, because we are, we're all like, I'm sure that my daily, I'm sure that there are so many aspects of my daily life that are the way they are because of lots of people killing lots of rats. But I'm. But I'm lucky because I don't have to. I'm not the one who has to kill the rats. And, and you're the one who has.
Marcus
Yeah. Yeah. So like, like one good, like I think like one good thing like that probably like I was like, yeah, I didn't like it was my calling to end up here is like, sure, I don't like, like animals. Like I, I find animals cute. It's just like I don't. Every single time when someone's like, oh, a dog. It's kind of like, okay, yeah, it's a dog. But like I still kind of feel bad. So it's kind of like a lot of people are like, yeah, we like even my mom, like and my brother, they're like, yeah, if you didn't get a degree in something weird, like we expected you to go into the military or some kind of like. Or like she just, she literally had just like told me like if you don't end up a serial killer, like I'm just happy for you. Preferably a doctor.
Lyle
Okay, so you've been lobotomizing rats for four years.
Marcus
So like I just dipped because like Levant like the lab, they're like, they're sure like they just do weird things but they're snobby about it. So like I ended up in like children research which. But what I still do is kind of weird because I just put electrodes on kids head like and I call parents saying like, hey, can we have your child please? And like at first like I was questioning like why they chose me until they got into recruitment process and I'm like, oh, yeah, like within for the first four minutes, I need to like, explain to them what I'm. Why I'm calling for their children. Like, I just go down an email list and like phone list and I just call every parent and I'm like, okay, yeah, they're not going to like, find like a young girl or like young college students suspicious.
Lyle
So why not? Why what? What, what? If you could like do anything with this degree, what would you do?
Marcus
Well, like, recently I figured out, like, I really like machines and working with animals. Like, not like I like animals, but it's kind of like I, I don't like talking to people. Honestly, like kids, I can deal because, like, well, they're not as complicated as adults. But like a lot of things happened in my life that I just went like, yeah, no, humanity sucks. Like, the reason. Oh yeah, I remember the reason why I called you is because, yeah, what is happening to the guys around me are like, at least like men in the society. Because, like, I'm not going to sound like Misandras, but come on. Like, like, like my guy friend of like eight years, like when I was like talking about, like, hey, I don't have a job, like, but I still don't really want to go into the military yet. And I was like, well, like as a half joke, I said like, I mean, like, Instagram is like either like pushing me towards a sugar baby or like the military, which are like the same thing. And like after we like, we just talked for like two hours and we like, I just had a beer and I was like, well, I'm not going to get drunk. So like, oh, screw that. So I talked to him and like at the end of the conversation, the two hour conversation, he wasn't acting weird. He suddenly goes into his room and said like, wait here. And he pulls out a wad of cash and said like, here. And I'm like, I was in denial, but turns out I was solicited. And I was like, yeah, no, that.
Lyle
He pulled out a wad of cash.
Marcus
To like, yeah, before that. Before that, like, I was on the phone call with him and I was like, hey, you're doing okay. Like you had a rough patch with your girlfriend. And like he had a toxic relationship. And I was like, yeah, no, that's toxic. Like you really want to go down this road? And I was like, I didn't say leave her, but it's kind of like it was even obvious to me that I was like, yeah, that's not good. And I, I don't know what an infamous wisdom. Just decided to, like, he said, like, yeah, I just found, like, cash in my room. And I was like, he was talking about getting something nice, and I'm like, no. So I ended up cutting content.
Lyle
Whoa. How you said you knew this guy for, like, eight years?
Marcus
Yeah, since, like, I don't know, like, high school. Like, I actually come from, like. Like, I went to school in Japan for. And like, since my. Both of my parents were military, we moved around. So, like, when I first got here, he was one of the first few friends I made. So it kind of stinks. So. But, like, strangely enough, I don't feel sad. Like, it's kind of like, well, it's just probably the people I knew throughout my life because, like, yeah, like, I've been robbed by, like, close people. Almost got, like, a murder attempt on my life while getting my degree. And, like, I did work at, like, a dental office where I'm like, a random guy walks in and said, like, yeah, I just got stabbed the other day. I'm like, oh, yeah, sure. Should I just pull the bat, like, seat a little bit back slower? And enough crazy things happen that I'm like, well, should have saw that coming. Yeah. So, like, I don't want to think that like. Like, people are like, oh, you're crazy. But I'm like, okay, yeah, but you guys have problems too, so at least I'm upfront about mine.
Lyle
Why? Who's telling you that you're crazy? And why. Why are they saying you're crazy?
Marcus
Well, my brother. But my brother is. He. He, like, I just, like, I usually joke about it, but, like, yeah, sure. Like, we went through the same. Because, like, honestly, my. Both of our, like, our parents were like, did not have a good time a lot. So he looks at me and looking at me, like, on, like, nonchalant about it, and he was like, yeah, so probably it's just the shenanigans I get into. So, yes, like, the moment I told him, like, so another thing is, like, actually, like, probably, like, the first time I was deciding, like, I wanted to call you was like, I think last year, fall. But I'm just going to bring up this now, but. So I was on a research lab and I was like, hey, this is actually kind of fun, but turns out I don't know why my supervisor hated me. So I got fired. But, like, I thought I made a friend. Then that friend went off to the deep end because, like, she was on some substances and, like, tried to run a 60 in the middle of the mountains. And I was like, oh, tried to.
Lyle
Try to run up. Try to run a What?
Marcus
Like a 60, like 60 miles per hour on, like a mountain. Mountain. Like a dirt road.
Lyle
Huh.
Marcus
And I was just sitting there of like, yeah, see you. And she just yelled at me to get off. So, like, yes, I. I called the counseling services and said, like, hey, this girl is going off to deep end. Get her to my school because we went to the same school. So I was like, yeah, like, getting my degree, should I not cost my life? But hey, something happens, I guess.
Lyle
How old are you, May?
Marcus
23.
Lyle
Okay. And you're good? You just grab. You're graduating? Well, yeah. Okay. It's. It's no pun intended. It's May. So you're graduating?
Marcus
Yeah. Yes.
Lyle
Okay.
Marcus
So. But at least on the bright side, I got a good GPA in graduating, so. Hooray.
Lyle
Hooray for sure. Are you. Do you have, like. I mean, like, do you have, like, a guidance counselor at the school who's like, yo, here's how we're gonna help you get a job?
Marcus
Oh, no, they see me, like, they see me so many times. Like, they, like, actually, like, the guidance counselor need to, like, contact all the science major kids because my school is a small school, so they end, like, actually, like, a private. So they want everybody to, like, especially, like, get out with a job or at least with a job. So, like, they're like, trying to get everybody to a program, but they're like, well, you can got. You guys can contact me for the next five years. So, like, even they're panicking.
Lyle
I'm sorry. They say. They say. They said, if. What? You can't contact them for the past five years?
Marcus
No, like the next five years. Like, I still can use their resources. So they're like, well, contact us. And my current, like, supervisor who's like, on the research are like, saying, hey, apply here. Hey, apply there. And even, like, I took a gap year, so my friends are trying to, like, get me into jobs, but I'm like, well, it's just like, when things get so bad, it just gets. Gets absurdly bad. And I'm like, well, I'm actually entertained for quite.
Lyle
She said that one more time.
Marcus
Like, when things get so bad, like, it just becomes, like, entertaining at some point, I guess.
Lyle
You have friends who are helping you try to get into jobs.
Marcus
Yep.
Lyle
Who are these friends?
Marcus
Yeah, like, friends who, like, graduated, like, biology and like, microbiology and actually, like, the, like, school friends. Like, I went to school because. And alumni. And then there's friends from high school that I still have contact with. So. Yay.
Lyle
That's a yay.
Marcus
Yeah.
Lyle
All these. All these. All these yays are. I think all these. These are all legitimate yays. These are all legitimate yays.
Marcus
Yeah. So it's not like, I think, like, I'm not calling depressed or, like, calling to cry about something because I legit wanted to cry about something a few months ago, but, like, now it passed on. Like, well, yeah. Why did that happen unprompted? Because, like, people are, like, People are like, I did get asked, like, so did you do anything? Like, later down the road, like, recently? They're. They're like, so you did anything? And I'm like, no, I hate touching people, like, and giving compliments. Like, I don't know why that happened to me.
Lyle
I'm sorry. You did. Did anything?
Marcus
Yeah, like, getting in this much trouble. Like, people are like, so you're leading someone on? And I'm like, no, I. I hate people. I don't like touching people. So, yeah, like, and when else, like, shadowing, like, the only. Only, like, bright side. Like, the bright side of, like, all this, like, weirdness? Because I. I have a lot of weird guy stories, but at least of all the men who hit me, like, I did hit way above my tax bracket. So I'm like, hey, like, I did pull, but I did not pull a bum. It's like, I joke about people, but I'm like, but I'm still not dating.
Lyle
You said. You said. You said you hit above your tax bracket.
Marcus
Yeah, it's all the people who were kind of weird towards me, or like, they were, but, like, legitimately, but at least, well, they made more money than me. So I'm like, hey, at least I pulled someone above my tax bracket. So I'm like, a win.
Lyle
Sure, sure, sure. Any win.
Marcus
So it's like, I mean, it's a weird way to, like, try to find a bright side, but, like, there is no bright side of that. Like, it's just absurd to find, like, a one. So. Yeah.
Lyle
Ah, man. You know, I like, I'm not even.
Marcus
In the dating scene, but, like, people in the dating scene, I just get a little bit worried because if there's. There's these weird guys that people find attractive, it's kind of like, so why you want to date?
Lyle
I mean, is this some. Is that something that you like? I mean, the way you're talking about it, I mean, that's. Is that something that you want is, like, to be dating?
Marcus
Nope. Nope. Like, halfway through College. I come. Like, I figured out, like, I was completely ace.
Lyle
Oh, okay.
Marcus
Like, I dipped out. Like.
Lyle
Well, I mean, I. That's. I will say that is one stressful part of life that I guess you don't have to participate in. Do you. I mean, how do you. How do you feel about that? Do you feel like. Do. Do you. Are you, like, is it like a source of internal. This is maybe kind of personal, but, like. And you don't have to talk about anything you don't want to talk about, but is it like.
Marcus
Yeah.
Lyle
Is it like a source of internal conflict for you?
Marcus
No, Like, I still have a fun time, like, talking to people who I like, generally find, like, interesting to talk to. And. And honestly, like, I'm thinking, like, is there anything besides in life than alcohol and research? Because I guess those things actually bring joy. I guess I still love talking to people. So, like. But it's not like, a source of stress. Probably the only stress is, like, my mom's, like, Japanese, so like, every single time I meet her side of the family, they're like, wow, you're so pretty. Like, why don't you, like, get married? And I'm like, yeah, can. Can I. Can you just send me back to the lab? I don't want to talk to anyone.
Lyle
May I hope that. Well, first of all, listen. May I hope it was, like, helpful to. Or I hope you. I hope it was remotely helpful to.
Marcus
Yeah.
Lyle
On the phone.
Marcus
I mean, I.
Lyle
But I. I also want to say. I hope.
Marcus
Listen, like, probably, like, I would want an advice, but, like, at the same time, like, I did not for advice.
Lyle
I'm not a. Sorry, go ahead. You. Sorry, go ahead. I'm just interrupting you. What were you saying?
Marcus
It's just, like, probably half advice, like, half question of, like, why are people so weird like this? Like, I mean, like, they get weirded out that, like. Like, I like the things I do for my. Like, what I want to do for a job, but then they, like, get weird, and I'm like, so why is that as weird?
Lyle
I. Nobody has any answers as to why anyone is the way they are. I mean, maybe they do, but. Yeah, look, I. I'll just say this. I hope. Look, it's no fucking secret that, you know, I'm Have. Have struggled myself with, like, negative perceptions of. Of the world and whatnot. And I'm no. I'm no expert in fixing those things. I don't have. I. I wish I had anything, like, inspiring necessarily to say, but I. I mean, I don't know, man. Do you talk to a therapist?
Marcus
Well, I did, but now I'm graduating so I'm going to lose that privilege. Yeah, well, like I still like have people who I can talk to, I guess. So it's not much of a big deal for me. Or like it's not like oh, I'm alone or like I'm going to be sad, but still it's kind of like the thing that I just accept that I need to deal with in life, I guess. But still I'm like, like it's kind of like eh. I feel it's like kind of uncalled for, I guess.
Lyle
What, what's up? What's uncalled for? Therapy?
Marcus
I don't know. Like people just, I mean my genuine question like after, like I didn't think I was going to graduate with the question like why are people so weird? Like sure, like in neuroscience like you learn about behavior, so. And what I figured out was like, yeah, people are weird. And then I learned about like in the field, like in neuroscience or psychology, everybody's like drugged up, so.
Lyle
Oh, like, like, like all the other, all the other researchers are like taking a bunch of drugs. Drugs?
Marcus
Yeah, like that re like one researcher like who I was like working with, she was like right after a conference she just like went straight to dispensary and like got like, got some weed. And I was like well I don't do weed but I'm an alcoholic so I don't do weed. And she's like okay, sure.
Lyle
Yeah. I mean, yeah, yeah. Self medicating is definitely, it's definitely a thing. It's definitely. I always, I always have, I have to imagine, I have to imagine. It's kind of interesting like being in the field like neuroscience where you, I assume you have, you're studying all these things about like, like dopamine and serotonin and no epinephrine and all this, all these like brain chemicals. And so you have like a, it must be kind of like, it must be a psychedelic, bizarre contradiction. No, no, like, like, like, like I've.
Marcus
Always, I've always people like the old 10 years or like the old people who are like, have white hair in the field, they're like, you think they're going to be the smartest, but like they're the people who were doing it from the 90s. And I'm like okay, you're worse than us.
Lyle
But I was going to say it must be kind of weird to like have this logical understanding of how the brain works from like a very, very Empirical point of view and then still be a slave to it, you know?
Marcus
Yeah.
Lyle
And then still you do all this research, you learn about all the chemicals, you learn, and you're still a slave to the thing. It's insane.
Marcus
No, it's, it's wild. Like, at least like, like, actually, like, I got like a work, like when I was taking psychopharmacology, which is like, basically drugs. Like, it's a study about drugs. So we had always had like, this homework of, like, where we read like, a case study or a prompt about, like, this person going through something. Like, it could be medical, but like, one of the papers where like, so this guy decided to make compound during his chemistry class and decided to use it. Then suddenly his arms and legs won't move. What happened? And I'm like, well, he's a boss, so I'm like, why did you do that guy? So, but like, we need to explain, like, how the dopamine pathway works. And I was like, well, like, yeah, may everybody, that last. Everybody. Like, I can just say it from like a search here, but, like, looking at people, even like people at regular fields, it's kind of like you're a slave to something. At least make it interesting.
Lyle
You're, you're always gonna be a slave to something. At least make it interesting. Yeah, I, I, I guess that's, I guess you are always going to be a slave to. So, I mean, everyone is a slave to like, I mean, everyone's a slave to, like, their own mortality at the end of the day. Yeah, I mean, actually, maybe that's not true. Maybe you're not a slave to it if you don't fear it or you don't think about it.
Marcus
Yeah. And like, I'll be the first to admit, like, I, like, I do take stressful jobs. Like, I, I, the whole thing. Like, even during college, I took stressful jobs because I think, like, the moment you're about, like, you feel like you're about to fail and, like, you don't. It's like the biggest high I will ever get. It's kind of like, yes, I'm better than this. It's like, so rewarding to me that, like, people are like, so why do you torture yourself? And I'm like, well, it makes me feel better about myself. Well, I find joy in it. So I'm like. And I was like, hey, I'm actually finding joy in helping people.
Lyle
Good, Good, dear God. Good. I'm gonna go ahead and be optimistic that you and for whatever, for whatever this word fucking means. Manifest? I don't know. I. Yeah, I predict you'll be able to find some job or thing or role or whatever the world where you can help. Where you, where you feel like you can help somebody.
Marcus
Yep, I hope so too.
Lyle
Who knows? Maybe you helped somebody by talking on this show and they're like, oh, okay, I understand. I have similar thoughts and I'm not alone in my crazy thoughts.
Marcus
I mean, like, I like, pop, like, pop into, like, watch your shows time to time and like, people, like, there are some episodes, some, like, people feel guilt over it. And on the Kate, the smartest people in the world actually have the same problems with you. At least. Like, they're high functioning. Don't feel bad about it.
Lyle
May, is there anything else you want to say to the people of the computer before we go?
Marcus
Like. Like, there's weird jobs around there, I guess, probably. Like, I just wanted to, like, ask everybody, like, how do you become a decent human being? Because I don't know either.
Lyle
How do you become a decent human being? Well. Well, there's no objective. There is no objective measure of what is a decent human being. I mean, there's a. There's. There's a lot of general consensus. Humans generally reach the consensus that murdering people is bad. But there is no, like. I mean, if it's all chaos, there's no real. Well, how do you become a decent human being? I mean, I guess you. You in your brain, I guess. I guess, I guess you as an individual come up with your own definition of what it means to be a decent human being, and then you try as hard as you can within your own primal human limitations to, you know, do that. I guess. I guess you kind of form your own fucking thing and then. And the great news is, is that if you fuck up, you can just lower your own bar.
Marcus
That's a nice thing. Yeah, I did not think about that.
Lyle
Well, I don't know. Try the best you can, May.
Marcus
Yeah, thank you. I hope you do good too. Bye. Bye.
Lyle
Man, what a crazy podcast that I'm doing here. That was May and that was Colette and that was. What was the name of the Australian guy who's gonna. Who better call a lawyer? He better call Larry. What's his name? Maverick Josh, Something like that. Okay, this has been the Therapy Gecko podcast. This was a fun, fun. This is an engaging episode. I felt very engaged for all these conversations. I hope you enjoyed it as a listener. This was a good. Yeah, man, this was a good episode. This was cool. I. A lot of the time Man, a lot of the times I sit down to do this and I'm sit down to like do a stream and I'm like, I don't know if I can do this. And then sometimes, you know, shut the laptop off and I'm like, wow, that was actually. That's a good episode. Those were some, those were some engaging conversations. This is one of them. Thanks for being along on the journey. Crazy planet. We're living on crazy planet. I don't have anything else to say. The vyvanse hasn't, hasn't worn off yet. So I'm gonna go, I don't know, do a push up or something and that's it. I don't have anything else to say. Do I have anything else to say? I don't know. I want to make more YouTube video. That YouTube video that I posted on Sunday, which you can find on my YouTube channel, YouTube.comlylefore. i want to make more stuff like that. I want to make more stuff. I want to do more things. I want to be alive. I wanna, I want to continue to want. I want to continue to feel and think and not, you know, be okay. Just be okay. Enjoy life, look at stuff, eat things. We're okay. Everything's all right. Okay? End of podcast.
May
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Therapy Gecko Podcast Episode Summary: “I WAS BANNED FROM ROBLOX”
Release Date: May 14, 2025
Host: Lyle (Therapy Gecko)
Podcast: Therapy Gecko by iHeartPodcasts
In the "I WAS BANNED FROM ROBLOX" episode of Therapy Gecko, host Lyle engages in deep and often candid conversations with callers, delving into personal struggles, mental health challenges, and everyday frustrations. This episode stands out for its raw honesty and the therapeutic exchange between the host and the guests.
Timestamp: 02:08 – 28:31
Background:
Colette, a 31-year-old woman, initiates the conversation by sharing her frustration over being banned from Roblox. However, the discussion quickly unravels into a broader exploration of her personal life, including recent relocations, family dynamics, and her aspirations in the film industry.
Key Points Discussed:
Roblox Ban Incident:
Colette describes playing a new game on Roblox that was intended to be peaceful but turned out to be aggressive and chaotic. Her reaction to the in-game harassment led to her banning.
Personal Struggles and Relocation:
She recently moved from Texas to Atlanta, seeking comfort and proximity to her extended family while grappling with the loss of her grandmother who entered hospice.
Family Dynamics and Mental Health:
Colette delves into her conservative family background, the stress of performing to please her grandparents, and the impact of her family's instability on her mental health.
Aspirations in Film and Anxiety:
Her dream is to work in the film industry in Atlanta, but she faces anxiety about living up to her own expectations and the person she wants to become.
Isolation and Trust Issues:
Despite her move, Colette feels isolated and struggles to trust herself in forming new, positive relationships.
Host’s Advice and Support:
Lyle offers practical advice on networking within the film industry, encouraging her to attend events, reach out to professionals, and actively seek connections to pursue her career goals.
Conclusion of the Call:
Colette expresses gratitude for the support and advice, acknowledging the need to take proactive steps toward her goals and mental well-being.
Timestamp: 33:00 – 57:45
Background:
Josh, also referred to as Marcus in the transcript, shares a harrowing experience of a workplace injury that has significantly impacted his life and career. His struggle with his employer's handling of the workers' compensation process becomes a central theme of the conversation.
Key Points Discussed:
Workplace Injury Details:
Josh recounts how he fell into a shallow hole while operating a vacuum truck, leading to a slipped disc and ongoing issues with his leg.
Employer’s Response and Workers' Compensation Issues:
His employer initially downplayed the severity of the injury, reluctant to file a workers' comp claim, which only became inevitable after his condition worsened.
Medical Treatment and Ongoing Challenges:
Despite undergoing multiple treatments and physiotherapy, Josh continues to suffer from his injury, facing difficulties in his daily work, especially driving.
Host’s Advice – Urgency to Seek Legal Assistance:
Lyle strongly advises Josh to consult with a lawyer to navigate the complexities of workers' compensation and protect his rights against a potentially toxic employer.
Emotional and Mental Impact:
The ongoing stress of dealing with his injury, job instability, and lack of support has taken an emotional toll on Josh, leading him to seek help through the podcast.
Resolution and Encouragement:
Through persistent encouragement, Lyle convinces Josh to take immediate action by calling a lawyer, emphasizing the importance of legal support in such situations.
Conclusion of the Call:
Josh acknowledges the advice and expresses a commitment to reach out to legal professionals, demonstrating the therapeutic nature of seeking help.
In the closing segment, Lyle reflects on the profound and engaging conversations from the episode, underscoring the importance of seeking help and making proactive changes in one's life.
Colette on Isolation:
“I just like don’t know where to start at this point.” (08:51)
Lyle on Networking:
“Just go to one of these networking events that I'm sure happen all over ATL and ask these people that.” (22:44)
Josh on Workplace Struggles:
“They have come up to me and said, you know, like, are you being honest with us about the whole thing?” (44:44)
Lyle’s Urgency:
“You need a lawyer, man. You need a lawyer.” (50:10)
Final Encouragement:
“Please, please call a lawyer today, man.” (56:09)
This episode of Therapy Gecko highlights the multifaceted nature of personal struggles and the importance of seeking support—be it through professional advice, networking, or legal assistance. Colette’s journey from a simple Roblox ban to confronting deep-seated anxieties and aspirations serves as a poignant reminder of the complexities individuals face. Similarly, Josh’s ordeal with workplace injury underscores the significance of standing up for one’s rights and the therapeutic value of open dialogue.
Lyle’s role as a host is both empathetic and proactive, offering actionable advice while fostering an environment where guests feel safe to share their vulnerabilities. The episode effectively balances light-hearted topics with heavy personal issues, making it relatable and engaging for a diverse audience.
Note: This summary excludes advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content segments to focus solely on the meaningful conversations and insights shared during the episode.