“SHOULD I HAVE A THREESOME WITH MY NEIGHBORS?”

Summary

Podcast Summary: Therapy Gecko

Host: Lyle (The Gecko)
Episode: “SHOULD I HAVE A THREESOME WITH MY NEIGHBORS?”
Date: January 28, 2026
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this characteristically freewheeling episode, Therapy Gecko’s Lyle takes calls from listeners navigating personal crossroads, social dilemmas, and philosophical rabbit holes. The episode's titular question – whether a caller should engage in a threesome with her neighbors – launches a raw discussion about life in a new city, impulsivity, and self-discovery. Other segments explore navigating friendship breakups, the obligations of adult relationships, the peculiarities of animal mating, and quirky Wikipedia deep dives, all underscored by Lyle's irreverent, humanistic wisdom.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Adjusting to Life in NYC & the Threesome Dilemma

Caller: Coralie (03:35–15:22)

• Moving for “the Plot”

  • Coralie recently moved from Vermont to Brooklyn for a change of pace, feeling a bit lost, jobless, and without a strong social circle.
  • She expected New York to deliver a sense of adventure but finds it unexpectedly lonely. Lyle reassures her:

    “Just existing in New York... it's so fucking expensive and crazy... It's the kind of the point of being there. The point is to feel the fire under your ass...” (Lyle, 04:42)

  • Coralie’s early weeks include exploring, job-hunting, sunrises on the roof – and being propositioned for a threesome by her neighbor.

• “Should I Have a Threesome with My Neighbors?” (06:54+)

  • Coralie reveals she’s intrigued by the “plot” of the proposition, having researched group sex on PornHub, despite being straight and unsure.
  • Lyle unpacks the ambivalence:

    “You didn’t immediately shut it down... it seems like you have some form of interest.” (Lyle, 07:30)

  • The duo explores how modern experiences are sometimes pursued for the story, not necessarily desire.
  • Both agree: doing things “for the plot” can be valid, but caution against regret or going against authentic desires:

    “I feel like I shouldn’t do it. I feel like I’m just doing it for the wrong reasons, honestly.” (Coralie, 10:40)

  • Lyle provides existential perspective:

    “There’s no real reason to have sex other than reproduction... but we live life far beyond the biological lens into more humanistic.” (Lyle, 11:01)

• Whimsical Detour: “Prey” and Alien Philosophies

  • Coralie ponders being prey (like a mouse), sparking a meditative riff from Lyle about consciousness, hierarchy of beings, and perspective.

    “You might be in the same position as the rat... There could be a being so much more conscious than you.” (Lyle, 13:06)

• Coralie’s Parting Words to Listeners

  • “Be yourself and life’s not that serious... live it up.” (Coralie, 15:00)

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2. Navigating Friendship Breakups and Adult Social Obligations

Caller: Stella (15:38–40:12)

• Identity, Homes, and Mixed Feelings

  • Stella, a Kiwi who’s lived in America for eight years, reflects on feeling split between cultures, never having truly experienced her home country as an adult.

• A “Friendship Break” & Guilt

  • Stella describes a recent (platonic) friend “breakup,” expressing guilt even though she feels better and is simply less drawn to the relationship.

    “I feel like I understand how I feel right now... but I feel guilty about how I feel.” (Stella, 21:12)

  • Lyle reframes the dilemma:

    “Her doing all that stuff for you does not inherently obligate you to do all those things back for her... Your obligation and your time and your attention will gravitate towards the people you want it to.” (Lyle, 23:24)

  • He argues for intentional, limited focus in relationships—cultivating a “handcrafted list” of people you genuinely want in your life, versus expending energy out of obligation.

• The Social Media Layer

  • Discussion of how social media blurs the boundaries of connection and increases pressure to maintain relationships.

• Affirming “Quality over Quantity”

  • Stella shares a positive example: regularly scheduled hikes with a favorite friend (“super cute and intentional,” 34:52)
  • Lyle concludes:

    “You’re not an antisocial monster... You have the capability to feel and connect... Direct your focus out of genuine desire, not obligation.” (Lyle, 35:08)

• Takeaway for Listeners

  • Stella: “If you really want to dye your hair and you’re too scared to, you should just do it.” (39:59)

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3. “I Have a Secret to Share”: Subverting Expectations and Wikipedia Deep Dives

Caller: Coulter (44:54–86:46)

• Fake Secret, Real Conversation

  • Coulter calls after texting that he has a big secret—actually, he doesn’t (“Not even a joke secret? I'm trying so hard to think of a joke... I'm too high to do that right now.” Coulter, 46:09).
  • Lyle rolls with the lack of content, leading to a wide-ranging, surprisingly earnest Wikipedia-fueled exploration.

• Psychology, Down Syndrome, and Sincerity

  • Coulter, a photographer with a psych degree, expresses a genuine interest in working with people with Down Syndrome.

• Stray but Thoughtful Topics:

  • Tampa Details: Chickens wandering in Ybor, local color, and dating anecdotes.
  • Animal Mating Facts: The mechanics of chicken and duck reproduction, including the “cloacal kiss” (56:47) and the legend of duck penises.
  • Mandela Effect: Misremembered facts; a segue to Nelson Mandela’s achievements (“Imagine on your Wikipedia page, it just says he’s one of the greatest guys that’s ever lived.” Lyle, 64:33).
  • Time Travel Hypotheticals: Would Lyle go back in history to change major events? No (“I don’t think I could have stopped the Holocaust.” Lyle, 66:41). Discussion on the limits of individual action, nature vs. nurture, and moral quandaries (Would you kill baby Hitler?).

• Age Gaps & Celebrity Facts:

  • Lyle and Coulter discuss notable age differences in relationships (Nelson Mandela, Dick Van Dyke), and philosophical musings about maturity, life span, and death.

• Reflecting on Connection:

  • Despite joking about the call’s meanderings, Lyle appreciates the simple, unstructured joy of sharing curiosity and humanity.

• Coulter’s Parting Message:

  • “Live your life to the fullest, guys. And just remember that love is everything.” (Coulter, 85:57)
  • A mutual, sincerely over-the-top exchange of “I love you”s closes the segment.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On New York Transplants:

  “Nobody retires and then moves to New York City... It’s a place to chase dreams and feel the fire under your ass.”
  (Lyle, 04:43)

• Doing It “For the Plot”:

  “I kind of just want to do it for the plot... I was, like, on Pornhub, like, researching last night...”
  (Coralie, 07:41)

• Friendship Priorities:

  “You have just a finite amount of time and energy... You have to pick the people or the things that take your energy. If you let it flow where you feel obligated, you’re living a life you didn’t create for yourself.”
  (Lyle, 23:24)

• The Being-prey Thought Experiment:

  “You might be in the same position as the rat... There could be a being more conscious than you are.”
  (Lyle, 13:06)

• Fake Secrets and Real Connection:

  “What would you have said if I had just said, okay, what's the secret?”
  “I probably would have said, I think my cat's gay.”
  (Lyle & Coulter, 46:42)

• Wikipedia Rabbit Hole:

  “Basically an entire podcast of me browsing Wikipedia with you. And I don't mind that at all.”
  (Lyle, 84:49)

• Parting Advice:

  “Be yourself and life’s not that serious... live it up.”
  (Coralie, 15:00)
  “Bleach and dye your hair.”
  (Stella, 40:04)
  “Live your life to the fullest, and just remember that love is everything.”
  (Coulter, 85:57)

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Episode Timeline (Timestamps)

• [01:34] – [15:22] Coralie: Moving to NY, isolation, adventure, and the neighbor-threesome proposition.
• [15:38] – [40:12] Stella: Expat identity, navigating a friendship “break,” social obligations, and intentional friendship.
• [44:54] – [86:46] Coulter: The (non-)secret, Tampa life, animal facts, Mandela Effect, philosophical tangents, mutual appreciation.

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Tone & Style

The episode is thoughtful yet unfussy, blending vulnerable admissions with offbeat humor and the host’s signature philosophical detours. Lyle’s “lizard psychologist” persona delivers both wry realism and empathetic wisdom, never missing a chance to explore the strange and the sweet in ordinary modern life. Callers share freely—sometimes anxious, sometimes silly, always genuine—making for an engaging, relatable listen.

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For listeners who missed it: This episode exemplifies Therapy Gecko’s unique charm—foggy with weed, full of random Wikipedia facts, but refreshingly real about how humans stumble into adulthood, connection, and absurdity. The answer to “Should I have a threesome with my neighbors?” isn’t prescriptive, but emblematic: life’s weird plots are yours to write, and the only constant should be doing what feels right for you.

Transcript

[Michelle Williams]

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[Lyle]

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[Lyle]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Lyle]

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[Ryder Strong]

I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth. Listen to the Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

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[Stella]

What?

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

You probably won't believe it either.

[Stella]

Was this before he wrote his stories?

[Lyle]

It must have been.

[Stella]

Okay, I don't think that's true.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

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[Lyle]

Hello.

[Coralie]

Hello.

[Lyle]

What's up? What's your name?

[Coralie]

Oh, my God. Is this Lyle?

[Lyle]

It is, bro.

[Coralie]

This is sick. I'm going by Coralie.

[Lyle]

Coralie. That's like that movie.

[Coralie]

Oh, that's Coraline.

[Lyle]

I said it was like that movie.

[Coralie]

Sure. This is based on a character in a show with Debbie Ryan.

[Lyle]

Oh, so this you say. Wait, your name is. Your name is based on a fictional character? Your fake name, Correct?

[Coralie]

Correct.

[Lyle]

Tell me about this character.

[Coralie]

Oh, God. She's like a. A mom who is like, this Southern woman who grew up in a trailer park, and she, like, has a threesome with her husband, and her husband's, like, rival, and it's like. It's a crazy show. It's called Insatiable. You should watch it.

[Lyle]

Do you. Did you pick that name because you like the character or because you feel like you have something in common with them?

[Coralie]

Because I like the character. She's a good actress. She's funny. Yeah.

[Lyle]

Coralie.

[Coralie]

Coralie.

[Lyle]

Is there a reason you called today, Coralie?

[Coralie]

Yes, I want to talk about my recent move to New York.

[Lyle]

Oh, cool.

[Coralie]

Where?

[Lyle]

Where from?

[Coralie]

From Vermont.

[Lyle]

And how has it been going?

[Coralie]

It is okay. I. It doesn't feel real. I feel like I'm like on vacation still.

[Lyle]

Why did you move to New York?

[Coralie]

I don't know. I was having like a quarter life crisis and I was kind of like in a dead end, like working at a diner and I don't know, I just want to change a pace. Before I was like 40 with four kids, you know, I was like, I want to live in the city and live it up a little bit and.

[Lyle]

Okay. You called in to want to talk about your move? Anything specifically about it?

[Coralie]

Yeah, I guess. Well, I don't know. You talking about stuff all the time, but I just. I don't have a job. I moved here without a job. I have, like, no friends. I have like two friends that live here. And I'm just trying to navigate that. It's. It's kind of hard to find a job. I'm like, just trying to get a serving job, but I guess I'm being lazy. It's kind of a lot of work. You have to print out your resume and go around and introduce yourself everywhere.

[Lyle]

Yeah. Well, you meet New York City, Correct?

[Coralie]

Correct. Yeah. Brooklyn.

[Lyle]

How long have you been in Brooklyn?

[Coralie]

Like, three weeks.

[Lyle]

You've been here. You've been here for three weeks. Where you live, are you living with people?

[Coralie]

Yeah, I have one roommate.

[Lyle]

How do you pay the rent?

[Coralie]

Well, I have. I'm living off of savings right now.

[Lyle]

Oh, okay. All right. How long. How long do you have until those savings run out?

[Coralie]

Oh, geez. A couple months. I have a little bit of a safety net.

[Lyle]

Okay, here's the thing about New York City, and this is. Here's the thing about New York City, and this is, I think, why a lot of people live there is New York City is filled with rich people and poor people and neither of them have enough money. It is a city that forever tells you that you don't have enough money. And so that encourages you to. It's a place. You like it. Like, nobody retires and then moves to New York City because. Just existing in New York, like, because it's so fucking expensive and crazy. And everyone, like, moves there to, like, chase their dreams and stuff. Like, it. It's the kind of the point of being there. Weird. It's a weird thing, but, like, the point of being there is to, like, feel the fire under your ass. Like, and this is, this is. This is mainly for people who move. This is not. If you. If you just happen to be birthed into New York City, and you're by it. I, I feel for you, but if you move to New York City, you kind of move in there to, like, have the, the fire under your ass, you know, to make.

[Coralie]

No, totally. I'm not accepting any titty. I knew what I was going into, but that's not. It's definitely lonelier than I thought, but. But that'll come a time I got to, like, find my community, you know?

[Lyle]

You've been there for three weeks.

[Coralie]

I know. It's not that long. What am I doing?

[Lyle]

Yeah, like, what have you been doing for those three weeks?

[Coralie]

Oh, God. I'm, like, wandering around, shopping. I did hand out some resumes. I was becoming a regular at a diner around here, climbing the fire escape to watch the sunrise on my roof.

[Lyle]

You're doing great. I see you. You're. That's a great first three weeks in New York, right?

[Coralie]

That's like. Those are, like, New York City things.

[Lyle]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Coralie]

Can I ask you a random question?

[Lyle]

You can ask me a random question. Yeah.

[Coralie]

Have you ever had a threesome?

[Lyle]

I, I, I. What makes you want to ask me this?

[Stella]

Because.

[Coralie]

Because I met my neighbor the other day, and he asked me out of the blue if I would have a threesome with him and his girlfriend. Thinking about it, I, Like, I didn't say yes. I didn't say no, but I'm like, oh, God, I don't. I don't know if I can do that, like, with a close, intimate couple. Like, I don't know.

[Lyle]

Wait, the fact that you didn't immediately. Because this doesn't sound like a story of, like, a creepy thing, the way you're responding to it, it seems like you have some form of interest.

[Coralie]

Like, kind of like, I kind of just want to do it for the plot. I was, like, on pornhub, like, researching last night. Like, I don't even know what to do. Like, I'm not. I'm, like, straight. I don't even know if I would enjoy that. But.

[Lyle]

What did you find in your research?

[Coralie]

I was just. I mean, I guess that's all staged, most important, on the stage, so it's not really authentic, but just, like, the different positions, like, who's where, who's making out with who. Like, I don't know. I've never really thought about it too deeply. You didn't answer my question.

[Lyle]

I'll.

[Coralie]

Would you or would you want to?

[Lyle]

Would I. Would I want to?

[Coralie]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

Well, it depends on the scenario. I don't think that's. If that guy asked if that Guy asked me if I wanted to have a threesome with him and his wife. I'd probably. I was going to say. I'd probably say no, but. Shit. Wait, you know what?

[Coralie]

Really?

[Lyle]

Actually, you know what? Well, I'm. Well, you know, I'm actually. You know what's funny is I'm really thinking about this. Like, if a guy. Okay. If, like, some guy down the hall from me.

[Coralie]

Hmm.

[Lyle]

Had, like, a hot wife and they were both like, do you want to have a threesome with me? I would. I feel where you're at because I would genuinely probably feel the same way as you do.

[Coralie]

Right.

[Stella]

Like, it's kind of exciting.

[Coralie]

I'm like, should I. Like where.

[Lyle]

I'm like. I mean, I'm. If they were like, okay. If they were like, do you want to have a threesome? But you also. You have to, like. Like, like my. Like, I also want my husband to, like, you know, like, be, like, be involved with you. I don't think I'd be into it, but if it was just like. If it was like, okay, we'll just do it and, like, it'll be like a porn thing where it's like, you know, okay, I'm going to take this position over here. Okay. You go over there. And we'll, you know, I mean, like, if there's, like, something like that. I think I could be something like that I would still be, like, apprehensive about. I'd be like, you. I'd be like, well, it's not like my preferred thing and I'm straight, but. But it would be an. It would be interesting for the plot. I agree.

[Coralie]

Right. Like, it'd be a cool story, but, like, yeah, I had threesome. My neighbor. Like, I don't know. That'd be kind of fun, I guess.

[Lyle]

Yeah.

[Coralie]

I would have to do, like, three shots before, but I would probably do.

[Lyle]

It for the plot myself. Yeah.

[Coralie]

Okay.

[Katie Couric]

Mm.

[Coralie]

Thanks for your opinion.

[Lyle]

Um, Was. Are you attracted to this couple? Sorry, I don't know if there's anything more to mine here, but.

[Coralie]

I don't know. I. I don't. I've even met the girlfriend, so, like, not really. I feel like I shouldn't do it. I feel like I'm just doing it for the wrong reasons. Honestly.

[Lyle]

The only objectively right reason to have sex is to reproduce.

[Coralie]

Please yourself. Yeah, that's true. You're right.

[Lyle]

I even. That. I don't know. There's. I don't even know if. I don't even know if. I don't even agree with what I just said, I don't think they're really. No. Yeah. Well, I don't. Is. I don't know if. Object. I don't know if. Okay. It's the only. Biologically. Through a biological lens. If you want to view life through a biological lens, there's no real reason to have sex other than reproduction. But we live life far beyond the biological lens into more humanistic. So I don't know. You should do what you want. That could be fun. You've only been here for three. You should stop. See, that's the thing. You've been here for three weeks and you've watched the sunset. You've been propositioned for threesome. You've handed out your resume a couple times. You're doing good. You're gonna. You're gonna have. There's gonna be so many more things that happen to you.

[Coralie]

You're right.

[Lyle]

As life goes on, so don't freak out. Maybe you make friends with them. Maybe if you could be like.

[Coralie]

Yeah, I'm definitely already becoming friends with guys, so, yeah, thanks. I need that reassurance. Have you. Have you ever thought about. Sorry, I'm just asking, like, random high thoughts.

[Lyle]

That's okay.

[Coralie]

Have you ever thought about what it'd be like to be, like, prey? Like, if you're like a small mouse living in the world, like, your life would be so scary. You'd just be, like, thinking about food and hiding and taking care of your family all the time.

[Lyle]

I think about food and hiding as this.

[Coralie]

Yeah, I guess people do that too. Yeah.

[Lyle]

No, I've thought. I've thought about what it's like to be like a critter.

[Coralie]

Yeah. Critter. Yeah.

[Lyle]

Horrible life. I like being right.

[Coralie]

Like, that just sounds sad.

[Lyle]

Horrible life.

[Coralie]

But they don't know any different, so I like being human too.

[Lyle]

Hey, get this. You might be in the same position as the rat.

[Coralie]

What? Rat. What?

[Lyle]

Okay, because you could be. There could be a thing that's more conscious than you are, that's so much better to be. Than what you are. Which is what like a mouse is. Right. Which is what? A mouse.

[Coralie]

Oh, my God. Yeah. Like. Like alien entity kind of thing or higher power.

[Lyle]

Yeah, there could be like. Yeah, you wouldn't know. There could be like a. Like an immortal being of. Of greater pleasure and intelligence and whatever, but you don't know. And honestly, that being could exist and that being could sit around being like, oh, I wish I was a dumb human. And then I wouldn't be so tortured by my hyper awareness and Intellect of the mechanisms of the greater universe. I wish I could just get high and play video games like the humans do.

[Coralie]

Wow. I actually didn't really think about that. Now I'm be thinking about that all night.

[Lyle]

Do you have any other questions?

[Stella]

I know.

[Coralie]

I'm sorry. Everyone says, like, they get nervous, like, it's true, Like, I really respect this. More questions.

[Lyle]

It's okay. You don't have to. It's okay if you don't.

[Coralie]

I don't. Honestly, I don't know. I can't think of any on the spot.

[Lyle]

Caroline. Caroline.

[Coralie]

Coralie.

[Lyle]

Coralie. We. We're getting quarterly Coral. If you. If you text your friends with an update four times a year, you'd be giving quarterly Coraly updates.

[Coralie]

That's good. I like that.

[Lyle]

Is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?

[Coralie]

Wait, is this gonna make him a podcast or. No.

[Lyle]

Yeah, probably.

[Coralie]

Okay. I want to say, be yourself and life's not that serious.

[Lyle]

And.

[Coralie]

Yeah, live it up.

[Lyle]

Swag. Thank you, Coraline. Good. Rest of your entire life. I'll. I'll see you on the streets.

[Coralie]

Be on the Flair Blue. Bye. Bye.

[Lyle]

That was Coralie, who not to be confused with Coraline, which is a different thing. Hello?

[Coralie]

Hello?

[Stella]

Can you hear me now?

[Lyle]

I can. What's your name?

[Stella]

Stella. Oh, my gosh. I didn't think I'd actually get through.

[Coralie]

Sorry.

[Stella]

I know literally everyone says this when they. When they call in, but.

[Coralie]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lyle]

That's the thing, man. That's what's weird about life is you never think it'll happen to you, but then it does. Sometimes it's something good. Sometimes it's something good. I assume this is good. I assume you wanted. You want to be here. Sometimes it's something good. Sometimes it's something bad. You get, you know, in a car crash or stuck by. Struck by lightning, and you're like, oh, I didn't think that would happen to me, but it does. And that was a really depressing way to start this phone call, which I would prefer if it wasn't depressing or I actually. I guess I don't have a preference. I want this phone call to be. Whatever it is. I'm gonna shut up. Can you remember your name one more time? And I will never forget it ever again so long as I live.

[Stella]

Yeah, you'll definitely never forget it.

[Coralie]

Right.

[Stella]

Stella.

[Lyle]

Stella. Stella. Was there a particular reason why you called me today?

[Stella]

I was just trying to think about that while the phone was ringing again. I didn't think I'd actually get through. I know I have lots of good things and bad things in my life.

[Coralie]

I don't know.

[Stella]

Should we talk about something?

[Lyle]

Yeah. Well, I have a question. Okay. So you have an American phone number, but you sound Australian.

[Stella]

No, I. I'm not Australian. Guess again.

[Lyle]

You're in New Zealand?

[Coralie]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[Stella]

Good guess.

[Lyle]

How. What are you doing in. In America?

[Stella]

I. I came here for college, and now I just, like, live here. Yeah, I've been here for about, like, eight years or so, something like that.

[Lyle]

Eight years. Wow. Holy. How old are you?

[Stella]

How old am I? 26.

[Lyle]

Cool. And do you like America better than New Zealand or does it suck? What do you think?

[Stella]

Okay, so I think about this a lot. Like, there's pros and cons to both. I mean, there's a lot of amazing things about America. Like, it's. It's so big. There's so many things to do. There's so many people. And there's also, like, so many different, like, cultures and, like, vibes and everything, you know, built into one country. And New Zealand is a bit sleepier, but that also is nice, right? Like, if you want to be more relaxed and chill. I guess it just depends on what vibe you want to go on. What. One other thing as well, is most of my memory of New Zealand was from, you know, before I was an adult. So, like, other than going back for, like, you know, a week or a couple weeks or something at a time, I haven't really, like, fully experienced New Zealand as an adult for longer than, like, two weeks.

[Lyle]

That's interesting. Yeah. You have more conscious experience with America than you do with where you grew up.

[Stella]

Yeah. Yeah. No, it's crazy. Like, my. Literally my entire adult life has been in New Zealand, which is kind of crazy to think about. Like. Yeah, Like, I. I feel, like I still feel very Kiwi, and I still have a very strong, like, Kiwi identity, but I also feel. Feel very American in a lot of ways, and my Kiwi friends definitely think that I'm very American.

[Lyle]

What I think, ways do you feel American?

[Stella]

That's a good question. I don't know how to answer that question. Why do I feel American? I think it's just because I. I live in America and I've spent my whole, like, adult life here, and I'm integrating the community. Yeah, I don't know.

[Coralie]

Actually.

[Stella]

Maybe I don't. Maybe I feel 50. 50American in kiwi.

[Lyle]

I feel very American. I feel. I feel it in my bones. Like, I don't. I Don't like other people telling me what to do. I eat a lot. I'm a little gross. But I have strong geopolitical ambitions for myself as an individual. I feel very American.

[Stella]

Do you wish you felt something else?

[Lyle]

No. No, I'm okay with myself as I am in some regards. Let's talk about your life. You have life, things that you wanted to get into. What would some of those things be?

[Stella]

You know, one thing that I don't know how I feel about is a friend. And I recently, ish, like a month or two ago, had like a mini half breakup slash break. And I've been thinking about it, like, off and on here and there, and I feel like I understand how I feel right now at this very moment, but, like, I feel guilty about how I feel.

[Lyle]

Okay. How do you feel about it?

[Coralie]

Yeah.

[Stella]

So what happens? I'm pretty sure she doesn't listen to this podcast, but what happened was. Yeah, it's someone that I've known for, like, a few years, but, like, very well. Like, we were super close friends. You know, we would hang out all the time and everything. Um, but for whatever reason, like, you know, over the past, like, year, ish, I just haven't been feeling as connected with her. And I kind of. Honestly, like, it sounds really mean, and I feel really bad about saying it, but I. I didn't really enjoy spending time. As much time with her as I used to enjoy spending with. So basically we chatted a couple months ago and I asked her if we could just, like, take a. Take a break or, like, you know, spend less time with each other, which I feel very mean about. Yeah, which it sounds like we're dating, right?

[Lyle]

It does totally sounds like you're dating. Yeah, it does sound like you did. I feel like it's. I don't know. I mean, I've. I'm not as expressive with friend breakups. Maybe that's just me. Maybe that's like. Maybe it's a guy thing. But, like, no, I'm just like, I'll just stop responding as much. There's not really much of a conversation to be had. Really?

[Coralie]

Yeah. Okay.

[Stella]

So the thing is, usually that's what I do, and I think that's totally fine. Like, I have had a lot of friendships where not necessarily like, one of us, you know, hates the other person or whatever. But, like, I feel like most relationships and friendships naturally, like, ebb and flow, Right? Like, you'll hang out with someone, like, all the time, and then you're busy or they're busy and you hang out less or whatever. But the special exception to this person is she is like really, really, really, really on top of her shit. So like, she will always check in with you, she will never forget about you. She will remember the tiny details in your life. And because of that, like, I felt like it wasn't possible for me to just do the whole like, message list, you know, here's the thing.

[Lyle]

I know, I know, I know. I know exactly what you're talking about. I know exactly what you're talking about. And this is, this is the unfortunate truth that I think that those kinds of people actually have to accept from their side. She can do all that stuff for you. You don't, you don't have to do any, you don't have to do any of that back if you don't want to. Her doing all that stuff for you is not inherently obligate you to do all those things back for her. You know, you're obligated to no one and nothing in any direction. And your, your obligation and your time and your attention will naturally, intuitively gravitate towards the kinds of people or the specific people that you want it to gravitate towards. You know, you don't have to feel. Just because someone remembers your birthday and you don't remember theirs, you don't have to feel bad. I mean, you, I guess you should remember the birthdays of the people you really care about, but you cannot. But as an adult, this is the thing. This is a fucking just reality. I believe in it. It's not a bad thing, it's not a sad thing. It just is what it is. And I think the more you recognize it, the actually greater your life will be, is that you have just a finite amount of time and energy. As a 26 year old adult, you know, you have a finite amount, you literally have a finite amount of time and energy and you can't just spread it around willy nilly, you know, I mean, you gotta pick the people or the things that take your energy. If you just let your, if you just, if you just let your energy flow in the direction that you feel obligated for it to flow, then you're living in a life you didn't even create for yourself. So it's really nice of this person to remember all these little things about you and remember your birthday and do all that, but that doesn't obligate you anywhere. So I don't even think you have to feel bad about it. So I know this is not, this might not be a Popular point of view, but that's okay. That's, that's like, that's the whole woo woo thing of like, that, you know, you're meant for the people that you're meant for. That's what that means, is like, you're gonna naturally, you're gonna really like spending time with some people and you're gonna not care that much about spending time with other people, and that's okay. And you have a, again, you have a finite amount of energy and a finite amount of relationships I've mentally identified in my brain in all sectors of my life. You know, in a, in a, in a kind of business way, in a, in a, in an interpersonal way, in a familial way, I've identified the people and the relationships that I have that I really care about. And I make time and energy for those. And then everything outside of that circle, I, is, I just surrender. It just has to. And, and, and the cost is that that person, this friend of yours, might be upset with you. And they might be, yeah, they might be upset that you didn't remember their birthday, but you have, you have to be okay with upsetting people. You should have people in your life. Like, here's what people, like, you know, the whole thing of like someone walking around being like, I don't care what people think of me. I don't care about pissing people off. I don't care about what it. Like that. I don't, I don't think that's not, that's not a good idea to apply to everyone and everything, but it's a great idea to apply to kind of most things and most people. You should totally, you should totally have people. You know what I mean? Like, you should totally have a lot, you should totally have people. Doesn't have to be a lot of people. Certainly should not be most people. But you should have certain people in certain relationships where you really don't want to piss them off and you really want to make them happy and you really want to invest yourself in the relationship. And like, you have people in your life who you actually care about whether or not they feel, feel like you care about them. But that should not be most people. And that list should be a handcrafted list. You get what I'm saying?

[Stella]

Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. And I feel like I definitely do agree with it. Like, yeah, you can't be friends with all, whatever, 8 billion people in the world or whatever, but I, I just feel bad because, like, we were such close friends for years. I Know, and it wasn't like, something crazy. It's not like you, oh, she, like, fucked my boyfriend or something, you know, Nothing crazy happened, of course. It was just like, this weird. Like, I can't, I kind of can put my finger in it, but I can't quite put my finger in it. But, like, I just didn't enjoy spending as much time with her, and, and now I'm like, should I reach back out to her?

[Coralie]

I don't know.

[Lyle]

Do you want, do you want to.

[Stella]

I feel, I feel kind of guilty about saying this, but, like, in the two or so months that we haven't been, you know, spending time with each other, I feel pretty all right right now.

[Coralie]

Like.

[Lyle]

No, no, no, no, no. I, I, I don't think it's mean to. I constantly, I don't think I constantly look at the people in my life and the things. I constantly am looking at people in my life and going, would I care if I never, ever saw this person again? And I think about that. I'll think about a person or I'll have an interaction or something, and I'll be like, if I never saw this person ever again, it would, I would be fine. I don't think that's mean. I don't. I will take this hard stance that I don't think that's mean because I have people in my life if I, like, I have best friends and I have family that I deeply care about seeing, you know, and I have people who I love to see again and who I'd be having. But then this is certain people where I just. My gut is like, I would not care if I ever saw that, if I never saw that person ever again. I think that's fine. I think it's okay. I think it leaves more mental energy for you to, like, actually, like, live your fucking life. And also, by the way, we live in a world that's not meant for us in any way, shape, or form. Do you know what I mean? Like, we, like, this is the first time ever where we're expected to be available to everyone all the time. Like, I mean, it's a meme of, like, how it feels to unfollow that person you've been following on Instagram that you met at a party once.

[Coralie]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

Like, I don't think it's. I don't think it's mean. It feels, it kind of feels uncomfortable because it's, like, against the societal expectation that you should always respond to everyone all the time and always be on your whatever. But, like, It's. It's okay. The people, like, the folks that you leave on scene or whatever also, you'll get back to them eventually in. This is like, dude, I really. I don't want to bring gender into this, but I feel like I. I feel like this is a guy thing. Is it? Do you agree with that? Like, I have people who I, like, fucking love. Like, I just. She's like, I just, like, I think they're great people. Our lives just go in different. Whatever. Or maybe we haven't picked up the phone or whatever, and I'll call them after, like, a year of not talking to them or an hour, not even anything like that. Like, five months, whatever, and it's like, nothing, you know?

[Stella]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

Like, people understand that. I'm not.

[Coralie]

Good.

[Lyle]

Yeah, good.

[Stella]

Yeah. No, I feel like I also have some friends that I see like, once a year, but, like, the one time a year I see them, we have, like, a fucking blast, you know?

[Lyle]

Yeah.

[Stella]

Yeah, I agree. I feel like it's really hard, especially with social media. Like, I'm thinking about this person. Like, you know, we're still, like, following each other on, like, Instagram, and it's like, you know, I'm not going to, like, not follow. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, these people that. Yeah, that's true. I think. I think she has me on mute, actually. So she did the work for me.

[Coralie]

Okay.

[Stella]

But, yeah, I. I agree. I feel like it would be nice if, I don't know, we return to monk a little bit more and, you know, I don't need to know about, like, the coffee that all of my, you know, hundreds of people that I'm following on Instagram, like, drink every day. But, like, you know, the one time a year where I do hang out with, like, a couple, I would say, considered, like, close emotionally, but, like, not close, you know, in terms of how often we hang out. But, like, yeah, like, it's always a blast because you have so much to catch up on. And, like, I know. I feel like it's because you only see each other once a year or whatever. It makes it that much more special. Not that I only want to see my friends once a year. I don't know what I'm saying.

[Lyle]

No, I get. Well, I mean, I get what you mean. I mean, do you have. Do you have a best friend? Okay, so I only really know about this friend that you don't like. Do you have friends that you do like?

[Stella]

I do have friends that I do like. They're pretty cool people, I think.

[Lyle]

Do you talk, do you talk to them often?

[Stella]

Yeah, let's see. Okay, so it's really interesting because, like, yeah, some of my friends, I mean, people just have like different communication preferences, I guess. Like one of my closest friends, we live pretty close together and we text relatively often, but not necessarily every day. Maybe every like two days, three days. I have some friends that I would consider, you know, my closest friends. But, you know, we might only ticks like once a week or two. Oh my God. This. Okay, this is like a complete tangent, but this is a super cute thing that a friend started doing with me. And I would recommend everyone do this because it's super cute and very intentional, but because we're both like calendar people and we both considered each other like very close friends, she just set up like a recurring monthly hike with me, which is like the cutest thing ever. And every time I see it in my calendar, I'm like, oh, you know, our hike is coming up in two weeks or something.

[Lyle]

Yeah, that is really cute. I like my friend that. See? Okay, so you have. There we go. You have friends that you like. This person who you hike with. You. You're intentionally making an effort to invest in your relationship with this person because you like being with them.

[Stella]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

So that, so that means that. So that means you are not whatever anti social psychopathic monster you. You're making yourself out to believe you are by not wanting to be in constant communication with this other person. You have the capability of. To feel and connect with other people. But yeah, I think there's something. I really think there's something to directing your focus and directing your energy, you know, out of, out of a genuine desire to do shit. I mean, I mean, life is life and there's a lot of situations where we, we do shit out of obligation. But you know, in the, in the ways in which you can do less out of obligation, I think you should. And friend relationships are one of them and you surrender to it. That's how I feel.

[Stella]

Yeah. So I. I shouldn't talk to her unless I really, like, genuinely feel like I really would like enjoying talking to her.

[Lyle]

What do you think about the answer to that question?

[Stella]

Yeah, I mean, I guess. I guess based on everything that you just said, you would say yes.

[Lyle]

Well, I do. I'm not asking. Well, I'm not asking you what I would say. I mean, what would. I'm being a fucking armchair therapist. But I. Do you. Do you agree with that sentiment?

[Stella]

I think other than we do have a couple, like literally just like two Mutual friends. Two or three mutual friends. Obviously if, you know, we get together due to a mutual friend, that's a different thing. Um, but yeah, I think, I think I agree with you overall. Like right now I just feel compelled to reach out to her because some of my mutual friends recently talked to me about it. And like, I, I feel like, I feel like there's pressure for me to reach out to her because we were friends and we still have mutual friends, but like, yeah, I just feel pressured to reach out to her.

[Lyle]

I mean, you could just reach out to her and lay it on the. Well, I don't know. I don't know how much. I don't know if I, I don't know about the radical honesty type of thing, but. Ah, yeah, do whatever you want. Sorry, I know that this is all.

[Stella]

Yeah, none of this matters, right?

[Lyle]

Well, it only. Well, it matters if you decide it matters. That's what I'm getting at. And if you decide that your relationship with this person matters, if you decide your relationship with this person matters in the context of keeping the peace amongst the mutual friends, that's a legitimate thing. You get what I'm, you get what I'm saying? Like you can decide, like you can decide it matters. Again, what I said you can decide it matters in the con because you want to keep the peace among the mutual friends. You can decide that a relationship matters. You can decide that a relationship matters for reasons other than other than just you like the person.

[Stella]

Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

[Coralie]

Yeah.

[Stella]

And I guess a lot of people do that with, you know, like families and stuff as well.

[Lyle]

Like I was, I was, while I.

[Stella]

Was talking, crazy uncle or whatever.

[Lyle]

Yeah, yeah, while I was talking, I was thinking about that, the family thing. Like sometimes you go to like, like you go, you visit your family cuz it's a mitzvah. You know what I mean? You just like, you do it because it's a good thing to visit my family. Even if you're not having the best time, you just do it. But that's because family is important to you. It's because if you decided it's important to you, but why would you shouldn't have that same energy toward everyone and everything that is in your orbit. But if you decide that keeping the peace that, that you have to maintain this relationship to keep the peace, keeping that piece is important to you, then, then it works.

[Stella]

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

[Lyle]

I know I said I wasn't going to forget your name, but I did. And so.

[Stella]

Oh no, you want to Guess.

[Lyle]

Carrie.

[Stella]

Stella. Pretty, pretty close.

[Lyle]

Stella, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?

[Stella]

If you really want to dye your hair and you're too scared to, you should just do it.

[Coralie]

Bleach and dye your hair.

[Lyle]

Thank you, Stella. Have a good rest of your entire life.

[Stella]

Thanks, Lyle.

[Coralie]

Bye.

[Lyle]

Bye, Stella. So in case anyone was unclear about how to interpret anything I said on that phone call, what I'm meaning to say is that you should cut off all your friends and family. You should not talk to anyone. You should. You should stay at home alone in your room. If your friends reach out to you, you should break your phone in half and you should just. You should never talk to anyone ever. And you should die alone. That's what I Just to clarify what I meant by everything I said. No. I don't know. I think it's important to have relationships stay connected, but that's why there's a billion think pieces about this. But. And I've probably talked about this a bunch. But that's why community is good, because it's like just having a place that you should like the best relationship the best, not the best. But a lot of good relationships come from just the fact that comes from situations where you can just be living your adult life. And by nature of you living your adult life, there are people passing through, you know, like work or showing up to a club or some shit.

[Coralie]

But.

[Lyle]

But that doesn't matter because you shouldn't do any of that. You should just be alone forever and not. Not do anything is what I think.

[Ryder Strong]

This is Ryder Strong and I have a new podcast called the Red Weather.

[Coralie]

It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

[Ryder Strong]

In 1995, my neighbor Anna Trainor disappeared from a commune. It was hard to wrap your head around. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

[Lyle]

So, no, I am not your guru.

[Ryder Strong]

And back then, I lied to my parents, I lied to police, I lied to everybody.

[Lyle]

There were years, Ryder, where I could not say your name.

[Ryder Strong]

I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists, whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

[Lyle]

Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend? They have had this case for 30 years. I'll teach you.

[Coulter]

Sons of you come around here in my white. Boom, boom.

[Ryder Strong]

This is the red weather. Listen to the red weather on the iHeartRadio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

You know Roald Dahl, the writer who thought up Willy Wonka, Matilda, and the bfg. But did you know he was also a spy?

[Stella]

Was this before he wrote his stories? It must have been.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

Our new podcast series, the Secret World of Roald Dahlia is a wild journey through the hidden chapters of his extraordinary, controversial life. His job was literally to seduce the wives of powerful Americans.

[Lyle]

What?

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

And he was really good at it. You probably won't believe it either.

[Stella]

Okay, I don't think that's true.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

I'm telling you, the guy was a spy. Did you know Dahl got cozy with the Roosevelts, played poker with Harry Truman, and had a long affair with a congresswoman? And then he took his talents to Hollywood, where he worked alongside Walt Disney in Alfred Hitchcock before writing a hit James Bond film. How did the Secret Agent wind up as the most successful children's author ever? And what darkness from his covert past seeped into the stories we read as kids? The true story is stranger than anything he ever wrote. Listen to the Secret World of Roald Dahl on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Katie Couric]

As we head into 2026, it's safe to say that 2025 was a year like no other. So much news, so much disruption, and, yes, so much division. That's why we're wrapping up this season of Next Question with a look back at everything that's happened. Things are coming at us with such a velocity, we thought it was important to take a moment, connect the dots, and explore what it all means. We're summing up the first year of Trump's second term with David Graham on Project 2025, and how many of the goals have been implemented. Richard Haass on foreign policy and the changing world. Jessica Valenti on reproductive rights and the terrifying consequences of abortion bans. Tina Brown on the year scandals here and across the pond. The President has upended everything from pardons to the press, so we're covering it all. Listen to next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Coulter]

Hello.

[Lyle]

What's up, brother? What's your name?

[Coulter]

My name's Coulter.

[Lyle]

Coulter. Coulter. I called you because you said, please call me Lyle. I have a secret to share.

[Coulter]

Yeah, I. I have a big secret to share.

[Lyle]

Okay, now, just because I don't. This is making. I'm. I feel like you're gonna. This is gonna be, like, a jokey thing, and it's okay if it is, but I'm. I feel like I'll be a little disappointed if it is. I'm like, I'm. I. You've low key primed me. Like an actual secret.

[Coulter]

It depends on if you want it to be a secret or not.

[Lyle]

If I. If I. If I want it to be secret or not.

[Coulter]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

Yeah, yeah. Why? Why. Why would I. What do you mean? It's your. It's your secret. Why would I. What does my desire of its secret hood have to do with it?

[Coulter]

No, I. I actually didn't have a secret at all. I just.

[Lyle]

You didn't have a secret at all? You didn't even have a joke secret?

[Coulter]

Not even a joke secret? I'm trying so hard to think of a joke. You.

[Lyle]

Colton. I'm too.

[Coulter]

I'm too hot. I'm too high to do that right now.

[Lyle]

God fucking damn it. You didn't even have a joke. You didn't even have a joke secret. I thought you were going to, like, say something cutesy like, I think my cat is gay. Or, I don't know. I thought you were going to say something like.

[Coulter]

That's actually.

[Lyle]

You don't even have any. You don't even literally. What? What were. Okay. And by the way, I took you. By the way I saved you just now because I diverted the conversation away from. What would you have said if I had just said, okay, what's the secret?

[Coulter]

I probably would have said, I think my cat's gay.

[Lyle]

Oh, my God. You don't have any. You don't have a secret. You texted me. You texted me that because. You texted me that because you knew that.

[Coulter]

Oh, I knew, dude. I listened to you every single day on my way to work and on my way home from work. Like, I know you, bro. I know you.

[Lyle]

Kill you, Colton. Do you know you and you know that I. Oh, my God. Where are.

[Coulter]

I know you. I'm. You know, I'm in. I'm in Florida. I'm. I'm in Tampa.

[Lyle]

What are you doing in Tampa?

[Coulter]

I went to school at usf. I have my psychology degree, so maybe that's why I can. I. I know you, Lyle.

[Lyle]

What are you using your psychology degree.

[Coulter]

To do that is undetermined at this point? I. I just graduated, like, four months ago, so I'm still figuring it out. But I'm a photographer right now. What do I want to do? I mean, I've always been interested in down syndrome. Like, I think it's super. Yeah, yeah. No, like, actually, I just think. I don't know I think they're on a different wavelength and I think they're like, can be, they can be so much more genuine and happy than any other person can. And I just find that so interesting.

[Lyle]

But are you trying to, so you wanna, like, do, do a program or something like that where you can work with, with people with down syndrome?

[Coulter]

Yeah, yeah, no, that'd be, that'd be awesome. I'm still, you know, I'm still figuring out. Yeah. Yeah, I think that'd be pretty cool. I've worked with kids with special needs before, so.

[Coralie]

Yeah.

[Coulter]

Dude, I can't believe I'm talking to you.

[Lyle]

If you're joking about that, I'll. If you're joking, are you, that you're being serious?

[Coulter]

No, No.

[Lyle]

I just can't trust you anymore.

[Coulter]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Lyle. I'm sorry.

[Lyle]

I may one day find the strength to forgive you, but that's not today. Okay? All right. So you're so you, so what are you doing now? He's chilling. Are you like, working, are you?

[Coulter]

Yeah, bro, I, I'm, I'm a photographer. I just got off work a little bit ago, but yeah, I'm just chilling. I'm playing Fortnite. I live in an awesome place with my girlfriend. My life's, my life's going pretty well right now, but yeah. What are you doing right now? He's sitting in your chair.

[Lyle]

I'm sitting in a windowless room talking to you.

[Coralie]

Wow.

[Coulter]

Dude, you, I like, dude, go ahead, Go ahead. No, no, I, I, I, I know I said I listen to you every day. I've been listening to you since like 2021, when I was still in high school. And when I was in, I went to Germany for this internship and I listened to you every single day. So I feel like I kind of know you in a way and I didn't know what you look like for the longest time because I feel like you can be like self deprecating at times. And I was like, this guy's got to be like, ugly or something. But dude, you're a cute guy. Like, you're cute, bro. You gotta, you gotta hit the streets. You gotta get the girls, bro.

[Lyle]

You know what, Colton? I had you all wrong. You're actually a great guy. I forgive you for, for tricking me. Your flattery is, has been tremendously effective. Thanks, man. No, I, I appreciate that. I don't know, I feel, I just, I don't feel like I'm at my. I don't look how I want to. Right now, I don't feel like I look opt. I don't look optimally the way that I would like.

[Coulter]

That's okay, though, bro.

[Lyle]

But that's okay. I think that's okay. Yeah, it's. It's not. You know, it is what. It just is what it is. But, no, I appreciate. What. Did you. Did you think I was gonna look like the Fat Bastard from Austin Powers?

[Coralie]

Dude?

[Coulter]

I. I don't know. I just thought you were gonna look like, how they portray, like, Reddit mods, you know? Like, I don't know, but you're like.

[Lyle]

I mean, I'm. I appreciate you saying that. I mean, I. I'm. I could. I. Like, there's a universe where I could look more like that. Yeah.

[Coulter]

Yeah. I mean, I don't think I look like how I'd love to look, you know, Like, I'm overweight. But I. You know, I have a girl and I have a plate. Like, I'm living my life the best I can, but, dude, like, Dude, I'm.

[Lyle]

Literally imagining you as, like. Like a high school football quarterback, like, wearing, like, a leatherman jacket that's genuinely. Like, I'm not. Like, before you even brought up, like, what each other might look like, I was picturing you as that. With, like, a Justin Bieber flow.

[Coulter]

Yeah, bro, that. That's not. That's not it.

[Lyle]

What do you. How do you look? What do you look like? Describe yourself.

[Coulter]

I'm like. I'm, like. I'm taller, which is an advantage. I'm, like, six three.

[Lyle]

Okay, that's what I thought. Yeah. Yeah.

[Coulter]

I'm, like 250 pounds, so I'm, like, a bigger guy, but okay, the height kind of accounts for it in a way, but, bro, I'm like. I'm, like, a nerd. Like, I. I was in band, and, like, I. I graduated from high school with my college degree. I. I'm just. I'm a nerd at heart. But I don't know. Maybe it's the Florida effect of how I sound.

[Lyle]

How. How close do you think Florida is to seceding from the union.

[Coulter]

Dude? Like, how is Florida portrayed? I know. You live in New York, right?

[Lyle]

I do. How's Florida portrayed? I mean, I think you know the answer to that.

[Coulter]

Yeah, I think I do, too. Just, like, Florida, man. Like, alligators and shit, right? Disney World.

[Lyle]

Yeah. Yeah. And then also, I like, just having its own thing going on down there, you know?

[Coulter]

Yeah, yeah, it does. I mean, it's full of people from all over the world. Like, I Work at this restaurant, and I'm a photographer there, and I meet people from, like, everywhere, like South Africa and. I don't know, just everywhere. And it's like everyone just comes to Florida, you know? I mean, I'm sure it's the same way with New York. Like, New York City. Everyone goes there, but.

[Lyle]

And you live in Tampa?

[Coulter]

I do.

[Lyle]

You know what I love about Tampa?

[Coulter]

What do you love about Tampa?

[Lyle]

I love the big flamingo in the airport.

[Coulter]

Oh, what a. What a niche. Little niche. Little thing.

[Lyle]

And there's also a. Am I going to Tampa this year? I don't know, but there's also. I did the Tampa improv twice, and that's located in a place called Wyber, which is a shopping center that just has chickens running around.

[Coulter]

In Tampa?

[Lyle]

Yeah. Oh, wow. You know Wyber, right?

[Coralie]

Yeah.

[Coulter]

Oh, Ybor.

[Coralie]

Ybor.

[Lyle]

Ybor, yeah. Ybor.

[Coulter]

Yeah, bro. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Lyle]

And they have chickens.

[Coulter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lyle]

I.

[Coulter]

That's where I met my girlfriend, actually, in Ybor.

[Lyle]

Really? Is your girlfriend a chicken?

[Coulter]

Yeah, dude. She actually is a chicken. Yeah, I might.

[Lyle]

What is it. What's it like? What's it like to have sex with a chicken?

[Coulter]

Dude, it's. It's something else. Let me tell you. If you're. If you're looking for love, all you need to go. All you need to do is go to the grocery store. The. The skinned ones are better.

[Coralie]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

Yeah.

[Coulter]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

I feel like I have. I feel like having sex with a chicken that's alive is better than one that's.

[Coulter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Lyle]

No, I. You know what's weird? I actually wonder. Would you get more diseases. Would you get more diseases from, like, having sex with a live chicken or, like, rubbing, like, raw chicken all over your. Your dick and ass? I think you'd probably get more diseases from. You'd probably. You. I actually don't know. What do you think? Which one do you think is more diseases?

[Coulter]

Probably the live one only because it's getting, like, run through already, you know, so it's like triple the amount of disease, I guess, maybe.

[Lyle]

How's. How is it getting ran through already?

[Stella]

I mean.

[Coulter]

I mean, if it's a female chicken and it's, like, laying eggs and. And, you know, like, you know, and it's out in the wild and, like, who knows what's out there? So I get. I don't know.

[Lyle]

I don't. Are. How does that work? How do. Yo. How do they make chickens? Because chickens lay eggs. They make a bunch of babies. But then does the male Chicken. The rooster. Hold on, I'm going to. Okay, wait. Coulter.

[Coulter]

Dude, Coulter. Yeah, Coulter. Yeah, yeah.

[Lyle]

Stay. Stay right there for a second.

[Coulter]

Okay, I got you.

[Lyle]

Well, just stay there. Don't move.

[Coulter]

I'm staying right here. I'm actually on the toilet right now. You caught me on the toilet, bro.

[Lyle]

Okay. Chickens mate through a quick. Chickens have sex through a quick non penetrative act.

[Coulter]

Oh, wow.

[Lyle]

Called the colloquial kiss. Where the rooster mounts the hen, balances on her back, and briefly presses his cloaca, a single opening for waste and reproduction, against hers to transfer egg sperm. Wait, hold on. Okay, okay. The rooster performs courtship displays like dancing and offering food before mounting, grabbing the hen's comb or neck feathers for balance and trending his feet. Okay, there's a video of this. Hold on.

[Coulter]

Oh.

[Lyle]

I like how this. YouTube.

[Coulter]

Probably me. Probably me in bed, though.

[Lyle]

I like how YouTube. YouTube does this thing where, like, I click on the video and it. It actually starts at the time code where the chickens are having sex. So YouTube's kind of like, we'll take the best part of it for you.

[Coulter]

Don't you just love the world?

[Lyle]

I. Yeah, I do. I love that.

[Coulter]

You just love technology.

[Lyle]

Oh, wait, is it. It's not showing it, but basically the. I don't think it's a non penetrative. It's a non penetrative act. I think he's. I think he just like. I think he just like. Yeah, yeah. Okay. He presses her clothes. I think it's like a spraying. Right. So if you did have sex with a chicken, I think you would. I believe. I think it's probably possible to have penetrative sex with a chicken. And if you did it, you'd likely be the first person to have sex with that particular.

[Coulter]

Yeah, now that you say that, you're so right. It's.

[Ryder Strong]

This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called the Red Weather.

[Coralie]

It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

[Ryder Strong]

In 1995, my neighbor Anna Trainor disappeared from a commune. It was hard to wrap your head around. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

[Lyle]

So, no, I am not your guru.

[Ryder Strong]

And back then, I lied to my parents, I lied to police, I lied to everybody.

[Lyle]

There were years, Ryder, where I could not say your name.

[Ryder Strong]

I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists, whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

[Lyle]

Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend. They have had this case for 30 years. I'll teach you sons of.

[Coulter]

Come around here with my wife.

[Lyle]

Boom, boom.

[Ryder Strong]

This is the red weather. Listen to the red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

You know Roald Dahl, the writer who thought up Willy Wonka, Matilda, and the bfg. But did you know he was also a spy?

[Stella]

Was this before he wrote his stories?

[Lyle]

It must have been.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

Our new podcast series, the Secret World of Roald Dahl is a wild journey through the hidden chapters of his extraordinary, controversial life. His job was literally to seduce the wives of powerful Americans.

[Lyle]

What?

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

And he was really good at it. You probably won't believe it either.

[Stella]

Okay, I don't think that's true.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

I'm telling you, the guy was a spy. Did you know Dahl got cozy with the Roosevelts, played poker with Harry Truman, and had a long affair with a congresswoman? And then he took his talents to Hollywood, where he worked alongside Walt Disney and Alfred Hitchcock before writing a hit James Bond film. How you do. How did this secret agent wind up as the most successful children's author ever? And what darkness from his covert past seeped into the stories we read as kids? The true story is stranger than anything he ever wrote. Listen to the Secret World of Roald Dahl on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Katie Couric]

As we head into 2026, it's safe to say that 2025 was a year like no other. So much news, so much disruption, and, yes, so much division. That's why we're wrapping up this season of Next Question with a look back at everything that's happened. Things are coming at us with such a velocity, we thought it was important to take a moment, connect the dots, and explore what it all means. We're summing up the first year of Trump's second term with David Graham on Project 2025, and how many of the goals have been implemented. Richard Haass on foreign policy and the changing world order. Jessica Valenti on reproductive rights and the terrifying consequences of abortion bans. Tina Brown on the year scandals here and across the pond. The President has upended everything from pardons to the press, so we're covering it all. Listen to Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Coulter]

Lyle, have you seen a duck penis before?

[Lyle]

No. And you know what? Hold on. I'm gonna do that right now.

[Coulter]

No, now this will blow your mind.

[Lyle]

All right, I'm looking at it. Wait, let's see. Galliford duck penis. They're really tiny.

[Coulter]

They're like. No, they're like. You see like the cork, like, it's. They're huge.

[Lyle]

They're like. Oh, wait, they're like. They're not tiny. Long ducks grow penises to compete with other males. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Yeah, this duck's penis is a full 9 centimeters long. Well, this one's. This one's. This one's 3 centimeters. Whoa. Holy shit.

[Coulter]

I thought they get like massive, like, like feet.

[Lyle]

No, there's not that. No, their duck penises are not that big.

[Coulter]

No, I'm mistaken. Maybe that's a Mandela effect.

[Lyle]

That's a. That's a Mandela effect.

[Coulter]

It low key might be. Yeah, because I remember, like, as a kid, like, like looking up duck penis.

[Lyle]

And it was like huge Mandela effect. Mandela effect is like people not knowing if he's alive or dead, right?

[Coulter]

Yeah, yeah. It's like Baron's King bears and Baron Stein bears.

[Lyle]

He's dead, right?

[Coulter]

Yeah. Oh, oh, he's got to be now. Or I think it was like at the time. When was this? Like, I don't know.

[Lyle]

He died a while. He died a while ago?

[Coulter]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

Dude, what a cool life. Nelson Mandela. I mean, he really. Damn. He died, dude. He was 95 years old when he died. That's such a huge. That's such a, like.

[Coulter]

Dude for a man too.

[Lyle]

Like, dismantle, like dismantling the apartheid of an entire fucking nation and then like doing a bunch of other cool shit and then you know what? He probably has a bunch of. Probably has a wife and kids and stuff like that. Hey, six kids. Holy shit. He had six kids, three wives. Dismantles an apartheid state. Pissed off a bunch of people on the right and the left. He received over 250 honors. Mandela is on. And on his Wikipedia page, it says. It literally says he's one of the best people of all time. Mandela is widely considered one of the greatest figures of the 20th century. Literally on his wi. Imagine on your Wikipedia page, it just says he's one of the greatest guys that's ever lived.

[Coulter]

He went to prison, yet people don't know if he. If he lived or died.

[Lyle]

Yeah, well lived. Well lived or died is. He's dead. Lived or died is like. You've heard 95. You know what I mean? Like, lived or died is like what you say about somebody who like, is like at war or something. Like, it's Kind of pending, you know what I mean? But true, he's not. He. He went as far as you could. No one lives. No one lives, period.

[Coulter]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

You know what I mean?

[Coulter]

Yeah. Lyle, I have a question. What? If you could be in any history in time, like, point in time, when would it be? This past or present? This one. Right now.

[Lyle]

Oh, yeah.

[Coulter]

Really? With all your knowledge as well?

[Lyle]

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

[Coulter]

Wow. Wow.

[Lyle]

Do I have to. Wait, wait, wait. Can I come. Can I just, like, take a peek?

[Coulter]

You have to live for a year. Let's.

[Stella]

Let's.

[Coulter]

Let's say a year.

[Lyle]

Oh, that. No, I'm staying here.

[Coulter]

Really?

[Lyle]

A year? A year? Nah. No, that. I'm staying here. I'll stay here.

[Coulter]

Interesting.

[Lyle]

I mean, you could. I mean, you could go back in time and, like, use the information that you have to, like. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm staying here. No, yeah, absolutely. Because I was gonna say you could, like, because if you went back in time, what. Like, there's the easy one of people being like, oh, you can go back in time, like, use knowledge you have about world events to, like, make money or whatever. But it's like. Well, you can use the knowledge you have about world events to, like. Actually, there's. That I have knowledge of. That I. That was negative. That I could, like, stop.

[Coulter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lyle]

There's no. There's nothing that I. I personally could stop. Like, I can't stop any, like, elections.

[Coulter]

I mean, you could, bro.

[Lyle]

There's no, like, assassinations I can stop. Like, I, like, me, personally, I don't have the.

[Coulter]

Dude, you could. You could stop all of the Holocaust, bro. You could.

[Lyle]

I don't think I could have stopped the Holocaust.

[Coulter]

If you went back. I. I feel like if you went back to, like, when Hitler was a. Like a. A kid or not a kid, but like a teenager or whatever, and he's trying to get an art school, and you got him in the art school. Like, I don't know. That might change everything.

[Lyle]

Yeah, but I don't think I. How. How am I. How. Like, I'm a random guy. I don't have any. I don't know anyone in the 90s.

[Coulter]

If you went there wearing the gecko suit, I think that earns you instant respect.

[Lyle]

It could it. That. That's.

[Coulter]

I think he would follow you into. Into anywhere you'd want to go.

[Lyle]

Also, I can't talk to Hitler. I don't speak German, and I don't have Google Translate at the time. Like, there's just. I, like, I Don't think I could. And then it's like, well, I kill him. It's like, how? I don't, how am I gonna get a gun? Am I really gonna do that? Am I like, true. The logistics, the, the logistics of. Even if you're like a baby, like, I don't have it in me to like, kill a baby. I don't even think, I don't think it's right to kill a baby. Even if, even if, you know, like, if I could go back, like, if I, I think that that's a moral quandary to me because, like, if I go back in time and I just kill, like, contextually, I'm not killing baby Hitler. I'm just kept killing a baby. I think it's so up to be like, well, he's gonna do all this stuff, but. Yeah, but he did, you know, he didn't.

[Coulter]

Yeah, I think we all didn't do.

[Lyle]

Anything, baby, you know?

[Coulter]

Yeah. No, exactly. Yeah. I mean, yeah, what I just said. We all have the same potential. Like, when we're little babies, like, anyone could be anyone, you know?

[Lyle]

I, I don't know if that's true, that we all have the same potential. I, I, I don't know. I mean, there's so much of how your life plays out. Not. Yeah, so not. I don't, I don't know. I'm being needlessly deterministic, but a lot of how your life plays out is based on. I, I think it's fair to say that a lot of how your life plays out is based on, like, who you're like, like where you're born and who your folks are and stuff like that. I think it's fair.

[Coulter]

Yeah, no, that's true. Like you said, you, you say this a lot, that you, you see your dad, you see yourself and your dad, and I've heard you say that before.

[Lyle]

Yeah.

[Coulter]

And when you say that, like, I, I also do. Like, I see my dad and myself, and it's super weird. Like, I'm just, I, And I wonder, like, was. Because I never met my grandpa, but I'm like, was he like this too? Like, is it just was since, but like, since when? Like, is it just, like, go on forever and we're all just like, copies of each other? In a way, it's weird. But I also like the whole nurture versus nature thing. It's like, I think it's nurture and nature because you, like, I see people as like a computer and you're like the motherboard when you're born. And then you get software, like, as you grow, like, based on your environment and, like your parents and stuff. But. Yeah, I don't. What do you. What do you. What do you think about that?

[Lyle]

Sorry, I'm. I'm looking through Nelson Mandel's Wikipedia page right now. He. He literally was like. Like, dude, he just. He, like, dismantle. He just. He, like. He dismantles apartheid, then he fucking. He becomes an elder statesman. He. He declines a presidential term. He literally voluntarily gave someone else power. Like, that's unheard of. And then. And then you know what he did after that? He. Because he was bored. You know what Nelson Mandela does when he's bored? What's your. Colton. You know what Nelson Mandela does when he's bored?

[Coulter]

It's Colt Coulter with an R. Colter.

[Lyle]

Colter. You know what Nelson Mandela does when he's bored?

[Coulter]

What does he do when he's bored?

[Lyle]

He focuses on combating not only poverty, but also AIDS through the charitable Nelson Mandela foundation, founded in 1999. When he was. Yeah, when he finished being the president, he just quit being the president to. To eradicate poverty and AIDS because he was bored.

[Coulter]

Dude, Legend.

[Lyle]

He. He got the Nobel Peace Prize. What else did he do?

[Coulter]

You should. You should get one of his six kids on the show.

[Lyle]

That would be fucking awesome. That would be really. Oh, wait. Okay, his. Okay, all of his children. No. Okay. All right. He actually. Okay, so he has. It says here he has six children, and it says six children, including Magatho, Mackie Zanani, and Zin Dziwa. So only four. And all of their names are highlighted blue, which means they lead to links. They, like. Each of, like, four of his six children also have Wikipedia pages, which means two of his children are just chilling.

[Coulter]

Are you relevant?

[Lyle]

Are.

[Coralie]

Are.

[Lyle]

For a lack of a better word. Yes, around two of Nelson's men. Two of Nelson Mandel's children are, for lack of a better word, not relevant enough. They're. They're not relevant enough to have a Wikipedia page.

[Coulter]

Oh, maybe that'll make it easier to get them on the show than.

[Lyle]

Yeah, that's true. That's true. Maybe. Yeah. They're probably not as busy. Okay. Though. Unfortunately. Passed away. Okay.

[Coulter]

Stab in the heart, bro.

[Lyle]

He passed away. But he was. He wasn't like a little kid. He was 54 is a bummer.

[Coulter]

But yeah, he's like. He's still kind of a little kid.

[Lyle]

Okay. Makazi way. Makazi way is. She's seven. Holy. She's 71.

[Coulter]

Go girl.

[Lyle]

She is. Dude. How old was Nelson Mandela when he had these kids? 50. What? He was. How old is Nelson. How old is Nelson Mandela? 1980. Okay. All right. He had them at, like, a normal age.

[Coulter]

What's a. No, what's a normal age to have kids?

[Lyle]

I don't know. I didn't know if he had, like a. Like, like, you know, late 20s on. I didn't know if he had. I don't know if he had them at, like, when he was, like, you know, like 18 or something like that. All right, so. All right, so one's still alive. Okay. And then Zanani is a South African diplomat. Oh, one of his kids. Yeah. Okay, that's. And then. Okay, then the other one knows also. Zinzi has passed away. She passed. Damn. She passed away kind of recently.

[Coulter]

Rip.

[Lyle]

Oh, she passed away from COVID Oh, damn.

[Coulter]

That's like a. It's like a sign of the times.

[Lyle]

Well, yeah, it was 20.

[Coulter]

It's like a. Damn, that's tough.

[Lyle]

Who's his. Oh, his. Damn. Dude. Damn. Dude. Wait. Oh, okay. His wife is his. His. The woman he was married to at the time is still alive.

[Coulter]

Oh, wow. Holy. How old is she?

[Lyle]

She's 80. 80? Yeah, she's 80.

[Coulter]

Oh, so she was kind of young, huh?

[Lyle]

She was. She seemed to. She was. Okay. He was born in 19. 18. What. What's 45 minus 18? That's one of those really tricky.

[Coulter]

You're right. Yeah.

[Lyle]

What's 45? What's 45 minus 18? 27. Okay, so she was 27 years younger than he was.

[Coulter]

Damn.

[Lyle]

All right, so if we're. If we're talking, you know, age gap, relationships are. Are definitely, you know, they're. They're a touchy subject in. In modern society. But she was 68 years old.

[Coulter]

Okay.

[Lyle]

And he was 90 when he died. I think by the time you're 68, you can go for it. I think it's 60. Yeah. At 68, you can date. Like, there's certain ages where I think it's completely appropriate to date however older you can. And so at 68, I think it's okay to be dating a. A guy in his 90s.

[Coulter]

Yeah, no, for sure. For sure.

[Lyle]

Yeah. Hold this.

[Coulter]

I think it's. I think it's weird when you're, like, 50 and you're dating, like a 19 year old. Like, that's. That's the. That's the line for me.

[Lyle]

Yeah. 50. 50 and 50 and 19 is controversial. 50 and 91. Not as controversial.

[Coulter]

Yeah, no, you're Right, you're right. You're right. Because you're, I mean you're matured at that point.

[Lyle]

Yeah, yeah, I think, I think if you're, I think if you're 50, you should be able to date any age up for sure.

[Coulter]

Agreed.

[Lyle]

Wait, what do you think about. I was gonna say like I was. Never mind. That doesn't even make any sense. I was gonna say what about, what about being like 19, dating a 100 year old?

[Coulter]

Oh, wow. That's, that's at that point.

[Lyle]

That's just who's taking advantage of who in that situation?

[Coulter]

Yeah, no, exactly, I was literally just about to say that.

[Lyle]

Yeah, who's taking advantage of who in that situation? One if you're like, like I'm talking like a hundred. A hundred years old.

[Coulter]

Yeah, no, I think if you're 100 years old, you're getting the benefit of like having a younger spouse, but as the 19 year old you're getting like all the inheritance hopefully or whatever they have. Like, so it's, it's kind of a win win in a way because when.

[Lyle]

You'Re 100, you can't even be actually, you know what hold is Dick Van Dyke. He's. Okay, never mind. Okay, I was going to say at 100 years old, you're not even there, but Dick Van Dyke is pretty sharp.

[Coulter]

How old is Dick Van Dyke?

[Lyle]

100 is. He's 100.

[Coulter]

Wow.

[Lyle]

Wow. How is he, how is he still fucking alive?

[Coulter]

Yeah. How old do you expect yourself to live or how old do you want yourself to live?

[Lyle]

I, I, I, I'd like to do 80.

[Coulter]

Yeah, I'm right there with you.

[Lyle]

Yeah, I think 80 is pretty good. Wait, check this out. Dick Van Dyke. Now we're just hanging out on my Wikipedia. Who gives a. Dick Van dyke. Okay, in 19, okay, so get this, okay. Dick Van Dyke was born in 1925, okay, in 1972. So when he was 47 years old, he had, he'd been struggling with alcoholism for his entire life, checked into a hospital for three, for three weeks to be treated for his alcohol addiction. And now he's sober. So, so he quit. So he quit drinking when he was 48 and now he's living to 100. Okay, look at. He was a heavy smoker for most of his Life. And in January 2013, so when he was damn damned in his late 80s, he, he claimed to have been using Nicorette for the past decade. So I don't, he figures he figures out how to do it, man, I don't know. He's just. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

[Coulter]

He's got those good genes, though.

[Lyle]

Who's got those good genes? Okay, he. His wife is dead. His wife died a long time ago. I don't like the way I said that. That felt, that feels weird. Wait, no, that's. Hold on. Okay, his wife. Hold on. The way I say it was just. Was. No, his wife's alive. That's wrong. I'm wrong. His, one of his, one of his ex wives is dead. But wait, wait, wait. Okay, this cut, this plays, this plays into it. This plays into what we were talking about, okay? Dick Van Dyke, 100 years old. Guess how old his wife is.

[Coulter]

Oh, mid-60s. Let's go like 64.

[Lyle]

54 years old.

[Coulter]

Damn.

[Coralie]

Damn.

[Lyle]

So he, so he's married to a country right there. He's married to a woman half his age. Yeah, more or less.

[Coulter]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

But she's 54, you know, nor most of the time, if you're marrying a woman half your age, people are like, it's a little whatever. But he's 54. 54 years old. It's funny if you look at it, if you look at a picture of them together, it looks a little, it's interesting. But he's. I don't know, he's just full of, he's full of life. He's doing pretty good. A hundred years old. God damn.

[Coulter]

Yeah. I wonder what the secret is. Yeah, I, I don't know, I, I'd be like, I don't know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not ready to die. Of course I'm still young, but like when the time comes, I won't be. Or. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I'll be scared, maybe not, but.

[Lyle]

Yeah, I wonder if he's scared to die. Like, no freaking out.

[Coulter]

I'll be sad. I, I think by that time I'll probably have kids and stuff and it'll just be like, damn, you know, bro, imagine having a.

[Lyle]

Imagine having us. Imagine having a 74 year old son. His son is 74, dude.

[Coulter]

Damn. Wow.

[Lyle]

Imagine you have a. Imagine your son is an old man.

[Coulter]

Yeah, no, I, I can't even imagine that, honestly. Okay, then imagine my son is like a, you know, 30 year old dude.

[Lyle]

Yeah.

[Coulter]

When I'm dying.

[Lyle]

Oh, wait, okay. Do you know the movie don't worry, Darling?

[Coulter]

I do. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty.

[Lyle]

It's popular for all these ons. For this, for this on set. Drama it was written by Dick Van Dyke's kids.

[Coulter]

Really?

[Lyle]

Do you know that?

[Coulter]

I did not know that.

[Lyle]

Dude, who is this Dick Van Dyke guy? He's just doing it. He's just.

[Coulter]

Wow. Who's your favorite person in history? You're talking so much about Dick Van Dyke and Nelson Mandela. It's like history's on your mind right now.

[Lyle]

Who's my favorite person in history?

[Coulter]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

I don't. I don't. I. I don't know if I have one. Do you?

[Coulter]

I don't know. I really like. I like Bill Nye. I think he's pretty cool. I like. I like Neil degrasse Tyson. He's all, oh, no. You know what? Number one answer, favorite person that I can name off the top of my head. Just like, I guess this is just celebrities because I'm like, this is the time I'm living in. But I think John Cena is a genuinely good dude. Like, I don't even watch wrestling or anything.

[Lyle]

Yeah, he seems.

[Coulter]

He seems like a good ass dude. I like his vibe. Do you have a, like a favorite celebrity or something? Like an idol or anything?

[Lyle]

I like, I don't know. I like Norm MacDonald. He's funny. He's. He passed away maybe still. No, I don't. I just said Ben Stiller wanted to say. No, no, I don't. I don't actually. I don't have. I don't have. For Ben Stiller. I just. I just. He's alive. I needed. I just felt. I just felt the need to say something. Coulter.

[Coulter]

Coulter. Yeah.

[Lyle]

Coulter.

[Coulter]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

I'm. I'm so mad that you told me you had a secret.

[Coralie]

Dude.

[Coulter]

I. I didn't know how hard it would be to get on the show.

[Lyle]

And I'm like, apparently it's not that hard. Apparently it's easy. Apparently.

[Coulter]

Dude, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm not. I'm not a liar. I just.

[Lyle]

It's all right.

[Coulter]

I've. I've wanted to talk to you for.

[Lyle]

By the way. By the way, you are you. By the way, you. I don't believe in hardcore labels like liar. But you did lie.

[Coulter]

I did, yeah. Yeah. It was just a little white lie.

[Lyle]

You know, to you. To me it was.

[Coulter]

It was detrimental.

[Lyle]

Yeah. If I really actually know, it's. Well, to me. To me, it took what I thought was going to be like a juicy phone call into 38 minutes of me browsing Wikipedia with you. Basically an entire podcast of me browsing Wikipedia with you. And I don't mind that at All.

[Coulter]

Yeah, no, that's okay. Yeah. I'm just glad to be talking to you right now. It's like, it's. It's wild. It's wild hearing you when I listen to you every day. It's weird, but. Yeah, I think you're really. I, I, I, I see myself a lot in you, in a way. It's weird, but I think. I think if we. If we knew each other, we'd be friends. I, I, I think that to myself.

[Lyle]

Hey, Coulter. Yeah? We. We can be friends right now.

[Coulter]

Dude. That's. That's amazing. I love.

[Coralie]

That.

[Lyle]

Is.

[Coulter]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

Is there. Is there anything else you want to say to the people of the computer before we go?

[Coulter]

Live your life to the fullest, guys. And just remember that love is everything.

[Lyle]

Hey, Geck. Bless you, Colter.

[Coulter]

Geck. Bless you, Lyle. I love you.

[Lyle]

Have a good night.

[Coulter]

Talk to you later. All right. See you, man.

[Lyle]

Love you, too. Love you, too, Coulter.

[Coralie]

Aw.

[Lyle]

So much.

[Coulter]

I love you so sweet.

[Lyle]

I love you so. Dude, I love you so much, Coulter.

[Coulter]

Oh, my God, dude.

[Lyle]

So fucking much.

[Coulter]

Dude, I. I love you more than any.

[Lyle]

I love you forever. I love you more than any chicken or civil rights leader on the planet Earth, Coulter.

[Coulter]

Dude, that's so sweet. You need to make a. You need to make a show, Lyle. Like a TV show. You need to get on that.

[Lyle]

Anything else?

[Coulter]

Yeah, no, that's it. Oh, are you coming to Tampa this year?

[Lyle]

I don't know.

[Coulter]

That's the last thing.

[Lyle]

I don't know. I can't tell you.

[Coulter]

You should.

[Lyle]

I might.

[Coulter]

For me.

[Coralie]

Okay.

[Coulter]

All right, Lyle. Well, I love you again. And I'll. I'll listen to you. And tomorrow morning when I'm on my way to work.

[Lyle]

Sweet. I look forward to being there vicariously through my digital self.

[Coulter]

Thanks, Lyle. It's great talking to you, man.

[Lyle]

Good talking, man. You take care. That was Coulter. I hope you guys enjoyed listening to that. I got lost in it. I enjoyed. Make. I enjoy. I got lost in it. That was fun for me. I like looking at Wikipedia. I like looking at stuff. I liked. Coulter, I hope you enjoyed it, but if you didn't, at least one person did, and that person is me.

[Ryder Strong]

This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called the red weather. In 1995, my neighbor Anna Trainor disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

[Lyle]

So, no, I am not your guru back then.

[Ryder Strong]

I lied to everybody.

[Lyle]

They have had this case for 30 years.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth. Listen, to the red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

You know Roald Dahl, he thought up Willy Wonka in the bfg. But did you know he was a spy? In the new podcast, the Secret World of Roald Dahl, I'll tell you that story and much, much more.

[Lyle]

What?

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

You probably won't believe it either.

[Stella]

Was this before he wrote his stories? It must have been. Okay, I don't think that's true.

[Roald Dahl Podcast Host]

I'm telling you, the guy was a spy. Listen to the Secret World of Roald Dahl on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Lyle]

All right, son, time to put out this campfire. Dad, we learned about this in school. Oh, did you now? Okay, what's first?

[Stella]

Smokey Bear said to first drown it.

[NHTSA/Ad Council Announcer]

With a bucket of water, then stir it with a shovel.

[Coulter]

Wow, you sound just like him.

[NHTSA/Ad Council Announcer]

Then he said, if it's still warm, then do it again.

[Lyle]

Where can I learn all this?

[NHTSA/Ad Council Announcer]

It's all on smokeybear.com with other wildfire prevention tips, because only you can prevent wildfires.

[Lyle]

Brought to you by the USDA Forest Service, your state forester, and the AD Council.

[Michelle Williams]

You know, we always say new Year, new me, but real change starts on the inside. It starts with giving your mind and your spirit the same attention you give your goals. Hey, everybody, it's Michelle Williams, host of Checking in on the Black Effect Podcast Network. And on my podcast, we talk mental health, healing, growth, and everything you need to step into your next season whole and empowered New Year. Real you listen to Checking in with Michelle Williams from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.

[Lyle]

Guaranteed Human.