“WE’RE HAVING TROUBLE IN THE BEDROOM”

Summary

Therapy Gecko — “WE’RE HAVING TROUBLE IN THE BEDROOM”

iHeartPodcasts | October 26, 2025 | Host: Lyle (The Therapy Gecko)

---

Episode Overview

In this episode, Lyle (aka Therapy Gecko) dons his signature gecko persona to field calls from strangers about their personal dilemmas. The episode touches on issues with intimacy in long-term relationships, adult children dealing with their parents’ divorce, the challenges of starting over, social isolation, and embracing life's imperfections—often with Lyle's unique blend of deadpan humor and sincere empathy. The show's tone bounces between light-hearted banter and deeper reflections on emotional growth, adulthood, and personal responsibility.

---

Main Callers and Discussion Points

1. Lizard — Bedroom Troubles in a Long-Term Relationship

[02:08 – 13:45]

Background

• Lizard (25) has been with her boyfriend (26) for eight years; she is his first serious girlfriend.
• She struggles with how to rekindle their sex life and communicate her needs without making her boyfriend feel criticized or inauthentic.

Key Discussion Points

• Lizard feels things have “lost their luster” and wishes her boyfriend would intuit and authentically respond to her needs.
• She feels he doesn’t learn from instruction and instead, when he tries, it feels performative and forced.
• Lyle pushes Lizard to be more direct and honest about her desires. He suggests the issue is about finding authentic desire, not just following instructions.

Notable Quotes

• Lyle [07:48]: “You guys have been together for eight years. You can say to him, ‘Hey, I want you to do this.’”
• Lizard [10:01]: “…when he does it, it’s almost like you can tell he wants his performance to be positively reviewed, and then it feels fake.”
• Lyle [11:12]: “You gotta, you gotta kind of tell him that… don’t pretend to be a character or something or put on a performance that you think I want. I want you to look within… and authentically desire this.”

Insights

• Eight years together brings intimacy but also the risk of stagnation.
• True connection in intimacy requires authenticity, not just performing what one thinks the partner wants.
• Communication—clear, non-judgmental, and honest—is vital, especially in long relationships.

---

2. Julian — Navigating Parental Divorce as an Adult

[14:30 – 47:10]

Background

• Julian (23) is coping with his parents’ divorce after 27 years, prompted by his mother’s infidelity.
• He’s estranged from his mother, close to his father, and trying to help his family adjust.

Key Discussion Points

• Julian describes his father's transformation: after a period of depression, his dad returned to social life, dating and clubbing.
• Julian helped encourage his dad to get out and move forward.
• The family dynamic: Julian has two brothers (one is getting into trouble in the local music scene), and a four-year-old daughter himself.
• Dilemmas with meeting his dad’s new girlfriend and her children—navigating a blended family as an adult.
• Reflection on being the “man of the family” and managing responsibility at a young age.

Notable Quotes

• Lyle [32:10]: “You strike me as a… real man. You’re like the eldest… you’re like the point person of the family… taking care of your kid, trying to help your brothers, you’re getting your dad out at the club being less depressed.”
• Julian [39:19]: “She [dad’s new girlfriend] has kids as well… her kids had told my dad, if it’s something serious you want… when are we gonna meet your kids? But I’m kind of nervous about that.”
• Lyle [44:43]: “The idea that somebody who’s not blood related to you can be family was foreign to me for my entire childhood and adolescence.”

Insights

• Divorce can be destabilizing even for adult children, forcing reevaluation of family and loyalty.
• New family structures bring discomfort, especially for those used to a certain family configuration.
• There’s value in encouraging loved ones to heal and move on, and also in embracing new forms of family.

---

3. Alexis — Returning Home, Social Isolation & Journaling

[52:00 – 78:46]

Background

• Alexis (27) returns home after a period away, following a breakup and health struggles. She struggles with social isolation and career uncertainty.
• Shares that 90% of her social interaction is through listening to Therapy Gecko’s show.
• Discloses mental health and eating issues, and the comfort found in routine.

Key Discussion Points

• Alexis is in a transitional stage: living at home, working a simple job, feeling disconnected from peers, facing pressure to establish a future path (nursing school).
• Discusses difficulties in making friends as an adult, and how moving disrupted her support network.
• Shares experiences with therapy, family life, introspection through journaling, and the cyclical nature of personal growth.

Notable Quotes

• Lyle [54:55]: “Thank you for listening… but I do need to inform you that this doesn’t really count as social interaction.”
• Alexis [77:02]: “Her drawing was just of a big spiral… life is like this, right? You start in the middle, and every time you go around the circle, you might end up back in the same place, but you’re looking at it from a different perspective.”
• Lyle [77:10]: “I hate that I’m gonna think about that every day for the rest of my life.”

Insights

• Social isolation is common, especially for those experiencing transitions or mental health struggles.
• Personal journals often reveal that while circumstances change, core traits or struggles repeat—personal growth can feel like spiraling rather than linear progress.
• Support systems are essential, and even podcasts can offer a sense of community, but real connection begins with reaching out.

---

4. Julian — Living With Mice (and Life’s Imperfections)

[81:55 – 87:20]

Background

• Julian (possible same as prior or a new caller) moved into a new place plagued by mice and seeks advice—part practical, part existential.

Key Discussion Points

• Lyle questions the caller’s need to “fix” the mouse problem, suggesting embracing imperfection.
• The conversation becomes a metaphor for accepting life’s messiness when some things are out of our control.

Notable Quotes

• Lyle [85:51]: “That’s life, right? We would like for there to not be mouse poop in our house… Sometimes there just is mouse poop.”
• Lyle [86:07]: “Sometimes life is about learning to deal with the mouse poop in your house.”

Insights

• Not every problem demands a solution; some circumstances must simply be accepted or endured.
• A humorous take on life’s inevitabilities—sometimes, as in the Japanese phrase “shoganai,” you just have to accept what is.

---

Memorable Moments & Reflections

• Lyle’s gentle but direct advice to “Lizard” on intimacy: being authentic beats performative effort in relationships. ([11:12])
• Julian’s pride in supporting his dad's post-divorce happiness, and his open talk about adult family roles.
• Alexis’ metaphor of life as a spiral, not a circle—a powerful reframing of recurring challenges. ([77:02])
• Lyle empathizing and self-reflecting alongside his callers, especially regarding family, adulthood, and the limits of self-improvement.
• The mouse saga—turning a mundane household nuisance into a philosophical lesson about acceptance. ([86:07])

---

Standout Quotes with Timestamps

• “You want him to just like fucking, you know, want it, you know?”
  — Lyle to Lizard, on sexual authenticity ([11:12])

• “You strike me as a... real man. You’re like the guy of the family... taking care of your kid, trying to help your brothers, getting your dad out at the club.”
  — Lyle to Julian ([32:10])

• “Life is like this... You start in the middle, and every time you go around the circle, you might end up back in the same place, but you’re looking at it from a different perspective.”
  — Alexis, recounting a group therapy insight on the spiral of growth ([77:02])

• “Sometimes life is about learning to deal with the mouse poop in your house.”
  — Lyle ([86:07])

---

Episode Structure and Navigation

• [02:08] – Lizard’s call: sexual stagnation, communication, long-term relationships.
• [14:30] – Julian: adult child navigating parental divorce and blended families.
• [52:00] – Alexis: returning home, isolation, self-examination, family dynamics.
• [81:55] – Julian: living with mice, acceptance of imperfection.

---

Tone & Takeaways

The episode is a quintessential blend of Therapy Gecko’s comic honesty and philosophical warmth. Through each call, universal themes come through:

• Authentic communication and self-knowledge (in love, sex, and family)
• The evolving nature of adulthood and responsibility
• The struggle to find community and meaning, especially after loss or disruption
• Acceptance of imperfection—whether in ourselves, our families, or our homes

As always, Lyle’s playful yet grounded style offers both comfort and challenge, encouraging listeners to keep moving forward—even if just spiraling outward, one cycle at a time.

Transcript

[Alexis]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway this fall, take care of the little ones in the family with Baby Club Savings now through November 4th. Spend $25 on select Baby Club products and save $5. Shop for items like Pediasure bottles, Pedialyte powder packs, Huggies baby wipes, Huggies diapers, Gerber puffs and Gerber pouches. And save $5 when you buy $25 or more on participating products offer ends November 4th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[Julian]

Mint is still $15 a month for premium wireless, and if you haven't made the switch yet, here are 15 reasons.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Why you should 1.

[Julian]

It's $15 a month.

[Lyle]

2.

[Julian]

Seriously, it's $15 a month. 3. No big contracts.

[Lyle]

4.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I use it. 5.

[Julian]

My mom uses it.

[Lyle]

Are you.

[Julian]

Are you playing me off? That's what's happening, right?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay, give it a [e-mail] Switch upfront.

[Ad Voice]

Payment of $45 $15 per month equivalent required New customer offer first three months only, then full price plan options available, taxes and fees extra. See mint mobile.com.

[Julian]

If you're waiting for your AI to turn into ROI and wondering how long you have to wait, maybe you need to do more than wait. Any business can use AI. IBM helps you use AI to change how you do business. Lets create smarter business IBM.

[Ad Voice]

This message comes from Greenlight. Ready to start talking to your kids about financial literacy? Meet Greenlight, the debit card and money app that teaches kids and teens how to earn, save, spend wisely and invest with your guardrails in place. With Greenlight, you can send money to kids quickly, set up chores automate allowance and keep an eye on what your kids are spending with with real time notifications. Join millions of parents and kids building healthy financial habits together on Greenlight. Get started risk [e-mail] iheart call from Lizard hello.

[Lizard]

Hello.

[Lyle]

How's it going?

[Lizard]

Good. You know, I mean, you know, I mean it's. It's all right.

[Lyle]

What did you say your name was? If. If you said a name.

[Alexis]

You can.

[Lizard]

Just call me Lizard.

[Lyle]

Lizard brings you what brings you on the phone lines today, Lizard?

[Lizard]

I've got like two things. So like it kind of depends for sure what. Like I'm trying to figure out the vibe but also what I really want to talk about. So.

[Lyle]

Just get. Honestly, I'd rather use. Tell me what you really want to talk about.

[Lizard]

Okay. Okay, cool. So I have a boyfriend and it is it is in. It's. I've been with him a while now. I've been with him a while now, and I don't. There's, you know, there's certain things within a relationship that I feel like, you know, loses its luster over time, and it just. It's hard to. To discuss that, I guess, you know, and. Yeah.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Can you.

[Lyle]

Can you tell me more?

[Lizard]

Just, like, I. I think I'm his first real girlfriend, so he is, you know, learning, of course, but there are some things that you. You. You can't really, like, learn by telling, and I feel like I don't know how to help him.

[Lyle]

Okay.

[Alexis]

Like.

[Lizard]

Like, you're. You're so close, dude. You're so close. You almost got it, but it just.

[Alexis]

It doesn't.

[Lyle]

All right. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. How. How old are you guys?

[Lizard]

I'm 25. He's 26.

[Lyle]

Okay. And you're his first real girlfriend. And how long have you guys been together?

[Lizard]

For like, eight years now.

[Lyle]

You've been eight years. Holy shit. Okay, so he's. Well, of course. You're his first real girlfriend. You guys have been together for eight years?

[Alexis]

For sure. For sure.

[Lyle]

Okay. And you're saying that things have lost their luster over eight years, and you want him to do things, but you don't want to have to tell him to do them?

[Lizard]

Well, it's not that I don't. I feel like I do tell him, but, like, he. I don't know. Man needs to, like, watch something or, like, may. I don't know. I'm like, at this point, like, maybe you need to, like, hook up with another girl and, like, I don't know, try things out.

[Lyle]

Okay. Are all of. Are all of the. Are all of or most of these issues sexual, or are they other types of things?

[Lizard]

No, I. I think it's. I think it's just that because he's a great overall great guy, like, I just don't know how to, like. I don't know how to help him out, you know? Like, I'm trying to give him. But it's just, like, it's. It's been hard for me, I guess. You know, in a way, I'm like. Like, dang. Because I've, you know, I've had. I've had a couple boyfriends, so, like, I. I know my way around, but.

[Lyle]

Well, I mean, I don't know, man. You haven't had a couple boyfriends in. Hopefully. You haven't had a couple boyfriends in eight years?

[Lizard]

No, no, no. But I'm just saying, like, I've, you know, had relationships before and feel like I've learned my way and he hasn't had that type of experience. So I'm like, how do I help you? Help me? You know?

[Lyle]

Sure, but you were. I mean, listen, here's. You were what, 17 when you had these other boyfriends. And I assume these other boyfriends were also in high school. So I, I don't know if you've. I don't. I don't know if you've exactly run the gamut of, you know, sexual experience at that time, but that's not, but that's, that's. That's not important, actually. I. To go back to the present. You want him, okay, so this is all mainly sexual. This isn't like, I need him to hold the door open for me and he's not doing it type of thing.

[Lizard]

Yeah, no, you've got that on lockdown. I'm just trying to help him out, you know.

[Lyle]

Okay, well, listen.

[Lizard]

Oh, man, I'm not doing enough or like, I'm not helping out enough. And I'm like, bro, you're great.

[Lyle]

Yeah, but, but he's, he's not doing enough. What do you want?

[Lizard]

I just want him to like, I don't know, I guess do not research, but like, you know, like, be like, oh, okay, she likes these things, you know, like, let me like, like figure out like, what is. What is. What do you do when you're in this situation? Your girl likes this. Like, you know, like, how do I work with her on this? But he's, he's just like, ah, I don't know, you know.

[Lyle]

Oh, yeah, but okay, so here's both of you guys are being like, vague, you know, Cuz if. Cause you're over here and you're like, I don't want to have to tell him this thing, but I don't even think. I don't even know if you know what you don't know that you want to tell him?

[Lizard]

No, it's not that I do. I just don't know how to like, tell him in a way or like, show him in a way that he's like, oh, like, this isn't like her giving me criticism. This is her, like, showing me, oh, she likes this. This is the way she likes that, you know.

[Lyle]

What did you say? Lizard. Lizard. You guys have been together for eight years. You can say to him, hey, I want you to do this. I want you to, you know, whatever the fucking thing is, you could just say to him that you want him to do it. You know, you guys have been together for eight fucking years. I mean, what is. What, you know, if this was a guy. If this was a guy that you were just getting to know, and you didn't want to make him think that you didn't like him or whatever, Honestly, even if it was a guy you were just getting to know, it's like, do you gotta fucking tell the guy? You know?

[Lizard]

Yeah, no, I mean, I have. He just doesn't know how to. I don't know if that makes sense.

[Alexis]

Like.

[Lizard]

Like. I don't know. Do I? I don't know. I just. I don't want to, like, be like, hey, I've told you this. And you're. It's not really, like, matching up, like, to what?

[Lyle]

Okay, let's get. If. If you're okay with it. If we can get a little bit more specific. What are you trying to get. Are you trying to get hit? Like, does he just not have the equipment to do or the stamina to do what you want him to do? Is this less about knowledge and more about hardware?

[Lizard]

No, no, it's not hardware at all. That's the crazy part.

[Lyle]

What is it? What is it about?

[Lizard]

It's just like, I think, like, I don't know. Like, how do I explain this? I tell him what I like, maybe, like, being a little less gentle, of course.

[Alexis]

And then.

[Lizard]

And then it becomes like. Like a per. Maybe like a performance a little bit. And I'm like, whoa, slow down. This is. That's a little. That's a lot. That's.

[Lyle]

All right. So for example. So, for example, you want, like. For example, right? You. I. I assume you want him to, like, take control of the situation more. But then when he does it, it's almost like you can tell that he's doing it in such a way that he wants his performance to be positively reviewed, and then it feels fake.

[Lizard]

Exactly.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

Okay. Yes. Okay. That's what I figured out.

[Lizard]

How do I find a nice way to be like, hey, I can tell.

[Lyle]

Just tell him. Just. Yeah, just tell him. Just be like, listen, listen, here's the thing. This is. This is like an acting exercise almost what you're trying to get this guy to do. You're, like, being. You're like a director in this sense. Yeah.

[Lizard]

It's like you're putting on a play right now. James Gunn is. He's. He's directing. I got it. Okay.

[Lyle]

Yeah. So here's your. Here's the thing. And what this guy is doing is he's putting on a thing instead of. He's got a look within himself and find. Find like his, his like dominant sexual energy. And then you give him permission to do that and bring it out. And I don't know if he feels like you've given him the permission to go within himself and find that and like authentically bring it out. And so instead what he's doing is like putting on a performance of what you think he wants when you want him to just like fucking, you know, want it, you know?

[Lizard]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

So you gotta, so just tell. So you gotta tell them. You gotta be like, listen, listen, you're a fucking guy. You find me attractive. You have some form of dominant sexual energy within you. Go fucking find that shit and bring it to me. Don't pretend to be a character or something or put on a performance that you think I want. I want you to look with it. I want you to authentically desire this and find it in yourself, you know? So you gotta, you gotta kind of tell them that.

[Lizard]

Therapy Gecko. This is, this is why. It's literally like the simplest, dumbest thing. But hey, I appreciate it.

[Lyle]

Yeah, for sure. Is he. If you did. If you please bring him on the phone sometime. I want to hear this from his perspective because I feel like. Because I'm actually, I'm curious about it because I don't like, maybe this is. Have you. Like, like when I'm curious about this. Right. Because the thing of like he wants. There's like an authentic thing within him that he's got to find and bring out. Like, have you. When you first brought this up to him, how did it make him feel? Because maybe it is possible that he's putting on this performance because he doesn't have some authentic thing within him that wants to be more dominant. Which is okay, but that could just be the nature of who he is. I don't know. Because I don't know this guy. Like, how did he. Yeah, how did he respond to this?

[Lizard]

A little bit defensively. He just was upset that like, you know, he, he was like, dang. Like I wanted, you know, I wanted to like make it great. And I'm like, no, it is, but it's just there's like, you know, like some things that could be fine tuned. He just. He gets. He beats himself up about it.

[Lyle]

Yeah, he's got to not do that. I mean, that's his problem.

[Alexis]

Right?

[Lyle]

But you know, coach him, Coach him the best you can. But yeah, he's gotta find it within himself.

[Lizard]

Got it. I'm hanging in there. I got it, Coach.

[Lyle]

Is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?

[Lizard]

Just have a great day or night.

[Alexis]

That's all you do.

[Lizard]

You too.

[Alexis]

You too, Gek.

[Lyle]

Bye, Lizard.

[Alexis]

Bye.

[Lyle]

This is my. This is my first entry into doing, like, couples sex therapy with a guy in a gecko costume. I do believe that, though. Yeah. Like, if there's no, like, if off, if no if, like an authentic desire from his side isn't there, she'll be able to tell. People can always fucking tell if you're playing pretend in some way. Yeah. Whether you're like, acting or you're like, doing. But yeah, doing anything. I think people can always tell.

[Julian]

Hello?

[Lyle]

What's up, man?

[Julian]

Oh, my God, dude. Am I really on the phone call with the gecko?

[Lyle]

Oh, yeah. What's your name, brother?

[Julian]

Oh, dude, my name is Julian, bro. Nice to meet you, man.

[Lyle]

Nice to meet you too, Julian. You got a good vibe to you.

[Julian]

Oh, dude, man, I almost. I did. I'm nervous. Hold on.

[Lyle]

Nah, don't be. This will be. This is low stakes, brother. Don't worry.

[Julian]

Did I. I've been listening to your show for three years now, man. I. I watch it every day while I'm at work, dude. I. I wait every. Every week for you to drop a new episode, man.

[Lyle]

Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. Thank you, man. I appreciate that.

[Julian]

Hell yeah. Hell yeah, dude.

[Lyle]

Well, listen, listen, Julian, get into you. Let's. Let's. Let's hear what's going on in your life.

[Julian]

Nothing much, man. Well, my parents just split up too, so that's one thing that's going on.

[Lyle]

How long were they together for?

[Julian]

Oh, man, they've been together for like 27 years, I believe.

[Lyle]

Whoa. Interesting.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

And what was it that caused them to split up?

[Julian]

Oh, well, my mom cheated on my dad, so that was kind of a big reason. Yeah. Yeah, man. I'm sorry, dude. I'm kind of nervous, bro.

[Lyle]

No, no, don't be, man. We're just. We're just chatting. Um. You've nothing to be sorry for at all. How. How old are you?

[Julian]

I'm 23, man.

[Lyle]

23. So. And your parents are just now getting divorced.

[Julian]

They just did it in February.

[Lyle]

Okay. So, like, I don't know, it's interesting because, like, a.23,22. You kind of have, you know, you're an adult, you got your own shit going on. So it's like, I feel like my parents got divorced when I was. God damn. Maybe, like, I must have been younger than 10? Yeah, I must have been younger than 10. So like, I'm very heavily involved in the situation at that age. Right. So what, what was your level of involvement as an adult with this happening in terms of like.

[Julian]

Well, yeah, it was, it was pretty bad, to be honest. I, I, well, not pretty bad. I, I used to go there all the time, you know, visit my parents, take my daughter there with them, get, let her know her grandparents and stuff, you know, so. But I mean, as an adult now, man, you know, I don't support cheating or nothing. If you're not happy, just leave. So like me, I haven't talked to my mom since that whole thing happened, so. Yeah, I haven't really much heard, haven't really heard much about her, so.

[Lyle]

Really? You haven't talked to your mom since this went down?

[Julian]

No sir, I haven't. She's been, she's been mia.

[Lyle]

What was your relationship like with her before this?

[Julian]

It was, it was decent, you know, pretty good, I believe. But she never really said nothing about her having a boyfriend or nothing. So that was kind of, kind of weird when I first found out.

[Lyle]

Yeah. So this is the main thing that kind of broke your guys relationship. Like it wasn't, it wasn't sort of fractured a bit beforehand?

[Julian]

No, it wasn't. That was kind of what broke the camel's back right there.

[Lyle]

What's your relationship like with your dad?

[Julian]

Oh, man, I talk to that guy every day, dude, every chance I could. I'll talk to him.

[Lyle]

How's he doing?

[Julian]

He's doing pretty good, man. He's still has problems with it here and there, you know, he'll call me sometimes to talk about it, but he's seems to be taking it all right.

[Lyle]

And how old is he?

[Julian]

He is 46.

[Lyle]

46, yeah. Both of you guys had kids? Fairly young it sounds.

[Julian]

Yeah, Yeah, I had my daughter at 17, man.

[Lyle]

Whoa. Okay.

[Julian]

Yeah, Pretty young, huh?

[Lyle]

Yeah, I got questions for you about that later, but I'm. Yeah, yeah, it's cool that you're so close with your dad. So is he like dating now? What's he doing?

[Julian]

Yeah, man, he is dating. So check it out, dude. He recently, just not recently, maybe like two months ago, started talking to this lady. He talks with her every day, hangs out with her, you know, and she has kids as well, so she, he met her kids already. But her kids had told my dad, if it's a, something serious that you want with our mother, you know, when are we going to meet your kids? But I'm kind of nervous about that. Because it's a whole weird situation, you know, My parents have been together since I was born, and it's like a whole new experience for me.

[Lyle]

Oh, to start having, like, step siblings.

[Julian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lyle]

Interesting.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

Cause I have four stepsisters, but I got to know all of them again when I was fairly young, so they've just always been there. It was not like a new thing, you know? Yeah. How did your dad meet this lady?

[Julian]

Just partying, dude. Just partying, man.

[Lyle]

Party. Yeah.

[Julian]

Kind of started living his bachelor. Yeah, his bachelor life.

[Lyle]

Wait, tell me. Hold on. I got. Okay, now I have. All right, we're talking for a while. What's your name again?

[Julian]

Julian, man. Julian. You can call me whatever you want.

[Lyle]

Okay, I got you. Yeah, I'm bad with names, but we're gonna be talking for a while. Lots of questions. So he's partying. So actually, I, you know, I. On a personal level, I'm curious about this because, you know, I love being out and about and running around doing things, being, you know, out of my house. Like, I don't. I don't know if I could ever live, like, a fucking depressed life or something. Yeah. Like a boring, like, suburban life. I don't think I could ever, ever do that. But I'm. I get a little worried because I'm like, well, I'm 27. I'm. I want to have kids someday. I want to do this and that. The other thing. But Your dad is 46. He's got a. Yeah, I mean, I guess. I guess divorced and already raised a son to the age of 22 is pretty good. What is hit? What is him partying look like? Where does he go? What does he do?

[Julian]

Oh, so I'm from California, man. So there's a bunch of nightclubs around from where I'm from, and he goes there. Dude hangs out on the weekends. He works throughout the week, which is good, you know, and, like, Friday, Saturday and Sunday, he'll be out hanging out with his new girlfriend or just by himself.

[Lyle]

What does he do for work?

[Julian]

He works in the fields right now.

[Lyle]

The fields?

[Julian]

Yeah. The. The. Great. He picks grapes, bro.

[Lyle]

Your dad picks grapes during the day and then goes to the nightclub at night?

[Julian]

Yes, sir. That's how my old man is.

[Lyle]

Dude, that sounds awesome.

[Julian]

Oh, man, he's cool, man. I love him.

[Lyle]

That's so cool. Oh, man. So what's he like? Did he just go out by himself, like, to. Can I ask what, like, what city in California you guys in?

[Julian]

Porterville, man.

[Lyle]

Porterville is that with an H or.

[Julian]

It'S P. P, T. Porterville.

[Lyle]

Oh, Polderville.

[Julian]

Porter.

[Lyle]

Porter. Porterville. Okay, I'm way off.

[Julian]

Yes. Yeah, it's a, it's a. An hour away from Bakersfield and three hours away from la.

[Lyle]

What are the nightclubs like in Porterville?

[Julian]

It's just all the old people, man. That's why I love going. You know, the younger generation, they hit up the casino here in Porterville, but the nightclubs are more like older people, you know, trying to look out, find a new partner.

[Lyle]

Cool, bro. Yeah, I don't know if anyone. Listen, if anyone deserved to be 46 years old at the nightclub, it is your fucking dad. You know, I think that's a. Because I think that's a good rule of thumb, cuz your dad, you're 22, so your dad had. Yeah. So when Your dad was 24, I mean, I don't know what, I don't know what his shit was like, you know, at that time, but when your dad's 24, he's. He's not partying because he's taking care. Maybe he was, I don't know. But maybe, maybe your dad can work hard, play hard like that, but I assume he's not partying as much. Yeah, taking care of you and you know, picking fucking grapes during the day. I don't know how long that career was, but to now, you know, his fucking wife cheated on him, he's got a grown son, he works, you know, and if anyone deserved to be partying it up at 46, it's your dad.

[Julian]

Yeah, man, I encouraged it too, man. Once I, I found out he was kind of like sitting at home, you know, just depressed, not, not doing nothing, barely wants to talk. I was like, hey man, come on, let's go, I'll take you out somewhere. Took him out. He loved it. Ever since then, he doesn't even need me.

[Lyle]

No. So you got your dad into running around partying?

[Julian]

Yeah, well, me and my wife did. We, we, we felt kind of bad because we would talk to him, you know, and he sounded depressed. So we're like, hey, come on, let's go, let's go off somewhere.

[Lyle]

So cool. And what was his life like? Like what, like, what was his like day to day life like before all this?

[Julian]

Man, he'd just come home, play with me and my brothers, you know, that was about it. Every once in a while he'll pick himself up a little battery, pack of beer and drink there, watch us play. That was pretty much it, man. That was his day to day life just hanging out with his kids.

[Lyle]

How many brothers you got?

[Julian]

I got two.

[Lyle]

Are you close with them?

[Julian]

The little one? Yeah, not so much. The middle one.

[Lyle]

Is there a reason why?

[Julian]

He just kind of went down the wrong path, man. Tried to straighten them out. Couldn't do it, you know, I let him. Let him find out his own choices have consequences.

[Lyle]

I. I won't pry if it's too much, but like, what, what, what were the choices?

[Julian]

Well, me and him, we grew up playing a guitar and accordion, so he. He recently joined a group and he's just been going downhill after that, man, you know.

[Lyle]

Hold on, brother. I thought you were gonna say he like joined a gang, started playing accordion.

[Julian]

No, it was not gang banging or nothing. You know, he. He hangs out with the. With the artists here in, in our town and you know, kind of the big party lifestyle leads down the wrong path, you know what I mean?

[Lyle]

I kind of don't, to be honest with you. Like, is he doing like. He's doing like hard drugs and shit like that, Selma?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

Yeah, but like, no, I still kind of don't know what you mean. Like, it sounds like he's got like. He plays the accordion. Accordion. He's hanging out with like musician, artist, people, you know, I, you know, like, what's like. Yeah, I guess I'm. I am. I'm a little curious or he just.

[Julian]

Kind of does a poke, I guess, here and there. And I, I personally don't, don't, in what do you call it, involve myself with those kind of people, especially with my daughter being around. I try to set a good example for my daughter, you know. So that's how it is, man.

[Lyle]

Okay. And what about the youngest one?

[Julian]

Oh, man, that guy's a little gamer, dude. All he does is just game.

[Lyle]

What's he playing?

[Julian]

He loves Call of Duty, dude. He loves that.

[Lyle]

How old is he?

[Julian]

Call of Duty and Fortnite, you know. You know, the. The young kids play that.

[Lyle]

Yeah. I've never laid my hands on Fortnite ever in my life. I don't know anything about it.

[Julian]

Really, man. It's pretty fun, man. It's pretty fun.

[Lyle]

How old is the accordion guy?

[Julian]

He is 21.

[Lyle]

And you said you tried to straighten him out. What does that mean?

[Julian]

Just try to give him, you know, advice. Hey, man, you know, it's probably better not to hang out with these kind of people, get involved with these kind of people that do this, this drug, you know, and maybe put yourself in the, in the. With the right group and Then kind of progress from there. Make sure you. Because he does a. Gigs here and there, you know, on the weekends. But the. The group that he's with isn't the best influence on him.

[Lyle]

Okay. But he's making the. So it's mainly the drugs that's the problem?

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Yeah, I would say so.

[Lyle]

Okay. And you don't think, like. Especially the drugs, like, is he on coke all, like, all the time, or he just, like, does it every now and then.

[Julian]

Like every week. And he plays, I guess.

[Lyle]

All right. Yeah. And what do they all think of, like, what's their. What's all their. How are they all taking the divorce?

[Julian]

Well, him, he doesn't really care. You know, he's got his own thing going. But me and my little brother just kind of. Yeah. You know, we're not used to the whole situation of our parents not being together because, you know, we grew up with them being together. All we knew was them being together. So it's not the best, but we're kind of working through it.

[Lyle]

Do they have as close of a relationship to your dad as you do?

[Julian]

Yeah, the little one, the little brother. But the middle one, he doesn't really have a relationship with my dad for that same reason.

[Lyle]

And nobody has heard from your mom? Your mom is completely mia.

[Julian]

Completely mia, man. Last time I heard she has a boyfriend, but never met the guy or anything.

[Lyle]

Do you want your mom in your life or do you not care?

[Julian]

Well, I mean, I kind of do want her in my life for the same reason that I. I wanted to see my baby, her grandchild. But she hasn't owned up to what she has done. You know, she. She still, till this day, says that he didn't cheat on my dad, that there was a whole thing going on that we didn't know about. But it all comes down to it. My dad has her on video with another guy at a cemetery late at night. So it's like, well, here's the evidence. Well, what do you want me to do? Yeah.

[Lyle]

What do you do for. What do you do for work, Julian? Did you tell me already?

[Julian]

No, I haven't, man. I do construction, bro. That's what I do.

[Lyle]

How long you been with your wife?

[Julian]

I've been with her for. Since I was 17, man. 17, 18, 19, 22. Six years.

[Lyle]

I like your life, Julian. That's why I have so many questions. You. You strike me as a. I don't know. You're a real man. You know, you're like the eldest of the two. Like, it seems like you're like, you're like the guy of the family. It feels like you're like the. And you're what, 23?

[Julian]

23.

[Lyle]

And it seems like you're like the point person of the. Of the fucking family, you know, Like, I mean, you're taking care of your, you know, trying to get your brother off of drugs, you're getting your dad out at the club being less depressed. You're taking care of a fucking kid. You're working at construction. Like, you're. I got it. I got a lot of respect for you, man.

[Julian]

Thank you, man. I appreciate it, man. It is kind of hard, you know, mentally, but I'm sure I'm working through it.

[Lyle]

That's really cool.

[Julian]

Gotta try to be happy around my kid, you know, not. Not let those things affect me, but there's only so much you can do.

[Lyle]

Yeah, of course. So you got with your wife when you were 17 and then like.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

How soon after, like, was it just like, was it like a one night stand that turned into a pregnancy that you decided to keep?

[Julian]

No, we had been going out for, I want to say like two months. And then Covid hit and then once Covid hit, we both got it. So we were kind of sleeping in the same room and, you know, you're bored, don't have nothing to do all day.

[Lyle]

Do you have a kid?

[Julian]

Yeah. So you have a kid. Keep the. Get the time rolling.

[Lyle]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Yeah. That's pretty much my life right there, man.

[Lyle]

It's interesting though, because, like, yeah, kind of like your dad, it's like you. You know, I think there's. Yeah, obviously I think having a kid at 17 has a lot of downsides, but if you had to find an upside, it's like, well, you'll be done sooner like your dad, you know.

[Julian]

Oh, hell yeah, man. My dad, I think he had me at like 20. And right now all his kids are growing up, you know, the youngest is 18. Man, that guy's enjoying life right now, going to the club, loving life now. And I'm proud. I'm happy for him, you know, I want him to be happy. I want to help him find someone. And it seems like he did already.

[Lyle]

My dad is 60 something and he, he said to me once, he was like, you know, the nice thing about having kids is that they only really take up a lot of time from your Life for like 16 years.

[Julian]

And then pretty much they're on their own.

[Lyle]

And then they're on their own. And it's funny, the way he said it, the way I took it. I was like 16 years. That's a long time. But then to see my dad being like, you know, he's older and he's enjoying his life still is cool, you know? It's like, oh, I guess maybe that is, like, not that long.

[Julian]

No, man. Like, my daughter right now, she's four.

[Lyle]

Yeah.

[Julian]

She's learning, man. She. She has full sentences with you. She'll ask you. She'll. I'll come home from work, she'll ask me. How's your day, dad? Oh, man, cool. Yeah, it's crazy, man. And she blows my mind sometimes on the questions that she asks me.

[Lyle]

That's so cool.

[Julian]

But, yeah, man. Hell yeah. My bad, dude. I. I'm just kind of nervous, man. I've been trying to talk for I don't know how long.

[Lyle]

Dude, you got nothing to be nervous about at all. Does your wife work?

[Julian]

She just finished school, man. She's trying to get a job right now.

[Lyle]

What's she trying to do?

[Julian]

Phlebotomy.

[Lyle]

Oh, like drawing people's blood and.

[Julian]

Yeah, yeah, that's what. That's what she went to school for. And the job Mark did for that is kind of low. So there's. She can't really any job right now, but like I told her, man. Hey, my income.

[Lyle]

Oh, yeah. Julian, your phone is up real quick. Your phone is up.

[Julian]

Oh, my bad, man. My bad.

[Lyle]

No worries. What were you saying?

[Julian]

I, like. I told her, man, my income supports both of us, so she doesn't really have to worry about finding a job right now.

[Lyle]

Are you getting in a car?

[Julian]

Yeah, man, I'm leaving work right now.

[Lyle]

Oh.

[Julian]

Yeah?

[Lyle]

What are you gonna do when you get home?

[Julian]

Just hang out, man. Pretty much. That's about it. Hang out, play with my daughter for a little bit. That's pretty much my day.

[Lyle]

When you're 46 years old, do you. Do you plan on going to the club?

[Julian]

Well, if I'm single, yeah. But if not, I'll plan on going with my wife.

[Lyle]

That's cool. What do you guys like to do outside of just your regular life?

[Julian]

Pretty much nothing now. We keep it simple. We just like hanging out with each other. It's pretty much it. Anywhere I go, she goes. Anywhere she goes, I go.

[Lyle]

Yeah.

[Julian]

What about you, man? How are you doing?

[Lyle]

I'm doing. I'm doing pretty good. Yeah. I'm doing pretty good. I'm learning to enjoy my life bit by bit.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah, man. That's all you need, man. That's all you need in life right there.

[Lyle]

Yeah, yeah. I've been spending too much time trying to be anywhere else except where I am. Causes a lot of dissonance. What else was I going to say to you? Oh, yeah, you said it's hard. You said your life is hard. Sometimes you have a hard. You seem like you have a difficult thing. I mean, you have a lot of people who you're looking out for.

[Julian]

Get to me a little bit because at the same time, I'm happy for my dad that he's going out, you know, But I'm not mad. It just bothers me a little bit because, like I said, all I knew was my parents being together. So I just. I just kind of get a. Gotta get used to the experience, I guess.

[Lyle]

Why did you say that all you needed was your parents together?

[Julian]

Well, no, I didn't need them together. It's just like all I knew was them being together.

[Lyle]

Oh, sorry, I misheard you. Oh, yeah. What do you think about your. So you haven't met your dad's girlfriend?

[Julian]

No, I haven't, man. Haven't? Well, I. I've met her once and it just so happened that there was a checkpoint when they're getting home from the club and the. His girlfriend didn't have a driver's license. This was like at 2 in the morning, man. So I guess my dad didn't want to call me because he didn't want me to meet her yet. But I guess they had no one else with the driver's license, so that was the only time I've ever met her.

[Lyle]

Hmm.

[Julian]

Yeah. But I guess he's met her kids and everything and now her kids are trying to meet us and I don't know how to go about that.

[Lyle]

Are you. Would you. That sounds, like, nice, though, right? Don't you want to meet them?

[Julian]

Yeah, it sounds nice, but just like I said, man, it's just like a new experience for me that I'm not used to. Yeah, like. Like when you met your stepsisters, how did that. How's that go?

[Lyle]

I don't even remember because I've known my stepsisters for so long. Although I remember I was really young when I met them, so I think I felt a little bit of, like, resistance. Like, I think that they felt when I was younger and my parents were divorced and my dad would, like, bring home someone new and I would meet them and, you know, even my stepmom, for a long time, I think for a long time, my stepmom felt very foreign to me. I remember I was. I, like, was at a Diner once with my dad and my now stepmom. I don't know if they were married yet. And I had like a ice cream sundae or whatever, and I offered my dad a bite of it with the spoon. And then he offered my stepmom a bite of it with the same spoon. And then I said, I'm gonna go get a new spoon. I felt. And you know, I, I remember that. And I. And say, honestly, even remembering that, I feel really bad about that because it made sense to me when I was a kid to like, just reject this foreign presence. Like every, like. Yeah, it just made, it made sense to me to reject that and to like, be upset about that for no real reason. And now that I'm older, I understand that, like. Well, I lucked out. I really lucked out because my, my stepdad is amazing and my stepmom is amazing and like, those are two really great people. And, you know, I'm glad that my, both of my parents found people for them.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

And I used to for a long time. Yeah, I did. Like, I wouldn't. It took me. How old am I? It took me like 10 years to like, say I love you to my stepmom and like, take and like, understand that she was like, trying to like, be a part of my life and she was trying to be helpful and she was trying to be good to me.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

And that, like, I was, you know, I mattered to her and to like, take that. My step, my stepsisters. I don't, I haven't really. I, you know, I see them, but I, they kind of, you know, they live in different places and they have their own lives, but.

[Julian]

Yeah, you don't really get to see them in much.

[Lyle]

No, not really. But. Yeah, when I, Yeah. Growing up, they felt like kind of strangers to me. And as I get older and I become. And it's, it's a, it's a straight up just like maturity thing of like, as I get more mature, I try to be like, oh, these people, these are people. These are people that people I care about, care about. And I should be, I should, like, I should like, really accept the, the family and, you know, I should, you know, have a long term view. Like, these people are gonna be in my life. These people are my family. I should take that in with me and I should really, like, put in active effort to make it so that these people are family. And even the idea, the idea that somebody who's not blood related to you can be family was foreign to me for my entire, like, Childhood and adolescence and that's. I think that's even, like a thing. I think that's a difficult thing for, like, a adolescent to understand, you know, I don't know if that was just.

[Julian]

Me, but yeah, I'm willing to meet them. You know, I don't. I don't have nothing against her or her family. You know, like they said, if it's something serious between them two. Well, when are we gonna meet your kids? And same thing I told my. My dad, you know. Well, if it's serious between you and her, when are we gonna meet her and her kids? But he still hasn't gotten back to me on that because he's. He's out working and partying. So.

[Lyle]

Yeah, I mean, I think if you're. I think if your dad really likes this lady, you should totally, totally meet her.

[Julian]

Well, yeah, that's what. What I'm. Well, I mean, I do want to, but at the same time, I just kind of don't. So I'm just stuck in between those two right now.

[Lyle]

Yeah, fair enough.

[Julian]

But you know. You know how it goes, man. But yeah, like I said, I. If it's really something serious between them too, I'm willing to meet them. I have nothing against them. You know, if they love my dad, I love them too, I guess.

[Lyle]

Julian, it was nice talking to you. You're a cool guy.

[Julian]

Nice. Thank you, man. I thought. I've been waiting so long to talk to you, man.

[Lyle]

Yeah, this is.

[Julian]

Sorry, that was the only thing I bought up.

[Lyle]

Why? You have. Julian, you have nothing to be sorry for. This was a really nice. It was really nice talking to you.

[Julian]

Really nice talking to you too, man.

[Lyle]

Yeah, thanks for giving us this little peek into your life. This is. These are the things I like about doing this show.

[Julian]

Man. And I love watching your show, dude. I'll up in my earphones and I'll listen to your podcast all day, man.

[Lyle]

Thank you, brother. Is there anything else you want to say to the people, the computer before we go?

[Julian]

No, I guess not. Just kind of keep on going, man. That's all you can do.

[Lyle]

Beautiful. Good luck with everything, Julian. Take. Take care. Tell your dad I. Tell your dad the Internet gecko guy that you listen to says hello.

[Julian]

Hell yeah, man. Thank you, Ly. I appreciate it, bro.

[Lyle]

Thank you, Julian. You have a good rest of the night, ma'.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Am.

[Julian]

You too.

[Lyle]

That was Julian. I liked that guy a lot. That guy was cool. What else? Yeah, the guy was cool. He had a cool life. I liked hearing about his dad. Really just a Man, I feel I've talked about this on the show so many times. I don't know if anyone who listens to it relates, but there's so many people that I meet on doing this show or yeah, they talk to on the phone that are like younger than me where that I'm like, this person is so much more of like a man than I like so much more of an adult. That's really what it is. I think that that's really what like fucking being an adult is, is like if you're the. Because like I'm sitting in a chair right now. I could sit in this chair until I died of starvation and it would like nobody else would die if I did that. Like everything. I mean people would be upset. I have people in my life who would be upset if I died, of course, but they wouldn't like other than mentally there, they would be able to continue their lives. I think it's one, I think it's once you have other things that require you to not die. Like I think, yeah, I think that's the difference between like, I think that's what makes an adult is like some massive amount of responsibility and yeah, and yeah, it's cool, man. Like the way Julian like, you know, he has his fucking kid, he's trying to help his brothers, he's trying to help his dad. Like he's, he's a good guy. I like that guy a lot.

[Ad Voice]

Let's be real. Life happens. Kids spill, pets shed and accidents are inevitable. Find a sofa that can keep [e-mail] Starting at just $699, our sofas are fully machine washable inside and out. So you can say goodbye to stains and hello to worry free living. Made with liquid and stain resistant fabrics, they're kid proof, pet friendly and built for everyday life. Plus, changeable fabric covers let you refresh your sofa whenever you want. Neat flexibility. Our modular design lets you rearrange your sofa anytime to fit your space, whether it's a growing family room or a cozy apartment. Plus, they're earth friendly and trusted by over 200,000 happy customers. It's time to upgrade to a stress free mess proof sofa. Visit washablesofas.com today and save that's washablesofas.com offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. Now through November 4th. Shop the annual beauty event and save $5 when you spend $25 on select beauty products. Shop in store or online for items like Dove Body Wash, Native Body Wash, Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser, Dr. Squatch body wash, Neutrogena Hydro Boost Water Gel, Dial Liquid Hand Soap and Olay Body wash. And save $5 when you spend 25. Do offer ends November 4th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[Lyle]

Hey everyone.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Ed Helms here and hi, I'm Kal Penn and we're the hosts of Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast I am.

[Lyle]

Sitting down with Jenny Garth, host of the iHeart podcast. I choose me to discuss the new Audible adaptation of the timeless Jane Austen.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Class classic Pride and Prejudice.

[Lyle]

This is not a trick question. There's no wrong answer. What role would I play?

[Ad Voice]

You know what?

[Alexis]

I can see you as Mr. Darcy.

[Ad Voice]

You got a little Colin Firth.

[Lyle]

Okay, that's really sweet. I appreciate that, but are you sure I'm not the dad? I'm not Mr. Bennett.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Here, listen to Irsay, the Audible and I Heart Audiobook Club on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. This MailChimp horrific jingle is brought to you by MailChimp MailChimp your marketing with AI and more advanced automations to connect to your store. MailChimp your marketing and boost your clicks.

[Julian]

Multi channel campaigns now with sms.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Mailchimp. You're marketing today with the number one AI powered email marketing and automation platform Intuit. Mailchimp number one based on publicly available data on competitors customers. Plans vary. SMS available as add on visit mailchimp.com hello.

[Lyle]

What's up?

[Alexis]

You're joking.

[Lyle]

I'm not. It's me. What's going on?

[Julian]

Oh, no.

[Alexis]

This is simultaneously a great time and also a bad time.

[Lyle]

Oh, okay. Why is it a bad time?

[Alexis]

I met my dad's house for dinner and it's his birthday. He's putting clothes in the laundry right now.

[Lyle]

Oh, do you have time? Well, okay, so why is it a great time?

[Alexis]

Because I can't believe this just happened. My little brother told me to call and. And so I did.

[Lyle]

Do you have time to talk for like a little bit?

[Alexis]

Yeah, yeah, I'll give it. I'll give it a good few minutes.

[Lyle]

All right, cool.

[Alexis]

My brother can go between and let my dad know what's going on.

[Lyle]

Okay, cool. How old is your dad turning?

[Alexis]

He was born in 1974. He's 51. He's 51.

[Lyle]

How's he doing?

[Alexis]

He's doing pretty good. Go tell him what's going on. All Right. He just. He just came back.

[Lyle]

Go inform your dad of the situation.

[Alexis]

Yeah, no, I can't believe this is happening. So I actually sent you an email and you read it very recently.

[Lyle]

Oh, really? Okay, tell me what the email was. Yeah, tell me what the email was.

[Alexis]

I went to the concert. I was going to go by myself, and then I won free tickets and I took my family.

[Lyle]

Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. You said nothing good ever happens to you.

[Alexis]

Not particularly. This, that would qualify as something good.

[Lyle]

Yeah. What else did you say in that email? Was that it?

[Alexis]

I mean, I wrote you before a while ago because I. I talked about burning my. My journals. I have. I moved back home like seven months ago now. I'm shaking a little bit, but we're doing it. Yeah, I moved back home. I was with my partner that I've been with for almost eight years and went through some mental stuff being on my own that it just didn't quite work out and I was bringing us both down a little bit, so I came back home.

[Lyle]

How have things been since you've been back home?

[Alexis]

Good. Good. For the most part. Like, I mean, I'm healthy. I'm healthy and I'm here. I only smoke weed as I whisper and I don't do anything crazy. But at the same time, all my. I get my social interaction from your show.

[Lyle]

You get all of your social interaction from my show?

[Alexis]

I would say 90 of it.

[Lyle]

By like, are you. Do you talk in the Twitch chat or you just mean by like, by like listening?

[Alexis]

No, by proxy.

[Lyle]

Podcast. Like by listening to the podcast.

[Alexis]

Yes.

[Lyle]

Okay. I have multiple things to say to you. What did you say your name was?

[Alexis]

I might be ready. It's Alexis.

[Lyle]

Alexis. Well, first of all, thank you for listening to the show.

[Alexis]

It's been years.

[Lyle]

I appreciate it. But I do need to inform you that this doesn't. It doesn't really count as social interaction.

[Alexis]

I'm very much aware.

[Lyle]

I had a feeling you were aware of that. Okay, where's the other. But this.

[Alexis]

But this. I'm like 50% of the way there.

[Lyle]

This. This vaguely counts as social interaction. Yeah, this vaguely counts as social interaction. This counts as much as social interaction for both of us, I would say.

[Alexis]

Yeah, I appreciate that.

[Lyle]

Okay, where's the other 10% come from?

[Alexis]

I live with my. I mean, I live with my family, so I pretty much. That's my day to day. There's four people in my house, so it's like relatively busy. But at the same time, I just. I don't go out. I go out for appointments, I go out for work. And that's pretty much it. I mean, I had friends when I moved, you know, a year ago from my old job, but once I came back, I was kind of like. Well, I disappeared off the face of the earth. It'd be really weird to just kind of insert myself back into their lives.

[Lyle]

Do you like your. Well, I have multiple questions. Do you like your family? Do you like hanging out with them?

[Lizard]

I do.

[Alexis]

I have, I mean, one younger brother that keeps me on my toes, and then my older brother that I can just, like, you know, be myself with. And a mom that's just. I mean, she's. She's. She's great. She's overprotective, that type.

[Lyle]

But.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

How does your little brother keep you on your toes?

[Alexis]

He's just a goof. He's very connected to the Internet, so he keeps me apprised on whatever the hell is going on on the Internet, even though I don't want to know about it. He does a lot of editing. He does a lot of editing. He does soccer videos. Boy's got 21,000 followers.

[Lyle]

Cool.

[Alexis]

On TikTok. Yeah, it's crazy. He's gonna be 14 soon.

[Lyle]

Cool. That's awesome.

[Alexis]

Yeah. Yeah, I know. He's doing more with his lights than I am right now.

[Lyle]

I used to edit videos when I was like. Yeah, when I. Yeah, yeah. I started. I started making movies. I started. I mean, I was editing videos. Yeah. When I was like, fucking 10 or some shit. I feel like the. The Internet. Yeah. Well, I have multiple thoughts because I'm like, what. On some level, I get scared of, like, the. The version of the Internet that the youth are in now.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

But then I'm like, how old are you?

[Alexis]

27.

[Lyle]

Okay. Yeah. Our. Our version of the Internet when we were 14, it wasn't. It wasn't that different. Like, I don't.

[Alexis]

I don't even know what I used the Internet for. I used it for email.

[Lyle]

Yeah. But, like, I don't know, like, we had, like, you know, Tumblr and we had like, our own weird memes. And, like, it's not like our. Our brain rot wasn't as. Like, maybe it's like the, like the short form video, endless scroll shit is a little.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

Different now. But anyway, that's a. There's a tangent from the other.

[Alexis]

No, you're good.

[Lyle]

There's a tangent.

[Alexis]

It's just everything on the Internet now is like. It's just overstimulating.

[Lyle]

Yeah. Their Internet is definitely a little bit More stimulating. Man, I'm unked out. I don't remember. There was so. There's a lot of things I was going to ask you before I went on that.

[Lizard]

No, you're good.

[Alexis]

I'm just like, I. I wasn't even, like, allowed, Like, I wasn't allowed to have even an email until I was in like fourth grade. So I was just not even on the Internet. Like.

[Lyle]

That'S good though.

[Alexis]

Yes and no. I'm definitely an introvert.

[Lyle]

So do you want more social interaction in your life?

[Alexis]

I do, yes. I feel like. I mean, people call and they say the same thing all the time. It's so hard to make friends, like, organically. And all the people that I work with right now, I'm just working at a, like a fast food place basically. And they're all like 20 years old, the kid managers.

[Lyle]

So where did you move from and then where did you move to?

[Alexis]

I was. Well, I grew up in Chicago and I moved to Ohio for like, I was there for maybe like eight months. I almost made it a year.

[Lyle]

Now you live in Chicago?

[Alexis]

Yeah, now I'm back to Chicago.

[Lyle]

Are you like, like, are you like deep suburbs Chicago or like, how close are you to the city?

[Alexis]

No, like, like right now I'm in the middle of the city. Like, my dad lives in like, the Mexican neighborhood, so it's. It's been popping here a little bit. The school that my brother goes to, sometimes they won't let the kids out because of like, ice in the neighborhood. And like, there's phone trees for people to, you know, drop their kids off. You know, like one person is going to pick up 10 kids and bring them all home. Like, it's kind of nuts over here.

[Lyle]

Oh, because of ice?

[Lizard]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

That's up. That's crazy.

[Alexis]

Yeah. This is the first time I've been over here, like, in a while. But my mom's house, where I'm normally at is like just outside of the city.

[Lyle]

Yeah. Didn't they just do like a whole, like, insane raid?

[Alexis]

I'm pretty sure. I know that they were like, tear gassing the cops themselves. Like, I don't know. I don't. Yeah, I'm like, I really, like, as much as I stay off. I stay off the Internet for like, everything. I'm on Reddit. That's pretty much it.

[Lyle]

Well, I. Well, actually, you know, because you stay, let me say, because you stay off the Internet, you're the best person to ask. Because it's like if something's happening and you know about it, even not being on the Internet, that means it's, like, fucking real. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Alexis]

Yes and no. Yes and no. I hear stuff and it's just like, like, all that can't. I don't know if that's real or I hear something that is real, and I'm like, But it's fake, though. I'm like, they made it up.

[Lyle]

Well, I just mean to say, like, if. Like, if you're, like. If you're, like, on Twitter, like, you'll find a new thing to be outraged and pissed off about every day, but if you're like, oh, yeah, in. If you're, like, walking around the street and living your life and witnessing things to be upset about, that's, you know, that's like a, you know.

[Alexis]

Yeah, just different level of impactful, I guess.

[Lyle]

Right. Okay. So you live in a big, major city, so I don't know. I don't. I'm not gonna go on the whole rant that I always go on. But you. You can have social interaction outside of my podcast if it. If you desire.

[Alexis]

Yeah, I think. I think I'll get there soon enough. I mean, I'm gonna be tired of being cramped up in my house. But now it's winter. Nobody wants to go outside.

[Lyle]

Oh, yeah. Chicago sucks in the winter.

[Alexis]

It's already less than 50 degrees, and it was, like, 70 last week.

[Lyle]

Yeah. Okay. Why do you say that? Nothing good happens in your. You seem like. You seem, like, dissatisfied with your life. I don't know if I'll be able to change that on this phone call, but I'm. I. We can talk about it if you want to.

[Alexis]

Just, like, the quick of it. I mean, I've. I've been in. Out of school for 10 years now. You know, college, and it's just. I'm. I thought I wanted to be a doctor. It was just one of those things. And I was like, wow, this sucks. And now I'm trying to go to nursing school, but I've been trying to go to nursing school for probably, like, five years. Just, you know, health and mental health things have just kept me kind of in this loop. But I think when I. I moved. So, I mean, when I moved away, a lot of the, like, the guts and the inspiration, honestly, came from listening to your podcast of, like, you just have to try some shit. And I was like, I, you know, I need to try. I need to try living on my own. And, like, I was going to school out there, too, and I kind of had, like, this. My plan was set at that point. But it was set, you know, with my partner. And so when that kind of changed, all that went away. It was like. All that motivation was kind of gone. It was like, you know, now my future looks different. And now it's really up to me to figure that out.

[Lyle]

When did you break up with your partner?

[Alexis]

In February.

[Lyle]

So it's up to you to figure out your future.

[Alexis]

It's heavy shit. Kick.

[Lyle]

It is heavy.

[Alexis]

It's okay, though. I'm gonna drop the. But how are you doing?

[Lyle]

No, no, it's heavy. It's heavy shit. It's. Yeah, that's one of the scarier that. That's when I had my existential crisis, is when. When life. Yeah, because when you. Well, at least from, like, 1 to 18, life is pretty on the rails. Right. And then it gets a little. And then, like, what, you go to college maybe, and it's a. It's still on the rail, and then you're 22. And then something like. I felt like I had my crisis because I felt like my life was, like, on the right. Like, things were. Figure it out in some sense for a while. And then they. And then they. And then I realized the future was up to me, and that was really spooky heavy.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

And then where do you go from there? I don't know. That's like. It's like, trying to. It's a very open problem.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

But you can't fester in it, or else you will. You will die.

[Alexis]

Bro. I've been fest. No, you're good. I've been festering, but I'm like, have. But I haven't. I'm moving very slowly. I think I'm. I do see. I see a couple of therapists, and they're telling me that I might be graduating on to a new therapist. So I feel like that's progress.

[Lyle]

What does that mean? You graduate onto a new therapist?

[Alexis]

I. The issue that I have is I have, like. All right, I have a history of, like, eating issues, not eating enough, that kind of stuff. And because of that, I have, like, cyclic vomiting episodes. It's pretty wild. So I've been to the ER for that kind of stuff. And when I was in Ohio, it got really bad, and I. So I needed to come home because I needed, like, medical help and mental help. So that's. Yeah, that's the quick of it. And so I was seeing a. A GI psychologist, like, gastro psychologist, which I didn't know they existed. Could be a ploy for more money. But they sent me There and it helped. So I might be moving on to someone else now. Stuff works. It is one of those things, but it's like, it's a marathon.

[Lyle]

What kinds of stuff do you eat now?

[Alexis]

Oh, my God. I. I mean, I eat like a child. I. The best thing that I eat is probably like black bean burgers. I just had minestrone. Minestrone soup for dinner.

[Lyle]

Was.

[Alexis]

It. What is minestrone soup? Yeah, it's a vegetable soup. It's like Italian. It's really just like noodles, tomato based potatoes, carrots, zucchini, whatever the hell you want to put in there.

[Lyle]

That sounds normal.

[Alexis]

Yeah. Delicious. I eat a lot of pizza.

[Lyle]

Same.

[Alexis]

And a lot of. A lot of pasta, a lot of bread. I have. I've had the same thing for breakfast every day since March of banana, peanut butter and banana smoothie.

[Lyle]

Wait, that's what I have every day for breakfast?

[Alexis]

Are you shitting me right now?

[Lyle]

Every day for breakfast I have a smoothie with peanut butter, almond milk, banana, and a dash of protein powder.

[Alexis]

Oh, it's delicious.

[Lyle]

It's delicious. And it keeps me pretty full. I think it's healthy. Let me know. Okay. If anyone in. I. Okay. Because I've been eating this. The first time I discovered a peanut butter banana smoothie with almond milk, peanut butter, banana and protein powder, I was like, wait, this tastes really good there. I don't. And I don't know a lot about. I'm not a nutrition guy. Let me know in the comments, folks. Is that healthy? Is there any like, it. It seems anything that, like, tastes really good. I'm like, there's got to be something bad about eating this every day. But it. See, I mean, look, peanut butter is a normal food. Bananas are a normal food. Protein powder is, I guess, normal. Like it seems like, you know. You know what I mean? It's not like a milkshake, but it feels. Milkshake.

[Alexis]

Exactly, exactly.

[Ryan Seacrest]

So what's the best?

[Lyle]

There's always a catch. There's always a fucking catch. And I want to know if there's a catch.

[Alexis]

As far as I know, there. There isn't one. And I would not like to know about it if there is.

[Lyle]

I want to know about it if there is.

[Alexis]

No, it would destroy my routine.

[Lyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, food's been. Actually food's been pretty good lately because I'll. Yeah, I'll have the smoothie and then the protein. Shit. It like, kind of keeps me satiated for a while till it's. Till it's time for, you know, lunch.

[Alexis]

Yeah. Which we must. We must have, I guess.

[Lyle]

Yeah. Why have you been skipping meals?

[Alexis]

Oh, my God. Yeah, I'm a. I'm a smoothie person. And then I'll, like, snack, and then at dinner time.

[Lyle]

That's about what I'm doing lately. But that's good for, like, losing weight. I don't know if that's your. What's. What? You're on.

[Alexis]

No, it's not what I'm trying to do. I'm the. Honestly, I put so much peanut butter in the shake, it's like. It's. It's like a maintenance thing. It's, like, as much. As many calories as I can get in there.

[Lyle]

I feel like an idiot asking your name again, but it's okay.

[Alexis]

It's Alexis.

[Lyle]

I could remember. I could recall pretty much everything you told me in this phone call, except for your name.

[Alexis]

That's okay. I trust you.

[Lyle]

Quiz me. Ask me anything about your life, I'll remember it.

[Alexis]

Where did I move from?

[Lyle]

Ohio. Wait. Yeah, Ohio. No, no, wait. No. You move from Chicago to Ohio. Ask me another thing. Keep asking me questions.

[Alexis]

Yeah, I guess that was a bad question. That was a bad question.

[Lyle]

No, no, it wasn't. That wasn't a good question. Keep going.

[Alexis]

How many therapists do I have?

[Lyle]

Three.

[Alexis]

Almost. It's two.

[Lyle]

Okay.

[Alexis]

My brother says six or seven. I don't even know.

[Lyle]

Ask me. Ask me three more questions about your life.

[Alexis]

I feel like you're quizzing me on myself right now.

[Lyle]

No, I'm trying to quiz myself on you because.

[Alexis]

Because how many brothers do I have?

[Lyle]

2. But you just said that. Yeah, but also you. Sometimes you'll just say your name and I'll forget that. So.

[Alexis]

Can you tell me my name? Does that count?

[Lyle]

Alexis, that doesn't count. You have to tell me.

[Alexis]

Oh, all right.

[Julian]

Oh.

[Alexis]

When did I say I broke up with my partner?

[Lyle]

February.

[Alexis]

Nice. That's impressive. Okay, how many followers does my. How many followers does my little brother have on TikTok?

[Lyle]

21,000.

[Alexis]

That's awesome. Yeah, he does.

[Lyle]

See, but just not the game. I. I already forgot. No, it's Alexis.

[Alexis]

But it's okay.

[Lyle]

It. Because I. And I've gone on this rant so many times, but, like, I remember certain things. I don't know. Sometimes I feel like my memory. Sometimes I feel like I'm. I have dementia. Dude. I don't know. I can't tell if my. I can't tell if doing this makes my. You know how, like, people retire and then their dementia gets worse? Like, working like is good. For your brain in some way. You know what I mean?

[Lizard]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

I can't tell if doing this makes me dumber or smarter. I think it. Theoretically, it should make my brain better.

[Alexis]

I think it does. I think it does. But there definitely is that memory component. You talk to so many people. That's a whole lot of information. It's a combo. But you said you journal and that's. I think that's good for your brain too.

[Lyle]

Yeah, I haven't done that in a while. You know, I'll go long periods of time without journaling.

[Alexis]

Same.

[Julian]

I'm. I'm.

[Alexis]

I'm at five years of not journaling right now.

[Lyle]

Oh, really?

[Alexis]

Yeah. Probably.

[Lyle]

How come you haven't. How come you haven't journaled in five years?

[Alexis]

Oh, God, that. I definitely. I think I may have wrote you an email about that.

[Lyle]

Oh, yeah, you said. Yeah, yeah, right. Okay. Remember you said you burned your.

[Alexis]

I did say that.

[Lyle]

Journals.

[Alexis]

I wanted to. I wanted to. I have. I have a lot. I have a lot of. I have years worth, probably maybe like a good six year span worth of journals that sometimes I'll read through them and be like, it's cool. I'm not in that place anymore. And then I kind of wanted to do that when I came home to read them again because I felt like such shit. But I kind of decided not to. And I still have them, but I feel like if I write, I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna talk shit the whole time.

[Lyle]

Talk shit about your life?

[Alexis]

Yeah, I think so. I don't know. I might come out kind of angry, but I guess that's the point.

[Lyle]

Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes I wonder if, like, that's. That's been my whole thing with journaling is sometimes I wonder like, if all of. Because I've. I have so many journals that are just like depressing journals.

[Lizard]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

And you look back at them and you're like, I don't want.

[Julian]

I don't want.

[Lyle]

I don't want to keep record of this. I'd like to forget about this.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

I have angry ones.

[Alexis]

Yeah. Definitely some questionable things in there.

[Lyle]

Yeah. Oh, man. I was reading a journal from like seven years ago where I was. I was saying some insane things.

[Julian]

And.

[Alexis]

I'm like, it's kind of fun, though. Like, maybe now that I'm in a better place, I can go back and read it.

[Lyle]

Yeah. I was saying some insane things and I was like, I think it's good that I wrote that down. It's now, honestly, like, yeah. Now that I'm now that I'm noticing that my life is a recurring series of me, I'm looking back at journals from seven years ago, and I'm like, oh, my life is a recurring series of me. You know, there's been evolutions, there's been. Yeah, blah, blah, blah. But I'm reading some. I'm reading journals from, like, seven, eight years ago, whatever, and I'm like, okay, there's evolutions here, but there's little tiny core, maybe angers or sadnesses or even. Or even joys or annoyances or whatnot that are still, like. The core of them still exist with me eight years later, which feels fucking weird.

[Alexis]

Mm. No, it's. It's a weird feeling to be like, oh, I'm still the same person that I was 10 years ago, but I'm not.

[Lyle]

I don't. Not this. Yeah, right. You're not exactly the same, but you're also kind of totally the same. Yeah.

[Alexis]

I. I feel. As much as I hate to say this, I. I feel like. Wrap it up a little bit.

[Lyle]

You can wrap it up.

[Alexis]

I do wanna. What you said made me think of something that. From my previous, like, group therapy experience, there was a girl who. One time we had to draw something, right, that reflected something. I don't know. I'll try to remember it as best as I can, but her drawing was just of a big spiral, right? It was just a spiral. And she's like, basically, life is like this, right? You start in the middle, and every time you go around the circle, you might end up back in the same place, but you're looking at it from a different perspective. You're just kind of, you know, going around and around, but every. Every time you have more. You know, you're looking at it from a different place or you have more knowledge or you this or that.

[Lyle]

Oh, my God, I hate. I. I hate that I'm gonna think about that every day for the rest of my life.

[Alexis]

You're not the only one. That was probably like seven or eight years ago, and I still think about it all the time.

[Lyle]

I'm definitely going to be thinking about that.

[Alexis]

It just helps me not feel as bad.

[Lyle]

Yeah, okay. Yeah. Life is a spiral. You start from the bit that makes. That makes such perfect sense. But it's good. It's good. It means you're spiraling.

[Alexis]

It's not, you know.

[Lyle]

No, no, I know. No, no, I know, I know. I know exactly what the visual metaphor. I understand the visual metaphor perfectly, I think. Yeah, but you're expanding outwards and you're growing.

[Alexis]

Exactly.

[Lyle]

So that's good. You're not, you know, you're not. It's bad. Yeah. You're not in a circle. You're in a spiral. A spiral has forward momentum outward.

[Alexis]

Exactly.

[Lyle]

But you keep going in cycles to get to that forward momentum. So it is. It is an optimistic shape to live life in.

[Alexis]

Yes.

[Lyle]

All right. I'll let you get back to your dad's birthday party. But thanks for talking to me.

[Alexis]

No, I really appreciate it.

[Lyle]

Is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?

[Alexis]

I think I said it. I think that was my thing. Just. Just keep on going. You'll figure something else out soon.

[Lyle]

Alexis. Okay. I remembered. Okay. Have a good night, Alexis. Thank you for calling, Lyle.

[Alexis]

Thank you, Lyle. You have a good night, too.

[Lyle]

Bye. Bye.

[Lizard]

Bye.

[Lyle]

That was Alexis.

[Ad Voice]

Let's be real. Life happens. Kids spill. Pets shed an accident. Accidents are inevitable. Find a sofa that can keep [e-mail] Starting at just $699, our sofas are fully machine washable inside and out. So you can say goodbye to stains and hello to Worry Free living. Made with liquid and stain resistant fabrics, they're kid proof, pet friendly and built for everyday life. Plus, changeable fabric covers let you refresh your sofa whenever you want. Need flexibility? Our modular design lets you rearrange your sofa anytime to fit your space, whether it's a growing family room or a cozy apartment. Plus, they're earth friendly and trusted by over 200,000 happy customers. It's time to upgrade to a stress free, mess proof sofa. Visit washablesofas.com today and save that's washablesofas.com offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. Now through November 4, shop the annual beauty event and save $5 when you spend $25 on select beauty products. Shop in store or online for items like Dove Body Wash, Native Body Wash, Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser, Dr. Squatch body wash, Neutrogena Hydro Boost Water Gel, Dial Liquid Hand Soap and Olay Body wash. And save $5 when you spend $25 or more. Offer ends November 4th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[Lyle]

Hey everyone, Ed Helms here and hi.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'm Kal Penn and we're the hosts of Irsay, The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I am.

[Lyle]

Sitting down with Jenny Garth, host of the iHeart podcast. I choose me to discuss the new audible adaptation of the timeless Jane Austen.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Classic Pride and Prejudice.

[Lyle]

This is not a trick question. There's no wrong answer. What role would I play?

[Ad Voice]

You know what?

[Alexis]

I can see you as Mr. Darcy.

[Ad Voice]

You got a little Colin Firth.

[Lyle]

Okay, that's really sweet, I appreciate that. But are you sure I'm not the dad? I'm not Mr. Bennett.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Here, listen to Earsay the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Book Club on the iHeartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts. This mailchimp horrific jingle is brought to you by mailchimp mailchimp your marketing with AI and more advanced automations to connect to your store. Mailchimp your marketing and boost your clicks.

[Julian]

Multi channel Campaigns now with SMS.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Let's MailChimp your marketing today with the number one AI powered email marketing and automation platform Intuit. MailChimp number one based on publicly available data on competitors customers. Plans vary. SMS available as add on. Visit mailchimp.com.

[Julian]

Hello?

[Lyle]

Hello?

[Julian]

Hello. Who's this?

[Lyle]

Oh, it's the gecko guy.

[Julian]

Oh, what's up?

[Lyle]

What's up with you, man? How's the thing?

[Julian]

I'm trying to catch these mice, man. Well, you're kind of messing with me.

[Lyle]

You're trying to catch mice?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

Okay.

[Julian]

For a couple days.

[Lyle]

Can I have some context for this?

[Julian]

Well, we, my partner and I moved into a, a new spot, new house like two months ago. And yeah, this house has mice. They run around. We set out traps. They're not, they're not, they're not biting at the traps. And we see them like two to three times a day. It's almost like they're used to us.

[Lyle]

Well, I, I have a question. Why not just live with the mice as if they are like your pets or like, why do you need them gone?

[Julian]

It's a good question. I feel like they're giving me constant jump scares and that is uncomfortable as I'm just trying to live my life.

[Lyle]

What do you look like when you're just trying to live your life?

[Julian]

Oh, that's a good question. I cook a lot of food, which the mice seem to like. I would say that's like one of my main hobbies. I go out and go on a run. That's something I've picked up recently. Kind of a.

[Alexis]

New thing for me.

[Julian]

And then at other times I go to work and I guess the mice probably like that the best because they get to, they get to run around without any distractions.

[Lyle]

Mm. Okay. Well, I mean, is having Mice in your life. It doesn't sound like mice would really interrupt your life all that much. It sounds like they're just kind of there.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

I mean.

[Julian]

It'S uncomfortable having them around.

[Lyle]

Sure.

[Julian]

We just had to. We had to move all the food that we had in our sort of like, common space pantry into. Into spaces. May leave mouse poop everywhere.

[Lyle]

Okay. And, like, why does. I don't. Why does life have to be so perfect? You know, why don't you just.

[Julian]

No, that's real.

[Lyle]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

And I. And you know, I think I.

[Julian]

Other places in my life, I feel like I'm more accepting of that imperfection of life.

[Lyle]

Yeah.

[Julian]

But I feel like my. My home space, that's like the. The one thing that I kind of want to be closer to perfect, if possible. I don't know.

[Lyle]

Yeah. I mean, that's life. Right. Is we. We would like for there to not be mouse poop in our house. You know, sometimes there. Sometimes there just is mouse poop.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Lyle]

In our house. So you can't get rid of it. And sometimes it's a. Sometimes life is about learning to deal with the mouse poop in your house.

[Julian]

Absolutely. No, I. I'm with you on that. Do you have any advice for hunting mice besides. Besides, I don't know, the wider general outlook of advice that you just gave me.

[Lyle]

I don't know if you're looking for, like, logistical advice on how to get rid of mice from your house. I am absolutely one of the worst people to ask about that.

[Julian]

That's fair.

[Alexis]

That's fair.

[Lyle]

Is there anything else you want to say to the people of the computer before we go?

[Julian]

Oh, nah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna leave this one open ended.

[Lyle]

Okay.

[Julian]

Yeah. Thanks, Lyle. I appreciate. Appreciate you calling for sure.

[Lyle]

You have a good rest of the day. Thank you.

[Julian]

You too. Bye. Bye.

[Lyle]

I wouldn't want mice in my house either. I wouldn't. But if. I don't know. Yeah. That's life. Sometimes. Sometimes you get mice in your house and you can't get rid of them. And you. You can move. You can call someone who knows how to get rid of mice. That's what I would do if I were this guy. I would not have called me for this at all. But. Yeah. Or you could just be like, all right, that's what's happening to me. I guess you could take it. Sometimes that's a good strategy. It's a good strategy only if there's no other practical way to deal with the situation. What's that Napoleon meme Do you guys know I'm talking about there's like a Napoleon meme that's like, there's nothing we can do. There's nothing. Hold on. There's nothing we can do, Napoleon. Yeah, yeah. I encourage everyone to look this up. There's nothing we can do. And I don't know what's the history of this. Okay, the phrase embodies hopelessness based on Napoleon's exile to the island of St. Helena where he died. Yeah, sometimes you're just exiled into having mice in your house and there's nothing you can do. There's a Japanese expression for this. Shogunai. Shogunai. Hello folks, it's Lyle here. That's the end of this episode. But get this, I'm releasing a big bonus episode this week. That's right, an entire extra hour of the podcast that you can listen to by becoming a premium member of Therapy gecko over at therapygecko.supercast.com Supercast subscribers get access to bonus episodes. They get a completely ad free podcast feed of the regular show. They get recordings from my live shows members only streams, and they help support my ability to continue doing this podcast. So here's a clip from this week's members only bonus episode.

[Julian]

I found this girl who lives in Pittsburgh, but we go to the same college together in Houston. And they have a lot of money and I just went on this vacation with them. I don't know how to feel, man. Like I just seen some shit with money. Like they just throw it around, man. Like I couldn't comprehend that. And I guess I get jealous, which turns into anger. But I want to stay with her because she has money.

[Lyle]

First of all, are you really going to stay with this girl just because she has money?

[Julian]

I love her. Oh, I didn't mean to say it like that.

[Lyle]

I. If you want to hear this full conversation, you can sign up to become a premium [e-mail] or find the link in the episode description. That's therapygecko.supercast.com Alright, I have nothing else to say.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway this fall. Take care of the little ones in the family with Baby Club Savings now through November 4, spend $25 on select Baby Club products and save $5. Shop for items like Pediasure bottles, Pedialyte powder packs, Huggies baby wipes, Huggies diapers, Gerber puffs and Gerber pouches. And save $5 when you buy $25 or more on participating products. Offer ends November 4th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details. Get ready to power up your play with Nintendo Switch 2. Power up the visuals with four vivid.

[Lyle]

Screen power of the fun with exclusive new games like Mario Kart World and Donkey Kong bonanza. Nintendo Switch 2 all together anytime, anywhere. Games rated E to E10 plus games and systems sold separately compatible TV required for 4K display.

[Julian]

Wednesday at 10, 9 Central on BET.

[Lyle]

An all new episode of 106 in.

[Julian]

Sports from executive producers LeBron James and Maverick Carter. It's a new top five countdown with hosts Ashley Nicole Moss and Cam Newton. They're breaking down the top moments in sports, culture and entertainment and highlighting both.

[Lyle]

Established pros and the stars on the come up. Watch the all new series 106 in.

[Julian]

Sports Wednesday at 10, 9 Central on BET or catch up the next day on bet.

[Ryan Seacrest]

At Hill's Pet Nutrition, we know that pet parent guilt is real.

[Julian]

Leaving too long, playing too little. New homes, new babies. Waking them up when they look so comfy.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Running out of patience.

[Julian]

Running out of treats, running the vacuum. You can only do so much.

[Lyle]

That's why there's hills.

[Julian]

Science led nutrition to help you give more love than humanly possible because you're only human.

[Lyle]

There's hills.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Find the right [e-mail] science does more.

[Alexis]

This is an iHeart podcast.