Podcast Summary: This Guy Sucked – Episode on Jerry Lee Lewis with Dr. Robert Komanecki
Release Date: March 20, 2025
In this compelling episode of This Guy Sucked, historian Dr. Claire Aubin engages in an in-depth critique of rock and roll pioneer Jerry Lee Lewis alongside expert guest, Dr. Robert Komanecki, a lecturer in music theory and history at the University of British Columbia. The episode meticulously dissects Lewis's controversial legacy, exploring his contributions to music juxtaposed with his deeply troubling personal life and behavior.
1. Introduction to Jerry Lee Lewis
Dr. Komanecki sets the stage by expressing his disdain for Jerry Lee Lewis, stating, “I fucking hate this guy” (02:09). He highlights Lewis’s dual legacy as both a musical innovator and a widely criticized personality. Despite his recognition as a "pioneer in early rock and roll" and being one of the "architects of the genre" alongside Elvis Presley, Lewis's personal conduct often overshadows his musical achievements.
2. Musical Contributions and Originality
While acknowledging Lewis's undeniable talent and originality on the piano, Dr. Komanecki critiques the common narrative that elevates Lewis above his black contemporaries. He points out that many of Lewis’s flamboyant performance styles and musical techniques were already being pioneered by black musicians such as Slim Gaillard and Fats Domino well before Lewis gained fame. Komanecki asserts, “Jerry Lee Lewis was a stylist, not a songwriter. A lot of his songs were written by black artists and covers of black artists” (12:33), emphasizing that his contributions may be overstated and not as revolutionary as often portrayed.
3. Personal Life and Marriages
a. Early Life and Troubled Upbringing
Dr. Clair Aubin touches upon Lewis's tumultuous upbringing, mentioning the tragic early loss of his brother and his father's violent behavior, including bringing rattlesnakes into their attic. These early experiences, according to Komanecki, may have shaped his later abusive behavior (05:15).
b. Controversial Marriage to Myra Gale Brown
The discussion delves into Lewis's marriage to his 13-year-old first cousin, Myra Gale Brown, when he was 21 (18:27). Komanecki criticizes Lewis for marrying a minor and highlights Lewis's unapologetic stance, quoting him saying, “She was, you know, fully, fully ripe, ready for the pluckin’” (19:48). This marriage not only sparked immense scandal but also derailed his burgeoning career, as the revelation of the marriage led to widespread condemnation and a significant backlash in the media.
c. Subsequent Marriages and Alleged Abuse
Lewis’s tumultuous marital history includes seven wives, with multiple instances of bigamy and alleged abuse. Aubin provides a harrowing account of his fifth wife, who died under suspicious circumstances soon after Lewis threatened her with violence (20:30). Komanecki adds, “every single one” of Lewis’s wives claimed abuse (33:10), painting a grim picture of his relationships and reinforcing the argument that Lewis was not just a flawed individual but a repeat offender in his personal life.
4. Onstage Persona and Behavioral Issues
Lewis's stage antics, while initially captivating, often crossed into destructive behavior. Komanecki recounts incidents such as Lewis pushing his piano into the ocean (26:51) and engaging in physical altercations with other artists like Chuck Berry and Janis Joplin (29:20). These actions not only tarnished his reputation but also demonstrated his inability to control his aggressive impulses. Aubin observes, “he’s kind of the same across the board, which is kind of like, odd” (43:43), indicating a consistent pattern of problematic behavior both on and off stage.
5. Racial Issues and Ego
A significant portion of the discussion centers on Lewis's racial attitudes and inflated ego. Komanecki criticizes Lewis for refusing to credit black artists who influenced his music, despite his own acknowledgment of their impact. He states, “he was being influenced by black blues players in the South” yet Lewis “only credits white singers as his inspiration” (36:06). This refusal to acknowledge his roots in black music not only demonstrates racial insensitivity but also an inflated sense of self-worth that hindered genuine collaboration and respect within the musical community.
6. Impact on Legacy and Recognition
Despite his numerous transgressions, Jerry Lee Lewis received significant accolades, including induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and a Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award. Aubin questions the appropriateness of these honors, arguing, “there's a way to engage with someone's art if you really believe in the separation of the art from the artist... But we still are, like, even when he dies” (34:24). Komanecki agrees, expressing discomfort with separating Lewis's musical contributions from his personal misconduct, noting that “the talent never seems like it's that amazing that you should just be like, forgetting about all of the abuse” (34:24).
7. Conclusion: A Legacy Marred by Misdeeds
The episode culminates in a consensus between Aubin and Komanecki that Jerry Lee Lewis's legacy is irreparably tainted by his abusive behavior, unethical relationships, and racial insensitivity. Dr. Aubin remarks, “There's so much more. This is just 50 minutes of a lifetime of insanity. Like, a lifetime of just, like, harming women” (46:05), emphasizing that Lewis’s personal failings overshadow his musical contributions, making it difficult to honor him solely for his artistry.
Notable Quotes:
- "I fucking hate this guy." – Dr. Robert Komanecki (02:09)
- "She was, you know, fully, fully ripe, ready for the pluckin’." – Dr. Robert Komanecki on Lewis's justification for marrying his 13-year-old cousin (19:48)
- "Everyone can't do that. You especially can't do that because everyone will know if you do that." – Dr. Claire Aubin on societal views of Lewis’s actions (39:33)
- "The talent never seems like it's that amazing that you should just be like, forgetting about all of the abuse." – Dr. Robert Komanecki (34:24)
- "This is just 50 minutes of a lifetime of insanity. Like, a lifetime of just, like, harming women." – Dr. Claire Aubin (46:05)
This episode of This Guy Sucked serves as a critical examination of how societal allowances for problematic behavior in influential figures can distort historical narratives. By spotlighting the darker aspects of Jerry Lee Lewis's life, Dr. Aubin and Dr. Komanecki challenge listeners to reconsider the legacy of individuals who have made significant cultural impacts while perpetrating personal atrocities.
