Ep 295: It's The 420 Episode

Summary

Podcast Summary: This Is Important – Ep 295: “It’s The 420 Episode”

Release Date: April 21, 2026
Hosts: Adam Devine, Anders Holm (Ders), Blake Anderson, Kyle Newacheck

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Episode Overview

This episode of This Is Important is the long-awaited “420 Episode.” The guys riff on their personal relationships with weed, hilarious and awkward 420 memories, pop cultural and family dynamics around weed use, and their complex opinions on stoner identity. The conversation spins out into tattoo culture, SNL and sketch comedy nostalgia, generational shifts in how people communicate, and a hearty debate on goth girls, voice notes, and the social function of news in old age. The guys keep things fast, loose, and true to their signature blend of absurdity and genuine insight.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. 420 Stories, Stoner Identity & Smoking Habits

[09:14–12:59; 65:19–67:47]

• Adam lights up on-air ("I sparked one up, dude. 420, one of my favorite holidays, really." – Adam, [09:20])
• The group discusses the cultural shift of weed becoming legal and mainstream.
• Adam talks about getting a lot of free weed, especially from Nathan of the band Waves ("He started his own weed company called Wavy and it's great." – Adam, [11:03])
• While several hosts smoked in high school, Adam says he loves weed but never identified as a “stoner":
  • “I never called myself a true stoner. I feel like some people, it’s their entire identity… I just was like, I don’t want it to be my whole identity.” – Adam ([09:59])
• Munchies differences: Adam doesn't get hungry after smoking, but instead gets hyper-focused ([12:05])
• The hosts reminisce about 420 culture in high school, the secret camaraderie, and “teachers all kind of knowing” ([12:41])

2. Zits, Gross-out Stories, & Pop Culture Discomfort

[04:12–07:44]

• Adam bemoans a persistent zit; Ders and Blake swap mom-popping-zits stories.
• There’s a recurring bit about the odd satisfaction some people get from popping zits (and girls’ stereotypical fascination with zit-popping.)
  • “That is something I don’t understand even a little bit… No sir, I don’t like it.” – Adam ([05:51])
• “My brothers would pop zits into the mirror on purpose as like, a territory thing.” – Ders ([06:11])

3. Theme Tattoos, Identity, and Regrets

[15:16–24:11; 31:52–39:39]

• Blake presents a hypothetical: if you had to get your whole body tattooed to a theme, what would it be?
  • Adam dislikes themed tattoos: “To me, tattoos are like, a moment in your life that means something to you… It should be a moment in your life that means something to you.” ([17:29])
  • Blake argues for Bay Area pride: “I could see myself having, like, Ricky Henderson, Mac Dre… on my forearms it says Golden State, like, warrior.” ([20:07])
  • Adam: “I just know that if you’re covered in Bay Area state warriors… I would have at some point been like, allegedly, it’s not clicking.” ([21:39])
  • Ders would do “portraits of wife, kids… You gotta go family.” ([37:25])
• Bit on “corn tattoos” and Midwest symbolism—Adam knew multiple people with corn husk tattoos in high school ([32:07])
• Jokey ideas about tattoos for comedic heroes (Farley, Jim Carrey, SNL cast, etc.)—eventually the hosts all agree real tattoos should be personal or very meaningful, and that themed full-body tattoos remain a bad idea.

4. Stoner Rituals & DIY Devices

[66:31–67:47]

• Adam tells of a friend who insisted on getting under a “blue tarp” to trap weed smoke for "maximum high."
  • “Every time you go over there, he’s wanting to do this. I’m like, man, I don’t really want to get under the tarp at this guy again…” – Adam ([66:57])
• Shotgun stories: None of the guys did shotgun inhales with friends much ("I don’t know how many, like, homie to homie shotguns." – Adam, [66:11])

5. SNL Nostalgia, Comedy Icons, The Problem with Spin-offs

[25:35–45:18]

• Spirited debate over best SNL cast era; tattoo-based tribute ideas.
  • “Basically the cast of SNL in, like, 1992-95.” – Adam ([26:20])
• Deep dive on Tim Meadows’ comedic style and career ([43:38]) and meeting Gavin Newsom at the Super Bowl ([14:01])
• SNL UK, the allure of “war stories” from SNL cast members, and how sketch comedy lore carries lasting impact.

6. Goth Girls, Emo, and the Macabre

[39:18–42:38]

• Animated debate about the appeal of goth girls and the cultural boundaries between “goth,” “emo,” and “macabre.”
  • “I don’t like goth babes… I don’t like the darkness, you know what I mean? But then, Elvira…” – Adam ([39:22])
  • Blake insists there's a distinct, poetic romance to the scene and brings up The Cure, Joy Division, and goth music as touchpoints.
• On Suicide Girls, emo vs goth communities, and classic SNL “dark” sketches.

7. Modern Communication: Voice Notes vs. Texting

[60:02–63:10]

• Discussion about the evolution of communication: voice-to-text, voice notes, vs. calling and old-school voicemails.
  • “People send me voice notes all the time. I don't even know how to do it, I've tried several times.” – Adam ([61:51])
  • “If it’s a voice memo, no, that seems like an invasion of my body.” – Ders ([64:48])
  • General consensus: direct phone calls for genuine connections, otherwise stick to written messages.

8. Why Do Old People Love the News?

[52:02–53:23]

• Adam questions why older generations are glued to the news, positing it’s about feeling connected.
  • “I don't get why old people like watching it. If I'm old, you're not going to catch me watching the news… I've already won at that point.” ([52:03])
  • Blake: “I'm gonna do what my parents do and just watch all the game shows. Game shows are where it's at.” ([52:16])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Adam (on quitting "stoner" identity):
  “I just was like, I don’t want it to be my whole identity. So I never went fully stoner.” ([09:59])

• Blake (on themed tattoos):
  “I think that’s an easy call… on my forearms, it says Golden State… That could be pretty cool.” ([21:04])

• Ders (on SNL straight-man comedy):
  “Just repeating the situation out loud to the audience and crushing doing that, I feel like Tim Meadows created that.” ([45:51])

• Adam (on old people and the news):
  “If I’m old, you’re not going to catch me watching the news. I’ve already won at that point. I don’t need to know what’s going to happen.” ([52:03])

• Ders (on voice notes):
  “If it’s a voice memo... that seems like an invasion of my body… It goes inside my ears, into my ears. I can’t unhear.” ([64:48])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Weed, 420, and Stoner Identity:
  [09:14] – [12:59], [65:19] – [67:47]
• Tattoo Debate:
  [15:16] – [24:11], [31:52] – [39:39]
• SNL/Comedy Icon Nostalgia:
  [25:35] – [45:18]
• Goth/Emo Discussion:
  [39:18] – [42:38]
• Voice Notes vs. Texting:
  [60:02] – [63:10]
• Old People and the News:
  [52:02] – [53:23]

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Episode Vibe & Takeaways

The episode keeps up the show’s goofy energy but lands on some surprisingly thoughtful ground—especially in dissecting identity, friendship, and how people signal who they are (through weed, tattoos, music, or even which news they watch). There’s plenty of classic TII derailing and inside jokes (“I just want to party”; “life’s a bit and then you die”; bits about American Psycho and “baydestrian” tattoos).

Final message:
“Pick up the phone and call your friend. And then get a full body tattoo based on that call.” – Adam ([64:15]), jokingly summarizing the spirit of this 420-themed reunion.

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[For Listeners Who Missed It]

This is a pure hangout episode, running the gamut from stoner culture to pop nostalgia and contemporary life’s oddities. A must-listen for fans of the guys' chemistry, irreverent takes on everyday weirdness, and anyone who’s ever celebrated (or avoided) 420.

Transcript

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[Kalpen (Cal Penn)]

Welcome to this is Important, a production

[Adam]

of iHeartRadio, the show where we talk about what's obviously most critically, crucially important. Today on this is important.

[Ders]

Yo, I'm like y'. All. I'm like y'. All. I roll jays, bruh.

[Adam]

Oh, so life's a bit and then you die, Dude.

[Blake]

Imagine freaking hitting the doggy style. You're playing flappy bird.

[Adam]

Let's go.

[Blake]

I just want a part.

[Ders]

Friendship. Friendship.

[Adam]

I'm your friend. I got a huge zit. Dude, this is not gonna send it

[Blake]

this thing right here.

[Ders]

Freaking see ya get it.

[Adam]

It does not want to go away.

[Ders]

Has anyone ever popped has anyone ever popped a zit on Netflix? Are we doing this?

[Adam]

I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. I don't like popping zits. My wife has convinced me that popping zits only makes it worse.

[Blake]

I think she's right.

[Ders]

And you should see his wife's face. She's just covered in agony.

[Adam]

Pizza.

[Ders]

Pizza.

[Adam]

No, she's not. My wife is beautiful.

[Blake]

Pizza.

[Adam]

Pizza.

[Blake]

That is true.

[Adam]

Zero zits. Never. Never had it.

[Blake]

You're lucky. Hey, you're lucky.

[Ders]

What's her theory?

[Adam]

It could just scar and like it. It. It takes longer to go away, which I think she is Right. I think she's right.

[Blake]

Yes.

[Adam]

My mom scarred me. My mom scarred me as a youth. I have scars in my temples from popping Zits. Penny Divine Shoe popped them.

[Blake]

Your mom popped your z.

[Ders]

My mom would pop the ones on my back.

[Adam]

Yeah. When I was like, 13 or whatever. And she was like, let me get. Let me get it. And I'm like. And she dug in and scarred me.

[Blake]

I've heard of moms popping back, but I've never heard of moms popping faces.

[Ders]

And I think that is the number one thing moms are required to do is pop your son's back knee.

[Blake]

That is crazy.

[Ders]

I would get zits on my back from the swimming pool. I would get it from the chlorine. And there would be. There are a couple girls on the swim team shout out. Who would. When you're just sitting there between events, you're waiting.

[Blake]

They'd be like, young love, dude.

[Adam]

I. That's some. That's something I don't understand even a little bit. The pimple is girls fascination with popping zits. No, sir, I don't like it. And nor would I ever want to do it to someone else.

[Blake]

I. I wouldn't want someone's like, pus on me or whatever the hell that is.

[Ders]

I think I told you guys my brothers would pop zits into the mirror on purpose, okay. As like, a territory thing.

[Adam]

They'd be like, very gross.

[Ders]

Pow. And they'd be like, you see that? And I'd be like, I'm 10. What is. I don't know what's happening?

[Blake]

Get here.

[Adam]

How much younger are you then? It's. Eric is the oldest or Oli's the oldest.

[Ders]

Oli's the oldest.

[Blake]

Okay.

[Ders]

Six years younger than him, four years younger than Eric. So, yeah, they're just in another.

[Blake]

Another manosphere.

[Ders]

I didn't even know them if you guys met them. I don't know them.

[Blake]

Yeah, Oli was on the cruise. And he killed it, though.

[Ders]

Oli was on the cruise. Yeah.

[Adam]

Oli was a MVP of the cruise.

[Ders]

Karaoke.

[Adam]

Karaoke. It was sick, dude.

[Ders]

He TR in beautiful home, Chicago house tradition. He tried to do a Robin s song called Show Me love, but he ended up getting the Robin, like, from Sweden show me love song, which also.

[Blake]

But fuck Robin for having that song. Like, you can't have that song and be Robin.

[Adam]

I don't know what any of the words.

[Ders]

Last week, we already covered my umbridges, but you know, Robin who did, like, dancing on my own fucking early, like, middle. Like, what was that? 20 2009.

[Blake]

This is gonna be a.

[Adam]

Well, you can't play it on Netflix.

[Blake]

This is gonna be a Netflix moment because we gotta find how dare you? We gotta find this Robinson.

[Adam]

How dare you not our favorite corporate overlord.

[Blake]

Is it R, O, B, Y, N?

[Ders]

Yeah, that's Robin. Show me love.

[Adam]

Durs. Why are you dressed in a Native American blanket?

[Ders]

Out of respect.

[Adam]

Yeah, good.

[Blake]

No, Robin. Robin is OB Y N. Is this.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Blake]

Sucker for love.

[Adam]

Now, this is good podcasting right here.

[Blake]

This is really good podcast.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Ders]

This is like how Tom Lycus used to just let silences hang.

[Blake]

Hold on, hold on. Let's see what.

[Ders]

He's not on the air anymore.

[Adam]

Tom Lykis is my neighbor. What is this?

[Blake]

I don't know what that is.

[Ders]

No, that's not it.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Blake]

So what's the biggest Robin song, Robin? The Swedish one.

[Ders]

Dancing on My Own. Dancing on My Own. That's like the one that ended the Girls pilot.

[Blake]

Okay, okay, here we go.

[Ders]

Here we go. We are not in the manosphere.

[Blake]

Okay, here we go.

[Ders]

Here we go. Okay.

[Adam]

This song took Adam.

[Ders]

No moments. This is Adam's elliptical song, for sure.

[Blake]

Okay. Okay.

[Adam]

Oh, dude. Yeah, this is me on the fucking bike. And I'm just.

[Blake]

And I'm sorry for anybody, but this is. That was for our I heart listeners, because you got a little taste of that.

[Ders]

So just to get into this real quick.

[Kalpen (Cal Penn)]

Real quick.

[Blake]

Yes, Robin.

[Kalpen (Cal Penn)]

Before.

[Ders]

Before that album had like a almost hit wonder way earlier called Show Me Love. But Show Me Love was already a song by a woman named Robin s from the 90s, which is way bigger.

[Blake]

Way bigger, way better.

[Ders]

And what are you going to do? And that's what he was trying to do. MVP of the cruise.

[Blake]

Holy.

[Adam]

What a king.

[Ders]

Adam, are you smoking something? Burn. Hold up.

[Blake]

Is it real, Adam?

[Adam]

Yeah, dude, it is. It is.421.

[Blake]

Hello.

[Adam]

And I just. I sparked one up, dude.

[Blake]

I just want to party.

[Adam]

420. One of my favorite holidays, really. I think I stopped celebrating it when I was, like, 20 years old.

[Ders]

But smoke weed every day.

[Adam]

It is a great. It's a fun day to just smoke a dude. Right?

[Ders]

You didn't celebrate it into your 20s.

[Adam]

No, I think I probably did. I probably did. I don't. I was never. I really like smoking weed. I would say I love it. I have a ton of weed friendship. But I. I never called myself a true stoner. I feel like some people.

[Ders]

Stoners do that.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ders]

Some call some people stoners.

[Adam]

Yeah, some people. It's their entire identity. And I just was like, I don't want it to be my whole identity. So I never went fully stoner was

[Ders]

kind of like a derogatory.

[Adam]

No, no, no, no.

[Blake]

I think, like Whiz Khalifa, they're taking it back. Really coined. And. Yeah, like Juicy J. Stone.

[Ders]

So they're, like, leaning.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Blake]

Stoner.

[Adam]

Yeah. But smoking. Smoking weed rocks. Big shout out to weed.

[Ders]

Smoking rocks different.

[Blake]

This is the way.

[Adam]

Thank God that California has legalized it. It's very cool. Very cool.

[Blake]

Yeah. Where do you. Do you have a shop? Do you. Are you a shopper? Got you going to the store. Are you still buying it from, like, your neighbor? What's going on here?

[Adam]

You know, I. I would. I. I hate to be this person, but I get so much free weed.

[Ders]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, sure.

[Adam]

You know, I. I don't like. I don't like that. I have to admit that. But I'm given so much free weed. Specifically Wavy. You know what?

[Blake]

I think that's Nathan.

[Adam]

You know our. Yeah, our boy Nathan from the band Waves.

[Blake]

Yes.

[Adam]

He started his own weed company called Wavy, and it's great.

[Ders]

Two V's. Yeah, two V's in there.

[Adam]

Yeah. Legalized comedy. It's great weed. And he just backed the truck up on me. So.

[Blake]

Did he. How's it smoking?

[Adam]

Great. Yeah.

[Blake]

Nice, dude. Yeah, that's freaking cool. Are you. Do you feel like you smoke? Like, when the family goes to bed, is that like, dad's time to get stoned? Or are you, like a ride of

[Ders]

vibe just in case there's an emergency in the middle of the night kind of thing?

[Blake]

Yeah, yeah, kind of. Just.

[Adam]

No, I. I smoke, like, if I have to read a script or something, and I just want to zero in on the script and just sort of lock in on it. I'll smoke a little something and then just.

[Advertiser]

Just turn it.

[Adam]

I can't get enough.

[Ders]

So you playing the Hollywood song we get?

[Adam]

You're Hollywood.

[Blake]

My bad. I. I was.

[Adam]

I think it's. For me, I get hyper focused on a thing. If I'm stone, I feel other. Other people are different. It's also an. A. Appetite suppressant for me. I don't get hungry like other people.

[Blake]

You don't get the munchies?

[Adam]

I don't.

[Blake]

Oh, dude.

[Adam]

I don't. And. And then I get, like, pretty locked in, laser focused on whatever I'm doing.

[Ders]

Adam, can we see this?

[Blake]

We.

[Ders]

And then he holds up, just mad. He's like, yeah, I just get locked in.

[Adam]

Yeah, just sprinkle this white dust on it. And.

[Blake]

Yeah, I. Yeah, just.

[Adam]

Well, if you have this baggie of white dust and you mix it in with the green stuff, Then you're hyper, laser focused, super locked in.

[Ders]

Shout out, Nathan of the weave, Nathan of Weebs.

[Adam]

Who's smoking now?

[Blake]

Yeah, baby.

[Adam]

But. But 420 was such a fun, fun thing in, in high school because I was a little bit of a high school stoner to walk around, and then all the other little stoners are like, hey, Happy holidays. Happy holidays. And then the teachers all kind of know.

[Blake]

They're like, they're high too.

[Adam]

That's it.

[Blake]

It should be a day day where everybody, like, you have to. It's. It's. It's mandatory. Everybody has to be stoned that day.

[Ders]

Why don't you talk to your boy Gavin Newsom?

[Blake]

I, I would love to, man. I, I want Gavin.

[Adam]

Is he. Is he your boy?

[Ders]

Yo, I'm like, y'.

[Kalpen (Cal Penn)]

All.

[Ders]

I'm like, y'.

[Blake]

All.

[Ders]

I roll Jays, bruh.

[Blake]

You know what? I, I, you know, I had never. I never had big opinions on Gavin, but I heard him interviewed the other day.

[Adam]

Anything, really?

[Blake]

Yeah, no, I, I stay pretty neutral and everything.

[Adam]

That's great for comedy.

[Ders]

It's cool or not. That's good.

[Blake]

Yeah. Well, new. It's about nuance, Adam. You don't have to take huge, you know, stances. Nuanced comedy is very hilarious. But I heard Gavin being interviewed about his new book, and I. I thought he was very charming. Very good. But he is a politician. Of course.

[Adam]

Of course he's charming. Yeah. I. I think I told you guys. I met him at the super bowl, and he's just fucking great. At work, in a room.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Adam]

You know, I was talking with Tiffany. I was hanging out with Tiffany Haddish, so he, I think recognized her. Came over. I said, good to see you again. He doesn't even remember meeting me. I had met him one other time, like, a year ago, and he's like,

[Ders]

I wish he called you out on that.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Ders]

And was like, where'd you see me, at the polls?

[Blake]

Yeah. You didn't see? No.

[Adam]

He goes, good to meet, and I go, see you again at the same time. And then he quickly pivoted to see you again, and I was like, oh, you're good. Oh, you're good.

[Blake]

He flipped a diesel.

[Ders]

Rizled on, wrote the check. Didn't you?

[Adam]

Upon meeting him. He's wildly charming, as most politicians are when you meet them.

[Blake]

Yes.

[Adam]

He always gave me skeezy vibes.

[Blake]

Okay. Like four. That's the hair. That's the hair.

[Ders]

Slick back hair. What is he doing with the slick back hair?

[Adam]

Get rid of the slick back.

[Ders]

I bet you would be so crazy to me. I know.

[Adam]

You would be much more successful because it is weird. Just look at your slick back hair. And they're like, I can't trust this guy. Yeah, he's gonna sell me a shitty car.

[Blake]

He looks like he belongs in Gotham City. He looks like a Batman villain.

[Ders]

Yeah, a Batman villain or a Batman like crooked politician.

[Adam]

Yeah, crooked politician. Yeah.

[Blake]

Yes. Yeah. Which is a villain. What you don't. You're saying. No, no. Not a part of the Rogues gal.

[Ders]

Not like a traditional.

[Adam]

Yeah, he's. He's not the Joker.

[Blake]

No, no, no, no. Well, he could be. If he fell into some like toxic waste.

[Ders]

Well, he'd be two faced, right? Isn't two face like a politician turned villain?

[Blake]

He was Harvey Dent. Of course.

[Ders]

Of course.

[Blake]

Very.

[Ders]

He's very Harvey dude.

[Adam]

I don't know.

[Blake]

He's very Harvey dead dude.

[Adam]

There was this guy at the gym the other day that he came over and he was.

[Ders]

He, you know, it's a very much

[Adam]

a Newport beach like dad, look at Adam's.

[Ders]

Karen's over with his.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Ders]

His white teeth.

[Adam]

And I'm sure he like works for some hedge fund or something. And he's got these giant. But he's absolutely jacked. And he's wearing like a. A slinky. Slinky.

[Blake]

Slinky top. I thought you're gonna say a slinky as a necklace. I'm like, this guy's cool, right?

[Ders]

I created this link so you can

[Adam]

see a lot of his body. He had maybe six Batman tattoos on his body.

[Blake]

Oh, I like that dude.

[Adam]

He was covered in bat and he.

[Blake]

I like that.

[Adam]

Ripped.

[Ders]

This is ripped. I love this too.

[Blake]

Okay. If you had to have a. A theme to your. Like you're. You have to.

[Adam]

Don't have a theme.

[Blake]

No, no, no. You have to pick it. You have to get a theme. You're getting fully tatted, but your body must have. It can be horror. Like a lot of people go horror.

[Adam]

They do.

[Blake]

A lot of people go Batman. What theme would you pick?

[Adam]

Apparently it was so weird that this man, he was talking about his family. He was perfectly nice saying like his family, like love was pitch perfect or whatever. And. And he just saw Mike and Dave

[Blake]

on Netflix and I would get Mike and Dave.

[Ders]

You would go full back tat. I got this.

[Blake]

Here's Sam Richardson right here. Like that.

[Adam]

Sick.

[Blake]

Yeah, we got Adam. Ye.

[Adam]

Thank you.

[Ders]

Thank you.

[Blake]

Mike and Dave on my butt cheeks.

[Adam]

You get Aubrey and Anna on your shoulder blades.

[Ders]

Keep going.

[Blake]

Yeah, it could be sick. Who Else. Sugarland.

[Adam]

Sugarland beard. That's right.

[Blake]

Yep. She's in there.

[Adam]

I see. To me, I think that's incredibly dorky to get to go with a full thing.

[Blake]

Dude, no, you got to pick.

[Adam]

Like, it should. To me, tattoos are like, I'm going

[Blake]

to give you one right now.

[Adam]

I'm not a tattoo guy. I got one, and it was. It was a bad choice. It was, you know.

[Blake]

Okay.

[Adam]

But my thought process then. And still to this day, it holds. It should be a moment in your life that means something to you.

[Blake]

Okay. Yeah.

[Adam]

So, like, that's why I. It doesn't need to be.

[Blake]

That's why I got. That's why I got Mike and Dave. It was a huge moment in my life. I was so pumped for you. Yeah. Your body looked great.

[Adam]

Thank you.

[Blake]

And I'm like, I want my guy to look at me and remember this moment.

[Adam]

Yeah. All right.

[Ders]

But so, like. But so then you're into, like, hodge podgy. Cuz if. If it's moments in life, obviously, that is you. Like, not you you. But like, one's life, right?

[Blake]

Sure.

[Adam]

Yeah. That you look back and you're like, oh, yeah. That time in Thailand when I got this cool thing that reminds me of this. This crazy adventure I went on or whatever.

[Ders]

Of that lady boy.

[Adam]

Of that lady boy.

[Ders]

I'm like, what else is it?

[Adam]

We could go to Thailand and not. I mean, I don't know. I was thinking of a place that is far away that you would go on an adventure. By the way, Taiwanese people.

[Blake]

Why that.

[Adam]

The second I mentioned Thailand, Durst is thinking of lady boys, dude.

[Ders]

Well, I'm gonna hang out.

[Blake]

You're the one who likes really big swings in comedy, and that is first.

[Ders]

And I'm gonna take this a little bit further.

[Adam]

So offended right now. Now, Blake, it's called taking a swing.

[Ders]

And, Adam, I'm gonna take this a little further. Okay? I'm offended for everybody who's Thai that you just called Taiwanese.

[Blake]

Okay.

[Adam]

Is that not what they're called? No.

[Ders]

Taiwan and Thailand are two different places, and you just called people from Thailand.

[Adam]

See, I didn't know that.

[Blake]

Oh, my God.

[Adam]

I didn't know that.

[Blake]

I thought they were the same place.

[Adam]

I thought they were the same.

[Blake]

Adam, come on.

[Ders]

You need to tie your tongue, young man.

[Adam]

I'm not great with geography. It means nothing.

[Blake]

Yeah, that's not even geography. That's an acknowledgment of a culture.

[Ders]

It's okay.

[Adam]

Yes. And. And they're in their geographical location and how to pronounce Their names.

[Blake]

Okay, so. All right, fair enough. Okay.

[Adam]

I'm not backing down. I'm not backing down.

[Blake]

I'm just.421.

[Ders]

I like. I like Blake's question. Adam, I respect your idea of, like, moments in time, but if you had to have a thing. Theme. If you had to have a theme.

[Adam]

If you have to.

[Ders]

Okay, what is the theme?

[Blake]

I'm thinking I got a really good one. I don't know if this would be mine, but it would be sick to have an entire.

[Ders]

Well, tell us yours, please.

[Blake]

Well, my question.

[Adam]

That's your question. And then he says, mike and Dave.

[Blake]

I mean, I. I could go two ways. I could go two way. I could go two ways. I could really lean into the Bay area of it. I could, like, see myself having, like, Ricky Henderson, Mac Dre, like, getting Will Forte, who was born in Oakland, in Lafayette.

[Ders]

What they calling the Bash Brothers.

[Blake]

The Bash Brothers.

[Adam]

Yeah. Tom Hanks, you get Jose KO you get his daughter on there as well. That's kind of creepy.

[Blake]

Yes. His sexy dog maybe have a little mosaic about, like, the Black Panthers, which could be really cool.

[Ders]

Get Jose, Cono's twin brother on there.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Blake]

Oh, of course. And then, like, on my forearms, it says Golden State, like, warrior. That could be pretty cool.

[Adam]

Okay, I guess. I don't know if cool.

[Ders]

Does it say Golden State or Golden State War?

[Blake]

No, it says Golden State on one arm, and it says warrior, and then it says warrior on this. Hold him like this.

[Adam]

It says Golden State warriors. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Blake]

Okay, so when I do get your roll on, you can read it. It's cool. Then I probably get, like, Mount Mount Diablo, like, on my heart or something and say, like, you know, and it's.

[Adam]

It's not Diablo.

[Blake]

We pronounce it Diablo out here.

[Adam]

And why do you mispronounce it?

[Blake]

That's just how we do it in the bay.

[Adam]

So someone mispronounced it in the bay, and then you guys decided to keep doing that?

[Ders]

I mean, we say Rodeo Drive. We say Rodeo Drive. These things happen.

[Blake]

Yes.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Blake]

And I'll be like, I'm on demon time because I was born on Devil Mountain or something. It'd be something sick in, like, a script. Something sick, bro. It'd be something really.

[Adam]

I think I. What's cool about us saying this? Because if. No matter. And when I explain mine, when Duras explains his. I wouldn't be friends with you guys if you had all those tattoos and whatever Ders is decision is, whatever tattoos he gets, I just wouldn't. Not that I'M not friends with people with tattoos, but I just know that if you're covered in Bay Area state warriors and you're just. You're head to toe. I'm just it. I would have at some point been like, allegedly. It's not clicking.

[Ders]

I know where you're coming from, but one of my best friends from childhood got fully sleeved, fully backed, and fully chested out and.

[Adam]

Are they all the same theme? Are they.

[Ders]

They're all the same style. They're all the same style.

[Blake]

Yeah. It's tight.

[Adam]

A style is a. I mean, you get it. So it doesn't look hodgepodgey, but, like,

[Blake]

you want one artist. You want one artist to do, like,

[Ders]

one is a portrait of his wife. One's a portrait of his grandfather.

[Blake]

That's cool.

[Ders]

A friend who died's name across then on the back, he's got like, the, like, screaming eagle on the forearm, and he's got, like, eagles on his back, so they kind of are the same.

[Adam]

A lot of eag.

[Ders]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Well, a lot of eagle based.

[Ders]

Or he's got. He's got an eagle or his shoulders.

[Blake]

That's tight, dude.

[Ders]

Okay, that's tight from last week.

[Adam]

It's something. And so I don't know if tight's the right word.

[Ders]

And we're still friends, but I know what you mean as far as, like. Yes, that's a lot of tattoos. I can't even look at you because I'm busy inspecting your body.

[Blake]

Yeah. You can find a lot of little hidden, secret ones.

[Adam]

And it's not even tattoos.

[Ders]

As I turn into, like, Sebastian Maniscalc, I don't know whether to talk to or read you.

[Blake]

Or read you. Silence, sustain.

[Ders]

Reedy. That's from elementary school.

[Adam]

I. I like to endur. Did it better.

[Ders]

Silent, sustained reading is a throwback. SSR shout out.

[Adam]

Perfect.

[Blake]

SSR shout out. Okay. Thank you, God. So I'm going full bay destrian.

[Ders]

You're going bay area.

[Blake]

Yeah. I think that's an easy call. I was going to say nwo, like old school wcw. But I think.

[Adam]

And see, family, I think is a good. I. I would just get my. An Hazel who would let me play with her, like, arm fat. When she would.

[Blake]

She.

[Ders]

She.

[Adam]

She had really droopy arms right here. And she let me pull it. Pull it down and squish it against my eyes as a young child.

[Blake]

Yeah. Silly.

[Adam]

So, like, that would be a fun tat. Just on my entire chest. I feel like that would really fly.

[Blake]

Okay. You wouldn't want.

[Adam]

So, like, a family thing. Could be cool. But I just knowing myself, I would just want to do, like, probably comedians.

[Blake]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[Ders]

So now we're asking

[Adam]

action hero.

[Blake]

Okay, wait, maybe you're doing a 90.

[Ders]

No, Adam, think about this. You don't want to do 90s action heroes on your body. You've got, like, Steven Seagal on your rib cage. What are you talking about? You don't really want that, dude.

[Adam]

I don't want to get any of these tattoos.

[Ders]

But if you have to, you don't want Dolph Lundgren on your thigh.

[Adam]

I would have made poor decisions. That's why Adam didn't get all that.

[Ders]

I'm giving you a chance to make the best decision.

[Blake]

I think the comedian one is a good route for you. I could see that.

[Ders]

Okay, that's better.

[Blake]

I can see that. Got like, Farley.

[Ders]

And now just name f. Name five comedians who you got.

[Adam]

You get Chris Rock. You get Jim Carrey.

[Kalpen (Cal Penn)]

Yes.

[Adam]

Do we.

[Ders]

Are we getting locations with these? Kevin locations?

[Blake]

Yeah. Where are you putting Chris Rock on your neck?

[Ders]

Chris Rock on your chest?

[Adam]

See, see, the thing is, is I don't want.

[Blake]

Wow, dude.

[Adam]

I don't even want to get these tattoos. Yeah, they're not. It's not going to age well.

[Blake]

Oh, Adam.

[Ders]

Adam.

[Blake]

Way to take a comedic stance, Adam. Wow. Real nuance, Adam. Real n. Nuanced comedy.

[Adam]

I'm a nuanced comedy.

[Blake]

Christ, man. Take a stage.

[Adam]

I feel like I would get. It would be a full back piece and maybe a collage of. Of all of them holding microphones, doing, like, Jim Carrey, Ace Ventura. You know, Chris Farley is gonna be up in the mix, dude.

[Blake]

Absolutely. A Chris Farley tat would go so hard.

[Adam]

Oh, yeah. Just full. Like Mark Foley. Mike Foley. Mike.

[Ders]

I love you guys.

[Adam]

Mike Foley.

[Blake]

I think it's Mike fell through the table. Amazing.

[Adam]

Who? I mean, who else? I probably. It depends on what age I got this tattoo. I might have gotten Sam Kennison.

[Blake]

No, you're missing one. You're missing one. He works with your buddy Kyle.

[Adam]

Well, Sandler. Sandler.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Ders]

But I don't want to go hodgepodge.

[Adam]

Basically the cast of SNL in, like, 1992-95.

[Blake]

That's cool. I like that. Yeah, I like that.

[Ders]

What do you think about this, Adam?

[Adam]

I'm just getting Nora done on my throat.

[Blake]

You're like, dude, I gotta do it, man. I'm a real completionist.

[Adam]

A sick Nora done tat right here.

[Blake]

I'm a completionist, and I don't want to leave anybody out. All right.

[Adam]

No one's left out.

[Ders]

No one's left out.

[Adam]

And a gas tire. A whole back piece.

[Blake]

That's not a bad.

[Adam]

Sprawled out out on my lower back. I just like this right over my ass. Over the humps.

[Ders]

Cherry o' Terry on your forearm for sure.

[Blake]

Taking some real estate. A Chris Katan.

[Adam]

Chris Katan would be. I make him dance like this.

[Ders]

Yeah.

[Blake]

Is he separate and is he in two pieces?

[Adam]

Yeah. No, no, no, no. Chris Katan, Terry. And then I make him dance like Petunia and Pete. And Pete.

[Blake]

You should have Cherry Oteri being the Spartan cheerleader. Oh, yeah.

[Adam]

Arrived. Well, didn't Chris Katan and Sherry O Terry do something?

[Blake]

I don't.

[Ders]

I just picture him being car.

[Adam]

You see, I'm not a big enough fan to get all these tattoos, so.

[Blake]

Well, you swing, you swung, you missed, but whatever.

[Ders]

Yeah.

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[Ders]

Adam what about this on the back like of your of your of your calves, you have like corn husks and then where like, the calf definition is that's like the corn going up the back of your calf. Corn Husker love.

[Adam]

I know. I know people from high school, multiple

[Ders]

people that have that.

[Adam]

That have. It looks like the skin flapped open the husk, and underneath it's just the. The corn husk.

[Ders]

That's so sick.

[Adam]

You're made of corn. And, you know, I love that. I did. I didn't love it when I saw it. I sort of laughed hysterically when I saw it. But, you know, that's. That's the thing. You make these poor decisions.

[Blake]

Is there. Is there?

[Ders]

What about that on your dick? Go ahead, Blake, Go ahead.

[Blake]

Is there symbolism to corn is like corn? Like, how is it, like, resilient?

[Ders]

Very straightforward. Midwest.

[Adam]

It's just being Midwestern,

[Ders]

right?

[Blake]

There isn't like, to it.

[Adam]

There's no symbolism to it. It's just like we're salt of the earth, corn fed.

[Blake]

A lot of corn is here.

[Adam]

America.

[Ders]

What do you. What do you want it to be? What. What could the bit be? What could the, like, double meaning?

[Blake]

Like, I'm thinking if there was some, like, native people and, like, corn, like, maybe symbolize something or like, honkies.

[Ders]

We're talking about the Native American.

[Adam]

No, no, no, no. Hold up.

[Ders]

No, no, we.

[Adam]

Corn were made of corn.

[Ders]

Yeah.

[Blake]

I just eat a lot of corn. Canned corn.

[Adam]

So. So that's me.

[Ders]

I would know what Omaha means. Yeah.

[Blake]

Come on.

[Adam]

Comedians. Well, the Bay Area also has a lot more stuff to, like, you could get MC Hammer, like, if. If I did like, an Omaha, Nebraska, there'd be like, three things I could possibly get. It's.

[Blake]

That's not a real.

[Adam]

You're not covering your body in these tattoos.

[Blake]

Right. It would be Larry the Cable Guy, obviously.

[Ders]

Yeah.

[Adam]

I get a tattoo of myself on my body.

[Ders]

That's bull.

[Blake]

It's kind of cool. That's kind of cool.

[Adam]

Yeah. The full Stevo style.

[Ders]

Yeah.

[Blake]

See? Okay, what is her name?

[Ders]

This is good for podcasting.

[Adam]

No.

[Ders]

Actress. Gabrielle. Gabrielle Union. Gabrielle Union.

[Adam]

Yeah. Get Gabrielle Union.

[Ders]

Yeah.

[Blake]

Legend. A legend. A legend.

[Adam]

JoJo siwa.

[Blake]

Oh, no.

[Adam]

Gotta get JoJo.

[Blake]

But you beat. You guys have beef?

[Adam]

Yeah, she sucks. She's the worst. Yeah, she actually sucks, but she sucks. But if. If I'm gonna get tattoos of Nebraskans on my body, you know, there's only a handful of us that become famous, so relatively Kumbaya. Is that really my dad?

[Ders]

Yes, I remember. I think I said, like, flag it to Todd.

[Adam]

It sounds like. Sounds incredible. Do it again.

[Blake]

Sorry, man. Hold on. I was Looking at something else.

[Ders]

Kumbaya.

[Blake]

I have another one of your dad too. That's pretty good.

[Ders]

Dick pics.

[Blake]

Did you hear that one?

[Adam]

Do I sound exactly like it?

[Blake]

Listen to this. Listen to this one.

[Ders]

It's almost like you're his son.

[Blake]

Dick pics.

[Ders]

Oh, yeah, that's a good one.

[Blake]

Fixed. Yeah. We got something.

[Adam]

One more time.

[Blake]

Oh, hold on, man. I keep leaving and you keep calling me back. Dick pics. There it is. We got a lot. We got a lot from your dad on the cruise.

[Ders]

Yeah, he gave a lot.

[Blake]

Okay, Ders, what's. What's yours? You haven't answered your. Your tattoo question, and I'm really wondering.

[Ders]

Waiting with bated breath. I think it would have to be. So there's a guy on the show Gigolos who has, like, you know, where people get their bodies, like, fully inked out, you know I'm talking about.

[Adam]

Yeah, yeah. Where they're head to toe tattooed.

[Ders]

Yeah. And to me, don't do that. It's so gnarly. I understand if you, like, had some tattoos about an ex or whatever, and you're like, just like, all right. It fully sleeve the arm, which just. It's totally black. And.

[Adam]

Yeah, Gigolos had, like, Daughtry. Chris Daughtry did that.

[Ders]

Yeah. Right.

[Blake]

Ankles.

[Ders]

Ankles up and then to, like, across his chest and one's arm. But then he had it, like, splashed across his, like, stomach and dick so it looked like he was being eaten by venom. The, like, Marvel. Yes, I would have to do that. And then I would do the faces of all the other guys on Gigolos, including the one who, like, murdered somebody if I had to.

[Adam]

No.

[Blake]

Okay.

[Ders]

You know, like I said, Adam, mistakes. Moment in time.

[Adam]

Wait. All right, so we. We answered this. We answered this sort of truthfully. What we would actually get if we had to. Blake, Bay area stuff. Me, I guess comedy. Because life's a bit. And then you die. Which is my life motto.

[Ders]

Donkey.

[Blake]

Yes. You say it constantly.

[Adam]

Because it's all I believe in. It's all I believe in.

[Blake]

Okay.

[Ders]

Okay.

[Adam]

It's science.

[Ders]

You wanna. You wanna real answer?

[Adam]

Yeah, real answer.

[Kalpen (Cal Penn)]

Let's.

[Adam]

We're taking deep on this.

[Blake]

Yeah. Come on, dude. For421. For421.

[Adam]

I might have to rip this.

[Blake]

Fire this up again.

[Ders]

I don't know if you guys are like this. Adam, you have a tattoo. Blake, you have none. Adam, you're not planning on getting another one. I'm like, I'm not anti tattoo, but there's just nothing that I'm Like. Like, oh, yeah, that's going on my body. But I guess if I had to do something. Yeah, it would be like, portraits of, like, wife, kids. Like, wake up. I don't know. Like, you got to go family.

[Adam]

There's no see that you can't up.

[Ders]

Especially, like a. A portrait of your kid when they're young. Here's where you're, like, 35. You're like. Like, remember when you were like, this little guy? Come here. Come here. I'm kissing you. I'm still kissing.

[Blake]

Here's where you can.

[Adam]

But then. But then you're gonna be. You're. You're gonna be all wrinkly, and your skin, you. You spend too much time outdoors. You're the skin. The. The sun damage.

[Blake]

It's gonna look like that's where you can. Up is like, nobody's gonna nail the portraits of your family the way you actually think they look. And it's gonna end up being, like, kind of like, why is this picture of me so up?

[Ders]

What are you talking about?

[Adam]

Even if they do a Great job, in 25 years, it will not look the same.

[Ders]

Okay, then I guess I would just do a full body mc Escher, staircases everywhere.

[Blake]

I don't know. HR Geiger. I think you'd get Geiger.

[Ders]

Oh, yeah. I would just do HR Geiger. Biomechanics all over my body or whatever.

[Adam]

Oh, my God. I stand by just getting little different. Different from different parts of your life and just getting little, like. Remember when I did that? I remember I was here when this happened. When this person died. I got their name over here, where it just looks like a little Etch A Sketch all over your body.

[Ders]

Can I just do a huge Elvira on my back?

[Blake]

I like that, dude.

[Adam]

Okay, now you're talking. Now you're making sense.

[Ders]

That's what I would do. Now I feel like Elvira. Tattoos are absolutely banners.

[Adam]

All right, dude, remember how hot Elvira was? I told you, dude.

[Blake]

She. Yeah, she's still big.

[Adam]

And I don't even like women.

[Ders]

Like women.

[Adam]

I love women. I. I don't like the darkness. You know what I mean? I don't like when girls are, like, super witchy. I just want you some.

[Blake]

Really? You don't like goth? You don't like a goth band babe?

[Adam]

No.

[Blake]

Oh, I think goth babes are hot, dude.

[Adam]

Usually I don't, but then Elvira.

[Ders]

Yeah, it's. There's something about her.

[Blake]

I don't know.

[Ders]

I can't really put my mouth on it.

[Adam]

Finger on it.

[Ders]

I know. Exactly. But there's something about her that just presents itself.

[Adam]

You got to give points for the mouth, dude.

[Blake]

Sorry, sorry, sorry. Come on, man. Jesus.

[Adam]

Yes, points. I know it's not a pun, but that's just great wordplay.

[Ders]

Didn't I send you guys a goth thing the other day where it was like these five girls working at like a fast food place?

[Blake]

Yes, it was a donut shop.

[Adam]

I didn't.

[Ders]

And they were like, what was it?

[Blake]

Oh, remember?

[Adam]

They were like, is this a side chat that you guys are.

[Blake]

No, you were on it show Adam. You were on it. And it was like.

[Ders]

And then I left social media after that. I was like, I gotta go now.

[Blake]

That was your last post. It was good. It was like these five goth babes, like, working at a Dunkin Donuts or something, and they're all like, explaining their favorite donut. They're like. They're like deep throating each donut.

[Ders]

They're like, face fucking donuts. And they're all like, suicide girls. I think Suicide, Really? I wonder what it's like in the

[Adam]

community when they're like, I forgot about that. Suicide girls. What was that again?

[Ders]

But wait, hang on, hang on.

[Adam]

I'm sorry, go ahead.

[Ders]

It's basically like sexy goth. And I wonder what that is in the community. If they're like, I'm not suicide, I'm goth. Or if goth girls are like, I'm goth, but really they're like, no, you're suicide. Okie dokie.

[Blake]

Yeah, I. Well, goth is more.

[Adam]

I like that you said the community when just talking about goth.

[Ders]

I'm just wondering.

[Blake]

Goth is the word. Is the word macabre. Is that the word?

[Adam]

It's more like that is a word.

[Ders]

Midnight. Midnight Macabre is what Elvira hosted.

[Blake]

Yes. I think it's more like like darkness and. And. Whereas, like, you know, Joy Division, the. This is the, like burning candles, you know, gargoyles.

[Adam]

Yeah, see, this is the. That. That absolutely doesn't turn me on. You know, darkness, spooky.

[Blake]

No. Yeah, like.

[Adam]

Like cats, crystal balls, potions.

[Blake]

Well, that's just.

[Adam]

What are we doing?

[Blake]

No, I'm talking more like poetry, baby.

[Adam]

Like, poetry is an all emo.

[Blake]

Emo is. This is a. Is a subset of goth. I think it can be.

[Adam]

And that's about as far as I can go. This I. Some emo music. I. I was just the right age that it. It hit me just right. So some I can be on board with.

[Blake]

But that's not real goth to me though.

[Adam]

The second you get off of, like, the pop, punky, like, emo.

[Blake]

No, I'm talking, like, Bow House. The Cure. Freaking.

[Adam]

Okay, well, I like the Cure.

[Blake]

Like, I'm talking early goth.

[Adam]

I also wouldn't want to hang out with that guy. What?

[Blake]

Why not?

[Adam]

What was his name? The lead?

[Ders]

Robert.

[Adam]

Robert Smith. Smith. What a bummer of a hang. That guy.

[Blake]

No, he's hella funny.

[Ders]

No, I think he's hella funny. Yeah, he's just like, look at all this makeup and hair.

[Adam]

Oh, so life's a bit. And then you die. Yes, and then you die. Very maab.

[Blake]

Yes.

[Ders]

Abra macabre.

[Blake]

A lot of these. Okay, sure. A lot of these macabre people.

[Adam]

Yes. Points.

[Blake]

Have a good sense of humor.

[Adam]

Okay, well, okay, okay. So life. I get it now. Life's a bit. And then you die. Okay, now. Now it all makes sense.

[Ders]

Speaking of 90s SNL. 90s SNL. One of the funniest running bits to me was Chris Katan in the basement. And then Jim Brewer would come down as, like, the big brother. Yeah.

[Blake]

Remember, they're doing, like, a public access show.

[Ders]

He's like, it's Azrael. Yeah.

[Blake]

And then Jim Bro Brewer comes down. He's like, what the. What are you doing down here? Like, what would he do? He'd like, are you filming your little show or whatever.

[Adam]

Like the stepbrother or something? Or the older brother.

[Ders]

Exactly. He'd be like, dude, you drive a Toyota Camry. Like, yeah.

[Adam]

Ride a black horse to school.

[Blake]

That is an all time sketch.

[Ders]

Chris Katan. Oh, bro.

[Blake]

I was actually. Man, a lot of that is just, like, very legendary comedy. It's a great. It's a great tattoo. I actually was on set the other

[Ders]

day, by the way.

[Blake]

Go ahead. Go ahead who?

[Ders]

No, no, no, no.

[Blake]

Tim Meadows, dude. Such a legend, man. Such a hilarious, funny dude.

[Ders]

I followed him around a mall 20 years ago in Chicago at the Water Tower place. I saw him and I was like, I'm gonna just follow him.

[Adam]

He's in the street. You're just staring at him as he's kind of Foot Locker.

[Ders]

I went into, like, two or three stores that he was in to just be like. Like, give me that osmosis.

[Adam]

For sure. He was like, these kids are following me.

[Blake]

Yeah, he's trying to, like, shake you. He's going to the bathroom. You're falling.

[Adam]

How is he? I mean, you're not gonna dog on him in real life, but how is he kind of a in. Is he a. No, no. He seems like the best. He's really rad and, like, A sweet person. Is. Is he just like the most normal guy you've ever met? Because he seems like one of those guys that's super normal, but then can snap into his role or character.

[Blake]

Yeah, well, you know, he. He never played, like, really, like, out there, zany characters. I feel like Tim Meadows is always like a version of himself. So he's just. He's just a naturally funny dude. He loves basketball. He's just. Yeah, he's a great hang. Seems like a cool dude.

[Adam]

I like that.

[Ders]

I feel like he was the first to do the. So let me get this straight. Like, if he was a straight man and someone did a crazy thing, he'd be like. Like, you're going to go on the roof and you're going to do this thing, and you think that's normal. And it was funnier than the funny person.

[Adam]

Yeah, he was getting laughs as being the straight man, which was cool.

[Ders]

Like, Seth Meyers kind of does that now on his talk show when people come on and are wiling out. He's like, okay, so you're. You're eating Chinese food inside of a hamburger. Yes. No, totally normal.

[Adam]

Seth has that bit where he has a guy in the audience who's like, oh, wait, wait, wait. Hang on, hang on, hang on, Seth. You're telling me that we're not even gonna celebrate the second. It was 23 years ago today that Spice Girls came out with and then whatever song. You're telling me that we're not gonna celebrate that? He's like, no, I didn't think we were gonna celebrate that. Yeah. So he does, like a straight man thing. I like that.

[Ders]

But just repeating the situation out loud to the audience and crushing doing that. I feel like that was. Tim Meadows created that.

[Blake]

Yeah, he's a goat.

[Adam]

The bummer about Tim Meadows, because wasn't he. He had, like, the record for the longest tenure.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Adam]

On snl.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Adam]

And then Keenan Thompson.

[Blake]

Keenan absolutely shattered it. He's still literate. He iterated it.

[Ders]

It.

[Adam]

I wonder if. If he was a little bit like.

[Blake]

He. He mentioned it, but it didn't seem like he was too bitter. But he definitely, like. I forgot that Tim Meadows was.

[Adam]

You were on set with him for, like a day, and he. And he brought it up.

[Ders]

I can't believe I'm here and not just still on snl. Huh?

[Blake]

We were all trapped in a trailer for, like, 12 hours. So we covered a lot of stuff, but of course, SNL got brought. And anytime you talk to, like, an SNL castmate about snl, it's the most intriguing stuff to listen.

[Adam]

Listen to.

[Blake]

It really is, because the lore is just insane, man.

[Ders]

Tell us one thing.

[Adam]

Well, they all talk like. Like they were at war.

[Blake]

Yes, they were at war.

[Adam]

But then it was an awesome war.

[Blake]

Yeah, but also. But also, bodies were falling. They wake up having nightmares to this day about, like, going live. It's such an interesting. Because they also. We were talking about. I didn't realize they started up a SNL uk. Now there's like a whole new SNL

[Ders]

Miami or some.

[Blake]

Yeah, but people were kind of weirded out about it because the first host was Tina Fey, and they're like, wait, so you're just getting American people to do snl? It's kind of like, couldn't you get somebody else?

[Adam]

Have you guys watched any of it or.

[Blake]

I have not seen it yet.

[Ders]

I watched her opening monologue. It was pretty funny.

[Blake]

But, I mean, it seems like a good idea.

[Adam]

That's great.

[Blake]

I mean, why.

[Adam]

Yeah, it seems like there's a ton of really funny people over there.

[Blake]

And there should be snl. I feel like one SNL Thailand.

[Adam]

The fact that they did. Are those, well, you know, two different places. It sort of just seems like Lauren is on his way out and he's like, maybe now is the time that I just make 10 of these shows and.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Adam]

And retire.

[Blake]

Let's just set it off in the world.

[Ders]

I mean, I think they're just trying to make more clips. Right. Like, because that's what it's come down to. No more clip farming. We're clip farming. Right. We're just. Or farming for clubs.

[Blake]

The. It's so weird because, like, think of shows like the Daily show or snl. I don't watch any of those. Okay. I just watch them on. On YouTube. I just watch clips on YouTube. I don't sit down and watch episodes of either of those. It's very.

[Ders]

I like to listen to the theme song. I like to watch the credits in the end, give people their kudos.

[Blake]

I like that. That's huge.

[Ders]

No, I'm with you. I watch it on. On YouTube as well.

[Blake]

I feel like as it.

[Ders]

As soon as Jon Stewart says his, like, final word, it ends with the song coming in so hard. Like, did you want to watch these?

[Blake]

You're like, oh, you're like falling asleep. It wakes you up in a sweat.

[Ders]

Crazy how funny he is. It's just.

[Blake]

Oh, yeah.

[Ders]

It's a whole nother level.

[Blake]

Jon Stewart's awesome.

[Adam]

Yeah. And is he about done doing it? He. Because he quit for a long Time and then came back.

[Ders]

He does once a week. He does once a week.

[Blake]

Yeah. It's a light lift.

[Adam]

Lift.

[Blake]

It's a light lift for your boy, but he slays it every time.

[Adam]

Oh, so it's still the Daily Show. It's just he only comes in once a week.

[Ders]

Mondays, I think. Yeah.

[Adam]

And didn't he try to do another show that was basically exactly like the Daily show and it didn't catch on?

[Ders]

It wasn't basically like the Daily Show.

[Adam]

It.

[Ders]

I remember watching it and being like, okay, so we're like, in the writers room. And then they'd be like, that's an interesting thing. And then it would, like, look like. Cut to kind of a news magazine section of that. Like, explore that.

[Blake]

Okay.

[Adam]

It.

[Ders]

I don't know. It seemed like a little bit of,

[Adam]

like, in the same way that the Daily show clicks.

[Ders]

I don't know. I. I think it was a little bit of like, there's an old guy in a room with a bunch of young people, and the young people are like, this is what you need to be talking about. And him going, yeah, all right. And maybe it is that in real life. But, like, it just didn't seem, like, as fluid, right?

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Ders]

Didn't seem like all these people really liked each other. Like, if we had our writers room on air, it was us. It was this podcast. Ish.

[Adam]

It's exactly this.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Adam]

So it's exactly this.

[Ders]

It'd be a little more enjoyable getting, like, a guy with a few other people being, like, bouncing ideas. I don't know. I don't remember.

[Adam]

Anna was saying it was called the Weekly show with Jon Stewart.

[Ders]

Okay.

[Blake]

So it was almost exactly the same thing. Thing.

[Adam]

Yeah. It's basically the exact same thing.

[Blake]

I like that. I like that a lot. I don't even remember that at all. I very much did not.

[Ders]

Yeah, I think it came and went. It was around. It was here, and then it wasn't notice me, senpai.

[Adam]

Notice me, Notice me.

[Ders]

And now. Now that we're talking about, it might. Might make a good full body tattoo.

[Blake]

Yeah. I'm starting to think who were all of the Daily show correspondence, because you definitely get bro. Well, but who. Can you name all the Daily show correspondence? They were pretty good.

[Adam]

Oh, look, they're also saying there was another show called the Problem with Jon Stewart.

[Ders]

I think that's what I'm talking about is the problem with Jon Stewart.

[Adam]

The problem.

[Ders]

And so I think they would sit around talking about the problem.

[Adam]

That's annoying.

[Blake]

Like, the problem. The problem in, like, America, wherever.

[Ders]

Wherever, man. Do you think there's problems in America, you socialist trader. You're with two watch guys. You better watch your ass.

[Blake]

My bad Joe. My bad Joe.

[Adam]

Dude, I, I did try to watch the news the other day and show. It shook me. I was like, oh, I haven't like just sat and watched and it wasn't like CNN or Fox where they, you. They're. They're just going down their own rabbit holes. It was like the ABC News where it was just like headlines, the host is crying. I'm living in a nightmare telling you what. That's what's happening in that episode. And they just give you like four things in a row. And I'm like, is, is it always this?

[Blake]

Oh my God, honey.

[Adam]

Yeah. News is very scary.

[Blake]

It's very charged.

[Adam]

I don't get why old people like watching it. If I'm old, old people love the news. If I'm old, you're not going to catch me watching the news. I've already, I've already won at that point. I'm at the end of my life. I don't need to know what's going to happen.

[Blake]

I'm gonna do what my parents do and just watch. Right? All the, all the game shows. Game shows are where it's at.

[Adam]

I want Drew head in the sand. That's, that's what this guy's going to be. Head in the sand.

[Blake]

Nothing better than a game show, man. Bring it back.

[Ders]

Why do they like the news so much?

[Adam]

Old people?

[Ders]

Yeah. Is it cuz they feel disconnected? So they want to feel connected by watching?

[Adam]

Yeah. I mean, that's a good theory. I think it's science.

[Ders]

You don't go to work and like

[Adam]

there's no cuts to the core of

[Blake]

people like that, man.

[Ders]

Not that there's any water cooler anymore, but like they used to go to work, they'd clock in and see people

[Adam]

and go, now they're retired.

[Ders]

And now they're like, what's happening? You know, the straight of her moods.

[Adam]

Deeper into sports, Right? Because then you could still go to your. Whatever bar or where you go to play cards or whatever thing that you do. You can still have a thing to talk about, right? I think, like, yes.

[Ders]

I think they haven't become too racist. They still talk about sports.

[Adam]

Yeah. Yes.

[Blake]

That is the way to go.

[Adam]

Once you get too racist, you might even talk more sports.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Blake]

Let's go more.

[Ders]

That's a full body tap.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Now that's a full body.

[Blake]

So. So underneath the corn is another layer which is just racism, huh?

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Hey, everyone, it's Cal Penn. I'm the host of Earsay, the Audible, and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook project, Hail Mary, Massive sci fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone, very far from Earth.

[Adam]

I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections. And it's like, okay, yo, yo, yo. Is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like, no. At this point, it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story. If I don't go through it, the. There's places in this book that. That deeply, emotionally affected me, and I left it on the mic. That's great because it served the story. People will say, like, oh, my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too.

[Kalpen (Cal Penn)]

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[Blake]

wherever you get your podcasts.

[Adam]

I wonder if you could get this as a tad. You know those iPad drawings where they. Where you can keep zooming in and find, like, little Easter eggs and keeps going, which I think is objectively really cool.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Adam]

You get an iPad installed in your back shown. Installed into your back. So then they could keep doing that,

[Blake]

Right, dude, A touch screen. Right?

[Ders]

Adam, at the beginning of this, did you say, I don't know if they could do this,

[Blake]

dude, A touch screen.

[Ders]

I don't know if they could do this.

[Adam]

I don't know, but I. Happy 421.

[Blake]

Imagine, dude. Imagine freaking hitting the doggy style and you're playing Flappy Bird. What?

[Ders]

I wish I knew what that was. Yeah.

[Adam]

69. Dude.

[Kalpen (Cal Penn)]

Hey, Blake.

[Ders]

What? Dude, Imagine. Imagine, dude. Blake might be the most in the manosphere.

[Adam]

What are you talking about?

[Blake]

I thought you were saying.

[Adam]

What the is Flappy Bird?

[Blake]

Dude, you remember Flappy Bird Bird? It was an app.

[Ders]

Never played an app in my life.

[Blake]

You guys never played Flappy Bird? Are you guys insane?

[Adam]

Flappy Bird?

[Blake]

Yeah, it's where you would tap it and make the bird float. And you had to float between, like. You guys don't Play games.

[Adam]

No, dude.

[Blake]

You guys sound absolutely.

[Ders]

Adam, you did Fruit Ninja. Adam, you did Fruit Ninja, right?

[Blake]

It's absolutely insane. You don't know what's happening.

[Adam]

The year was 2000.

[Blake]

What?

[Adam]

Whatever. 13. When I did Fruit Ninja.

[Blake]

Flappy Bird is pretty old, dude. It's like around the same time as Angry Birds.

[Adam]

Okay. Do you remember that gameplay? I remember that because they made multiple

[Blake]

movies, but Flappy Bird was a. A massive.

[Adam]

Now did Flappy Bird get a movie?

[Blake]

Needs one. No, cuz he can't do Angry Birds, which I'm just putting together. They're both bird games, which is very odd.

[Adam]

Yeah. How much time and money do you think you've wasted playing phone app games?

[Blake]

I have not. I've always only played, like, free games. I think the only time I ever, like, put money into it is I was playing some weird, like, Marvel card game, and I ended up, like, paying 10 bucks to get, like, Wolverine or some. Which would be sick.

[Ders]

I was hoping for something a little more entertaining. Yeah. And then how much and maybe time. Is time entertaining?

[Adam]

Or is time, I think is.

[Blake]

Yeah, I used to. Well, when I would work out, ride the bike or whatever, I would just play. I would just play, like, phone games for sure.

[Adam]

While you're riding the bike, you're. You have. You're going so slow that you can play a game?

[Blake]

No, I'm going fast. I can do both of it.

[Ders]

Dude.

[Blake]

I can do both. I can text while I. I can text while I run.

[Adam]

Well, you slow down.

[Blake]

Not really.

[Ders]

No, not this.

[Adam]

You're not going your fastest, but I really, really. You could go full speed. You're telling me. You're telling me you can go full speed?

[Blake]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam]

And you can blast off a text.

[Ders]

I'll be home in 20 minutes, period.

[Blake]

Absolutely.

[Ders]

Make sure that you just leave out the bread, period.

[Adam]

Do you voice text, Blake? Do you voice text? I can see you not.

[Blake]

I've never voice text in my life. I hate voice text. I want it off my phone.

[Adam]

And is it because you're. You want to be young forever?

[Blake]

No, I just don't. Don't. I just don't like it. I. I don't like.

[Adam]

Because I feel like such an old man, but I've started to do it maybe within the last, like, year to two years.

[Blake]

Oh, also, it bugs me to hear people doing it in public. It kind of pisses me off. I find it very, like, rude.

[Ders]

Well, I think that's interesting. That's a take. Hey. Yeah, I'm sorry. I don't want to It's a take. We love it.

[Kalpen (Cal Penn)]

You're not going to.

[Blake]

Stupid dumbass.

[Adam]

I don't. I mean, why is that rude? It's just like they're. It's like they're talking to somebody. Someone.

[Blake]

No, it's just like. Like, if it's business stuff or. I just don't want to hear it.

[Ders]

I. I agree. If there's a certain. If there's a certain level to the

[Adam]

volume, but no time and place, I'm always quiet.

[Ders]

If I'm on the plane, I'm, like, taking off now, period. Love you, period. I promise I won't die, period.

[Blake]

I don't need to hear that. Like, yeah, okay. Yes, I will get the kids and then also pick up taco meat, period.

[Ders]

Like, I. Yeah, that's great.

[Adam]

Yeah, I like how you got scared and threw a in there. Yeah, like, you got scared there. You didn't know what to say, so you said, taco me.

[Ders]

Adam, you're saying texting is a young person's game. Because I feel like the young person's thing is not voice to text. And it's not typing a text. It's sending voice notes.

[Blake]

Dude, that.

[Adam]

People send me voice notes. That is cool all the time.

[Ders]

Diabolical, by the way.

[Adam]

Don't even know how to do it. I've. I've tried several times.

[Blake]

It's impossible.

[Kalpen (Cal Penn)]

Possible.

[Blake]

It's impossible.

[Adam]

It's impossible to do, but voice notes

[Blake]

is a complete game changer.

[Ders]

You like that? Over. So now what you're doing is.

[Adam]

Now I have somebody.

[Ders]

Hey, listen, wherever you are, you need to listen to this out loud.

[Adam]

Yes. So then they have to listen to it or it's the ultimate. Your ear, which is, by the way, who even does that anymore? And then I don't like the ones that. It'll disappear here. Like, you listen to it once and it'll disappear.

[Blake]

Yeah, that's inferior. Well, okay, but that's kind of the fun of.

[Adam]

Maybe that's why they're doing info in there.

[Ders]

Maybe that's why they do it.

[Blake]

I think that is. I think that is why there's no evidence of what they said to.

[Adam]

Evidence.

[Ders]

Because I'm like, did you just call me a. And then they're like, I don't know. Did I? No one will ever know. To me, it's the ultimate, like, not only am I too lazy to type it, I'm too lazy to, like, say it out loud and then read it back. Back proofreading before I send it to you.

[Blake]

Oh, you're saying I'm just, I'm just

[Ders]

sending you a stream of consciousness. That's, that should be a phone call. Just make it a phone call.

[Blake]

True. Like leave a message. But I'll be honest. If you leave a.

[Ders]

No, not leave a message, call me.

[Blake]

Well, if I don't pick up, like

[Ders]

if, if I text you back. I know, but like if you're in a conversation with somebody who keeps sending you voice memos and you're going like, haha, that is crazy. Yeah, I know. You mean I'll see you later today. And they keep voiced. I'm like, call me, call me.

[Blake]

I'll say this. If someone does, if someone does call you and you don't pick it up and it goes to voicemail. I don't even listen to voicemails. If you leave me a voicemail.

[Ders]

Well, no, yeah, that's, I like to leave voicemails.

[Adam]

I like.

[Ders]

Because who does it.

[Adam]

I like when my close friends give me a call. Which by the way, doesn't happen that often.

[Blake]

Absolutely.

[Adam]

You know, every once in a while it's nice to just reach out and, and just talk.

[Ders]

Takes a lung surgery.

[Adam]

Yeah. Just talk to somebody.

[Blake]

God damn. Yeah, God damn. Sometimes you just need to pick up the damn phone.

[Adam]

Yeah, just pick up the phone. Dude, don't send her to voicemail. That's our I get if it's a work thing. Voicemail all day. I'm not trying to talk to you, Isaac. You know that's true.

[Ders]

That's true. Yeah.

[Adam]

Any takebacks, any apologies? Any epic slams?

[Blake]

I guess our 421 message day, bro, everybody is pick up the phone and call your friend.

[Adam]

And call your friend and then get a full body tattoo based on that call. So you better have some fun topics. What else can we do during that conversation? I just want to party.

[Ders]

Yeah, and maybe, maybe throw a voice memo to Blake in the dms.

[Blake]

Okay.

[Ders]

By the way, definitely if you send me those, which I think I've gotten in the past, they're immediately deleted. Never even listened to.

[Adam]

Wow.

[Blake]

I listen, okay? I listen. So feel free. Come on in.

[Ders]

Well, sure, I'll read something, but if it's a voice memo. No, that seems like an invasion of my body.

[Adam]

You're going in because it's like you're hearing.

[Ders]

It goes inside my ears, into my ears. I can't unhear.

[Adam]

Okay, shut the up.

[Ders]

When you read something, there's, there's a disconnect.

[Adam]

I, I, I don't know if I've really ever gotten those, but maybe I have. Maybe I'm just Stoned, man.

[Ders]

I send them to you.

[Adam]

Happy 421, boys.

[Blake]

Well done.

[Adam]

Do you have any 420 memories? Did you 420 in high school or. You didn't really smoke that much weed in high school, right? Blakey, I know everyone thinks that you're a stoner, but you're not. No.

[Blake]

I more found my hair, my. My lungs in. In college, in Africa.

[Adam]

Okay. When you met me.

[Blake]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to scrape the resin from the. From the pipe.

[Ders]

How many. Let me ask you guys this. In college, how many times did Adam shotgun into your mouth? Blazer thing sucks.

[Adam]

I'd say zero times, right? I wasn't shotgunning.

[Ders]

What? What? Because people would be like, it gets you higher. And so, like, someone would take a rip, they'd get as close as Adam, and I didn't kiss this, and then they would just blow it into their mouth.

[Adam]

Think that that's.

[Blake]

It's supposed to be a boy.

[Adam]

Chicks to dudes or dudes to chicks? I don't know how many, like, homie to homie shotguns.

[Blake]

I think I saw. I think I saw Kyle and Adam do it, but I never did.

[Adam]

I don't.

[Blake]

I was never that de.

[Adam]

I don't think you did.

[Ders]

I feel like I was constantly doing it with teachers.

[Blake]

Okay. Don't get.

[Adam]

Yeah. The. The idea of getting, like. I mean, that's just not having a lot of weed, right? So you're trying to get as high as you possibly can with the smallest amount of weed. Because I had a. A homie that was always like. He had, like, this plastic sheet, basically, and he would always want you to get underneath it to, like, trap it

[Blake]

in, like, a tarp.

[Adam]

Like a tarp.

[Ders]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Sorry.

[Ders]

Sorry.

[Adam]

It was a tarp. A tarp, and to climb underneath. So then. Then all the weed smoke would stay under the tarp, and then you'd get super extra high. But I'm like, dude, every time you go over there, he's wanting to do this. I'm like, man, I don't really want to get under the tarp at this guy again. But he was. But he was smoking his weed with us. We never brought weed over there. It was always. He would smoke us out. But then me and Austin would have to get under the tarp.

[Ders]

Clear tarp or blue tarp?

[Adam]

Still gonna send it? It was a blue tarp.

[Blake]

Sharp. Yeah. That's uncomfortable.

[Ders]

If it's clear, I feel like you can at least look at your homie.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Blake]

Then it's like.

[Ders]

Or you can see the Door you can remember like, okay, doors over there.

[Blake]

That's like American Psycho.

[Adam]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ders]

Happy 420.

[Blake]

American Sick, though.

[Adam]

Happy 420.

[Kalpen (Cal Penn)]

Hell yeah.

[Adam]

Any tape racks, any apologies, any epic slams here.

[Ders]

I got nothing. Apologies to the Taiwanese community for being lumped in with the land of Thai. Smoke weed every day.

[Adam]

I'm sorry. I'm. I'm so sorry. And I feel horrible. Yeah, I really do. But it was an honest mistake.

[Blake]

That's all right.

[Adam]

I didn't. I didn't mean anything by it.

[Ders]

It reminds me of how, like, the Netherlands is also Holland, but they're also Dutch. So it's. Yeah, that basically it's their fault.

[Adam]

See, that's confusing. I would. I'm. I'm confused by that.

[Blake]

That.

[Adam]

I'm really confused.

[Blake]

They got to make it a little more clear.

[Ders]

Yeah, they do. For sure they do.

[Adam]

Dude, Isaac, are you saying we've only been going for 45 minutes? That is not true, dude.

[Ders]

No, we've been going for 59 minutes. Oh, in a. In 10 seconds. It's going to be an hour.

[Adam]

Oh, my God.

[Blake]

Should we wait?

[Adam]

Should we wait?

[Ders]

3, 2, 1.

[Adam]

And that's another episode of. Of.

[Blake]

This is important.

[Ders]

See, I smoke weed every day.

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[Ders]

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[Adam]

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[Blake]

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