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Blake
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Adam
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Ders
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Blake
what's up y'?
Adam
All?
Blake
Summer's got a different tempo. Everything's a little looser, brighter.
Ders
One plan turns into another. You hear something, you stay a little longer. Next thing you know, you're somewhere you didn't plan to be. It's those in between moments.
Blake
That's where the ideas hit. Conversations stretch out. Little memories.
Ders
Memories sneak up on you.
Blake
Sometimes it's just about what's in your hand. That color, that chill. The new Tropical Butterfly Refresher from Starbucks. Guava and passion fruit flavors with mango pineapple flavored pearls. Yeah, that feels like summer before you even taste it.
Ders
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Blake
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Kalpen
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Adam
Welcome to this Is Important, a production of iHeartRadio, the show where we talk about what's obviously most critically, crucially important. Today on this Is Important.
Blake
It's getting harder. And it's only gonna get harder. And I'm only gonna get harder.
Adam
Build it and I will come.
Ders
I don't understand why all the AI Po. Everything has a dick.
Adam
Let's go.
Blake
It's that time again.
Adam
Welcome back.
Blake
Hey, everybody. Time to go big. It's time to go big.
Adam
Two episodes in a row, man.
Blake
Big. It's not stopping. This is a lifestyle for all my big sippers out there. It's time to go big. Time to go big.
Adam
That's okay. Another day, another sips with a Z. Still not getting paid. Still not getting paid.
Blake
Go big, everybody. Everybody keep going big. Okay.
Adam
Oh, my gosh.
Ders
He does it for the love of the art and the children.
Adam
What flavor that was? Durst, I know you're waiting for someone to ask you what's going on over there, so I guess we'll get it
Blake
out of the way, right?
Adam
Up top.
Blake
You look very anonymous. What's going on? Are you.
Adam
What's. What's going on?
Blake
You're starting to hack people's computers or.
Ders
Yeah, actually, didn't even need you to bring it up, but.
Blake
What? It's science.
Ders
I guess it's too late.
Adam
Yeah. What. What is going on?
Blake
Are you good? You good? Or are you trying on the mysterious vibe?
Ders
Sometimes you just got to switch things up. You know what I mean?
Blake
Honestly? Dur. I feel this. I feel this. I've been thinking. I want to start to pivot to a little more mysterious. Like, I feel like I'm too out there. It's, like, coming off a little dorky. Maybe getting.
Ders
We agree.
Adam
Yeah, maybe, like.
Blake
Maybe, like, introspect a little bit.
Ders
We're right there with you.
Blake
Yeah. Maybe it's time to just say less, you know?
Ders
But, like.
Adam
No, Blake, you. You're saying. You're saying so less. Okay, you hardly ever talk.
Ders
I'm giving you a chance.
Adam
Well, you talk, but you don't have opinions on things, so you'd be like, ah, it's fine.
Blake
Yeah, I talk way more than I. Than I would like to. I'd like to be very mysterious. I'd like people not to really know where I'm coming from, you know? Like, really.
Adam
I guess. I mean, for a podcast. I think the whole point is for people to know where you're coming from.
Blake
I don't know. I'm. I might take a oath of silence. Who knows?
Ders
Here's a look.
Adam
Okay, so it's just.
Blake
It's just you're 200.
Adam
What? Dude, please explain. You can't just keep doing this.
Blake
Goodbye.
Adam
If you're watching this on Netflix, maybe you understand what's going on. I'm watching it right now, and I don't. And if you're listening.
Ders
You have.
Adam
You truly have no idea.
Blake
Well, it's.
Ders
He's wearing fully hooded, and this is just a perfect example of Adam just not having control. He doesn't understand it. He has to call it out.
Blake
He doesn't allow us to be mysterious. Why do we have to be so opinionated and out there?
Ders
How about I be me, you be you. Bada bing, bada boom. Forget about it.
Adam
I want to ride.
Blake
That's true, dude. Well, he does have a point. If all three of us just put
Ders
on a fucking windbreaker. I'm sorry, what were you wearing the other day with the giant fucking hat? I just have the hood up because I do.
Adam
Yeah, but you were very quiet. You're being all mysterious. I just wanted to know, like, is there a backstory to this mysterioso complex that you have?
Blake
He's just vibing.
Ders
Oh, Mr. Hollywood Executive. It doesn't need a backstory. It just is what it is.
Blake
He's just vibing. There's no mythology, but Adam is right. If we're all mysterious, it will be a pretty boring podcast because it is audio. Unless you're watching on Netflix, which we support that.
Adam
In which case it still might be
Blake
a boring podcast if we're all just kind of quiet.
Adam
All just quiet, being mysterious, sort of brooding.
Ders
So do you need the hood down?
Adam
I don't need that. You get. No, no, you keep the hood up. I just didn't know if you were doing, like, a bit or a character this episode or, like, what you were doing.
Ders
I. I had a character, but forget it now. That's right.
Adam
It seemed like you had a character and were ready to go with something because you catch doing, like, this, and, like, yeah, you are like, oh, is he a boxer?
Ders
I think I just was here. That's what it is.
Adam
Yeah, you were, like, not showing your eyes, but then you kind of were doing, like, little jabs.
Blake
And also, he's doing. Yeah, you don't wear hoods a lot. You're, like, not really a hoodie guy. You kind of just like collars or windbreaker. No hood.
Ders
All right, so, you guys, this is the mastermind behind. We got. We got to talk about something. I put up a hood. Now suddenly you guys can't shut up, and we got 10 minutes in the bank.
Blake
Gotcha, bitch.
Ders
Okay.
Blake
Wow. Thank you, thank you, thank you for that premium content. This is real mud.
Adam
You're.
Ders
Well, this is what Netflix.
Adam
Why? Why? They shelled out the cash for us so we could be on their platform. They're Like, I hope Ders puts on a hood and it doesn't say much. This is important.
Blake
God damn, that shit's important.
Ders
Adam. The. The brilliance is, Adam. They would have never thought of it.
Adam
Yeah, that's true.
Blake
Oh, God, of course not.
Ders
This is what I bring to the table.
Adam
The algorithm. The algorithm would not have thought of that. It would not have thought of that.
Blake
The goddamn algorithm.
Ders
And by the way, don't you kind of want to watch a podcast where a guy looks like this the whole time? Like, see ya.
Blake
It. Wait, you know.
Ders
You know Sia, her hair just is like this.
Adam
Yeah.
Blake
Oh, oh, yes. You're speaking of the artist Sia, who had like that huge bang. Crazy. Yeah. What happened to Sia?
Ders
Yeah, I'm talking about freaking Sia.
Adam
Well, she was just on an episode of. Of Company Retreat. What?
Blake
Wait, what?
Adam
Jury Duty. Company Retreat.
Blake
Oh, did she pull up?
Ders
Freaking.
Adam
See, she pulled up in the episode. Yeah. Dude, you got.
Blake
I haven't watched the new season.
Adam
Oh, you got to watch it. It's great.
Blake
You loving it. Really? You're. You're a fan.
Adam
I actually. Jake Samansky, who directed every. Every. Every episode.
Blake
Yes. We love him.
Adam
He asked me to host there. They're like Emmy's campaign.
Blake
Okay.
Adam
Brunch or whatever. It was.
Blake
Yeah.
Adam
Sick. It was like at the roof of this hotel and it was really nice. And I hosted.
Blake
Were there big sips there?
Adam
Big sips that had to have been there. I didn't see them. But any great establishment has big sips ready to go.
Ders
Okay, cool, cool, cool.
Blake
Go off king.
Adam
But yeah, so I watched. I binge watched all of it. And then there's also like behind the scenes stuff that you can watch Amazon.
Kalpen
It was.
Adam
It was really.
Blake
It.
Adam
It was cool. I don't want to give anything away,
Ders
cuz it is like a. It is a. It's a marvel what they pull off.
Blake
Yeah, it's hilarious.
Adam
So the premise is Jury Duty was the first season on Amazon and it was essentially they're jurors and they. Everyone's in on the bit. Everybody actor. Except for one guy. And so the. The. Even the judge is an actor. Yeah, coincidentally, Ike Barinholtz's dad, which is so cool.
Blake
He's such a cool guy.
Adam
So then the crime obviously is all fake and. And they made it crazy and it was really, really good. So then you're like, are they gonna do. It's called Jury Duty. Are they going to do it again? So what they. What they did. Which was smart. It's still Jury Duty, but It's jury duty, company retreat. And it's this company. It's this hot sauce company. Rockin Grandma's hot sauce.
Blake
They just sent me, dude, I, I got it. I got it. They sent me, they sent me a pack and it's actually kind of freaking good.
Adam
Have you tried it? I did not bust it open yet. Yes.
Ders
I put some on some tacos the other day.
Blake
There's four different flavors. I kind of like the smoky one. I'm like, this is legit.
Adam
I will give up one joke and I hope it doesn't ruin it for anyone, but just watch the damn thing. But there's a rock and grandma. They're like doing this big presentation to the investors and the rocking grandma is supposed to like rock out on the guitar, but then it just looks like she's jerking off when the hand movement.
Blake
So she's just going like, dude, hey. I already love it. I already love it. Dude.
Adam
It's fantastic.
Blake
I'm about to tap in the whole season.
Adam
So for this, instead of a juror, it is a intern at their, their company retreat. Their company. And they're about to do a company retreat and they're going to be taken over by a larger company. And then they, you know, so it's, there's a lot going on, but it's much larger in scale than the jury duty. So it was cool.
Blake
Yeah. But they, they, they switch out the whole cast too. Like everybody's new and all that. It's got to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ders
Gotta be.
Blake
That's.
Ders
They blew up their spot. It's like punked.
Blake
Yeah. Or like even like before that kind of like this similar idea. Do you remember what was it like the Joe Schmo show? Do you remember that?
Ders
Yeah.
Blake
Yep.
Adam
Brian Keith Etheridge.
Blake
Yes. It was like a fake.
Adam
Wrote it or co created it or something.
Blake
He was.
Ders
And also I think Kristen Wiig was on it.
Adam
Kristen.
Ders
Yeah. I say wig.
Blake
I think it might be Kristen Wiig.
Adam
Is it?
Blake
We think it might be week. It might be. Wig.
Adam
Kristen. Wig.
Ders
You say Kristen Wiig. There's two eyes, isn't it?
Adam
Yeah.
Blake
Bke. He was the showrunner and starred. Who also Brian Keith Etheridge, also a writer on Workaholics.
Adam
That's right. That's right.
Blake
He was the showrunner of the Joe Schmo show. Yeah.
Adam
Was that on Spike? Comedy Central or where was that?
Ders
Spike.
Blake
Spike.
Adam
Spike tv.
Ders
Yeah.
Adam
They know dudes.
Blake
Like, dude, that was, that was like old school reality show. I, I watched the first episode of the very first Real World the other day sure pulled it up because I'm like, what the hell was it?
Ders
Are you a drug dealer? Dude?
Blake
It is crazy to go back and watch.
Ders
Is that the first episode where her. She's got a pager and then like, are you a drug dealer? She's like, that's racist. You're from the country.
Blake
Yeah, she's like, from. Yeah, she's from. Yeah, she's from Tennessee or something.
Ders
Do you guys know how old I am? Yeah.
Adam
D. I mean, the fact that Dur knows every. Every part of those first few seasons, Heather B.
Ders
Is a legend.
Blake
It is wild that you just pulled that, like, out of nowhere like this.
Ders
The commercial aired constantly where she's like, are you a drag dealer?
Blake
It's kind of crazy, though, like, because reality TV has gone through such a. Like a evolution or de Evolution, if
Ders
you really want to put my hood back on.
Blake
Even then, you can tell the shit was still pretty scripted. They're like, oh, like, let's. Let's plant this moment so that they. They, they. They talk about this or whatever. But, like, it's really cool to go back and watch that stuff because it's such a time capsule.
Ders
What's a little white country girl's name? Eric Nese was Bout. Bout her.
Adam
Yeah. And I might have talked about this on another podcast, but I was a Road Rules guy.
Blake
Yeah, Road Rules rocked.
Adam
Rules rocked. Just because it was sick. They're like, all in this rv. They're on, like, a little road trip together. It was cool.
Blake
Yeah, he's the babe.
Ders
Now they're running our country. Yeah.
Adam
And Spencer Pratt, he was a Road Rules.
Blake
No, he's not on it.
Adam
Sorry.
Ders
I wish.
Adam
No, but the first time I saw Theo Vaughn.
Blake
Oh, that's right.
Adam
He was in Road Rules. And when I met him at the Comedy store, like, almost 20 years ago now, I was shook.
Ders
Yeah.
Adam
I was like, holy shit.
Blake
Oh, yeah.
Adam
He was like a true star.
Ders
And he was like a baby.
Blake
He was a show.
Ders
Yeah, he was 18 or something, right?
Adam
Yeah, yeah, he was.
Blake
He was a young buck.
Ders
It was him. It was the blonde dude with the big hair, cat Kit. Kit, who's now a host on, like, Extra or some shit.
Blake
Dude, not everybody, but you'd be surprised.
Adam
Miz, I think the Miz.
Blake
Yeah, the Miz was definitely from.
Ders
There was the Miz Road Rules? No, the Miz was. But Miz was Real World. Was he? I think so.
Blake
He might have been Real World. Real World. Road Rules All Stars. Who knows?
Ders
I think he. I feel like he would walk around A house in, like, the costumes. That's all I can picture.
Adam
He was real world Isaac sane.
Ders
Yeah. Yeah. Was los. In the first season of Road Rules where he's like, I don't have to do but stay black and die. I was like, this dude's cool.
Adam
That is tight.
Blake
There's a lot. There's a lot of very legendary.
Adam
And that was like, when he said that. I remember when he said that. I thought he was the first person to ever say that.
Ders
Right.
Blake
Oh, wait, he didn't.
Adam
Because, you know, I was. I was a kid. So you're like, oh, my God. Like, that's so cool to say.
Ders
Like, it was Paul Mooney, though. Yeah.
Adam
Yeah. And for sure wasn't.
Ders
No.
Adam
Yeah. So I guess that's the trick to go on a reality show and then you just sort of repeat really iconic. Really fame. Iconic. Famous bits from stand up comedians.
Ders
Somebody stop me.
Adam
And then you're not saying you're the only one to ever say that, but you're.
Blake
I just want a party. Yeah, you just do our soundboard. Yeah. Loose butthole. Yeah.
Ders
It's just iconic.
Adam
What is the one that my dad says? Cowabunga.
Blake
How do you not know the. The most iconic drop.
Adam
Yeah.
Blake
Of 2026, dude.
Adam
Kumbaya. Kumbaya.
Ders
It's a good.
Blake
That one is flame. Your dad is a human soundboard. It's pretty.
Adam
He is. He. It's nothing but soundboard bits with that guy. Trying to have a heart to heart is hard with him. Dad, I just want to let you know that I. I love you so much. And having you and mom here, it means the world to me that you guys want to spit. Kumbaya. Tight butthole.
Ders
Okay, Adam, are you a resident of la or are you a resident of Orange County?
Adam
I'm a resident of both places.
Blake
Go off king. Go off king.
Ders
But who do you vote for? Like, what's your main residence?
Blake
Oh, we're talking voting. Let's go, bro.
Adam
I think we. We split the diff. It's a. It's a house. House divided.
Blake
Oh.
Adam
So I think I am in Orange County. My vote, and I think Chloe's vote is in la, so she gets to
Ders
put one in for our guy.
Blake
Who's. Who's our guy?
Adam
Who's our guy?
Ders
I think you know who's our guy?
Blake
Who's our guy? Pratt.
Ders
It's time for a Pratt fall. I watched the debates.
Blake
Pratt needs to fall, bro.
Ders
I turned on the debates. I thought the. I thought it was the roast.
Blake
I'll tell you, there's no difference anymore.
Ders
It's crazy.
Adam
His campaign videos are insane. It's just AI shit. And you're like, we need to bring, you know, the entertainment business back to L. A. And then it'll just be.
Blake
I agree, agree.
Adam
I agree, yes. But then it'll just be AI actors in the video of him being like, we got to bring the entertainment business back to l. A.
Blake
Science.
Adam
It's an all a video.
Blake
It actually, it is crazy. Like, you are right. Everything is so, like, nothing is more elevated than the next, like, the governor. Like, all the shit. It might as well just be a roast. Like, it doesn't matter if it's politicians or comedians. Everybody is operating at the same wavelength right now. Nobody feels like, smart or elevated on TV anymore. Like, it's kind of a bummer, I
Adam
think, a little bit, because there's no decorum. They used to.
Ders
There's no decorum.
Adam
They used to, like, respect each other.
Blake
Shout out a points for decorum.
Adam
Yes, points.
Ders
And for x and for extra points, spell decorum.
Blake
Decorum.
Adam
D E C O U R M. Okay, Todd.
Bowen Yang
All right.
Adam
Is that right, Todd?
Ders
Yeah. Points.
Adam
Todd.
Blake
Todd.
Adam
D E C O R U M. I said urm. I might have it up.
Blake
Hey.
Ders
Yes. Yes. Points.
Blake
You got him. Anyways, man, you were in the wheelhouse.
Adam
I don't know. I don't know if I said yeah or not, honestly. No, there's so far, there's no way to tell. We're not recording, are we?
Blake
We're in a bizarre.
Ders
Pull the hood up.
Blake
Yeah, put the hood back on.
Ders
Yeah, we're in a bizarre time. But also, it's just like, when people are smart, they're told to talk, like, dumb. Like, simplify. Yeah, that's it, Adam.
Blake
Yeah, get it.
Ders
And so it's like a lose, lose. You either have to, like, talk like an idiot from the schoolyard or you're.
Blake
Nah, man.
Adam
That Spencer Pratt, by the way, like, I mean, he's so dumb sounding.
Ders
It's crazy.
Blake
Holy charge. Let's go.
Adam
He just. He just is.
Blake
He would fit, right? Definitely. Yes. He's definitely us.
Adam
Like, I know.
Ders
It makes me kind of want to run and go. Yeah, no, me too.
Blake
You could YouTube a better councilman.
Adam
Dude.
Ders
He says he's gonna do this. I'm gonna do it better and faster. Yeah, you do a really good impression.
Adam
You did it the other day.
Ders
I look just as tired as he does. That looks tired.
Blake
Yeah.
Adam
And he's just like. No, it's always. He's a little out of breath when he's when he's talking, dude.
Blake
Because he's worked up. He's passionate.
Adam
No, Karen Bass, she's an idiot.
Ders
And it's.
Adam
I wouldn't be. I'd get in there and I'd fix the problems. There's homeless people all over the streets just lighting fires and injecting.
Blake
He's right.
Adam
Injecting their eyeballs with Superman.
Ders
Super meth was an eye opener.
Blake
That's a Robocop.
Adam
If I were. If I were the mayor, that wouldn't even happen. Saying you're like, well, how. How would it not happen? It wouldn't. I'd fix it.
Blake
She made it been.
Ders
But how would you change it? I'll tell you what I wouldn't do. What she did. What she do, she didn't do.
Adam
Yeah, dude.
Blake
Dude.
Adam
And then. And then people that are like, finally someone speaking the truth. And you're like, what?
Ders
That's the wildest part.
Blake
Here's when I'll know we've hit the peak. During the debates when homegirl's talking, Spencer puts the mic up to his ass and just goes right in the mic, dude. And it'd be like, everybody like, oh,
Ders
they would be like, gotcha. They would be. You know what? It's like breathing air in Los Angeles right now.
Adam
That's funny, though. So he might.
Blake
I know I. I would vote off that viral moment. Sometimes you got to vote off the viral moment, dude.
Adam
Baby.
Ders
It is wild. It. And I'm. I have no time for this. But it does make me want to do, like a real life comedy sketch going, I would actually do what he would do too. But a different. And everyone would be like, oh, I get what he's doing. And Spencer does seem kind of stupid now. Like, the fact that nobody goes, what are this dude's qualifications? And look, I don't know what he's been up to. What's he been up to?
Blake
Sure.
Adam
He refuses to tell us.
Kalpen
I don't know.
Ders
I guess I just. I don't even know. I know he was on tv, but I just don't even know if he's had to delegate, like, any sort of responsibility to people working for him on any scale. I don't know what he's been up to.
Blake
That's my thing.
Ders
He's got a sick Airstream. And that's all I know is that if I had to get one of those, it'd be an airstream. But they're $200,000.
Blake
I take comfort. I like when, like, people are smarter than me. I'm like, Hyped on when my leaders, like, I'm like, oh, shit.
Adam
Like you, obviously everyone you go to the grocery store, just anyone.
Blake
The manager at the grocery store.
Adam
Not even the manager. The kid that you're like, hey, man, where's.
Blake
No, no, no, no. Where's the peanut butter? And he's like, we're equals, bro. We're equal.
Ders
Okay.
Blake
I'm like, you moved that, didn't you? Dude, I. And I saw how you kept the. The labels, like, kind of crooked. That was.
Ders
It's like, you see this? It's called beaver mustard. Okay.
Blake
Yo, come over here, dude.
Ders
Kids like, oh, my God, dude.
Blake
You know, big sips is kind of like buzz balls. Yeah.
Adam
You asked for peanut butter. But he's like, I actually know what you really want. You're right.
Blake
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Blake
mom, can I have Lingokids?
Adam
Dad, Lingokids, please.
Ders
When did we become the Lingokids house?
Blake
No idea.
Adam
Last week it was dinosaurs.
Ders
This week it Lingokids. Why Lingokids?
Blake
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Ders
nobody likes when a question is asked and a politician goes, well, I can't say yes or no. It's complicated. And they get into like a 10 minute diatribe that covers all their bases.
Blake
It's a yes or no. It's a yes or no.
Ders
And he goes, he answered yes or no. Which is refreshing to people who just want a simple answer right. But that doesn't mean his answer is right.
Adam
Yeah.
Blake
Yes. Yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right.
Adam
Because there are questions that there are no yes or no's because it's too complicated.
Blake
It's nuanced. It's nuanced.
Ders
Nuance is great, but I do nuance.
Adam
But it's a decorum.
Blake
Ask me to spell nuance. I don't even know where to begin.
Adam
There has to be a decorum to this nuance.
Ders
And I don't want to get into the fucking nuance either. Like there's a. There's a certain scale where all of a sudden. Too much nuance.
Adam
Yeah.
Ders
Looking at him now, I'm like, how? How?
Adam
Dude, why didn't we also run a three headed monster?
Blake
Can we run as three people?
Adam
Dude, can we run the three of us? Mayor. And we'll call ourselves the super mayor.
Ders
This is jury duty season three.
Blake
It would be tight. Dude, three headed mayor.
Ders
Oh, yeah.
Adam
Where one of us lacks in skill, the other also lacks in skill.
Blake
Yeah. My whole thing is like our smart head is Ders and I feel like.
Adam
And he's. And he can't tell time.
Ders
Let's give it the old college try. N. Grandma.
Blake
I. You could put all three of us together and we're as good as Spencer Pratt.
Adam
No, I would say we're probably better than Spencer.
Blake
You go toe to toe with him.
Adam
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Blake
Okay. Okay.
Ders
What are we doing here? Here's what I'll say. He. He like, he remembered, like, memorized like seven facts. I think I'm good for two or three.
Blake
Yeah.
Ders
I can't do numbers.
Blake
It's science.
Adam
Yeah, you are really bad at memorization, which is your main job. So you might have to work on that improv.
Blake
Like, is every. Is every debate this year this late? Is all the, like, people, like, trying to become mayors in every county, like, fucking this cool?
Adam
No, no, no. This la. This cool.
Ders
Like sad.
Adam
LA1 is rock and roll, extra nuts. Yeah, right.
Ders
But like, is it. I mean, dude, the New York one had a. There's the memory, a guardian angel dude. Oh, Who I actually thought made some sense.
Kalpen
Which.
Blake
What?
Ders
I was like, this guy. This guy kind of is fed up and he gets it in a way that's even like he makes Spencer Pratt like. Or Spencer Pratt makes him seem like a genius.
Blake
Right.
Ders
That's what's wild. So the other guys, like, been around, lived, started Guardians Angels. That's kind of sick.
Adam
And Guardians Angels. Remind me. They were like the guys with the red jackets in the subway.
Blake
No, they wore like red berets and like tank tops and. Yeah, they looked like. It basically looked like the warriors movie.
Adam
Yes. If you have any trouble in the subway system in the 80s when it was really dangerous, they were essentially like
Ders
vigilantes who were like.
Blake
Yes.
Ders
We walk around and if people are around and like hassling you, we'll step to them.
Adam
Yeah, we'll you up Curtis Sliwa. Silwa.
Blake
It was Jojo Sliwa's uncle. Hold up.
Adam
Jojo Siwa.
Blake
Yeah, that's right. That's right, that's right. No, she's cool, dude.
Adam
No, she isn't.
Ders
But like, that dude had lived life, had done a thing not.
Adam
She's the worst.
Ders
Loved it.
Blake
Well, that's dope. Yeah.
Adam
Also, I don't know. I don't know if he should be the mayor, you know, I just want some.
Ders
Where's.
Adam
Where's our just smart old guys or women?
Ders
Well, dude, this is. What's so fascinating to me is that we on the guy who makes all the malls so hard cuz we're like that guy.
Adam
What do we want?
Ders
Fountains everywhere. I'm like, fountains have been in LA long before at his malls. But now that guy seems kind of good. This is what happens. We push away people who are like, like kind of not our favorite. And then we end up with absolute knuckleheads. And then we go, where's the mall guy? And the mall guy's like, you think I'm going to do this again?
Adam
He's like, I'm not, I'm not running.
Blake
I. What do you mean? I made up Dave and Busters in Torrance.
Ders
That is what he. That is what he said. Yeah, it's wild, dude.
Adam
Spencer Pratt also had a video where he's like, I'm talking to engineers. I'm talking to like the smartest engineer. And he has a crew of like 15 other engineers. And they left LA cuz it's too hard. Hard to build here. I'm going to get rid of all those restrictions by the what? While he's doing this interview, there's an AI video playing and. And it's of a futuristic city of LA that of like buildings that maybe can't even be built because they're from the future. He's like, and we're gonna do like really cool stuff that you won't see anywhere else.
Ders
And you'll be like, it's just Shrek.
Adam
It'll be like, people will come here and be like, this is the most beautiful city in the world. Cool architecture. And then in the comments, it's like, way to go. Yes. Make our city beautiful again. And I'm like, it's wild.
Blake
It's science.
Adam
It's an AI video, you dumb. It's like all my parents.
Ders
Yeah, who?
Adam
It's, you know, it's like my, my dad will watch a video. My parents, it's. It's my. All of our parents, right? They watch these videos and they can't tell it's AI. Yeah, my dad will watch like fishing videos and it's just like a guy catching a Megalodon. And my dad's like, Jesus Christ, look at this. I'm like, yeah, dad, that's not real, obviously.
Blake
Well, this is where it gets dangerous because like now like my stepdad's kind of getting, getting hip to it. So he's like, now when he watches videos, he's like, that one was AI. And I'm like, I actually, I don't think that one was AI.
Ders
Right, right, right. They try and get ahead of it.
Blake
I think that one was real, dude.
Adam
That one was Real.
Blake
I. I think. I think that was a true life thing happening there.
Adam
Well, what's crazy is my mom can't tell. It'll be like the kind of AI where their mouths never really shut, you know? And you could just tell when they're talking. And my mom is like. I'm like, jesus.
Blake
So.
Adam
AI. And my mom is like, how can you tell? And I'm like, because their mouth doesn't shut properly.
Blake
Because they have 800 teeth.
Ders
Because they're looking into the camera like this.
Blake
Yeah, no, it's getting. It's getting harder. And it's only gonna get harder.
Adam
It is, is it?
Blake
And I'm only gonna get harder.
Adam
Now we're.
Blake
Because when you get the AI AI porno. No, it's. The future is going to be. If there is.
Adam
The future is gnar.
Blake
It will be so gnar. It will be so.
Ders
I just don't understand why people want this so bad.
Adam
What AI?
Ders
Yeah, yeah.
Adam
No one wants AI. Only the people building AI want AI. The rest of us are going.
Ders
Everyone wants it. People are all using it.
Adam
Because now that it's here, if you don't.
Blake
Yeah, exactly. If you don't want it, why do we use it? But that is this. That's what happens nowadays. It's like we. We all are like, ah, I don't like it. But then, like, people still use it.
Ders
You're buying it. We're buying into it.
Blake
Like, you have to say, I don't like it, I'm not going to use it.
Adam
That's.
Ders
And then the theory is, well, if you're not using it, you're going to get left behind because everyone else is going to use it and get whatever work you're doing done in 10 minutes instead of 10 hours.
Blake
Yeah, but fuck that.
Ders
And so it reminds me of the plandemic. It reminds me of boosters. It reminds me of boosters. Or, sorry, not boosters, but the vaccines, where it's like, the idea of a vaccine is that everyone has to do it. And some people were like, I don't want to do it. The idea for combating AI is for no one to do it. But everyone's like, well, I want to do it.
Adam
I'm gonna. I'm gonna.
Ders
I gotta do it. It's like a reverse vaccine.
Adam
Yeah, the one. The ones that. No, I like it to, like, ask a simple. Ask a question and then it can. It can really answer you. Like a human would answer in a way that Google sometimes really have to get in the weeds. You're like, ah, that's not exactly what I wanted.
Blake
It gathers all the data at once. Right.
Adam
That to me is helpful. What? I don't like Googling.
Ders
You mean using it like a Google?
Blake
Sort of, but it's like an advanced.
Adam
But it would really break it down for you in the way that it, that it's like you're talking to a person as opposed to asking Google.
Ders
I don't want it to talk to me like a person. I think that's dumb.
Blake
Yeah, like, what about like research and finding is important. Like you have to. Great question.
Adam
But what I don't like is, is the video component. I'm like, who asked for this? Like a bunch of like fake video, oh, slop stuff. Yeah, yeah, but that's, yeah, like, but now it's getting like real really good.
Ders
Kumbaya. Yeah, but that's the most fun thing for anybody anywhere. Especially if you're 10 years old, you're slop, slop just making slots.
Blake
Sure. Like imagine the up thing for me
Ders
is that we're basically, we're letting these search engines just farm all the intelligence that humans came up with and no one's getting like paid on that back end. Right?
Adam
Yeah, no they're not. No.
Ders
Like if you have a farm and someone's like, hey, we need corn. You go, great, I'm gonna work and you're going to buy my corn and then people are going to eat, eat. People are just eating your corn and you're like, well I don't understand. They're like, people are eating over here. And I go, well yeah, but like that's my corn. Not anymore.
Blake
Gotcha.
Adam
That's, that is a.
Ders
So like how does that work?
Adam
My sister works for a, a giant tech company, Demon, and she's training the little robot dogs. She's training AI to take her job.
Ders
Right?
Adam
I'm living in a nightmare like every day she's like feeding the AI information to take her job.
Ders
This is what I would do. And it goes. Cool, Great. Good to know.
Adam
She's like, it's, it's any day now I'm going to be let go because AI is just going to be like, okay, thanks Britney, we've got it.
Blake
And you're like, but even then my mind goes to okay, are they cashing her out? Cuz she's, she's the prototype. Like she is the, the brain that they, they drew from, from like. No, no, not at all. Exactly.
Ders
They're not cashing her out.
Blake
I know nobody. So why are we like letting go of all of this? Just to the robots for no anything.
Ders
Because it helps me schedule. It helps me whatever.
Adam
Like, someone is getting cashed out.
Blake
Someone is, you know. Yeah, it's the. It's. It's terrible.
Ders
I don't know, man. And like, throw the hood up.
Blake
I wish I had a hood. Dude, we should have hooded up the whole.
Ders
They keep talking about. I. I'm saying, dude, bro, we're going saying, like, you're gonna be able to travel and like, you could just paint all day. But people need to do.
Adam
Yeah, people need.
Ders
People need to feel in demand.
Adam
Like, well, that is what plants. That is what Zuckerberg said. He was like, well, this will. This will you. People won't need jobs. They'll. They'll be able to have all their time suspended how they want to. And you're like, no, no, no, no.
Ders
People need.
Adam
People need to pay for. Dude. People have mortgages and their kids need to eat and.
Blake
Right. That's the part of the equation.
Adam
Like, and also, if you have a job. I know in.
Ders
In theory, alcohol.
Adam
Yeah. In theory, not having a job is great, but not having a job means you're going to drink big sips.
Ders
You either turn into an alcoholic or you get absolutely shredded.
Blake
Now it's feeling a little targeted.
Ders
It's pandemic, where you just are like, got nothing to do. What am I going to do? And then you turn into something.
Blake
No, wait. The pandemic was sick. The pandemic was sick.
Ders
I know, but the pandemic.
Adam
A lot of people were sick. They died.
Ders
I know. Know people died. It lasted a year and change. Right? This is for the rest of humanity. And that's just the short end. The short end.
Blake
I did so many puzzles.
Ders
Sooner or later, the robots, the AI is going to build robots. They're going, this is terminator 2. I just watched it with my kid. It's happening.
Adam
The AI is building robots. And then the robots are going to fuck us. And. And we're going to let it.
Ders
They're going to have that out there.
Blake
No, we're not going to let them.
Adam
We're going to give it the old
Ders
colle and then they're going to slit our throats.
Blake
Everything is building towards. We are going to go to war with robots and everybody's going to be stoked and we're all going to band together and be like humans. Hell yeah, dude. Finally, we're all friends again.
Ders
And the robots, we're fighting an enemy that doesn't have to eat or sleep.
Blake
The robots are going to fucking annihilate us, dude. In ways. In ways we thought in the back of our mind that they extracted. And they're like, oh, I know it would really hurt if we just like peel their buttholes off, like stickers. And they're gonna do that to us. It's gonna be bad, dude.
Ders
See, but the fact that you just said that, Blake. The fact that you just said that into a podcast. This can now be mine. And now it's part of their greater brain trust. Brain trust.
Blake
It's science. They're gonna have us lined up and they're gonna just start peeling our buttholes off like scratches.
Ders
You will be Anderson.
Blake
Scratch and sniff, bro.
Ders
You will be Anderson.
Blake
Well, I was like, okay, so I was like, I forget how I got down that road. But like Vlad the Impaler, right? He would like cut off just the
Ders
guy who interviews rappers.
Blake
No, no, no, no, no, no. Like really old school. Vlad the Impaler.
Adam
Who was Vlad the Impaler? I don't quite.
Blake
I don't fully know.
Ders
You should see the guy who put people's AI on the wall.
Blake
Yes, but he would basically, like cut off the whole army's head, like, of his opponents and then like put them on stakes. So when like pillar.
Adam
Vladimir Guerrero.
Blake
No, that's. He's an expo. He's a baseball player.
Adam
He was pretty Dominican.
Ders
Former professional baseball.
Blake
Oh, no, no, no, not him. He was the guy that was Dracula was based off, right? Oh, yeah. And he would basically like wipe the out opposing armies and then just cut their heads off and put all their like. Or not even cut their heads off. He just put the stake like through their butthole through their mouth. So when you entered a town, it was just like, oh, my God, what the fuck am I going into? That's what robots are going to do to us. But peeling off our buttholes.
Ders
This is what happens when we let you talk.
Adam
But in the meantime, like AI porno seems like it's going to be cool in the meantime. Allegedly.
Ders
Yeah, but like, I'm not going to click on it until it's available. Like, they try and make you sign up for a whole website and make it a whole lifestyle. Hey, guess what?
Adam
It's not a lifestyle.
Ders
It's not going to be my lifestyle yet.
Adam
It's not a lifestyle.
Ders
It's not going to be my lifestyle.
Adam
It can't be. It cannot be your lifestyle.
Ders
When they try and make it a lifestyle, I'm like, guys, not a lifestyle. This is a pastime. This is a hobby. This is a.
Blake
It's a bagel and this may be the ship's talking.
Ders
This is a. Well, I'll take a peek. I got 20 minutes to kill. Let me take a peek here.
Adam
If the video was already available. But what they want you to do is like build your own super, super chick. I don't want to get in the weeds, dude.
Ders
This is like when I go in a Subway. I'm making my own sandwich.
Blake
And this may be the SIPS talking, but I'm not trying to do that, man.
Adam
And by the way, trying to get in the weeds.
Ders
How about A.I. you know what I like? You know what I've clicked on? So just build something. Make an amalgam.
Adam
Build it. Build it. And I will come. Build it and I will come.
Ders
And don't. And do not give it a dick. Do not give it a. A dick. I don't understand why all the AI porn. Everything has a dick.
Blake
Everybody's coming. Agreed.
Adam
Yeah.
Ders
I don't.
Blake
And it must. I want to see one. I gotta see.
Adam
We'll see. See.
Blake
Preferably with Peony.
Adam
See, you're laughing too hard. See?
Blake
Sorry, sorry, Sorry.
Adam
It's okay.
Blake
Sorry. I'm back. It's the SIPS talking.
Adam
See, they must. The algorithm must know something that we don't know. That's why they all have dicks. The algorithm knows.
Ders
No, no, no. But they're fishing. They're fishing.
Adam
Fishing.
Ders
They're fishing.
Adam
I don't know.
Blake
You gotta have a worm to fish.
Ders
And I click on something because I go, whoa, that demon and that elf look like they're getting it on. Oh no. The elf has a humongous Vanny cocktail.
Blake
Right?
Ders
And they don't show. And they don't show. That in the thumbnail.
Adam
So here. I think Todd just threw something in the chat. A 21 year old Texas student builds an AI only fans model using only 400 MacBook. Earns $43,000 a month.
Ders
And by the way, this is the thing. Thing that happens and everyone goes, this is amazing. It's going to be amazing for 10 years and then everything is going to be Mad Max in a bad way.
Blake
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Like right now we are like bearing the fruits of that. But it will. It will sour.
Ders
We're being lured. We're being lured.
Adam
See, we click. Well, this is just this. This dude, this 21 year old dude in his college dorm room.
Ders
I'm a dude.
Adam
And he's. And he's bent over like. Like, look at. Like this. And then AI turns him into a very sexy chick in her underwear.
Ders
Are you clicking on these links?
Blake
I'm a dude always, dude.
Adam
I click on everything.
Ders
Which one? I see the fourth link.
Blake
Yeah.
Ders
Which one was that?
Blake
Which one was that?
Ders
The guy bent over the bottom1.
Adam
The AI generated person only.
Ders
Fan Set your choices. Reject all.
Blake
Yeah, why are we.
Ders
And I'm in.
Blake
Every time I click these, it's like, warning, warning, warning.
Ders
And so now this guy, when he moves, moves the body of this woman is there. Like, that's what you see. If you're.
Adam
Oh, that's what you see. It's him. But AI turns. It turns him into her.
Blake
So he could just be like, yes, yes. I actually saw something now. Yeah. What are you.
Adam
So you could be jerking off to this woman? This sexy woman? Yeah, it's just a dude in his living room.
Ders
AOL all over again. I'm a dude, dude.
Blake
Yeah, I saw something. There was a. I think it was a. A lady who was putting on. It's basically a filter. It's like a live filter. Yeah. And she was like this really hot chick. But then, like, something happened where it glitched and it revealed who was really behind it. And then, like, she lost all of her followers. But.
Ders
But not all of them.
Adam
Not all.
Blake
Not all of them. Some of them were like, promise you.
Ders
There's one guy who goes, I knew it.
Blake
Hell yeah, dude.
Adam
Perfect.
Blake
Hell yeah.
Ders
Can't reach the mouse. Can't reach the trackpad. Perfect.
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No idea.
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Blake
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Blake
It's. It's gonna get weird. It's only gonna get weirder, dude. We might as well build little avatars.
Ders
No, I. That's too much. It's too much.
Blake
Be a cool frogman or something and just go, like, why not? Why not? Why. Why. Why is it even cool?
Ders
He means, like, you make an avatar for yourself so you can walk around the virtual land as a frog guy.
Adam
The fact that you didn't. If you were richer, Blake would have bought a bunch of NFTs. If Blake was richer, he would. No, I didn't.
Blake
I.
Adam
He would have got, like, a bored ape.
Blake
No, that never appealed to me. That seemed silly.
Ders
NFTs are actually the. The interesting thing that I do think was cool about NFTs is that if you were an artist and you made a piece of art every time it sold, you got paid, as opposed to you selling it for let's say $50,000 because you're successful, and then five years later, as you get more successful, somebody sells it for 250, you don't get any of that money. Know what I'm saying?
Blake
But what. But what of that ever made any noise beyond the apes? Like, I never knew anything beyond.
Ders
That's a good question. Would they be noise? What do you think, Adam? As far as the noise?
Adam
Thank you, God. NFT guys. The Beeple Gu guy that I met, I met in Charleston, we went to his, like, headquarters, computer lab, and the people. He sold his. He sold his nft. The one. It was the one that went for, like, $67 million or 87 or something. That God was absurd. And then six months later, it's worth, like, $200.
Blake
Yeah, right.
Adam
It's worth nothing.
Ders
But here's my question.
Adam
Imagine being the guy that paid the 67 million because are like, this is the future.
Ders
Look.
Adam
Look up how much Beeple actually sold or worked for.
Ders
Adam, what do you think? Don't you think smart people would go, hey, I'm creating this whole new world of art. Let's get in on it. You've got $67 million. Buy my art for $67 million. I'll give it right back to you. But we've created the idea that this stuff is actually selling, and people go, I want to be. They bought 67 million. I got 5 million. Let me get into this. And now you've done just made $5 million.
Blake
Yeah, that's probably.
Adam
I don't think that's what happened, but
Blake
some dude lost a lot of money.
Ders
I'm just saying, isn't that how art works?
Blake
That's insider trading, dude.
Ders
Yeah, but that's art.
Adam
He sold it for 69.3 million at Christie's in March 2021. Yeah. And then also sold another one for nearly 29 million. And then that's it. I talked with the guy. He was like, yeah, it's essentially dead now, but I. I was able to get mine. And so I was there at the right time, and I'm like, and what's he doing now?
Ders
I know I would be doing absolutely nothing.
Adam
He owns, like, an artist compound in Charleston, and.
Ders
Yeah, that's cool.
Adam
And then I think just throws parties there and stuff.
Ders
Yeah.
Blake
I'm like, oh, so he, like, is actually down for the arts, but he's really just raging. He's just kind of party.
Adam
Yeah, no, he's. He's down for the arts. He does all kinds of work. Weird.
Blake
I just didn't even. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't tap into that.
Adam
He, like, makes those masks that look exactly like people.
Blake
So you're just like, oh, those are pretty cool.
Adam
We're at the part at this party, and just all of a sudden, like, Jeff Bezos is there, and you're like, jeff Bezos is here?
Blake
It's crazy.
Adam
And then. But why is his head, like, a little extra big?
Ders
Why is he on a bikini?
Adam
It was. It was really off putting.
Blake
Those are actually cool. I like that.
Ders
Blake, you want to be a frog? Just get one of those masks and walk around the Glendale Galleria.
Blake
How much do you think those masks cost? They're probably like, I think you can afford it.
Ders
Yeah, you're on Netflix. You're on Netflix.
Blake
You think they're five grand?
Adam
No, no. I bet they're more than that.
Ders
Fifteen. Really? You don't think they're like, 1500 bucks?
Adam
No. For a really, really, really good one.
Ders
Well, you just said really, really, really three times.
Adam
Like a really, really good one.
Ders
Yeah, I think you're right. The really, really, really good ones.
Blake
No, I'm talking much.
Ders
I'm talking about just the good ones.
Blake
No, I. I want a really, really, really good.
Adam
Well, you.
Ders
You don't.
Adam
One that looks like a Ne. Like a. A Halloween costume.
Blake
Yeah. No, no. I want it to look amazing.
Adam
Like, Blake is going to go in blackface as Whoopy Goldberg. He wants to look exactly like.
Blake
When did I ever say that? No, that. I know.
Ders
I know.
Adam
That's the vibe that you're giving.
Blake
I said frog. I want to be a frog.
Ders
I'm seeing a Trump mask here for 1200.
Blake
Okay.
Adam
Okay.
Ders
Realistic. I typed in realistic. Trump mask.
Adam
Pizza. Pizza.
Blake
I feel like I went to, like, DesignerCon in Pasadena, and they had some pretty good masks, and it wasn't that much, but I feel like even then it's starting to. It's getting realer every.
Adam
Yeah, well, if you want to be just like a random guy, you could. It seems like just for a couple hundred bucks, you could look really, really, really scary, which is weird. And scary, which is okay.
Ders
So wait, I'm getting confused.
Adam
Maybe that's what we do for the next podcast.
Blake
Dude, I think that's a great idea.
Adam
That's great.
Blake
I think that's a great idea.
Adam
Heads.
Blake
Let's just look completely different. But the mouth moves.
Adam
The mouth moves.
Blake
That's. It's all about the mouth moving for us.
Adam
It's all about our mouths.
Ders
Like, this one's 600 bucks. I guess I'm like, if they're $10,000, I don't know who's buying them.
Blake
Well, see that? I want that one.
Ders
Beeple. Who?
Blake
Beeple.
Adam
People.
Blake
Yes, people is doing it.
Ders
Yeah, I guess you're right. Pets aren't really shopping like they used to. I'm still gonna send it.
Blake
I want the 10 grand one because it's gonna, it's gonna last. Right?
Ders
Okay, you get. Hey, do you know it'd be really funny. You get the 10 grand one, I'll get one. That's about $10. Freaking.
Blake
See ya. That's from Party City. Party. Well, yeah.
Ders
I remember finding out how much like real good wigs were and when I got into the business, the industry. Industry. And shocked.
Adam
Yeah. They can go for thousands and thousands of dollars.
Blake
I. I wouldn't know. I don't have a wig.
Ders
Yeah, like $40,000 for like. Yeah, for like a legit movie star. For like if Meryl Streep has like a. The. The Devil burst Prada, that's got to be a wig. And it's a centerpiece of the movie, right? That's a forty thousand dollar wig. Maybe more.
Adam
That's. That's right.
Blake
Well, because.
Adam
Because any time that there's like a wig and it doesn't look. Anytime there's a wig and it doesn't look good, then the movie tanks.
Blake
That shit's important.
Adam
You know, Then people are like, well, this. The. The wig.
Blake
What. What. What movie? What movie is coming to mind? It's true.
Ders
There's a Mark Wahlberg one where he had long hair and. And I remember seeing the billboard and being like, nah, I'm good.
Blake
That ain't it.
Ders
I'm good. What like Dan Brown fucking those Tom Hanks movies? I think they did well, but I was like, nah, not gonna see it.
Blake
That's a bad wig. I ain't watching that.
Adam
Nah, you get your wig right.
Blake
Get your wig right.
Adam
Dude, you better come correct with that wig.
Blake
Meryl Streep. How much did she pay for that wig? Damn it. We know we're talking Devil Wears Prada too.
Ders
Let's see what Gemini says. Wait, no, we can't use it.
Blake
See, you've refused to look.
Adam
I will say I did ask Gemini Blake during the.
Blake
The.
Adam
The Troubadour show. He sent us a photo of these leather pants and was like, should I buy these leather pants? And then the next day he goes to buy the leather pants. Apparently they weren't good enough. Leather pants.
Blake
No, they weren't tight.
Adam
I know. He just wanted me and Isaac to go pay for them. But I know not the case.
Blake
You saw. I sent photos of me wearing them. They were very baggy. They were not cool, bruh.
Adam
And then I go, okay, I guess I'll take care of it. Even though Blake was the one that said he was going to take care of it.
Blake
Wow, Adam. Adam has shouldered something. That's cool.
Adam
I get the drums in my. Into my phone.
Ders
Adam was fueled by rage.
Blake
Get the drums.
Adam
I'll do it into my phone. I asked Gemini and it was pretty cool. I go, hey, Gemini, what's the closest rock and roll style pants, fake leather pants near me?
Ders
And you're looking ripped today, Adam.
Adam
1.2. 1.2 miles away was a place called Rocktown. And they had all the. If you're ever in Hollywood, Rocktown has all the rock and roll stuff.
Ders
Send me a picture of you in those pants.
Blake
Did you guys keep the leather pants?
Adam
I believe Isaac kept all of my clothes for Dalton to wear on Halloween.
Blake
Damn.
Adam
Perfect.
Blake
You guys didn't take the leather pants home.
Ders
I forgot.
Blake
I feel like you could rock those.
Ders
Yeah, I did.
Blake
I didn't keep mine, but I definitely kept the. The fish.
Adam
I will say. Oh, I don't think we talk. I truly almost passed out when we stood up to. To when we were fighting.
Ders
Yeah.
Adam
And we're about to break out in
Ders
song, unbeknownst to you. Break out in song.
Adam
We stood up and all of a sudden the room goes.
Blake
Yeah.
Adam
And I almost passed out cuz the
Ders
clothes were so tight.
Adam
I think that vest, the. The pants weren't really that tight, but the vest itself itself was denim and it was really tight, like through my midsection. I think when I stood up, something.
Blake
Something shifted and like you really, really thought you're about to like drop and hit your head. You didn't meant have any mention of it. I didn't see like that look in your eye or anything.
Adam
Well, afterwards I told you after the
Ders
show he talked about it.
Blake
I know, but like, I would. I would think I would clock it as like your. Your fellow thespian.
Adam
Well, because I was trying to. I was trying to gather myself because I knew that Will Forte was about to grab that guitar and then. And if he were to grab a guitar, I would have to be the first one to sing.
Blake
How cool would it have been if we had like a real medical emergency and Will had to be there for it? And it was like we have our first guest and Adam's just like twitching
Ders
like, I do feel like he would have just kept playing and Been like, this is part of it, right?
Adam
Part of the bit.
Ders
By the way, you're supposed to like go up on like a perch on the stage and if you got up there and just fainted into the crowd, nose dive.
Blake
Oh, you would killed somebody.
Adam
That would have been a catastrophe. Well, that's why I didn't jump up there right away. If you notice, I stood on stage for a second.
Kalpen
I did.
Ders
I go, go to your perch and watch it.
Adam
Yeah, I stood there like, just like
Blake
now I've got to watch it.
Adam
Yeah, for a second. And then all of a sudden forte starts and I'm like, doctor, get to my pur.
Blake
It's just in slow mo, dude. Well, you pulled it off, man. That's why you're a rain Slater Snow. A legend, mate.
Adam
That's being you.
Blake
Really? I remember doing like a one act where like I had to like pretend to be dead on a. A live stage show, but I was
Ders
cast you as a dead body.
Blake
I no lines, but I had to like sit with my neck cranked like that. But it was like cutting off blood circulation and I could start to feel like my whole body tingling like I was going to truly pass out. So. So you're like, you're dead, but you're. You're dead, but you're like kind of like slowly like. I'm like, if I like really move slow, I have to. Dude, like, I'm truly going to pass out and actually be dead. So you're like kind of like making your it. I didn't pass out, but I was damn close.
Ders
Dude, you just reminded me that. God, this is crazy. God, this is when I was like so funny. I don't know, 10, maybe 11. I was in some play for like the Westing Game was like a book. And so they were like, read the book this week or whatever. And I just didn't read the book. Can't. And so then we get to like, we. We get to the casting and they're like, so who wants to play who? And they're like, anders, we think you should play this guy. And this girl goes, oh, yeah, you'd be really good at that. And I was like, fucking. I guess she gets. She fucking gets it. And then it's like a dude in a wheelchair who's got like down syndrome and doesn't talk or something. And so I'm in this play and I'm like, oh, no, this one. And it's not supposed to be fun
Adam
funny, but you know, you know, you
Ders
put a little extra. The hood was Up. Yeah. But then as I got cast, I go, that said what? She let me think I was like
Blake
something, Bro, she gifted you, though. You could have been.
Adam
That's rough though.
Blake
That was like your Oscar moment, dude, if you would have took it seriously. Come on.
Ders
Good point. Hey, could have, would have, should have. Hey, thanks, dude. I like to see how you live.
Blake
I wish we knew each other. Let's run for mayor.
Adam
So in the book. In the book, Christos Chris is a 15 year old boy who uses a wheelchair due to a degenerative muscle disease. Oh, yeah, he didn't have down syndrome.
Ders
Can I tell you something? Just the way.
Adam
Just the way you played it.
Ders
This was 30 something years ago. I just remember he was like. He like, couldn't talk and was in a fucking wheelchair.
Adam
And was this like the lead or.
Ders
No, it's like a ensemble.
Adam
You're fucking disaster.
Blake
My guy.
Ders
Don't even remember what the book was about.
Blake
Yeah, I don't know, Christos. I don't think I. I don't think we read that.
Adam
We did not read that. Over here.
Blake
No, I've never heard of that book.
Ders
What is the Westing Game?
Blake
The Westing Game.
Ders
They need to start burning some of these books. This should have been banned, I'll tell you that.
Blake
Dude. Dude, I like. This is the kind of shit I'm into, though. Like, I bet. I bet this book is good. Yeah, I bet this book is good.
Adam
What book? The Western Game. Why? Why do you say that?
Blake
Just because if you're reading it in school.
Adam
See, this is what I'm saying, Blake, you got to say more words.
Blake
Okay? Because, like, I remember, like, I. There was a time when I like, went on Insta Stories and I'm like. Because I found this book in a used bookstore where I'm like, this was the first, like, novel I read outside of school and I posted it and people. It was called the. The Legend of the Blue Lights or something. But then everybody started to post the first books they ever read. And a lot of people said it was this book called the Giver. And I read it and that book was actually cool, dude. It was like an easy read, went right through it. But it was like the Giving Tree. No, it's called the Giver.
Ders
Super is pictures and shit, right? Yeah, I believe you.
Blake
Yeah.
Adam
No, you said you posted about it a couple weeks ago. Yeah, it was called the Give. The Giver. Yeah, I think. I think you're right.
Ders
I do love someone who reads books. Listening to us go books can actually be kind of sick.
Blake
Dude, they're sick.
Ders
Of course they are.
Adam
I know. And you're like, it was actually a quick read because. Well, it's a y book for children, middle schoolers.
Blake
Well, but it would know. But it wasn't. It's not like. It's not like, like, you know, it's not like the. The. The stories you read at bed. In bed at night. That's not. Busy world.
Adam
Well, yeah, it's not for like elementary school kids, but for middle school age kids that can read.
Blake
It had. It was. It was kind of mind blowing. Dude, the giver has big concepts.
Ders
If it's not a Calat award.
Adam
It was a chapter book, so.
Blake
Yeah. Yes, but it was good. It was good, man. It. And it like ended. It had like the ending, like, kind of makes you think. And I'm like, what are more books like this that are.
Ders
This is. This is exactly what I'm saying. Keep going. Any reader out there is like, dude,
Adam
you have to run for mayor.
Blake
I could maybe win. Yo. These laws. West End game. I think the West End game is pretty good. I've got a feeling it might be pretty good.
Ders
Check it out.
Adam
It's not Hatchet by Gary Pson. I'll say that. It's definitely not.
Ders
What.
Blake
Which is another one that was mentioned quite a bit. The Hatchet, of course, is a goated book.
Ders
You guys ever read White Fang?
Blake
Unreal. White Fang.
Adam
I saw the movie.
Ders
No, no. White thing.
Adam
A white thing.
Blake
White thing.
Ders
You guys. Every white thing.
Adam
No, that was only at your school.
Blake
Who wrote that?
Ders
I'm still writing it.
Adam
Bullet, you are so dumb.
Ders
Damn.
Blake
White. White thing.
Ders
That was. My nickname was White.
Blake
Owner's Home has released a. A new young adult novel called White Fan.
Ders
I'm going have AI Rew write White Fang and I'm just going to go. Whatever you think White Fang is, write it.
Adam
Go write it.
Blake
Plug and play. Okay, Maybe AI isn't so bad. And I am voting for Spencer Pratt.
Ders
Why?
Adam
Every once in a while, I will deliver something pretty funny and.
Blake
No, it knows what it's doing. It's a. It's a good time.
Adam
Any take backs? Any apologies? Any epic slams today?
Ders
I'm sorry, what we said about Spencer Pratt, that's just not okay. Dude, we can't do that.
Adam
Yeah, why can't we?
Blake
This was actually very politically charged, charged.
Ders
You know, it's funny, it made me think when. When Chappelle. When. When Trump won maybe the first time, and Chappelle went on SNL and he was like, you know, I didn't Vote for this guy, but I wish him the best. Like, that did not work out. Well, depending on. Hey, depending on where. How you lean. But you know, the.
Blake
Do you have political perin. What is the penis disease Pey. Yeah, Political. Yeah. Which way do you lean?
Ders
But the part of me wants to say, like, I mean, hell, give him a shot. It's like, no, stop. There's no shot.
Adam
Do not give that guy a shot.
Ders
He's just gonna be like, can I go on ride alongs and shoot people? Like, you think I'm the mayor. You think I'm joking? But I promise you, Trump's been like, if I could get into one of those tanks, I'd do it, and I'd blow up a school myself.
Blake
This is where I think it really, like, spawns from. Is like. As we talk about it, I'm like, what sucks? Is like, I bet if we collectively were like, yo, Spencer Pratt, what's up?
Adam
Up?
Blake
Like, if you get in power, I bet we could do a lot of fun stuff together. Right? And he'd be like, yeah, I'm bringing you with me.
Ders
I promise you. He'd be like, you guys are nerds.
Blake
Everybody's coming.
Ders
I promise you.
Adam
I bet. I bet.
Ders
I bet he was like an evil reality high school reality show. High school guy.
Adam
Yeah. And he was like a super rich. He wouldn't with us. Yeah, I get.
Blake
I don't know anything about. About him, to be honest. And I.
Adam
He seems like he wouldn't with us.
Blake
Yeah, I bet he. Everybody's coming.
Ders
Everybody's coming.
Adam
All right, well, I'd have nothing to take back. I have nothing to take back for. For this.
Ders
Blake, you're the only one who gets to vote then. So who are you voting for?
Blake
I don't know yet.
Ders
As soon as Blake says he's gonna vote for, then we hang up.
Blake
And that was another episode. I don't know yet. I don't know.
Adam
I. I got undecided. He hasn't. He doesn't know the other two.
Ders
Undecided.
Blake
I do.
Adam
I do.
Ders
I do.
Blake
I do.
Adam
And I refute Nymphia and Karen.
Blake
Yes, I know. I know. The big bass.
Ders
You pulling some bass?
Blake
Big mouth bass.
Ders
Big mouth bass. That's pretty funny. How. How has he not called her that? The gift.
Adam
Oh, and also, don't forget John Logsdon.
Ders
Oh, is that the guy who recorded the show? Yeah.
Adam
Who helped us at the Troubadour show He's running.
Blake
Yes.
Ders
Hold up the QR code, if you have it right there.
Blake
Holy.
Adam
I don't He.
Blake
He's running. Yeah, we got to vote for him.
Adam
You could just run. You could just run for mayor.
Ders
Let's explain this. We did our show at the Troubadour, and immediately after, the guy who, like, set it up to be filmed, who works in the film business and was part of the festival, was like, by the way, I'm running for mayor.
Adam
Run for mayor, dude.
Ders
I have to. I don't know what's happening, but somebody needs to do something. And he gave us, like, his bright brochure and a little business card with a QR code.
Adam
Lost it immediately, but yeah, Todd. Todd just put it in the chat, so.
Blake
That's right, dude. But, dude, I'm voting for.
Ders
He's got my vote, even though I can't. I live outside of la.
Blake
Logs Dawn. I'm voting for Logs, Dawn.
Adam
You live outside, so you can't vote. Is that. Is that right?
Ders
Cash me outside.
Blake
I live outside.
Adam
Cash you outside. How about that?
Blake
I live outside.
Adam
All right, that was another episode of this is important.
Ders
Important.
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Dad, Lingokids, please?
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No idea.
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Release Date: June 2, 2026
Hosts: Adam Devine, Anders Holm (Ders), Blake Anderson
Network: iHeartPodcasts
In this episode, Adam, Anders, and Blake return for another loose, wildly funny, and unfiltered roundtable discussion that veers from pop culture to politics, technology, and personal anecdotes. Anchored in their signature banter, they riff on the surreal state of reality TV, the rise of AI, and the absolute circus of contemporary political campaigns—specifically the ongoing LA mayoral race and Spencer Pratt’s bid for office. Along the way, they muse on nostalgia, their own potential political aspirations, and the weird future ahead, all while keeping the laughs rolling and the insights poignant.
Timestamps: 03:09-07:16
Timestamps: 08:14-15:33
Timestamps: 16:44-23:01 & 26:14-31:31
Timestamps: 32:28-43:01
Timestamps: 47:32-53:39
Timestamps: 61:03-63:40
Timestamps: 64:21-67:31
| Time | Segment | |------|---------| | 03:09–07:16 | Podcaster mystery personas & content meta-jokes | | 08:14–15:33 | Reality TV nostalgia & Jury Duty deep dive | | 16:44–23:01 | The LA mayor race, Spencer Pratt, campaign AI | | 26:14–31:31 | Politics, viral moments, “three-headed mayor” bit | | 32:28–43:01 | AI takeover, digital porn, existential dread | | 47:32–53:39 | NFT crash & art, masks, digital identity | | 61:03–63:40 | Childhood books & reading nostalgia | | 64:21–67:31 | Mayoral closing thoughts—John Logsdon’s campaign |
This episode captures the "This Is Important" gang at their best—openly riffing on the weirdness of culture and politics, digging into the absurdity of the AI age, and reflecting on nostalgia and personal growth. The conversational style is off-the-cuff but loaded with pointed insights and sharp humor, perfect for listeners curious about how three comedians process today's wild world.