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Podcast: This Is Woman's Work with Nicole Kalil
Episode: “Am I Being a B**ch? (…or Just Finally in My Power)” with Megan Walrod | #349
Air Date: October 1, 2025

Host Nicole Kalil and guest Megan Walrod, a women’s empowerment coach and author, unpack the gendered slur “bitch”—examining whether women’s self-advocacy is misperceived as negativity and how to tell the difference between genuine assertiveness and destructive behavior. Together, they challenge the “good girl” conditioning so many women have inherited, offering tools to claim personal power, set boundaries, and reframe negative self-talk. The discussion blends candid personal anecdotes, practical strategies, and a strong encouragement to reclaim one’s own narrative and power.

Main Discussion Points & Insights

Reclaiming Power from “Good Girl” Conditioning

[02:25–05:07]

• Opening Reflection: Nicole discusses how her upbringing and societal expectations taught her to be polite, accommodating, and nurturing—and how, when she advocates for herself, she questions, “Am I being a bitch?”
• She notes the internal tug of war: wanting to be bold and direct versus fearing negative perception.
• Quote—Nicole:

  “More often than not, I’m not actually being a bitch. I’m just not being what the world still expects women to be: sugar and spice and everything nice. Because that’s not me.” [03:44]

Megan Walrod’s Wake-Up Call: Advocating Without Apology

[05:07–07:36]

• Megan recounts a pivotal moment negotiating the terms for her debut novel’s contract. After advocating for her needs and pushing back, she felt intense anxiety and self-doubt.
• She describes the internal crossroads: Should she apologize and retreat, or stand firm?
• Quote—Megan:

  “I was seeing assertive communication through the lens of that good girl training and cultural conditioning that says, girlfriend, you’re doing something wrong.” [07:04]

Distortion vs. Authenticity: How to Tell the Difference

[07:36–12:46]

• Body Cues: Megan emphasizes tuning into physical sensations (nausea, contraction, short breath) as indicators of internalized stories.
  • She notes that discomfort doesn’t necessarily mean you’re wrong—it could be growing pains from breaking old patterns.
• Nicole discusses how, for her, unpleasant physical sensations (like a sick stomach) can signal both courage and regret; time and reflection help her discern the difference.
• Practice Makes Clarity: Both agree that only through repeated, conscious practice can women distinguish between genuine self-empowerment and old habits of self-doubt or shame.
• Quote—Megan:

  “Look for the cues in our bodies and look for the thought or the story in the mind. Because often the story is based on these invisible, unwritten rules that we've learned as women as part of our good girl training.” [09:19]

Generative vs. Destructive Assertiveness

[12:46–15:04]

• Megan introduces the concept of the “generative bitch” (someone who is bold, clear, and upholds boundaries) versus the “destructive bitch” (hostile, reactive).
  • Gives practical example: Staying firm but respectful when interrupted in meetings.
• Nicole raises concerns about the gendered nature of “bitch” and suggests “asshole” as a more universal term, prompting debate on reclaiming language.
• Quote—Megan:

  “If using [‘bitch’] gives you a sense of power, taps you into something that other time is stifled, go for it... The truth is, we rock the status quo when we are in our power.” [16:07]

Choice as the Root of Power

[18:12–19:43]

• Nicole and Megan agree that standing in power is about making conscious choices, not following scripts.
• Megan suggests playful daily experiments like asking, “How can I be a generative bitch today?” to practice boundary-setting and self-advocacy.

Managing “Head Trash” and the Inner Critic

[19:43–26:03]

• Nicole identifies self-critical thoughts (the “head trash”) as a huge confidence derailer.
  • She encourages listeners to treat these inner voices with curiosity, not hostility.
• Megan: Instead of fighting the inner critic, name it (“the doubting diva”) and approach it compassionately; recognize it as a protective—if misguided—mechanism.
• Shift from fighting the critic to asking: “Is there another way to see this?”
• Quote—Nicole:

  “We say shit about ourselves that we would never say out loud to anyone that we love. And yet... I can’t even imagine turning to my daughter and be like, are you being a bitch?” [19:56]

Creating New Patterns: Mindset Shifts & Neuroplasticity

[26:03–27:35]

• Megan uses the “snake in the dark room” metaphor—seeing threats where there are none, and how challenging those perceptions helps rewire the brain.
• Every time a new, empowering perspective is chosen, it carves healthier neural pathways.

Self-Awareness vs. Overthinking—How to Find Your Line

[27:35–33:17]

• Nicole wonders about people who seem genuinely difficult versus those misunderstood as assertive.
• Megan advises releasing the myth of a perfect “middle line.” The solution is practice and play: swing the pendulum to test boundaries both ways, learn what feels authentic, and give yourself permission to repair when you go too far.
• Quote—Megan:

  “I needed to swing [the pendulum] so far to find the middle ground. So permission to let your voice say all the things, permission to feel it in your body, explore it in safe places first… to then play with, so now how do I want to handle that with that person?” [29:29]

Signs You’re Not Swinging Far Enough—Cultural and Embodied Consequences

[33:17–36:18]

• Megan shares a personal story about her mother’s rheumatoid arthritis and the link between suppressed expression and women’s health.
• Offers practical exercises:
  • Reflect and Plan: After you “didn’t say the thing”—use it as motivation for next time.
  • The “Fuck You Walk:” Move your body and loudly vent all repressed frustration in a private space to reclaim your power.
• Quote—Megan:

  “When we take ourselves on these fuck you walks, we let it all get said... we move it through our body. We stop suppressing and we find our way to our power.” [35:30]

Closing Reflections: Redefining Woman’s Work

[36:53–37:18]

• Nicole closes with a rallying cry: Standing up for yourself isn’t bad behavior—it’s integrity, it’s confidence, it’s power.
• Quote—Nicole:

  “If somebody calls you a bitch, it might just be because you’re out there on your fuck you walk. And it’s definitely because you’re out there doing woman’s work.” [37:18]

Memorable Quotes & Timestamps

• “More often than not, I’m not actually being a bitch. I’m just not being what the world still expects women to be: sugar and spice and everything nice. Because that’s not me.”
  —Nicole Kalil [03:44]

• “I was seeing assertive communication through the lens of that good girl training and cultural conditioning that says, girlfriend, you’re doing something wrong.”
  —Megan Walrod [07:04]

• “Look for the cues in our bodies and look for the thought or the story in the mind...”
  —Megan Walrod [09:19]

• “If using [‘bitch’] gives you a sense of power... go for it. The truth is we rock the status quo when we are in our power.”
  —Megan Walrod [16:07]

• “We say shit about ourselves that we would never say out loud to anyone that we love.”
  —Nicole Kalil [19:56]

• “I needed to swing [the pendulum] so far to find the middle ground. So permission to let your voice say all the things...”
  —Megan Walrod [29:29]

• “When we take ourselves on these fuck you walks... we stop suppressing... and we find our way to our power.”
  —Megan Walrod [35:30]

• “If standing up for yourself makes you a bitch… then let’s be bitches. Because being honest, direct, and self-respecting – that’s not bad behavior. That’s integrity. It’s confidence.”
  —Nicole Kalil [36:53]

Key Takeaways

• Self-advocacy for women is often misinterpreted as negative—challenge this story by tuning into your body and asking new questions.
• Make space for experimentation—swing the pendulum, get comfortable with discomfort, and learn to repair when you go too far.
• Redefine “bitch” (or substitute language) on your own terms—your word, your power.
• Compassion towards your inner critic fosters true growth; name it, acknowledge it, and then choose your narrative.
• Physical embodiment and expressive exercises (like the ‘fuck you walk’) help move emotions and reclaim strength.

Additional Resources

• Megan Walrod’s website: MeganWalrod.com
• Her novel: It's Always Been Me

For more, see the episode show notes for links to Megan’s work and confidence-building resources.