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Theo Von
I've got some tour dates to tell you about. I'll be in Cedar Rapids, St. Paul, Minnesota, Fargo, North Dakota, Rapid City, South Dakota, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Rochester, New York, and Detroit, Michigan, all in June and July. Tickets available now at Theovon.com T O U R. Thank you so much for your support. Today's guest is a content creator, a restaurateur, and a comedian. He is from Malaysia and he found his way to the UK and America by doing comedy. He's known for his character Uncle Roger. Uncle Roger, a grumpy food critic who roasts celebrity chefs. And with that, he's gained more than 30 million followers. Quite the ride. With today's guest, I couldn't be more geeked to get to hang out with Nigel. Good.
Nigel Ng
All right.
Theo Von
What. What's the most vain Asians you think? Cuz Asians you don't think of. Cuz people think about Asians a lot, right?
Nigel Ng
Do they? Do they think about Asians a lot?
Theo Von
Oh, yeah.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Why? Why? Why would you think about this a lot?
Theo Von
Cuz I think it's fascinating.
Nigel Ng
Okay. Right.
Theo Von
Because people can't. Some people can't believe it. They see it. They. You show somebody, like you show a baby, an Asian or whatever, they. I think they'd be surprised kind of.
Nigel Ng
No, it looked the same. Smaller eyes, squintier eyes. That's it, you know.
Theo Von
Oh, that's a good point. Some of them are, I guess if you have a tall baby.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah, we are a little. Little squintier, a little flatter nose. That's it. Really? We're all the same, man. Yeah, Some of us can look whiter than you. Some of us can be fairer than white people.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, that's a good point. Huh?
Nigel Ng
Yeah. I think we should have the. We should have some white privilege.
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah. That's unfair.
Nigel Ng
I'm whiter than you. Look at this. Look at this shit.
Theo Von
Yeah, look at this honky. Look at this freaking sesame cracker.
Nigel Ng
Oh, thank you. Thanks for inviting me on here, Theo.
Theo Von
Dude, it's a pleasure, man. Thank you so much. No, what? What a. Nigel.
Nigel Ng
Nigel, Nigel, Nigel, Nigel. Yes.
Theo Von
And how do you say the last name?
Nigel Ng
It's a Southeast Asian Malaysian last name. That's where I'm from originally.
Theo Von
Yeah, that's the living. You got it. You're the damn living in word right there. I can't even.
Nigel Ng
I know. It's dangerous, isn't it? Oh, it's dangerous.
Theo Von
Yeah. Yeah, it is.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Just a few letters away.
Theo Von
It's risky, Nig.
Nigel Ng
There's No A in there, thankfully.
Theo Von
Yeah, but it's. There's enough there, I think, where it's a Bu. Like, people would be like, what's going on?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, There's. There's that Vietnamese. There's that meme of the Vietnamese restaurant. The name of the restaurant is B I C H N G A. Oh.
Theo Von
Just pronouncing. Just ordering food, huh?
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Just call it the Vietnamese. Yeah. There's one where there's a black guy narrating over it and saying, you can't tell me this is not.
Theo Von
You know. Yeah. Wow, brother. That's what I'm saying, man. But I also like. It's cafe all of the ribs. So this is a popular sound in. And you said you're from Malaysia.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah. That's not. In Vietnam, it would be Ng something.
Theo Von
Okay.
Nigel Ng
And nga Ng. U, Y, E, N, Gwyn. Right. But in Malaysia, Singapore and Hong Kong, you will see ng.
Theo Von
Ng.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, it's confusing. Yeah.
Theo Von
Yeah. I went to Malaysia one time when I was a student.
Nigel Ng
Oh, really?
Theo Von
Yeah. We went to. What's the capital?
Nigel Ng
Kuala Lumpur.
Theo Von
Kuala Lumpur. Yeah. For what we. I just was a student on this thing called Semester at Sea. It's like a floating school. And one of the stops was over there in Malaysia.
Nigel Ng
So we took a boat. Like a boat over there.
Theo Von
Like a cruise ship. You got. It's like a. Like a. Like a. Pull it up.
Nigel Ng
That's a long trip, man.
Theo Von
Oh, it was a long trip. We left out of Vancouver.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Canada.
Nigel Ng
That's how I got here. From the same boat, I think.
Theo Von
Oh, really?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, I just crawled onto your, you know, your boat without a visa.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, welcome. That's how most people are getting in, dude.
Nigel Ng
That's it. See, we are not the best tourist destination, though. Malaysia. You know, we're like a little, tiny little country. We live well there. The quality of life is pretty good. But we're not like a big tourist place.
Theo Von
Yeah, I think it felt like that. I think it felt like the beaches and then kind of. What do we do here? A little bit.
Nigel Ng
There's nothing to do there. You just eat and live. Live your life.
Theo Von
But are. But are. So I don't forget this. Are Malaysians the most vain? Who's the most vain?
Nigel Ng
Koreans, man.
Theo Von
Is it?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, like Korean Koreans. Not. Not Bobby Lee Korean. You know, Bobby Lee's. He. I think I was born here, right? He's. Yeah.
Theo Von
There's undeniable. That guy does not have a birth certificate. That's legitimate. You know what I'm saying?
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
He probably. He's obviously a pow, you know. Yeah, he has a very POW energy.
Nigel Ng
That's true.
Theo Von
And you have a lot of.
Nigel Ng
A lot of trauma, I think.
Theo Von
Yeah. You have a lot of burn marks on his back, too.
Nigel Ng
Oh, really?
Theo Von
Yeah, from cigarettes, I think from gambling issues. But people say different things, you know.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. But I think Koreans are the Venus Asians, man. They have a whole skincare. They're known for skin care. The whole country is known for skincare and plastic surgery.
Theo Von
Oh, really?
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Bring up some of that Asian skin care.
Nigel Ng
It's lots of stuff, man. They put snail. That snail juice. You know, when a snail crawls, it leaves behind like a. A trail of goo.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
They put that on their skin.
Theo Von
No way.
Nigel Ng
Look at, look at, look at that woman. She's like glowing. Look at that.
Theo Von
Oh, they got some porch lamp Asians over there. Yeah, yeah. That's why I think they already. Some people look dead already because they just are. Preserved.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, preserved.
Theo Von
Well, bring up that snail juice thing. I want to see that.
Nigel Ng
Can we get something about the Google snail mucin? M U C I N. Yeah, that's why I have a. I have a joke about this that I do in my act that it's hard to find Asian pedophiles because, you know, they all look like they're 12, but they're actually 35. You know, why would you take the risk on an illegal one, you know?
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, you'll find you're just molesting yourself.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Just molesting your people. And then you're like, oh, they look 16.
Theo Von
Advanced.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, that. That kind of. That kind of thing.
Theo Von
Advanced snail 96 mucin power essence. Lightweight essence, which absorbs into the skin fast to give skin a natural glow from the inside. This essence is created from nutritious, low stimulation, filtered snail mucin to keep your skin moisturized and illuminated all day. Wow.
Nigel Ng
It's good marketing. Marketing writing, right?
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
I don't know how. How real it is. How do you know it's actually snail mucin?
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
You know, it could just be water and sugar and cornstarch.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah. They could have anything in there.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, they don't do that kind of. I think that's ye. Yeah, I think they just.
Theo Von
Very Asian right there.
Nigel Ng
No, it's a white woman doing it.
Theo Von
Yeah. But we learned it from you guys. I mean, that is Cheekbones sashimi.
Nigel Ng
That's true, that's true. We bring a lot to the world.
Theo Von
Oh, that's so wild. So that's a real thing that people are buying this and how much does it go for? Give me how much for a quart of it.
Nigel Ng
Oh, CVS has it. No, go get some later on.
Theo Von
Really?
Nigel Ng
$24.99.
Theo Von
$24.99 for over seven and a half ounces?
Nigel Ng
Yeah. You don't need it. You have good skin, man.
Theo Von
I'm okay, but, you know, everybody wants to do a little bit more. But how do you even farm it out of them? Do you follow right behind him with a little scooper?
Nigel Ng
I don't know, man. Maybe they just have a whole cage full of snails and.
Theo Von
Oh. And maybe it's like a. The floor has.
Nigel Ng
It just drips down into a bucket or something. I haven't thought of. I haven't thought of this. Forcing snail to release mucin through harsh treatment, like dunking them in salt water.
Theo Von
No way.
Nigel Ng
That's very. That's very mean.
Theo Von
This was probably taught by a lot of the forces in Vietnam. Some of this is illegal. Some of the. Go back to it. Some of the. This is considered waterboarding, I think. Snail mucin, a popular skincare ingredient, is collected from live snails through various methods, some more humane than others. Traditional methods involve forcing snails to release mucin through harsh treatment, like dunking them in salt water or chemicals.
Nigel Ng
It's like killing a whole family just so someone can have like, smoother skin.
Theo Von
Oh. Many companies now use methods like gentle stimulation or allowing snails to naturally excrete mucin on mesh nets, ensuring their well being. Wow.
Nigel Ng
What's gentle stimulation for a snail?
Theo Von
You know, I think just a little.
Nigel Ng
Little, little fingering action on.
Theo Von
Just petting, petting, Heavy petting. Maybe listening to some. What's a popular Malaysian like love musician or band have?
Nigel Ng
We don't really have that. You can, you can use an American musician. I'll probably. Some Marvin Gaye, I guess you can play some Marvin Gaye.
Theo Von
Some Malarvin Gaye. Is that fair?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Theo Von
If we had some Malevan Gay.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
And we played that, that would be beautiful. Let's get it on.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
And you just touching that snail's back.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah. A few snails, not just one.
Theo Von
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Nigel Ng
Just four. Play with one snail.
Theo Von
Yeah, that's weird.
Nigel Ng
They move too slow.
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah. You got to get a little batch.
Nigel Ng
It's like, you know how that. That chess movie where the one person is playing against 10 chess as you against 10 snails, just.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, you just play. It's almost like one of those. It's like that thing where those things are dropping and you're catching Them, you know.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah, I like it.
Theo Von
Nigel, good to see you, man.
Nigel Ng
Good to see you too, man.
Theo Von
Thank you for all of the entertainment, man. You definitely.
Nigel Ng
I make too many videos, man. That's the life of a YouTube person, you know.
Theo Von
It is, huh?
Nigel Ng
Yeah. I got my start. I started doing stand up 2010, 2011.
Theo Von
You had a special that came out a few years ago, right?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did release on a Moment House. Yeah. Have you used that platform before? You just sell tickets, People buy it and they watch it. Yeah. But I'm gonna whack it on my YouTube eventually.
Theo Von
Moment House.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah.
Theo Von
Is it live performance on Moment House or is it. You just tape it, put it up and then there's a premiere?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah, something like that. I think Andrew Schultz did it here. Oh, yeah, that kind of thing.
Theo Von
And you started to. Were you. You born in Malaysia?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah, I was born in Malaysia and then I went to. Lived there for 20 years of my life. Then I went to university. I went to Northwestern in Illinois, near Chicago.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Nigel Ng
Then. Then I moved to the UK for a few years. For eight years. Then I'm back here in la.
Theo Von
What are Malaysian? Because I don't know a ton about the Malay. Right?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah. Me there. Really?
Theo Von
You don't.
Nigel Ng
You know, you have so many different races there, you know, in Malaysia. Yeah. There's Chinese, Malaysian, which I'm, I'm, I'm that Malay Malaysians and Indian Malaysians and we don't really make. So pretty segregated, you know.
Theo Von
Really?
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
So there's beef between what type of Malaysian you are.
Nigel Ng
There's no beef. We just don't really care as much if you're not part of the. The group.
Theo Von
Oh, I see.
Nigel Ng
It's very peaceful.
Theo Von
It's very peaceful.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
So it's not violent, but it's still like you just kind of stick with your tribe.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah. We try to venture out, but, you know, sometimes it's hard to eat different things and their limitations to what Malays can eat, you know.
Theo Von
Oh, Malaysians can't eat everything.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, well, Malay. Malaysians are Malay.
Theo Von
Malay, they're Muslim.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. So they, they can't eat pork. Right. And also in, in Malaysia, certain restaurants need to be Halal certified for Malay people to eat in. If you, if a Malay person is caught eating at a non halal restaurant, depending on where you are, it could be, you know, you could get into trouble, basically. Yeah. So there's that, that, those little things. But we overall we're pretty peaceful and we like each other.
Theo Von
You like each other, but every now and then there's a little bit of Mongolian beef with each other. Yeah, I feel that.
Nigel Ng
I've had that.
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah.
Nigel Ng
It's okay.
Theo Von
It's ok.
Nigel Ng
It's bad American Chinese shit.
Theo Von
It's travesty. It's something you just. It's something you fill your jaw with while you look at through Target.
Nigel Ng
It's nice at an airport, you know, you get an airport, Panda Express, you know, it's the best thing there.
Theo Von
Yeah, it's good, but it's a lot of sugar, though.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, sugar is good, but sugar, Sugar, come on.
Theo Von
I like it, but I just know it doesn't it. I know it's secretly plotting against me. That's what I feel like.
Nigel Ng
Really? Sugar is flooding against you.
Theo Von
Well, I feel like it gets in your system and it knows it's going to win because it's like a deteriorate. Deteriorant.
Nigel Ng
Deteriorate.
Theo Von
It deteriorates you.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Well, most things do, though. Most things that taste good are deterrence. You know, Cholesterol, fats, butter, olive oil. Yeah, yeah.
Theo Von
Even vagina.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That it takes. It ruins your time, really, just chasing vagina all the time. And I'm glad I'm out of that phase of my life now.
Theo Von
Yeah, that's what I heard. I heard that you got married. You're married a couple of years now.
Nigel Ng
Well, I'm, I'm engaged a couple years now, but I'm getting married in July.
Theo Von
Oh, you're getting married in two months?
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
No way. And so is this a traditional Malaysian wedding?
Nigel Ng
No, no, we're doing it in Europe. My, my fiance is American. She's from Miami. Well, South Florida.
Theo Von
Okay.
Nigel Ng
You know.
Theo Von
And was it scary for you to choose a fiance? Had you. How had dating been like for you in your life?
Nigel Ng
Well, I've been married before. Yeah. Married young, divorce young.
Theo Von
Do you have.
Nigel Ng
I recommend that. Get that out the way, you know, that's, that's, that's my fiance. Say.
Theo Von
Sorry. YouTube's Uncle Roger shares photos from engagement shoot with fiance Sabrina. A beautiful couple.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, she's cute.
Theo Von
Congratulations.
Nigel Ng
Well, you know, so I, I, I, I got her. I was like, lock it in. You know, can't do any better than that.
Theo Von
So that's, that's when men, that's when men lock it in. They're like, this is it.
Nigel Ng
Yep. She's nice, she's hot, she's smart. All right, let's do it.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Way better than the previous one, you know?
Theo Von
Oh, really?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, the previous one, she was fine but she just end up, grew apart, you know, didn't fit well. I was really doing stand up hardcore at the time and it just takes a toll on your relationship.
Theo Von
Oh yeah, you can't have a relate if you're doing stand up. I think it's impossible, you know, because also the hours that you're out, it's very like.
Nigel Ng
And I had a day job too, so I was like 9 to 5 at the day job then I was doing this, all this in the uk. So after, after my day job finishes, I'll just take a long train up to Birmingham or something. The middle of the UK from London, two hour train, do my set, come back, arrive home at 1. All I see her is sleeping. She just sees me sleeping. I see her sleeping. And then seven years later, hey, we're not the same person anymore. Okay. Who would have guessed?
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're awake.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, we're awake. And I don't like you when we're awake.
Theo Von
That's some issues with a lot of marriages, I think. Yeah, marriages go to bed. Yeah.
Nigel Ng
I like you more when you're unconsc this.
Theo Von
In Malaysia. Is it popular and sorry because we've never had a Malaysian guest.
Nigel Ng
You should get Ronnie Chang next.
Theo Von
I've messaged about it. He's so funny. I got, we got to do it. He's Malaysian.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Theo Von
So some people keeping secret then? Because I didn't know that.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
But I would love to see is in Malaysia. I just want to learn about a little bit of the tradition of the place.
Nigel Ng
Okay.
Theo Von
So do you have to. Is it arranged marriage or what is dating like there?
Nigel Ng
No, it's not arranged at all. Okay. Yeah, you got to find someone. We got incels there too. You know, arranged marriages would be a great solution to the incel problem, wouldn't it?
Theo Von
And when incels you say, what do you mean people incels? You know like gamers or whatever.
Nigel Ng
They can be incels. Some of them. You know there's a whole movement, isn't there on the. The Reddit people, the, the right blue pill, red pill, black pill, some something pill. The incels who they can't get laid and then they start hating on women, that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. But no, no, in Malaysia it's all. It's not arranged. You have to arrange it for yourself.
Theo Von
Yeah. Their gamer tag is like these are ruin.
Nigel Ng
Thailand to sleep with some hoes, you know?
Theo Von
Yeah. Oh, that kind of thing.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. But that's not. We don't really have that either. That's why I'm saying in Malaysia, there's not much to do. In Thailand, there's that. There's beaches, there's the. The red light district. Bali, there's beaches. And, you know, other places have other things. Vietnam has the beaches and beaches and hoes, really all of Asia, really, except for Malaysia. So we are a bit boring.
Theo Von
And why is there a different. Do they outlaw that kind of stuff there? So they must have. Because it seems like you would just keep a stricter. Yeah. Why don't they have that prostitution and stuff like that and. Or just put some people to say hoes. Fun hoes. Yeah, fun money, hoes.
Nigel Ng
It's probably the religion thing. It's majority Muslim.
Theo Von
Okay.
Nigel Ng
Malaysia. So maybe that. That's frowned upon a little bit more. I'm sure you can find some. Maybe some like sugar baby type arrangement, right? Yeah, but I've never really.
Theo Von
Secret. Secret ho. Secret.
Nigel Ng
Oh, there's. There's an app for that. I think it's called Sugar Book.
Theo Von
Sugar Book.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, look it up. It's a big app in Asia. And I know. I know this app exists in Malaysia, so it's like a dating app. Let's see, you know, where romance meets finance. There you go.
Theo Von
Where romance meets finance. Oh, definitely. I mean, what about $40 a week?
Nigel Ng
It goes far, man. It goes. The US dollar goes far in Asia, dude.
Theo Von
What if our podcast. We sponsored a couple of sugar. We book some sugar.
Nigel Ng
Book some sugar. It's a deterrent, you know.
Theo Von
Oh, definitely. I could see it ruining a lot of things.
Nigel Ng
How many episodes of a pod you put out a week is gonna get that number? Way down, man.
Theo Von
But what if we book some sugar, right?
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
And we just support it and every now and then they just check in, but there's. They don't have to do anything sexual. We have them maybe get a good hobby.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Maybe help around the neighborhood, clean up, pick up trash or something.
Nigel Ng
That would be nice. I'm sure they'll be down. This is. This is safer than you know. You know that the only fans model will fly to Dubai and they get shat on.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
You know that Sugar book is a safer alternative, you know.
Theo Von
Oh, I'm a huge sugar Book fan all of a sudden.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
I think it's good. But I do. I would love to look into Nick, maybe the price of. If we could sponsor a couple of good women. Sugar, sugar, sugar, sugary sugar girls.
Nigel Ng
I think a grand a month. Oh, that's. Yeah, that's a lot.
Theo Von
I mean, you said it goes far over there. Dude, I'm talking 80, maybe 120. Okay.
Nigel Ng
You would get a different quality of women for 80, but that's okay.
Theo Von
But would it be great to sponsor that lady? Let her just say, hey, take the week off.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Go relax. Go for a run or something.
Nigel Ng
Okay. Yeah, that would be good. Sign up for something.
Theo Von
That would be great. And we could support the infrastructure over there.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Is family big over there? Is that like a big thing? What's it like there that you notice that's different between Malaysia and US or UK culture?
Nigel Ng
I think it's. It's really the difference between Asia and the west, really. Family is big. People live with their parents, and it's socially acceptable to do that.
Theo Von
Right.
Nigel Ng
And then when the parents get old, we don't really send them to homes, you know, we. We bring them into our own home.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah.
Nigel Ng
Instead of sending them to a nursing home.
Theo Von
It's better, huh?
Nigel Ng
It's nice, I think. Yeah. But I. What I like about the west is everybody. Everybody's so confident and they have an opinion and they're not afraid to express it. And sometimes in Asia, because you are taught a little bit more, just obey, obey, obey. You don't really have that. That confidence and assertiveness, and sometimes that doesn't work. Well here. If you're an Asian person in the west and you have a corporate job and you just keep to yourself, you miss out on promotions because you're just not. You're just not, you know, speaking enough and not bullshitting enough and not, you know, building that social relationship enough.
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah. And do Asian people want to say more? Like, do they have a feel side of them were like, I want to speak up, but I don't think it's appropriate. Or is it, I'm afraid, or it's just not part of their capability, natural capability.
Nigel Ng
I think it's all those things. I think it's cultural. It's like, I'm afraid. Why don't I just mind my own business, you know, Put your head down and work hard. Sometimes that doesn't work out well. You know, you can't just put your head down. You gotta put your head up and look at the world and talk some.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, dude.
Nigel Ng
That's what stand up is, right?
Theo Von
Yeah. Oh, you have your head down for a half hour. Somebody will start you around here, you know, it's a dangerous area.
Nigel Ng
Ever have your head down?
Theo Von
Oh, yeah. Some freaking Narcan monkey will start freaking jacking you from the back over there. You know? Yeah. So it's definitely. You got to have your head up, man.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Is there something do you think that Americans could do to better support Asian people? Like, to like, like ask more, like, is there something like, you know what I'm saying? Like, because sometimes there's never this communication about how culture should interact and we're all just left to figure it out. You.
Nigel Ng
You ask me like, I'm the leader of all the Asians, but you came.
Theo Von
The door's been open for many moons.
Nigel Ng
Anybody can come.
Theo Von
Anybody.
Nigel Ng
I mean, just. Just come legally. I hear they're cracking down on that a little bit. Just wipe your phone, you know, Wipe your phone before you come. What can you do? Honestly, I enjoy living in LA because I feel like the Asian food here is probably some of the best in the world. Maybe New York is better, I don't know. But here I just drive 20 minutes to San Gabriel, Val. There's all the Chinese and Taiwanese people, and then There's Koreatown, a 10 minute drive from me. Then Little Tokyo. You just. I like that. Just don't with us. Let us do our thing.
Theo Von
Okay.
Nigel Ng
And everybody's happy, you know, Just enjoy. Just enjoy. Enjoy our food.
Theo Von
Enjoy the food. Yeah, it's great food. Yeah, it's a lot of good stuff.
Nigel Ng
It's not like when I do the Laugh Factory, they just, oh, don't let me on, because I'm Asian. So I feel like I get the. No, no, no, they don't do that. I get the same opportunities, I think.
Theo Von
So unorganized over there. It seems like. I hate to say that, but people. Everybody's been saying it, but they've been.
Nigel Ng
Good to me, you know.
Theo Von
They've been good to you.
Nigel Ng
I like the audiences there because it's like you get such a tourist crowd, Right. Oh. So I feel like I'm playing to all of America, you know, West Coast, east coast, middle.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
Everywhere. The South. And I think if a joke works there, you know, you can take it on the road with you.
Theo Von
Yeah, it's a good point, I think. I think one thing that makes it tough in there is the lighting. The way the lighting, like the whole room is kind of lit up.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
And so I think it creates an ambiance there sometimes where the audience is more involved in the show.
Nigel Ng
That's true. You can see everyone.
Theo Von
Right. And then they feel like they're supposed to be involved because they're kind of not protected from this, like the, you know, because usually the audience is kind of in the dark.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, I see that.
Theo Von
And so Asian families, Malaysian families, a lot of times you'll live at home.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, it's common. More common than here, you know.
Theo Von
Cool, man.
Nigel Ng
And right now in la, hopefully, you know, if things go well, I can buy a slightly bigger house with an adu, then fly my mom over, you know, let her stay with us for what is a few months. Oh, like a adu is like what? Additional dwelling unit.
Theo Von
Okay.
Nigel Ng
So like a separate guest house, Like.
Theo Von
A casita or something.
Nigel Ng
A casita, yeah. The accessory.
Theo Von
Accessory dwelling unit, secondary residential dwelling unit located on the same lot as a primary residence.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
And so essentially a smaller separate living space.
Nigel Ng
So a smaller house for the. The mom and the mother in law with their own kitchen. Because Asian cooking can and stink up a house. It's delicious, but during the cooking process, it. It smells.
Theo Von
It's bad.
Nigel Ng
It's bad. It smells bad, but it tastes good.
Theo Von
Why? What are some of the. Is it because it's a lot of, I'm guessing fish maybe, or shrimp paste. Oh, God, yeah.
Nigel Ng
And then pepper paste. A lot of pork. You know how you cook bacon. The whole house smells like bacon.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
A lot of pork, a lot of garlic. Shrimp paste. You know, sometimes fermented shrimp paste. Oh, fish sauces.
Theo Von
Why? But why?
Nigel Ng
Why? It tastes good, man. Yeah, it tastes good. It adds a different sort of flavor. It adds this thing called umami to your food. Yeah. Try it.
Theo Von
Umami means what?
Nigel Ng
Umami is like. You know how the tongue can taste like four flavors. Sweet, sour, salty, and bitter. Umami is like the fifth flavor. It's a meaty, meaty savoriness. Yeah.
Theo Von
Umami is one of the five basic taste sensations, along with a sweet, sour, salty and bitter.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
And is often described as a savory or meaty flavor.
Nigel Ng
Cheese has a lot of it. You see cheese. So when you eat pizza, that's why it's so good, you know?
Theo Von
Oh. It is perceived through taste receptors that respond to compounds like glutamate. I knowsis. I knowsinate. And guanylate.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Which are abundant in foods such as meat, cheese, tomatoes, and mushrooms.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. I'll bring you around some Asian restaurants. Food is my thing. You know, I do comedy about food now. Yeah, yeah.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, I know. I got to. I want to get into some of that. I want to ask you. I'm just trying to get a little bit more idea of Malaysia, just of what it feels like to be Malaysia, because you don't hear a ton about it. And the biggest thing you heard about probably is the plane that you guys Lost.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, we still lost, man.
Theo Von
Is it really?
Nigel Ng
Still can't find it. Oh, it's crazy.
Theo Von
What's the word over there? Bring that up. Malaysian370 what's going on with it?
Nigel Ng
I think and the most I've gone into a rabbit hole about this. And also Kathleen Madigan, she's a comic here and she has the best bit it. If you want to get the best stand up routine about Malaysian Airlines, go search Kathleen Madigan MH370 okay. But my theory is the pilot wanted to kill himself and so he just. Because of the way the plane swerved. The plane, the path the plane took. It swerved past his hometown first before riding off into the Indian Ocean. So he just swerved past his hometown. Just take one last peek by. But by that point all the passengers on the plane were already unconscious.
Theo Von
Really close to the pressure.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, he depressurized the plane. But then the, the cockpit. The pressure stays on for a little bit longer. So you're just taking one last peek at his hometown and then just driving off into the sunset and ocean.
Theo Von
It's almost kind of.
Nigel Ng
It's romantic.
Theo Von
That's what I was going to say.
Nigel Ng
Don't give them any ideas, man. United Airlines don't need to hear this.
Theo Von
I hate to say this but it sounds a little bit romantic. Yeah, let's play one clip right here. What do we have?
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Disturbing reason for the plane's disappearance on and off Search efforts have failed to locate the plane which disappeared with 239 people on board more than four years ago. 60 Minutes Australia brought together an international group of aviation experts who say that the plane's pilot crashed the flight intentionally. Joining me now to discuss the CBSP contributor and. And former chairman of the national company for sure. And it looks like he probably shorted the Malaysia Airlines. He definitely is, dude. First, the flight path that was reconstructed using military radar. What was suspicious about that? Well, the, the plan showed that he was going in and out of various countries between Thailand and Malaysia. One would have thought based on that pattern that someone would have sent up some military aircraft to look at them. But according to the television experts, they said he did this on purpose to evade the military radar. Well, one of the experts.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, what do you expect, you know?
Theo Von
Yeah, what do you expect? And it's like people like something. It's like hide and go seek. They never found the guy and people were just wondering where he is.
Nigel Ng
We find like a part of a wing every two years. You know, it's like a little fun, little treasure Hunt. Yeah, it comes up. I keep. I keep track of this, man. This is. This is my true crime.
Theo Von
Oh, it is.
Nigel Ng
You know, it's the only thing people know us for, and I love it.
Theo Von
But also, in a way, it's almost beautiful, like a place so, like, it almost makes it mystical in a way.
Nigel Ng
Malaysia.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
Thanks. You know, one. One big. The biggest thing that when my fiance, when she traveled to Malaysia for the first time, she's American, right? So the biggest thing she noticed is. Yeah. She told me she's never seen. Seen Muslim people who look Asian. I would say that is the biggest. Not culture shock, but the biggest observation you'll get. They look like me, but they're Muslim.
Theo Von
Oh, that's a surprise.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Yeah. Over in the US you don't see none of that.
Theo Von
No. Do you see nothing like that? Yeah, yeah. You see, a lot of people call Muslims slims or whatever is like a nickname or.
Nigel Ng
Slims.
Theo Von
Yeah, it's like a good. It's like a new. I don't want to say racial slur.
Nigel Ng
But it is what it sounds like. It almost. One syllable, you know, just.
Theo Von
Yeah, look at these slims, right?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, look at this.
Theo Von
But I like it. I like. You know, Muslims are definitely really interesting.
Nigel Ng
I've been learning Muslims in Malaysia, you know. Well, everybody in Malaysia, they're not slim, though. We are like a fat country.
Theo Von
Oh, it's fat country.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. We're catching up to you guys.
Theo Von
Oh, fat.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
And people die early or what? How long are people living over there in Malaysia? Put up a. Bring up a court, not a corpse. Bring up a website. Bring up a link.
Nigel Ng
We love our sugary foods. We love our fatty foods. That's why people.
Theo Von
Fat dying. Yeah, Fat dying. That'd be a name of somebody. I feel like. Fat dying.
Nigel Ng
Fat dying. That's a Vietnamese name. P, H A T D A, E, N, G or something.
Theo Von
Fat dying.
Nigel Ng
Malaysia. 76.
Theo Von
76 years in Malaysia.
Nigel Ng
What's the American average lifespan? I feel like you beat us. Our healthcare system's better, though. Well, so tell you about it in a second.
Theo Von
It might even out.
Nigel Ng
77.
Theo Von
Oh, okay.
Nigel Ng
So one year longer to eight months.
Theo Von
Longer, but still enough to point and.
Nigel Ng
Laugh, you know, your final years.
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Nigel Ng
I think there are lots of theories, right? And some people say they just entered the Bermuda Triangle and they're all still alive. But yeah, I think. I think they're all dead. He just drove the plane until he ran out of gas and it just sunk into the ocean. Everybody was unconscious though, so they didn't have that really scary moment. Right.
Theo Von
Nice.
Nigel Ng
I think it's like a less tragic situation than 9 11. You know, 9 11, they're all conscious. They knew they were flying into that building. Yeah, right.
Theo Von
And some people were probably trying to hurry up and get their Luggage. Because I hate it when people get up on a plane early before atlant stops or whatever.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. You know, they're up ruffling through the overhead storage.
Theo Von
Some hurried ass, some business like I gotta, I gotta get off first. It's like we're.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, we're dead.
Theo Von
Yeah. It's just crazy. But you can. I hate when people get up early before the plane is like at the gate, you know.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. And the flight attendants will tell you, please sit down, the seatbelt light's still on. Yeah, I know. Do you fly a lot when you tour around the U.S. oh, yeah. Or just a big. The. The. My conception, my concept of U. S. Touring is a big ass tour bus with your face on the side of it. Oh, no face, no face.
Theo Von
No. I think that would be too ego. I think I wouldn't let my face. Because I don't want people to know. Like I don't want people coming and looking for me. Or, you know, you already have. At night they'll have some. If you do a show in a town, sometimes we'll be in a tour bus.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah.
Theo Von
And see if you bring up.
Nigel Ng
You can put your face on a different bus. You ride a nondescript bus. You put your face at a different bus. Just like the LA city transit bus. Just.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
Space. Just riding around.
Theo Von
It's just like a Greyhound bus, like going through Mississippi. It's like, follow us to the next show and you get there and it's just a bunch of like people who just got out of prison, like getting.
Nigel Ng
Off and hamming his face on a bus.
Theo Von
Your guy has his face on it.
Nigel Ng
Have you had him on the pod? He's the other leader of Asian people.
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, we definitely have had him on your special guy. Special guy. Joko.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Joseph.
Theo Von
Joseph, Joseph. Good guy. There we are right there with the tour bus. Yeah, we do like, nice. Yeah. A lot of times it's just a tour bus, but nothing radar. Nothing really crazy on the inside or outside. We run a pretty lean ship for the most part.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. When I was on tour in the US I just flew to every city.
Theo Von
Did you?
Nigel Ng
I didn't even go with an opener on tour. I would open for myself. Uncle Roger was my opener.
Theo Von
No, really?
Nigel Ng
I save a bit of money that way.
Theo Von
So Uncle Roger is your assumed character? Kind of. It's like a. It's a. Another character. But it's just you.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, it's just me. I speak of a stronger accent and I'm a little bit grumpier.
Theo Von
But you don't you're not wearing a mustache or a cape or anything.
Nigel Ng
I wear an orange polo. Yeah, that's it.
Theo Von
That's Uncle Roger.
Nigel Ng
And it just took off because it came. You know, if you want to see some. Uncle Roger mostly complains about food, right?
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
And mostly about Asian food, like fried rice and those things. And if you want to see someone complain about Asian food, it better be someone, like, extremely Asian. Right. That adds the authenticity and the comedy of it.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
So that's why I took off the food stuff.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
But, yeah, he's just me. The orange polo, stronger accent, you know, when I. When I do Uncle Roger's portion in my tour is like my old material. I just let the character do it.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, yeah. People love it.
Nigel Ng
That's me. Yeah. Orange polo. But, you know, the bar for character comedy on YouTube is very low. Just put a shirt. You just put a shirt. Holy shit. Is he the same person?
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
Adam Ray's Dr. Phil is higher effort than whatever this is.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, dude. It just seemed like the very. The best guy at Home Depot, you know, like a student. You look like a student at Home Depot.
Nigel Ng
Oh, thank you.
Theo Von
It's very great, man. Yeah. People love Uncle Roger, and people love learning about different food through him. I think that's one thing. Did you. In Malaysia, there's a. I noticed when I was. There's a big monkey issue, Right.
Nigel Ng
Depends where you go in the city. That's fine. You probably went to this place called Batu Caves. It's like a cave, a Hindu cave. And then when you walk up the steps, there are. Monkeys would just steal food from you, right? Yeah.
Theo Von
Yeah. That sounds like a monkey issue.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
So what I'm saying is, do y' all eat. Have you ever had monkeys?
Nigel Ng
No, no, no. I know some Asians do.
Theo Von
Really?
Nigel Ng
You know, some. I think maybe China's, I've heard. And I don't know how true this is, but some places, I believe it too, man. They would just have a table with a hole in the middle, and then the monkey's head would be just coming through that hole, and they would just cut open the monkey's head and eat that monkey. Monkey's brain, as the monkey's still alive and just squiggling on the table. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how true that is, but I like to believe that we eat everything.
Theo Von
I love that.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
I love thinking about.
Nigel Ng
It's inhumane, though, right? It's. Wait, it's next level to the snail.
Theo Von
Mucin stuff, but monkeys are. They deserve Some of it.
Nigel Ng
No, they're nice. They're nice. They're smart.
Theo Von
They're smarter. Yeah, I agree. Every now and then you see one who, you know, knows how to open bag of Dorito or something.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, but overall.
Theo Von
Put monkeys attacking woman for chips.
Nigel Ng
Well, that. That's biased. You can also Google monkeys being cute and loving.
Theo Von
Okay, you know, let's see both. We'll do a video for each.
Nigel Ng
The woman who was mauled by a 200. 200 pound chimp. Okay, that's not a monkey. That's like King Kong.
Theo Von
You know, I'm just saying, this lady probably had a little bit of chips on her. I watched some monkeys attack a sister for a sack of vinegar salt chips one time on a stairwell.
Nigel Ng
Okay, I need to know more context.
Theo Von
Okay, so go to his version. Now what you want to pull up?
Nigel Ng
Monkeys being cute. Monkeys being cute in Malaysia. Yeah, let's do that.
Theo Von
Okay, let's see that. Oh, that's a beautiful monkey.
Nigel Ng
Oh, look at black face.
Theo Von
The monkey looks like it's in black face now.
Nigel Ng
Okay, yeah, we have a monkey problem. We have racist monkeys.
Theo Von
Look at this monkey, dude. Wow, bro. Look at this. Who is that?
Nigel Ng
Oh, that's Justin Trudeau.
Theo Von
Look, look, he's not running for office. He's swinging for office from his tail.
Nigel Ng
But that is cute. Come on. He's not attacking no one.
Theo Von
No, that's a prime minister.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah, that's hilarious. Look at this.
Theo Von
Here we have.
Nigel Ng
Come on.
Theo Von
A beautiful monkey.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, he's so tiny. He. That monkey can't beat anyone.
Theo Von
Very romantic. What made you decide to go into a food direction on your YouTube, man? And. And some of my audience won't be familiar with. With Nigel or Uncle Roger, and that's okay. Right? But it's the way you kind of effortlessly, kind of just like, I think you seem. This is what it is to me, and this is very judgmental.
Nigel Ng
All right, here we go.
Theo Von
I'm used to seeing some Asian people be more probably quiet or not have maybe the similar sense of humor. And I think your humor seems very similar and relatable to just somebody like me.
Nigel Ng
Oh, thank you.
Theo Von
So, yeah. And. And I don't mean it like it's. It's a judgment because it's like, what does that matter? Right? But I think that's why it seems so e. Like your humor. Sometimes I feel like maybe some Asian humor, I wouldn't get it. Or even if it's an Asian person with American humor, I wouldn't get it as much. But, yeah, yours just seems so like effortless and comes across, man.
Nigel Ng
I feel like every family has an Uncle Roger type character, right? This person who likes to talk, there's. Know it all. Who likes to talk. Loudmouth person who's just roasting everyone.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah.
Nigel Ng
I think every culture has someone like that.
Theo Von
Maybe pedophile or none.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, no, no, pedophile. Okay, keep, keep it, keep it pg.
Theo Von
Okay, fine, whatever, man. I don't know. Whatever. I'm just asking what the question is. Do they have pedophiles in Malaysia though? They have her now.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, of course.
Theo Von
Okay.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, they start young. Sometimes they start young. Sometimes it's allowed too.
Theo Von
Oh, really?
Nigel Ng
There's different cultures, I think sometimes they, they marry really young and like the Burmese or whatever. The Burmese. I don't know what specific Asian cultures, but I know of other people who are in Malaysia who would marry a 14 year old. It's rare. It's rare and it's very frowned upon and illegal. I, I think, I don't know the Malaysian constitution that well, but yeah, every country has a pedophile problem, man. It's just that I think in the US your pedophiles are higher profile. Yeah, they're successful pedophiles here.
Theo Von
Yeah. That's crazy. It's like, wow, this guy's great at business. What's his secret? And his secret is pet and kids or whatever. You're like, well, that's, you know, I'll just do a vitamin D supplement or whatever.
Nigel Ng
You have a whole island. You know, you have, you have Epstein.
Theo Von
Yeah, we had Epstein.
Nigel Ng
It's great. We don't have someone like that.
Theo Von
As you consent. Malaysia, 16. China, 14. Okay. Japan, 13.
Nigel Ng
13.
Theo Von
Whoa, hold on. Lower Bob. That's insane, dude. India or get back to 18. And South Korea is doing 16. Thailand, 15. Legal 18. Effective.
Nigel Ng
What does effective mean?
Theo Von
Oh, all right. Bahrain, 21.
Nigel Ng
Wow, I like that. Yeah. Pedophiles need to move away from Bahrainian. Pedophiles need to move to Japan.
Theo Von
Yeah. Blame it on Bahrain, brother. Wow.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Oh, why, why, why talk about food?
Theo Von
So you got into food? Yes. Your channel seems like it kind of really. You started to focus more on food.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, well, you know, I grew up, growing up. I think most Malaysians, most Asians love food. And we have opinions, a lot of opinions on food and where the best thing is and what, what is the best fried rice, for instance, you know, so during COVID I, I remember I went full time stand up comedy. September 2019. So six months before COVID hit, I was like, finally, I saved up enough money, I got enough paying gigs that I can make a living off of. Stand up. And then Covid hit six months later, I lost all my work. So I had to be like, okay, I have all this time on my hands. What do I do? You know, I have this idea for this character in my head. And then one day, somebody sent me that very first video, that BBC Food. This woman making egg fried rice. And I was just watching, and I was just like, this is horrendous. This is horrible. So let's put that character idea with this reaction video, YouTube idea. And then things just took off from there, so. And I realized food is relatable, you know, to Asian people, to everyone. Right. Fried rice. Everybody's had fried rice before. White, Asian, black, you know, doesn't matter, race you are.
Theo Von
Everybody likes it.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, everybody likes it. Everybody has had it. Everybody has an opinion on it.
Theo Von
Is there fried rice, crispy treats, or.
Nigel Ng
No, no, we can start one. That's a good idea. Fried rice Krispies treats for a little packet.
Theo Von
I like that, huh?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, but it's too sweet, though.
Theo Von
Yeah, very sweet.
Nigel Ng
Maybe you can come out with a savory one. Yeah, that. That is the BBC food egg fried rice video, the one that I reacted to.
Theo Von
And what is it?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, who is that she? Her name's Hersha Patel. We did a video together.
Theo Von
Wow.
Nigel Ng
She was just, you know, like a collateral damage. She was just a presenter, and the BBC gave her this recipe.
Theo Von
And Hersha, she's got. Her pronouns are heavy in her first name.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, her Shah. Oh, wow. She does a lot of bizarre things, you know, like.
Theo Von
I would buy her a damn omelette somewhere.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. He's making the rise. And.
Theo Von
And so what is she? This is your. You know her?
Nigel Ng
I. I. Yeah. After the video went viral and she was under a lot of. She got a lot of hate messages about this video. Yeah.
Theo Von
For making bad rice.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah. So this is like a Meghan Markle effect or whatever.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, somethings. And then I realized my videos where I critique when I roast celebrity chefs, those go really viral. They do super well. And then after doing it for a few more years, I was like, okay. People trust me when it. When I talk about food, because I try to keep it honest. If the food is good, I say it's good. If it's bad, I say it's bad. So that's why I think. I think I can make, you know, do some good business in the food world. That's why now I have. I have restaurants. I'm Writing a cookbook, all that stuff. And it's fun, man. It's like, fun. You know, I've done the. I love stand up still. I just don't have the time to do it anymore. And I'm taking a break from it because I realized I'm not. I wasn't devoting enough time to it. You know, at most I could do two sets a week. And that's not enough.
Theo Von
That's not enough.
Nigel Ng
That's not enough. You get. You feel so rusty. The first 10 minutes of your set, you're getting rid of that rust and you can't really get better. So maybe one day when things settle down a bit, I'll get back to stand up. Because I. I love it. It's just that, you know, that instant reaction from people. Yeah.
Theo Von
Well, it's also, it's, you know, it's funny, I think, how if you try, like, was it scary to try your first. That first kind of food video? Because it's interesting for an entertainer if you're in a certain world or space. Right. It's interesting to then try something different. You're like, well, my friend does this and it's really neat. He does it super well. But if I do it, is mine going to be okay? Are people going to perceive it as okay? Right. I think that's a big fear. You know, I have friends that do great sketches. Like, Shane Gillis does some really great sketches. Like, like his great. Yeah, Gillian Keeves.
Nigel Ng
Oh, I love that ISIS Toyota sketch.
Theo Von
Some of it. It's just so, so funny. And there's times where it's like, I'll think of a great sketch, I'll write it on my phone. And I'm like, well, if I did that, would it be okay? Would I be, too? But it's like, I think you think like that, right? It's normal.
Nigel Ng
It's normal. It's normal to think like that. But nobody cares, dude.
Theo Von
Right? That's the truth. Right. But then, I don't know, if somebody saw somebody doing something like, like a bunch, you're like, oh, this isn't the avenue for them. But then if you're, if you have a good instinct for yourself, you would kind of notice that as well. Here's what I'm asking. Was it hard to do that? Was it hard to just take that leap and be like, I'm gonna try this different thing?
Nigel Ng
Oh, yeah, yeah. You fear. I fear the judgment of every back. Because back then in the UK, nobody was doing YouTube. You know, it was, it was just We a weird thing for someone to do for a stand up to do people. Other standups would be like, oh you're. He's just a YouTuber. You know that kind of slur, right?
Theo Von
Yeah. YouTuber.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, YouTuber.
Theo Von
Oh, but no hard R on it.
Nigel Ng
YouTuber.
Theo Von
Yeah. That's crazy.
Nigel Ng
YouTuber please.
Theo Von
Yeah, dude. Oh, have you heard that song? YouTubers can be gay too.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Have you heard it?
Nigel Ng
No, I watch it.
Theo Von
Right. You gotta hear this song. It's great. It's just like a. It's a summer bop that's really taken over and then we'll get back to this. Hell yeah.
Nigel Ng
What a banger.
Theo Von
This is that banger, bro. We gotta remix this for the summer, dude.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Very hard to sing along. That's in your car. He can say this in your car.
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just say this to your friend.
Nigel Ng
He's not wrong though. They can't be gay.
Theo Von
Oh, he's definitely. I support this guy.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Hey, this guy has a vote for me, bro.
Nigel Ng
It needs to be said.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
There's too much toxic masculinity in in that and nword community sometimes.
Theo Von
Yeah. You got to let the air out the tire. Literally. That's what I'm saying. Boy. Sometimes the best seasoning is a little bit of zest.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Who likes that zesty barbecue? They snuck it in on us. They snuck it in on us at that zesty barbecue. But let's go back to what you're saying. Sorry, I just. Anytime I get a chance. I love this artist eves and so I just want to be able to support him and put out his song that I think is a banger and has not gotten the. The vibes it should have gotten so far or. And it just needs to be resurrected because it's been about eight years since that song came out. What is I wonder does in Asian culture even. Because Asian culture to me. Right. And I know I relate things to culture a lot but I think it play. It's played a big role in my life I think somehow. But Asian people seem more reserved overall. Right. We kind of talked about that.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
So is that even scarier to put yourself out there in an Asians like as an Asian you think than it would be in other cultures where it's more like boisterous.
Nigel Ng
You know I never thought about this. I think it would be you know, in. In the US I think people here like it when you're being creative. At least they're supportive. You know like you go do you?
Theo Von
Do you? Yeah. Yeah.
Nigel Ng
People Are more positive.
Theo Von
You can be gay, too, man.
Nigel Ng
You know, if you try to put that song in Malaysia, Asians can be gay, too. That's not gonna go far, I think. I think in some countries, that would be illegal as well.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Asians can be gay, too.
Theo Von
Muslims can be gay, too. This dude. That song needs a remake in every culture. Yeah. So I just wondered if it was even scarier. And what, like, I guess. What got you that? What made you kind of brave enough to take that, to take that leap? Because in my life, I've noticed that the. The toughest thing is just that first step every time.
Nigel Ng
Well, I went to university here, and that helped. I went to Northwestern, and it's. You know, I was very lucky. I got a scholarship because it's an expensive school, but a lot of people who go there are, like, very upper middle class, mostly white, Midwestern kids.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah.
Nigel Ng
So confident. And even though they have the exact wrong answer, but they're still, like, just saying it with their chest.
Theo Von
Yeah. You're talking about being a Kappa sig, dude. I think.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, Something like that. I wasn't very popular with the. The frat people, that they have their own culture. Right. When you talk about culture, frat. It's his own culture.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah. They like to vomit on each other until somebody's secretly gay. You know what I'm saying? Dude, that's the type I'm into. Typ boy, shout out, pikes, pill gang.
Nigel Ng
Can you still do those things? The hazing rituals, sexual assault, but on people, on your friends.
Theo Von
I didn't know vomit could be a lubricant, but, hey, here's another bush light, Ricky.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. They're just so. And. And I see them just their way through university. I said, I need some of that. I need some of that con. That white male confidence. Not too much. You have too much, you become annoying and entitled. Right?
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
20% of it. Just a little bit.
Theo Von
Not too much. Yeah, you don't want to turn into Chet Hanks or whatever.
Nigel Ng
He went to our school.
Theo Von
Did he?
Nigel Ng
Northwestern.
Theo Von
Let's go.
Nigel Ng
Nice, man. He came to see it. I was in a black sketch comedy group back in university. Chad Hanks and Tom Hanks were at our show once, and Rita Wilson, Tom's wife.
Theo Von
And they all came to your show.
Nigel Ng
They came to the show. It was me and a group of people.
Theo Von
Black folks.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, mostly black folk. They always need one Asian guy and one white person. So I was a token. He was a token.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. We got the pass to say the n Word in certain sketches you did. Cool. Yeah.
Theo Von
Oh, wow. They're doing that in Northwestern.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Theo Von
Hell yeah. That's what the end stands for. Northwestern Day. That's what I'm talking about. That's what we need more of. Dude. I've said this for years, and not for years, but I've said this for almost four months. If you had. If you auctioned off the N word, say somebody's going to say it. Right. Like tonight Uncle Roger is going to drop the Inbomb at 11pm Right. But you auction it off. You say, we're gonna. I'm gonna donate money to watch the stream. I'm gonna pay. They say it and the money goes towards, like a black organization.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, I think that worked. I think that's a good idea. Yeah. But do you have limitations in how they say it?
Theo Von
No, I think they just get. They have to say it within three or four minutes so they could do like a little bit of a dance ensemble and then say it at the end. Like da da da, da da da.
Nigel Ng
You know, hard R or no hard.
Theo Von
R. I think it's up to them and I think it's at what price level you pay. Like, say Jolie is going to drop that thing. Right?
Nigel Ng
Okay. I mean, I would tune in to watch that. I think more people would like that than that Imagine song that they did a few years ago.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, yeah. Imagine words. That's what I'm saying, dude. That's what they need to do. So I'm just. Because people are always talking about reparations this, reparations that. But you're out here policing people for the N word, Organized.
Nigel Ng
That's a great idea.
Theo Von
And make some money for your community.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
By auctioning off. People are already saying it's it.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. For free.
Theo Von
That's no problem. Dude, I love this United nations meeting, dude.
Nigel Ng
Let's start a twitch stream. Okay.
Theo Von
And tonight.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Who would be the best that you would love to hear say the N word. And let's be honest. And this isn't a racial thing. This is just about vernacular and raising money for a community.
Nigel Ng
I. I want. I want to see Trevor Wallace say the N word.
Theo Von
Yeah. Because he does not say it, but he.
Nigel Ng
He looks like he wants to say.
Theo Von
Oh, if you tickle him.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, I bet he says it in his sleep. This is sleep talking. Sorry, Trevor.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, he puts the in and Ambien, dude, you know what I'm talking about. What's up, Kyle? Dude, that would be so great.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, I'd love To see that.
Theo Von
Yeah, I would love to see Trevor Wallace. And then who's someone that's older that I would love to see. Say it. Someone who's probably like in a coma or something, but if you could get them to whisper it or something for like a. An expensive stream. I'm talking like about a 13, 14 stream team. Who's somebody? Look up older people in coma's celebrities or people on their struggling, something like that.
Nigel Ng
Old people who are struggling.
Theo Von
Put almost rip you can put on there. Oh, Clint Eastwood.
Nigel Ng
Oh, hey, that'll be a. They'll be a legend.
Theo Von
He did it for free, huh?
Nigel Ng
That'd be a legend. That would be legendary. He says it already. Yeah.
Theo Von
There'S like three movies about him almost saying about me. Oh, Buzz Aldrin, definitely. Dude.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Bro, Is he the guy who went to the moon?
Theo Von
Yeah. You know if you're out in space, you got to yell it out there.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Nobody here, nobody can hear it. Only Houston can hear it. We got a problem, Houston. We have a problem.
Theo Von
Yeah, Paul Wall, baby. I'm the people's champ.
Nigel Ng
We got a problem, Houston. Buzz is racist. Really racist.
Theo Von
You don't think a white guy named.
Nigel Ng
Buzz was driving in bombs after a few whiskeys?
Theo Von
Dude, after a few whiskeys and fake trips to the moon, you don't think he's driving a fucking. First of all, if you send me to a fake moon and drug me up and send me to a fake moon, I get one in bomb, man. Yeah, he could open up for Angelina Jolie. But it's just good to think about how you can raise money. And that's where I'm at. It's like, you know, are we raising money or not?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, I wish we had a such a cool like racial slur for Asian people. You know, we got. We got chink, but it's nowhere near the right cultural coolness.
Theo Von
Yeah, I'm trying to think of chop dogs would be good, but that's kind of fun.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, that's funny. That's funny to say.
Theo Von
Look at my chopped dogs right here. Yeah, look at best Asian racial slurs if you can.
Nigel Ng
Sorry, that's probably on x, not on YouTube. Yeah, best Asian source.
Theo Von
Yeah, at Elon. Excuse me, Grok, do you know if these slurs are definitely Asian? Let's just look up a couple. I don't want to get crazy.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Have you had Elon on the pod?
Theo Von
I have not.
Nigel Ng
Mama san Mongoloid. I thought that was for like down syndrome people. Not for Asian.
Theo Von
That's just redneck people. Who don't know how to say Mongolia.
Nigel Ng
Mongolia.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
We have some mongoloid beef.
Theo Von
Look, I ate so much of it, I can't even read that well anymore.
Nigel Ng
My forehead got bigger after eating Mongolite be. My eyes got sunken in.
Theo Von
Yeah. Oh, my God. We gotta get out of here, dude. Dude, you know what you need to do is do a show with my friends over there in Australia when you go.
Nigel Ng
Which one?
Theo Von
Sean and Marley.
Nigel Ng
Oh, these guys?
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. I've. I've done, like, some reactions to chefs with down syndrome, and they're great.
Theo Von
These guys are the best. One of them doesn't have down syndrome. One of them does. I'm not even sure, but you go to their home. The greatest experience I had in Australia was spending time with these guys at.
Nigel Ng
Their home and went to their homes.
Theo Von
Yes. And you pull up, dude. It was just unbelievable. But that would be an amazing crossover, and they would love to have you there, man.
Nigel Ng
I've worked with down syndrome kids before. I used to volunteer at a Down syndrome factory or whatever.
Theo Von
And that's a joke. That's because a lot of this little Asian factory work. I didn't think it was funny.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. The most joyful people just happy.
Theo Von
Dude, you tickle them. They can't even feel it because they're already feeling that good. That crazy.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Is that. Is that true?
Theo Von
Yeah, they're already feeling at a level of being tickled.
Nigel Ng
Oh, I didn't know that. How'd you find out about that fact?
Theo Von
Oh, that's easy One.
Nigel Ng
Is that a grok question as well?
Theo Von
That's grok.
Nigel Ng
Do down syndrome people feel tickles?
Theo Von
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Nigel Ng
Theo, how's the middle east trip, man? I was watching the clip of you doing that show. That must be a tough crowd when you did. Good.
Theo Von
It's nice you to say that. You're being very nice. That show was hard. I'll tell you what. So they weren't supposed to be recording the show. That was part of the agreement was there would be no recording. And I get out there and then there's 20 news cameras.
Nigel Ng
Oh, right.
Theo Von
And so I'm like, well, what do I do now? Like, I have, you know, I can't just do all my material because then it'll just be out there. Right? It's like. And I'm trying to maybe do a special at some point. And. And then. So that was. Yeah, those are Thobes, Right.
Nigel Ng
Okay. So that's Qatar, right?
Theo Von
Qatar, yeah.
Nigel Ng
Okay.
Theo Von
And it was so cool, man. But, yeah, so I get out there and then there's an audience in front of me, behind me, and to this side of me, and half of each one of them can't speak English.
Nigel Ng
It's still laughter. I heard laughs. I heard A plus break people.
Theo Von
I think a lot of that made.
Nigel Ng
Fun of the Navy. They loved it.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah. That part was. The best part, was calling them Ku Klux Sandsman. That was my favorite. That's the only thing. And at that point, I was like, at least if anything, they flew somebody over here to say that.
Nigel Ng
That must be a tough crowd. It was like a corporate crowd, but tougher.
Theo Von
Well, I just didn't expect the camera. So suddenly, everything has to change. You're like, what do I do now? I can't. You know? And so it was just like this interesting mix. But then I also, like, before I went out there, I was, like, asking God, I was like, just don't make it about me. Let me just try and do my best. Like, you know, So I. And then I realized it's just, you're over there to have fun. So we stayed after and took a ton of photos. And it was cool, man, just to be on the base and see, like, you know, I've done some military tours in the past, but just to be there and just see what people. Just what people are living like over there and what the environment is like over there.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
And then we got to. We got to drive across town, and all the buildings have bring up, like, basic or what's it called, common structure structuring in Qatar. All of their stuff have, like, the castle. Like, you know that, like, castles are kind of like that on the top of them.
Nigel Ng
Let me see. I don't fully understand, like, you know, the rook in.
Theo Von
When you're playing.
Nigel Ng
Rook is a castle.
Theo Von
Yeah, the rook is the castle. So it has the castle top. You know, the top of the castle is like that.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah.
Theo Von
All of their buildings there like that.
Nigel Ng
Oh, really? Wow.
Theo Von
She'll be driving by a place, and you're like, like, oh, my God, is that a palace? And they're like, that's a kfc, dude. Every building there has the castling tops, and it's all very uniform, and there's nothing out of place. There's not a tree out of place. There's not a. A curve of a sidewalk out of place. Nothing's on. It's like, wow, it's unbelievable. They have a lot of money because everybody there gets subsidized from the government. If you're a Qatari citizen.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, but it's impossible to be a Qatari citizen, isn't it?
Theo Von
Right. It only travels the mail, so you can't just. And you can't just have a baby. On the land and it's a citizen.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Can you be gay and marry a male and. And get it that way?
Theo Von
Let's see. That's a great question because you always hear that you can't be gay there or whatever. And it's funny, they had the Secret Service there and I kept going up to. And I'm like, what's your secret? If you're gay, just say, if you're gay, what's your secret? You wore your mom's underpants. Like, what is it? And every now and then, one was. Would slightly show me a gun.
Nigel Ng
Just like, shut the up.
Theo Von
And then that's when I would listen to N. Words can be gay too.
Nigel Ng
Just play. Let's play that in their ears.
Theo Von
Pathways to Qatari citizenship. Citizenship is automatically granted anyone born to a Qatari father, regardless of birthplace. Oh, interesting. Children of Qatari mothers and non Qatari fathers may apply for citizenship, but only under strict conditions. Conditions are not guaranteed citizenship. Foreigners can't apply for citizenship after at least 25 consecutive years of lawful residents. Wow.
Nigel Ng
Wow. With no more than two months spent outside the country per year.
Theo Von
So. Oh, my God. With no more than two months been outside the country here. Whereas in America, you could hang your lower half over a fence and drop something over here. And it's American.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
You know, which is kind of cool, actually.
Nigel Ng
I think there is that golden visa thing in America now, right? $5 million or something, they're giving that away.
Theo Von
I think it's through America's Got Citizenship. I think Howie Mandel is one of the hosts of it. But dual citizenship is not permitted. Applicants must renounce their previous citizenship upon naturalization. I think that's important.
Nigel Ng
So you can't be gay. Oh, wait. Legal status of same sex marriage. Okay.
Theo Von
Same sex marriage, civil unions and domestic partnerships are not recognized or legal in Qatar. Qatari law, influenced by traditional Islamic principles, criminalizes same sex sexual activity and does not recognize any legal status for same sex couples. Cohabitation outside of heterosexual marriage is also illegal. Wow.
Nigel Ng
So there's no way for us to be Qatari citizens in our next life. I believe in reincarnation.
Theo Von
You know, I'll meet you there, brother.
Nigel Ng
See you there, man.
Theo Von
Play our song. What is the. What's the improper way to cook rice just for. For whites and listeners of this.
Nigel Ng
That's what I built my whole career off of.
Theo Von
Is it really?
Nigel Ng
I think the. The proper way is just get a rice cooker.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
You know, you have one of those?
Theo Von
No. I lived with an Asian girl when I first moved To Los Angeles. We.
Nigel Ng
She needs to educate you on that stuff, man.
Theo Von
Oh, we couldn't even afford heat. We would, we would. Sometimes we'd have her turn that on in our room for a little while.
Nigel Ng
Oh, but now, now things are different now, right? You can afford a rice cooker now.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah. I can have a rice cooker in each room.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, you can just be making rice. You gotta have an Asian in each room making rice for you. That's how you can afford.
Theo Von
I would love that. A little cinnamon.
Nigel Ng
Get a sugar book person.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
$80 a week. Just come make rice for me, girl. But a rice cooker is great because it just takes care of everything for you. And when it's done, it keeps it warm. So you can just press play, go out, do your thing, come back, rice is ready.
Theo Von
The tv, it.
Nigel Ng
And it smells good. It's perfect.
Theo Von
So no way to do. So doing anything crazy with rice where you're boiling all that, it's kind of ridiculous. You can just do a rice cooker easy.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Because every time. Every time in the West. Okay, here's the difference. In the. In Asia, you ask someone how to make rice, they're like, rice cooker. The story is over. Over here, I asked them how to make rice. They give you this long mathematical equation with science and. And how. How many cups of water to 1 to 3, ratio of rice to water is a whole science lab breaking bad.
Theo Von
Yeah. It's like Andrew Huberman making rice.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Like, we don't need that. We don't need a whole podcast to make one bowl of rice.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
You know, so I recommend everybody just get a rice cooker. You know, make life easy for yourself.
Theo Von
Yeah. Make it simple.
Nigel Ng
Just do that. Do you cook a lot at home?
Theo Von
I. I only eat two things, honestly, at home. Smoothie.
Nigel Ng
Okay.
Theo Von
I eat one smoothie that has blueberries, spinaches, walnut.
Nigel Ng
Eating, though, that's not eating protein powder. Okay. And food.
Theo Von
Lactose free milk, a little bit of cinnamon, half teaspoon of Stamets. Mushroom powder, some arm armor. Amra. Colostrum.
Nigel Ng
What else?
Theo Von
Oh, half a teaspoon of algae. Sea algae powder. That's fine grain. Fine grain. I don't like that. Choppy.
Nigel Ng
What is. What's colostrum?
Theo Von
Mushroom armor. It's something that. It's in baby milk.
Nigel Ng
Is that placenta? Oh, okay.
Theo Von
I love.
Nigel Ng
Is it good for you?
Theo Von
I mean, was baby milk good for you?
Nigel Ng
Probably. I don't remember now.
Theo Von
Oh, you imagine that?
Nigel Ng
Yeah. I need to ask my mom. Was I healthier when I was Sucking in your tit.
Theo Von
I'm sure I was. Dude, look at me now. Troubled. I'm spray tanning my back because I'm losing pigment. God damn.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, Just getting wider and wider.
Theo Von
I love that damn baby milk titty.
Nigel Ng
Where'd you get that? Looks like an air wand thing, isn't it?
Theo Von
They started dealing it. I think we actually do. I think we. Honestly, I think we even do some ads for them. But so I mix that together in a blender. That is my. That's my smoothie. That's what I have every time. And then other than that, sometimes at night, about 45 minutes for bed, I'll make myself a ground beef quesadilla.
Nigel Ng
Okay. Okay. You gotta expand your palate, man. Give it a try.
Theo Von
I don't want that.
Nigel Ng
I'll bring you around. I'll bring you to Koreatown.
Theo Von
But why is it that every time Asians, they want to take you somewhere to feed you? That's the thing.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. We don't. We don't like cooking at home.
Theo Von
Oh, really?
Nigel Ng
Because cooking, there's so much good food here. The cooking at home is almost arrogant. You think, like, what. You think you can do better than this place? You know? So I gotta. I gotta bring you somewhere, create some. Some. Some joy. Like, you see some Fuyo.
Theo Von
That's your restaurant.
Nigel Ng
Fuyo. Yeah, yeah, Fuyo. It's Uncle Roger. That's the restaurant name.
Theo Von
Yeah. Congratulations.
Nigel Ng
No, thank you, man. Thank you.
Theo Von
So awesome.
Nigel Ng
That's only in Malaysia right now. Hopefully, we'll expand this concept to all of Asia. But later this year, hopefully, we also have something. A new concept opening in London.
Theo Von
Really?
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Different. Different. Oh, this is the first time I'm saying it to the world, but yeah, we have. We just got the lease for a place in London. Let's go. Completely different restaurant name and stuff. Thank you. You. Fuyo is like a Malaysian slang for saying. Yeah.
Theo Von
Oh, okay.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah. Nice.
Theo Von
Yeah. I love that, dude. It's so cool. And when you went there for the first time, did you have to go and help design the actual restaurant? How did that. How hands on. Are you in something like that. Right.
Nigel Ng
Certain aspects. I came up with a few of the. The fried rice recipes. So Fuyo, it's Uncle Roger, is a fast casual fried rice restaurant. Restaurant.
Theo Von
Okay.
Nigel Ng
So you get fried rice as your base. You can add toppings to it.
Theo Von
Oh, it sounds so good.
Nigel Ng
Oh, it's good, man. We are very proud of our fried rice. And I came up with a few of the recipes. You know, the, The. This Kim this is a kimchi fried rice. So I decided, yes, we need some seaweed. We decide how we want to plate it. You know, the seaweed on the side and the perimeter and how you want to chop the spring onion. There are many ways to chop spring onion. You got to find. Yeah, yeah. It's all a little, like, bright colored and a little. A little corny from a western eye, but it works for Asia. And we like cutesy things. And also a lot of kids like it. Younger people like it.
Theo Von
Yeah, it's fun. Well, also, I think getting younger people to like, especially like younger American people to like just to try something a little bit different, right?
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Like, I think my nephews would love this kind of thing.
Nigel Ng
Egg, man. Look at how runny it is. That's a decision to make. You got to make the sides crispy and the yolk runny. That's what Asians like. You could add some eggs to your diet, man.
Theo Von
Oh, fool.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. It's a runny eggs to your quesadilla, to your beef quesadilla.
Theo Von
I do very. I do a little bit of cheese on there. Shredded cheese quesadilla.
Nigel Ng
And that. That's real. That's the two things you eat every day.
Theo Von
That's the only thing that.
Nigel Ng
For real, you're not joking.
Theo Von
That's the only thing is it's at my house to eat. And the only thing is it's at my apartment, too.
Nigel Ng
Oh, wow.
Theo Von
So I have that. Put a cheese. Put a layer of ground beef, one more layer of cheese. Take some salt, sea salt. Put it on there. Top on it. One napkin over it in the microwave. Probably minute, 15 seconds when it comes out, I push down on the napkin to strengthen that cheese and that meat combo, put it all together, make it a team. Then I'll cut it a second. I take that napkin off, I cut it four and two, one across, one of the bottom. Make four pieces. Do not let it get too cold. Brother gets bad.
Nigel Ng
I need to open a restaurant here, man. So I'm gonna experience it. We all joy of eating.
Theo Von
Oh, I would love that, man. I would love to be associated with your restaurant. Yeah.
Nigel Ng
Part of. Part of why I took a break from stand up is because it eats into my dinner time. That's how much I like food. It's real, man. Right? You do a show on tour, it's like I have to sound check at like 5, and I'm stuck in the green room just eating a cold salad. And then after the show, you just want to drink. You don't want to eat?
Theo Von
Oh, yeah.
Nigel Ng
You know what I mean?
Theo Von
Yeah, you're. You're a little bit heightened up and then otherwise you're eating at like 11 o' clock at night. Night. That's never super fun.
Nigel Ng
No good restaurant still open at 11?
Theo Von
Nothing.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Even if you try to set up something in advance, you know. Yeah, it won't stay open sometimes, but you can order food. But yeah, it's touring is. It's a hectic lifestyle.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
How do you stay fit when you're always eating? Do you also have to take care of yourself or do you want to get turned into fat?
Nigel Ng
Yo, no, I think I got to take care of myself, man. I wanted my, my life expectancy to go a little. A little beyond that. So I just work out. I try to. I try to let my dinner be my all out meal. My every, every dinner is my cheat meal. But every other meal is like a healthy thing. I try. I try.
Theo Von
And do you eat breakfast? Do Malaysians eat breakfast?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got some good, good breakfast, man. I think Best breakfast in the world. We got rice for breakfast.
Theo Von
See, that's the part. I'm open to it. I think you just. I would have to get.
Nigel Ng
Search. Search this. Search. Nasi Lemak. Nasi. Yeah. Malaysian breakfast. That's the first image. That's the one we have. So look at the variety. Rice, peanuts, the sambal paste, a red paste there. Fried chicken sometimes.
Theo Von
What's a sambal paste?
Nigel Ng
It's like chili shrimp paste. You know, I'm getting hungry now just thinking about this.
Theo Von
And those are sardines.
Nigel Ng
Huh?
Theo Von
Those are sardines.
Nigel Ng
Those are fried. Deep fried anchovies, crisp.
Theo Von
Be.
Nigel Ng
I feel like this. The joy of this image is lost on you, Theo.
Theo Von
I could see that.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Look at that. Served on a banana leaf. Look at how appetizing that is, you know? Look at, look at that one, the one from medium. The one. Yeah, that one. So this is another Malaysian breakfast. This is more Indian, Malaysian style. I like this one. You have the, the roti, the. The thin bread, slightly crispy and airy. You dip it in that yellow dal.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah.
Nigel Ng
Ah, man. Again, Again. It beats any ground beef quesadilla, man.
Theo Von
But in Qatar they had a lot of beautiful sauces and stuff too.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, we love sauce is what makes life worth living, you know?
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
Add that to your colostrum smoothie or something.
Theo Von
You're right, dude. I'm a idiot. What am I doing? There's all this great food and I'm eating the same. All the time. What a loser.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Yeah. We should make a video. Do you, like, maybe next time, maybe you can make Uncle Roger your. Your meal and then.
Theo Von
Dude, I'm losing my mind, bro. You know, I gotta get it, man. And we'll bleep that word out. Sorry, that was a little bit out of sorts.
Nigel Ng
And the shirt you're wearing, too, that. That's the national flower of Malaysia. You want to know more about Malaysia? That's a hibiscus.
Theo Von
Is it?
Nigel Ng
Did you wear that for me to show respect?
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
Oh, thank you, man. I'll take it. Look at that.
Theo Von
Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah, we have a lot of respect for Asian culture here.
Nigel Ng
Thank you.
Theo Von
And I think we want.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, that's Japanese, but, you know.
Theo Von
It is.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
That's my mustache.
Nigel Ng
Huh?
Theo Von
How do you mean mash day?
Nigel Ng
I don't know what that means. Oh, I know one word.
Theo Von
Oh. Our friendship begins. That's what it means in Japanese.
Nigel Ng
Thank you. Hi.
Theo Von
Hi.
Nigel Ng
I love the way they say thank you in Japan. They just. They just bow at you. The most polite Asian people I know. You know? Have you been there? Have you toured there?
Theo Von
Beautiful. Yeah, I've been to Japan. I haven't toured there, though.
Nigel Ng
Oh, you should tour there. I think you'll get a good crowd.
Theo Von
You think so?
Nigel Ng
Expat crowd. Crowd.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
And then maybe a few, like, random Japanese people who got lost.
Theo Von
Yeah. Yeah.
Nigel Ng
I like that. A haircut, too. Just end up with your show.
Theo Von
What? Yeah, dude, the thing of. Let's. What are some of the. Like, Some Asians get no credit. The Laotians. Right?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, Laotian people. Yeah.
Theo Von
Never met.
Nigel Ng
They. I. I pissed them off one time.
Theo Von
Did you?
Nigel Ng
Because I said. Said. What did I say? Oh, Uncle Roger said Cambodian and. And Laotian food is like a version of Thai food. And they get mad when you insult their food, man.
Theo Von
Yeah. Laotians.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, Laotians and Cambodians. Oh, I still think it's okay, maybe not Lao, but Cambodian food. Yeah, it's kind of true in a way. I think Thai. Thai people perfected that region's food.
Theo Von
You think so?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, because they. They took inspiration from the Laotian people, their own Thai people and Cambodia. You guys bombed them to shit, so that's why they couldn't.
Theo Von
Yeah, that's why it's hard to eat with the bombing.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, I know. It's hard to enjoy your noodles when there's a landmine next to you. Just like, don't drop the chopstick. It's going to trigger the explosion. Yeah. I've been To Cambodia. It's sometimes it makes me sad.
Theo Von
You've been to Cambodia?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been to, what's it called? That, that scene? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Theo Von
And, and it's right next to Vietnam.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
And is it makes you sad because of just the aftermath of the war there and stuff?
Nigel Ng
Stuff, yeah. Aftermath of the war and you just see people who've lost limbs. Oh, you know, because you plant and there's still active landmines there. So you never, you can't venture, you can't just venture off the, the path. You know, the tour guide tells you, don't walk off the path. Everybody's walking. You might step in a landmine. Oh yeah.
Theo Von
Who has that song Landmine? Who is that?
Nigel Ng
Landmines can be gay too. Hands.
Theo Von
Oh, it's Bruno Mars.
Nigel Ng
Catch a grenade for you. That song.
Theo Von
Oh yeah, that's what I'm thinking of. Bruno Mars, I'll catch a grenade for you. Oh, but no, that is heartbreaking. Can you bring that up? Is that true? How much landmines are still in Cambodia? That's heartbreaking.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, it's your.
Theo Von
And did we put them there?
Nigel Ng
I think so. I think. What's the, the guy who, the, the president who, who passed away last year.
Theo Von
I think Joe Biden.
Nigel Ng
No, he's still kicking. He's still kick. I think Jimmy Carter.
Theo Von
Oh, Jimmy Carter.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, Jimmy Carter. Was he the one who. This was some, somebody. I don't fully know that the history. I just know that you guys were, you know, highly responsible and I'm sure.
Theo Von
Let me see. Millions of landmines. Cambodia is one of the most heavily landmine contaminated countries in the world with estimates ranging from 4 to 6 million landmines and unexploded ordinance scattered across the country at the. As of the end of 2022, Cambodia had identified 681 square kilometers of land contaminated with anti personnel landmines. God.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
New areas of contamination are continually being discovered, making the precise number of landmines difficult to determine. Click on that third article over there. Human progress. On February 2025, Prime Minister Samdet. How do you say it?
Nigel Ng
I don't know.
Theo Von
Oh, damn.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Highlighted the remarkable achievements in Cambodia's ongoing mine clearance campaign over the past 32 years. Since its inception in 1992, the initiative has successfully cleared nearly 3, 300 square kilometers of landmines. Man.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, they have more landmines than you have like Starbucks here.
Theo Von
Yeah, but I mean it just puts hopscotch on a whole new fucking level, huh? Yeah, yeah.
Nigel Ng
Advanced hopscotch. High stakes hopscotch. Draw the lines. Good luck.
Theo Von
Dude, this is horrible.
Nigel Ng
Squid game over there. Hopscotch squid game.
Theo Von
All you need is like a simply safe camera set up on a tree over there to get your squid game Season three. Oh, what is this? What Asian have the most? Like a lot of Asians squint when they look, right?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah.
Theo Von
Which Asian have them?
Nigel Ng
The heavy ray squint when they're look. Come on. Fine. You scream when you look too.
Theo Von
Oh yeah, I look a little Asian, man.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, you got a little Asian in you.
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah. And what. But who. What agent have the most squint? Is there one that like what Asian has the one where you just want to put a couple quarters in their face. You know what I'm talking about?
Nigel Ng
Type of, you know, the squinty eye. The squintiest Asians. I don't know, I may maybe Mongolians because bring them up, bring them on. Because they have like, like really puffy cheeks in there.
Theo Von
Oh, so that it's a.
Nigel Ng
So it just pushed the cheeks. Push the eyelids up.
Theo Von
Beautiful. I love that. Yeah.
Nigel Ng
Let me see what you search. Let me see the Google search. Yeah, show the search agent at the squintiest eyes.
Theo Von
I mean that's gonna get us in trouble, dude.
Nigel Ng
Oh man, I love. I would love to be on this brainstorming session when. When you guys had me on yesterday morning storm session. Nigel's coming welcome me. Ask him.
Theo Von
I don't know. Ask him. We were afraid to say your name out loud in case this place is bugged by Memphis pd. Dude.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, that's another grock question.
Theo Von
Yeah, bring it up on Gro as well. See if they can help us. Some people say Japanese people because like the blast was so bright.
Nigel Ng
It like that they have like a permanent sunglasses.
Theo Von
Well it like it was a lot for the community. It's all heartbreaking, man. Oh, it's a stereotype tied to east.
Nigel Ng
Asian population stereotype if it's kind of true. Right.
Theo Von
No, bring up some wide eyed Asians in. Let's see that. Because this could all be bullshit.
Nigel Ng
So when I see. When I film myself on camera, I have to make sure the camera is positioned a certain way if there's an emotion I want to convey because otherwise when I look down it just. It's just a slit.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Nigel Ng
You know, so I know I experienced that problem. Them.
Theo Von
Oh, there's some beautiful. Yeah, I think this is a stereotype, man. We might want to get rid of that stereotype. I don't know. If that's true.
Nigel Ng
I think it's true, man.
Theo Von
What are. What are common plastic surgeries that some Asians get in order to adjust themselves?
Nigel Ng
Eyes bigger.
Theo Von
Make her eyes bigger. Yeah. Look at the one lady's got one eye big and one eye regular. Look at that. Second row left, left.
Nigel Ng
Oh, that's makeup.
Theo Von
Nuh.
Nigel Ng
And I think contact lenses. Let's play it. Yeah, that's. That's crazy Asian. Bring catfish to a whole new level.
Theo Von
Yeah, it's like one of those Rorschach Church.
Nigel Ng
No. Search like crazy Chinese makeup. And you. You'll see it on Tick Tock.
Theo Von
But the beauty of it is, is how much. How artistic and that Asians are.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. But it takes ages. It takes so much time out of your day.
Theo Von
Yeah. Agents, they call them.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Look at this woman just transform. Yeah. Oh, she even puts a fake nose on to make the nose slimmer.
Theo Von
Oh, look at this. Huh? Oh, it's Rob Schneider. It's just a joke, Rob. Wow.
Nigel Ng
This is really what Jeff Bezos's wife does, you know.
Theo Von
This is crazy, bro. This really happens.
Nigel Ng
I think this is a rare case, you know?
Theo Von
Yeah. I love Rob, though. Getting close, dude.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, he's the after.
Theo Von
That's almost L. King, at least. Yeah, he's the after, bro. Rob just performed down in Louisiana. Was pretty cool. What. What else can we talk about?
Nigel Ng
How many episodes do you put out a week? Three? Four?
Theo Von
No, no, no, no. One or two. One or two put out six a month.
Nigel Ng
Ah, okay.
Theo Von
So that's kind of where we're at in the space right now. It's interesting because, you know, over time you start thinking, like, well, you start learning more stuff. So then there's more stuff you want to talk about. Right? And then you start thinking, well, I want to, you know, if people are listening, I want to introduce them to things that I like that I think are neat, you know, or people that it's like, oh, maybe they wouldn't know about, you know, like, if half of our audience doesn't know about you and they listen and they love you. Like, I've had a great time chatting, man. It's been very fun.
Nigel Ng
Same. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Theo Von
And I was, like, kind of worried. I was like, I don't know what it's going to be like, but it's.
Nigel Ng
A normal guy, man.
Theo Von
You're hilarious.
Nigel Ng
Thank you. Thank you.
Theo Von
So funny, dude. And so I'm like, yeah, I think it's just things like that. And then I would like to be able to learn more stuff, like have people in to learn more. You know, we're trying to have a health care, like a doctor from Gaza who's been in, like, over there.
Nigel Ng
Come on.
Theo Von
We're trying to have somebody come on about dopamine and, like, the effects of, like, dopamine addiction and kind of where we are as, like, especially as men, you know, being addicted and then always jerking off. We always talk about that kind of stuff. And if we can get better.
Nigel Ng
You gotta get that guy who's trying to live forever. The Brian Johnson guy.
Theo Von
Yeah, we saw that guy.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, I'm. I'm fascinated by him.
Theo Von
He's almost Korean, huh?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, he looks like it. Everybody turns Asian after a while. Ariana Grande, her latest look is Asian.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah. Asean, they call it in some places.
Nigel Ng
Asiana Grande.
Theo Von
Asiana Grande. Yeah. Look at this guy. Definitely.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, he's. He's turning into a K pop star.
Theo Von
Oh, Play our song again real quick. It's no bedtime. It's no bedtime. Yeah. This is crazy, man. And do Asian people think, like, they want to live forever? Is that more of an American thing?
Nigel Ng
I think it's an American thing, man.
Theo Von
We.
Nigel Ng
We accept our fate, you know?
Theo Von
Really.
Nigel Ng
But that's what I like about you guys. You think you can change things and sometimes you can. You know, maybe he will live forever. But I have so many relatives who are, like, old, and given how annoying they are, I don't want them to live forever, man. Like, imagine if you're this annoying at 70. Imagine if you're 700. How annoying would you be?
Theo Von
The worst.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. That's part of the reason why I want to do my wedding in Europe. So hopefully none of them can come. It's too far. You have a hip replacement.
Theo Von
Oh, dude. Definitely. Because a lot of the air travel will really wear on some of that metal.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. They can't walk through the tsa. Like, they start beeping.
Theo Von
Yeah. They need. Yeah. I'm trying to think about Asians, but.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, in a sense. In a sense, the thing you want to do with your channel, introducing people to more things. That's kind of the same, what with what I want to do, you know, especially from a food. Because food is so tied to culture. Right. So there are a lot of videos where. Sure. You know, a lot of them is me roasting celebrity chefs. But they're also a lot. Where Uncle Roger travel to a place that. My recent one, I went to Thailand and I got someone who lives there to show me Mark Wiens, another big food place.
Theo Von
Oh, you ate at 6:30am you ate in the morning.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Thai green curry in the morning. Oh, the best I've. I've tasted so good. And I feel like a lot of the times when Western people go to Asia, they always show the weirdest parts of what Asian people eat, you know?
Theo Von
Yeah. Like come eat these cat nuts or whatever. Huh?
Nigel Ng
Yeah. So I feel like me doing this is kind of like, like almost like an insider view of Asia compared to, like a Western perspective of Asia. And I feel like that's my little contribution to the Internet.
Theo Von
Yeah. Oh, there you go.
Nigel Ng
Oh, yeah, that's me.
Theo Von
And that's just a. That's just a secret curry spice.
Nigel Ng
I look good. This is a high effort podcast, man. You got a Photoshop person on board?
Theo Von
Yeah, we got one guy, but it's just a secret seasoning you're selling. Yeah, yeah, that'd be great.
Nigel Ng
That's. That's a chili sauce. That's my new chili sauce.
Theo Von
Well, I think Asian food is just expanding in the U.S. i'm sure that it's just growing. Look that up. Is Asian cuisine growing in America?
Nigel Ng
It must definitely, definitely. And there are so many of us globally, you know, evasion. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Theo Von
Oh, you see one Asian, you've seen them all. That's the old motto. Yeah. Asian cuisine is growing, Is growing in popular in America. This is reflected in the increase of Asian restaurants. Well, that's easy to say.
Nigel Ng
So it's getting more and more specific. Oh, so sorry. Please read first.
Theo Von
Go back up. US visitors to Asia saw a 33% jump, while Oceania and Central America each saw a 30% increase. So people just traveling. Yeah, traveling overall is just increasing their pallet.
Nigel Ng
Japan is the gateway drug to Asia because Americans love Japan. Then when they get there, they love it so much. Then you get the courage to explore other parts of Asia. Thailand, Cambodia. See the landmines, you know, see the lady boys in Bangkok.
Theo Von
Oh, dude.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
They'll both blow you up.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah. One. One's a little nicer, I think, you know?
Theo Von
Yeah, that's true.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, I think. I think Thailand's been doing the trans thing for a long time. They've nailed it.
Theo Von
Yeah, I think, you know, that's growing too. Men that prefer trans women and bring that up. How much are people enjoying more trans sexual.
Nigel Ng
But the trans people in Thailand are a lot like hot, hot. Oh, you know, they. They put a lot of effort into. Into their. That process.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah. They're not just these bootleg trans people.
Nigel Ng
They have pageants, they have competitions.
Theo Von
Yeah. Here we just have some Thick ginger running around with a bra on during the streets of New Orleans during Marty Gro. And he's yelling that he's into something new or whatever. It's like, you're not. You're just a. Some St. Patrick's Day bear.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
You know these are men right here.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, they're all dudes, man. Man.
Theo Von
Well, what are we. If you hadn't told me that, I would be empty in an hour. I'm just saying, sometimes people just say wiener is just long.
Nigel Ng
I. I don't think anybody said that. I think it's just you, Theo. A wiener is a long. I mean, I think that's just you, man.
Theo Von
I think it's something you hear if you put your. You know, if you.
Nigel Ng
If you really dig the Internet, that. Dig deep.
Theo Von
Wiener's just that long. Who won? The pageant was inaugurated in 1998. Okay, let me get a little bit more of this, because this is really fascinating. Sandra Pimai collapsed to the floor and shed tears of joy after she was announced the winner of the 25th Miss Tiffany pageant, held at the Tiffany Show Theater in Patia on Sunday night. Saruta triumphed after failing to catch the judge's eye on. On four previous appearances as a Miss Tiffany contestant.
Nigel Ng
Wow.
Theo Von
Miss Tiffany. A nod to the pageant's original goal of promoting human rights and equality for transgender people in Thailand and around the world. Are transgender people accepted in Thailand? Yeah, they are.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
So it's a big part of their culture.
Nigel Ng
It's a big part of the culture. They've dealt with this. That ahead of the time. You know, I think the arguments people have over here about the trans issue, I think Thailand probably had that. That 20 years ago. So now it's just part of society. They don't even think about the pronouns. They just get called, like she, her, or whatever they want to get called. So it's nice. I think we can learn from that a little bit.
Theo Von
For sure. I think. Yeah. These people are beautiful. Wow. This is a. That's a young lady, huh?
Nigel Ng
Yeah. They look good, man.
Theo Von
Hey, it's like you don't know what you don't know. You know? Don't come on my back and tell me it's raining. You know, that's that old.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Wives tale.
Nigel Ng
I think you're gonna tour Thailand. Thailand next.
Theo Von
Wow. I don't know. I don't want.
Nigel Ng
You're gonna risk finding out you enjoy this.
Theo Von
I don't know. You just, you know, you don't want to accidentally bring sand to the freaking wiener beach or Whatever, you know? But, yeah. Oh, no, dude, I think this is great, but I think the issue that we have in America. And that's just a joke, but I think the issue that we have in America is that it's. You have men using it mostly for sports. Right. It's like, if you're going over to play sports and, you know, you're a biological male, to me it just feels like you're cheating. Right. We should have a class that's just for trans people and let them compete there.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
And let it be a new thing that we embody and embrace. And that's the thing I would try to start if I'm trans. Like, don't put me in with men or put me in with women. If I'm not exactly as them, let me do something new.
Nigel Ng
I think that's why they have the pageants. They keep them busy with the pageants so they don't do sports.
Theo Von
Oh, that's a good point. Know. Oh, yeah. If you're too busy.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. These. These are actual biological women, and they don't look near as good. Nearly as good as.
Theo Von
That's a good point. Huh?
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Maybe we're coming to a unique time in culture where men are tired of being men, so they would rather spend their time looking like women, and women are tired of being women, and they would rather.
Nigel Ng
Spend time looking like men. Yeah. You can do whatever they want, man. I think if you become a woman, there's a benefit too. You can actually become a Qatari citizen. Right, Right.
Theo Von
Oh, that's a good point.
Nigel Ng
The. The. The Qatari male citizen. So.
Theo Von
Yeah, there's a loophole.
Nigel Ng
That's a loophole.
Theo Von
I like this. Huh? That's the dessert on the menu at Food. Food.
Nigel Ng
It's Uncle Roger. Yeah.
Theo Von
The dessert is a secret path to Qatari citizenship.
Nigel Ng
I like that. I like that.
Theo Von
One last thing I want to talk to you about. Oh, you hear a lot about Taiwan and China, right?
Nigel Ng
Oh. Oh, yeah. That's gotten some trouble there. A few years ago, just.
Theo Von
What, talking about it or. What do you.
Nigel Ng
I just had a joke. If you search Uncle Roger versus China, I just did a bit that. It works all over the world. I did that bit in Bangkok and Toronto and LA works all over the world. So I kind of just want to gently roast Taiwan and gently roast China. And then right after that, all my Chinese social media accounts got banned, you know?
Theo Von
Really?
Nigel Ng
Yeah. That was two years ago. Everything got wiped. If you search Uncle Roger on those Chinese social media apps, you'll find nothing. Even Though I had like hundreds of thousands of followers before that.
Theo Von
Really? And did you have. Oh, yeah. Wow. This has 40 million views, Uncle Roger.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, it's a YouTube short. Those things go viral sometimes.
Theo Von
Not this viral. God. This is the most viral thing since COVID out of China.
Nigel Ng
China. China. Okay. China. Good country, good country. Good dancing.
Theo Von
Good dancing.
Nigel Ng
We have to say that now. Correct. All their phone listening. All their phone listening. This nephew got Huawei phone. They all listening our phone tap into it. Long live presidency. Long live presidency. Uncle Roger. Social credit score going up, guys. Ennis and nephew from Taiwan. Not a real country. Not a real. Not a real country. I hope one day you rejoin the motherland. One China. That's hilarious, dude.
Theo Von
So is that, is that a real feeling in Taiwan? Some of them feel like they should be part of China and some people don't.
Nigel Ng
Yes, it's a very divided thing, but most people don't want to be part of China. Yeah, Taiwan is a very interesting place. They do not use any of the Chinese social media apps. They use the Western ones. They use Facebook, Google, Instagram. Whereas in China all those things are blocked, you know, and you know, released this clip and then everything got wiped from Chinese socials. And then you remember last year, a few months ago, everybody was getting on Red Note, this Chinese app.
Theo Von
Yes.
Nigel Ng
I tried re registering for an account account, and the moment I uploaded my profile photo, that whole account got wiped again.
Theo Von
No.
Nigel Ng
So they, they have some sort of. I'm in some sort of database over there. Over there, so.
Theo Von
So China's against you, you think?
Nigel Ng
I probably can still visit if I get a visa, but I. I don't know if I want to risk it, you know?
Theo Von
Yeah, and they just probably don't want you having a say in what China is like. They just don't want you having a voice in their country.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah. But you know, it is what it is. Sometimes I think in the US we take free speech for granted sometimes and we don't. We forget that not all countries are like this. In the US you say anything and the worst thing that happens is people get mad at you. Yeah, right. In the comments, whatever.
Theo Von
But I don't know, I mean, these days a lot of things get taken down. Even in the us I feel like there's things you can't say. I think things get submerged, you know, or like, what is it called? Shadow band.
Nigel Ng
Shadow band. True, true. But in a stand up context, I feel we get more leeway.
Theo Von
Oh, that's a great point. Point.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. In a stand up context, we get so much freedom here.
Theo Von
Do. What is the biggest issue over there with Taiwan? Do you think that they'll remain free because they make some of the most semiconductors in the world? Right.
Nigel Ng
Tsmc, that company. Yeah.
Theo Von
Taiwan Semiconductor.
Nigel Ng
Taiwan's TSMC is the only reason China hasn't attacked Taiwan yet. You know, wow, that's too valuable.
Theo Von
China and the United States both view Taiwan's dominance of the global tech supply chain as a national security risk. In response, they have tried to boost their own capacity to make chips that they need. Yeah, I think they're trying to make more chips in the U.S. i know that that was something I saw like a couple weeks ago. Nvidia's chief says US chip controls on China have backfired. Jensen Huang, who I'd love to talk to the chip maker's top executive from Nvidia. They're the number one. They're the leader in chips, I believe, said the attempt to cut off the flow of advanced AI chips spurred Chinese companies to accelerate their development. Wow. Lawmakers in Washington have worked for years to limit China's access to the cutting edge computer chips needed for advanced artificial intelligence, particularly those made by Nvidia, America's leading chip maker. And yeah, so what they're. These are the chips that are used.
Nigel Ng
For AI and for some reason, weapons, you know, rockets.
Theo Von
Right. It's just there's. And for some reason they make them the best over here year. Right. Taiwan has the best ones, I think.
Nigel Ng
So so far. So far, yeah.
Theo Von
But according to Nvidia's chief executive, Jensen Huang, those regulations driven by economic and security concerns have only made Chinese tech companies stronger. Wow.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
I mean this is the type of thing somebody would go to war because whoever controls this is going to control a lot of things.
Nigel Ng
I think this is going over my head, man. I just, I just, I just buy some bitcoin and call it a day, you know?
Theo Von
Yeah. Oh, me too. I'm just wondering what could happen to the people of Tom. Taiwan. Right. I think that's my like question is like, do people there live every day? It must be weird there. Every day you're going to a factory probably and creating these chips, but knowing that the creation of these chips could have a semblance on if your country gets attacked or attempted to be controlled. It has to be very strange. I feel like, you know, I. Do you think that makes any sense or no?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have this, maybe this added responsibility. I better make a, a good chip, otherwise China's gonna ruin us.
Theo Von
Right. Or by Keeping and make these. Like, what if we all decided we're not going to make them? Would they all just leave us alone and we could just be at peace?
Nigel Ng
No, if, if Taiwan stops making them, China is gonna attack it. Ah, China needs those chips right now. That's why they're not bombing the factory.
Theo Von
Oh, I see. So they need them because they're supplying them.
Nigel Ng
Yes, yes. So if you start making it, that'll be like, you know, if, like a, if a, what do you call it? A bin man. What A garbage truck person, you know, if they suck at their job, the whole country gets attacked. Oh yeah, that, that, that would be stressful.
Theo Von
Oh, it'd be the worst.
Nigel Ng
If I do work in and out. If you got the order wrong, Mexico's coming.
Theo Von
Do. This is me. One of my last questions. Do you think so a lot of goods from America are made in Asia.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Right?
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
Do you think that, how do Asian people feel about that? Like, do they take a lot of pride that they make it all these like things that go all over the world, do they just feel like it's just a means to an end and there's not a lot of pride in it? Like, what does that feel like? Do you feel like, especially probably to China, China is the place that gets labeled a lot as like making everything, you know?
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
What do you, what have you heard or what? Like, what do people say about that? Does that make sense to you?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, Malaysia makes quite a few things too. Not as much as China for sure. I feel like to us it's, it's, it's a job and it's a decent job and without those manufacturing jobs, those people will have a shittier life, you know, So I think we like that, those things, you know, globalization. I think when people talk about globalization, they see from the American perspective. Yeah, you are losing jobs to the outside world. But on the flip side, we Asians are gaining some jobs that pay better than those jobs that existed prior. Like, you know, working at a hawker stall selling noodles all day, manufacturing shoes probably pays them more. And I think this is a tough part. Right. Sometimes the economy I feel is a zero sum game, right. Making the shoe, it's either a job in America or a job in Asia. We only need so many shoes, right? So. But we do think it is good. It helps us elevate our quality of life. And hopefully in a few generations time the Asians will have made more money and then maybe we won't have to do those menial manufacturing jobs anymore. Anymore. But for now it, you know, it's that the same thing where there was a news article, I think it came out recently, a couple last year maybe where in New York they were starting to use, you know, like self checkout lines. But then you had a FaceTime video calling someone from the Philippines. The, the persons being the checkout. The cashier for you from the Philippines.
Theo Von
Oh, so you had like a, you had a zoom call with a checkout person.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, yeah. So the whole Internet hated it. But then from my perspective, it's like the person in the Philippines is probably getting paid way more than any job that she would have gotten. The person that they would have gotten in the Philippines. And this is, it's just a hard part of. It's not an easy problem to solve. Right. Global inequality. And I think it just takes time maybe. And just the hope is one day globalization will just even the playing field. Everybody can afford the things we need in life. Healthcare, a house, vehicle that. Those things. So that's my take on it. It's not very funny, but hopefully. Yeah, that, that's the thing.
Theo Von
Oh, Philippine. Yeah.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
But no, I think that's great. Well, I just always wonder, like, I always think like, oh, yeah, it's just like how I look at it from my perspective as an American. I never think like, what do these people feel about it? Like, you know, we probably like it.
Nigel Ng
To, to the Philippine Filipino person.
Theo Von
Sure.
Nigel Ng
She's just working from home, putting a fake zoom background.
Theo Von
Nothing.
Nigel Ng
Just clocking in.
Theo Von
Cooking.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, not even cooking. She's just checking out the cash here.
Theo Von
Yeah, but she could be cooking at the same time.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, she can be cooking for. Yeah, for her kids. She'll be home for her kids. Because in Asia, people work long hours, man. There's some, you know, in Malaysia we have domestic helpers sometimes who are coming from Indonesia and they live with us. Right. So they are just gone from their, from their families three years at a time and they, they get one day off a week maybe where they get to call their family. So this Filipino job, this virtual cashier job, that's like the best job that's working remotely, man. That's being a digital nomad for them. Yeah, I like that they're doing that in Bali, you know, I like that tree.
Theo Von
I like that. Yeah, but what about this? So, and I'll say this round of applause for Filipinos. I want to say that, right?
Nigel Ng
Yes. Jo Koy.
Theo Von
Doing good job.
Nigel Ng
Did good.
Theo Von
Yeah, Doing good job.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
But I want to say Filipinos, it's funny because they're usually the last people you see before you die because a lot of them work in hospice care.
Nigel Ng
Oh, that's. That's true.
Theo Von
You know, I was.
Nigel Ng
I was wondering where this conversation was going.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, it's going up and you.
Nigel Ng
Just see the light, and then it's a Filipino person.
Theo Von
It's just like. Well, the light is a little light. It's a little bit blocked. Yeah. By like one Filipino person with like a stethoscope, you know?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, it's Joe Coy blocking the life.
Theo Von
But they often have a lot of the same name, you know, Debbie, Deb.
Nigel Ng
Debit, Debit, Debit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Theo Von
What's another one name?
Nigel Ng
Maria.
Theo Von
Susie.
Nigel Ng
Susie.
Theo Von
Popular. Look at a popular Filipino American names. Then we'll get you out of here.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Maria Christina.
Theo Von
Filipino.
Nigel Ng
Yeah.
Theo Von
I want to be when it happens again.
Nigel Ng
I think they have the biggest eyes for Asians.
Theo Von
Full of love.
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Full of love and care. Oh, when you. When you're in hospice, you don't want you. We want someone with, like, big round eyes taking care of you, you know?
Theo Von
Big round eyes. You ever heard that song?
Nigel Ng
No. Oh, I know that song.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah. It's about Filipino love. That's about Pinoy heartbreak.
Nigel Ng
I think in hospice care, you don't want a squinty eyed person taking care of you. They look like they're up to something.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah.
Nigel Ng
They're secret, huh? Yeah.
Theo Von
James, that could be one Edward.
Nigel Ng
Edward. Yeah, yeah. Filipino.
Theo Von
Yeah, A lot.
Nigel Ng
Benjamin.
Theo Von
Benjamin. Yeah, Benjamin. A lot of good Filipinos. God.
Nigel Ng
Mario's good.
Theo Von
Oh, like Italian. Filipino.
Nigel Ng
Ah.
Theo Von
Like, oh, Pinoy pasta, pizza, ravioli. Yeah, I would love to be Filipino next time, man.
Nigel Ng
Yeah, let's reincarnate, man.
Theo Von
Dude, we could come back, huh?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, I better come back rich, dude. I want to come back to a kid with rich parents.
Theo Von
Oh, you want to be a kid of rich parents?
Nigel Ng
Oh, it doesn't matter what race. Doesn't matter what race. Just kid with rich parents.
Theo Von
But would you attack them? Were you like Menendez them or whatever?
Nigel Ng
Men then what?
Theo Von
Like Menendez brothers. The guys that. I think they attacked their parents or something because they brought them cold food or whatever. I haven't looked at it.
Nigel Ng
I probably would just to get their inheritance, you know. I'll make sure they write their will down first. Yeah, Just double check the wheel. All right. Step, step, step.
Theo Von
Okay. It sounds dangerous. Yeah, dangerous for us. Nigel, thank you so much for coming in, man. We really appreciate your time.
Nigel Ng
Bring you to some good food sometime.
Theo Von
Yeah, I would love to do that.
Nigel Ng
And make A video or something.
Theo Von
I'd love to, dude. Yeah, I'd love to swap. We got to swap a number or something. And this has been one of my favorite interviews, man. Thank you so much. Like, sometimes I go into, like a day or something. I'm sure this happens to everybody, but it's like, how's this day gonna be? And you're, like, kind of tired, you're just been along, whatever, and then it's awesome, you know?
Nigel Ng
Thank you. Likewise. Likewise.
Theo Von
So I think that's the power of, like, people getting together, right? Because sometimes you need somebody else to make your day better, you know? And so I want to say thank you so much for your time and, yeah, I hope you do get that extra restaurant opened up, dude. I think it would be exciting for people to go see and for more people to learn about foods from different parts of the world. You can check out Uncle Roger's channel. He's got a great channel. It's Nigel. Nigel, yeah, Nigel. And we'll put all the links and everything, man. Anything else that you wanted to share?
Nigel Ng
No, that's it. Check out my channel. Channel, yeah.
Theo Von
Oh, and best of luck with the marriage, dude. Let's say one nice thing. Say one or two, three or two or three nice things about your wife so that one day she can look back and she'll have this. What's something.
Nigel Ng
Look back to the Theo Von Podcast.
Theo Von
That's true. That's a horrible thought to say, huh? Is that egotistical to say that?
Nigel Ng
No, no, it's okay. I think she'll be happy. She's just. Yeah, she'll love it. Yeah.
Theo Von
What's something nice about her that you really admire?
Nigel Ng
I think. I think she's a love of my life and she makes every day better.
Theo Von
Whoa, dude, that's gay, bro. Play the song again. Dude, that's the gayest I've ever heard, bro.
Nigel Ng
God, dude, I regret saying that now. I regret.
Theo Von
I'm joking, dude. Shut it down. No. Okay. You think you found. You think you found the love of your life?
Nigel Ng
Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
Theo Von
That's cool.
Nigel Ng
That's why people get married, right?
Theo Von
Yeah. Yeah, That's a good point. Huh? If you haven't found the love of your life, then what, do you just part time in it with somebody on your heart?
Nigel Ng
Yeah. Situationship. Just the buddy of your life.
Theo Von
Yeah. You know, that's a long haul, man. Well, congratulations. Two months to your marriage.
Nigel Ng
Yep.
Theo Von
Oh, it's exciting.
Nigel Ng
Yep. Very few relatives are coming. Oh, it's too far.
Theo Von
Not allowed too far.
Nigel Ng
For these old Asians.
Theo Von
Shut them down. Shut them down? Them.
Nigel Ng
Deport them from Europe.
Theo Von
Pull the semiconductors right out of their backs. Dude, we do not need them hitting the air.
Nigel Ng
Go back to the factory.
Theo Von
To that factory in the sky. Dude, thank you so much. Have a good day, brother.
Nigel Ng
You too can be gay, too. There ain't nothing you need to hide. Your games won't really survive tomorrow.
Theo Von
You might not be alive.
Nigel Ng
Niggas can be gay, too.
Podcast Summary: "This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von" Episode #586 featuring Nigel Ng
Introduction: Welcome Nigel Ng Release Date: June 3, 2025
In Episode #586 of "This Past Weekend with Theo Von," host Theo Von welcomes Nigel Ng, a multifaceted content creator, restaurateur, and comedian renowned for his popular character, Uncle Roger—a grumpy food critic who humorously critiques celebrity chefs. With a following exceeding 30 million, Nigel brings a unique blend of comedy and cultural insights to the show.
Exploring Asian Stereotypes and Physical Features [01:14 - 05:00] Theo initiates a lighthearted conversation about common Asian stereotypes and physical characteristics. They discuss perceptions around Asian vanity and physical traits, with Nigel emphasizing the diversity within Asian communities.
Notable Quote: Nigel Ng [04:16]: “Malaysia. You know, we're like a little, tiny little country. We live well there. The quality of life is pretty good. But we're not like a big tourist place.”
Malaysian Culture and Social Dynamics [05:00 - 15:00] The discussion shifts to Malaysia, where Nigel shares insights about the country's multicultural society, predominantly Malay Muslim population, and the peaceful coexistence among different ethnic groups. They touch upon aspects like dietary restrictions, halal certification, and societal norms.
Notable Quote: Nigel Ng [11:00]: “So if a Malay person is caught eating at a non-halal restaurant, depending on where you are, it could be, you know, you could get into trouble.”
The Tragic MH370 Disappearance [25:00 - 32:00] Nigel and Theo delve into the mysterious disappearance of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370. They explore various theories, including the possibility of pilot suicide, and discuss the ongoing search efforts and their personal reflections on the incident.
Notable Quote: Nigel Ng [25:36]: “He just drove the plane until he ran out of gas and it just sunk into the ocean.”
Family Structures: Malaysia vs. Western Cultures [18:00 - 22:00] The conversation contrasts family dynamics in Malaysia with those in Western countries. Nigel explains the importance of extended family living arrangements in Malaysia and how it fosters strong familial bonds.
Notable Quote: Nigel Ng [18:43]: “People live with their parents, and it's socially acceptable to do that.”
Asian Cuisine and Food Culture [45:00 - 75:00] A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to food, reflecting Nigel's expertise as Uncle Roger. They discuss the nuances of Malaysian cuisine, the rise of Asian restaurants globally, and the authenticity of food portrayals in media. Nigel shares his experiences with his restaurant, Fuyo, and the challenges of bringing authentic Asian flavors to a broader audience.
Notable Quote: Nigel Ng [85:15]: “Good, man. We are very proud of our fried rice. And I came up with a few of the recipes.”
Cultural Differences and Social Issues [75:00 - 96:00] The duo explores broader cultural issues, including the acceptance of transgender individuals in Thailand versus Western countries, and the impact of social media censorship in China. They discuss the balance between cultural preservation and modernization, emphasizing the challenges faced by Asian communities both locally and internationally.
Notable Quote: Nigel Ng [89:26]: “They use the Western ones. They use Facebook, Google, Instagram. Whereas in China all those things are blocked.”
Globalization and Manufacturing: Asia's Pivotal Role [96:00 - End] The final segment addresses globalization, focusing on Asia's critical role in global manufacturing and technology, particularly Taiwan's dominance in semiconductor production. Theo and Nigel discuss the geopolitical implications of manufacturing hubs and the interconnectedness of global economies.
Notable Quote: Nigel Ng [97:29]: “Globalization... it helps us elevate our quality of life. And hopefully in a few generations time the Asians will have made more money and then maybe we won't have to do those menial manufacturing jobs anymore.”
Conclusion: Celebrating Diversity and Culinary Excellence Theo wraps up the episode by celebrating Nigel's contributions to both comedy and the culinary world. They emphasize the importance of cultural exchange and understanding, highlighting how food serves as a universal language that bridges diverse communities.
Final Note: Theo Von expresses heartfelt congratulations to Nigel on his upcoming marriage, underscoring the personal connections forged through the podcast.
Key Takeaways:
This episode offers a rich blend of humor, cultural insights, and thoughtful discussions, making it a valuable listen for anyone interested in understanding the intersections of comedy, culture, and globalization.