#636 - Jason Momoa

Summary

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

Episode #636 – Jason Momoa

Release Date: January 26, 2026
Guest: Jason Momoa

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Episode Overview

Theo Von sits down with Jason Momoa – actor, producer, entrepreneur, and the man behind Aquaman. Their wide-ranging conversation covers Jason’s roots, his path from busboy to Hollywood, family and Hawaiian cultural identity, career lessons, environmental activism, close encounters with drowning, and hilarious asides about fame, friendship, and life. The episode radiates with laughs, gratitude, and vivid storytelling from both Theo and Jason.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Their First Meeting and Hollywood Encounters

[00:25–03:50]

• Meeting at SNL’s 50th: Theo describes being physically pulled into Jason Momoa’s orbit during an early encounter, feeling immediately aware of Jason’s imposing presence and friendliness.
• Starstruck Among Legends: Jason shares a surreal moment being introduced to Chevy Chase and Bill Murray by Chevy’s wife in a star-studded room — “I’m sandwiched between them and I’m just going like, this beautiful woman Brought this together.” [02:26, Jason]
• Nostalgia for the ‘90s: Both reminisce about the music (Hanson, Crisscross), and passing on vintage fashion to their kids.

2. Jason’s Early Life and Hawaiian Identity

[03:50–15:40]

• Growing Up Between Iowa and Hawaii: Jason grew up mostly in Iowa after his parents’ divorce but always straddled two cultures. He tells how Bridges of Madison County connects him to both places, and how he’d bus tables to save up for adventures like rock climbing and snowboarding.
• Marine Biology Dreams: Before acting, Jason was set on marine biology — even attended special school programs and took spring trips from Iowa to the Florida Keys.
• Break into TV: A chance casting while surfing in Hawaii at 19 flipped his life from busboy to actor (Baywatch).
• Hawaiian Heritage and Responsibility: Jason, whose father is Hawaiian and mother is of German-Irish descent, explains the deep responsibility and trauma in the Hawaiian community related to colonization, loss of language, and cultural revival:

  “Our culture and our language was completely removed from us, like most indigenous races… really trying to get it back.” [12:03, Jason]

3. Family, Fatherhood, and Cultural Pride

[13:22–16:17, 46:03–47:29]

• Waterman Legacy: Jason’s family is filled with legendary watermen and surfers (notably uncle Buffalo Keaulana and cousin Brian Keaulana), passing on ocean skills across generations.
• Aquaman Parallels: “It’s crazy,” Jason says, to play Aquaman given his family’s deep ties to the sea. He stresses the pride and weight Hawaiians feel to uphold their culture.
• Fatherhood: Jason is a proud dad. His son (Nicola Wolf) recently booked a part in “Dune.” He notes the challenge and pride of having kids following him into the industry:

  “They grew up on set with me… now my son just auditioned on his own and got it.” [46:12–46:35, Jason]

4. Nature, Danger, and Lessons from Drowning

[16:17–18:50, 78:10–79:44]

• Theo and Jason Trade Drowning Stories:

  “Drowning sucks… everything flashes in and you can’t move your arms anymore, and you’re going down and you can’t breathe.” [17:21, Jason]

• Quitting Smoking After a Near-Drowning: After nearly drowning in Maui, Jason quit a lifelong smoking habit on the spot.
• Junior Lifeguarding: Jason and his family spent years as lifeguards, and he’s personally saved lives in the ocean — emphasizing respect for water and knowing how to read rips and currents.

5. The Wrecking Crew and Hollywood Team-ups

[19:24–21:41, 57:12–59:06]

• New Film with Dave Bautista:

  “It’s just a fun movie… want to do laugh a little more… working out family trauma, you know, that kind of stuff.” [20:53, Jason]

• Origin: Jason reveals “The Wrecking Crew” is rooted in a buddy-cop pitch he wrote years ago; Batista’s enthusiastic viral post made it real, with comedy and chemistry at its heart.
• Relationship with Dave Bautista: Jason values Dave for being a genuinely supportive partner, not egotistical, and for being willing to “bleed” for the story —

  “A lot of famous dudes can’t bleed or can’t get hurt. I’m like, fuck, I die in everything.” [57:16, Jason]

6. Creative Fulfillment & Life Balance

[35:38–40:03]

• Accomplishment vs. Fulfillment:
  Jason reflects deeply on hitting his career goals (“I did the TV show for my people, I became Aquaman, lived my dreams”) but wonders why absolute fulfillment remains elusive.

  “Why was I happier when I was in the fucking hole?... There’s these little smaller things that I love doing and staying busy.” [35:38–37:45, Jason]

• Gratitude and Mental Health: Both talk about the importance of gratitude, staying busy with passion projects, and keeping perspective in the face of “success.”
• On Working and Saying No:

  “I don’t have any time for those things. I have a hard time saying no, so I say yes to everything… Here’s the thing. I’m doing everything I love to do, so I don’t ever think of it as work.” [39:00, Jason]

7. Comedy, Writing, and New Projects

[31:40–33:31, 83:08–84:38]

• Theo’s Busboys Film with David Spade:

  “It's called Busboys. It's about two guys who aren't doing that good and… if we can become waiters, then everything will be great.” [32:15, Theo]

• Andy Samberg Collaboration: Jason unexpectedly lands a new comedy with Samberg after a chance meeting, quick pitch, and immediate green light.
• Friendships & Networking: Both note the weird joy of Hollywood: creative partnerships spark out of random meetings and mutual respect.

8. Culture and Language on Set

[25:00–26:31]

• On 'Chief of War': Jason details the pride and challenge of creating an authentic Hawaiian-language historical drama, involving many Polynesian actors learning ancient Hawaiian for the first time:

  "We did it in our native language… all these people in there doing that, it's hard. It was the hardest for me." [25:21, Jason]

9. Adventures, Travel, and Connections

[67:26–70:56]

• Guatemala, Family, and Music: Recent travels with his partner to Guatemala, meeting her family, being ‘the gringo,’ and attending concerts by her father, major Latin musician Ricardo Arjona.
• Favorite Places: Theo and Jason swap favorite travel stories (Theo: South Africa, Jason: Guatemala and Hawaii).

10. Environmental Activism & Entrepreneurship

[73:01–77:51]

• Mananalu Water: Jason’s eco-startup makes water in aluminum bottles to fight plastic waste, promoting zero-waste hospitality and hotel systems, especially in Hawaii:

  "We don’t need single use plastic… the idea is just to cut waste… bottled up… constantly reusable and recyclable." [76:35, Jason]

• Vision: Wants to expand the model across hotels, schools, and businesses, using local water and circular systems.

11. Life, Fitness, and Getting Older

[81:11–82:07]

• Training for Aquaman: Found the gym work for superhero roles ‘pretty challenging’ but prefers outdoor sports (rock climbing, surfing) to regimented workouts.

12. Fame, Recognition, and Humor

[60:27–65:03]

• Being Recognized: Jason laughs about attempts to disguise himself in public (“I can’t hide. I mean, I'm in the flannel and a hat. It's about as hiding as it gets.” [65:16]) and about being compared to other celebrities and meme figures.
• Rock Climbing Therapy: Finds peace and focus while rock climbing and riding motorcycles:

  “It’s just like you can’t do anything else but be there… That's my therapy or meditation.” [52:27, Jason]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“It's a beautiful teacher, man. The ocean's the ultimate teacher… Drowning sucks. No way about it.” — Jason Momoa [17:13]

“Why was I happier when I was in the fucking hole?... Sometimes, I’m still hunting, I’m hungry.” — Jason Momoa [35:38]

“A lot of famous dudes can’t bleed or can’t get hurt. I’m like, fuck, I die in everything.” — Jason Momoa [57:16]

“You make people smile. You make me smile.” — Jason Momoa to Theo Von [01:52]

“If you can’t afford to take your wife to Hawaii, take her to see this movie.” — Theo Von [21:22] on The Wrecking Crew

“I was with Laird [Hamilton]. I was out surfing… My leash snapped, and I was stuck out in the middle of the ocean… That’s when smoking was done for me.” — Jason Momoa [18:51]

"I can't sit still... if I don't have those things, I was pretty self-destructive if I wasn't creating and constantly doing stuff." — Jason Momoa [37:54]

"Bus boys are dope. They're always the coolest. They're gonna have the drugs. They're gonna know where the shit's at." — Jason Momoa [33:00]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Hollywood Encounters: [01:25–02:43]
• Growing Up / Early Jobs: [04:06–07:41]
• Hawaiian Roots / Family History: [13:22–15:12]
• Near-Drowning, Quitting Smoking: [17:13–18:51]
• Discussion of The Wrecking Crew: [19:24–21:29]
• Chief of War & Representation: [22:11–25:21]
• Comedy Projects / Busboys: [31:40–33:31]
• Passion vs. Career Fulfillment: [35:38–39:44]
• Rock Climbing / Therapy: [52:13–53:23]
• Monanalu Water / Eco-Entrepreneurship: [73:01–77:51]
• Fame & Trying to Hide: [63:10–65:18]

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Tone & Language

• The episode is riff-driven, fast-paced, and deeply personal yet irreverently funny — classic Theo Von and Jason Momoa.
• Language is warm, informal, and occasionally profane but always authentic.
• Both hosts share stories with humor and vivid details, putting their unique spins on even heavy subjects (family trauma, near-death, career ambivalence).

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Listen to This Episode If…

• You’re a fan of Jason Momoa and want to hear him unplugged — reflecting, joking, and getting real about his life, family, and beliefs.
• You want behind-the-scenes insight on Hollywood, fame, and creative work.
• You’re interested in Hawaiian culture, environmental activism, or just love a hilarious, heartfelt chat.

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Recommended:
Catch “The Wrecking Crew” in theaters for buddy-cop action and comedy, plus Hawaii’s stunning landscapes. For more on Jason’s eco-project, check out Mananalu Water.

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Transcript

[Theo Von]

Today's guest is an actor, a producer, an entrepreneur. He's a real Do it all type brother. He has a new film out with Dave Bautista called the Wrecking Crew. Highly recommend it. Great action film. He's out the Mud and the Water. It's Aquaman. Today's guest is Mr. Jason Momoa. We'll be fine. We'll be fine.

[Jason Momoa]

I'm here to do the greatest Theo Von interview ever. I'm so.

[Theo Von]

Oh, damn. Actually, it could be it. I'm trying to think. We've had the greatest one. We had an Amish kid that was pretty great.

[Jason Momoa]

Oh, wow.

[Theo Von]

He's pure Amish, too. He's like, every now and then, I'll sneak off to the creek, and we hide a cell phone down there, and we'll listen a little bit of Def Leppard. That was one of the best things I ever heard.

[Jason Momoa]

A little bit. Pour some sugar on me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dude.

[Theo Von]

And I don't think they have sugar, which is the craziest part. So just down there listening to songs about illegal ingredients, that's all they're doing. Jason, thanks for hanging out, man.

[Jason Momoa]

Thanks for having me, buddy.

[Theo Von]

We met at the. At the 50th. I think it was the 50th SNL.

[Jason Momoa]

Yep.

[Theo Von]

I just remember I was walking, and then this big, like, kind of, I would say, semi beautiful hand just grabbed me. This thing that definitely. And immediately I felt like I hadn't been in the gym. That was, like, my immediate feeling. And then it just, like, pulled me into, like, this orbit. And it was like, hey, man, nice.

[Jason Momoa]

To see you here.

[Theo Von]

And that was it, dude. But it was awesome.

[Jason Momoa]

This is great to see you, man.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, it made my day.

[Jason Momoa]

You make people smile. You make me smile. So I'm like. When you see that, like, was a bit of an overload there.

[Theo Von]

It was a lot.

[Jason Momoa]

And I feel like once you're talking. Yeah. Like, when you're with Meryl Streep and Robert Dairo is on one thing. And then, you know, I freaked out when I saw Chevy Chase.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Like, this grand. This older lady's like, come here, darling. You're. You're the Aquaman. I was like, yeah. And she's like, chevy, get over here. Chevy, get over here. I'm like, oh, my gosh. This is Chevy Chase's wife. And then she's like, bill, get over here. And I'm. Who's Bill Murray?

[Theo Von]

Oh, God.

[Jason Momoa]

Chevy chasing Bill Murray. I'm sandwiched between them, and I'm just going like, this beautiful woman Brought this together. Bill's like, who the is this guy? And she's like. And. And so was. So is Chevy. And he's like, that's. That's the Aquaman. Our grandchildren love him.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

But you just go like. It was. There it is.

[Theo Von]

Oh, that's cool.

[Jason Momoa]

See, in my mind, I was sandwiched.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

But right there, I'm a little bit more of the bunny. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

You seem like more of a bun.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

You know, or like a nice rye or something.

[Jason Momoa]

A pumpernickel, so. But we were. That was. It was just a. It was a crazy night, huh?

[Theo Von]

Yeah. That was a lot, man. I met Hanson.

[Jason Momoa]

Hanson was there.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. They look like adult Hanson kids.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. Because what year are you born?

[Theo Von]

I'm born in 1980.

[Jason Momoa]

I'm 79. There we go. So we know what Hanson's look like when they were bopping it out.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, we know. The real hands.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. I just gave my son a crisscross cross color that. You remember that brand? It's like. It was just this brand that I had when, like, crisscross came out, and my son didn't know who that was. And it was a year. It was the. And was it the year you were born, baby, when it came out? 82? Yeah, I think it was crisscross cross colors. Anyways, I just gave it to my son, and I was just dating myself, man. But it was. It was a. It was a moment. I've been unpacking my. My old stuff and giving it to my son, and he loves it because all that stuff's cool again.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah. Things come back around. Yeah. You grew up in Hawaii.

[Jason Momoa]

I was born in Hawaii, yeah. And my parents got divorced when I was little, and I moved to Iowa. But, like, in the Bridges of Madison County, Iowa, like, dude, Meryl Streep, Bridges of Madison. Boom.

[Theo Von]

One of my favorite books. The book and the movie, it's identical. It's like word for word. Yeah. Every. The. The. The movie's the exact way of the book, so. Not that that matters.

[Jason Momoa]

So I'm like, graduated, you know.

[Theo Von]

Did you go to University of Iowa?

[Jason Momoa]

No, No, I actually went to. We like to make fun of it, University of Southern Ankeny. I went to dmacc, Des Moines Area Community College and then went to.

[Theo Von]

Is that still open?

[Jason Momoa]

It is dmacc. And then I went off to get in state tuition in Colorado, and I went. I was living out in Colorado State and I was working with the trail crew out there and working at Lee Cyclery and Bazettis and all these different bus and tables and trying to get in state tuition. Trying to postpone college as much as possible and then trying to postpone it.

[Theo Von]

Or stay in it.

[Jason Momoa]

Well, just trying to get in state tuition so I could. So you could go wildlife biology there. But I want. I went to school. I. It's weird because when I was in Iowa, I did marine biology. They have a place called Central Campus where all these different schools would go into Des Moines and you would learn marine biology and I'd have like a shark tank. Said I had my own eel. And you'd learn about all these different things. And I always want to be a marine biologist. And we'd spin our spring breaks down in the Keys that. So we get in a yellow bus, go all the way down to. From fucking Iowa all the way down to the Keys.

[Theo Von]

That's so far.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. And we'd study with scientists. But I did that two years, get credit for college. But. And then I was going to go, like, over summertime, I was like, I'll go to Hawaii since I'm Hawaiian. Maybe I'll get a better deal going to college. And TV show came.

[Theo Von]

That was it.

[Jason Momoa]

And I was just surfing with my family and a big, Pretty big surf family. So we. And then a show came and I ended up getting. It changed everything.

[Theo Von]

I was 19 and you were working, so that. But they had the ant. Oh, my God, that's him.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. Dude, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't what?

[Theo Von]

Get some lotion out to rub on the picture. Have some respect, guys. Dude, that's wild that you got to live.

[Jason Momoa]

I was 19, man. That was crazy. My job before that was busting tables. Yeah. Working the surf shop.

[Theo Von]

I bus tables, bro. I was for one of the first busers to ever use creatine in Arizona, south of Phoenix. I was one of the best bus boys there was. I think for probably about a two and a half year period.

[Jason Momoa]

Is that where you went to Arizona?

[Theo Von]

I went to University of Arizona for one year and then I went to some other schools. But, dude, I was. Oh, I was so good at busting tables, man.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. Well, I would take all the food because I worked at a really nice, nice restaurant.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

And we were all my buddies that lived together. Just a bunch of climbing dirt bags. And I'd bring this nice pasta home because, you know, if the, if the, if the, the couple didn't look too sus. And they left their stuff.

[Theo Von]

Yes.

[Jason Momoa]

You know, you just box that in and bring it home. And so I always had like the best restaurants.

[Theo Von]

Pasta, dude. I worked at a place called Dakota's Wine and Feed. And the guy there was taught like this is perverted manager who would kind of teach us how to do like he would like kind of like oral sex on women, but just like in conversation. Anyway, that guy was a complete pervert. But I will take. Not in person, not with a real woman. Just he would like tell us young kids like how to do it and stuff and we didn't know was going on. Dude. Like I remember when he would talk about it, all the pimples on my face would like explode at once. But anyway, that was beside the point. But they had very nice food there. And I remember if I'd see a couple, if they use their knife, that to me was like, oh, they're fancy. I can eat off of their plate.

[Jason Momoa]

Yes.

[Theo Von]

So if the knife was dirty, I would definitely take a little bit of that. Like some cured ham or some specialty meats on there and I get a stack of like some like special sandwich. I was made of all types of stuff. Yeah man, it was nice. That's back feeding the homies. Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

And back then it's like when you're out of your mom's house, your first time out, you're like orange juice was like champagne. If someone had orange ju, like oh my God, I haven't had orange juice. And cuz it all went to beer and booze. Yeah, right. Milk. Never saw it again. You left mom's house Milk. And then it's basically water beer. My dad still kind of had to pay child support. So that was like that paid rent. And I, I, I could just save enough bus and tables.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Where I could work just Thursday, Friday, Saturday I go rock climbing and snowboarding. So it'd be Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday I come back. So I had like four. I had a little plan, you know.

[Theo Von]

And were you with like a certain group of friends from growing up or was it just is like it's still like a core group or was it just guys?

[Jason Momoa]

There's one guy, I didn't have too many friends growing up and I, I mean I had friends but like the like true buddies, they're, they're in my neighborhood, but they stayed there. There's one guy, he is my best friend to this day. Godfather. My kids. He went out to Colorado first, so he was one year older. And then I went there out there to be with him and he's my best. Yeah, he's my best bud. So it was just us running. Running amok.

[Theo Von]

So much fun. Colorado is so awesome.

[Jason Momoa]

It is. It was good.

[Theo Von]

God, I love being out there. Is that the altitude always gets me so much, dude. I get affected pretty easily by the environment.

[Jason Momoa]

It's got to be hard for you to go from Nashville to here because you get dry. Like, I just came from New Zealand right now, and last night I'm like, I felt sorry for my lady because I'm just, like, up wheezing right out.

[Theo Von]

Like, just shedding us, just fucking the bedrock.

[Jason Momoa]

I mean, it's summer down there.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Dude. New Zealand is a dude. I met people. I'm like, what are you talking about? You're not using any letters. They have people there.

[Jason Momoa]

It's like, I think that's Australians, but yeah.

[Theo Von]

Oh, we went to New Zealand. We had some shows down in Auckland. And we met. Pete is just like anyone. I. We met guys who, like, it was like they had a sentence stuck in them. They just couldn't get it out of them no matter what. Like, the people there that talked were just. Anyway, it was just some of the craziest lingo I'd ever heard. But one of the most beautiful places we went to. We got to meet Israel Adesanya down there because he lives there.

[Jason Momoa]

Stylebender.

[Theo Von]

Yep. And they were super nice to us whenever we went over there. But we went to the beach one day and they said you can only be outside of the beach for a certain amount of time because they don't have that much marine lay. Or they don't have the.

[Jason Momoa]

Have the ozone.

[Theo Von]

Ozone layer get fried, dude. I was like, it's so beautiful, but you got to go back inside.

[Jason Momoa]

I know. Never told me to go back inside, but I mean, yeah, if you're sitting out there, you're going to feel it. Like, you just feel yourself cooking.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Like. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Well, at a certain point, you should go in, I think.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, you should. Definitely should.

[Theo Von]

Or just out there and grill, maybe. So you went. So you went from Des Moines Community College, dmacc.

[Jason Momoa]

Yep.

[Theo Von]

And then you ended up over in Colorado?

[Jason Momoa]

Yep, I'm in Colorado. And then went to Hawaii to get to. Just to kind of be with my father, get to know him better.

[Theo Von]

And was he cool?

[Jason Momoa]

My dad's great. My dad's. He's. He's awesome. But just, I'd go there when I was young, like 8, 9, 10. Like, basically when I was young enough to comprehend it. Right. Enough to be with my mom. And then I'd. I'd go until, like, high school years. We had probably a bit of a falling out, so I didn't go too much. And maybe my sophomore, junior, senior year. So once I. I was like, I'm gonna go back, be with dad, bury the hatchet, and see if I can get into college over there. And. And then, like I said, show came and changed my life. And then kind of tried to, you know, tell my mom, like, I'm on this show. And she's like, what are you talking about? You know, like, my mom's in the same house I was raised in.

[Theo Von]

Wow. She's like, what are you doing? Are you doing something with Satan?

[Jason Momoa]

I know. He's like, you're on Baywatch. Why? I was like, mom. I'm like, it's. It's not what you think. It's, like, a whole different spin on it. They're in Hawaii. It's not. And she's like, what?

[Theo Von]

It's a whole different spin. They're in Hawaii.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. No, I mean, wasn't really on anymore, but they're trying to change it up. So, anyways, Dang. And then I spent the, you know, the next 30 years digging myself out of that hole.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Cheers to that. And here we are now.

[Theo Von]

And so. So your mom is a white woman, and your. Your father is more Islander.

[Jason Momoa]

My dad's Hawaiian. Yeah. Guacamole. And my mom is basically German. Irish.

[Theo Von]

Is there a lot of beef between Hawaiians in Hawaii of, like, the. Are there different kind of sects of, like, sects of Hawaiians, like, different kind of like. Or is it if you're a Hawaiian, you're Hawaiian?

[Jason Momoa]

I mean, that's a good question. I wouldn't say it's like, sex, definitely. You know, back in the day, there was different islands, were different kings until it was united by Kamehameha. But not everyone loved Kamehameha. He could have been with Kahikili, could have been different. You could have been with different islands, and that obviously, to unite them, your family could have been murdered. So I don't. I don't think everyone sees eye to eye. But having said that, like, we are, you know, since we are a part of America now, like, I think all those generations, you know, our culture and our language was completely removed from us, like, most indigenous races. And, you know, really trying to get it back. And I don't necessarily think there's, like, sex to it.

[Theo Von]

Right. Yeah, there's not. Like, so people aren't, like, that tribal. I mean, the Tribe.

[Jason Momoa]

Tell you what. Not as much as like, if you were compared to New Zealand where there's. I, I don't. Don't quote me, but there's 200 plus different iwis. Different tribes in Marais.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah, I met some Iwis.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. Whereas the south island, there's one like Nightahu's just one tribe on the South Island. The north island has many. So it definitely has to go through a lot more if you're trying to agree on certain things. Like, it's got to go through more people, so.

[Theo Von]

Got it. And did your dad have a like, like, is he like very. A very Hawaiian kind of guy?

[Jason Momoa]

Very much so.

[Theo Von]

He is really.

[Jason Momoa]

I mean, in the sense of like.

[Theo Von]

Because there's so much pride in that culture. It's such a unique culture.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. I come from the west side of Oahu. My dad lives in Nanakuli. Most of my family's like Nanakuli, Waianae and then Makaha, and that whole west side is called Hawaiian Homestead Land. This is like our reservation kind of esque kind of thing. And so. But my father's very much a waterman. And in that.

[Theo Von]

What does that mean? He's. He likes to be out in the water.

[Jason Momoa]

He.

[Theo Von]

Or is it a specific job?

[Jason Momoa]

Riggers, paddling, surfing. He was a coach. And I mean just any. A waterman as, as in knowledge of sailing, knowledge of anything out there.

[Theo Von]

And you're Aquaman, which is crazy.

[Jason Momoa]

Which is crazy.

[Theo Von]

That's crazy.

[Jason Momoa]

It is. And I've always wanted to. My, my, My family's very much some of the last living legends of surfing or of watermelon. Is like. My great uncle is Buffalo Kiolana.

[Theo Von]

Bring him up, see if we can get a gander at him.

[Jason Momoa]

Buffalo Kiolana. And Brian Kiolana is an amazing waterman too. Who's my. He's my cousin and Rusty's a four time world champion. So I just come from a very. The Kiolanas.

[Theo Von]

Oh, wow.

[Jason Momoa]

That's Uncle Buff.

[Theo Von]

Hell yeah, dude.

[Jason Momoa]

Beautiful wine, man. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. I think I've seen him on the pictures of the bronzer at the tanning salon as well. I think. I'll just say. I'll just say this. They're using his name, image and likeness over there. Okay. It's suntan city, I'll say that. Dude, that's awesome.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. I always wanted to. Yeah. Be with him, but that's. That's kind of. That's the family.

[Theo Von]

And he still lives over there.

[Jason Momoa]

He does, yeah.

[Theo Von]

Wow. Oh, that's Beautiful, man. Yeah. I just want to. Do Hawaiians feel like it. It seems to me like Hawaiians always feel like a responsibility to uphold their culture kind of. Or that they're Hawaiian. Like, they. Like. There just seems to be, like, a certain, like, level of respect that they carry about themselves with that.

[Jason Momoa]

I think that's true. I think there's a lot of things that have happened to our. To our people that have. It's been very challenging, and what's happened and. And. And getting our identity back, getting our culture back in our language back. So there's. I'm sure there's a lot of. There's a lot of things. Yeah, it's a lot of. A lot of terror and trauma that's happened to the Hawaiian islands.

[Theo Von]

Dang.

[Jason Momoa]

There's a lot.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. I think when you have something beautiful, people want it, you know?

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. Yeah, Absolutely.

[Theo Von]

It's so nice over there, dude. I even. Dude, I remember one time I was drowning over there, and I remember being like, where else am I going to drown? Like, it was so nice. I remember looking back at the shoreline. Literally, I was snorkeling, and I wasn't doing well. I was losing. And I remember looking back at the shoreline, and I thought I was gonna drown, and I was like, what, dude? Where else you gonna drown? You know, you're gonna drown in a Hampton in pool somewhere like, you know, outside of Jacksonville or something? No, dude, this is where you do it, you know? And so there was almost this crazy moment of peace with just how beautiful it was there, you know? It's a really special place.

[Jason Momoa]

Where were you at when you're drowning, man?

[Theo Von]

I was off of. I was in Maui. I don't know.

[Jason Momoa]

Was there waves? Is it just because of deep water?

[Theo Von]

There were ways, but it was, like.

[Jason Momoa]

Just got a little too carried away. And you got out maybe.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, I went snorkeling, and it was by myself and. Bad idea, huh?

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, it's bad to do anything.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Go in the water and do that by yourself.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. And that's what I realized. It was. It was. It was kind of fun. And I remember I got out there a little bit, and I was like, oh, man. And then the. And then I would see the fish, but then the water would go down, and then I would just be, like. Almost like. Like trying to, like, not get on the coral or whatever. Like, me and. Like that.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

And then we'll go back. It was just, like. So it just. It just got super scary. And that was further and further out, and I started Getting really, really spooked.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, well, there's just different rips, too.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I caught. I caught a bad rep, I think.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. Every surfer, you know, everyone drowns.

[Theo Von]

Have you ever been into drowning before out there?

[Jason Momoa]

Very much so.

[Theo Von]

No way.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, I've drowned. And it's.

[Theo Von]

It's.

[Jason Momoa]

I mean, it's a beautiful teacher, man. The oceans of. I mean, she's ultimate teacher. So it sucks. Drowning sucks.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

No way about it. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. All right.

[Jason Momoa]

You just see your slow death. It's sucks. Everything flashes in and you can't move your arms anymore, and you're going down and you can't breathe. That's when I. I used to smoke a lot. I smoke cigars still, but it took me a while to get back to it. But I. I used to smell like two packs a day. I was pretty.

[Theo Von]

What?

[Jason Momoa]

Just love, love, love, like, roll up and I tried to slow down. I'd be like, roll a pouch, and then I'd burn a pouch in a day. Just.

[Theo Von]

Just rolling them yourself.

[Jason Momoa]

Just loves tobacco and.

[Theo Von]

Damn. I can't believe. I believe I was a damn smoker. That's inspiring, actually. Dude, you can do anything, people.

[Jason Momoa]

And that was the hard one to quit. I mean, that's. But it's like. I think smoking was. I couldn't stop for my. You know, for my family. And then when I drowned, you know, someone took my breath. I came out of that water, and that thing died. And, I mean, I tried really hard to stop many times, and I came out, and if I try to smoke, I'd vomit. Like, it might. That part of me just died because it took my breath and I had to go through it. And then the reason I didn't. I got saved is I actually hit the outer reef because I was over a half mile offshore. It's just. There's two reefs. It's. I was on the outer reef of Maui, and it was doing, you know, some. Some coast paddling, and I hit the. I hit the reef, and it just touched my toe and. And I just bubbled down, grabbed the reef and just jumped up and then hit another wave. And I just held onto the reef and waited. I was out there for a while.

[Theo Von]

Dang. Who rescued you?

[Jason Momoa]

I was with Laird. I was out surfing with Laird, and I saw him.

[Theo Von]

Went to the Whole Foods.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, it sounds on point, on brand.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

But. Yeah, and Dave Kalama and my friend Joe Flanagan. Yeah, but it was. My leash snapped, and I was stuck out in the middle of the ocean, so. And it Was just very windy. And took the board and it was gone, so.

[Theo Von]

And smoking was done for you.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. Never, never, never smoked again.

[Theo Von]

Damn.

[Jason Momoa]

Look at you guys over here. Just type quick and get it up. Boom, boom, boom.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, I. I was looking at your new film. It's called the Wrecking Crew.

[Jason Momoa]

I'm excited for you to see it. It's funny.

[Theo Von]

I saw it.

[Jason Momoa]

Oh, you did?

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Oh, thank you.

[Theo Von]

I've seen it. Dude, I know the premiere was last night, so sorry I missed that, but. No, I saw it on my computer. They sent me a screener of it. Yeah, dude, it's great. And it's so beautiful. Juice. It's so nice to be able to. This. You feel like you're in Hawaii for a while.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, you know, it's just the movies we grew up with, right? Lethal weapon, 48 hour, all these things. Buddy cop movies.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

I did a TV show with David Batista. He played my brother. And C on Apple.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah. And he plays your brother in this. Gone. Sorry.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. Yeah. And we just were really Got really close, and it's like, you know, in this business, when you meet somebody really, like, you're like, oh, we should. In the next one, it'd be fun to do a comedy instead of covered in blood and us beating each other. And it was so we. I had this. This pitch to him, and I had. Now it's been for two decades. One of the first things I ever wrote is a pitch packet and told him. And the next day he just posted it and put it out there and went viral.

[Theo Von]

And what about you guys doing it together?

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, and then attached David Leach to it and like. And basically, like, this is what we're doing. Do you like it? And everyone freaked out. And my agents call me going, like, what are we doing? And like, the next morning, I'm like, dave. I didn't even know that Dave would do that. And Dave just, like, just did it, going like, yeah, me and you were doing, you know, twins. You know, I mean, it's just. They just put it out there.

[Theo Von]

And fraternal twins, too.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

And people are like, I don't know.

[Jason Momoa]

I don't know.

[Theo Von]

People are like, this is like, before and after. Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

And so anyways, in our. And our showrunner, Jonathan Tropper ended up writing it. And, yeah, it's just. It's just a fun movie that. Where we want to. I want to do laugh a little more, and it'll make you, you know, make you cry. Working out through family trauma, you know, that kind of Stuff.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

It's never too.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, yeah. There's some sweet stuff in it. It's the. The action is really great. I loved it. I mean, it's just. It's a nice, easy. It's an easy movie to watch, and it's just super enjoyable. And it's a beautifully shot. It's just like. And it's just. In Hawaii, you're just like, oh, if you can't afford to take your wife to Hawaii, take her to see this movie.

[Jason Momoa]

That's the best pitch. She spent too much money this weekend. Can't quite take her on vacation. The Wrecking Crew. You're welcome. Look, Jason. Moa. Thanks, bro.

[Theo Von]

Just put a little cocoa butter on her arms and take her to see the Wreck Crew. It's this. Tell her it's the same thing. Okay. You got to tell her it's the same thing, man. Was there ever a movie role where you liked it kind of so much or the environment that you were at, you liked so much that you're like, I wish I could stay here. I wish this was my life, kind of.

[Jason Momoa]

That's interesting question. Where you just want to stay in that time period in. In that place?

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Or even as that person, even.

[Jason Momoa]

I don't think I've. You know, I did this show, Chief of War, that came out last year, and I think it was really cool because it's all about.

[Theo Von]

Is it on Apple tv?

[Jason Momoa]

It's all about Hawaii. Yeah. It's like when they're uniting the kingdoms. But it would have been really beautiful to be in Hawaii before the white man arrived and just kind of see that time and place and, you know, see what our people are like, our ancestors. It was so special to make that show. And because, you know, you grow up in Iowa and you watch, like, Last of the Mohicans and then Braveheart, and you see all these things like, oh, I would love to see my culture. You watch it. I love samurai movies or Native American movies. And all we had was paintings. You know, my grandparents, they've never seen a movie with us wearing all the regalia, like, and going into the big battles with no metal. So it's fish. I mean, it's just brutal battles. The UFC to the next level.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Before they had, like, a shark teeth.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. Like, you're ripping each other apart. So just imagining that or seeing a movie on that scale. It took me a long time to make that. That show because, you know.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah, that's beautiful. And also, as a gay Mardi Gras vibe as well. I'll say that. But that's outside and that's just a joke. I think it's very beautiful of these that you get to even envision something like this. That's crazy, dude.

[Jason Momoa]

Oh, man.

[Theo Von]

It's crazy to even get to see moments like that. Like even just like on a movie set or something like that. It must be so bizarre to see moments like that where you've seen this.

[Jason Momoa]

You should see like just the trailers or something, you know, when you, you know, we have some spare time. It's. It's pretty. It's pretty wild. The. The fight scenes in this are pretty wild.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. That's amazing.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. Anyway, so that was a. That was the first thing I ever created. So I was co creator and produced it, co wrote it and directed, like the finale and started it. So that was like my big. That's my. That's my baby letter. Yeah, it's my baby to my people, so.

[Theo Von]

Oh, that's beautiful, dude. And was it. Was it something. Was that special to your dad or special to, like, some of your friends and family from home?

[Jason Momoa]

I think everyone, because you have to. All the people I was. When I was 19, I hired on Baywatch to, like, makeup artists to craft services to your drivers. They knew me when I was 19. I'm coming back at 45 at the time, 44. And coming back and making something, like doing Baywatch was just kind of. And then coming back and doing something that's about our people. Yeah, that was a real big honor, man. For sure. It's like. I mean, that's my ultimate goal. I'm kind of done now.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

I'm just going to do fun. Fun. And I want to do comedy. Like, we're going to do Minecraft with Jack Black again.

[Theo Von]

Oh, nice.

[Jason Momoa]

Excited to do that. Thanks, buddy. Sorry about that.

[Theo Von]

You're good, man. When you were doing that show, did you go to parts of the island and learn stuff about Hawaii that you didn't know before?

[Jason Momoa]

Yes, yes. But also, like, got to go and just scout and go to places I've never been, meet uncles and aunties and people who are just know so much about our culture. Like, we had to. Yes. Had to learn, you know, we had to do it. We did it in Alo, Hawaii.

[Theo Von]

So you did it in. Where we.

[Jason Momoa]

Alola, Hawaii. So we did it in our. In our. In our native language.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Tongue. So all the other characters in here, I'd say half of the cast, it's all Polynesia. So you got to understand, like, there's. There's There's Maori, New Zealand. There's Samoan. There's. There's Tongan. There's. There might have been some teaching, but, like, all of us. And Kanaka Maori, which is us all these are people who are different, their own languages. They had to learn this ancient language. So, like, everyone in there doing that is, like. It's hard. It was the hardest for me, but I thought it would have been a lot easier, but it was very challenging for me.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, The Tongans are tough, huh?

[Jason Momoa]

Simones and Tongas aren't. Yeah, they're all tough.

[Theo Von]

Who's the toughest one, though?

[Jason Momoa]

I mean, I. I wouldn't with the Tongan.

[Theo Von]

Bring up a Tongan.

[Jason Momoa]

I wouldn't with a Simone. Like, I'm good.

[Theo Von]

Pull up a pair of Tongans. I heard you should never have just one.

[Jason Momoa]

I mean, look at that guy over there. The. I mean. Yeah, there you go. Click on that one. That guy on the right.

[Theo Von]

Oh, my God. That guy is doing something different, huh?

[Jason Momoa]

You know what? We're all aloha. So it's. It's nice. We don't have to. I don't have to get in the fight with the Tongan.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, no, I'm never gonna.

[Jason Momoa]

But that's why Polynesians in general, man, they're just like. Oh, it's such a different breed, dude.

[Theo Von]

You know who I like? Filipinos. They're kind of like the comfortable Polynesians, you know?

[Jason Momoa]

There you go. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

And they're the smiling people, you know?

[Jason Momoa]

They are.

[Theo Von]

And they're the last people that most people see before they die, because a lot of them work in hospice care, which is crazy when you think about that. Imagine you're laying there, and you open up a little, and it's just some Filipinos, dude, And they're just singing something nice to you.

[Jason Momoa]

I mean, it sounds nice.

[Theo Von]

That's a portable Hawaii, dude.

[Jason Momoa]

I just hope my kids are there and they're looking after me, but I'm gonna put that on them. You put me in a home, I'm gonna haunt your ass. Your ass. You put me in a home, dude, I'll have my fans break me out.

[Theo Von]

You think he'd be a good ghost.

[Jason Momoa]

Though, dude, there's another script right there. Me and you.

[Theo Von]

Old.

[Jason Momoa]

We'll just get all. Do all the old makeup.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. Just us and our dying ages in a nursing home.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Our fans break us out, and they break aside. And then what?

[Jason Momoa]

I don't know. Yeah, we go to a Comic Con for, like, the. For the old time. Days and you interview them all.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

We do like the Hangover. We relive all the good times.

[Theo Von]

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[Jason Momoa]

Shut up.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, we wrote it, funded it, everything.

[Jason Momoa]

I love David Spade.

[Theo Von]

Oh, he's the best dude. Yeah, so I'm excited about that.

[Jason Momoa]

Tommy boy. One of my favorites.

[Theo Von]

Oh, that was one of the best ever. Was there.

[Jason Momoa]

That's just an old time buddy or you just were like.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, he and I became friends like four years ago, five years ago, and we became really close friends. And then we, we started. We had kind of an idea and when he started writing and it took like a year and then we decided to just self fund it and it's like a $4 million budget, I think. And then we got. I think we got one investor and. Yeah, and we made it. We shot in like 23 days.

[Jason Momoa]

Wonderful. What's this called?

[Theo Von]

It was exciting. It's called Busboys. It's about two guys who aren't doing that good and one of them loses his girlfriend to a waiter at a restaurant. And so we figure if we can become waiters, then everything will be great.

[Jason Momoa]

That's why you're so good at being a bus boy. You talking about like what we were talking about, like, oh, I don't know. Bus boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Theo Von]

I channeled. This wasn't. Yeah, people like, this is just whimsical. What are you guys doing now that this is in me, you feel me? So, yeah, I definitely channeled that. And David was a busboy, too, in Arizona as well when he was growing up.

[Jason Momoa]

They wouldn't make me a waiter. That was my last job. Yeah. I was bus boy at two places.

[Theo Von]

I could see that.

[Jason Momoa]

I think they wouldn't let me. They were. They're trying to hold me down.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Dude, there's a glass ceiling.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. I never made waiter.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, it's everywhere.

[Jason Momoa]

Fuck waiters. Bus boys are dope, dude. Bus boys are dope.

[Theo Von]

Bus boys are dope.

[Jason Momoa]

They're always the coolest. They're gonna have the drugs. They're gonna have all. They're gonna know where the shit's at.

[Theo Von]

They're gonna have the drugs.

[Jason Momoa]

They're gonna have the brain waitresses, you know, I mean, like, bus boys are dope.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Who can get extra button with the dishwasher, like, you know? I mean.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Who's got extra butter? The bus boys do, for sure.

[Jason Momoa]

I love salt and pepper. Guess who's got that.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Let's go see your waiter do that now. They're all making more money than you.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. They're off counting. They're usually counting their money. Sharing their tips is what they're not me. That's what they're doing, dude. And who's got the extra salt that.

[Jason Momoa]

You know what? I'm gonna tip my waitress less and I'm gonna slip my bus boy more. I haven't been doing that. I said, where's the bus boy at? I'm gonna throw him. I'm gonna throw the homies or hometz. Some loot started at the bottom.

[Theo Von]

It's all happened because of Reagan, because of trickle down economics. Who started trickle down economics? Bring that up. It was Reagan, wasn't it? Give it to the waiters. They'll give it to the bus boys. That's not helping. I was just at the nurses strike. The largest nurses strike in New York City history is going on right now.

[Jason Momoa]

Right now.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. And I just came from it a little while ago, and it was awesome. I like strikes because it's like being in a parade kind of. Because I'm from. Because I'm from New Orleans. So it's like, you're definitely partying. That a band out there? Yeah. But it's the largest nurses strike that's ever happened in New York City. It's going on right now.

[Jason Momoa]

Oh, my goodness.

[Theo Von]

See if you can play that real. There you go. Play it right there.

[Jason Momoa]

They're from New Orleans.

[Theo Von]

The band was pretty good. They played. Actually. They did Abbey Road. They did a whole album, really, which I thought was impressive. Dude. Even that one where it's like, bang, bang, Maxwell Silver Hammer Came Down upon his head. Yeah, they even played that one. And they only had three instruments, but, yeah, I loved it. I really enjoyed that. My sister's a nurse, so I was like, oh, this is going on, dude. I'm out there now. Did I think I would meet some hot nurses? Yeah, but a lot of them are men these days, which doesn't mean they can't be hot. But, you know, I had a different bedside manner in mind, you know. So, anyway, moving on. Jason, you pervert. So, yeah. Do you get to point in your career, because it is interesting to hear you say where you feel like you have, like, some personal achievement or some personal success or something, where you kind of feel like, okay, I'm okay, You know? Does that make any sense to you? Kind of. Because we're all trying to cl. Like, we're all trying to, like, everyone's trying to feel like, you know, we all want to feel some sort of. A lot of people want to feel some sort of success. Right. I mean, I noticed in my own life, what. What makes me feel like, okay, I'm. I'm okay for me, you know?

[Jason Momoa]

Oh, I mean, it's a. It's a very calm. It's a complex. I mean, there's many things I'm going through, and maybe that's just my age or like, you know, I've been, like you were saying, trying to accomplish. Get to a certain place and just because you. Just. Because even in those. In those worst times and, like, maybe not doing the things I really, truly want to be doing, but I'm doing it to put food on the table. And then I get to the place where I'm actually like, wow, I'm producing, writing, doing all these things, and this is my dream come true. Why am I. Why was I happier when I was in the fucking hole? Why was I happier back then? Is it just because it's nostalgic? Is it. I mean, why was it. Because I'm still hunting, I'm hungry. I mean, I got to this place where I considered, like, well, I don't have any more per se dreams as an actor. Like, I never thought I'd get this far in the first place. You know what I mean? The biggest dream to me was, like, make a TV show or movie for my people. Make a real, true, authentic Hawaiian story. Like, I Did that and, and the comic book I always read when I was a kid. Well, I'm playing him.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

And then you're like the video game that I loved. I'm playing him too. And it's like all these things are great and then sometimes you're you, it's. But you're not. Why do you not feel.

[Theo Von]

Does that happen, you think, even like in career, like you had such a great career. Does it happen even in careers like yours? Like, do you think that's just a human thing? I guess. I guess it's just a human thing. Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. But I just like, I just try to have gratitude in all of it, man. Because, you know, I have so many friends that are maybe could be ill, sick, dying and just. It's so. I mean, I'm kind of the kind of person, like pretty high energy and I'm really, really generally happy. Like I'm like Christmas morning, every morning, I'm pretty happy. I don't need coffee. I'm jazzed.

[Theo Von]

Dang.

[Jason Momoa]

And so I love, I love morning. I love being up and I, I don't necessarily sleep that much, so I'll probably die earlier. Yeah. But my days are filled.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. They're gonna be filled with freaking Filipinos as well, dude. That's for sure. If this is the rate you're gonna.

[Jason Momoa]

But I just, I. I can't sit still. And I, I think if I don't have those things, I was pretty self destructive if I wasn't creating and constantly doing stuff. So I think that's what gives me. Like, I don't necessarily think there's a measure by. Oh, because I'm in this movie or this and this and that. I'm actually like. There's these little smaller things that I love doing and staying busy. Yeah. But it's like the things I really truly love. Like I'm an environmentalist at heart, so there's, you know, I work as much as I can with different just it's all the things that. The little small things that probably no one gives a shit about that I give about. And it's like trying to do those things that I really love. And it's not about being necessarily seen, but it's trying to help in certain things that I love and care about.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Do you think like a lot of that stuff comes back to you more like once you've kind of gotten to a certain level or once you kind of. Because life just kind of gets busy. Like in your 30s and 40s. Life gets busy. Right. And especially if you have a busy career like yours or a career, we have to travel a lot, and it's. And it varies from place to place, location to location. I find that it, like, it just gets. It gets hard to focus on some of the smaller things that are more important to me sometimes. Yeah. So is it easier. Do you feel like it's easier now in your career to be able to have more time for those types of things?

[Jason Momoa]

I don't have any time for those things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a hard time saying no, so I say yes to everything. And I'm like, I have. I work a lot, and so if someone comes in and I'm fully loaded, I'm like, yeah, I can't not. Not say yes. And so I don't know. Here's the thing. I'm doing everything I love to do.

[Theo Von]

Right.

[Jason Momoa]

So I don't ever think of it as work. I'm just doing things I love to do. And so that's maybe the biggest honor of it all. And I think. I mean, that's why I want my kids now. They look at me, they like, oh, my dad does what he loves to do, which maybe I didn't want earlier in my. In my life. It was just like, make sure I can put. It was very worrisome earlier because, like, I said, I wasn't on the best shows.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Yeah. It's.

[Jason Momoa]

More people are like, oh, why don't you go do that movie? Or that one? I'm like, I didn't have an agent. I couldn't get called. Like, I couldn't get those things. And so now I'm in a good place, but I'm like, oh, I'm making up for lost time. I'm like, there's so many things I want to do in this life. And so it's a bit crammed in, but I'm. I'm in. I've. I'm. I'm kind of doing everything I love.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

I wouldn't say I'm taking care of myself the best, but I'm like, that's. Something's got to give. I'm like, that's why I'm this big. Burn this down, you know?

[Theo Von]

I mean, well, if it's not. If there's Filipinos.

[Jason Momoa]

Here we go.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, we got go, dude. Fire up the feely truck, huh? Back them up, dude. Let him in the room.

[Jason Momoa]

Well, what about you? I mean, like, you're just blown up, and, like, in your time, I mean, how does it feel to you? Do you.

[Theo Von]

I think this Year I started. Just recently started thinking, having a little bit more, like, okay, I think everything will be okay. Like, I'll be able to eat and have a roof over my head for the rest of my life. So I have a little bit more semblance of, like, okay, what does things look like for, like, those around me? What are some other things that I can put my time into? Like, I've been touring mostly for probably about 17 years, for probably half the weeks, you know, and so this year, I don't have any tour dates. And so it's nice to, like, be like, oh, what does this look like? Like, I had, like, two months with no. Three months with no tour dates, and I was like, this is crazy.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

So there's still, like, a lot of podcasting, and there's still a ton of work to. To do with this, but it's not like I have to travel as much. So sometimes for the first time, it feels like my spirit even can be in, like, one place where I can, like, gather its thoughts, you know, I feel like I've just been playing hide and go seek with myself for a long time, just even geographically. So having some more. Just having some more, like, solace and being in one spot is really kind of helped me just to start to get a look around me.

[Jason Momoa]

Do you go stir crazy? Because we're such gypsy. We have to. You know, our careers are a little bit.

[Theo Von]

But sometimes that's a trap for me.

[Jason Momoa]

I know, but you're like, I need. I'm like, oh, my God, I would love to get some rest. And you get, like, rest for a solid week. And you're like, I got to get the fuck out of here.

[Theo Von]

I got to get the fuck out of this rest.

[Jason Momoa]

Like, my ass hurts, my back hurts.

[Theo Von]

And you're in a rest area along the interstate. You're like, this is insane.

[Jason Momoa]

Like, you get that where you're like, oh, man, I got. I got to get out.

[Theo Von]

Oh, for sure. But I think sometimes I got to be careful because that's a trap, man. That's just the devil trying to get me back.

[Jason Momoa]

Do you work with that in sobriety? Like, is that. It's like, a thing? Do you have to.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, I go to a. I go to a meetings and I go to that stuff. It's been like, you know, I've been in and out of sobriety for 10 years, probably mostly in. And so that's been good. So, yeah, I like it just because otherwise. Yeah, I just can't hand. Like, I'll do too Much of the. Of the cocaine, to be honest. But, you know, I'll. I'll do too much of it. And so I just don't want to be. Just don't. I don't want to be around it, you know, I'll even walk and just look straight at the ground and see if anybody's dropped it. Sometimes outside, I'll run right into something. What was that? Not an eight ball, I'll tell you that. I just peeped this whole block. But, yeah, man, dude, I'll tell you this crazy story. So one time, my friend and I. And I didn't even know anything about drugs. My friend and I are going to my apartment. He was staying in town. He was staying in town. He's getting out of the taxi. He dropped a little thing of cocaine into the taxi. When I'm getting out, I just see it on the thing. I pick it up and put it in my pocket. So he didn't tell me that he had ever done cocaine and he'd been doing it, but he didn't tell me, right? And I just thought he was kind of itchy or whatever, you know, because it was spring. And so we go in my apartment. He's like, hey, man, will you help me look for something? I'm like, yeah, what is it? And he, like, wouldn't tell me what it was. And I'm like, that doesn't make any sense. But, yeah, I'll help you, you know? So me and him are walking around looking for something that I don't know what it is, okay? And then I kept sneaking off and doing the cocaine, right? So, dude, now at one point, he gave up and went to sleep. I'm walking around my apartment looking everywhere for something, and it was the. It was the drugs I was doing. Absolute insanity, dude.

[Jason Momoa]

Absolute insanity, bro.

[Theo Von]

So, yeah, I mean, you just. People can get lost out there, but.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, dude, do you ever read that Miles Davis. You ever read Miles Davis's biography? There's this great part where he was up in Harlem, and, you know, at the time, he's at the peak of his career. He had this Lamborghini. Let's just say it's like, bright yellow. It snows out, it's snowing outside. And he comes up to this spot, and he's in Harlem, gets out, goes in, and he's coming back out. And he gets back in the car and he's did. Got some drugs, comes back out, gets in the car, looks down, and he's like. He like, drugs are all. The coke is all over the floor, and he's freaking out. And then he thinks he's gonna get busted by the cops. So he just gets out, goes back in, hides in his closet, waits it out for a couple hours, sweating it out. And he's on the drugs.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Comes back out hours later, car's still there, because they know it's Miles Davis. Opened up door, and all the drugs are gone. And he, like, clicks and he's like. It was snow on his shoes.

[Theo Von]

Oh.

[Jason Momoa]

When he got in and, like, totally lost his mind. Like, he spotty spilled all the. I was like, that's a good time.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

That was a pro story.

[Theo Von]

That's a good time. Yeah. And he didn't drive, which is the best part.

[Jason Momoa]

That's the best part. Good job, Miles.

[Theo Von]

October 21st, 1972. Miles Davis, never mind wrecked his coked, filled Mayura and broke both of his legs. So he took it for one lap. Jim Glickenhaus was the first person on scene. Miles in the hospital for a long time and didn't play for almost a year. Dang. That'll make you quit doing drugs right there. That'll make you quit smoking, dude. That's his. That's his drowning near the reef right there. Dang. If my. Dude. But if my legs were broken, I could still do cocaine, I think. And I hate to say that, and don't say that to your kids, but what's. So now you have children?

[Jason Momoa]

I've had them, man.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Did you collect some along the way, or did. I mean that? But did you, like. Did you have a family that you had planned, or was it just kind of, like. Did you sort of have children?

[Jason Momoa]

No. Yeah. No, I was. I was married and had kids. Yep.

[Theo Von]

Oh, nice, man. Was it cool being a father? Like, was that, like, a scary thing for you? Like, it's actually funny.

[Jason Momoa]

He's. He's just got into.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah, Beautiful kids.

[Jason Momoa]

He just got into acting. He's. I mean, they've been acting and doing. Wolf is his place. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Oh, that's a cool name.

[Jason Momoa]

Nicola Wolf. But he's. He's gonna be in Dune with me.

[Theo Von]

Dune.

[Jason Momoa]

He's. Yeah, He's Leto Junior.

[Theo Von]

Dang.

[Jason Momoa]

So he auditioned on his own and got it and killed.

[Theo Von]

Was he geeked?

[Jason Momoa]

I mean, he. Those guys grew up watching me, you know, he was sitting on Affleck's lap, and she's sitting with Gal, and, you know, we're doing Justice League. They were like. Like 6 and 8. Wow. I'm doing Justice League. They grew up on set with Me. So they just.

[Theo Von]

So it's so much like, just.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. I mean, he was in a Batman outfit is. For at least five years. Like, the kid is. Loves all that and love Dune. And so, yeah, my babies are. Lola's a singer, so she wants to continue in music. And then Wolf wants to do acting, so. Which I was very. Just such a gnarly business.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

I'm like, go be a doctor. Use your brain.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, and go pay these nurses, Doc. Actually, it's the hospitals that aren't paying them, but, yeah, dude, that's got to be interesting if your kid wants to go down that road, but then you'll have a lot of experience, too, and you'll be there to help him be supportive in that way.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, yeah.

[Theo Von]

He's young, so he can try it out.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Guide him. You got kids?

[Theo Von]

No, I don't have any kids yet. I want to get some kids. I want to. Sorry. I would like to have children. I'm not trying to get some kids. No, I want all kids to be free. If they're not. If I don't know them. Oh, man, I don't want to know. That's my new. That's my rule. If I don't know kids, I don't want to know them. You know, people like, hey, I want you to see my kids. I'm like, no, I don't want to meet your kids. Dude, people are perverts, man. You know, these politicians. Anyway, what else are we talking about?

[Jason Momoa]

You got a special lady you're with right now?

[Theo Von]

No, I don't.

[Jason Momoa]

That's another bird right now, too.

[Theo Von]

What's that?

[Jason Momoa]

Your free bird?

[Theo Von]

Free bird. Yeah. But I would like to have. I would like to have a spouse. I would like to have a woman spouse, too. And I would like to. Yeah, I. I would like to have that, man. So it'll happen. It's just like, you know, I just got. I think for 1, 2. I've just been going all the time. It was like. I'd be like. I'd be like, dating somebody, and I'd be out of town for a while, and you come back and you're like, oh, I forgot about this. Not in a bad way. It's just like my brain was somewhere else else. It's hard for me to focus on stuff sometimes. So I think I just feel like more of that semblance of, like, okay, now this maybe could be more manageable, but I got to change some of my own ways and stuff like that a little bit too And. And. And be more purposeful. I think about just like, just different prayer and different things like that overall, you know.

[Jason Momoa]

So you come from a big family. You got brothers, sisters?

[Theo Von]

Yeah, I got three siblings, and one of them is married.

[Jason Momoa]

You're. You're a baby.

[Theo Von]

I'm the middle one of the middle kids. Two boys and two girls.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

So we got a good little groove group.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

But. Yeah, nobody in my family can swim that good, though. We're not. Yeah, land people.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

If you need us, we'll be on the land, you know, that's our motto, dude. That's our family motto. I'm gonna get a tattooed on my brother.

[Jason Momoa]

When you're in New Orleans, look. What kind of sports are you into?

[Theo Von]

Basketball, dude, Is it true that the. All that they have the team called the Tall Blacks and. Yeah, is that true? The basketball team in New Zealand is called the Tall Black. That's freaking amazing, dude. We got. Yeah, in New Orleans, we have. Well, we have. Some of the players are kind of thick over there, you know, so we got the Round Browns over there. That's our team. No offense, Zion Williamson, but his weight does fluctuate and he's cost our city a lot of money. But. What is this? Yeah, this is. Oh, that's the New Zealand All Blacks. I don't know. This is a bunch of Ben Simmonses. They got maybe one and a half brothers on this team, dude. And this. But, hey, that's awesome, though. Good for them.

[Jason Momoa]

You big basketball fan?

[Theo Von]

I like. College football's probably my favorite.

[Jason Momoa]

College football? Who's your team?

[Theo Von]

I'm a Tennessee and a LSU guy, so those are my squads. What about you?

[Jason Momoa]

I don't do college football that much.

[Theo Von]

You didn't get into. With your size, I'm sure they were like, get out of here.

[Jason Momoa]

How's hockey?

[Theo Von]

Really?

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

You were goalie soccer?

[Jason Momoa]

No. Center?

[Theo Von]

Nah.

[Jason Momoa]

But I love. I love soccer too, man. I was playing, you know, play soccer, but then I was the skateboarder. Yeah. I mean, like, they all want you to get into rest. Yeah. That's weird. That's weird. I have a path.

[Theo Von]

But if you're a surfer, that makes sense.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. No, I just grew up skating. I wasn't always as big. I mean, like, I was, you know, but that's what I was doing when I was little and took that into high school. But I love skateboarding. And then, surprisingly, my main love is rock climbing.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

So I traveled the world rock climbing, and that was kind of my thing.

[Theo Von]

And. Do you ever go rock climbing? With Sharma. Jared Leto?

[Jason Momoa]

No. No. Well, I mean, I've seen him out when we've been climbing.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, he loves it.

[Jason Momoa]

He does. He climbs a lot with Hond.

[Theo Von]

Oh, Alex Honnold? Yeah. Oh, cool.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, he climbs a lot with him. They do like El Cap and all kind of stuff together.

[Theo Von]

He took me to a party here one time. I just remembered in New York and everybody was kind of dressed like they look like different birds and stuff. It was pretty crazy. Yeah. And there was no air conditioning in the place. It was like fancy. It was. It was bizarre. But it was what you'd expect out of him. Yeah. That's people out on the rock right there. Yeah. Rock climbing is pretty amazing, isn't it?

[Jason Momoa]

I love it.

[Theo Von]

What makes you love it so much?

[Jason Momoa]

Well, it's something I did when I was little at the first moment, like my mom took me climbing in South Dakota and I just. The moment when I touched a rock and just moved on and it just felt like. Like I'm probably better at climbing than I am at walking. Like, it's just my body just feels. It's just something that you connect with that you really enjoy.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

But I love just the fear and the problem solving and like the fear of it all because, like we'll do like deep water soloing now and my orca and you like climb up and then you fall down in the water. But it's just like the challenge of like. I love. I love climbing stuff. When I was a kid, it's like, how do you not. Like, I love climbing trees, I love just climbing. So.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

I don't know. I'm a fucking gorilla. I don't have to say.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Being in the dirt and I just enjoy taking my kids. My kids do it and it just keeps us out in nature, something to do. I guess it'd be like fishing or hunting, like for other people, but like being in nature and.

[Theo Von]

Oh yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

And going to do adventures and. And you know, setting out to do something and accomplishing it. And the other thing too is I think I'm very, very much. And I'm not diagnose adhd, but I'm just. I'm. There's a lot of things going on and I feel like when I ride motorcycles and I go rock climbing, it's just like you can't do anything else but be there. So that's just like a little bit. My therapy or meditation is like that's when everything just gets real clean and clear.

[Theo Von]

Makes you focus in. Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

What you get, you know. Everyone gets high on that or loves that. You know, I mean when you can really. Mind, body, spirit connects and you.

[Theo Von]

Oh yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Something. That's what you, you know.

[Theo Von]

Oh yeah. When you're zipping down on a freaking motorcycle, you can't. Yeah. It's hard to be like, I gotta do that email or whatever, which is like everyone.

[Jason Momoa]

You're in a car, you're like, you know, doing your makeup. You're eating food, you're talking to someone. You're not paying attention to where you're riding motorcycle. It's. You're. You're gonna die. If you, if you're out, if you're doing your makeup while you're riding your motorcycle, you're.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

It's not easy.

[Theo Von]

Unless they come out with those self driving motorcycles, which I read about. That's gonna be. I'm like, what are we doing now that driving motorcycles? Yeah. That's not what we need.

[Jason Momoa]

No.

[Theo Von]

A lot of organ donors are motorcyclists. And I mean to say that out loud to you, but you knew it. A lot of them.

[Jason Momoa]

Are you an organ donor?

[Theo Von]

A lot of them are, yeah. You keeping them?

[Jason Momoa]

No, no. Yeah. I don't know if anyone wants them pickled. I'm actually waiting for this AI and yeah. To come around to go like, yo, two new kidneys, livers and kidneys right here. That's what I need, bro.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah. I want a fresh sack of lungs. Boy, them inner tits. Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

And then just nail them again. 30 more years just bashing these up. Yeah, dude, toughen up, bro.

[Theo Von]

That'd be crazy. You're like 90.

[Jason Momoa]

Swap them out.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, like, yeah, I'm 95, but I got a seven year old liver. Yeah, you're just partying on that hammer.

[Jason Momoa]

Drunk on one bud light, fucking sick.

[Theo Von]

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[Jason Momoa]

Well we do a lot of action and when generally there's there's not a lot of big guys that are good actors and do action. It's kind of a rare thing to have all of them. And I think Dave is a phenomenal actor and, and I really wanted to fight him and see and I was like dude, I would love to go toe to toe with him and it's just kind of like yeah, I respect him and I and, and then when we met we're very different, but, like, super. You know, there's no ego. There's no. Like, we're very supportive of each other. We understand the story. Like, it's just a wonderful. When you find an acting partner that you just. You're there for the story instead of, like, your career. You're a lot of guys, a lot of famous dudes can't bleed or can't get hurt. I'm like, fuck, I die in everything. Like, my kids beg me not to die anymore. I'm like, that's how we. That's how you eat. I'm like, you're not going to die again. I'm like, everything. That's how you have your life. So I'm not afraid to do all that kind of stuff and, you know, bleeding. And I think Dave likes to get down and dirty, too, so. But he's just a really great guy. The reason why we want to do it again is because. Just a good working relationship.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, he has. Acting is great.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. I saw him in Blade Runner, and I just thought he was. He was phenomenal, and it was so subtle. He's very. Just, like, the opposite of me. I couldn't be subtle if you tried. Like, it's just.

[Theo Von]

I thought you did a great job in this movie, man.

[Jason Momoa]

Thanks, bud.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Thank you.

[Theo Von]

I don't. It's. I don't know if I even pay attention that. I guess it's like, if you're not paying attention, if you don't. If you're not noticing the acting, then it's great. Right? Isn't that kind of usually the usual kind of. Isn't that usually kind of the thought?

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, yeah. If it's not tripping you up. Yeah. It's great.

[Theo Von]

Do you. Do you feel like it's gotten easier to act over time? Like, do you start to just understand it better? Does it become a little bit more like a muscle? What is that?

[Jason Momoa]

Like, I just think I'm getting. I'm getting off, you know, chances to do it now. Like, I've never even been in a rom com, you know? Like, my first comedy was last year with. With Jack Black doing Minecraft. So, like, you know, it's just now finally catching on that I can do other stuff. Yeah. I'm not just getting my ass kicked and dying all the time.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. You're not just a bouncer who's freaking going to the salon or whatever.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. I think after, like, Game of Thrones, like, people didn't know what to do with me, so it's like, he didn't speak English, so there was like, what the do you do with Drogo? We're like, who are we gonna put. Is that in that rom com? Drogo is. I mean, he's handsome. Like. Like, let's. Let's get that. I don't. I hope he speaks English. Like, he's French. And I mean, like, what are you gonna.

[Theo Von]

So this is hilarious. That's great.

[Jason Momoa]

Have you ever get to spend any time with Jack?

[Theo Von]

I haven't gotten to spend any time with him.

[Jason Momoa]

Oh, man.

[Theo Von]

So funny.

[Jason Momoa]

And no, he's just. Just like the greatest human man. Like, you just would love just being with him. He's so much fun.

[Theo Von]

Oh, that's great.

[Jason Momoa]

And it's just like, he's that all the time. You go. You know, after work, we go eat together and like, it. I just like, like people who. They don't. They don't act one way and then, you know, and then there's someone. There's someone different, you know, Like, I'm just. I wear my heart on my sleeve. This is exactly who I am. That's what you're gonna get.

[Theo Von]

Here we are.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Do you ever get people that confuse you for people a lot? Because I'll let people come up to me sometimes and they think I'm Tony Cavallaro. Do you get people like that? Sometimes, I think. Or even like this. Like, if you walked in downstairs, somebody might think you're Joaquin Phoenix downstairs, because how he did that? Letterman. Remember? Pull up Joaquin Phoenix on Letterman that time.

[Jason Momoa]

What?

[Theo Von]

See if we're close or not. Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Oh, that's pretty much it, bro. There's my twin brother right there. Dude.

[Theo Von]

If you were Joaquin Phoenix today, this whole time, put these on. If you tell me you're walking Phoenix, bro, it's gonna get crazy in here. Oh, wow. Huh?

[Jason Momoa]

I'm blind.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Dude, those are.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, yeah, those are prescription. Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

No, I wear glasses, dude.

[Theo Von]

I wear glasses. Yeah, mine are downstairs. My eyes are going bad.

[Jason Momoa]

I just can't do contacts. Can't put them in, man.

[Theo Von]

But I'm not putting a little thing like that in my eye. Like a little sight.

[Jason Momoa]

Would you ever get the little surgery?

[Theo Von]

The. I don't think I would. I don't want somebody going in my eye. I don't want that while I'm laying there like some pedophile.

[Jason Momoa]

I don't think you look like that guy, but do you know who the. The dancing outlaws.

[Theo Von]

That guy that does that. The Tennessee Two Step guy.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. There he. There you are. That Guy.

[Theo Von]

What's his name? Jessica White, bro.

[Jason Momoa]

Dude, you could totally play Jessica White.

[Theo Von]

You could.

[Jason Momoa]

You, dude, not me.

[Theo Von]

Oh, I thought you were saying you look like him.

[Jason Momoa]

No, man, pull up the one where he's got no beard. That one in the middle, dude. That's you for days. What are you talking about?

[Theo Von]

God. Listen, I said nice things about.

[Jason Momoa]

I know, dude.

[Theo Von]

This guy.

[Jason Momoa]

No, you don't get. Just go White.

[Theo Von]

This guy is a Fucking. Listening to methadone all day, which is a band, but it's only. Yeah, I'm joking.

[Jason Momoa]

Okay. All right. My bad.

[Theo Von]

No, that's okay. Is there any recent. Is there a recent interview with Jessica White or did he pass away?

[Jason Momoa]

He passed away.

[Theo Von]

Damn.

[Jason Momoa]

You should listen to what he talks, but it's probably because you guys sound familiar.

[Theo Von]

That's him.

[Jason Momoa]

No, that don't look like. He looks like Hunter Thompson right there.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. That is not.

[Jason Momoa]

No, that's not.

[Theo Von]

No. Yeah, it says Jessica White. Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Wow. But he's dead now. That's Kid Rock. You ever interviewed Kid Rock?

[Theo Von]

Yeah, he lives in Nashville.

[Jason Momoa]

That'd be easy then.

[Theo Von]

I see him there all the time. He has his neighbors.

[Jason Momoa]

Oh, he does. He's got a club.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, he has a club. And he has a. He has a crazy house there. He built like a replica of the White House up on this hill there. No, it's insane. It's insane. It is a. And he collects a lot of cool stuff. Bob is his real name, but he's. He's a super interesting guy and he's really nice, too. That's his house right there, I think.

[Jason Momoa]

Holy.

[Theo Von]

It's crazy, bro. And it's got a lot of Kid Rock stuff in it. Nobody's a bigger fan of Kid Rock than Kid Rock, dude.

[Jason Momoa]

And I feel like he has he built. Is he put. He's doing new albums?

[Theo Von]

Yeah, he still does stuff. He has a Rock the Country.

[Jason Momoa]

Okay, pull that up.

[Theo Von]

I think it's called Rock the Country. That just came out. A tour. New tour that just came out that Ella Langley's gonna be on. Jason Aldean Williams. Hank Williams. There you go, kid. Rocky Naldine, Blake Shelton. Jelly Roll Creed on the Sunlight. Dude, I could see you play Scott Stapp in, like, a biopic or biopic, whatever they call this.

[Jason Momoa]

You getting me back at that Jessica White. Yeah, I deserved it.

[Theo Von]

I apologize, dude. You know, I used to love Sound Garden, dude.

[Jason Momoa]

Of course. Yeah, man. What a legend, man.

[Theo Von]

I feel. Was that them? But maybe I don't know who they are. These are the eyes of Disarray Is that.

[Jason Momoa]

No, that's.

[Theo Von]

Would you even care? And I'm feeling Pilots, dude. Son of a. Pilots was good, bro.

[Jason Momoa]

What's the worst?

[Theo Von]

What's the first concert you ever went to?

[Jason Momoa]

What the. I was at the Iowa State Fair. What the. Is his name? He does bourbon. One scotch and beer. Jesus Christ. I'm blanking on his name.

[Theo Von]

Trace Atkins, maybe?

[Jason Momoa]

No, no. God damn it.

[Theo Von]

It's okay.

[Jason Momoa]

Bad to the Bone. Yeah. George Thurgood. Yeah. One burn, one scotch, one beer. Iowa State Fair, baby.

[Theo Von]

Dude, how nice is that thing?

[Jason Momoa]

Iowa State Fair.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

It's amazing. I've been in years. Funnel cake. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

But I'm not driving across town for some. For a funnel cake. What? Like. But I guess that one would be the best because you'd have all the animals, you'd have all the crafts.

[Jason Momoa]

Yep.

[Theo Von]

And the big rides.

[Jason Momoa]

I had a good time when I was growing up.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, I guess people did.

[Jason Momoa]

I couldn't. I couldn't walk around there now. I'd be screwed. There's no way.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, you'd have to hide. You have to dress up like something.

[Jason Momoa]

Those days are over, man.

[Theo Von]

But it's your size. You have to disguise yourself as something unique. If you're out in the public, I can make sure.

[Jason Momoa]

There's no way I'm gonna hide.

[Theo Von]

You could hide.

[Jason Momoa]

I can't hide. I mean, I'm in the flannel and a hat. It's about as hiding as it gets.

[Theo Von]

If you got a special outfit.

[Jason Momoa]

I mean. You mean if I go out as, like, Boba Fett or, like. Like. Like the helmet on, like Iron Man? I mean, I could hide if I had a helmet on.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Yeah. If you were like a football helmet or something.

[Jason Momoa]

I. I was in Jordan one time, we were shooting Dune, and I wanted to go see Petra, and I got all wrapped up, and it was great because I got a. To walk through there. There's tons of tourists. And so I did the whole, you know, full wrap and everything's on, but it was hot. And this little bit of my triangles are sticking out, and we're walking through, and this. This girl, just, like, kind of season, she goes. And I'm like. But this thing gets me in trouble more than anything, man, because it.

[Theo Von]

Is that a. Is that like.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, this. This is basically tapped on, and I have one that goes on my head, goes right through there.

[Theo Von]

And how do people earn. Do you earn them or how do you get it?

[Jason Momoa]

It's like a family crest. I think of it like that. It's like the guardian. This is the shark. And this is for protection. Those are the ehe, the spear. It's the mono. The shark. So basically, when I'm in the water and we're snorkeling, the shark knows to go to you because you're white and I'm Hawaiian. So it's like, this is what. This lets them know.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

I gotta get something.

[Jason Momoa]

You just roll with me. I'll be like, I'll point it somewhere.

[Theo Von]

I'll be on your back point. Now the directions.

[Jason Momoa]

You ever see any sharks? You ever seen anything?

[Theo Von]

I went swimming with sharks one time in South Africa. We're in a cage.

[Jason Momoa]

Have I ever seen big great whites?

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Did you see a big gray one?

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah. One came and got. So there were these two round cages off the boat. And since the. The edge of the boats like this and you have two circles. There's a space in between the cages right up against the boat, like, because it's two circles. And one of the trucks got stuck right in there. And he was absolutely going apeshit. And then another one came up and put his snout like in the cage. And I got to touch the top of it, pat him on the head a little bit. Pretty cool.

[Jason Momoa]

Yep.

[Theo Von]

That old Doberman touch I put on him, you know.

[Jason Momoa]

Did you like South Africa?

[Theo Von]

Oh, dude. Is the most beautiful place that I'd been.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

You know. Is there a place you've been that really makes you feel like this is really something special?

[Jason Momoa]

I just got back from Guatemala. I went there with my lady.

[Theo Von]

Oh, nice.

[Jason Momoa]

Guatemala. That was my first time. So we went to like. We got to go see the pyramids, which is like the largest pyramids in the world.

[Theo Von]

Bring them up. My father's from Nicaragua.

[Jason Momoa]

Really? Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Which is neighbors to Guatemala, I think. Is it in Central America?

[Jason Momoa]

Yep.

[Theo Von]

Oh, that thing's nice. I'm surprised you don't live in one of those, because people think you do. Dude.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, Tikal. The one that's there, right? That one pretty. Pretty spectacular. And the one to the left, food culture, just so rich.

[Theo Von]

Wow. How long was yalls trip for Antigua?

[Jason Momoa]

I went to Antigua. Antigua is just like. I've never seen streets like that. We were there for like two weeks. Sorry. Two weeks seeing family. Getting to give the parents and the family.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

See if they like me, you know, the gringos coming in.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah. Huh? Yeah. But you weren't the gringo, though. I was to them. Huh? Yeah. Wow.

[Jason Momoa]

Dude.

[Theo Von]

It's good.

[Jason Momoa]

White blood in me.

[Theo Von]

It's good yeah, that's a good point.

[Jason Momoa]

German blood.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't bring that in.

[Jason Momoa]

The Irish.

[Theo Von]

Don't bring that honky blood around here, whitey. That's the kind of. That I hear all the time.

[Jason Momoa]

But they love me, so, I mean, yeah, I got, I got two thumbs up.

[Theo Von]

Did you get a, like, do you get a written review or had it like on the plane ride home?

[Jason Momoa]

She read their eyes. Yeah. And then. And I could, could. And I could. I could. I could feel the temperature. The. The aunties were cool with it. The nieces and nephews love me. The dad's amazing. I mean, I love her dad. We went to go see him play.

[Theo Von]

He's a musician.

[Jason Momoa]

He's probably one of the biggest Latin. He maybe. No, he's definitely one of the biggest Latin musicians of all time.

[Theo Von]

Really?

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. Ricardo Arjona.

[Theo Von]

Let's bring up a picture of this man.

[Jason Momoa]

He's actually, he's got your father.

[Theo Von]

This might could be your father in law.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, he's. He's doing your stepdad. Time, time, time square. Two nights in a ro.

[Theo Von]

Ricardo.

[Jason Momoa]

Ricardo. Yeah. Is the, is the new. His new tour? Yeah. I mean, skinny.

[Theo Von]

Oh, Ricardo.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

God, I want to be something like that.

[Jason Momoa]

He kind of looks like my own brother, right? A little bit, right?

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah, you can see it. That's what's up.

[Jason Momoa]

If I were Latin.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

But I'm not a Hawaiian. And he's probably the biggest Guatemalan in history.

[Theo Von]

He's very tall.

[Jason Momoa]

He's like six, five.

[Theo Von]

No way. You can't even tell from this photo.

[Jason Momoa]

I know.

[Theo Von]

They should say that on the poster. First of all, they just have a poster that says, hey, come see a six, five Guatemalan.

[Jason Momoa]

And he's. Bro, he's.

[Theo Von]

Dude, I paid 40 bucks to go over and see that.

[Jason Momoa]

He's got two nights in a row at. At New York Times Square. I think he'll be playing Nashville too, bro.

[Theo Von]

Really? Yeah, dude. If he is, I'm gonna. I'll make sure to go and watch.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, but he'd be right.

[Theo Von]

I'll take a Latin. I'll take a Spanish girl out there on a date.

[Jason Momoa]

You're definitely going to meet some Spanish nurses.

[Theo Von]

That's a place to go.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

How. How do you say nurse in Spanish? Bring that up for me, fellas. Oh, see, in fermata. That's what I'm going to say.

[Jason Momoa]

That's where it's at for you. They take care of you. Love you.

[Theo Von]

That's what I'm saying, dude.

[Jason Momoa]

Man.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. And yeah, there Were ages when I was like, yeah, I'm gonna get. Oh, I want to find a. Like, a model or something. And now it's like. And I'm getting older. I'll take a nurse. You've had all the models, you know what I'm saying? I don't know about that, but I just have, like. Yeah, I'll just. You got to think ahead, you know?

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if models are going to take care of you, but nurse. Take care of.

[Theo Von]

You know, a model's not going to take care of you, dude. And she's not going to feed you anything because she doesn't need anything. What are you gonna do, just both sit there and suck on an empty bottle together? And she's lazy anyway. Probably. Anyway, sorry. What about this guitar, dude? I saw you brought this in.

[Jason Momoa]

Well, yeah, because we were both tired. I was gonna take a little nap because I didn't want to suck on your show.

[Theo Von]

I appreciate that, man.

[Jason Momoa]

Yes. I'm probably, like, a solid six right now. I'm normally a tan, but we had the premiere before I came to Theo Vaughn, which is a big accident. So, anyways, I was downstairs, Chelsea Guitars. I found this at 59. It kind of went, like, got a little bit of that watermelon color to it.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, it's beautiful because it's usually cherry, right? Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

And then it just. It fades because of that paint they used back then, but it doesn't have the original pot, so it's kind of cheap. And then, you know, I'll put some. Put some new pickups in it, and it'll be like, back to new.

[Theo Von]

Are you a collector of guitars or.

[Jason Momoa]

I am. I'm a big fan. I got a band we play. We're gonna go play Dubai here on the 28th and look, too. I forgot to show you. Yeah, I was in. I know.

[Theo Von]

I was in Qatar, actually.

[Jason Momoa]

Signed by Chuck Berry. Yeah, they have all their guitars signed on there.

[Theo Von]

Who is it?

[Jason Momoa]

Chuck Berry. The guy that was just up on the.

[Theo Von]

That's on my Chuck Berry dude, yeah. Oh, that's him.

[Jason Momoa]

Say, there's a guitar.

[Theo Von]

Johnny B. Good.

[Jason Momoa]

There you go.

[Theo Von]

He used to carry his guitar in a row so between the tree by the railroad track. I loved him, dude. We used to listen to his tape all the time. I had his cassette tape when I was young.

[Jason Momoa]

Actually, it might be a good idea. My son loves Chuck Berry. I might. Might do him right? He turns 18, maybe I'll give him this guitar.

[Theo Von]

Just let him play it. You keep it you know, he just booked a role in a movie next year. Like, he's doing fine. Okay. He can get his.

[Jason Momoa]

I love language is presence.

[Theo Von]

Now are you?

[Jason Momoa]

I am, yeah.

[Theo Von]

Oh, that's pretty cool.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Oh, I heard that you were working with a water company. Is that.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, I started. I started this company called Mananalo.

[Theo Von]

Mananalo.

[Jason Momoa]

Mananalo started eight years ago. I was on a flight and you know, you're flying over the. On the plane and you see a Coca Cola and aluminum can. You got beer and aluminum can. You got sparkling water, aluminum can. And they give you those little shitty Dasani water bottles with a cap. You know the label. And then there's like three different types of plastic on it that we can't recycle. Just goes into our land and goes into our landfills. And I'm a father. I don't want to see plastic. We don't need single use plastic. Generally I carry my own water bottle. When I go to the airport, you fill it up. Eight years ago, they didn't even make. They didn't even have aluminum for water. So I went to ball people who make and those cans. And I went to the aluminum company. I said, I'm gonna make a water bottle with you. A water that aluminum cans are like, we're not a. Yeah, we're not a. We're not a.

[Theo Von]

This is it.

[Jason Momoa]

A water company. I was like, well, you are now. I'm awful, man. Let's do this. So we. We set out to do it and then we in. We ended up making the first like screw can. It went back on and so we made Monanalo and then it changed. Well, now it's got our. We put our movie on there.

[Theo Von]

Oh, great.

[Jason Momoa]

Put the labels on there. But see how it's got mononolo print on the top? And so once we kind of stopped single use plastic. And now because at the time I went to Dasani and I went to. I went to the blue and the red guy, Coke and Pepsi. And I was like, would you do this? Would you make the aluminum? They're like, doesn't make sense to us because it's easier to do plastic. But anything that's in plastic is just leaching in there. It's just poison, man. You don't want to be drinking out of plastic bottles.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, that's what I think about a lot of times, especially now with people talking about all the bad stuff that's in our food and our water. It's become such like a, you know, such a talking point. Right now it's inner. Yeah. How do you find water that isn't. Because most of the water is in plastic.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

And even if you look up like what's the best water that doesn't have plastics in it, you know, they won't even really tell you. It's all these like kind of gimmick videos that lead you to buy certain things. Usually to buy water purifiers and stuff.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. But I mean, the idea is just to go. So now we kind of change it now that they are making those. We made a circular system. So we're now on an all powered by boomerang. And it's actually, it's pretty cool, man. Like, the idea is to be in. Starting with Hawaii mainly is to be like in hospitality. So you're in hotels, hospitals, schools, where. Imagine just going to your room and you got a crate, like a milk crate, and there's all your water in there and you drink it and you put it back. And then down in the basement there's a machine. It's a circular system. It sterilizes it, fills it with your natural local water source and puts the minerals back into it and cleans it and makes it so it's fresh water. It's not packaged up, it's. There's no emissions. It's not sitting in some crate in some warehouse in stagnant dead water. It's fresh water always. And if there was a Covid or anything that each hotel would still operate, the. The water still operates. Right. So you can still have fresh water and it's just bottled up. Think of as like you go into a restaurant, eat. You eat with their plates and their fork and you're done. You leave, you come back, you're going to use. You're not going to take shit home. You just. It's just a container for it. And so it's constantly reusable and recyclable. So you're cutting out waste now. The idea was just to cut waste so. Because even when you're having the aluminum bottles, you still got to recycle those. And so it's just, the idea is just to. Either if you're not carrying your own stuff, it's pretty cool that you can go to a hotel and you know that it's, it's. There's no. Not only are you not doing waste, it's getting recycled. So it's a full circular.

[Theo Von]

It's incredible, man.

[Jason Momoa]

Just to kind of get rid of the single. I mean, just to call that shit down. Because it's just absolutely ridiculous.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

When you think the idea of like taking shitty water, putting it in plastic bottles, shipping it to a place like Hawaii which has the best water in the world, we drink it and then the shit ends up in our ocean or a landfill. So it's the dumbest thing in the world. I'm going to try to do that in Hawaii first. So I mean obviously we're self contained plant island Earth. We didn't need anyone. We can, we were self contained at one time. So if we can just do that with all our tourism and people come from all over the world getting married and they get to see what they're doing and each hotel, so we have 4C. All different hotels, Four Seasons and Twin Fan. All these different places where it'll have their, it'll have their label on it. So it's, it's still all there. So their advertising's for them. It's just we're trying to stop the waste.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, I love that. Yeah, dude. When I even think about just how many bottles I like I probably drink seven bottles of water a day. So that's seven empty bots. Like that's just me. That's ridiculous.

[Jason Momoa]

Oh bro. It's just, it's the most archaic thing that we're drinking out of plastic balls. But I mean so we, we're doing it in a business side and eventually we'll try to get it where, you know, we'll have depots for it. But I mean the idea is to get people doing because in every school kids can be doing this.

[Theo Von]

Well, I like the idea too that you can have your thing at home that you could just, you know, that would then be able to refill it. I think, I think that's pretty novel.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. Thanks buddy. It's. Yeah, it's Mononala powered by boomerang. You can check it out. And that's, that's the goal is to, you know, just another thing to try to fix in a very broken world. And we don't need that pollution in our, in our oceans.

[Theo Von]

Aquaman, you heard it?

[Jason Momoa]

You heard it, man.

[Theo Von]

Have you ever been a lifeguard or not?

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. That's why my whole family are watermen. Yeah, they're all lifeguards. Yeah. I went to, I went to junior lifeguards my whole life when I was growing up.

[Theo Von]

Dang. That's like. I wish I could be a lifeguard.

[Jason Momoa]

It's pretty cool when you save someone's life. I've saved first of life before. You did in the ocean. Yeah. And it's It's. It's. It's. When you do junior lifeguards, it's really cool to. To really take your time. Things slow down. I'm sure it's probably like a firefighter. Like, I'd panic in a fire. But I think if I saw so many of them, I practiced, you know, most people go, oh. And then they. They freak out. Whereas the natural calm come kind of comes over you and you just like, assess the whole situation so you can both get out alive. You understand the rip. You understand what the ocean's doing.

[Theo Von]

And you had to save somebody.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Is that in Hawaii?

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Wow.

[Jason Momoa]

But, I mean, it's just the. And I. I'm like, I said I've been many times, like, drowned. I mean, you get cut, you get caught in a rip.

[Theo Von]

Yes.

[Jason Momoa]

You. It's taking you out. You're not going to beat the ocean. And you can literally be. I mean, I've been at Pipeline Elite. Snapped. And I'm literally 8ft from the shore. But it's like a river going by and you're swimming, trying to get in. Like, it's eight feet and you're just getting burned out.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

And you're like, there are cameras everywhere. There are people right there. I could yell for help and I look like a idiot. I'm gonna drown in eight feet of water.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

And if the current. So it's just the. The undertow is just pulling your feet out and it's going to exhaust you. And it generally just got to go with it. It's going to take you out to sea and it'll dump you back in. But that's the. Everyone drowns like that. It's just. You got to watch out for the rips. They'll go jumping into the ocean, and then if you see a sign, don't go in. That's why. I mean, don't be stupid.

[Theo Von]

You're like the Yogi Bear of the ocean. Kind of remember him?

[Jason Momoa]

Oh, I do. You put out those fires, kids?

[Theo Von]

Yeah, dude, put them out.

[Jason Momoa]

You know what I'm saying?

[Theo Von]

I know. He was so adamant.

[Jason Momoa]

He was talking to me the other day. I built a fire and I was like, it's. Everything's green around. Yeah. In my head because we're psychos. But I was like, listen, I could dump out.

[Theo Von]

Oh, Smokey the Bear, dude. Sorry, who did I say? Yogi Bear?

[Jason Momoa]

Yogi Bear is.

[Theo Von]

Oh, dude, he's starting the fires then. God, he's probably on Suboxone or whatever by now. Oh, yeah, he's not doing well. I think he was a stepdad, too. You can tell by his outfit. You could tell by that outfit. He was definitely trying to meet a lady that already had kids. Probably too.

[Jason Momoa]

Not like the Bernstein bear where he was locked in. Yeah, yeah, he was just a dumb dad.

[Theo Von]

That guy was a family man. He was.

[Jason Momoa]

He was.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Berenstein was a family.

[Jason Momoa]

I love me some Bernstein.

[Theo Von]

God, they were good.

[Jason Momoa]

Especially, like the fall issues. Always. It was. Got snuggled down when I read those ones.

[Theo Von]

And the skit one. Remember there was that one scary book? One of them. There was a fire, whatever. And people were like, no, no fires in the barren stained bears. And people flipped out and.

[Jason Momoa]

Oh, really?

[Theo Von]

Yeah, dude. People just cannot handle real. That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. Was there ever. Was there. Was there a time in a movie where you were training for something? It was like one of the toughest things you ever had to actually train for, or does it never go that far with training?

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, I mean, training for. Training for Aquaman was pretty. Was pretty challenging. I'd have to say maybe the. Yeah, I'd say probably. Aquaman's probably the hardest I've ever had to train. I'm not a very, like. I'm not like a gym rat. I just like to do things. Rock climbing, you know, go surfing and things like that. But actually, like, get. You do that for a role. I don't necessarily.

[Theo Von]

Like, you're not in there getting pumped every day like a maniac or taking sarms.

[Jason Momoa]

No, I just want to do the things I love to do.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

But I'm.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, you know, like some subs. Monkey that's over there. GNC every day or something. Supplements guy.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, I don't even do, like, creatine, all that.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah?

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah. I like to eat food.

[Theo Von]

Damn.

[Jason Momoa]

I like to eat.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Hawaiian, dude. Yeah. You got to get fat when you get older.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, I'm definitely going that way.

[Theo Von]

Hell, yeah. I can't wait to get fat.

[Jason Momoa]

I'm trying not to, baby, but as.

[Theo Von]

Soon as I get married, I'm getting fat. And then I'm getting divorced, too. I can't wait to get divorced. What else? So people should go see the Wrecking Crew. It's a great film. It's fun. It's.

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, it's good, actually. It's feel good. You get to go to Hawaii. You know, if you can't make it there, put on the Wrecking Crew. Yeah, Let me and Dave take care of you.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

Work out some trauma.

[Theo Von]

In your family, open up a can of Dole pineapple for your lady and put on the wrecking crew. Yeah, it's almost the same thing.

[Jason Momoa]

Some shaved coconut.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Jason Momoa]

You know, I mean, some mounds. Oh, dude, bust out a couple of those.

[Theo Von]

My dad used to give us mounds sometimes when we're good.

[Jason Momoa]

Not a lot then, huh?

[Theo Von]

Not a lot. Not a lot of mounds. Yeah. Dude, thanks so much for taking time. I know you had a long day, man. I know it's like kind of a pain in the ass, and it's not, man.

[Jason Momoa]

I don't do podcasts that much because I always get in trouble. So you're my second, and it was wonderful. And, dude, I'm just. It's awesome to meet you, man.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, it's a pleasure, man. Thanks for all the awesome entertainment and. Yeah, thanks for just sitting and sharing some of your experiences and story with me.

[Jason Momoa]

You know, there's one thing too. You know the thing that you have with. Oh, my goodness. David Spade. When we were at the 50s SNL, he was there. Yeah, So I saw. I saw him when we were there. My daughter is like a massive, massive fan of Brooklyn Nine Nine. So Andy Sandberg's like her dude she loves the most. So I saw him about last person I'm leaving. I see him and I go, dude, my daughter loves you. Can I please get a picture with you? And I send the video to my daughter and I said, hey, listen, if there's anything, I'd love to do something with you. About three weeks later, he pitches this story in Hawaii. It's amazing. I laugh my ass off. We instantly sell it. I'm going in two weeks to go shoot it in Hawaii.

[Theo Von]

No way.

[Jason Momoa]

With David fucking year later. No, with. With Sandberg. Yeah, but I'm just saying it's the same thing where you've just, like, minded.

[Theo Von]

Friends, you were saying?

[Jason Momoa]

Yeah, just friends and buddies meet in the comments. Comedy. Like, I've never met him before just through my daughter. But you see something and you're like.

[Theo Von]

Dude, and you make a friend.

[Jason Momoa]

But like, I'm saying, you got anything in there and you want to, you know, you see me, you see like, oh, dude, Mimo would be. Then, oh, my God, I'm going, think this be fun to be in. You know what I mean?

[Theo Von]

I'm going thinking something good. You're Paul Bunyan.

[Jason Momoa]

And I could be the Blue Ox, bro. You could be Paul Bunion.

[Theo Von]

I don't know, babe.

[Jason Momoa]

Don't be bab.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, you'll be Babe the Blue Ox then. And we got to find somebody to Paul Bunyan. I'm gonna be the brother that's on methadone. But we'll figure it out.

[Jason Momoa]

We'll figure it out, homie.

[Theo Von]

Jason Momoa. Thanks so much, man. Go see the wrecking crew, guys. Cornerstone.

[Jason Momoa]

Oh.

[Theo Von]

But when I reach that ground, I'll share this piece of my life out.

[Jason Momoa]

I can feel it in my bones. But it's gonna take a little.