#662 - Matt Rife

Summary

Podcast Summary: This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

Episode #662 – Matt Rife

Release Date: June 10, 2026
Guest: Matt Rife (Comedian, Actor)

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Episode Overview

In this lively, meandering, and funny episode, Theo Von welcomes comedian and actor Matt Rife for his first appearance on the show. The conversation covers everything from the burdens of being a “good looking comedian,” the intricacies of stand-up and touring, to Rife’s paranormal adventures and reflections on family, mortality, and the digital surveillance state. True to the podcast’s vibe, the tone is loose, irreverent, and often heartfelt, with plenty of candid storytelling and thoughtful asides.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. The Burden of Good Looks in Comedy

• Theo teases Matt about being the “good looking comedian,” suggesting he changed the landscape for other comics.
  • “Comedian was a safe place for kinda regular looking dudes... but you did it, bro. We wouldn't go out after you came onto the scene.” – Theo (04:04)
• Matt’s reaction: He doesn’t mind the label, noting it bothers others more than him. The reputation follows him despite not asking for it.
  • “People act like I’m the one walking around saying it!” – Matt (05:41)

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2. Comedy as a Community and Coping Mechanism

• Discussion on Ralphie May:
  • Matt reflects on his comedy mentor, Ralphie May. They recall Ralphie’s youthful start, unique humor, and ability to unite diverse crowds (31:06–36:54).
  • “Ralphie was one of a kind, bro... I wish I could see how he would have navigated comedy today.” – Matt (32:31)
  • Matt shares heartfelt stories about opening for Ralphie as a teen and the impact of his passing.

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3. Sexual Anxiety and Performance

• Theo relates stories of living with a friend’s dad who prescribed erectile pills, tying these anecdotes to early struggles with intimacy and anxiety around women (15:01–17:12).
  • “I had a ton of sexual anxiety. And he wasn’t using them all. He was going through ‘em quick, I didn’t know that before I signed the lease.” – Theo (14:19)
  • The conversation is honest but laced with humor about masculinity and insecurity.

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4. Touring Life, Fame, and Post-Success Uncertainty

• Matt describes the exhausting but rewarding life of a touring comic and actor:
  • Balancing acting jobs (starring in Netflix's upcoming “The Altruists”) with grueling touring schedules. (43:53–50:08)
  • On the emptiness or depression that can follow the achievement of big goals:
    • “For the first time in 20 years, I don't have a tour date on the books, and I don't ever have to have one if I don't want to... It's been like, I've had a little bit of depression. I didn't know what it was from.” – Theo (50:44)
  • Both discuss how “slowing down” can feel wrong after so many years of constantly grinding.

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5. Technology, Surveillance, and Escapism

• The dangers of over-information:
  • The guys talk about the negative effects of being “too informed” and the burden of carrying the world’s problems (21:17–23:41).
  • “Sometimes being uninformed leads to a little bit of happiness.” – Matt (21:17)
  • Theo: “Sometimes I notice I'll even use worrying about other stuff as a method of escapism...” (25:03)
• Mass surveillance and AI:
  • Analysis of the growing surveillance state via data centers, Flock cameras, and AI monitoring (101:03–110:47).
  • Playing clips about license plate-reading Flock cameras feeding into police databases (109:01)
  • “Do we have to be watched all the time?” – Matt (104:39)

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6. Paranormal Passions & The Annabelle Doll

• Matt’s involvement in the paranormal:
  • He and business partner purchased Ed & Lorraine Warren’s house (of Annabelle/Conjuring fame) and opened it up as a haunted Airbnb & museum (40:39, 72:19–76:24).
  • “To get to be a part of arguably the most prominent piece of paranormal history on Earth... is awesome, dude.” – Matt (73:38)
  • Describes preserving Warren family artifacts, respect for the paranormal community, and strict boundaries (no one messes with the Annabelle doll outside its case).
• Personal spiritual beliefs:
  • Matt describes feeling some comfort in paranormal pursuits, especially after the loss of his grandfather – “Helps reassure me there is something else... like maybe I’ll get to see him again.” (77:26–79:20)

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7. Family, Grief & Inspiration

• Matt remembers his grandfather:

  • Deeply moving segment about losing his “best friend” and father figure, sharing how he still prays to him before every show (79:30–82:14).
  • “I definitely wouldn’t have got into comedy if it wasn’t for him.” – Matt (80:28)

• Supporting his mother:

  • Matt recently bought a new house for his mom, moving her closer to family. He reflects on how their relationship has changed as she’s become more confident in his success (94:44–95:13).

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8. Impact & Philosophy of Crowd Work

• Matt's reputation for crowd work:
  • Talks about how successful crowd work clips (like the viral “Christina from Iowa” bit) changed expectations from audiences (82:22–96:11).
  • “It’s different every time. That’s the fun... sometimes you talk to a super hot mom or the biggest dick you’ve ever seen, or somebody all crumpled up in the corner. You don’t know.” – Matt (96:22)
  • They discuss how online clips skew what fans expect live, and recount hilarious/awkward moments in the crowd.

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9. International Touring Adventures

• Touring in Europe:
  • Matt tells wild stories of touring new countries—including a crew member getting roofied and robbed in Romania (97:19–98:18).
  • Discusses differences in crowds and crowd work abroad, including the language barrier in Scotland: “You can’t crowd work in Scotland—you can’t understand them.” – Matt (100:44)

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10. Reflections on the Modern World

• Nostalgia for Pre-Digital Childhoods:
  • Both lament the loss of boredom, unstructured time, and organic socializing in a phone-obsessed world (105:58–108:20).
    • “I think it makes you a better person... I got the privilege of boredom.” – Matt (106:50)
• Fears about the future:
  • Uncertainty about where society is heading with mass surveillance, AI, and loss of real connection.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps!)

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On being the “good looking comedian”

• “You changed a lot, bro. When you became... comedian was a safe place for kinda regular looking dudes... But you did it, bro.” – Theo (04:05)

On crowd work taking off online

• “I definitely wasn't the first one to do it. Like, Schultz was a big inspiration for me... but I see the importance of content in the standup market.” – Matt (84:47)

On grief and the afterlife:

• “When my grandpa passed away, I had this really big moment of, like, okay, there can't just be this. There has to be something out there...” – Matt (77:31)
• “I still pray to him before every show... hope you enjoy it, in case you guys are watching.” – Matt (82:07)

On coping with slowing down:

• “It's hard, man. From going from 100 to zero... It's hard to coast.” – Matt (53:01)

On the impact of surveillance:

• “Do we have to be watched all the time?” – Matt (104:39)
• “I don't even want to live in this time, to be honest.” – Matt (105:18)

On nostalgia and childhood:

• “I got the privilege of boredom. I think that's good for your brain to be a kid and have nothing to do and have to figure it out.” – Matt (106:50)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–01:17: Intro, episode housekeeping, guest intro
• 04:00–05:30: “Good Looking Comedian” bit
• 15:04–17:12: Early sexual anxiety, living with friend’s dad for “wiener pills”
• 31:06–36:54: Remembering Ralphie May
• 50:44–53:01: On post-touring depression and fulfillment
• 72:34–77:26: Acquiring Ed and Lorraine Warren’s house, Annabelle doll, haunting stuff
• 77:26–82:14: Grief, seeking connection with deceased loved ones
• 82:20–97:05: Crowd work, viral hits, and backstage stories
• 97:19–100:44: European tour stories, fleeting safety abroad
• 101:03–110:47: Data centers, Flock cameras, surveillance state debate
• 106:50–108:20: Remembering pre-digital childhood
• 111:00–112:25: Matt plugs current tour and Netflix project (“The Altruists” due December); closing banter

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Tone and Style

• Language: Candid, explicit, and heartfelt. Both comics lean into self-deprecating humor, absurd images, and relatable vulnerability.
• Style: Blends wild storytelling, deep thoughts, and random pop culture in typical “This Past Weekend” fashion.
• Memorable Moments:
  • Bit about “wake up nut” and sexual performance anxiety (56:27)
  • Audience stories: from “milk tonsils” to “biggest dick ever seen” in the crowd (90:10–94:16)
  • Candid memories of their comedy mentors and families

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Useful For...

• Fans who want insight into Matt Rife’s personal journey, creative philosophy, and side interests
• Those interested in the emotional reality of big-league stand-up careers
• Viewers curious about the intersection of pop culture, comedy, and serious modern anxieties (tech, surveillance, purpose)

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Closing Thought:
The episode is a revealing, meandering, and often hilarious conversation, offering a unique snapshot of two comics at once grateful for their success and deeply reflective about where they—and the world—go next.

Transcript

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[B]

Shine on me and I will find a. So.

[A]

How we doing here?

[B]

Looking good, dude.

[A]

Looking all right. Yeah, I just want to make sure I look blm adjacent.

[B]

You what?

[A]

I just want to make sure that

[B]

I look blm adjacent.

[A]

Yeah, I want to look blm adjacent.

[B]

Like, you wouldn't protest yourself, but you'd help make the signs.

[A]

I just want them to know that, you know what I'm saying? I'll. Yeah, I'll pull up. You know what I'm saying?

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100.

[A]

But I'm not getting crazy out there.

[B]

No, no. Like, I'll, I'll hit the barbecue, but I'm not hitting the march, you know? Yeah, dude, it's got to be a line.

[A]

Yeah. Because the BLM march also, I think it just got too. I don't know.

[B]

It came at a good time in my life. I had just gotten a whoop bracelet, so I was all about my steps at that time.

[A]

Oh, for the BLM marches?

[B]

Yeah, I was kind of right on time.

[A]

Oh, that's a great point, dude. People don't think about. Dude, I wouldn't be surprised. And this is a conspiracy theory. A lot of those were like BLM marches and like, probably the, you know, I don't know if also maybe like the George Floyd protest. That was all kind of the same thing, I think.

[B]

I think so.

[A]

But were the. Were the BLM marches and stuff, was all that part of like just big propaganda for like the Woo bracelet and

[B]

some of those companies? Is that a real conspiracy? If people would think it was just for the fitness aspect, I don't know.

[A]

Let's look that up on Perplexity if you can, dude. Or what are they saying is there? Because all I'm saying is that's smart. That's smart. Do we put out this thing? People need their steps. How do we get them outdoors?

[B]

It's a black bracelet.

[A]

I'm just.

[B]

The bracelet could have been any color.

[A]

Hey, you said it.

[B]

That's way too early in the pod for that.

[A]

I mean, bro, this pod's been through a lot, so.

[B]

I know, man. I'm so happy we finally make it happen.

[A]

I think we'll be fine, dude. Me too, man. Good to see you, dude.

[B]

Good to see you too, man.

[A]

Wow, I forget, dude. No, there's no credible evidence that the BLM marches were a conspiracy to sell. Whoops. What? Which is a little slangish, I feel like, for perplexity. Or that the protests themselves were pre planned as a fake operation. Huh? What is true is that the 2020 protests happened in response to the George Floyd killing and like many large demonstrations that included a mix of peaceful marches and some incidents of violence, looting and misinformation.

[B]

I gotta tell you, man, you're very good at reading out loud. You think your cold read skills are incredible.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Oh yeah. I was stumbling over those words, not even saying it out loud. Yeah, I was very impressive.

[A]

I'm just glad to know that you don't have every skill, dude, because when you like, because you were like, dude, you kind of. You made things difficult on a lot of us, bro. When you were like the good looking comedian, dude.

[B]

And first of all, were hurt a lot. That was. That was the meanest part of the sentence. Fuck.

[A]

Sorry. You changed a lot, bro. When you became, you just changed the whole role. It was like. Because comedian was a safe place for like kind of regular looking dudes who didn't have that thing, bro, who couldn't really go around. Who couldn't just walk up to a woman and be like, ta da.

[B]

That's not true. You literally have that. Everybody knows that.

[A]

No. Yes, that's. I thank you.

[B]

No, man. Amongst the comedy community. You're a piece of ass, dude. Everybody knows this.

[A]

That is not true.

[B]

Absolutely true. You got to get out and ask more.

[A]

Oh, I Mean, I may, I, I, I there. I mean, I don't think so. But what I do know is there's a, there's only. No, you did it, bro. You were like, oh, my God. And people. Dude, I remember a lot of comedians, a lot of us were. We wouldn't even go out of our

[B]

houses for months after I, after I came onto the scene.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I started doing push ups.

[A]

Oh, yeah. People were like, we were making noises we'd never even made before.

[B]

Like primal urges. Yeah.

[A]

We didn't even know what to do. Dude, we're buying beer and just smashing the cans and just all kinds of shit. People were just drinking Dr. Pepper and just like touching themselves in parks and stuff. People didn't know how to operate. They didn't know how to operate, brother. But yeah, dude. Anyway, good to see you, bro. I'm just kind of giving you a hard time.

[B]

Likewise, man. I've seen you forever.

[A]

I know. Congrats on all your success and everything.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[A]

So cool.

[B]

It's wild, dude.

[A]

It, it's a lot. Yeah. You know what? We did talk one time. Hold on, I'm not even done with this yet. Is it, is it. Does it bug you that I say the good looking comedian things that bug you at all or.

[B]

No, it doesn't bother. It doesn't bother me. It bothers other people. I suppose it does. You think I get shit for it all the time. People act like I'm the one walking around saying it.

[A]

Oh, yes.

[B]

That's the weird part.

[A]

Oh no, dude. Yeah, because it was like. What do you mean? Because first you heard rumors as a guy and he's, he's doing comedy and it's good. And he's. And he's good looking and people like. What do you mean? People are calling their grandfathers. He did grandfathers. And your grandpa be like, what do you mean? And his woo bracelet would fucking start, you know? Not good. Not good. Call Edna now. Like, report to grandmother.

[B]

I was affecting family.

[A]

Dude, you were just. It was just a lot for people, bro.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

Because people had never seen that. The, you know, this is like. There's a. There, there's some people that have like skill. Like a skill and then another. Like, people are surprised when somebody has one skill and then they also have something else. It's almost like, like Justin Tucker. Do you know who that is for Baltimore? The Baltimore Ravens kicker. Can you bring him up? Yeah, yeah. He's an. I believe he's a. Is he an opera singer? He's a mesop He's.

[B]

He's a singer.

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He's a singer.

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No way.

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So we got that leg and that throat, bro.

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Just a full body powerhouse.

[A]

Yeah. They said it would take a man 40 years to get out of this here prison, but Andy Dufresne did it in less than 20, bro. Props to Justin Tucker. I mean, that's beautiful.

[B]

What do you think is the bigger flex, being an NFL punter or having that kind of skill set to opera sing?

[A]

I think that you get you. The NFL punter is just a mild thing that he's doing.

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It's a hobby.

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Yeah.

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Just to pay the bills while he pursues.

[A]

Bro, when you got that kind of lung in you, bro, and you out there just. He's just all lungs.

[B]

You ever try. You ever try to sing like that? Like, to be like, I wonder if I can?

[A]

Yeah, I think I have probably. Have you?

[B]

Yeah, of course. It's always like, when you're in your car, you turn the radio down, you turn the volume down just enough to hear yourself. You're like, am I fucking this up? Then you can hear yourself. You're like, I'm fucking ruining this song. Like, I know I don't have it in me. Because you have to try eventually. You don't know what skill set you might have. Yeah, like, I was watching.

[A]

That's a good point. Yeah. You don't know what skill set you might have. Right. And who even ever even tries? How many people could be like, they never even tried? That's unbelievable. Yeah, like. Yeah, like, are there things you've tried? Are there some side quests that you've kind of tried?

[B]

You know what? I feel like I've been so busy, I haven't had time to really explore a lot of other avenues, but I'd like to learn stuff. I'd love to learn, like an instrument or something. Or magic. Dude. Yeah, you with magic.

[A]

I mean, I think it's. You know, I'm kind of like, that's where the black and me shows up at the surface, bro. When people start doing a lot of

[B]

magic, you know, like, it feels like it could be too real.

[A]

It just like, what if this dude's doing this right here? What's he doing in his. All in his. You know what I'm saying? If he's willing to show us this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What's he doing at the house?

[B]

That's a good point. But also picturing somebody learning magic in their house by themselves is also one of the funniest things I could. I can imagine. I can't Picture anything lonelier. Nobody around to see your walla, your kazam, whatever your fucking power word is. I don't know. Is that not a. Is that another magician word? Is that like a chef? Is that chef shit?

[A]

That's a good question, bro.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do chefs and magicians beef over there, like, over their, like, verbal. Like, ejaculate or whatever it's called? Or like, they're like, dude, chefs and magicians beef over, like, their. What is it called, do you think, Matt? They're like.

[B]

They're. It's not deliver. They are. It is a delivery, but, like, finishing syllables. Finishing syllables. Yes, there is onomatopoeia.

[A]

Yeah, that's what it is. I think it is.

[B]

Is that, like, the word for sounds?

[A]

Yeah, bring that up. Onomatopoeia, dude. Onomatopoeia was like, some kid that couldn't read good, that had to go to the toilet or whatever. I remember that we had a dude in our. In our Sunday school, and he couldn't. You just started looking at him, bro, and you could tell he had to go to the toe.

[B]

He was fidgeting.

[A]

Yeah, he was. His whole body would start shaking, bro.

[B]

I'm not gonna lie to you. I. I would have lost all my money on how to spell that word, onomatopoeia.

[A]

And you'd be like, damn, onomatopoeia soon, bro. So we gotta get him out of here, bro. And onomatopoeia is the process of creating a word that phonetically imitates or suggest the sound that it describes.

[B]

I didn't even know there was a T in there. I've been saying onomatopoeia my entire life.

[A]

Yeah. Well, we can take a break if you need us to. Impacts and collisions. So, like, boom, bang, crash. You know what did it a lot was like those old comic books with, like, Batman.

[B]

Oh, 100%. It's just the one big word. Bang. Yes. Back when it was. It was Adam west was like, the original Batman. You big comic guy.

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You know, I'm not that big into it, but I think I liked it when I was a kid. Kid. But I never got into the comic books.

[B]

I feel that.

[A]

Did you?

[B]

No, I can't do it. I don't know why. I'm not a big on paper kind of guy. Like, I'm not reading the Harry Potter books. I'm not doing it.

[A]

Yeah. Now, I mean, I could settle. I think if I ever have to go to the hospital for a long time. I'm saving Sopranos and Harry Potter for now. I got to go to the hospital

[B]

for a long recovery series.

[A]

Hospital. If I get married and if my wife's in a coma or something, I got to sit in there with her

[B]

just ever propped up to watch the series. That's what's the.

[A]

Well, I mean, I'm going to have just. I want to have something to do. I want to be able to look for. Because some people that's such a scary time in their life if your spouse is in a coma or something, if your wife's in a coma. So I want to at least be able to look forward to something. So I've saved those things till then.

[B]

What's that? Is it Munch housing syndrome is where you keep somebody sick so that they need you? I could see you doing that just. Just to finish the series.

[A]

Yeah, dude. Like my.

[B]

My.

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My wife's like, she's starting. Like, you're getting like a little bit of reading on her. Like her. Like on the.

[B]

On the Harby monitor.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Like, oh, hold on, honey.

[B]

I'm almost done.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Hold on. I got four episodes of Breaking Bad left, dude. You know that's happened to somebody.

[B]

Oh, 100. No, there was a guy I met a guy at a show one time who he faked being sick from work for three weeks to stay home and watch tv. That was like his full thing.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And his wife totally just allowed it, which was like a cool mom letting you skip school.

[A]

That's got to be dope.

[B]

Yeah, man. That's the one.

[A]

That's the. The one.

[B]

I want to find a lady like

[A]

that on the second day. She's like, oh, I see what you're doing.

[B]

Oh, yeah. He's not even faking anymore. On day three. He's just living his life. She's on to him.

[A]

Yeah. And she's like, I like it.

[B]

How long are you going to be here?

[A]

Dang, dude. Yeah, that's got to be. If you get like a good partner like that. But yeah, dude. So that's like, what are we even talking about?

[B]

How the are we getting to watching on a monop. On a Monopoly? Yeah. The bangs the wallahs magic.

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Oh, man.

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What it was.

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What would you. Yeah, yeah. What's your finishing term?

[B]

Oh, man.

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Because how did walla come to be a term? How did. Or what? Ta da.

[B]

I think it's Tada Walla is definitely a chef term. I don't know why that came to me. While that sounds like. Tells audience the truth. Oh, oh.

[A]

Voila. Came from. Voila.

[B]

Tells the abracadabra That's a. Yeah. Classic. It's magic. Might be the lamest one I've heard. You do a trick, you got to tell them what it is.

[A]

It's magic.

[B]

That's magic.

[A]

Hey, that's like, if you're making love to a girl and it's not that good. You're like, it's sex.

[B]

Yeah, that's come.

[A]

Yeah, it's wiener. She's like, it's barely wiener. Okay.

[B]

It's not dick. For sure.

[A]

It's not dick. It's wiener. It's almost like one of those, like, can't believe it's not dick.

[B]

How is that not like Bluechew's motto? Bluechew him's pills. I can't believe it's not dick.

[A]

Yeah, that's weird.

[B]

Pop one of those bad boys.

[A]

The blue choos.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, dude. Yes. And, dude, I'll even nibble just half of one.

[B]

A half?

[A]

Well, yeah, I kind of base it on, like, how. That. What's going on or whatever. Like, because I used to live with my buddy's dad. I used to live. Brother.

[B]

What. How could this possibly. Where's this going?

[A]

Yeah, it doesn't go anywhere gay. It goes to a straight place.

[B]

There's no way.

[A]

But it takes a gay route.

[B]

Okay, I'm listening. I'm following the curve.

[A]

My buddy's dad and Rip. My buddy's dad just passed Wally, and I lived with him. Dude, Right out of high school. I live with him because he had a script for them wiener pills.

[B]

Right?

[A]

And you just could. They didn't have Blue Chew at the time. You couldn't just be getting those uppers. You know what I'm saying? And so when somebody. It was like, dude. So I was like, well, if I live with Wally, then he's got a script, and I can just pop him if I need him. Because I had a ton of sexual anxiety.

[B]

And he wasn't using them all.

[A]

He was using them. He was going through them pretty quick. That's what I didn't know. I wish he'd have told me that before we signed the lease.

[B]

So you're going to have visitors.

[A]

Oh, I thought. Dude. I thought I was going to be living large, dude. You know what I'm saying, bro? I'm just. I'm just saying, like, his erection was getting its steps in, you know, he's got a whooper.

[B]

He's got a whoop around it.

[A]

Yeah, it's like, yeah, that's dick.

[B]

What was the. What was the sexual anxiety that you had?

[A]

Oh, just in my. I had a lot of sexual anxiety, bro.

[B]

Just nerves.

[A]

Yeah, a ton of nerves.

[B]

What is that? What is.

[A]

Like, I had a tough time talking with girls. It made me nervous, bro. Like, super nervous, because I think I had a tough relationship with my mother. So even just the interaction with, like, looking at a woman, being looked at by that kind of stuff was, like, made me super, like, nervous. So I think that just. That didn't just. It doesn't just go away kind of. So then you move on through life. And now, now the women you're interacting with, it's like about, you know, dating, intimacy, dating sexuality, whatever. Wiener. And then for wiener, that's all, you know, so just some of that. But anyway, so I went to live and I got to talk. Dude, I have you here and I'm talking so much.

[B]

No, I love the story already.

[A]

So I went to live with Wally, bro. All piece, shout out. And. And so we were living over there. We're living in, like, a studio apartment, too, so. Oh, no, no, no. It wasn't that bad. Sorry. It was a one bedroom, but the bedroom didn't have. It just had a little balcony. Didn't have, like, a full wall.

[B]

Got it, Got it. Okay.

[A]

So I'd sleep out on the couch, and he had a car, and he would let me borrow his car. But the car, you couldn't turn it off. You had to get it jumped. So I would drive the car to school and I'd park. Like, this was at Loyola in New Orleans. I would park up by the, like, teacher's area and just leave it running the whole time. And for some reason, if the car's running, they, like, wouldn't put a ticket on it. Like, oh, somebody just ran inside.

[B]

Whatever. It's genius.

[A]

So I'd leave it running the whole time I was at class. It would cost me, like, maybe $6 in gas, but I would leave it running. Anyway. He got the pills. I would try to nibble off of him so he didn't see. And I'm trying to reshape him.

[B]

And, bro, I was carving them into crescent moons.

[A]

Oh, dude, I was trying to make them all smaller, bro. It.

[B]

I was like, chiseling it.

[A]

Yes. Yeah. I was like, yeah, like shift. And it would be like an oval. And now it's just like a diamond or something. Like, it was trap, bro.

[B]

Did he ever catch you?

[A]

Huh? He never brought it up to me, bro.

[B]

That's a gentleman.

[A]

And he'd have ladies over sometimes, and I was learning the guitar actually, at the time and he'd have. He'd go in there sometimes at night and play Tears in Heaven for them. That's a song I could play, Tears.

[B]

Who sings it?

[A]

I did. At the time it was Eric Clatchen. There you go.

[B]

Would you know my name being serenaded to that would. I don't even know if I need the pills.

[A]

Yeah. They'd be drinking orange juice and vodka in the bed, and I'd go in there and just play it for them a couple times.

[B]

Dude, it's so hard to smash with a roommate. I remember my first apartment in la. I was living with my manager's son at the time. And it was a studio. There was just no. There was no door into the bedroom, so it was really an open floor plan. And I was sleep. I lived on the couch and I had, like, the small closet. Then he had, like, what would be considered the bedroom. I remember he was out of town one weekend and this girl wanted to come over and I. We. We had. We did sex in his bed. And she was like, what all those clothes doing out there? I was like, oh, yeah. I let my friend live on the couch.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, always.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. My friend's not doing well, I would say.

[B]

Yeah, of course. May seem like I'm doing a good deed.

[A]

Yeah. He's passing through town. He's like. He's passing through town. He put all his pictures up on the walls and shit, like. Yeah. He's kind of guy.

[B]

Of course, travels with his memories.

[A]

Yeah. Travels and memories.

[B]

Dude.

[A]

Oh, voila. D, dude.

[B]

Voila.

[A]

Were you guys out this weekend? I know you were here for CMA Fest, right?

[B]

Yeah, I came down for. To do some stuff with Billboard with the Red Clay Strays and then just stayed in town for the shows. Man, I love it here.

[A]

You do?

[B]

Yeah. I almost moved to Nashville, but I wanted land and I wanted a lot of it, right. And there wasn't anything within, like, an hour of the city that I really liked. And if you live an hour outside of Nashville, you don't really live in Nashville. You live in Chattanooga.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. You live a little bit further out. I agree. Yeah, it's nice. There's some good land out there. Yeah, dude. What? Yeah, I saw. What did I see with Red Clay Trade? You were giving them an award.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I gave them the Groundbreakers award for Billboard. That was awesome, man.

[A]

So cool.

[B]

Dude, they're such good guys.

[A]

Oh, they're the best. Oh, there you are right there. Dude.

[B]

Bro, this. So there was no introduction whatsoever. They just go and Matt Rife. Everybody's like, wait, for real? Turning away from the bar. There's a giant open pit of, like, I'm gonna say 30ft by 50ft. People just standing. Like, it was a wet floor. Nobody wanted to come close. It's the weirdest thing ever.

[A]

Yeah. This.

[B]

Okay. It's like two minutes long.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The guys up.

[A]

Dude, that's awesome. You get to bring these guys up. They're special, bro. You know, comedy, really, a lot of comedians really embrace them. I think a lot of. If you go to their shows, it's almost music for men and young men. Do you feel like that in a way?

[B]

I do. I do. It's. I mean, it's such a. I don't know. It reminds me of music from, like, the 50s and 60s, which I think was, like, music's golden age. And I think there's a. There's a yearning for that because everybody loves that sound. But there's no new production of that. And I think they. They put that out. It's refreshing. I love those guys.

[A]

Yeah. They're so good, bro. Sometimes I feel.

[B]

Dude, it's my favorite song. I. I'm still fine.

[A]

So good.

[B]

Kyle and I would blast that in the house for days.

[A]

People here living it up. I think. I think there's no matter. Oh, God.

[B]

So good, dude. Oh, I love them. Shout out to red Clay straight.

[A]

Pull up those lyrics, dude. Let me see those lyrics for a second.

[B]

You know, Brandon's brother Matthew wrote that song.

[A]

He wrote it?

[B]

Yeah. Not even. Not even in the band, technically. He's writing hits, dude.

[A]

I saw him the other night, dude. I knew he wrote some of their songs. Sometimes I feel like I can't feel. Obviously, this is a song about being on antidepressants, then. This is something about coming off of ssri.

[B]

This is a real. Should be hurting.

[A]

This isn't real. I should be hurting. I was alone I was a song. Music and bone God's perfect wording. People here living it up, I think they're blind. I think they're out of their minds. Not one of them has had this. God's not giving up on me. No. I'm just fine. It's just a matter of time.

[B]

I mean, those are bars in there, man.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think it's powerful stuff. People here living. I think they're blind. It's like, yeah. How can you. How can you be so positive? And all this stuff's going on, dude.

[A]

I think that's kind of. As soon as it's where we are in the world. And I don't even want to get negative, but it's like, it does feel sometimes like we are pretending that we're okay. Does that make sense?

[B]

Absolutely. I mean, I think I operate from a big position of just bliss. I try to stay out of stuff. Like, I'm not. I'm not a political person at all. Like, I just. I. I should get torn to shreds for even saying this, but, like, I don't pay attention. It seems so stressful. Seems like all bad stuff all the time. And I'm like, it's either happen or it's not. Nothing I can really do about it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, I mean, sometimes being uninformed leads to a little bit of happiness.

[A]

Do you know? It's a good. It's a good point. I think the more that I've. The more I learned sometimes the more it hurts sometimes or something hurt.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

I don't know what it is. No.

[B]

I think that's life, though. I think about, like, when you're a kid, you don't know anything. Life is so blissful. Right. You can't. You don't. You don't even know about all the problems going on.

[A]

Yeah, dude, you're sitting or. That's so right. Little kids are just like. They don't know anything.

[B]

I think the more you learn, as life goes by, I mean, I think the. The magic of. Of life kind of gets smeared.

[A]

Yeah. You know, sometimes I wonder. It's like. Because sometimes we talk. We'll talk about stuff on here that's like, kind of political or things that, like, we feel a lot of. It's like, stuff that you end up learning about through technology, too. And it's like, we wouldn't know it if we were like, back in, like, tribal time or we were in like, these, you know, if we didn't have so much technology, we wouldn't know a lot of this stuff.

[B]

But do you think that's how we're supposed to be, though?

[A]

I don't think it's how we're supposed to be. I think there will be a time in the future where we will look back and. Or someone will look back and they'll be like, what were they do? How did they even. What was happening?

[B]

You think? Do you think we're supposed to know about everything going on in the world? Like, do you think we should know what's going on, like, overseas in different countries with different people?

[A]

It's tough, dude.

[B]

Like us human beings.

[A]

Well, I wonder if sometimes I think that. No, it doesn't do us any good. I mean, a lot of times I'm angry about stuff that's not even in my area, and then it's like, where I could probably put that. Put that same energy towards stuff that is maybe more localized.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or even in my own family and personal life to have a better effect on those things or try to. But then I also. I've heard people talk about, like, that there's no real separation, like, between space and time. So I wonder sometimes, like, if people, like, if you see something that's so painful in the world and you prayed enough about it, or you really tried to channel, like, whatever good had been blessed to you or bestowed upon you, if you try to channel it towards, like, could you have an effect? You know, so. Because then that makes me think, oh, well, then there is some purpose to all of that.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

But I don't know. I don't know any of that. But it's just. It is stuff to think about.

[B]

No, that's a good spiritual direction, though. I like that.

[A]

You know, it's something to think about, but I don't think there's anything. I can't sit here and be like, sometimes. Like, sometimes I'll be like, well, why don't certain people say this, Say, speak up, somebody. But that's. That's me, like, trying to project or think some way. It's like everybody's on their own thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Of course, sometimes I maybe have wishes, but. But sometimes it's like, yeah, it'd be better to just, like, sit and laugh. Sometimes people just want their comedians to just joke around and not be. Not be talking about other stuff.

[B]

Yeah. Sometimes. Because somebody doesn't speak up on something doesn't mean that they're not empathetic about it. Maybe they just. Maybe they can't handle it. Maybe that's just not where they're. They might have blinders on that, you know, they have their sights on something specific or just minding their own business. Yeah. Doesn't always mean they're a bad person, I don't think.

[A]

No, I don't think so either. Yeah. Like, I have friends and my buddies. Like, dude, I. I was like, do you ever think about this or worry about this? He's like, well, you know, I got a couple kids. My kids right now, and I have a kid who, you know, he has a kid that has some learning disabilities. Like, I just spend. I have to focus on that. It's like, you can't fault that.

[B]

It's like, no, I think that's actually better, I think. I think general. I think focusing a lot of your energy on the things more direct to you, I think can be a good thing. I think that's a lot more peaceful. Think about the things that get. Like, people are complaining online all the time about something, right? Yes, all the time. And it's like, okay, is that thing you're complaining about to you personally more important than, like, you know, your kid's baseball game or whatever it is or their birthday party coming up or something that's more important to you directly?

[A]

Right. If you're sitting in the stands, like, you're, like, mastering a tweet and you miss your kids, like, you know, double or he.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

How do you even have time to do that if you're not focused on something more important?

[A]

And sometimes we'll leave. I'll notice. I'll find other things to worry about so I don't have to worry about my own.

[B]

I don't know if that's healthy or not.

[A]

Oh, I don't think it is at all. But I noticed I'll even use worrying about other stuff sometimes as, like, a method of, like, escapism from, like, not taking care of the things I need to be taken care of.

[B]

That's a very good point. Next time my dick doesn't get hard, I'm gonna be like. It's just with everything going on in Iran right now, you know what I mean? Like, how can you even possibly expect me to be up right now?

[A]

Wait, you're expecting sex when there are people starving somewhere?

[B]

Okay, I think it's perfect.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, my penis doesn't work. It's obvious. You know, that's. Look, there's stuff happening in Gaza right now, and you're expect. What are you. You're expecting a lot. Okay. You want troops on the ground over here, right? But you don't want it over there. What are we talking about? It is kind of. That's. That's hilarious, dude.

[B]

Yeah. Classic misdirect.

[A]

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[B]

Yeah, I don't think it's. I don't think it's healthy for us. I mean, obviously there's so much good to be learned, you know, But I do feel like it distracts us from a lot of things we probably should be focusing on firsthand.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'll leave that open to interpretation. It's a more generalized concept, but, yeah, I don't think it's good for us.

[A]

Yeah, I think. I think a lot. I think a lot of different things about it. You know what. So what else? Did. What else at C. Amazing.

[B]

You do.

[A]

Have you spent a lot of time in Nashville or.

[B]

No, I mean, I've been performing here since I was, like, 16. Like, Zany's was one of the first clubs I ever got to perform at.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you open up for somebody?

[B]

Oh, a bunch of people. I mean, Tommy Davison to Pauly Shore to Jim Brewer, Bill Bellamy. I've opened for. Oh, Ralphie, obviously. When I was, like, still living in Ohio, he used to let me come down here and do his shows. Right before Christmas is Zany's, and he would, like. I mean, he would pay me, like, 5, 600, which I'm in high school, so that's, like, a million dollars to me so that I could, like. I could go back home and, like, buy my family Christmas presents with that money. Oh, dude, he's, like, the nicest guy. So, I mean, I've been coming here for a while. I love it here.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Good comedy scene, too.

[A]

Yeah, it's good people, man. It's some of the best people.

[B]

I couldn't agree more.

[A]

What? I can't believe you got to come down here and work with Ralphie. That was so wild. What was that like? Did you see him having troubles back then? I mean, that was a long time ago.

[B]

I mean, he was fat the whole time. Right. I never knew him to not be gigantic. So, I mean, there was no. I mean, I was also 16, 17, so again, I'm not really, like, looking for problems. Wow. Yeah, that's at the.

[A]

That's you.

[B]

That's the Brea Improv. Yeah. I think I'm. I'm 17 in this. Maybe 18. I think I maybe just turned 18 in that. But look at that watch.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Fake. Couldn't be more fake.

[A]

I think it. Look, it's supposed to be. What's it made out of?

[B]

Like, looks like a goddamn Ben 10 watch, dude.

[A]

Looks like it's made out of ivory. Is it real ivory?

[B]

No, it's not real ivory, man. It's pure plastic.

[A]

Is that real Tusk?

[B]

Not at all, man.

[A]

Oh, dude, look at Ralphie's smile, bro.

[B]

Yeah, man. I miss him a lot. Oh, he was such a good guy. He started when he was super young, too. I think he started when he was 14.

[A]

Yeah, he was full of black. He said he was so big because a lot of his inside. It had a lot of blacks and

[B]

a lot of blacks in him.

[A]

Black people inside of him.

[B]

I mean, you could fit a couple of black people inside of him. Him.

[A]

He said there was, like, a couple black guys in the front seat and the back seat of him because you know how you give one brother a ride, A couple brothers show like. Like, whoa, who's that?

[B]

Yeah, you know, somebody hopping on the pegs, you know?

[A]

Yeah, dude, that was the craziest thing, bro. I used to bike through the neighborhood, and on my way to school, I go through the black area, and my buddy Jonathan would get on the. On the back, and then, like, sometimes a couple of his buddies would get on the front. Dude. And so I was just this little. Just, like, white little engine that could.

[B]

Dude, you know, just, like calves just pumping.

[A]

I think I can. I think I'm just sitting there. Yeah. And they used to call me the N word bus. That's what they. That's what they call me. When they saw me pulling up, they're like, oh, here come your bus. And they'd all jump on, dude. And I'd have to get, like, five guys to get. You know, help them get their education or whatever. And I was like, I can do it.

[B]

Get their education. Like, you're a public service, bro.

[A]

If I didn't get them there, it was like, 11 more blocks of school. If I didn't get them there, they wasn't going.

[B]

They stop at block eight.

[A]

Oh, bro. Yeah, yeah. One or two dudes got off, bro. We never saw them again.

[B]

That's so funny, too.

[A]

So that was wild, bro. But, yeah, Ralphie was like. Ralphie was one of a kind, bro. I can't name somebody else that's like, Ralphie, can you really?

[B]

No, man. I really wish I could see how he would have navigated, like, comedy today, because it's changed so much in just the 15 years that I've been doing it. And watching him. I mean, not give a fuck isn't the most articulate way to say that, but, like, he was just so unapologetically himself and people with it. Dude, I didn't. I. I had never met anybody who didn't like him.

[A]

Oh, dude. I remember I broke down when he passed it, like, really hit me hard.

[B]

Oh, same, man. That was arguably my first, like, mentor in comedy. He. I was. I wasn't even. I think I'd Maybe just turned 16, and he was coming to Youngstown, Ohio. He was playing A theater up there? No, I'm sorry. It was Cleveland. He was doing Hilarities up there. And this was like when Twitter. Like, you could. You could reach anybody on Twitter. Everybody was so accessible. So I, like, tweeted at him. I was like, hey, I'm this kid in Ohio, and I'm doing comedy now. Can I open for you at Hilarity? And he was like, yeah, you know what? Fuck it. Come on down. But my mom ruined it. She.

[A]

She.

[B]

Well, because she had no experience in this whatsoever. I mean, to her, this is just a grown man inviting her son up to Cleveland.

[A]

Right? This is like pedophilia or whatever.

[B]

Yeah, she had no idea. I mean, I had been doing comedy or hum.

[A]

Humorous pedophilia.

[B]

Humorous pedophilia. Maybe five months I've been doing stand up, so I didn't know anything either. So she's asking, like, where do I park? Do we need to buy tickets? What time do we need to be there? Where do we need to go? Do I need to talk to anybody? I ended up asking him so many questions on behalf of my mom. He was like, hey, man, I actually. It's actually not going to work out, so he can't. He canceled on me. And then maybe six months later, he was doing Youngstown and he let me come up and do that. That was like my first theater show. Paid me $100 for it. It was nice.

[A]

What did you. Did you hold that against your mom?

[B]

Oh, I'm like. I was devastated because to me, I was like, this is gonna be my big break. You know what I mean? I'm gonna be this famous comedian after doing one guest spot in Cleveland.

[A]

Oh, but that's all it takes, dude. You get three minutes of a video, somebody bringing you up as you get to bring Ralphie up. Anything when you're that age.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

Bananas.

[B]

I know. It would have been awesome. The theater show was very cool. I ended up. Actually ended up meeting Tony Hinchcliffe's mom

[A]

at that show in Youngstown.

[B]

Yeah, she was just like, yeah, I have a son who just moved to la, is doing comedy out there, opening for, like, Jeff Ross. I didn't think anything of it. I didn't. I didn't know anybody moved to la. And he was like, you fucking know my mom.

[A]

And why did. Why was she at that show?

[B]

She was just a Ralphie fan.

[A]

No.

[B]

Yeah, it was totally, totally random. I was just taking pictures of people after the show, and she was like, yeah, my. My son lives out there. He said his mom still has like, the piece of paper that I signed for her, she kept it even after all those years.

[A]

Oh, that's pretty cool. So crazy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I forget. He's from Youngstown. Huh? Dude. Was it a pretty urban show?

[B]

No, dude. Youngstown was so white. It was so white, dude. But I mean, this was also. When he was doing. Ralphie was doing this bit about the N word, and I think it. I think it made it into one of his specials where he was basically trying to make a point that if you desensitize the word and make it mean something different. So he was like, I think we should name the most delicious flavored cookie the N word. That way you say, like, I love that. Oh, I see that. You can say it more optimistically, but this was, like, a mostly white room with a few black people, but it didn't matter. Like, the joke was just great across the board. Like, he was for everybody. His crowds were so eclectic. Oh, and I love coming up with that. I never wanted to, like, pigeonhole and play to, like, a specific audience. I'm like, if he can appeal to everybody, like, that's the main goal.

[A]

Yeah, dude. Well, yeah, just to be your. I think to try and. Try and be as close to your truth as what it is. And I think Ralphie was that guy. He was just, like. He loved, like, being accepted by black folks and white folks. He loved bringing them together with humor, and he loved just, like, being able to kind of be welcomed in that space. Because to be in that space also and navigate comedy, it's important because you have, like, a, you know, a responsibility, something. But you can bring people together. If two people can laugh at the same joke, that's a big thing.

[B]

I couldn't agree more. I think sense of humor is so important. Dude.

[A]

Dude, that's so cool that you got to have some of those moments with him.

[B]

Yeah. When I first moved to la, he used to pick me up. We'd go to, like, a diner. He'd make me order, like, three entrees, and I was like, is this for you? He was like, no. Whatever you don't eat, you can take home with me. Now you have, like, groceries for your week? Yeah, I have leftovers for it. The nicest guy, man.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I know, I know.

[A]

Dang. That's big, bro. That's a big heart. He was mostly heart. Heart and brothers inside of him. Yeah.

[B]

Mostly hardened brothers. He was one of those people that, like, I wish I could have got to share what I get to go through now with him, because I knew him from, like, so, so young. I knew somebody that I looked up to.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just to give his perspective on. See what advice he would have had, you know?

[A]

Yeah, dude, that was a huge loss. What did he pass away from exactly? Did he have pneumonia pretty bad?

[B]

I think it was Covid. I think he had early Covid.

[A]

I just want to get clear on that.

[B]

It was not covered. I'm pretty sure it was a heart attack. Yeah. Cardiac arrest.

[A]

Ralphie made out of cardiac arrest caused by hypertensive cardiovascular disease. The Clark County, Nevada coroner officially ruled his death as natural at the time. He was battling pneumonia at the time. That happens a lot, Ralph. He had a heart attack. His lung collapsed.

[B]

I mean, that lung was exhausted. I mean, God damn, dog.

[A]

I think I can. I think I can. I think I can. Dude, we gotta get these brothers to school. Dude. That was his long. Dude. Oh, damn, bro.

[B]

He would love that joke, though. He would love that.

[A]

Oh, he would love it, bro. Dude, honestly, I can. I'm not even joking. I can feel him smiling right now. That's one thing, bro. I believe that there is this tr. There's this, like, between space and time. Like, if we say, like, ralphie, we love you and we miss you and thank you for all the times you made us laugh, I believe. I think he can feel that somewhere.

[B]

I think so.

[A]

So I think that there's like a. Like, I think there's a way that you. Like that you can transfer like a feeling or like a hope, you know, through space and time, you know? I don't know.

[B]

No, you can call it prayer, you can call it whatever, Whichever angle you want to come from. I think it does affect things.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And here's the thing. Even if it doesn't, isn't it so much better to just believe it anyways?

[A]

100.

[B]

Isn't life just better to believe it? Yeah, I mean, I feel the same way about fucking bigfoot. Just cooler to believe he's out there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Dude. Is he? Probably not, but it's so much more fun to think maybe he is.

[A]

Dude, what about the guy that just was on Joe Rogan. That's on eight famines. I think he was a Navy seal. Can you bring him up? They saw an eight foot big. They said eight foot. That's pretty big.

[B]

Well, how tall is Victor Webignana? He's got to be close.

[A]

But his little ass. He would be a. He would be kind of a punk

[B]

in the bigfoot community to runtime.

[A]

I mean, he would be. I mean, they would respect him for sure. He more of a Slender Man.

[B]

Oh, you with Slender Man? I mean, I don't with him, dude. I, I, that's my. That's my lane dog. I love All Spooky.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that's right. Do you. You bought all this? You bought the spooky. You. You invested in Ed and Lorraine's?

[B]

Yeah, Their home museum.

[A]

Wow. Yeah, dude, that's right, dude. That's where you live. You live in Rhode Island? In Rhode island, yeah.

[B]

Yeah. But their house is in Connecticut, so it's just. It's down the street, hour and a half drive, something like that. It's awesome, man.

[A]

How did that come to pass, man? I know some of this might be old news.

[B]

No, no, no, it's not. A lot of people know that I'm even into this stuff. My friend and my business partner, Elton Caste, he and I started doing, like, he had been doing ghost hunting on YouTube for. Oh, God, probably close to, like, eight years now. And then I kind of came aboard about five years ago, something like that. We've been, like, around the world to some of the most haunted places. It's so fucking.

[A]

You have?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

We had Sam and Colby on here talking about that before.

[B]

Those guys are awesome. Yeah, those guys are sick, dude.

[A]

One time I went to dinner with Rogan. I go meet him. Sam and Colby, are they like.

[B]

He's with Joe?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Shut up.

[A]

Blew my mind.

[B]

Yeah, man. They're good dudes.

[A]

I was like, what the are y' all doing here, dude?

[B]

Smaller world than you think.

[A]

Oh, they're like the, like, spooky, in sync kind of.

[B]

It's like.

[A]

It's kind of what they seem like a little bit when you meet them, you know?

[B]

Yeah, man. They're handsome for no reason.

[A]

Yeah, it's like, oh, you're handsome. And your ghost hunters, they're another. They're a couple Justin Tuckers, dude. That's who they are.

[B]

You can't even see bangs in the dark. There's no reason to even have good hair like that.

[A]

I. It's just dude bangs. That's an onomatopoeia bang.

[B]

I'm talking about hair, man.

[A]

Take me through a little bit more of that. So you move. So you. So first you. Why did you move to Rhode Island? You said you wanted some land.

[B]

Yeah, I wanted land. Mainly. I wanted. I wanted some land. I wanted a city that is convenient for travel. And so, like, PVD is like my Burbank Airport, and then Boston's like my lax. If I have to, have to. Have to go direct. Okay.

[A]

So that's Providence in Boston Airport. Yeah.

[B]

And then I wanted some kind of a comedy scene. And Providence has the comedy connection there, which is a fucking great A club. They've got a couple of good theaters there that I'll do, like our holiday toy drives at and stuff around the wintertime. And then they have a. There's a ton of open mics. There's a bunch of don't tells out there. So, like, when I'm home and I want to work stuff out, like, there's no shortage of stage time at all.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So, I mean, it kind of just checked all the boxes. It's awesome, dude. So peaceful. It's so beautiful. Like, it's quaint. It's got. It's got everything I need. Like I said, the airport's nearby, comedy's nearby. Target's eight minutes away.

[A]

How far is it from the airport to your house?

[B]

17 minutes.

[A]

That's good.

[B]

Yeah, it's not bad at all, dude. And I mean, we're in the cities all the time for work, right? Like, we're always touring. I'm always in New York. I'm always in LA or Miami, Chicago or whatever. Like, when I'm not there, I just want peace. Like, that's what I actually have.

[A]

What made you pick that? I mean, Rhode island is just an interesting place.

[B]

No, absolutely.

[A]

You know, it's kind of like. It's kind of romantic. Rhode island to me has, like, this, like, beachy kind of romantic scene, but also like this thug ish sort of scene.

[B]

Well, I didn't know how, like, mob deep it was, dude. I had no. I had no idea. Rhode island was, like, run by the mob for a while, which is pretty awesome. I was doing shows at Mohegan sun in Connecticut, and this is around the time I was, like, just starting to look for, like, maybe I'll get a house someday. My life's starting to change. And I was on Zillow and I found a house like, an hour away. And I was like, I'll just go check it out before the shows tomorrow. And I went checked out. Just fell in love with it. Yeah. So, I mean, totally random. Didn't know anybody there. A couple of my friends have moved out there ever since. They live with me, so it's kind of a nice little compound.

[A]

Oh, you got friends living with you?

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

Have you had to kick anybody? I don't think. What's that been like? You guys splitting wiener pills out there? What are you guys doing out there, bro?

[B]

It's like you live There, that's good. To hit both on the head is pretty impressive. Yes. And yet. Sven, we're rationing up there, brother.

[A]

Oh, yeah, dude. Now I will say this. If the wiener pill factory ever closes, dude, there is going to be. The market is going to be hot for those, bro.

[B]

Oh, my God. It's the new ques. You think they get better with age? I didn't even think about that. I'm going to sit on a couple, put some in my safe. Yeah, in a little time capsule.

[A]

Give one of your grandson one day, huh?

[B]

Hey, eat this.

[A]

Your diaper won't fit. Yeah, that's ridiculous.

[B]

Dude. I kind of love living with the homies. It's. It's nice. I mean, the house is big enough that, like, my boy Kyle lives upstairs. I live downstairs. Like, there's days I don't even see him. Yeah, we'll meet together in the kitchen for like an Uncrustable around 4pm that's about it. Dude, it's so peaceful.

[A]

It's just chill when you're there. Like, what types of things do you get involved in? Do you actually have enough time to take off when you're there, or what's that like for you right now? I know you just had it. I saw you guys were filming and you were filming in Vancouver. How was that?

[B]

Yeah, I was in Vancouver for like seven months last year.

[A]

No way.

[B]

Oh, dude. Within a week I had to move. Like, I didn't think I was gonna get this role at all. And then they called and were like, hey, you. You got it. Need you to move to Vancouver. And I was like, awesome. It was Friday. They're like, need you there Monday. And I was like, oh, okay. I mean, things can happen that fast.

[A]

Did you have touring dates you had to cancel and everything?

[B]

I only had to cancel a couple for film dates, but luckily they let me keep as many of them as I could, which is important to me.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. Matt Rife among 10 cast in Netflix's FTX series. And this FTX, it's about crypto. It's about the cryptocurrencies.

[B]

Yeah. Do you remember, like, is that Paul Rudd? No, it's not Paul Rudd. Which one? Which one do you think is Paul Rudd? Which one of those?

[A]

Bottom, middle.

[B]

But you think that's Paul Rudd?

[A]

Does it look like him to anybody else or just me?

[B]

That's going to be just you, not a ch. I wish Paul Rowe was in this. He's a fuck. He's fucking great. Oh, somebody's Instagram. You Thought that was that guy.

[A]

I don't know. Dude, I need some help. I'm still fine.

[B]

No, don't sing your way out of it, man.

[A]

Your way out. I'm just saying, bro, things happen sometimes visually for people. I think some of those wiener pills got fucking got my optics off, dude.

[B]

Got some side effects.

[A]

Yeah, some side effects.

[B]

Some lingers.

[A]

Yeah, bro. Can't see. Yeah. Imagine you took so many wiener pills, you just don't. The side effect is you can't get celebrities right anymore.

[B]

I don't think that's that bad.

[A]

You eat like Beetlejuice. You're like, hey, what's up, Shaq?

[B]

Dude. I met Shaq, by the way, for the first time. I did a thing with. With Burt for the Netflix festival.

[A]

He's.

[B]

He really is that fucking big. He's gigantic, man. Also one of the best senses of humors of like a non comedian I've fucking ever met.

[A]

Really.

[B]

Dude, he's funny. Loves a good joke about himself, man. You know, Burt was doing the whole, you know, the whole shirt takeoff thing backstage for this promo video and Shaq took his shirt off and I was like, he did?

[A]

Damn, he jacked.

[B]

Yeah, man. Dude, look how ripped.

[A]

Yeah, man. Sometimes I like to. I like to reminisce about summertime. Summertime, baby, it was hot. And mom would try to make the best out of things, though. And she said one day, she said, I'm going to take you all to see the world's biggest ant Hill about 70 miles from us. And so we sat there and we weren't really excited, but we was curious. And sometimes that was enough in the summertime to get you out of the house. And mom didn't know, but I'd snuck me a little deviled egg in my pocket so I could get. Had me a little snack. I'd snuck a little de. Down in my pocket with a piece of ice next to it so I could keep it cool in there. And we got to that ant hill and it was. I mean, you couldn't even imagine how big it was. You need. You needed two people to imagine it at the same time. To even. To have the imagination of it. It took two imaginations. And they had all types of ants in there. They had ants, they had step ants, ants once removed. They had cants, they had ants. It just couldn't do it anymore. You know, they just said they was dealing with impairments or high blood pressure. And we were about 95 minutes into the tour. We'd been, you know, was coming around the East End of that ant hill and. And I'd been bit probably 20, 30 time by now and. And they had a little rest area, a little bathroom area. I said, I'm gonna sneak off behind these toilets and have me that deviled egg, baby. Had me a little cut of that de that I had in my pocket and I reached in there. Those ants had picked my pocket clean, brother. I don't know how much devil was in that egg, but it wasn't enough to keep those ants away. So we had some times out there, man. And they were challenging and they were exciting and they were adventurous and that's summertime, you know. Anyway, cheers to Mountain Dew. Tastes like America. Tastes like summer. So you were up there in Vancouver, you. Was it an enjoyable experience? Vancouver's awesome. It's.

[B]

Vancouver's beautiful. I had a good time with that. The being a part of like that pedigree of a project is awesome. Anthony Boyle and Julia Gardner are the leads of it and they're just such fucking great actors.

[A]

Really.

[B]

If they're not nominated for an award for the, for the show, I mean it's robbery. They're so, so talented. To, to like get to like learn from people like that day after day for seven months was just an awesome opportunity. It was so hard though. Like the dialog was just not something I was familiar with. Like it's all about crypto shit. So like every line I'm having to like google what I'm even saying.

[A]

Oh really? Was that intense?

[B]

Oh my God. So obviously memorizing the lines was a lot more difficult than just like a day to day conversation. Yeah. But it was a good challenge. I love, I love acting. I want to do more of it for sure.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I think so.

[A]

But the thing about acting is it takes away from that stand up. It takes away from that stage time.

[B]

It definitely does.

[A]

It's hard to go because if you have those long days where you having long days.

[B]

Oh yeah. I mean you're on set for sometimes a 17 hour day.

[A]

You can't go do stand up at the end of that day.

[B]

No, but so I mean most of the seven months I was filming Monday through Friday and then Saturday morning, morning I get on a plane to go to a show Saturday night, fly to the next place Sunday and then I'd have to take like a red eye after the show Sunday night to be on set at like 6am Monday morning. So there were some weeks where I'm showing up on like no sleep.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

But if you want to do all, if you Want to do it all. Like, that's the price to pay for it. But also with stand up, like, I've been doing it for, I mean, literally half my life. And I'm so, like, blessed to be in the position that I'm in right now. Like, it's insane. The opportunities I've got to have over the last couple years, that there starts to become more of a question of, like, what. What now with stand up? Like, I've. I've sold out Madison Square Garden. I've done the Hollywood Bowl. It's like, what. What is supposed to be after that? Like, for me, that. That's when, like, the fun of just, like, the. The creative behind it is what kind of has to propel you. Like, I still have, like, these funny thoughts and these stories that I want to tell.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, you have to just enjoy doing stand up. Like, you find something to chase, but it's not always a venue. Sometimes it's just expression.

[A]

Yeah. Dude. I think it's interesting you say that. Like, I've been at a spot right now where like. Like, we had, like, my friend and I made a movie that we did that we made ourselves, right. That came out, and we did the whole process, and then we just taped a comedy special. We did. Like, there's been some things that have just come to an end. Right. And touring and now. And that's all finished right now. Like, for, like, the first time in 20 years, I don't have a tour date on the books, and I don't ever have to have one if I don't want to.

[B]

How does that make you feel?

[A]

It's. It's. It's a lot of things. It's been like, I've had a little bit of depression. I didn't know what it was from. I think some of it was from. I don't. There's not a ton to do. Like, there's podcasting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I haven't really felt like. I don't know, I haven't felt a lot of motivation. And I don't know if some of it's because, like, there's just not a ton to do.

[B]

Like, I mean, do you feel fulfilled in that field?

[A]

Sometimes I feel like, well, what about. Like, yeah, I think part of it's like, yeah, well, what do you. What do I want to do now? What about. Did I just start stand up, like, 20 years ago? And I've just been doing it and, like. And then now what do I want to. You know, I want to keep doing it? I do Know that I want to keep doing it. I don't know if I want to get on stage, like, right now, but there is part of me that's like, yeah, well, what else do you want to do? What else do you. You know, I think I kind of wish that there was like a. Like a family aspect in my life right now, like wife and children, but that's not there. So it's like, that's okay. It's just like, you know, you gotta wait till that comes along. But I do think there's some, like. Like having patience with, like, not the craziest days, and that's okay. And what's gonna be next? And I don't know. Right. I think having patience with I don't know is kind of tough for me.

[B]

No, it's very hard. It's. I mean, it's fear of the unknown. Especially when you're used to working for 20 years. You're waking up day after day trying to create opportunity for yourself, whether it's a tour or whether it's filming something or producing something, developing something. Like, I. I can't take a vacation if I take three days off. I haven't performed stand up in two weeks. I feel like I've forgotten everything. I've been going crazy. I'm only home for, like, two to three days at a time. When I'm there after the second day, I'm like, fuck. I feel like I need to be doing something when I. I don't. Like, it's okay to, like, take a break and just be healthy and, you know, be where your feet are at for a little bit.

[A]

Yeah, I think that's. That's. That. That. That's the tough part for me right now, a little bit. And then I think some of it's asking God, like, well, what is, you know, like, does God want me to be doing what, you know, or just like. I think, you know, I. I go to that place of prayer for, like. Yeah. Where, you know, help me figure out what I. What do I want to do. Because I'm not feeling like a ton of, like. I just don't know. That's the thing. And so it's just kind of interesting,

[B]

you know, I think it's. I think that's totally fine, man.

[A]

Yeah, it's just hard to be, like.

[B]

It's incredibly hard, man. When you've been chasing something for so long and then you feel like you've accomplished isn't the right word, but, like, you at least got to a place of comfortability to where you don't need to be killing yourself every single day. Yeah, it's hard, man. From going from 100 to zero or two, you know? Yeah, it's hard to coast.

[A]

Yeah, it's hard. And you start to. I mean, all the little things come in, like, well, if. Am I doing enough or I'm going to fall off? Or these things are. I have fallen off, like, all. And some of that's all just bull. It's all. It's all. It's all just whatever.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But all those little things kind of come in and you start to. You put each one on the scale of you and be like, what weight does this really have? And sometimes it jumps on the scale itself. Some of these fears or things, and you don't even know it and you're under the weight of it before you realize, oh, I didn't even put this there. This just kind of shows how much

[B]

of it is ego. You know what I mean?

[A]

How much.

[B]

Can I put that aside? And how much is action actually important to me?

[A]

That's the biggest thing is.

[B]

Yeah, no, it's so hard how much

[A]

of this is ego, too? And what. Yeah, what's important? What do I need? And then what is my voice best? How could my voice best even be used moving forward for myself and for like, anything, you know, all that kind of stuff. Does that make sense to you?

[B]

That makes perfect sense. I. I can't thank you enough for even understanding what that feels like. Like, most people just don't get that because there is a fear of slowing down, for sure. Like, I mean, we and I have slowed down a ton. We were doing 40 to 50 shows a month between, like 2024 to the beginning of 2025. I mean, six to seven shows. Six to seven nights a week. Two shows a night.

[A]

Dude, your schedule was scary. Dude, I remember we spoke one time. You were having a slit. You're having sleeping disorder.

[B]

Yeah, man. You called about that. I really appreciate that, by the way.

[A]

You're having a sleeping disorder.

[B]

I have horrible insomnia. Like, I. I literally cannot fall asleep without like the assistance of something. Yeah.

[A]

What? So what. How'd you even a. I mean, I guess it's easy figure out, but did you notice what was keeping you up? Were you drinking coffee late in the day?

[B]

No, no, I don't do any caffeine at all. Like, never, never have. Can't, cannot do it. My brain just like, you know when you're about to fall asleep and then there's just like the. The light switches Goes off. Your brain's just off. Now you are like unconscious. Yeah, I can't flip the switch. I can't do. I can get so close my brain just cannot do it. I'm. I'm not even like, thinking about things. I'm not up anxious about anything. I'm not worried about anything. There's not anything in particular in my life that I'm worried about. Just can't do it. And I've been to sleep doctors. I've got therapists. What's that?

[A]

Did you go to sleep doctors?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And they all. I mean, the problem is they all just want to. They want to just prescribe you medication, but I'm like, do I. That makes me feel even crazier. That makes to make me feel like I have to have help to do the most basic human thing. Feels crazy. So, I mean, I do take something that does help me get to sleep. Doesn't keep me asleep, and I still don't sleep well. But they. Most of my doctors think it's probably just like an underlying anxiety. But I'm like, I don't want to take anxiety medication. I don't wanna.

[A]

Yeah. And are you feeling laying there all horny or whatever? Are you just laying there like your brain running way past that?

[B]

Dude, my dick is like, tapped out. You're done. I'm empty, bro. Falling asleep with Lego hands, dog. Yeah, man.

[A]

What are you saying?

[B]

You never jerk off to try to fall asleep?

[A]

Oh, yes, dude. Yeah. What are you talking about? Probably less than 30 hours ago. I did it.

[B]

We shook hands as soon as I came in here, man.

[A]

Dude, now I have showered once since then.

[B]

I mean, you ever. Do you ever accidentally get a wake up nut, though, when you're trying to fall asleep? Where's that boost of energy on accident?

[A]

Like, what do you mean?

[B]

Like there. If you jerk off in the beginning

[A]

of the day, what is that? Wake up nut.

[B]

A wake up nut is kind of like.

[A]

Tell me about that.

[B]

I imagine it's like a shot of B12. It's like getting into a cold plunge. Like there's just something that kind of shocks your system. You're like, okay, I'm ready to. I'm ready to tackle the day.

[A]

So you wake up and do a nut Sometimes.

[B]

Just depends on the day, you know what I mean? Depends on the weather.

[A]

Wow, really?

[B]

Yeah, man. If it's sunny out, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna jerk off in the gloom.

[A]

Oh, yeah, dude, I don't know. I'm more like emo. I Think I'm that dude? I'm that Tim Burton nut monkey, dude. I think I'm more like, you know, it's cloudy out. We got a 40% chance of nut, bro.

[B]

See, that feels depressing to me. But my dick's not gonna give it its all.

[A]

Well, dude, dude, my dick gave up. I don't think my dick ever even wanted to be a part in me and them in a partnership. But yeah, I agree. But on a sunny day, I'm jerking off. The Lord has blessed me with this beautiful sun and I'm gonna be like, oh, let me show you what I can do.

[B]

Just add a little something to it. You know what I mean? No, I want to be walking on sunshine, dog.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I guess you're right, bro.

[B]

I want to add. I'm trying to ride that. Ride that high.

[A]

Yeah, you're right, bro. There's different avenues to it for sure.

[B]

First, like if you jerk off after like, like I don't know, 7:30pm that's more. That's more of a downer. I feel like that's supposed to relax you.

[A]

That's to close it down.

[B]

Yeah, I think so.

[A]

Well, what did they tell you? What did they tell like what was like. Did you have any. Did you try a CPAP machine? Do they do all that kind of stuff too?

[B]

Yeah, it's not a problem like that, dude. Honestly, they can't figure out the problem is. Which drives me crazy. I'm like, what am I an anomaly? I'm like the one person in the world who has whatever problem I have with my brain. Doesn't seem possible.

[A]

Right? Like you're like awake squats or something.

[B]

A what?

[A]

Awake Squatch. You're like Bigfoot. But it's like for like somebody that won't sleep or whatever. Like have you seen him? He doesn't sleep or whatever.

[B]

I think I have whatever Michael Jackson had. Maybe I have vitilago or something. Maybe that's keeping me up.

[A]

Does that keep you up?

[B]

Maybe.

[A]

Dude, I just saw this thing the other day about when Michael Jackson went to Brazil. Can you bring that up? Dude, he did a lot of things that he like challenged the status quo. Like he wanted to go to Brazil to the favelas to shoot which video was it? They Don't Care About Us. Right here. A song by the American singer Michael Jackson. Initial release.

[B]

Man, he was a beautiful Asian woman.

[A]

Yeah, dude, I saw him one time when I was on stage. We used to do the. There was a comedy club in Westwood at. I can't even Remember it now? It was like Steve Byrne was there all the time. Adam Hunter, like a lot of, like, great, like comics in the LA scene. Dane would come in sometimes, but out the window. I was on stage one time and out the window next door there was a OZ costume shop. A H, H, H S like, ah. And yeah, onomatopoeia, dude. And he was. And he pulled up in a with some security guards and got out and went in there. They. It was like after hours. They let him go into the costume shop.

[B]

No way. Yeah. You would open up the store for Michael Jackson.

[A]

I'm on stage and I see and I know he lived not far away. And it was the craziest thing. I'm like, oh, that's Michael Jackson. And I'm on stage saying, because I can see out this window on stage and the audience can't see. It's from the Second story.

[B]

Oh, they think you're making it up.

[A]

Yeah, they get you, like, you're a. I get some guy yelled. I'm like, whoa.

[B]

Just because I saw Michael Jackson. He's really there. It's not my sleep paralysis demon.

[A]

Yeah, dude. Yeah. So people will just call you just that for anything now.

[B]

Oh, I know.

[A]

What are we talking about?

[B]

Sleep and then.

[A]

Oh, yeah. What were some of the modalities that they. Because. Because I'm assuming you went pretty deep down this hole trying to figure this out.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Because you had to take a break,

[B]

right, at some point, right? Yeah, man, I had to cancel. I had to cancel shows. And you had how many doctors for it? I had like six doctors at some point, all doing different things in different categories or whatever.

[A]

And like, what were they. Were they taking your blood? Like, what were they doing?

[B]

I mean, blood tests. They check, they check all that kind of stuff. I was doing scans on my brain or whatever. They're trying to measure, like, what parts of it don't do and don't turn off that kind of. Apparently I'm normal, but I just cannot sleep, dude. It's awful. But yeah, I did have to take a couple weeks off. I like passed out on the way to a show and people were fucking pissed, dude. I mean, it was like an hour before the show was supposed to start, but, like, I hadn't slept for like five days.

[A]

What was going on? Like, were you manic?

[B]

Oh, incredibly, incredibly, dude. I mean, I'm up like crying between the hours of like 4am and 9am Just because I'm like, I just want to go to sleep. I'm. I'm exhausted. And I cannot. I cannot shut my brain. I'm, like, journaling to, like, my dead grandfather. I'm like, hey, man, send some sleep dog something. Jerking off back to journaling. Jerking off back to doing everything I can. And I was heading to the show and I, like. I, like, nearly, like, fainted and, like, fell into the bushes, and I was like, I. I cannot do this show. Like, I'm. I will not make it. Like, I'm not even gonna be. I wouldn't be able to sit down on the stool. So we had to cancel the show. I'm. I'm laying in the hospital. I'm getting, like, death threats and people, like, in bars in Indiana being like, we hope Matt Rye dies. And I'm like, I'm going to. Dude. Yeah. People did not care. But that's.

[A]

That's like, Morgan Wallen just had a. They had a weather issue for us.

[B]

I saw that. But it's like, he's not. He's not a meteorologist. It's not up to him.

[A]

Yeah. He's doing the best that he can, and people just. They won't cut him a break.

[B]

Let's imagine it was like, strong winds or something like that. I think they were.

[A]

Well, he has a big set and it's like, you know, once if something falls, it's.

[B]

Bro. A tornado touches down in the middle of a concert. He didn't cancel it. Yeah, he's done. Dude.

[A]

It's.

[B]

I think people die at the concert.

[A]

Yeah, it's over. Can't be on stage, you know, Guess I'm the problem. And, like, people are getting hit by lightning. Of course.

[B]

Get twisters touching down. Yeah, of course.

[A]

Yeah. That's great. There's a twist. Just throwing people up on stage.

[B]

Yeah, man.

[A]

It's like people are passing by you in the air.

[B]

You can't please everybody, man. He would have been.

[A]

Sand in my. People just flying. People are wishing they had sand in their boots because they're would be anchored down better. It's like, cut the guy some damn slack, man. He just wants to be. He just wants to do his best.

[B]

He's awesome. You know, I had. I had Kyle dress up as him for the. For the AMAs. AMAs. That was for. Yeah. Because they had me presenting and Kyle's here.

[A]

He's sitting here with us. One of the best photographers.

[B]

Yeah, he does all my videography. Does.

[A]

He does a great job. Yeah. I couldn't harm. Because you had him.

[B]

Well, sorry.

[A]

Well, if something happens, you could outbid me. You're up on the block boy dude. Yeah. Now, look, I'm not saying I'd get one. I'll make sure I get a friend with them.

[B]

I wanted to.

[A]

They say, you can't have them be alone. They're kind of like goats. We'll see about it.

[B]

They have. They have me presenting for. And they have me presenting in a country category. So I just. I wanted to do some kind of bit for it. And the bit was to basically get everybody to be like, oh, my God, Morgan Wallen is here.

[A]

And where was that at?

[B]

This was the AMAs in Vegas. So he shaved his beard completely down. He had just the mustache, and he had this big old mullet wig with a little hat down. He looked just enough like him. The bit was supposed to be that, like, the camera goes to him. It's so obviously not Morgan Wallen. And that was gonna be the bit, but he looked so much like him that people were like, okay, cool, Morgan Wallen's here. Like, it completely fucking failed because he looked so much like him. Yeah.

[A]

Is that online?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think. I think I posted it on my Instagram, I'm sure. And all the country pages and stuff picked it up and everything. They're like, oh, Matt Rev takes a dig at Morgan Wall. I'm like, that's the complete opposite. I'm saying he's definitely too fucking good to be here. He is too good to be here. He's selling out the moon dog.

[A]

Yeah, dude, that's hilarious.

[B]

He gets snubbed on so many of these awards. I don't get it.

[A]

I don't think he cares about it.

[B]

Well, I mean, what is. What does it matter if, you know. You know, you're the entertainer of the year. Who the fuck else is doing multiple stadium shows?

[A]

I agree. It's like, wow, what? This is just for you?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, 100.

[B]

It's just talking about ego earlier.

[A]

Right, right. It's just for the ego of these companies. A lot of these things, you know, they want to keep this idea that some select people get to decide who the. The Entertainer of the year is. It's like, let the numbers decide.

[B]

Oh, 100.

[A]

You know, I couldn't agree more. It's like with the. They trying to give a podcast in awards or something earlier. I think this was this year or last year, and, like, do you want to be in the award? You have to pay to be. You know, you're.

[B]

You got paid to be in consideration.

[A]

They got you gave you a nomination, but then you have to pay to be to see if you, if you, you'll be like one of the top five or whatever.

[B]

That's so weird.

[A]

And it was like, first of all,

[B]

pay us to nominate you.

[A]

It was, that was part of the edge of it, right? You have to pay to continue to be nominated. It's like. And I can't remember who it was, but it was like, but that was part of it. And then they gave the award to like, I think it was Amy Poehler's podcast, which is great, right? She's one of the most talented entertainers that there are. But if you're not giving that award to Joe Rogan, then what are you, what are you even doing?

[B]

Yeah, it's like, right? He wasn't even nominated for it because he didn't self bid himself.

[A]

Right?

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

But it's like giving it to him, like, then what are we. We're just, then we're playing some game of yours. It's not a real thing.

[B]

You say you're playing algorithm in a, in an award show.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, I think a lot of people see through all that. Like, I don't, like, I want. Give me something that's real, that's fine, but I don't want something that's some may. I don't want to live in some made up type of thing where you decide who get, who gets to be this thing.

[B]

And that's why I think touring is so awesome, because it's totally in the hands of like your fans, right? It's, it is literally a physical. It's a, it's a physical. What's. What I'm looking for. It's. It's proving that you have a connection with the people.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Like those people are paying to come see you. That's harder money that they saved up. They got a babysitter. This is their anniversary. Whatever it is, those people are coming to see that. Like, that success speaks for itself. If you can move people to come see you in real life, what does it matter what eight people voted in the middle of Hollywood or Nashville or whatever it is?

[A]

Yeah, I agree. Dude. Dude.

[B]

Like, that's the true success, I think.

[A]

Just let it be what it is, you know? Why? You know, I don't know. I think I also have like a. I get some angst towards some of that Hollywood stuff, so I think I get it. I have a little bit of a chip my shoulder about some of it. I don't even know why all the time. Let's show this clip though, right? Here. And yeah, dude, Morgan could go. Morgan could literally go back in time before, before people even knew him. And he, people like, I heard he's good. You know, he could go to like, like 40 years ago and people somehow like, yeah, I heard, I heard that guy's good.

[B]

Yeah, man.

[A]

Bro, look at this right here. Dude, is this AI? You get accused of being AI a lot.

[B]

All the time. All the time. I'm so AI, bro.

[A]

You are AI.

[B]

I'm in Rhode island right now.

[A]

What the heck? I never even realized it. Dude. Dude, you're like my hot lesbian aunt. That's AI, dude.

[B]

You have a hot lesbian aunt. Yeah, I'll turn her out, dog. Let's fucking go.

[A]

I don't know, you guys look too similar though. Let me, let me show this award show part.

[B]

I think we can all agree that the current state of country music some pretty good hands, right? I mean, just tonight alone we've seen Riley Green, Keith Urban and actually making his very first AMA appearance. Morgan Wallen is here. Morgan fallen dog. He's my little off brand.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

Yeah, man.

[A]

That's hilarious, bro.

[B]

Yeah, we first we realized he looked like this when he accidentally shaved his beard in Europe one time. We were tearing him apart. I caught him failure in heart.

[A]

You did? Yeah. You accidentally shaved yours, Kyle? Yeah, that's hilarious.

[B]

He nicked a little piece of it and then shaved the whole thing off. We were like, oh. I had to fire him for like three weeks. So I can't be around you right now. You got a vulnerable neck.

[A]

That's it. Oh yeah, dude, that's crazy, bro. Dude, that's funny, bro.

[B]

Yeah, it was a decent bit. But then almost everybody when I got home, we're like, oh, no, we actually thought it was Morgan Wallen. I was like, well, that wasn't supposed to be the bit literally at all. It's pretty. He's wearing my tour. He's wearing my tour cut off jean jacket, a red clay strays hat.

[A]

People can't see that good. Dude, I'll say this, if they. Yeah, you had a couple of too many wiener pails. Your vision. A lot of people, a lot of

[B]

people thought he was Paul Rudd. People, A lot of people were saying it.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Voila, voila. Am I able to get one more?

[A]

Yeah, let's get another water. Can we get one?

[B]

Oh, thank you so much. Yeah, thanks, brother. Hey, we got that Michael Jackson thing here. I think I found it.

[A]

Okay. Oh yeah, this looks like it. Let me see. In 1996, Michael Jackson shot A music video in Rio de Janeiro favelas. The world didn't know that this historic shoot was only possible thanks to the approval of a drug trafficker.

[B]

That's awesome.

[A]

Yeah. The government said it was too unsafe for him to come, but he wanted to come and be around the people. Let me see. Rio de Janeiro, 1996. Spike Lee's camera pans across the hills of Don Dona Marta, a favela clinging to the city's slopes. Michael Jackson has come to shoot his video. But the setting, a far cry from Hollywood studios, is no ordinary set. The Governor of Rio is against it. The police refused to set foot in Dona Marta and yet the cameras rolled. That had to be pretty brave, bro.

[B]

Yeah, man. I mean, to be that loved.

[A]

Did it say that they looked out for him?

[B]

I would imagine so.

[A]

So when Michael Jackson arrives in Rio to shoot in a favela, it's not the mayor or the governor who has the final say. It's Marcino, vp. The man hunted by police is also the one who ensures the King of Pop safety. So he was the head of one of the most powerful criminal factions in the city. Charismatic and ruthless, Marcino had established himself in a world where hierarchy is carved out, carved in fear and cemented by weapons. What set him apart from other hill bosses was a strange intellectual depth, almost unsettling for a man at war with the established order. It's just pretty wild that he went and shot that thing.

[B]

It feels like he could have did it in Burbank.

[A]

Yeah, it does. But I think he. Why do we even start talking about this? You remember?

[B]

Not a clue. Oh, I just mentioned that I was wondering what my sleep problems were. By the same thing that Michael Jackson has. You said. Hold on a second. And we went on a 15 minute loop.

[A]

Go back a little bit. The tent shoot. I just didn't want to see that part. The Governor of Rio is staunchly opposed. Brazil is still dreaming of hosting the 2004 Olympics. There's no way they'll let the world see what's hidden behind the postcard beaches to show the poverty, the drugs, the bullet ridden walls. It would be bad pr. Jesus, he went and shot it there anyway.

[B]

That's so gangster.

[A]

He did stuff like that. Dude, we.

[B]

The deal is clear. No money changes hands. No under the table bribes, just an agreement. Wow, that's awesome.

[A]

Yeah, just kind of. Wow, look at that dude. Just to show up there, be that close to people just who like, would

[B]

never have access to you. You know what I mean, right?

[A]

Would never have access to you. And also, there's probably, you know, you get in some dangerous neighborhoods. It's dangerous.

[B]

Yeah, but I mean, it sounds like the people he's getting approval from are like, nobody's gonna.

[A]

With you.

[B]

We would be the people to. With you.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Nobody's gonna fuck with you.

[A]

That's.

[B]

That's awesome.

[A]

That's awesome, bro. That. That's what I'm talking about. That's the people you like. If you're for the. If you're with the people, you're with the people, you know, it doesn't matter what these other, like, little, you know, fancy people say about this or that. I don't care. You know, Know, say this guy's the. The number one award winner. This guy's this. Or whatever. You know, the truth is the truth.

[B]

100, you know, replacement for real life.

[A]

Yeah. Anyway, sorry, I feel kind of. I don't know why, I feel kind of animated about that.

[B]

I like it. This passion.

[A]

Take me on a little bit more of. So. So you bought this. Ed and Lorraine's house. Take me on the house that you bought and. And what you guys have done with it. I know there was, like, articles going around that. That you guys were doing, like, you guys had turned it into a haunted Airbnb where people could go and stay.

[B]

It is essentially that. Yeah, we. We were approached by. By Ed Lorraine Horn's family that they were going to sell the house, and we were the first people that they wanted to offer it to. And obviously we were psyched about it. I mean, we have so much respect and love for their family and what they mean to the paranormal community. So, I mean, to get to be a part of arguably the most prominent piece of paranormal history on Earth, being the Annabelle doll in the. The Warren's house is awesome, dude. And we got the house, like, as is. Like, we have all their old clothes, all their old tape recordings. I mean, there's like, there's hundreds and hundreds of old recordings and letters from cases that never got turned into movies and TV shows and stuff like that. And it's so cool, man. I mean, the house itself, museum aside, is fucking terrifyingly haunted, but there's, like, such a warmth to it. Like, regardless of what they did and who they were and what they were around all the time, like, it still feels like such a cozy family home. So we've opened that up to the public to be able to be stayed in as an Airbnb. And it's attached to the museum, which holds. Oh, God, I think it's something like 700 artifacts or something like that in the museum as well as the Annabelle doll.

[A]

And take me through like just a brief synopsis of the family and the Annabelle Dol. For people that don't know.

[B]

I mean they, Ed Lorraine were the most famous ghost hunters pretty much in the. The history of it. I mean they, they helped, I mean, I guess documented, I'm gonna say a few hundred families and they were spousal.

[A]

They were married.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely, dude. She was a psychic medium and Ed was, was an author and they, they put out a lot of good books and. But they helped a lot of people and they're. I mean, and they are the family behind like the largest scary movie franchises in the world between Annabelle Doll, the Conjuring movies, Amityville Horror, all that good stuff.

[A]

And they. How they help a lot of people. You said they helped a lot of people.

[B]

Well, man, a lot of people dealt with like possessions and haunted homes and a lot of haunted objects and everything. And they would go to help these families with either casting out the spirits via exorcism. Sometimes it was taking an item like the Annabelle doll off of the family's hands and putting it in a more secure place. Stuff like that, that.

[A]

So you have the Annabelle doll now?

[B]

Yeah, it's pretty crazy, bro. It's a pretty white thing to own.

[A]

Yeah, that is, huh? Yeah.

[B]

I mean I. Do you believe in ghosts?

[A]

Yeah, I believe in ghosts, but I get scared about it because it's like, you know, if you go summon ghosts, if you summon like, if you look at it as like the devil. I think there's different ways to look at it. If you look at it as like a spiritual thing, like maybe something that's in between here and there's. But if you look at it as like satanic and you're trying to summon Satan, then that stuff is a little scary. Oh yeah.

[B]

I don't with that stuff at all. Regardless of like there being a demon literally attached to that doll. Like, I don't with it. I'm not hanging out with the doll. That was the crazy thing, people. I mean that that's a very passionate community and it's one that I respect that I'm happy to be a part of. But people thought I was like, because I'm a comedian, that I was gonna like disrespect this doll. They thought I was gonna turn this house into a frat house and Annabelle's gonna be crowd so. And like a stretched out blow up doll.

[A]

Oh yeah, I could see that. Do people Always want to like think about stuff like that. Did you do anything cool with anybody? Like, were you guys able to even like have her like bring her out to have like a tea or something?

[B]

No. God, no. We would never let her out of that box ever. We've only had to move the box a couple of times and even I don't fucking touch that.

[A]

Really.

[B]

I let Elton. Then we have, we have a couple of priests that help with that.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Oh, yeah. I'm terrified of it. Wow. Yeah. I'm never there, by the way. Like, I'm not at that. People thought I was living at the house with Annabelle. I'm never there.

[A]

You're.

[B]

No, I check on Annabelle. Like, I look for racism on Twitter. I'm like, good, it's still there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If it's going to exist, it might as well be like contained, you know what I mean? Nowhere to find it.

[A]

Yeah. Wow, bro.

[B]

It's pretty, it's pretty awesome, man. Do you. So fascinating to me.

[A]

Do you feel like, do you want to create more stuff around like horror genre? Like, is that something you start to feel like? Because you said you're kind of at this space where it's like you're kind of thinking, well, yeah, what else is possible and what else. What I like to do in what direction?

[B]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, on the entertainment side of things, like, I would love to develop some kind of like a horror project, whether it be a TV show or a film or something like that. But I mean, we're also even expanding in that space. Like we're, we're moving the museum and expanding it to a location in Salem, Salem, Massachusetts. This, I think it's gonna be this September or August that it's going to open up. So I mean, there's a couple other properties that we could potentially be buying as well. So I mean I, I'm so fascinated by it. Like it, it is so new to me that I think it's very exciting. It's cool just to learn it, learn about it. And this, this creates a lot of opportunity for people to educate themselves on that world. People are fascinated by it, but they don't know a lot about it. So this is kind of like first hand experience.

[A]

Have you had it like, like a, a supernatural experience of your own?

[B]

Oh yeah, dude. Of all the investigations and stuff. We've done the math scene in her. Heard so many things that like, I couldn't possibly explain. I mean, I've heard my name be said. Like I've, I've. I like EVPs, which is like, the voice recordings the most. Like, to me, that's the most fascinating because, I mean, it's. It's audible, it feel. It sounds tangible. You're getting a direct response to a question you asked. Like, to me, that feels so undeniable. Like, I'm in the room. I know who else is in here. I know this hasn't been tampered with in any kind of way. To me, that feels so as close to undeniable as possible.

[A]

Was there someone you were trying to talk to, or was it.

[B]

I'm trying to think of the most prominent one. We were in. I think this was Mansfield Reformatory in Ohio, I believe. Shout Out Mansfield, actually. They filmed Shawshank Redemption. Yeah. Yeah, It's. It's a really, really cool space. We were in what used to be the old library. We were asking, like, you know, what they're like, what. What did this room used to be here? Loud, clear as day.

[A]

Library. No.

[B]

Yeah. It's terrifying. We were doing some in. In Lorraine Warren's house, in the tunnel that goes from the house to the museum. Our friend was in there asking, like, you know, do you mean us harm? And you hear, if possible, it's crazy like that. But it's still so fascinating to me. Like, I. I'm passionate about it because on a spiritual level, helps kind of reassure me that there is something else. You know what I mean? Like, I. When my grandpa passed away, I had, like, this really big moment of, like, okay, there can't just be this. There has to be something out there. There's no way I won't ever see this person again. So the fact that I can go communicate with, like, other. What I assume are people or spirits of people to me, that brings me, like, a little bit of warmth, knowing that, like, you know, maybe. Maybe I will see that person again. And maybe, you know, maybe everybody gets to see their loved ones again.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Was that. Did your grandpa pass away recently or.

[B]

No, it was. I think it's going on three years this October. Maybe four. Three years.

[A]

Oh, man, I'm sorry to hear that.

[B]

Oh, it's all right.

[A]

That's him right there. He's so young.

[B]

Yeah, man. He was only 67. I know, I know.

[A]

Did he get pretty sick?

[B]

Yeah, man. He had. He had cancer, but it was like they found it out of nowhere. His dogs pulled him on his leash, and it, like, pulled something in his, like, abdominal sl. Like, rib cage a little bit. And it was hurting him. Was hurting him for a while, and it got worse and worse. And he started coughing a lot more and everything. And eventually you went to the doctor, and they were. They did a whole scan of everything, and they were like, dude, you've got stage four cancer. Like. Like, lungs black. Yeah. So it was. He was. He was perfectly healthy, like, five months before he passed.

[A]

Dang.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Was that scary? Like, were you guys really close?

[B]

Yeah, that was definitely. That was definitely like, my best friend. That's. That was like my. A father figure growing up and everything.

[A]

It was, yeah.

[B]

Yeah, definitely. I mean, I spent every weekend of my childhood with him. Every single weekend.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I definitely wouldn't have got into comedy if it wasn't for him.

[A]

Dude. Yeah. It almost looks like your daddy's so young.

[B]

Yeah. Gee, that's. It looks like a Zika, baby.

[A]

Let's go dome on him, bro. Blm, dude.

[B]

I know. Yeah, yeah, he. He loved comedy. He's the one used to take me, like, the open mics when I was, like, 15, and he would pay, like, the $5 ahead to, like, show, like, bring your show. He would, like, buy five tickets.

[A]

Would he go perform?

[B]

No. God, no.

[A]

No. But he would get you into it?

[B]

You mean, like, physically or, like, why did he.

[A]

He took you over there because he knew you wanted to do it?

[B]

Yeah, like, he. He thought I was funny. Like, we would. We would kill each other. Laugh every weekend, my entire childhood. So it was really cool. He got to see me. He got to see me sell out a comedy club. I think it was the Cincinnati Liberty Funny Bone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Before he passed, which I think is the hardest part. It's like you kind of like what we were talking about with Ralphie earlier. It's like, if there was one person I wanted to share all of this with, it would have been him. Like, he doesn't get to see. This kind of sucks he's out there.

[A]

Steve? That's his name?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

What's up, Steve? Shout out Big Steve, my guy.

[B]

Oh, do he love Ralphie, too?

[A]

Did he? Oh, yeah. Oh, dude, that's so cool, bro. He can hear us. I feel him right now. Now Steve's milling around, bro, with his 97 different haircuts, bro.

[B]

That was, like, the shortest his hair ever was. He used to grow down to, like, his butt crack, dude. Total, total hippie hair, man.

[A]

Dude. A lot of people with named Rick have ponytails. You notice that?

[B]

Mostly Ricks and Steves, I would argue.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, dude.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Ponytail is a Rick and Steve, dude.

[B]

It's a power move, dog, bro. Yeah, I'll still, like, I'll Pray to him before every show and everything. Just be like, hope you. Hope you enjoy it in case you guys are watching.

[A]

Amen, bro. That's awesome, dude.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

That's quality stuff.

[B]

I appreciate that.

[A]

I'm gonna pivot a little bit. Some of your comedy specials, your first few came out on YouTube, right?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I put out the first two and then I did a crowd work one on YouTube as well.

[A]

And then did you do one on a stream on a streaming platform?

[B]

Then it was Netflix. Yeah, that did natural selection for Netflix.

[A]

Do you feel any difference? Because, like, one is more of. It feels like it's a. It feels like it's more for the people, like, from, you know, just. It feels like it's. Do you feel any difference between, like doing some that way and doing one for Netflix or I mean, you do

[B]

a special for Netflix for, like, self validation to be like, I made it to what is supposed to be the pinnacle platform for comedy. But I think the difference was the YouTube stuff I did entirely, like, by myself. Like, it was just my friends helping me. Like, I directed the first one that I got Eric Griffin to direct the second one, and even the crowd work one, which was like a totally experimental thing. I literally did it with me and my buddy Elton actually ran camera by himself. It was me and one person did an entire crowd work special. So, I mean, it was exhausting, but it was super, super fulfilling to like, have a hand in a little bit of every piece of the creative for that. So, I mean, I think it was different in. In that sense also. The, The. The reach of viewership, I think is different for YouTube and Netflix is. Not everybody has Netflix. Not everybody likes Netflix. And you got subscription to it versus YouTube. It's so easy to share. Like, I can text you a link. You could watch it right now, and then you could text that link to 10 other people. So I think you actually reach. You have a potential to reach more viewers on YouTube than you might on Netflix.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I guess it's again, like, what does it mean to you?

[A]

Right? Yeah, it's interesting, dude, because, yeah, I got. I got one that's coming up, but I think about, like, yeah, what?

[B]

I like you doing it on Netflix.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And we're just. I'm looking at a cut of it later today, but it's like, would I like to maybe do one in the future that would be maybe just for YouTube. Yeah, that'd be more just for like, you know, I do it myself completely. You know, I don't know. I Just think about that sometimes and what that's like. Oh, no.

[B]

I battle with it all the time. I'm doing my next special at. It'll be towards the end of the year. I can't really say when yet, but I don't. I don't know what I'm gonna do with it just yet. Not 100. Sure. There's different pros and pros and cons, obviously.

[A]

Yeah. And you're at a place right now where you can kind of do it. What. You can do what you choose.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

Which is pretty nice. Yeah.

[B]

I just want to figure out what fits best.

[A]

You got kind of like. Like. Like pinned with, like, being the crowd work. Like, your crowd work started to kind of, like, take clips and make it so that a lot of people are doing crowd work. Do you feel like that that's kind of a true statement?

[B]

Yeah, I would say so. I mean, I definitely wasn't, like, the first one to do it. Like. Like, Schultz was a big inspiration for me doing that. Like, his crowd works. He's amazing.

[A]

Yeah. So good.

[B]

He was doing this thing that even made me want to start doing any of my YouTube specials, where he was doing, like, a new minute every single. Single week that he would post a new clip every single. That's 52 minutes of material throughout. Throughout the year. It was genius. And he was sprinkled crowd work in with that as well. And I was just like, holy. I see the importance of content in this. In the standup market, which I don't think anybody had really been paying attention to. Like, you put out specials, but that's, what, once every year? Maybe once every two years. Yeah, but we weren't, like, comedians weren't being in people's faces all day. Like, you weren't prominent on a platform that people kind of couldn't avoid you, which I think is, you know, prominent for the. For the algorithm.

[A]

Well, especially if you don't have. If you're not pod. If you don't have a regular podcast, like, with podcasting, you do because you just have clips. Right?

[B]

Of course.

[A]

But if not. Yeah, it's hard to find, like, what is that thing without doing a sketch or, like, planning this big thing.

[B]

And that's. That's why I like doing the bit of crowd work that I do do in my show, because, like, it's new and refreshing. Right. Like, it's. I'm not doing the same stories and jokes night after night after night that you have to deliver. Like, it's your first time ever saying it. Like, this is something so new and spontaneous that I think can post online. It's not burning any of my material.

[A]

Yeah, dude, I saw the one where you saw one of your teachers. Is that. Was that one of yours? My teacher? Did you have a teacher that came?

[B]

No, I think that was Trevor Wallace.

[A]

Oh, that was Trevor Wallace.

[B]

I think his teacher came.

[A]

Sorry, dude.

[B]

It's okay. It's fine. Yeah, I'm with you, man.

[A]

I was like, yeah, we can.

[B]

Just kidding, man.

[A]

That's okay, dude. All right, Trevor.

[B]

Dude, I'm not going anywhere, man.

[A]

Trevor impersonated you, though, I think, and was. It felt like he was, like, trying to steal your. It. No, no, I'm just joking. I'm just joking with Trevor, dude. He would never do that. He's the nicest guy.

[B]

I love him. He's very, very nice.

[A]

Is there. I don't know if there's. He is so nice, dude, but did it ever feel like. Like, then you had to be. The crowd were, like, you had to do that.

[B]

Yeah, there's a little bit of that. It's kind of. You know, I talked to Adam Ray about this recently, too, because, you know, he's gotten so prominent with, like, his characters that he does with, like, Dr. Phil and Biden and everything.

[A]

I always stepped into that and done. It's unbelievable.

[B]

Genius. Genius, by the way, to find that's. It's such a specific lane that nobody else has been doing.

[A]

Nobody.

[B]

I asked him. I was like, do you find people coming to your show and, like, just wanting the characters? And he was like, all the time. Like, sometimes I'll be in the middle of a story and somebody be like, do crowd work. And I'm like, I'm gonna fucking get to it if I feel like it. Okay. It's not. That's not all this is. Like, I'm a goddamn jukebox.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's crazy, man. But, I mean, I do it because I enjoy it, you know?

[A]

Yeah. That's like when I was in, like, couldn't eat. When I was, like, doing those wiener pills. Like, it's like, get an erection.

[B]

And you're like, I'm trying, man.

[A]

Give me a few minutes.

[B]

Yeah, Let me warm them up a little bit.

[A]

Yeah, dude. Let me nibble off a freaking chunk of my roommate's wiener pill at an angle so he won't notice it's missing. You freak. They're only freaking 5mg tablets.

[B]

Do you. Do you ever. When you're touring, like, do you ever do any crowd work at all?

[A]

I Do some of it more often now. And I, I really like it. It.

[B]

It's just fun. It's just something silly and spontaneous. It gets a bad rap for people being like, oh, you're just doing it cuz like you don't have the material. That's such a hack response to have to it like that. By what means does that mean that. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, dude. Yeah. Like I was. We were shooting this thing in Lexington a few weeks ago and somebody yelled out AIDS right in the middle of the show. And it was just like it was a woman too.

[B]

Jesus.

[A]

And usually age is more of a guy's thing or whatever,

[B]

so. And what, are you gonna not acknowledge it?

[A]

I know, dude. I was like, oh, that's how bad things have gotten. It's like people just yelling AIDS out, dude.

[B]

That's the other hard thing as well, is like venue wise now. The smaller venue I do, the more people yell out because they want to be the person that like gets talked to. Like they want to be the next clip. I'm like, it. It doesn't work like that. It's usually the least assuming person you talk to. It's probably like you're gonna get the best out of them. It's not like the like the pick me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Person in the back.

[A]

That's true, dude. It's always like that.

[B]

A comedy club is like so intimate. We're all kind of feel like we're hanging out that in like a living room to where it's. Nobody really wants to be like the interrupts. Like that's kind of perfect. And an arena so big that like you. I think they assume they. You can't hear them, so they're not going to waste yelling out like anywhere in the middle ground like a theater. People are like, I know he'll fucking hear me. Yeah, we yell some wild shit.

[A]

Yeah, dude. I think it's like there is this weird thing where you yell because you kind of want to be hurt, but you do not want to be called on. There's some of that energy too for some people.

[B]

Oh, of course.

[A]

Like you want to be a part of it, but you don't want to be a part of it.

[B]

Oh, I love the purse. I love like the, like the wife brought. Brought her husband and the husband didn't want to sit up front. He's like, what if, what if he talks to me? And the wife's like, it's not all about you, Ron. You know what I mean? And then you end up talking to that guy and he's like, this is my worst nightmare and the wife's loving it. I love that dynamic.

[A]

Has it ever backfired? Like, take me on. When that backfired was there. Have there been one that backfired? Like, because. Because when you open it up to the crowd, that's another thing. Suddenly 40 people are. They want to have a. You know, they want to offer a suggestion.

[B]

It's very hard to direct a room full of people who are like, okay, now it's my turn. So, I mean, that. Mean, that does happen quite often. I mean, usually I'm pretty good at shutting it down and everybody can kind of be cordial, but it happens. But you also get duds, you know what I mean? Like you fucking. You interview people, you know, it's like to talk to somebody who you can't hold a conversation with. So, I mean, that happens all the time. I'm not going to post that clip, obviously. So. Yeah, it's not magic every time, but when you do get it, it's such a fun feeling to have that moment right then, right there with people.

[A]

Yeah. Dude, one time there was a guy in his white. He had a wife or girlfriend, whoever it was, had the craziest like. Like tits, right?

[B]

You couldn't think of tits. Okay.

[A]

And they. Well, they were so crazy, I couldn't even. It was hard to categorize them.

[B]

They were so inside of my P.S.

[A]

yeah, just. He's just. Boom, bang. You know, just like some real. Just on a monopias.

[B]

On. Okay, okay.

[A]

Just like some. Damn. Just some milk tonsils, you know, just some like L5s. None. Like you have no cartilage left from holding those up. They were just. Yeah, they were. You could just feel like one of. You could feel one of her vertebrae having trouble.

[B]

God damn.

[A]

Yeah, you could feel it, dude.

[B]

Them Hindenburgs.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she had them damn blimps and front blimps.

[B]

Front blimps.

[A]

So anyway, dude, but they were craziest looking tits. And she. You. And the guy's like. I said, oh, what do you do? He's like, you know, I stock vending machines, you know? And I was like. And what do you guys put him. And he's like, muscle milk, you know? And he says, muscle milk. But then you see where you think he's getting the milk from. His wife's just sitting there all quiet with the craziest tits, like, oh, yeah. Acting like she doesn't have crazy tits or whatever. And she was wearing a little bitty hat. You ever see somebody's like, pins a hat on their hair and acts like it's a real hat brooch.

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

Yeah, it's a brooch. It's a little. It's like Toy Story hat. Like, bitch, what are we talking?

[B]

Did you address them? Did you address the titties?

[A]

Yeah, I said, well. What? I said, well, where are you guys getting the milk from?

[B]

Right?

[A]

And that was just. And, dude, there was nothing else through the rest of the night that was like. There's just something about that thing that's in the moment where. And it was just simple. There was nothing I really had to do. Do.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

It was just.

[B]

Sometimes it just presents itself, bro. I was in Philly. Yeah, this was. This was in Philly. And there's a guy sitting front row. He's got, like, these, like, slack pants on and just had the most amount of dick sitting in the front of his pants.

[A]

Like a conglomerate.

[B]

Yeah, man. Yeah.

[A]

Like, it's like a seven dick pile up right in his own pants.

[B]

Melted. Eight or nine dicks on his dick. Like, it was. It was so prominent, it stopped me in the middle of a story, and I was like. Like, you got. I took the camera off the cameraman's shoulder, zoomed in on it. The placement. It looked like he. The front of his pants, like, it was so much dick. It. It honestly ruined my night.

[A]

I was.

[B]

I was upset. I was insecure for the next, like, four to five minutes.

[A]

Yeah, dude. Oh, when somebody shows up with that stepdad or whatever.

[B]

Stepdad is such a real. As somebody who had a stepdad, it's such a real thing. I was so mad I wasn't his.

[A]

Oh, For a few years, man, I'd have been afraid to come out of that thing, though, that stepdad. You can't. That's why he doesn't have any kids, bro. A kid wouldn't make it out of that thing, brother. This is it right here. Biggest dick ever.

[B]

Is this a video of it? It's probably a video. Yeah. And put your dick away.

[A]

Put your dick away.

[B]

I know. Cameraman. Don't zoom in.

[A]

You don't have to.

[B]

I can see it, dude.

[A]

He's smuggling. Unbelievable.

[B]

Cameraman just, like, wouldn't get the shot of it. And I was like, hold on.

[A]

Why wouldn't he?

[B]

Sometimes. Sometimes they're, like, three inches away from somebody's face, and I'm like, get out of there. You have a zoom.

[A]

Hold on.

[B]

It's tangled up in his dick. Hold on a second.

[A]

Hold on.

[B]

Look at this thing.

[A]

You're moving the camera, bro.

[B]

Look at that thing, man.

[A]

Big bro got that front yard dog.

[B]

Remember an alien when it's coming out of her stomach?

[A]

Yeah, that's what it looks like. Like, wow.

[B]

Yeah, that's a lot, man. Turtleneck dick is just a different confidence.

[A]

And he's wearing a turtleneck, too. Yeah, no.

[B]

Yeah, man. He knows what's up.

[A]

That's insane. That's Christmas dick if you wearing a turtleneck.

[B]

Holiday hog.

[A]

Tight pants, brother.

[B]

Yeah, he knew.

[A]

He.

[B]

You got to know that's not comfortable. There's no way that's.

[A]

Oh, no, that's all tight, brother. That's your.

[B]

So glad my dick isn't that big. Like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So glad about it.

[A]

Yeah, same, same.

[B]

But yeah, man, you get some. Some weird stuff like that.

[A]

What about. Are you married? You're not married?

[B]

No.

[A]

No.

[B]

Single.

[A]

Okay. And do you start thinking about getting married or anything like that, or do you even think about that kind of stuff? Or, like, does your mom bug you about that? What's your mom doing in your life these days? Because she was giving you a hard time about working for Ralph Coffee? What is. Does she still like a. Have that managerial energy or now she kind of trusts where you're at?

[B]

No, she's. She's so happy with where I'm at. Dude. I just got her her second house. Yeah, the first one just wasn't working out and she was like, by herself in the middle of nowhere, Georgia. And she's like, nobody comes and visits. I'm like, no, you live in the middle of nowhere. So I moved her out to. To Colorado, where my sister lives now. She has her. She's there with the grand. Her grandkids and stuff. My little sister's got kids.

[A]

That's nice. Oh, your sister has a couple kids?

[B]

Yeah, she's got two daughters.

[A]

Oh, that's your mom right there. What's her name? April. April. What's up, April?

[B]

You know, it's so funny if you look at mom, Christina from Iowa is on the top thing. She's actually more prominent than my. My own mom in most of these.

[A]

Really? That's her right in the middle.

[B]

Christina, top right corner. The blonde hair.

[A]

And who was that, your ex?

[B]

No, no, no, no, that was.

[A]

That's. God.

[B]

Arguably probably my. The most famous crowd work thing was she's like this really hot mom, actually grandma who lives in Iowa. And I met her on stage. She gave me like, these cookies and this, like, really sexual shirt and everything. And I. Bro, I was like 10 minutes into the show when this happened. I Did like an hour and 20 minutes just talking to her. And it was crazy, crazy good time the entire time. Like we were. Great chemistry, great banter. The crowd was loving it. But at the time you can only post a 10 minute clip online on like Instagram and stuff. So I had to edit it all down to that. Like the whole show was that. Which never happens, by the way. Like, that's sounds like I didn't have material ready for the show, but like it was just such a really cool in the moment thing and what stupid. It's got over like, I'm sure collectively over a couple hundred million views.

[A]

Dang. Yeah. Really?

[B]

Yeah, it's awesome.

[A]

No way. She's awesome, dude. That's the best for. Where in Iowa was that?

[B]

At Des Moines? The funny bone there.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I mean sometimes crowd work is. It's different every time. That's the fun, you know, if you're going to talk to, you know, super hot mom or biggest dick you've ever seen or somebody, you know, somebody all crumpled up in the corner, you don't know.

[A]

Yeah, it is kind of great. Oh, there she is right there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, it is great. Dude, with crowd work, there's something really special about it.

[B]

It's just real and in the moment, you know.

[A]

How do you get the. How do you get your cameraman now is you have a special cameraman who's want. Who's like sitting right there. Kyle. You do it all.

[B]

Kyle, he does all the. He does all the crowd work stuff.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

Yeah. Then we do a little collaborative editing system together. Yeah, he shoots all of it. This is, man, the comedy clubs. That feels like a lifetime ago. This is probably three and a half years ago. Maybe something like that.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Maybe that feels like a different lifetime ago.

[A]

Are you off tour right now? Are you going back out? Is there any new places that you're going that you're a little bit like

[B]

new places this year?

[A]

Not like new countries.

[B]

We just got back from Europe, which is really awesome. We did, we did England. We went to Romania. Romania was awesome.

[A]

My friend, Just you the second guest in a row that's talking about Romania.

[B]

Really?

[A]

My friend just quit playing basketball. My friend Patrick was playing basketball over there.

[B]

What?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He's white.

[A]

White guy. Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Can I, can I tell him the story? Okay, so if we get to. We have like five weeks in Europe straight. This is night one of us landing in Romania of the whole trip. Night one.

[A]

Five weeks is a long time.

[B]

Very long time. Night one. We're like, oh, we're gonna go have some drinks. It's Friday night. We'll see what Romania is about. Kyle gets roofied and robbed the first night on tour.

[A]

How do you know you got roofied, Kyle?

[B]

I woke up in an ambulance 50, 50 minutes away from the hotel at 9:30 in the morning. My chain was gone, my camera was gone, and they spent three grand on my debit card. Yeah, he couldn't like, remember. And they had to like carry him through the lobby and everything. He was up, dude. It was pretty funny.

[A]

That checks out.

[B]

Night one, dude night. Well, it was like we got back to the hotel at probably like 4am or something like that. And we're like, hold on. Kyle wasn't with us. I checked the location on my phone. He's still at the bar. We thought he had left earlier. So I'm texting with him. I'm like, yo, like, do you want Jackson and I to come? You know Jackson McQueen?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

He's so, he's so funny. He's hilarious. I was like, do you want Jackson? We'll come. Come back and get you right now. And he goes, no, it's all good. I'm heading, I'm heading back to the hotel right now. I was like, are you sure? He goes, yeah, I'm heading back to the hotel, go to sleep. I wake up at 9:30 in the morning, my phone's ringing off the hook and I'm like, fucking what? They're like, yeah, Kyle's in the back of an ambulance right now. It's like, no fucking way.

[A]

Did you communicate with him, Kyle? No.

[B]

I could barely open one of my eyes and I was. I knew I got beaten up by strippers. I remember that. That's all I remember.

[A]

Do you have a grill in right now?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, that, that's interesting, bro.

[B]

We're sitting in the van, day one after his recovery and it's all quiet and we're, we're trying to ask him little things about. We're trying to give him some space. And he just goes, goes. I think those strippers were mean to me. It was so somber. We're like, what? He goes, yeah, I think they pushed me down a lot. It was one of the meanest things I've ever heard.

[A]

That's wild to say that specifically. I think they pushed me down.

[B]

It was heartbreaking.

[A]

Yeah. And all you got was that grill. The worst part is, dude, and just

[B]

the not taking the grill is hilarious. I'm gonna leave him something.

[A]

But, dude, dude, you did a show In Romania? Yeah.

[B]

Romania was awesome. We had two shows there. So cool. I guess comedy is like a new growing thing. There's like, people are starting to go and perform a lot more if you get an opportunity. They were a awesome crowd.

[A]

I would love to go back and do they speak? Is there. Is there enough English spoken there?

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Everybody. Everybody there speaks English for the most part. Oh, yeah. Dracula's castle.

[A]

Is that close to Estonia? I wonder.

[B]

I mean, close. Ish. I think. I think Estonia is a little bit further north, I think, because we had

[A]

Ari Maddie and he's Estonian. Yeah.

[B]

Du. Ari is the best.

[A]

He's. He's a. He's a tornado of comedy, dude.

[B]

Europe crowds are fucking awesome, man. I love performing overseas.

[A]

Thousand miles apart. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Good time, dude.

[B]

Sweden was awesome. Oslo was really cool. I love performing in England and the crowds are so much fun.

[A]

Oh, dude. Yeah, we had some good. We did some good spots over there. Ireland.

[B]

Ireland's the best show of the tour. Every time I go there. They're great. Scotland was amazing. You can't crowd work in Scotland though, people.

[A]

Yeah, why not?

[B]

Can't understand them.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I'll say something. They'll say something back and I don't understand it. And the crowd is like. They're cooking me, dude. And I have no idea with what they're saying.

[A]

They're. Yeah, it's legendary over there. What's up? What's up? What's in the news, dude? Anything in the news that we wanted to look at?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

What's anything good to talk about? Oh, what do you think about these data center stuff? Do you think about that kind of stuff? Like. Because that's kind of crazy.

[B]

I. I had to help stop them from putting in one in Rhode Island.

[A]

No.

[B]

Where I'm at. Yeah. They had to like have a whole town hall meeting and everything like that.

[A]

You went to it?

[B]

I couldn't go, but my friend went and spoke on my behalf, which was very nice. She was very passionate about it. And I mean, she had my approval. I. I couldn't agree with her more. It just. It's. It's so peaceful out there. It's gonna. It's. It's just up what we have, man. I mean, I don't know too much about them. I'm not even gonna pretend like I do. Yeah, for sure. But the one thing, the most prominent thing that stood out to me because it wasn't gonna be that far from my house house was there was going to be like a non stop Humming coming from the building. I was like, I don't want that. I love the. I can hear birds outside, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Well, especially. Yeah, like something just humming in the distance, dude.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

New York passes data center moratorium and consumer protections as environmental and housing proposals stall

[B]

so what data is going into these things?

[A]

Why. Yeah, why do the data centers need to be so big? Do we have anything about that? That this is perplexity. Data centers are built for continuous operation. Power, cooling and network pass are duplicated so a failure of maintenance event doesn't drop. Workloads having parallel systems and physically separated paths. Well, my thing is just this. So we're already keeping a lot of data. Right. Like our phones, we record stuff all the time. It's on the cloud. The amount of data that they must want to store now must be astronomical compared to what we're doing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So that's what I don't understand. Unless we're going to go into, like, a surveillance state. Right. Where. Which is. That's what it feels like a lot of times.

[B]

Feels like they already are.

[A]

Right. Because then they're gonna have to record around the clock, everywhere. Everything.

[B]

Yeah. And it's gonna put these. Rant there's gonna put these storage places in random places around the country. That's so strange to me.

[A]

Yeah. Aaron Brockovich. I know. Was just talking about it. I want to get someone on to talk about some of those data centers just to learn a little bit more about it and what's going to be going on. Yeah. Let's see what this says right here. This is tech billionaire Oracle CEO Larry Ellison confesses a dystopian AI mass surveillance network.

[B]

Citizens will be on their best behavior because we're constantly recording and reporting everything that's going on.

[A]

And it's unimpeachable.

[B]

The cars. The cars have camera, you know, cameras on them. I think we have a squad car here someplace. But those kind of applications using AI if we can use AI, and we're using AI to monitor the video. So if that altercation had occurred, that occurred in Memphis, the chief of police would be immediately notified. It's not people that are looking at those cameras. It's AI that's looking at the camera. No, no, no.

[A]

You can't do this.

[B]

It would be like a shooting. That's going to be immediately. That's going to be an event. That's immediately an alarm is going to go off. It's going to be.

[A]

And we're going to.

[B]

We're going to have supervision.

[A]

In other words, Every police officer is going to be supervised. It's going to be wild.

[B]

What the man.

[A]

I mean, if you play that beginning part again, just play the first 20 seconds. What does he say? This one part. Part.

[B]

Citizens will be on their best behavior because we're constantly recording and reporting everything that's going on.

[A]

And it's because we are constantly reporting. It sounds like they're like. Like they're going to be reporting to him. You're gonna. That's the thing.

[B]

It's so weird, dude. I mean, do we have to be watched all the time?

[A]

I don't know how we can stop it now. That's the scary part.

[B]

Why do we need it? I. I mean I understand they're pushing the agenda of safety, but like, like we have to. How, how much safer is it going to get? Is it just going to be for accountability, you think?

[A]

I think that's it's like. And also there'll be a level of control there because.

[B]

Yeah, I would say so, yeah.

[A]

If you don't do certain things, then you're entering this space. Well, you didn't op. You didn't do things the right. The perfect way. This exact way.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So then what are the repercussions of that?

[B]

It's weird, dude. I don't even.

[A]

I don't even want to.

[B]

To live in this time, to be honest.

[A]

I know it feels just kind of

[B]

like it's too futuristic. It's too. It's too invasive. When would you have liked to have been alive if you could like pick a couple of decades to have been like oh, prime you.

[A]

I think probably born in. Cuz I think you. But part of you does. I feel like, want to kind of know. It's weird. You want to know how it. You want to be a part of the world in the sense you want to like you. You hope that the world ends well cuz otherwise you feel like what's the point? I think that starts to happen.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You for me anyway, I'm like, you want to. I feel like for past generations I bet it felt like, all right, let's leave it better.

[B]

We're.

[A]

We're all building towards something. And then now suddenly I feel like we're all standing in a culdesac and we're like what the are we building towards anymore? Our grandparents are like, like doing only fans now. They're like, we're checked out. We don't care. It doesn't even matter, dude. Like everybody, like I do feel that way. Some of that energy is like what Are we doing.

[B]

I don't know what it looks like a generation after this one. You know, I have no. I have no idea what that looks like. Yeah, I. I think I would have. I would have liked to have been born maybe in, like, 60. 1960.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Grow up in the 70s, and then you're a young adult in the 80s, and the music culture alone for that would have been fucking awesome. It's great for film.

[A]

Everything was magical.

[B]

I've heard good things.

[A]

Yeah, everything was magical. And then you get to see how dystopian it's getting and be like, yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad I'm leaving, dude.

[B]

I feel so weird being, like, the last generation of people who wasn't, like, chronically online. Like, I didn't. This isn't young for some people, but, like, I didn't get a cell phone until I was, like. I think I was almost. Almost 15, something like that. It's like I still got the childh of, like, I got the privilege of boredom. Yeah, I think that's good for your brain to be a kid and have nothing to do and have to figure it out how to entertain yourself. Go. Go make up a game. Go play pretend.

[A]

Go walk around and go throw something through somebody's window.

[B]

Yeah, we have to go break some. I think that's good for you.

[A]

Yeah, your mom came over. You're like. You got arrested. You're like, yeah, I. I don't know.

[B]

What else was I supposed to do?

[A]

Yeah, I threw something through someone's window. I didn't know it would break. Break just like that. Like, you just didn't know anything.

[B]

And I think that. I think it makes you a better person.

[A]

Oh, dude. So now wandering around, just bored, hoping something would happen. A car drove by. You just watching it go by.

[B]

Just watching it, dude.

[A]

Laying on your floor, ang, like, hoping your mom wouldn't come home soon, but also hoping your mom would come home soon.

[B]

So somebody's around. Yes, here's some racket. Yeah, I think it's good for you, man. And there's that. That that's gone on. People will never have that again.

[A]

Taking a thousand naps. If anybody came to the door, you would go talk to them. Even if it was like a, you know, a. Like a registered sex vendor. Whatever. Didn't even matter. You keep the chain on to keep them out, but you still at least talk to them because it was somebody to talk to, of course.

[B]

And they were charming, you know?

[A]

Yeah, they were good at what they did.

[B]

I remember having to like, ride your bike across town to see if your friend was home and they weren't burnt and you just had to go back. Yeah, dude, across town, you biked miles. Oh, across grass, dude.

[A]

It was. Yeah. Oh, do it. Yeah. You'd find a new way to go. What is this video right here? We'll watch this and we'll get you out of here, man. I know you got a show tonight.

[B]

Okay. You heard about these Flock cameras popping up?

[A]

I have heard about these Flock cameras. This is. These are start. These are like some of the early cameras are going up everywhere. Mass surveillance, public safety. They are linked to the new AI data centers. Let's play it.

[B]

You won't believe the stickers I found.

[A]

Somebody is putting these buggers up on every Flock camera in town.

[B]

Not enough people know that these are not just license plate readers. These Flock cameras build profiles on individuals

[A]

that are walking by and in vehicles.

[B]

They use things like gender, clothing, behavior,

[A]

and even biometrics to build profiles on you.

[B]

For their Nova platform, even integrating social

[A]

media profiles, email data in places that you go.

[B]

And Flocks data feeds directly into Palantir's

[A]

Gotham, which already powers ICE deportation.

[B]

What if this is GTA 6? Like, they're scanning everybody in real life, in the real world, everybody's gonna be in the game. That. That's why it's not out yet.

[A]

That first of all is the excuse that they need for why it's not out. That would be absolutely amazing, dude.

[B]

I mean, they just change a little feature about you, but you're like, you know, that's you.

[A]

But in the future, they could do that. Some of these companies could then license your existence somehow or where you had in certain areas into a video game like that. And that gets kind of crazy, dude.

[B]

That's pretty sick.

[A]

Yeah. Let's finish out here. Let me see. Flock cameras have exploded across the US because they're cheap turnkey crime fighting tools that let even small departments tap into a national vehicle to tracking network. Flock sells subscription packages that include the hardware cellular backhaul. Their cameras continuously capture plates, timestamps, and vehicle metadata. Push it to Flock's cloud where cops can run searches and set alerts on hot lists. Flock has marketed directly to police, HOAS and private business, centralizing all plate reads. By 20, 24, 25, the company said it had cameras in roughly 4,000 plus cities and over 5,000 communities.

[B]

What?

[A]

So? Bro, it's here.

[B]

Oh, it's already in. Yeah, it's done.

[A]

That's the new Annabelle, dude. And she's out of the box. Matt Rife, man. You have your new. You're going to tour.

[B]

I'm on tour right now. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. Stay golden tour.

[A]

Amen, bro.

[B]

We're going through the rest of this year, so. Should be fun. Yeah, there's some fun cities ahead.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

I'll be back here in Nashville in October for Bridgestone.

[A]

Okay. Yeah.

[B]

You're in town for. You got to come through, dude.

[A]

Dude. Yeah, I will be in town, my friend. Then is somebody dying or getting married? What's happening in October?

[B]

Same thing.

[A]

October 10th. Yeah, October 10th. Something's happening.

[B]

It's my grandpa's birthday.

[A]

It is?

[B]

That's creepy. Dang, that's creepy. Shout out. Steve.

[A]

Steve. Steve. Bro. Yeah. Thank you. Congrats, everything. FTX is coming out. You don't know when yet?

[B]

The FTX series comes out this December. And.

[A]

Is that what it's called?

[B]

No, it's called the Altruist. The Altruist, that'll be on Netflix. And then we've got the movie with Owen Wilson coming out in October. So be. It's a nice little end of the year.

[A]

Oh, Rolling Loud, the movie. That's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, that's crazy, bro. What do you play in this movie?

[B]

I play his. His work colleague who happens to also be at the festival. He's like a big festival head, and he helps him look for his lost son in the festival. So it's just me, him, and his girl, Christine Coe, who's a hilarious actor. She was on Dave.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So we kind of help him look for his lost son.

[A]

Amen, brother. Bro.

[B]

Yeah, dude.

[A]

Best of luck, man. Congrats on everything, dude. Thanks for stopping by and spending some time with me, bro.

[B]

I know we've been trying to figure this out for some years now, so thank you for finally making the time. I appreciate it.

[A]

It's a blessing, man. Your life seems active and busy. It seems like you stay active in your own life as much and just, you know, show up for yourself and. And get things done. That's exciting. It's inspiring.

[B]

Thank you, man. I appreciate that.

[A]

Yeah. It's the truth, Matt. Rife.

[B]

Thanks, brother. Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel, I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone

[A]

oh but when I reach that ground

[B]

I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones but it's gonna take.