#669 - Riley Green

Summary

Podcast Summary

Podcast: This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von
Episode: #669 – Riley Green
Date: July 15, 2026
Guest: Riley Green (Country musician and songwriter)

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Episode Overview

Theo Von sits down with Alabama-born country singer-songwriter Riley Green for a meandering, funny, and thoughtful conversation. They discuss small-town Southern life, working the land, the ins and outs of country music and touring, the value of authenticity, getting older, the challenge of change, and plenty of off-beat stories from their upbringings. Throughout, the episode is lighthearted but peppered with meaningful reflections on pride, work, and relationships.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Importance of “Doing Real Work” (01:47 – 05:58)

• Riley shares how driving a bulldozer, clearing land, and physically working on his property in Alabama keeps him grounded.
  • Quote: “That’s the most relaxing thing in the world. Get on a bulldozer and go out there and start clearing a road.” (01:51, Riley)
  • He appreciates seeing the tangible results of a hard day’s labor, compared to the never-ending nature of music and touring.
• Theo reflects on his own experiences doing manual labor and the unique satisfaction it provides.
  • Quote: “There was something real rewarding about it.” (06:26, Theo)

2. Growing Up Southern—Family, Roots, & Small Towns (04:13 – 19:26)

• Riley grew up in the Jacksonville, Alabama area, from a multi-generational family, surrounded by a small, tight-knit community.
  • Fond memories of his grandparents, working with his dad (a carpenter), and the role of “Green’s Store,” a legendary local shop.
  • Quote: “All four of my grandparents lived in the same town. So I saw my grandparents every day.” (19:26, Riley)
• The influence of his grandparents led directly to his hit song “I Wish Grandpas Never Died.”
  • Riley talks about turning his great-grandparents’ house into a Friday night music hall—seedbeds for his musical journey.

3. Finding Pride and Meaning Amid Accomplishments (62:04 – 79:55)

• Theo and Riley dig into what actually gives them a sense of fulfillment. For Riley, it’s not necessarily awards or accolades.
  • Quote: “For me, I look at a lot of the things that happen as, like, checks… not that I had the goal… but when I… get the award… it’s like a little bit of relief, but not necessarily like, ‘I accomplished this.’” (76:33, Riley)
• Riley feels most proud of things like his farm, providing for family, and seeing friends/family enjoy what he has built.

4. Humorous Stories & Southern Quirkiness (08:13 – 40:44)

• Theo recalls crashing Riley’s uninvited surprise party, leading to long riffs about the awkwardness of surprise celebrations.
• Stories about growing up with strict parents, buying shoes at the “Green Store,” and the questionable choices in naming babies in the South.
  • Quote: “How do you look at a baby and name it Roger?” (27:54, Riley)
  • Lighthearted jabs at “Jeremy” having a garage (24:26), and small-town quasi-mythical figures.

5. The Evolution—and Authenticity—of Country Music Careers (63:17 – 68:40)

• Riley discusses the pressure and excitement of his career trajectory, the challenges of evolving as an artist, and staying authentic despite changes in the industry.
  • The increased role of social media in how artists’ past work “lives forever” and shapes how they can or can’t evolve their image.
  • Quote: “The best thing you can be is different—not necessarily from something you’ve done before, but from everybody else.” (67:20, Riley)
• Theo compares it to the comedy world: if you try to pretend too much, audiences can tell.

6. Bar Fights, Party Stories, and Touring Tales (41:07, 48:48 – 53:06)

• Riley and Theo share classic wild tales from the Floor Bama bar:
  • Riley once accidentally broke a guy’s arm arm wrestling (15:14).
  • Observation: Chick fights at bars are far more intense than guy fights.
  • Notable exchange on fighting attire, “get ready with me” parody (“If you’re going to get in a fight... what would you wear?” 44:32).

7. Hunting and Nature in the South (50:28 – 56:00)

• Turkey hunting stories—difficulty, tradition, and technique.
  • Quote: “I hunted turkeys for two or three years before I even got close to killing one.” (51:49, Riley)
• Discussion on why certain birds are hunted/eaten and how Southern food culture evolved.

8. The “Get Ready With Me” Bit and Social Media Satire (38:30 – 39:40, 41:22, 44:02)

• Both riff on the viral “Get Ready With Me” trope, spinning it absurdly (e.g., “get ready with me while I go fight,” 44:07).
• Theo and Riley collaborate on a future skit idea—“good old boy get ready with me.”

9. Navigating Relationships & Fame (81:24 – 85:07)

• The difficulties of building genuine connections due to fame—especially dating.
  • Quote: “It’s really not that easy to meet a girl when you’re doing what we’re doing... gets tough to know who you’re meeting for what.” (81:42, Riley)

10. Expanding Beyond Music: The Voice & Other Projects (11:20, 85:07 – 89:55)

• Riley talks about being tapped as a coach on The Voice alongside figures like Adam Levine and Queen Latifah.
  • The balance of being “mainstream” vs. rooted in country.
  • Funny ideas about how The Voice chair should work (“you should face the contestant, then turn away when you dislike it”). (87:49)
  • Admission that being on the show puts him in front of a whole new audience outside traditional country music.
• Influence of side projects, acting, and balancing opportunity vs. personal life.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On working the land:
  “When you get on a tractor like that, you’re not on your phone... I love that about construction work, but that’s something you don’t get in what we do.” (05:23, Riley)

• On small town Alabama:
  “All my granddaddy’s and their brothers used to go out and play Domino’s in the morning before work... that’s cool, hadn’t changed much either.” (17:00, Riley)

• Theo on manual labor:
  “I just loved whether they had me painting, moving seed... there was something real rewarding about it.” (06:26, Theo)

• On surprise parties:
  “You literally got invited to my podcast, my surprise party, last minute, walk in, take two pieces of cake, and leave.” (09:31, Riley)

• Authenticity in art:
  “I think fans can tell... if you’re not authentically what you act like you are, people are going to figure it out.” (68:19, Riley)

• On pride:
  “I feel more proud that I could put my parents in a nice house... than anything I’ve ever bought myself.” (77:52, Riley)

• On name choices in the South:
  “How do you look at a baby and name it Roger?” (27:54, Riley)
  “My granddaddy’s name was Buford...” (28:01, Riley)

• On women fighting at concerts:
  “Girl fights are always way more serious than guy fights.” (43:02, Riley)

• On “Get Ready With Me” parodies:
  “Get ready with me while I go over to Snooker’s Tavern and beat somebody’s ass after dinner tonight.” (45:38, Theo)

• On The Voice:
  “I sort of told them I got what they wanted—you know, they want somebody that’s sort of funny, sort of dry, that cuts up... and that’s how I got the job, just goofing off, doing this.” (85:42, Riley)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:51 – Riley on bulldozer therapy and outdoor work
• 04:13 – 19:26 – Deep dive into small town, family, and formative experiences
• 15:14 – Bar stories: Riley breaks a guy’s arm arm-wrestling
• 27:54 – Segment on old-fashioned and odd Southern baby names
• 38:30/44:07 – “Get ready with me...” social media satire bits
• 41:07 – 44:50 – Bar fights and why women’s are “way more serious”
• 50:28 – 56:00 – Turkey hunting, rural food culture
• 62:04 – 64:27 – Pride, achievement, and pressure
• 68:19 – Authenticity, social media, and modern careers
• 81:24 – 85:07 – Relationships, dating, fame
• 85:07 – 89:55 – Becoming a coach on The Voice, expansion into TV
• 102:05 – 102:29 – Details about current tour, supporting artists

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Tone & Style

• Language/Tone:
  Laid-back, friendly, and irreverent with a heavy dose of Southern humor and storytelling. Moments of sincere reflection woven into the banter.
• Chemistry:
  Theo and Riley bounce naturally between serious topics and playful riffs throughout the episode, sharing the comfortable rapport of two old friends.

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For Listeners

This episode offers a blend of comedy and deep, authentic talk about music, family, and life’s meaning. It wanders, but in a highly entertaining and insightful way—perfect for listeners who appreciate a conversation as unpredictable as country life itself.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Nice. When I get home, too, to get on a bulldozer or something and go clear, man. That's the most relaxing thing in the world.

[A]

Is it?

[B]

Yeah. Get on a bulldozer and go out there and start clearing a road.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And you don't realize how far you've been until you get off it to walk back to your car, you know? But it's just pushing trees over and clearing fields. God.

[A]

Just. Yeah. Except the animals are like, here comes. Look. We love his music, but this guy's.

[B]

Yeah, that's. That's pretty fair. Of course. I'm making like a field. I'm gonna plant some food for man, you know.

[A]

Okay. So, yeah, so some of it's just rezoning for them.

[B]

Yeah. That's all.

[A]

Yeah, all it just.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like, look, guys, we're kind of.

[B]

I'm not going to put a parking lot or a Kmart there. It's going to be like, you know, there's a field. Yeah. I'll leave him some shade trees. It's fine.

[A]

Sorry, man. Yeah, I'm acting like you're the bad guy.

[B]

I was like, you made Me, the. The developer on FernGully. It's like burning the woods down. Like, I'm not doing. I'm making it nicer. Like, I dug a lake. Like, throw him somewhere for him to swim.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah, man.

[A]

Oh, God, that'd be beautiful.

[B]

You made me the man.

[A]

Yeah, dude. I freaking. Yeah, I made you the bad guy.

[B]

You made me like, the bad guy on the. What's the movie with the blue people?

[A]

Avatar.

[B]

Yeah, you may be that guy. It's, like, just destroying the forest, and I'm, like, making it nicer for the animals.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're down there. Repurposed. Yeah, man. God, I gotta. I gotta get in prayer. I gotta get in the word.

[B]

I mean, what you gotta do is get on a bulldozer.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Come down there and get on a tractor. You figure your life out down there doing that.

[A]

Do you?

[B]

Well, what do you do? What is your thing that. That you say is your biggest disconnect from all this, but what do you do?

[A]

I don't. Honestly.

[B]

That's the problem, right?

[A]

I don't have an immediate answer. I would probably say. I would say probably working out and going for a walk, probably.

[B]

Okay, well, I. That's. That's definitely one of them. But, like, you're still thinking about. Yeah, you're still in it. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah. I mean, if I go for a walk with a good friend, it's. That's more like just kind of like contemplating discussing stuff. But I agree. Having some. Having, like, it's time for me to kind of, like, find some other outlets and stuff, you know? And I just got off a tour, and so that's like, this is one of the first times where it's like, well, who am I? You know?

[B]

What do I do with myself?

[A]

Oh, both of them. Who am I? And what do I do with myself? Like, you know, not in a. Not in a whiny way, but it just, like, kind of hit me like that. It's like, okay, so it's time for me to, like, kind of embrace some of those. But just so people know, I think we started in you. You said you have, like. You guys got a couple thousand acres down there in Alabama.

[B]

I bought. I've got 1780 right now that all touches. But I bought it in, like, little pieces here. Every time I go down there, I'm calling my neighbors up, see if anybody wants to sell anything. But my granddaddy, Buford's brother, my Uncle Bill, had some property that I grew up running around on. It was 141 acres. And I bought that first and then just since then I've grown it and it's just a never ending project. I mean, you go out there, I'll go home. And it kind of keeps me sane on the road too, because I'll be thinking about man when I get home. I'm Gonna take the D3 over here and clear this one field off or make this road around the outside of the property so I can go in here and ramadig a lake over here. So you're just constantly creative because there's, I mean, everything you do is making the land more valuable.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know, so.

[A]

And you have a crew that does that with you?

[B]

My dad and his brother used to frame houses. My dad was a carpenter and he's 70 now. So I mean, they're both pretty old and kind of beat down. So I let them work around the farm and just, you know, run tractors and all that. And they love that kind of work. And I got a couple of buddies I used do construction work with that help me out out there. So there's always something going on. But when I get home, like, you know, when you get on a tractor like that, you're not have your phone. I mean, you forget about it, you know.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[B]

And then going out there and. And you get caught up in what you're doing. And I've always enjoyed the kind of work where you can see what you did at the end of the day. I love that about construction work, but that's something you don't get in what we do. Like, yeah, there's a lot of accolades and big moments and highs out of it. But as far as, like what we do never has an end. You never finished with what we're doing. Like, there's a little things you say, okay, well that went well. Check or go to the next thing. But like being on tour is, you know, my tour doesn't end. We just tour till holidays get here and people stop coming to shows and we start back around February, you know, so it's nice to have something that you can finish.

[A]

Amen. Yeah. Yeah. Having that justificate, like just like looking back, seeing something, the day is done, the sun, you know, I'm saying like that you can feel the evening coming in. You're like, okay, that's time. Yeah. I used to work on a, on a soybean farm over there in near like Vidalia, Louisiana, right over on the Louisiana, Mississippi border over there. And that was. Those are some of the best days

[B]

man, it was tough work, but you, like. I still go back in a frame a little bit with my buddy build out just to remind myself what it was like.

[A]

Yeah, dude, I just loved whether they had me painting or just, like, moving seed or just, like, cleaning spray rigs. Just whatever it was, man. It was just something like. Yeah. There was something real rewarding about it.

[B]

And you could also, like, I could be hungover or whatever it was and be having a bad day, and I could get through a day at work doing that. But this. You have to be happy every day. Yeah. If you got to at least act like you are.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Stage and, you know, be up. So I got to be enjoying myself because everybody's there to see me, and they want to see that. So it's. It's nice to be able to go over and kind of cut loose on something like that.

[A]

Well, look, welcome to this podcast, dude, because I've. I've spent probably a third of my life whining on this about.

[B]

So I'll wine with you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What do you want to complain about? Yeah, dude, I know one thing I'm going to complain about on this podcast. You have no coffee maker here.

[A]

Oh, yeah, we don't have a coffee maker.

[B]

I'm sending you one. There's only right here.

[A]

You were in my kitchen? Yeah. You saw. Don't have one.

[B]

I looked. I looked through every closet in your house. There's not one here. I look through all your stuff.

[A]

Look, I ain't making coffee in the closet. I'm not doing anything in the closet. Dude, I'm out.

[B]

Yeah, you're out.

[A]

I like women, but, yeah, the last thing I'd be doing in there. Dude, if I'm in the closet so long that I'm making coffee in there,

[B]

it's in a while.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah, I guess I'd be me, but sometimes you have a tough time picking out an outfit or whatever, and I just say, outfit. Let's keep it moving.

[B]

Outfit. Yeah. Shirt.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Picking out a shirt.

[A]

It really is a shirt.

[B]

What made you pick that one today?

[A]

I tried on another one. I took it downstairs. It was just as a little. Felt a little more formal. And then.

[B]

That feels right. I feel like that. I see. I took it like. You wore that because I was coming. Well, I appreciate it.

[A]

I feel. This just felt right, man. Dude, you remember I saw you. Good to see you, man.

[B]

Yeah, see you, man. We're doing this interview backwards.

[A]

Thanks for coming. Yeah, yeah, dude. This is how it goes in here.

[B]

By the way. I'm Rally Green. Yeah.

[A]

Ladies and gentlemen, Riley Green.

[B]

This past weekend.

[A]

Thanks for coming, bro. I appreciate it, dude.

[B]

Talking about doing it for a while.

[A]

Yeah, we have been. And this is good, man. And I saw you remember I went to your surprise party. You remember that?

[B]

Yeah, But I don't think you were invited, technically. Yeah. I think you came in and got a piece of cake and left, honestly, is what happened.

[A]

Okay. That could be true. But I remember, though, like, you weren't in a.

[B]

You.

[A]

I don't think it's a prize.

[B]

I hated it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't like surprises.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I. I always.

[A]

Because I walked in, I don't feel your sister. Somebody's like, you know, sometimes over there at losers, they'll be like, yeah, you know, it's a. Riley surprise party. You know, we got to go.

[B]

Don't say sometimes. Like, it happens a lot. That was one time that happened.

[A]

Good point.

[B]

Sometimes rally's having a surprise party. No. And it'll never happen again.

[A]

But sometimes you'll be there, and they'll be like, this is going on, Mayor. So we got all. So people will make like the. The Mecca or whatever. The. The. The. The. You know, the journey over to your bar, which is right next door.

[B]

Had to go in the back door. You had to sneak up the back.

[A]

I'll come to the back. But you were heading in. So they're like, yeah, it's a surprise party. Don't say nothing. I'm like, I'm not saying nothing. I don't even known that good, you know? And then we all walked in, and people y. Surprised us.

[B]

People thought you did. You were at my surprise party. I thought you planned the whole thing.

[A]

People thought I was in it.

[B]

I. I'll give my man.

[A]

I picked out the cake, you know?

[B]

Yeah, it was great. I mean, you ate some of it.

[A]

I took two pieces. I took two pieces.

[B]

You okay? This is no joke. You literally got invited to my podcast, my surprise party, last minute, walk in, take two pieces of cake, and leave. Yeah, that's what happened.

[A]

Amen, brother.

[B]

That's cool.

[A]

When we got in there, I was like, well, if he don't even want to be at a surprise party, then I'm gonna get my camel head on.

[B]

I just don't need to be surprised to enjoy something. Like, for me, I don't get to see my family and friends that often. I'm traveling all the time. So if you gathered everybody, just tell me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we'll go over there and we'll do. It's enough that they're there. Yeah. You know, I. I give my manager a hard time because I want to ACM award in 2020. And they call me and they're like, hey, you need to do a zoom with the label. And so I come. I don't have the computer, so I go over to their place and they got it all set up. And there's my president, my label, and the vice president, everybody. And I'm like, all right, what are we talking about? And then Keith Urban comes on. I was like, hey, Riley. I'm like, hey. He's like, you want to come to what are you doing on August 8th or whatever? You want to come to the ACM wars? I was like, yeah.

[A]

And why is he asking you?

[B]

Well, because he was the host, I guess. But my point is, why didn't they just tell me? And I could have been like, oh, like, surprise. And there's all these articles about how rally Green one ACM award and couldn't care less because I just was confused. Yeah. So just get, you know, don't. I can act surprise.

[A]

Right. But yet.

[B]

Tell me about it.

[A]

Yeah, tell me a little earlier. If you tell me 10 minutes early, I'll just be like, yeah, I'll like,

[B]

oh, yeah, that was good. I believe that you did how you looked when I got here. That was how you looked when I walked in. Oh, you're coming. What about me and you? Trying to schedule this was really stressful for everybody involved. You know what? Everybody on my team's like, so are you doing? I was like, hell, I don't know. I think we just said we should do this.

[A]

Well, we were supposed to do it. Here's what was happening. We did. You and I decided we're going to do it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Your schedule also got different because you now are heading out to la. Cause you're working on the Voice now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So that started to happen. And then there was supposed to. We were supposed to have. Conor McGregor was supposed to be on, and there was this looming moment where it was like.

[B]

Like me. Okay.

[A]

I didn't. His schedule was super tight. His head.

[B]

You know, you can lie to me for the sake of this.

[A]

Oh, I'd lie to you, but I just soon tell you the truth. It's just right now it's easier.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But there's just like a lot of little moving parts.

[B]

If he comes while I'm here, are you gonna make me leave and come back another time?

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Maybe he'll bring coffee. Honestly, if he comes and realize you don't have coffee, he Might leave, bro.

[A]

I didn't know you said this much stuff. I always feel like you're kind of a quiet guy, man. That's my bad read on you.

[B]

You know, I used to talk a lot when I got coffee. You know, I'll probably start fading here soon. What, so you want me to do the interview? What?

[A]

No, I got things.

[B]

Okay. I didn't know if you, like, studied up or whatever.

[A]

Oh, yeah, man. I studied up, dude. I got a good plan. I got a. Yeah, I got a strategy ahead of me. You know, it's mild, but it is what it is, you know?

[B]

Listen, if you. If you start to run out of stuff, just give me the. And I'll.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah, dude. Yeah. If I need some help, I'm gonna. Definitely. It'd be nice. I get a little help from Raleigh Green.

[B]

Everything's good.

[A]

Everything's pretty good, man. What was I doing this morning? I was texting with John Party this morning.

[B]

He's like, that dude.

[A]

He's going out on tour. He Interesting guy.

[B]

I've been a big fan of him for a long time.

[A]

Unique voice. Like is. Everything's a. Just kind of like an interesting guy.

[B]

He's. He. I've always used him as an example. When I signed a record deal and started having songs on the radio, I think the toughest thing to do is to be commercial enough that radio will play it and then also still unique and cool enough that it's a good song and not just cheesy. He's always done a good job of that. He's had a lot of. A lot of big songs.

[A]

Agreed, man. He's. Yeah, he's an authentic dude, man. And he's.

[B]

I know you put pictures of people. We're talking about him.

[A]

He's an interesting.

[B]

I've got a picture of me opening for him in Mobile, Alabama, at the Soul kitchen from, like, 2006.

[A]

Is that where you started? I know you started in Alabama, but at the Soul Kitchen. Is that like a pot? Is that a popular spot? I'm not familiar with it.

[B]

It's on Dolphin Street. I mean, yeah, it's. It was like one of the clubs you come up playing, you know?

[A]

Got it.

[B]

It was a big deal for me to play it. I opened for Chris Cagle there, Corey Smith there, John Party, several people. And then eventually I got where I was headlining it and then moved to the Sanger and then went down and played at the Florida Bama and did

[A]

the Sanger's nice over there.

[B]

It is cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

You play that Florabama. During spring break time, I played Flor bama for ever.

[B]

$150 a show. Play for four hours. You get one free drink per break, and you play 45 minutes at a time. And I remember John McGinnis, that owns the floor of Bama, is a good buddy of mine, and he asked me to come down and play during spring break every day for three weeks. It was like, alabama spring break, one week, LSU one week. You know, the LSU folks love it up there.

[A]

Oh, they love it anywhere, dude.

[B]

It's true.

[A]

Anywhere where something is fermented enough where they can make alcohol out of it,

[B]

it's fermented down there.

[A]

They love it.

[B]

I had to set my own tent up on the beach, and it was like I'd be in the shade for about an hour and then have to move it, you know, Nobody down there listened to me, and I played every day from 12 to 4.

[A]

Wait, you'd play under a tent on the beach?

[B]

Like a. Like a tent? You camp with like a, you know, a tailgate intent.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I had to set my own speakers up and everything. I played from 12 to 4 every day. And then I would go back to the river house across the road where they would keep the bands. Bands would come in and play that night, and I would go party with them. And I did that every day for three weeks, and it about killed me. Definitely took 10 years off my life

[A]

playing that early shift.

[B]

Well, yeah, and then staying up all night, too. I would, like, mosey down to the beach and get there in time to play at noon the next day.

[A]

Oh, I'd be partying down there, dude. Oh, I remember partying down there. We. We buried a guy in the sand. I don't know if he's still there. I don't. I haven't heard. Problem?

[B]

Kind of Weekend at Bernie situation.

[A]

Look, dude, I'll say this. He wasn't that great of a guy anyway.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To be honest with you. And I'll know that, and I'll tell his daddy that. But, yeah, we've had some. I mean, who didn't have some time down there?

[B]

Some pretty epic stories down there. Broke a guy's arm one time, arm wrestling in the floorbound.

[A]

For what? Just for fun or for money?

[B]

No, I mean, I didn't do it on purpose, and I wouldn't for money. I was playing a show and I took a break and I go over on the side, and these guys were like, man, you're pretty big, old boy. Let's arm wrestle. And that's for whatever reason. That's what we grew up doing. Yeah, my dad and his brother and all them. And I beat two or three guys, and they were like, man, we're gonna get somebody to. And they brought this dude over. He was probably 40, you know, and he's all jacked up, and somebody videoed it, and his arm just snapped. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Was that a popular video that went around? I'm trying to think. I remember singing that.

[B]

You mean, like, we can show you right now, right? Let me. Oh, there you go. You got to listen to it, though.

[A]

Oh, come on.

[B]

You got to have the sound up.

[A]

Oh, my God, bro. Stop. Dude, that's enough, man. Sorry.

[B]

How do you find that so fast, huh?

[A]

I don't know, bro. We got it.

[B]

It's on the Internet.

[A]

Oh, my God, dude.

[B]

Yeah, I love that movie. Over the Top, you know? Yeah. He turned his hat around. He was serious about it.

[A]

Oh, that was a movie. I forgot about that film, man. That was a good one. You mentioned John Party. What about Red Clay Strays? Did you come up around them? They were always a little bit.

[B]

I mean, I was already here, I guess, by the time they were kind of touring around Alabama. But, yeah, it's always a good sign when you hear somebody's name or a band, and then you keep hearing it over and over again before they've gotten to a place where they're really recognized, you know, on radio and award shows and all that. Now it's awesome because they've made it there. Yeah, they're winning awards and. And what a cool thing, the town

[A]

that you grew up in. What was the. How big was it? Jacksonville. I know it.

[B]

I don't know how many people. I mean, there's a college there when the college is in. I think it was around 8,000 when I was going to school.

[A]

What college was it?

[B]

Jacksonville State.

[A]

Yeah,

[B]

but it was. I mean, it was a really small town. Valbin School wasn't in. And I grew up in a community right outside of there called Pleasant Valley and Williams Community. And this one flashing light. One store called Green Store. El Green run store. He's 94 years old, still there. Doesn't charge tax. Yeah, he just guesses what everything costs. Oh, I love that Snickers up there, he'll be like, it's $2. And next they'd be 250, you know. But all my grand days and their brothers used to go out and play Domino's in the morning for work. We'd stop in There. And it's cool. Hadn't changed much either. Look at that. There's. There's a yo right there. You got a picture of him?

[A]

So was he related to you?

[B]

Probably. Look at this dude.

[A]

Probably.

[B]

That guy's a legend.

[A]

No way. That's him.

[B]

I saw him yesterday.

[A]

Dang. I want to go see him.

[B]

Come on. My dad said they bought their basketball shoes there. They played in Converse All Stars. He sells Converse All Stars.

[A]

And those shoes are horrible to play in.

[B]

Oh, it's like begging to break your ankle.

[A]

And you slide. You just slide everywhere. I don't know how they did it. They must use a different type of. Maybe some type of turpentine.

[B]

I'll tell you what, Old Beanie the Jet Rodriguez using things though. You know who that is? Remember on sandlot, the guy that jumped the fence?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

He put those. Those black ones. There he is. What he put on, man, this. Hey, your man is quick.

[A]

He's crushing this.

[B]

Easy to do an interview like this. Oh, he's say anything?

[A]

Yeah, look at those. What are those? What were those? Something flyers or something?

[B]

PF Flyers.

[A]

PF Flyers, bro. PF Flyers were a real shoe.

[B]

No doubt.

[A]

We had those ones that would remember when those shoes came out that were blank or whatever.

[B]

You talking about light up shoes?

[A]

Yeah. And everybody would just call you like a queer all the time.

[B]

Did they say what?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why would they say that?

[A]

I don't know. Because your shoes were dang blank and I. I get it a little bit. Or people like your feet are gay or whatever.

[B]

Well, I don't guess I had any. Those were probably expensive shoes. I probably. My parents wouldn't buy me those.

[A]

Were your parents, what were they like? Going to be pretty strict over there. What were they? What was it? What was it like? I mean, it sounds like just a good small town environment. It sounds like a real kind of American Southern environment.

[B]

Yeah, There's a lot about where I grew up that kind of looks like a movie, like going back in time, you know? I'll bring people down there and they'll be like, man, it's really like this. You. My dad built houses. My mom was school teacher. I never got away with anything. Mom caught me anything I ever did. Pops built houses for a living. And I used to go out and work with him when I wasn't playing ball. So I tried to play any sport I could to keep from having to work. I was really lucky. My. All four of my grandparents lived in the same town. So I saw my grandparents every day. So I was really close with all them.

[A]

That's awesome, man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And do you think that's what led you to writing Grandpa's Never Die? That's just a lot of, like, that's a lot of influence of why. Why Grandpa's Never Died.

[B]

My. My granddaddy Buford loved country music. He'd sit around with the old epiphone guitar when I was a kid, and we'd sit around and kind of play. And we ended up turning his parents house, my great grandparents, into a music hall. And on Friday nights, all these old people would come out there and play and tell jokes, and I'd sit around and watch how they made chords and learned how to play like that. But, yeah, that's my grandaddy Buford. My. My grande London was a big fisherman golfer, so I'd hang out with them every day and I wrote the song about him as a tribute. And then of course, it became a big hit for me and I ended up putting both of them as co writers on the song. So.

[A]

Dude, that's awesome.

[B]

Writer credit for it, bro.

[A]

They must have felt. I mean, they must be so proud, huh?

[B]

Yeah. My grand debut for died in 2010, so he didn't really get to see me, you know, like, have any real success. I was kind of starting out with music, but my granddad Lyndon got to come see me at the Opry. My grandma Nancy did. My grandmother. Little Jean's still alive, so she's probably cutting grass right now. She loves it.

[A]

That's awesome. Yeah, man, I missed. I definitely miss things about like that at home, man. Dude. What? Dude, what if grandpa's never did die? You ever think about that? Like, because there would be some side effects of it. There would, obviously.

[B]

Okay, so everything in that song, there are side effects too. There's a. If every road was named Copperhead.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It'd be really hard to get anywhere.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Really confusing, you know?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point.

[B]

Coolers never ran out of beer people. Alcohol, poison. People would be.

[A]

Yeah. And then they'd be out on the roads.

[B]

High school home teams never lost. Everybody be 500 at the end of the season, you know, so there are problems. Like, if you want to just pick apart the songs that I write, we can. But no, I Wish Grandpa Never Died is. Yeah, it's.

[A]

First of all, it's one of my favorite songs. And second of all. But no, I do think, like, if they never died, first of all, what would never inheritance would never start. That pissed some people off.

[B]

Yeah. But only People with rich grandpas.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Because I mean, I, you know, but

[A]

even if you had a shitty grandpa, if he had $50, you knew you was getting a little waterfall.

[B]

Yeah, but grandpa's always give you a little walking around.

[A]

A lot of them, that other pocket, some of them. My grandpa only reached into one of his pocket. I knew in that other pocket that's where it was. Oh, yeah.

[B]

My granddad always had a two dollar bill that had.

[A]

Yeah. That was popping.

[B]

Had a picture of Bill Clinton blowing a whistle on it. It was not real, but he'd give me that.

[A]

But he give you that?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's a good idea, giving fake money to children.

[B]

Yeah, well, you know, it keeps them out of trouble.

[A]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. What if grandpa's trying to think of just some other interesting facts?

[B]

Grandpa's never died.

[A]

Just like if they never died.

[B]

So a positive I think would be the. The things that I do miss about that generation was like they were hard workers. Yeah. You know, I always say I was kind of the last generation. Like work with my dad. Like, my buddies didn't, but like, you know, now, I mean, I don't know that people get out of high school and college and really have to bust it anywhere. You know, there's a certain amount of like, work ethic that's lost a little bit.

[A]

Well, yeah, I think. And also a lot of the trades. I mean, one thing, like we've had Mike row on here a few times and he talks a lot about how there's not enough viable tradesmen right now. Like, there's jobs, there's just not people that can fill them that have the skill sets.

[B]

You know, we could be working and we're just talking. Yeah. You know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And also, I thought micro lived in my house for most of my childhood. My dad watched Dirty Jobs and Deadliest Catch every day. Oh, dude, he was in there.

[A]

He's a. Yeah, listen to his voice. It just. It makes you feel like you got to fill out a job application. Every time I hear Mike Rose voice, I'll fill one out online.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I'll buy a damn. Just buy a second quick creed or something.

[B]

Just. Just in case.

[A]

Just. Yeah, I just feel like something could happen.

[B]

See, that's what I'm talking about, though. You. You go down to Alabama and you get up and you're like, man, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna. I'll build a little pin and buy some goats. And then you just go to the store and buy you make a list, you make it happen, and then you go and you dig the holes and like, you're not thinking about anything else when you do that.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, dude, I think there's like. I do think with society sometimes we took a very errant path out into like, existence, you know, like this, like, you know, and I think there also became like a gre, you know, there's this. Agreed. Has a lot to do with that, I think when somebody wants to keep leveling, know. So. But I think. I think we'll. We will look back at some point or generations in the future, we'll look back and be like, man, we were missing out on a lot of the things in life that really mean something, you know?

[B]

Well, yeah, I mean, it's social media that's caused it. The. The amount of comparison you have to somebody else. Yeah. Also, let's talk about how me and you were talking like a couple of grandpa's now about the younger generation. Like, man, these kids now, they don't. They don't know, man. I don't know what it was like, you know, when I was growing up, I had a phone. It didn't do anything. Yeah, you could call if you wanted to send a K. You had to press six, seven times. You know, like, it was tough. I have social media or anything now. All they've known is. And I remember people I thought were rich growing up.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

But now everybody seems rich. There's like a handful of people that had bunny in my town. I was like, man, that's big time, you know.

[A]

Oh, dude. If somebody had a garage, dude, we had this one kid, Jeremy, and he.

[B]

It's always Jeremy.

[A]

He got a garage. And we were like, look at this mother. You know, we couldn't believe it. And. But then, dude, two days later, we're over there just doing the door up and down and running back and forth.

[B]

Oh, it had an automatic door.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, that's wild.

[A]

He got the real deal, dude. But yeah, man. Dude, what was I reading the other day? That the first 911 call was in Alabama. Did you know that?

[B]

Domestic dispute.

[A]

It could have been domestic. I think it was people. Two people fighting over a baked bean recipe. Probably. I mean, I don't know.

[B]

But they didn't get it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If they're sealed there, brother.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Try to get a recipe in Alabama. Dare you.

[A]

They wouldn't. The government would not seal it.

[B]

That's not our watch. Haleyville, Alabama, 1968.

[A]

There you go.

[B]

The very first started it. We launched the standard across the United States.

[A]

I don't know if that's good or bad. Like, things were kind of getting a little rocky down there. Like, look, we got to figure out a way to get help over here quicker. Or. It could have been, dude. It could have been. Just, look, somebody's like, you know, there is a guy over here just hugging his sister in, like, a. In the worst way.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

You know, I mean, there's just. Hey. Yes, officer, there is a man over here. I mean, and he is just hugging his sister. Yeah, I mean, I just don't know what that. I mean, that 911 call could have been anything.

[B]

You know, Honestly, what would that hug have to look like? You're sitting over there just crushing the heater.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In Walmart parking lot, you see somebody hugging, you know, their brother, sister, you go, that's a little too long.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Honey, give me the phone. I'm gonna call this in. Yeah, it'd be out of Towner that called it in. I'll tell you that.

[A]

It would be.

[B]

And it wouldn't be somebody from Louisiana. I'll go ahead and tell you that, too. Louisiana. Mississippi's not making that call.

[A]

They'd be like, hey, these people are stealing our style. That's what they would say, bro. They're stealing.

[B]

Smoking a cigarette, holding a baby. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, God. Dude. I remember, and I've told this story, but we had this lady, Ms. Robin, and she was like our teacher. She was like our.

[B]

She sounds like a teacher. Ms. Robin.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Good call. And she was. Damn, cooking me today, man. And she would. Well, the other kids would do nap time. Right. But I didn't really believe in nap time. I just. I wanted to get busy and get at it.

[B]

Yeah, I got that.

[A]

I was ready to get to work.

[B]

I was probably like that. Yeah.

[A]

Even as a kid, I was like, what are we doing? We're barely. Nobody's doing. We got to take a break from that.

[B]

You get old and realize nap time was for them, not for you. Oh. You know what I mean? That was their break.

[A]

Dang.

[B]

Lay down for a little while.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You need a nap. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah. I'm gonna hit this heater. And that's what she would do, though. Ms. Robin, though, she knew I didn't sleep, and we had similar hair, and so she would come and kind of hit me with her foot, and that meant I could go outside, and she would. And she'd light up a cigarette and. And I would just lean on her Car tire. And she would just tell me about

[B]

her smoke and look at you.

[A]

Yeah, just. She was just, just. And she would just tell me stuff about her husband or something and he wasn't doing. And she would.

[B]

Most Rogers aren't.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Hey, listen to this. This, this.

[A]

I don't know why I got the last, but I'm glad I do, man. Thanks for coming in.

[B]

You know, thanks for having me and yeah, we'll get some coffee. Coming shortly. The. You know what bothers me when what bothers you, Riley?

[A]

Because I bet it's a lot.

[B]

But one thing that really bothers me a lot. How do you look at a baby and name it Roger?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like my granddaddy's name was Buford. How did you look at a baby and say that's Buford.

[A]

That Buford right there.

[B]

There's. You know what I mean?

[A]

But in the south and then like

[B]

think about you're playing with the kid when he's like 10 and you're another kid. You're like, buford, get over here. Like, that's wild.

[A]

Yeah. We had a fellow named Fremont by us and people thought he was rich or whatever, gay. Just because his name was like real

[B]

high end rich or gay.

[A]

People thought one of the two.

[B]

Did shoes light up?

[A]

They did.

[B]

Do they roll?

[A]

Oh, those wheelie shoes, those are the best. When you saw a kid doing that, that was a little after my generation off. So I feel like, I don't know. If we had those, I would see kids have those. They had the Reebok pump. Some of those people would pump those shoes.

[B]

I like the Reebok. I feel like I've always judged my shoes and clothing as in, like, would the version of me that doesn't wear that kick the ass with the version that did? You know what I mean?

[A]

Wait, say it one more time.

[B]

So like the version of me that wears wheelie shoes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Would get his ass beat by the version that didn't. You know what I mean?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

That's why I make decisions in life.

[A]

And then you go with what you're like. That's not for me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Got it. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What's the worst. What's one of the best or worst bar fights you ever saw out there? Yeah, for sure.

[B]

Hell yeah. We're about to get into a different gear now.

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[B]

I ain't been on a podcast where they can look up stuff you're talking about in a long time. I guess it did it on busing with the boys.

[A]

Yeah, those guys are cool.

[B]

That's nice, man.

[A]

Oh, it's nice, man. I mean, look, it's been. I mean, one of my goals this year is to try and learn more stuff and get a little bit more involved in kind of what's going on like in the universe. Since I'm not torn, I have a little bit more time to absorb some things and, and just to want to do that, you know, it's like how

[B]

Far Pluto is from Neptune or just like more social things, I think.

[A]

No, just consume more. Like different types of artists work. Right. Different of types. Films just absorb more stuff. So it's like I have more things to like think about and talk about.

[B]

I can comprehend that. You're probably like me in that I don't listen to as much new music as I used to before I got in this world. Not necessarily because I'm burned out on it and not really because I'm like, I don't want to get, you know, drawn to something that's going to influence me to be like that. I just, I don't know, I just. I think I'm busy and don't pay attention to it like I used to. I don't have a passion for it like I did. But I mean like you don't probably watch a lot of stand up or. I mean.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Isn't it weird that you get removed from it when you're in it? You know, I feel like I feel that way with me.

[A]

That's a good point. Yeah. You think you're in it so there'd be. You'd be in more of.

[B]

You just got so much of your own stuff. You got to be concerned with it. I don't.

[A]

Yeah, there's a lot that goes into. Especially once you get to touring and like with podcasting, like I'll sit and watch through every single episode. Like I was up last night till probably, you know, 11 watching yours. Putting notes on an episode, like giving notes and like, you know, stuff and like. Because sometimes we'll say stuff where it's like, oh, we, we can't leave that in, you know, we just can't. Like sometimes we'll say stuff that slander that's like, you know, it's like you got to check through or send it to an attorney. Like there's just different things you got to do now. And so, yeah, there's a lot of. I think there's a lot that goes into that. Did I hear you say that you don't have a computer?

[B]

Yeah, no, no. I mean I certainly didn't. They got me one during COVID to do like zooms and stuff. And I remember my managers had me set up on this zoom interview with the radio station. It didn't. They were asked me to go to like speed.com or something and see what my bandwidth was and I didn't have Internet at my house and they couldn't believe that.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

Yeah. When I go home, it's a. It's A disconnect from it, you know, except where I do, like, photo shoots or. Or interviews or something down there. You know, it's. It's nice. I've started steering people that way because every time I did a. We'd, like, rent an old truck, we'd go out to some farm somewhere and stand in front of a bunch of cows and like, man, I got all that in Alabama. Let's just do it down there. So.

[A]

Yeah. Do you have. You running a lot of, like, ex girlfriends and stuff around home? What's that. What's that energy like? Because I'm sure you had a girlfriend at some point.

[B]

At some point I've had a girlfriend. Yeah. It's. I'm glad you brought that up, because

[A]

you seem like a guy that's. Yeah.

[B]

That would have a girlfriend at some point in his life.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, you're right about that.

[A]

Thank you. And we just had to switch our coffee into some different cups.

[B]

That was for the people watching.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Okay, dude.

[A]

And. Yeah, you. So you just said something that's kind of interesting.

[B]

Tony's cup.

[A]

Oh, Tony. Hell, yeah. Hope he's. Hope he's good.

[B]

Vivian's cup.

[A]

Well, Tony used to drink. He'd passed. He's at HIV Head, but we washed it.

[B]

Rip. Not a lot.

[A]

He didn't have the big case. He had something light, but a lethal

[B]

case all the same.

[A]

He caught it in the spring.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, so you don't get the head. You catch that winter here, baby. It'll. It'll climb up your legs.

[B]

Starts with the toe.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

Then it comes looking for you, dude.

[B]

That's how to get that horrible thing to talk about.

[A]

It is. We're joking, obviously.

[B]

No, no. Yeah, I know. If people haven't figured that out by now, they thought we were being serious. When you explained the coffee thing, that's like. That seems like something a serious podcaster would do.

[A]

Well, you have to remember that some people can't see it. Some people just listen. Half of our audience is just. Just listeners.

[B]

Oh, you're going to want to watch this one.

[A]

So. So, yeah, half our audience is just listeners. So it's like you got to kind of explain stuff sometimes.

[B]

It's like we just do a cut and we swap chairs. I'm like, hey, we're right back. We had to swap chairs. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

You got to move this plant. Different plan in here, dude.

[A]

One time I got so high in taking pot in California. Yes. I was absorbed. I was doing. Yeah, I'm smoking weed. And I called down to the. I got back to my room and had been a long day. I called down to the front, and I said, somebody put a bunch of plants in my room while I was gone.

[B]

Right?

[A]

And they're like, excuse me. And they're like. I said, somebody, there's a bunch of big plants in there. Said, somebody put a bunch of plants in my room while I was gone. And they came up, and it was just the regular plants that had been. I've been in this room for a week, and I just had never really noticed to my guests.

[B]

Okay, that's. That's really fun for me because I had a thing when I first got a tour bus. I'd been touring for several years. I was driving to shows or whatever. So there was such a big, like. That was a huge moment.

[A]

Oh, that's a relief.

[B]

And I took a buddy of mine out on the road with me to kind of help me, you know, whatever he was doing, Assistant, whatever you want to call it. And I had this thing where when I was drinking, I would take all the plants from the lobby of a hotel and put them in my room. And when I say, we had a bus, I was just. I was partying back then. You know, I got after it. So as I say.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I don't know where that came from. I never wanted to steal anything. And I would always, like, take it back, but my room would just look like a jungle. I would say, any potted plan, I could get furniture from down there, wheel them in.

[A]

Now how would you guys get them in there?

[B]

We just. I just go to the downstairs and pick them up and kind of like, you know, you see on, like, cartoons where they walk behind the thing, like it was covering them, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It was a real silly thing. I remember being in Mobile, we played Mardi Gras down there, which is where Mardi Gras originated, by the way.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Yeah. And somebody.

[A]

That's. Somebody probably called 911 because was getting weird down there.

[B]

It does do that here with a moon Pie down there.

[A]

The Moon Pie started down there, didn't they?

[B]

Where the moon pie started with the moonpiece started. Here we go where they start.

[A]

Before you move on, we're going to. Hold that thought.

[B]

Tennessee.

[A]

Let's go.

[B]

Chattanooga.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

The Windy City.

[A]

The Moon pie originated in 1917 at the Chattanooga Bakery in Tennessee. You know, Mountain Dew started in Tennessee.

[B]

Did you know Appalachian coal miners wanted a snack in their lunch pails? And that was how it started.

[A]

God, I'd love That. Wouldn't you love that? You've been in a mine all day.

[B]

They requested a filling treat as big as the moon.

[A]

Did they really?

[B]

I just knew that I didn't read that.

[A]

They requested a filling treat as big as the moon. That's in that.

[B]

That's why it's called a moon pie.

[A]

Who wrote this? Is whole. This is.

[B]

You know, there's made up stuff on the Internet. Did you know that? I figured that out last couple of years. People can just say whatever they want put on the Internet.

[A]

We never figured that out. We'll just look it up and say it. Yeah, we don't really test anything.

[B]

Well, you can just. You can just say whatever you can

[A]

like, oh, nowadays you can say whatever.

[B]

What I've found is all you have to say before you say whatever you want is get ready with me. Yeah. If you say get ready with me, you can say whatever you want after. That doesn't have to be true. I found that out. Did you seen that? There's videos. They'll say, get ready with me and they just make up stuff.

[A]

Well, it's gotten bad too. It's like, get ready with me for my nephew's funeral or whatever. And I'm like, like, what? Why is that, dude? You know, it's like. Or they're like, oh, get ready for me while I cheat on my spouse or whatever. And sometimes it's just like, this is not helpful to people.

[B]

That's. Hey, well, hold on a second. No, you're right. But there is a. There's a world where I get ready with me. Like, if you did it to go do something. Yeah, that'd be interesting. I mean, I'd be putting makeup on. You're like, the actual get ready part's gonna be pretty slow.

[A]

Right?

[B]

You're gonna be putting your clothes on. Right, but explaining where you're going.

[A]

Yeah, saying where I'm going. Get ready with me. Guys do.

[B]

They do like to go fishing.

[A]

That'd be good.

[B]

Get ready with me to go fishing and then talk about what lures you're gonna take and stuff.

[A]

Oh, yeah, talk about my rigs.

[B]

Let's do a good old boy get ready with me. That's not a. I like that.

[A]

It's not a bad idea.

[B]

It's not a great idea.

[A]

It's not a great idea.

[B]

It's not gonna. We're not gonna get any endorsement deals.

[A]

Yeah. Who would watch it, though?

[B]

Swim bait.

[A]

You'll get a lot of women watching it. Dude. Dude. I think. And I'll get their Friends, you know, that's right. And that's fine. I think that's okay with me, dude.

[B]

You know, I just thought of it. You kind of remind me of Brink.

[A]

Who is it?

[B]

You know the movie Brink.

[A]

Bring it up.

[B]

Maybe it's a combination of the good guy and the bad guy. Oh, you see what I mean? Those two guys together, that's kind of.

[A]

That's a man on the right.

[B]

Yeah. And he's the bad guy. Man. Look, immediate, like, hate when I look at him. For me, because you saw.

[A]

You saw this movie.

[B]

Yeah. But I think there's a little redemption at the end. I think he, like, helped somebody up after you push him down or something.

[A]

Brink.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And I'm sorry.

[B]

I can't believe you hadn't seen that.

[A]

I don't know this actor and. Sorry, dude. I. I did it. I. It. This guy does look also a little bit feminine in this section, in this image, because he's wearing a neck. I think the necklace has a woman.

[B]

It's the lips. I mean, he's got.

[A]

Yeah, never mind. It's a great point. The guy definitely looks kind of feminine in this.

[B]

Yeah. You don't have to. You don't have to tiptoe around that.

[A]

Yeah. I have to apologize, dude. Yeah.

[B]

He's gonna be way more offended if he wears light up shoes than what you just said about him looking fine.

[A]

I promise that dude will do a get ready with me, I feel like. And this character would do a get ready with me. That's fair to say.

[B]

100.

[A]

Okay, good. Okay, good. That's what I feel like. But yeah, dude, that's got to be why? I mean, like, I can't figure out

[B]

what we've been talking about.

[A]

That's okay. This is what this whole.

[B]

Okay, that's what this is.

[A]

I've been doing that for 10 years. Cool.

[B]

It seems like we start somewhere, we'll get somewhere, but it's rubbing off on me. I did the Brink thing, and I don't know what we're talking about before that.

[A]

That's okay, dude. I'll tell you this. You've done a great job of just being yourself, managing things well, staying in control, confidence, and a lot of good humor. I didn't even expect it.

[B]

I was working on posture. I was hoping that was gonna come. That's not really there.

[A]

Do you want some good posture? I'll tell you where to go.

[B]

You're a funny guy, man.

[A]

I'm all right. Today I'm like, okay, today it's.

[B]

It. It's contagious, man. You be around funny people.

[A]

Do you feel like. Like, totally honestly, do you feel like. Like if I showed up at a music place, I would feel like, you know, I. I would sit there wishing I could do music. If you show up to a place where there is a comedy, do you feel like you have to be a funny guy?

[B]

No.

[A]

No.

[B]

But I think everybody wants to be funny.

[A]

Do you? That's a good question.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Huh.

[B]

I feel like funny is probably the. The quickest way for somebody to like you.

[A]

That's fair.

[B]

Because, you know, when you see somebody, especially somebody that's famous, you. Somebody that's famous, you're thinking, ice, probably a jerk. You know, he's probably.

[A]

That is people's first thought.

[B]

You're a little separate self deprecating. You kind of cut up, like, oh, man, he doesn't take yourself too seriously. That's. I feel like those are people I like.

[A]

Do you feel like people think that about you ever? Like, it's probably. Especially if you're also a handsomer guy and a. And a popular guy, people probably need to be a harder time about it.

[B]

You need to be real funny is what you need to do.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know.

[A]

Yeah. You gotta be real funny.

[B]

Word of the wise, did you.

[A]

Yeah. What was the best. What was one of the best bar fights on that? You tell me that. I don't know if I asked you.

[B]

No, we went into a complete, completely different rant after that. It's always girls. Girl fights are always way more serious than guy fights. I feel like, you know, and I'm always surprised too, at the song. They get in a fight during one of your songs. Well, there's been a couple videos I've seen of people, like, getting in a fight during I wish grandpa's never died.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Or I got a song called Jesus Saves, you know, and like, that's. So how, like, how do you emotionally go to blows, right?

[A]

Like Jesus saves, but he better not save that, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And somebody just comes across and just. And the craziest part, people sometimes that are fighting or like already will be in like a cast or something. In an arm cast or something. Something. That's the kind of. I don't get.

[B]

Yeah, but they just got out of a fight to come.

[A]

Like, they just got out of a fight and now they're.

[B]

You know. I will venture to say this. I bet you the people that fight at bars or concerts probably do it often habitual, you know, I mean, those are the ones. It's probably not a Lot of people, it's handful of them that are just.

[A]

They keep doing it.

[B]

I had buddies growing up that liked fighting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, they're like. That was. They go to the bar, like they were gonna get in a fight.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I feel like I got goofier. You know what I mean? I was always like, take my clothes off or like jump in a lake or something like that. You know, I don't.

[A]

Right. Instead of fighting guy.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like, get ready with me while I go fight or whatever. Like, that would be black on.

[B]

Yeah. Go kick somebody's ass. I'm about to go to a concert and fight somebody I've never met for no reason. Okay.

[A]

Now I'd watch that during Jesus saves. Get ready with me while I beat somebody.

[B]

Would you wear. If you're going to get in a fight, think about that. You get dressed for a lot of things. Knowing that there's a. Potentially. Maybe you meet a girl.

[A]

It's a good question.

[B]

So you. So you, you put on something maybe a girl would like.

[A]

I know what I mean.

[B]

Maybe you're gonna be. It's gonna be hot.

[A]

Well, let me tell you.

[B]

Gonna be comfortable.

[A]

I'll tell you.

[B]

What would you do if you were gonna fight?

[A]

It's a great question. Thank you.

[B]

Boots would look intimidating, but they wouldn't be as good for a fight as tennis shoes would.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

Roller shoes would not be good. Light up shoes might distract them, but

[A]

roller shoes might be good. Say if you're on a hill, hit the guy and then you just activate them and you roll right downhill. Your home. You're back at the house. Else, you know, if you had a strategy.

[B]

Oh, that would be good. If you were going to run from a fight. If you were going to try to escape a fight, like, you think somebody's gonna kick your ass at this place, you're going to wear roller shoes.

[A]

Yes. I gotta get out. Yeah. And like, you ain't leaving. And you're like, watch this. You just.

[B]

Watch this.

[A]

You just lift the front of your feet up.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. And. But like, no, no other part of your body has to move. And you just look back and your hair is just flowing as you just. Oh, that's cool. Honestly, I changed my opinion about those.

[A]

That would be nice. But yeah. Dude, there's some chick out there, she's in an arm cast or whatever and she has a dog. She says she does, but it's been taken or whatever. It's gotten by CPS and.

[B]

And the child protective Services.

[A]

It is.

[B]

Dogs.

[A]

Huh?

[B]

They take dogs.

[A]

Oh, yeah, they will. I mean, if you're not being a good.

[B]

So she says she has a dog, but it's gone.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

She's got a cast.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I feel like I'm there now.

[A]

And she's like, get ready with me while I go over there. Over to.

[B]

I'm getting my dog back.

[A]

Yeah. Over to Snooker's Tavern or whatever. And Humphrey. Beating somebody's ass after dinner tonight.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then she probably puts on nice earrings. Yeah, I guess.

[B]

Just as you can take them out, because that's intimidation right there.

[A]

That's a move, dude. Police.

[B]

Honestly, I wish. Yeah, I wish I had them just for.

[A]

Would you ever Wearing every.

[B]

Think about this.

[A]

Did you ever have your ears?

[B]

Me and you in the bar and we just disgruntled, you know? I mean, we're just disagreement. I don't know what it is. I can't even imagine. Because we're good old boys. But let's just say we. We're not about it. Same girl or something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we're, like, about to go down. Like, we doing this. And you're like, hell, yeah. And I just.

[A]

And we're gonna fight each other.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, wouldn't they do something for you?

[A]

You're gonna get her.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

And no judgment or anything, but you're gonna get it. Like. I'm not. I'm. I would rather be like, you're gonna get her.

[B]

Okay. But this is just a.

[A]

Okay. It's just a pretend thing.

[B]

Sorry. You know what I mean? Okay, you're mad at me.

[A]

Okay. And you take your. And then you take your earrings out. I'm like, oh, he means it to go down. Yeah. He'll never take his earrings out. You know, he didn't even take them out. We went on the water slide after, you know, senior year or whatever.

[B]

See, now it makes it hard for us to be in a fight because we were hanging out senior year on a water slide.

[A]

That's a good point. But you didn't take earrings out then. Dude, if you're taking them out now, you meet. You're here to beat some ass.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Huh? Yeah. Dude, I think if I got in a fight, I thought about this. Now I would wear a nice suit. Because if the story after would be like, man, you see that dude in that suit beat that guy's ass.

[B]

He beat his ass in a suit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's cool.

[A]

And then he went to work, probably. And then he went to work.

[B]

See, I was picturing like a wedding Suit. Like a tuxedo. But you're talking about like a suit. Like, you work on Wall Street.

[A]

I'm talking business suit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or just work on any street, like some people. You know, people used to get dressed up a lot more than they do now. Think about that. Think about the fact that on a daily basis, every day, people would get, like. People took a. Like a. There was a lot more, I think, caring concern about how they looked. Bring up some images of people, how they dressed, say, 70 years ago.

[B]

I didn't grow up around that.

[A]

Well, not for us. I'm talking about two.

[B]

Maybe two generations earlier or something. Yeah. I mean, no, I think I feel like a person that dressed nice, who had a nice job when I was growing up, was like the bank president. He just wore a polo shirt with khakis.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, like, my mom wouldn't let me wear that church. And, like, it was. That was fancy then, you know.

[A]

Oh, yeah. But look at people dressed, I think, snazzy. Do you think that's true? Maybe I'm just kind of romanticizing it.

[B]

Well, I will go along with, like, the. The whole, you know, like, sweatsuits to the bar.

[A]

It's got. That's what I'm saying. It's gotten pretty casual. It is like, there's like, dude, there's May. There's even men's shoes at Alo. At Alo or whatever it's called Aloha, and it's crazy now. We're so dumb. It's Alo, and I don't even know how to say it.

[B]

What is it? Yeah, Yeah. I don't know.

[A]

I agree. Dude, what is it? But.

[B]

Hello? But.

[A]

Yeah, I'm just trying to think. Was there a bar fight that stood out to you over there? Like, there's the one that stood out because that much time at Floor Mammon. Dude, that's a lot. So Florida, Bama was always a place you could get.

[B]

I never saw a lot of ice down there. Yeah.

[A]

You can get your stomach pump and you can get a lot of splinters. It used to be a place you get a lot of splinters at.

[B]

Could.

[A]

Yeah, like, everybody in that had a splinter. Dude, if people were doing the stanky leg, 40 people get a damn splinter in there.

[B]

There's a vibe about that place that's very, you know, beach bars, too. We got a little more like Jimmy Buffett, laid back. Let's all get along. Yeah. Yeah. So it's.

[A]

God, that's good stuff.

[B]

It really is. I. I do remember I was oddly Enough. I was in Louisiana. I played at the Texas Club down

[A]

there in Baton Rouge.

[B]

Baton Rouge, yeah. And. And I remember I was about to sign a record deal. I had somebody from a label down there, and I was horribly sick. Like, threw up for the show. Like, just trying to get through it. It's one of the, like, worst right before show sickness I've had. And somebody got in a fight during the last song, and I was like, hey, like, you know, knock it out. And I couldn't get their attention. They were still, like, going at it. So I. They were close to the front. I took my guitar off and I poked the guy in the back. And I was like, hey, let me play one more song, and then we'll all go out back and just beat the shit out of each other. And everybody just cheered. The two dudes were like, high five. And then we went through and got the song done.

[A]

Oh, that's great. Yeah, that's what people. Because some people just want to plan, you know, Some people just don't know how to. They're like, well, I guess we'll frighten now. And it's like, yeah, you come along with a little bit of strategy for people. They have. Some people will follow suit when a leader shows up. People will follow. That's what's kind of wild sometimes, you know, even in an instance like that,

[B]

I think, well, it's a little bit of, like, you go at somebody in a. The Kai situation with a little calmness, too. Okay, listen, you want to fight, right? We can do it. It's fine.

[A]

Yeah, let me give you.

[B]

Let me. Let me. I got this one more song. Yeah, let me play this song. And then back to the fight. They're like, oh, that's reasonable. Yeah, just be reasonable.

[A]

Yeah, be reasonable. Dude, what was I looking at? Oh, I saw you, like, you. You do a good bit of hunting there, do you. Do you hunt out on your property out there in Alabama?

[B]

I do a lot of turkey hunting out there. I usually go up north. Deer hunting.

[A]

What do you think about turkeys?

[B]

I think about them a lot.

[A]

You think they're one of the best birds or not? We had Steve Ronell on here.

[B]

No, best bird to just. In general.

[A]

Steve Brunello gave him top bird. He said, for what?

[B]

Like, what are the stipulations? Are you going by, they don't fly that good?

[A]

Yeah, I. Look, I agree with you. What I'm saying is he said they were the best bird. And I said, well, look, Steve, I just. I, you know, I begrudgingly Kind of like a. Supported him because he was going through it when he said it for.

[B]

For just because we're so close to.

[A]

And there he is with one. Oh, he loves them so much. That one looks dead.

[B]

He's got to be talking about hunting birds. Like, I would think, like, an eagle is an easy win for best bird.

[A]

That's Trevin. What do you think he said?

[B]

He said that bald eagles, despite being America's bird, they're scavengers, whereas turkeys are highly intelligent. They. Their heads change color based on their mood. They do that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So he was all about it.

[A]

Yeah. So. But then he's also deceasing them, so that's kind of an interesting concept.

[B]

But he loves the most challenging bird to hunt. Hunt?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

By far. Yeah. I. I hunted turkeys for two or three years before I even got close to killing one.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. My dad didn't hunt. I kind of just taught myself how. I just was interested in it. And, yeah, like, they're. They're tough. Especially down on those. Those eastern birds down there. They're tough, man.

[A]

We went and hunted some Osceolas down in Florida. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it was interesting. Dude.

[B]

It's a little different down there. So it's flat. When you're hunting in the hills and mountains, you know, you got a bird that's calling. You're calling to him. You think he's right there, but he's two ridges over. He's not. You know what I mean? You got to know how the land lays. And you think he's going to pop right over top of the hill and he walks around the side and spots you for you see him, it's tough.

[A]

Yeah. I think maybe the place we want was a little bit easy. It might have been like, sort of like a beginners or like summer league or whatever.

[B]

That was you and Caleb.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Michael Waddell. Y' all were goofing off.

[A]

I saw that they wouldn't even let me have a gun, so I thought that wasn't.

[B]

I get that. Yeah.

[A]

But then the second part was, dude, they.

[B]

What did you wear? You put camouflage on. You're like, you're going to the city pool.

[A]

I did. Well, first of all, they did not even send a fan flitter or anything about what we were supposed to wear. They gave no directions.

[B]

They had some stuff for you.

[A]

Yeah, they had some stuff down there, and it was good, dude. We, like, the food was great. We had a great time. But I agree, it was flat, so that's an easy Place to shoot them. And dude. So we were out there and we maybe saw some or maybe didn't see some. I don't remember what happened. But afterwards we're leaving and there's like a couple. Like, the game's over or whatever. It's like around 11am There's a couple turkeys just hanging out in the ditch. Right. And like, you know, it's over. Like, we were over there hunting them and we happen to just see some over here. Yeah, it's like, you know, like during the locker room, the game's over. One of them has a towel around his neck. You know, when I was texting his. Texting his wife or whatever.

[B]

He's not worried about it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Because one of them's taking his feet off. You know what I'm saying? Taking his wings off. He's just a sparrow with a morning job, you know.

[B]

We got him. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And they're like, let's shoot him. I'm like, dude, the. That's not fair, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I just want to be a fair challenge. That's the thing. Sometimes with hunting, I do. Like, I had a great time. I would like to go duck hunting is something I would like to do.

[B]

I know a guy, but.

[A]

But that is a fake. That's a fair. Like, I just like a little bit more of a fair challenge, you know?

[B]

Well, you go out in the woods, like in my farm with a call. First of, you forgot how to call.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You camouflage and you go out there and like, try to kill a bird on your own. It's tough, you know, like with no weapon. You could take a weapon. I just mean, like, calling one is not the easiest thing to do. And then you almost have to get busted by one to know how well they can see, you know.

[A]

Oh, that's pretty. Like, we'll have one sneak up on you.

[B]

Yeah. And turkeys, because they're not going to come in the way you want them to.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You go and you pick your spot. But he's going to try to come in where he can see you from as far away as he can. Hen. You know, wherever that hand is that he thinks he's going to see. Yeah, they kick my butt for several years.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, I saw that. You call him. You do a call. Can you do it regular? Can you do it right now?

[B]

No, I mean, I. I use a. Like a diaphragm or I got a slate call or what's like call,

[A]

you know? No, that's something. That one's.

[B]

Yeah, that Wasn't. That wasn't good.

[A]

That's from Key West, I think. But let me try it one more time.

[B]

That's. Yeah, that's pretty good.

[A]

It's pretty simple because the goal is you're trying to do it one more time. Yeah, that's better.

[B]

That's it. See how you use your chest? Yeah, that was good. Yeah, Save your chest. That was good. Yeah, that's cool.

[A]

Yeah, that's nice, man. Dude. And when people get out there with those calls, I love guessing what birds. Different birds. There's so many birds out there. It is kind of interesting how. How some birds, you can hunt them, but so many birds, you can't hunt them.

[B]

Yeah. Do you think that is a these taste good kind of thing? Because I've never heard anybody that'd be like a Cardinals delicious. You know what I mean? Like.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Those birds don't have a lot on. Turkey's got a lot of put meat on them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Dove and pheasant are obviously really good birds. Eat duck or good to eat geese.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You think that's what it is? You think that traditionally Indians, whatever it was back in the day, like, started hunting birds that they ate, and they ate some robins, and then they're like, that's not good. And then we just adapted to that. These are the ones we're gonna hunt.

[A]

I bet you're probably right. I bet there was always also some pervert always eating a blue jay or whatever off on the side. Like, look at this little weirdo.

[B]

I mean, because I don't think people eat, like, skunks either, you know, maybe in Louisiana. But I mean.

[A]

No, I mean, raccoons. People eat a lot. My brother would kill raccoons. He would put notes up at the church and see if people had any in their area, and he'd go get them or whatever. But. Yeah, I guess that is a good point. You kind of eat whatever is the most plentiful because you also had to feed a lot of people. It's like, you're like, you know, if you're just out there hunting for one all day, it's kind of like.

[B]

I mean, turkeys are from back, like, settler days.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, like, that was. That's what it was. Like the guy and turkeys that came over on the boat.

[A]

Yeah. And if you saw a fat turkey, if people are like, hey, bring some lunch. And you bring. One dude brings a turkey and one dude brings a little nightingale or whatever. It's like the dude eating the nightingale.

[B]

If they brought like a Nightingale stew.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah. You'd be like, that's a weirdo. I think. Making that all night.

[B]

Yeah. Blue jay casserole. That didn't sound good.

[A]

Some dude out there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

With a damn. Making whooping crane omelets or something. What about some swan nuggets? Not images. Sound good. Good. You ever eaten swan?

[B]

You know, they also don't hunt a lot of real pretty birds either though, you know. I haven't eaten swan. No.

[A]

I'd have a little.

[B]

You would have a little.

[A]

Yeah. If you went to Thanksgiving, they had swan. I bet they. I bet the. I bet Trump's eating would look like

[B]

on a silver platter. Like with the.

[A]

Yes. If they kept the.

[B]

The arch. You got to make sure you keep the.

[A]

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[B]

Hmm.

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[B]

What, do you got an earpiece in or something? How'd you know that?

[A]

We showed it a second ago.

[B]

Oh, that's how I start the show.

[A]

Oh, it is.

[B]

With Duck call.

[A]

Let's go. Let's go.

[B]

Dude, I've never seen anybody catch that. Catch the duck call. It's the. And I do it at every show. Yeah, people are there, like, signs, throw me the duck call. They never catch it.

[A]

Well, it's. I don't want to judge these people, but a lot of them could be women. That's. And that is judging them.

[B]

I'm gonna take what you said was exactly what you said you weren't gonna say. It was what you said you weren't gonna do. You haven't seen the League of their Own.

[A]

What the heck? Yeah, I have, dude.

[B]

Maybe a Duck call is hard to catch. Maybe the shape of it is not something they're used to. Maybe they're great catchers.

[A]

And there's. You're kind of throwing. Look like you weren't throwing it easily towards them, you know? I don't know. That's a good question, man. What? You're on your biggest tour right now. Is that true?

[B]

Yeah. Every year it's a little bigger.

[A]

Has it been.

[B]

Yeah, it's been great, man.

[A]

What's the fear like about that? We were talking about this the other night. Dude, you and I kind of had our first conversation the other night about a couple weeks ago.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We're talking a little bit about just, like, when, like, as your career goes along, the pressure, it feels like, like, you know, like, what is the rest of your career going to be like? And how do you try to shape that if you can?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And how do you try to shape yourself so that you're okay with however things go?

[B]

There's a certain amount of. I've already accomplished way more than I ever thought I Would. So there's a, there's a peace of mind in that. And you know, there's also a little bit of. I'm guaranteed a certain career at this point, you know, even if I never have another hit, I can go tour and, you know, I can make a living, support my family, whatever I need to do. So there's, there's peace in knowing that. But I think the competitive part of me, and like we talked about the other day is like, when I have a hit or win an award or whatever it is, I don't feel like I can relax now. You know, I've accomplished that. It's really more like, okay, now I got to go do the next thing. I got to take in my. I think I always say that it's. I want to try to get as much out of the opportunities I've got as I can. Because I mean, what you're doing and what I'm doing is very rare, you know, to be, to be able to have the opportunities you've got and to be able to go and, and do some acting and stand up comedy and have a podcast that's this popular and this successful. So I'm, I feel pressure in that regard of just like I want to go and be as successful as I can. But it's not necessarily a nervous thing. Certainly not with the shows getting bigger. That's. That side of it is not a pressure thing because, I mean, the fans make it enjoyable. When you go to a show and you got a sold out arena for your stand, they're excited you're there. It's easy, you know?

[A]

Yeah, well, yeah, I guess with Stand up, it feels like it's a. I can't tell. Do you lose. Does the, does the venue lose intimacy with music? Because as it gets bigger with Stand up, it does. It feels sometimes like, man, I wish I could connect with people. It's just the way it is. But I don't know if music, if it's the same like that.

[B]

I did a stadium tour with Luke Combs and that's, that's too big. Like, I feel like there's no way the person in the far back top row is getting their money's worth at a concert, you know, and you also lose some sound too. And you have to have two rows of speakers, one halfway through. It's. There's so much reverb, reverb and bounce back. And then you think about how much of a pain it is to go to that show, the traffic to get in for a fan and Then, you know, to be able to find a place to park and all that.

[A]

And then they charge in the park too, a lot.

[B]

And then you got, you know, the fact that it's also an open air stadium. You got weathered issues and your openers are starting in the daytime so they don't get the, you know, the full effect of the lights and everything. And so arenas has always felt like a great place for me and I. And you still have an intimate show. You still feel close to everybody. You feel like everybody got their money's worth, but it's still, you know, 20, 25,000 people.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I guess, like, yeah, that intimacy. Yeah, the intimacy get. Gets lost, I think, at certain levels, kind of. And so you try your best, you try to figure it out, you know. Yeah, I guess it's kind of interesting as your career goes on. You're like, man, this has been interesting. It's been fun to have this experience. Yeah. And you want to keep it going. You want to, like, try your best. And you also want to challeng yourself too, because you got to evolve too. Like, I think you're me. Does it feel like your music kind of has to evolve as you do with your life? Like. Like, because one time I sat down with. There's this famous comedy manager and I sat with him and he goes, you know, at a certain point, if you stay the same, your audience will kind of. They age, they'll grow older. And so you have to, like, also, like, because it's almost a trap. Like, I want to stay this. I want to stay this song, you know, like. Like, because if, like, say you get a first hit or something like that, you're like, well, I can't ever be different than this per, you know, the person that sings that song because I may lose people. You know what I'm saying? Does that make any sense?

[B]

Yeah, I think that the. What your guy said is a little bit not true in the sense of, you know, that may have been true 10, 15 years ago, before social media was as relevant as it is. But now if you do something, well, like your standup videos or your podcast or whatever, it lives forever. So the next generation, you know. Whereas when you had a song on the radio 10 years ago, it lived when it was on the radio and then it went off and that was it. It was over. It didn't live anywhere else. Now everything you do lives on the Internet forever. So if you're doing something well, I would really especially like up and coming artists. I would advise against trying to do anything too different for me. What I always do is I try to make sure I've got songs on my record, every record that are writing from the same place I started writing from that are very me. And then I try to take a few songs and write that are a little stylistically different, just to kind of ease outside of my comfort zone a little bit.

[A]

But, but so you would. But so it doesn't mean like. So you're saying that you can change because the thing you did will still stay out there.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

So it's kind of a safe space to be able to kind of. If you're doing something different, like.

[B]

Yeah, I just think you don't turn and run from something that was successful, you know. And like with country music, you know.

[A]

Well, it's scary to do that.

[B]

For sure it is. Yeah. And, and.

[A]

But then I guess I'm thinking like, do, do like, I guess I wonder sometimes it's like, yeah, do you try to stay that. Like, do you try to make your life fit this. This certain time? You know what I'm saying? A little bit.

[B]

I'll give you an example. And I know you've done some acting is. You know, I imagine in your role you went into something that wasn't too far of a stretch from what you do and who you are. So I did Marshalls and like with Luke Grimes. Yeah, with Luke, it was great. And I didn't want to take a role that was crazily different. You know, I wanted something that I could ease into and introduce myself into that world and then kind of go on. That's how I am with music is. I might try a song that stylistically is a little different than what I normally do, but it's not going to be.

[A]

Be.

[B]

I'm not going straight pop, you know, I'm not going to do something totally different. I think melody wise, I'll try some things out and see if it works. But keeping that familiarity and what you've done well for so long I think is extremely important now because I think the best thing you can be is different not necessarily from your. Something you've done before, but from everybody else. You know, I mean, what you, your stand up and your humor on this podcast. I don't know anybody else. It's. I mean, in a weird way, Norm MacDonald, like, the, the. The dry sarcasm of Norm. I always thought he did something that was so unique. And I don't know who I would compare you to, you know?

[A]

Yeah, I think you always kind of like, yeah, I don't know. I guess you want to be like. You want to try and, like, honor yourself as much as you can. I think with humor, it's hard to pretend to be somebody else. And I think with music, if somebody. If you pretended too much and some of it didn't come from a real authentic place for you, then it would kind of start to. You'd be able to see that after a while.

[B]

I think fans can tell. I think that.

[A]

Well, I don't think you'd have a ton. I don't. I think the longevity wouldn't be able to be there because, yeah, you're playing if you. Especially if you're trying to play somebody else's.

[B]

Authenticity's really. It's. It's so obvious now, again, because social media. I mean, 10 years ago, you could have a song on a radio and people not necessarily know what you look like. Yeah. Now they know everything about you. My dog's got 150,000 followers on Instagram.

[A]

Is he really?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, people know everything about you. So if you're not authentically what you act like you are, people are going to figure it out.

[A]

You think your dog knows he has that many?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No way.

[B]

Oh, man. That dude, he. When the camera's on him, he's a different person.

[A]

What?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And where's he from?

[B]

I mean, he lives in Jacksonville, Alabama. He lives on my farm. There's been playing cards.

[A]

What the heck, dude?

[B]

Yeah. Folded.

[A]

Oh, dang.

[B]

Three and six. Yeah.

[A]

He lives like that, dude.

[B]

It's Carl, man.

[A]

Oh, he's handsome. And that's a stogie. What's that dog called?

[B]

Stogie's a cigar. He is a corgi. And Blue Healer. Corgi.

[A]

Oh, Blue Heeler, huh? Damn. He's Native American.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Probably. Look it up. Blue Healer. Are Blue Heelers Native American? No.

[B]

You know what? That's the most direct answer to anything I've ever seen. Ask on the Internet. No, Blue Healers are not Native American. Native Americans, man.

[A]

This might be fake.

[B]

I don't know if you've been like that. Completely wrong. That was crazy. Where did you get that from? I don't want to know.

[A]

Blue Heelers are Native American.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I wouldn't be surprised. Look up what dogs are Native American. Some of them have to be, huh? How'd we get them dogs native to North America? Fall? Nah.

[B]

Look up what type of people think dogs are Native American.

[A]

Oh, come on, bro. You're giving me a hard time.

[B]

No, no, seriously. I Was curious about that. Well, when you look up what would possess a person to think a dog was Native American. Can we look that up? Tell me about the act of. Did you enjoy it?

[A]

Yeah, I'll tell you about it. Just a second. I want to finish this conversation.

[B]

I think this conversation is done. You said that dog is Native American and no dogs are Native American.

[A]

How about this? Well, look up this. How about this? What? What Dogs were owned popularly by Native Americans.

[B]

But it's changed so much since what you.

[A]

I don't think it has. I'm saying. Okay, here we go.

[B]

Plains Indian dog.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Dog.

[A]

Well, popular historical.

[B]

And Chihuahua.

[A]

Them little bitches were going back then.

[B]

Oh, remember the Taco Bell dog?

[A]

Yeah, I remember it, dude, but this I'm talking about real Native.

[B]

That's the first famous dog I remember.

[A]

You think?

[B]

Except for the one that has a cigar that asks questions at the.

[A]

Oh, the.

[B]

You know what I'm talking about. He's not a real dog. So that. I guess it doesn't count.

[A]

That's a puppet. Yeah, good point. Hey, look.

[B]

Ask what puppets are Native American.

[A]

Can you look up what types of people think puppets are real dogs, please?

[B]

That's funny. I like that. Oh, that's the funniest. I'm glad we got one funny thing today. You piggybacked off my funny stuff, but you really. You hammered it.

[A]

Finally. Finally we'll play rally ball. I didn't know.

[B]

I forgot it was a puppet for a second. Okay, I will say that you didn't

[A]

see the guy's arm.

[B]

You see a guy's hand in a sock acting like a dog long enough, eventually it becomes a dog to you.

[A]

Well, look, if I see a guy's hand in an animal, I freaking. I know what's going on. It's don't seem right, but you know

[B]

that was the Neshoba County Fair shout out Hardy. Yeah, but we all know that's why they run with those chairs at the front. You know, they want to see the show.

[A]

That's probably what the first 911 call was all about right there. There's a man with his hand up an animal over here, but bring it back. Those Native American dogs, I do want to know what they were and I want to see a little jpeg of them or a drawing probably. If you can see that, please, I'm serious. I want to. Just want to know which dogs they were.

[B]

I'm going to get you a hand painted oil based painting of a dog with just Native American things on it. You know, I mean like a bow and arrow with feathers and everything.

[A]

That's actually not a bad.

[B]

And a coffee maker.

[A]

Plains Indian dogs. American Indian dogs Found across the Great Plains. These dogs were essential beasts of burden. They were used to pull V shaped wooden sleds called travois loaded with meat, household goods and children before horses were introduced. Wow. So they used to use dogs to do like field plowing. The Salish wool dogs kept by the Coast Salish tribes in Washington state and British Columbia. These small white, fluffy dogs were sheared like sheep. Their thick wool was spun into blankets and textiles. Dang.

[B]

Read the next one. One the xylophone.

[A]

This it the zala.

[B]

Welcome back to Puppy Talk. I'm Riley Green with my guest the

[A]

OV And I'm here also today. We're so happy. We're going to look at the bone structure of a zwas. And they are a native American dog popularized by the Aztecs and Mayans. These dogs were kept as pets, guards and physical heaters. Dude, imagine that.

[B]

I can't even imagine it.

[A]

What do you mean you get the dog tonight?

[B]

That's hairless. Mexican hairless dog is a wild looking dog.

[A]

That ain't nothing. Look at that little bad boy. Look at the one down there.

[B]

I say I saw him. I saw the one you're looking at. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Look at that little boss.

[B]

If you put him on that commercial with Willie Nelson playing, you were always on my mind. Yeah, I would give the money. Whatever it is.

[A]

You're always. He looks like he's got farm aids. Dude, that thing is run right there. And that was a pretty good joke.

[B]

Dude, that was really good. Made me close one eye for a while, like.

[A]

Yeah, I'm just joking. Shout out Willie Nelson and farm A. Dude. I just saw Billy Strings this weekend. Actually. I went there with him. Stephen Wilson Jr. Cheryl Crow, Willie Nelson, Lucas Nelson. They had a show in outside of Austin.

[B]

Lucas is great. Stephen Wilson's so talented.

[A]

So talented, man.

[B]

That's awesome. That's a cool. It'd be a cool thing to see.

[A]

Oh, it was just great to be over there, man. How was the acting? Let me think. It was. There was just like a lot going on. It took like. I wish I'd have had more time to like work on the character. And I just had. We were wearing a lot of hats.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So when you're doing a lot of stuff, it's a lot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you think it's not gonna be,

[B]

you know, we were. I was on tour and we were filming in Park City, Utah. For Marshall. So I was flying every week to Utah, playing three or four days or filming and go play shows and fly back. And I feel like I didn't know enough about the character. Like, I was getting the script for, like, that day, and I didn't know any of the backstory. So when I went and watched it, there were so many things I would have done differently if I'd have known this about the character or that. And I. I would have really enjoyed it if I could have just lived in that world and filmed for a month, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Also do. It's really bothering me a lot just to think about if you knew that that picture of that dog was on there and you went on a dog, Native American dog rant just so you could say farm aids. Because if that's the case, one, that'd be awesome. And two, how much preparation would that take? You know, I mean, like, that would be coming into an interview. Don't worry about learning anything about the guy that's here. Like me. You don't know any of my songs or anything, but if I can come up with a way to say farm age with the dog. Dog, that'd be awesome.

[A]

Yeah, I wouldn't. That's insane.

[B]

I don't know if I'd like the version of you better that did that or the one that just came up with it. I don't know.

[A]

It didn't. That's a good question, actually.

[B]

Either way, I like you.

[A]

That's a lot of thought. Well, thank you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I've been sitting here hoping you would.

[B]

I just decided just now. The coffee thing threw me off.

[A]

I knew the jury was out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. What do you think? Like, so one thing you said a little while ago, you said that like. Like, like, like achievements, right? Like they'll keep you going, but do you feel a lot of achievement? Like, if you achieve something, do you really feel it, or does it feel like. Like you don't strike me as the kind of guy that feels a lot of like. Like that sit there and relishes some. Like, if you, like, something does happen to you, like, you get an award, you get this certain thing. It's just like, part of the thing.

[B]

Yeah, I. I think you get a little numb to it, especially when you're so busy. You know, you get a little. You don't really, I guess, for lack of better term, sit back and appreciate it. I try to make myself live in the moment a little more. But for me, I look at a lot of the things that happen is like, Checks, you know, not that I had the goals of accomplishing those things, but I'm like, man, when I, you know, ACM Awards or whatever it was, we win a couple of awards, CMAs, whatever it is, I'm more looking at like, okay, I got a performance that's got to go well, I need to, you know, figure out the song and make sure it goes well when it does and I get the award and I got a little speech or something, I make sure that goes well and then I'm like, okay, all went well. And it's like a little bit of relief, but not necessarily like a, I accomplished this. And also that stuff's a little bit political. You know what I mean? The best song doesn't always win. And for me, I think I appreciate a lot more a sold out show. Like when fans are, are there and they're like singing a song that I wrote and it like, I can tell it means something to them. There's emotion in it. Like, that means more to me than an award.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, do you.

[A]

Yeah, I guess I'm just wondering, like, do you feel like you, like, you're good at like, feeling pride for yourself, like that sort of thing? You know, because that's something. Sometimes I' struggle with that. It's like, I don't think too much about it, but it's like, man, sometimes that is like, if somebody's like, man, do you feel proud of yourself? I don't feel that a lot of times. Does that make any sense to you?

[B]

I think that, I mean, it does make sense. I think that you got to find things in your life that you do feel proud of yourself about. Like, for me, it's not musical achievements. For me, I feel proud about my farm. I feel proud that I, you know, could put my parents in a nice house, brought my dad a truck, whatever. Those, like, I feel more for that than anything I've ever bought myself, right? And like, like my niece and nephew sending me pictures, my sister of them catching fish in my lake, like, I'm proud of like that and those are things that I know will last forever. And you know, I mean, there's a little bit of songwriting pride. I think when a song, when I write a song that, you know, I wrote by myself and it, I think it was good, it made me feel something. And when people relate to it, like, I feel proud about that, but that's a little short lived, you know, like a joke that really lands. I think that you got to find things in life that, that you constantly Want to be attached to, you know, for me, it's stuff like my farm and, you know, having a little place at the beach or something. My folks going down there. I. When people send me pictures at my beach house, saying, man, this was nice. We had a great time. That's what I feel proud of, you know, Things I never thought I'd have.

[A]

And where's that? I know you said. I think you said Panama City Beach. You got a place down there?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That was so funny.

[B]

What did you say? You said that was my favorite thing about you.

[A]

Well, my favorite thing that I heard, dude, when somebody's like, man, I got me a beach house down in Panama City. Beach at that just made me laugh, was because what I remember of it from being in, like, high school and college, it was just a place where we were just trashed kids.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, so to, like. So just to see a text or something. We got a beach house down there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I know it's a nice beach. I know the Gulf is nice, man. It's like. There's not a part of the Gulf that's not even, like, built up now. Man, it used to be so different.

[B]

Yeah, no, I'm in. I'm right outside of Panama City, and it's. It's. It's a little quieter where I'm at. But, yeah, now we all had our spring break trip to Panama City, and who's rowdy?

[A]

Yeah. Right now you got. I'm trying to think, was there something that you guys wanted to talk about that was specific? Oh, yeah.

[B]

I'm Raleigh.

[A]

Get ready with me. While Raleigh gives me a hard time.

[B]

You.

[A]

You got a new album that's coming out in September. September 18th, I think. Think.

[B]

Yeah, that's Just Me is the name of the album. I put three songs off the album out last week. A song called Go Again with a girl named Hannah McFarland's on that song. Song called Think is you drunk? It's my new single, Country Radio, and a song called My Way. There you go. And, yeah, the album's gonna come. We're gonna put a couple more songs off the album out between now and then, but album will be out 19 songs comes out September, so.

[A]

Hell, yeah. Do you feel any type of way about this album different than other albums? Do you feel. Do you feel pressure to get. Well, answer that question first, if you don't mind. Yeah. What's different about this album or what's kind of the same?

[B]

I think it's. Don't mind if I do that Record, I think, had a lot of different types of songs on it. I think that's something that I, I did well on that one, so I made sure this one was the same way. I got a lot of songs that sound like stuff I've written for years. Then I got a lot of songs that are a little different, you know, and I got fun beach songs, I got drinking songs, I got, you know, love ballads. And so I think that that's what I'm excited about the album is. I think, as a whole, it's a good project, but again, I try not to do anything too different in the sense of how I go about putting out music. You know, it's, it's always what I've done so far is kind of work.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What about, like, in your, like, outside of music life, outside of your pharma, stuff like that, do you think, like, you're a guy that probably has an easy time meeting ladies? Do you feel like, like settling down is in the future? Like, do you ever think about that? Like, you and I, we're both growing up?

[B]

Yeah. I feel like you, you, you know better than that because you're in that world too. Like, it's really not that easy to meet a girl when you're doing what we're doing. Like, I mean, I'm not gonna meet a girl to show, so, you know, I mean, I'm, I'm confined to the back, you know, on a bus, and I'm not going to meet a girl on Instagram, you know what I mean? And when you get to a place where people are, you know, it gets tough to know who you're meeting for what. And I always feel like if I met somebody that was, like, a fan, I feel like it would be tough for me to be like, you know, I would look at them like, you're probably the same way, too. As I go in a bar and when people start, you get a little bit, like, makes you anxious. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I, I, I don't mind being the center of attention at, like, a show or if I'm in a town, I'm playing a show and I go to a restaurant or bar down the street. But, like, I don't like being the center of attention when I'm not supposed to. That always makes me feel odd.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

I don't like to feel like if I went to another show and people were asking me for a picture and there was somebody else on stage, that would make me feel really, really rude, you know, so, like, a restaurant it's not that people ask me if a picture bothers me. It's just I don't want to be standing up, causing a scene.

[A]

Now I'm the center of attention.

[B]

Yeah, I don't like that. So you know when you go like, I'm not going to meet a girl at the bar. You've been to losers and duck blind with me and we sit on the back deck away from everybody, you know, kind of hiding.

[A]

Oh, dude, one night I sat out there by myself on losers back porch and I was watching Netflix back there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just watching two. I watched two episodes of something.

[B]

Yeah, I know. It's. It's. It's tough.

[A]

Is it cake? I think it was.

[B]

Yeah. I feel like if I could be in one place for a while, like live somewhere. That's another thing. I don't feel like I live anywhere. Got a house in Nashville and I stay there every once in a while. I got a farm in Alabama.

[A]

You always felt like that. Well, you must not. Your farm must feel like some type of way to you, but have you always felt like you didn't live somewhere? It's kind of interesting feeling, bro. I've never heard anybody say that. And I relate to that 100%. Yeah, I've never really felt like I lived somewhere.

[B]

Well, my farm is like, by the time I get there, I'm already thinking about I gotta leave again. Like, I'm there for two, three days. That's not long enough to really get settled in. You don't really know which way to go while you're there. There. But no, when I was doing construction work, playing shows on the weekends, I'd be home every night. Like that was n. That was. This always felt like home to me. But right now I just don't live in one place. You know, I'm flying to LA every week and on the road on the weekends and.

[A]

But if you think, if you keep it like that though, then you're pro. Do you think that there's a possibility that something could change? That you could like, you know, meet somebody, start a family with that type

[B]

of lifestyle, but not the way it is now? Yeah, it's going to have to change in the sense of like. Well, you talked about you're coming off tour and not knowing what to do with yourself. Yeah, I've got to get to that point. I would love to try to get bored of being at home. I just. I can't remember the last time I had a week off, you know, I mean, maybe around Christmas.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I Played shows until January. I mean, December 27th last year, you know, So, I mean, it's. It's. If I could. And right now, I could go take a month off, I could, but I just can't. With everything going on and the opportunities I've got, I can't make myself do it. So I'm sort of like. Like, grind right now, keep my nose down, say yes to everything. And. And then in a couple of years, things will stop doing this and they'll kind of playing off, and I'll have this career. And I'll say, all right, I'm gonna play 40 or 60 shows a year. I might film a little TV show or a movie or whatever, and then I can have a life outside of it, you know, but it's just tough to do right now.

[A]

But do you start to think about trying to.

[B]

Because.

[A]

Yeah, because here's the thing. Like, there will always be probably. I don't know if there will always be opportunities, but there's always, like, things you can say yes to, you know, like, do. Are you at a spot where you can kind of couture it a little bit more and kind of shape it how you want it?

[B]

I am.

[A]

Are you still. Are you still in a space where there's a little bit of fear of, like, if I don't do this stuff, you know?

[B]

The really fortunate thing I've got going on is right now my career is in such a upward slant that the things I'm getting asked to do, I can't say no to.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

They're hosting CMA Fest or being a coach on the Voice. I mean, you got to think, there's one country music artist that's a coach in the pool. I mean, like, Blake Shelton. Reeva's been on there. Like, it's. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. And you got to think about all the people in country music that are so lucky to be where they are and have the careers they are, and they don't even have that opportunity.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, so did you have to

[A]

audition for that opportunity?

[B]

They met with me and. And I. I sort of told them that, you know, they were considering me. I sort of told them that I got what they wanted. You know, they want somebody that's sort of funny, sort of dry, that cuts up. And. And they came to a show and I had a little Q and A with somebody beforehand, and we cut up, back and forth. And then I went on Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, and they got me on the couch and I. We had A little duck call moment. You know, it was funny, and that's how I got the job. You know, just goofing off, doing this.

[A]

Yeah. Did it feel. Does that feel like a. Like. I don't know. I mean, it's just interesting because it's kind of a mainstream thing, but it's also a thing that kind of, like, you're saying, yeah, like. Like it, like eternal. Like, it, like, kind of makes you eternal in a way. It, like, kind of puts you in a different perspective.

[B]

It's very household.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And it's very outside of the genre of country. So, you know, I would guess that most of my fans are country music fans. You know, I can tell, and I could tell it from the first day of filming. I'm the least famous person as a coach on the Voice right now with the people that are fans of the Voice. Kelly Clarkson's been on it forever. Adam Levine's been on it forever. Queen Latifah's on it with me, and she's iconically famous, you know, so the fact that I can tell I'm not as well known in that world only tells me how much I'll gain from it because it's putting me in front of so many different people, you know?

[A]

Did you ask somebody, like, do I think this is. Oh, how fast does a chair go?

[B]

I mean, a little like you would turn normally in office. Chair. Chair. If somebody said, hey, look at this Native American dog.

[A]

You know, I mean, get ready with me while. Look at this Native American dog.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's not. It's. It's not gonna throw you out of the chair.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. Got it. If you had someone sit on your lap, would it turn slower? You think it would turn the same amount?

[B]

I think it's got enough power. You could have two people on your lap and it wouldn't change the speed. I think you go much over that, you're gonna. Ball bearings issue, I imagine.

[A]

I don't. You know, what was the idea, Dude? I remember we talked one night about this for a few minutes. You said you had a different idea for how the chair could work. That would be interesting. What was it? I can't remember.

[B]

I think the chair should start facing the contestant.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And then you turn away when you don't like it. Okay. Now, what would be tough about that is you're going to be looking at them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, you know, like, they're going to take it. It's personal. Yeah. Because the surprise when you turn, you know, sometimes people don't look like they sound, you know, or it's not who or what you think it is.

[A]

Right. So there's a little more of a reveal there. But there'd also be a neat reveal if you turned away and you're like.

[B]

You just. You're sitting there and they're singing. They're just singing their little heart, you know? I mean, you just turn. Because here's the thing. Yes. That would be awkward for a split second.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because you'd be making eye contact when you press a button and turn away, but then you're facing the other way. You're good. Problem what we're doing now is. Is I'm facing away, and then when I turn to them or don't turn, they still turn your chair. And then you got to explain to them why you didn't turn. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, it's tough. Have you guys started filming it? And do you have, like, total carte blanche of what you think? Like, do they. Is there any. Like, are they intervening or is it.

[B]

It's. It's completely unscripted. They don't even tell you, like, what might be coming up next. We would do, like, 18 people a day, I think, think. And it's a long day. We get there at nine, leave it like, nine at night. We're done with the blind auditions now. But that was. It's not. It's not that hard to do because it is. It's this, you know, you're just cutting up. It does get tough to find new things to say when somebody's not quite.

[A]

Oh, yeah, dude. I could imagine that it's hard to think of anything. Well, yeah, if you're trying to think

[B]

musically, there's only so many terms, you know, And. And I'm sitting here, and I'm like. I don't want to say the same thing over and over again, but sometimes a lot of it is just nerves. A lot of it. I've heard people that are. You can tell, really talented singers, but they come on there. It's a very awkward thing. You got chairs facing away from me. The lights are on us on camera. It's on television. There's an audience there. And then they start singing, and they're really winded, which is a nerves thing, you know, you can't catch the breath. And then by the end, they'll. They'll get it going, you know? But dang, it's a. It's a. Yeah. I mean, it's people's dreams there, you know, and we're trying to make it Fun and make good television out of it, but. But that. There's also a lot of really great stories that come out of it. I'm sure. I'm excited about getting to work with the artists and all that.

[A]

Dude, I was staying at a hotel. I went, like, whenever they had the freeze in Nashville when everything got frozen or whatever, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I had been at the UFC that weekend, and the freeze was, like, coming on Monday, and everybody, like, wasn't sure what was gonna happen, you know, because you don't know if it's gonna be how bad it's gonna be. And so I was like, well, I'm just gonna get out of town. I was like, I'm just gonna go to. So I went to. To Hawaii for a few days because I was like, it was like, it's

[B]

not gonna freeze there, right?

[A]

Not gonna freeze. It was one place that had good weather, so I was like, I'm out. And I went with, like, a security guy, so I had somebody to go with me, right. Because otherwise I was going to be out there by myself. And he and I stayed at this place, and, like, it was all, like, people that was, like, getting married or whatever, you know, and then just me and him eating, like. Like, we had, like, five, like, romantic, like, nice d. Like, candlelit dinners. It's just me. Yeah. Just me and him.

[B]

Dude, your shoes. L up.

[A]

Dude, get ready with me. No issues. Didn't light up. Dude, neither minded.

[B]

Okay, hold on.

[A]

This is.

[B]

I don't want to do this on a side note, but what if you had shoes that were, like a mood ring?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So when you're fairly into somebody, think about how easy Dayton would be. Then shoes are just flashing red or green, I guess would be like. And she's like, oh, he likes me.

[A]

And what if hers are, like, flashing, just not flashing,

[B]

and hers are just indifferent. No, you need a. Like, really not into you. Needs to be a color. Red probably. Right.

[A]

Or hers start making that back up sounding when big trucks back up. Yeah. And she just starts moving. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, God, we should have that. Dude, we have freaking.

[B]

So however mood ring works is like the heat or blood flow, whatever. Your feet have to have the same thing. Yeah. 100.

[A]

Well, yeah.

[B]

You might not be able to wear socks with them, but big deal.

[A]

You know, some people say your feet like. Or like the.

[B]

The hands of your leg. Yeah. Now they say that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Dude, the hands of your leg is what. Is that what you meant?

[A]

Yeah. The eyes are the brains of the face.

[B]

Yeah. From a visual aspect. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I mean from all of it, but no. Dude, that's exactly what I'm saying. But no.

[B]

I think the ears are the elbow of your head.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

Come on, dude, think about it.

[A]

Nuh, I'm not thinking about anymore.

[B]

What are we talking about? I went on a shoe thing. You were doing good.

[A]

Have you been in the here. What was that? What? What we have. What were we talking about? It was pretty good.

[B]

Now you were talking about.

[A]

Look, dude, this whole thing is. We're just running a sting operation on the neighbors. Okay?

[B]

That's.

[A]

That's all this is about the.

[B]

He's home.

[A]

Yeah, he's home. Let's go. No, I was just going to think. Yeah, what were we talking about? I want to get through that one idea. Did we get through any ideas on this?

[B]

You know, I. I've had a good time. Do you think that the guy back there knows what's. I mean like what's going on? Is he like. You were talking about this dude, he

[A]

sat in here with so many types of people. Sometimes it's one way you. I'll say this, Trevin, do you feel like you ever know how one of these conversations gonna go?

[B]

Never know, man. What bothers me about it is I feel like I should be able to retrace my steps to why I was talking about light up shoes. Oh, you're going dinner with your security guard. Oh, romantic dinner.

[A]

And this is what happened. So right next door and they were doing the show that Luke Bryan is on.

[B]

Although America's Got Talent.

[A]

America's Got Talent.

[B]

American Idol.

[A]

American Idol.

[B]

With respect.

[A]

And he even called it America's Got Talent once and I corrected it.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yes, but now other people are correcting me because I caught it from him. Yeah, but what I'm saying is. Yeah, we're sitting there and right there they had the show. Anyway, it was just kind of interesting because for five days we watched them tape this thing right there on the beach.

[B]

Beach, yeah.

[A]

You know, so was.

[B]

Luke was in Hawaii.

[A]

Yeah, it was nice. I got to see him. I got to meet him. Oh, wait, I met him before. Oh, we went fishing like a couple weeks ago at his place.

[B]

He loves a fish hunt, golf and drink.

[A]

Dude, I'll say this.

[B]

He's one of what he does. He loves that.

[A]

What do you think? He likes to fish, golf and drink.

[B]

Fish hunt, golf and drink. He loves to do those things.

[A]

How do you know that?

[B]

He's wrote a song about it.

[A]

No, he didn't.

[B]

Yeah, it's called I think it's called Fish hunt, Golf, Drink, Drink.

[A]

And what else? And something else.

[B]

No, no, just those things.

[A]

Oh, that's it?

[B]

Yeah, you can play it if you want.

[A]

Is it good? It's called.

[B]

What kind of question is that?

[A]

It's.

[B]

I mean, it's country classic, I imagine.

[A]

Get ready with me while I listen to this.

[B]

Get ready with me while I go fish on. Now what would you wear for that?

[A]

Fish on golf drink.

[B]

Dude, I'd. You don't have to play it right now.

[A]

No, we don't play.

[B]

Just put it on here.

[A]

We'll play in our imagination.

[B]

I'll play it in the car on the way home. No, he. He gave me credit for him writing that song. Song? He gave you credit or he blamed me? One of the two, yeah.

[A]

Oh, he did?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I didn't even know that.

[B]

He texted me and said that we need to get together, it's been too long. And he said, fish hunt, golf, drink.

[A]

Oh, nice, dude.

[B]

So I was not there. I didn't write the song. Had nothing to do with the song. I didn't even send the text. I didn't even say that's a cool text or you should write a song. I didn't. Nothing to do with it. So I want to say that while we're here.

[A]

Well, I'm going to read some of it right here.

[B]

Okay. We just. Do me a favor. Read it like stand up poetry.

[A]

I have not heard this song.

[B]

Okay, well, so just, you know, like put a little feeling behind it. Some passion.

[A]

Wake up coffee, camo climb tree, wet line 18.

[B]

So you said wake up coffee. Like you were saying like good morning moon or good night. You did it like that. That was cool. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

[A]

Wake up coffee, camo climb tree, wet line 18. Fish hunt, golf, golf, drink. All fall, all spring, all summer long I'll be living it up and living it on a country boy's dream. Fish, hunt, golf, drink. I like it. It's a haiku.

[B]

It's got a little bit of the like the Caterpillar book to it.

[A]

It's got a hit of the tism.

[B]

Dude, have you ever read children's books?

[A]

Huh?

[B]

Like, I mean, out loud, like for audiobook. You'd be great at that.

[A]

Yeah. Thanks, man. Man.

[B]

Fish hunt, golf drink.

[A]

Fish hunt, golf drink. I wouldn't mind that. I'm trying to think. Well, I don't need to be drinking, but fishing, I would love to go.

[B]

I'm gonna take you duck hunt this year.

[A]

Will you really?

[B]

Yeah, you just gotta, like. I Know that you're as bad as me about scheduling stuff, but I'm not going through management to do it. So I'll just text you and be like, hey, man, I got these days.

[A]

You was a busy guy. You were down in Pensacola. You were going to somewhere else, Barbados or something. Well.

[B]

What? Yeah, I don't think I've been to Barbados, man. I. Yeah, well, I guess you didn't go Saskatchewan.

[A]

Oh, are you going there? She was making up names away Windy City.

[B]

Is that how you say it? No, that's a real place.

[A]

Saskatchewan.

[B]

It's in Canada.

[A]

No, it's beautiful up there. I've been up there. It's in. Is that next to Ed's? What's the one next to Edmonton?

[B]

Is that the Big Apple? No, it's not Edmonton. Yeah.

[A]

No, it's not.

[B]

That's what they. I mean, yeah. You don't know what they call it there.

[A]

Bro, I didn't know you were so funny. Dude, I thought.

[B]

I've been trying to tell you you. I was honestly going to tell you how funny I was at my birthday party when you just got two piece of cake and ran out the door.

[A]

Dude, I didn't even want to.

[B]

He literally. I saw his back. He was eating cake out the.

[A]

Dude, I came to your party. You hated it.

[B]

Seriously, thanks for coming.

[A]

I'm out of here. Thank you.

[B]

No, thank you for coming.

[A]

I left because you weren't having fun. Dude, you wouldn't. And also.

[B]

No, here's the thing. You came to my surprise party and you didn't even want to be there. That's how bad it was.

[A]

You didn't.

[B]

You were downstairs sitting by yourself in the back deck of losers, and you're like, I'd rather be down there than in this room with these people in this celebration.

[A]

Dude, I was watching a series. I was on the third episode. Yeah, you know, it's like people are trying their best, you know, not everything's gonna be just for you, Riley.

[B]

Well, you know what would be really fun is if you did a get ready with me to go to my birthday party.

[A]

Man, I ain't doing all that, bro. You got me messed up.

[B]

Let's do one. Get ready with me.

[A]

You got me messed up.

[B]

I'll pick what yours is. You can pick what mine.

[A]

We can't do a damn get ready with me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, that might not be a bad idea, really? If we thought of some good ones, dude. Wonder what yours would be. Dude, get ready with me while I'm. While I go be an somewhere that's what I would pick, dude.

[B]

I swear.

[A]

But what would you pick for mine, though?

[B]

Get ready with me while I go to the pound and try to find a Native American dog.

[A]

And I would bring, like, some sage or something with me.

[B]

I feel like you would go to a dog park and be like, so is this Native American dog park, like regular dogs or is there any dogs that are.

[A]

There's like a burial ground there or something. Maybe I would.

[B]

That's a talent to ask weird questions, though, to be able to come up with them. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah, I guess. I don't know, man. I don't have a ton. Like, a lot of times it's just like, you know, we're gonna catch up. You know, I know that you have a lot going on in your life, so I was glad to get to catch up. And yeah, I mean, doing something like the Voice, it feels like a big change because it's like, you know, you have this kind of like you're. You're a country musician, you're respected by people in that world, and you've had a lot of success in it. And. And then you kind of did something that's a bit more of a. Like a commercial appeal, which is awesome. And I understand, like, your. Your understand and I understand, like, your perspective on it. And I don't know, I just think it's interesting, you know, it's interesting how things come along in life because some people probably say no to things. Some people probably say yes to things. Things.

[B]

Well, the interesting thing about a career like we've got is you're kind of in charge of how successful you can be. I mean, yeah, things have to go well. People have to, like, whatever art you create, whether it's comedy, music, whatever. But, like, if you don't go do the stuff, you're not going to get the opportunity. And I can't tell you how many things I've gone and done that necessarily on paper were not going to be beneficial or financially worth doing. But there was an opportunity there that led to something else. That led to something else. That how the Voice was, all the act and stuff that I've been able to do so far. And, you know, I mean, think about stand up comedians. How many of them that are, you know, household names have been really successful only have done stand up. They've all acted or been on some other platform. Saturday Night Live, whatever. Even the. Even the, like, guys that were just great stand up guys like Eddie Murphy and Dave Chappelle, and they all had Other avenues after. I mean, yeah, you almost know Eddie Murphy better now for his act. Acting, you know, and that's a great, great stand up comedian.

[A]

So I bet a lot.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I bet there's a

[A]

lot of people that wouldn't know that he was a stand up comedian.

[B]

That's what I mean. And if you didn't get your start on Saturday Night Live, that's kind of how you branch out and do something else. Because I feel like in comedy would probably be much worse because you have to come up with so much more material. Whereas music, you can put an album out and tour for a year off of it and still play some of those songs for years to come. Yeah, but you have to be, be a whole lot more creative regularly in comedy. But if that's all you did, they would get really monotonous after a while. You get tired of it. I got, the only time I ever got tired of music was 2014, 15, 16 in there. And I was playing the same club, same venues, over and over again playing the same songs. And it got to be where I just didn't look forward to it. You know, as long as things are growing and you can find other things.

[A]

Like was there ever a tour that you did that you got asked to go on that you just chose not to? Are there different tours that you get asked to do? How often does that happen, happen with it with artists?

[B]

I've been really fortunate that I've had a pretty good touring business for the last 10 years. So I, I have to turn down some tours because I can make more money touring on my own. Plus I feel like there's a little bit of, if you get caught in that opening act role, it's hard to get out of it if you never go because, you know, like what's open for somebody's great because one, you got guaranteed money, the venue. If it snows and the venue shuts down, you still get paid. You don't have to pay for production, cater, anything like that. So there's no overhead and you get in front of new fans. So it's a great way to get some exposure. But if you don't go play your own show, you're not building a fan base.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Because people have to be there to see you. So for me, I always, if I went open for somebody and played a stadium or an arena, I'd go back and play a club there, you know, after, and try to get the most out of it if I could. But yeah, I don't, I don't do any real open slots anymore. So it's nice.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no. I mean, it's definitely nice. And sometimes I forget about the work that I have done. I forget about all the spots that I played. I forget, like, I forget about. About all the time I put in on things.

[B]

So you get there and you remember something about the backstage of the green room. Looks familiar. Like, I've been here.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Happens to me all the time.

[A]

Yeah. Right now you have the Cowboy as it Gets tour. Who's opening up? Who's working with you on it?

[B]

Justin Moore. Randy Houser. Oh, nice guy named drake. White Hannah McFarland. McKenzie Carpenter. I kind of try to have a parade of first, first, first of four, and second of four guys and girls just because I like having people out that, you know, give an opportunity to get in front of a bunch of fans. I'm really fortunate that all these shows are selling out. We've got big crowds and.

[A]

So cool, dude.

[B]

Yeah, man.

[A]

God, I wish I could freaking sing, you freak. Sorry.

[B]

You're pretty good turkey call, though.

[A]

Yeah, but all I'm gonna be. Yeah, but I ain't me. You know what I'm saying? What a turkey call.

[B]

I saw you sing my song.

[A]

Oh, you gonna meet with Ella.

[B]

You sang at the stage. Yeah, dude, I missed it. We did. We got there the next day, I think. I think. And then we got there winded out. Yeah. We didn't get to play.

[A]

I thought you were there. Yeah, dude, that was great, bro.

[B]

You tell me you're nervous.

[A]

Yes, I was freaking nervous, dude, that's such a.

[B]

That's such a.

[A]

Well, it was such an easy song

[B]

in the sense of the crowd knows every word and the talking verses and all that. You know, it's a little easier to do, but I'll bring people up out of the crowd to do it sometimes.

[A]

Oh, you will?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, dude, that's cool, bro. Yeah. Well, the tough part was, like, I knew the song, but then when you have a responsibility to do the words, you're like, you know, it kind of sets you, like, all right, now I have, like, I got to do the response.

[B]

You start thinking about it, right?

[A]

Yeah. And then the craziest part. This part was kind of funny. My. My buddy, we wrote the call the notes down or the words on the cards. We wrote the words on the cards on a poster boards. And. And so he's standing there with him by the side of the stage, just in case, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then. But I didn't need him. I started doing good in my brain, and I didn't need him. And so he starts shaking the card like he's getting pissed, and I'm not looking at the cards.

[B]

He made these cards? Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I'm like, dude, I don't need them.

[B]

Yeah, you're here for happy that you didn't need them. Right.

[A]

You should have just been.

[B]

I was a little selfish.

[A]

He should have been ripping them up and throwing them in the air or something. But he's sitting there like, you know, and just giving me, like, a bunch of grief or whatever, you know, just like a bunch of poster board grief or whatever. And so, yeah, I don't know. That was kind of a lie, but. Oh, and then it was windy and my hat kept coming off, and I

[B]

kept having a cowboy hat on.

[A]

Yeah. I kept having to get it, and I was like, dang, I wish they made a really heavy hat or a.

[B]

Could have went that route.

[A]

A chin strap.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Come on.

[B]

Your cowboy hat. Come on, man.

[A]

You think I'm aware? Cowboy hat with a chin strap on it.

[B]

Desperate times, man. I can't. I can't read lyrics.

[A]

You're hilarious.

[B]

You know what?

[A]

Wait, you can't what?

[B]

I can't read lyrics and sing thing. I've got to just know it, you know, like a teleprompter or whatever. I can't.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And so if I look out in the crowd and read a sign or something while I'm. It just. I'll forget who I am. It messed me all up. Can't read anything. Can't look at anybody's sign in the crowd when I'm singing.

[A]

Well, it's two different things. Totally. I would rather know. I would rather just guess than be reading something, you know, Just take my chances with whatever is going to come up in my brain, but.

[B]

Which could be anything.

[A]

Yeah. Which is kind of the best thing. Your brain is just like.

[B]

Sometimes it is.

[A]

Yeah. It's like a glass of champagne. Somehow a bubble just comes right up. And that's a new idea or something like that. I love that. That's my favorite thing about being alive, is just seeing kind of what comes out of your brain, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And other people's brains. I think it's interesting. But, yeah, man, it was. I felt lucky to get to do y' all song. So. Yeah, I was happy.

[B]

I got to see some clips of it. He did good.

[A]

I was happy to get to do it. Oh, dude. Once I got out there and. And realized that I could sing thing, it was over, dude. I was like I was a. I was. I was a singer.

[B]

We'll find one you can do with me and we'll. You come out to show. We'll get you out to do one.

[A]

Yep. I like that. Get ready with me.

[B]

Get ready with me to go sing with Raleigh Green tonight. There we go.

[A]

Dude, you have your new album. It's out on the 18th. Yep, that's it. September 18th. That's just me. You have three singles that are already out from it.

[B]

Yes, sir.

[A]

Excellent. And. And the Big As It Gets to Her. No Cowboy as It Gets tour.

[B]

Just wait on the slide. It'll be easy. I'm Riley Green and it's the Cowboys that gets tour in 2026.

[A]

You know what this is like? This is like, honestly, when you're having a rocky day at work and one of your boys shows up and helps

[B]

you out, I thought that's what this is.

[A]

Oh, it's. That's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, that's exactly what this is. So thank you, bro. Yeah, thank you for showing.

[B]

You know, if you ever need me to come in when you got somebody cool here that you're doing, I can just sit on the couch and, you know, I mean, just help, dude.

[A]

Just come and do my part. Yeah, dude, you're good at this, man. You're really good at this.

[B]

I watched your show, man, this past weekend with the Ovan. I watched it.

[A]

I appreciate that, man.

[B]

Say some creative stuff on here.

[A]

Yeah, we have over time, you know,

[B]

sometimes it's not all goals, but, man, if you sit here and talk for what, two hours, there's bound to be something funny in there.

[A]

Oh, there's fun stuff, man. I mean, I don't know. It's been interesting. Sometimes you find different things. Sometimes you learn stuff, sometimes you don't learn stuff.

[B]

No, I enjoy that. It's. There's some seriousness in there, you know?

[A]

Oh, yeah. I mean, sometimes you get a lot more serious. It just kind of depends, you know, I think I can't tell if it has to do with my energy or it has to do with the guest energy. It's probably just both of us and whatever's going on, you know? Know.

[B]

Well, I feel like there's a lot of places where me and you are in a similar spot with life outside of our careers.

[A]

Yeah. You know, so maybe we didn't talk about that enough. We did okay, though.

[B]

Yeah. Well, we can do like a real deep thing, you know, we just share one mic and sit Indian style on the floor with just candles and do it on. You know what I mean?

[A]

Oh, I know what. I'll bring my Indian dog with me.

[B]

If you can get your hands on one.

[A]

Yeah, there's one out there. Riley Green, man, thanks so much, bro. Thanks for the music. Thanks for the entertainment. Thanks for the entertainment today. Dude. You're funny guy, bro. I didn't realize that. And I know that's a weird thing to say to somebody else, but thanks for making me laugh. That's what I mean. I appreciate.

[B]

Appreciate you, man.

[A]

That was fun and congrats on all the success and I'll have to get out there and check out one of the shows this year something the biggest it gets tour. You're going to some you're going to some good spots. God, yeah, I'll be out there. Riley Green, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, brother.

[B]

Appreciate it, man.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Cornerstone.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

But when I reach that ground? I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones but it's gonna take.