E537 Miranda Lambert

Summary

Podcast Summary: "This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von" Episode E537 featuring Miranda Lambert

Release Date: October 10, 2024

In Episode E537 of "This Past Weekend with Theo Von," host Angie Hicks sits down with Grammy Award-winning country artist Miranda Lambert. The conversation delves deep into Miranda's personal life, career, songwriting process, and her philanthropic efforts, offering listeners an intimate glimpse into the life of one of country music's reigning queens.

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Personal Life and Relationships

Miranda Lambert opens up about her relationship with her husband, Brendan, a retired NYPD officer. Their bond is strengthened by their shared backgrounds, both coming from families of first responders. Miranda shares a lighthearted anecdote about dressing up as a police officer and a donut for Halloween, highlighting the playful dynamics of their relationship.

"[02:08] Miranda Lambert: I wore his uniform and I made him be a donut... he was pouting the whole time."

She affectionately describes Brendan, emphasizing his handsomeness and the mutual respect they share. The conversation underscores how Brendan grounds Miranda, providing a stable and honest presence in her life.

Early Life and Career Beginnings

Miranda reminisces about her early days, growing up near Shreveport, Louisiana. Her first job at a department store named Bells during the Christmas season was short-lived, as her passion for music soon took over. At 17, struggling financially, she pivoted entirely towards her music career, abandoning conventional jobs she found unfulfilling.

"[05:58] Miranda Lambert: I just started singing and playing. I was 17, but I needed... I had to make the music business work because this is not for me."

Her 21st birthday holds a special place in her heart, spent at Sam's Town casino in Shreveport with her grandmother, marking a pivotal moment in her transition into the music industry.

Songwriting and Musical Collaborations

A significant portion of the discussion focuses on Miranda's approach to songwriting. She emphasizes the importance of collaboration, highlighting that not all her hits are self-written. Songs like "House That Built Me" and "Little Red Wagon" were penned by other talented songwriters, showcasing the collaborative spirit of Nashville's music community.

"[27:06] Miranda Lambert: A lot of times, yeah. And I... I was like, let's write songs. And so we did."

Miranda praises her collaborator Aaron Raytier, describing him as both funny and talented, and credits him for contributing memorable lines to her songs. She believes that embracing outside contributions enriches her music, allowing her to deliver authentic and relatable songs to her audience.

Hobbies and Personal Interests

Breaking away from her musical persona, Miranda introduces her new hobby—mounted shooting. Started at age 30, this adrenaline-filled activity involves shooting revolvers from horseback at moving targets. She finds therapeutic value in working with horses, describing them as majestic creatures that offer a sense of peace and grounding.

"[17:17] Miranda Lambert: So you have two revolvers... it's very challenging. Super fun, though."

Miranda's enthusiasm for mounted shooting reflects her adventurous spirit and desire to continually challenge herself outside of her music career.

Touring Experiences and Industry Insights

Miranda shares her experiences touring with country legends like Toby Keith, recounting the tough-love approach he employed on the road. These early touring experiences were instrumental in shaping her work ethic and performance style. She contrasts the all-male tours of her early days with her current inclusive approach, emphasizing growth and learning from seasoned artists.

"[23:44] Miranda Lambert: He was really himself... kind of an outlaw in his own way."

The conversation also touches upon the evolving landscape of Nashville, noting its transformation into a bustling city while retaining its honky-tonk roots. Miranda appreciates the thriving country music scene but acknowledges the growing pains, such as infrastructural strains from increased tourism.

Philanthropy: Mutt Nation Foundation

A heartfelt segment of the podcast is dedicated to Miranda's philanthropic endeavors. Alongside her mother, she founded the Mutt Nation Foundation in 2009, which has raised over $10 million. The foundation focuses on promoting pet adoption, spaying/neutering initiatives, and supporting animal shelters, especially in the wake of natural disasters like Hurricane Helene.

"[68:22] Miranda Lambert: We've raised over $10 million since then. $10 million."

Miranda discusses various fundraising strategies, including benefit concerts like "Music for Mutts," and partnerships with organizations like Tractor Supply and Greater Good. Her commitment to animal welfare underscores her compassionate nature and desire to give back to the community.

Reflections on Art and Personal Growth

Towards the episode's conclusion, Miranda reflects on the nature of art and personal evolution. She discusses the challenges of staying authentic while evolving as an artist and the importance of embracing new opportunities. Miranda expresses her admiration for songwriters who patiently perfect their craft, drawing parallels to her own journey of continuous learning and adaptation.

"[37:52] Miranda Lambert: It's a lesson to all of us to, like, be patient till it's right."

She encourages embracing vulnerability and growth, both in her career and personal life, highlighting the delicate balance between maintaining one's roots and exploring new horizons.

Closing Thoughts

As the conversation wraps up, Miranda and Angie share lighthearted banter, reminiscing about nostalgic music moments and playful interactions during the podcast. Miranda reaffirms her dedication to music and her openness to new ventures, concluding with an optimistic outlook on her future projects and personal endeavors.

"[83:04] Miranda Lambert: It is called Postcards from Texas."

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Notable Quotes:

• Miranda Lambert [02:08]: "I wore his uniform and I made him be a donut... he was pouting the whole time."
• Miranda Lambert [05:58]: "I just started singing and playing. I was 17, but I needed... I had to make the music business work because this is not for me."
• Miranda Lambert [17:17]: "So you have two revolvers... it's very challenging. Super fun, though."
• Miranda Lambert [23:44]: "He was really himself... kind of an outlaw in his own way."
• Miranda Lambert [37:52]: "It's a lesson to all of us to, like, be patient till it's right."

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Conclusion

This episode of "This Past Weekend with Theo Von" offers a comprehensive look into Miranda Lambert's multifaceted life. From her deep-rooted relationships and philanthropic efforts to her relentless pursuit of personal growth and artistic authenticity, Miranda shares candid insights that resonate with both her fans and aspiring artists. The engaging conversation not only highlights her achievements but also her humility and dedication to making a positive impact beyond the music stage.

Transcript

[Angie Hicks]

Hi, I'm Angie Hicks, co founder of angie. One thing I've learned is that you buy a house, but you make it a home. And for decades, Angie's helped millions of homeowners hire skilled pros for the projects that matter. Get all your jobs done [e-mail] I have some new tour dates to tell you about this week. I'll be in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, La Crosse, Wisconsin, Green Bay, Wisconsin and Moline, Illinois, Colorado Springs, Casper, Wyoming, Billings, Montana, Missoula, Montana, Bloomington, Indiana, Columbus, Ohio, Champaign, Grand Rapids, Lafayette, Louisiana and Beaumont, Texas. All tickets through TheOvaughn.com TOR and thank you for your support. Today's guest is a Grammy award winning country musician. She has a new album called Postcards from Texas and you know her songs, the House that Built Me, Drunk, January Heart. The list goes on. Red Wagon. I'm really grateful today to get to spend time with one of the queens of the country music industry, Ms. Miranda Lambert.

[Miranda Lambert]

Shine that light on me I'll sit.

[Angie Hicks]

And tell you my stories.

[Miranda Lambert]

Shine I know and I will find a song I.

[Angie Hicks]

Now. Nice to see you today. Miranda Lambert.

[Miranda Lambert]

Hello.

[Angie Hicks]

It's an honor.

[Miranda Lambert]

Well, thanks for having me. Yeah, it's a cozy little place.

[Angie Hicks]

It's a pleasure. Yeah. Yeah, we, we. Yeah, we try to keep it cozy. It's nice. Kind of get to, you know, just catch up with folks and see what's going on. I've met your husband a couple times.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, he said that y'all randomly on like two or three planes together.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, we've been. We're like kind of, I guess, air buddies or whatever. I don't know if there's a term for it or whatever.

[Miranda Lambert]

I love that.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

He said to tell you hi.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, I appreciate it.

[Miranda Lambert]

He's golfing. Priorities. Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. Well, he's just dang handsome, too. That's a thing. I see that guy and I'm like, God, I gotta get some conditioner or whatever.

[Miranda Lambert]

He is. He is a. He's a pretty one.

[Angie Hicks]

God, he is. He's like a. And he used to be a cop, right?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yep. He's a retired NYPD officer.

[Angie Hicks]

And did you. You guys ever played cops and robbers or anything like that?

[Miranda Lambert]

No, but. What? Last year or two years ago for Halloween, I got. I wore his uniform and I made him be a donut and it was awesome. He. Cause he's super fit and doesn't even eat donuts. And I was like, I'm going to be a cop and you're going to be a donut. And he Was like, that's just cliche. That's stupid. I was like, no, it's awesome. He was pouting the whole time. He was like, I don't want to be a donut, dude.

[Angie Hicks]

Everybody wants to be a donut.

[Miranda Lambert]

Exactly.

[Angie Hicks]

I couldn't even imagine not wanting to be a donut. Yeah. I think everybody's always just wanted to sit in a box with 11 of their buddies, you know?

[Miranda Lambert]

Well, it's funny because that whole, like, cliche or whatever, but I was like, oh, yeah. And I was worried I wouldn't fit in his uniform, but I did. Thank God.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

I was like, I can't fit this uniform. We have bigger issues. Like, it's gonna be a problem. Yeah, it was fun. My dad's. My whole family is first respond. And so is his family. So we had that in common right away.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, sweet.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yep.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. Did you guys ever. Has he ever, like, tased or anything like that, or is that a crazy thing?

[Miranda Lambert]

No, no. And he has handcuffs. And I'm like, that. That would be the one time that the key was gone.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

Like, we're not ever doing that. Never. It's not. It's not gonna happen.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, we got tased one time. Oh, if you're ever in Shreveport or whatever and you're, I guess, have some free time or whatever, they will. They'll tase you there. The officers there.

[Miranda Lambert]

They fun.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, for. Yeah, for. There's not a lot to do there, I guess, and. But, yeah, they'll do it.

[Miranda Lambert]

I grew up, like, right. Like an hour from Shreveport.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, you did?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, I used to play over there in little bars and casinos coming up. I actually had my 21st birthday in Shreveport. No, that's pretty red.

[Angie Hicks]

Where did you. Where'd you guys go? To a casino?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, we were at Sam's Town, I think my grandma was a VIP there. Cause she spends a lot of money on the slots. So she got the limo and all that. And I went with my grandma and all her friends for my 21st birthday.

[Angie Hicks]

And her friends.

[Miranda Lambert]

Her friends, they're wild, though. They were wild.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, yeah. A lot of these seniors, now, you can't. Well, you see them in the pools and everything, and they have those weights and they're just doing it all. Every time I see seniors, they're just getting crazier and crazier. Do they have a senior citizen dating website? I wonder.

[Miranda Lambert]

I don't know. But my grandma's. My granddad would just give her, like, allowance, like, stay out of my hair money. And so she would just Go blow it at the casino. It's the best.

[Angie Hicks]

Was she one of those grandmas that, like, at the end of the year, they buy all the Christmas gifts?

[Miranda Lambert]

Oh, yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

And they all say, like, Sam's Town or whatever on the back.

[Miranda Lambert]

And she would always, like, buy and then wrap them and forget that she did it. You know what I mean? And she would be like, we'd open the present, she'd be like, I don't. I don't know when I bought that or what it is.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah, they used to tase us over there, man. They would.

[Miranda Lambert]

It was real weird.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, it was kind of crazy. But I think you can get a taser now. Like, you can even get one on teemu. That also, like, beats eggs and stuff. Like, there's every. They just have everything now, you know.

[Miranda Lambert]

I don't think I want to be.

[Angie Hicks]

Taste, you know, I'll say this honestly, it wasn't. It was way easier than I thought.

[Miranda Lambert]

Well, I'm glad you took one for the team. Glad that's over with. Settled.

[Angie Hicks]

So your 21st birthday, you guys went over there. Was that like, the biggest city close to you guys?

[Miranda Lambert]

We're right between Dallas and shreveport. So, like, I 20 my little hometown, Lindale, Texas, is like the halfway point where you, like, stop it for gas emburgy, you know what I mean?

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

So I. I was there a lot. And Dallas was. Dallas was our, like, city.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, yeah?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

What was your first job over there?

[Miranda Lambert]

I worked at Bells. Oh, my first singing gig.

[Angie Hicks]

No, your first, like, human job.

[Miranda Lambert]

Like, first, like, my first big girl job. Well, I start. I worked at this little department store called Bells for, like, the Christmas season. They hired me to wrap presents, which I'm terrible at. So then they were like, these presents are terrible. So they put me in the back room to, like, sort things. And I only lasted two weeks. I was like. I just started singing and playing. I was 17, but I needed, like, I was not making any money. I was like, starving musician. And so I tried for that, like, you know, that like, holiday season, extra money, and realized quickly, like, I've got to make the music business work because this is not for me.

[Angie Hicks]

Because that's not it.

[Miranda Lambert]

No, it was just not. I wasn't good at anything else. So I was like, yeah, if they.

[Angie Hicks]

Put you in the back to sort, that's not even.

[Miranda Lambert]

I know. I couldn't even use well, because someone lady asked me, like, does this look good on me? And I told her my truth. I was like, not really. They're like, that's not how it works. You kind of have to lie. I'm like, oh.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. I'm trying to think if I. Well, I used to work at a pizza parlor for a while and we got late. There were cutbacks there or whatever and I don't know how there could be cut back. It's like there was four of us working there, but I guess they had like cutbacks or whatever. So a couple of us got laid off. But I wonder if I ever worked at a department store.

[Miranda Lambert]

I couldn't work around pizza. I just. I love it too much.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

We had the pizza in.

[Angie Hicks]

In your town.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yep. And had the salad bar and had little corn dogs on it. And I was really happy about that.

[Angie Hicks]

They put corn dogs on the salad bar.

[Miranda Lambert]

I love a salad bar.

[Angie Hicks]

That's unprecedented. Oh, I love a salad bar pizza. Used to have a great one.

[Miranda Lambert]

You remember it was like Pizza Hut but like small town brand Pizza inn.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh yeah, Pizza Inn. Did they throw the pizza in the air or not?

[Miranda Lambert]

No, no, nobody knows how to do that. Oh, now I know I've actually seen it in real time now because my husband is from New York City.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

So I've had like legit pizza now. Yeah, not pizza in.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, we had a place. I'm trying to think of what it was called and. But they had a big window there and some dude, I think he was a magician, but they gave him like daytime work throwing those pizzas in the air because I think it just fit in people's heads. Like, oh, that's magic. And so he. Oh, he was. I think he really got the hang of it and it was awesome. People would come from miles around to watch him. You know, you'd see kids just out there just licking lollipops, just staring at him, looking at this doe wizard.

[Miranda Lambert]

Small town entertainment is pretty simple. It's easy to. It's easy to come up with.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh yeah. When the fair came to town, that was always exciting. We could go to the fair a day before and for 50 cents you could. You were kind of a guinea pig. They didn't tell you that. But it was like, come on over and you can do a ride for 50 cents. So we lived right down the street from the fairground. So we'd walk down there, dude. And you would just get rattled. Electrocuted.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, I don't, I don't trust small town fair rides.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

I just don't.

[Angie Hicks]

And I think that's probably a wise choice for you, you know?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. How you seem Like a thrill chaser. Because you got tase and you ride the 50 cent ride like you're just going for it.

[Angie Hicks]

I've been in some bad relationships. Yeah. Maybe I'm a thrill chaser, you know, I think. Yeah. If you stack all those things up, how does a guy. This is news. So how does. Because your husband was just like a regular police officer, right? How does a regular police officer meet a celebrity comfortably? Do you. Is that a weird thing to ask? Kind of.

[Miranda Lambert]

No, I mean, honestly, like, we're kind of from the same fabric, so it was the weirdest part of it all is the language barrier at first, honestly, because he's New York accent and you hear mine. So it was like any of my Southern phrases, any of the, like, redneck stuff I say, he's like, well, I don't understand what you're saying. So. But we just met. We met by chance, literally on the street. And, like. And six years later it worked out.

[Angie Hicks]

But was. Was there moments where he was like, you know, this is like. Because I feel like if I'm a regular guy, say if I met, you know, Julia Roberts or trying to think of somebody else, Queen Elizabeth or something, and I'm trying to date them, I would. I wonder if there'll be moments in my head where I'm like, what. How do I do this? Like, you know, do I put on a special cologne? Like, what do. How do I just. Because there's.

[Miranda Lambert]

Brendan does wear the polo, like the old school one.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, he does.

[Miranda Lambert]

Bottle.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, yeah, that green bottle with the little gold.

[Miranda Lambert]

The red one.

[Angie Hicks]

I don't know if I've seen that one. That might be the sport.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, maybe it is.

[Angie Hicks]

Remember when sport came out?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. Oh, did you ever wear Cool Water?

[Angie Hicks]

No, I didn't, but.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yes, you did.

[Angie Hicks]

No, some. Some of the fancier kids kind of did. Guys that had, like, game with women wore it.

[Miranda Lambert]

That's why I was like, did you. Are you lying? Did you wear the pull out or say it?

[Angie Hicks]

I didn't have game with women. I was like. I was always the guy who, like, would, like, would help my buddy open all the Valentine's. Like, on Valentine's in school, they would have, like the Key Club or whatever would come in, and if somebody bought you a Valentine, they'd give them all out in the room at the same time. So my buddy would get like 11 of them and I wouldn't get any, but he'd let me, like, hold a couple of them on my. On my desk or whatever.

[Miranda Lambert]

Would feel good.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. And it's like, hey, hold.

[Miranda Lambert]

Isn't it, like. Wasn't it, like, the one where you get everybody in the class one so everybody feels love?

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, when we were kids, but when it got into junior high, it got like, okay. Somebody had to go real. Yeah, yeah. And you would get him, and he would just have a stack of me. Look like the. Damn.

[Miranda Lambert]

You're gonna get so many Valentine's now. It's gonna be weird because you talked about it.

[Angie Hicks]

Good point, huh? Yeah. Valentine's were nice. My mom wouldn't get us, like, something that she would, like, leave by our, like, bed or something in the morning. Like, that was pretty sweet, though. But. Yeah. Was there ever a moment where he was just, like. Where it just seemed like nerve? Like, he's like, I'm a regular guy and you're. You're a regular person. But then there's always like, a. I think there's a fear in, like, a regular guy's head of, like, how you would behave around a celebrity, I guess.

[Miranda Lambert]

I think.

[Angie Hicks]

Does it make any sense?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. And it definitely is an adjustment to, like, just jump into country music world and move to Nashville. I mean, he, like, retired. You know, he was eight years on the department, and he, like, sort of made the choice. We made the choice together of, like, we gotta be together, you know, and.

[Angie Hicks]

You gotta trade your gun in for a harmonica or whatever is a big deal, I think.

[Miranda Lambert]

Well, thank God he didn't. Cause I don't know if he's. He loves music. He's not necessarily musical. He did write a song on my new record. He's a co writer on a song on my new record. Yeah, I had him writing during 2020. We were all doing anything during 2020. Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, if college were writing songs.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. I was like, let's write songs. And so we did. And he was pretty good. And I guess because, I mean, growing up in New York City and, like, being a cop on the street in Times Square, like, you have a lot of life lived, you know? And so this record, he has a co Write on my song called Damn it Randy. And he had some of the best lines in the song.

[Angie Hicks]

Really?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. So he.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, wait, I've heard that one. Like, in a hurricane.

[Miranda Lambert]

That was his line.

[Angie Hicks]

Nuh.

[Miranda Lambert]

Flying a cot in a hurricane. I was like, dang it.

[Angie Hicks]

That is a good line.

[Miranda Lambert]

It is a good line. But, yeah, you know, I think that, like, all the celebrity part out of it. I don't care about that stuff, you know? So, yeah, it just made it. We're Just real and regular. And like, like I said, both being from first responder families, like, we kind of grew up the same.

[Angie Hicks]

There were some glue.

[Miranda Lambert]

Different places. Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. That's what I'm trying to do. I'm just trying to inspire, like, regular men out there to think that they could handle it if they met a celebrity person in that world, that they. Everything could be cool.

[Miranda Lambert]

They can. And you know what? It's like, I'm such a big stickler of, like, don't surround yourself with yes people. And so having a husband that's just a regular guy, like, just being a cop in New York City and, like, he comes into my world, but he tells me the truth. He, like, calls me on my shit. He tells me the truth. He doesn't sugarcoat. He sees everything for what it is. And I really appreciate that. Like, there's the fact that he's not in my industry at all and just really kind of, it's a straight shooter. It's like, it's such a blessing to have in my life. And so I'm glad that I married somebody that just, like, is. Is that way. That is just a regular blue collar guy that sort of comes in and enhances my world and speaks a lot of truth into my life. So y'all go. All y'all regular dudes.

[Angie Hicks]

Go.

[Miranda Lambert]

Go get it. We need you.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, we need you. That's a great call.

[Miranda Lambert]

He also married, like, a country singer and a horse girl. And so, I mean, he signed up for a lot. Yeah, horse girls were like, we're a different breed.

[Angie Hicks]

Like, oh, yeah, dude. I just met. I went to a therapy place for, like, a week, and they had horses out there. And one of the therapists, like, worked with the horses. She was like the horse therapist lady or whatever. Like, the.

[Miranda Lambert]

It's amazing.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. And so, like, she had me out there hugging this big old horse, I don't think. I don't know what his name was.

[Miranda Lambert]

I've done that too. The equine therapy, it's amazing.

[Angie Hicks]

Like, I thought it was crazy, but it's really neat.

[Miranda Lambert]

It teaches you so much, like, where they're like, put your hand where you feel like the. Put your hand where you feel most drawn to the horse and, like, immediately put my hand on its heart.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh.

[Miranda Lambert]

I didn't even know where a horse heart was. Now that I think about it. Like, I was like, I don't know where it is in that huge chest, you know? It's pretty cool.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, I had to take the horse. I was trying to Take his pulse. And I had to do with both of my hands like that. Like, yeah, horses are crazy. They just got like 60 inches of neck on them. But yeah, it was kind of wild because at first she's like, okay, approach the horse and let it know you're okay. So then I'm like four feet from this horse. I think his name was Knuckles or, like Mitten or something, and. And I'm like, hey, horse, I'm just letting you know I'm here. Like, it was almost like meeting an alien, because I just never even been around a horse, like, in that much, like, proximity, like, just being a horse in a pen and. But by the end, I got to take the horse for a walk and stuff, and I felt like it was cool because at first I was super nervous. And as it went along, it kind of like, yeah, I kind of like my idol came down.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. You know, and it. And that. They're so therapeutic just being around them in general. But, like, they're just majestic creatures. And I heard. I think they can hear your heartbeat from like five miles away or something.

[Angie Hicks]

Like, oh, my God.

[Miranda Lambert]

Pervert crazy.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, that's crazy, dude. I mean, that's eavesdropping.

[Miranda Lambert]

I know, but they could sense everything. It's like they tell you the truth about you before you even know your own truth. You're like, ah. I didn't grow up around horses. I didn't start till I was 30. And I just wanted to do something that scared me a little. And I always wanted to be with that cowgirl. Like, I used to play all the rodeos back in the day and, like, sing the national anthem. And small town rodeos when I was first getting started and all those, like, flag girls and the barrel racers with all the glitter and fringe. I wanted to be that so bad, and I chose country music. And so I was like, at 30, I was like, I'm gonna be a cowgirl, damn it, I'm gonna do this. And so I started riding for the first time at 30, and now I'm really super into it. I love it. But I was. I mean, I'm still like, I'm green. I don't know what I'm doing. But I just love, like, having a hobby completely outside of what I do that's challenging and physically challenging. And also, it's like, not up to you. It's up to them, you know?

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, yeah, dude. It is. Like, that's the dang Lord's Uber, dude. Being on a horseback.

[Miranda Lambert]

The Lord's Uber, bro.

[Angie Hicks]

You get On a horse. It is not. It's like, kind of up to you because they give you these little. Little strings. You're like, these strings are not going to do anything against this horse.

[Miranda Lambert]

You know, like that. I just saw that pull up on the screen. My. My horse Cool. I started mounted shooting.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, his name's Cool.

[Miranda Lambert]

His name's Cool. And I started mounted shooting last December.

[Angie Hicks]

And what does that mean, mounted shooting?

[Miranda Lambert]

So, like shooting a revolver with black powder off the back of the horse at a balloon. It's super fun. It's. It's spectator safe. And the horses wear earplugs. Just FYI.

[Angie Hicks]

The horses do.

[Miranda Lambert]

They do. They wear earplugs. And the gun has black powder in it. And so you do these patterns and you go like 100 miles an hour. I don't yet. I'm trying to get there. And you shoot at balloons. My friend Kenda Lansain, she's like the world champion, and she.

[Angie Hicks]

Kendall, bring her up.

[Miranda Lambert]

She's. She's a badass. Like, she. She has taken me under her wing and taught me so much about it.

[Angie Hicks]

I've never even heard of. So it's called mounted shooting. So you started.

[Miranda Lambert]

There she is.

[Angie Hicks]

Let's see that.

[Miranda Lambert]

That's her.

[Angie Hicks]

She's a beat. Hey, yeah, I'll let her shoot me.

[Miranda Lambert]

She probably would.

[Angie Hicks]

Really?

[Miranda Lambert]

She probably tells you. If you want her to look, she.

[Angie Hicks]

Can shoot me in the belt buckle and see if my pants drop. You know what I'm saying, baby? That's where I'm at with her.

[Miranda Lambert]

She's a buckle shiner.

[Angie Hicks]

She's. But she's really great at it. So wait, explain it to me. I've never even heard of this.

[Miranda Lambert]

It's so fun. So you have two revolvers. It's. And you have five shots in each.

[Angie Hicks]

And you're on the horse.

[Miranda Lambert]

It's a gun belt. You're on a horse, and it's time to verify. So, like, come out of the gate and, like, she does it in, like 7.5 seconds, which I'm still learning to ride. Good enough. So I.

[Angie Hicks]

She's used to a quick shot. I'm in again.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, See? So you're shooting. You're shooting at a pattern of balloons. And you're timed on the event, and you do five shots and a gun change. So while you're riding 100 miles an hour, you're having to shoot, aim, switch your gun, go around a barrel, go around a pattern. Like, it's very challenging. Super fun, though. It's like the most adrenaline Rush.

[Angie Hicks]

It sounds like ADHD meets Yellowstone kind of.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, it is.

[Angie Hicks]

But it sounds beautiful. Wow. It is called mounted shooting.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

That's fascinating. And so do you get to try that? So you have your own horse. That was nice to get, wasn't that.

[Miranda Lambert]

I bought a horse. I was one of those. Like, I did it once and loved it so much. I was like, I'm gonna winter in Arizona. I'm buying the horse, I'm buying the guns. Like, I fully got into it, but I just, you know, I feel like at 30, I started riding, and then I turned 40 in November, last November. And I was like, all right, now's a new season to keep pushing myself and try something that's a little scary, but new and outside of my wheelhouse.

[Angie Hicks]

Well, you look beautiful for 40.

[Miranda Lambert]

Well, thank you.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. And, yeah, I don't mean that in a flirtation. I just mean that in a complimentary way.

[Miranda Lambert]

I'll send you a valentine.

[Angie Hicks]

Okay. Please do. Yeah. Actually, your husband will get them all. Sit there and hold some. Yeah, he'd, like, hold these for me.

[Miranda Lambert]

Dude, you're going to get so many. Watch and see. It's going to be great.

[Angie Hicks]

We'll see.

[Miranda Lambert]

All my friends have a crush on you, by the way.

[Angie Hicks]

Really?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yes. All my Nashville, my gal pals.

[Angie Hicks]

I'd love to meet any nice gal.

[Miranda Lambert]

Okay. Well, I know some.

[Angie Hicks]

I've been trying to be like. We have more like. Like, kind of like, brave about just, like, dating and stuff, you know, Because I just get, like. I start to get, like, turn into a little bit of a homebody sometimes.

[Miranda Lambert]

My home. So cozy, you know?

[Angie Hicks]

It is cozy.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

But they say it's because you're with somebody, but then you're like, who is that person, though? Because that's.

[Miranda Lambert]

Be the right person or you'd rather be by yourself.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, yeah. Dude, I don't want somebody just freaking bugging me and bothering me and wanting pancakes or whatever.

[Miranda Lambert]

Can you make pancakes?

[Angie Hicks]

No, I can't.

[Miranda Lambert]

Well, you should learn, because they're gonna want pancakes.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, let me.

[Miranda Lambert]

They're like the little. The little cute ones. Like, my mom used to do, like, the Mickey Mouse one where she would, like, pour the batter in the shape of Mickey Mouse. Oh, it's just epic, right?

[Angie Hicks]

I don't know. What. Oh, our mom had, like, a. One of those things, and it would sit on the table and it had a little dial on it, and it would heat the skillet like that. And you plugged it in, right?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, it's Like a. What do you call those things? Like a little iron, Like a little skillet?

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, it's kind of like a skillet. Yeah. But you don't have to put it on the oven. The oven's built into it. And she. One time she did it though, on like her wood table and roasted like a little hole in it and she got. We all got. We got in trouble for it. We didn't do.

[Miranda Lambert]

How dare y'all want pancakes and make me burn my table.

[Angie Hicks]

How dare you want pancakes in my house.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, well, that's why you went to the horse therapy.

[Angie Hicks]

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[Miranda Lambert]

I mean, I just started doing some of them because I did. We did a little thing at my bar, Casarosa, which I think is the first time I met you.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, it's the first time I met you there.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

Opening.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, yeah. We did the whole record, which was like, it's always fun to do. I've only done that once, one other time with my record Revolution, a long time ago. So it was fun to like actually learn every song. And like, I didn't really know them that well. I had lyrics up there. I had a little notebook, like old school. I was like, it's my first time to play these. You know what I mean? But I think, I don't know. There's one on there called Armadillo it's the first song on the record. And my friend Aaron Raytier, I don't know if you know him, he's a Nashville songwriter, and y'all should be friends. Cause he's funny as hell and the funnest.

[Angie Hicks]

And Aaron Ray Tier.

[Miranda Lambert]

Ray Tier.

[Angie Hicks]

Ray Tier, yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

And he sent me this song, and it's just funny and quirky and so I don't know. That one's been fun to do live. I've only done a couple times, but it's fun.

[Angie Hicks]

There he is right there.

[Miranda Lambert]

He's a Kentucky boy.

[Angie Hicks]

Aaron Raytier. That's a cool name. You got to tour with Toby Keith before I did. Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yep.

[Angie Hicks]

What was he like? What's Toby Keith like?

[Miranda Lambert]

That was one of my earliest tours. I was lucky enough. Like, I went on so many. Well, there weren't hardly any women touring back then. Like, really. Well, like, in country, there wasn't that many touring that much. I mean, in the early days, you got to play like 100, 200 shows a year, you know, So I went out with all men for a long time. I learned so much from all of them. Like, Keith Urban was my first one, 2005. And then, because I just played Honky tonks until then. And then Dirk Spentley and George. Toby, I think was like, my fourth big, like, major country tour.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

And I learned a lot. I mean. Oh, gosh. Old school. Look at that hair. That is like, Mandel Texas hair. Oh, my gosh.

[Angie Hicks]

Wow.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. Little old school. Tease it to Jesus. That's what we say.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, the Lord does my hair while I sleep.

[Miranda Lambert]

Exactly.

[Angie Hicks]

So don't even. Yeah. Wow. That's cool. What was Toby like? Like, what was he like? I just never got to meet him. I've gotten to meet some different artists that I'm a big fan of. But what was he like as a person?

[Miranda Lambert]

He was really. He was like. He was himself. You know what I mean? Like, he was his, like, authentically himself. Kind of did everything his own way. An outlaw in his own way. Prolific songwriter. And, you know, he was. He was kind of a tough love at first, out on the road, but I guess I needed that because I was a baby and didn't know, you know, what was going on yet. I was learning all the ropes of everything. And it was. It was. I learned so much from every tour I was on. And I would say Toby was just like. His fans taught me a lot, too, because they were really about Toby, only you had to work to get them to care, you know, because they were like we're here to see Toby, and he's his outlaw kind of I am who I am mentality. They kind of adopted that. And I felt like it made me work for it in a good way. Like, I had to really figure out my set list and figure out, like, I'm just some little gal. They're not here to see me. And if they're here early, I really need to. I'm here to gain fans. I gotta work on this.

[Angie Hicks]

I gotta capture that.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

Did you get to interact with him before he passed away?

[Miranda Lambert]

I haven't. I did see him at the BMI Awards when he got the Songwriter Legend Award a couple years ago. So it was right before he passed away. Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

And could you tell he was sick then? I just. Cause it was. I knew people knew he was sick for a long time. He just didn't, like, put much out there about it. It seemed like. It seemed like he was very private. But I guess who would want to, right?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. Well. And I was. I mean, when he was there, he sounded great and he looked great. So, I mean, you know that. That journey is, like, everybody's got to take that journey and however they feel comfortable and their family and all that stuff. But I know that he was even at the end, like, really about the music, you know, because the last big thing I saw, Matt, was the BMI's, and it was all about his catalog. And I did not realize how many he wrote, like, 150 songs a year or something. Like, crazy. Like, just prolific. And I also didn't realize how many outside songs he cut, like. Or that he had other artists cut of his until that ceremony.

[Angie Hicks]

Is there ever a song where you write it and you think it's good, but it's not for you?

[Miranda Lambert]

A lot.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, really?

[Miranda Lambert]

A lot of times, yeah. And I. You know, it's. I'm thankful that some artists are still willing to cut outside songs. I. I'm one of those artists, you know?

[Angie Hicks]

What does that mean, that they're willing to cut outside songs?

[Miranda Lambert]

Like. Like, you can't write every. You can't cut every song you ever write, you know? And so, for instance, Aaron sent me Armadillo, and I was like, I love this. I'm cutting it. So, you know, I think it's important if you're a songwriter to have a balance of. We live in Nashville. Like, there's amazing songs written all day, every day in this town for years. And I think it's cool when artists are not trying to write every song on their records.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, I See what you're saying. Because at a certain point, it almost. You're just able to help out more people by picking up songs that they've written. Really?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. And, you know, like, for my career, I mean, my biggest songs, I wouldn't have. If I would have tried to write everything. I mean, like, House that Built Me is a staple in my career. And that's. I didn't write that. And Mama's Broken Heart and Little Red Wagon, like, I have some of the staples drunk. Some of the staples in my set that are my career staple songs are not songs I wrote. So I think it's good to keep the door open to, like, you know, look around town. Look where we live. This is amazing, right?

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. So many people. Yeah. And you can't do things alone, too. That's one thing I realized. Like, kind of like as I get older, it's like I used to want to do everything by myself. It was just like how I was wired. And it still is a lot of times, but it's certainly. It started to alleviate some where it's like, I got. I need help. I need people to do. And I need people to help me do things, and. And I can help people do things. And then it's more fun to do something with somebody sometimes.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. And it's like when you celebrate the highs with your friends. Cause you all did it together, like a co wrote, you know, it's fun. Like, collaborating is great. Nashville's such a good community for that. Like, everybody's. I mean, you know, you live here. Like, everybody's. So country music community is very collaborative, and we lift each other up. We kind of stick together. You know, you don't have to.

[Angie Hicks]

Do you think that's true?

[Miranda Lambert]

I do think it's true. For me, it has been for 20 years. And not that you have to love every single person you ever work with or in the business, but.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

I feel like everybody's kind of in it for the same reason. And there's a mutual respect there most times.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. Yeah, I guess. But it's also competitive, right?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, but I think that's also good. You gotta, like, compete. But I think there's a difference in my manager. We've been together 21 years, and I just recently went on a birthday trip with her and one of her really good friends who's born and raised in Belle Meade. Her name's Elizabeth. And she said there's a difference in wanting to win and wanting to beat everybody. And I thought that was really poignant. I Was like. Because that's a different mindset. Like, it's okay to want to win and. And, like, compete and be on top, but I don't. I don't think you have to want to go into it going, I'm going to beat everybody.

[Angie Hicks]

Right.

[Miranda Lambert]

I'm just going to win at my race.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. Because that's almost. It's almost vindicate. It's not vindicated, but it's almost. Yeah. I'm trying to think of the word really almost as a negative edge to it.

[Miranda Lambert]

It does. And I don't feel like I want.

[Angie Hicks]

Somebody to lose then.

[Miranda Lambert]

Right, right. We can all win. We just got to run our own race.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Thanks for thinking about that kind of stuff with me. Yeah. Cause I love songwriting, and it's. Oh, in Nashville, anything can happen. Like, you'll drop a tomato at Trader Joe's and somebody will come up and have half a stanza written about it.

[Miranda Lambert]

You know, it's like, yeah, you get.

[Angie Hicks]

In a car accident, and the guy gets out of the vehicle, and he's already written a couple bars about the accident, and he's like, what do you think of these? And I'm like, what do you think about giving me your insurance papers? You know.

[Miranda Lambert]

Well, that's the title. Insurance papers.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. But it really is.

[Miranda Lambert]

What's in your glove box? That's a good song title.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, dude. Yeah. What's in your glove box? Dude, it better just be gloved, buddy.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. If there's gloves. That's weird. Why is it called a glove box? Now that we talked about it, it's even weirder if there's gloves in there.

[Angie Hicks]

It is weirder now, isn't it? And it started off by, it's only supposed to be your insurance, because people used to put. The name is derived from the compartment's original purpose, storing driving gloves. Initially, the glove compartment was a box near the driver on the floorboard. Driving gloves are worn to keep hands clean and considered essential equipment in early vehicles.

[Miranda Lambert]

Driving gloves are important for women now, too. Because our hands, they, like, keep you from aging because your hands are on the wheel. And, like, I didn't know that. But, like, driving gloves are a thing.

[Angie Hicks]

But why does it keep you from aging?

[Miranda Lambert]

Because the sun coming through the windshield. You wear, like, gloves while you drive so that the sun's not, like, getting on your hands.

[Angie Hicks]

Honey, you're only driving a Smyrna. That ain't. All that sunshine on them.

[Miranda Lambert]

I don't know. But I ride in gloves now because of that. My horse. I have My little gloves. I'm like, I don't want sun damage.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, I thought you riding like, I ride my gun in a car.

[Miranda Lambert]

I ride my horse with gloves on now because I'm like, oh, God, I don't want aging hands. There's so much to think about. It's a full time job.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, yeah. You don't want aging hands, though.

[Miranda Lambert]

No.

[Angie Hicks]

Because you can hide everything else, but you can't just show up to something with mittens on for no reason.

[Miranda Lambert]

No, but Dolly does wear those sheer gloves with the rhinestones. And I'm kind of, like, really into that. So that's a vibe.

[Angie Hicks]

Somebody said she's full body tatted up.

[Miranda Lambert]

Whoever really knows the answer?

[Angie Hicks]

I don't know. A couple men have to.

[Miranda Lambert]

A couple for sure.

[Angie Hicks]

I mean, I don't know how many. I mean, I know. Is she still married or not?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, Carl, Somebody knows. And we're gonna have to get to the bottom of this. Does Dolly have the tattoos or not? Somebody tell us.

[Angie Hicks]

Somebody's seen that artwork. Brother, it ain't me. You know, I know people.

[Miranda Lambert]

I hope she does. That would even make her. If it's possible for her to be more badass. Yeah, that makes it more badass.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, if she. If they. If she came out with, like, in one of those ESPN where they do, like, the nude, like, they're pushing a baby carriage, like, but they're naked or whatever. If she came out and she was full body tatted, dude, it would be crazy. Like, Kat Von D just totally. That'd be insane.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. Cats are awesome.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. You have them?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, I got tats. I'm not like, sleeved or anything because I don't know about the top. Like, the top of your arm. Like, as you age, like, does it get weird? I don't know. So I just have them down here where they can't, like, swing. At some point in my life, I have on my forearms. I don't want, like, mama tattoo arm. Don't need that.

[Angie Hicks]

You get a chair, and then years later, it's a swing set. You're like, oh, that's a damn porch swing right there.

[Miranda Lambert]

Exactly. Got to be strategic.

[Angie Hicks]

Is there an artist that passed away that, like, you really miss their music? You miss them? Is that a weird question?

[Miranda Lambert]

There's a bunch.

[Angie Hicks]

Like, one you knew. Maybe even haggard.

[Miranda Lambert]

Haggard. Like, he was such a. Like my number one hero, and I was really sad the day he died. And, like, it. I guess it was like the first kind of, oh, my God, one of my heroes is gone. You Know, feelings. I was lucky enough to get to sing with him and meet him and know his family, and so that was awesome. In fact, I just saw his family this past summer, the play the state fair and Ben Haggard and the family opened. But I just. I don't know. That was Merle's. My, like, number one, you know?

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. Would you admire about him you think so much?

[Miranda Lambert]

I think that, you know, he. One of my favorite quotes is from Johnny Cash, and he said, I sing about the things that Merle Haggard actually lived because he literally turned 21 in prison. Like, he told his truth. Like, he didn't have a glamorous childhood or upbringing, and he took his outlaw and sort of the troubled times of his life turned him into songs and turned it into a beautiful career. And every time I was ever around him, he's one of those heroes that, like, is exactly what you hope he would be, like, a little mysterious, but super kind, you know? And it's always like, meet your heroes or not. It's scary, because what if they're. What if they let you down? Yeah, but he never did. Look, all these pictures they're bringing up, like, tease it to Jesus. I mean, look at the hair. That is Texas hair, y'all.

[Angie Hicks]

That's definitely a full crop. I mean, they got a lot of rain that summer. I'll say that. That is for sure. What's a song that you put on, like, say, like, everybody has songs when they want to feel something, right? So, like, you have, like, man, I really want to feel something right now, like. Or. I don't know. I do. I'm kind of an emo kind of dude. So I'll put on, like. Like, I used to put on, like, Trace Atkins. Every Light in the House is on. You know I'm talking about.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yes.

[Angie Hicks]

Is that Trace Atkins?

[Miranda Lambert]

Say Trace Atkins. Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. Oh, I told you that.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. You want the big, deep voice. You want to feel it. I don't know.

[Angie Hicks]

I went through a breakup. Yeah. And I would sit on my porch and just smoke cigarettes. I don't even. I don't even smoke.

[Miranda Lambert]

Everybody smokes when they break up.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, dude. I would just smoke, and I'd play that on repeat till my neighbors were like, what? Turn off the light. Or whatever. We can't Handle It Anymore, I think.

[Miranda Lambert]

Nobody in His Right Mind by George Strait.

[Angie Hicks]

I haven't even heard it.

[Miranda Lambert]

It's so good. It's one of my favorite George Strait songs. But it's just like, a heartbreaker. We're like, I don't Know I love country. Like, I truly like. My go to is country. Old country is like my jam. And George Strait, we call him the king for a reason. So it's a great song.

[Angie Hicks]

Nobody in his right mind.

[Miranda Lambert]

Nobody in his right mind would have left her. Even my heart was smart enough to stay behind.

[Angie Hicks]

Come on, God, put my feelings in a wheelbarrow.

[Miranda Lambert]

We need to go that horse therapy place immediately.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, what else would I listen? Oh, Lee Bryce's I drive your truck. That one's.

[Miranda Lambert]

Oh, man. My friend Jesse Alexander wrote that song.

[Angie Hicks]

Really?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yes, she did, and she's amazing. She wrote it. I don't know who she wrote it with, but I know she wrote it.

[Angie Hicks]

That's a great song.

[Miranda Lambert]

She. Yeah. Oh, it's so good. And lease, Lee's delivery is, like, insane. See it. But that's a song that he didn't write. Right, Right.

[Angie Hicks]

And that's why it takes a group. It's like. But you also. If he doesn't perform it, if somebody else does, who knows if it works the same. It could.

[Miranda Lambert]

It all has to land in the right basket. Right. Like, the right song finds the right artist at the right time.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

You know?

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. The house that built me too. I had. I saw some. That talk. The. The writers of that song, it took them, like, they wrote that song for, like, seven years.

[Miranda Lambert]

Alan Chamblin and Tom Douglas. Yes. It. They rewrote it and rewrote it. It's seven years of writing it. But I'm. That is such a lesson. Like, I'm not good at that at all. Like, I'm like, I'm kind of millennial about my. Like, I know I want to come into this co ride today, and then I'm gonna leave with a song. Like, in, you know, four hours, you get a song or two out or whatever it is. I don't know that I could have stuck with it for seven years.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

It's a lesson to all of us to, like, be patient till it's right.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

That song is, like, perfectly written.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, yeah. They made, like, a real Sistine Chapel with that one. Dude. I remember. It's kind of weird, maybe, but, like, I grew up in, like, a pretty traumatic youth, you know, and. And I heard that song. This is a couple years ago, maybe two years ago. It was like Christmas time. I was in my town where I grew up, and I went and got it, like an orchid or whatever from a flower place, and I took it back to the place that I grew up at, and I went. This sounds really bizarre. Now, I wasn't doing Peeping Tom and everything. It was like I knocked on the door and I gave him that. I was like, I think that's really cool. Yeah. I said, something nice should grow here. That's what I said. And I gave him that.

[Miranda Lambert]

That's a song. You said that to songwriter.

[Angie Hicks]

So it was interesting.

[Miranda Lambert]

Have to write it down. But honestly.

[Angie Hicks]

But it's funny that what a song can do to somebody.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yes. Because that. I didn't write that song. But I was like, how did they know my story? Like, yeah. But my guitar player that was with me for forever, since I was 17. We lost him two years ago. But he said that is. That song hits me because it's what I wish I had. And that sounds like what you're talking about. Like, and I never thought about it from that perspective.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, he wish he'd had those things that built him. Right.

[Miranda Lambert]

But he didn't have, like, a healthy childhood.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

So, you know. But I just. I love a song like that. And the fact that they waited it out and just stayed with it is, like, goals. I gotta work on it. I gotta work on it.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. That is. Yeah. Yeah. Who knows? Like, what things? And that's. What's the one thing that's nice about life. It's like you don't know the little things you're doing now, how they'll merge with, like, the things you're doing later on and how it'll help you form, like, wherever you're supposed to be. Like, sometimes it's so hard to get through just the moment, you know? But you don't realize that the moment are the stairs that are going to get you to the place you're supposed to stand, you know?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

Anyway, sorry. But. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. And those people must have thought I was batshit crazy.

[Miranda Lambert]

No, but it's not. Like, the house I grew up in was an old tobacco farm. And it was a house built in 1905. And it was just a farmhouse. No central heat and air, one bathroom. Like, not like a farmhouse. Like, we didn't have a lot growing up, but people constantly stopped by there. Specifically older people, seniors, and were like, you know, they would cry. They would just be standing on the front porch crying. And I was like 10, like, hiding behind my mom, going, like, trying to eavesdrop. And, like, what are they saying? You know, that they had so many memories there and those handprints were there. That's why I thought. When I heard the song, I was like, have they been Eavesdropping on my whole life, like, because it was such an old farmhouse, it had so many stories in it and it touched so many people's lives, you know.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think that's one thing that's amazing about art, is that it can do that. I mean, I think you could. It's just powerful, you know that the beats and the words and you put it all together the right way and it unlocks something.

[Miranda Lambert]

It does. And it's like everybody feels like, okay, I'm not alone in this world. And this is. This. Whatever's happening to me, good, bad or ugly, I'm not the only one. Yeah, that's the beauty of a song or any art, really. Truly. But especially songs I love. I'm. I'm. I'm in awe of songs. I'm a songwriter, I'm a song lover, a music lover. Like, especially country ones, because we just sell. Tell the sad truth no matter what. Like, you get in your feels, you know?

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

So what do you listen to when you're, like, wanting to, like, rage or, like, rock out or.

[Angie Hicks]

I mean, I'll put them before. Well, I mean, before I go on stage, I listen to FGL Dirt. It's a little up tempo for me, but it's also kind of. Kind of chill.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. And like Down Home and grounding.

[Angie Hicks]

And then I'll put on a little bit of Boosie Badass and listen to him. So I'll turn it the other way. You know, I might even go some sexy red or something like that. I don't go anything too crazy. I mean, sometimes I'll put on maybe, like, Soundgarden or like. I've been listening to Stephen Wilson Jr.

[Miranda Lambert]

Recently with that record.

[Angie Hicks]

God, it's so good.

[Miranda Lambert]

Golly, it's great. I actually have a rat coming up with him, and I'm so. Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, my God. What are you going to wear?

[Miranda Lambert]

I know. We. It's. It's, like, hard. Not. I wrote with him and Natalie Hemby recently, and we wrote this song called. Well, the hook is, I don't want to see the movie if the dog dies. Like, Oliver's sitting there crying. It was just like the most magical ride. And it was Stephen's idea, obviously, shows up with that.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

And my dogs were there and they're seniors. I was like, oh, God.

[Angie Hicks]

And they're scared. They're like, hey, let's don't finish the song.

[Miranda Lambert]

No. He's so great. I love him. But I also love the Sense Soundgarden because mine is audio Slave. Like, that's my.

[Angie Hicks]

Really?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, girl.

[Angie Hicks]

What do you wear while you listen to it?

[Miranda Lambert]

People are like, what do you. What people be surprised to know about you? I'm, like, huge audio slave fan. Yeah, I just, like, nail in my head. We just get all ragey.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

Female rage is a thing, you know? It's like my bread and butter.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, look. Yeah, No, I definitely notice that some of it's in you, you know? And, yeah, I've been victim of it. For sure, dude. I've got a couple angry women in my text, in my d. In my dang.

[Miranda Lambert]

In your ding dang dms.

[Angie Hicks]

In my ding dang dms. Yeah, but, yeah, it is. It's just interesting. A song will get you activated to get you ready for, like, a certain moment or something. Did you ever have to play at a funeral or anything? Do you ever get asked to do something like that?

[Miranda Lambert]

Oh, God, I can't. Like, I'm not good at it at all. I just. I get too emotional.

[Angie Hicks]

Did you ever have to or not?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, I had to sing at my grandma's and I had to sing at a friend that was, like, my age. That was the worst one.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, is it the first one?

[Miranda Lambert]

It was the first like. Like, reality check. Like, teen years, high school friend. You know what I mean? And her family asked me to sing, and I did, but it was. It was just one of the hardest things I've ever done. I really. I know, I know. So I. But, you know, when you're given a gift, Black, what are you gonna say? I'm not gonna use it to celebrate someone. That was amazing. You have to do it.

[Angie Hicks]

Hey, get on up there, Miranda.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

Good God. Yeah, man. Oh, one time I was at a funeral, and some. The person that sang it was a girl, and she was so nervous, she started singing these. Star Spangled Banner on accident. Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

Oh, man. Well, you shouldn't sing that.

[Angie Hicks]

Somebody had to go and grab and kind of grab.

[Miranda Lambert]

Hardly anyone should sing that. Hardly. Let's just talk about it. It's time.

[Angie Hicks]

Especially if Kenny's right there in the casket and she's just like. People were like, we can't even be here right now.

[Miranda Lambert]

Honestly. Like, there's, like, four people on earth that should sing that song, and that's it.

[Angie Hicks]

And she made it to, like, that. And people wait. And some people started going like this.

[Miranda Lambert]

I was like, oh, no.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. Because part of it is.

[Miranda Lambert]

I just feel so uncomfortable right now. I'm gonna go down those spiral stairs and leave forever right now. Those only Go up thinking about it. Oh, and they only go up.

[Angie Hicks]

A lot of us were like, what? I thought, what happened? He wasn't even in the service. No, the whole thing got really confusing, man. I've been at some weird funerals. My dad was 70 when I was born. He was an older man, and so he had to get me a suit for a funeral one time. Right. And it was around Halloween. He got me a Beetlejuice costume.

[Miranda Lambert]

Like the pinstripe.

[Angie Hicks]

And, like, a costume version, though, like, not even. It. What? I don't even know if it was real textiles.

[Miranda Lambert]

Did they just think you were, like, stylish or.

[Angie Hicks]

I don't. I don't even know if it was real textiles or whatever. But anyway, I. So I go to this funeral. Dude. In a dang Beetlejuice costume, bro. And yeah, I guess it was kind of hip. I guess I was probably 11 or.

[Miranda Lambert]

12, so, like, already awkward years. So that didn't help.

[Angie Hicks]

It was horrible.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

But, you know, I guess that's what happens when you send a senior citizen to the. It wasn't Rite Aid back then. It was called kmb. Was a store they had that had them a couple of costumes over there. But, God, it was. Yeah, that was too much. But, yeah. Anyway, funerals are a lot.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yes, they are.

[Angie Hicks]

So sorry I brought that up.

[Miranda Lambert]

I was like, I don't have any to say to that. Yeah, I'm sorry about that. It seems terrible.

[Angie Hicks]

I heard a rumor that you got to meet Gypsy Rose when she was a make a wish kid. Is that true?

[Miranda Lambert]

I did. I met her several times.

[Angie Hicks]

Do you remember it?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yep. There's a lot. There's. Look at that hair. That crunchy hair. I got that Aussie scrunch spray going in my hair.

[Angie Hicks]

The hair's coming along. These photos go full.

[Miranda Lambert]

I've met her several times. Super, super sweet girl.

[Angie Hicks]

And what was her mother like?

[Miranda Lambert]

Like, I believed her. Yeah, I mean, I did. Like, when all that came out, I was freaking out.

[Angie Hicks]

That's what I was wondering. How did you feel? Was somebody just tell you? Oh, my God. Do you see what just happened?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. Like, somebody texted me and was like, have you seen this documentary? I'm like, what? What's happening? And I'm. Now I've been down all the rabbit holes of it. I'm, like, in it. I'm 100% now. She's pregnant. I watched all the things. But, like, she seems to be thriving. So.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. I mean, she's had a crazy childhood.

[Miranda Lambert]

Something was crazy.

[Angie Hicks]

That's what I'm Just saying. I can't even imagine how crazy it was. Like, if something like that would cause. You have these moments in your life, you're being supportive of somebody, they're dealing with a disease, a syndrome, and then.

[Miranda Lambert]

But it was real to her, I mean.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, totally.

[Miranda Lambert]

So she was a child, you know? Yeah, she was a baby child, but.

[Angie Hicks]

Then suddenly it'd be like a national thing. You're like, what is going on?

[Miranda Lambert]

I can't believe I was part of that. But I'm. You know, you don't know at the time. And neither did she. So, yeah, it was just like, you know her. I mean, her mom worked the system, and it worked because we have all met her, like, the whole country music community. Like, ask any of us. Oh, so she was part of it. She was in it. Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

She was hobnobbing. Oh, that's interesting.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, a lot of us, that gets.

[Angie Hicks]

Kind of crazy, too, sometimes, you know? But if that's what the child loves or something.

[Miranda Lambert]

But she did, and Gypsy was very genuine. Really? Truly.

[Angie Hicks]

That's just such a cry. I heard that. I was like, this can't be true. It's just so crazy.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. Did. Has she. Have you reached out. Have you guys. Has she reached out to you since?

[Miranda Lambert]

No, I mean, that was so long ago. She might just put all that behind her, Which I would if I were her. You know, the whole thing. I don't know.

[Angie Hicks]

Some of Yalls songs are so good. I don't know how you could put it all behind you.

[Miranda Lambert]

Well, we'll see if she comes to a show.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, There you go, dude. Yeah. That's just a crazy thing that I heard. So I was like, is this the truth or not?

[Miranda Lambert]

It's the truth. It's on Google. It's got to be true.

[Angie Hicks]

Well, now, you know, Chat GPT is kind of getting better than Google because there's not advertising on it.

[Miranda Lambert]

Oh, yeah. My brother is, like, super smart, like, really a techie, and he's telling me all about this stuff. When he first said, I was like, who's Chad? He kept talking about Chat. And I was like, who's Chad? And then he asked it to write a song at Father's Day. We had Father's Day in New York with my husband's family. We're sitting around, you know, with, like, forced family fun. You have to, like, think of things to do.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

And so my brother's like, I'm gonna ask Chat to write a Miranda Lambert song. And I was like, okay. And it did, and it didn't have a melody, but it just the lyrics. And it was called Whiskey and Wildflowers. It was kind of good. I was like, oh, God, oh God. My career is over. It's happening. Do I get a royalty? Will it go on tour? Tell me all the answers.

[Angie Hicks]

Chad gbt. There it is. That's definitely the redneck version of Chad. GPT is Chad.

[Miranda Lambert]

I was like, who's Chad? He was like, I'm saying chat. And I was like, oh.

[Angie Hicks]

And it's like, how do you get to New York City? You put in there. It's like, how much gas money you got?

[Miranda Lambert]

You know, saying, I know. Like it has a different voice. Like it has like a. Like a hick voice.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

Be funny.

[Angie Hicks]

That'd be great having Chad GPT. Hey, Chad, how do I fix this two stroke motor? Bob? That'd be so good, dude. We have. Somebody has to come up with that. Yeah. Whiskey and wildfire Sitting on the porch sun sinking low Memories of you like a river flow. Your laugh still lingers in the evening air but loves a wild ride.

[Miranda Lambert]

Why is it talk about drinking when it's my song and I'm holding. They're judgy. Chad's judgy.

[Angie Hicks]

And then the pre chorus. Got a bottle in my hand and a heart full of. Full of scars.

[Miranda Lambert]

That sounds like Trace Atkins.

[Angie Hicks]

Well, it also sounds like you're a pirate, so that is a crazy part.

[Miranda Lambert]

It's so stressful.

[Angie Hicks]

But this is also like, Chad GPT is a newborn. You have to think in a few years if it starts to really get like the ability to do some stuff. But I don't know if it would ever take over. Like the human ability to feel and stuff and actually create music that's based on real feelings.

[Miranda Lambert]

I don't think it could do it. And that's the. You know, it's all weird. Whatever. I'm trying to stay hip and cool, but it's weird.

[Angie Hicks]

But I'm not gonna be that hip and cool.

[Miranda Lambert]

That's weird.

[Angie Hicks]

Why don't you have feelings anymore?

[Miranda Lambert]

Right?

[Angie Hicks]

Like you have to go to a museum to see feelings. Like somebody's smiling behind a piece of glass. You're like, oh, remember that?

[Miranda Lambert]

Remember that? Oh, there's a tear. This is a fossilized tear that you're looking at.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, wow. We don't even have those anymore. More. Yeah. I'm on the pill that makes us. You can't cry. Like, people had those. But that could be a real thing one day.

[Miranda Lambert]

I know, but maybe it'll be. We'll Be long gone and doing something else by then, hopefully.

[Angie Hicks]

I hope I'm in the dang stars. Or definitely just. I don't know. I hope something happens to me. I hope I'm in a dang time capsule. Well, you live in Nashville and Texas for a bit. What was Nashville? How is it. How has Nashville changed over the years to you?

[Miranda Lambert]

It's popular now. Like, everybody. Everybody wants to come here. It's city, which is awesome. I think, like, the fact that country music is thriving right now and our town is a destination. I love that because these honky tonks have been here for ages and kind of like, it's the music of our lives, you know, of my life. And so people are wanting to get a little glimpse of it. I love that. Yeah, I don't love that. The roads aren't really made for all these people yet, but we'll get there.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, some of these roads are damn homemade, too. I'm like, what is somebody. You see somebody just put a damn cake batter in a pothole out there, you know? Yeah, it just. People are filling with anything. I drove through something the other day. Oh, I drove. Yeah. People are using anything to fill them now. There's so many potholes. Especially in January around that time. Yeah, I drove through something the other day and had damn devil's food all over my tires. I was like, shit's getting weird out here.

[Miranda Lambert]

Was it Dolly's brownie mix?

[Angie Hicks]

I don't know.

[Miranda Lambert]

Those are good. The Duncan Hines brownie mix. Well, Dolly has everything. And I bought them. Of course I bought them. And I was like, there it is. Of course I bought them. Oh, because they don't have, like, oil in them. You know how the box brownies have oil? Nope. She has milk and eggs and butter. Like, real ingredients. They're delicious.

[Angie Hicks]

I love that, dude. What I used to love was whenever our mom would make something, dude. And she would let us lick those things that were in the.

[Miranda Lambert]

The raw egg. She let you lick the beaters.

[Angie Hicks]

Lick them beaters, boy.

[Miranda Lambert]

Beaters. Now they're called kitchen mixers, but my mom had, like, the Walmart brand beaters.

[Angie Hicks]

Like, yeah, kitchen mixers is a little bisexual for me. Okay. Yeah, them things.

[Miranda Lambert]

My husband has the KitchenAid and he's obsessed with it. He does all of the. He makes homemade pasta. He has all the. The. Every accessory you can have for a KitchenAid. He's, like, in it.

[Angie Hicks]

He's in there.

[Miranda Lambert]

He's not doing, like, old school beaters. Not. We don't even have those.

[Angie Hicks]

Put them beaters on there, honey.

[Miranda Lambert]

And I was like, your mom's like, don't eat too much of it because it's raw eggs. Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

And we'd be like, bro. And the crazy thing was some of the whatever was in it, I mean, we'd eat them.

[Miranda Lambert]

It's like that grainy stuff, granules.

[Angie Hicks]

It had a little bit of like. Yeah, it had like. I don't know what it was. Who cared? But the crazy part was some of it. If you started licking the beater at the top, then some of the stuff would flow down in your hand. So you get all the. Then you're just licking your own hand with that still holding on to that beater.

[Miranda Lambert]

And then somebody would like accidentally put soapy dishwater in the bowl. And you're like, no, it's over.

[Angie Hicks]

Because, dude, if you could get even part of your head in that dang bowl, you know, I just wanted to grow. I just wanted to grow longer. I would pray to God and make my tongue longer at night.

[Miranda Lambert]

Well, that's a whole different episode.

[Angie Hicks]

Okay, yeah, sorry, sorry.

[Miranda Lambert]

That's for. No, that's for the Tracy Atkins.

[Angie Hicks]

Lato. You Rod Lee? Yeah, you're right. Things have changed.

[Miranda Lambert]

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[Angie Hicks]

What's a place that you miss in Nashville that's not here anymore?

[Miranda Lambert]

I kind of miss old losers. Like old losers was like, I love losers still. But like midtown it was like just one little shitty dive bar with like darts in the back and smoke and like a good great jukebox and popcorn, you know. And now it's like three stories and the rooftop and all the things. But it's still great. But I kind of miss like the little like the Divier the better, you know?

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, yeah. Now they still have the back porch over there you can go kick it.

[Miranda Lambert]

At sometimes that little deck. I have a little sign up there, it says Miranda Lambert way hanging up there. Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

Do you.

[Miranda Lambert]

Have you been on the VIP deck?

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, I have a couple times. Exactly.

[Miranda Lambert]

I take. I put it. Yes, I put in a lot.

[Angie Hicks]

He's usually out there waiting for an ambulance.

[Miranda Lambert]

Put in a lot of late nighters to get that sign. You have to drink a certain amount of Tito is out of a shitty plastic cup to get Your sign up there and I have one, so.

[Angie Hicks]

And at least it says way it could have ended up being Miranda Limber. Cul de sac.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. Oh no, that wouldn't be as cool.

[Angie Hicks]

No.

[Miranda Lambert]

But at least five way road I can deal with. Not cul de sac.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, I remember when somebody put a damn cul de sac. First time I ever saw one, I was like, what is this shit? What do you mean you can't keep going. Just fucking hurt my feelings, boy. I said, we'll see about that. I'm going to call the damn sheriff. We'll see about this.

[Miranda Lambert]

I can't find a picture. I have one on my phone.

[Angie Hicks]

What else was I thinking about? Oh, if you, if you had to travel back in time, right? If you had a time warper and it could have a Hemi on it or whatever. I don't know how you like to travel, but if you had a time warper, what time back in your life would you go to, do you think?

[Miranda Lambert]

Right now? I think I just stay. Right now I feel like I've done done it, but I'm still learning. Somebody asked me that the other day, like, what's your most fun era? And I was like, right now, like still young but like not dumb, you know. I mean. Yeah, you know that, that whole vibe where you learn a lot. Early 30s were weird. Late 30s were fine. But like now I'm like, we're doing right now.

[Angie Hicks]

You're like, we're here, we're here.

[Miranda Lambert]

Everybody's like, 40s is the best decade. I'm like, let's roll.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, I believe it.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, Here we go.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. Tell me something else that you think about. Oh, you're the one. The new song is Damn it Randy on your new album. Who's it about, man?

[Miranda Lambert]

Well, it's about Randy.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, I see.

[Miranda Lambert]

It's about Randy. Everybody has a Randy in their life and everybody has one. And it's about just a time where I was like, this is not good. It's not serving me anymore. This is. I gotta move on.

[Angie Hicks]

And it. Was it a real. Like, was it serious or was it just somebody that didn't install Yalls cable? Well, or something like it, you know?

[Miranda Lambert]

Well, it depends on the person. Everybody's got a Randy, Damn it.

[Angie Hicks]

Randy, right?

[Miranda Lambert]

And I wrote it with John Randall, who's one of my besties and his real name is Randy. So I always say that to him anyway, so it's kind of funny. And that's the one that Brendan's a writer. On.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, yeah. I was flying a kite in the middle of a hurricane.

[Miranda Lambert]

There it is, that little songwriter.

[Angie Hicks]

What else was I thinking about? What drives you at this point in your career? I know this is kind of a general question, but, like, you've gotten to have notoriety. You've had number ones. You've won Grammys. You've won. You're a household name. You have. You can afford to pay your rent. You know, it's like, what. What goals are there still for you? Or do things evolve from goals into, like, just wanting to still do the job? I'm just curious. And it's stuff I go through in my own life, too, with comedy. You know, I'm just. I'm just curious. What do you think about that?

[Miranda Lambert]

You know, I am lucky enough to have reached a lot of the goals that I set when I started this journey. I mean, I was 17 when I was. I'm chasing music, so I'm doing. Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

And people like, fuck you. You'll be at a Dairy Queen in two months.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, okay. See y'all next time.

[Angie Hicks]

Like, I'll be singing in the drive through. Damn it.

[Miranda Lambert]

Exactly. I don't know. I. I feel like now I'm just, like, open. I'm trying to be open to. You know, I don't. I'm not walking around saying, I'm gonna do this and this and this. I'm just, like, absorbing what's around me and being open to new opportunities and meeting new people and, like, also saying no to the. Saying no to the right things. Like, I think that's a big part of it, because you can save your energy for the right things if you just say no to the things that are not right for you. Like, that's kind of where I'm headed and where I've been living in the past couple years, because I realized, like, if you put all your energy into the wrong people and the wrong things, then you don't have any openness or any time or energy left for the right things, and then it's too late, you know? So I think I'm just in this space right now where I'm like, what's next? What? I mean, this is new. I've just started doing podcasts. Like, I've never done that before until this year.

[Angie Hicks]

You've done a good job. I've watched some of them.

[Miranda Lambert]

Well, I'm new to it, and I'm not great at talking. Like, I'm a singer. Like, I'm in front of people. I'm actually an introverted extrovert I have an extroverted job with an introvert personality. And so I'm trying to. I'm branching in that way. You know, I always. I'm fine to say my truths in songs. It's just harder to do just, you know, saying it out there. But I think it's important either way. So I don't know, my goals are like, what's next? Let's do something that scares us. Let's do something that's, you know, makes you grow and makes you learn.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. Yeah, that's true, huh? Yeah. So it's. So it's. I feel like when you're involved in some part of the arts, kind of, you know, people call them. And some people just call them music and comedy and painting or whatever, but it's weird to also kind of evolve because it's like you age, right? We age and. And you're like, well, if I. Some songs I can't even really sing anymore. Some jokes I can't even really. I could tell them still. But is it really going to be true to where I'm at? You know, I find that that's interesting about art itself is you have to. And then you're. But then you're like, but if I change, will I still have the people who like this thing?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. It's like, how do you keep the common thread and keep reinventing? It's a tiny little fine line you have to walk.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

And it's scary because what we do is very public and like, what we signed up for and what we started saying or the jokes we told at 20 or the songs we wrote at 20 are not the same. We're not in, like, the same life space and we're not in the same lane anymore. You know, so it's like figuring out how to do that gracefully but still keep that common thread of like, where. Where you've been and where you're going, but kind of walk this line of staying authentic.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

To the. To the true you that started this whole journey. And comedy is the hardest thing in the world. Like, I do not. I think that would be the literal hardest part of the arts of any art. I really do.

[Angie Hicks]

Really?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. I just respect it because it's the most vulnerable, like, standing up there in front of people and just telling jokes and hoping they re like, that it lands, you know, and there's no band, it's just you.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. Oh, God. I wish somebody would pull up with a drum sometimes.

[Miranda Lambert]

Start playing a drum solo immediately if you're like, no, this One didn't happen.

[Angie Hicks]

Take it away, Henry. You know, just turn it off.

[Miranda Lambert]

You don't have anybody to like lean on. You're just up there by yourself, like, emotionally naked.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, in the beginning, it's so scary. I think, God, I can't even believe something. You think back and I don't mean it. Like, I'm not trying to film own ego. But. But when you think back, like, I don't know if I'd go do it now. But yeah, you get up there that first time and you're just like, this is gonna. This is gonna be good. You know, you don't even believe yourself. You just screaming that to yourself in a car like, you know, in a Ford Tourist. You're like, that's just gonna be like.

[Miranda Lambert]

In your best Chris Cornell voice. Yeah. Beefing yourself up. I don't, I don't. The fact that you said it, you don't know if you do it now. Like, I think about, I. I knew like three nervous. I know. I just got anxiety. I think about, like, I knew three chords and I was like walking in these bars, like, can I play at the set change? Like, I just. I gotta get some experience. And you know, it's that thing of like, how do I get experience if you don't let me play? And then. But, but, but then you say I can't play cause I don't have any experience. Like, just put me on set change then, and I'll play my three songs that I just learned yesterday. Like, not good, but just being brave anyway. I don't know. We did it.

[Angie Hicks]

That's a good point. Yeah, I know the ones that hurt too. Do you ever show you remember that really just kind of burned you when you were just like, God, this is hard. Oh, yeah, like a birthday or anything. Like, you ever get played one of those Arab birthdays or something?

[Miranda Lambert]

You're like, private parties. I'm so thankful for private parties. I love them. I would love to play your private party, but some of them can be hard.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

You know where it's like, I did. I played a. I played a sweet 16 one time. And this thing was the most extravagant party I've ever seen in my life. It was a bunch of 16 year olds and they only wanted me to do four songs. Michelle Branch was part of it, Leann Rhymes and me. And we each did four songs. And like, this thing was like, legit was in Washington D.C. and these kids were dressed to the nines. They all had on, like, everything designer. And I was like, I was Working at Bells when I turned 16.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, I'd have robbed those bastards. We were dressed to the threes, honey. Okay, Exactly. We was dressed. The three of us combined. We was in Rob.

[Miranda Lambert]

I mean, that was one that sticks out my mind. I'm like, ooh, Lord, this is bougie.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, yeah, we remember. I had hand me downs from damn women. And I was like, I don't have an older sister. I was wearing shit. I was like, whose shit is this?

[Miranda Lambert]

You know, stuff that whatever was around. My mom was like a big, big thrifter. So big thrifter. I'm like, I found. But this is awesome. So, like, it was in the Doc Marten, like, heyday, and we couldn't afford those. It was very.

[Angie Hicks]

Those were very nice.

[Miranda Lambert]

They were very nice.

[Angie Hicks]

God, that's where Mother Hubbard lived. And one of those. I heard they were fancy.

[Miranda Lambert]

We went to Goodwill a lot. And, like, I found a pair of doc Martens for $7. And they were like, new. And I went to school and my mom's like, just tell everybody you got them at GWS and say it's like a nice store in Dallas. So I forever was like, these are my Doc Martens I got at GW's. It's a nice store in Dallas. Just flat out live. And I was like, seven dollar Doc Martens. Like, that's a score.

[Angie Hicks]

That's 350 a foot, honey. Let's party.

[Miranda Lambert]

That's the rest of the threes.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, that's like putting. Damn. Each foot into a dang Sheraton. That's really nice.

[Miranda Lambert]

Sheridan's have very good beds.

[Angie Hicks]

You know what I do notice after touring and going to hotels and stuff, I get. One thing that bugs me now is if the mattress is too soft. And I don't mean it in a negative way, but it's like your back starts to fall apart and you start to realize how many bones you have in your body as you get older. And you're like, this is not a bad. This isn't holding anybody up.

[Miranda Lambert]

You figure out, like, what, like. But is your continental like, breakfast? Like just Froot Loops? Or is it like hot breakfast? Oh, those things you start to, like, really appreciate on the road. Like, do y'all have real eggs? Are they powdered eggs? Because you can't say hot breakfast if it's powdered eggs. That's doesn't count.

[Angie Hicks]

That's fair.

[Miranda Lambert]

Doesn't count.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, that's more MREs. Like, it's like MREs, but with a television that's on ESPN. You know, like, they'll have that set up.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yep.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. God, I think. Yes. I remember we used to go to the Continental Breakfast, and we would pretend like the people there were waiters, whatever. We weren't even supposed to be there. We weren't staying there at the Holiday Inn. And we would go up there and eat up there. My stepdad would take us up there.

[Miranda Lambert]

But you're not staying there, huh?

[Angie Hicks]

And we go in that Bitch and Dine honey.

[Miranda Lambert]

And when they have happy hour and it's in a box, but I'll take it. It's fine. Box wine sounds great. Let's do it.

[Angie Hicks]

Do you have a favorite party, like, birthday party that you ever had so far? I know you just had 40, you said.

[Miranda Lambert]

I think it was this one.

[Angie Hicks]

Was it?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

Y'all go back to the casino.

[Miranda Lambert]

No, we went to Billy Bob's on a Monday. Billy Bob's like, oh, in Texas. Fort Worth. Yeah. In the stockyards. My friend Gwen, she's sings with me in my band for 13 years. And she was like, where do you. Because I was like, I don't know what to do. There's so much pressure on that birthday.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

You know, like, the big. Those zero ones. You're like, I don't. I just would rather do nothing. Like, I shut down. And she was. We were getting our hair done, and she was like, it was typical getting your hair done in the foil. So she's like, where do you want to turn 40? And I was like. She was like, I feel like you want to turn 40 at home in Texas. Go back to the root. Full circle. And I was like, I do. I think. And so Billy Bob's gave me the bar on a Monday because they're closed. And we had barbecue, and a bunch of my Texas friends, Randy Rogers and Wade Bowen and Adam Hood played. And it was just a big old honky tonk night. And it was like. It felt like, man, this is, like, why I loved, why I started this in the first place. Like, I just. I've been playing Billy Bob's for so long and going there to see shows, and so I think that was my favorite birthday so far.

[Angie Hicks]

That's perfect. Well, that's the most recent one. You know. What else was I thinking about? Anything in the news that we could think up? Let me pull it. We'll get you out of here soon. To Miranda. I know you guys have a show. You have a show tonight.

[Miranda Lambert]

No, I don't. Tomorrow. Tomorrow.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, tomorrow night?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. Oh, tomorrow night. Yep. For singing for the Doggies.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, for your pups.

[Miranda Lambert]

Music for Mutts. Yeah, it's a benefit for Mutt Nation.

[Angie Hicks]

Music for Mutts. And how. What qualifies a mud.

[Miranda Lambert]

Actually, just us, probably. I don't know. Like, I have just rescue animals, and, like, they're just all just mixed little puppers. And I started a Foundation in 2009 called Mutt Nation foundation with my mom. Yep, that's her. And. And We've raised over $10 million since then. $10 million. $10 million. Wow. We raise awareness for adoption, for spay, neuter for adopt, don't shop. And like, right now, with the Hurricane Helene, we're doing a lot of work with tractor supply, rescue relief, and with greater good to. You know, people are first, obviously, but there's tons of shelters down there that were already overcrowded and got hit, and so just. There's a lot of moving parts. So really what our foundation does is kind of meet the need, whatever the need is. You know, whether it's lifting up shelters, giving them grants for renovations, natural disasters, we kind of run the gamut. But our main focus is to encourage people to adopt.

[Angie Hicks]

And once someone creates something like this, this foundation. Right, yeah. So this is a nonprofit organization. How do you raise funds for it? Obviously, you can do fundraiser shows. You can put your own money into it, and then how does. I'm just curious. How does a nonprofit even. Well, I guess those are the ways you put money into it. Or you do fundraisers.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, we've done fundraisers. I sing for the pups. I mean, we haven't done a music one, but, like, for my Vegas residency, we gave a dollar a ticket, and I was there for two years. So a dollar ticket. We've done that on tour, where a dollar ticket goes to Mutt Nation. And then this is our first benefit show in a couple years. So excited. I got some friends coming out to sing. Some surprises.

[Angie Hicks]

Really? Yes.

[Miranda Lambert]

It'll be fun.

[Angie Hicks]

Can any of the animals ever tune in? Any of them ever hit a B sharp or something? And have you ever trained any?

[Miranda Lambert]

My mom has this terrible shitty dog, though. His name is Roadie, and he's just like my dad. I know my dad found him on the.

[Angie Hicks]

Was he held back in school?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yes. And he has an underbite, and he's a chiweenie. It's like the worst of all the world.

[Angie Hicks]

What is that?

[Miranda Lambert]

And he's like my little shitty brother now. And that's what she calls him, because me and my brother, my real brother, are like, God, sibling of arts Is terrible. And he will sit there. My dad plays guitar and write songs. And it's specifically George Jones. He stopped loving her today. When dad starts singing that. That thing howls. And it's like this screeching, awful noise. And you have to put it away. Like you have to put the dog in the house. And it still. You could hear it howling. And then my. That part where they go, oh, you stop loving that thing howls. And it's just like. And my parents think it's cute. Which is even worse.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, God.

[Miranda Lambert]

I know. It's stores, so. Yeah, they could be. Some dogs sing. Do you want them to? Absolutely not.

[Angie Hicks]

But if you could organize them.

[Miranda Lambert]

Well, yeah, we can do like a family choir.

[Angie Hicks]

That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, get your little batch of hounds in those. In those church gowns or whatever.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, we could do it. I mean, anything can be done. We could ask Chad. Yeah, Chad will do it.

[Angie Hicks]

That's Chad. GPT. Hey, organize these muts, guys. Was there two pieces of news? Anything else in the news? What were the top two news stories that we had in there? Oh, yeah, this is a. And we don't have to talk about this either if you don't. If it's an awkward thing. Yeah. Garth Brooks got accused of harassment. Did you ever know him as a bad guy? I always heard the nicest things about him.

[Miranda Lambert]

I don't know him. I don't. I just heard this today, so I have not been down the news, like rabbit hole of this. So it's fresh off the press. I have nothing to say about it. But I'm. I want to read it. I mean, I'm gonna read it like everybody else. I'm gonna read it. I want to know.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah, no, I've. I've always heard the nice things about him or I've always. But he's always seemed kind of mysterious to me in a way. Like he always has seemed like he's done his own thing, I guess. You know, he was the biggest artist when I was a kid.

[Miranda Lambert]

He was my first concert.

[Angie Hicks]

Was he?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yep. When I was 10 years old. Not to a Texas stadium any flew in. He like dropped out of a helicopter and they. When he did standing outside the fire and they lit the whole stage on fire and I was like. And I. Okay, this is bad. But I had braces. But only two because I had a gap. So I had to do the gap, close the gap on the front two.

[Angie Hicks]

So just those two.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

Who had. I haven't even heard of that.

[Miranda Lambert]

Well, this Was a while ago. They should never do this to a child ever again. Now they have, like, Invisalign. It's not. It's not fair. Kids these days don't have to be ugly. Like, we were ugly. Like, we had just. I had scrunchy hair and teasing Jesus and braces and all things. But I had the two braces when I saw that Garth Brooks show. And I had all my Rockies. Do you remember those jeans that were like real high waisted with no back pockets? Everybody's butt looked real long.

[Angie Hicks]

And it had a. The label was black and white lettering, Rockies.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. And I had on those, and they were red. And I had on my roper boots and I was so excited. My flame shirt. I was like, my brush popper, like. And he came in and dropped out of that helicopter. And I was just like, guards. I was like, screaming and I was like, waving. But I only had the two. And I had, like pink rubber bands on them. So just like, totally. And it was in that area where you would, like curl one bang up and one down and tease it and it would look like a big cloud.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, that was never an era. But tell me more about it.

[Miranda Lambert]

It was so bad. It was so bad. And I just was so excited. And I was like, I'm gonna be a country singer. It was epic.

[Angie Hicks]

Standing outside.

[Miranda Lambert]

Oh, I was just thinking all of it. And I would get so excited when I could say, damned old rodeo. My mom would be like. And my mom would be like, that's cuss word. And I'd be like, well, Gar said it, so I get to say it.

[Angie Hicks]

Dude, the beach is a Cheyenne. So many good songs.

[Miranda Lambert]

So many. Yep. That no offenses record. I bought the tape. I'm older than you, but I had the conception.

[Angie Hicks]

We used to play that tape together. Oh, we used to play. We used to. They used to have this thing called Crying, Loving or leaving on the radio. Do you remember that?

[Miranda Lambert]

Yes. I loved that. Did you record the countdown? Like, yeah, same. And you had to push the button at the exact right time.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. And for. But for two years, the number one song was Whitney Houston. I was like, gee, can we just do something? Can't Red Hot Chili Peppers do something? Like, we just had. It was this.

[Miranda Lambert]

Why can't we do Scar Tissue?

[Angie Hicks]

It was the number one song for so long. I was like, something's got to happen, man. We need a war in this country, you know? I was just like, we got it. We needed something new in there. But yeah, that was. And that's when all the music, some of the channels even. It was all of the. It was all one. That top 40 was. Anything was in there.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, Everything. Because it was at Casey Kasem. Yeah. So it was like all of the songs. Like, it wasn't just one genre.

[Angie Hicks]

Crying, loving or leaving. Was it though? Hey, Ernie, where are you? And he's like, yeah, I'm over here in Davenport, Iowa. First time caller, he be like, you crying, loving or leaving, Ernie? And he'd be like, I'm loving.

[Miranda Lambert]

I want to see if we could like find that and listen to it. Like, I wonder if it exists somewhere on YouTube or something. I would totally listen to that.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. Oh, I called in. I called in two times. Got through. I called in 60, 75.

[Miranda Lambert]

What were you doing? Crying, loving or leaving?

[Angie Hicks]

I was loving one time and then I was leaving one time. I was going to leave home. I was going to go to the post office and mail myself somewhere else. That was my goal. And they're like, you can't do that.

[Miranda Lambert]

But you're gonna mail yourself somewhere else.

[Angie Hicks]

Yep.

[Miranda Lambert]

That'd be kind of cool. I'm here.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, I rode my bike all the way over there and it was closed. I thought it was open 24 hours a day. I'm like, what the hell can you guys can even. But just learned a lot that year. But yeah. Crying lover and leave him. Play one of them real quick for us if you can. It exists today's country 177GNA.

[Miranda Lambert]

Perfect one to pick, by the way.

[Angie Hicks]

Brian stopping by from all. What's up, Brian? I was wondering if you could play God game.

[Miranda Lambert]

Perfect. Perfect.

[Angie Hicks]

There's no way. We did not.

[Miranda Lambert]

That is so perfect.

[Angie Hicks]

Brandon. I swear to God.

[Miranda Lambert]

That was one of them.

[Angie Hicks]

We did not pick that on purpose. I had no idea. We were.

[Miranda Lambert]

That was actually perfect. Oh, my God.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

He was my first wedding song. Guys, let's play. That was it. Really.

[Angie Hicks]

I'm sorry. It was you believe me, though, that we did not do that on purpose.

[Miranda Lambert]

I love it.

[Angie Hicks]

We did not do that on purpose.

[Miranda Lambert]

We just manifested all of that.

[Angie Hicks]

I would never do it.

[Miranda Lambert]

We're crying, loving and leaving now. Bye.

[Angie Hicks]

Leaving.

[Miranda Lambert]

Okay, done. Left.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. Yeah, all three.

[Miranda Lambert]

We need to do a new spin off of it.

[Angie Hicks]

I should have it. Look, I wonder if Kicks Brooks does something like that, because I know he has. I think he has a weekly show or something, but that was it, man. When you were a kid waiting to hear if somebody was crying, loving her, leaving. You even know.

[Miranda Lambert]

I'm gonna listen to these. Not that one.

[Angie Hicks]

Particular where people were. And if they did that on purpose, that's pretty funny. I don't think they would do that.

[Miranda Lambert]

It's pretty funny.

[Angie Hicks]

They're too nice of guys to. To actually do that. About the new album, what else? What, like, what's new about it? What feels new to you about it? Obviously, you have new tunes and. And that sort of thing, but. Yeah, like, what feels, like, exciting to you about it or anything different?

[Miranda Lambert]

Well, I made it in Texas. It's the first time I've recorded in Texas since I was 18.

[Angie Hicks]

Okay, so we're back to your roots.

[Miranda Lambert]

Back to the roots. Yeah. I wanted to go to Austin and just, like, really? It's really honky tonk record. I mean, it sounds like my childhood. It sounds like the music I grew up on, and I think it's just because I have a new chapter, a new label, a new decade ahead of me of, like, whatever's gonna happen. And I wanted to, like, go back to the root of where the whole passion started to begin with, which was like, playing those honky tonks in Texas. Like, I think I had that sort of awakening when I had my birthday at Billy Bob's, and I was like, I'm turning 40 at one of my favorite places on earth in my home state, at a honky tonk, listen to country music. And that's just where my heart lives at the end of the day is a honky tonk listening to country music.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

So it felt right to like, make my own music that way this time, you know?

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. It's hard for your heart to kind of get back home when your life gets busy like that. In a way, you know, it is.

[Miranda Lambert]

And I have. I have a house in Austin. I spent a lot of time in Austin.

[Angie Hicks]

I love Austin.

[Miranda Lambert]

Me too. My little brother lives there, and. And I just. I don't know. I always say I'm a TNT state girl because my heart's half in Tennessee, half in Texas, and. But both places that I live are revolve around music, and I love that.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. It's like sometimes your life gets so busy, and then you're like. You're like. It stops at a certain point. There's a special day or a moment. You're like, okay, I can get a look at where I'm at.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah, it's good to, like, have enough time to stop and look at where you're at, because I didn't for so long. I mean, when you're young and you start young, following your dream, and then you just Sort of are a horse with blinders. Then you stop and you go, okay, I'm now what? I made it. Now what? You know, and it's. It's like. It's kind of a weird spot to be. But then once you embrace it, which is where I feel like I am right now, just embracing. Like, look what I've done so far. But, like, what else can we do, you know?

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

Still feel really inspired and excited. I mean, I definitely don't have the same energy for, like, long, you know, 150 days a year on the road or anything, but I'm still so inspired to, like, rat songs. And, you know, I love the music. I can't. It's. It's my life. I dedicated my whole life to it.

[Angie Hicks]

It is funny. You kind of. Yeah, you do. When you get busy and your career gets busy, you. A lot of you gets dedicated to what it is. It's like I spend most of my time. Like, I have some close friends I don't even get to talk to that much. And I know it's sad to say people like, will you work instead of talk to them? But it's almost like you build up your dream and. But then your dream takes a lot of responsibility.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah. You know, and nobody tells you what to do when you have done it. Like, there's not, like, a manual you can, like, there's not, like a podcast you can, like, go back and look at and be like, so now what happens at this point in my career, at this age with this. These accolades, like, what happens now? You just figure it out as you go. And, you know, I'm, like, working with younger artists now and, like, new artists have a label called Big La Texas.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

Partnership with Big Loud. And.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, your part. That's your. So you guys have a branch there now.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yep.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, that's awesome, dude.

[Miranda Lambert]

And it's, you know, keeping that Steven.

[Angie Hicks]

Wilson Jr. On Big Loud, too.

[Miranda Lambert]

He's on Big Loud. Let's go. So he's playing in Nashville.

[Angie Hicks]

Patches. Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

Torn Cigarette.

[Angie Hicks]

Oh, when he said. Is this song called Torn Cigarettes?

[Miranda Lambert]

It's called Patches.

[Angie Hicks]

But. Oh, that lyric that he said, I'm a torn cigarette.

[Miranda Lambert]

My patches got patched. It's so good. But he is playing In Nashville, everyone. December 4th.

[Angie Hicks]

Tethered.

[Miranda Lambert]

So good.

[Angie Hicks]

My father's son Drain my blood to God.

[Miranda Lambert]

It's like the one. It's one of the greatest records come out in a decade.

[Angie Hicks]

That's our audio slave, man.

[Miranda Lambert]

It really is. It's all of it. It's Hillbilly and it's rage, and it's sad and it's funny.

[Angie Hicks]

It even has a Native American. Some of the beats, some of the drums that he uses have a very, like, native sound to me.

[Miranda Lambert]

It's great.

[Angie Hicks]

It blows me. I. I'm like. And I keep finding new songs on it that I like. That's. That's what's always amazing.

[Miranda Lambert]

Keep going back and hearing them.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. And you're like, oh, now this one I like.

[Miranda Lambert]

Now this hit me. Weird. Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

Let's get weird, buddy.

[Miranda Lambert]

Anyway, also, like, the doers is, like, Little Vest. He's just, like, wears his little vest in all his videos. Just in there freaking slaying the guitar. And he's just, like, a little puffy vest.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

Just cozy. I love it. There he is. His puffy vest. I love it.

[Angie Hicks]

He looks like a lifeguard at Woodstock, kind of, in a way. You know what I'm saying? He has a very safe but risque vibe, dude. You can tell.

[Miranda Lambert]

He's so sweet, by the way. Like, the sweetest.

[Angie Hicks]

You can tell. Like, I've just listened to some interviews and stuff with him and just listen to his music. I got to see him play one night at Whiskey Jam.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

At Whiskey Jam, and that was so cool. But, yeah, it's amazing. Him, Ray Clay Strays. I've been listening to. Great. So much good music out there.

[Miranda Lambert]

So much.

[Angie Hicks]

Yep.

[Miranda Lambert]

So many great. Laney Wilson. I know you love her so much.

[Angie Hicks]

God, if they had 11, Laney Wilson's.

[Miranda Lambert]

Good gal pal, you'd be in there in the donut box with 11 Lady Wilson. Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. And you'd be the cop.

[Miranda Lambert]

I would.

[Angie Hicks]

Well, no. Well, look, like.

[Miranda Lambert]

What are y'all doing?

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah. Hey, what are you doing in there, huh?

[Miranda Lambert]

With a New York accent. I got to work on that.

[Angie Hicks]

Hey, what are you doing? Anyway, Miranda Lambert, thank you so much for all the beautiful music. Thank you for spending time with us today and just sharing a little bit of your life and. Yeah, and thanks for just, like, the inspiration and just be in a space of, like, hey, this is where you are. And now let's see where we are, and let's make the best stuff yet to come. And. Yeah, I just really enjoyed my time.

[Miranda Lambert]

Well, thank you. We got deep, and it was good. I liked it.

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

We talked about some good songs, too.

[Angie Hicks]

It's nice. Yep, we sure did. Your new album is out.

[Miranda Lambert]

It is. It is called Postcards from Texas.

[Angie Hicks]

Postcards from Texas. And. And, yeah, we'll be listening to it. And.

[Miranda Lambert]

And you got to check out. Aaron. Right here.

[Angie Hicks]

Okay.

[Miranda Lambert]

You're gonna like them.

[Angie Hicks]

Okay.

[Miranda Lambert]

Quirky one?

[Angie Hicks]

Yeah.

[Miranda Lambert]

Yeah.

[Angie Hicks]

All right, I'm in. Thank you so much.

[Miranda Lambert]

Thank you.

[Angie Hicks]

Yep.

[Miranda Lambert]

Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I've I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this piece of mind I found I can feel it in my bones but it's gonna take a little.