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Good to see you too. Yeah, man, we had a fun time. We were just talking about how if we had a camera on us when we were in Vegas having dinner a couple of weeks ago, that one night pro. We were so silly.
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We were dying after ufc.
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Dying.
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Your buddies were there. One of them. There was pro pool. Pool players.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Jeremy Jones and Carl Boyce.
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And they were. They had been swimming in a pool of beer, playing in a deep end of a pool.
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They were there for six hours of the fights, drinking. They were cooked because they got there with me. So they started watching the fights at like 3:30pm yeah.
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Oh, during that Chris Wyman fight, one of them kept yelling hole one over and over again. So I. Yeah, I knew that they were hole in one. Yeah. I mean, they were just getting pretty cooked up.
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Well, that's unfortunate.
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Yeah. Dude, that was fun. That dinner was fun. It was f. That place was fancy in there, but it was a good time, man. You just got back from Scotland.
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Yeah.
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Well, how was it? Oh, Joe Rogan.
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Holy.
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Did they talk to you like that? Oh, Joe.
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They talk like that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to do an impression of it. I'll fuck it up. But I like it over there. It's beautiful.
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Would you like. Was there.
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I think that it's like, it's one of the most beautiful places, but it's, like, very lightly populated. I almost don't want to talk about it because it's so cool because there's not a lot of people there.
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Oh, yeah.
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But it's also. There's like some shit there that's so old. They had some guide stones on this property and they said, I go, how old are these things? They're like thousands of years old. We don't even know. Don't know who put them there. Don't know why they're there. So these like 4,000, 5,000 year old stones that are sticking out of the ground, they have a stone circle there that's older than Stonehenge. It's crazy.
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Yeah, yeah. Stonehenge is crazy. Dude. I remember when in school they would teach us, like, stonehenge, it's crazy. Who knows what happened, you know, like smurfs, aliens, like, they had all this crazy. They would teach you and then taught.
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You about that in school.
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Yeah, yeah, Smurfs. Or just everybody didn't know what it was about. Right. But then Stonehenge is by Smurfs.
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Jamie, did you get that in Ohio? Did they teach you about it all at the same time, like him?
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Yeah, this is during the 80s, early 90s, and. But then we went there one time we were touring and we drove by and literally they had an exit for Stonehenge. And it was just right there. It was like a rest area. It was just like right off the highway.
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And when you went there, was it impressive?
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No, it was like, I was impressed because I'd learned they didn't give a fuck. There's like, people, they're just like changing their kids in front of it and stuff on the ground. Like, people didn't give a shit.
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Walk up to it and touch it. Right?
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It's right there, dude. They had like a sign that was like. I don't even think it said please don't touch. It was like just something more vague than that.
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Did you ever see the Georgia guidestones? The Georgia guidestones were this thing that. I don't know if they know who built it. Do they know who funded that thing? I don't think so. So they were found out. The Georgia guidestones. Somebody spent a lot of money to make these giant stone statues with the guides to how to keep a civilization intact. And then.
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Oh, like the rules.
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Yeah.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah. It's written in a bunch of different languages. So what is it? Like? So somebody blew it up, man.
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No.
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Oh, yeah. Let's sit down the bottom. Somebody. Somebody blew it up. And then they decided after the person blew up part of it to destroy it all, which I don't understand that logic. Why they wouldn't just rebuild it. Why didn't you just rebuild it? So mysterious monument meant to guide into an age of reason was destroyed after an apparent bombing.
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That's. And that right there is like, a perfect example of existence. It feels like.
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How about just leave it there?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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June.
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In 1979, a man going by the pseudonym of R.C. christian approached the Elberton Granite Finishing Company with the task of building a monument. He said that no one was ever to know his true identity or that the group that he was representing. Representing, or the group that he. Of the group or that of the group that he was representing. He seemed to have an endless supply of money to fund the project, and by the terms of the legal contract, all plans had to be destroyed after completion and all information about him withheld from the public. So the stones are finished in 1980. They carry a tablet in front proclaiming, let these be guidestones to an Age of Reason. Engraved in the stones are 10 guidelines meant to reestablish the planet and society, perhaps after an apocalypse. They're written in eight different languages. English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindu, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian, amongst other commandments, preached to maintain humanity under 500 million in perpetual balance with nature. Wow. Rule, passion, faith, tradition, and all things with tempered reason. Balance, personal rights with social duties. Yeah. Be not a cancer on the earth. Leave room for nature.
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Wow.
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Solid laws.
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Yeah. Do you think that's solid? Yeah, it seems like a great plan. Do you think that humanity is supposed to reach, like, this place where we kind of get it all figured out, or do you think it's always just this constant ebb and flow of, like, well, I think step forward, step back, or two steps forward, step back.
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We were talking about on the podcast, like, what's happening in terms of, like, people slowly turning into genderless aliens.
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Yeah.
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You know, I think. I think that's probably really what's going on. I don't think humanity ever gets together. I think humanity stops being humanity because I think what keeps us from getting it together, a lot of it is if you think about the horrors of society, like violence, war, thievery, like stealing resources, all that stuff, imprisoning people, corruption, all those things are, like. Those are built in primal behaviors in human beings, especially with unchecked power. And I think that as long as we're just human beings, we're going to have those things. We'll have less and less of them. We have way less now than we had during King Henry viii. Like back during King Henry viii, you couldn't have a podcast. He would kill you. When he wanted to get rid of his wives, he just chopped their heads off. Oh, let me get a new one. Get rid of her. Off with her head.
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You couldn't do that was the thing, right?
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Was it. Was it Henry VIII that was off of their head? Wasn't he the guy? He had like a few of them.
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He would see it now. It would be. His wife would make a tick tock about it in a heartbeat, I feel like. Or her sister would.
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Oh, yeah, she was like that. There's nothing wrong with her head. He said her head was cursed.
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Henry is lying. Yeah, yeah.
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Nowadays are different, man. So there's like. That's like Steven Pinker's work, if you follow his work on violence and crime. People always want to think that violence and crime is more now than ever before, but the reality is when you look at the course of human history, it's. There's never been a more safe time to be alive than right now.
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What do you think it looks like coming up? Do you think, like, people start to like, if fear. If people continue to be so, like, full of fear, do we. Do people like, resort back to, like, their tribal nature or what kind of starts to happen?
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They definitely do. If the power goes out. The only thing that keeps society together is power. As soon as power goes out, you have no electricity, you have no cooling. So you can't stay in places where it's too hot, and you can't live in places where it's too cold. You're in a bad spot there. So then if you're living in a place where it's too cold, you're heavily dependent upon firewood. So a big part of your day is getting firewood. You have to make sure you have enough. If you're living in Siberia, you have to have a fucking shit pile of firewood and you never let that fire go out.
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I'd get a bunch.
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Ever you need to have a bunch.
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I would. I'd get there early.
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You gotta keep that fucking fire going, man, because if you're stuck out there, that's 70 degrees below zero. Like, you'll die, dude.
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Imagine you fall asleep and it goes out and then you have to wake up the other people.
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Guys aren't using matches to start fires either, because, you know, that's one of the things that survivalists will tell you is like, you're going to run out of matches. You should learn how to start a fire without matches. So you got to learn how to start a fire with steel and flint.
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And, you know, I don't know how.
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It's so not easy, man. There's some fire starters you can get. Like, they're pretty good.
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Have you seen people do it, like when you go hunting and stuff? You have.
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I've done it. Yeah. I've started fires with these little flint sticks. So it's like. It's like a piece of steel and a piece of flint and there's these little things called fire starters. And some people make them, too. One. One of the ways they make them is they take cotton balls, like cotton swabs, and they soak them in Vaseline. And so then you take Tinder. So you have like. Some people use steel wool.
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Oh, yeah.
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They use different things that you can. Like there's. You can. You can make it with, like, shavings and dry the shavings out. And then you slowly get little sparks onto those shavings. And then once you get it going, then you put some little sticks on, then you put some bigger sticks on. Now you have a fire.
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Yeah.
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And they say that you should know how to do that because you don't want to be on that last match going. You have to know how to actually start a fire. The best ways with tools. I tried to start a fire when I was in the Boy Scouts with the bow. I don't know if you ever did that one. There's a stick and you. Oh, yeah.
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And you do it like that or whatever. I got cotton eye Joe or whatever.
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I got it to smoke. I got. Blackness came out of it. I never got a fire.
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Damn.
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I never got it to the point where I could, like, light something on fire there.
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Yeah.
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But I was also dumb. I didn't realize you gotta, like, put little tiny pieces of wood down in there. Once it starts going, then blow on it. I didn't. I thought I was.
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A fire was gonna get going just on.
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I thought that thing was going to light fire eventually. Didn't.
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What? In Scotland. Do you see any good music? AC DCs from Scotland.
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Oh, yeah.
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That's what I was thinking of earlier when we're talking. No, that's not them. Is that them?
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Fire.
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ACDC is. Yeah.
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You son of a.
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They keep changing it. They keep changing it.
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They keep changing it. It's like Berenstein bears, you know, it's like the Mandela effect.
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Yeah.
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That's what it is.
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What? Yeah. What's a famous band that is from Scotland.
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Then take that back. Two of the members are from Glasgow, so. Oh, it's not an incorrect. Jamie came at you hard there.
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What else do they sing? Acdc.
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Long Way to the Top.
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Yeah.
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Back in Black. Yeah. Hell's Bells. Yeah. Whole Lot of Rosie.
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I haven't heard that one.
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Yeah, you have. You have. Whole lot of Roses. You know that song.
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Maybe I have heard it.
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You never heard that song. Come on, son, say it again. Listen, give. Give me a little. Whole Lot of Rosie. You got to hear this. You never heard this song. There's no way you never heard the song. This is a. This is a Bon Scott AC DC classic. The Early Days.
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That's a shame, Scott.
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About a woman I know when it comes to loving Steals a show I never heard it. Pretty and it exactly small.
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That's crazy, dude.
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Come on.
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Those were the days, dude.
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It's just picking up. Give me a little more. Oh, we're in trouble already. It's his show. We're in trouble.
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It's your show.
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It's your trouble.
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That's true. We're in trouble, dude. Yeah, we're get. We. Yeah, we probably won't be able to play that, but. What was it called out of.
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Hold on. That they will come for you. Do you see that Facebook put out new standards today for content moderation?
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No, I did see that. They're supposed to. That that Dana White was doing something with Mark Zuckerberg and that they were part of his board now and that they were gonna allow more free speech. That's what they said.
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They're gonna allow more free speech and allow people to not be restricted to talk about things were hot button issues before. Sorry. And they're gonna remove. They're going to remove the content moderation for a type of community notes. Facebook and Instagram get rid of fact checkers. The problem with fact checkers is there's been a lot of fact checkers that were just wrong and it's very ideologically based. Especially anything that has to do with climate change or anything that has to do with vaccines or anything that has to do with anything pharmacologically.
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Yeah. It says in a video post alongside a blog post by the company on Tuesday, Chief executive Mark Zuckerberg said third party moderators were too politically biased and it was time to get back to our roots around free expression. But do you think the real. I wonder if there's something else going on because if I find it hard to believe they're really willing to give up that bias. You know, like I said.
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Well, it's probably not good for business to keep that bias. They're, they're, they're in a business.
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Right.
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Their business is social media. And if Twitter sets a standard, which it clearly does, so Twitter is the most wild of all big platforms. You can get away with a lot of shit on Twitter.
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Yeah.
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That has not been the case with Facebook or Instagram. And if Twitter continues to have the kind of engagement that it has because it lets people go wild. And I know there's a lot of criticisms about even Twitter's content moderation, but everybody has to admit it's certainly better than everywhere else. Yeah, it's like there's a dispute now about whether or not people should be demonetized. Right. Whether if you're allowed to speak on the platform, if they can say, you're saying things we don't like, we're going to be able to take away your ability to make money. Well, you're kind of censoring people in a way because you're, you're enforcing self censorship. Yeah, because they're not going to say those inflammatory things anymore because then, then they need a Adrian Dittman account. Right, Right. Talk some. Blow a little steam off.
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Well, I wonder if little about the government is AI. What if a. But how do we know that the information and AI isn't being adjusted to fit whatever they wanted to say? Like, that's what one thing I always thought, like.
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Well, it is, right? It certainly is. Like, that was the problem with Google's Gemini when it first came out. You know, Google's Gemini, when it first came out, they said make images of Nazi soldiers. They had multicultural Nazi soldiers. Did you see that? Oh, you have to see it. You have to see. You get to freak out.
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They had all types of Nazi soldiers, black Nazi soldiers.
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They had a Native American Nazi. Oh, at least everybody was Chinese Nazis. So dumb. But it's like that's what you try to be woke and you attach it to everything. Look. Oh, well, you're not representing reality. I said show me Vikings, not Chinese. Like, what are you doing? Like, what are you doing? Why, why are you showing me this? Because it's woke is not reality. And if you do that with AI. Like, look at, at those images. Look at that. It looks like guys from Nigeria. The lower left hand corner. Look at the Native American lady with her braids. That's so crazy. That's a Nazi soldier.
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She's a cutie. Kind of.
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She is kind of cute. It's. But look at that. That's nuts. So if that's artificial intelligence, that's not intelligent at all because you're ignoring the reality of what a Nazi looked like.
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Right. But you'd only need a couple generations that it feels like to end up just brainwashing every, you know, 100. Like, that's the thing that's super scary. It's like, instead of controlling, like, what. What people write, you control what the paper will say. Right.
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100.
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It's almost like controlling.
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He who controls the AI controls the. The narrative of the whole country. And it's going to be smarter than you and me. Like, you and me. If we have an opposition to something, maybe we could say it in a funny way. Maybe we can, like, relate to people because they know the way we think. But AI is going to be way better at communicating. So it's going to be like, we're going to look stupid. Like, have you ever had a debate with someone who's way smarter than you and they're making more points than you and you're stuck.
A
Your episode of Luaga, it's frustrating, right?
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But you. You, like, you're trapped and you're like, ah, fuck. I can't really articulate this as well.
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Most of my life is like that.
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Right. So imagine that, but with the smartest people in the world not being able to keep up, because AI is going to literally be like, not just the smartest person in the world, but get all of the smartest people in the world together.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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That's it. I just worry then whoever controls that is going to control everything.
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Exactly. And these eggheads that are running us towards the edge of the cliff have to do what they're doing because China's doing it and they're stealing our data for sure, you know, but let them have it.
A
What are they getting?
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They're replicating our research. They're making AI as well. They're way ahead in a lot of stuff, man. Way ahead. China's way ahead in drone technology. Weird.
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But what is. Somebody could, like sometimes, I guess with drone, they can come and I guess eavesdrop. They can see what's going commercial.
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Drones. Okay. I don't know what the military has. And this was like a big subject of the Sean Ryan podcast the other day. Do you know about this?
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Yeah. They had a guy on there who came through and said that. Oh, that Liversburg guy?
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The guy who supposedly blew himself up in the Tesla cybertruck in front of Trump Tower.
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Yeah.
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Right. So there's a guy who came on the Sean Ryan podcast and said that this dude Matthew Livelsberger is that I said was who apparently was on a television show 12 years ago with Tim Kennedy.
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Oh yeah, I saw that Green Beret.
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TV show where they did Green Beret.
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Pretty cool.
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Yeah. So this guy wrote this manifesto. He sent this. Not I wouldn't say a manifesto but a statement. And in that statement he had, there's no indication he was going to blow himself up in that statement, by the way. The statement was just talking about what he knew. And what was the problem was that these Chinese drones are operating on this anti magnetic technology and that we have this technology as well.
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Was that the stuff that the guy who came on here was talking about that time?
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Here's what he says. Here's he says what we've been seeing with drones is the operational use of gravitic propulsion systems powered by aircraft. Most recently China in the east coast. But throughout history the US only, only we in China have this capability. Our open location for this activity in the box is below. China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years. But this activity recently has picked up. As of now it's just a show of force. And they are using it similar to how they use the balloon for signet and ISR which are also part of the integrated comm system. There are dozens of these balloons in the air at any given time. So what about, so what is because of the speed and stealth of these unmanned AC they are the most dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed. They basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park it over the White House if they wanted. It's checkmate.
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Wow.
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US government needs to give the history of this, how they're employing it and weaponizing it, how China is employing them and what the way forward is. China's poised to attack anywhere in the East Coast.
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Do you think that this is just this seems to me also like a fear tactic.
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It could be. It could be. You know because it feels when someone like that releases a letter like that and then blows themselves up where they don't have a chance to talk and shot himself in the head with a Desert Eagle. You ever seen a Desert Eagle? It's a giant overkill of a gun. It's like a 50 caliber pistol. But is it is a Desert Eagle 50 caliber? Yes. I, I, they, I don't know. I mean they found the Desert Eagle. I don't know if this officially said. That's always oh but didn't they say that he shot himself in the head. They said there was a gunshot, wounded the head of the victim in the car.
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And it was the worst, too, because.
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Yeah. They didn't even claim it was him yet. Right.
A
Wow.
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They have it. No, because the DNA is so destroyed. I mean, he's cooked. So they have to, you know, sample DNA and then run it through a lab and then figure out if it's him. They just think they believe it's him, though.
A
Right. It's so crazy how when something happens now, it's like there's. We get the news so fast. Right. And we get video footage of it fat. Like, we get a lot of things fast that you don't. You start getting so many ideas of what's happened and so many, like, angles and lanes. And you've had two podcasts come out from different people before you even get anything from, like, the authorities. Right, Right. But then you feel like you can't even trust the authorities anyway. It's so wild how we're just. Or having a piece. Everyone is kind of piecing together for themselves what has happened every time.
B
That's crazy. So that's. That shows what it actually looks like when a.50 caliber shoots a skull that's wrapped up in that ballistic show.
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One more time. Can we show this?
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Yeah. Watch this. Boom. It just gets destroyed. That's. It's a enormous round. I mean, it's massive overkill to shoot yourself in the head with one of those. But the question is, why would you use a cyber truck? Because one of the things about a cybertruck is if you're trying to do damage, a cyber truck is way more robust than most trucks. I mean, you can't even. They're bulletproof.
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Yeah.
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You know, I should shoot an arrow through one of them out here.
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Yeah. Which is the worst thing ever to say about a vehicle I drive. I have a cyber truck. And it's the. Because then everybody's like, oh, is it bulletproof? You know, they want to shoot at your truck. Everybody's like, yes, look at this metal queer. People would yell at me and, like. Like, what is going on? Like, that's so weir. Is crazy. I mean, but people want to challenge it.
B
Yeah. They don't like it. There's a lot of people that either love those things. I'm on that side. Or hate them. That's my whole family.
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Oh, yeah.
B
They.
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Ew.
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They think they look gross.
A
I feel a little embarrassed when I get out of it sometimes or when I have to get back in it.
B
It's a statement.
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I. Well, I got it like five years ago. I wanted it so bad. And you could put it on 100 bucks and say you had one kind.
B
Of, you know, like, I got one on order.
A
Yeah, I got one on order. Right. Everybody had one. But the thing that you always feel like you're working for Lowe's, but you're never dropping off whatever you're supposed to drop off, too.
B
You feel like you're pickup truck.
A
Yeah, I feel like I'm always like. Like, you got a pickup truck?
B
Actually.
A
That's a good point. I feel like I've always got a washer dryer, but I've just don't know how to. It just. It has a feeling to it. Like I work for a Home Depot and I'm delivering a whirlpool.
B
Yeah. Like something heavy.
A
Yeah.
B
What's so heavy?
A
I always have always that feeling, that feeling. Refrigerator.
B
It feels like, bro, if you get an accident with that thing, you're gonna do some damage, dude.
A
I'll tell you what you don't want to do is get stuck in rural Mississippi having to charge that.
B
Did you?
A
Yeah. No, during the holidays.
B
Oh, no. What'd you do, dude?
A
Well, first of all, I pull up.
B
And this must circular coyotes.
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It was crazy. People were coming by, looking at it.
B
Grabbing their engines from a distance.
A
Yeah.
B
Challenging your technology.
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People were like. Women were like. Who were like, barren, were like rubbing their piece against it and stuff like that. Like, people were like thinking it had magical powers. Some brother came right up, right. I had the window cracked. He ordered two black and mild from me. Like, I was like. I was like, I'm just charging. Like, let me get too black and mad, you know? Like, I was in a. Like, you can't even imagine where. Where I was town, probably 600 people.
B
How did they have a charger?
A
This one place had a charger. It was like an iga.
B
How long did it take you to charge that whole cyber truck?
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It took me two hours to just get enough to get out of there.
B
How many miles did you get with two hours? Where? The Charger.
A
I would bet I got 40 miles.
B
That's it?
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Yeah, it was. It was a tough. I mean, it took me half the day to get back to my mom's in Baton Rouge.
B
See, that's the problem with long distance. Unless you go to a place that has, like, cities where they have the superchargers.
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Yeah. Well, I. Then when I drove back to Nashville, I hit, like, ones that had 300, 250 kilowatt. Hours. One has 400 kilowatt hours. There's a Mercedes dealership.
B
Wow. So how quick would that charge you up?
A
That thing will charge you up, I bet in about 45 minutes. All the way to 320 miles.
B
That's still a long time, dude.
A
I plugged it in at my buddy's house. It gave me two miles an hour. So in the more I woke up six hours later and had 12 miles.
B
That's so crazy.
A
Yeah, so that was. But that was just like a, like a lamp. Yeah, basically.
B
Yeah.
A
A lot of power to read by.
B
Do you really save money though? Have you ever looked at that? Like it's like how much paying on gas versus how much does it cost for electricity?
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I don't think you really save any money. And especially if you have to charge on one of those trips. Trips. Then it costs like it's pretty expensive to charge up. Like it's not more than gas, but it's probably half the price, dude. And then this was the worst thing. So in Louisiana, they put a couple chargers back behind this church's chicken, right? I gotta tell you about this.
B
He gets some hand movements in here.
A
Well, look, it's like as soon as.
B
You start doing this, like, I know you got a point.
A
This was my holidays, dude. It was tragic. So I get off, I, I get. They got a church's chicken, right? So to drive, the chargers are behind the church's chicken for some reason. But there's no lane to just drive back to the chargers. You have to get in the to go lane of the church's chickens. You have to go in. So there's a big line at the church's chicken, right? So I get in line. I have to wait in line to go to the lady at the order thing. You know, it's like, take your order at the to go order. And I'm like, I'm just going to the charger. So then I go back there and now I have to like meander back and forth, like back and forth to get my car to park. And it's hardly any room now. I'm just facing the people who are waiting in line to pick up their chicken. And there's two, two types of people in the world. There's like people that wait in line at a church's chicken in a drive thru to get food and people who have a electric vehicle, right? They're just, they're two different people.
B
Very. Oh.
A
So all these people are like, look. And then I had to leave, right? So I Sit there in charge. I had to leave. Some lady is like, wouldn't let me back in line because she want me getting her chicken. Right? She's like, you can't get my chicken. And I'm like, I. I don't want your chicken. Right.
B
I'm just trying to get out of here.
A
Just try. But there was no way to go around the line. Like, you had to get in the line.
B
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
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So.
B
So you had to order chicken in order to use their electricity?
A
No, but I had to promise a lady I was not gonna get her chicken. Dude, I'll give you 11 not to ever even get any chicken from this place.
B
11? That's not enough.
A
Or 27 or whatever. It just made me mad, dude. But anyway, just that whole.
B
But just how fast was that charger?
A
That charge was pretty quick. It's 250 kilowatts an hour. Say about an hour. An hour and 15 minutes.
B
You could charge her and you were ready to go. An hour and 15 minutes.
A
I got out of there pretty. I got out of there early. I cut out early, but it was just a lot, man.
B
I love driving a Tesla around town because I know I'll be able to park it at home or park it here and charge it. But if I had to go on a road trip, I would be very nervous.
A
Yeah, I would say, do not do it. That's what I would say.
B
So it's like whatever the range is. Like. Let's say the range is 360 miles. Not the way I drive.
A
Yeah, you're not getting that. You're getting 220. Yeah, 210.
B
When you accelerate on the highway, you're.
A
Like, oh, I pulled into a Charger with four or five miles left. Right into that.
B
Then you're. That's like a pedestrian.
A
I don't give a.
B
You're so close to being a pedestrian. You're like minutes on a watch. Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock. Away from being a pedestrian. Like, from walking until you run out of water. Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock. You're four minutes away. That dude fire. See this? You can call a tow truck. They can come with a tank of gas like that.
A
But that one doesn't show up.
B
You tip the guy. Thank you, brother. Appreciate it. Where's the nearest gas station? He hooks you up. You pay for the gas. You pay for his service. You give him a tip. You drive to the Gas station, bro. That's a 15 minute ordeal. You're good to go. Filled up. You got beef jerky. You get a mountain diet. Mountain Dew.
A
Hell yeah.
B
You got a bag of peanuts you're not gonna eat. You're on the road.
A
Yeah. You got a. You're riding in your truck again. You're ready to fart and huff it again.
B
We're talking about farting in the earlier episode. Guys, I wonder if there's been a study on the drop in IQ from huffing your own farts, driving trucks.
A
It can't be good for you or animals would do it. You know what I'm saying? Or you would. See, I guess caved animals probably do it.
B
It can't be good for you. Just can't be.
A
No. Because it's your body trying to say, no way. And then your nose is like, yeah.
B
You know what's really bad for you? Scented candles.
A
Really?
B
Yeah, I was reading about this. They're trying to figure out why there's been an uptick in lung cancer from people that don't smoke. And they're trying to figure out what it is, and they think it's. There's a combination of factors. Burning toxins. Some cooking oils, when burned, create like, problems. And people inhaling, like, especially for prolonged periods of time. But also candles, like, candles are not good for you. Those scented candles, you're getting a bunch of funky chemicals. You breathe. So if you have a one bedroom apartment, right? You got a little bedroom, you got like 10 candles in there because you like it looking sexy. You know, you like to listen to moody music.
A
You know, you like to lay on your back and jerk off with your legs in the air like that.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. Like some weirdo.
B
Yeah. Listening to PJ O'Rourke.
A
Listen to Cholo steam.
B
Under the bridge.
A
Yeah.
B
I want to get moody.
A
Dude, that has to be the. The craziest way to jerk off is laying on your back. Legs in the air, right?
B
Legs in the air. Yeah. To God.
A
Crazy. Hold on. And some. One of my buddies, like, yeah. Sometimes I put a pillow under my butt. I'm like, what is that?
B
I don't even feel comfortable stretching like that when I'm alone. You know, I stretch like that when I'm alone. I lie on my back and I get both my ankles and I pull them down like this to work on my kicking flexibility. I don't even feel comfortable doing that. But I'm by myself. Just me by myself.
A
Yeah.
B
Stretching out my legs like this. Like wee.
A
That's hitchhiking. For the devil, right?
B
I'm giving off a message to the demons in the world.
A
This ABC Wednesdays Tim Allen and Kat Dennings star in the new family comedy Shifting Gears.
B
Dad I'm Brad and I need a place to stay until I figure out.
A
What the rest of my life looks like.
B
So a couple of days when his.
A
Daughter moves back in. The last time you walked out that.
B
Door, you looked back at me and.
A
Gave me a double bird.
B
I was 18.
A
The double bird was how I ended all our conversations.
B
The wheels come off.
A
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B
Think demons are real?
A
Oh, yeah. I believe that there's, I believe that there's good and evil.
B
Yeah, I do too.
A
And some of it I believe is might be our own individual wars, you know, and I believe that there could be a group war. I'm amazed that at a group level we don't start to say, hey, this stuff is evil and let's not do it right? But I think that's where like temptation and all that comes in. And yeah, I think it's pretty fascinating. Sometimes I'll wake up with and look at my life as like, wow, this is a war I'm in. This is a. And I am the, the, the, the guy who's leading my vessel or whatever, you know, there is doing my best, you know, doing my best.
B
That is kind of what it is, There's a lot of that, right? You're in a war of choices. You're in a war of decisions, and you're a war of good behavior and. And detrimental and destructive behavior. And, you know, when. I mean, especially guys like you that have gone through periods of addiction, you know, that's always a war of temptation in your mind. There's always going to be that. There. There's always going to be smelling sounds.
A
Oh, I'll hit it.
B
There's always going to be smelling. So I'd spring you. This is. This is the dark road. This is. Everybody wants to talk about gateway drugs. Oh, don't you bring out a new one, you son of a.
A
You got it.
B
This one's strong enough, Jamie. Let's check. Is that strawberry strong? No. Trying to find flavored. The thing is, they're so scary when they bring the new ones out. Like, I'm scared of the new ones. The scare.
A
Oh, this one's so strong. It is.
B
Oh, my God, this is so strong.
A
I can already. Oh, feel a little of that. God. Let me know what the difference is, Jamie. Let me ride that little bit.
B
You know what the difference is? This one, I kept this on it. I didn't even realize I was doing it, but I kept that on it. And then it was sealed.
A
I'd lay on my back in 69. This thing, brother, it's already gonna be strong, Joe.
B
Quiet that.
A
Don't look at me when I do it.
B
Hit it, hit it.
A
I didn't get enough.
B
You didn't get enough. Nope. You didn't inhale. You got scared. You missed.
A
You're right.
B
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. No, no. You don't do that. You don't do that. What you just did scared everyone. I'm sweating. I'm sweating, too, because of that.
A
Sorry.
B
How are you? Are you okay, bro? You just changed timelines. Because of you. Justin Trudeau resigned because of that.
A
Give me another.
B
Before that. Before you did that, it was a different timeline. Trump didn't win. Trudeau didn't resign. Mark Zuckerberg didn't start doing Jiu Jitsu. That's part of what happened, by the way. I'll tell you for a fact. Mark Zuckerberg started doing Jiu jitsu, and nothing turns you into a libertarian like Jiu jitsu.
A
Really?
B
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nothing turns you into a person who, like, really values hard work and discipline and struggle like Jiu Jitsu, huh? Because exposure of character on a level that, like, there's nothing, nothing else Is like it.
A
Wow. I hadn't thought about that that much.
B
Yeah, because you expose character in a way that it's almost impossible, even with other martial arts. Because with other martial arts, you can only spar so much. Man. Man, believe me. Because I sparred too much. You spar a lot. You get hurt, and you get hurt. Eventually you get dinged up with a point where your brain is just not firing so well anymore. Like, I was reading this horrible story where they're talking about Parkinson's and Muhammad Ali's daughter was talking about. She remembers when she was young, when he fought Leon Spinks the second time. She could tell afterwards that he talked different.
A
Oh.
B
Oh.
A
You know, it's got to be tough for a kid, huh? And you probably pretend that he doesn't because you don't want to hurt his feelings or whatever.
B
Well, you. You must be so scared. If you're a kid and your father is a fighter. That has to be so terrifying. Yeah. Especially watching your. I've seen people that bring their kids to a fight and then they get flatlined, and you see the. The terror in the kid's eyes where their father is fucking laid out unconscious, bleeding from his mouth. A doctor's holding his head up and his feet are twitching.
A
Yeah. And sometimes the kid doesn't even know if the dad won or not. He's still cheering. And you're like, this is. Doesn't make any sense, dude. This kid is crazy.
B
That kid might have other problems. That kid might be already sparring already. That kid sparring young. There's an argument for sparring young because you can't hurt each other.
A
Oh, yeah. Sometimes I'll see, like, reels on the Internet of. On social media of kids that are young sparring. It's really funny. Sometimes they don't know what to do.
B
Well, as long as they learn control, they got to learn. Learn control. But if they learn control when they're young and they learn not to hit each other hard, but just to do it fast, man, they can get so good because they don't hurt each other the way adults hurt each other.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, once you get to be, like, 170 pounds, man, you can generate a lot of force. And so if you're sparring hard with another guy that's 170 pounds, you're blasting each other in the face and the legs and the body. It's like, oh, God, you do so much damage.
A
Yeah.
B
So much damage. But little kids don't do that kind of damage. They just slap each other a Little pat, pat, pat. They just tap each other. It's like a good way to learn.
A
Oh, if I could go back and.
B
Be a kid, that would you do?
A
I mean, I would slay out. Because if you could go back in time being a kid, think of all the stuff you would do.
B
Well, let me tell you this. If you were 90 years old right now.
A
Yeah. God.
B
If I go back in time when I was 44 and limber.
A
It's true, huh?
B
That's what you'd do back in time. Theo Vaughn for 20, 25. Oh, my God. I should have taken Jiu Jitsu back then. I could have been a badass in 10 years. If you took Jiu Jitsu right now, by 54, you could be a black belt.
A
You think I could?
B
100%. Yeah. You're an addict. All you have to do is get addicted to Jiu Jitsu. Yeah, that's what happens. A lot of addicts, they get addicted to running. Come marathon runners like my friend John Joseph, he became an Iron man guy. Just started doing Iron Man.
A
What about Goggins? It was he. Did he ever suffered addiction? I don't know.
B
Addiction.
A
Oh, yeah, that's right, huh?
B
Yeah, I think we all have that.
A
What? I get sugar sometimes. I'll.
B
Sugar's a good one.
A
God, I just want something regular.
B
Gatorade. Is that a sugar free Gatorade or a regular?
A
I told him to get. It's sugar free.
B
Zero.
A
I asked him to get sugar free. You want a little bit of it? No.
B
Yeah, I want to hit like. You want a taste of this whiskey?
A
You want a gram of this? Dude, I would get so. I just been getting so dehydrated. First of all, why is dehydration more of a thing now? Dude, when I was growing up, nobody was like, we were talking about that.
B
We just. That's why this is important. If you're going to listen, you got to listen to both podcasts. Listen to that one first because we started talking about dehydration, but then you got that. I think you started talking about zebras or something.
A
I did. Yeah.
B
You went off in a different.
A
You, you went off in a different direction, dude.
B
You started talking about bombs and you have millions.
A
You haven't met you. Dude, I gotta introduce you to you. You're gonna. You're gonna be in or you're gonna be intrigued.
B
I'd be fascinated.
A
But no, I think. What was I saying?
B
Hydration is important, though. But electrolytes. Electrolytes are important.
A
Why is it a big thing now? Like, you remember saying years ago, nobody's like, 10 years ago, it was like, people were like, yes, stay hydrated. But nobody was, like, electric. There wasn't this big crazy thing about it.
B
Well, there was once they figured out Gatorade. So do you. Do you know what the original Gatorade ingredients were? It was like, citrus juice, like, lemon juice, salt, sugar, and water, I believe. Pull up. Pull that up. So this was a criticism that someone was bringing up on one of them Instagram reels. And they were talking about the original Gatorade versus the Gatorade that they have now with all these crazy dyes and the color blue and all these other weird. Like, Gatorade didn't used to be like that. Gatorade was just like a hydration drink. That was pretty good. Pretty good.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, hydration drinks are legit. Electrolytes. That's a legit thing. You know, you really do need. You need sodium, you need magnesium, you need.
A
You need electric trace minerals.
B
Yeah. All that stuff's really good for you. And when you sweat a lot, it helps to replenish it in your body.
A
Do you think. Do you believe in that hydrogen water stuff where it's like, you charge water?
B
Yeah, it's legit.
A
It is, Yeah. I thought you gotta drink it, like.
B
Right after you make it. The original Gatorade, invented in 1965 by UFS. Is that university of Florida?
A
Yeah.
B
Robert Cade consisted of glucose, sodium, potassium, and water. That's it. So sodium, potassium, water, and some sugar. The same formula we use for oral rehydration in cholera. It worked, but it tasted like tiger piss. Then Pepsi bought Gatorade and Michael Jordan sweetened it with high fructose corn syrup. And voila. Michael Jordan brought us into the high fructose corn syrup maze.
A
It was it. Yeah, I remember. He was the best ever.
B
Who's done better with sneakers than that guy?
A
Nobody. Jordans. It became a thing.
B
But I'm saying it became a thing. Like, it's. It's a part of a brand that's a huge brand, and it's bigger than the brand.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
Jordans are bigger than Nikes. Like, if you have Nikes on, that's one thing. If you have Jordans on, like, oh, he's got Jordans on.
A
That's wild, huh?
B
Theophan's wearing Jordans. Look at that.
A
Yeah. I've never been a big shoe guy. Really? I got these jelly roll shoes on. He gave me.
B
Oh, those are tight.
A
These are like, hey, dudes. They're called.
B
Oh, Yeah, I got a pair of.
A
Those, but they're men. They're really men's slippers. And it's some of something about it.
B
You're wearing slippers.
A
It's like, let me.
B
What are you gonna do if you have to fight?
A
Not put these on and go out on the porch. The porch.
B
I can see Theo scrapping on the porch. By the way, I've seen more fist fights online over the last three years than I have in my entire life. Yeah, My entire life of actually seeing street fights. My entire life of being out in comedy clubs and nightclubs and bars and seeing street fights. I've seen more in the last three years than all that combined.
A
Do you feel like we get a. An unrealistic view of reality because of all the stuff that we see online? You do, yeah.
B
But if you don't go and see an actual bar fight, you don't know reality. Like, I remember I was 21 years old. I was in Boston. I went to this bar, and I saw this dude break a Heineken bottle on this dude's face. I don't remember what they were arguing about. The dude did it so quickly, out of nowhere. His first move was break a Heineken bottle on this guy's face and just cut this guy's face wide open. It was. Blood was pouring down his face. I was like. Like, that is crazy. And I was as close to that guy is as I am to Jamie. It was. It was right there at the bar. I watched it all go down. I was like, that's. And it put in my head, like, don't ever talk to somebody at a bar.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, de escalate.
A
Always too many weapons around because, well, just.
B
There's people out there that will just break a bottle over your face, especially if you threaten them. I don't know what that guy said. I don't know what happened. I just saw the act of the guy breaking. I saw. I heard loud arguing and then smash.
A
And did the guy make a sound when he hit him or anything like that?
B
I don't remember. Just. I just remember blood. The blood was instant. It just gushed down his face.
A
Yeah.
B
I mean, this guy got ruined for life. He has a giant scar on his face for the rest of his life, for sure. There's no way. He doesn't. It was just cruch. His whole face, blood. Did you with people, man? Man.
A
Oh, yeah. I'm not with anybody.
B
I know you don't, but I don't. For everybody else listening, don't with people yeah.
A
Especially if you're at a bar, too. Is wet. That. I don't. I don't like to be in places where people are real drunk because. Can get too weird. It makes me. It makes me nervous. I think a hundred percent people do.
B
Stupid things when they're drunk.
A
Yeah.
B
That could ruin the whole rest of their life just being hammered.
A
Imagine how many people have just sobered up and be like, you're lying. I did. That happened. And they don't even have any new memory of it.
B
I was watching this video that I just saw on Instagram the other day of this guy who was a former Muay Thai fighter in Mexico, and he got in a fight with these dudes and just started KO and dudes left and right. He kos like four or five dudes, and one of them died. Because this is one thing that I tell people all the time. Absolutely happens in street fights. You knock a person out, they fall down, they bounce their head off the concrete and they die. And it happens all the time. It happens all the time. And it happened. So in 25 of the people this guy knocked out, one of them died. So 25 of them died. One out of four, he kos all four of them. One dude never wakes up, and now he's charged with murder. Have you seen the video? It's pretty impressive, no?
A
And the guy's just defending himself.
B
Yeah. These guys are coming after him and he just starts flatlining them. Damn black. He's got a good right hand.
A
Did you. Did you see any UFC fight or any fighting when you were in Scotland? What do you do for fun when you were there?
B
No, there was no UFC fights. Have you seen that video, Jamie? I could send it to you if you want.
A
Who's a Scottish fighter? Paul Craig. Is he Scottish?
B
Yeah, he's Scottish. He's a bad. Yeah, he's got one of the greatest triangles in the history of the sport. That guy's triangles off the charts. I know. I sent it to Tommy. Me and Tom Segura sent each other everything up, including. I saw him this morning explosion, which I'm. I also saw that.
A
That.
B
That lady get body slammed. Did you see that one, Jamie? You didn't see that lady get body slammed? I don't know what specific time you're talking about. I've seen some lady punches this guy in the face and the guy body slams her.
A
Was it that pen? It wasn't that Pentecostal deal, was it?
B
No. This one is in. I think it's in Toledo, Ohio, and they're out in the middle of the street, and this lady is yelling at this dude's girlfriend so that I just sent it to Jamie. Me. Bam. Oh, Jesus. That's another one.
A
Ooh.
B
Oh, he picked that woman up and slammed her like that.
A
Wow. That seems first of all weight class. That's a catch weight.
B
Oh, that's so awful. That's so awful. Oh, my God. Damn it. Jesus Christ. That's not the one I'm talking about. The one I'm talking about is. I just sent it to you, Jamie.
A
You got to be careful, man.
B
This one, the lady punches the guy in the face, though. The guy's trying to de escalate. He tries to walk away, and the lady says, get the out of my face. And then she punches him in the face, and then the dude picks her up and just slams her.
A
Oh, my God.
B
And she. Her boyfriend was in the car the whole time. She's calling out to the boyfriend in the car, and the dude does not get out of the car. Like, nope. She's like, you go ahead and give me some volume and go full screen. Watch this. Get out of the door. You want to ride my ass? Get out the door then. Get out. Get out. I didn't touch your car. You dumb.
A
You were on my gun.
B
Come and touch me because my man's right there.
A
Come and put your hand on me. I ain't driving crazy.
B
Your without my goddamn ass. I went to other lane. Get out of my face. See you later. My God.
A
Oh, that's why you got to go to a meeting, dude. I go to a meeting before I do this.
B
Okay, just for the record, that's a.
A
Mazda, I think, huh?
B
No, it looks like a Cadillac. Like a shitty old Cadillac. For the record, that that lady could die. Yeah, like you could die from that. Like, if her head banged off the concrete. I'm not sure if it did, but if it did, with the weight of all of his body and her body like, that is very dangerous.
A
Look how much we heard it from here.
B
Yeah, he was charged with assault and battery by means of dangerous weapon, causing serious bodily injury, vandalizing property, unlicensed operation of a motor vehicle. The man involved was arrested, but he wasn't driving.
A
Yeah, that blows me up, man.
B
This is just what someone posted below that could be. It might not be true. The woman suffered injuries, but was released from the hospital. The thing is, it's like she assaulted him first, right?
A
Oh, yeah. It doesn't. It seemed like they would get that.
B
Figured, but doing that. Oh, he did bang her head for sure.
A
Oh, yeah. Well, you think? Yeah, look at that.
B
That's super dangerous. Super dangerous. Like, yeah, even more dangerous than knocking somebody out.
A
I mean, that's horrible. That's a kind of.
B
You could 100 kill somebody doing that. 100.
A
Well, people want to do dangerous stuff. Did you see there's a woman that just died petting an elephant? Trying to pet an elephant. I think in Thailand. See me, if you don't mind.
B
A guy get trampled by an elephant recently?
A
You did.
B
Oh, it was awful. This elephant seems like this guy ordering it around and just folded this dude up and just squashed him. And you see him trying to get away and it just squashes his head.
A
Like, yo, Spanish woman killed by elephant in Thailand while bathing animal.
B
Oh, by the way, I did that.
A
You did it?
B
I didn't get in the bath them, but my family did. We in Thailand rode the elephants. And I was like, I don't think this is cool. I. They thought, oh, this is so beautiful. This is what happens. You go to this elephant reserve. Like, it's like they rescue these elephants. By the way, the elephants are completely free range, so they're wandering through the jungle. So while you're there, you hear trees branching, branches snapping, and you see elephants is making their way through the jungle to this group. And then they feed them sugar cane. So you feed these elephants sugarcane. So you give them a bunch of sugar cane and then you clean them. So you wash the elephant and you say nice things to it.
A
Yeah.
B
And you develop this little relationship with the elephant. And then you ride the elephant through the jungle. The elephant takes you, and then at. At the end of it, you bathe the elephant, Right. You get the elephant wash them. You're basically being nice to them. They're being nice to you. They're letting you ride them. You give them free food and you give them a little massage. But I made a video about it.
A
I think when does it.
B
I definitely did. I was like, I don't recommend it. Yeah, I was like, it's cool because, like, I was hanging out with this elephant in the video. I'm like, they're really sweet creatures. They're so gentle, but they're so big and they just. They're deciding not to kill you, right? And. And you're riding them, which is like, why do you have to ride them?
A
Why do we have that fact, that infatuation with people that want to take pictures of like, you know, let me pet this newborn cheetah, right? Let me bottle feed this senior citizen Tiger, you know what I'm saying? There's always like, let me breast me bathe this elephant, you know?
B
Well, the tigers are all drugged up too. That was another thing we did in Thailand.
A
You got to be careful, dude.
B
Tigers are drugged up, man. Yeah, yeah, super drugged up. So this is what it is. It's like you couldn't use sanctuaries. What? You can, you certainly can have tigers in Thailand.
A
Oh, Thailand.
B
So you go to this place and they have kit. They have little kittens. So the kittens, the tiger cubs. Yeah, they're different. They're super active. Like they're biting things and playing with each other.
A
And you can touch them and.
B
Yeah, you can touch them.
A
Okay.
B
But then when they get slightly older, you can be in the cage with them. But there has to be a dude with a stick. Do the stick standing between you and this small tiger.
A
Now whose team is he on?
B
Oh, it's so crazy. It's so crazy. It's so crazy.
A
And he's on your team?
B
Yes.
A
Okay.
B
And this is a small tiger. This tiger is like 40 pounds. And then when they get bigger, then they have to drug them. So then when you get into the adult tiger, they're like this, like, so obvious. And people are taking pictures, like sitting next to the tiger. Tigers literally like this, no idea what's going on. They keep them all heroined out of their mind. The tigers don't move and you realize they're drugged up and you get real sad.
A
Yeah, RFK is gonna end that. I'll say that, dude. We're gonna have real active tigers so I can attack.
B
You want a photo with the tiger, you got to risk your life.
A
But that's the thing. It's like, why do we have that infatuation, though, of like, I want to take this with this cobra around my neck. I want to take this. You know, it's a good question. You can't like get these things where you want to pet a tiger. You want to, you know, brush a lion's teeth. You want to tickle a cyst out an Akron or something without getting, you know, and sometimes people, you're going to get attacked, you know what I'm saying? Like, you got to be careful. Yeah, but why? What is that inside of us that makes us want to do that?
B
Cuz it's scary. It's scary to pet a crocodile. So when a guy can like put his hand on the crocodile's face, you're like, whoa. Do you ever see that one where the dude is like, the crocodile Grabs a hold of his arm and goes into a gator roll in front of the crowd. Oh, it's horrible. Rips his arm off from the whole crowd.
A
I haven't seen that. What else was I going to ask you about?
B
What do you think the drones are, Theo?
A
I thought there's just a bunch of. I think it's a skip. What does a psyop mean? I always hear that psychological operation. Okay. I think it's a psyop by somebody. I think it's not, you know. Yeah, it's a couple drones over New Jersey. Whatever. I don't know. It could be. Jimmy John's is gonna have a new delivery thing they're gonna try next year. Who? I wouldn't be surprised at all. I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon's gonna do a new. I wouldn't be shocked at all. It could have been one of those. You know, they have those New Year's Eve displays. Like fireworks displays now are drones instead of fireworks. So they'll have like a thousand drones, and they just make a bunch of. And it's different, Right.
B
I saw that at the Post Malone concert.
A
It could have been 11 pe. 11 drones escaped from a drones in enslavement camp where they're forced to do these shows, and it's going to be a Pixar movie in two years. You know what I'm saying?
B
You're not concerned at all?
A
I'm not concerned, dude. Look, if they're going to come get me, come get me.
B
Come get me. Look at you.
A
What are they doing? Doing? Who? Who are they?
B
Who are they? These?
A
Yeah. They're gonna come. Come get me.
B
Come get me.
A
Yeah. If they want to get me, they know where I am.
B
Yeah.
A
They know, huh?
B
Yeah. Otherwise, leave me alone. Don't make me look at you flying around the sky. But you're.
A
Yeah. What are you doing up there? Come down here and if you want to party. Whoa. Or come down here and party. Come out and have a drink. Come down here and do something. You're a drone in the distance looking at.
B
Do you think we'll ever get to a point where aliens are so comfortable with us they could just come hang out?
A
Dude, I think Earth to Aliens is a dump. Dude, I think Earth to Alien. Because aliens go on vacation every year, right? They're just like us, right? And they take their kids on a trip or whatever. And the kids who are so poor, right? And. And look, we were poor. Mom would take us to the beach when it was freezing cold and wouldn't tell us, you know, whatever, dude. It was like, it seems cold. It's like, whatever.
B
So.
A
Well, and. But the, the aliens that don't care about their kids, whatever they bring them here to, they're like, oh, and the kids like, we have to go to Earth, dude. Our life sucks. You know, like the cool alien kids go to all more neater, you know.
B
Right.
A
Does that make sense to you?
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
That's the kind of thing I'm saying, man. Do you know Scotland actually has some of the most UFO sightings in the whole world?
B
Well, they had one of the best UFO sightings. They took photographs of it. It was in that movie or whatever.
A
What's it called? Bridgebird?
B
Yeah, something like that. James Fox's documentary, the Program. He was just here promoting it and they showed the photo and it's a photo from the 1990s that they got of this thing. There's apparently there was three photos. That's it.
A
Most UFO sightings on the planet.
B
Whoa. 300 per year. Also, let me tell you something. Those folks like to drink. I mean, bro, they drank.
A
Oh yeah.
B
Have a wee drab. Have a weed drab. If someone says have a wee drab, that means it's time to get up. This dude poured me a shot of iron Irish whiskey that was like that thick. I was like, oh, we're gonna go. We're getting ready to go.
A
Did they call you the nicest people?
B
They're the nicest people and they're.
A
I think I'll have a lot of gays over there either. If they have a lot of blue eyed people over there, you know that.
B
You don't think they have a lot of gays?
A
I don't.
B
What do you think they do with them?
A
I mean, they have them. I bet they don't say that they're. That they're. I bet they're secretive.
B
Nah, I don't think.
A
You don't think.
B
I think they're pretty open minded. In fact, I think they have a pretty woke government. I think they have a very woke government.
A
They wear a lot of kilts, that's for sure, dude.
B
There you go. It's close to gay dress.
A
But it's like, what if a kill says free awning on it?
B
If it's a rainbow kill, do they, Sarah, do they sell rainbow kilts? They probably do.
A
It's always raining. What if it just says free awning on it? You're like, oh, that seems like a trap, bro.
B
Yeah, dry your head off down here.
A
But if it says kids awning you gotta be. That's a. Yeah.
B
Free toys. Hey.
A
The top symptoms.
B
Jesus Christ.
A
I'm just saying, dude. The Scottish. We need more of them, dude. And I believe that in the future we'll get more of them, man.
B
You think they're going to breed a lot or do you think we're going to like import people?
A
They've had some explosions of population. I know. Over the past like 50 years. I think like.
B
Oh, really?
A
Yeah, I think so.
B
It's like a million people over there. There's nobody over there.
A
Yeah, but they're getting more.
B
I think the whole country is like 6 million people.
A
Most redheads. Most. Most blue eyed people. Yeah. Y. Most redheads. Per cap. As of 2022, the population of Scotland was 5.4 million.
B
Yeah. Largest population ever recorded by Scotland census. Population grew by 2.7% since the 2011 census, which was slower. Rate of growth in the 4.6 increase between 2001 and 2011.
A
They're smashing. They've been listening to Ed Sheeran, brother. That's what's happening.
B
Get the candles lit.
A
Yeah. They're coming back.
B
Getting lung cancer and said it. It's keep an atmosphere going.
A
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B
I'm interested to see. Elon is a very pushy man. Once he gets an idea in his head, you know, it's very difficult to get him off of it. I'm interested to see if they can do anything. I'm interested to see what the reaction is to it too. Like what kind of resistance is there to them trying to change things by.
A
The actual government elected officials.
B
Yeah, that's going to be interesting too. Like sometimes you find out more by resistance than you do from like we did with like we were talking about in the other podcast The Trudeau thing with the truckers in Canada, when he went after the people that donated money to the truckers, and. And he closed their bank accounts. That's crazy fascism.
A
I didn't know he did that.
B
Yeah, that's crazy, tyrannical overreach. That's. That's, like, really dangerous, authoritarian government tactics. You close the bank accounts of people who donated to a peaceful protest. So sometimes, like, in resistance, you get to see what someone's really about.
A
Yeah.
B
You know, and so I'm interested to see when they already try to kill him.
A
You know, I know. Two times, I think even after that, they're like, we gotta let him keep going.
B
That's the other weird one about the killing them thing, the trying to kill him is. There's all these connections. This is the big tinfoil hat conspiracy thing. They're all connecting them to Fort Bragg. So there's three connections to Fort Bragg. There's this guy who blew himself up, allegedly in the Tesla. There's the dude who tried to kill Trump on the golf course. He had visited Fort Bragg a hundred times. There's one other one. What's the other one?
A
That. The New Orleans guy.
B
The New Orleans guy. Yeah, that's right.
A
Heartbreaking.
B
The New Orleans guy who ran over those people in the street. That guy's from Fort Bragg as well. And so I'm praying for those groups. It's what people are really terrified of is the idea of mind control. And that they train people that are very vulnerable, people that are all up. They train these people to become hitmen and terrorists. And there was an undercover camera thing. I'll send this to you, Jamie, because you see it. You're like, what the. These are real people, where this guy is explaining how they do this, and he's explaining how they take people and push them over the edge.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
People that are maybe, like, a little bit lost, and they give them a nudge to get them to. To do things.
A
Well, it all makes sense. I mean, just like religion can find you or just like.
B
Sure. The government can find you anything.
A
Yeah. Something can find you when you're vulnerable.
B
Well, that's the kid that shot Trump. That's what a lot of people think that is, too. The tinfoil hat conspiracy is that they found this very vulnerable kid. He did a black rock commercial, and then, you know, a year and a half later, whatever it was, he's shooting at Trump off of a roof.
A
Yeah.
B
So listen to this. So CIA agent explains how the government baits and tricks mentally unwell social Media users into committing crimes they wouldn't normally commit. And so it says you set them up, you create the situation to where.
A
They have no choice but to act on their impulse. And once they act on that impulse.
B
Then we call that entrapment.
A
We call it a nudge.
B
A nudge?
A
A nudge. Sometimes you just gotta give them a quick little just to see what happens.
B
Right. How does that happen?
A
You put a post out there or.
B
You have some fake profile, say something that triggers.
A
That we know is going to trigger them. Right. Like, we. We already know your history. If we're to that point, we already know everything about it. So we're like, oh, this will piss them. Sometimes you, like, diffuse and just wait for it to follow. Yeah.
B
Nothing like putting out the fake social.
A
Media thing to, like, really get people mad. Post fake news, sometimes it's not fake. That's crazy.
B
So this is. The guy's name is Gavin O'Blenis and says CIA contracting officer, former FBI San Diego. Like, is that to protect or serve? Like, what is that for? You imagine that government money is being spent to manipulate vulnerable people into doing things they wouldn't ordinarily do. Do. That's crazy.
A
I could totally imagine that. I mean, that's what's scary about always.
B
These chatty gay guys that get busted.
A
Well, this guy, obviously, it seems like was. Was trying to flirt with whoever he's talking to, to me. And I'm not saying the guy always what it is, enjoys buddies or whatever. I'm just saying it seemed like that to me.
B
Yeah, chatty gay guys. That's how they keep busting them. Yeah, they get hot guys on Grindr to go meet up with chatty gay guys.
A
Yeah.
B
I wonder how they set that up. Up. I wonder if you have to have a bunch of verified in order for people to take you. Like, where's your blue check mark?
A
You got to be really gay, buddy.
B
You got to get a pink check mark. Someone's. You all right? This guy's legit.
A
Oh, and you think there's a lot of people being fake gays or whatever to help the government?
B
Oh, yeah, all that James O'Keefe stuff back when he was at Project Veritas, they'd always bust these gay guys.
A
James O'Keefe, the author?
B
No, no, no. The investigative journalist.
A
Oh, I didn't see that.
B
Very controversial investigative journalist that does the. These undercover ops where he finds he gets one of his guys to wear a camera.
A
I'm thinking Robert O'Keefe. I think.
B
I don't Know who you're thinking of. But James O'Keefe was with Project Veritas. Now he's got his own thing. What is it called? The James O'Keefe OMG something. OMG. Right? O'Keefe Media Group. Yeah. And so looking into this guy, he might. That might be a artist. He might have been lying just so he could get laid.
A
You know, that's what I felt like 100%. This guy seems like just what someone.
B
Claimed to look into him and said he didn't work there. He's VA employed. Advanced Medical Support Assistant. Okay. It says this guy's my age. He was checking in patients at the VA when I started as an FBI agent, and that was 10 years older than many in 2022, he was a secretary at the FBI. Be skeptical, people. Geez. So he might be just. But. Well, it seemed like he was. But also he probably does know how they do it. It. Maybe he's not even saying that he does it because he has a low position, but if he's explaining how the FBI does it and he does work.
A
For the FBI, it makes sense. Do you think we can trust our FBI anymore?
B
I think you trust some of them, but the FBI is like people. And people in positions of power, they. They get corrupted. Some do get corrupted. Some are great patriots. It's just like everything else, man.
A
And the CIA, the same thing.
B
I think with every group of people that are in power that don't have a lot of oversight or were the organization, its itself has been corrupted. You know, there's a lot of people that think the FBI back in the day. Not the same people alive today, of course, but they had something to do with Martin Luther King's assassination.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
You know, there's a lot of people that think they had something to do with Malcolm X's assassination and Kennedy. Yeah, there's a lot of theories and I don't know the. The truth. I don't know the truth. But when you look in the January 6 thing and you said that the f. Didn't they admit they had 26 agents there? Is that what they admitted to? James?
A
Me.
B
Because it's the most recent discussion about what actually took place in January 6th. Like how many of those people is talking about this is 2020.
A
I just wonder, 20 agents. What starts to happen if you don't. If as a society you don't believe and trust in. I believe that the. The trust overall in government and government and authority and in America really as a whole is kind of starting to.
B
Dissipate along with the trust in the media.
A
Right.
B
Same time.
A
So then what. So where did. Has that ever happened in history? And then. I'm sure it has. And where do we go from here?
B
Well, I guess never lived in a big question when you say has it ever happened in history? Sure. Things have fallen apart before, but has it ever come back together again? Maybe not. But maybe it didn't have the Internet back then.
A
Right.
B
So what people are looking at, like with Trudeau resigning and Trump winning and. And, you know, all this talk of Robert Kennedy getting in the Make America Healthy Again movement, like that, we might be able to see legitimate change this go around. Like with Vivek and Elon being in charge of government efficiency. We might be able to see. I'm hopeful. I'm really hopeful for the first time in a long time. But I'm curious to see what can actually get done.
A
Who do they have to answer to? Vivek and Elon, who did they have to first present stuff to? Somebody said it was Marjorie Taylor Greene. Is that true? Or somebody made that up in. I met her at a party, actually.
B
Yeah. Did you?
A
I didn't know that it was her. I don't know, like a ton about politics. But it was definitely interesting, though. It was.
B
Sure.
A
Tucker had that party for alp. He has like a new.
B
Yeah, his nicotine pouches, they're good.
A
I haven't done them.
B
They're legit.
A
But, yeah, it seemed cool. Mel Gibson was there. That was pretty cool.
B
So I went without nicotine pouches for five days. See what that was like happen when I tried the eights. When I came back, I got these, Lucy's, these breakers, the eights. I couldn't take it. It was too much. Because five days off, I was like, whoa, this is too much.
A
And what happened? You have to sit down somewhere? Do you just.
B
I gotta take it out of my mouth. Then I switched to these threes. I'm on this athletic nicotine, these threes. So I've been taking these while I do podcasts, but completely killed my desire to just pop them in throughout the day.
A
Yeah.
B
Because I was used to the eights, so I was popping them eights all day long. But then I realized when I wasn't taking out for the five days, I'm like, oh, I'm a lot more calm. Yeah, I'm a lot less ramped up. I'm like, I don't need to be ramped up while I'm on vacation. I don't have to do any podcasts.
A
Yeah. You know, I don't need to be alive as much.
B
I don't. Well, I just mean. I mean, enjoy. Just be chill. Why be alert? Why be so alert?
A
Yeah.
B
Thing is, you get used to being so alert. You want them all the time. One before I lift. Give me an eight before.
A
Oh, I want something all the time, dude.
B
Yeah.
A
I want to sniff. I wish I had that trach hole. I'd just boof right into my neck all day. Yeah, I'll take whatever you got, boy. I heard a buddy the other day saying he. He's. He's sober. Oh, you're in, dude.
B
Oh.
A
Wow. You look like a Jets fan.
B
I'm, like, looking at fireworks right now. My eyes are closed. It's just fireworks.
A
Oh, yeah. Give me something off Katy Perry dust, buddy. Oh, Joey. You want to see me ride it, don't you?
B
As if Katy Perry takes her panties off and that's it.
A
Oh, no. And I shouldn't have said the first part either, because she's amazing.
B
Katy Perry does this? Yes. Be respectful.
A
I am.
B
And let's imagine not a real Katy Perry, but a robot Katy Perry, because that's coming.
A
Yeah, we met Catherine Perry, who grew up.
B
Different gal. She's from Toledo. She's the girl that got body slammed. Take a snap. Oh, you went deep, son. You went so deep, you got that into your hairs. Here, give me that back before you hurt yourself.
A
Come on.
B
You were reluctant to give it back. You were thinking about going again.
A
I'll go again, boy. Huh?
B
Really?
A
Yeah, dude. Okay, I'll do one more little one. I'm gonna do a big one, dog. We ready?
B
When you shake it. Oh, my God. What have you done?
A
Plate of pipes. Joey Rogan. Darja. Aliens Joe.
B
Jesus, son.
A
Oh, that shit'll turn you into a raccoon, baby boy. Dude, you know, the worst thing was.
B
Besides that, your eyes. When you close your eyes, did you see fireworks? Yeah, like, when I closed my eyes, it was like my whole. It was all lit up.
A
It reminds me of that thing. You ever seen that game show? It's sauce challenge or whatever.
B
What?
A
Hot sauce challenge.
B
Oh, yeah, yeah. Hot wings.
A
Hot wings. Right.
B
Ones. Hot ones.
A
Hot ones.
B
Well, have you ever done that?
A
Yeah, I did it a few years ago and it was a great. That guy Sean Evans is a great guy.
B
That's all I hear about him. Oh, everybody says he's a nice guy.
A
He's so smart and he's a neat. He's just a nice dude and. But people are always like, how are the sauces well, seven of them are sauces. A couple of them are you would use to clean this out of a boat. You know, it's like. It's like. Like, sauces went into that weird realm where it was like. Like, we just want to burn a hole in you kind of thing, you know?
B
Yeah.
A
And so some of them got to be very. I don't get sued for saying that. Can I say that? I'm just joking, right?
B
Yeah, you're just joking.
A
But they're like. Some of them were like, oh, this isn't. I wouldn't put this on anything.
B
Right. It's too strong.
A
It's. It's not a sauce. It's just like a chemical. It felt like.
B
Yeah, it's dangerous.
A
Yeah.
B
What about that one chip challenge? You ever try that?
A
I did that. It's fun.
B
It's preposterous.
A
It's nice. Yeah. It's like a Mexican Christmas type of thing. I think it comes out.
B
The chips are stale. And though that's what was terrible, the chips are.
A
It's just a gateway drug for spice or whatever.
B
I feel like it was just a way to reuse shitty old chips that had gone bad. That's what it felt like to me. Like, whoever did is a goddamn genius because that's. I was offended by the fact that the chip was so dry.
A
Yeah.
B
I was like, look, you could do this with a Dorito, and it wouldn't be as offensive. You know, one thing about Doritos, every time you open those, it's the same. I know they're using seed oils and a bunch of chemicals, but guess what? I don't eat Doritos all the time. Time. But I had a bag of Doritos five days ago, and guess what? I enjoyed it. It was Cool Ranch.
A
Oh, they're so good.
B
They were good.
A
I remember when they came out with those people couldn't even. Didn't know what to do.
B
They couldn't stop you.
A
I remember our stepdad came back for like, a week when they came out, and he's like, yeah, everything's gonna be fine.
B
Cool Ranch.
A
They were good.
B
A little bit of queso.
A
Oh, dude, Cool Ranch was good. I remember. I'm trying to think of the early cheese balls. Those were good. Good. Those are good.
B
You can't outlaw that stuff. Just because some people have no self.
A
Control, do you think? Are some people gonna start to be like, oh, this guy's gonna take away chick fil A, like you were saying.
B
Probably. Yeah. Can't. We can't let that Happen.
A
Well, that's. We can't now go against Bobby.
B
Yeah, we have to. We have to fight him. It's the same thing. Remember Jay Leno was selling Doritos. I think that's when Bill Hicks started attacking him.
A
They didn't get along. No, No, I didn't know that. You ever meet Bill Hicks?
B
I never met him. I saw him live twice. Two or three times, I think three times. But I said hi to him. Like, is it like, you know, like that? Like, hey, what's up?
A
Was he, like, famous when you saw him?
B
He was famous for comedians. He was famous. He had been on Rodney Dangerfield's Young Comedian Special, and that was a big deal back then. This is before he even had his big HBO special. He was just this weird guy who was connected to Kinison. And then the first time I saw him live, I was like, holy shit. He was doing things that are so different than any of the other comedy that was popular back then. It was all like, he had something to say about things. It was like cultural. It was like cultural commentary with jokes. But the cultural commentary was as much a part as what he was saying, was the fact that it was fun, funny. That was totally unique. And then it became a thing where everybody was copying him.
A
Oh, really?
B
Yeah.
A
So he was like one of those guys that people just started being like, without even. I think without even realizing it.
B
Yeah, without realizing it and realizing it and just openly plagiarizing him. He was very plagiarized by a bunch of people, but he was just doing something different because his interests were different. He was following his interests. Yeah, you know, that's what he was interested in talking about. So. And he was touring so much that he was working so much that he had so much material because he was just constantly playing in all these places. And unlike a lot of, like, really respected comedians, he didn't do his tours in the big cities. He's, like, touring around the Deep south, you know. He called it his Flying Saucer tour because everywhere he would tour was where flying saucers would be spotted. Like these weird, fucked up cities. And so he developed this, like, really intelligent act that would work on dumb crowds.
A
Crowds, huh?
B
Very unique guy.
A
Like low brow, high art kind of stuff.
B
Well, some of it was low brow, some of it was high brow, some of it was just funny. Great social commentary on the war, you know, he was just great. It was just a different thing. I mean, he wasn't as, like, laugh out loud funny as, like, Richard, Jenny. But I remember me and Richard Jenny watched him once and he said, God, every time I see that guy, I'm like, I gotta do more of that. Oh, yeah, Richard Jenny said that. I saw him saying. And so I'm like, wow. Richard Jenny, to me at that time, was one of the greatest comics alive. He was so good in the 1980s. Like, people don't realize I've told this story before, but just for you, this one time he was at the Eastside Comedy Club. And Eastside Comedy Club was a big comedy club in Long Island. Great club, awesome club. Richie Manavini used to own it. And we were there on Sunday and the dude who was the MC over the weekend was depressed. He was like, richard Jenny did four different hours. And he goes, he didn't repeat a joke once. And every hour he killed, he goes, he did four completely different hours. And no one could do that back then. So for Richard Jenny to tell me that he was watching Bill Hicks, like, I gotta do more of that.
A
Wow.
B
Like, that's how influential he was.
A
Did you see George Carlin perform then, too?
B
Yeah, I saw George perform a bunch of times. I saw George perform at a time where he wasn't doing so good.
A
He was struggling with this drug. Do you think?
B
I don't know, man. I saw him bomb in New New Hampshire. I took my roommates to a casino, saw him play in a casino in New Hampshire. And he ate. It was weird. It was weird. It's like it wasn't worked out. Yeah, it's like he was. He would go on stage with notebooks and he was just kind of like working out ideas. He had a very different way of doing comedy. Like, his way of doing comedy was he would write everything out and then he would bring notebooks on stage and perform it as he wrote it. Like, he didn't do it. Like, almost like doing a one man show. And then every year he would film it for hbo.
A
Damn.
B
Yeah, it was a totally different style of doing comedy. And so he went through periods in time where he was doing real well and he was real funny. And then he went through some dark times where he was bombing a lot. And that's unfortunately the first time I saw him.
A
Have you ever seen Roll Tide Willie? That guy?
B
Who's that? Do you know what that is?
A
I'll put you on him. He's like. I guess he's kind of a comedian now. He was a. He played football for Alabama and then he got injured. He was in the military. See if you can pull up something of him.
B
What does he do? Just Says crazy things.
A
He loves Alabama. He's like a.
B
Like a mascot.
A
Yeah. Yeah, he's like a mascot. He likes alcohol.
B
He looks like he likes alcohol.
A
Yeah. Watching and waiting on the. Buy My game.
B
Look right here on this side. Chilling, chilling. Don't give a piss.
A
Don't give a piss about nothing but the Tide.
B
What you doing?
A
The Tide. Alabama Tide. He likes. Well, that's one of his favorites. Yeah, he's.
B
You got to give people the freedom to not give a. About anything but the Tide. Right? That's one of the. Right. If you're going to have transgenders going into the men's room or the women's room, you're going to have to have that guy, too. You got to. You got to give. You got to be tolerant of that guy.
A
Oh, 100%.
B
How come you're not.
A
Yeah.
B
Why are you so judgmental? Like, that guy have some tolerance.
A
Yeah. He served for our country, too.
B
Did he?
A
Yeah. Yeah. He got injured in the or. I think he got injured. He. He was in the military with my friend's dad, but he. I think he played at University of Alabama, but now he's like. Like the biggest fan, but he's kind of a. Yeah. Mascot for Alabama. He's like the. They call it. They. He goes by Roll Tide Willie. Okay, so just so you know, why.
B
Did you want to bring him up? I don't know. Just came to mind.
A
Yeah, I just think we're just talking about what we're talking about. Oh, comedians, entertainers. I think entertainment's getting interesting because a lot of people are getting entertainers, too, just off of. Off of social media reels. Right, Right. So it's like you're finding somebody you might want to watch, like Jessica McGowan or something. Or.
B
Who's that?
A
The lady from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I'm talking about. Or, you know, Gwyneth Paltrow or watch like a. Or watch Roll Tide. Well, you know what I'm saying? It's just so. It's Entertainment is just super interesting now.
B
Well, it's definitely open to more things. Right. Like, Tim Dillon turned me on to that family in New Jersey that goes to Costco and yells out about cookies.
A
Oh, the booms.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
That's unfortunate. Right?
A
I mean, that's crazy.
B
Billions of people watch that. Like, that's way more than watch cnn.
A
We bring the boom.
B
Yeah.
A
That kid and the one kid, I heard he make good grades, unfortunately, which is like.
B
Well, should he make that Costco Tik Tok money? They better not ban tik tok. Imagine that. Family becomes homeless. Yeah, because some heartless politicians decide to stop that Chinese spyware. How about let those stay on that? Let them steal their passwords. Let them go boom.
A
Dude, I'm on there.
B
You should be.
A
But they're taking all they're taking. But, yeah, I guess, I wonder sometimes, what are the Chinese actually taking that they don't already have? For me. Except, I mean, they could geolocate me your DNA.
B
They're gonna clone you. You're gonna be like Alex Jones. You're gonna have a different version of you.
A
Half my family's in recovery. You can have it, bud. You can have it. Dude.
B
Do you think any of those drones are Chinese?
A
How could we have in our airspace a drone from another country and we don't know it? That's what I all is it that.
B
We don't know it or we can't do anything about it.
A
It. Oh, we could do something about it.
B
Well, you have to decide to do something about it. And the Biden administration doesn't seem like they're the type that would just be shooting out of the sky.
A
That's a good point.
B
Whereas Trump, that will shoot some shit out of the sky. You know, they didn't tell him about some of the balloons that China had circling the country because they were worried he was going to have them shot out of the sky.
A
No way. Yeah.
B
Yeah. They openly admitted that they didn't tell Trump about some of the balloons. Remember when they shot that balloon? Oscar Sky.
A
Yeah.
B
When they shot that balloon out of the sky. We were talking about this the other day. They missed one of those missiles.
A
Missed and went where?
B
Who knows? Oh, I'll tell you.
A
It's like New Year's Eve in San Antonio, dude. Yeah.
B
Imagine if you're hiking. You're out there in the wilderness. Like, this is amazing. I've got my jet boil. I'm gonna cook. I'm gonna cook up some ramen tonight.
A
Yeah. Thomas. Boom.
B
Right in the face. Right in the face. A missile that was meant for a Chinese balloon.
A
And they're never going to admit to that. They'll say it was.
B
Yeah, you vanished.
A
Y.
B
There's nothing to even test.
A
You'll be on one of those 411 documentaries or something.
B
You get hit in the face with a missile, there is nothing left.
A
That's on you, too.
B
There's nothing left. They don't even know you were there. You just. You got ate by wolves. Who knows what happened to you?
A
Baby girl is gone.
B
You're gone. There's nothing. You're pink mist. They're going to scrape you off the leaves. Do a DNA test. Yeah, dude, you get in with a missile out of a fighter jet, it.
A
Would be an enough. There'll be barely enough for a wolf to lick a little bit of you off a rock.
B
Okay, let's imagine that Beirut bomb, okay? That Beirut bomb, what do you do?
A
You see it falling? What do you do?
B
You don't do anything. You don't do a thing. You just go, oh, no. And then you vaporize. You prepare yourself for the next dimension.
A
How long do you get if. Save it.
B
You don't get any time at all.
A
Come on.
B
It just happens so fast. If you're in the epicenter of one of those bombs and it just goes off, you don't have any time.
A
Just.
B
Just boom. Vaporize. The whole city's vaporized.
A
What if you're 2, 000 yards off?
B
You might live. Who knows? You might be behind a building, and the building might stay up, and you just get your eardrums blown out, and you get the kind of concussion that you usually get from a horrible car accident.
A
Who knows, dude?
B
I would imagine there's like, a level where you could be far enough away where it's not death, like instant death death. But where's that level? Where is it? It's not close. Close. You're dead for sure. So, like, how far out do you have to be where you. Now you're deaf for the rest of your life? Now you can't see? You know, who knows? Now you have no memory of your childhood. It's a. Like a concussion of epic proportions. Even if you survive, depending upon how far out you are. And then, you know, you get far out enough that it doesn't affect you at all. You could see it from a distance. That's got to be crazy, too, to know that you could have just been over there and you have been vaporized. You hear about the dude that survived Hiroshima and then he went to Nagasaki to work, and then he def. He survived Nagasaki.
A
N. He survived both of them.
B
He just survived both of them.
A
Still alive?
B
Still alive. I think he died recently, but this dude, he went from. Yeah, I think he died a while ago, now that I'm thinking about it. This dude went. He was in Hiroshima. Bomb blew up, killed you know how many people. 150,000 people instantaneously.
A
Obviously.
B
He escapes, gets out, goes to Nagasaki to work. Nagasaki gets hit less than two miles from the blast zones of both. Jeez.
A
And did he Say how he survived each time. What was the guy's name?
B
I can't pronounce the first name. I'll show you.
A
Give him some credit.
B
Give Theo a shot at it. What's his name?
A
There someone. Samo Sutom Yamaguchi.
B
Yeah. Tatsumu Yamaguchi was quite a few fires named Yamaguchi. Two files less than two miles from the blast zones of Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings and miraculously survived both without debilitating injuries. My double radiation exposure is now an official government record. Yamaguchi said, I can tell you the younger generation the horrifying history of the atomic bombings even before I die.
A
Do you think we should have done that? Joe? That bomb.
B
Wow. He lived. He died of stomach cancer at 93.
A
Oh my God.
B
That's incredible. He lived that long.
A
Yeah.
B
Stomach cancer. One of us. Because of the bomb. I mean, he died 93, but some.
A
Asians live very long who get 120 years out of it.
B
Do I think we should have dropped the bomb on people? No.
A
Yeah, me neither.
B
No. It's insane. It's so insane.
A
But it just goes to show you that somewhere inside of us there's an evil that will be evil. Evil. You know?
B
Bro. Look at this. No. Go. Go up. Go up. Go up. He opposed the country's role in World War II and became so despondent about the war that he considered killing his wife and infant son with sleeping pills if Japan lost. Holy dude.
A
Company man.
B
Jesus Christ. That's so scary.
A
It's heartbreaking.
B
So the sky was lit with a blaze. The lightning of a huge magnesium flare. They saw the plane coming. Oh my God. He saw the Enola Gay fly over Hiroshima and drop an item carried by two parachutes suddenly. He said the sky lit with a blaze. Oh my God.
A
Do you have a bomb shelter?
B
Joe?
A
Do you have a bomb? Do you have a bomb shelter?
B
1. I should probably get one. But I really think that if a. If a nuclear war breaks out, you really want to be like. Right where the new kids.
A
You want to end. You don't want to be mid.
B
You don't want to live in a zombie apocalypse. Like post war. I think I fainted for a while above. Oh. The. The ground roared and an ear shattering noise ripped through the air, tossing Yamaguchi into the air as a fireball imploded overhead. He was dropped face first into a muddy furrow. The protective measures he took likely saved his life. A woman who had been walking beside him shortly before the blast disappeared altogether. Wow. I think I fainted for a While when I opened my eyes, everything was dark. I couldn't see much. It was like the start of a film at the cinema before the picture has begun, when the blank frames are just flashing up without any sound.
A
Unreal.
B
Dude, look at it looked like.
A
Can you even fathom? One second it looks one way and the next second looks another way.
B
And no one's ever done this before that we know of on earth. And then they just decided to drop it on a city. Jesus. And they did it again. Boom. Boom. Seen in the Oppenheimer. When they're deciding where to do it. If that's how it went down is crazy. Nuts.
A
I gotta watch that.
B
That movie's crazy.
A
Is it?
B
It's crazy. Yeah. Because you. You get to see, first of all, that dude, Cillian Murphy. That guy's incredible. He's incredible.
A
Yeah.
B
That's the dude from the Peaky Blinders.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
He's so good. He's such a good actor. And so he, like, nailed this tortured genius Oppenheimer and this creation that he made.
A
It'd be so scary. Something you thought was probably for a purpose in the beginning, and then you changed your mind or anything.
B
Well, also, you have to do it, because if you don't do it, if the Germans get it, they're gonna kill everybody. Still wounded and heavily banished, Yamaguchi returned to work on August 9, the day Nagasaki was bombed. He was providing his supervisor a detailed account of the Hiroshima bombing when the landscape outside the office suddenly lit up with in a blinding light and Yamaguchi fell to the floor as shock waves destroyed the windows. Suddenly, the same white light filled the room, he later recalled. I thought the mushroom cloud had followed me from Hiroshima.
A
Wow, that's crazy talking about it.
B
It happens again. That's crazy.
A
A reinforced stairwell in the office protected the conference room where Yamaguchi and his colleagues were.
B
Jesus Christ.
A
They just heard his story, and he said it says someone took cover in a manner similar to how he described in Hiroshima.
B
His wife was soaked in black rain and was poisoned, as their daughter later recalled. In the subsequent weeks, Yamaguchi suffered high fever, severe hair loss, continuous vomiting, and other symptoms from radiation poisoning.
A
Dude, how much would have to happen in America for things to get to a place where people are just like. Like every man for himself? Like, do you feel like that?
B
Like that kind of thing, Power going out? Yeah. What keeps us together is electricity right now. The way society is structured, we are so dependent upon electricity that without electricity, we don't have anything. We don't have Any cooling? We have no ice. We have no way of processing water. We're without electricity. We have no transportation. We're. We're really without electricity. Electricity, without oil, without any fuel at all. We're doomed. We're doomed. And all we have is burning things.
A
And do you think for the first day people would be kind of organized, like, let's see what happens here. Watching the news. And then the second day would get awol, like, how quick would people.
B
As soon as people ran out of food. And that doesn't take long. That's a few days. It's a few days. And then everyone's like, well, I'm gonna get a rifle, learn how to hunt. Good luck.
A
Not at the last minute. What are you gonna put an ad at the last minute? Sorry it's so late, guys. Need to learn how to hunt or whatever.
B
Now, by the way, if everybody goes hunting, here's the dirty secret about hunting. The reason why hunting works is because everybody doesn't hunt. If everybody hunted, there'd be no more animals. They almost did that in the 1800s, man. They started doing what they call market hunting. And market hunting almost wiped out everything in this country. Almost wiped out all the elves, Wiped out most of the buffalo. Almost wiped out white tailed deer.
A
Really?
B
Yeah, man. Because people were hunting them.
A
They could hunt as much as they wanted.
B
As much as they wanted. There was no regulation and they were selling the meat and there was no refrigeration. So you have to kill them all the time.
A
Oh.
B
So they would hire professional hunters and that's how they would get their meat. And they were just devastating populations of animals. I mean, you've seen the piles of buffalo bones, right? Terrifying. They killed millions of buffalo in a few years. They brought the herds down to nothing in a few years, got that close to total extinction.
A
And was that because people were like expanding west and they needed food.
B
They needed food. They needed the skins. They wanted the tongues. Pickled tongues was a big delicacy on the east coast. So shoot them for their tongue only, which is crazy. So you're taking one of the biggest animals that lives in North America and you're slaughtering it just for the smallest organization, organ or the smallest thing. Their tongue. Yeah. So people did that already. And if there's no power, there's not enough food. There's just not. Yeah, we don't have enough Wild game for 330 million people for a year. Forget about forever.
A
We don't, huh?
B
We don't. We definitely don't. We definitely 100 don't. And the only reason why you can have these giant populations of people like Los Angeles, the only way you can have that is farmers.
A
Right?
B
You have to have farmers. You have to have people that are fully dedicated 24 hours a day to growing animals and food all the time to supply those people.
A
Amen.
B
So if you looked at the amount of farmers versus the amount of people that they feed, it's crazy.
A
Oh, it's a great point. How exponential it probably is, huh?
B
Crazy. So if all that's gone, then all those people have no food, and then where are they getting it? Are they going to be willing to, like, how are they going to, to learn how to herd cattle and the.
A
Farmers are going to be sitting there licking their chops.
B
Well, they're going to be killed, most likely.
A
Oh, people are going to try to get them for their food.
B
Yeah.
A
But their farmers will be ready for a while.
B
You know, how long can you hold off millions of people with guns? United States has more guns than most of the world. We have 40% of the firearms on Earth.
A
Yeah, we. Then they can do it for a while, I guess.
B
See, if that's the typical statistic is true. I believe it is. I think the American people have an exponential number in comparison to every other country. We're, we're, we have so much more weapons than any other country, and I think we have more guns than the entire Chinese army. By a large. No way.
A
Really?
B
Yeah, by a large amount. Just the American population has more guns.
A
It's so embedded in our culture. Because I'll meet people sometimes and like, you guys have all these guns. Like, what do you. There's no way to not, not have guns here.
B
Well, there's more guns than there are people here.
A
But how would you even do it if some people were like, you should get rid of gun. Right. Because you hear people say that sometimes.
B
It'S like, well, you're not going to get rid of guns altogether. You're not going to eliminate the technology. Right. So the technology, if it exists, someone's going to have the guns. Who's going to have those guns? Well, you're going to have. The government's going to have the guns. So you're basically giving the guns to people that are known liars who've been manipulating and controlling people from the beginning of time. You can't have that. And the reason why the United States has such a unique freedom is because the first amendment is protected by the Second Amendment. Yeah, didn't Chris Rock have a bit about that? I Believe he did.
A
I'm not sure if he.
B
I believe Chris Rock had a bit.
A
He probably did.
B
I think he did.
A
One last question before we go, Joe.
B
What's up, Jamie? 35 to 50% of the guns. Somewhere in the range of 270 million.
A
Out of the 645 million in total guns in America.
B
Close to 42%. That's big. Estimates. 42% of the guns in the world. Right here, baby. His dog's over there snoring. You know why? Cuz he could see if he could sleep well.
A
Yeah.
B
There's hard men out there with pistols protecting that little dog. Dogs used to be. They used to protect us. Carl ain't protecting nobody. Carl's Carl bites me full blast every day.
A
Really? He loves that. He loves to meet a man with his face. Face.
B
He doesn't hurt you.
A
He doesn't?
B
No. He's adorable.
A
Yeah.
B
But you know what I'm saying? Like, we need to protect Carl. He can't protect us. That's how soft people have gotten.
A
We gotta listen to or.
B
They're snoring. Hear him?
A
Yeah. He sounds like Lee Sayad a little.
B
When Lee gets too many edibles. They're back. The church of what's Happening now is back.
A
Just saw the first episode.
B
Isn't that amazing?
A
It's so cool.
B
I was telling Joey for a while I orchestrated getting the two of them together at the Mothership. Like, got to get you guys together. I was putting it in his ear. I'm like, joey, you guys got to bring the band back. Wanna. We're gonna. We're gonna. Joey and. And Lee in New in California, when they had that show, it was in this weird little office building.
A
So bizarre. You'd park out there, you'd be lucky to find a spot. It had a really 80s vibe out there. They had like one kind of neon kind of light that was kind of like. They'd have their door for their office, like, open a little bit. And it didn't seem like it was an office. It seemed like it was. It was a place where they shot like kind of quick porn over.
B
Did you ever see the one episode where they had an office building at one point in time with a bunch of other people that had office buildings? And Joey was too loud and they were yelling at him to be quiet. He's like, shut the up.
A
No, it was amazing. We used to share them all with a nail salon for a while.
B
Really?
A
Yeah. And they'd always be chattering in there and yelling about stuff. It was fun.
B
Oh, that's okay.
A
Some of that was fun, dude. I remember we used to share a wall with Fighter and the kid for a while, and that was so much fun. We'd bang on the wall at each other.
B
You guys had, like. There was a bunch of podcasts that were being done in, like, a couple areas like that in California where they had little podcast studio places where several sets would be.
A
It was so much fun.
B
But those guys had always ran into some money problem. There was always, like, some producer that was taking too much money and they wanted control of the show. And I ran into so many dudes that had podcast deals that went south, and it was, again, the same kind of thing. Power and corruption.
A
Yeah.
B
There's so many guys who had podcast deals, and then they. The. The people that they did this, that had this network wound up owning their podcast and selling their podcast, and they're like, what the. They just got robbed?
A
Yeah, we got robbed. I mean, we got stolen from.
B
You got literally robbed.
A
Yeah, but we didn't. We still had ownership, you know.
B
Yeah, but they stole your ad revenue, right?
A
Yeah, for a year.
B
Yeah, man. There was a lot of dirty business in the podcast world.
A
It was dark.
B
Well, it's the wild west, right? It was a completely new thing. And all of a su. Sudden, when the money spigot opened, it just opened. Like, whoo. Like, I made no money for, like, five years. I just did it for funsies. And then all of a sudden, the spigot just opened.
A
Yeah. You're Spigot. Yeah. Really? You have the most open spigot right now.
B
I have the most open space.
A
Congratulations.
B
Thank you.
A
You work harder than any podcaster by far, man. And you're so great at it, man.
B
Well, you got to keep your foot on the gas, son. That's the thing about podcasts or anything else. When you've got. You're essentially. Actually. You're running a business. Right. What is the business? The business is interesting content. All right. How much are you actually interested in interesting content? Because if you're not, it's not going to work. So you got to be fully interested, which I am. That's where I'm lucky. I'm lucky that I'm interested in all these things.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
Pay attention to this. Even if I wasn't talking about it, I'd be watching podcasts on this kind of. Because I'm interested. I'm interested in ancient civilizations. I'm interested in cultures.
A
Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, we learn a lot of stuff by listening to you learn it, man. So it's cool. You know, I have one question. I know you. One time we were talking about if you ever retired, right?
B
Yeah.
A
And you said maybe you would start painting. Maybe if you ever retired.
B
Did I say that? I was probably high.
A
It could have been okay. Even if you were, I was probably.
B
Taking some of that Delta 8. What's it called? The stuff they have out here. Even Delta 8, it's legal. It's a legal loophole. Legal weed? Yeah. I'm all up on Delta 8, son.
A
You had a. Delta 8. You had a. You had a. Oh, there's a bunch.
B
Of Delta 8 out here.
A
But are you still using it?
B
It's legit.
A
Oh, yeah, sure it is.
B
And it's. It is.
A
It's at a gas station.
B
Like boner pills, they were. Dr. Red Band, one of those makes.
A
Your nose bleed really bad. Red Band stuff, Those. Those aggressive rhinos, whatever those ones are, they make your nose bleed.
B
Oh, Red Band's a connoisseur. He'll tell you what the good ones are.
A
Oh, I've been. I went down the road. I used to get them from India. I used to get all that. India, yeah.
B
Jeez.
A
But what would you paint? Dude, that's what I was thinking. I was just.
B
I was lying. I was lying. You were?
A
Yeah.
B
I had to be. I'm not interested in Peyton.
A
Come on, man.
B
No, man. If I.
A
If I was gonna retire, dude, you.
B
Know, if I was gonna retire, I would just bow hunt and play pool. That's what I would do. If I said I'd want to do anything for money from now on, I would bow hunt and play pool. I try to play pool for money, but I'll never win any money. I could never beat the best guys.
A
If you think you could have devoted so much as much time, because that's one thing you start to learn about life. It's like, I only have so much time. Right. If you could have devoted as much time you think. Do you think you could have been really good at it? Because I know you really loved it.
B
Pool was a. If pool you really legitimate sport when I was in my 20s, 100%, I would have become a professional pool player. 100%. I wanted to play pool all the time because it was a. A population of misfits. That's what it was. It wasn't just the game itself. It was the misfits. It was. I always felt like a misfit. When I was a kid, I felt like a misfit, you know, Moved around a lot. My parents Broke up when I was young. You know, it's like I never felt like I fit in anywhere until I started hanging around the pool. I was like, oh, these guys are just like me. They're all people that they're just too add to ever keep a real job. Yeah, they're just nutty people. And they all had, like, different things that they did for money. But what they were really obsessed with was that game was playing pool and going to pool halls, because you'd go to pool halls, and it was a bunch of guys like you. Just a bunch of weirdos who were just wanted to laugh and have fun and play this game.
A
Yeah, yeah, maybe. Yeah, that. Maybe that would be nice. And painting.
B
The problem with painting is, you know, I look, I love art. If I was called to paint, like, if it felt like something, maybe I would get into doing it, but. But that's not what I'm interested in right now, you know? Yeah, maybe I would be, but I don't think so. You know, I think. I think if I retire, I'm just going to pursue interests. I'm just going to, like, learn languages and just do something different.
A
Yeah.
B
I don't think when I stop doing this, I'm ever going to do anything else publicly. I probably won't. I won't want them anymore. I'll get to a point where I think a lot of people get to where they're just like, n. I'm on. Off this ride.
A
Do you ever wear a disguise when you go places? Like, if you.
B
Every day. I'm wearing a disguise right now. I got, like, like, tall Biden. Remember when they had the fake Biden?
A
Was that real, though? Is that a tall guy?
B
Tall guy. Get a tall guy. Pretended to be B. 100% wasn't Biden. The CIA has had, like, super sophisticated outfits. Look, have you seen Adam Ray when he. When he dresses up like Dr. Phil?
A
Yeah, sometimes you forget pretty good.
B
He. He did. We did Biden, bro. I mean, and this is, like, easy two hours of makeup. They're not even trying to make him look real. He looks real. He looks.
A
It's crazy. This is him, like, 20 minutes in his car to put.
B
Yeah, all you need is a dude with similar face structure to Biden and you can make him Biden 100. And I think they definitely did that. I think there was a point. America, America, we're protecting you. Theo von we can't have China think that our president is down and that Kamala Harris is running the military. Come on, son. We know what we're doing. Pull up the photo. What about the video of the tall Biden? Because ain't no way it's the same dude because he wasn't even a little taller.
A
Bring that honky up.
B
You know what I'm saying? It wasn't.
A
It wasn't like that. It wasn't president.
B
It wasn't like, you know, it was like Bobby Lee next to Rich. Sorry. Yeah, I was like, something's different. Not the same guy. Yeah, he's so much taller. He was like 6 inches taller. Like, not a little taller. And they're like, we got nobody. No, we got nobody. Look at the size of this.
A
I'll get. That's not real.
B
That's real. Look at this size. Look at the size of his legs.
A
Is that Will Ferrell?
B
Bro, that guy's a basketball player. They got some. Look at the difference in size. So that's the real Biden.
A
And Trump really met him.
B
And that's the real Obama, right? Real Obama, Real Biden. Now go me, give me, give me fake Biden again. No, no, no. Fake one. The giant. No, no, no, no, no. The giant one when he's walking around. This one, this video.
A
Who is that, bro?
B
Look at how much taller he is than Jill. He's never that much taller than Jill. Jill's wearing heels, son. Look at her heels. See her heels elevated in the back. She's wearing heels. He's towering over her. That's a giant Biden. That's Sasquatch.
A
Wow, that's really, really interesting.
B
Do people have done like a comparison to his height compared to like, what he normally is? Tall Biden was a real thing.
A
Oh, do you think what happens to him after he goes away in office? What happens to him?
B
Jimmy Carter, he votes like this. You think he can't wait to vote for Pete Buttigieg? They roll him out there.
A
Who controls Joe Biden if he's not controlling himself?
B
Whoever is letting him pardon 8 million people?
A
Some of the guys said they don't want the pardon. You see that, bro?
B
He's pardoned more people than anybody ever by a long shot. He's got all Tiger King, too.
A
Somebody said, oh, he better pardon Tiger. I think he did, didn't he just. Did he. Somebody said he just pardoned him.
B
Did he? That can't be real. I saw that. The, the. It's a little over inflated because of all the marijuana charges that got added in because they, for Tiger King threw all those people. No. And Joe Biden's pardon.
A
Oh, I want to see that. Mad.
B
Yeah, but he's slurper. Yeah. That's a good thing that he's doing that. But it's still. He's still pardoned more people than anybody ever, bro.
A
When Tiger King gets back out here. Wait, America.
B
He'll be a guest on this podcast with the knee brace pistol on his.
A
Hip with that whip.
B
Yeah, I try to, Jamie.
A
For sure he's gonna his slurp on.
B
Somebody lobbies for presidential pardon. Jamie, what are the odds this guy tries to you if we bring him in the studio. No way. It's 100. Not that he's going to you. No way would he. Yeah. On his list. Yeah. All the people in the building. Yeah. You're the guy. There's a couple other people. No, no, no, no, no.
A
We'll hold him back by the hips.
B
We'll have ground moves on you.
A
We'll have side control on him, but.
B
He moves on you. You're not nice guy, you know?
A
Yeah.
B
Maybe that's what it is. The mustache. He's trying. He's trying, but they're not going to let him out. And they probably. Maybe they should. I don't know.
A
I don't know. I wonder if he got out. I just wonder where. What kind of job he would get into. They're not going to let him work offshore or whatever.
B
Stuffed animals. Sell his own stuffed animals. Yeah. Open his own. Build a bear, build a tiger.
A
You know, he's just in there helping you stuff it.
B
Yeah, you stuff it. And then the little recording thing. When you have a little thing in there. There where you press the button and it gives a little recording. When my kids. I used to have one for one of my daughters where she'd squeeze it, said, daddy loves you.
A
Oh, that's.
B
It was adorable. That's what he. He's going to do. He's going to do that for people.
A
Same thing. I want to suck your cop. Daddy loves you. I want to suck your cock. Hey. Hey. What you doing with all that?
B
I think this is. It's got to be.
A
Take me to the river.
B
I'm looking around. Around. Just Twitter and he tweeted that yesterday.
A
No, he didn't.
B
Look at that. Please repost comment and tag anyone if you can show support right now more than ever.
A
Why am I in the back? Is that really true?
B
That's a real photo. You don't forget it happened, you know? You don't remember that podcast that was right after you did Bertie Sanders. That guy came in. What is it like for you? Can I ask you this you're, like, interviewing legitimate people now. Like, you interviewed Trust Trump. You interviewed Bernie Sanders. You interviewed. Who else? J.D. walsh. Who else you interview. You've interviewed a lot of, like, very interesting people. Are you enjoying that?
A
Yeah, I think I am, man. I think it's been. I've been trying to learn more, you know, so that's been one of my goals.
B
You're doing a great job because, I mean, you get silly. You're still yourself, you know, you're still silly, but you're having, like, real conversations with these people.
A
Thanks.
B
You know, Bob Canada.
A
Yeah, for sure. I mean, I knew Bobby, which was lucky, and we were going through Vermont, and Bernie said he would come on the podcast, so that was super fortunate. And then Dana helped. You know, I wanted to talk to Trump because his brother had died of alcoholism, and it was like, a world that I had, like, spent a lot of my life, like, you know, in and dealing with. And so I wanted to, like, just see what he. Like if he was normal about something like that. I guess so. Yeah. But I think it's been interesting. I think it felt like a lot of responsive. I got. I. I started to have some ego issues. I think I was just trying to be like, you know, just know what you're doing, man. Like, you don't have some big responsibility. I think I had this ego trap where it maybe felt I just had to kind of manage some stuff for a little bit, but I've been feeling better now. I think, like, what.
B
What was the trap?
A
I think you just start to think, oh, well, I'm important, right? And it's okay if I am, like. Like, it's okay if I have importance to myself and. And there's things that I want to, like, examine and learn for myself and. And that sort of thing.
B
But your role as an important person, right, you started thinking about that because you're getting a lot of views, right?
A
I think it started to just scare me. So I just. I got nervous, and then I had people that would ask me about stuff that I felt like I didn't know about, or people would think that I knew more than I did, or, like, I had something to do with, like, the election. Like, things like that made me super kind of nervous.
B
Got it.
A
And so I think I just was kind of trying to manage that for a bit, and. But I've been feeling, like, better about it. And I know some places are things to be funny, some places are things that mean something to me. Just, like, learning about health care and people getting screwed like, there are some, like, smaller causes. I can't learn about everything, but there's some things that I do care about that I can, like, like seek more information about, you know?
B
Right.
A
And then to just try to get more interested in things, like just be, you know, learn about, Want to open myself up to learn about more things, you know, so that's the key is.
B
Like, knowing when to just listen, when to, when to try to be funny. Just around. Learn how to be yourself.
A
Yeah.
B
The more you do them, the more relaxed you get when you do them, you know?
A
Yeah, that happens, too. I mean, this is probably the most relaxed I felt like being around you today, you know.
B
Around me?
A
Yeah. I think I, I, I, I just like. Yeah. Sometimes that you get nervous.
B
Do you get nervous just because so many people are listening? Is that what it is, is the numbers?
A
Yeah, I think at first, and then I think, yeah. I mean, I look up to you, I think, and so I, or, you know, and you're, you know, you're the champ. You're the best. And so it's like, I don't know if it's a nerd. I don't know what it is, but there's sometimes I feel some thing, you know.
B
Well, thank you, but you don't need to, you don't need to feel that. Like, you and I have been friends for a long time. You could be yourself.
A
Yeah. You remind me of that, and I appreciate it, you know, because it does, it does help. I think it's just like an old thing of, like, it's like an old energy thing that doesn't make any sense anymore, you know?
B
Yeah.
A
But sometimes, like, that template is still there a little bit.
B
Right, Right. Well, that's a Hollywood template. Right. Like, the people that are more established and bigger, it's like, oh, there's Johnny Carson.
A
Yeah.
B
You know, there's that, you know, gets.
A
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You always, anytime I think that way, you always bring it back down to a super normal place. So. Thank you.
B
But it should be super normal. That's really the appeal of all this that we do, is that it is super normal. Is that a guy like, you can have no pretense and just ask Bernie Sanders questions like, why the are they getting away with this? Like, why, why is it structured this way while these corporations stealing all this money and everybody out, all these, you know, why was. Why is this happening?
A
Yeah.
B
And those are, it's. If you can have those real conversations, this is the only place where they exist, then you're never Going to get these kind of conversations on a late night talk show. You don't. You're not going to get them. They don't have these kind of. That. There's. It's not possible. You. You can't go into depth about things. There's no way you can go for hours and hours just talking to people. You can't do it.
A
Yeah. Yeah, man. And I think it's interesting. It's like, you know, there's still things that I want to do in my life personally, and there's like, talking with people has helped me a ton. You know, like, even just confidence from being like, you know, from getting to talk with different UFC fighters and things over the years. Like, there's a lot of, like, people that I've gotten to speak to or people I've heard on your shows and other shows, shows that inspire me, like, in little moments of my life, you know, like, it's important, you know? Yeah. So I. I don't know. I definitely. I mean, I feel like, you know, I just want to, you know, try my best, keep learning, I don't know. And just have a good time, too.
B
Well, you seem like you're having a good time.
A
Yeah.
B
And you're doing a great job. You really are. And you're getting really good at it. Like, the more you do it, the better you get at it. You can really tell there's a lot of good people podcasting now. It's an awesome time.
A
You and Tim Dillons did that episode, the last one you guys did.
B
He's the best. He's. He's the absolute best at the rant.
A
Nobody else.
B
No champ like him. He's the number one. He's the Michael Jordan of the rant.
A
Yeah. Even seeing Shane. Seeing Shane for literally, my mom texted me last night. She's like, I. That Shane Gillis, he just makes some of the best faces right away. And so even earlier, we go back to. You're like, I got Shane Gillis back here. I thought you were. It was like a new beverage or something he had made. And I go back and there's a sauna back there by your church.
B
You never saw the gym before? I can't believe you never saw the gym. It's pretty dope, right?
A
Yeah, the gym's great, but I didn't think he had a Shane Gillis on tap. So we fucking go in there and there's a meat closet where you're dry and aged beef.
B
I actually do have one of those.
A
Yeah, of course. And the fucking. There's a fucking full body strap of Shane Gillis hanging in that bitch. And he just puts his head up near the glass. And that moment, it alone, like, oh, that was the best.
B
Does it make you want to move here?
A
Yeah, it definitely helps, man. I'm gonna start. I'm starting to look cuz I'm not having. I got to get a family soon.
B
Too, dude, you know, get yourself a nice Texas girl.
A
I know. I am. I'm. I am. I'm motivated.
B
Ladies, let's put that energy out there. Get Theo a nice Texas girl. I know they're out here. There's a ton of them out here. This is the greatest place in the world to be a single guy like you.
A
Is it?
B
Yeah.
A
It seems very diverse here too.
B
Like, people are friendly. They're genuinely friendly. And they're not friendly because they want something from you. Like la. They're not friendly because you're famous and friendly because they want to get famous too. They're just friendly. Oh, yeah, they're fun, nice people living their life.
A
They're fun.
B
Boy, Theovon, I love you to death.
A
I love you, man.
B
Thanks for everything. This is the end of part two.
A
There it is. That's both of them. Jamie. Thanks so much, dude. Nice to meet your dog for the second time.
B
Powerful Carl. Look at him over there. Powerful. Is he awake yet? He's waiting.
A
He wakes up. When?
B
He wakes up right around now he's like, probably about time me to get up, start terrorizing people again.
A
Like china.
B
All right, bye, everybody. Now I'm just on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone oh but when I reach that ground I'll share this piece of my life out I can feel it in my bones but it's gonna take.
Podcast Summary: This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von – Episode E554 featuring Joe Rogan
Release Date: January 11, 2025
In episode E554 of "This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von," host Theo Von sits down with the influential Joe Rogan to delve into a wide array of topics, ranging from personal anecdotes and travel experiences to deep discussions on human nature, technology, and societal issues. The episode is seamlessly divided into engaging segments that provide listeners with insightful conversations complemented by Theo's characteristic humor.
Timestamp: [01:50] – [03:00]
Theo and Joe reminisce about a lively evening in Las Vegas following a UFC event. They describe how their friends, including pro pool players Jeremy Jones and Carl Boyce, indulged in excessive drinking and lighthearted antics.
Theo Von:
"One of them kept yelling hole one over and over again. So I... Yeah, I knew that they were hole in one. Yeah. I mean, they were just getting pretty cooked up."
[02:27]
This anecdote sets a relaxed and humorous tone for the episode, showcasing the camaraderie between the two hosts.
Timestamp: [02:47] – [04:00]
Joe shares his recent travels to Scotland, highlighting its breathtaking landscapes and low population density. The conversation shifts to ancient stone monuments, comparing Scotland's stone circles to the enigmatic Georgia Guidestones in the United States.
Joe Rogan:
"I think that it's like, it's one of the most beautiful places, but it's, like, very lightly populated."
[03:06]
Timestamp: [04:00] – [07:00]
The discussion delves deeper into the mysteries surrounding ancient structures. They compare the well-known Stonehenge to the lesser-known Georgia Guidestones, pondering their origins and purposes.
Joe Rogan:
"Stonehenge is by Smurfs... it was just like a rest area... People didn't give a shit."
[04:18]
Theo Von:
"June... object to the. I don't think it said please don't touch. It was like just something more vague than that."
[05:34]
They explore theories about who built these monuments and their intended messages, emphasizing the aura of mystery that still surrounds them.
Timestamp: [07:00] – [10:00]
Theo and Joe engage in a profound conversation about the inherent violent tendencies and corrupt behaviors in humanity. Referencing Steven Pinker's research, they discuss how, despite common perceptions, modern times are among the safest periods in human history.
Joe Rogan:
"People always want to think that violence and crime is more now than ever before, but the reality is when you look at the course of human history, it's... there's never been a more safe time to be alive than right now."
[08:12]
They analyze historical figures like King Henry VIII to illustrate how unchecked power has historically led to extreme acts of violence, contrasting it with today's more regulated society.
Timestamp: [14:00] – [18:00]
The hosts transition to discussing recent changes in Facebook's content moderation policies. They debate the balance between free speech and the need to regulate misinformation, touching upon the inherent biases in fact-checking mechanisms.
Theo Von:
"Mark Zuckerberg said third party moderators were too politically biased and it was time to get back to our roots around free expression."
[14:05]
Joe Rogan:
"The problem with fact checkers is there's been a lot of fact checkers that were just wrong and it's very ideologically based."
[14:16]
Timestamp: [15:10] – [18:12]
The conversation evolves into the role of Artificial Intelligence in shaping public narratives. Theo expresses concerns about AI's ability to outpace human intelligence in communication, potentially allowing those who control AI to dominate societal discourse.
Joe Rogan:
"He who controls the AI controls the narrative of the whole country."
[17:49]
They speculate on the implications of AI surpassing human capabilities, including the potential for manipulation and loss of individual agency.
Timestamp: [19:00] – [21:00]
Theo and Joe delve into the topic of advanced drone technology, particularly focusing on China's advancements. They discuss the potential threats posed by stealth and payload-capable drones to national security.
Joe Rogan:
"China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years. But this activity recently has picked up. They are the most dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed."
[19:16]
The discussion highlights concerns over surveillance, potential weaponization, and the strategic advantages such technologies confer.
Timestamp: [25:00] – [30:00]
The hosts share their experiences with electric vehicles, specifically the Tesla Cybertruck. They discuss the practical challenges of charging, including limited infrastructure and the inconvenience faced during long trips.
Theo Von:
"This one place had a charger. It was like an IGA."
[25:23]
Joe Rogan:
"I had a couple of chargers but had to promise a lady I was not gonna get her chicken."
[28:24]
Their banter underscores the current limitations of electric vehicle infrastructure and the need for more widespread and user-friendly charging solutions.
Timestamp: [36:45] – [38:26]
Theo and Joe reflect on the concepts of good and evil, relating them to personal battles and societal challenges. Joe shares insights from his experiences with addiction, highlighting the constant internal struggle against destructive behaviors.
Joe Rogan:
"I believe that as long as we're just human beings, we're going to have those things. We'll have less and less of them, but we have way less now."
[37:24]
They explore the idea of individual moral battles and the collective societal efforts needed to combat inherent negative tendencies.
Timestamp: [30:10] – [32:10]
The conversation shifts to health-related topics, where they discuss the dangers of scented candles and the risky behavior of huffing one's own farts. They highlight emerging research linking these practices to serious health issues like lung cancer.
Joe Rogan:
"They're not good for you. Because prolonged periods of time... you're breathing in funky chemicals."
[31:08]
Timestamp: [83:18] – [84:45]
Theo and Joe delve into the legacy of legendary comedians like Bill Hicks and George Carlin. They discuss how these figures revolutionized comedy with their sharp social commentary and influenced the modern comedic landscape.
Joe Rogan:
"Bill Hicks was very influential. He was just doing something different because his interests were different."
[83:23]
This segment pays homage to the pioneers of stand-up comedy, emphasizing the blend of humor and critical thinking they brought to the stage.
Timestamp: [58:21] – [66:00]
The hosts entertain discussions about UFO sightings, particularly in Scotland, and delve into conspiracy theories involving government mind control and manipulation. They express skepticism and fascination with the unknown aspects of extraterrestrial phenomena.
Theo Von:
"Do you think Earth to Aliens is a dump... They take their kids on a trip or whatever."
[58:21]
Joe Rogan:
"The most terrifying thing is the idea of mind control. That they train people that are very vulnerable..."
[67:25]
Timestamp: [71:05] – [78:00]
Theo and Joe express growing distrust in government institutions like the FBI and CIA, citing historical events and contemporary issues as evidence of systemic corruption and overreach.
Joe Rogan:
"I think the trust overall in government and authority in America is kind of starting to dissipate along with the trust in the media."
[71:32]
They discuss how diminished trust can lead to societal fragmentation and the erosion of democratic principles.
Timestamp: [116:46] – [118:56]
As the episode nears its end, Theo and Joe reflect on personal growth, the importance of authentic conversations, and their aspirations for the future. They emphasize the value of staying true to oneself amidst external pressures and evolving societal norms.
Theo Von:
"Sometimes that you get nervous, you always bring it back to a super normal place. So thank you."
[115:34]
Joe Rogan:
"The more you do podcasts or anything else, the better you get at it. You're truly having a great time."
[116:48]
Throughout the episode, Theo Von and Joe Rogan navigate a tapestry of topics with a blend of humor, introspection, and critical analysis. Their candid discussions offer listeners a comprehensive look into both personal experiences and broader societal issues, making for an engaging and thought-provoking listen.