#569 - Andrew Schulz

Summary

Podcast Summary: This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von – Episode E569 with Andrew Schulz

Release Date: March 19, 2025

In this engaging episode of "This Past Weekend with Theo Von," host Theo Von sits down with comedian and podcaster Andrew Schulz. The conversation traverses a wide array of topics, from the intricacies of filming a stand-up special to personal reflections on parenthood and cultural observations. Below is a detailed summary of their discussion, highlighting key points, insights, and notable quotes from the episode.

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1. Introduction and Congratulations

Theo warmly welcomes Andrew Schulz back to the podcast, expressing admiration for his latest Netflix special, Life Life. He congratulates Andrew on the birth of his child, setting a personal and appreciative tone for the conversation.

• Theo Von [00:17]: "Today's guest is Mr. Andrew Schulz. Good to see you, man."
• Andrew Schulz [01:33]: "Good to see you too."

2. Andrew Schulz's Netflix Special: Life Life

Theo delves into Andrew's new Netflix special, commending his stage presence and control during performances. They discuss the challenges of filming stand-up comedy, emphasizing the balance between visual aesthetics and audio quality.

• Theo Von [02:03]: "The way you have this control on stage is something. It's great."
• Andrew Schulz [02:30]: "Filming standup is so tricky... making it look beautiful might make the audio sound bad."

3. Challenges of Filming Stand-Up Specials

Andrew shares insights into the technical aspects of recording his special, highlighting the complexities of coordinating different production departments. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining the audience's experience over purely aesthetic choices.

• Andrew Schulz [03:18]: "If the audience enjoys it the most."
• Theo Von [04:08]: "Huge venue. It's beautiful."

4. Podcasting and Navigating Criticism

The conversation shifts to the dynamics of podcasting, especially regarding political content. Andrew reflects on the challenges of hosting diverse viewpoints without alienating listeners, advocating for genuine curiosity and honest dialogue.

• Andrew Schulz [08:08]: "The best way to... is not by having people on your show because the casuals don't watch your show."
• Theo Von [10:12]: "I might not even be able to communicate that well..."

5. The American Spirit of Risk-Taking

Theo and Andrew discuss the cultural inclination towards risk-taking in America, drawing parallels to historical figures and modern-day entrepreneurs. They admire individuals who pursue their passions despite uncertainties.

• Andrew Schulz [08:13]: "I think people admire those who take risks."
• Theo Von [08:30]: "Like Christopher Columbus... where you head?"

6. Personal Life and Parenthood

A significant portion of the episode is devoted to Andrew's experiences as a new parent. He candidly shares the emotional journey of fatherhood, the impact on his life, and the influence of his own father's struggles with dementia.

• Andrew Schulz [50:12]: "It's every cliché you've ever heard..."
• Theo Von [55:59]: "He did the intro to your special."

7. Coping with Family Challenges

Andrew opens up about his father's battle with dementia, discussing the emotional toll and the efforts to preserve meaningful moments. He emphasizes the importance of communication and cherishing shared memories.

• Andrew Schulz [53:34]: "I hope he knows that he was incredible."
• Theo Von [55:55]: "That may seem..."

8. Cultural Observations and Social Issues

The duo engages in a lively discussion about cultural perceptions, historical narratives, and the complexities of modern societal issues. They touch upon topics like the portrayal of historical figures, media influence, and the evolving nature of cultural identity.

• Andrew Schulz [27:26]: "How many necklaces we gonna wear..."
• Theo Von [89:28]: "Double ceilings or something."

9. Entrepreneurship and Business Insights

Andrew shares his thoughts on entrepreneurship, referencing successful business models like Canes and discussing the challenges of maintaining authenticity while scaling operations. They explore the balance between personal involvement and business growth.

• Andrew Schulz [95:33]: "If you don't give me dirt, I would never think..."
• Theo Von [84:12]: "He still owns all of the Canes..."

10. Light-Hearted Banter and Closing Remarks

The episode concludes with playful exchanges about past jobs, humorously reminiscing about their early careers. Theo expresses interest in having Andrew on his podcast in the future, highlighting the camaraderie and mutual respect between the two comedians.

• Theo Von [135:45]: "Congratulations, dude. This jacket..."
• Andrew Schulz [135:54]: "Thank you, man."

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Notable Themes and Insights

• Authenticity in Performance: Both hosts emphasize the importance of staying true to oneself, whether on stage or in personal interactions.

• Navigating Fame and Criticism: Andrew discusses the delicate balance of maintaining personal relationships and authenticity amidst growing fame and public scrutiny.

• Cultural and Historical Awareness: The conversation underscores the significance of understanding and respecting historical narratives while adapting to modern societal changes.

• Parenthood as a Transformative Experience: Andrew's reflections highlight how becoming a parent reshapes one's priorities, relationships, and outlook on life.

Conclusion

This episode of "This Past Weekend with Theo Von" offers a profound and multifaceted conversation between Theo Von and Andrew Schulz. From the technical challenges of producing a stand-up special to the deeply personal experiences of fatherhood, the dialogue provides listeners with a blend of humor, insight, and heartfelt reflections. Andrew's candidness and Theo's thoughtful inquiries make for an engaging listen, bridging the realms of comedy, personal growth, and cultural commentary.

For those who haven't tuned in, this summary encapsulates the essence of the episode, offering a glimpse into the rich and varied discussions that define this dynamic duo.

Transcript

[Theo Vaughn]

I'm ready for my life to change.

[Andrew Schultz]

ABC Sundays. American Idol is all new. Give it your all.

[Theo Vaughn]

Good luck.

[Andrew Schultz]

Come out with a golden ticket.

[Theo Vaughn]

Let's hear it. This is immense world.

[Andrew Schultz]

I've never seen anything like it. And a new chapter begins.

[Theo Vaughn]

You're going to Hollywood.

[Andrew Schultz]

Carrie Underwood joins Lionel Richie, Luke Bryant and Ryan Seacrest on American Idol News.

[Theo Vaughn]

Sundays, 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream on Hulu. I have some tour dates to tell you about. We'll be coming to College Station, Texas, Belton, Texas, Oxford, Mississippi, Tuscaloosa, Alabama, Chicago and Miami. All tickets at the Ovon.com T O U R Make sure to not go to any secondhand site. Just go through the [e-mail] T O U R Today's guest is a stand up comedian. He's a podcaster. He has a new special called Life Life on Netflix. It is miraculously done. I'm very thankful to have him return to the podcast. Today's guest is Mr. Andrew Schultz. Good to see you, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Good to see you too.

[Theo Vaughn]

Congratulations on the child.

[Andrew Schultz]

Thank you, bro. Appreciate that. Congratulations on all your success.

[Theo Vaughn]

Thanks, man. Yeah, I appreciate it, dude. I saw. I'm like 17 minutes into your special right now.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, cool, cool, cool.

[Theo Vaughn]

So, dude, the control you have on stage is that. That's something I really admire. Like this, like, it's almost like a sharpshooter up there. Kind of like there's something. I don't know, but you're. The way you have this control on stage is something. It's great.

[Andrew Schultz]

Thank you, man. I apprec that, brother.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, it's cool, man. How many times you guys shoot? Twice.

[Andrew Schultz]

We did four shows. Yeah. Two a night.

[Theo Vaughn]

That venue so beautiful. It shot so well. Who shot it?

[Andrew Schultz]

Thank you. So I have my guys do it like shifty, shifty edited. I'm messing. I forget the guys. Who's the dp? And then Troy Miller was the director. And. Yeah, it's tricky, like filming. Filming standup is so tricky. Especially when you do these. You know, we're used to just kind of doing it all ourselves. So then you go do a special.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And you kind of realize that, like each department is fighting against one another. Like the video department wants to make it look beautiful, but making it look beautiful might make the audio sound bad. The audio department wants to make it sound beautiful. What makes it sound beautiful might mean your mic is really low in the room. So now the show could be shitty for the audience. You know what I mean? So there's like all these, like, we had speakers. I don't know if you notice, like, in the front, like, usually a lot of times.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, I saw you once. You had your foot up on it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. And, like, most people don't do that because the shot is more beautiful if you just have, like, raw stage. But I was like, I think that the special will be better if. If the audience enjoys it the most.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what I mean? Like that.

[Theo Vaughn]

So I agree with that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Because if they have fun, you have fun.

[Andrew Schultz]

Exactly. I was. There was. There was one. There was one. I think it was, like, show one, and there was, like, miscommunication or something. The camera guy was a really sweet guy, but, like, he thought it was his job to just keep walking down the aisle and back up the aisle with the camera. And I'm like, bro, they got to believe that this is kind of just happening. And when you walk in front of them with a camera, the illusion kind of falls apart. Right. They feel like they're part of a filming instead of, like, just part of this show. So, yeah, that's the trick. I wish I didn't even have to tell them we were filming.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what I mean? Like, Right.

[Theo Vaughn]

Just make it be a regular show.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is just a show. So if you guys yell out or do something, this is as natural as.

[Theo Vaughn]

It could possibly wonder if you could have. Probably could have done that in hindsight.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. I mean, earlier ones, I was able to do that, but I think this one. I don't know, this one, maybe. I was, like, nervous. I was like, I really want to make sure that we could, you know, fill that place four times and, you know, I. I don't know.

[Theo Vaughn]

Huge venue. It's beautiful. What is that?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, it's the Beacon in New York.

[Theo Vaughn]

Wow.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, it's pretty.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. Dude, this looks. I mean, I thought I was like, this is unbelievable looking.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, thanks, man.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, you guys crushed it. Even the font that they chose for Andrew Schultz Life, I thought was perfect. There was just a lot of great choices, I thought.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. The. The first. The Netflix special, the, you know, the first thing that comes up on the black screen. That's actually my wife's handwriting.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, really?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Yeah. She wasn't aware that that's what it was, but it was. Because I don't know how far you are in the special yet, but most of it is this, like, journey of us trying to get pregnant.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. Yeah. That's where I'm at to, like, let me think. Oh, after you saw the baby. But it's. You haven't gone through the journey about getting pregnant. It's just the actual seeing the child, I guess.

[Andrew Schultz]

The C section story. Yeah, that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Dude, it's incredible. Congrats.

[Andrew Schultz]

Thanks, man. Thank you.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. Good to see you, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Good to see you, man. Unbelievable, bro. Unbelievable.

[Theo Vaughn]

Freaking been a while, dude. You've been caught up in some beef. You were in the rat beef. I was like, this, dude, I thought you're gonna pop out of Super Bowl.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, I was supposed to go to the Super Bowl. I was supposed to be part of the show.

[Theo Vaughn]

I was like, how wild is this gonna get?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I know. We were gonna go, actually. How about. You were there, right?

[Theo Vaughn]

No, I didn't go, man. I was. Me and David Spade started making that movie, and so we were.

[Andrew Schultz]

How's that going?

[Theo Vaughn]

It's interesting, man. Yeah, it done.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do you, like, do. Because I remember, like, years ago, when we were doing the pod, there was a. You know, hopefully you don't feel bad about me, Sharon, but you had some frustration with, like, not being able to create these projects. Do you remember us having these conversations where you, like, you really wanted to make a TV show and didn't feel like those doors were open? And now, oh, you're making this movie. You know, you're on top of the world. It must feel pretty cool.

[Theo Vaughn]

Well, I think we just did it ourselves. Nobody wanted to make it. We took it out. We took it to the streamers, and we.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, you created your own movie?

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

You filmed it before? Even before.

[Theo Vaughn]

No, no, no. We pitched it first.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right. So we pitched it and nobody.

[Andrew Schultz]

No way.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, dude. We couldn't get. And it was Spade. You know, I'm like, even with you.

[Andrew Schultz]

And Spade at this point in your career, there was still hesitation.

[Theo Vaughn]

I just felt like it would have been nice to feel some support there, you know? Like, it just would have been like, hey, look, just. Even as a good faith thing, we'll do that. You know something?

[Andrew Schultz]

Also, you probably got ptsd, too, from, like, years of wanting to do these things and not really feeling.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's true.

[Andrew Schultz]

And then, like, now you're at this point where on top of the world, you're like, all right, now everybody's gonna give opportunity. And then to still feel that. Oh, that sucks.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. But then I realized it's just how it is. Just life. Yeah. I think I didn't feel like I. I don't know if I felt on top. I felt like this was a brave thing we're trying to do.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

It was A new thing I was learning. But I felt like with Spade, it kind of was going to be okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Because kind of no brainer, right?

[Theo Vaughn]

He knows what he's doing.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's the other thing is like giving us money to make a movie. Like, we're kind of knuckleheads.

[Theo Vaughn]

It's kind of a bad idea.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, it is. Like. Like to us, it's a great idea. We're like, we'll figure it out. And they're like, have you done this before? And I'm like, nah, but it's just. It's a movie, right? It can't be that hard, right? But a guy like Spade, he's done it before, you know, he'll fucking know.

[Theo Vaughn]

Exactly. He'll have the camera in his trunk of his car all figured out. So. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why do we have that attitude? Like, we, we want to make a movie and it costs $30 million and we're like, these fucking assholes. How dare they not give us $30 million even though we've proven we could do nothing. What is that about? That's kind of on us a little bit.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, totally.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's a narcissism. Is it ego?

[Theo Vaughn]

Well, I think. I would never think give me dirt. I would net like, if they even try to do something like that, I'd be like, this is insane. But I think what I realized in it was I. I just want to do something. If I can do it by myself, whether it's win or lose, it's like, yes, I'd rather make it something small. And then. And even if some like, was like, let, hey, come do it with us or some studio, I don't want to do that. It's like, I just want to do something that. It's like, okay, will people like this?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Will they believe that I tried my best? Like, even if it's not that good, it's like, that's okay. I can just tell people that go to see it in advance, hey, I'm not going to be that great in it, but it'll be a cool movie.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

You know, like, I just don't want to lie to. It's just like, as long as there's this transparency, then I think it's fine.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think people admire those that take risks. I think that's almost like an American thing in general. We like risk takers. We like people who are brave. And I wonder if it's baked in our DNA a little bit. Like our family members that left their families around the world to never see them again for like, maybe an opportunity here.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, I think that we're probably. We have like, the DNA of the biggest risk takers on the planet.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. Like Christopher Columbus, you'd like, what about his sister or whatever.

[Andrew Schultz]

Boring bitch.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, she just got left and fucking wherever.

[Andrew Schultz]

Probably lived a way better life. She's not learning Native American. She's just chilling.

[Theo Vaughn]

She's out of here, lying to Indians, fucking for lunch.

[Andrew Schultz]

Just shows up. What do you mean there's no gold? Yeah, but, dude.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. Imagine taking off in a boat. You people are like, where you head? You're like, I don't know, you're trying to be cool, right? Because it's like your last day on the docks or whatever. You're like, I don't know. We'll figure it out when we get out there.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, you got to be selling the dream, though. You're like, no, no, trust me.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's true.

[Andrew Schultz]

Trust me. It's crazy. Oh, yeah. They got everything.

[Theo Vaughn]

Women, they eat out there. I heard they could get a couple miles out there. There's just a lot of women out there.

[Andrew Schultz]

They got them on the way.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't even have to make it the whole way. They got stops. Yeah, it is. So anyway, so I think. I think like, naturally, you know, you get a lot of success. There are going to be people that enjoy seeing you fail or whatever it is. But unfortunately, I guess human beings, we got that in us a little bit. But I do also think, feel like the people that ride for you appreciate the risk that you'd be taking.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, I do think all of us, as comedians, I think they do. I think that's one of the reasons why comedians or in podcasts and maybe does well is because. Well, for one, I think we try to. This sounds egomaniacal. I have no idea.

[Andrew Schultz]

Say it. Say it.

[Theo Vaughn]

But no, I heard somebody say that. Like a lot of podcasters, they're just trying to figure out the truth. They just. They're not like, we don't work for anybody. So it's like, you know, if you ask somebody a question, it's just because you want to know. Usually it's not because, like, there's a producer saying, let's, let's get this answer.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, curiosity is kind of punished in a way, but maybe it's because they'll put us on such a pedestal. They're like, you should know the answer to these things. It's like, well, I don't. And that's why this guy's here, because I'm trying to figure out the answer to it. And I just want to know their take, right?

[Theo Vaughn]

I might not even be able to communicate that well a rebuttal or grill them that well. But I just want to.

[Andrew Schultz]

I want to grill them, right? I want to know what they think, and then I'll bring somebody else who thinks something different and I'll ask them that. And. But yeah, that is. I guess maybe some criticism is like, well, why did you ask. Why didn't you ask this question? Or why didn't you rebuke, Rebuke that? And it's like, bro, I don't know. I don't know anything just yet.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, I'm not a doctor, I'm not a politician. Like, I got in this own trap of. Just because of last year, we got to have some political people on the podcast. And I was like, then, dude, there was like a. Like a month ago, I started thinking like, oh, I'm a political guy, right? For like.

[Andrew Schultz]

Did you feel like you had to be informed? Were you, like, reading Wall Street Journal?

[Theo Vaughn]

I just, like, I thought, like, because here was the crazy thing, people started coming up to me.

[Andrew Schultz]

Political guy.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, dude. Well, people would come up to me and ask me about political.

[Andrew Schultz]

I was like, like, asking your take. Yeah, I was like, I don't know.

[Theo Vaughn]

I don't know, dude. Like, you know, or like, so. But then I started realizing, wow, people' perceptions are affected, like, how they see people, where they see them at and stuff. And then I was like, well, I do have some political thoughts. Like, most of them are just kind of regular people's kind of thoughts and ideas. Like, they're not super in depth. But yeah, I think for like a week, I started smoking my own nuts and thinking I was like J. Edgar.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hoover or somebody, you know, I actually think that, like, whatever your perception of your feelings are about something that's actually more valuable than what the, like, factual truth is. Oh, yeah, because most people aren't reading up on the factual truth.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, you got to meet people where they are emotionally.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's a good point. And people are trusting their gut. So I think, yeah, when. When you do just talk to somebody and you don't let the people let people decide. Well, do I. Do I think I believe that guy? Do I? You know, and then they get to decide.

[Andrew Schultz]

And you might hate what that person says, but don't dismiss him because there might be a lot of people that feel that same way.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what I mean? Like, there's a lot of people. Like, I've heard people say this A lot. They go. They go, you know, the economy actually wasn't that bad, you know, under Biden or whatever it is. And it's like, bro, you can't tell somebody who feels the economy is bad that it's not bad.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's a good point.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right? Like, they. If they feel like the eggs are expensive, that's what they feel. It's like, I would say this, like, if I get into an argument with my wife, like, I do something to piss her off, and, like, she doesn't want me to explain to her why she shouldn't be upset, right? Like, that never works, right? Like, I know you're upset, but you shouldn't be because of these reasons.

[Theo Vaughn]

You.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, she just wants me to be. Hey, my bad. I'm sorry I made you feel that way. And I feel like our whole political discourse, and I don't know anything about politics, but I feel like the whole political discourse is just like, you're wrong because. And then the other side going, you're wrong because. And then it's just shows set up to dunk on one another. Like, there's no good faith conversation. And the second we're out here having, like, a good faith conversation, like, we bring somebody on and we're just like, all right, so what do you feel about the world? People go to us like, you, how dare you not dunk on that guy? Like, how dare you not humiliate him on your podcast So I can feel good at home. It's crazy, right?

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you can't win. Like, we had, like, Candace Owens and Hassan Piker. They're like, different sides of the aisle.

[Andrew Schultz]

Last week you had, like, Rogan had Ian Carroll, and you had Candace on, like, I think the same day.

[Theo Vaughn]

It was a tough, tough week for Israel.

[Andrew Schultz]

Stayed inside, dudes went to the tunnels. They're like, everybody into the tunnels.

[Theo Vaughn]

Put the mattresses back in, son. We gotta figure. We gotta regroup. But, dude, I didn't. I thought, well, somebody from the left and somebody from the right, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

But I didn't.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, bro.

[Theo Vaughn]

I started going, yeah, I had no. I was just like, okay, let's. Let's hear some different thoughts and different opinions.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's the other thing I realized. Like, I think it was after the last special, right? I was like, okay, you know what? I'm gonna kind of chill. Like, I want to spend time with my family, my friends. Like, I. I, like, I'm not gonna go out and do as many, like, pods and stuff like that. You know, I got a Lot of work that I'm doing at home. And. And I don't know what that, Like, I'm not saying I'm famous, but I don't know what the, like, it is to be famous. Like, I never wanted to be famous. Like, I knew that that might have been, like, a byproduct of having success in comedy, but it wasn't. Like, I never, like, studied being famous. Like, I didn't give a about, like, how to be a famous person. Does that make sense?

[Theo Vaughn]

Like, well, I mean, well, who knew that podcasts would have such would be. And clips of podcasts would get out.

[Andrew Schultz]

So would be huge. Right?

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

So, like, I remember I was like, okay, I'm not. I'm just gonna chill. I'm like, I'm not gonna be doing as many pods, etc. And that's the thing that I realized. Like, having different voices on your pod doesn't really do anything for your. For the people's perception of you that aren't your fans.

[Theo Vaughn]

Wait, say it one more time so I hear.

[Andrew Schultz]

So, like, so we pro. I don't put words in your mouth, but, like, we probably think, like, I'm gonna have different voices on my podcast. And, like, one, I'm curious and I want to know what they think. But two, I. I want to also, like, let the people out there in the world know. Like, I care about hearing from different people.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And I care about having diversity of thought on my podcast. Right. The people that don't know you, the casuals, are just judging you by the worst thing you've ever had on your podcast and the worst thing you've ever said. Yeah, I didn't realize this until recently. The. The best way to, like, thwart those perceptions of you is not by having people on your show because the casuals don't watch your show. It's by going to your biggest critics show and sitting down with them. Or not even your biggest critic, but, like, going to somebody who, like, might have a very different, like, worldview than you. And then you guys sit down and realize, oh, shit, we actually don't have that different a worldview.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

That was all a perception anyway. I think a lot of times we go, okay, we're really busy. It's, like, hard for us to go around and do different shows and that kind of stuff, because I think our perception is. Is not going, like, how can I be the most famous person? Like, I don't give a fuck. I want to make the coolest stand up that I possibly can. I want to hang out with my friends, and I want to talk some on podcasts. Like, that's enough for me.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I've realized the importance now of going to other people's homes and having those conversations, you know, like, we had Hassan on our pod. It probably would have been more beneficial for me to also go on his stream and talk to him and let him bring up shit that I said and, like, tell me. And have him tell me, like, why I'm missing this, like, nuance point and be like, oh, that's interesting. Like, that might actually be better for the people that barely understand me or.

[Theo Vaughn]

Don'T know what you're saying, to have.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, a more holistic view of me and, like, understand who I am.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right. To actually go into their world a little bit more.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Because then you find things about me that might not come up on the pot.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like you start asking me things about. Like how I feel about, you know, I don't know, whatever it is. I don't know if it's like, Marxism or some like that. And I go, oh, yeah, maybe that actually. That kind of sounds good on paper.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

It'd be nice if there was a little bit more equality for people and people who had nothing had the ability to come up. That'd be pretty cool. Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

A little light Marxism. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Just light n. You know, I mean, hey, you can't. You gotta cut it with something you got. You need majority capitalism, you know, it's like a cappuccino. You know what I mean? You can't have. We're not taking espresso shots of Marxism. You know what I mean?

[Theo Vaughn]

It's just.

[Andrew Schultz]

We like capitalism.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. Just a latte. Just. Yeah. Half calf. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Damn, dude. Yeah. I don't know. It's all. It's definitely been mainstream media just got so, like. I don't know, the whole thing has been bizarre, man. Being a part of podcasting, you know, all the strange little connections that are out there. I mean, like you were saying, Gavin Newsom just started a podcast where he's having people who kind of disagree with him when he had Charlie Kirk on.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think it's a really smart thing.

[Theo Vaughn]

Which is pretty wild, you know, it's.

[Andrew Schultz]

A really smart thing.

[Theo Vaughn]

We're talking about that at the beginning. And Dove, your producer, said that, well, he felt like this was kind of Newsome's last hope, too. It's like. Because he was probably. He's probably on the way out, so unless he could do something to salvage.

[Andrew Schultz]

That one Hundred percent.

[Theo Vaughn]

But having a podcast and it's having people you don't agree with hang out with you for a while is. It's pretty.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's also like, that's exact word I was. It's like, brave. You want to show bravery. And I think, like, not to be political or whatever, but I think in the last. And again, I don't care about politics, but like, culture is interesting to me. But I think in the last, you know, election with the podcast run, and I just want to say, personally, I don't think that we changed the election at all.

[Theo Vaughn]

I agree 100%.

[Andrew Schultz]

I have no ego about that. That was decided way before us.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, it made me. Made people feel more comfortable voicing how they were already going to vote. But I don't think people are watching. Like, I'm completely flipped on this.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, that's insane. Also.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but. But yeah, I think that the. The lack of representation of Kamala and even like her constituents on the podcast run, I think it showed a lack of bravery. Like, the feeling was like, oh, they're scared to go have potentially tough conversations. It wasn't even going to be tough with us.

[Theo Vaughn]

I know.

[Andrew Schultz]

What are we going to grill her on?

[Theo Vaughn]

I couldn't even think of a thing. I mean, I heard that she roller skated a lot and I would be curious about that, but it's like, other than that, it's like, I don't know what I would have talked about, but.

[Andrew Schultz]

Her people are going, we can't go on field. I mean, he's just going to come with the hard hitting questions.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right? Like, something like that is insane.

[Andrew Schultz]

But we don't. You don't you appreciate that? Like, as much as Gavin Newsom just seems like a plastic bag in the wind, I'm also like, I'm brave. You're willing to sit down on something recorded.

[Theo Vaughn]

I wouldn't talk to Charlie Kirkus.

[Andrew Schultz]

That motherfucker is a good argument. Candace, too. Candace, I always say that's Rogan said Candace is John Wick. Do not get in her fucking way.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, she. Yeah, she's definitely. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

When you said her kid looked like Anthony Smith, I was like. I was like, you a crazy motherfucker right here, bro.

[Theo Vaughn]

That daughter and look a beautiful kid.

[Andrew Schultz]

You just stop it beautiful. That's what you do. You stop it. Beautiful. Because you do not want Candace to get fixated, okay? You do not want her to get fixated. The second she comes up with a Theo video. You got to hope something happens in Israel, Palestine. Shift the attention Bro, that was layered because you made a German as well.

[Theo Vaughn]

I brought that in. I can't believe that happened. Thank you, dude. I did not believe that was gonna come up. I just started with Gaza, and then I was like, I. This won't be funny.

[Andrew Schultz]

I hope people get how layered that is.

[Theo Vaughn]

That. That was teamwork, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know about that, really. 101 right there.

[Theo Vaughn]

I said that her daughter looks a.

[Andrew Schultz]

Little bit, like, beautiful.

[Theo Vaughn]

She. Oh, the daughter is beautiful.

[Andrew Schultz]

So I think what we got to say is that Anthony Smith is a beautiful little girl.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think that's the better way of describing. He's a savage fighter.

[Theo Vaughn]

He's the fisty Charlemagne, baby. That's what I think is all.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, he does look mixed a little bit. Is he mixed?

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, Anthony. Yeah, he is.

[Andrew Schultz]

Mixed What?

[Theo Vaughn]

I don't know. I think he's a lot. You know, he's latte or whatever they call it. He is. But Anthony's incredible. And that little. And that. The daughter looks beautiful. I know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, she's beautiful. But shout out to Candace. It's so funny how, like.

[Theo Vaughn]

And shout out to Charlemagne, too. I just made. I made a joke one time about him. I said he had. He was handsome.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, he's handsome. Yeah, he loved that one.

[Theo Vaughn]

And I don't remember what happened with it, but I just thought it was.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think he brought it up. He's like, there's a deal.

[Theo Vaughn]

He is. He doesn't age, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, dude. No, he's killing it. It. He's killed it. Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

I would like to get to meet. I've never. I don't know if I've ever met.

[Andrew Schultz]

I gotta connect you guys, man. Yeah. You guys would have a great talk.

[Theo Vaughn]

I bet we probably would. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I saw that. They just had. Who did they have on there that I love?

[Andrew Schultz]

Who on Breakfast Club?

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. I can't remember.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, the Candace Baldoni stuff, I don't know if you were following that at all.

[Theo Vaughn]

I didn't get into that. I don't get into a lot of the celebrity lore.

[Andrew Schultz]

The only reason why it's interesting to me is that, you know, like, Candace has, like, been positioned in a way on the Internet, right? Like, and she existed there, and people had her opinions on her, and, like, everybody was stuck. They're like, that's this girl. And bad. No, no, no, no, no. We don't listen to her at all. And she started talking about that Baldoni Blake Lively thing, and even my wife was hitting me, like, have you heard this Candace Owens girl talking about. I mean, she just exposes the whole thing. Like, it's crazy how like. Like, like social utility frames how people see you so you could be a bad guy, and then you start talking in depth about something that people care about, and then all of a sudden, while you're talking about that, you're a good guy.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

You're a hero.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's interesting.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, what does that say about us? Is. Is it.

[Theo Vaughn]

What's the same with the politic thing? It's like people see you talking to a politician, and now, like, at your Christmas and family stuff, people are coming up and talking about, asking about politics and. And foreign protocol. Like.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, what should we do in Syria, Theo? Let me. Let me make a call or two. I don't know.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, people are asking if I was going to be an ambassador to something.

[Andrew Schultz]

Where would you be an ambassador to?

[Theo Vaughn]

I don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

You gotta ask for Louisiana.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, we don't.

[Andrew Schultz]

We don't need one of them. Yeah, but we should make a special position.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, but we need. Hey, look, I don't know if you've heard some of the slang down there.

[Andrew Schultz]

But we need someone who can communicate.

[Theo Vaughn]

We need an interpreter between the White House and Booy. Okay. Because we're talking. We're losing information.

[Andrew Schultz]

Theo Vaughn for ambassador of Louisiana. The greatest thing the Trump administration has ever done.

[Theo Vaughn]

Shake it like a dog, baby. Do what you do. I'll be. I'll be breaking down rap lyrics for him.

[Andrew Schultz]

Dude, that is creepy. Is that Robert Green's face on the 48 laws of power?

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, my God.

[Andrew Schultz]

That is one of the most terrifying things I keep looking at. Like, over your. Over your shoulder.

[Theo Vaughn]

It's crazy. I thought it was Dexter.

[Andrew Schultz]

Now he looks like vgo from Ghostbusters 2. Remember the dude in the painting?

[Theo Vaughn]

Bring him up. Vigo.

[Andrew Schultz]

Did you see Ghostbusters too?

[Theo Vaughn]

No. No, I didn't see it. My mom wouldn't let us watch that kind of stuff. Oh, wow. He does. And so do I, a little bit. And so does Alan Dershowitz.

[Andrew Schultz]

So you are involved in politics. How many know all these names? But you're plugged in, bro.

[Theo Vaughn]

But are we plugged in? Here's the cr. The funny thing about Candace is they're like. They were like, you're an anti Semite. And she's like, call me whatever you want. I'm a. I have one of the top 10 podcasts in the world.

[Andrew Schultz]

She really don't care.

[Theo Vaughn]

She doesn't.

[Andrew Schultz]

She is. She does not.

[Theo Vaughn]

And the amount of people that Listen to her.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's like, it's true. And she. And she changes public sentiment. Like, she flipped. That whole Blake Lively Baldoni thing, that flipped. Like, he was a. I don't want to say pariah, but people are like, this guy's a douchebag. Another one of these, like, I'm a male feminist guys. And then you're really a creep on set. She completely 180 the Internet on that Baldoni. Got to give her a check.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's a good point.

[Andrew Schultz]

And she don't even want it at that. She got to be so rich because there you need to be. You need to have some money to be that brave and have kids.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's a good point.

[Andrew Schultz]

Huh? Right? Like, once you have kids, you got to, you know, you got to make sure you can protect those kids.

[Theo Vaughn]

The dad must be like a. A rifleman or something. Or like a.

[Andrew Schultz]

The dad of the babies, Right?

[Theo Vaughn]

The dad.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Somebody has to be.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

They're going to hire Anthony Smith now to actually help protect family. That'd be pretty great, actually.

[Andrew Schultz]

Denzel Washington, man on fire.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, that would be pretty great, dude. That'd be so great. They show up to their next. Some place of the whole family, and Anthony Smith is their bodyguard. That would be pretty sick, dude. Bro, she could be in the Bodyguard.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's. That's the new Bodyguard, starring Candace Owens and Anthony Smith. Wow. Whose baby is it? You don't want to do that.

[Theo Vaughn]

No, she'll get pissed, dude.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't want to do that.

[Theo Vaughn]

And what if she. What if she breaks the story down? She. She finds out that it's. That's the whole story.

[Andrew Schultz]

Stop it, stop it, stop it. You have a deep dive on her.

[Theo Vaughn]

And she does it.

[Andrew Schultz]

She's surprised by her own.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

Results. You would never see that coming.

[Theo Vaughn]

No, but that sounds like a cool. It actually sounds like a cool movie or something. But we're just joking, Candace. We do notice, by the way.

[Andrew Schultz]

We want no problems at all. We want zero problems. Are we all looking into the cams when we say this? We want zero problems.

[Theo Vaughn]

Okay?

[Andrew Schultz]

Zero problems.

[Theo Vaughn]

Weinstein didn't do it. That's what she's on. That's what she's saying now.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what she's saying. But I will say, you can't predict her at all.

[Theo Vaughn]

No. She's brave and she's thorough.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

And she's never lost a lawsuit, so there she is. But it is kind of crazy how, like, the mainstream media had just been this machine, and then now you're starting to see, like, oh, well, what about these stories you never heard about? What about the fact that some information might not even be true because it was all just kind of, like, part of a plan? Like, that shit's kind of wild.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

And that makes podcasting and, like, freelance communication or whatever it's called.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Even more interesting.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. I don't even know what to believe now when I'm. You see clips and I start. But I'm like, oh, this is what I. And you're like, dude, I have. There's no real place to get completely factual truth.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, maybe.

[Theo Vaughn]

Except your instinct. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

But maybe because, like, there is no complete factual truth.

[Theo Vaughn]

That could be it too.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think that's the thing. And I think it was probably easier when there's, like, a few different news channels to disseminate information. Like, kind of. We all agree on more. Hey, this is what happened during the Civil.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is what happened during the Revolutionary War. This is what happened during World War II. I didn't even know Russia did anything during World War II until, like, a few years ago. I found out, like, 25 million Russians died in World War II.

[Theo Vaughn]

Nu.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Are you serious?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Pull that up. How many Russians died in World War II? That's unbelievable. You don't ever hear about that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Never hear. But why would we teach that?

[Theo Vaughn]

Right. You know, but it gives you a different concept of who did what.

[Andrew Schultz]

27 million. Wow.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, my God.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. 19 million civilian deaths. 8.7 million military deaths. That's the thing with Russia. It's tricky. It's like.

[Theo Vaughn]

So they were an allied force, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. And then immediately afterwards, you know, we started, you know, beefing in the Cold War and all that kind of stuff. But, yeah, we had a united cause at one point in time because I think Hitler invaded Russia.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, wow.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. But the problem with invading Russia is, like, they have a. Like, a cultural acceptance of misery.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right. So they kind of like it in the beginning. Is that what you're saying of war?

[Andrew Schultz]

You're saying they're like, oh, finally. This is our. We're back to Homeostasis.

[Theo Vaughn]

Like, be our guest. Be our guest. Yeah, Like, Yeah, exactly.

[Andrew Schultz]

So. So I don't know. I just feel like if, like, Americans, we like it. We like. We like. We like nice shit. We like being comfortable. We're. We're brave. That's what I will say. Like, I don't have concerns about us losing a war.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Because I do think that we. We value freedom. Like, I don't think we would ever accept being controlled by another country. And I think that the majority of us would rather die before that happened.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

I think.

[Theo Vaughn]

Or we just don't know that it's happening.

[Andrew Schultz]

Here you go again. Theo. Theo. Here you go. Theo.

[Theo Vaughn]

Theo.

[Andrew Schultz]

Theo. What country are you talking about? Theo. Theo. Candace. See what you started, Candace? Theo, what are you. What are you talking about right now?

[Theo Vaughn]

Theo.

[Andrew Schultz]

Theo.

[Theo Vaughn]

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[Andrew Schultz]

That's the problem with, like, having people talk to us with, like, really compelling arguments. It's like, I will believe the last YouTube video I saw. Whoever put this shit up this quickly. This got to be AI, right? This has got to be AI. There is no way.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, that's.

[Andrew Schultz]

There is no way. Hey, you're asking for it. Whoever's doing this is asking for it. You need to stop right now.

[Theo Vaughn]

Listen, this is not fair. Whoever's doing this, but Canis looks great.

[Andrew Schultz]

Stunning dude, Beautiful woman.

[Theo Vaughn]

Wow. I look like. Oh, that's Anthony Smith. I thought that was my face.

[Andrew Schultz]

My face. Yeah, the cast himself in the movie. I cast myself as Anthony Smith.

[Theo Vaughn]

Does it look. I. My nose is a little bigger than his, though. Lip is the same. That's crazy. I looked at that two times. I was like, like, I wonder how they did that, but let's go. Huh? Wow. Yeah. Oh, it's not gonna age well. It'll be fine, Candace. It's. We're joking.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's all jokes.

[Theo Vaughn]

But yeah, I mean, and. But the worst, if you see a Charleston White video before you go to sleep, that's the last one you see.

[Andrew Schultz]

So that's a wild dude. Charleston.

[Theo Vaughn]

Have you had him on your show? No. Have you?

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a wild dude, man. He. He Is just so unpredictable. Every, the next sentence he says is also one of these things where it's like, like people who say wild can also be hilarious. Let's stop acting like both of those can't be true. You know what I mean? Like, him, Dr. Umar. I love Dr. Umar. I've been trying to get Dr. Umar on my show forever.

[Theo Vaughn]

Really?

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, he thinks I want to debate him.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And I, he, I don't think he understands that. Like, I'm just a fan. Like, I just think he's a hilarious communicator.

[Theo Vaughn]

Does the culture, does Black culture with Dr. Umar or no?

[Andrew Schultz]

As the spokesman for black culture? I would say yes. Yes. Yeah. I, I, I, I, I would say yes.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's fair.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, that's fair. Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Because I know sometimes people are iffy on Charleston White in the black culture, you know?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Yeah. Because I feel like maybe it's like his position is more critical.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Whereas, like, maybe Dr. Umar also has the same critiques of certain things, but he is like, hey, we're black first and we gotta stay united. We gotta lock this down. We gotta do what's best for the community. But he is a, like, magnificently gifted speaker. Like, he just talks in sound bites. He has this like, like pastoral repetition. Like, remember, like, early Chris Rock how he would, like, repeat the premise over and over again and it kind of like just emblazoned into your head? But yeah, man. Have you ever talked to him?

[Theo Vaughn]

Charleston white?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no. Dr. Umar. Yeah. No, I just familiar with him, right?

[Theo Vaughn]

I just heard about him. No joking. One week ago.

[Andrew Schultz]

No way.

[Theo Vaughn]

Somebody mentioned, have you seen Dr. Umar? I think my buddy Z told me about him and showed me him. Oh, dude, I thought this, Oh, I thought that was Kendrick Perkins or whatever. I just saw this guy.

[Andrew Schultz]

So you thought Dr. Umar was moonlighting.

[Theo Vaughn]

On TNT and now everybody's just trusting everything he says. Yeah, I was like, everything changed.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, why is Drew Ski going to him for dating advice? Why is Kendrick Perkins.

[Theo Vaughn]

That they came after Drewski?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, that ass claim. And against Odell too. That's the thing. And then like, whatever girl did that, like, we'll never hear from her again. So you can just, you know, stupid. It's just, you should be, you should have to go to jail for that. Yeah, you should have to go to jail for that.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Because he, he has to go out and say, I didn't do. Like, that's a crazy thing to have to say as a human. Jay Z had to say that. And then they just dropped a lawsuit.

[Theo Vaughn]

Did you see that against Jay Z?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. And then again, nobody even notices when the lawsuit gets dropped. It's like, you got to scream it from the rooftops or else nobody will pay attention. And that goes to that, like, hater with the successful. It's like, like that story was so popular because there was probably a lot of people that were like, man, Jay Z for having a perfect wife and an amazing family and a child and billions of dollars. Yeah, he probably did that.

[Theo Vaughn]

Damn. And so then they'll be. They're the ones tweeting it, sharing it, everything. And there's bots now. I mean, it's just. It's definitely bizarre. You gotta trust your own gut. But yeah, you could see an article, it's the last thing you saw. And then you're like, people are like, damn, wasn't that guy addicted to drugs? You're like, that guy is, is just won an Oscar. It's just like, you know what I'm saying? If you didn't tap in and what's been going on, you know, it's all crazy, man. You'll see stories about yourself that are crazy. I saw a story that I was like a Ola jar cheese child or something from the third generation or something. And I was like, like a billionaire stepchild or whatever. And I was like, what are you? I was like, it's my dad. If we had any money. Yeah, they'd never. No one ever had it.

[Andrew Schultz]

But yo, here's the thing with that story. It's like, like that story is just to discredit you, right? Like, if you come from crazy money, everybody gets to go, ah, see, it's not real. And he actually didn't have to experience this kind of traumatic childhood. And like, this is all. It's like the story is specifically designed to cut your legs out from under you. It's like, why? Why do people want to do that? Why is that? And maybe it's in all human beings. Maybe it's just something that we have to, to grapple with. But, but I imagine, like, the more confident you are in yourself, the more happy you could be for people who get success.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, that's a good point, man. I think, realizing that, I think, well, I think for a while you come from like a scarcity mentality, you know, where you're like, man, suck. Like somebody's something bad's going to, you know, this ain't going to be okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is going to go away, right?

[Theo Vaughn]

This starts to change. Or like the government's just going to come and Take everything from you.

[Andrew Schultz]

You can't believe that it's happened after so many years of trying.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. And then also you, like, you don't know how to have, like, things. And so you're like, well, dude, I remember being ashamed of myself when I didn't have anything and being ashamed of myself when I did have something. But it was really crazy. It was like I tried to hide, always mask my life because I didn't want people thinking that seeing that I didn't have anything or that I didn't feel like I was anything. And then even when I got a house in Nashville, it's a nice home. It's not like, you know some crazy. It's a. It's a nice home, but it's not like a billion dollar home or anything. But I didn't want to show people my live. I just didn't want them to see, like, you know, I don't know. It's just crazy. It was like. So in the end, there was some part of me that just didn't want to be. That either only cared about what you thought or just didn't want to be happy for myself no matter what.

[Andrew Schultz]

And then you can never feel comfortable no matter where you are in this, in this journey, man. It's. And that's. I guess what is. What would they say that that comes down to, like, self acceptance? It's like once you accept it, like you. You should be entitled to your success and you work hard for it, then you're not as dependent on like the validation of others.

[Theo Vaughn]

I know. But it's hard to get away from that, I think. I don't know if it's hard. Some things, like doing ayahuasca, that kind of stuff has helped a lot of that stuff. Really though? Yeah, that kind of stuff's been a. Been a.

[Andrew Schultz]

You've done that a few times.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I like it, dude.

[Andrew Schultz]

Really?

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. You do it enough times, they give you this jacket. Definitely.

[Andrew Schultz]

Some guy walks out of the jungle in Costa Rica, you get a punch card four, you get an Eagles jacket.

[Theo Vaughn]

That is so ridiculous. Dude.

[Andrew Schultz]

That is cool. You know who told me Neil told me that. Oh, yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Neil Brennan became the. He became like this connector. Go on.

[Andrew Schultz]

But no, I think that's kind of what it is. Like, you know, Neil is. One of his super powers is his cynicism, you know, like, he's constantly consumed, I hope he doesn't mind me saying as well, he's constantly consumed of like, what the. The worst case scenario of something would be or what the worst case, worst. What the worst person would think about the thing he's doing and what's. What's good about that is, like, when you're creating stuff, you. There's a. There's an advantage in that you're always thinking about what your biggest critic could say. So maybe you really try to sharpen every premise and sharpen every joke and make sure there's no fat, and it's, like, infallible. And the negative aspect about that is that, like, if you're just creating for them, it's hard to create something authentically. And then he said he was like, listen, after I did that, like, that voice started to dim a bit. And, like, I didn't have. I wasn't constantly consumed with the critic, and I was able to make, I think, my best shit. I think that's true. It's like. It's hard to create authentically when you're worried about what critics would say. Like, you're just making shit for them.

[Theo Vaughn]

You know, like, for somebody. Especially when your whole life you've only tried to. You've gained a lot of your acceptance from other people.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

You know, I think that's probably been a lot of my life, but I didn't even know who I was. There wasn't a me. So the only thing there was was your reaction.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

So I didn't fog in.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do you think you found yourself?

[Theo Vaughn]

I think it's gotten better as I've gotten older. I think some of it is getting older. You just kind of like, I can't fucking. Whoever you are, motherfucker, we got to come out.

[Andrew Schultz]

We got a lot of time left behind it for 40 years, my boy. Like, enjoy some of this shit. We got a new jacket.

[Theo Vaughn]

Hey, man, come on. We gotta. We gotta figure this out.

[Andrew Schultz]

You just getting tired of it. That's funny.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's great, dude. Yeah. So I don't know, but I think also you just get older. You're like. There's just no. You're. Whatever part of you that still cares about that starts to go away. I think it's just exhausted, too. Well, I think chasing its tail, kind of.

[Andrew Schultz]

Maybe that's the. Maybe that's the release for you with something like Ayahuasca, where instead of, like, constantly searching for what it is and who you are, you do feel connected to whatever this greater existence is. And you just get to go, okay, I'm not gonna worry all day about what exactly I am and what I don't have and just be this, you know, bottomless pit that a lot of us in entertainment can be. Like, there is. And maybe that's what you need. Maybe you need that reminder. Yeah, maybe you need that reminder you're part of something bigger.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, I think that that's a good point. Because once you feel like you're part of something bigger than some connection, then you kind of don't just think about yourself. You're not as isolated.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. You're not. It's. It's one time. It's. It's. There's something liberating about knowing things are way bigger than you.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

When it's not bigger than you, it's very easy to get caught in your own head. It's. It's a lot of pressure, I imagine if you're just thinking about you and like, how you're being perceived and if you're becoming the man you thought you would be and, you know, if you feel comfortable with the success you've had, how other people will react to that success.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, yeah, that's crippling that shit. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff that's kind of like, scary, I think, as you get older. Older. I think. Yeah, popularity is kind of scary. Watching your own ego and being conscious of, like, what is your ego and what is just you trying to have some self confidence in yourself. Especially if some of those things are kind of like. If you're like kind of a late bloomer and some of that shit's happening, you know, can be. Happens simultaneously. It's all.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. What's an example of that?

[Theo Vaughn]

I mean, even some of like, thinking about, I knew something about politics. It was like just the fact that it took me a couple weeks to realize, dude, you don't know about politics. Like, yeah, you got to talk to some political people. People. But do. And how much do they really know? And. But it's like, don't. That's a trap. Right. What do you know about. You know about, like, being curious. You know, about, like, wanting to talk to different people. You know, about trying to be funny.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, I think, I think politics is always a reflection of culture. Like, politics is downstream from cultural needs and necessities. And I think that one of the things that's made you so successful is I think you're deeply connected to culture. Like, you, You. You're aware of what people are feeling. You're aware of what they're frustrated by. And you know, regardless, if there's like data analysis to back up every single one of those claims, like, to me, that doesn't mean anything. Like you can list out all the facts you want, but like you're aware of people's frustrations and politicians have to react to that. So you don't need to know like, what fucking senator is pushing what bill, because they're all reacting to the thing that you're more acutely aware of probably than even not them.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

I guess it like you can't be a comedian if. Or at least a high performing comedian if you're not in touch with like what people are feeling. Yeah, Like I. At his core, I think that's really what makes somebody a good comic. Like. Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

And how to stay like just how to like stay and stay connected to that type of thing, I guess, you.

[Andrew Schultz]

Know, and sometimes with success, it's harder to connect to it. And it's also harder for them to connect to you. That's probably why you want to hide the house in Nashville. You're like, well, they feel like they can't relate to me because of this new life I live. I would that that's something that like. So I grew up in New York City, right. And like in the city.

[Theo Vaughn]

Grew up?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I grew up in Manhattan. And one of the things about growing up in Manhattan, it's incredibly humbling. Like you never feel you were in the newsies.

[Theo Vaughn]

You were not in the news.

[Andrew Schultz]

I was in newsies.

[Theo Vaughn]

Were you really?

[Andrew Schultz]

No.

[Theo Vaughn]

Have people ask you that before?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, you're the first person.

[Theo Vaughn]

But when that was, was. But I love that movie.

[Andrew Schultz]

Good little movie. I think Christian Bale was in that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Crutchy, that little guy like, give me the pape to.

[Andrew Schultz]

That was my childhood.

[Theo Vaughn]

Just say you got a kid on one crutch.

[Andrew Schultz]

I can sell the newspapers.

[Theo Vaughn]

Hiking up the lic with a sack of newspapers, dude. Lie, lie. The lie with a sack of newspapers, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

But anyway, like, you just humble constantly. You never feel like you got money. There's always somebody way richer. There's always somebody with a way better job. As always, some of the better career, like, because you're in the city where the most successful of all the people have. So you never feel like, you never feel this. This concern that you were talking about, which is like, oh, if I show this nice thing I have, people will think that I'm. I consider myself better than them or something. If you grow up in New York, you never feel that way because there's always someone so much higher than you. You know what I mean? There's always some so much more wealthy. So it's Just this. This. There's, like, a hustle mentality, which is like, I'm gonna work really hard.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

For as long as I possibly can, and I'm gonna try to get some nice. But I'm gonna earn it. I'm not gonna just have it handed to me. I'm gonna bust my ass. But when I do get it, I don't feel guilty about it, because it ain't even as close. As nice as the guy who lives three blocks that way.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

So I. But I. I understand. Like, my mom's from Scotland. Like, you know, comes from nothing. There's that sentiment of, like. Like, you getting something nice. The community could feel like, oh, do you think you're. You think you're better than us now because you got this fancy house?

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, yeah. When I was a kid, like, if somebody could read, people would call him a. Whatever, you know, like, if you got a. If somebody brought home a bee on our bus, dude, it. You were just a. Just a sick homosexual, you know?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

You. Yeah. They would beat you up. Up. I mean, they would let people ride home on our bus with no shirts on. And I'm like. And, yeah. I'm like, well, why don't people have to have shirts on? Or whatever? But it was just like. Yeah, it was just. Yeah. I don't know. It's tough. You want to kind of stay, like. I don't know, as your life changes and as you get older things change, your life gets bigger, and you kind of sometimes want to just stay the same. Like, I think there's parts of moments in my life that I really miss where I was real comfortable. And I think as your life changes, sometimes it probably is like a new space. What's it been like for you having a child since. I know a lot of your special was about it, like, the greatest. Was that something that took away a lot of that just worrying about yourself type of thing? I mean, did it really. Or you just. Is that something that people just say.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm glad that you asked that second question. But the. The weird thing about having a kid is it. It is literally every cliche that anybody has ever said, oh, that's a little Shiloh Dang.

[Theo Vaughn]

Huh?

[Andrew Schultz]

Look, cutie.

[Theo Vaughn]

Wow. At the beach, Rich, huh?

[Andrew Schultz]

What UFC fighter does she look like?

[Theo Vaughn]

No, hold on.

[Andrew Schultz]

Don't do it.

[Theo Vaughn]

Huh?

[Andrew Schultz]

Don't do it. I think we got to do it.

[Theo Vaughn]

He's a. But for your wife, you have to say that she. And this is Nick, you know, it is. He's got a fight coming Up Michael Chandler a little, but he's fighting Volkanovsky.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, Diego Lopez a little bit. Oh, my God. He's a pretty. I'll take that one. That's a compliment.

[Theo Vaughn]

Acceptable.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's got to be a new segment, I think. Yo, yo, yo. He's good. He's good.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, that's pretty cute.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, cute.

[Theo Vaughn]

I don't now, I still want him to hear me say that, but there's something very charming about him. She's a beautiful young lady.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's going to be a great fight.

[Theo Vaughn]

Shout out.

[Andrew Schultz]

Volk too, man.

[Theo Vaughn]

That is a. I think that is an exciting fight, huh?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Seeing Volkanovski sing the other night about that.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's got a little voice, bro. I know he's got a good voice.

[Theo Vaughn]

And it's just fun to see his per. Like, it's so great. I think if fighters are around long enough where you get to see their personality, of course, like, they used to only have to just be so tough off, and now they can do that, but also, like, have a bit of showmanship, you know. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

We want to connect to them.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I will, you know. Back to the kid.

[Theo Vaughn]

Back to the kid. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's every cliche you've ever heard times a thousand like it. And it's. There's a reason why that exists, I imagine. It's like we all should have this reaction towards children, right? Like, their smile is the best smile, their laugh is the best laugh. It's the most incredible experience you ever had in your life. And there's a little part of you as like a comedian that goes, you know, oh, I'm going to have these unique takes on being a father. And it is. Is your takes are so similar to every other person who's ever been a dad, which is. Which is now I see as a beautiful thing.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

But, yeah, your life gets really small. I can only speak for myself, but, like, I just don't care as much about other things, you know, Like I, I want to spend time with her. I want to spend time with my wife and I. As long as they're proud of me and happy with me, that's enough.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Anything else is. It's icing on the cake. It feels really good. Like, the response to this special. Special feels really good. It's like amazing. Like, all these people who went through IVF and had a similar journey as us to, like, get pregnant, like, they, they talking about, like, feels really good.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

But. But I'll tell you one thing. As long as, like, my wife and baby are, are happy with me. Like, that's. Yeah, it is an amazing. I hope you experience it, man, if that's something that you'd like to experience.

[Theo Vaughn]

But yeah, I'd like to have that, man. It's cool to hear a parent say that too. You know, I think that like, like it's nice to hear a parent say those things about their family did.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's. It's so cool, man. It is. Also, you'll watch her. Like, it's very, very rare in life you get to see somebody give a hundred percent. Like a really 100%. And like when you watch them in labor is 100% really. It's just they're giving everything they possibly can give.

[Theo Vaughn]

What happens if they just do 80 or whatever, 60 or that baby stays.

[Andrew Schultz]

In there, bro, like, we had to do a C section. Section. We. My wife had to do a C section. Obviously it was like I didn't do anything. I just sat there like an. And. But it was. But yeah, it's just amazing what they're willing to do. Like, my wife lost a lot of.

[Theo Vaughn]

Blood and like, like 50 Cent, almost.

[Andrew Schultz]

Literally it was like, yeah, yeah, yes. Yeah. It's very similar actually to what 50 went through. I gotta talk to 50 about that. I was like, dude, you basically got a C section out there in Jamaica, Queens, bro. We talk about that like 50c. 50c. He's good, he's good. No, but, but bro, it was like she had no energy left. She had no blood in her system left. And they ask her, they're like, can you do a little breastfeeding for the baby? Cuz she needs to eat right now. Then they're like, if you don't have energy, that's fine. She breastfeeds the baby the second the baby pulls off. This is like after, I don't know how long it is, she goes, My wife's like, she. Is she good? And the doctor said, yeah, she's good. And the second the doctor takes her off, she just closed her eyes and passes out. But it's like there's this like primal urge to do anything for the. They' do anything for that baby. And it is like, yeah, it's a beautiful human experience to watch somebody love something. Like otherworldly love. And yeah, I think it's a really important part of. If you, if you're lucky enough to be able to do it. It's a really important part of like the life experience. It just makes everything, it makes everything small and, and, and worthwhile.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, dude, that's. Yeah, it's. Thanks for sharing that, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Sure.

[Theo Vaughn]

What's it like to see your parents interact with your. With your. With your child?

[Andrew Schultz]

So my dad is. My dad has dementia.

[Theo Vaughn]

I know. He's sick, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, he's had dementia for a while now, so he's. It's hard for.

[Theo Vaughn]

He did the intro to your special.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, that was pretty cool.

[Theo Vaughn]

That was cool, dude. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

I was wondering, was that tough for you guys to get him to pull it off? It was okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, it's interesting is like, he's like. We put the. This is. We filmed that actually at the early part of the tour.

[Theo Vaughn]

I loved how your special started off with the joke, because it. Or it maybe it just like, oh, I'm already having a nice time.

[Andrew Schultz]

Boom.

[Theo Vaughn]

I thought it was a great choice. Y'all made it. I thought it was one of the best. I thought it was one of the best I'd seen in a while.

[Andrew Schultz]

Thanks, man. Yeah, it was cool to. Yeah. The first one we were thinking about, we're like, should we just start the joke? And then, like, the first thing is, I think I go, you guys want to hear my favorite New York joke? And we could have just cut that line. But there was part of me that went like, if I'm just hanging out with friends, and I go, yo, I got a good joke, you guys. I. My friends, or anybody else in that group was go, yeah, I like hearing a good joke. Like, this is why I'm tuning into a special. Like, sometimes I feel like the first joke you tell on stage is the most inauthentic, because it's like, hey, we're going to do this thing where I talk and you guys just listen. And once we get into it, it will all make sense. But the first. The first 30 seconds or a minute of it is inauthentic in a way. Unless I honestly tell you. Hey, you guys ready?

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm going to tell you a joke.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Does that make sense? While I'm trying to communicate?

[Theo Vaughn]

I've never thought about that before. Yeah. There's this kind moment where everybody pretends like they don't know you're about to tell. Like, they kind of like. There's this weird moment in the beginning.

[Andrew Schultz]

We have to suspend disbelief or whatever it is.

[Theo Vaughn]

What's he going to do?

[Andrew Schultz]

We know what we're juggle or.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, yeah. Remodel the building.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Like, so.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know. I was like, how do I just make it feel, like, authentic or natural or whatever. And.

[Theo Vaughn]

But.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but having my dad do it, the intro is just the coolest thing.

[Theo Vaughn]

And how many takes you have to do with dementia? How many.

[Andrew Schultz]

How so that we did a. I mean, he was able to. He was able to knock it out, but we tell him the line right before every single time.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, just give it up for my son, Andrew Schultz. Like, and it's. He goes and says it and then you could really feel him. It was like, really beautiful. I'll probably get emotional, like. But he was like, really. He really wanted to do it, you know?

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And like, he was. He's been a great father. So it's like. And he's like trying to remember it, you know, and like. Yeah, it was just really. He. Yeah. Yeah, it was cool.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's awesome, man. It makes me sad. Kind of not sad, but it may seem.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, it's beautiful.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. It's something that's real.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's. Yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, dude. Right. When I saw that. Because I remember seeing the video that you shared about him. When you're gonna play Madison Square Garden.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

And it was like, that was like something that everybody could relate to.

[Andrew Schultz]

And.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, when I saw that, it was like. Because. Yeah. I don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

He was. He was. I keep saying he was, which is up. But like, he had a. He had a really shitty dad that like, wasn't there for him at all. And he didn't have me until, like, late. But he, like, he never said this, but like, he made a decision that he was not gonna let that happen again. And he was just like. He was just there for everything. Like, every. I don't know what it's like to not have a dad there for everything, which is an amazing privilege. Don't give me wrong. But like, it was just so important to him to like, let's go throw a base. Let's play some basketball. Like, whatever you want. I need help with homework, like, whatever it is. And. And you know, he has his dimension. I feel like every time I see him, I just like, I. I just hope he knows that he was incredible. And like, it's. That I'm nowhere close to where I am without that.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, all my confidence comes. Comes from him. Wow. You know, like every bit of like, self belief, like anything is just. There's this guy who's believed him.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. Is there a part of you, like, as. So as dementia? Some. I guess someone's like. So who. Someone is. Starts to kind of disappear a little Bit.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Is that a fair way to say it or not?

[Andrew Schultz]

I would say like your short term memory goes away. So I guess memory is broken up into long term memory and short term. And for someone to get into long term, it just needs to be repeated. So he has his long term memory. He like, knows the map of New York. He can like go around the city, but he might forget, like, what he's going to do.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

But he knows how to get home. Yeah, but if we took him to Florida, he wouldn't really know how to get around.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

And then short term, it's like he doesn't really know. You know, he'll have a conversation with you and then he'll kind of forget. He'll bring it back up. He has like a few things that he'll like, talk about. But I will say that, like, you know, the concern is when this happens is that like something underneath is, is bitter and angry and like he just becomes this like, resentful human being. But he's pure man. Like, he's just a pure, like, loving, good soul. So he gets to find out every time I see him that he has a granddaughter.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And like, that's pretty awesome. Like, you know, like, like, so there is a, like if there's a little positive perspective that you can, all you can do is change perspective on. So like, I could tell him every single time, it's like, yeah, I got, he's like, what? Oh my God, what's that? Like, you know? And like, so that's cool to tell. Yeah. Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's gotta be super cool.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, it is.

[Theo Vaughn]

Is there, is there any fear that like, as a part of him, like that the part of him inside that will, will forget that you care about him? Is that, is that like, does it make any sense?

[Andrew Schultz]

I, I, my, the fear is that I haven't communicated to him enough, enough how incredible a job he did. And I don't even know if that's important to him.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right. Because for you to know it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Like, it's important to me that he knows.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

That he's the goat. And like, like he might not know that. Like he's. And it's so interesting. Like, yeah, like, it's. Yeah, it's just so interesting. Yeah. Yeah. It's like you just want them to know.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

But, but then I realize now after having a kid, like before I had a kid, I thought he was doing everything just for me. Like he was, he was doing things that he might not actually want to do, but he's like I'm going to be there for my kid. And now that I have a kid. Kid, you get so much joy.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, you realize. Oh, he was, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's. It's this beautiful relationship where, like, you could selfishly be a good dad. Like, taking my kid to the Museum of Natural History the other day was more fun for me than her. Yeah. Watching her look at a woolly mammoth, you know, like, and just have her mind blown, you know, she just, she's looking at. She's looking back at me. She's like, what the is this? Like, and it was just. And I'm like, we got to go to the museum every week. Like, what? Whatever. There is this beautiful where. Where like, your selfishness benefits your kid.

[Theo Vaughn]

Ah.

[Andrew Schultz]

If maybe if you have a healthy relationship. I know there is, like, unhealthy. Right, Right, too.

[Theo Vaughn]

But I think I see what you're saying. So then it's like now it's like, there's no way. He couldn't ever know how much I care about him because it almost doesn't even matter because he cares about me so much as a dad. You care about your kids so much that as long as they're okay, that's. Then everything else. Is it you would hope, like, is that kind of what you're saying? A little bit.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. You would hope. I mean, I mean, again, right.

[Theo Vaughn]

I know there's a lot of instances not the case.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. But I mean, yeah, I would just. Yeah, I would hope. I would. I hope that's the case. Like, he battled with depression a lot, you know, like, my, my family's got a lot of mental illness in it. Right?

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

So, like, so he battled with depression a lot. And so it's just, you know, like, you don't know what to do when you're a kid about that. Like, I used to take him to the Comedy Cellar before I ever did comedy. I was like, I thought that, like, if you laugh, you're not depressed. Like, that's how I thought it worked. So I'd take my depressed ass dad to the comedy cell. Little did I know he's just. Just listening to depressed comedians. He's probably getting more depressed. Like, he's, he's struggling his life. He gotta listen. He gotta listen to these sad ass comedians on stage talking about how shitty their lives are. He's like, this kid is gonna kill me.

[Theo Vaughn]

But hey, if it makes his son.

[Andrew Schultz]

Happy, he's thinking, if he's doing it for me, he's doing it for me. Damn near almost killed himself half the comedians.

[Theo Vaughn]

You're doing it for, for him and he's doing it for you. That's hilarious, dude. Yeah, he's like, God, he's sitting there.

[Andrew Schultz]

He'S just rubbing over, drinking a Poland spring, looking for the vein.

[Theo Vaughn]

So.

[Andrew Schultz]

But yeah, it's just.

[Theo Vaughn]

What a fascinating thing that he's doing it. That, that, what a, what a unique way to think of a crossroads of a father and son. That he's doing it for me and I'm doing it for him. That's kind of fascinating.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't know know, like, you just don't know how it works when you're, when you're younger. Like, you don't even know like the effects of depression or these types of things.

[Theo Vaughn]

Especially in his, in his era. Like 20 years ago, you had no idea. Even 30 years ago. Yeah, no idea. You're just like, oh, Rodney likes to sit in the car by himself. My dad would go sit in the car by himself for a couple hours.

[Andrew Schultz]

I love it. I love it.

[Theo Vaughn]

And my mom's good. Well, if you get out of your car, like, he wants to be out there sitting out there by himself. The man in our town used to park their trucks behind the wind Dixie and cry back there sometimes.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

And you'd see him just, you know, you'd see a guy open his car doors to let a bunch of tears fall out and close it back like it was there.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo. There is bravery to that, though. That, that's the thing that, like, I think we look back at that generation who was really trying to figure out how to deal with their mental health. And they stiff upper lipped it. And I think a lot of times we go, oh, they just ignored the problems. It's like, no, no, you can't ignore depression. It's not something you could ignore. You know what I mean? It' and what they did is they said, you know what? I'm gonna go to my fucking car and I'm gonna cry and I'm gonna get back and I'm gonna be a dad. I'm gonna be a husband and I'm gonna take care of his family.

[Theo Vaughn]

And it's like, and I'm gonna get my fucking son a Pistons jersey.

[Andrew Schultz]

And you're not even a Pistons fan. Like, that's depressing too. You want it so badly for this kid to be a Knicks fan.

[Theo Vaughn]

This likes the team in a lame beard jersey.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah, it's.

[Theo Vaughn]

I'm glad you can have all that, dude. That's super cool.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, it is. It is really cool, man. It's really cool.

[Theo Vaughn]

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[Andrew Schultz]

You also, like, you realize, like, here's something I realize is I would. I would always call my wife, like, when I know that the baby's waking up from a nap. Let's say I'm at the studio or something like that. And I call and I, you know, and she knows I'm calling to see Shiloh, right? And I once I called my wife and then she was coming back from like a workout class or something, and she was like, oh, I'm not home yet, so I'm not with Shiloh. And my heart sunk because I was like, oh, like, you don't even think I call for you anymore. So in my effort, you know, to just like, connect with my daughter in every possible way I can, I am forgetting about my connecting with my wife sometimes. And your wife doesn't want to be angry at you for that because she's like, thank God I have a dad who's so committed and just in love with their kid. But you can't forget about them, right? So it's like this constant adjustment. You go, okay, all right.

[Theo Vaughn]

I gotta put like, hey, Shiloh, is your mom home? That kind of thing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I gotta call Shiloh. Yeah, I gotta. I gotta go on the nanit. Yeah, I gotta call.

[Theo Vaughn]

I got two phones. Yeah, you gotta Put Kevin Gates in the freaking. When they're nursing dude and Shiloh feel.

[Andrew Schultz]

The most interesting man in America. He spin Kevin. Kate's sh.

[Theo Vaughn]

A little phone. She's like, hey, Mom's from. Oh, you don't want to talk to me.

[Andrew Schultz]

She gave me attitude.

[Theo Vaughn]

No, you can't.

[Andrew Schultz]

You just want to talk to this old. So, yeah, you got to do that, dude.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, damn, dude. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, that's wild.

[Theo Vaughn]

Wow, dude, what a neat journey. And I was just impressing your special, like, you just go with. It's like, you know, when I first watched you were such a power summer. The first time that I ever saw you at the Black Baby, or what's it called? The one that's next door to the Comedy Store.

[Andrew Schultz]

Fat Black cat.

[Theo Vaughn]

Fat black cat, Right. And Village Underground.

[Andrew Schultz]

Maybe, maybe, maybe that one.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, it was one that kind of has the tears in it a little bit.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah. Village Underground. Yeah, yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

But, dude, I was like, I'd never seen. I was like, oh, my God. And I had to go up after you, dude. And it was so scary. And I was like, I'm sure you killed that. I did. Okay. But, dude, then this is so. And that was great. I mean, but that was just. I mean, that was probably 10 years ago too.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

But then, yeah, this was just so, like, taking me through this story and the journey and it was. I don't know, it was cool to see. It felt like grown up a little bit.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. It's just different. Like, I've never been personal in my. In my comedy. I didn't even think my life was interesting. So I was like, ah, yeah. I was like. I thought my opinions on were more interesting in my life. So I was like, I'm not. I don't need to tell you about what's going on in my life. And then. And then this thing happened where, you know, we couldn't get pregnant and it was because of me. My sperm sucked.

[Theo Vaughn]

No way.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So my sp.

[Theo Vaughn]

What happened? So you take them.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm in the face of shitty sperm, bro. Oh, dude, you felt bad for a second. You're like, hold on.

[Theo Vaughn]

I think, yeah, well, it's just crazy because you have that like, spice trader energy. You think? You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, you want to know some crazy? My boy is a spice trader. This guy I play paddle with. All right, this my boy. We call him Spice Man. We legit thought he was a drug dealer for so long, cuz he says, like, I'm a spice trader. Like, he makes little jokes about it that he's not jok and he'll show up late to a game and he'll be like, man, sesame was down crazy today. I couldn't find a place to store it. And then he'll say, coriander options. Yes, yes. It's literally like a stock market. Like, he's back and forth from India. So we're like, there's no way this is his real life. Like, he sells fentanyl or cocaine or some shit, right? And he's just saying it's turmeric, right? So, but. But turns out this motherfucker is a legit 20, 25 spice trader. This is like the oldest job ever.

[Theo Vaughn]

We ride here. Yeah, dude, that's it, bro. From the past, baby. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

How crazy is that? Shout out to Pete, man. Spicy P, we call it Spicy P.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, dude, Spicy P, that's great. That's a be a dope ass job just hitting the streets. You what you want and you got some.

[Andrew Schultz]

He'll just hit me with random spice facts.

[Theo Vaughn]

Dime cumin.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, he's. He was like, bro, you can't store the cumin with the turmeric, right? Because one goes old. And I'm like, oh, yeah, of course, horse, bro. That's a huge. Storage is crazy out there, you know?

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. Ten Our Fathers right now. That's crazy. You can't be doing that. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

What is that?

[Theo Vaughn]

It's like you confess it in a confessional, you get a punishment. What? Oh, dude, you did the wrestling thing? Was that interesting?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, that was so cool, man.

[Theo Vaughn]

It's cool. You did a good job.

[Andrew Schultz]

Thanks, bro.

[Theo Vaughn]

It looked. It looked. Was it scary? I thought you were going to get slammed.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Was that an option?

[Andrew Schultz]

He was about to. I didn't even know it was going to happen.

[Theo Vaughn]

You didn't?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I didn't know anything was going to happen. I'm just there hanging out. Then Logan starts to, you know, get me to try to lie in front of all my people in Madison Square Garden. I want to see AJ Styles.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's who I want to see. Let's go. This.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, does it look like I'm prepared for that?

[Theo Vaughn]

And his. What's his finishing move? The tax evasion. That's the next move.

[Andrew Schultz]

We gotta move to Puerto Rico.

[Theo Vaughn]

The Puerto Rican W9. That's his finishing. Oh, my God. Dude, does he sling me? Maybe I didn't see this. No. Styles comes. Thank God.

[Andrew Schultz]

AJ Styles comes in to save my ass.

[Theo Vaughn]

He's going to come in A couple.

[Andrew Schultz]

Seconds go, I'd be toast in front of my wife.

[Theo Vaughn]

Did part of you want a little more smoke after that? Like, was there a little bit inside.

[Andrew Schultz]

You that's like, I need justice, bro.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

I need justice. You can't come do that to me in. In Madison Square Garden, my home. Talk crazy to me, you know? I need. I need some. I need some paper, bro. I need my get back. You know who Aaron the Plumber is?

[Theo Vaughn]

Aaron the Plumber. I think we had him on the podcast, actually.

[Andrew Schultz]

Did you have Aaron on the pod?

[Theo Vaughn]

I think so. Like 20 years ago or like four? Like, yeah, like three years ago, I think.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, no, no. It's a different Eric the Plumber. We had Joe the Plumber. Joe the Plumber. You need. You need Aaron on Aaron the Plumber, bro. This guy's an absolute baby.

[Theo Vaughn]

In one of the pipes. Joe found an offspring in one of the pipes.

[Andrew Schultz]

What is that?

[Theo Vaughn]

That's horrible time to say that.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, that's a. That's a Patrice joke.

[Theo Vaughn]

It is.

[Andrew Schultz]

He said, I jerk off so much in the shower, I'm surprised the drain ain't pregnant. Joe is like.

[Theo Vaughn]

It was like, I think I'm working at your place.

[Andrew Schultz]

No.

[Theo Vaughn]

Who's Aaron the plumber?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, dude, this guy's cool guy. Oh, my God. He's just. He was on this Zeus network show. Do you know what the Zeus Network is?

[Theo Vaughn]

Is it like that stars or whatever? Like Ghost book, Phantom, whatever?

[Andrew Schultz]

This is more. More ratchet, bro. But. But Aaron the Plumber, you're not qualified. This guy is a certified hilarious dude. He's an actual certified plumber, but he's hilarious on this dating show. And he. He was just, you know, he would get in a fight with anybody who popped. He's like, all right, let's go. We. We. We fight right now. But he's also hysterical. And so, yeah, he's just an Internet sensation. Love this guy.

[Theo Vaughn]

Dang. Yeah, I haven't seen him. I gotta check him out. Who did I see recently? Guno Lavish. Have you seen him? No. Who's that young kid? He, like. He makes me laugh. Huh. He's out of Mississippi.

[Andrew Schultz]

Mike Lavish.

[Theo Vaughn]

You can see the text. Went out of here. Him. Just. Just go to shorts right there. Just start it over then. Everything gonna be okay. It will be okay if you just stay strong.

[Andrew Schultz]

Stay strong for a. You wondering.

[Theo Vaughn]

Everything gonna be okay. It will be okay if you just stay strong. Okay, give me one more of. Give me a. Oh, stop being humble. Fn over there. Try that one.

[Andrew Schultz]

You out Here being humble.

[Theo Vaughn]

When everybody popping that, it's time you start popping your. Then.

[Andrew Schultz]

Stop being humble. For you out here being humble when.

[Theo Vaughn]

Everybody popping that, it's time you start popping your. He just make me laugh, man. He's out of Mississippi, man. Man, I just like his thing. He's just somebody I started watching. You know, there's like people you see and they come up and then once you watch them a couple times and you keep having to watch, you know, obsessed with it. It's crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm obsessed with Temptation Island, Spain.

[Theo Vaughn]

Really? Yeah, I could see that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's. This is the craziest reality show I've ever seen in my entire life. This guy Montoya. Have you not heard of the Montoya guy? Oh, my God. It's in crazy. So basically, Temptation island, the idea is you and your girlfriend go to this island and you split up and then they send people to try to you and try to your girlfriend to see if you'll cheat.

[Theo Vaughn]

And where are the people from the mainland or whatever I think you're all from?

[Andrew Schultz]

They're all from Spain, pretty much. So some of them may be from other Spanish speaking countries, but everybody speaks Spanish. So this one couple, she. That girl right there, Anita. Anita gets just banged out, I think five days in by this other dude, and he's got a watch. So this. This.

[Theo Vaughn]

Why did you have to watch as part of.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's part of the show, bro. So they just cucking my man Montoya. But Montoya is so charming that you actually. You don't look at him like a cuck. You're like, oh, this is. He's like a flamenco singer. He's the man. So he gets really emotional about watching the guy just beat cheeks on his girl. Oh, yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

And this seems like modern day Shakespeare almost, you know. You know what I'm talking about?

[Andrew Schultz]

Kind of. Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

There's very much a thing where like.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah, it's a fellow. Really?

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. When the, like, the figure would be like, would open up a portal in your head where you thought this, your wife was cheating and you would take your own life or something.

[Andrew Schultz]

So there it is. So, like, he's got to watch this security cam footage and you could like hear, hear like pelvis hit cheeks. No, like this. Oh, yeah. It's brutal. But it's also fantastic tv.

[Theo Vaughn]

God, I've never seen that.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's amazing, like. And I haven't watched the whole episode. I just watch like, whatever highlights get clipped and put on like tick tock. Or Instagram. I think that's how I consume everything. But I. Yeah, everything I possibly can, I consume.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. Well, it's. It's funny because you start to want to have, like an information diet, so there's things you can talk about with different guests or whatever. That's what I heard Mr. Beast say. Like he hires people to have an information diet for him. So they all absorb stuff, then they filter it down, and then he gets like this stuff from them that's like fine tuned to exactly what he would want to know the most.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, wow.

[Theo Vaughn]

And that's crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

He has like a human version of chat GPT.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

So he has intelligence.

[Theo Vaughn]

Intelligence, Yep. Like real intelligence. Like an algorithm that's. Yeah, he's like a human kind of algorithm, you know, sort of, I guess.

[Andrew Schultz]

So he's outsourcing his, like, interests.

[Theo Vaughn]

How do you run it back against those Paul guys and wonder how do.

[Andrew Schultz]

I run it back against Logan or Jake as well? Get Jake involved as well?

[Theo Vaughn]

Dude, I would. If I saw those people in my dreams, I would beat the out of them. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, that's a good caveat right there. That's a very good caveat. Now Logan needs to get it back. Logan needs to get. Logan needs to get some get back. That's. That's the reality. You can't come into my place and do that, obviously, but you know Jake. I don't even know if Jake's going to be involved in. In wrestling. You know, he's doing his. He's doing his boxing thing. Yeah, but. But let's see what happens. I don't know. You never know. You never know with these things.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

What about you? You gonna get involved in some wrestling?

[Theo Vaughn]

I don't know, dude. I thought about trying to wrestle one of those guys. I would have to really stretch and focus on fitness.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yep.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, 100%. I have to really stretch and focus on it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Or you could just get dragged through the ring like I did and then not work at fitness at all, you know? You know, it's the craziest part of that scene you didn't even see the end of. I got dragged over to banister, rag dolled on the ground, rolled into the ring, bent over and put into a suplex. This other dude, aj, saves me after Logan leaves. I jumped on the top rope like I did something. I think I'm the first person in history to just get my ass kicked and still go on the top rope and celebrate.

[Theo Vaughn]

But it really goes back to exactly what we're saying earlier. If all People see is that clip of you on the top rope. If they're like, this guy won.

[Andrew Schultz]

So I'm like, I might never do this again. When am I gonna knock? Jump in the top rope. Come on. I gotta tell my daughter something.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's classic, man. Yeah. Have you thought about, over the years of moving out of New York, I know you were talking about the taxes and stuff in there and. Yeah, I don't know, like, pricey. Have you ever thought about going down to Austin? Do you ever think about that?

[Andrew Schultz]

Not living there? No, no. I mean, like, look, it's. It's incredible what Joe's done down there. Like, it's incredible. Incredible.

[Theo Vaughn]

It's kind of crazy that it almost feels sometimes like the, like another scent. It definitely feels like another new center of comedy, which they didn't have five years.

[Andrew Schultz]

I can't believe I'm going to say what I'm saying right now, because obviously, you know, New York guys were incredibly biased about stand up. We're like, the best standups are in New York. And this is where you come, you got to make your bones, this is what you got to do. And then the idea was, okay, but if you want to become like famous, you can go to la, because that's where the industry is. Somebody's going to pop into the Comedy Store, they're going to see you, you'll be famous. That's at least like the hope or the dreams or whatever, right? But as of right now, if you're a young comic, right, what is your pathway to success in la? If you're a young comic, what's your pathway to success in la? Perception doesn't mean that it can't happen. But like in LA or New York, like, what shows can you get on that eventually you become famous? Because I know if I'm a young comic, I can manage to get on Kill Tony and become a regular. I'm selling out theaters around the country. These guys are selling real tickets. If I get into Joe's world and I'm able to go on the podcast a bunch and maybe even go on the road, like I'm getting a career. I mean, if to me it's like, we need to build, start building some infrastructure in New York so these guys feel like there's a pathway to selling tickets. And that's not just New York, that's LA too. Those days of just like getting a role in a movie and then you sell tickets are done. You doing a TV show, one off and then you sell that, you don't just Sell tickets. You need to be like ingratiating yourself to the people through stand up comedy if you want to sell stand up comedy tickets. So I don't blame. I don't begrudge any comic who's like, I want to go to move to Austin because I feel like that's where the thing is happening. Especially if you just move to New York or LA to make it. I'm from New York, like born and raised in New York. So, like, moving to another city is like leaving my whole family, my friend group.

[Theo Vaughn]

It's like you're leaving your world. Oh, there you go. That's what I was thinking, I guess.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh my God. I do kind of look like that.

[Theo Vaughn]

Diego Pena, what's his name, man? Diego Garcia.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's. He looks ugly next to Christian Bale, bro. And he's not even that ugly, bro. I'm saying he looks like me, so I can't be insulting him that much. But Christian Bale is one handsome guy.

[Theo Vaughn]

Well, then imagine tape is another even.

[Andrew Schultz]

Did he AI my face onto that?

[Theo Vaughn]

I did.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is face w. God damn, bro. I look ugly next to Christian Bale. That is handsome. Look at Bruce Wayne right there, dude. God n. He's a stud. H. He's a stud. Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

And I'm worse looking than you. So the tough part is it only goes another step downhill.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, how up is that? Me insulting him before I knew it was me. Like, is that. That's insanity right there.

[Theo Vaughn]

Like, I mean, it's that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Where's my self esteem at?

[Theo Vaughn]

Don't come here for it. I don't know. I built this railroad on low self esteem, dude. Have you ever heard of the low self esteem engine? That's the only thing that's run on these tracks for years. I mean, we're picking up, we're picking up steam, but it's been slow.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, God.

[Theo Vaughn]

What are we talking about?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, there's the. The scene. So it's just like, I imagine.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh yeah, the scene.

[Andrew Schultz]

Every. I mean, think about, like, obviously we're in different positions, right? Like we're, we're in a different part of our career where we have, we can.

[Theo Vaughn]

We're not coming out. It's not the beginning of our career.

[Andrew Schultz]

Exactly. So. But if you were young and you're like my pathway to success. Like, like what if you go to la, what do you, what shows do you get on to eventually make it? Like, what is your right?

[Theo Vaughn]

Well, there's a couple things. One you can get a lot of. There's a lot of in like influencers and stuff out here. So there's a lot of like social media influencers. That stuff is real out here. There's movie stars that live out here and there's television shows. But I don't know if a lot of stuff still shoots in la, which is kind of crazy. Like even whenever we shot this little movie with Spade there, we, we're like, they're like, thank you. People were like, thank you guys so much working here. We haven't had work in months. And I'm like, what do you mean? Cuz I don't know who shoots what, you know, they're like, yeah, I'm like, in Hollywood you haven't had work in months and yeah, I guess there's just nothing shooting here. Which seems crazy that you would build an industry where then nothing even shoots within it. You know, like at a certain point you can't cut every corner. Like, okay, we're going to shoot out of state to get attacked. Tax break.

[Andrew Schultz]

And then the tax incentives are really big. You can shoot up in Canada, you can shoot up in, over in Atlanta. Like the tax incentives are huge to go shoot in these places.

[Theo Vaughn]

The one when California match them, it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Seems like, I think like, like it's just like we were saying, like politics is always downriver from, from culture. So yeah, they're gonna have to learn the hard way. They're gonna have to see the industry actually start to be negatively impacted, like for a while. And then they're gonna have to vote out whoever is in power with that kind of influence. But LA thrives on Hollywood. Like there isn't LA without Hollywood. Like that, that's the industry.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's true. I guess then it's kind of like Barcelona or something in a way. You know, some cool museums and it's beautiful.

[Andrew Schultz]

I, we don't even know you guys have museums out here. I'm be honest with you. Like somebody told me that they're like, oh yeah, we were spending some time in museums. I was like, you got museums out here? Like I thought you had that observatory that's up on the hill and that's it. Yeah, we don't know that you have like the theater. Like do you have plays that come out in la?

[Theo Vaughn]

I have no idea.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, can you watch Hamilton in LA ever?

[Theo Vaughn]

I don't know. It's a good question. Well, we don't really have that, the, that district, like the theater district that New York has. I mean, Danny McBride was saying this the other day, he goes, you know, I've always been kind of amazed that LA doesn't like historicize itself better as a structure. He's like, when you go down the street here, you should be. Every other building should be. This is where this was film, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

This is where Sidney Porier lived the first three years that he lived here in this apartment. Like, you know, like in this. These buildings, we've kept them because they're. And some of it is still the same because, you know, you don't have as much wear and tear from the elements here outside of like the fires recently. You don't have just like the constant salt. Salt in the air like you do in a lot of places. But. But overall he's like, yeah, I'm just kind of amazed that you don't go down the street. And every other building is historical for some reason. Some reason, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think that's a fantastic point because that is the coolest thing about la. Hollywood is like old Hollywood culture, right? Like, there's that hotel, the Sunset Tower or whatever, and like it has this cool restaurant that feels like old Holly.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, yeah, it's cool in there.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's some fancy bougie, but it still feels like. Oh, I can imagine directors in like the 60s.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. What do you say?

[Andrew Schultz]

You know? What is that? What is that girl with this. The air blowing her dress up?

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, Shirley Temple or whatever.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, my brother. Marilyn Monroe. Sorry.

[Theo Vaughn]

Well, yeah, exactly. I'd like to have that stricken record. Unbelievable. Well, dude, I'll tell you something funny. Here's the number one place. And I'm sorry, who's the girl where.

[Andrew Schultz]

Her dress was blown up?

[Theo Vaughn]

Shirley, it's la. I didn't think.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's right. He's right. Weinstein's innocent. Weinstein is innocent.

[Theo Vaughn]

Innocent. I didn't think if they're blowing anybody's dress up, it's going to be a child. Obviously, when people come to visit me, the one place that I take them every time literally as a tour stop is a cemetery that's near my apartment in Westwood that has Marilyn Monroe grave in it. Hugh Hefner, Errol Flynn.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, wow.

[Theo Vaughn]

Carol O'Connor, the guy from Bad Grandpa or whatever. Walter Math in there. It's just like you just show them like this, you know. That's kind of the neatest thing, I think.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think that's. I think it's a great point because there is cool historical about la, but you got to embrace it and then protect it. And I think that maybe it's just such a new city, they don't see the value in it like we, you and I, are from very kind of like old places in terms like American history, not world history, but like, there's a lot of history in, in. I'm going to give you New Orleans. I know you're not from New Orleans, but like, just this idea of, oh, yeah, there's like. And. And it's important to us to maintain that. We actually like the way that the buildings look. When a new fancy building goes up in New York, there's always this immediate rejection. We're like, ah, these fucking glasses. There goes the neighborhood or whatever it is. So we, we. We try to protect. And I feel like LA is so transient. Like, everybody that comes here is coming from Maine or coming from, you know, Montana or some shit like that to go make it. So they don't really care that much about the history. They're like, what's going on now?

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

But the people from here, like Dove, like, the people who actually grew up here and like, that is the industry. Yeah, I would, I would like to see that protected. That's a great point. And then there's another version of you coming out here that's not like a tmz, tour bus, tour, whatever that stupid is. We're like, this is the rocks house. It's like, nah, go see where Sidney Podier lived or go see where these historic actors, like, what's his face's first apartment? Jack Nicholson's first apartment.

[Theo Vaughn]

So cool. If they had that and still under. They had it, like, really locked in, dude. The guy, the founder of Canes, this guy Todd Graves, he still has his college apartment that was right next door to the first Canes. That's in Baton Rouge. And you go in there, dude, and it is crazy. It's like. It's from 30 years ago, you know, or 20, 22 years ago or something. It's just like old TV.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's maintained everything.

[Theo Vaughn]

Maintain it all. Pictures from back then. And his life got busy and so he just wasn't there for like eight years. And then he came back and it's just like magazines with like, Jordan and Shaq all just.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's a beast, that guy.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. He stays so busy. He works really hard. I think he has a little bit.

[Andrew Schultz]

He owns all of the Canes still, right? This is not a franchise restaurant I think he owns. It's kind of. It's unbelievably impressive. And maybe because I'm from New York, we just got one. There's one that just popped up in these village. But like, I. I was talking to a buddy of mine who's actually like, one of his lawyers, and he was kind of explaining it to him. It's like, this guy's, like a real ambitious, like, kind of genius to put that together. It's. It's. It's very hard to. To not sell off your company as it becomes successful, to have that vision. Like, I don't know if you're like this, but if I'm building something that's successful, and then somebody offers me $300 million for it, I'm like, there's. Some people are crazy enough to go, no, this is really worth 2 billion. I'm like, 2. What is $2 billion even? Like, what is that?

[Theo Vaughn]

Money.

[Andrew Schultz]

Money even. You know what I mean? Yeah. There are people that say no to $1 billion because they know it could be worth 5. That's. Isn't that crazy?

[Theo Vaughn]

Easy.

[Andrew Schultz]

What do you need that for? Yeah, like, you can tap out of whatever you're doing. Maybe they really love what they're doing. Maybe that's it.

[Theo Vaughn]

But then you just sell it and get locked in as a consultant or whatever.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Yeah, I guess you could. But maybe they would hate that. Maybe, like, they're like, it's my genius that drives this. This. This. This. This car.

[Theo Vaughn]

It's like that rigor mortis, whatever the. Frank, whoever made Frankenstein, orever the doctor or whatever, he wanted to die with Frankenstein. He's like, you know, I think that's what happened. What happened with Frankenstein. I fucking don't even know what happened.

[Andrew Schultz]

It was Dr. Frankenstein, and then it was the creature. Yeah, that's. Isn't that crazy that we think that Frankenstein is the. Is the lifeless animal, you know, but it was actually the doctor.

[Theo Vaughn]

Imagine how he feels. He's like, what do you. Hey, my name's Rick. You know, it's like, nobody. I'm Rick Hopkins. You know, I had a bad, bad frontal lobe surgery. Give me some. God damn. That's so true.

[Andrew Schultz]

What is it?

[Theo Vaughn]

It still goes back to. You see a clip of something and you just believe it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Believe it. Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

That motherfucker's name is not even Frank.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, Yo. It's called Creature, which is way more adept. That feels like the name for it, but not.

[Theo Vaughn]

But at least that's his name. God. Dude. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Shout out Frankenstein.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, dude. Oh. How's the Trump thing going over in New York, dude?

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, what's so interesting is, like.

[Theo Vaughn]

It was crazy how right after. Right after the election was over, everybody kind of went on about regular life. Kind of, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's and, like, now I'm almost, like, annoyed by. I'm like, I thought we weren't going to have to go through this again. Like, I don't know where. How it is, like, here, where you're. Where you're living, but we're back to, like, the bipartisan bickering, you know, like. Like, this Doge is a big deal. Right. Even though there's no American that wants, like, waste. There's no American that wants, like, government bloats, there's no American that wants, like, inefficiency. I don't think any of us are, like, voting for those three things. Yeah. So this should be, like, unilateral support. Like, we should all get behind it. And maybe the way that they're doing, I think Trump even came out and be like, yo, we're gonna use a scalpel, not a hatchet. Like, I think we're being a little bit too forceful with the firings or whatever. But this is one of those things where, like, it's so annoying. And I think you can. You can. You can blame Elon for this as well. Like, on Twitter, he's a little bit antagonistic about.

[Theo Vaughn]

I noticed that recently, some of the stuff he says, like, do you have to say that, like, you know what he's doing right there?

[Andrew Schultz]

You're in power now. Like, I think you have to have a little bit different energy when you're in power. I think when you're not in power, you're trying to get to power. Maybe that antagonism is. Is helpful. Right. It can, like, embolden the base. But you're. You're the leader now. Leaders don't need to poke a finger and, like, twist a knife or whatever. Like.

[Theo Vaughn]

Well, I think what he's doing, I. I believe that what Elon is doing is by creating all that commotion on Twitter, it's only helping his own business. Right. So it creates now that everybody's. Everyone wants to see what he's going to say. But he's saying so many things, it's hard to even juggle. But so many people are engaging and interacting. I feel like it's probably the number one news app. I don't know if it's always been the number one news app.

[Andrew Schultz]

Has to be. It has to be. That's why. Yeah. I mean, don't you.

[Theo Vaughn]

But he's stirring his own business. It's like.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

So the more he does that, it just. Then he. It's more impressions, the more ads that he can sell. Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know. If that's true, but you're basically creating a place for people to go consume content in general. And if he's the biggest creator on that platform, that it makes sense that he continues to create. So you're saying that he's not doing this just to get out information, but he's also doing this to like uplift the app?

[Theo Vaughn]

It's like a hype machine. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, wow.

[Theo Vaughn]

I don't know if that's true, but.

[Andrew Schultz]

That'S what the feeling you get from it.

[Theo Vaughn]

I'm at least. Because otherwise it's kind of in. Some of this shit's kind of insane. It's like, what is this? Like, how is he doing all of these things? And if he's not doing all these things, because who could have time to.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do all these things? Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Then who is doing it?

[Andrew Schultz]

And it's kind of, it's kind of annoying because he's a genius. You want him on your side. Like, I want the guy who makes the rockets on America's side if we go to World War three.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, I think that's a pretty good idea that we get the guy who's going to send a ship to Mars on our side. If we're going to have like drone warfare throughout the world, like, let's keep him in our good graces. I do think, and I'm a little bit more optimistic about this administration. That's what I've realized with most people, like sane people. Is it if you don't, if you didn't vote for Trump, but you're not like a, like a complete like lunatic extremist on both sides, by the way, if you're just kind of like a normal regular guy, but you feel like you lean left a little bit more, you go, you just are pessimistic about the administration. And if you lean maybe right a little bit more, but you're not some insane like right wing quack, you're optimistic about the administration. Yeah, we both kind of want the same thing. We want the best thing for America, American people. Right. We might disagree about where we get there, but we do want the most opportunity, wealth, ease of living for American people. So when it comes to, when it comes to administration, I'm like a little bit more optimistic about, like, I'm like, okay, let's just see how this works.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right? That's how I feel.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, give him a, give him a. People are going, oh, he's doing all these tariffs. It's like, my man, I don't, I'm not an economist. I know you aren't an economist.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know if this is a negotiation. Like, if you go to buy a car and the car is like 100 hundred grand and you go in, you go, all right, I'm going to offer 80 grand. Right. Knowing that they're going to settle around 90. Right. The problem is when you do that, you do that in privacy with the car dealer. Trump got to do it publicly. And now he's got people in his own country going, how dare you offer 80? That's so disrespectful. And he can't come out and go, dumbass, we're going to settle at 90. I just got to start at 80. So could you give me two weeks?

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. They don't give him any. Nobody gives him a beat to see what the long term plan. Plan is. Like, if you want manufacturing jobs back in America, then you have to make it so that it makes more sense for people to make cars in America. Maybe that's just business. Like, I agree with you. I would. I never was against Biden. I've never been against anybody that's been office. I've always just wanted the best. It's like, I want the best. I'm never going to depend on the government for my life. Like, I don't wake up every day and see what the fucking government's doing. I get out of bed and I try and take care of myself or you know, you know, take care of your family like you're doing. It's like, that's probably what most people. People think.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Anybody that has time to argue online all day is also insane. Right. Like, not saying that we don't all put our beliefs out there sometimes. But I hear what you're saying, but it's like. But you have to, like, that's one thing somebody said the other night. Oh, Trump said it during that. That whole, like, state of the Whatever. The delegacy address.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

It was just. It was like the state of the two parties are dressed up with the. If you got to watch the hour and a half of that, I don't care what side of it. This was hilarious. It was. Was like somebody who wrote like noises off or something. It was just a fascinating joint Congressional committee's address or whatever. Yeah. There was like, they kept cutting this white dude that was asleep. They threw Al Green out. People thought he was Jimmy Snuka. Threw him out, dude. They kept people like Democrats that only had their feelings on little signs that said, like, not good or Gazoon tight. Or whatever.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like 10 Sal Green at the Breakfast Club. He was going on after me and someone's like, hey, who wants to. Al Green wants to say hello. And I was like, yeah, sure, that'd be cool. This guy just got chucked out of the Senate. That be whatever. And I went, I go, I say, and like his like, handle or something like that is like waiting there with like a camera, like tucked here for the handshake picture. And I was like, did I just get set up in a photo op to make me look sympathetic to what hap? Like, I'm like, what exactly is going on?

[Theo Vaughn]

That's, you know, crazy. Yeah, yeah. Well, that, that's also scary when everybody has cameras everywhere now.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. A lot of people thought that was Jimmy Stucker, which makes total sense as well. Yeah, I think it. Still think it was.

[Andrew Schultz]

What a body, huh?

[Theo Vaughn]

Let's get it on. Was that. That was Al Green. Let's get it on.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let's get it on. Yeah, I think so, but. Yeah, so it's a tricky. Yeah, it's a tricky. It's a tricky time now politically, but.

[Theo Vaughn]

I just still like it. You kind of hope, like, hopefully there's some long term strategy. Strategy here. It's like, because if you just look at the little bits, it's kind of.

[Andrew Schultz]

Scary also if the. If. And I'm not trying to just like bag on the last administration, but like, if people are uncomfortable and the last administration was running on this platform of, hey, we're going to keep doing the same thing that we've been doing, that.

[Theo Vaughn]

Was a bad plan.

[Andrew Schultz]

You can't really blame Americans for going, well, that's not working for me right now. I got to try something different. Different.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And then giving the new thing a little bit of leeway. It's not like, again, I might be more optimistic and if it goes bad, I will be the first person to criticize it. Right. I have no problem criticizing whoever's in power.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay. This is the easiest thing in the world for me, but I, I am hoping I'm at least going to give a little bit of grace and hoping that this is going to work out for all of us. And I'm going to give it more than a few months. I'm going to give it a little bit to see where it goes. And if it does. Does go, I'm not going to be the guy to go, told you so, you idiot. Like, because that's not the joy that it brings me. The joy that brings me is like, hey, we're Actually making some cool changes.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right. America's going to be doing better.

[Andrew Schultz]

We got opportunity to, you know, start here and get up here.

[Theo Vaughn]

Imagine if you brought some industries back where people have pride in their homes and in their towns. Dude, I'll tell you this. We've gone on this tour I've been on. We've gone to probably 200, the top 200 cities so far, size wise. Right. We've gone everywhere. And a lot of the places, man, it's the same. It's like there's no, there's not a lot of businesses there. There's some cities that have kind of changed and had some turnaround and it's been uplifting, but there's been a lot of places that it hasn't, you know, and, and it's sad. It's like, oh, all this place needs is one good like influx of, of people and a purpose. You know, when people have jobs, they have purpose. Yeah. And so it's like I'm just gonna, I'm for, surely gonna stay hopeful. I hope that if, if there's some tariff stuff and cars here. Dude, there's a guy who just made a show I, a T, A T shirt. I think it's called American Giant. Can you look that up? There's a guy, he wanted to make, find a T shirt that was made in America, American Giant clothing. He couldn't even get a T shirt.

[Andrew Schultz]

That was completely made here.

[Theo Vaughn]

He couldn't get a, he couldn't get a, whatever this is called, a template or a blank. Yeah, in America. He couldn't. They didn't have it. Right? They didn't. We don't make a T shirt in this company. Right. Country.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. So don't they make Teslas here?

[Theo Vaughn]

Yes, Teslas are an American made car.

[Andrew Schultz]

So like bare minimum. And like, I'm not trying to knock any of the American, you know, other American cars. Right. Like, but I don't think Ford is entirely made here.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

I might be wrong. I don't think they are.

[Theo Vaughn]

You drive forward. Somebody said to me, I'm like, that's when I knew, like, hold on, how's this guy know how to pronounce Swedish guy? Yes, but that's a great question. Let's look that up.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

What cars are made here? What percentage of Teslas are made in America? What percentage of Fords are made in America? That's a great question, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

And I, and I guess that, you know, you could be putting together the full car here, but maybe there's like certain factors that doing other Stuff and I'm okay with that. Like, I'm, I'm okay with outsourcing to different countries. I think it gives them opportunities as well. That's a cool thing.

[Theo Vaughn]

But Tesla claims that nearly 100% of the vehicles that sells the United States are manufactured domestically, exceeding the industry average of 52%.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wow. Now, that doesn't mean they don't make cars in other countries as well.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

But the ones that are sold here made here regardless. Okay. If we want to attack in a car company. Right. And again, I don't know if they're attacking Tesla because they don't like the product. They're attacking Tesla because they don't like the CEO of the company.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And that is the risk of being a celebrity property CEO, by the way. There's like CEOs of. And you talk about this all the time, but like some of these, like pharmaceutical companies, we don't know who the they are.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

And there's a reason, because if we.

[Theo Vaughn]

Did, people would execute them. Something could happen.

[Andrew Schultz]

Something could happen.

[Theo Vaughn]

We don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Something could happen.

[Theo Vaughn]

Like somebody could throw him a surprise.

[Andrew Schultz]

Party, bro, if you, if you have a billion dollar business and nobody knows who you are, you're doing some up doing some man.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right shit, homie. Yeah. So, for real.

[Andrew Schultz]

So. So this is like a kind of shitty situation where like, yes, I understand that he's antagonizing people. He's like rubbing people the wrong way. You don't like the guy, you don't like the beliefs, you don't like what he's doing. And there are things to criticize. I'm not saying there aren't things to criticize. Like, everybody is nobody's above criticism. But to punish that car company that is 100% made in America, made by people living in America, Americans rely on those job. Like, maybe we criticize another thing, right? Like, what is your goal? That we shut down those factories and those Americans lose those jobs? That makes you feel better about your gripe with Elon?

[Theo Vaughn]

That's the thing. Some people, they, they just want to win an argument. It feels like, you know, there's people.

[Andrew Schultz]

That rely on those fucking jobs.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, for sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

They got kids, bro.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, yeah. Oh, dude, there's no doubt about it. But here's one thing that I think is sad about the about doge is that the fact that we have to out we now have to have someone audit our own government. Our government is supposed to be the thing that we can trust. Like, it will never end now. And people are like, why is this guy be having a team that audits it? Like, I agree, but I'll let anybody audit. If you bring on another company, they audit and they find I'd give them 10% of the bloat that they find if they, you know, I'm saying the simple fact that we now have to audit our own government.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I mean, I just, you know, I don't. People, I think, will gravitate towards corruption naturally. And I think it's something that you constantly have to fight every single second.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, you definitely, definitely have to.

[Andrew Schultz]

You said something interesting, though, like this idea, like, you wake up every morning, you're like, I don't expect the government to do something. For me, I think that's a. A more like Southern and frontier belief, you know, I think that, like, when you grow up in, in like, New York, there is this relationship with the government where you're like, if the roads are up, you start going, yo, why the roads up? Like, we're spending all this money in taxes or like the government, you're supposed to do it. You're giving me all these rules I got to live by, so you might as well do some. But that's interesting that you have this perspective, which is like, I don't expect anything from you guys. And I wonder if when they encroach on your freedoms, it's that much more annoying because you're like, I don't rely on you for anything and you're going to tell me what to do. Whereas we might be more accepting of. Of the laws and the encroachment of freedoms because we are more reliant on them for certain things.

[Theo Vaughn]

Certain.

[Andrew Schultz]

So. And. And I wonder if that's why, like, some of the COVID stuff was way easier to accept in big cities because we're already have this symbiotic relationship with government.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Whereas in places like Florida or even, you know, more. Other, like Southern, maybe, I guess some red states, not all.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, a lot of rural areas.

[Andrew Schultz]

In more rural areas, it's like, yo, listen, don't mess with me because I don't ask you for shit.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

And now you're getting into my house and telling me what to do when I already don't ask you for anything.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right. We have one. One road.

[Andrew Schultz]

We keep it clean. Yeah. I drive a truck so you don't have to pave it.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, that's it. Right? We're doing. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good thing. It is interesting how, like, different areas could affect your perception and. Yeah, like, I Think a lot of, like, one other thing is I think a lot of people just worry about our tradition starting to disappear. And I think that's where a lot of pushback comes from.

[Andrew Schultz]

What you mean by that?

[Theo Vaughn]

Just like, you know, like tearing down a statues and saying that everything is racist and stuff and not honoring our history, whether it is racist or not. Like, not deny, like, you know, if you take it away completely in three generations. No, you know, this is the tricky.

[Andrew Schultz]

Thing where it's like, I, okay, I, I try to meet people at their intentions because I often want people to judge me on my intentions when I say some like, crazy up joke that's not even fully fleshed out on a podcast. And him, I want people to go, oh, he just wanted it to be funny. Not, oh, this guy is an evil asshole. Yeah, right. So when I see people doing the. Taking like the progressive measures that might feel like they're going too far, I at least have some empty. I go, all right, I know what you're trying to do. You're trying to make this world that we live in, this country, we live in a more comfortable place for everybody. And you're thinking about these oppressed or ostracized groups and you're like, how can they not see certain imagery that might remind them of these horrible things that their answers, ancestors went through? So, like, I go, okay, I get that maybe you have some really good intentions here and then we can meet at that. Where we go, I get your contentions. And then we start to have. Then let's have the conversation of, okay, how much of that are we going to remove before we start removing, like, the history of our country? And some of the history is ugly. And that's. It's unfortunate, but it is the history. Like, removing it doesn't remove the history. Right, but at least, at least not looking at them like they're assholes that want to destroy America. Maybe some of them are, but I think some of them also just kind of want to make life better for people. Yeah, I, I don't think everybody's bad. I think there are bad actors on both sides, but I think there's some people who, like, maybe they were bullied a lot as a kid and they're like, man, I don't want anybody to go through that. Like, I, yeah, I don't. I want to look out for some people and create some more protections. And sometimes those protections might go like, a little bit too far. And then sometimes instead of creating protections, people will like, hurt people. Hurt people. They'll do the opposite. They'll be like, oh, white people are horrible. It's like, okay, okay, you're going too far. Yeah. You might have experienced some really up people in your childhood, and maybe you have that way of looking at it, but it's not going to help if that's your way of communicating with them.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. Yeah. I think the truth is usually kind of in the middle. I think you're right. You know, and the fact that. Yeah, it's like, it's. It's so funny. It's like you get so stuck in your own perspective of what your own perspective is, and you need to be in your own perspective because it's a survival thing, too. It's like, of course, if I'm sitting here daydreaming or something and I get attacked by an animal or something, then that's on me. Right? But it's like. But to actually put yourself in somebody else's shoes and think, like, what it is? What is it really like.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

You know, or what is, like, going through, like, certain classes or history class or things like that, like, if you're different ethnicity or different sex or something, what's that really like, you know, they're supposed to have VR goggles that were supposed to be able to do that.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, we could just see. See what it was like being Native American back in the day.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. Hey. Huh?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. They're all Italians. Look.

[Theo Vaughn]

But look, the goggles kind of like they set it up to make it sound like who really killed the Native Americans. Italian.

[Andrew Schultz]

Christopher Columbus. Look at these guys. Hey, Red Horse, get over here.

[Theo Vaughn]

How many necklaces we gonna wear, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

You called the night. I bought some blankets. Hey, hey, that would be cool, though.

[Theo Vaughn]

Like, but you could set it to any way, you know?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, that's because he was Italian, right? Wasn't Columbus Italian?

[Theo Vaughn]

They said he was. Who the knows, dude? I'm sure he was probably Italian. Via Israel, according. According to a lot of Reddit feeds as well.

[Andrew Schultz]

Twitter. It's just. They just blame everything on the Jews, bro. Like, it's not even that. You didn't even imagine it's the Jew's fault, right? They got nothing to do with it. Soon they're going to blame Christmas on the Jews. Oh, that was kind.

[Theo Vaughn]

The Jews are impressed, but also not cool at the same time.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, what if they're like, like, yo, can you blame some good, too? Like, we did some good, right? Like, y'all like Christianity.

[Theo Vaughn]

Like, you like watching Family, man, don't you? That's one of Your favorite Christmas movies, isn't it?

[Andrew Schultz]

Huh?

[Theo Vaughn]

Gangs in New York. Who do you think put that together?

[Andrew Schultz]

All them Christmas carols. They're probably written by Jews.

[Theo Vaughn]

A lot of them are, man. See, it's so funny.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. What are we gonna do?

[Theo Vaughn]

What? I'm trying to think of what else is going on, dude, that I was thinking about.

[Andrew Schultz]

What's up in your life, man?

[Theo Vaughn]

Everything's fine, man. I just been. Just. Just been working a lot, you know? Like last year, we really focused on if we had some time off to go and just work, like, go travel to a place to get guests and stuff, you know?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

So it was, like, a big focus last year to do that.

[Andrew Schultz]

And have you taken, like, a vacation?

[Theo Vaughn]

No, not in a while. I was supposed to get one over the holidays, and it just didn't happen.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do you like. Do you like taking time off? Does that.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Feed you at all?

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, I need it. I need more of it.

[Andrew Schultz]

And do you enjoy it? Like, is your time off just hanging at a beach or do you like going to, like, a city that you're really interested in, like, learning about the history? Like, what is. What is your version of a.

[Theo Vaughn]

It's just been the beach, really. I think I've been like. I think I just kind of got. I just put so much work on the calendar that I didn't start to schedules. I would love to take two weeks off and go to, like, a country or something. That'd be awesome, you know?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

So. But then I start to think about that, like, well, I should probably get a girlfriend or, like, a fiance first. Because if you go by your. Who you. Unless you get a buddy to go or something, that could be fun. But it's like two weeks. You can't really go by yourself, really. You know, and so then it's like, what are you going to do again?

[Andrew Schultz]

I imagine you with, like, a small Asian tour guide, and that's it. Just you guys motorcycling around Vietnam or Cambodia.

[Theo Vaughn]

Just say to him all the time.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, that would be. That would be ideal. But not traveling alone is cool, too.

[Theo Vaughn]

Cutting him little. Feed him little piece of yam or whatever.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, you don't have to feed them. You know, they might feed themselves out there.

[Theo Vaughn]

The first struggle, Bear Winthrop. The first struggle was finding all the components. The cotton, the buttons, the zippers, the rivets. Once Bear did all that, he ended up with his first product, a plain hooded sweatshirt. We already know all this stuff. I was looking at what some of the price issues were and stuff that he faced. But it was a nightmare for this guy to do it. And he couldn't get it done at, like, you know, it came down like 37 or something, which is, you know, which. But to do it on a regular basis. And then Walmart decided we're going to support them, we're going to give them, like a big order.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's fire.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's kind of where he's at right now.

[Andrew Schultz]

And if you can make a big order, you can obviously, like, reduce the pricing, right.

[Theo Vaughn]

Then you can go ahead to the place and say, look, now I'm going to order this many. Can you give me a better rate?

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, so can you get the material from. Does the material also have to come from here? I imagine we have to get all of our material from other countries.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's a good question.

[Andrew Schultz]

Are we creating textiles here?

[Theo Vaughn]

Good question. It's crazy because you don't know that. You know, it's like a lot of this stuff we don't even know. And then you look around and you're like, but if you find out that we can't even. You can't even get a T shirt here, then you're like, well, fuck, if we're not even making one T shirt, then what are we making here?

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean. Yeah, we're completely reliant. It's. It's a little scary. I guess that's the thing.

[Theo Vaughn]

It starts to get scary because.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. I mean, because T shirts are the. The least necessary product that we are completely reliant on other countries for. So if we're relying on T shirts, what else are we relying on? Are we relying on technology in some ways? Like, what are the things that become, like, at risk topics for us?

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

That we're relying on other countries because it's nice to know that you're not reliant or that the entire world is reliant on each other. And if everybody's relying on each other. Okay, then there's like a mutually assured destruction.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Maybe that's good, but.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right. Just tell us the truth. If you. We know everything. I would just love it if, like, here's the. The exact facts.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo. When do you think. All right, you know how, like, conspiracies are incredibly popular right now? And, like, now everybody kind of knows the conspiracies. So the, that immediate hit of. Of dopamine you get when you, like, share, like, the real truth with somebody who doesn't know it.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And when they look at you, they're like, oh, my God, you're So smart or whatever.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Now that everybody knows the conspiracies, do you think that we start. The pendulum starts to shift back to like kind of what really happens? Because the conspiracy is like the most exaggerated version of what happened.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And what really happened is probably pretty boring. Like the truth of most things is probably pretty boring.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. For sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's not what the media has told us, that's for certain. Those, those are lies, 100%. But it's not what like the Reddit historians have said.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And it's probably in here. And then we all go, all right. Yeah, like that is. I wonder if like there's something like that even to the Epstein list. Like everybody's waiting for this Epstein list and they're waiting for it to be like direct logs where it's like Bill Gates paid for anal from a 16 year old at like 4:30 or whatever. And then, then it's like name pictured, whatever it is. And then every time they hand out like the binder or whatever it is, nothing that crazy comes out. Now don't get me wrong, I believe he's like a prolific pedophile. He like, if he's, if he is still alive, find him and kill him. The girl too. Anybody who's involved in it defended it. Anybody who's on the flight logs, put him in prison. Like let's. We need some justice here. But have we created an idea of what this is which is so far removed from what it actually is?

[Theo Vaughn]

Right. And that's why they haven't really. Like this is going to be so upsetting. There's seven people.

[Andrew Schultz]

They're going to think. They're going to think we're liars anyway.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, because imagine they gave us lists and there was like there was like 25 people on it. Right. We'd be like, man, you pieces of lying to us again. Like the only thing we would believe if. If literally every single word world leader went in there.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right. Yeah. This list better be. So that's why I think they're still work. They're probably working with like top producers. Eli Roth, like guys who really can put on a good show. Todd Phillips, you know, until.

[Andrew Schultz]

How do we sell this story?

[Theo Vaughn]

Until he did Joker too, that he was on here. Like he's off. But yeah, I think. Yeah. How do we. What do we. This has.

[Andrew Schultz]

Bro.

[Theo Vaughn]

It's better be good.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why don't we just get. This is the way I was thinking. We. We solve it. The guy who gave. Who let Epstein manage his money is this guy named Les Wexner or something like that. He's this guy who started Victoria Secret. And like, I don't even think Epstein went to college or something. So, like, how the do you end up managing his billionaires money? This guy's like 90 years old. Give him immunity. Just go, yeah, this guy right here, Les Wexner, okay? He's. He's a billionaire. He's 87 years old. Just. You just go, listen, you're about to fucking die. Can you just tell us what happened, right? Tell us what happens. We'll give you immunity. You don't get to die a hero at all. You're a piece of shit that probably funded this whole fucking thing or connected different people to different stuff. We don't know what the fuck you're actually doing. You're involved, but you don't get to die a. Well, you're still a diabolical piece of shit, but maybe you do one good thing in your life before you fucking die, right? And then the American people get some satisfaction. The victims get some satisfaction. We get to actually know it's happening. Yeah, because I don't even know if we. I don't. I don't know if we actually will get to know what's happening unless somebody who was involved says it specifically. Yeah, and I don't believe Ghislaine because I think her pops was. He was part of Mossad, right? Like, so I don't believe anything she's gonna say. So.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, nobody's gonna tell the truth, right? Like, I'm just amazed that that many people wanted to be pedophiles or whatever.

[Andrew Schultz]

So here's the thing.

[Theo Vaughn]

I don't know, that's part of me doesn't believe that. I'm like, you're telling me.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't think they wanted to. I. I think that. I think he was like, yo, I got some young on an island we're all going to. But I don't think that he said, I have underage women to incriminate you on an island, right? I think he's like, yo, I got some 20 year old Russian, they're on an island. And all these dudes were like, oh, we going to go party with Russian? Like, I. I wonder if it's as simple as like some club promoter going, I got a table full of girls at TA tonight. You want to party? And people go, well, that sounds like a great idea. Nobody's idea. Those girls.

[Theo Vaughn]

Girls, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

And they for sure on idm, because why would they go, yeah, this guy's gonna make me A pedophile this weekend. Yeah, right. Like, like so. And then maybe afterwards they go, by the way, that girl was this old. So I'm gonna need you on a certain day to do a favor. That's how I would imagine it would be most effective.

[Theo Vaughn]

And what if some of the girls were not even underage or anything? You don't even know if you got. If you. You could have somebody say that you're so scared, you're already like you. There's some favor in the wind that alone. The mirage of that would. That's the biggest thing. You have no idea.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a great point too. They don't even.

[Theo Vaughn]

You're going to be so scared. Like, well, first of all, I don't want to see. I'm so bad at sex. I don't want anybody to see a video of it.

[Andrew Schultz]

A hooker on an island still is bad. If you're like a political figure that has a family and you have children, like you could be. It could be old. They could be old enough and it's still like you don't want that out because it ruins your career.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

So yeah, there are many ways to, to do it that.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, I mean it's definitely. And then it's like, how do you doctor all that up to present it to the American. Because it's a. You have to find. You have to survey Mona Lisa to the American people. There's. Because there's no. But then they're like, we have to make sure all these people that information that's released. But maybe some of that's true. If like you input information, it has a name in it that you're not sure. And then you get sued by that person.

[Andrew Schultz]

Or you got to protect these girls who are underage and they were raped by these famous people and like they have moved on with their lives. They got families. Do they want their information out there in the world? Probably not. They're like, I don't want to relive that shit. So redact me or whatever that term is.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

But yeah, I just feel like we're at this point where like if we're going through this phase in America where we are, we're an all time low trust in all of our institutions.

[Theo Vaughn]

And what happens from here. There's two ways we go.

[Andrew Schultz]

Talk. Talk to me.

[Theo Vaughn]

It gets better somehow.

[Andrew Schultz]

Or.

[Theo Vaughn]

Or it starts to devolve even more and crazier. See, it gets deeper and deeper. It's so funny because. Yeah, I. I've had both feelings. Yesterday I had the feeling like, holy, dude. Nobody's going to know where to trust anything anymore. It's going to get really interesting.

[Andrew Schultz]

Or you start being honest. Like, that's kind of, that's, that's why, right? Or you start being honest and like, yo, we're Americans. We can deal with shit. Like we've dealt with horrible things before in our past.

[Theo Vaughn]

Even as humans, we can.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's it. So it's like. And I think there's a version where like, accepting these things and moving on allows us to have even more pride. Where right now we're in this like age of like, ambiguity where, like, we want to be really proud, but we're like, but is some of this shit true? Like, we're just unknown, unsure. Yeah, let us accept it. Let's accept these, the stains on our history and then let's move on and make greater history. Let's make greater things to be proud of. I think it's a moment in history to be proud of where you're. An administration comes in, they go, listen, we, unfortunately, the government let these food companies poison you, you know, and a lot of people are negatively impacted like that. A lot of people got cancer probably because of food that they were eating. And that's, that's up. That, that's horrible. And we're gonna either punish some of those food organizations or bare minimum, we're gonna make it illegal for them to do that shit. Hey, some of these pharmaceutical companies, they were jabbing you up with shit that you didn't need to be jabbed up with, and they were doing that so they could profit. We're gonna either punish them or we're gonna stop allowing them to do it so the next generation of Americans doesn't have to go through what you guys went through. And then you go, you know, what's fire about America? We realize when we fucked up and we have the energy and excitement, excitement and the confidence, the self esteem to go, all right, we're changing it and we're going to live up to the expectations that we have for ourselves.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And that's why I, like, you could say whatever you want about rfk. It seems to me what he wants to do is make a positive change for people. Let's see if he's able to do it. But in terms of making America healthy or whatever the slogan is, why would you not want America to be more healthy? Give the guy a second to try, right?

[Theo Vaughn]

Like every minute they're like, this is the problem today. And then that becomes a story every day. It's Just like, how up it is. And I have friends now that are addicted to the news and I'm just like, dude, just live your life. See, everything's going to probably be fine. It's already been fine. We're already damaged. We all have cancer or whatever, everything. You know, we're doing our best and, and like, you know, how drastically bad do you expect things to get? You know, wouldn't it be cool like this?

[Andrew Schultz]

This is all I said. Like, obviously, you know, I have a dog, so I'm like. And she's of the age, we're going through vaccines and stuff. And it's terrifying. You know, I was talking to Joe about this. It was like, it's the most terrifying thing you ever experience in your life is you have the most perfect thing you've ever created and you have to put something in them. And you've watched a video on YouTube that says that it could do something horrible to her, but if you don't do it, she could get some disease that could do something horrible to her. So you're like, what? How do I protect my kid? There's a fork in the road. And both potentially lead to horrible. How do I protect my kid? I would love nothing more than to do like an intense, intense, like. And I'm sure they've already done this, so if they have and call me an idiot, that's fine, I'm an idiot, whatever. But like, intense, like, research into, you know, the vaccinations. And I would love nothing more if we found out, hey, you know what? It, it looks like they are safe for them and there's very low chance. Cause of anything negative for your kid. How much nicer would that feel than right now, what all of us new parents are feeling, which are like, do I have to delay it? Like, which ones? How do I protect my child? Like, like.

[Theo Vaughn]

And the, the.

[Andrew Schultz]

Just, just like, we want the research. We want it. It's. Yeah, we want to know.

[Theo Vaughn]

And I think if you gave Bobby an out where, you know, if. Even if it was 20 minutes a week where he gave a speech or something and maybe that he should start doing that to update people. Robert Kennedy Jr. To say, hey, this is where things are at and we're going to try our best and this is what we're going to try to do, maybe that would be great to have some sort of an address.

[Andrew Schultz]

Love it.

[Theo Vaughn]

You know, Trump's addresses, sometimes they're so, you know, they're Trump Trumpian. You know, they're just like kind of the bare facts. And, like, you know, we're gonna win type. So maybe if you had Vance give something that was a little bit more elongated.

[Andrew Schultz]

Sure.

[Theo Vaughn]

And a little bit more. Had a little bit more personal notation and feeling to it, like a FDR do that.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think they were called the Fireside Chat.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Where he was talking to people.

[Theo Vaughn]

You're right. We might need something like that, dude.

[Andrew Schultz]

Because there's so much muck out there. There's so much information. And, like, we're guilty of that, too. We just spout whatever on the mic, and who knows if it's true or not. But it'd be nice if we had information disseminated from the people in power. It might be wrong or might be right, but they are the people in power, so we can at least hold them to that standard. If they say that they're doing this specific thing and we disagree with it, we can be like, I disagree with that.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

But if Bobby's coming out and he's going, listen, we're getting the red dye out of here. It doesn't benefit anybody. There are other ways to create, I don't know, sugar coloring substitutes that are less harmful to you. Does anybody disagree with this? Everybody goes, no. Okay, done.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right, thanks. Yeah. There's still so many people that just want somebody to be wrong all the time, you know, so maybe that'll start to go away. I don't know. But, yeah, I think if I wake up each day and I looked at everything as politics and stuff, and it would just. It just starts to wear on you, and then that algorithm learns you, and then you're a puppet. You become a puppet. What else is going on? Let's think of something in Entertain. I'm trying to think of something. Was there a job that you had when you were young that you miss ever? That you're like, I'm good at this.

[Andrew Schultz]

It wasn't that I was good at it, but I like mowing lawns. Like, I felt, like, accomplished afterwards. Like, I'd look at it and I'd go, wow, I did that. That was kind of annoying. It was hard. But there. Here's this thing that I did, and it looks better now, and I felt proud of it. And. And I think there's a version of that in creating stuff in general. But I think very early, I like to work on something and then see the thing I created. So, yeah, there was something really nice about that. Now I get to do a job where I like the actual work part, and I like seeing the end product. I didn't enjoy the work part of it, but yeah, I think. Think that, you know, I'm trying to think. I mean, I just worked in, like, restaurants.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, yeah, you definitely did. I can see you.

[Andrew Schultz]

For sure.

[Theo Vaughn]

For sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

What restaurants was I working at?

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, obviously. Macaroni Grill.

[Andrew Schultz]

Dude.

[Theo Vaughn]

Dude, you wore a cape at Macaroni Grill. I'm sure there's no way you did it.

[Andrew Schultz]

We didn't have a macaroni grill in the city, man. Hey, look, we needed a macaroni grill.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's your origin story.

[Andrew Schultz]

I work in a piece pizza shop. I do. I do look like I could pull off pizza shop, right? Look like I was arguing with Spike Lee.

[Theo Vaughn]

I'm trying to think of whatever. I'm trying to.

[Andrew Schultz]

What about you?

[Theo Vaughn]

I worked at pizza shop, man. I love that, dude.

[Andrew Schultz]

What was the first time? Do you remember the first time as a kid that you made. Made money and, like, the feeling of that?

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, yeah, we had. They'd pay you to clean up with, like, wishing wells in our town or whatever. They'd pay you to clean them out. Like, the city, like, it's like, take.

[Andrew Schultz]

The coins out of it.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. Get in there. Like, you had to take a ladder down and get all the out and stuff. And there's like, people throw. Try like, a lot of views, like, to go orders and in that. A lot of Popeyes in that. Decent amount of money. Not as much as you would think.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

So word. We found a sword. Had blood on it one time. Or like, a pretty scaliburd or whatever. Whatever. Yeah. But yeah, cleaning out that. Cleaning out those one summer, that was probably the first job I ever had. Really. But get you a little bit of money. Hide my money, too.

[Andrew Schultz]

Really?

[Theo Vaughn]

I used to put my money in a crown royal bag, hide it in the yard.

[Andrew Schultz]

How old were you?

[Theo Vaughn]

Dig a hole and hide it. Probably 11, maybe 12. Hi.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a nice bag.

[Theo Vaughn]

That was nice.

[Andrew Schultz]

You keep that bag. Isn't that weird?

[Theo Vaughn]

Yep. Had some doubloons in it that I caught at some of the parades and, like, the Mardi Gras parades. There's just these little medallions, kind of like they're not worth. They're not worth any money, but they had pictures of, like, different historical figures from Louisiana on them. Because you catch them at Mardi Gras.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

And I put them in a bag and hide them in the yard.

[Andrew Schultz]

And why do you think you were hiding your Your didn't trust anybody in the house.

[Theo Vaughn]

I knew everybody in that bitch. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Really?

[Theo Vaughn]

My three siblings and my mom I was burying that shit. I ain't fucking.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do you still talk to your siblings?

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, yeah, we talk now. Things are good now. But at the time, I didn't trust anybody in that pastor dude because I was sneaking in their room and stealing.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's where it comes from. That's when you ain't. You assume other people ain't. It starts here, though.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, bro. Yeah, it starts here. I don't trust me so much. I don't trust you. Crazy, dude. What else, man? What's up with the culture? How's black stuff going over there? I know they have that new rapper, Gan Lee. Have you seen him?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah, I thought it's Gen Lee. It gin, like gin for ginger.

[Theo Vaughn]

Well, first of all, he's a black.

[Andrew Schultz]

Dude who says the. Sorry. He's a white dude who says the N word.

[Theo Vaughn]

He put two ends in it, so he misspelled it, so he could be either one. That's all I'm saying. But.

[Andrew Schultz]

But yeah, he's.

[Theo Vaughn]

It's interesting.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, he is. And he's like, he's. He's confident saying it.

[Theo Vaughn]

He seems really like he's from that culture.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. So now are we witnessing that word become more of a cultural thing and not a specific. Specific race thing?

[Theo Vaughn]

That's what I wonder. Because I'm just wondering, like, say you're so much a part of the culture, and it seems like he is. Like he has black friends. He says the word around them. If you're so much a part of it, but then you can't say that thing. Are you then. Is that. Feel like the culture isn't saying, well, you're, you're. You're here, but you're not. You're not. So I. I have no idea. But it's just. It's interesting.

[Andrew Schultz]

It is interesting. It is interesting because it is like. So I guess when I was growing up in New York, it was a thing that white people, we would never say and you could not say. But, like, Puerto Ricans that were kind of like white presenting would say it, and that was fine. Yeah. I think even, like, Mexicans were kind of saying it. Sometimes even Asians would say it. But if it felt really like a word, white people were not allowed to say, obviously because of the historical context. Right. But that situation right there is quite interesting. Like, if he did grow up in the culture, maybe it's his friend's way of saying, we don't see you as different, bro.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, we. We actually see you as one of us, and we don't Feel any negative sentiment when you say it. And this is our way of saying we accept you and you're not different. Maybe again, I don't know. I'd have to ask them. Whereas, like, if somebody else said it who is not from the culture at all, they'd be like, yo, you can't say that. And that's their way of saying, you're not from the culture. Culture, bro.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, you are not. You are. You're a visitor here and you're not allowed to say that thing.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right? Yeah, that's kind of how I think I'm saying. I just think it's interesting. It's kind of interesting because you have people defending him online. You have people calling him out online.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

And then some of his music is great, man. I mean, it's. It's catchy. I'm curious to see, like, it's. Yeah, it's like. And some of the lines he's saying, like, you know, don't get in trouble because of my. Like, you know, I'm not saying this because I'm. I'm just saying this because this is who I am. Right. Even expresses in, like, that stand on its own. Like, don't. Don't get in it. Don't repeat my. Just to get.

[Andrew Schultz]

And now you get in trouble.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Which I think is. Yeah, that's empathetic.

[Theo Vaughn]

It's at least given his story.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right. Because he probably is aware that, oh, white kids might see me doing this, and then they think it's okay for them to do it, and now they're getting up, so he's like, listen, your life might not be my life. Like, Like.

[Theo Vaughn]

Right. At least he put a safety precaution on this.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, a lot of people that's, like, better than the parental advisory. There's. There's a. There's a white disclaimer. Yo, you are not me.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a ginger advisory right there. That's a ginger advisory, dude. But this is gonna. This could potentially open up gateways for some gingers to say the N word. And some spicy. Some. Because they've long been looming on the edge of the culture. The ring around Saturn, they call them. And it'll be interesting to see what happens.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Do we. We. That's something like, we gotta ask ourselves, like, are we fully accepting of gingers? Like, are white people fully accepting of the gingers?

[Theo Vaughn]

I mean, look, I don't.

[Andrew Schultz]

Are you even. What? You're, like, part. Something, right?

[Theo Vaughn]

My father's from Nicaragua. My and my mother's Just white.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

But I don't. You know, I've thought, you know. Yeah. I'm not a name more guy not dropping it. I'm not that. No. What am I trying to prove to somebody? But I do remember they had, like, this cool band. I went to a black fraternity and we'll get you out of in a second. I wasn't in one. It was like, Snoop or something. New state of noop or something. Bring up a couple of black. Black fraternities over there. Southern Alpha.

[Andrew Schultz]

What is it?

[Theo Vaughn]

University.

[Andrew Schultz]

Alpha Kappa side.

[Theo Vaughn]

Alpha.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, Beta Phi Beta Kappa Alpha Psi.

[Theo Vaughn]

That might have been it.

[Andrew Schultz]

The Kappas are. Have you seen the Kappas before? Kappas are cool. They, like. They got, like, a cane and they do, like, these cool dances with the cap. Kane. My boy was. My boy was a captain in college.

[Theo Vaughn]

And they could have been it.

[Andrew Schultz]

They were, like, swagged out. And then the. What is the. The Omegas. Those are like the. The athlete. That's like the athlete frat.

[Theo Vaughn]

That's like, really, you know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Zach has that. The Q Dogs.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

I think it was Q Dog. Right? They invited. They had, like, a. It was like. It was a. It was Nickelback, but it was black guys doing it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right?

[Theo Vaughn]

It was like.

[Andrew Schultz]

Even say it. Don't even say it.

[Theo Vaughn]

I'll tell you what it was.

[Andrew Schultz]

I didn't say the name of that cover band. What is. Don't even say the name of the Nickelback black cover band. Theo, we've almost done the whole. Okay, we did a good job. We did a good job. I know you trying to bait me with this. Jin Lee, we did a good job today.

[Theo Vaughn]

Okay?

[Andrew Schultz]

We did a good job today.

[Theo Vaughn]

Me out.

[Andrew Schultz]

Here we go.

[Theo Vaughn]

Light it on fire.

[Andrew Schultz]

Light it on fire.

[Theo Vaughn]

It was just a cra. I was like, this is a crazy cover band. Don't do it. And then one of their. The song was like, oh, this how you remind me. Like.

[Andrew Schultz]

It'S not. It's okay. So. Okay, so they're doing, like, hip hop renditions.

[Theo Vaughn]

Hip hop renditions of Nick. Of Nickelback.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nick Cull back.

[Theo Vaughn]

And just make sure you say it right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. We don't even have to go into it. That's so crazy how. We know all know exactly how it.

[Theo Vaughn]

Was spelled, but yeah, look, I just felt welcome to be in the building, so. That's all I'm saying.

[Andrew Schultz]

Dude, look. This is how you remind me you n.

[Theo Vaughn]

Never made it as a wise man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Spit that whole song right now. Right now.

[Theo Vaughn]

Couldn't cut it as a whole, man. We Gotta stop.

[Andrew Schultz]

All right.

[Theo Vaughn]

Get worse. Congratulations on life. The new special's out now. Congratulations. Thank you, dad, man. Thank you, brother. Yeah. Thanks for being just somebody. Yeah, it's good to have, like, that. There's different podcasters in different parts of the country and different parts of, like, the world, you know, and it's just we're lucky to be able to do this and. And to be able to spend these kind conversations. I gotta come up there and get on. On. On your pod this time.

[Andrew Schultz]

Please, man. I want you on flagrant, and I want you on brilliant idiots, man.

[Theo Vaughn]

I'll be up there in a. I'll be up there in April. I think Charlotte gotta kick it, man. We gotta get together. I know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Even if we just go grab a drink. I think you guys would hit it off, bro.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, I'm sure we would.

[Andrew Schultz]

You guys. You guys have great vibes. He's incredible, man. He's. He's incredible.

[Theo Vaughn]

I've only heard good things, man. It would be an honor, but thank you so much for your time, dude. I know it's very valuable, and it means a lot whatnot. I just appreciate it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Congrats on everything, man.

[Theo Vaughn]

You too, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Stoked for you, bro.

[Theo Vaughn]

Congratulations, dude. This jacket. Zach Brian gave me this jacket. It's very hot in here.

[Andrew Schultz]

I saw. I saw in the back.

[Theo Vaughn]

I was trying to fit in a little, so. This is black as I get today, brother.

[Andrew Schultz]

The Zach Brian door jacket.

[Theo Vaughn]

That kind of shows you where I'm at, you know?

[Andrew Schultz]

Thanks, man.

[Theo Vaughn]

All right. You bet, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Thanks. Oh, that was great. The breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh but when I reach that ground.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones but it's gonna.