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Mark Norman
Flying out today?
Theo Von
Yeah. My stepdad is sick, so I gotta go see him.
Mark Norman
I know.
Theo Von
I'm bummed. I wanted to be there for Kill Tony.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah.
Theo Von
Are you doing it?
Mark Norman
Doing it with Kid Rock. So that'll be. I'm gonna try to. I'm gonna really zing him. That's the only way I can get to him because if I do it at his house, he'll, you know, sick his security guards on me and call me. The N word.
Theo Von
I didn't know. Oh yeah, dude. He has a dog that can say the N word. I saw.
Mark Norman
Was it a what? Black lab, I hope.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, dude. Blm, bro.
Mark Norman
Black labs matter.
Theo Von
Of course it is, dude.
Mark Norman
Hopefully it's not a German shepherd.
Theo Von
He thought a black lab was a place where they tested barbecue sauce. I was like, here, get on my guy.
Mark Norman
They make sickle cell.
Theo Von
Yeah. I was like, bro, that's not. I was like, bob, you got the wrong idea, man. So. So. So you. You're doing Kill Tony coming up tonight? Yeah, tonight.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah. The. What is it? The Bridgestone. Oh, yeah. Very exciting. I feel like Nate Bargazzi.
Theo Von
Yeah, I know, huh? Have you done one on that big of a level? That's big man, no, no, I've done.
Mark Norman
Arena shows, but I've never done like a panel with jokes and zingers and. That's gonna be weird. Just making fun of these poor open micrs in front of 20,000 people, dude.
Theo Von
And imagine them getting up there that many people. They're gonna be shook. How. Yeah, how could you have a good set?
Mark Norman
That's insane. I mean it's like losing your virginity to Pamela Anderson. Well, that's a bad. That's a dated. Who's the new hot lady?
Theo Von
Who is it now?
Mark Norman
Oprah?
Theo Von
No, it's Rihanna.
Mark Norman
Who do the kids like? Oh, Sydney Sweeney. That's a good one. Look at the tits on dicklas.
Theo Von
God.
Mark Norman
Oh, wow. Holy hachi machi.
Theo Von
She seemed like a beautiful young lady, huh?
Mark Norman
Very attractive.
Theo Von
She just got separated from her husband.
Mark Norman
Oh, hey, you're in.
Theo Von
That's slurp. Lord. I thought about center on message, but I don't know what I would say, man.
Mark Norman
Say nice yams.
Theo Von
Yeah, that's true.
Mark Norman
Dude, I think she's. She wants that. She. No one talks to her like that anymore. So it probably turn her on, you think?
Theo Von
Oh, I'll definitely say something about that vegetation.
Mark Norman
Yeah, she's got some crop circles.
Theo Von
Oh yeah. Brother gang.
Mark Norman
Dude, is that the. The X? That guy looks like a. Like a ugly me. Oh man, I feel great.
Theo Von
Yeah, that guy definitely fumbled the breasts.
Mark Norman
Yeah, right. Yeah. I mean look, he looks like an Uber driver.
Theo Von
Yeah. Dude, it would take you 70 minutes to get her bra on, I think.
Mark Norman
Yeah, that's a lot to compact in there.
Theo Von
Oh, you would have to have a buddy. It would almost have to be like two of those guys doing that slingshot or whatever.
Mark Norman
Yeah, it's like trying to get leaves in a bag. Wow, look at that. Is a lovely, lovely. It's good to know that a blonde with huge cans is. That's back.
Theo Von
Yeah, that's a great point. Dude. She. Yeah, she could be anything. She. We need flight attendants like this now.
Mark Norman
Oo, yeah, good. They're all gay now.
Theo Von
Oh, they're all gay. Even you a woman. Like you're. I. I remember trying to hit on this lady and she'll be like. She's like, I'd love to go out with you, but I'm only be going to be a woman for like another week. And I was like, what the man?
Mark Norman
Damn.
Theo Von
That's what this flight attendant said. I was like, oh come on.
Mark Norman
Good lord. Where's she connecting in Transville, dude.
Theo Von
Yeah, that's Transville's van.
Mark Norman
Yeah, they're all gay now. They used to be very attractive. It's like these sky homos. They've taken over the air.
Theo Von
It is. Dude. I feel like when you get on, you have to protect your straightness. The second you get on there, I lock in, dude. I tell my penis. I say, you know what we're here for? We're just here to get from A to B.
Mark Norman
Right?
Theo Von
Okay. Do not look around.
Mark Norman
Yes, yes.
Theo Von
They're gonna tempt you. It'll be like a kind of a guy, you know, Like a guy possibly dressed as a woman walking through liquor or snacks or those goldfish. My penis loves goldfish.
Mark Norman
Right? Oh, I love a goldfish.
Theo Von
So. But do not look over there. You stay straight. We're just. We're going to Cincinnati.
Mark Norman
Exactly. No place straighter than Cincinnati. That is a straight town. Right there.
Theo Von
It is, dude.
Mark Norman
They eat chili and watch football. Oh, but wait, hold on. You said something. Oh. You ever get flattered by the gay. The gay love?
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
That is very nice. When a gay guy's like, hey, cutie, or whatever, and you're like, hey, this is pretty good.
Theo Von
Yeah, well, because it's replacing the old thing. It's like, you still want the affection, Right? And now it's like a lot of us didn't even have dads, so it's like they're kind of coming at you with that combo meal.
Mark Norman
Oh. You get the male attention and flirty in the female.
Theo Von
Flirty.
Mark Norman
Yeah. That's good.
Theo Von
You get it in one.
Mark Norman
That's. God, I'd love to be gay.
Theo Von
That's a lot of gay guys. Thing is, don't you want that combo meal?
Mark Norman
Right. You know, and he could blow the. The chrome off your trailer. Hitch.
Theo Von
Oh, dude, can you. This is insane to be talking about.
Mark Norman
Sorry. What is God's country?
Theo Von
I'm just going to Cincinnati.
Mark Norman
Okay, you're right. You're right.
Theo Von
I'm telling you, Mark.
Mark Norman
All right. I'm already. I'm already getting a layover. I'm gay. Over.
Theo Von
But, dude. Yeah, there's just something like they. Yeah, you see them and they. But yeah. God, could you even imagine some strong guy who was probably like, on the neck team in college? Whatever. Some sporting event. Like the wrestling. Yeah, wrestling or something like that.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah.
Theo Von
And he just pins your cock to the back of his throat with his tongue or whatever.
Mark Norman
Easy, big fella.
Theo Von
Sorry. That's great.
Mark Norman
Seems anyone else hard.
Theo Von
Seems crazy.
Mark Norman
You're going to make Morgan wild. Uncomfortable. Oh, man. Yeah. It's got to be nice to be the gay. What? What? About glory hole. Is that real?
Theo Von
There was one at.
Mark Norman
What? You know of one?
Theo Von
There was one at Louisiana State when I was at lsu.
Mark Norman
Shut the up. How'd I miss that? I went there for a semester.
Theo Von
Yeah. Bring up Glory Hole. Lsu.
Mark Norman
What?
Theo Von
They had one and they. You know where it was? I think it was in. I want to say the library.
Mark Norman
Whoa. Damn. They plugged that hole. Look at that.
Theo Von
Oh, there's one right there. Taking a dump in tarot. That's a. One of those. One of the holes there. Oh, there it is right there.
Mark Norman
Whoa, look at that.
Theo Von
Look at that.
Mark Norman
Damn. You could even look through there if you wanted to, which is nice if you're.
Theo Von
But it's hard to look through there when there's a wiener coming through.
Mark Norman
Take your eye out. Yeah.
Theo Von
Dude, don't be that weirdo that's trying to sightsee at a glory hole, you know?
Mark Norman
Yeah. You just gotta. You gotta trust the hole. You gotta go with it. Whatever comes through, you gotta eat it.
Theo Von
That's the whole. Dude, that's the original game show right there.
Mark Norman
Oh, yes. That's great.
Theo Von
Yeah. Now it's like. I'm thinking of what it's called now. It's like the floor is lava, dude.
Mark Norman
Right.
Theo Von
Nothing that has nothing on the glory hole is open.
Mark Norman
That's a great point. Yeah. And you never know who's on the other side. Could be your teacher, your brother, your pastor. I mean, that's a real gamble.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah. It could be your past or it could be your future. Or, dude, it could be some gay dude, you're gonna. Or woman. Nowadays, even lesbians will stop in there just to couture their jawline. They'll pop into a male glory hole.
Mark Norman
Yeah, but what about lesbians? They don't have any way to glory. You can't get a clip that. That wood girth.
Theo Von
I don't know. You put the softball team in there. They'll. They'll hit a single at least through that thing.
Mark Norman
Yeah, Brittany Griner could get something through that hole. That's. That's what put her in jail in Russia, I heard. Have you seen her lately? She looks like Pete Davidson.
Theo Von
Yeah, I could see a crossover. Why hasn't she been on snl, I wonder.
Mark Norman
Oh, Britney. Let me see something real quick. Oh, this is awkward. Thank you.
Theo Von
Whoa. Look at those dogs walking on water. What religion is this? The.
Mark Norman
Is that.
Theo Von
Dude, I've never. Bro, that's. Dude, this is that new, man. This is what's coming now, right? This is the new Christianity. This will be a story in the Bible, one day, Brittany Griner shoots a three pointer.
Mark Norman
Yeah, she looks like Deuteronomy.
Theo Von
Damn, that was good.
Mark Norman
Ah, thanks, God, bro.
Theo Von
That's a pretty decent start for an episode. I feel like hell.
Mark Norman
Yeah, Well, I love Nashville. I love this town. We did the Ryman last night, did Zany's after that.
Theo Von
Drop your mic down a little bit.
Mark Norman
Went to Kid Rock's house. It was a long Kid Rocks. Yeah. We were just out with Tony and Tony's like, I got a surprise for you. We jump in a car, we drive a half hour, and we did it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And what a. What a home.
Theo Von
Oh, you go to. There's definitely. Was it just him there? Was it. Was it other people?
Mark Norman
It was just him and, like a security guy.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, dude.
Mark Norman
And maybe a slave. I mean, it felt like it. Big jacked, scary, like Marine looking guy.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah. A lot of those guys love to cook when they're not fucking, like sniping fucking Gazans on behalf of Israel. But yeah, dude, he build that wailing wall, dude. I heard the wailing. While this is the most Israel thing ever, the wailing. Was an ATM in it? Is that.
Mark Norman
That's hilarious.
Theo Von
Is it?
Mark Norman
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. You need some cash out there if you're going to buy a little dreidel knickknacks.
Theo Von
Oh, I'll fucking spin Gimmel on that bitch. So that's all I spend.
Mark Norman
Dude.
Theo Von
They used to call me Big Gimmel in a lot of back alleys.
Mark Norman
Jimmy Gimmel. Jimmy Gimme Alive.
Theo Von
And a lot of Yiddish back alleys. They used to call me fucking Jimmy Gimmel, dog. Oh, the Willing wall. It should have at least two ATMs at it. I can't even believe this is an issue over there.
Mark Norman
It's got to have one. Or at least a glory hole. Definitely get that. No foreskin through there.
Theo Von
Yeah, only in the glory holes in Israel it says FDIC insured. That's FDIC insured, dude.
Mark Norman
Nice. There it is. There it is. Holy shit.
Theo Von
The only kosher ATM in the world. That's hilarious.
Mark Norman
It just takes money from Palestinians. It's not even your account.
Theo Von
Yeah, that's crazy.
Mark Norman
Holy moly. That's hilarious. Wow.
Theo Von
Speaking of going abroad, you have shows coming up abroad, man?
Mark Norman
Yeah. Yeah, I'm very excited. Going to London, going to Australia. I love those crowds.
Theo Von
You do?
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah. I mean, the flight's a. And you get homesick and the jet lag's a. A real cum guzzler, but I love Australia. I'm pumped. Do you ever go?
Theo Von
Yes, man. You have to. Where are you going over there? Let me see some of his dates here. You're going to Rej.
Mark Norman
I think that's Iceland, right?
Theo Von
Rick Yerberg, Ravic. A. Reykjavik. That's how they say it.
Mark Norman
Yeah, I think so.
Theo Von
Oh, Reykjavik, Yeah.
Mark Norman
It looks like somebody's texting with T9. Look at those vowels and consonants.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah.
Mark Norman
Jesus. That's like a drunk text.
Theo Von
Salford, United Kingdom. Cardiff, United Kingdom. Bristol, United Kingdom. Birmingham, London. Glasgow. You're going to. Oh, yeah, get a smash burger, lad.
Mark Norman
Yeah, get a Glasgow smile. That's where they cut you from here to here. Terrifying. Those Scots are really scary.
Theo Von
That's going to be incredible, dude. So you have those shows coming up. That's everywhere over there.
Mark Norman
Yeah, yeah. Doing the whole gamut, Just taking a train from top to bottom. It's kind of shitty because you don't get to see anything. You just do the show and then you leave. Yeah, but the crowds are great and it's. It's a fun time.
Theo Von
You have a couple days off.
Mark Norman
Couple days off, yeah. Not much, but I get so keyed up, I got to get back, so I just do the shows and I go home.
Theo Von
Well, it's hard. That's one of the things people don't realize. You go to these places, people are like, stay. Do this and that. But then, like, you do five, six shows, you're on the. You're on the road then for two weeks kind of, you know.
Mark Norman
Right.
Theo Von
Or, you know, you try to get into. And it's like, well, how long you want to be over? You're gonna be over there for three weeks, a month.
Mark Norman
I know. You start. I get that fomo, like, what's going on in America? You start looking at JD Vance. Memes are like, oh, I miss home. He's fat. Putting Cheeto dust on a. On a president.
Theo Von
They had one the other day that said he has up syndrome. This is a picture of J.D. vance has up.
Mark Norman
Oh, that's funny. Look at that guy. I think he loves it too, which is fun about him.
Theo Von
Oh, he has the best sense. I bet he could. I honestly, I should send him one of these and see what he thinks about it.
Mark Norman
Oh, I bet he's seen all of them. I would just scroll through those at dinner if I was him.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
And look, you can't do that with Obama. You know, that's a. That's a different meme, if you know what I mean. So it's good to have him be into it.
Theo Von
Yeah, I gotta see which ones he's into. I think I would like to try and get to interview him again because now he's in there, Right? I bet it's weird in there.
Mark Norman
Well, in the White House, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, you see Kid Rock over there dressed like a fire. Firecracker salesman.
Theo Von
Oh, he was dressed like a fireman at a glory hole.
Mark Norman
Yes. Yeah. Fire crotch.
Theo Von
Dude. He was dressed like the grand wizard of cracker Jack.
Mark Norman
Yeah, look at that. It looks like he's selling used cars in. In Bristol, Tennessee.
Theo Von
Oh, dude, definitely. Dude. This guy looks like he could fucking sign the constitution with his cock. Dude, this guy's unbelievable.
Mark Norman
John Hancock.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Look at this. That is a while. He's like a. He's a gay tree. It.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, brother. That's it. Dude, if this photo alone doesn't get the tiger king out of prison.
Mark Norman
Right?
Theo Von
What are we even doing?
Mark Norman
And this has got to scare the. The foreigners. If I was a Chinese motherfucker and I saw that, I go, we can't fuck with them. Look at this guy. He's like. Like an av.
Theo Von
Yeah, they're like, we made that shirt, but we didn't know he'd wear it like that.
Mark Norman
You think Zalinsky sees that and he's like, I really didn't dress up. Holy. I dress like a ninja.
Theo Von
Yeah. Yeah. He's like, oh, I should have really showed up. He looks like the pilot for Malaysian Flight 370 or whatever.
Mark Norman
The one that went down. Yeah. Where'd even get that made? I mean, that's great.
Theo Von
The one that went down on Key west, bro. That's a. That thing landed on a. Yeah, well, the.
Mark Norman
The flights have been. I think they've picked it up a little bit, but we had some crazy flights for a while. Like, upside down and inside out. Yeah.
Theo Von
Trying to show all these people what it's all about. Dude, they had Run DMC flying one of the planes.
Mark Norman
Run di. But yeah, look at that upside. That's almost. It's like the movie flight with Denzel.
Theo Von
We ride here, dude. And you have to listen to DMX when you get out of that plane, Right? There's no way. The plane's upside down and now we have to exit. There's no way I don't put a fucking. I don't bounce a track on my phone right there, dude. I put run. I put on probably some dmx.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah.
Theo Von
As you walk out, what you really want. What you really want from a flight?
Mark Norman
I want some peanuts and an up. Upright plane. It's a wacky time.
Theo Von
There was something you had. I want to talk to you about a bunch of stuff. You have a new child.
Mark Norman
Yes. Yes. Not mine.
Theo Von
I can't.
Mark Norman
Matt Rife. He got it there.
Theo Von
Dude. Unreal. And a lot of people thought Matt Rife is that guy who's trying to live forever. Whatever.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah. Well, he's got that beautiful face. He's shiny. Oh, he looks new.
Theo Von
He looks very. Yeah, A lot of people thought that. That's Matt Rife. Brian Johnson.
Mark Norman
This guy. Why does the guy who lives forever have to be annoying? You know, you want. You want. The guy's gonna live forever. You'd like him to be fun.
Theo Von
I know. Dude, why couldn't the guy that lives.
Mark Norman
Forever be like John Daly? To live forever, you know?
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
Although he'll die tomorrow.
Theo Von
Well, especially because Hooters just went bankrupt, which is crazy.
Mark Norman
Damn.
Theo Von
He was keeping it in business.
Mark Norman
Dude, I bet. I bet. Yeah. That guy could house some wings, bro.
Theo Von
And he would walk in. It would always be empty. Restaurant chain Hooters goes bust and files for bankruptcy protection.
Mark Norman
What is this? The Asian version?
Theo Von
And there is a. And if you can't see on the YouTube, on the video right now, there is a picture of all Asian women.
Mark Norman
Oh.
Theo Von
In Hooters pit in Hooters attire. Where's that photo taken? Can you give me some information? Can you scroll up or down or something? There you go. Chinese waitresses dressed in orange shorts and T shirts cheer while welcoming the arriving guests at the Hooters restaurant in Beijing.
Mark Norman
Oh, damn. They're stealing everything from us.
Theo Von
They got it. Hooters is going bust. The US Restaurant chain known for chicken wings and it's skinny Hooters girls Wait staff outfits has filed for bankruptcy protection.
Mark Norman
Whoa.
Theo Von
HOA Restaurant Group file for the motion for chapter 11. It's the latest legacy restaurant chain of running into financial trouble amid high food and labor prices. Well, is that really why?
Mark Norman
Yeah. I saw a couple of porkers in there on the last few years.
Theo Von
Yeah. Let's just say that they got probably so many articles saying that they couldn't hire good tits in there anymore.
Mark Norman
Right, Right. You got to be inclusive.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
So you got to get the wheelchair hooter. You got to get the downsy hooter.
Theo Von
Yeah. You got to get an actual owl in there. It's like, sure. What are we doing?
Mark Norman
Yeah, it's. It's a tough time. It. It's the end of an era, but we still got twin peaks. Ooh. Just a sleeper that they just kept low and didn't talk and now they're still around.
Theo Von
Yeah, that's like the Utah tits. Those tits are clean over there.
Mark Norman
And they're like the Kieran Culkin.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
McCully's gone. He was hot for a while, but now Kieran's taking over. We gotta go to Beijing.
Theo Von
God.
Mark Norman
Dude, I gotta be honest. I never felt comfortable to Hooters. Like, I like tits, I like wings. But I felt weird. It's just some. Some girl named Stacy who's trying to make a few bucks. And I'm like, can I look at her? Can I not look at her? What would I do here?
Theo Von
A lot of them are like, I'm a model. And it's like, all right. Like, what are you, you know, Will you model those sodas over here for me? Like, not in a bad way, but it's like, look, I want to support your modeling. I will tip a little bit extra.
Mark Norman
Sure.
Theo Von
But we want to eat, too. I don't want to.
Mark Norman
Yes, yes. And then am I supposed to ogle you? Am I a creep? I never know what to do, Right?
Theo Von
Are you just a waitress? Are you?
Mark Norman
Yeah, it was a gray area.
Theo Von
If I have you sign my 11 year old son's back with a Sharpie.
Mark Norman
Right, right.
Theo Von
Sick dad or whatever.
Mark Norman
Exactly. And then do I tip you by putting the money in your G string, you know, like. Like a strip club. At least, you know, we're all here to see tits and ass. Everybody's on board.
Theo Von
Right. Hooters was this vague thing where like, hey, while you're a pervert, order like, right, let's get some protein in you.
Mark Norman
And then if you go. Sometimes you go with a girl. Like, you'd be at a work, work lunch and the whole gang would go. And you're like, I got this lady here. She's in HR and she's fat. Now we got the hot blonde. The whole thing is awkward.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
And then you try to make it equal. You're like, oh, well, they should have a place called Nuts that we could take you. Shelly, you know, she's like, I'm good.
Theo Von
Yeah. And she's been losing her hair because she has, like, iron deficiency or something.
Mark Norman
Anemia.
Theo Von
Oh, that'll get you.
Mark Norman
That was my black X. Yeah, dude.
Theo Von
Hooters are shutting down. John Daly is going to have nowhere because, you know, he. He used to live in a Hooters. He lived in a. I could see that. Didn't John Daly live in a Hooters? Bring that up.
Mark Norman
No way. I thought you were joking. That's amazing.
Theo Von
John Gruden had an office, apparently, at Hooters headquarters, and John Daly had a special sleeping room in there.
Mark Norman
Shut the up.
Theo Von
Where'd they hear that? Oh, on the most recent episode of Theob On's this past weekend podcast. So. Hold on.
Mark Norman
You're your own reference.
Theo Von
Hey, dude. This is where we are. Dude, I saw John Daly overdose on gym one night and had to get carried out of a restaurant. Not even a bar.
Mark Norman
Hell, yeah.
Theo Von
That's awesome, man.
Mark Norman
He's like a superhero, this guy.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, he's. Dude, he's definitely him. Kid Rock. Now we have a superhero.
Mark Norman
Yep.
Theo Von
We have our Avengers.
Mark Norman
Dude. Yes. We need some more in there.
Theo Von
We need a good woman in there.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah, yeah. Who's a fun woman?
Theo Von
Oh, I know who. That lady that cooks and that said the N word. What's her name?
Mark Norman
Oh, Paula Dean. Yeah, that's a good one. Boy, there's gonna be a lot of N word in that kitchen.
Theo Von
Oh, dude, look.
Mark Norman
Dude, maybe we should throw a black guy in just to even it out a little bit.
Theo Von
Yes. And to keep her on her toes.
Mark Norman
Yeah, right, right.
Theo Von
Who do we get in there?
Mark Norman
We need a good black maybe. Oh, hold on. Kanye. That'll really shake things up.
Theo Von
Yeah. Now we're talking.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah. So he'll be. He'll be wearing the clan hood ironically.
Theo Von
But now it's their clan hood, so it's like, what do we. What do whites do now that there's. I don't want to say. This is cultural appropriation.
Mark Norman
I mean, did FUBU make that? I mean, this. That's our thing.
Theo Von
Yeah. I mean, I definitely. This is.
Mark Norman
I mean, it's so weird because Elon's trying to tell everybody, hey, I'm not a Nazi. And he's like, no, no, I am a Nazi. Yeah.
Theo Von
Oh, it's so hard these days to figure out if you're a Nazi or not. It is fucking impossible.
Mark Norman
I mean, did you ever think you'd see this many swastikas in 2020 if the whole world's gone batshit?
Theo Von
No. And they're not even pointed. You don't even know who they're pointing. Like, it's like, there's liberal people using swastikas because they.
Mark Norman
They're angry.
Theo Von
Yes.
Mark Norman
At Tesla.
Theo Von
Yes.
Mark Norman
But now you're drawing swastika. So these poor Jews are like, all right, well, that's. That means fuck me. I know you're mad at that guy, but what about me?
Theo Von
But then you also have people saying that. That American Israel are Swastika. They're using it, promoting them, because they're killing the Palestinians. So you're saying that they're the fat. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, you guys are the new Germany. They're saying that Israel is the new Germany.
Mark Norman
Oh, geez. This is too much.
Theo Von
That's what I'm saying.
Mark Norman
There's, it's just, it's so many layers.
Theo Von
Yeah. It's, it's like, what happened to a fucking. The business transaction of a glory hole, dude.
Mark Norman
Exactly. You know, I mean, we're buying Greenland, Gulf of America. Canada's mad at us. Beyonce's doing country. Everything's topsy turvy. Alec Baldwin shot a lady. I mean, I can't keep up with all the shit. It's all twisted.
Theo Von
But at the same time. Is it the most exciting? Excite. It's, it's exciting.
Mark Norman
It is, it is. It's the best of time and the worst of time. But you could open X and you're just like, holy, my ass. This is crazy.
Theo Von
Yeah. Yeah, dude.
Mark Norman
And that's, Yeah, X is like a portal to, like, crazy town.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
You're just like, oh, that's a bear attack. Race. Race riot.
Theo Von
Race riot. Black kids beat up another white kid at school.
Mark Norman
Right?
Theo Von
Not a hate crime.
Mark Norman
Right.
Theo Von
Just a tweet.
Mark Norman
Just a tweet.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
And then there's like, crazy tit lady. And it says, don't open this if you're alone. And I always open it. I even have to. I'm at the library. I'm like, I gotta do it. I can't resist that.
Theo Von
It's like 10 reasons why apples are killing your body right now. Yes.
Mark Norman
And you're like, you got me, clickbait.
Theo Von
Yeah. Huh?
Mark Norman
Did you see that Bill Burr thing where he yelled at the reporter? Oh, pull this up if you can. I mean, this was so cool. This is why I love the love Bill. He's on a red carpet for some thing, and a reporter's, like, trying to get him to say controversial shit, and he calls him out. I'm not going to just have some controversial moments so you can get clicks. I'm not doing that. I mean, I'm here to, For Conan. I'm not, I'm not doing all of this. What are you gonna bring up next, the Middle East? I, I, I went to summer school. Three out of four years in high school. I'm not qualified to talk about this. I was just complete warming. You said about Elon that he was ruining Earth. I saw on The View. You're critical of him. What do you think of all the boycotts, like, even the violence? I don't watch the news. I don't watch the news. I have no idea what's going on. I watch Instagram. I watch people wipe out on motorcycles. I watch lions and hyenas fight each other. This is the things that I do. And I don't think you should be asking a comedian. You're a chart of current events. No, no, that's. That's weak. That's you guys passing the buck. You guys need to have balls again, which you don't. You guys always goes, should we be thinking this? You guys present stuff like that. You guys used to have balls. You need to get your balls back. And it's not my job. I am a dancing clown. But yeah, it's so cool because he's like, you're trying to get me to say, so you can get clicks. Yeah. You guys report. Yeah, stop putting it all on me. I can get in trouble now and go viral for some ignorant. I said, yeah, get out of here, dude.
Theo Von
That's a great point. Yeah, it has. It's definitely become crazy now. It's like. But it's because people are afraid to speak up. Because I think all those people feel like they'll probably lose their jobs. I think a lot of them are just caught in this old system with, like, if I say anything that's truthful. That's why I think, why a lot of, like, you even see, like, Candace Owens, you see a lot of comedians, podcasters, like, people are listening to them. At least they, they're trying to figure out, or they're talking about things as earnestly as they think they can.
Mark Norman
Yeah, well, we're so divided now that if you say this opinion, the other side attacks you. If you say that opinion, that side attacks you. So the, the, the newspapers want to sell clicks or whatever, so they're just like, we'll go down the middle. We got to keep everybody. You say the fucked up shit and we'll report about it. Yeah, it's. It's, it's gross.
Theo Von
It's a great point. He said, it's passing the buck. Where's the fucking. How was it that, like, even during the first year of, like, the Gaza thing, that not one mainstream network guy was like, hey, this seems kind of up.
Mark Norman
Is that right? I. I thought people were talking. I guess it's mostly Internet people.
Theo Von
Yeah, I think it was more Internet people, but it was kind of like, hey, this, you know, or even just any side. Like let's get one interview from a Palestinian guy.
Mark Norman
Oh yeah, yeah, true.
Theo Von
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Mark Norman
Yeah, I'm working on a. Like, a web series. I'm trying to sell it, but it's. It's called Page to Stage and Age to Stage. Yeah. Like, you come up with a bit idea, and then you go up at Zany's and work it out, and it's clunky. Then you work it out again and again and again, and then eventually you crack it, and now you're doing it at an arena. That's the show. So you. It shows the comic thinking of a bit and then struggling with it and then eventually figuring it out and killing.
Theo Von
With it and, like, in between. Oh, that's an example of it right there.
Mark Norman
Yeah, we've done a couple episodes already, and this is episode one. We just put out episode two. Yeah. Hey, is this stupid? I'm bombing all day long here. God, I hope this wasn't an expensive ticket.
Theo Von
Oh, this is great, man.
Mark Norman
Thanks. I can't believe this has never been done. Got a dumb idea. That's how come comedy starts. You take it on stage, it bombs, and you do it again. Too far. All right, all right, we'll work on that. Oh, God, we're supposed to be there.
Theo Von
What else do you do here? You, like, break. You break down the bit with other friends. Yeah, work on it.
Mark Norman
Exactly. Like me and Sam Morrell or Chris DiStefano. We'll sit at the cellar and chop it up and try to figure out where the funny is and what angle to go with.
Theo Von
You guys have so many just artisans up there.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah. It's like. It's comedy college over there.
Theo Von
Chefs. You guys have chefs?
Mark Norman
Yes. Yes, exactly.
Theo Von
We're down here selling Hooters to people.
Mark Norman
Yeah. But this is fun of this, Shane. This is fun as hell, though. I love Nashville. I mean, you got the Zany's. Just open another room. I mean, you guys are cooking.
Theo Von
Yeah, I've been in there. That lab over there. It's great.
Mark Norman
Great room. So, yeah, this and each episode will be a different car. I do the first one, then it'll be, you know, Ronnie Chang and Michelle Wolf. And.
Theo Von
Yeah, so the show is gonna be. It's just different examples of that.
Mark Norman
Yeah, yeah. With different. Each one is a different comic working on a bit, so you could do one if you wanted or whoever. And, yeah, I want to start working.
Theo Von
On some new stuff, man. I've been writing a lot of stuff. I just have to get. Start getting on stage. I think I'll go down to Austin probably to work on It.
Mark Norman
Oh, I like that. I mean, that mothership. You can't beat that room.
Theo Von
Well, just. Just to have this. And also there's other rooms right around there. Brian Redband has a room right there.
Mark Norman
The Creek.
Theo Von
Yeah, they have a one room there. It's called like Skinny or whatever. You know what it's called. But it's like they have Tony's room. Wait at it. But they have a lot of like. Yeah, it's like, like it's like autistic cat or whatever.
Mark Norman
Right, right, right. Edward Jones.
Theo Von
Yeah, they have everything there. Like, save the, like, dude, Things there are so progressive but also way. It's like I've seen like save the N words there and you're like, that does not seem.
Mark Norman
No, no.
Theo Von
Like, it's like. Ray, it's like racist and progressive.
Mark Norman
Yeah, it's like Austin, but bad message. Yeah. Bad title.
Theo Von
Yeah, it's like Save the whales, but.
Mark Norman
You'Re talking about fat people.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
No, but they. Yeah. I mean, Austin's fun because when you're working on new, you got to be able to bounce around. You can't just do one set every now and then.
Theo Von
I agree. And it's even a lot of times when you're working on new stuff for. For me, it's like that third time you do it in a night, even if you don't even want to do it.
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
Nothing comes out of it, but it's still just burning that. Like every time you cook it. You just cook it and it's like, so the next time will be good.
Mark Norman
Right percent you know they say when you lift weights, the one where you're like, and you can't get it up, that's the one that matters the most. And it's the same with comedy, I think when you're working on that new one and you don't want to say it and it's not really working, that's when you find it, when you just push it.
Theo Von
Yeah. Yeah. Dude, I have a buddy that just started comedy last week.
Mark Norman
No way.
Theo Von
Friend of mine from AA just started.
Mark Norman
Aren't you glad those days? I would hate to just start now. I mean, we're. We're 20. 20 years in or whatever the. I used to watch you at open mics at fucking Lucy's Surfer bar in New Orleans, dude. Yeah, you were the guy. You had a hot girlfriend. You had some money and a cool haircut.
Theo Von
I didn't. Well, I had. I did have a very cute girlfriend.
Mark Norman
Oh, I still remember her.
Theo Von
God, she was pretty, wasn't she?
Mark Norman
I think about her all the time.
Theo Von
I'll be honest. I think about her a lot.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Yeah, that was. That was really something. No one had a hot girlfriend back then. We were all losers in Louisiana armor walking by.
Theo Von
Like some of the Saints players and they're all said, we're going to steal your girlfriend. Girlfriend.
Mark Norman
That sounds about right. That's what they do.
Theo Von
And they did. That's the crazy part. No, I don't know. But yeah, dude. God, bro. When we went to Lucy's, that was fun, dude.
Mark Norman
That was not a care in the world. There was no phones. There was no. We got to get a clip. There was no video. It was just. Just for the love of the game.
Theo Von
And they had all kind of like. Dane F. Remember him?
Mark Norman
Yeah, of course. Funny guy.
Theo Von
And they made. He was in that documentary. Did you see that?
Mark Norman
No. What?
Theo Von
Doc, I don't know if he's okay with talking about this, but Bring it up. Dane. Foshe.
Mark Norman
I love those old Louisiana names. Foshe, Thibodeau, Landry. Yeah, it was like, remember Sean Patton was down there? Oh, yeah, there he is. Good old Dane. I looked up to him too, when I started.
Theo Von
Oh, dude. Same bro. And also one of the nicest guys.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah. Great guy. And. And he was really like. He welcomed everybody. Hey, we're doing comedy. Good to have you. And that was the first time I had like a group, like a clique.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
Felt like a culture, dude.
Theo Von
Yeah. Dane's an awesome guy and. But they had a doc. He was part of a very important docu. No, it's called Our Friend. What is it? Our Friend is a 2019American biographical drama film directed by Gabriella Cal Perthwaite and written by Brad Inglesby, based on Matthew Teague's 2015 Esquire article, the Friend Love is not a big enough word.
Mark Norman
Geez. Did Jason Siegel, Dakota Johnson, Casey Affleck. Holy. How did I not know about. This is huge.
Theo Von
And it's based on one of the. I think the main character is based on him. Scroll some.
Mark Norman
Oh, God. Are you gonna tell me he's got some disease?
Theo Von
In a flashback to 2000, Matt, a journalist, and Nicola, theater performer living New Orleans. She introduces Matt to Dane, a friend from college working as a camera operator who dreams of becoming a stand up comic.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah. You go.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
Wow.
Theo Von
Dude. Yeah, dude. This is a very. This is a cool thing to watch.
Mark Norman
Good for him. Yeah. Comedy's so big right now. I mean, you're talking to presidents. Vice President Bernie Sanders. It's. It's Weird how intertwined it all is.
Theo Von
Well, I think everything's getting kind of bizarre now.
Mark Norman
You know, 100.
Theo Von
Everything is getting, like, turning into the WWE.
Mark Norman
Yes.
Theo Von
Been saying this for years. It's like, yeah, you can have, like, you can literally. Next month you could have Wolf Blitzer fighting that. Who was that? Like, save the Whales? Like, kind of like kid or whatever that was like, representing us.
Mark Norman
David Hogg.
Theo Von
No, you are not. It was a woman. More woman than.
Mark Norman
More woman.
Theo Von
You are not speaking for us.
Mark Norman
Oh, Greta Thunberg.
Theo Von
Greta Thunberg.
Mark Norman
What happened to her, by the way? She jumped ship.
Theo Von
Well, she started. She started saying stuff that liberals didn't agree. She started like, oh, she was speaking out for Palestine. And now they're like, ah, her.
Mark Norman
Oh, really? Well, what about the environment? I thought that was her. She would take a steamboat from Sweden to yell at somebody on a. On a. On a soapbox would.
Theo Von
The second she wore that Palestinian garb, they're like, n. She doesn't even make any sense anymore.
Mark Norman
Oh, damn. Wow. How old is she now? Has she got an only fans?
Theo Von
I don't.
Mark Norman
Oh, 22. All right. She's of age.
Theo Von
Oh, we're going to hell. But hey, we're going together, dude.
Mark Norman
She got a solar powered vibrator.
Theo Von
I remember.
Mark Norman
Check out my carbon foot fetish.
Theo Von
This is crazy, bro. Are you always this funny? This is the mo. You've changed my life today, dude.
Mark Norman
Oh, well, I'm hungover. I'm on no sleep. So I'm just. I'm riding off gay fumes here. No sleep. Tell Brooklyn.
Theo Von
No. Do you remember the other comics? They had Wild Bill? Remember Wild Bill?
Mark Norman
Oh, Wild Bill Dykes.
Theo Von
Wild Bill Dykes.
Mark Norman
He was on some TV show I like Bar Rescue, some like that. And that was. I was like, he's been on tv. Same with you. I was like, you've been on tv. I couldn't believe it.
Theo Von
Wild Bill. Dykes, dude. A legend, dude.
Mark Norman
But that's the thing. You had to wait to get tapped to get on tv, and you got six seconds on some weird show, and now we got the Internet, so we can just put it all out there.
Theo Von
Yeah. Now you can just be like, hey, I'm an alcoholic, and just tell people straight up.
Mark Norman
Exactly.
Theo Von
And a lot of comedians in New Orleans were just alcoholics that were trying to stay away from their families or wives at night. 100%, let's say that factually, no judgment. I didn't have a wife or anything at that time. But you'd see guys coming in, you know, have A couple in their car.
Mark Norman
Yes, yes, exactly. We were all. I was terrified. I had stage fright like a motherfucker.
Theo Von
We all had stare. We all had stage fright and salt poisoning from living in Louisiana. The gout capital.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah, a lot of sodium.
Theo Von
Yeah, they had that one comic, Black Gout, or whatever his name was. He was just like kind of an older black guy.
Mark Norman
Yeah, well, the black comics all had, like, Chicken Fry. Cornbread. Cornbread. Red Bean.
Theo Von
Red Bean, yeah. Yep.
Mark Norman
They all had cool names. Salami Rob. Yeah, they were fun. Gumbo Jones.
Theo Von
Spicy Child Evasion.
Mark Norman
Sickle Cell.
Theo Von
Sickle Cell.
Mark Norman
Will Johnson. Yeah, those are. Those are wild times. And we all got along.
Theo Von
Oh, it was so much fun.
Mark Norman
So much fun.
Theo Von
T Ray, remember him? He was a pro when we started.
Mark Norman
That dude was a legend in Louisiana.
Theo Von
He was a legend, dude.
Mark Norman
First comic I ever saw. Remember the funny bone in Baton Rouge? Yes, they had a funny bone. I saw Chris Porter there in, like, 2002 or something, and he was killing. I still remember his act. He had a bit about. He's like smoking and drinking, they go together. You can drink without smoking, but you can't smoke without drinking. It's kind of like you can take a piss without. But you can't without pissing. And I was like. Blew my mind.
Theo Von
Where are we?
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
God, dude. Yeah. Chris Porter. And that's when he got on to last comic, too.
Mark Norman
Yes, yes.
Theo Von
Remember? And that's when kind of the handicapped era started. On last comic with Josh Blue, who was hilarious, who made. Joshua was one of the best at having a disability, but also being a comedian. Right?
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
But I think it definitely launched a wave of, you know. And it kind of ended with that guy who faked having cancer for Ellen or whatever.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah, yeah. That was bad.
Theo Von
That was bad chocolate cancer. What was that guy's name? Comedian. What was that guy's name?
Mark Norman
I think it was Bob Melanoma.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, I think it was. Oh, I think it was Jarvis. Malignant.
Mark Norman
That's crazy. Yeah, he. Colon cancer. Powell.
Theo Von
But benign. Johnson.
Mark Norman
You better get that lump checked out, Peter. But yeah, he. Oh, that. I feel bad calling him out, but he. He got kind of called out and then he got an HBO special. Then it all just went to.
Theo Von
Yeah, let's just click on that right there. Whatever happened to the comedian that. Quincy Jones was his name Jones graduated from. On August 25, Jones was diagnosed with stage four mesothelioma and given one year to live. He began receiving treatment with chemo. Friends set up a Kickstarter for him. To produce a stand up comedy special starring Jones. His story went viral after he appeared on Ellen after he raised $50,000.
Mark Norman
Wow.
Theo Von
That's incredible. Jones filmed a comedy special at the T. Terragram Ballroom in la. Title Burning the Light. That's a great name for it too.
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
Whatever happened after that? Anything go to that Reddit page? Then let's get some real info.
Mark Norman
Well, it's a weird thing when you tell me you have cancer because then they get mad that you're alive. That's a weird place to be in life. Oh, you're still alive. You.
Theo Von
Yeah, we had a guy like that who had done a couple fundraisers or whatever, and he was still alive. And people would get so pissed at him.
Mark Norman
Yeah, we gave you money. We did a GoFundMe. And you're supposed to be deaf.
Theo Von
Yeah, get in the coffin.
Mark Norman
Exactly.
Theo Von
Like. Like, why is he gay? Just because he lied about that.
Mark Norman
Yeah, that's true. But I remember back then I was like, oh my God, I wish I got cancer because it was so hard to get a special or on tv.
Theo Von
Totally. I was like, oh, every mole I had, I was like, check this.
Mark Norman
Yeah, put me in the sun and some radiation on my ass. I'll start smoking.
Theo Von
I would put little fake moles in my arm when I went on stage. But whatever happened, though, this is curious. He may have just gotten better, which probably made it also uncomfortable for him. Is there any information. Can you scroll up or down or something? Something.
Mark Norman
I hope he got better. Six years old. It just says that he's still active. Oh, tough.
Theo Von
That's tough. Dude, you got to get into remission.
Mark Norman
He's like the Magic Johnson of cancer. He won't die. That aids. What happened? We used to be so scared of aids. And Magic Johnson is kicking.
Theo Von
He beat AIDS so hard. I will tell a story, though. I've told this before, but please. I was at a restaurant where someone was choking to death, right? And Magic Johnson was there. So everybody, they. It was like a Chinese restaurant kind of place. And so they brought out a wall. They brought out a little one of those Chinese walls they fold up. It's like.
Mark Norman
Ah, a great wall.
Theo Von
Yeah, it's like a very great wall, but it's short.
Mark Norman
I know those. Yeah, you could change behind them or whatever.
Theo Von
Yes, change behind them real quick. They brought that out and started doing CPR on the guy behind the wall. And we're all just sitting there and it's kind of like a nice place. We're all eating, but everybody stopped eating because it's like you can't eat while a guy is like choking.
Mark Norman
Of course, of course.
Theo Von
And they're doing CPR and on him. So then everybody starts kind of looking at Magic Johnson, like, when do we eat?
Mark Norman
Right?
Theo Von
He became somehow like the, like the liaison of feasting or whatever they call it in the like Greek mythology or whatever. And so everybody's like watching him and you can tell he starts to feel this pressure. When do we eat? And they get the guy back, right?
Mark Norman
Oh, thank God.
Theo Von
So you can hear him. He starts coughing. Everybody claps, right? So everybody takes one bite. And then something happened immediately. And the guy coded. The guy died right there.
Mark Norman
Shut up.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
Holy.
Theo Von
Guy died.
Mark Norman
Now what do you do with the food? Do you finish it?
Theo Von
We waited like seven or eight minutes and then we ate as quiet as we've ever eaten.
Mark Norman
Oh man, that's awkward. They gotta wheel them out on the gurney and you got a mouthful of General so.
Theo Von
Oh, you chew so quietly, dude. Oh, dude. And if your wife doesn't salute you like that when you eat General Cell, you're not a. You're not a true American Asian.
Mark Norman
Yeah, she'll get a Kung Pao.
Theo Von
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, dude. I'll.
Mark Norman
Yeah, speaking. You see these Yankee bats, by the way?
Theo Von
Oh, I've heard about this.
Mark Norman
This is pretty. I want to get your take on these bats. I don't know where the Yankees have. Their bats are fat as. Oh, come on.
Theo Von
Nuh. That's what they're using now, the torpedo bat.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Oh yeah, they. They plump them up a little.
Theo Von
Like in the middle.
Mark Norman
Yeah, like a weird dick. That girthy in the middle and then cones out.
Theo Von
Well, that seems weird because wouldn't the angle of the bat then affect which direction you're hitting the ball even?
Mark Norman
Yeah, I think. But they engineered it perfectly. Where it just sails it. It works every time.
Theo Von
During spring training, someone in the organization for the Yankees had mentioned Nikki, that the team's analytics department had counseled players on where pitches tended to strike their bats. And with subsequent buy in from the some of the players bats have been designed around that information. And the hours before the Yankees home game against the brewers that day, K, who is the Yankees play by play man, told the Y Network production staff about this, alerting them so they could look for an opportunity to highlight the equipment. After the Yankees club four homers in the first inning, a camera zoomed in on Jay Chisholm's bat. In the second inning, you see the shape of Chisholm's Bat K said on air it's got a big barrel on it. Wow. And it does. It has a look towards like the one part. Like a snake digesting something a bit.
Mark Norman
Yes, yes, exactly.
Theo Von
Wow. And how are the Yankees doing so far? Was that just one good game to start off?
Mark Norman
No, they're killing it. I mean, you got four homers in the first inning. I mean, they're like they're on fire. Which they were already a good team, but now they got this secret weapon.
Theo Von
Oh, they're four and two right now, gang. Starting off big.
Mark Norman
Okay. Still no Otani. That guy's incredible.
Theo Von
Oh, he's so good, man. Yeah. That's interesting how, like, are they allowed to just change their bats like that? Can you look at why they're allowed to do that?
Mark Norman
I think it's one of those airbud things. It's nothing. The rule book says you can't have a fat bat or whatever it is.
Theo Von
Yeah. The idea of the torpedo bat is to take a size format, say 34 inches and 32 ounces, and distribute the wood in a different shape than the trans traditional form to ensure the fattest part of the bat is located where the player makes the most contact. Wow.
Mark Norman
It's just a loophole. They found a loophole that's still legal. It's the same amount of wood, but they just put it in different spots of the bat.
Theo Von
The torpedo bat moves some of the mass on the end of the bat about 6 to 7 inches lower, giving it a bow bowling pin shape with a much thinner end. The benefits for those who like swinging with it and not everyone who has swung with it likes it, are twofold. Both are rooted in logic and physics. The first is that distributing more mass to the area of most frequent contact aligns with players swing patterns and provides greater impact when the bat strikes ball. The second benefit in theory is increased bat speed. Imagine a sledgehammer and a broomstick that both weigh 32 ounces. The sledgehammer's weight is almost all at the end, whereas the broomstick is distributed evenly, which is easier to swing fast. The broomstick, of course. So they're saying that it's slower to swing the new one.
Mark Norman
Yeah, but it's got more impact.
Theo Von
By shedding some of the weight off the end of the torpedo bat and moving it towards the middle, hitters have found it swings very similarly to a traditional mod, but with slightly faster bat velocity.
Mark Norman
Huh. I haven't seen a bat like that since the wet market.
Theo Von
God. I know. Huh? Damn, that's interesting. I Wonder what other loopholes have I noticed? What other things? Well, there was a part where they allegedly deflated the balls some.
Mark Norman
Yeah, yeah. With the Patriots.
Theo Von
What else has kind of happened over the years?
Mark Norman
A lot of steroids.
Theo Von
Yeah, steroids was so big.
Mark Norman
I don't know if that's a loophole.
Theo Von
But, yeah, I'd love to talk to Barry Bonds. It'd be crazy.
Mark Norman
Oh, man, what a run he had.
Theo Von
I know.
Mark Norman
And he looked crazy, too. He was like a superhuman.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
Mark McGuire. Yeah, him too. You could see, it's like he's pink. He's like. He's got, like, ball skin on his forearms.
Theo Von
Dude, can you believe that? Women, like, used to not even be able to talk that much in that crazy.
Mark Norman
Those were the days.
Theo Von
But can you even imagine, like, you're at dinner and a guy comes up to talk, and you talk to him. Your wife tries to say something.
Mark Norman
You're like, honey, exactly.
Theo Von
Let the. Let the guy. Let us do business here.
Mark Norman
Well, women really got screwed because, like, they couldn't really make a lot of money back then, so they needed a guy who had a house and a car and a job. So, like, they had to be nice and play ball. That's gotta suck.
Theo Von
You imagine the resentment built up in a lot of those women?
Mark Norman
Oh, of course.
Theo Von
That's why a lot of third generation women are squirters, I think, because it's all that resentment built up.
Mark Norman
That's true. Yeah. It all comes out. That's. That's. That's. What do you call that? Oh, what's the word when they can't vote? Oh, that's suppression. No, well, it does. A word where they can't vote.
Theo Von
We'll get it right. Voter suppression, something like that.
Mark Norman
Suffrage. Suffrage.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
Women's suffrage.
Theo Von
That's women's suffrage.
Mark Norman
Yes.
Theo Von
Yeah, it's a streamline, brother. Yeah, that is a damn. Damn. Huh?
Mark Norman
You ever got a squirt from a lady?
Theo Von
I mean, I. Oh, I knew a gal that could.
Mark Norman
Oh, super soak.
Theo Von
She. No, but she was just articulate.
Mark Norman
Oh, damn. Like, she could.
Theo Von
Oh, she could autograph a curtain. I knew a girl definitely, that could wash your cat's eyes before you could blink them.
Mark Norman
It was like those. The windshield wipe squirter. You know, you clean the window.
Theo Von
Oh, dude.
Mark Norman
Yeah, Yeah, I had a lady. It was like a. Like a fire hydrant in a black neighborhood. I mean, she would just stand up and it would gush. It was a great time. I loved it. I mean, my bed was ruined.
Theo Von
Oh, dude. And there's A couple young sisters double dutching in it. That's the craziest part.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah, yeah. Love a squirt. Because with a female orgasm, there's not really a lot of proof, right? So it's nice to get some results.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah. That's David Slopper Field, homie. That thing is crazy, bro. Those things get going.
Mark Norman
Yeah, Squirt and Ernie.
Theo Von
And sometimes you can turn them off.
Mark Norman
No, no.
Theo Von
Sometimes a lot of Asians, bro. Sesame Street.
Mark Norman
Yeah, yeah. Tickle me Elmo. But sometimes you're like, enough. You got to put a cork in there or an old rag.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, dude, it's crazy. Oh, bro, you'd have to put siding on your bed.
Mark Norman
You need a gutter on the side of your bed just to get some runoff. You got to clean the leaves out every year. But still.
Theo Von
Bro, that. Yeah, you get somebody that's a real galosh. Or you'd have to. Somebody like, damn, are you from Maine or something? What's even going on here?
Mark Norman
Yeah, you need rain boots.
Theo Von
It was crazy. Oh, you'd have to use that stuff that you would use on your car. It was like, rain X. Remember that?
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah, dude.
Theo Von
When rain X came out, we got high. Or, like, because we'd seen commercials that would, like, make the. The rain bead off the window.
Mark Norman
Yes, exactly.
Theo Von
So we'd rain X our cars, get stoned, drive in the rain and watch it beat off.
Mark Norman
We'd be like, no, that's a good time.
Theo Von
Those are the good times, dude.
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
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Mark Norman
You want kids?
Theo Von
Yeah, I gotta get a kid.
Mark Norman
I mean, hey, no pressure. I don't want to be one of those kid guys. You're like, you got to do it. Change your life.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
Super meaningful. I'm not. Not doing that. I'm just saying you'd be a good dad.
Theo Von
Thanks, dude. I appreciate it. I think, yeah, I got to change some. A little bit of, like, some of my patterns, kind of.
Mark Norman
Well, we all have some up tendencies and all that, but did you have.
Theo Von
Like, how did you change your tendencies to meet. To meet a woman? And I know you have a child now, but how did you change your tendencies? Because you were kind of like a rostabout man, huh?
Mark Norman
Sure. Man about town. I like to paint it red, but I don't know, I just was getting older and I knew I wanted kids. And then you start doing the math. You're like, all right, if I have a kid at 50, by the time he's 10, I'll be 60. You had an old dad.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
You know, it's tough on a kid.
Theo Von
It's. Oh, it's tough.
Mark Norman
So. And I heard Bill Burr say not to bring him up again, but he was like, I should have done this 10 years earlier. And I heard that, and I was like, oh, maybe I should do it now.
Theo Von
And he's the truth.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Theo Von
So the average age of new fathers in the United States has risen from 30.9. Risen to 30.9 years, a significant increase from 27.4 years in 1972. Wow. Actually, I thought it'd be higher, so it's going up. So it's almost 31 years right now. Yeah.
Mark Norman
I live in New York. People are having kids at fucking 45. Like, Schultz just had a kid. He's 41.
Theo Von
Is he?
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
He looks great.
Mark Norman
Oh, he's a. He's a sexy, sexy man.
Theo Von
Definitely.
Mark Norman
He looks like an old bull fighter or something.
Theo Von
Oh, he definitely looks like the last matador.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Look at that stache and the hair.
Theo Von
He looks like definitely the guy that'll turn a triple play at a glory hole, you know?
Mark Norman
Yeah, he looks like a. Like a French villain and.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, he does, dude. Oh, he's always. Definitely had that very, like America's favorite spice trader guy.
Mark Norman
Right, right. Like he sells knives in Bangladesh.
Theo Von
Yeah, he definitely looks like a guy that'll sell you a secret.
Mark Norman
Yes, for sure. Definitely.
Theo Von
He's a unique guy.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Theo Von
He's a very unique guy. Dude. His new special, I think is the best looking comedy special I've seen.
Mark Norman
He. Oh, yeah, it's. It's so beautiful. Like, the Beacon Theater is killer. And the way he starts it with that montage, like they get. You get choked up.
Theo Von
I thought it was really, really amazing. You have a child now, man.
Mark Norman
Yeah. It's crazy.
Theo Von
That's insane to see you right now and be talking to you for the past 40 minutes and then realize this guy has a human child.
Mark Norman
I mean, it'll get taken away at some point, but for now, let it ride.
Theo Von
God. Probably from ice or whatever.
Mark Norman
Yeah, yeah, there it is. Wow. Wow. What? Sad News source reported on that.
Theo Von
May planner gives birth to her first child with Mark Norman.
Mark Norman
Look at that fat little nugget there. It's got a bad hairline already.
Theo Von
Wow. Very much has that Kevin from the office look.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Yeah.
Theo Von
Wow. Your wife looks great. Even post birth right there.
Mark Norman
She killed it. Yeah, she looked good the whole time. And she did the old C sect. So the. The clam is intact.
Theo Von
Yeah. Fresh seafood.
Mark Norman
Yeah, yeah. Still oyster shucking, but yeah. You really. You really. You really get all mushy with the.
Theo Von
Thing being as cynical as comedians are. Right. What does cynical mean?
Mark Norman
Like negative and always looking at the bad, not the good. I think something like that, I think.
Theo Von
Well, I noticed for myself, it's hard for me sometimes. Or it used to be, for sure. And when, like something was really real, like a real moment, it was Hard for me to, like, experience it as a real moment.
Mark Norman
Sorry, who are you talking to here? Yeah, come on. I thought that was you, and I'm autism.
Theo Von
Yeah. And so was that kind of. Did that come into play at all? Do you notice that part of you come in and you almost have to stop it?
Mark Norman
Like. Yes, yes. But with the baby, you can't help it. Like, you're talking baby talk, and you're just, like, gushing with love, and you pour it right on them, and you feel it, and you go, it. I'm doing it anyway. I'm letting go. I'm gonna love this kid.
Theo Von
So it feels really real. So it's like super real feeling super real.
Mark Norman
I mean, that came out of your ball bag and her stomach. I mean, the whole thing is. It's surreal that you made this thing.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
And it's gonna grow up and have a personality and, you know, weird addictions and. And, you know, thoughts on races, and that's all going to form right there in his little noggin. God, it's fascinating.
Theo Von
Does it create a new relationship with your wife? Like, is there now some. Like, because I've heard Schultz say that, like, you know, you now, like, he would have times where he would call his wife to check on the baby and not be checking on her kind of. And so, like, he said, just there were little dynamics like that that he started to notice. Where does it make, like, a new relationship with you and your wife? Does things still seem the same? Does it that or everything's just normal? Like, any thoughts on any of that?
Mark Norman
It's super different. Like, you. The baby becomes the priority, so you start to forget about each other. You know, it just becomes like, all right, I'll take them for this moment. You take them for that moment. You feed them. Did you. Did you put them down? How's that going? So it turns into scheduling and very, like, calculated almost. So you got to stay lovey. You got to stay a couple. And so it's kind of like the two of you versus the baby, and you become a team. But you got to make the team fun. You can't just go all in on logistics. You got to still be cuddly and sexy and all that and fun.
Theo Von
And. Is it hard? How long do you have to wait before you can be sexually active with your spouse?
Mark Norman
I think it was six weeks. So we did, like, six weeks and a day before I went and I jizzed in her on accident. I was like, what am I doing? I'm an idiot. This is how the Jackson 5 started, you know, why would you do. I was like. I was. I had been so long that I lasted like eight seconds and I couldn't pull out. It felt good at that warm meat pocket.
Theo Von
So, dude, you knew what just happened there.
Mark Norman
I know, I know, I'm an idiot. But I hope. Hopefully she's barren at this point.
Theo Von
But that's like go. It's like, like walking out of a burning building, right?
Mark Norman
And going into another one and.
Theo Von
Yeah, hold on.
Mark Norman
And then say leaving tower one and going in tower two.
Theo Von
Yeah. And it says gas above the door. And you go in there, blaze up a smoke.
Mark Norman
I know, I couldn't help it. And she was like, what the are you doing? And I was like, you're right, you're right.
Theo Von
So do you think you did that? Is it almost. Was it territorial or you just partying?
Mark Norman
I think I was partying. I let loose too much. I. I'm an idiot, but I'm. I'm just lucky we had a kid the normal way, the old fashioned way. Everyone else is doing the IVF and adopting and all that, so. Yeah, it's nice that these kids can swim.
Theo Von
Oh, that is nice, man. I worry about that. That someone had a baby out of their butt. Dude, you see that?
Mark Norman
No, no, bring that up an ass baby. That's tough.
Theo Von
Well, it's.
Mark Norman
That's some good sperm these days.
Theo Von
It's the only way to get into this country. It feels like anal birth. Let's look at them. That's on apple. Whoa, whoa, buddy.
Mark Norman
Hold on. Anyone else hard?
Theo Von
God, bro.
Mark Norman
Jesus.
Theo Von
Just the article.
Mark Norman
That was wild.
Theo Von
There is. There was something on there.
Mark Norman
Those are bands.
Theo Von
Oh, there are. They'll come around. Somebody will write the article.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Is that real?
Theo Von
Huh?
Mark Norman
Real?
Theo Von
It has to have had happened.
Mark Norman
Wow. I guess it just came out the wrong shoot, you know?
Theo Von
Yeah, the baby, a lot of them are working backwards. It's like.
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
Have you ever seen those pictures of those guys that get stuck in those tunnels? Like in Jews?
Mark Norman
Yeah, of course. But the baby, it just got off on the wrong exit. They don't have gps, you know?
Theo Von
Yeah, but they. It's like head towards the light.
Mark Norman
I guess so. Yeah. Avoid the boom boom and go with the. The clam clam.
Theo Von
Come on. God. Dude, that's crazy, man.
Mark Norman
That is crazy. It's weird how close they are. Isn't that weird? The butthole and the vagina, they're like an inch apart.
Theo Von
Put them further apart.
Mark Norman
What are we doing here? It's like Israel and Palestine. That's Two arch enemies living right next door to each other.
Theo Von
That's ridiculous, dude.
Mark Norman
And the Gaza Strip right in the middle.
Theo Von
What has speaking that. Has there been, like, a lot of turmoil in. Do you see a lot of turmoil in the state? In New York City?
Mark Norman
Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's crazy.
Theo Von
Is it really?
Mark Norman
It's real. I mean, Columbia University is a hotbed of controversy and they deported that guy, whatever his name, Muhammad Falafel Face and. Yeah, it's.
Theo Von
Yeah. And one of the food trucks went missing, too, ironically, the same day. Bring that guy up.
Mark Norman
Is that right?
Theo Von
I don't know.
Mark Norman
Oh, I didn't hear about the. The old PETA mobile.
Theo Von
After all the things that have been said. That's the one where you say, is that right?
Mark Norman
I mean, I believe it. That shawarma is missing.
Theo Von
Oh, dude. Yeah, dude.
Mark Norman
Swarms my heart.
Theo Von
Oh, schwarms my heart. How is that not a shirt or. I'm sure it's the name of a food truck.
Mark Norman
It's gotta be.
Theo Von
Yeah. What do we know about foreign college students targeted for deportation? Yeah. Which one did they have? The Trump administration has set off a legal and ethical firestorm by targeting international students at US Colleges for deportation, including some whom the government alleges participated in pro Palestinian protests or activities on campus.
Mark Norman
I will say, to be a Jewish guy around, this has gotta be awkward. Like, I feel like there's a lot of anti Semitism hurled at them and no one seems to give a shit. Like, if you make black comments, it's like, it's a bad national news. But I don't think anyone really gives a shit about the Jew feelings.
Theo Von
Yeah, well, I think you have to. I think you have to be able to separate. That's a good point.
Mark Norman
They don't get the. They don't get the. The oppression points that other groups get.
Theo Von
That's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point, man. Well, because I think that they've, from what I've learned, they've been like, had a tough time finding a territory to live in, right?
Mark Norman
Yes.
Theo Von
Like, historically that they've had a tough time finding a place to live in. Yeah, I think what the. What just hasn't helped has been the. In Gaza. It's like.
Mark Norman
Of course.
Theo Von
I think it's just made like. And then there's a lot of. I think people start looking then at like, ownership and oppressors. Right. And I think you have a lot of Jewish people that are super successful. They're good at being successful.
Mark Norman
The best. They own the weather, the Best.
Theo Von
Right.
Mark Norman
Got it all.
Theo Von
And so then I think it doesn't. That makes things like. I think that's where people take one bridge. Go from one thing and bridge to another.
Mark Norman
Yes, yes, exactly. And there's so much nuance, nuance here too, that people forget it's just good versus evil. But there's, there's complex going on here. It's a lot of layers. We want to just put black and white, but it's, it's true.
Theo Von
There's a lot of layers. It's hard to figure a lot of it out.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah.
Theo Von
Mahmoud Khalil. I think that's what you're talking about. A 30 year old Columbia University international affairs graduate student of Palestinian descent was arrested on March 8 when ICE agents appeared at his student apartment building. Can you even imagine that? I would think it was like one of those fraternity things they do in the morning or whatever.
Mark Norman
Yeah, yeah. Like a initiative where they spray a air horn on you or hit you with a fire extinguisher.
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like Sigma Alpha genocide or whatever. And they're taking you outside to tickle you until you piss gin or whatever. Khalil is married to an American citizen who's pregnant with their first child. The Trump administration accused Khalil, a Palestinian activist, of supporting Hamas and distributing pro Hamas propaganda, though it has provided no evidence to support this claim. Claim. Wow.
Mark Norman
Yikes. It's a tough time.
Theo Von
Because then you also wonder like what. Like if. If there's Israeli influence, because that's a big thing now, like how much Israeli influences. They're in, like American politics, you know?
Mark Norman
Oh, there's a lot. Yeah.
Theo Von
And it seems to be a ton. I feel like America is just like. It feels like we're just owned by Israel, you know, and we just never knew it.
Mark Norman
I thought we own them.
Theo Von
That's what I thought. Oh, but here's the thing. If we're just a team, then just tell us we're a team.
Mark Norman
Right? Tell us anything. We're all in the dark here. Everything's going over our yarmulke. I don't know what's happening. Happening.
Theo Von
Yeah, dude, Everything's sliding right over that little hair wallet.
Mark Norman
Yeah, right.
Theo Von
But dude, how. That's the thing. I think that would help everybody if they, they would just say, hey, this is what's really going on.
Mark Norman
Yes.
Theo Von
So. Cuz otherwise I think you're just. There's still this ruse of pretending that people aren't going to maybe figure it out or if you let people start to figure out themselves, then a lot of times people go to the worst place in their minds, right?
Mark Norman
Yes. And you pick a side and that's it.
Theo Von
It.
Mark Norman
It's just that side. We're left in the dark. Light of menorah. Get some light in here.
Theo Von
Yeah. Light one of the candles, dude.
Mark Norman
One of them.
Theo Von
Give us three out of eight.
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
Is it nine?
Mark Norman
I think it's eight.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
Give that a check, but I think it's eight.
Theo Von
But I agree, dude. And also, like, how to be supportive of your Jewish friendship. That, you know, it's like, oh, it is nine.
Mark Norman
My bad. Well done, Labia. Menorah.
Theo Von
They snuck one in.
Mark Norman
Yeah, they always do.
Theo Von
Yeah. Look at. That's the guy they caught.
Mark Norman
He'll get laid off. This, though. He's got some. He's got some deported pussy.
Theo Von
Oh, definitely, dude.
Mark Norman
He's a bad boy.
Theo Von
He is, huh?
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
Mamu Khalil speaks to members of media about the revolt for Rafa encampment at Columbia University. Dude, I think. But also, dude, the shit that's going on over there is so horrific. Here's what I think has happened in Gaza recently. Right. I think they are testing a lot of, like, the technology and things that they've weapons and stuff. I think they're testing it on that place.
Mark Norman
Who's they? Israel.
Theo Von
Israel?
Mark Norman
Oh, interesting. Boy, you're obsessed with Gaza. This is really taking over a lot of the old brain. Well, I'm just.
Theo Von
I think I got. Maybe I got caught in a Twitter hole the other night.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah, that'll get you, man.
Theo Von
I had to call Sean Ryan and tell me, like, dude, everybody, everything is okay. Right? I got scared.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Holy. I'm. But don't. That shit'll make you sad. Don't. Don't absorb it too much.
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah. Let's get up. We'll. We'll get off of it.
Mark Norman
I mean, I. I don't know enough about it.
Theo Von
Sometimes it's heartbreaking. I don't either, but sometimes it's just heartbreaking when you're like, how is this going on?
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
Or is there something that we don't know? Then just tell us that.
Mark Norman
Like. I know, I know. They won't tell us. They think we can't handle it. But this is way worse. Now we're all killing each other and fighting in the street. Streets.
Theo Von
I agree. That's the thing. It's like, just tell us what is going on.
Mark Norman
Yes.
Theo Von
You know, does that make sense to you too, or. I sound crazy saying that?
Mark Norman
No, I'm with you 100%. We don't know what's going on. It's like the drones. We had all these drones in New York and everybody's like, is it weapons? Is it China? Is it this? And we're like, just tell us so we can go to fucking lunch and not not freak out every day. Yeah, I just tell my niece, that was Santa.
Theo Von
Yeah. Is it fucking Papa John delivering n words to people?
Mark Norman
Yeah, that's a service. Service.
Theo Von
Remember when he had that deal, dude?
Mark Norman
Yeah. Black olives matter. I don't have black. Do black people go, papa John, what's the pizza? I thought they were more of a Domino's.
Theo Von
That's a good question. First of all, why don't they have more black specific businesses, dude?
Mark Norman
Interesting. It's like, boo, boo.
Theo Von
But where. Where's the black pizza company? Right?
Mark Norman
Right, right. Yeah, that's a good question. They like to play dominoes. Or maybe that's Puerto Ricans.
Theo Von
No, but still, that's close enough, right? Yeah, it's like, why is there not more? What's the top black owned pizza company? And I believe this about a lot of things. Like, where are the fucking black owned businesses?
Mark Norman
Yes. They're out there. We just got to blow them up.
Theo Von
Right? There we go. That's a good point.
Mark Norman
So, okay, Slimming Huskies.
Theo Von
Huskies. That's in. I think that's here. Yes, that's in Tennessee.
Mark Norman
Oh, there we go.
Theo Von
Dude, I met the owner. Bring the owner up. I met him one time over at Fenwick's here in town.
Mark Norman
Nice.
Theo Von
Do you save my day today, man?
Mark Norman
Hey, we're saving their day. Go to slimming huskies. Get a fucking pie from these guys.
Theo Von
Go to slimming huskies. Get that father figure omelette.
Mark Norman
You know what I'm saying, dude?
Theo Von
No, but go to slim huskies. There they are. They're the dogs right there. Who are they? Oh, there they are right there. Clint Gray, Derek Moore, and Emmanuel Reed, baby.
Mark Norman
Hell yeah.
Theo Von
Hell yeah, dude. Get the big dog special over there. The founding the trio who are also Tennessee State, you alumni. Tennessee State University, shout out tsu, where my buddy Zeta played kicker over there was the only white kid over there.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah. Kickers are how we slide in. Oh, yeah, dude, you know, yeah, but my buddy John Laster, he has a thing called blap and it's a black app. It's like a app for black owned businesses.
Theo Von
Really?
Mark Norman
So, yeah, that's. That's.
Theo Von
Get that it.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Go to blap. Check it out, dude.
Theo Von
This is one thing. I think that a lot of cultures and ethnicities can learn from Jewish culture is how to, like, support your culture. Right?
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
Like. Like, we should do that. I think other groups should do it. I think. And other. Other cultures may do it better than, like, Christians and Muslims.
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
But Jewish people do it well. They support their friends. They support their creations and the things that their friends make, you know?
Mark Norman
Yeah. I mean, they had to. I think they got pushed around. So they're like, we got to start our own. We got to start law firms and real estate and diamonds.
Theo Von
But they do a lot of stuff, like invest in their children. Their children, like, you know, like, learning, education. I think a lot can be learned from that culture, man. Is that crazy to say that?
Mark Norman
I completely. I mean, I'm circumcised. So there you go. We took that from them.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
Are you.
Theo Von
Huh?
Mark Norman
Are you cut? Oh, baby.
Theo Von
Auction off, dude.
Mark Norman
Call in if you.
Theo Von
Theo, the last inch.
Mark Norman
Call it, dude.
Theo Von
Yeah. Let's talk about something else that's more fun, man. Sorry.
Mark Norman
No, no. I mean, I'm interested. I just.
Theo Von
But I think I was just curious what it's like in New York City, because, you know, it's.
Mark Norman
It's. You could feel it. It's there. You remember how, like, BLM, you could feel in 2020 or whatever that was. You could just kind of feel it. There was an energy. It's. It's that in New York with Jew Palestine.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
And it's heavy.
Theo Von
Is it?
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah.
Theo Von
Wow. So. Well, it's kind of crazy that two years ago you couldn't even say the word Israel. It felt like on a podcast best. I mean, you could always say Jews are great or whatever.
Mark Norman
Sure, sure. But it's an interesting group because they're cloaked in whiteness, so you can't really tell. It's the only group like you. You don't like Asians, you can. You can kind of eyeball it.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
You know what I mean? But Jews, it's. It's just like a white guy.
Theo Von
Yeah. You know, it's just a honk. It's like a very successful honky.
Mark Norman
Yeah. I mean, again, Ari Shafir, that's like Jewish propaganda. I mean, that's a mug.
Theo Von
Yeah, that is. He's working for someone.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Yeah.
Theo Von
He coming back?
Mark Norman
Are you.
Theo Von
Are you going to be able to do an episode of it?
Mark Norman
I am. I'm working on a story now.
Theo Von
I got to work on one. Dude, he asked. I just. It's been hard.
Mark Norman
It's a lot of work because you got to go out and run that. It's 10 minutes of awkward, weird. Hey, is this the. Where the story should go and how do I end it? But you got to do it.
Theo Von
I don't know if I can get it right now. Yeah, I don't know if I can get it ready, but I think I got to do this podcast coming up.
Mark Norman
Well, your last one was Killer with the. The cabbie and the.
Theo Von
Oh, the cocaine. That was like, my first story. That was like. That was like, when I started talking about, like, being sober and like, that.
Mark Norman
That was. That blew up. I mean, people really connected with that.
Theo Von
That story was crazy. I remember one part of it. This girl, like, laying in my lap and like, we were just, like, both. Like, we both had been drinking or whatever, and I'm trying to, like, lean down and kiss her, and I couldn't get to her face, you know?
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Theo Von
And you get so close, and you're right there, and she's, you know, it's.
Mark Norman
Like trying to blow yourself. You get so close to right there.
Theo Von
God, that's a Adam's apple. Stops you.
Mark Norman
That's crazy. Yeah, I got a lick once, but I hurt myself. I, like, pulled a muscle.
Theo Von
Oh, that's the worst. When a guy's getting a Tortol shot because he's been tongue washing his own cat.
Mark Norman
Yeah, I gotta do yoga or something.
Theo Von
Yeah. Oh, that's the craziest, though.
Mark Norman
Dude, you asked Trump about coke. Was that. Give me. Give it to me straight. I've known you for a while. How. How scary was it having him right next to you?
Theo Von
Well, I'd seen him at UFC fights.
Mark Norman
I know, but this is like face to face podcasting. I mean, conversation.
Theo Von
I think I've felt for a while that things are turning into the wwe, that nobody's, like, super famous anymore. Things are merging pretty quick. It's like you have people who are coming up with, like, a crazy lyric on Tick Tock that are now selling out big music venues that bands who have been performing for 15 years can't sell out. Right. So it's like.
Mark Norman
Right.
Theo Von
I think everything's just getting weird. It's like you could have, like, you know, a year and a half ago, sketch the. What's up, brother? That guy was probably. Oh, yeah, for two months was the most popular guy in the world, maybe.
Mark Norman
Totally.
Theo Von
Like, everything's just. It's very strange now. So.
Mark Norman
Yeah, there's. The lines are blurred. You'd be like, celebrity. Not now. It's just everybody's in there, right?
Theo Von
It used to be like, you and I would never Talk to Harrison Ford.
Mark Norman
No.
Theo Von
Or get to. Or like Kendall Jenner. You know, it's like. But now we have a chance to at least look at them as they drive by.
Mark Norman
Right, Right. Well, you. You talked to Shalomu. I mean, he's like one of the biggest actors in the world. You're just hanging out with him.
Theo Von
Didn't ask to edit the thing or anything. Totally normal. Cool dude, regular guy.
Mark Norman
Yeah. He's plowing Kendall, which has got to be. Or Kylie. It's got to be.
Theo Von
It seems like they're honestly, like kind of like in lovebirds. Like, when I saw him, it just seemed like they're like lovebirds, which made you give you some hope for Hollywood because you just think, like, everything's so manufactured. But. But anyway, that's. So that was part of it. The second thing. Oh, dude. I'd had it interviewed post Malone here the day before. And so I was so, like, just burnt out.
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
And I was just tired, you know. But I just went up there. We flew directly there to his golf course. It was crazy. Like, rich people were everywhere.
Mark Norman
Oh.
Theo Von
Like, kids were driving at the bottom of the pool and bringing up mutual funds and like, way different.
Mark Norman
Damn. That was. Was that mar a lago?
Theo Von
It was something fancier than that. It was like, fancier. It was New Jersey.
Mark Norman
Huh? Oh, okay.
Theo Von
It was like mar a lago or something or whatever they have up there, you know?
Mark Norman
Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.
Theo Von
It was like kind of like this year, like, Italian. There it is. Dude, look at that.
Mark Norman
Whoa.
Theo Von
And, bro, they had ducks out there in the pond that were like, organized as. None of these gay ass ducks you see at the park like that are just doing dope or whatever.
Mark Norman
Right.
Theo Von
Eating bre from strangers. These. I saw him Paul us off. I think a sourdough line up in a straight line, classy.
Mark Norman
And perform damn ducks in a row.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah. You could tell they were gonna be lunch if they didn't land every. Every. If they didn't land every move in sequence.
Mark Norman
Right.
Theo Von
So that was crazy. Then they. You had secret service everywhere, right?
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah.
Theo Von
But there's still fans. You pull in, they frisk and. And they're all like, hey, I love the thing thing. And then you're just taking selfies with them. You're holding their gun, right? You're pointing their gun at them and, like, it'll shoot, you know?
Mark Norman
That's the best. I love getting the working man. Like when you get like a garbage man or a cop and he's like, hey, comedy. I'm like, yes, I want you as a fan.
Theo Von
That's the best, dude.
Mark Norman
It's the best.
Theo Von
Yeah. There's nothing better, dude. Anytime if I'm walking down the street and I see a couple of guys digging in a hole or whatever, hiding the bodies or whatever.
Mark Norman
Jews again.
Theo Von
Yeah. Or funneling monies for Schwab through one of the. Those Yiddish mattress sale tunnels or whatever, I always stop and get photos with those guys. Anybody that does something real.
Mark Norman
Yes, yes. And those are the most sane guys, by the way. Yeah, by the way, you see that Adam Carolla went on some rant where he's like, you know, we. We hate dudes, but, like, who do you think is fixing the LA fires? It's just a bunch of dudes getting in there and getting their hands dirty and building. He's got a point. And like, that's what's so annoying about politics. That's why I can't. You can't pick a side or. It's so like, Gavin Newsom's got a pocket. He's talking to Steve Bannon. He's like, yeah, these trends are crazy. And you're like. He's like, we've got too many regulations in California. Like, you're the guy, right? You're the. You do the governor, you make the rules. Dickless. Change it. Why are you telling us about it?
Theo Von
Well, it's the same thing with America. Even in like America supporting like the Gaza stuff, it's like, what are then your complicity? It's like all of a sudden we're complicit in it. That's. That's what makes everything so tricky. It's like, are we standing up for ourselves? Are we not standing up for ourselves? Who are we supposed to support? It used to felt like we knew what was supposed to happen.
Mark Norman
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Theo Von
It used to feel like we knew.
Mark Norman
And whether we were right or wrong or, or. Or just being fed like sheep, you still knew where to go. Even if you were wrong. You knew what. What America stood for or whatever the.
Theo Von
But then it brings me back to like, I think the Vietnam times when you saw those protests. Cuz I used to hear about the protester in Vietnam and I'm like, what would the. They'd be protesting like, we're doing this war. That's what's supposed to happen. But then you realize that there was a group of people who ended up being, a lot of times some of the coolest people who were like, this isn't right, right, right. Who didn't believe, like, the Propaganda machine. So it's crazy that if things could even get out, then that the same kind of. It's just so. I don't know. It's just interesting, man.
Mark Norman
It is. It is. And I think the. The. The cracks are opening up because the Internet and everybody's talking, and. And sometimes there's too many people talking, but you can kind of start to see the bullshit a little more now. There's more light on it.
Theo Von
Yeah. It's just crazy because then it's like, what happens? You just got to take care of yourself, take care of your loved ones. That's got to be important.
Mark Norman
That's one good thing about a kid. It just. You focus. You're not thinking about Twitter. You're not thinking about this. You're just like, ah, this kid has got a shit diaper, and I got to change it. And that's it.
Theo Von
Really?
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah. So it kind of just. It makes you got one problem. You don't have a million problems.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
It's just. Get this kid to not have down syndrome.
Theo Von
And when do you find that out?
Mark Norman
I think pretty early. That's why you see less of them now. I think people are nipping that in the bud. I know it's sad because you like seeing one every now and then.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, man. Especially. Well, they started, I hate to say.
Mark Norman
This, the whole baby.
Theo Von
They got more talented over the past 20 years.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah. There's a lot of models. Downsy models, they got more talented.
Theo Von
And I got proven wrong. I had always known that down syndrome people couldn't walk backwards. Right.
Mark Norman
Is that right? Whoa.
Theo Von
That had always been a big thing in our area, but now a woman disproved me on that.
Mark Norman
Oh, good for her. This is like the Jackie Robinson of downs.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, dude.
Mark Norman
Good for her. Oh, yeah. That's it. I mean, I don't know that the moment has passed, but, yeah, I'll play it. He goes on a hell of a rant.
Theo Von
Does he?
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
They give a.
Mark Norman
About young dudes now because they're losing their demo. They were the enemy. Young white dudes were always the enemy.
Theo Von
Or heterosexual dudes or whatever.
Mark Norman
And now they. They lost. They're losing their constituencies, so now they have to pretend to give a fuck. Sign an executive order aimed at increasing young men's enrollment and education and skill training programs. So, yeah, they're doing some catch up right now. Yeah, okay. Perhaps you shouldn't have waged war on them for the last 15 years. That would have been nice. We got a clip of toxic masculinity and all you. Connecticut governor, by the way, can I just. Let me say this. Let me just say this.
Theo Von
Please listen to me, everyone.
Mark Norman
I toured the sites of Altadena and the Palisades and Malibu.
Theo Von
There's a whole bunch of people with.
Mark Norman
Dicks and balls who are fucking driving excavators and trucks and operating all the heavy equipment. All the fucking people you hate, all the people who didn't go to college, all the guys with the cocks and.
Theo Von
The balls, all the guys who don't.
Mark Norman
Give you their pronouns. That place has been completely rebuilt by just them.
Theo Von
Amen.
Mark Norman
Nobody who looks like you. Nobody uses pronouns. No he, she's, none of your fucking freak shows, none of your Admiral Levine's. Nobody looks like that. It's just a bunch of fucking dudes who go by he and him.
Theo Von
Yeah, that's good.
Mark Norman
Yeah, yeah.
Theo Von
You need Mike Rose children in there every now and then. Dude, that's who you need. But it's a great point. It's like you're trying to build this. You're going to have places that are going to fall apart. You know, at some point, guys are gonna be like, we're not rebuilding for these anymore. At some point, you can have a military that's like, I'm not fighting this war for you anymore. You go figure it out.
Mark Norman
Right, right, exactly.
Theo Von
That's why they contract military guys in there. So they're. They're fucked. A lot of times people don't realize that.
Mark Norman
That's a good point. But also, the. The binary world we live in now, everything's got to be, like I said, black versus white. So women hear that and they go, oh, you hate women. You're like, no, no, we love women. Women are awesome. Martha Stewart rules. But can't we both be awesome? Why do we have to have one or the other? Like these men talking about, they're complaining, fuck men. Women are great. You're like, yeah, women are great, but why can't men be great too? Let's just both be great.
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah, but it's like, I don't know. Sorry, went off on a road again. No, no, but it's just a weird time. It's a heightened time.
Mark Norman
It is, it is. And I think we used to go at each other racially, and now, now that, like, I feel like racial harmony, obviously never going to be perfect, but now we just go at each other. Opiniony. You don't agree with me. You don't agree with me. Fuck you, I'll kill you. And it used to be we Used to be divided up in different ways, mostly by race. You know, back in the 50s, whites only, blacks only. But now it's like we're divided by opinions. Opinion. And it's. If you don't agree with somebody, they just take it personally. And then they lash out at you and you're like. But not agreeing on everything is. I like gay guys like dick. You know, we don't have to fight about it.
Theo Von
Yeah. We're both going to Cincinnati.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Theo Von
But, dude, no, that's a great point. Tell me a little bit more about that, man, because I think I fall victim to that too, sometimes. Like, kind of say that again for me.
Mark Norman
Well, we. Everything is opinion and. And what side you're on and what stance you take. And if you don't agree with that opinion fully or one little thing. Not even fully one little thing about it. I don't. I don't buy that part. Then they just turn on you and they go, you're the enemy. And you're like, well, how'd we get here? You know? And we got to just start going, oh, you think that. Why. Oh, I never thought of it that way. I mean, I still think this, but you think that. And can we all get along?
Theo Von
Yeah. Why do we get so attached to our.
Mark Norman
I think is we have no identity anymore. People have no identity. Everything's so E. We got maternity, modernity, we got a phone. We got UberEats up our ass. We got anything. You just get shit delivered to your house, and no one's living anymore. No one's, like, connecting, you know, we used to have a kind of a community. And this. All this shit has been said before, but I think before you actually had to, like, do shit and get your hands dirty. And now everything's given to us, and if something doesn't go our way, we don't know how to handle anymore. Where shit used to not go your way at all back in the day. Like, your kids would die. So you had another kid, or, you.
Theo Von
Know, it used to be your kids would die, you would have another kid, like, two days later.
Mark Norman
Yeah. And everybody just got along and. And dealt with it. There wasn't like, a guy going, ah, my kid died. I'm bummed out. I'm doing a GoFundMe. And everybody goes, you're so brave. Good for you.
Theo Von
Like, right? And they would even name the new kid the same name as the other kid. It would be like, Matthew II or whatever.
Mark Norman
Yes.
Theo Von
Matthew 2. Like, it was like one of those Apollo returning things or Whatever.
Mark Norman
It was a sequel. Yeah, yeah. Avengers 9 or Fast and the Furious. This. Fast and the Furious. This is Avengers 8.
Theo Von
Yeah, bro, it's so. That's such a good point, man. Wow.
Mark Norman
It doesn't have to be like this, but I think it gives you a. It gives you an identity and a personality to attack. Oh, Theo thinks this. I'm gonna go against Theo because I'm this. And I gotta show everybody on this. I gotta plant my flag.
Theo Von
Flag, right. Yeah. And that's what they call identity politics, right?
Mark Norman
I guess so. Yeah. It's bad news.
Theo Von
What is the term identity politics? Bring it up. I just want to see what it means. So I know.
Mark Norman
And everybody has to start us in as a white man, as a black woman, as a gay Jew, as a queefy.
Theo Von
Identity politics is politics based on a particular identity, such as ethnicity, race, nationality, religion, denomination, gender, sexual orientation, social background, political affiliation, caste, age, disability, intelligence, intelligence in social class. What's kind of interesting because you also have to represent, like you have to speak up sometimes for where you're from. Like, you know, otherwise your group can get totally just trampled over.
Mark Norman
I guess so.
Theo Von
But at the same time, it's like.
Mark Norman
But there's a hierarchy. That's part of the problem too. It's like black trans is more important than. Right, like white lady.
Theo Von
Yeah, yeah. Than Asian Sagittarius or whatever.
Mark Norman
Yeah, yeah.
Theo Von
But three Asian Sagittarius as beat one black trans.
Mark Norman
Exactly. It's like poker now.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
You got a royal flush.
Theo Von
Oh, left handed gay dude from Minneapolis.
Mark Norman
Forget about it. Yeah, but that's the other thing is we, we. We have to have all these different, like black, black versus white, whatever. But really, when you think about it, we could find a difference anywhere and hate somebody. Like the Hutus and the Tootsies. They're all black, but they just hate each other for some religious reason. I'm too stupid to know.
Theo Von
Oh, I'm too stupid too, dude. But what I'm saying is if they join together and just attacked whoever owned the land right near them.
Mark Norman
There you go.
Theo Von
Then they would make some progress.
Mark Norman
That's a perfect example. The Bloods and the Crips. It just, it just comes down to clothing at that point, you know, it's blue versus red. It's silly.
Theo Von
Yeah, I. What was something you said a second ago that's really great? Oh, the.
Mark Norman
Oh, these tariffs are getting. Getting out of control.
Theo Von
Oh yeah, the tariffs are getting out of control. All the everyday items that will cost Americans more following Donald Trump's global Tariffs. But here's the thing with tariffs is the, the goal of tariffs is that if they, if it costs more for people to bring their products in, then they'll build them here.
Mark Norman
Yes, that's part of it. Yeah.
Theo Von
So it's kind of a long term play. It's going to take a while.
Mark Norman
It's going to be bumpy for a while. But that's if it works.
Theo Von
Right.
Mark Norman
So we'll see. But it might take 10 years.
Theo Von
Right?
Mark Norman
Right.
Theo Von
If we don't try this though, then I think it's a wrap.
Mark Norman
Oh, you think? Just go for it. Bite. Bite the belt and go for it.
Theo Von
I do. Because I think at this point, even from my own perception, we probably on this tour, this comedy tour, we've been probably the top 200 cities like size wise in America, maybe, maybe even more than that. And a lot of them. There's nothing there.
Mark Norman
Yes.
Theo Von
It's empty downtown.
Mark Norman
Oh yeah, it's.
Theo Von
We're in Amarillo. It's empty downtown. Shreveport, Louisiana was empty downtown. Toledo, Ohio. Right. It's getting a little bit better there. But. And that's just a few, I mean, a lot of places. Montgomery, just empty.
Mark Norman
Yep.
Theo Von
And so you start to be like, nothing's gonna, there's nothing coming that's gonna make that different. Right.
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
And maybe it doesn't matter. Maybe that's just how society changes and evolves and, and we just end up with like seven big cities in America. And the rest of it is just like rural land where people live and have great lives, but they're not in like a city.
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
And these things fall by the wayside.
Mark Norman
And don't, don't forget, we got automation coming. We got AI coming. So like jobs are going away quick and everything's digital now. There's nothing manufactured here.
Theo Von
And why do we keep building? Right. And that's one of the, that's one of the things that people say, well, even if you bring jobs back here, those jobs are going to disappear because of AI anyway. Oh, that's one of the side, that's one of the other arguments against, against doing the tariffs at all.
Mark Norman
Damn, Alan. I.
Theo Von
It's, it's weird, man. And then the weirdest thing you start to realize, I feel like is that you're just a member of your government, whatever choices they're making. Yeah, that's, that's something that's been big recently. It's like, oh, whatever choice the government makes, I'm a member of this country. But if you, if you don't, if they don't make you feel like you're a part of something. Like there, there's no benefits to being member. At a certain point you're like, damn, it's a weird club to be in.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Yeah, maybe we got to overthrow the government. Maybe that's what's, what's next.
Theo Von
How do you do that, do you think?
Mark Norman
I think we got, we got them outnumbered. I mean, we got a lot of people here, right? And we can, you know, send out a couple tweets and texts and get everybody on board. We people have guns. You probably got a gun. So there you go. Well, we'll get in there and shoot some people.
Theo Von
And where do you meet up, you think a Dollar General or something?
Mark Norman
Yeah, you know, some nice community place we all know about. And we'll meet at the. The KFC slash Taco Bell, get a meal and revolt.
Theo Von
Yeah, dude, a belly full of.
Mark Norman
Oh, that's a gas chamber.
Theo Von
Oh, when those pizzas came out, they were so good. Remember that in high school?
Mark Norman
Oh, the Mexican pizza. Amazing. That'll make you want to open the border.
Theo Von
God. Remember how good they. And when they first came out, I think they might have had even real meat in them.
Mark Norman
Dude, those were the days.
Theo Von
And someone pooped in the meat over in Mandeville.
Mark Norman
Really?
Theo Von
Oh, the whole town didn't know what to do. There were people crying over at the parking lot.
Mark Norman
Could you tell the difference?
Theo Von
I don't know if you could or not. Somebody, I don't know who had it. Now that's the thing. We never found out who had it, but they really busted it. Run a research on that poop in the meat over there at Taco Bell.
Mark Norman
Well, what do you think it is now?
Theo Von
Horse or Mandeville, Louisiana. I'm not sure.
Mark Norman
It tastes damn good either way. I love Taco Bell. That's probably my favorite fast food.
Theo Von
Suit ALLEGES feces found in Taco Bell Item. There you go. A new lawsuit has been filed against Taco Bell restaurant just months after the company settled a series of lawsuits out of court following a 1995 hep hepatitis outbreak. In the suit file Wednesday 3rd district and an. This is gonna make me laugh. An anonymous couple and their 10 year old son alleged the boy found feces in a soft shell taco. Damn. Boss bought it a drive up window at the Cottonwood Heights Taco Bell, Fort Union Boulevard. Oh, this is in my time. This is Salt Lake City, man.
Mark Norman
Oh, imagine eating that, that chapupa.
Theo Von
I know. Oh, God damn.
Mark Norman
You got to put a lot of fire sauce on that turd? Yeah, just to get it down.
Theo Von
Just to get that down?
Mark Norman
Yeah. You ever tasted?
Theo Von
Huh? I don't think so. Have you had any accidentally with the baby being around? Down.
Mark Norman
Oh, well, they say shits on everything. Your keyboard is apparently a cesspool of flint water. But yeah, I mean, I've tasted piss.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
That was not pleasant.
Theo Von
Oh, I thought a little. Even during a fast. One time I was fasting for like three or four days. I was in the shower and I. You don't even realize what you're doing.
Mark Norman
Wait, how did you get the piss in your mouth?
Theo Von
I'll piss straight up.
Mark Norman
Damn, that's impressive.
Theo Von
Piss straight up? Yeah, to the top of my head if I'm standing there.
Mark Norman
No way. Yeah, that's. Damn, that's not easy. Especially at our age.
Theo Von
I can piss really good, man.
Mark Norman
Wow.
Theo Von
I can piss pretty. I'm trying to think. Yeah, I can piss pretty good. And then you just get a. Yeah, I've been fasting. I took a side sip off that because. You know what I'm saying, dude, you.
Mark Norman
Gotta try it once.
Theo Von
I'll show them.
Mark Norman
Yeah, It's a weird flavor. It's tangy as.
Theo Von
Yeah, it's very. It's kind of like hot coffee. That's what my ex girlfriend used to say.
Mark Norman
Really? She's a keeper.
Theo Von
I let her go, unfortunately.
Mark Norman
Damn.
Theo Von
God, dude.
Mark Norman
What's she up to now? Hanging out with R. Kelly, I guess.
Theo Von
Working in. I'm not even sure. Probably working in. At that geyser park in National Geographics.
Mark Norman
Hot Springs, baby.
Theo Von
What else do we want to talk about, dude?
Mark Norman
Well, I think the world is on fire. So buy. Buy some whiskey. I'm selling a whiskey out there. Me and Sam started a. Oh, Bodega cat. You got it.
Theo Von
Yeah. Yep.
Mark Norman
Yeah, it's not legal in Tennessee yet, but we're going to get it here. God damn it.
Theo Von
Let me see if what we can do here, please.
Mark Norman
The red tape is bananas.
Theo Von
It is.
Mark Norman
Yeah. It's so hard to get it places.
Theo Von
Is it?
Mark Norman
Oh yeah, you got to. It's all mob run. It's all super mobby. And you got to like work your way in. Yeah, there's all these old fashioned rules and shit.
Theo Von
Damn.
Mark Norman
Yeah, Sam's drinking it on Seth Meyers right there.
Theo Von
Oh, he took it on there.
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
So bodega cats. So didn't they just have an issue too about bodega cats in New York?
Mark Norman
Work, probably. They're always there. That's where we got the. The idea.
Theo Von
Really?
Mark Norman
Yeah, we just. You want To a bodega, there's always a cat sleeping on the bread and you always go, it warms your heart. So we go, hey, how about a whiskey that'll warm your heart?
Theo Von
Yeah, I love that idea. Bodega cats make New Yorkers hearts purr, even if they violate state regulations.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah, I'm sure it's a health code thing, but.
Theo Von
But they had rat issue there, so of course you can have cats. So you can't get mad. You need a bodega cat.
Mark Norman
You need them.
Theo Von
New York City's bodega cats are beloved fixtures in the Big Apple. But they're on the wrong side of the law.
Mark Norman
Law. Oh.
Theo Von
The convenience store cats that live at many of the city's bodegas and delis look innocent enough, spending their days lounging in sun soaked storefronts or slinking between shells of snack foods as they collect friendly pets from customers. State law bars most animals from stores that sell food with bodega owners potentially facing fines. You can't bill these guys. They're probably charging these cats to even be in the city after 4pm I bet.
Mark Norman
Yeah, right. But you need it. It's old school. We get rid of the rat, you get a cat that's like as old as time. But yeah, the rats hate the cat. It's like a Indian with deodorant. They don't get along.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah, bro. Oh, it's that full body shawarma, brother.
Mark Norman
Oh yeah. It's palpable.
Theo Von
Oh, it's that scurry. I'll run from that if I smell it. I gotta go.
Mark Norman
Oh yeah.
Theo Von
That's crazy. So bodega cat is a new. It's a whiskey.
Mark Norman
It's a rye whiskey. Yeah, it's been around for a while. We're just, it's such a slow process. We're getting it one bar at a time. We got in all the comedy clubs, a lot of theaters.
Theo Von
Do you.
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
Is it down at the Mothership?
Mark Norman
It is, yes.
Theo Von
That's awesome. So if you were at the mothership, you can order Bodega Cat.
Mark Norman
Yep.
Theo Von
Is it a good whiskey?
Mark Norman
It's a great whiskey. We taste tested a million of them. We've, we've had like experts try it and they like it. We got at the Comedy Store, the comedy seller. I mean, it's all over really. Oh, yeah. Coast to coast.
Theo Von
And is it. It has alcohol in it.
Mark Norman
It is a big bottle of whiskey. Yeah.
Theo Von
Okay, so you can't. So yeah, if you can't drink, you can't drink. But you could get one for a friend.
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
You could watch your dad drink it, watch your mom drink it. Do you mix it with something?
Mark Norman
You can have it straight up. It's got a nice spice to it. Or you can put soda water or coke or whatever the hell. Bad decisions. Mix it up.
Theo Von
Bodega cat. Dude. I want to see you guys win with this.
Mark Norman
We're trying. We want to retire on this puppy. And it's. It's. People seem to like it when they try it, so get a bottle.
Theo Von
I love that. And this is you and Sam Morrill. Oh, that's hilarious. Serious, dude.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Just a couple of old pals. So we feel like we're. You're sober now. Everybody got sober on us, so we're like the last men barely standing. You know, We're. We're.
Theo Von
Shane.
Mark Norman
Yeah, Shane. He's. But he's a beer guy.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
So we like the liquor. So, like Dan Soder, Joe List, all these guys. They got. They got sober. Bert's out there.
Theo Von
Yeah. Bert is definitely the Neil Armstrong of alcohol.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Yeah.
Theo Von
Whatever that guy is, he's just out on the moon.
Mark Norman
Yes. One. One small step for our alcoholism.
Theo Von
Yeah. I'm just trying to think if there's something else we should talk about. Go through the news really quick stories if there's a couple.
Mark Norman
Trump had that gold card thing for wealthy immigrants to expedite citizenship.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
Oh, that's doing well.
Theo Von
Oh, that gold card.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Yeah.
Theo Von
Trump had that gold card. Is it doing well?
Mark Norman
I heard they sold a thousand of them already.
Theo Von
Nah.
Mark Norman
Which is what? What's that? That 5 million.
Theo Von
I'm an idiot times 1000. That is 500 million.
Mark Norman
Thank you. That's a lot of. Lot of scratch.
Theo Von
No, it's more than that. It's 5 billion.
Mark Norman
Is it? Jesus.
Theo Von
Do 5 million times 1000. God.
Mark Norman
We should know this. 5 billion. You had it.
Theo Von
You had it the second time.
Mark Norman
Second time. Asia.
Theo Von
Think Tammany Parish.
Mark Norman
Yeah. That AI is going to take over.
Theo Von
He pulled out the Trump car. President Trump proudly showed off the design of his administration's new $5 million gold card to reporters aboard Air Force One on Thursday. Let me just see what it looks like. Dude.
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
Are they selling commemorative ones? They have to be. That's a smart move.
Mark Norman
But does it look like a Walmart card or like a Costco? It's got to look cool. Ah, damn. It looks Chinese. That's like Mao, bro.
Theo Von
So Mal. Dude. Bro. And. Yeah, but that's wild that they're selling those. What do you think about that? Because now it's like this. You can just be a citizen with 5 million bucks.
Mark Norman
Well, I feel like if you got 5 mil to throw away to get into America, you want to get here. And you. You're not like a. Like a poor guy, right? So you probably have. You're probably doing all right. So. Yeah, bring them in.
Theo Von
So it's become like a home for the elites. This has become a. It's become the Saint Tropez or whatever.
Mark Norman
There you go.
Theo Von
Of humanity. But do they still have to pass immigration tests? What is the rules with that?
Mark Norman
Good question. You hope so. You still. You can't just buy your way and you got to still do the homework, dude.
Theo Von
I'm going to do that. If I get to meet him again, I'm going to ask him if. If I can have one of those as a gift.
Mark Norman
Oh, my God. But you're already in. You don't need one.
Theo Von
But I'll stay in.
Mark Norman
Yeah, you can frame that.
Theo Von
I'm staying in, Mom.
Mark Norman
You could use that at every bar here. You want my id? Goldie?
Theo Von
Sucker. Well, what does it say? Does he have any other information on it?
Mark Norman
Sydney Sweeney could sell a few of those to her box, I'll tell you that.
Theo Von
God, dude, I can't believe you came in your wife again.
Mark Norman
I know. I gotta get my. Together mark. Yeah. I'm an idiot. We'll see what happens. She's very. She's very fertile.
Theo Von
Is she?
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah. Fertile Myrtle over here.
Theo Von
God, you could throw a. I've never done that.
Mark Norman
You never gotten a lady pregnant?
Theo Von
I've never ejaculated in a woman.
Mark Norman
What?
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
Wow.
Theo Von
Talked about this before?
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
My whole life. I haven't.
Mark Norman
That's. Boy, you got good willpower, even when you were drinking. Yeah, man, I'm impressed.
Theo Von
Goodwill spunking. That's my. That's my movie coming out. The proposal aims to supplement or replace the existing EB5 immigrant investors visa program, which required foreign investors to create or preserve 10 permanent full time jobs for US workers. The Gold Card simplifies this process by allowing the wealthy foreigners to pay $5 million for a visa, granting them green card privileges and a route to citizenship. Do they still have to pass immigration? Let me see. At the White House press conference on February 26, Trump and US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick introduced the concept of a Gold Card as a new pathway to U.S. citizenship. It's not a bad idea that there's this golden ticket, kind of, because at least they're making money off it. I'm just curious to see. They've talked about getting rid of the fed, Getting rid of the irs if that shit can happen.
Mark Norman
Yeah. That's some big moves. Very radical.
Theo Von
It'd be crazy. And we wouldn't have to pay taxes anymore. Like, just.
Mark Norman
Well, we used to not have income tax in America back in the day.
Theo Von
I know.
Mark Norman
That came up later.
Theo Von
Be nice to get back to that.
Mark Norman
Oh, and we could use it. I mean, eggs are $9 million now.
Theo Von
Are they?
Mark Norman
Eggs are way through the roof.
Theo Von
Yeah. They busted more people bringing eggs in than they busted fentanyl dealers, which is kind of insane.
Mark Norman
Is that a joke?
Theo Von
No.
Mark Norman
Whoa. How do you carry that in? I mean, fentanyl, at least you can throw it in a. In a car tire or something. But eggs, you got to really. You got to hide that shipping and handling.
Theo Von
I know. That's a good point.
Mark Norman
Huh?
Theo Von
You have to walk real slow with them balancing your head. US Sees large rise in border seizures of eggs while fentanyl rates fall.
Mark Norman
Damn. Well, it's. At least fentanyl is going down.
Theo Von
With egg prices soaring due to the bird flu outbreak, border officials say they're catching more people attempting to bring eggs in the United states illegally. Italy, u. S. Customs and border protection said this week that seizure of raw eggs have risen by 48 at entry points.
Mark Norman
Damn.
Theo Von
In fact, sharp increases in egg seizures are outpacing borders. Official interceptions of deadly fentanyl. It's so much easier to catch an egg, though.
Mark Norman
Of course. Of course. You just shake a guy and then watch it run down his leg. Yeah, but we gotta get a chicken. What are we doing? Just get your own chicken. You'll be like, it's like growing your own weed now.
Theo Von
Dude. Make a fenton omelette. That's what I would do.
Mark Norman
He's gotta go, man. And then you want to do the chickens know about the egg prices. They'd probably feel pretty good about themselves. Like, damn, I'm out gold here.
Theo Von
Yeah. Imagine the pride they would walk around with.
Mark Norman
Exactly. And now hooters is gone. So they're not getting chopped up for the wings. The chickens are living the dream, dude.
Theo Von
I quit. The last hooters I went to was that one over on the west bank over there. Oh, yeah, the one where Anthony davis.
Mark Norman
Look at that. That. Oh, I even realized that. That's crazy, dude.
Theo Von
I didn't realize that. That's one where Anthony davis allegedly knocked up the waitress. Remember that?
Mark Norman
Yes.
Theo Von
Who? Dad on the back, baby.
Mark Norman
Yeah. That was a great hooters.
Theo Von
God. It was pretty good over there.
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah. But If RFK saw us eating that, he'd the bed.
Theo Von
I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, it'd be crazy to see what would happen. Man, if they. If they stop Hooters, we're all going to be in bad off.
Mark Norman
We do need better food. I think, like, a lot of people get mad about rfk, but I'm like, we are sick, we are fat, we are obese, and we are. Are. We pay the most in health care and we're the. We're the least healthy.
Theo Von
And racism too.
Mark Norman
Sure, I can't really fix that.
Theo Von
But you don't see somebody fasting. That's used into racial slurs.
Mark Norman
That's true.
Theo Von
You don't see somebody fasting, yelling out of their window with their last, like, living available energy.
Mark Norman
Right? But if you yell the N word, you better run fast. You got to get the hell out of there.
Theo Von
Yeah, you got to be fast. Yeah, that's a different kind of fast. One more thing. Anything else you want to talk about again before we leave, Mark? Anything?
Mark Norman
Oh, boy. I feel like we covered a lot.
Theo Von
We did. We. We totally did.
Mark Norman
You got to ask out Sidney Sweeney. That could be your new. Your next kid could be a Sweeney.
Theo Von
She's gonna be upset, though, that we talked about her breasts. I bet, in the beginning.
Mark Norman
Yeah, but I think she's hurt at all. I mean, she. Imagine the fucking creepos DMing her.
Theo Von
It's a good point. Yeah. And you're telling me to DM her now.
Mark Norman
Wow. But you're a nice guy, you're successful, you're funny.
Theo Von
She's gonna be upset, though. But we're just joking.
Mark Norman
Yeah, of course we're joking.
Theo Von
You know we were just joking. Dude, I just watched White Lotus season one. That was great.
Mark Norman
Oh, nice. Yeah. Two is good and three is bananas.
Theo Von
It is.
Mark Norman
I mean it. They. They upped it.
Theo Von
I can't even imagine.
Mark Norman
It's naughty, it's dark. And don't watch it with your parents. I'll just say that.
Theo Von
Tuesdays with stories. That's it.
Mark Norman
Tuesday stories. And we might be drunk. Those are the pods.
Theo Von
Yeah. I still gotta fucking come up there, man.
Mark Norman
Man, we'd love to have you. It's an open invite anytime.
Theo Von
I owe you, man.
Mark Norman
I know you're a busy queef. What about Luigi? I heard he's go going to the death chair.
Theo Von
Manioni.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Theo Von
Did he really?
Mark Norman
I heard he's getting the. The death penalty. Maybe I'm wrong, but yeah. Look at that guy.
Theo Von
Kind of pisses me off, man.
Mark Norman
The Irony. Well, it sucks that he did this, you know, you shouldn't go around killing people. But it didn't change anything. That's the worst part.
Theo Von
Well, it just shows you, man. I mean, I saw. Luigi Mangione facing a slew of federal and state charges in the slaying of healthcare CEO Brian Thompson could be sentenced to death if he's convicted of federal murder charges in what criminal justice experts say was a rare but unsurprising move to pursue the death penalty by the Justice Department this week. Wow. Damn, dude. Remember? Attorney General Pam Bondi announced Tuesday that she's instructed federal prosecutors to seek the death penalty for mangio in 2026. Dude, remember what happened with those Epstein binders? Remember that?
Mark Norman
Oh, yeah. That and the jfk, that just kind of went away.
Theo Von
Well, I think there was nothing new in the jfk, Right. I think everybody just kind of like. It feels like there's nothing new there. But remember the binders? They gave them all to these, like, six, like, kind of bizarre influencers.
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
And it. Look how. I mean, bro, how staged. This is the most staged thing ever, right?
Mark Norman
Yeah. And they kept me like, today's the day, it's coming out. And you're like, what are you doing of me?
Theo Von
And then nothing has happened since then.
Mark Norman
No. They're edging us with this list.
Theo Von
Yeah. How could it take this many years? How fake or procured. It's almost like you're just. I bet in the background they are threatening everybody. You're going to be on this list.
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
If you don't file suit right now.
Mark Norman
That's got to be it. It's leverage.
Theo Von
And then look at this. Binders.
Mark Norman
It's.
Theo Von
I mean, how fake is that?
Mark Norman
Well, we got just Lane. She's just sitting in a jail cell. Let's talk to that bro.
Theo Von
Who is it?
Mark Norman
Just Lane Maxwell. She did all the recruiting.
Theo Von
Oh, yeah. She was like the. She did the college recruiting or whatever.
Mark Norman
Yeah, yeah.
Theo Von
She ran the portal.
Mark Norman
Yes, exactly. The portal. Yeah. She's around. We could talk to her, but. No, that's a good point.
Theo Von
Where is she? What is she up there?
Mark Norman
She's sitting in a jail cell, like, living it up.
Theo Von
It's getting interesting in the world, guys. If you want to live in an interesting time. This is it. This is it. You like playing the game Clue? This is it, man.
Mark Norman
That's it. Every day is Clue. You know, it's a school shooter in the home room with the ak.
Theo Von
Yeah. Every day. Dude, the pelicans suck still.
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
Yeah, they fucking suck.
Mark Norman
What Else is new.
Theo Von
Yep, that's it. Saints. You hopeful for them next season?
Mark Norman
Always. Always. I feel like we got one super bowl win in 2010, and it's. It's all downhill. But we had the. The super bowl in. In New Orleans. Looked amazing. Did you go? No, I killed it. I was texting Gillis. I was texting Bert. Like, I had so much fomo because, you know, we're from there, and it was just.
Theo Von
We should have been there.
Mark Norman
The city was alive. We should have been there. I just had a kid, so I couldn't leave.
Theo Von
Oh, that kid's only a couple months old.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Two months. Wow. Crazy.
Theo Von
Is it? Do you really miss it when you're gone from it?
Mark Norman
I do. He's in the car right now, but.
Theo Von
You're lying.
Mark Norman
No, no. But, yeah, he's.
Theo Von
God, order him a coffee or something. That's a lot, man. Congratulations, dude. I feel bad. I feel like I didn't ask you enough about your kid.
Mark Norman
No, no, no. It's. Everybody's got a kid. It's. Retards and crackheads have kids. You know, it's not that. It's not that big of a deal.
Theo Von
But is it fun having a kid in the city, or does it make you start to think about moving out?
Mark Norman
Well, I got. I got lucky. Me and the lady, we had the kid on the way, so we moved to Brooklyn. We got a backyard, we got some space, so that helps.
Theo Von
Okay.
Mark Norman
But I just. I like New York.
Theo Von
Yeah.
Mark Norman
So we're staying.
Theo Von
You're an energy. You like. You're that guy.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Comedy.
Theo Von
Mark Norman. Thanks so much, dude. You have your new series that's on YouTube.
Mark Norman
It's on Punch Up Live, which is like a paywall kind of thing. So go to punchuplive.com page of stage.
Theo Von
Okay. Page to stage.
Mark Norman
You got it.
Theo Von
And. And you have your two podcast Tuesdays with stories.
Mark Norman
Yeah. Yep. And we might be drunk.
Theo Von
We might be drunk. Mark Norman, thanks so much, dude. Have a blast at Kill Tony, man. And we can even say you're doing it. And.
Mark Norman
Yeah.
Theo Von
Who that, dude?
Mark Norman
Who that for life. Good to see you, buddy.
Theo Von
You too, man. Thank you, bro.
Mark Norman
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Theo Von
I reach that ground I'll share this.
Mark Norman
Peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones but it's gonna take.
Theo Von
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Podcast Summary: This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von – Episode E574 featuring Mark Normand
Release Date: April 8, 2025
Guest: Mark Normand
Host: Theo Von
Description: A deep dive into what happened over the past weekend with Theo Von and his guest, stand-up comedian Mark Normand. The episode explores their personal lives, comedy careers, societal observations, and light-hearted banter interspersed with humorous anecdotes.
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Comedy as a Reflection of Society: Both Theo Von and Mark Normand use humor to explore and critique societal norms, highlighting how comedy serves as a mirror to our collective experiences and challenges.
The Evolution of Personal Relationships: Parenthood significantly alters personal dynamics, as discussed by Mark, emphasizing the balance between professional life and family responsibilities.
Impact of Digital Media: The rise of digital platforms has democratized content creation but also introduced new challenges, including increased polarization and the pressure to navigate controversial topics carefully.
Entrepreneurship in Comedy: Mark Normand’s venture into creating a whiskey brand showcases the entrepreneurial spirit within the comedy community, blending personal interests with business endeavors.
Societal Divisions and Identity Politics: The conversation underscores the growing divisions based on opinions rather than traditional societal factors like race, suggesting a shift in how conflicts are framed and perceived.
Episode E574 of This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von featuring Mark Normand offers an engaging mix of personal stories, comedic insights, and societal commentary. The dynamic between Theo and Mark provides listeners with both laughter and thoughtful reflections on the evolving landscape of comedy, personal relationships, and societal challenges. For fans of stand-up comedy and those interested in the behind-the-scenes of a comedian's life, this episode serves as a rich and entertaining listen.
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Note: This summary is based on the provided transcript and aims to capture the essence of the conversation between Theo Von and Mark Normand while highlighting key discussions and humorous exchanges.