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Lawrence Leisman
Throw gang. We are joined by the bare nibs Baron, Lawrence Lossman and myself, the square toad sultan, James Harris. Welcome to the weekly run in the woods with today's flip on only mail
James Harris
on www.throwingfits.com before we get into Jonah
Lawrence Leisman
Hill for kith AP X watch. How do you say AP Audemars PJ how did. What was Google telling you? It's like piggy owl.
James Harris
I mean I could look it up. Should we get it how to pronounce? Oh, here we go. Let me get my volume fully blasted for the fret. For the folks at
Lawrence Leisman
Audemars Pegue X swatch and breaking machines at the gym, let's get into a fit check.
James Harris
I am wearing the bally plume loafers. Their words. These are boat shoes. Let's be clear.
Lawrence Leisman
Bally's Swiss. Yeah, yeah, these are like Swiss German Loafer means boat shoe or something.
James Harris
Maybe. I mean do they got a lot of boats in Switzerland?
Lawrence Leisman
They got lakes and.
James Harris
Yeah. Okay. I mean here's the deal, right? They're the nicest, fanciest boat shoes that I finally found on sale. I've been wanting these. Where you find them Far fetch little with a. With a good amount shaved off the
Lawrence Leisman
top now but is far fetched a store or an aggregator.
James Harris
These came from Bally so I think they're just like. They're like a way station.
Lawrence Leisman
No, they're just an aggregator of. Of. Of.
James Harris
Yeah, listings. I guess I thought it was more of like a clearinghouse because like they're not on sale on Bally's website. Is it like a place to list dregs and like, like, you got a new colorway. We want to move these loafers? Slash boat shoes.
Lawrence Leisman
I don't know.
James Harris
Anyway, I got a steel. They are very nice. I love them. But they're definitely boat shoes. Let's.
Lawrence Leisman
It's a marketplace.
James Harris
What the does that mean, dude?
Lawrence Leisman
So they don't sell the. They just like. They're literally just like. They aggregate the links of whatever you're looking for.
James Harris
Okay, well, when I do Google shopping, I'm looking for something at the lowest price. A lot of times it happens to be farfetched. Yeah. So to me it always seemed like some type of elephant graveyard island of lost toys for like sale items from high end brands. But maybe again there's could be.
Lawrence Leisman
I think it's like the same as list specific.
James Harris
Well, I thought list was like a data farming thing, an aggregator of consumer data.
Lawrence Leisman
It's shopping. But then they use the consumer data and shopping habits to then like put out those reports that are just like all fake. Anyway.
James Harris
But if I bought bots. Yeah, shout out to your fucking rankings, guys. If I bought something. Something from list. I'm not getting list packaging. Right, Just like with far fetch.
Lawrence Leisman
No, it's just an intermediary.
James Harris
Okay. Anyway, thank you to Bally for putting these on sale so I could finally get them and keep the boat shoe train moving.
Lawrence Leisman
Sailing.
James Harris
Sailing. Dude, they're. I mean, they're.
Lawrence Leisman
You know, you'd say bisexual in French.
James Harris
How?
Lawrence Leisman
By steam or by sale?
James Harris
That is not true.
Lawrence Leisman
Yes, it is.
James Harris
Wait, really?
Lawrence Leisman
Yeah. You think I just do that?
James Harris
Wait, so. So if you're in France and you said exactly what you just said with that enunciation, they would know what you're talking about? Yeah.
Lawrence Leisman
Oh, he. He gets there by steam or by sale.
James Harris
But they're. But they're not speaking English or speaking French.
Lawrence Leisman
Okay, translate that to French. What do you. I don't understand how you're not.
James Harris
I'm trying to know how to say bisexual in French.
Lawrence Leisman
By steamer. By sale. The French version. Does that help?
James Harris
Got it. So it's. So it's an idiom like, he's a little light in the loafers.
Lawrence Leisman
Le retard.
James Harris
The. They're kind of dainty too.
Lawrence Leisman
I don't know. Dainty?
James Harris
Yeah, I'm a fan. Comfy? Not particularly, but they're not. But they're not uncomfortable. Does that make sense?
Lawrence Leisman
Super thin?
James Harris
Yeah, I think that's the point?
Lawrence Leisman
Super bisexual.
James Harris
I don't think these are made for any deck, whether on land, by sea, or by sale.
Lawrence Leisman
Just dick.
James Harris
Yeah. The socks, which I'm saying are socks that are fun but not fun socks. Yep. Are by Dante, who also make my underwear as well.
Lawrence Leisman
Nice.
James Harris
Royal blue. This is a new brand that I discovered. And by discovered, I mean they sent me free socks and underwear, so I'm wearing them on the show. Where do you stand on a pop of color on the ankle? Is this fun? Are these fun socks? What are you thinking? What's your. What's your gut tell you?
Lawrence Leisman
I think you're on the right side of the divide.
James Harris
Okay. I can.
Lawrence Leisman
Especially with the. With the brown and the tonal blues and, like, the kind of just all blue, brown fit going.
James Harris
Try. I was trying to do a thing to be clear.
Lawrence Leisman
Like, what thing was that?
James Harris
Mix it in brown with the blue. Oh, well, I'm succeeding. I'm not colorblind, so I'm succeeding. I would say that the what up with the hat, the sunglasses, which are thistles, are black and brown. So altogether in the. That we put on Instagram.
Lawrence Leisman
Okay.
James Harris
Your boy does not miss.
Lawrence Leisman
But how do. Is that how you say it in French? That was weird, bro. That was. That was a little stroke moment.
James Harris
No, I was just try. I was trying to understand. I'm not the smartest tool in the shed, dude. Yeah. Trying to understand. I think what separates a fun pair of socks from fun socks is a pattern. Right. If you got stripes. Nah.
Lawrence Leisman
Color, too.
James Harris
Well, if these were any other primary color, it's the same thing. Right. It can't just be like, blue is good and red is bad.
Lawrence Leisman
Red, purple, bright green.
James Harris
That's more pop of color and that. And that's where it becomes whack in your mind.
Lawrence Leisman
I guess.
James Harris
So I think it's got to be if it's stripes or. Or dot, polka dots. Mic. But I kind of like them. I would do a micro dot. I don't know.
Lawrence Leisman
A is how you say by steam or by sail.
James Harris
Got it.
Lawrence Leisman
Which figuratively in contemporary French means bisexual.
James Harris
Got it, got it.
Lawrence Leisman
Okay. Does that help?
James Harris
Yeah, it's a French idiom. Sorry, I thought you were literally speaking
Lawrence Leisman
French by steam or.
James Harris
Okay. It's a reference to aquatic travel. Correct.
Lawrence Leisman
Nautical travel.
James Harris
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lawrence Leisman
Boats that go by steam or by sail.
James Harris
I think what confused me, if we really want to dig into this is you said, you know how you say it in French. If you had said, you know how they say it in France. So that's where I got. I was thought. I thought you were going to literally speak French to me or so right
Lawrence Leisman
over your fun head.
James Harris
Yeah. Moving on up from the side.
Lawrence Leisman
You're saying black isn't fun?
James Harris
What the fuck?
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James Harris
Moving on up from the socks that are fun but not fun socks. I have on our legacy Emporio Armani jeans. The sweater. My favorite sweater. Wearing it again. Uru. I think there might be. They're sold out everywhere. I think there is a few left on Haven. Check Farfetch in a size one. Yeah. Or check far. I don't know.
Lawrence Leisman
Don't check Farfetch. I think Farfetch and Lister are technically evil.
James Harris
Okay, well, shit, my bad. Earlier. Shouting them out.
Lawrence Leisman
Well, they just like squeeze out the little guy, right? And they're always surfacing. Like they are always surfacing. The big dogs. The big retailers that maybe we do ad reads for.
James Harris
I don't know. Gotcha. I got this at and Son, a small independent retailer here in New York City.
Lawrence Leisman
A male owned retail.
James Harris
And if you would like to support a Canadian owned retailer that has two locations, white male store owners in Toronto and Vancouver. Shout out to Haven. They have their poc.
Lawrence Leisman
They're Waysians fellow.
James Harris
That is Right. Shout out to the. Shout out to the twins.
Lawrence Leisman
They're not twins.
James Harris
Shout out to the bros.
Lawrence Leisman
They came up to me at the van saying, by the way, we're not twins.
James Harris
Oh, you said that. You said that as well.
Lawrence Leisman
I was like, you guys are twins, right? They're like, no, we're like seven years apart or something. Not that crazy.
James Harris
They both look young and they're young at heart.
Lawrence Leisman
Shout out Arthur and Doug.
James Harris
Anyway, Haven has, I think the only ones left that you can get in
Lawrence Leisman
the entire world and they won't chafe your pepperoni nippies.
James Harris
No, dude, though, I think that working out is like getting my.
Lawrence Leisman
You have callous nips.
James Harris
No, it's getting my. It's getting my right and tight.
Lawrence Leisman
Dude, that's the whole point of working out now.
James Harris
I know. What do you mean? It's amazing. I can wear sweaters now. A whole new timeline has been unlocked. One in which I wear sweaters.
Lawrence Leisman
You couldn't wear sweaters before.
James Harris
It would. It would really, really be sweater dependent. Silhouet dependent. Polos too.
Lawrence Leisman
Huh?
James Harris
Polos. T shirts, sweaters. I was. You know, honestly, if you thought I got fits off, you ain't seen nothing yet. Because I was severely handicapped and limited.
Lawrence Leisman
Yeah. This might. This guy. You might see this guy wearing a
James Harris
polo because of my breasts.
Lawrence Leisman
I don't understand that. But we'll keep it moving.
James Harris
The. The shape. The shape and size of my same
Lawrence Leisman
big guys can't wear.
James Harris
No, I'm saying for me personally, I didn't feel comfortable wearing a variety of tops because of my chest.
Lawrence Leisman
Okay.
James Harris
Which is now hopefully being toned and maybe shrunk.
Lawrence Leisman
Take your sweater off. Since you're not wearing a shirt.
James Harris
Take it off. Yo. Imagine. I will never do that. I'll never.
Lawrence Leisman
We joke your sweater in the pool.
James Harris
You know how like you were saying, like there's all these like stages of workout guy, like the content they post. Even if I got into like dream shape, I don't think I could ever be the guy that would even just sneak in a shirtless pic with the right context, like at the beach on Instagram.
Lawrence Leisman
Is that the next stage in your fitness content journey?
James Harris
I think that if I got there, that would only be for myself and the people in my personal life that would see me shirtless. To know. I don't think I would broadcast out to the world though. I do remember when I was jacked in college taking a lot of shirtless pics for Facebook albums.
Lawrence Leisman
Wow, those are still out there.
James Harris
Yeah, Anyone can go and they look great.
Lawrence Leisman
Find the Wayback Machine and surface those.
James Harris
I think it's a private. I think it purposely private in my face.
Lawrence Leisman
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James Harris
The hat on the fun head is Sorbara's. The sunglasses are thistles. The underwear, like I said, also Dante's. And that's everything. James.
Lawrence Leisman
I'm wearing these square toed shoes from Pen that we secured last summer at Copenhagen Fashion Week. I think that they're iterating on the footwear and growing slowly as a category. The socks are up there. Oh, look, they're down there, but they're up there.
James Harris
They're kind of fun. Got the branding on them. Those are. Those are quite a good time.
Lawrence Leisman
Are they?
James Harris
I think so.
Lawrence Leisman
Dark gray socks.
James Harris
Yeah. Because of the. The graphic.
Lawrence Leisman
Oh, okay.
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Date: May 15, 2026
Hosts: Lawrence Leisman & James Harris
Episode Theme:
A casual, humorous exploration of the current menswear and style landscape, with tangents into language, fitness, retail economics, and the oddities of online shopping.
This episode of Throwing Fits focuses chiefly on the hosts’ signature "fit check" ritual, spinning out into a series of jokes, opinions, and inside-baseball observations about contemporary men’s fashion, e-commerce, body image, and international idioms. As always, the show is rife with banter, playful roasting, and authentic self-deprecation, all while maintaining a light but critical eye on the culture around them.
Lawrence and James detail their outfits in real time while riffing on various clothing brands and the concept of “fun socks.”
James’ Fit:
Lawrence’s Fit:
A good-natured but critical breakdown of how aggregators and marketplaces operate:
A playful back-and-forth on language, stemming from the French idiom "by steam or by sail" as a metaphor for bisexuality. The jokes escalate as they poke fun at misunderstandings and translation quirks.
James opens up about how working out is gradually expanding his wardrobe options, specifically sweaters and polos previously off-limits due to self-consciousness about his chest.
Both hosts champion smaller, independent retailers (like “and Son” in NYC and “Haven” in Canada) over global aggregators, weaving in details about store owners and personal anecdotes about attempted twin-spotting.
This episode encapsulates the essence of Throwing Fits: relatable (and vividly detailed) conversations about clothes, quietly sharp commentaries on retail and internet culture, plus plenty of banter that blurs earnestness with irony. The fit checks aren’t just about style—they open doors to broader cultural observations, with just enough self-awareness to keep it fun and never too serious.