*PATREON PREVIEW* Gossip With an Agenda

Summary

Throwing Fits: PATREON PREVIEW Gossip With an Agenda

Release date: November 12, 2025
Hosts: Jimmy and Larry

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Overview

This bonus, boys-only midweek episode of Throwing Fits brings the hosts Jimmy and Larry together for an unfiltered and idiosyncratic rundown of recent events, personal observations, and pop-culture minutiae, immediately following their podcast session with Rachel Sennott (in preparation for her Fallon appearance). The episode is an intimate, behind-the-paywall chat that floats from fashion fit checks to musings on genetics, internet gossip, and the ever-changing zeitgeist—with a heavy dose of signature irreverence.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Vibes and Fit Check (01:00–03:13)

• Unfiltered atmosphere: The hosts lean into the "bonus content" energy, signaling to listeners this is unscripted, off-the-cuff, and for the true besties.
• Jimmy and Larry open with a pseudo-fit check:
  • Larry flexes vintage Gucci loafers from the Tom Ford era ("Vintage Gucci by Tom Ford loafers. Thank you." – Larry, 01:42).
    • He likes the "square tail" and lug sole, joking about how every extra inch helps when meeting certain guests.
    • Jimmy jokes in kind: "You can always use a few extra inches." (02:04)
• Height talk: They riff on the surprising number of tall male podcast guests and reflect on their own statures and podcast host stereotypes.

2. Twin Boom and Height Theories (02:27–05:11)

• Jimmy’s “twins everywhere” theory:
  • He notices a disproportionate number of twins among younger people, especially at a recent dinner where multiple guests turn out to be twins (or closely related to them).
  • Ponders whether IVF, older maternal ages, changes in diet (corn, processed milk, more meat), or other environmental factors explain the uptick.
    • "Never go with numbers, only go with vibes." (Jimmy, 02:27)
  • Larry cheekily interjects: "Yeah. Cuz twins are mutant freaks." (04:43)
• Speculative deep dive:
  • Jimmy wonders if the prevalence of tall dudes among Gen Z is linked to dietary or environmental changes of the last few decades.
  • Larry’s counterpoint: Modern environmental and dietary degradation should theoretically shrink, not grow, young men. He cites a recent study suggesting testosterone rates in Gen Z are plummeting: "A Gen Z-er has the equivalent testosterone of a 72-year-old man." (Larry, 04:36)
  • Jimmy pushes back, suggesting it’s not today’s kids but those born ~30 years ago who benefited.

3. Fashion, Vanity, and the CFDA Awards (05:11–07:05)

• Aesthetic self-consciousness: Larry admits to boosting his own height when a "short queen" visits the pod.
  • "What, that I'm a vain narcissist? Like, come on, bro." (Larry, 05:25)
• Tom Ford-era Gucci nostalgia: The hosts reminisce about the cut and style of that period, agreeing runway clothes don’t fit their own bodies due to their “healthy diet”—more Chef Boyardee than kale salad.
  • Larry details his childhood diet: "Chef Boyardee, quick little, like, you’re home from school, put it in the microwave or like Celeste pizzas, Lean Cuisines…" (Larry, 05:49)
• Current fit details: Larry’s wearing Eckhaus Latta double-knees, but downplays the rest ("On my unbranded shit. Doesn't even matter. We can move on.") (Larry, 06:08)
• CFDA Menswear Awards: They discuss the perceived legitimacy of fashion awards and speculate on recent winners.
  • Tom Browne, as head of the CFDA, is joked about: "He gives himself the award." (Jimmy, 06:56)
  • ASAP Rocky’s “Icon Award” is also celebrated with typical Throwing Fits exuberance.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Never go with numbers, only go with vibes.”
  — Jimmy, on his off-the-cuff theory about twins (02:27)
• “Yeah. Cuz twins are mutant freaks.”
  — Larry, always ready to roast (04:43)
• “A Gen Z-er has the equivalent testosterone of a 72-year-old man.”
  — Larry, referencing a viral stat (04:36)
• “What, that I'm a vain narcissist? Like, come on, bro.”
  — Larry, fully self-aware (05:25)
• “He gives himself the award.” — Jimmy, on Tom Browne’s role in the CFDA (06:56)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:00 — Episode begins, bonus episode intro
• 01:40-01:47 — Larry details his fit (Gucci loafers)
• 02:27-03:02 — Jimmy recounts the “twin” phenomenon at a recent dinner
• 04:34-05:04 — Debate over Gen Z height and testosterone theories
• 05:49–06:08 — Childhood diet recollections and its impact on fitting into designer clothes
• 06:47–07:05 — Jokes about the CFDA awards, Tom Browne, and ASAP Rocky

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Tone & Style

• Irreverent and teasing: Both Jimmy and Larry maintain a casual, roast-heavy dynamic, mixing banter with occasional self-deprecation.
• Rich in pop culture and fashion references: The hosts assume insider knowledge and play to their engaged Patreon audience.
• Spontaneous and meandering: The episode feels like spending time with two witty friends, zigzagging from one hot take to the next.

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For Listeners

If you’re after structured debate, this episode is delightfully chaotic, focused on vibes and in-jokes as much as topical conversation. But for fans of Throwing Fits, this is classic "boys only" content: a peek behind the scenes at the running commentary that defines their community.

Transcript

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[Jimmy]

To the afters midweek boys only episode.

[Larry]

Nailed it.

[Jimmy]

Little throwback. Yeah. Uncut bonus content with Jimmy and Larry for a besties behind the paywall after podcasting with Rachel Senate for her Fallon pregame. Is this her?

[Larry]

Dude, stop it. No, she had that. She. You're the only one who drinks lime grapefruit, which is. Oh, grapefruit. You know, she got it.

[Jimmy]

Just because I'm, I'm doing my part to work through the nine cases of twisted grapefruit we have over there.

[Larry]

That's a good flavor. It's not twist of ass like lime.

[Commercial Announcer]

Not hers.

[Jimmy]

That's mine.

[Larry]

In front of the paywall. Kidding. Or otherwise us being the.

[Jimmy]

Before we get into that. Oh, let's do a little fit check.

[Larry]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Larry]

Larry.

[Jimmy]

Oh, what are those?

[Larry]

I like them. These are vintage Gucci by Tom Ford loafers. Thank you.

[Jimmy]

Well, square tail.

[Larry]

Yeah, the. With a lug sole big ass heel. The. Well, listen, I'm comfortable. Yeah, I would be lying if I didn't say that like, oh, I wouldn't mind some extra inches of height to meet Rachel properly in person. Why not?

[Jimmy]

You know, you can always use a few extra inches.

[Larry]

What's truly. What's crazy to me is the amount of tall ass dudes that come on the show like while like not just like above average like six two and up. And I feel like week in and week out, people just look at us as if we were like your typical standard 57 podcasters. And we are no 5 7.

[Jimmy]

So I was talking about. I was talking so apparently not. Apparently there has been a. This is all anecdotal, all gut, all vibes. But that's the only thing. Never go with numbers, only go with vibes. The amount of twins that exist on this earth has like exploded for people that are like 30ish and under.

[Larry]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

Last night I was at this dinner. The person across from me shout out Eliza and cake zine. Get familiar.

[Larry]

Is it about cakes? Is zen about cakes.

[Jimmy]

It's about like, it's about like, it's literary. Food zine. Sounds like heady.

[Larry]

Sounds like I'm not the target market. But you love food, not heady. You love cake, not heady food. And you don't like reading other pictures or driving other pictures in the zine.

[Jimmy]

It's a coloring book. Okay, so she's a twin, right? The dude next to her, my homie Greg, he's a twin. His wife's mom is a twin, the wife's brother in law is a twin. And so there's something where. And I was like, what the happened like 30ish years ago that must have like changed whether it's diet or it's one IVF.

[Larry]

Oh sure.

[Jimmy]

Right.

[Larry]

Yep.

[Jimmy]

Two women having pregnancies later in life, like into their 30s.

[Larry]

Yeah. Cuz twins are mutant freaks.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. And not, not just popping them out, you know, when they can vote or drink. I guess. And yeah. So I wonder if there's was something and I. There has to have been something from like dudes that are, let's say 30 and younger that like from not like the northeast, that aren't like nebbishy little people from the shtetl and like.

[Larry]

Bro, come on.

[Jimmy]

What?

[Larry]

Keep going.

[Jimmy]

Oh, do you want to cut that part out too?

[Larry]

Oh, we're keeping that in Jesus.

[Jimmy]

Or like city folk. Right. That are like that something like whether it's the corn or processed milk.

[Larry]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Or processed foods or just like meat. Like people just eating more meat. Anyway, that's why, that's my theory and why there's been so many tall dudes recently.

[Larry]

But what's crazy is that like what you're saying like tracks and makes sense, but at the same time you'd think that like.

[Jimmy]

No, we're old, we're too old for it. We missed.

[Larry]

No, no, no. What I mean is that this whole like this new study that came out where it's like testosterone has decreased every year for the past 30 years and a Gen Z or has the equivalent testosterone of a 72 year old man.

[Jimmy]

Oh yeah, you also saw that complex post But.

[Larry]

But just basically saying that as the quality of food and life in our environment has decreased, I wouldn't expect Gen Z or young people, men to be taller. I would expect them to be shorter.

[Jimmy]

Why? Just because, like, eating more. They're eating more milk, more protein, more milk, more.

[Larry]

They're feeding kids David bars again.

[Jimmy]

It's not right now. It's whatever happened 30 years ago. So 1995.

[Larry]

My point is just like, yo, if we know that a short queen is coming on the pod, I'm gonna boost myself up.

[Jimmy]

And that's insane. That's insane that that thought actually goes through.

[Larry]

What, that I'm a vain narcissist? Like, come on, bro.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, you're right. That's cruising out. Okay, so, yo, Tom Ford Gucci, why don't you make that your new Armani? I can see that. That could be cool. The Runway clothes, is it too, like, skinny and sexy?

[Larry]

They do not fit the way that I was built based on my healthy diet of. They really have.

[Jimmy]

When you're a Y N in the shtetl. Yeah, when you're a yj.

[Larry]

Yj, Larry, Definitely. Well, skim milk. As we've talked about the show before, the big thing that I was allowed to have it, like, looking back because I couldn't have really like, fruit snacks or like sugar cereal or anything like, fun. But weirdly, because of having a working mom, it was a lot of like Chef Boyardee, like, quick little, like, you're home from school, like, put it in the microwave or like Celeste pizzas, Lean Cuisines that Because of my diet there. No, I cannot really fit into much besides the footwear from the Tom Ford Gucci era. The socks are. I have no idea. Just today I'm on my unbranded shit. Doesn't even matter. We can move on. The double knees are eckhouse Lotta.

[Jimmy]

Did they win best menswear designer last night or they. They were awarded it last night.

[Larry]

No, I think they did not win. No, I think that was more of like when Sam Hein is promoing that. He's like, in his mind, they're the best.

[Jimmy]

No, no, it's. I'm not going off the same high profile. I'm going off.

[Larry]

They did not win. No, I don't believe. So who won this fake award by the cfda? Yeah, who won best menswear?

[Jimmy]

That's like.

[Larry]

What's so crazy is CFDA winners were. Tom Brown won something. He always wins.

[Jimmy]

I mean.

[Larry]

Yeah, he's the president of this. He gives himself the award.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Ralph Lauren Women's Wear Designer of the Year.

[Larry]

Hell, yeah. I know. Asap. Rocky got the icon award.

[Jimmy]

Wait, I'm on fashion magazine dot com.

[Larry]

Sick.

[Jimmy]

Hell, yeah.