Throwing Fits – PATREON PREVIEW: Let the Meat Talk
Hosts: James Harris & Lauren Schlossman
Date: November 14, 2025
Overview
This episode is a laid-back, irreverent, and quintessentially “Throwing Fits” dive into the current menswear zeitgeist, viral trends, food culture, and media hype cycles. James and Lauren riff through personal style choices, recent events, New York City charitable efforts, memorable foodie nights, the strengths and weak points of TV discourse, and even the Epstein email dump. Their banter remains both self-deprecating and self-aware, poking fun at their own relevance, the cycles of hype, and the sometimes performative nature of trendsetting.
Key Topics & Discussion Points
1. Housekeeping and Community Activism
[01:34–05:50]
- Charity Closet Sale:
- James is selling clothes for charity at Colbo, Brooklyn, Sun 12–6pm to benefit One Love Community Fridge.
- Shoppers can bring $5 or canned goods for entry and unlimited beer.
- Notable brands available: Our Legacy, CP Company, Stussy.
- “Stay tuned on how to save Lawrence’s marriage with your closet sale charity cause.” – Lauren [05:40]
- Shout-outs and Partnerships:
- Ongoing private menswear sale with Marche Det Dento, accessible to listeners, esp. EU audience.
- Praise for new Barcelona store: “We weren’t being hyperbolic … this is the best new store in the world.” – Lauren [01:59]
2. Fit Check & Menswear Deep-Dive
[06:26–29:45]
- Lawrence’s Fit:
- Add Some x Sanders derbies
- Our Legacy Workshop jeans, Emporio Armani, Bare Knuckles thermal, Skims underwear
- Mon Italy “dick dangle” belt (“phallus in nature for sure") [20:18]
- “It’s just so flagrant … Do you not know? Why do you do it?” – James, on Lawrence’s penis-dangling belt style [09:42]
- James’s Fit:
- Rear Solomon hiking boots (“weirdly comforting to already know what shoes to wear”), Orley jeans, Our Legacy Workshop belt, vintage Barney’s sweater.
- Discusses need for a belt after two weeks off alcohol: “Shedding lbs like I’m running a slant route, baby.” [19:19]
- Fashion Hot Takes:
- Micro-discussion of how some looks/styles propagate as “trends” from insular social media feedback loops:
- “There’s such a thing as being so tapped in that you’re tapped out.” – James [13:45]
- Salem merchandise as “vintage grail” among young, terminally online heads.
- In-depth on menswear House of MiG, MF Pen, Barney's in-house, and department store “white label” brands gaining vintage popularity.
- Micro-discussion of how some looks/styles propagate as “trends” from insular social media feedback loops:
3. Banter: Micro Penis, Hitler Jokes, and What “Dick Dangle” Belt Means
[20:11–25:07]
- Absurd Digression:
- Riff on belts as phallic signifiers, then rapid left-turn into reports about Hitler’s anatomy:
- “Apparently … he has one or two testicles that are still up in his … hand. And … a micropenis.” – James [21:01]
- “Imagine however many years after your death, they sequence your genome and be like, ‘Yeah, you had a tiny ass, dude.’ That’s some real hater shit even for Hitler.” – Lauren [22:31]
- Lawrence explains “jelqing” from a GQ article (penis-lengthening exercises):
- “You can like add length and girth to your flaccid penis; it’s called jelqing.” [24:09]
- Riff on belts as phallic signifiers, then rapid left-turn into reports about Hitler’s anatomy:
4. Foodie Adventures: Wild Cherry, Mr. Porter Dinner, & Luger's
[29:45–52:07]
- Wild Cherry @ A24 (with Mr. Porter):
- Attended soft opening; menu designed by ex-McNally chefs (famous for Minetta Black Label burger).
- Lawrence: “I was blown away they took a burger everyone loves … and made it even better.” [46:31]
- Brand dinner atmosphere more hang than formal, generational mix in the room.
- James: Chose halibut over burger for a “healthier choice.”
- Department Store Vintage:
- Both hosts discuss swooping Barney’s-era in-house pieces at S&S shop.
- “There’s a lot of [Barneys in-house] out there. People really like it … as the Armani or vintage Ralph wells dry up, there’s a lot of it.” – James [55:27]
- Peter Luger’s Lunch:
- Discussion on the sanctity of a thick patty (“puck patty”) burger in NYC food culture.
- “Let the beef speak. Let the meat talk.” – Lauren [51:49]
- Smashburgers Saturation:
- Lauren: “The thick burger is suddenly so special again because of the sheer amount of smash burgers … we’ve reached peak smashburger.” [50:15]
5. Menswear Digressions & Book Reviews
[52:53–60:44]
- Barney’s Memoir “Schlock”:
- James: “I tried reading it … gave up after 70 pages. This is just self dick-suckery to the maximum.” [54:08]
- Store Brands as the Next Wave?:
- Lauren predicts in-house lines from vintage department stores will be the next menswear trend (“I don’t want to be the brand proclamation guy, but …” [56:37]), noting figures like Kathleen and Chad Sinzel pushing this wave.
6. Pop Culture & TV Discourse: Hype Cycles, New Releases, & Recaps
[60:56–76:03]
- Overhyped TV Trends:
- Both hosts riff on the performativity of TV “discourse”—heavily hyped, binary takes (“classic / trash”).
- What They’re Watching:
- Death by Lightning: (Netflix historical drama)
- Lauren: Enjoys stylized liberties, calls it bingeable.
- James: “A lot of intense white guys … I was just making lunch, like, Tom from Succession, what the…”
- Vince Staples Show:
- Compared to Atlanta in terms of structure and tone, though Lauren hesitates to equate them directly.
- Death by Lightning: (Netflix historical drama)
- All’s Fair (Kim Kardashian, Ryan Murphy):
- “The best show on TV right now besides Real Housewives … Scripted – All's Fair.” – James [63:16]
- James: “Kim Kardashian is like the worst actress of all time … But you can tell the cast had so much fun.” – [66:17]
- Lauren: “I see the potential. It’s campy, right?” [66:17]
- Pluribus (Vince Gilligan’s new show):
- Both bullish, but James tempers “goaded” reactions until more than two episodes air:
- “I just hope it’s not the Geese-ification of TV, where it’s like ‘greatest show ever’ after two episodes.” – James [74:02]
- Lauren: “I’m crazy bullish … I hope I’m not let down.” [71:33]
- Hot take on TV reviews’ hype cycles:
- “Everything is just so extreme … Watch it first.” – James [74:49]
- Both bullish, but James tempers “goaded” reactions until more than two episodes air:
7. Current Events: Epstein Emails & the Nature of Digital Discourse
[76:12–83:13]
- Discussion of the recent Congressional dump of emails related to Jeffrey Epstein—
- Lauren muses: “If the three worst emails about you were released, what would they say about you?” [77:08]
- James and Lauren both riff on old email/IM logs, “Karen emails,” and how archives can skew public image.
- They poke fun at the theatricality of the Trump–Epstein linkage, expressing skepticism at the quantity (“Isn’t it suspicious there’s only three? You’d think there’d be more.” – Lauren [82:01])
- “Be on the lookout—hopefully more emails, hopefully more vintage Barneys, hopefully more events to correspond from…” – James [82:50]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “There’s such a thing as being so tapped in that you’re tapped out.” – James [13:45]
- “It’s just so flagrant … Like, do you not know? Why do you do it?” – James, on Laurence’s “dick dangle” belt [09:42]
- “Imagine … they sequence your genome and be like, ‘Yeah, you had a tiny ass, dude.’ That’s some real hater shit even for Hitler.” – Lauren [22:31]
- “Let the beef speak. Let the meat talk.” – Lauren [51:49]
- “I tried reading [the Barney’s memoir] … This is just self dick-suckery to the maximum.” – James [54:08]
- “The thick burger is suddenly so special again because … we’ve reached peak smashburger.” – Lauren [50:15]
- “Everything is just so extreme … Watch it first.” – James, on hyperbolic TV reviews [74:49]
- “The best show on TV right now besides Real Housewives … Scripted – All's Fair.” – James (deadpan) [63:16]
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Charity Sale & Housekeeping: [01:34–05:50]
- Fit Check & Belt Digression: [06:26–29:45]
- Micro Penis, Hitler DNA, Jelqing: [20:11–25:07]
- Foodie Recap (Wild Cherry, Luger's): [29:45–52:07]
- Department Store Vintage Discussions: [52:53–60:44]
- TV, Pop Culture & Hype Cycles: [60:56–76:03]
- Epstein Emails & Digital Reputations: [76:12–83:13]
Tone & Style
- Sardonic, self-effacing, fast-paced banter
- Deep NYC cultural insider references
- Jokes about performativity, trend cycles, and their own relevancy
- Sometimes crude, always humorous, with persistent callbacks and in-jokes
For New Listeners
This episode is a masterclass in zeitgeist-skewering, food, and menswear banter. Even if you missed it:
- You’ll get the feeling of hanging out with two plugged-in, “dirtbag” fashion-and-culture heads who bring humor, sharp insights, and a willingness to both hype and undercut the trends and news they discuss.
- Come for the fit checks and food talk; stay for the performative meme dissection and sharp, nihilistic humor about everything from hit TV shows to Hitler’s anatomy.
End of Summary
