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Lauren Schlossom
Www.Thrillfits.Com your mind just to watch it happen in real time is what a treat guys.
James Harris
Thanks.
Lauren Schlossom
What a treat.
James Harris
Before we get into the menswear guy getting doxed, the Epstein emails and the best and worst worst TV shows on right now.
Lauren Schlossom
Or apparently both of the best TV shows.
James Harris
Yes.
Lauren Schlossom
Depends on your metric, I guess.
James Harris
Yeah, let's get to a fit check.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, housekeeping after fit check or you want to do housekeeping now?
James Harris
Let's do some housekeeping. Okay guys, we currently have a private sale going on with Marche Det Dento general mig. If you're nasty all my European gang tap in let me know how my pronunciation was 30% off the whole fucking site. Brand new store in Barcelona. Brain list Crazy.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, this is Stein. We weren't being hyperbolic. This this is. This is uncut Stein. I don't think we were being hyperbolic in the copy on socials when we said that this is the best new store in the world. Shout out to our friends at mig. Congratulations on the launch of the shop. Congratulations on the web store. Hopefully all of you guys are absolutely pilfering and using that code to make up for all the duties that you.
James Harris
No, no, no, no, no. I do. I do want to relay a comment that the MiG. The MiGmin left. We ship with DDP pause so you so all duties and taxes will be covered. I don't know what DDP means. Direct deposit payment. I don't know.
Lauren Schlossom
Now I'm. Now I'm hearing that basically it's free stein.
James Harris
Free stein.
Lauren Schlossom
We were, we were shopping before we got in here. I think we have a couple selects once we're done doing our actual be time for the fellas to tap in as well. Absolutely. What a brand list. Mf, pen, commission, stein, commission, rear. I know one of the. The best and brightest out of New York City and just a brand that if you're broke right now, can't afford it. Book market, they're adding a lot of hot soon too.
James Harris
Hot shit soon.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
If you'd rather have yourself an IRL shopping experience this Sunday, your boy Jimmy is. What?
Lauren Schlossom
Sorry, I was going to.
James Harris
I was shadow my food.
Lauren Schlossom
No, no, no. It was more like give me the. Give me the URL.
James Harris
Listen fellas.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
If you're hanging with us, you're like mom, Donnie, just hanging with the boys. It's weird out there. Weird times. Food insecurity all time high. So this Sunday, come shop my overflow of my everything in my closet at Cobo from noon to 6pm we're raising money and canned goods for One Love Community Fridge, which helps out folks here in Brooklyn get access to not just like, not just food but like, I don't know, nourishment, healthy stuff, good stuff. Rebuilding food ecosystems. So they put it. They do like, they work with restaurants to get like a lot of leftover produce and what would normally waste and like actually like make sure it gets the people that need it. Bring, bring five bucks or bring some canned goods and just shop till you fucking drop the free beer. So it's like you know, basically paying five bucks for like all you can drink beers.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, bring us, bring some dirty waters, bring some soup and leave with a sweater, you know, I don't know. I'm assuming there's going to be some knitwear in the mix for show. Yeah.
James Harris
All right, that's this Sunday.
Lauren Schlossom
Is it in the next door space?
James Harris
No, it is in the back of Colbo. So I'll be there. You know, send me five bucks on Venmo. 100% of the left at the most important part. 100% of all proceeds will go to One Love Community Fridge. Any. Any highlights of if you buy something you're sending money to, like.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah. Good. Cause even if you hate this guy, he's not getting anything out of this. You know, I gotta worry. What's any like John's highlights that you can give the people Anything. Not to put you on the spot, but what are we talking about? Maybe brands even.
James Harris
I don't know. I kind of, like, I went to the storage unit. I just put, like, all the good. All like, what I thought was the good in three gigantic bags. A lot of. A lot of our legacy.
Lauren Schlossom
Nice.
James Harris
A lot of CP company, a lot of stussy. Lot of stuff that just doesn't fit me anymore.
Lauren Schlossom
You have a storage unit?
James Harris
I have, like, a little, like, lockup cage in my basement.
Lauren Schlossom
Same, same, same. Yeah, I need to. You know, honestly, I need to start researching some good causes. I need to do a similar thing, mainly to save my marriage. Our second bedroom. SL closet. SL offices. It is out of control. It's a war zone.
James Harris
Stay tuned for that. Stay tuned on how to save Lawrence's marriage with your closet sale. Charity cause. Yeah, anyway, that's the Sunday I'm.
Lauren Schlossom
I'm the charity. Yeah.
James Harris
Here, Jenna, here's a bunch of money that.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah. That I.
James Harris
That I raised.
Lauren Schlossom
Please don't leave me. Here's money. That's usually how it works.
James Harris
Yeah.
Lauren Schlossom
For all of my personal relationships.
James Harris
Do your closet sale and then you raise funds for the divorce lawyer. The legal fees, you know, Yikes.
Lauren Schlossom
I mean, half. I mean, better call Saul. Or better call the women from the Kim Kardashian show.
James Harris
All is fair.
Lauren Schlossom
Are they divorce lawyers in the show?
James Harris
Better call Sarah Paulson. Better called Glenn.
Lauren Schlossom
Better call Paul.
James Harris
The cast is stacked. Anyway.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, we'll get into it later.
James Harris
Sunday, pull up, call.
Lauren Schlossom
What are the hours?
James Harris
12 to 12 to 6. It's. It's a good cause. So come shop. And all your money goes towards helping fight food insecurity here in Brooklyn, New York. Okay, fit check. Take it away, Lawrence.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, let's fight some other insecurity. What cool stuff did we wear today to feel good about ourselves on the feet? I am wearing the add some sanders collab. Split toe derbies, bro.
James Harris
Why don't you add some to your life?
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, add. Yo. That's a free one for the homies that add some very. I just think so.
James Harris
They're aware of that, are they? Yes.
Lauren Schlossom
Dude, have people made that joke before?
James Harris
Are you kidding me? Have you not?
Lauren Schlossom
Yes.
James Harris
Yes, they have.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, okay. All right. I'm giving you too much credit, I guess. Just a very. I would say an underrated brand that. I feel like it's always nice when an underrated, smaller brand gets their flowers next to all the big dogs that we shot on the show. So shout out. Add some. Shout out friends over there.
James Harris
Those are Nice.
Lauren Schlossom
Thank you.
James Harris
It's like a waxed white socks, though. But they're nice.
Lauren Schlossom
I need to do laundry, dude. So. Yeah, man. Read the White Sox or man, recently, I was gonna say is on a day like today where it was like hailing and then not hailing and then hailing again, it's like a waxed suede with like this nice kind of like crepe adjacent Vibram lug sole. So kind of perfect for bad weather. When you want to give the boots a rest, look into. Add some and Sanders. The jeans are our legacy workshop. Emporio Armani. The thermal is bare knuckles. The zip up hoodie with the intentionally small hood, even for my child. Child size.
James Harris
Worn it?
Lauren Schlossom
No, I wear it. You know, it's one of those things that I've talked about how I. You know, it's actually funny. I met one of the guys at VEN and I was like, you know, maybe this is poor form and a lack of decorum, but what else is new? I was like, yo, by the way, I have the hoodie, and we need to talk about the hood shape. I was like, I can't wear this.
James Harris
You love telling designers how to design their clothes.
Lauren Schlossom
Well, not how to design. It's constructive criticism.
James Harris
Sure. Yo, Brendan. Babinzine, bro. Yo, more pleats, dog.
Lauren Schlossom
More? No, more Popeye Graphics.
James Harris
No. You told him more pleats on the giant chinos?
Lauren Schlossom
No. Oh, that. Yes, that is.
James Harris
I know your design director, J. Crew. Why do you do double pleats, dog?
Lauren Schlossom
I would. It was just any pleats because the. They're flat fronts. They were at least when they launched. Yeah.
James Harris
More.
Lauren Schlossom
This is more of been relegated to like a.
James Harris
How did they take your constructive criticism? Yeah, man, we'll definitely take that under consideration.
Lauren Schlossom
For sure.
James Harris
For sure.
Lauren Schlossom
He's like, cool, dude. Nice to meet you. I don't know his French accent because it was the French guy. Alex, I believe. Yeah, yeah. Just a. Just a. Yeah. Maybe not the best first impression.
James Harris
Cool, dude. Nice to meet you. Also, nice bootleg hat.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, it was before I got the bootleg hat. Yeah. We don't need to talk about what they're. What they thought of those.
James Harris
Sure.
Lauren Schlossom
We can move on. I didn't make them, so I don't give a shout out to Chris Green.
James Harris
Thank you for that small hood, big hanging dick belt.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, yeah. The. The dick dangle belt is Mon Italy.
James Harris
I was. I was kind of happy that it felt like you had moved on from that style, little style maneuver, because I really do personally just don't like it. Yeah, that's.
Lauren Schlossom
Well, you know, when I get dressed, I always think about what you're going to say. I know.
James Harris
I know you do. I know you do. It's just so flagrant.
Lauren Schlossom
You know, it's right.
James Harris
Like, it's so like. Do you not know? Why do you do it? Can I just ask that?
Lauren Schlossom
Why? Well, it's.
James Harris
Just tell me about the Geese lyrics and then tell me why you decide to dick dangle the belt.
Lauren Schlossom
James made me recite Geese lyrics to him off mike last week to.
James Harris
No, that was on mike.
Lauren Schlossom
No, no, it was off. Like, thank God, bro.
James Harris
So we're like, yo, the lyrics are so fucking good. I'm like, all right, what are the lyrics?
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, which. Which is funny because you then today. Because I brought up again because it was so funny, because then I'm like, getting, like, emotional talking about how, like, it's like, so it's like, you can.
James Harris
But you'll still pick me.
Lauren Schlossom
You can change, but you can still choose me. I'm like, I don't know. Just very evocative. The kid is smart, Cameron Winter. Smart beyond his ears.
James Harris
Whatever.
Lauren Schlossom
But then you said it would be like if someone was like, yo, this rapper's got crazy bars. And then of course, you would say, okay, tell me some. No one would ever do that, by the way. They would just take it at face value. I feel like. Right? You know, like, has anyone ever said to you, yo, this guy, yo, this dude, SD kid is fucking sick, bro. Okay? He's got bars. Yeah. And then someone goes, okay, tell me some bars.
James Harris
Or like, you would play it for me.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, but.
James Harris
And then it's like, you're like, I might choose you even if you change. It's the way you are.
Lauren Schlossom
It's funny to me that, like, you clearly have not listened to the Geese record because he doesn't sound like. Yeah, how far do you get?
James Harris
I don't know.
Lauren Schlossom
Somewhere.
James Harris
Somewhere before the end, like two and nine.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, it is. It is crazy to see. I mean, you know, we're just riffing here. The Geese backlash already? Because, like, they. It was Nuke.
James Harris
Well, again, I don't think it.
Lauren Schlossom
No, no.
James Harris
It's like anything. It's like anything's days. I don't. I don't necessarily think that the backlash is against the band themselves. I think it's about the hype fact that people are like, yo, geese. I listen to Geese. I listen to the Case.
Lauren Schlossom
I saw that meme. That's pretty funny.
James Harris
I just didn't know. I listen to the Case that Guy.
Lauren Schlossom
Just does that, though, for. I saw the turnstile one as well.
James Harris
I just said the tape impal.
Lauren Schlossom
I need to know.
James Harris
I listen to the. The one man.
Lauren Schlossom
Bad tape. Apollo. Give me pussy. Give me pussy, please. That's the. So is the. The backlash or whatever is to the performative male who's like, signaling geese to, like, get bitches?
James Harris
No, I don't think it's performative male that's necessarily trying to get. Because, like, oh, girl. Oh, you like. Our girl's like, oh, my God. You like geese. I'm definitely gonna give you some pussy.
Lauren Schlossom
I think because, like, the. Cameron Winter is like a heartthrob and, like, people are really into the band, at least like Gen Z people, men.
James Harris
And women, and they're getting a wildly out of control. I just think that the backlash is more to the people that are so. Have such throbbing hard ons for Geese. Sure. That, you know, again, it's like album of the year. You have your hardo enthusiasts and then you have your hardo haters. And I think that it's just the. It crest back and forth and like the. The pendulum will surface one or the other. I mean, it's a very natural cycle. Like, okay, a thing happens. People are like, oh, my God, this is. Fuck. This is the greatest thing of all time. And it's like, yeah, chill.
Lauren Schlossom
Well, we'll apply that to television later. But hopefully I will be seeing Geese live two times next week, which I will happily talk about on the show next week. So get excited for that or be mad about that, but that's coming. The hat is small talk studio. The underwear are the thermal skims. Thermals. Bare knuckles underwear are skims.
James Harris
Very Jerry Lorenzo. Fear of God. Look.
Lauren Schlossom
Book one. Much more cropped, though. Not like, you know, I just meant like thermal. A river of butt wipes at of varying lengths.
James Harris
You know, hoodie.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, he. He very invented that.
James Harris
Very Jack Donaghue.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
Of Salem.
Lauren Schlossom
When was. Was Salem popular before Jerry Lorenzo brought back grunge and skinheads?
James Harris
Not to the extent that they became, but they were like, popping.
Lauren Schlossom
Do you. Do you clock how. Like, that's when.
James Harris
That's when they're three members.
Lauren Schlossom
Right. Have you clocked how like Salem merch for, like. I think a younger generation has become like this. Like these, like, vintage grails, in a way. Have you seen that at all?
James Harris
No, I've not clocked that.
Lauren Schlossom
Huh. Interesting. I have. Maybe I'm just following too many young children.
James Harris
So tapped in that Salem Mer.
Lauren Schlossom
Can you be. Can you be too tapped In.
James Harris
I think you are.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, I'm.
James Harris
I think you're so tapped in that you're tapped out.
Lauren Schlossom
I'm living in a, A prison of my own design and I don't know.
James Harris
I think you're tapped in that you've become.
Lauren Schlossom
I've like lost touch with reality where I'm like, yo, this is a trend. You're like, yeah, cuz three guys you follow for some reason.
James Harris
Exactly. You're like, yo, this is a thing. I'm like, I also saw that one tweet. So there's such a thing as like, being so tapped in that what you then to maybe like propagate your tapped in. This. You're just like constantly claiming what's a thing. I'm not saying this to you.
Lauren Schlossom
No, no.
James Harris
It's like a phenomenon, right? Where it's like, yo, this is the thing. This is the thing that just like feedback loop. Yeah. But it becomes, the feedback loop becomes smaller and smaller because you constantly need to be like, this is. Identify. Like, this is. Yo, geese. Yo, yo. Salem merch is a vintage.
Lauren Schlossom
It feels like a big thing.
James Harris
Salem merch is a vintage grill. Okay.
Lauren Schlossom
No, I, because just like thinking about now, the timing of things, and like, you're saying this is back when Salem was three people or whatever. Not that I was a fan, but I remember they were popular. It's. It's interesting to me how like, well, they're still, I think, relevant, right? Not even just how they've influenced music, but as this like, weird kind of like esthetic signifier of like, I'm wise beyond my years. I, I, it's like classic rock to them or something, right. Like, it's before their time. They were like, a lot. I feel like the young people that I'm seeing wearing a Salem hoodie, like, definitely were not listening to Salem when Salem was an active band. Because now they're, they're not active anymore, right?
James Harris
Yes, they are.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, they are, yeah. Oh, when they have new music out, it is.
James Harris
Yeah. They just had a new single. They're. I mean, is it bang? It's okay. They put out a. I think they put out a few songs. I don't know if it's an EP or an LP or what. They put out a album over the pandemic, 2022, where they're like storm chasing in the Midwest.
Lauren Schlossom
That's the concept. Or they're at the music video.
James Harris
In the music video, they're like, storm chasing her. That's like tornadoes. That's kind of like the background pickup Truck, which is pretty cool. What?
Lauren Schlossom
Witch House. Right? That was the genre.
James Harris
I think it's. That's what it was during, like, the SoundCloud era.
Lauren Schlossom
Okay.
James Harris
When they were kind of like, Jack was like, rapping Blog era.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
Yeah. And then it became more, I don't know, like vapor wave. Kind of like, interesting. I mean, he's still. I think he's. I don't know. I don't know how we got here.
Lauren Schlossom
I was just. I. I was talking.
James Harris
We were. What are we? Salem. Salem Merch. Vintage grails. For sure. For sure.
Lauren Schlossom
Keep going. Absolutely. That's the feedback. That's your feedback loop of the week.
James Harris
That's the tweet that Lawrence saw.
Lauren Schlossom
Yo. Every week I should have a little feedback loop corner where I just, like, take. Because three things make a trend. So I take something that I've seen and I just make a grand proclamation.
James Harris
Right. But you do that with one thing.
Lauren Schlossom
No, I would never. If I saw.
James Harris
That's. What do you mean?
Lauren Schlossom
That's what.
James Harris
That's what. That's is what you do every week.
Lauren Schlossom
Okay. I was just saying we could. We could professionalize it to even give.
James Harris
It more credence merch back.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, no, no, I. If I'm going to make said grand proclamations on the show, I am hope I am hopefully at least see. Trying to see three separate things that I can connect the dots on. You can't see one thing and make a bold claim. That's what podcasts that don't matter do. I hold ourselves and myself to a much higher standard. All right, that is my fit check. What about you, James, on the feats.
James Harris
Per usual, wearing Rear Solomon gtx, mbx, whatever the fucks. Still working on the heel with my boy Wes of Engineered Health.
Lauren Schlossom
How's that going?
James Harris
Not West Wilson. This. The Bravo House rally star and star of Wendy's commercials. My guy Wes in Little Rock, Arkansas. It's good. My calves are screaming right now. My hamstrings are torched from the. It's a process, the pt. Or from working out from the Romanian deadlifts with.
Lauren Schlossom
Okay.
James Harris
With reach and the calf raises, but we're getting there. So I think next week I might have. I might switch up the footwear. Although I gotta say, it is weirdly comforting to, like, already know what shoes I'm gonna be wearing. Yeah, it's ones that do, like, perform that are like. Except for the heat. Although I did wear these in June when we potted with mom Donnie Big Z with, like, big ass shorts.
Lauren Schlossom
I'm trying to remember if like what the weather was like that. Oh yeah, no, yeah, it was. Oh, you were, you were the hiking boot kind of with the shorts. That's a look.
James Harris
Yeah, on my timotation.
Lauren Schlossom
Which is weird when you see a dude like, because these are like, like a hiking boot sneaker. There's like, there was this, maybe we put on the 50s. There was this Tre dudes are wearing like Big Ass George but then hiking boots to like go shopping.
James Harris
Yeah, that's like, that's, yeah, that's. It's big boots, big shorts.
Lauren Schlossom
Like I like it in theory, but I'm like, I would never do this because you look like a bozo. Whatever.
James Harris
Well, you can't deal with your Timberlands because Timberlands, when they're laced up and choked at the ankles look like some real undercover cop, which. No, I meant like I can hide when you're wearing pants.
Lauren Schlossom
I have roas. I have some for. I have like normal hiking boots, not like Tim's. I just meant like, like an actual, like a hiking boot with like D ring loops and that kind of style.
James Harris
Yeah, I don't know, that looks fine.
Lauren Schlossom
Maybe a younger fella.
James Harris
It has been weirdly like, I'm not saying that I'm gonna be like Steve Jobs ever with the full head to toe uniform, but I kind of like, I get it. At least for one component of the fit. I'm like, oh yeah, just take those.
Lauren Schlossom
Pieces off the board. You don't need to worry about it.
James Harris
I guess so if it's the right. Because you know, we'll see what happens.
Lauren Schlossom
Next week when you're at whatever. I guess your. What percentage are you healed? 90 now I don't know, I'm not.
James Harris
Sure but I think I'll be able to Citi Bike here, podcast City Bike home.
Lauren Schlossom
We're waiting with bated breath to see if these make it make it out next week.
James Harris
Maybe it'll be a grand proclamation my own.
Lauren Schlossom
We can only hope.
James Harris
The socks are some Amazon brand, the jeans are orally. The belt is our legacy workshop. I need to wear a belt now because two weeks off the booze, fucking shedding lbs like I'm running a slant route, baby.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, also to your point because we never got around to when you were asking about the belt, like what is the actual thinking? The reason I I'm they're back out now is that I had on in.
James Harris
Terms of the dick dangle.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, on the opposite because I, I. Those are the majority of the belts I own, some with longer dangles than others. But I had, I was at a point where I had gained some weight, so I didn't need. I didn't need belts, so that's why they kind of like went away. And I'm not saying that like, oh, now I'm shedding weight, but I think it's just maybe these specific jeans are a little big. But yeah. So it was just like I did.
James Harris
No, but serious. Okay, Serious. I'm not gonna make fun of you. What is the point of the dick dangle? Like to like show the accessory?
Lauren Schlossom
Just like, it's. I think it's just like another. I guess if I was really to get into it, it's a. Because it's a decision. It's another layer technically, I guess maybe.
James Harris
What.
Lauren Schlossom
It's a light. Like you're now adding another, like a layer of like a leather.
James Harris
That's like a. Like a thin penis.
Lauren Schlossom
It's phallic in nature for sure.
James Harris
That Hitler is a micro dick.
Lauren Schlossom
Wait, based on who?
James Harris
Dude saw TikTok this morning.
Lauren Schlossom
Okay.
James Harris
Sent to the group chat. They're like, I'm not looking at Hitler's micropenis at 6 in the morning. Apparently.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
They sequenced Hitler's DNA.
Lauren Schlossom
Nice.
James Harris
And put 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 together and 8 and 8 together. There you go. And he had some rare genetic condition or something.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
That like most of the time results in a. Oh, you know what? He stopped. He didn't develop fully sexually post puberty.
Lauren Schlossom
Huh.
James Harris
So he has one or two testicles that are like still up in his hand.
Lauren Schlossom
Descended.
James Harris
Yeah, yeah. One undescended testicle and a micro penis.
Lauren Schlossom
I mean, that would explain why he was such an angry dude.
James Harris
Really? Why is that?
Lauren Schlossom
Well, I mean, I think that it used to be like, you're the failed art career. It's like, okay, like, that's why he popped off so psycho mode. But yo, if you also had on top of the failed art career, a tiny ass, micro dick and one undescended testicle, I could see that giving you a very rough outlook on life. And I'm not saying it's justified, but it explains a little bit of the motivations.
James Harris
You know, I'm just surprised that it's like, yo, if Hitler had a micro dick, he's not riding around like a vintage Ford Bronco or like fucking wearing like a big, like big ass jewels. Yeah, like just engaging in like maybe more like mundane micro dick behavior than killing 6 million people and trying to take over the world.
Lauren Schlossom
It's like people always say he was born in the wrong era, man. Hitler was just born. Born in the wrong era.
James Harris
Like what is like besides like the sick car? Like what is other micro dick behavior that. You know, maybe Hitler could have channeled.
Lauren Schlossom
His conspicuous consumption for sure.
James Harris
His. Maybe he would have gotten into crypto for sure. We got any crypto? What am I talking about? But I don't know, it's just he.
Lauren Schlossom
Would have been fleeced by some NFTs.
James Harris
It's a shame that like you said, born in the wrong era because if you, if you just had a micro dick now, it's like 6 million lives. Just get like a. A nice car.
Lauren Schlossom
Damn, dude, I can't believe that. Like, dude, imagine however many years after your death, like they. They sequence your fucking genome and be like, well, yeah, you had a tiny ass, dude.
James Harris
Yeah, that's.
Lauren Schlossom
That's some real hater shit even for Hitler.
James Harris
Yeah.
Lauren Schlossom
Thank you, science.
James Harris
Yeah, we needed that.
Lauren Schlossom
Yo, can you send me. I would like to see this TikTok. Send it through. Okay. But then that's the other thing too where it's like him.
James Harris
The best of that is it's by like the. It's by like some like reputable news source in the United Kingdom. So it's some like series journalist voices like SC have put together the genome sequence of Adolf Hitler because of. Somebody found a bloody cloth in the bunker and brought it over. And the medical term for what he has is micro penis.
Lauren Schlossom
It's. It's crazy to think that like, and people have made.
James Harris
My man had the shrimpy, the fur.
Lauren Schlossom
Had a shrimpy, according to BBC one. Because everyone is like, yeah, because he was like low key, like busted. And so it's like, why do you think it was the master race? And then you add on top of it that it's like, yo, how are you the master race if you're busted and you have a micropenis? So if anyone's listening with a micropenis, like, yo, shout out to you and like, you know, keep your head up, dude.
James Harris
It's kind of more.
Lauren Schlossom
Learn how to use your fingers and tongue.
James Harris
I think that there's multiple reasons why people have micropeni, but this specific like whatever genomic disorder or symptom or whatever the fuck that he had like, like results. I think people micro penis for different reasons.
Lauren Schlossom
We got to hear it. That's what we need. This is what we should be curing that we need to cure this.
James Harris
I think you could just hang like a, like a fishing weight to the end. Your.
Lauren Schlossom
What McGregor sent to Azalea Banks. Remember that?
James Harris
Oh, he's like, lifting a dumbbell.
Lauren Schlossom
It's like a. It's like a gravity thing. I read a whole article in GQ about this from a couple months ago. It's called.
James Harris
Oh, were you doing your own research?
Lauren Schlossom
Jelking. It's called Jelking. You. Yeah, it's a whole community, dude.
James Harris
Yeah, it's.
Lauren Schlossom
It's about you. Proud member. No, no, no. I just. I read. I read a fascinating article about Jelking where it's you. You, like, lengthen. It's ex. It's exercises. And obviously you could, like, I guess, you know, bring in gravity and waste suit, but. Yeah, you, like, work out your dick and you, like, break and rebuild the blood vessels and you can, like, add. I think you can add length and girth to your flaccid penis called. Joking. Joking.
James Harris
Yeah. Not looking it up.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, I thought you were. Yeah. Anyway, Hitler should have joked, bro.
James Harris
Yeah.
Lauren Schlossom
I mean, look, the only j. He was into real small dick behavior.
James Harris
You could buy a really expensive car and be an driver. You could kill six.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, that's tough. So tough scene, dude.
James Harris
Yeah, he's got a micro dick.
Lauren Schlossom
Hey, get the car.
James Harris
Go, go. Reach out. Reach out to Lawrence Research. Tell you how to. He'll tell you how to break and rebuild your car.
Lauren Schlossom
We can rebuild it stronger.
James Harris
Okay, so the penis dangle is. Is.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, I think it's. So if we really.
James Harris
It's for sure. A. I'm sorry, but it is such a, like, subconscious, like, little thing. Not little. Sorry.
Lauren Schlossom
No, no, no. I. No, no, I know what you meant in terms of, like, you know, importance. I.
James Harris
Look at my. Look at my. Look at my little.
Lauren Schlossom
I don't know. Yeah. I just think it's like. It's like a layer. Look at your little. Look at your little white dangle.
James Harris
Look at my little guy here. It's got a metal tip, so. Yo. Every. Yo, fellas. Stop doing that.
Lauren Schlossom
Great.
James Harris
You know what you do? You know what I think? Better. You know what I think is better is if you take the long. Like, I have long belts. If you.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
Tuck it in here and then you, like, do little one of these. Like. Yeah, like a sprezzaturo fucking. I have a little side tuck. That's so much better than doing the little.
Lauren Schlossom
I have another Mon Italy one that's even, like a longer belt that's. You do that with it. This one is kind of in betweener zone. Now, granted, if I lost a one more enough weight where I could do another belt loop if I'M on two. I went to three. Then I could just thread it through. Like I'm right on the cusp.
James Harris
See, there's so close. There's a belt for the belt. You saw that? No, it's like a little watch strap where it actually like holds your. If it's not gonna reach the loop, it hold. First of all, if it doesn't reach loop, it's cool because then it. It like pokes out here. Well, also down here.
Lauren Schlossom
What also depends on how many belt loops the pants have. This is just in a way where like there's the one here.
James Harris
You could also do the happy.
Lauren Schlossom
We could talk about this again.
James Harris
Maybe buckle the belt like over. Oh, I have over a loop.
Lauren Schlossom
No, I have. It depends on. Yeah, you pull it over like here. All right. If it's really going to bother you. Let me, let me, let me talk about you.
James Harris
It's. It's because I see guys doing this all the time.
Lauren Schlossom
Really?
James Harris
I feel like it fell off.
Lauren Schlossom
Which I'm. I'm. Because I'll be the only guy that does it. I feel like I'm seeing less.
James Harris
Good.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, yeah. Honestly, I. I truly agree with you. Like the less people copying me. I'm good with that. They're not copying.
James Harris
They're copying Jake Wolf. Okay, who's copying you? The shirt is.
Lauren Schlossom
Sorry.
James Harris
The shirt is our legacy. The sweater I Sorbara's. Barney's. Barney's in house brand. We're going to talk about it.
Lauren Schlossom
Black label.
James Harris
I don't know what.
Lauren Schlossom
Let me see the label.
James Harris
I was like, the label black. I don't think so.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh no, it's white label.
James Harris
No, no, that's like a. It's a cotton linen blend. Which Kathleen was like, yo, that's kind of a like a weird like rare thing, bro.
Lauren Schlossom
I don't know for a sweater. I don't know if you have a preference. I wish that all sweaters were a cotton had a cotton blend to it because too much like I can't really wear like these thick ass wool sweaters. They like look cool in pictures or whatever lookbook when it comes to in torso. So it's just like. I'm like it will. It is never cold enough. Where I'm like, yeah, let me throw on my 100% lambs wool. Like for me I just can't do it. So I love a blend.
James Harris
What's a wool? Linen I think is pretty.
Lauren Schlossom
That's a good one.
James Harris
Common. It's a good blood. But I don't know. Kathy was like, yeah, cotton Glenn is kind of like a weird. Like, you don't really see it that much. Maybe in like the beach sweater.
Lauren Schlossom
The like, you know, like. Oh, it's. It's. The sun has set at Montauk and I'm about to take my dame for a stroll in the sand. Let me throw my cotton.
James Harris
My dame.
Lauren Schlossom
I don't know. I'm just trying to, like, you know.
James Harris
I'm gonna have my dick. My belt dangling off my. My swim trunks.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
I'm not gonna lie. When I was trying this on, I did try this on without a shirt on underneath to see what it would look like in the summer where it's like, oh, yeah, I'm fucking.
Lauren Schlossom
What was the review?
James Harris
The salt's my hair. Don't have the body for it yet.
Lauren Schlossom
Do. Okay. Not. Not doable.
James Harris
It's not like. You know what it is is that.
Lauren Schlossom
That.
James Harris
We'Re talking about elastic bottoms.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
Elastic hems of tops.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah. I. With sweaters, then you can, like, you gotta.
James Harris
You gotta like, bring it up.
Lauren Schlossom
Yo. What about like a little cheeky tuck in the waistband to get some belt?
James Harris
Little belt loop, baby.
Lauren Schlossom
Something like that.
James Harris
Little belt thing.
Lauren Schlossom
Exactly. There you go.
James Harris
Now that's too intentional. And then the jacket is our legacy. Emporio Armando.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, I didn't say. My jacket is a studio Nicholson leather piston jacket, I believe is the term.
James Harris
I gotta say, I love this jacket. I think it gets me the most inquiries of what it is.
Lauren Schlossom
I was there with you yesterday when it happened.
James Harris
Yeah. And then I'm like, it's Legachi Armani. Like, oh. And I'm like, yeah. You didn't appreciate it. You didn't know what we had.
Lauren Schlossom
Is it like.
James Harris
It's.
Lauren Schlossom
They call like, what, like, the Astro or maybe. I figured that's Helmet Lang.
James Harris
It's called something like. It's something arrow. Like nautical.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Arrow. Yeah. Banger. I have the similar but different one that came out from the first drop, but it's. Yeah, I don't wear it enough, I guess. Maybe I should start assuming people are going to compliment me and ask me about it, which is obviously why you would ever wear anything, just so that people will tell you how cool you are for show. Yeah.
James Harris
The sunglasses are thistles. Okay. Sipping on top of chico and Hydroflux glory sides, finest. Let's get into the meat and potatoes. Lawrence, what'd we do last week?
Lauren Schlossom
Well, we ate at the A24 restaurant. I know we, like, teed it up, but we actually sat down, courtesy of our friends at Mr. Porter and got to sample the food at Wild Cherry before the majority of the populace.
James Harris
Yeah.
Lauren Schlossom
When did it open? Two weeks ago?
James Harris
No, no, like two months ago.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, okay. Either way.
James Harris
Even before that though, you were privileged a little. Yeah. Real quick though. Before that went to the MF Pen Ven. The MF event. DJ Mood board on the ones and twos. You weren't able to make it?
Lauren Schlossom
No, I wasn't. Wait, how was Jeff Rickley, the Thursday guy?
James Harris
I left before he.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, DJ Moodboard was opening up for Jeff Rickley. Yeah, gotcha.
James Harris
And I was like, yeah, yo. I was like. I was kind of working the floor, I'm not gonna lie. Like, they had Chris Green behind the bar just pouring orange wine and Orions. And then I was like, I was like helping people, like shop for the MF10. That's little capsule collection.
Lauren Schlossom
That must. I don't know. I kind of. So the idea of like working a party or an event. Retail is his own beast. But like, I think I've talked about this before, but I always enjoy that as a way to like help out and then also stay busy. It was like one of my favorite things, weirdly to do at a fraternity party is to like help out and kind of like host and be. And be occupied that way.
James Harris
You want to do a keg stand? You want to do a fucking.
Lauren Schlossom
What can I do?
James Harris
Buzzball?
Lauren Schlossom
What do you want? What can I do to put you piss on that.
James Harris
Piss on that passed out guy.
Lauren Schlossom
What was. What was the energy drink? Beer? A. Sparks. Sparks, can I get you what can do to put what you want? Sparks, you want a keg stand? What can I do to put you in a new keg stand today?
James Harris
What can I do to put you in a blackout today?
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, I like that. As a way to seem useful and then stay busy and. And not have to maybe deal with the dark side of mingling. Like get caught with a punisher or.
James Harris
It's a good way to. It's a good way to interact with. With strangers because then like I was shopping, like, I bought a shirt, like, it's seersucker chalk checkered shirt. And me and this guy were like kind of both trying the same time. And we were like swapping notes and like size and fit and everything. It's a good way to just like connect with people.
Lauren Schlossom
Especially at vent where everyone is exactly looking to cop a new shirt.
James Harris
It's just dudes, bro.
Lauren Schlossom
How was the. How's like the. The exclusive collection? I'm assuming it's still available.
James Harris
It's It's a few fabrics that are. It's like. Basically they take fabrics and they do different silhouettes than what they originally use the fabrics for and vice versa and some stuff that I guess was exclusive then. And yeah, you were missed, but I caught up with you at the Mr. Porter dinner. Wild Cherry. I missed seemingly a bunch of. I was only like an hour late, which I told them, by the way.
Lauren Schlossom
I know you were there for the sit down portion. You missed the. The.
James Harris
I was like. I was like, I'm gonna miss the cocktail hour from 7 to 8. I'll be there at 8.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
How. What did I miss?
Lauren Schlossom
Well, you missed the opportunity to create content with Mr. Porter's video team.
James Harris
Hell yeah.
Lauren Schlossom
I got it.
James Harris
It's kind of why I missed it. No kidding.
Lauren Schlossom
Okay. No, the. I guess everyone was doing their own kind of talking head stuff, just answering some interview questions. But for some reason, Pesco and I got the opportunity to do it as. Do they tell you, as a duet.
James Harris
Did they tell you to. To twin up or.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, they asked, which is hilarious because the videographer's name was Josh Lawrence. How funny is that? So it felt serendipitous and I was a little mad that I was having fun with it in terms of answering the questions. Unfortunately, none of my bits were used for the final product, which makes it seem like I was just like, playing the Flavor Flav to Pesco's Chuck D. None of my answers were used at all, though, in the moment.
James Harris
That's not true. On the. What are the most. What are the. Who are the goats of American men's style? What was hilarious was everyone's, like, gave the same three names.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
Ralph, Paul Newman.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah. Who?
James Harris
I don't know. Who else? JFK? I don't know.
Lauren Schlossom
No. Maybe Steve McQueen. Anyway, I had anticipated that when I figured out like. Or assumed that it was going to be stock questions, I was like, oh, for this answer, I think I. My first thing was Josh Peskowitz. You know, I gotta give flowers to the OG to unk. But then I was like, I already know what everyone's gonna say. So as a bit, I listed out every feasible option, the most predictable answers of all, just playing the hits. And I was like, oh, that would be if it was up to me in the. If I was in the editing bay, it's like, why don't we fucking either precede everyone's obvious answer with my laundry list or have me be the bookend and follow it up. And that was not used whatsoever either. So that Was. That was crazy.
James Harris
When you're not. Control the edit.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah. And because I. And you know, if I'm in the booth with Pesco and he's laughing and like, I'm almost getting encouraged by like, the video team, I'm like, really hamming it up. I thought I was crushing, like, most. Most iconic movie look. I was just Robocop. I'm like, oh, dude, awesome. Great. Damn.
James Harris
Damn.
Lauren Schlossom
And everyone's like, talented. Mr. Ripley. Ripley.
James Harris
Damn, bro. Those.
Lauren Schlossom
Release. Release. The Larry cut.
James Harris
The five I. The five IPAs you consumed before going on camera. Must have. You're like, yo, I'm killing it, bro.
Lauren Schlossom
Well, actually, it was. I was crushing it. I was bummed because I had just gotten my first drink and I was about to enjoy myself, then get pulled in to do the thing, and Gabby, the maitre d, who I know from Fred Chet, who's fantastic, she was like, oh, let me, like, hold your drinks. Because they didn't want us to have the drinks on camera. So I was like, completely sober. Cut, Cut. Yeah, I was completely sober. So it wasn't.
James Harris
I'm sorry.
Lauren Schlossom
It wasn't even that. Yeah, I just thought I was tough. I just thought I was cooking with gas, no pun intended, at Wild Cherry. And yeah, unfortunately, none of it was used. So now I just look like.
James Harris
I look like.
Lauren Schlossom
Like they called. They look like Steve McQueen. It looks like they called Pesquin. And I was like, yo, can I get in there and, like, hang out? I'm like, just like chilling there. Oh, yeah. What? Yeah. What he said versus, like, I had. Very funny.
James Harris
Yo, Mr. Porter, if you're listening, you should have really included the five minute exposition setup that Lawrence did.
Lauren Schlossom
Well. And also I had a real good hammer of Justice. What? What did they say? It was like, American Style is blank is the prompt. And you already know, I hit him with American style is the last good thing about this country.
James Harris
He's getting political.
Lauren Schlossom
The Brits didn't use that either.
James Harris
You're upset that we have a Muslim mayor?
Lauren Schlossom
No, I mean, are you kidding me? He got elected because of us.
James Harris
You see?
Lauren Schlossom
Did you see the New York Times? I did you read your own quote in the New York Times?
James Harris
I did. I did. No, I'm saying, like, oh, America's so bad, Lawrence, we just elected a Muslim man.
Lauren Schlossom
I mean, I'm talking about. Now talking about the federal government. Not the greatest city on earth, New York City, the Big Apple. Do you get any. That Zoron article, which was great shout, Nathan, and it was. I thought it was awesome. That you know what I told him. So I texted him and was like, this is really great. Thank you. I was like, to be real sincere, I was like, it's nice to be taken seriously. In terms of. No, like, in terms of the throng fits. I mean, obviously I was not quoted or. Which is fine, but I was like, yo, I think that. I mean.
James Harris
Yeah. How many years are you going to bring that up?
Lauren Schlossom
What?
James Harris
That you weren't quoted in this article.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, in this one, probably until the next time that thr. Fitz is mentioned. I'm also not quoted. Yeah.
James Harris
Either way, what's good for the Larry Erasure? The New York slimes are unnoticed reporter too.
Lauren Schlossom
No, what's good for the goose is good for.
James Harris
Oh, you're. You work. Okay, Yeah, I see what you're saying.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah. No, just making fun of myself for all of my bars. My bars that I really.
James Harris
Tell me some of the good bars that.
Lauren Schlossom
I was happy to relay that you.
James Harris
Only text John Taff for your bars. Need help, bro.
Lauren Schlossom
I thought the article talking about how Zoron could really hang with the Fells, it was nice to be a part of that narrative. Obviously, we would never take any credit whatsoever for the election of the savior of New York City, but.
James Harris
Wait, okay.
Lauren Schlossom
No, but I will say that what seemingly was missed on a lot of people because you and I have been talking about this, was that when we had him on at the most crucial juncture before the primary, when he slayed Cuomo the first time, I guess a lot of people that we know kind of missed that, because when we were promoing this kind of again, as, like, a call to action, as an endorsement for the actual general election, a lot of people were like. Like, either, oh, damn, is this out? Or I can't wait for this to drop. It's like, yeah, this was out back in June when it actually mattered. That was a bit strange to me.
James Harris
Oh, all right. I hope you're feeling better.
Lauren Schlossom
Anyway, was there anything to the original question, Was there anything in the article that you didn't get that didn't make it in?
James Harris
Yeah, we chatted for, like, 30 minutes. I mean, I. I talked about. I don't know, the article was kind of like how he can hang. I mean, how he can hang in the digital streaming podcast space just better than any Democrat can. And the way that, you know, Republicans, like, absolutely dominated in 2024. And I was just like, yo, he's just like a good. He's a chiller. Yeah, like, he's just a chiller. I Think you on the podcast, like, yo, I want to have a beer with this guy. Which is like the old litmus test. I don't think he drinks.
Lauren Schlossom
No, he definitely. He definitely doesn't drink. And I definitely made. I think I said that maybe as part of like, the afters, as it was called back.
James Harris
No, no, that was. That was in a clip.
Lauren Schlossom
Okay, never mind.
James Harris
We can review the tape, but go to the tape. Yeah, go, go listen to the episode. It's only 33 minutes if you missed it.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
I was just like, yeah, he wrote a city bike here. It was like his team was like, him, Zara, and I think Spencer, the kid with the backpack. His. His bag man.
Lauren Schlossom
The backpack kid.
James Harris
The bag man. Yeah. And then after the. After the call. Sorry, after our podcast, because, like, he was running late and had a crazy schedule. They were like, oh, if he can take his next call here, that will, like, give you guys an extra, like, five, ten minutes. Because then it won't, you know, you want it to, like, travel to the next thing. So I was like, yeah, go in the room next door. He's talking. He's like, like, a black church in Harlem, a bunch of like, old women about, like, NYCHA policy.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
And like, affordable housing. And I'm like, the fact that you can go from, like, talking Pierce nipples to affordable housing is just like, you know, it speaks to the breadth of want. A, like New York City.
Lauren Schlossom
Sure.
James Harris
And all like, the constituents and whatever. Whatever. And B, that he can, like, meet everyone on their level and kind of like, Fish with a fish are two major demos.
Lauren Schlossom
Podcast bros. And then church ladies in Harlem.
James Harris
Exactly. And yeah. So that was it. I don't know. It was the city bike.
Lauren Schlossom
Thing is. I must have missed that. That's sick. That huge city biked in a suit.
James Harris
Yeah. He's. He's a city biker.
Lauren Schlossom
Has he commented. Has he commented on the. So long ago. Did he comment on whether or not he's going to remove the governors on the. The. The speed limit on the. The max speed of the city bikes. The white ghosts.
James Harris
No, he hasn't. I think Carbon and I have been le. On his IG's. But one thing that we asked him, which I'm. I'm curious, we were like, yo, if you get the mayorship, are you going to move into Gracie Mansion? True. And I. He was kind of like, that's a great question. I don't know. Yeah, we'll see.
Lauren Schlossom
Now would you.
James Harris
I guess for like, security purposes, especially with him now he's getting. Now as A celebrity. Like, he. He can't walk on the street. He walks in graveyards.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
To, like, get his steps in and, like, clear his mind.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
It's his kind of spooky.
Lauren Schlossom
He's. He's a fucking superstar and with the fucking target on his back.
James Harris
Yeah. Okay. Going back to the Mr. Porter dinner. So what did I miss? Besides the video content? There was a speech. There's a bunch of mingling.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, yeah. I guess I forget the guy's name, but the CEO, he's like, Toby.
James Harris
Theo.
Lauren Schlossom
Toby.
James Harris
Toby or Theo.
Lauren Schlossom
I think it's Toby.
James Harris
Toby Porter.
Lauren Schlossom
He's Mr. Poor. He's back in the mix. It was like a. Kind of like a return. I think he used the term Mr. Porter 2.0. I. You didn't really do what the return. I think of him and like, some other key staffers that he's bringing with him. Speaking of, you know, getting the. The staff in order for not only the mayor of New York City, but the mayor of Mr. Porter. I don't know. I was. I really. I enjoyed the room. It was. It felt very generational. A lot of old guard, like our big bros. And then I think like people of. Of our ilk. So I don't know. It was. It felt. It definitely didn't feel like a dinner, which I think was the point. It kind of just felt like a. A hang, which is nice. And. And I will say, kind of stood in stock refrain from the normal. I mean, here's my question for you, and you might have a different answer than me, but when you go to a brand dinner, would you rather be seated with a. At a table of, like, people you know extremely well, or would you rather be making new friends? If you could choose? Either.
James Harris
I don't care. Oh, really?
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, I think I'm. I'm inclined to. What the. I think I would go for the. The known safe option of just with the homies, personally. So for me, they played.
James Harris
They put their expectations already set, you know. Okay. Yeah, let me get the earplugs.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, I see what you're saying. I don't know about that, but. No, it was. It was a great time. And then. Yeah, I think the. The big thing that I'm surprised about is that you were. When it comes to the food, which is what people want to hear here at Wild Cherry, at a table of, let's call it 12 people, you were the only defector for the. For the halibut versus.
James Harris
That's probably the only person in the. In the whole room that Was like, yeah, I'll have the. Instead of like, I want the burger. I was like, I'll have the fish. It was good.
Lauren Schlossom
The menu was limited.
James Harris
Yeah. Okay.
Lauren Schlossom
You.
James Harris
You posted oh, wild cherry goated a 24 restaurant instant classic smash success.
Lauren Schlossom
Okay. That was the food that was clearly a little bit. Even though it was good and I'll get into it. That was clearly ironic because I thought it was funny that the. The plate itself is a. Was a, you know, smaller burger and then just like a tiny. That, like, little gem salad. So that wasn't like me, actually. It was good, but, like, that was it. Did it come off as kind of tongue in cheek? No.
James Harris
I thought you were being serious.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh. A bunch of people in the comments, I think kind of got it, which is nice. Okay. And I would. I need to ask you a question, because I'm. I'm not. I don't cook, and I'm not a foodie. Is it normal for whether a home chef or chefs that, you know, if you perfect a recipe, is it, like, set and you're done iterating? Like, usually, like, it takes a while to get to that point, but when you kind of, like, nail it, you're, like, done. Right. Like, you're like, I did it.
James Harris
If you're cooking for yourself, I mean, I think you want to have like a. A steady rotation, like your go tos.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
And I think you can riff on them a little bit. But, like, I think for a restaurant, consistency is key. So it is like, this is the recipe. And also it's like, like, there's the chef that creates the recipes and does, like, recipe development, menu development. And then there's the actual, like. Like, the chef is not in the kitchen. Right. There's chef, cuisine, whatever, that are like, actually just like, like, processing and. Yo, chefs, line cooks, etc. Wayne, in the comments that are just like, okay, we're. This is. This is what it is. And it is like, for restaurant that has to deal with, like, we have this much of this sauce, we have this much of this produce, we have this much of this protein. Like, it is like, okay, five, you know, 50 grams of that two slice of this. Like, it is a science.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
I don't think they stray that often or riff on it that much.
Lauren Schlossom
The reason I.
James Harris
At home. Yeah, for sure. It's like, yeah, I'm gonna do a little. Oh, let me, let me. Yeah. Some paprika.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah. Right.
James Harris
I get crazy and go sweet potato instead of Yukon.
Lauren Schlossom
Right. I'm feeling a little extra spicy today. Whatever. And the reason I asked that is because. And I was talking to Gabby, who is very familiar with the chefs who like we said before, have opened French and Levo door. And then previously they were. They made their names working with Keith McNally. And I'm bringing this all up because it immediately struck me as. I don't know if you've ever had. We talked about Minetta last week, but they're famous for the Black Label burger. Have you had it before?
James Harris
Yeah, when I then had the massive dookie that gave Keith McNally his second stroke.
Lauren Schlossom
Right. So. So stroke inducing poopoos aside, the Black Label burger definitely like the signature dish at Minetta. A signature dish, I think for McNally's restaurants that mainly, like we've said before, are like selling vibes versus food. I think that everyone thinks that the Black Label is iconic, you know, classic new classic in New York. And those guys that created that burger have, in my opinion, done something which I think is interesting, which is they took a thing that everybody loves that is on all the lists and is a banger and like iterated it and made and what is kind of like a Black Label Burger 2.0 to the point where I understand that there's probably a lot of other stuff on the menu that we were not able to try, obviously. And those burgers were probably what, like, pre batched for the, you know, the. They knew exactly how many people are going to be there. They probably had an idea that the majority of people are going to order them. So I don't even know if that's the best version of that burger just based on like the format of the dinner itself. But I was blown away that they took a burger that is iconic and amazing and I think they made it even better.
James Harris
Simple.
Lauren Schlossom
It's delicious. I was really impressed to the point where, like, it probably was the best burger that I've had that I can even like, remember, to be totally frank. So that was kind of like. I don't. I guess it was. I was a bit shocked about how good it was. I knew it was going to be good, but. But I was like, God damn if I am lucky enough to be able to come back to this place. It's like whoever I'm with or whatever, we're getting one of these, at least for the table. Like, it was that good. I don't know if you were able to try, if anyone offered you a little bite or anything, but I was really impressed.
James Harris
I wasn't going to take another bite of a bite of another man's. Burger it was offered. I was like, no, I'm good. I knew I was going to just eat. I had the Luger burger for lunch next day. So I knew that that was probably. Or I knew I was like, you know what? I'm gonna make the healthy choice. That's. I didn't know that I was gonna go to Luger's next day. I was like, I'm gonna make the healthy choice. Okay. I can get a delic, like any day of the week.
Lauren Schlossom
I don't know about that. Delicious. It was good, bro.
James Harris
Well, again, I think like anything after I ate IPAs would taste pretty good.
Lauren Schlossom
First of all, I do not drink IPAs. Secondly, I don't think I was even drinking that much. To just be clear, I think that that burger in and of itself was sober, drunk, whatever. Very, very good. And I could not give it higher praises than I already have. Word. Yeah.
James Harris
I guess my thing is everyone's like, how was it? How was it? I was like, I. This isn't a cop up, but I'm like, yo, I was there for a brand dinner. It was like being there for a wedding. Like catering, right? Like again, everything. The menu is preset. Everything was just served, made and served at once. So I would like to go back and actually experience it, which I think is a fair thing to be like. I can't say that. I'm not gonna say if it's like good or bad or incredible or trash based on.
Lauren Schlossom
I was the halibut. Was it good?
James Harris
It was good.
Lauren Schlossom
Just hal. It's halibut. High, high end halibut.
James Harris
Well cooked, poached.
Lauren Schlossom
That's good. Okay. Like a sauce or anything special or.
James Harris
Nah.
Lauren Schlossom
Trying to think like, what else? The crudo was pretty good. What else did we get? Oh, that there was. What was that Beat the Beat dish. I'm not really a beats guy, so I'm probably not the wrong.
James Harris
Yeah, you don't have bars or beets. Yeah.
Lauren Schlossom
Not probably the guy to ask there.
James Harris
I mean, I was a little. Fries were a little stuffed for those little. I was at Alison Roman's. Like, she had a house party before and obviously there was crazy food. I was just like, damn, I kind of wish I had eaten a little more there.
Lauren Schlossom
Really?
James Harris
Yeah.
Lauren Schlossom
Who. When Allison Roman has a house party, I'm presumably. She's not cooking all that stuff. Right. She has catered her.
James Harris
My boy Danny joint venture on ig who does incredible like large format cooking mainly for like weddings and. But like, like anytime I've been to A wedding. That and he's dating a good friend of mine, knows upstate. But anytime I've been to a wedding or an event where he does the food, I'm just like, yo.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh yeah, lock in time.
James Harris
I mean, he was doing recipes from her new cookbook, but.
Lauren Schlossom
Ah, got it. But that makes sense. They.
James Harris
He and his team do like, it's like wedding food, but it's like, it's so good. And it's nowhere near your typical, like, wedding food experience. Like fish or beef. Like, oh, like bread, salad, protein. It is. It's crazy.
Lauren Schlossom
It's like more buffet style.
James Harris
Maybe it's more just like. Like they did like an Argentine style. I went to wedding last September. It was like Argentine. Like plancha.
Lauren Schlossom
Hell yeah.
James Harris
I can't explain it. It's incredible.
Lauren Schlossom
I think you're making it.
James Harris
I was like, damn. I wish I had brought a Tupperware for some of those Bocarones. Anyway, I don't know. It was. I. I can't. I don't want to review a restaurant without like actually having eaten there. Cause I feel like I just again, was just experienced, like the catering of it.
Lauren Schlossom
You know, I would just say if you're there, get a burger for the table. Like, I just think it.
James Harris
The.
Lauren Schlossom
The guy. The fact that these guys didn't just rest on their laurels and run back. Here's the thing too. It's like. I think we're probably going to talk about Lugers a bit. But the thick burger to me is suddenly so special again because of the sheer amount of smash burgers that at this point now is there. There's not many other options. I feel like we're at the. We've reached Peach. Excuse me. Peak Smashburger. I can't imagine, like, if you want.
James Harris
To fall into a food coma at 3pm, go to Luger's.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
With some Danes that. They're like, we want some class. Hugo, British and cigar.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
On Saturday or no, Friday. Friday, yeah, Friday. We're like, yo, we want somebody classic New York.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
You're under the weather.
Lauren Schlossom
I was sick. I'm back, baby. And I never get sick. Suck, dude. I never.
James Harris
Getting old, bro.
Lauren Schlossom
I know that's.
James Harris
You can't handle two nights out in a row. That's what it is.
Lauren Schlossom
No, it wasn't even.
James Harris
It's.
Lauren Schlossom
That's the thing. It's like, not even that because, like, I have survived, trust me, worse hangovers. I literally was like, I have a cold. I haven't had a cold in 10 years straight. Like, seriously. I never get sick anyway. But you. So you guys went to Luger's, which I was. I was sad to miss, but you went for lunch.
James Harris
Luger's Burger. Luger burger.
Lauren Schlossom
Only available at lunch.
James Harris
Only available at lunch. It is to your point. The. The. The puck patty is like a treat now.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
Because with Smashburgers, it's like, crispy, it's greasy, it's great. I'm never gonna malign a Smash burger I love with a. With a fat puck of, like, high quality meat. It's like, yo, I'm eating like, beef.
Lauren Schlossom
Let them.
James Harris
Let the.
Lauren Schlossom
Let the beef speak.
James Harris
Let the meat talk.
Lauren Schlossom
Let the meat yap. And that' like, for a simple burger. And I would imagine that Luger's burger also. It's like, you know, not a ton of ingredients, no bells and whistles. It's like we're talking about good quality, well cooked, simple things.
James Harris
Let the beef talk. And yeah, it's meaty as hell. I mean, we went to. We were like, all right, we got some time. We went to some bars after. And like, it was fun. Like, as soon as we o. As soon as we, like, open the door, we were all like, oh, beautiful day. Just had a great meal. As soon as we opened doors, just like, the itis just hit us and.
Lauren Schlossom
We'Re just like, powering down.
James Harris
Yeah. Y. I got to say, what kind.
Lauren Schlossom
Of cheese is on the Luger burger? Is it American or cheddar?
James Harris
I'm not sure. I didn't get cheese. Hugo got cheese.
Lauren Schlossom
Interesting. You went. You went for a non cheeseburger.
James Harris
Yeah, just onion and sauce.
Lauren Schlossom
Okay. All right. Interesting.
James Harris
Simple, easy, German. Let me just say this. We talk about sar so much.
Lauren Schlossom
Rightfully so. It is.
James Harris
Yeah. But like, when was the last time you were in there?
Lauren Schlossom
A month ago. Really? Yeah.
James Harris
It is excellent. And I forget about that. And like, we talk about it, I think we take it for granted. And then like, you go in there, you spend time in there. I went two times over the weekend, and yeah, it was great. That's where I picked up the sweater. I was talking to Kathleen because the piece that Gerd picked up was a pair of like, these like, ugly ass brown shoes from Barney's. Barney's in house brand, which is what this is from. I was like, yo, that's so funny. We're both buying, like, Barney. And I was like, what's up with this in house brand? Because I was reading. I tried reading the Barney's book.
Lauren Schlossom
Yikes.
James Harris
Absolute stinker.
Lauren Schlossom
Yep.
James Harris
I would like to apologize. I recommended it I was like, oh, there's all these. There's all these memoirs coming out. Keith McNally, Grady Carter. The Condon ass one is very good. The Barneys one, Jane Birkin. But a lot of them are like centering on New York. I was like, I heard through like legit fashion people that were posting like, oh, this is the best one of all the bunch.
Lauren Schlossom
Tasteful mutchies.
James Harris
I was like, oh, I heard that this is supposed to be like the best one where it's like the most salacious, the most like drug fueled, the most like, you know, sex, drugs and rock and roll of all them. I tried reading it. I hate giving up on books.
Lauren Schlossom
Oof.
James Harris
Bro. I put this one down after like 70 pages. It's just like shout out. It's not Matthew Schneider's fault.
Lauren Schlossom
No, not at all.
James Harris
The main guy, I'm Gene Pressman. This is just schlocky as hell. Like this is just self dick suckery to the maximum. This guy sounds like a contemporary newsletter writer or some. Or an Internet person that is just like getting higher than their own supply.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, Jenna said the same thing because she was like, let me read this. Let me crush this and then I'll flip it your way. And yeah, she probably got to around, yeah, 50, 70, 70, 100 pages, whatever. And was like, this sucks. She's like, do not read this like it is.
James Harris
And it doesn't.
Lauren Schlossom
Like I'm going into the donation.
James Harris
It'll get better. It'll get better. It doesn't get better.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
But I think one of the last portions or sections that I got to was when he launched like the in house brand of Barney's where basically was like, yo, why are we are importing all this? Me and my homie were traveling the world all over the. All across the globe, buying the best brands and bringing to America.
Lauren Schlossom
But like, thanks, Gene.
James Harris
Why don't we just like do it ourselves?
Lauren Schlossom
Right, right.
James Harris
And so I was talking to Kathleen and. And it was funny that I read about it and then immediately I'm like seeing the actual stuff. And this is from like the. I guess we're in the probably mid-80s is when this sofa was being made. And Kathleen was like, yeah, it's. And I know Chad Sinzel's pushing it or promoting as well or has a bunch. She's like, yeah, it's kind of an untapped resource. Like seemingly there's a lot of it out there.
Lauren Schlossom
Totally.
James Harris
People really like it and it's like easy to. Relatively easy. Like as you know, maybe the armani or like the, the vintage Ralph Wells dry up. There's a lot of it out there.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
So I don't know. It was interesting to see, like, both Sugar and I were drawn to old Barney stuff. And I've been wearing this a. I wore this yesterday. Yeah. A shitload. So. And I ran into Gallagher and he's like, yo, like, this is. If you weren't. If you hadn't bought this, I was like, yo, Gallagher, I bought such a Gallagher ass sweater. And then he's like, yo, if you hadn't bought this, I would have picked it up like, immediately.
Lauren Schlossom
I wonder at the time if what the value prop of like, whether it was the Barney's in house label or even Bergdorf Goodman, where it's like not a diffusion line, which implies, like, it's, you know, being diffused literally from like something more expensive and fancier. These, like, stood on their own. I wonder if they were kind of like these, you know, definitely like a cheaper, like, alternative to the Armanis or some of the other brands you're mentioning. But yeah, I wonder what the perception was at the time and then now how things are trending. It's interesting to see this, like, now, like we're saying, potentially become like, Like, I don't want to be the brand proclamation guy after, you know, everything that.
James Harris
Went off top Salem Salem merch and vintage Barneys.
Lauren Schlossom
But in all seriousness, like, this seems like. And the way that it's, you know, look at the tip of the spears, look at Chad, look at Kathleen, look at the people that are. That are. That are sourcing this stuff, that are putting it on their racks, like, that are buying it. Yeah. That are literally this, potentially. Is this gonna be like a wave? I mean, it's. It's tasteful, it's unbranded, it's drapey, it's well made. I mean, obviously well made. Made, I think, just for that era. Right. Like, it. When you compare close today versus close, then I think they were more well made than most.
James Harris
If I had read maybe 25 more pages, I could probably have an answer of, like, how it was received, but I'm not going to, so I can't. I have to imagine, though, I have to imagine that before the, the, in this current era, we are like champions of like the in house brands.
Lauren Schlossom
Yes.
James Harris
The in house lines from retailers.
Lauren Schlossom
Right.
James Harris
We're like, yo, these obviously this is going to be sick.
Lauren Schlossom
Yes.
James Harris
These guys are the experts and like, they just, just make it. I have to imagine that, like, the, the perception was that it was like, oh, this is like the cheap knockoff of like, you know, what's actually like the good stuff on the racks that.
Lauren Schlossom
The real VSCs want. Yeah.
James Harris
So it being so plentiful now has to be like I think a result of that.
Lauren Schlossom
A sign that it never made it into people's closets. For real.
James Harris
It never made into people's closets real. Or people like were happy to let go of it.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
And it's just like, you know, easy to pick up in like lots of or ebay markets. And maybe people that are like just getting rid of it don't necessarily know what they're sitting on. So I don't know.
Lauren Schlossom
I think it's worth investing. And I have a bunch of and from people like Kathleen or Chad. Like I have a lot of like the like even like Bloomingdale's. Like all these apartment stores like outside of like the. The phenomenon for a long time that was like the overcoat that's like made by the department store that was like in a lot of men's departments. Haberdasheries. Outside of that stuff. I have like a lot of of like fun promo merch from that era that I really like. But in terms of like well, there's.
James Harris
A lot of education in the book. There is a lot of like Armani for Barneys.
Lauren Schlossom
Yes.
James Harris
Which is just like it was exclusive to. It was Armani. It was exclusive to Barney.
Lauren Schlossom
I even. I'm even one step further where it's like it's the in house label like Bloomingdale's like made with some fancy fabric that like maybe was part of a made to measure program or, or whatever that so you could buy like a ready to wear thing instead of, you know, if you didn't have the money to get something, something completely bespoke or mtm. I. I just think that like when you even just think of like you know, guys always like where do I buy shirts and pants? It's like, you know, there's a. There's there vintage trends that ebb and flow. It feels like. And I'm not trying to be the proclamation guy. Is this like the next thing?
James Harris
I don't know what Barney's.
Lauren Schlossom
No. Or no. Just the these in house department store lines.
James Harris
In terms of how plentiful is the Bloomingdales and. And the Bergdorf and the Sax one.
Lauren Schlossom
I think more plentiful than Barney's. Really because they big. There was more of them. Barney's was this not Bergdorf. But like when you think of you know, store that have more, more locations that had more customers and were stocking more stuff. This was.
James Harris
Yeah, but that doesn't mean it's good. There might be more of it.
Lauren Schlossom
No, no, totally. And I, I can't say for sure. I'm just saying I think that the Gene original. Yeah. I think that they're the styling of these things. And okay. Quality is dubious and we don't want to necessarily comment on something that we're not hands on with or. No, but I think that styling wise, you know, know if they're providing an alternative to the popular brands of the era that have become the vintage trends currently, they kind of, I think will follow suit. And when I think of like a, you know, a good button up shirt, of course, where do our minds go? It's like a Ralph or Armani or whatever vintage stuff that everyone's familiar with. I think that this just aesthetically, again, quality aside, I think is like a nice alternative that I think we'll be seeing more for sure.
James Harris
And also, let me be clear there, you know, I did like just a vintage Barney shoes on ebay search just to like see what was out there because I. Because again, if cigarette hadn't scooped these, I would have picked them up myself. They're so ugly and delicious. There's a lot of dog out there. There's a lot of horrendous, horrendous stuff from this era of like the 80s 90s. That is atrocious. But hey, needle in a haystack, people.
Lauren Schlossom
Absolutely.
James Harris
And that's either why enjoy the hunt. That's why. Either why you enjoy the hunt yourself or you rely on absolutely the professionals.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
Kathleen, Chad, etc to do it for you.
Lauren Schlossom
No doubt.
James Harris
And pay the premium. Premium. Anyway, yeah. So that was a nice little. This little lunch and shopping with the boys while Larry was. Larry was hungover. Yeah. Larry had a cold.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah. I was able to watch. Wow.
James Harris
We had the sniffles.
Lauren Schlossom
Was able to watch all the TV that I normally wouldn't get to get into the Death by Lightning.
James Harris
Yeah.
Lauren Schlossom
Honestly, you finished it. It's. I was sick, bro. I didn't leave. Yo, bro. I was sick from Friday to.
James Harris
Monday.
Lauren Schlossom
I even stayed home. I feel. Dude, I felt like, bro, sorry to hear that. No, it's all good. Death by Lightning. It's. I liked it.
James Harris
It's a lot of intense white guys.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah. And, and an amazing cast. But it's literally like. And this. I know we talked about House of Guinness. We're fans of Peaky. They literally people just like, yo, what is if we like Peaky Blinders ified, like American history where it's like.
James Harris
I don't think that they. Peaky Blinders a fight it there.
Lauren Schlossom
You watched it.
James Harris
I put it on because I was like. I was like, oh, I like that era of history, Reconstruction era, New York, whatever. And I'm like, making lunch. Was like, Tom from Succession. What the.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, he's the. Yeah. No, I just mean, like, it's. There are elements that are. Are like a lot. I thought the comedy, some of the dialogue is like anachronistic in, like, a stylistic choice way.
James Harris
That's like how they talked back then that I didn't.
Lauren Schlossom
I enjoyed it because I felt like it wasn't a hundred percent, period. Correct. It's not Daniel Day Lewis and Lincoln or something like that. I thought it, like. I personally. The way that I perceived it was that they took the right liberties where it made it bingeable and enjoyable.
James Harris
Yeah. Liberty, Freedom and the.
Lauren Schlossom
You know, and honestly, guys, a very impression story that seems to apply to a lot of today's politics.
James Harris
Yeah. White people will be crazy. Okay.
Lauren Schlossom
But so I did that in the Vince Staple Show. Show.
James Harris
Okay, nice.
Lauren Schlossom
Which to me is like, it's good. I would love. I mean, that's someone I would love to get on the podcast, maybe look into that. But it's just like, I guess, like, if you liked Atlanta and Atlanta is off the air, like, you have this now. It's kind of a similar thing almost where I can't. I shouldn't compare it to something else, but I really. It's hard for me to separate in terms of, like, the fantastical elements and a lot of the humor. To me, it just. I don't know if I felt that way after season one as much as this season. I'm like, oh, we're just doing. We're running back the Atlanta Playbook.
James Harris
All black shows look the same to you?
Lauren Schlossom
No, that's not what I said, but pretty much. Nice try.
James Harris
The best show on TV right now besides Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, besides selling Sunset, the best show on TV right now. Scripted. All's fair.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, yeah.
James Harris
The Kim Kardashian Ryan Murphy show that got a zero percent on Rotten Tomatoes. People said Hulu's biggest scripted show of all time with like 3.2 million views of the pilot.
Lauren Schlossom
I wonder what the. Who else is like, what we're like, what's the competition? I'm trying to think of, like, other. Like.
James Harris
Midwife. Midwife's Tale.
Lauren Schlossom
No, Handmaid's Tale. I think it was. I mean, Alien Earth, which I talked about, which I loved, but which obviously seemed like a little bit more niche. Not a ton of people saw that. Yeah. I don't know what the competition is, but, I mean, listen, good for Kim Kardashian. Definitely needs a win.
James Harris
The bear.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, the bear.
James Harris
Normal people. American Horror Story. Fargo. There you go.
Lauren Schlossom
There's FX original. Yeah, okay. Sure.
James Harris
Yeah, same. Yeah. Dying for sex. Rami. Oh, shout out.
Lauren Schlossom
Rami.
James Harris
King of the Hill. This show is so bad. That is incredible. And I've. I've never watched a Ryan Murphy show. I've never watched Horror Story or love it. Okay. The premise is Kim Kardashian, Naomi Watts, and a third actress. His names, I'm forgetting, are High. Are. Oh, and Glenn Close are powerful.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, you don't remember the black actress's name?
James Harris
What's her name?
Lauren Schlossom
I don't watch the show. I don't even know.
James Harris
You do watch the show. I.
Lauren Schlossom
For five minutes.
James Harris
Okay. Are fabulous. LA Divorce Lawyers. Right? And, like, every episode is like, oh, we brought on this new case where we had to, like, save the. We had to save this woman from her terrible marriage.
Lauren Schlossom
Are there overarching and then there's like.
James Harris
An overarching, overarching storyline as well, where Kim K. Of the week. Kim K. Is dating a. Kim K. Is married to an NFL player who kind of looks like George Kittle.
Lauren Schlossom
Okay.
James Harris
He doesn't. Murder suicide, anyone? Oh, Teona Taylor's in this stack.
Lauren Schlossom
Is did not murder suicide, anyone, I'm.
James Harris
Saying, but, like, you know, Aaron Hernandez. Got it. Sarah Paulson, Glenn Close, Teyana Taylor, Naomi Watts. The black actress names. I'm forgetting who I don't think is Famous from Reno 911.
Lauren Schlossom
She's famous.
James Harris
Yes. Nice. Ed O', Neill, E. From Entourage. Jessica Simpson. It's stacked. And this is the show.
Lauren Schlossom
Niecy Nash.
James Harris
This is a show where you, like, watch it like your girlfriend or wife. He's like, yo, oh, I really want your show. And you're like, okay, I'll watch with you so I can go hang out.
Lauren Schlossom
And watch football with the boys, like.
James Harris
Get some relationship capital. And then you get sucked in.
Lauren Schlossom
Relationship capital.
James Harris
You love it, bro. Bro.
Lauren Schlossom
You come up with it.
James Harris
No, you love it, but you got to pretend you're like, oh, yeah, it's. This is gay.
Lauren Schlossom
It's funny you mentioned that, because when I saw you throw this down and we were going to talk about on the Run show and we're going to talk about tv, I'm like, ah, let Me fire it up. So I struggle the year. So I started it and I watched like, maybe like five minutes with Jenna by myself, and then she was like, wait, you watching that? Oh, she's like, watching All Fair. The Kim K. Show. I'm like, yeah. She's like, all right, shut that off. Because she was in the middle of something. She's like, shut this off. We're gonna revisit this together. So I got strong arm, so I can't comment the of the five minutes I saw. I. I see the potential. It's campy, right?
James Harris
Campy as the. So the whole thing is like, Kim Kardashian is, like, the worst actress of all time. Yes, yes. 100. She's kind of playing herself, except an actual lawyer. Eventually, though, it's one of those shows she did. She didn't pass the bar.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, that's right.
James Harris
She did fail because the psychics, instead of studying and. And. And going to law school, she just consulted psychics and asked Chachi and filmed.
Lauren Schlossom
The TV show and stuff.
James Harris
Yeah. But it's one of those shows where you can tell the cast had so much fun doing it, and, like, they all are just, like, having a blast. And that, like, comes through and it's just like girls taking on men. Yo.
Lauren Schlossom
E. From Female Law Firm. Yeah, right. That's the whole thing. Isn't there's a. Because they come from.
James Harris
I don't know how they identify, but yeah, I think so.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah. Yeah. Because they. Right. They left the. The law firm where, you know, none of them were taken seriously, Scott. That they. They established that the. The battle the sexes within, like, the first five minutes.
James Harris
That's kind of like, like, not relevant after those first five.
Lauren Schlossom
I, like Ryan Murphy, I think is hit or miss. I was always a big fan of American Horror Story.
James Harris
This is just going to be one of the shows where it's going to be like, yo. The meme fodder is, like, unparalleled. It's just going to be like. It's just going to be part of the thing. So, like, you might as well watch it. And it's, you know, mad entertaining.
Lauren Schlossom
Is it all out or they doing a weekly drive?
James Harris
I think it's weekly. I think they put out like, two or three, and then it's weekly.
Lauren Schlossom
The Pluribus Method, which is the other big show that's out right now. Yeah. Which is funny, too, because we talked a lot of TV on the. The heels, no pun intended, of Rachel's pot appearance and how much we enjoyed I love la and we didn't even talk about Fair. And then Pluribus, the two shows that. You know, it's funny how the marketing machine works where whether it was all fair, getting 0% on rotten tomatoes or people. And I literally mean, like, seeing, like. Well, then there's sponsored memes about the reviews of the show. And then on the flip side, with Pluribus, people being like, oh, the best pilot of all time. Like, just these huge grandiose. Speaking of, you know, grand claims being made. And I know they're paid for, but.
James Harris
Like, like, you're making my. You're making the point that I was making. Love it.
Lauren Schlossom
You love. It's great. You need. But you need to see for yourself. Right? And Pluribus.
James Harris
I mean, I was. I. I was seeing, like, let's go. I was seeing Pl. Okay. Yeah. This is all Pluris. Is the Geese of Lawrence's TV Diet Fluris. It's two episodes. Two out of nine have been released.
Lauren Schlossom
Yes.
James Harris
It's our boy Vince Gilly. We're both Better Call Saul guys.
Lauren Schlossom
And Breaking Bad.
James Harris
I put Breaking Bad my. So I did a break mad rewatch over Covet. I was like, damn, this is good. Like, I'm sorry. I know it's people for some reason. Like, the backlash on Breaking Bad has started. And I'm like, I'm sorry. It's entertaining as hell. Maybe, like, the ending is a little whatever.
Lauren Schlossom
No one wanted the movie, right?
James Harris
There's a movie.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, yeah. They did the movie about Jesse after the fact. Yeah, it was a bit. And then. We don't need that. That.
James Harris
Okay. They did with Entourage. Same there.
Lauren Schlossom
Are there two Entourage movies or just one?
James Harris
There's just one.
Lauren Schlossom
Okay.
James Harris
Either way, I think there should be two.
Lauren Schlossom
But yeah, we were a big fan of Vin Skill again.
James Harris
I remember seeing, like, I remember seeing. People were very confused about the, like, the poster and the art and even, like, the premise. People are like, oh, that sounds stupid. When it was J. Pre. Like, this is months ago.
Lauren Schlossom
Well, they were smart to not. They didn't. In the premise that. Or the log line that was out there. They withhold. Held a bunch of, like, what would be, like, spoiler stuff about the premise. Premise. So, like, that to me, I think I went into it and was really pleasantly surprised about the premise, which I think is very cool and interesting, personally.
James Harris
Yeah. So, okay, so it's great. We like it. We like it a lot. I guess my point is, like, yo, this is like, two episodes have been out. We got seven to go. It is, I think, too early for People to be like, yo, goaded, bro. I know that I'm doing it with all stare, like kind of ironically and facetiously.
Lauren Schlossom
Okay.
James Harris
That go and show the year. When we're talking real.
Lauren Schlossom
He's self aware, folks.
James Harris
Talking real tv. And it's just one of those things like the album comes out and four minutes later you're like, yo, greatest album of the year. This is ass, bro. It's like, all right, there's two episodes. The second episode is like mainly in like one scene or one setting.
Lauren Schlossom
A fishbowl episode as they say. But not completely.
James Harris
Yeah, you love it. It's your show of the year.
Lauren Schlossom
Better than Alien, I think it. It. I'm. I saw some backlash where people like, this is like a. A Reddit head, ass, neck, beard, like, premise. And I was like. I'm like, oh. And I don't want to let that affect me because, you know, and. Right. People are taught. Are seeing what you're talking about. The, the classic or trash mentality. Unfortunately, that's the era we live in.
James Harris
Can we just watch?
Lauren Schlossom
We're all right.
James Harris
Watch it first.
Lauren Schlossom
All nuance has. Has been removed. Removed. And then the interesting thing in terms of like isolating, like you said, just the two episodes route, there's a lot of talk about how this. And it's funny having just talked to Rachel about how don't judge a show by its pilot. People are. Are on the flip side, judging therapists by the pilot being like, this is one of the best pilots of all time. And I can't think of whether or not that's like, necessarily true because when I think about all the TV shows that I. That I love or that are beloved, like some we've talked about, I think about them in totality because, you know, I have the hindsight of seeing the full series. I personally think that it just for me personally, as a lover of sci fi and a guy who liked what Vince Gilligan did with a bunch of his, like, you know, monster of the week X Files episodes that he wrote and directed, which are like, really good. It's. It was cool to me to see him in that sci fi, you know, bag again. And I personally. And I might need to temper my expectations because I'm like crazy bullish where like, now I have the expectation, we're like, oh, this will be the show of the year. Like, that's how. And I know and I hope I'm not let down. But you're right. I think that with this show, I think people are just so excited for Vince to be back. Like, he's. He did two of the best shows of the past 10 years and is one of the guys that basically, like, ushered in the era of prestige tv. Right. He, like, basically helped mold what is now, like. Like, if anything, like a insufferable genre of television with, like, the studio or whatever other studios.
James Harris
Prestige tv.
Lauren Schlossom
I mean, I think the award. The awards and the way that the people talk about. And yes, Hollywood and, you know, tv, they love shows and movies about themselves, but, like, I think that that has become a genre in and of itself, and it's thanks to a guy like this who is like a. I don't know. He's a master of the craft, dude. I mean, like, the fact that he had one of the best shows of all time in Breaking Bad, and then I think. And maybe you agree, one upped it with Better Call Saul. It's even better. Like, that's crazy. And then now he's got a potential third one on his hands. I think it speaks for itself.
James Harris
We shall see.
Lauren Schlossom
I'm feeling very good. And I think. And I think the premise is. We were joking about how you named a bunch of other movies where there's a similar kind of. Or movies in TV where you're like, the premise is kind of similar. I don't know if I agree with you, but your laundry list was pretty funny if you want to recount for the people at home.
James Harris
Not necessarily there were, but I guess I have to, because you don't have to. You're doing that thing where you make my point for me. Okay. Liar, Liar. Right. The premise is, like, where only one person on earth has, like, the power or like a special power.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah.
James Harris
Liar, Liar. Yes, man.
Lauren Schlossom
Two Jim Carrey movies.
James Harris
Yeah. There's a Ricky Gervais one.
Lauren Schlossom
Right. Would I say click with Adam Sandler.
James Harris
Click with Adam Sandler. Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Lauren Schlossom
I mean, that's for sure. Reference point.
James Harris
That's a.
Lauren Schlossom
That's a.
James Harris
That's a film. Lord Burns.
Lauren Schlossom
These are all movies that were mentioned.
James Harris
These are all films. What else? Bruce Almighty one and two. Truman Show.
Lauren Schlossom
So. So four.
James Harris
Four.
Lauren Schlossom
No, I think. Yeah, I think the Grinch. There's only one Grinch. There's only. Famously, there's only one Grinch. No, I think the. Yeah, the. The idea, it's just.
James Harris
Okay, Right. Sorry. Opt for a second. What I'm just hopeful for, or what I'm a little distrustful of is when it's just. Again, it's a classic or trash thing where it's Just like the people that. And I got to tune this out myself, right? It's like the geese vacation of tv, where it's like, yo, this is the greatest show of all time. It's like we've watched two episodes. Like, let's watch. Let's watch it. Let's just watch it. Consume it. Maybe. Yeah, just maybe. Like in.
Lauren Schlossom
Well, it has to be recognized, right?
James Harris
Like, it. What.
Lauren Schlossom
It has to be recommended to, you know, that's the media. Like, review and recommend, you know. Okay. No, seriously, am I wrong?
James Harris
Like, the media's job.
Lauren Schlossom
Isn't. Isn't there an entire swath of. Of critics and people that cover television that need to, you know, disseminate an opinion on the show that. Yes, you're right. Only two episodes have been out. But don't they have to analyze and critique those two episodes?
James Harris
Yeah, that is the media's job.
Lauren Schlossom
What?
James Harris
I'm sorry, what's your point?
Lauren Schlossom
No, I'm saying there's an entire cottage industry about people that have to. To talk about this show.
James Harris
Yeah, I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about. I guess, just like, the general discourse of it just. Everything's just so extreme. So that's. We'll leave it at that. All right. We both like the show. That's it.
Lauren Schlossom
I think we're. And let's. Let's be clear. Both thumbs up. Yeah, give it a shot. You know, the one thing that I thought was strange, and maybe this is the bubble that I'm in. I was surprised how many people. I think people. And I was aware there was a new Vince Gilligan show coming. All the marketing with the color yellow and obviously seeing the return of same Ray Seahorn, Kim Wexler from Better Call Saul.
James Harris
Who.
Lauren Schlossom
An underrated weapon of. Of television. It was back in the mix, but I didn't see, like, I didn't even know it was out. I was just like, oh. I, like, remembered and, like, googled it. So, like, I. If anything, it's like, should people. Should more people be talking about it? I didn't even like it. Almost.
James Harris
It.
Lauren Schlossom
Almost. No, seriously, that it almost like, you know, it almost missed my radar. But anyway, I think it's fantastic. And I think the premise of. Of an optimistic.
James Harris
I don't think it's fantastic yet. I think it might apocalyp clips. I think it has a potential to be fantastic. I don't think it's been. From what. Of what we've seen. I don't think it's. It's fantastic.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, really? Are you bullish?
James Harris
Yes, that's what I just said, I think. But what we've been given so far.
Lauren Schlossom
Is like the best pilot of all time.
James Harris
Yo, it's the best second episode of all time, bro. It's the best plane episode of all time. Speaking of which, Epstein emails. Yeah, this was the best of the week.
Lauren Schlossom
You think so?
James Harris
100 already.
Lauren Schlossom
Come on, dude, you're ready to call it.
James Harris
The fact that the biggest.
Lauren Schlossom
Bro, we have thousands more emails to go.
James Harris
Can I please finish? The biggest sex monster pedophile of all fucking time is just like in all these emails, just like, ew, Trump. Gross.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah. Disgusting.
James Harris
He smells. Is incredible.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, but I mean, not to play devil's advocate. Here we go. All right. If the scene.
James Harris
Fairly. Fairly misaligned. If the very maligned. Unfairly maligned.
Lauren Schlossom
And obviously there was the. The. There was the. The dump from the Democrat. The dump. The three emails from the Democrats that obviously implicate Trump being a fucking gross weirdo, which I think a lot of people already feel that way. And then obviously the follow up from the Republicans where they just. How many did they dump? Tens of thousands.
James Harris
23,000 pages.
Lauren Schlossom
23,000 pages of files going back to the ones that implicate Trump from the Dems. All right, here's a. Here's a little prompt that I would give to you in the audience. Whether it's the three worst emails about you that have ever been sent or the three worst emails you have ever sent. What kind of picture would that paint of you?
James Harris
What's. I guess for you it's just the three emails you've ever sent.
Lauren Schlossom
Period.
James Harris
Okay. The three emails you've ever sent, which.
Lauren Schlossom
Are just size 10. Here's my address. Cheers, Lawrence.
James Harris
I could be found at. Is a weird way to be like, this is my address.
Lauren Schlossom
What do you do?
James Harris
Best address is.
Lauren Schlossom
I think they're. I think they're both not how normal people would talk in person, but it's email speak, fellas.
James Harris
Leave your. Leave your address in the comments.
Lauren Schlossom
Where can you be found at?
James Harris
I could be found at.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, I can be. Or yeah, like I could be reached if you were giving someone your phone number.
James Harris
Best number is.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, I think that it's just different.
James Harris
Strokes for different show different emails for different she mails. No.
Lauren Schlossom
Do you think like. Yeah. What are like. I'm trying to think like when I was the vice president, my fraternity and the listserv was really popular shopping. I've actually. What up F words someone. No, nothing that I remember as part of when I was Pledging. And I only know that I forgot about this, but a buddy of mine that I went to college with, one of my, my brothers, he sent me an email that I, I wrote. I don't know if it was like a task or like homework that was given when I was pledging, but I like read back this, this blog. I don't even want to say what the topic was that I was like told that I had to write about. But yeah, that would. Yeah, actually now I think about it, that's just. I only need one email, I guess that one, which is. But I sent that myself. It wasn't written about me.
James Harris
Slur in my emails.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, nice.
James Harris
Let's see which.
Lauren Schlossom
Can you say what's just.
James Harris
Just a f. Slur. It starts with an F. What email?
Lauren Schlossom
You're searching your personal.
James Harris
Yeah, yeah, not that many.
Lauren Schlossom
Wait, wait, wait, wait. But it has showed up.
James Harris
Well, one of them. I mean, it's like other people have said it in correspondence with me. Okay, it looks like two. The first two from 2006, 2010 are. Oh, my gay friend got called this word oh at a gym. And so he's telling me that story, then I'm telling that story to other people.
Lauren Schlossom
Did he get his consent to relay that story?
James Harris
No. Wow. Cancel me, brother. Got me.
Lauren Schlossom
Remember G Chat? Yeah. I feel like the G Chat logs are probably even more damning than email because G Chat felt so, you know, I don't know, it's just, it's just aim. It's just messaging. It was like a. Oh yeah, like. And I don't even know if they still have the G Chat logs, if that even exists, but that might be a real landmine for a certain generation for sure.
James Harris
Yeah. I don't know what my three worst emails would be. I mean, maybe like a real ass like complaint.
Lauren Schlossom
Oh, like a Karen ass email. Yeah. I'll paint you. But it wouldn't paint you as a gross sex pass. It would just paint you as.
James Harris
Oh no, no. None of my emails would pay me as a gross sex pest, I think.
Lauren Schlossom
Well, what about emails sent about you, like in this regard?
James Harris
Guard. Oh yeah, sure, man. What do they. What do people say about you?
Lauren Schlossom
Just that I'm a standup guy. You're awesome, the life of the party.
James Harris
And you're just so. You're. You don't spit on people's at all at dinners.
Lauren Schlossom
I'm so normal.
James Harris
You don't piss on people after you fight them.
Lauren Schlossom
Now again, that was not me. So. Yeah, I don't think that that could that could be.
James Harris
This guy's dinner etiquette was so incredible. I can't wait. I. I want to sit next to him at every event moving forward.
Lauren Schlossom
I'm not. I'm not saying that my dinner etiquette was above or below board. I'm just saying that it was weird that it was.
James Harris
They.
Lauren Schlossom
They le be like, it's just three. Like, you think there'd be more, right? It's almost like they name searched. And then those are the three we got. And I obviously know that the Republicans dropped those 23, 000 pages to cover, to distract and whatever. And I don't think anyone is denying that. Trump definitely was friends with Epstein for a lot longer than he said, and.
James Harris
He had Thanksgiving with him in 2017.
Lauren Schlossom
When he was president.
James Harris
And that's. I mean, we need. I just want. I just wish we had video. It's kind of of like, you know, I talk about how you're like, yo, and then I dropped this, like, sick joke and everyone's laughing, and then I, like, got all the hoes, and I'm like, I want the cc. I want the CC footage of like, it was actually where you're like, you vomited on yourself and people are just like, whoa. I want the CC footage of, like, Trump when he was ogling children in bikinis in a pool and just walked in the glass door and, like, left. Oh, yeah, that was his face on the glass.
Lauren Schlossom
I mean, that was a banger.
James Harris
Yeah. I mean, that's some three Louis Stooges ass pedophile. Come on.
Lauren Schlossom
Just a looney Tunes ass sex pest, bro. Come on, dude.
James Harris
A three. He literally went cartoon. We got Larry, Curly, Rapey, and Mo.
Lauren Schlossom
Yeah, he literally went cartoon wolf mode and walked into a glass door. Incredible.
James Harris
I mean, if only it had shattered.
Lauren Schlossom
Such a dude because he was so horned up. Like. Yeah, it is kind of incredible, dude. I mean, but yeah, isn't it? So it's not suspicious, too, that they. There's only three. I would think there would be more. More.
James Harris
I don't know. Maybe they're holding.
Lauren Schlossom
Maybe they're holding them.
James Harris
I mean, the Democrats are master strategists. Yeah.
Lauren Schlossom
They're gonna. They're gonna breadcrumb them out and drop them weekly, like all fair and pluribus, which obviously is a strategy these days.
James Harris
Well, they released three, then they. 23,000 things more released. And like, that's. There's some good stuff in there. And then maybe. Who knows what's funny is that, like, the. The way that this happened was they subpoenaed the Epine estate, which were just happy to comply and they're like, yeah, it. Take it all. We don't care. Like, yeah, sure, take it.
Lauren Schlossom
Go for it.
James Harris
Yeah, we're like, we're already paid.
Lauren Schlossom
Like, do you know who's, like, in. Who's running the estate?
James Harris
Oh, Mrs. Epene.
Lauren Schlossom
I don't know. Famous bachelor.
James Harris
No idea.
Lauren Schlossom
Iconic. An iconic bachelor if there ever was one.
James Harris
Jeffrey Epine. Yeah.
Lauren Schlossom
Be on the lookout.
James Harris
I don't know. Hopefully more emails. Hopefully more vintage Barneys. Hopefully more events and to correspond from hopefully more good TV in next week's episode.
Lauren Schlossom
Now positive email sent about the goddamn boys.
James Harris
Yeah, send us. Send if you ever sent an email about. Me and Lawrence are throwing fits. Copy and paste that in the comments.
Lauren Schlossom
I hope not. Unless maybe they're just recommending a great podcast to their friends.
James Harris
Exactly this. Speaking of which, there's been another episode of the only podcast matters. Chef, take us out.
Hosts: James Harris & Lauren Schlossman
Date: November 14, 2025
This episode is a laid-back, irreverent, and quintessentially “Throwing Fits” dive into the current menswear zeitgeist, viral trends, food culture, and media hype cycles. James and Lauren riff through personal style choices, recent events, New York City charitable efforts, memorable foodie nights, the strengths and weak points of TV discourse, and even the Epstein email dump. Their banter remains both self-deprecating and self-aware, poking fun at their own relevance, the cycles of hype, and the sometimes performative nature of trendsetting.
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This episode is a masterclass in zeitgeist-skewering, food, and menswear banter. Even if you missed it:
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