*PATREON PREVIEW* Loose Horse

Summary

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Throwing Fits – LOOSE HORSE (Patreon Preview) – February 6, 2026

Episode Overview

In this Patreon preview, hosts Lawrence Lawson and James Harris (a.k.a. the “veterinarian viking” and “zipper Zeppelin”) reunite for their weekly catch-up. True to Throwing Fits' irreverent spirit, the episode is packed with banter about winter footwear, caring (or not caring) for your shoes, Mad Men’s enduring influence on male behavior, tennis personalities, and dry-throated dog show drama. The main theme weaves together the boys’ fashion quirks, absurd personal stories, and a tongue-in-cheek analysis of the zeitgeist—for grown “dirtbags” and their fans.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fit Check & Winter Boot Habits (02:43–05:32)

• Fit Check Ritual: Lawrence and James dive into their usual breakdown of what they’re each wearing.
• Boot Neglect vs. Ritual Care:
  • James asks Lawrence if he maintains a winter boot care routine. Lawrence adamantly admits he doesn’t:

    “Yo, wear your kicks, bro. No, I don’t take care of them at all.”

  • James plays devil’s advocate, emphasizing how salt can destroy leather and suede.
  • Discussion of the cultural moment when brushing suede shoes (and owning a “shine box”) was an essential part of menswear etiquette.
  • Humorous Mad Men references abound, riffing on Don Draper and Roger Sterling as style and lifestyle influences for a generation of “bosses.”

2. Mad Men, Don Draper, and Masculinity (05:12–06:13)

• The hosts reflect on the cultural impact of Mad Men, arguing many men aspired to Draper-esque habits.
  • Notable quote (James):

    “During this Mad Men rewatch, I’m realizing how effective or influential [it] was on just a generation of dudes. Like, yeah man, drinking at work is sick.” (05:32)

  • Lawrence jokes about being “Don-pilled” vs. being a Roger Sterling fan.

3. Denim Cuffs, Cuff Gunk, and the Slowest Circumcision (08:03–09:09)

• Cuff Gunk: Lawrence jokes about the accumulation of “cuff gunk” (mostly lint) in raw, cuffed denim.
• James riffs on jeans becoming “self-hemmed” from being cuffed for years, leading to the “world’s record slowest circumcision” of the hem.
  • Notable quote (James):

    “A raw hem from, like, the slowest circumcision of all time.” (09:04)

4. Styling Moves & “Richmond Stroker” Lore (09:09–11:19)

• The “Richmond Stroker” nickname and its tongue-in-cheek debate about naming tennis tournaments.
• James explains:

  “The stroke is a beautiful form of human movement.” (10:03)

• The guys discuss “brand viability” when naming an event “strokers” vs. “Dr. Taco Invitational.”
• Lawrence admits to hardo style moves to cover up wrinkled puffer jacket sleeves.

5. Tennis Talk: Heroes, Villains, and Personalities (11:02–11:50)

• Brief chat about the Australian Open final and emerging tennis stars.
• James confesses he overslept the final but stands by his admiration for Carlos (“more than Sinner”).
• Lawrence and James weigh in on players they root for (“the people’s champ,” “Arthur Feast”), and those they avoid (notably “that German” who’s a “wife-beater”).
• Notable quote (James):

  “Everyone hates that German.” (11:02)

6. Westminster Dog Show Fails & Vet Visits (12:09–13:22)

• Lawrence reveals he was at the vet from 3–6am and describes the fatigue, tying it to his dog Georgie’s misadventures.
• James recounts a viral dog show fail, empathizing with the poor canine, but also making fun of the human error:

  “Now, his... I’m cut because my human just fucking bricked it.” (13:13)

• Dog show culture dissected: intensive training, funny failures, and what sets dogs up for disappointment.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On caring for your boots:
  Lawrence: “Wear your kicks, bro. No, I don’t take care of them at all.” (03:08)
• On Mad Men’s influence:
  James: “During this Mad Men rewatch, I’m realizing how effective or influential [it] was on just a generation of dudes. Like, yeah man, drinking at work is sick.” (05:32)
• On naming tennis tournaments:
  James: “The stroke is a beautiful form of human movement.” (10:03)
• On dog show mishaps:
  James: “Now... I’m cut because my intended, my human, the pupper performed, but my human just fucking bricked it.” (13:13)
• On cuffed jeans:
  James: “A raw hem from, like, the slowest circumcision of all time.” (09:04)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:43] Fit check and boot care advice (or lack thereof)
• [05:12] Mad Men’s effect on masculine style and behavior
• [08:03] Cuff gunk and denim self-hemming
• [09:09] “Richmond Stroker” branding debate and puffer jacket styling
• [11:02] Tennis talk: new champions and hated players
• [12:09] Vet stories, dog shows, and human error

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Final Thoughts

This episode is classic Throwing Fits: meandering, genuine, and loaded with style nerdery and left-field humor. Listeners get an honest, occasionally gross, always unfiltered glimpse at how two self-aware “dirtbags” interpret trends in menswear, sports, and internet virality—all while tossing in personal stories and lighthearted judgments.

For the full experience, check out their Patreon at www.throwingfits.com.

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Transcript

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[James Harris]

Are joined by the veterinarian viking, Lawrence Lawson and myself, the zipper Zeppelin, James Harris. Welcome to the weekly run of the boys with today's full episode only available on www.throwing fits.com.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Thank you for that ASMR. Bright and early in the I realized.

[James Harris]

I had walking on the street like I got three zippers.

[Lawrence Lawson]

You're zipped up, bro. He says he just needs a double cup, bro.

[James Harris]

Sip of that zippy like Timmy. Yeah, I mean that echo.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Sipping that zippy. Got the still sipping zippy.

[James Harris]

Got the echo on deco. Before we get into the vet scammers, super bowl feasting and the nightmare. Oh, the new nightmare. Yeah, maybe it's not new. I don't know.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Nightmare 3.0.

[James Harris]

I actually went viral on Twitter and it sucks. Let's get into a fit check. Lawrence, what are you wearing?

[Lawrence Lawson]

The boots are YMC Grenson. The socks are scenes.

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Do you.

[James Harris]

Real quick with winter boots, do you like, take care of or have like a. A boot routine?

[Lawrence Lawson]

No.

[James Harris]

You're not like brushing them off when you're like out in this? You're not scared of that? Like the salt eating into the leather, the suede?

[Lawrence Lawson]

No. I probably should be more cognizant, but I Yo, wear your kicks, bro. No, I don't take care of them at all. That's not a thing that. Now granted, these are the wrong boots to wear in this kind of weather with slush and. And salt and all that. But I just wanted to wear them, so I was like it. Okay. Yeah. Thank you for asking. What about you? Do you have any boots that would need to be taken care of or. They're all rubber sole kind of.

[James Harris]

That's why I kind of got stuck wearing the Salmon rears forever. Because I'm like, these can. These are just rubber.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Yeah.

[James Harris]

These don't. These aren't going to get eaten alive literally by. They're not gonna have the flesh eaten by salt. Yeah. With a moisture taken out of the skin by the salt. That's I guess how it actually. What actually happens.

[Lawrence Lawson]

I mean, I guess that's why I wear like Tim's and hiking boots. But it's nice to.

[James Harris]

Because you're what, a Timmy Timmy.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Tim's. But it's nice to switch it up. And again, like, maybe not the best call, but I don't know. I always prefer. Correct me if I'm wrong, outside of like maybe like a super high end loafer. I like my shoes, specifically boots to look worn in. Well worn. Yeah.

[James Harris]

But there's a difference between well worn and having the salt suck the moisture out of the leather suede.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Okay.

[James Harris]

Which you don't want because then they crack.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Absolutely.

[James Harris]

They crack. They get that like shitty like crinkling. Like you don't want that.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Yeah. I also wonder if that's like a quality thing where, like a higher quality boot like these would do better against those elements, presumably. I don't know. I don't know.

[James Harris]

I just remember like in the men's or days, it's like, yo, you got to keep a brush. Like brush your suede shoes when you come home.

[Lawrence Lawson]

It's like, I brought my fucking shine box in the office.

[James Harris]

I got a. An otter. Otter fur, horsehair brush, horse hair. Yeah. What Sally gives Don for his birthday. Oh, yeah, with the fucking ivory handle.

[Lawrence Lawson]

No. Yeah.

[James Harris]

Okay.

[Lawrence Lawson]

That's a. That's a bit much. Now. That's, like. There's definitely, like, thigh. Where Workwear head ass. Guys that, like. That's like, their. The ritual of shining the shoe, like, every day when you get home from the dick sucking factory. I'm good on that. Okay.

[James Harris]

What does Joe Pesci say?

[Lawrence Lawson]

Get your. Go get your. No, they say, the guy says to Pesci, get your shine box.

[James Harris]

Yeah. Oh, also, yep. There is a scene when Don comes home and, like, he's pissed at the maid. He's like, put things where they're supposed to go, where's my shine box? I think he sits down and, like, shines his shoes and watch tv. During this madman rewatch, I'm realizing how effective or influential was on just a generation of dudes. Like, yeah, man, like, drinking at work is sick.

[Lawrence Lawson]

So you're saying Don Draper is a bad guy?

[James Harris]

No, what I'm saying is that, like, there's so many guys I think a little older than us that are maybe more in their, like, middle management era. That's like, oh, that's how a boss moves.

[Lawrence Lawson]

They were radicalized by.

[James Harris]

They're Don Pilled.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Okay? Not Roger Sterling.

[James Harris]

Well, whatever, bad guy.

[Lawrence Lawson]

You know, that's my. Who's your favorite madman? I'm a Roger Sterling fanatic.

[James Harris]

I love Sterling. I mean, I. I've been loving Lane Price. He's just a weirdo dude. And again, he rip to Lane Price, please, no spoilers.

[Lawrence Lawson]

He.

[James Harris]

I don't know. Ginsburg just got introduced. He's a psycho, but, like, love Ginsburg. Again, just Lane Price doing the Bane voice.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Yeah.

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[Lawrence Lawson]

Shout out Lane Price. Dud. Okay. The socks are scenes. The jeans scenes. Scenes. The jeans are.

[James Harris]

Oh, sorry. I'm thinking of socks scenes.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Make socks.

[James Harris]

Scene socks.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Also make socks. These are scene socks. The jeans. If you remember, these were the Bugle Boy Bottegas. I uncuffed them to D. Bugle Boy them. If you remember that law.

[James Harris]

Remember that.

[Lawrence Lawson]

They were. They were cuffed. It was like, a bit. Well, you can kind of.

[James Harris]

You still see the fucking.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Well, they've been cuffed for years, dude. I've had these. How gross.

[James Harris]

Was pretty bad shit in there.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Pretty bad.

[James Harris]

But as bad as the ass crack of the jeans.

[Lawrence Lawson]

But they were as good of the jeans. The it.

[James Harris]

Wash your jeans, watch your. Wash your jeans crack.

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[Lawrence Lawson]

It's I think that you know enough people that wear cell like if you wear selvage that's like you get the gunk in a cuff. Cuff gunk. So it wasn't. It was more lint. It was more lint than anything. So just a quick little lint roll. But I tried to debugle. Boy, these, they're a little. It's like they're. I guess jeans are so wide now that like these to me feel like skinny. But they're just a straight cut. I don't know. Well, yeah dude, that's what. Well, have you ever had raw denim or any denim that you never.

[James Harris]

That I cuffed?

[Lawrence Lawson]

Have you never.

[James Harris]

I cuffed my APCs.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Did they not. Did they not get that like they wear it in that area?

[James Harris]

Well, they, they actually started tearing.

[Lawrence Lawson]

That's literally what is happening.

[James Harris]

I know. But it is very. I never uncuffed them because I was like you know, unc in my UTK cuffing era when I had them. And then it's just funny that the, the line is there. That's all.

[Lawrence Lawson]

It's by cuffing them they almost like self hem themselves over time because I had a pair of jeans like from supreme where eventually I wore them cuffed so much that they just like fell off and they had a, a raw.

[James Harris]

Hem from like the slowest circumcision of all time.

[Lawrence Lawson]

The world's record slowest circumcision. Yes. That's pretty funny. The, the thermal is bare knuckles. The shirt is Vintage Armani jeans.

[James Harris]

Oh, and this guy is styling.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Well, here's.

[James Harris]

Well, this guy's styling his tops.

[Lawrence Lawson]

My. Yeah, the. It's. I'm Ralph talked right now. But the sleeves.

[James Harris]

Oh, no, I'm talking about the. The sleeve.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Also your. Yeah, my. Vintage leather Western RLX puffer.

[James Harris]

Via Giovos.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Via Giovs.

[James Harris]

The Richmond Stroker.

[Lawrence Lawson]

It. Oh, yeah. Is he gonna. Is he getting an invite?

[James Harris]

You think everyone's invited?

[Lawrence Lawson]

Oh, well, there's only so many slots.

[James Harris]

No, everyone strokes.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Can I ask you a question?

[James Harris]

Yeah.

[Lawrence Lawson]

When you named it. Yeah. Were you like, this could hurt brand viability.

[James Harris]

Better than the Dr. Taco tournament.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Well, the Dr. Taco invitate. The Taco Invitational, bro.

[James Harris]

The stroke is a beautiful form of human movement.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Yeah, I understand. I'm just saying. It's called strokers.

[James Harris]

Yeah. We play with power. We play with touch.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Wait, is that the log line or the.

[James Harris]

It's going to be.

[Lawrence Lawson]

That's pretty good. I mean, you're doubling down.

[James Harris]

We got touch.

[Lawrence Lawson]

I mean, listen. It's better than Vette, which we'll get into. The reason.

[James Harris]

If you ever see a guy who's going like this. That is a. That's a. He's working on a stroke.

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[Lawrence Lawson]

Bro. I was. I also set an alarm for the Australian Open final, which I think ended up being disappointing as I overslept by.

[James Harris]

Three and a half hours. I woke up and Carlos was lifting the trophy. And I was like, you didn't even.

[Lawrence Lawson]

See the fifth set. Nah, dude. Fucking career grand salami. Youngest ever to do it.

[James Harris]

Yeah.

[Lawrence Lawson]

You love him, right? Is he your guy?

[James Harris]

Carlos? More than sinner.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Yeah. Who. Who's like the. The. The kind of if, you know. You know, people's champ. Cool guy to root for the Italian guy, right?

[James Harris]

We said he's fire. I mean, he's kind of. We said he's good, but he's like, ranked fifth. Yeah. Arthur Feast.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Everyone hates that German.

[James Harris]

He's a wife beater.

[Lawrence Lawson]

There it is. Yeah.

[James Harris]

And he's like, too handsome and a ass complainer. I like Medvedev just because he's a psycho. I like gamer.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Real gamer.

[James Harris]

Rublev, because he's a psycho. I like Buble because he's a psycho. He's Kazakhstani. He's a. The rare white Kazakhstani.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Okay, good for him.

[James Harris]

He might have been Russian and then like, claims Kazakhstani just so he can like, not be banned from tournaments.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Right. Or you be. You become a player with no nation.

[James Harris]

Exactly.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Which is rough. Anyway, the reason the sleeves are styled as such Is because the beautiful leather western RX puffer wrinkled via the Richmond Stroker. Right? Via the Richmond stroker. Wrinkled the sleeve so poorly that, like, I'd rather do this hardo styling move than have, like, the most wrinkled sleeve, not the.

[James Harris]

Man, you look like a Tik Tok guy. Thanks, bro. The Tick Tock mechanic.

[Lawrence Lawson]

The. That's me. Yeah. The hat is Small talk Studio. The Gl. The signings today are Gucci and the. What?

[James Harris]

They're Gucci Gucci. Are they new?

[Lawrence Lawson]

No, these are old. I bought these on vacation with.

[James Harris]

Oh, nice.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Yeah. Women's cat eye, women's sunglasses. Yeah, this is like a. It's like a Jimmy shape, but, yeah, I got them on vacation as a souvenir many moons ago. And the underwear are skims. I don't know if we're gonna get into it. Sorry, guys. If I'm like, a little in and out, but. Yeah, I was at the. At the vet from 3 to 6am Damn. Yeah.

[James Harris]

Prayers up. She's forever.

[Lawrence Lawson]

We'll get into it, I guess.

[James Harris]

Georgie, did she injure herself at the Westminster Dog Show?

[Lawrence Lawson]

No, she. Nah, she missed the cut. Sadly, she's not even remotely trained, bro. Don't you have to be a trained dog?

[James Harris]

I think so, yeah.

[Lawrence Lawson]

She would just be out there fucking running labs.

[James Harris]

There's a guy. Ally Royals was there, and she was, like, posting it, and there's a guy that, like, walked out or ran out with his dog, and this just fell over the. The man.

[Lawrence Lawson]

You hate to see it.

[James Harris]

And I'm like, yo, imagine how disappointed the dog must be. It's like, I trained all year for this. I dieted. I went through, you know, my speed regimen. Like, I. My cardio's up, my. I slim down, and this fat just falls over because he trips over. He's like, untied Brown Kenneth Coal loafers.

[Lawrence Lawson]

Yeah.

[James Harris]

And now, like his, I'm cut because my intended. My human, the pupper. The pupper performed, but my human just fucking bricked it.

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