*PATREON PREVIEW* Lurker Denim

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Throwing Fits — “PATREON PREVIEW Lurker Denim”

Episode Date: October 8, 2025
Hosts: Jimmy & Larry (Throwing Fits)
Theme: Candid post-pod banter about movies (specifically Alex Russell’s Lurker), their standing in the zeitgeist, and the underrated versatility of gray denim.

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Episode Overview

This bonus Patreon episode finds Jimmy and Larry decompressing after a hefty two-hour recording session with Alex Russell, director of the upcoming film Lurker. The boys banter about movie-watching habits, Russell’s creative output, the ambiguous art of endings, TV vs. film snobbery, and launch into a spirited defense of gray denim. With tongue-in-cheek jabs at each other’s tastes, references to past creative work, and a signature fit check, the duo keeps things loose and engaging for loyal fans.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Podcast Afterglow: Impressions on Alex Russell and Lurker

• [00:58]–[02:17]
  • The hosts rave about Russell’s credentials (“award winning… writers rooms for The Bear, Beef, Dave”), but rib each other over their approaches to TV and movies.
  • Larry defends his cinephile status but confesses rare binge-watching (“I don’t really watch a ton of TV, but Beef… I could not stop watching”).
  • Jimmy jokes about his positive outlook:

    “You’re a terrible critic because you love everything. I hate everything.” — Jimmy [01:41]

  • Larry admits Lurker was good enough he watched it almost straight through (“Normally takes me six sittings… watched it in two. Even turned off the US Open to finish it” [01:55]).
  • Both agree Lurker has a purposely ambiguous ending:

    “Sometimes the ending, especially one like Lurker, I think we can both agree is a bit ambiguous. And I think it’s an interesting ending. It doesn’t tie things up, I don’t think.” — Larry [08:38]

2. Fit Check: Denim, Socks, and Philosophy

• [03:22]–[07:23]
  • Larry delivers a detailed outfit rundown:
    • OL Boots by Our Legacy, Scenes soccer brand socks, Eckhaus Latta double knee jeans, Cortez beater, Colbo shirt, Options hat, Supreme Hanes underwear, jewelry, and “hydro flask – normal milligrams in.”

    “The socks are by Scenes—shout Scenes, New York soccer brand. The jeans… double knee jeans are Eckhaus Latta. The beater is Cortez. The shirt is Colbo…” — Larry [03:23]

  • Jimmy follows up with Martin Rose loafer mules (“tried to make these my beach and pool shoes… failed miserably,” [04:44]), Bomba socks, MF Pen jeans (“great gray jeans”), Factors Collection shirt, Hanes boxers, Josandra/Bottega jewelry, and Bottega shades.
  • Brief meta-discussion about whether it’s played out to always ask about guests’ underwear:

    “I wonder if we take that out of the fit check and… save it just for—” — Larry [03:37]
    “I think we ask about underwear…” — Jimmy [04:01]

  • A subtle but recurring motif: “gray jeans” talk leads to a discussion about their underratedness (“Everyone is familiar with blue jeans… black jeans… but gray jeans, I feel like, get no love. That’s where I’m going with this.” — Larry [05:42])

3. Gray Jeans: The Underrated Denim Choice

• [05:25]–[07:23]
  • The hosts note the rarity of gray denim in men’s wardrobes, compared to ubiquitous blue and even black jeans:

    “And that’s the thing…maybe one of the more common colors of trousers that people have, but yet you never see gray jeans… I think they’re underrated, dude.” — Larry [06:52]

  • They muse about their own gray denim purchases and advocate for listeners to consider them:

    “Get your hands on some gray jeans.” — Jimmy [07:20]

4. The Moviesman’s Questions: How to Interview a Director

• [07:39]–[08:43]
  • Larry reflects on how, when meeting directors he knows personally (like Russell), he’s less inclined to fanboy out and more to “talk about my interpretation of the themes and what I saw—especially the ending.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Normally takes me like six sittings to watch a movie. I watched it in two. It is good. I even watched it, I think I even turned off the US Open and watched to finish it.” — Jimmy [01:55]
• “Our gray jeans are…everyone is familiar with blue jeans… but gray jeans, I feel like, get no love. That’s where I’m going with this. Are gray jeans underrated? 100% agree. 100% disagree.” — Larry [05:42]
• “The socks are by Scenes. New York soccer brand. The jeans… double knee jeans are Eckhaus Latta.” — Larry [03:23]
• “I wonder if we take that out of the fit check and we stop talking to people about underwear. We save it just for—” — Larry [03:37]
• “Gray trousers are fire… yet you never see gray jeans… I think they’re underrated, dude.” — Larry [06:52]
• “Sometimes the ending, especially one like Lurker, I think we can both agree is a bit ambiguous. And I think it’s an interesting ending. It doesn’t tie things up, I don’t think.” — Larry [08:38]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:58] – Start of Patreon-exclusive content, recapping the Russell episode and segueing to movies
• [01:41] – Jimmy on being a “terrible critic,” Larry on TV and Beef
• [03:22] – Fit check begins
• [04:44] – Martin Rose loafer mules story (“failed miserably… now house shoe”)
• [05:25] – “Great gray jeans” talk and why they’re undervalued
• [07:39] – Larry on how to ask good questions to directors/friends (“my interpretation of the themes…”)
• [08:43] – Reflections on Lurker’s ambiguous ending

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Takeaways

• The Throwing Fits hosts blend movie nerdery with irreverent fashion commentary, keeping things relaxed and highly referential.
• Gray denim is the unsung hero of the contemporary man’s wardrobe—according to Jimmy and Larry.
• The best way to engage with creatives is less fanboying, more thoughtful interpretation and dialogue about their art’s ambiguity and themes.

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(Ads, intros, and outros have been omitted.)

Transcript

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[Dana]

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[Cinema Men]

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[Podcast Host]

Data 182025 Visit T mobile.com welcome to the midweek boys. Only uncut bonus content for our best friends behind the Patreon paywall. This week we're getting silly with Jimmy and Larry after podcasting for two damn hours feature length feature length zoo with our old friend and honestly. So he was like, yo, I'm your son. The two of us off off Mike. Unfortunately, yeah. Alex Russell, the director of new flick which by the time you're listening to this, don't know if he'll be in theaters in theaters right now. But we're recording about a month before this goes live. Stream that yo, find lurker. See it Larry. I know you loved it, but you love everything movies.

[Cinema Men]

That's not.

[Podcast Host]

You're a terrible critic because you love everything. I hate everything.

[Cinema Men]

Okay.

[Podcast Host]

And I.

[Cinema Men]

That's very cool.

[Podcast Host]

I told Alex. No, it's. It's not about being cool. It's now my. My opinion kind of like has this going for it where I told Alex I was like, yo, I watch this in two sittings.

[Cinema Men]

Wow.

[Podcast Host]

Normally takes me like six sittings to watch a movie. I watched it in two. It is good. I even watched it. I think I even like turned off the US Open and watched to finish it.

[Cinema Men]

Zero snoozes too on the snooze meter.

[Podcast Host]

Zero. Maybe, maybe one snooze because I like closed it to go to bed. You know what I mean.

[Cinema Men]

Gotcha, gotcha. So the, the, the Big snooze, the big.

[Podcast Host]

The Big Sleeve. That's a, that's a movie.

[Cinema Men]

Yeah. I think most people are familiar with Alex's award winning, multiple award winning, you know, you know, stints in writers rooms for shows like the Bear. Ever heard of it, Beef? Probably less people heard of it, but honestly, I think I might like it better.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, it's so good.

[Cinema Men]

It's incredible. That's a show that I as the moviesman, as a cinephile, a film, bro. I don't really watch a ton of tv, but Beef is a limited series. That was something that I crushed it right through. Like I think I put it. I could not stop watching.

[Podcast Host]

If it was an off industry year, I think I had it as my best show of the year.

[Cinema Men]

I watched it a little late and I feel like I. Because I think a lot of people.

[Podcast Host]

What happened? What happened? Jimmy loved it. Larry watched it.

[Cinema Men]

Did you influence me? No, I think just the general critical acclaim.

[Dana]

Yeah.

[Cinema Men]

Amongst everybody else, including you, definitely influenced me. So yeah, you're probably familiar with his work. And also Dave, multiple seasons of Dave, I believe. Right.

[Podcast Host]

Great, great. Meat reveal late in the pod. Before we get into that though.

[Cinema Men]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Let's get to a fit check.

[Cinema Men]

Okay, sorry, yeah, I was just sorry for listing off Alex's bona fides. But let's list off my Fitz bona fides cameo on boots by our legacy little brand you might have heard of. The socks are by scenes Shout scenes. New York soccer brand.

[Podcast Host]

Oh yeah, of course.

[Cinema Men]

Yeah. The jeans, the double knee jeans are echoes. Lotta. The beater is Cortez. The shirt is Colbo. The hat is options. The underwear are supreme. Hanes. We talked to Alex a bunch about underwear. I wonder if, I wonder if we take that out of the fit check and we stop talking to people about underwear. We save it just for.

[Podcast Host]

No, I think, I think we ask about underwear, but I think you always.

[Cinema Men]

Bring up the boxers.

[Podcast Host]

Listen like bro, now I have to go and find it and read it because they're always like, oh, who's. They're always interested, like who wears boxes. I'm like, I. This is gonna like take up a lot of dead air now.

[Cinema Men]

The call is coming from inside the house. Yeah, okay, understood. Roll on the wrist. Wedding ring on the fingy wifey on the pinky chrome. On the other hand wed Lower east sides finest in the hydro flask. Normal milligrams in and I believe what's normal. Three, six and a Half.

[Podcast Host]

Three.

[Cinema Men]

It would be six and a half.

[Podcast Host]

I thought it was six. Where's the half come from?

[Cinema Men]

Because I have the euro specials with a. Anyway, what would you wear today?

[Podcast Host]

Pouch.

[Cinema Men]

The pussy pack.

[Podcast Host]

I wear. I'm wearing Martin Rose loafer mules. Long time listeners of the show will know that I tried to make these my beach and pool shoes. Sorry, am I boring you? What are you.

[Cinema Men]

No, no.

[Podcast Host]

Writing an email?

[Cinema Men]

No, I'm doing. I'm dealing with the spawn con.

[Podcast Host]

Oh that. Maybe you should do that after off. Off mic after pot hours.

[Cinema Men]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Long time listeners will know that I tried to make these my beach and pool shoes and failed miserably and cut the up out of my feet. So now her false shoe. The socks are bumba socks. The jeans are MF pen. The shirt is factors collection.

[Cinema Men]

I'm thinking about great gray jeans. We're both in gray jeans. Unplanned.

[Podcast Host]

Oh yeah.

[Dana]

Wow.

[Podcast Host]

And kind of like a brownish reddish. I guess yours like a. Like a matte olive green. I mean more like an ox blood but I don't know. Same family. Shiny footwear are great.

[Cinema Men]

Our gray jeans are. Everyone is familiar with blue jeans. Light wash had their moment. People like Alex Russell, dark lords of. Of the other side. They wear black jeans. But gray jeans, I feel like get no love. That's where I'm going with this. Are gray jeans underrated? 100% agree. 100% disagree.

[Podcast Host]

Stop it. I don't know. I do like these jeans a lot. Even though I only picked them up a few weeks ago. I've been wearing them a shitload when the weather allows. And then like my only other. I've had some great jeans from.

[Cinema Men]

Oh well.

[Podcast Host]

And then I had some. Some more like acid wash gray.

[Cinema Men]

What does that mean?

[Podcast Host]

Like from MF pen. So like they're black but they get like bleached down and acid washed down where they become like gray technically. Well, they were black and then they kind of. It's kind of like a black and white speckle. So like the effect gives off a very light gray.

[Cinema Men]

I guess I have a pair of the digi print third cuts from ol that because of that in this case, you know, printed fade. They are. Yeah, it's kind of gray. Maybe that's the starting point versus solid gray. Maybe that's what is hard for people.

[Podcast Host]

No go solid gray. I mean to latch onto.

[Cinema Men]

I don't know.

[Podcast Host]

Gray trousers are fire and.

[Cinema Men]

Right. And that's the thing. It's like that's. I feel like maybe one of the more Common colors of trout that people have, but yet you never see gray jeans. That's my really. I really feel like.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Cinema Men]

And if anything, the reason I. When I got these egg house jeans, I went gray. They had other colors because I'm like, I don't own gray jeans. And it's a thing you don't really see.

[Podcast Host]

Oh man.

[Cinema Men]

So I just think it's. I think they're underrated, dude. Under sound off, what do you guys think?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Get your hands on some gray jeans.

[Cinema Men]

Sorry to interrupt.

[Podcast Host]

The boxes are Hanes. The jewelry is Josandra Bottega and a vintage piece from Paris. The shades are Bottega and that's all she wrote, folks. Fit check complete. All right, two hours. The Alex Russell, I want to ask you as a movies guy.

[Cinema Men]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Cinema Men. A Cinema Men.

[Dana]

Yep.

[Podcast Host]

What's like the. The number one question you always want to. And it's different with Alex. Right. And we had on Mag earlier and like anytime we have like a director, it's tends to be someone we know. What's like the number one. What's the number one thing you like really want to ask as a. As a movie file?

[Cinema Men]

Well, it's something that I feel like.

[Podcast Host]

A movie as a.

[Cinema Men]

As a cinephile. What I want to know as a cine. And I talk. After I saw Lurker the. You know, in preparation for this, I spoke to Alex at length on the phone just to catch up and then also not to lay the seeds for the pod because we were already talking to the PR people. But for me, what I want to know. And this is not something I'm. I'm not name not bragging or name dropping. Dropping that I was talking to Alex on the phone. What I want to know is I want to talk about my interpret interpretation of the themes and what I saw and sometimes the ending, especially one like Lurker that I think we can both agree is a bit ambiguous. And I think it's an interesting ending. It doesn't tie things up, I don't think.

[Podcast Host]

Like I smell sequel.

[Cinema Men]

Yeah, right.

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