*PATREON PREVIEW* Meet the Assbros

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Throwing Fits — PATREON PREVIEW Meet the Assbros

Date: April 10, 2026
Hosts: James Harris (“the Croc King”) & Lawrence Lossman (“the Vans Vixen”)

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Episode Overview

In this Patreon preview, the Assbros (James and Lawrence) riff on personal style trends for spring/summer, the resurgence (and limits) of Vans, swapping breakfast hot takes, and the ongoing dialectic between classic and maximalist fashion. They give listeners an inside look at their current fits, muse on regional style influences (East vs. West Coast), and detour into nostalgia for struggle meals and microwaved pancakes. This episode is relaxed, bantery, and heavy on personal stories and preferences.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Spring/Summer Footwear Trends: Return of Vans

• Lawrence shares his current experimentation with Vans Authentics, debating whether the "Vans wave" is ascendant or just in his head.
  • "One pathway is simply Vans." (01:21)
• James recounts meeting someone from Vans at Haven and muses on how sneaker brands try to engineer moments of hype through collaborations and big marketing pushes.
  • "Every sneaker brand will try to make a push as the brand... and then the halo effect will last however long." (01:56)
• They discuss the cyclical nature of brand popularity, referencing Puma's repeated attempts that never fully land ("Shout out everyone in Speedcats").
• Lawrence breaks down two simultaneous footwear paths:
  1. Deck shoe/classics trend: Fits into classic menswear and "flat-footed warriors."
  2. Maximalist streetwear collabs: Including tongue-in-cheek shoutouts to “Fake Chanel Vans” and the surprising existence of a “Vans tabby”.
• Both hosts agree there's a limit:
  • "Never will I ever wear a Vans tabby, that's for goddamn sure." — James (03:30)
  • "Maybe it's time to shut it down." — Lawrence (03:36)
• Fit with the Zeitgeist:
  • "As Buck Mason rises... you have this Cali, hazy, vibey, Venice Beach, Southern California vibe that’s dominating aesthetics." — James (04:00)

2. East vs. West Coast Menswear Energy

• Lawrence notes the simultaneous influence of West Coast “vibey” style rising with brands like Buck Mason, alongside an East Coast “JFK Jr. glazing”—preppy classics with technical Nikes.
• Cites Ralph Lauren as the perennial expert of juxtaposing classics and sneakers.
  • "I'm taking a bow in a navy blazer and jeans and then, like, upper number Jordans." — Lawrence (04:36)
• The hosts frame their experimentation as a mix of nostalgia, personal aging, and the search for trends that feel authentic to them:
  • "As a newly minted 39-year-old, you're just doing streetwear dad." — James (05:39)
  • "Today is kind of a streetwear dad guy vibe." — Lawrence (05:43)

3. The Weekly Fit Check

(Timestamps aligned per fit description for key pieces and reflections.)

Lawrence's Fit (06:03-08:23)

• Shoes: Test driving Vans Authentics (maybe Vaults).
• Socks: Shiro.
• Jeans: Our Legacy Workshop x Emporio Armani.
• Track Jacket: Supreme (old Prada reference).
  • "Probably should start wearing them and getting my money's worth." — Lawrence (06:32)
• Tee: Stüssy x Mountain Hardware (baby blue, "makes my eyes pop").
• Hat: Comme des Garçons Homme.
  • "I always forget I have this. It's real..." — Lawrence (07:46)
• Sunglasses: Gucci.
• Underwear: Skims.

James's Fit (08:24+)

• Shoes: Our Legacy embossed croc white loafers.
  • "Mike Ekhouse said these were giving ass croc cunt." — James (08:37), and Lawrence agrees.
• Socks: Lusso Waffle knit.
• The segment segues into their classic banter/food detour.

4. Breakfast Hot Takes & Nostalgia

• Are you a pancake or waffle guy?
  • "Dude, I am a savory breakfast guy, not a sweet breakfast." — Lawrence (08:59)
  • Both agree table pancakes are a vibe, but generally prefer savory.
  • Critique of social media pancakes: "The worst now is TikTok pancakes... it's like cake for the table." — James (09:36)
• James shares nostalgia for “microwaved pancakes in a plastic pouch” at his grandma’s, loaded with margarine, and Lawrence notes these meals were more about love than culinary skill.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Sneaker Brand Resurrection:
  • "It's funny, all of a sudden, Vans is back—this happened two years ago." — James (02:37)
  • "You measure our plans in seasons, we measure our waffles in seasons." — Lawrence (02:46)
• On Personal Style:
  • "Go for the GR (general release), be a GR god." — Lawrence (06:11)
• On Aging and Style:
  • "As a newly minted 39-year-old, you're just doing streetwear dad." — James (05:39)
  • "Divorced dad going to coach his son at Little League." — Both hosts riffing (05:47)
• On Nostalgia & Struggle Meals:
  • "Nostalgia is one hell of a drug." — Lawrence (10:16)
  • "My grandmother… not a wizard in the kitchen, but the meals tasted so good at the time. Made with love." — Lawrence (10:25)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:41 – Intro, hosts introduce themselves and set the run of show.
• 01:16 – Fit check begins.
• 01:46-04:00 – Footwear trends: The case for Vans, what’s happening in the sneaker world, and brand cycles.
• 04:00-05:39 – Aesthetics: Cali/SoCal vs. JFK Jr. & RL-core on the East Coast.
• 06:03-08:23 – Both hosts’ fit breakdowns.
• 08:55-10:31 – Pancakes vs. waffles, bean breakfasts, and grandma’s cooking.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a microcosm of Throwing Fits: plenty of digressions, fashion talk leavened by self-deprecation, and a sense of community for people trying to dress (and eat) with both intention and a healthy sense of irony. The hosts’ playful disagreement on Vans, candid nostalgia, and willingness to clown both themselves and the broader menswear world makes this a fun, relatable listen for core fans and newcomers alike.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

throw gang we are joined by the Vans Vixen, Lawrence Lossman, myself the croc king James Harris. Welcome to the weekly run of the boys.

[C]

For today's what's up with www.thrillfits.com before

[B]

we get into hold on, I'm going on DND before we get into bad month for the washed goats.

[C]

Terrible month.

[B]

I got a new favorite. Riz Maxing evil streamer that just dropped. Can't wait to about that guy.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And we're going to decode some dress codes for some upcoming events. Yeah, codes, dress code switching. Before all that though, let's get into a fit chick. Larry, what do you got on your body?

[C]

Well, I'm test driving some vans authentics.

[B]

Are these the havens?

[C]

No.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I have those on ice. Those are good money. But these are. No, these are just some. I mean maybe these are vans vault just like you know, your classic vans. I you and I have or I've rather talked at you about two potential pathways for spring summer foot where I do not know if this is something some things that are just in my own head or if these have any legs but one pathway is simply vans

[B]

back vans is making some moves. I met the dude. I met a guy advance at the haven.

[C]

Mr. Van.

[B]

I met Mr. Van. I met Mr.— Authentic. I met Mr.— off the wall and I was like yo. Like obviously Van. It's funny how like every, every like a a sneaker brand will try to make a push is like the the brand.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

And then like the halo effect of that will last like however long Puma tries every year hasn't happened yet.

[C]

Shout everyone in speed cats.

[B]

I guess asap. Rocky is the creative director of their

[C]

formula one sure division speed.

[B]

Yeah. Shout out rock him Myers and I'm like, how long does it take, like, you know, to like, line up all the collaborations and the marketing and get the money and convince people internally and, like, get. And, you know, shift budgets around? It's few years.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's funny that, like.

[C]

So it's a long tail.

[B]

Yeah. It's like, oh, shit. All of a sudden, like, your van's back. It's like that this happened two years ago.

[C]

They've been putting in the work for centuries.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's like, I think it's a.

[B]

You measure our plans in seasons, we

[C]

measure our waffles in seasons. It's like one. Is that just like, okay. For all my flat footed warriors out there, like, you know, classics. The general classic menswear is a thing that is happening. So it would make sense to me that a deck shoe style footwear would be potentially a maneuver that is acceptable and dare I say, cool. But then there's also all the weird maximalist street wear collabs that vans, like, is doing Chanel vans and Satoshi Nakamoto. What?

[B]

Fake Chanel.

[C]

Fake Chanel vans. Right. And it's like, okay, those are butt.

[B]

But I kind of. With the fake Chanel ones. Not. I would never wear them.

[C]

Never wear those.

[B]

Never. I would never wear them. But I can appreciate them.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

Never will never wear a van's tabby. That's for goddamn sure.

[C]

There's a Vans tabby.

[B]

Yeah, bro.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

All right. Maybe it's time to shut it down. Maybe you got to stop vans. Maybe you got to put them back on the wall.

[B]

They got a van's Gina on the feet.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I think also vans.

[C]

You can't wear vans.

[B]

Right. My. I have very high arches, so it's tough for me to wear vans.

[C]

There it is.

[B]

Except for the eg slip ons. For some reason.

[C]

Those classic.

[B]

Yeah, well, it's like he's wearing two

[C]

pairs of shoes, bro. Yeah, dude.

[B]

Vans, I think, dovetails nicely into this overall general aesthetic we're seeing that we'll talk about and kind of have been talking about a lot recently with like, I think that as Buck Mason rises, you kind of have this like Cali, like hazy vibey, you know, Venice Beach, India, India Valley, Baja, like Southern California vibes that are kind of dominating, I don't know, just general aesthetics and like, more the mainstream bros. And not necessarily like the fashion guys, but guys I want to like, think they're into fashion and they're like, oh, yeah, yeah. I got a Nipolo.

[C]

A rising tide lifts all shits in that regard. Right. Like that's gonna happen. Now it's funny you mentioned the west coast because the other pathway I'm kind of seeing is like more of an east coast thing which like, okay, sure. This is based on. This is in the ether and I think is approaching a level of acceptability because of the JFK junior glazing, how he would wear weird like, you know, off kilter technical Nikes with like juxtaposed with like more kind of preppy, normal, dare I say classics again. Fits. And then of course the Ralph Lauren goes hard style of the goat. Doing that all the time. Like I'm taking a bow in a navy blazer and jeans in a western belt and then like upper number Jordans. Right. So I think that. And I've obviously trying both of these things. I wore my Jordan fourteens on the

[B]

core for your birthday.

[C]

I got my pants on today. And whether or not those are like actual sexual trends that like are. That anyone is going to participate in, I am dabbling and test driving both of those. Those are my working theories that I've been really trying to get off my chest for about a month.

[B]

I mean as a newly minted 39 year old, you're also kind of just like doing streetwear dad.

[C]

Yeah, kinda. Today is kind of a streetwear dad guy vibe. You look like a streetwear streetwear dog dad.

[B]

Yeah, like a divorced dad going to coach his son at little league and

[C]

look co. Yeah, yeah, dude, absolutely.

[B]

Words on your shit.

[C]

1. Oh, actually I was gonna say one word.

[B]

4. 5.

[C]

Okay, so moving on to my experience.

[B]

We're bullish on vans.

[C]

I'm. I am.

[B]

I'm personally not, but I see them definitely take a chunk out of the summer.

[C]

Yeah. And I always will say that when it comes to a thing like this, a vans authentic or a slip on is a better option than like the Prada Keds plimsol. That's like 600, maybe even more 900. I'll always be the guy that just go for the. Go for the jee gr. Go for the gr Be a GR God. Moving on up. The socks are Shiro. The jeans are our legacy workshop in Porio Armani. The tracky is supreme. I have two of these in different colors and I figured it was about time I probably should start wearing them and getting my money's worth. Yeah, the. And they're based on old Prada references, which is cool.

[B]

Speaking of Prada, did it say Prada down the chest here?

[C]

No, but it was this kind of like technical tartan with, like, these pops on the zippers and the piping. I mean, the product versions are obviously, like, way sicker. I just don't think I could ever find any of that in my size. So here we are with the Supreme.

[B]

What do you mean you're small?

[C]

Now, the supreme team version, we'll get into a health check. As always. The tea is Stussy Mountain hardware in a nice baby blue that makes my eyes pop. The hat is.

[B]

You can't see. You're covering up the T because you're going full zip.

[C]

No, I know, but, like, because I'm just trying to look cool on video. On the.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Yeah, there we go. Wow.

[B]

The product checked. Oh.

[C]

What's the deal? What's the damage? You think they're whack?

[B]

I think this looks cooler.

[C]

Oh, okay. They're hooded, right?

[B]

It's a little too golfy.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Is this what you're talking about? It's 950.

[C]

Yes. That is exactly why. That is literally the. The reference to this jacket.

[B]

950 on eBay. Size small. Size 46.

[C]

Yeah, that's not gonna work.

[B]

Runway rare.

[C]

Yeah, that's a. That's a banger. Yeah, there's hooded version there. Like, there's. There's like, climbing jacket gorpy versions. There's track jacket versions. It's a. It's a cool reference. And that is the world famous supreme team difference. The hat is. I always forget I have this. It's a comme des garcon ohm hat. And because of, like. No, it's real. And because of Worcester's kind of enthusiasm and exuberance for comb, and we talked a bit about this on the midweek boys Only the comb that we own, I always forget that I had this. I never wear it. So it's busted out today. The sunglasses are Gucci. The underwear are skims, and that is it for me. What are you wearing, James?

[B]

On the feet? I got embossed croc. Not croc skin, embossed croc. Leather croc pattern on the leather. Our legacy. White loafers. Spicy. I think Mike Ekhouse said that these were giving.

[C]

They absolutely. If I could. If I could agree with Mike, they are. If I could agree with Mr. Gay Lobster himself. These are giving as croc cunt.

[B]

The socks are Lusso Waffle waffle knit.

[C]

Those look tasty.

[B]

One of the best knits out there, if you ask me.

[C]

Yeah, one of the best souls as well.

[B]

Yeah, one of the best. Breakfast. Your waffle guy or pancake guy?

[C]

Dude, I am a Savory breakfast guy. Not a sweet breakfast.

[B]

Okay, but if you had to choose

[C]

between the two waffles and what?

[B]

Pancakes?

[C]

Pancake. All time.

[B]

All.

[C]

All the time.

[B]

As the owner of a pancake ass.

[C]

Yeah, exactly. I got to support my own. What. What do you. What do you go with?

[B]

Damn. I don't know.

[C]

Maybe we'll. I don't.

[B]

I'm. I'm with you. Savory breakfast beans all the way.

[C]

Yeah. On toast.

[B]

I'm pretty split between pancakes and waffles.

[C]

Can I say hot? They're both mid.

[B]

I don't know about that. Sometimes they hit.

[C]

If you're. If I was at, like, there's a diner by me that I love. Shout out Mike's Coffee Shop. Jen and I will go there. You get a pancake or two, a stack for the table. But you need your worst. But you need a grand slam.

[B]

The worst now is the tick tock pancakes, where it's like the Rising. It's like a cake.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Cake for the table. I mean, I have a soft spot in my. In my heart for. When I went to my grandmother's, she would do, like microwave pancakes with antimony and syrup just slathered and like fake butter. It was fucking delicious.

[C]

Fake butter is what? Like, I can't believe it's not butter.

[B]

Whatever old people have. Okay. But they were. The pancakes that you, like, literally, like, came in like a plastic pouch, like trading cards.

[C]

Okay, cool.

[B]

You threw them in the microwave tight, and you fudgeing zapped it and then probably, you know, die of cancer because

[C]

of those real quick. My grandma would also make. Was she a bad cook or just, like, how would you define.

[B]

She was like an Irish widow. So she would just eat a steak and potato every day and live to 96.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, my grandmother, also not a wizard in the kitchen, but it's something. It's obviously nostalgia, which is one hell of a drug. But the meals that she would make, which, looking back, are depression era, struggle style meals. Like, I just think about how they tasted so good at the time. I think because they're made with love, probably.

[B]

Yeah.