*PATREON PREVIEW* New Pod Rules

Summary

Throwing Fits – PATREON PREVIEW New Pod Rules

Date: October 29, 2025
Hosts: Jimmy and Larry
Episode Summary:
This bonus, “afters” episode finds hosts Jimmy and Larry catching up after a recent wild main episode, swapping travel war stories, and sharing inside dirtbag wisdom for navigating corporate travel headaches, airport etiquette (or lack thereof), and developing new corporate expense policies. The informal, bantering tone is peppered with practical tips, questionable hacks, and deadpan confessions—aimed squarely at their patreon supporters behind the paywall.

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Main Theme

Post-Episode Debrief & Traveler’s Confessional
Jimmy and Larry decompress after a rowdy guest segment, sharing their own recent travel experiences and “dirtbag” lifehacks, especially concerning how to game airline customer service and expense policies. The episode doubles as both a venting session and a comedic advice hour, holding no sacred cows when it comes to the rules of travel.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Red-Eye Etiquette and Expense Justifications

• Corporate Travel Justifications:
  • Flying business on red-eyes is rationalized as a practical business expense:

    “When we have to red-eye for work, we will fly business so that we can hit the ground running...that way we pay for one less night at the hotel. Hotel in the sky.” – A (00:46)

• Admission of Economy Flying:
  • Despite their image, even the hosts occasionally slum it in economy for the right price.

    “I flew economy back home from San Francisco...I bought a main cabin ticket for $466 round trip. Had a $200 credit, so it’s $266.” – A (01:02)

2. The Upgrade Gauntlet and Airline Quality

• Delta Upgrade Path:
  • Jimmy details a series of upgrades from Main Cabin to Comfort Plus, and then—surprisingly—Delta One, only to find the plane “from 1995” and the seat amenities laughably outdated:

    “My chair had a massage function that was defunct...” – A (01:51)

• Unexpected Seat Assignments:
  • Despite status, upgrades don't always yield good seats:

    "I got upgraded into it as I’m boarding the plane...I didn’t want this seat because it’s next to the bathroom." – A (02:27)

3. Maximizing Refunds and Credits Using AI

• Complaint Letter Automation:
  • When stuck with a broken seat, Jimmy lets ChatGPT handle the complaint writing:

    “I have ChatGPT write a complaint email…fired off. By the time I land, I got another $200 credit.” – A (02:35, 02:50)

  • Even when the full refund is denied ("because I got upgraded"), the $200 credit is nearly guaranteed.

• Host Pro Tip:

  “If you basically fire off any complaint, I’m pretty sure…it’s basically guaranteed [you get] a $200 credit.” – B (03:12)

4. Customer Service “Hacks” for Everyday Apps

• General Refund Tactics:
  • The hosts casually share how easy it is to get refunds or credits on Amazon, Uber, Grubhub, Seamless:

    “You should tell Amazon that every package that you ordered was not delivered...ask for a refund, [they’ll] give it to you.” – A (03:29) “Grubhub, seamless…you could always easily get any credit for any food.” – B (03:49)

5. Airport Ethics – or Lack Thereof

• Self-Checkout Shoplifting:
  • The ultimate “dirtbag” move:

    “Never pay for anything at any airport...if it’s self checkout, you just steal everything.” – B (04:00) “You steal stuff?” – A (04:12)
    “I don’t pay for water. I steal it.” – B (04:13)

• Water Bottle Ligic:
  • Jimmy challenges the sustainability logic, to which Larry confesses he’s just refilling branded water bottles at the airport for “colder” water (04:19–04:32).
• Moral Calculus:
  • They debate whether these “refund hacks” penalize delivery drivers or workers, with Jimmy showing some flash of guilt:

    “I don’t know...I take it all back.” – A (03:57–04:00)

6. Expensing Meals & New Corporate Policies

• Expense Account Flashbacks:
  • Jimmy recalls a hefty “snacky poo” expense on the corporate card at an airport steakhouse:

    “Why didn’t you steal the last time you—there’s a moment where you put, I don’t know, 115 on the TF corporate card...a sashimi and like a beer when we were flying to Vegas...” – A (04:45)

  • Larry claims no memory, but agrees on new stricter policies:

    “…that probably set in motion a definitive travel corporate card policy that we are now 100% on the same page.” – B (05:26) “100%.” – A (05:34)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On travel hacking:

  “If you basically fire off any complaint, I’m pretty sure…it’s basically guaranteed you get a $200 credit.” – B (03:12)

• On airport shoplifting:

  “Never pay for anything at any airport...if it’s self checkout, you just steal everything.” – B (04:00)

• On business travel ethics:

  “Hotel in the sky. I’m not gonna—I’ll admit it.” – A (00:58)

• On expense regrets:

  “…that probably set in motion a definitive travel corporate card policy that we are now 100% on the same page.” – B (05:26)

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Timestamps: Segment Highlights

• 00:46 – Justifying business class on red-eyes
• 01:02–01:26 – Jimmy’s economy-to-Delta upgrade journey
• 02:09 – Broken seat drama and ChatGPT-powered airline complaints
• 03:12 – The $200 airline credit “guarantee”
• 03:29–03:57 – Refund hacks for Amazon, Uber, food delivery
• 04:00–04:45 – Airport self-checkout stealing confessions
• 05:02–05:34 – Corporate card abuse & new spending policy

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Tone and Style

The episode stays true to the Throwing Fits ethos: irreverent, deadpan, and unapologetically “dirtbag”—offering both real and tongue-in-cheek advice for getting by on the road, with a strong undercurrent of travel mischief. While the hacks and confessions keep the banter light, genuine regret and self-reflection sneak in around the edges, adding a humanizing touch.

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Summary Takeaway

For listeners, this episode is equal parts travel tips, comedy, and cautionary tale—a glimpse into the gray-area strategies of grizzled podcasters who treat life, travel, and expense accounts as a game to be played for maximum personal advantage…but who, ultimately, know when to set new rules.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome to the afters. Uncut bonus content for all the homies behind the paywall platform we're currently on. It is July 22, so I don't really know that's what's happening right now. Uncut bonus content for all the homies. Catching up with Jimmy and Larry. Post a raucous hour and a half with new best friend.

[B]

Oh, dude, come on now. The best.

[A]

You want to see his name?

[B]

Obi.

[A]

That's.

[B]

Well, that's the. That's the level I'm on with him.

[A]

Okay. Obong. There it is. AKA Obi the homie. AKA the Emirati of economy class. Dude, you know, I felt kind of bad.

[B]

Like, were we going too hard?

[A]

It's a bit. Right. Like, when we. When we. When we have to. Red eye for work, we will fly business so that we can hit the ground running.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It is a business expense also. That way we pay for one less day of the. Of a hotel.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

One last night at the hotel. Hotel in the sky. I'm not gonna.

[B]

I'll admit it.

[A]

I flew economy back home from San Francisco.

[B]

Oh, you did? I was gonna ask you the last time you flew economy, but it was clearly the last time you flew.

[A]

Well, I. I bought a main cabin ticket for. It was $466 round trip.

[B]

That wasn't included in the birthday gift.

[A]

No. What? No. $466 round trip. I had a 200 credit, so it's $266.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I got upgraded to prem. Economy. Yeah. Delta. Delta plus. What is it?

[B]

Comfort plus.

[A]

Comfort plus. And then I got upgraded into Delta one. This plane, I looked it up was from 1995. It was a piece of crazy. Like, the TV looked like. Like I was like, watching TV on. Like, on your laptop.

[B]

All right, the laptop's probably better.

[A]

Absolutely. Way better.

[B]

Res.

[A]

They're like ashtrays.

[B]

Shout out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Serious. Shout out.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, my. My chair had a massage function that was defunct. It was. And on the way back, you know, got upgraded into comfort plus, however. Oh, very caring of me. My seat was broken.

[B]

No reclining.

[A]

It would recline. But if as soon as I took any pressure off the chair back, it would immediately shoot up. Damn. Spring situation fired up chat. GBT told the situation, you know, as a diamond medallion member that got upgraded into a seat that I. First of all, I got upgraded into it as I'm boarding the plane.

[B]

Really? No heads up?

[A]

No heads up. Interesting. I didn't want this seat because it's.

[B]

Next to the bathroom. Mr. Harris, your broken seat Please.

[A]

I'm very intentional with my seat choices.

[B]

Aisle or window?

[A]

Preferably window. I had to go aisle and bulkhead. But yeah, I got put next to the bathrooms some for some reason. So I have chat GPT write a complaint email or complaint letter. I use chat GP to figure out who to send it to.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I fired off who did. By the time I land. By the time I land, I got another $200 credit. That's St. And they said we're going to, you know, lift this, you know, surface this to like the refunds department.

[B]

Oh, to get a full refund potentially on the.

[A]

I will say give me my $266 back.

[B]

I. I know that I'm sure.

[A]

And the refund got rejected because I got upgraded.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

Well, you know, I didn't ask for that upgrade.

[B]

Mean, I'm sure there's a lot of seasonal tra travelers that listen to the only podcast that matters. But yeah, if you basically fire off any complaint, I'm pretty sure it's like in my experience, you're going to get a $200 credit.

[A]

Oh, it's great.

[B]

Yeah, it's like g. It's basically guaranteed. If you have any legitimate gripe whatsoever.

[A]

You should tell, you should tell Amazon that every package that you ordered was not delivered.

[B]

Oh, for sure.

[A]

Ask for a refund. Give it to you. Every time there's an Uber mix up, tell them that it was like, you know, well, actually don't do that because then that puts the burden on the driver. But you'll get like a, A fee or. Sorry, not a fee. Credit, credit, for sure.

[B]

I mean, grubhub, seamless. You always. You could all easily get any credit for any food, whether it was delivered.

[A]

Does that personalize the delivery driver?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I'm just penalized the Amazon driver. Oh, you know what? I take it all back.

[B]

I'm just talking solely as like, if you want to be a seller's person, then. Also speaking of airports, never buy, pay for anything at any airport. Like self checkout establishment. You just steal everything.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Are you joking?

[A]

You steal stuff.

[B]

I don't pay for water. I steal it.

[A]

You don't have. You don't bring your clean canteen.

[B]

If I, if I do what I like to do would be like to then put an essentia in here.

[A]

Okay. That kind of defeats the purpose of using a reusable bottle. Keeps it colder.

[B]

But I see what you're saying, like, do you want to. You, you want to use the. What is that called the, the water fountain?

[A]

The water station.

[B]

Yeah, the water. Catch me at the water station. Yeah but anyway. Or okay, how about not water Cheez. Its whatever you want. Yes.

[A]

You don't need Cheez.

[B]

It literally steal that.

[A]

Why didn't you steal the last time you. There's a moment where you put I don't know 115 on the TF corporate card where you got a like you got like a sashimi and like a beer when we were like flying one time to Vegas before you then had like a Wade Boggsian amount of beers on the.

[B]

Well if that's a restaurant, you can't. I'm not saying run out. Why you still that can't run out on a bill. I'm saying if it's self checkout. I don't think the Shashimian beer was self check. I also have no idea what you're talking about.

[A]

You don't remember this?

[B]

I don't eat. Sh. Was it. It couldn't have been Shashimi. It must have been like.

[A]

It was like a shishito peppers or something.

[B]

Oh a little like just a little snacky poo at a steakhouse.

[A]

But post tip was $100 at the airport bar. You and your term.

[B]

I think that's what probably set in motion a definitive travel corporate card policy that we are now 100% on the same page.

[A]

100%.