*PATREON PREVIEW* Overrated Menswear Lore

Summary

Throwing Fits – PATREON PREVIEW Overrated Menswear Lore

Date: June 5, 2026
Hosts: Lawrence Schlossman and James Harris

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Episode Overview

This episode offers a lively, candid discussion between hosts Lawrence and James as they check in from Brooklyn and Paris, reflecting on personal routines, travel exhaustion, the struggle to feel inspired by menswear retail, and the current "flattening" of style stores worldwide. Through anecdotes and the minutiae of their lives—tailors in Paris, lucky hats, and vintage shopping—the hosts dissect why certain legendary menswear shops (and trends) might be overrated and what actually sparks genuine excitement today.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Nomadic Living and Fashion Problems

• Lawrence checks in from a "fifth floor walk-up" in Paris, coping with a knee injury and a lack of routine on his travels.
  • "I have a love hate relationship with Paris. When you're kind of like a nomad for two weeks. Ish. It's tough to just, like, chill." (01:33, Lawrence)
• James empathizes, noting Paris' own complicated relationship with Americans, and jokes about Lawrence's "skill issue" in adapting.
  • "That might be like a skill issue, personal problem on your part. But I get it..." (01:50, James)

2. Fit Checks & Personal Routine Updates

• James logs in from Brooklyn, rocking Uggs, vintage Nike tennis shorts ("I am an interloper when it comes to your favorite sport"), and an Our Legacy CP Company tee he discovered deep in his own closet.
  • "I forgot that I had bought this...just like hidden in a drawer. And when I was attempting to do some cleaning, I was like, oh, this is cool, I should wear that." (02:24, James)
• The hosts discuss gym woes and post-travel resets, confessing reluctance to self-care:
  • James: "I mean, I should be doing more cleaning, but definitely getting my life in order generally since coming back to LA, which was absolutely wonderful..." (03:06, James)
  • Lawrence: "Give yourself some grace." (03:56, Lawrence)

3. Superstitions & Lucky Accessories

• James wears a 47 Brand Knicks hat for luck during playoff games, regardless of pretension:
  • "If I was a pretentious douchebag, I'd be like, I can't wear a 47 brand Knicks hat. But...I'm associating it with...amazing luck and good vibes." (04:11, James)
• Underwear and sock choices—Supreme Hanes and Second Layer pants—lead into tailoring talk.

4. Parisian Tailoring vs. New York Tailoring

• Lawrence brings pants to Paris for tailoring, trusting local "retouchers" for their expertise in maintaining the shape of flared pants:
  • "I love my tailors in New York, but I might gotta trust the Parisian experts...Fashion just like such more, you know, endemic and ingrained in the culture here." (05:47, Lawrence)
• Discussion of unique terminology ("retoucheur" for tailor), and the hope that Parisian craftsmanship can outshine NY.

5. Retail Inspiration & The "Great Flattening" of Menswear

• Lawrence describes rediscovering his excitement for clothing at C Fan, a hole-in-the-wall Paris shop focused exclusively on Korean brands:
  • "It was the first time in a long time...I walked into a non-vintage, multi-brand store...and it felt like every single thing I was touching was like a discovery." (08:18, Lawrence)
• They bemoan that many stores worldwide now feel interchangeable:
  • "It feels like these days...it's a permutation of the same labels...I feel like I could be anywhere...I'm in menswear liminal space." (09:14, Lawrence)
  • "The great flattening of menswear retail." (09:20, James)

6. Globalization & Curation in Retail

• The risk aversion in independent retail:
  • "At all these retailers, or even vintage retailers, [they] are almost suffering from success...this is the shit that's going to sell and it's going to move...but the risk-takers, you hope that the curation you're bringing...is going to resonate." (10:01, James)
• Korean menswear’s unique position, possibly subsidized by corporate giants like Samsung and LG:
  • "I'm pretty ignorant to the menswear scene in Korea, even though I know it's booming because it's probably propped up and subsidized by Samsung...and LG, let's be honest." (11:13, Lawrence)
• C Fan, despite being small and modest, stands out as an authentic, long-running shop:
  • "It's this little hole in the wall. It's been around for 15 years." (11:45, Lawrence)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Parisian Fashion Superiority:
  • "I'm going to bring these Armani pants to Paris because I believe I trust the retouchers here maybe more so than I trust [New York]." (05:47, Lawrence)
• On Retail Boredom:
  • "It just feels like a lot of times you just fucking walk in a store...and it's the same...labels that are showing up in the same substacks and the same newsletters and the same content creators are glazing them." (08:38, Lawrence)
• On Risk in Retail:
  • "It's too risky to maybe, like, put yourself really out there. And I'm not saying that this place, C Fan, is like, putting themselves out there. I'm just saying that for me, someone that's, like, pretty ignorant to the menswear scene in Korea, even though I know it's booming..." (10:31, Lawrence)
• On Menswear Homogenization:
  • "I feel like I could be anywhere. I feel like I'm in an airport. I'm in menswear liminal space." (09:14, Lawrence)
• On Store Longevity:
  • "It's been around for 15 years." (11:52, Lawrence)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:30 – Lawrence shares Paris frustrations and travel fatigue
• 02:24 – James’s fit check and rediscovered tee
• 03:36 – Gym routines, self-critique, and giving grace
• 04:11 – The "lucky" Knicks hat
• 05:16 – Paris tailors vs. NY; trusting Parisian "retouchers"
• 08:18 – The thrill of discovery at C Fan, a Parisian Korean menswear shop
• 09:14 – The "great flattening" and homogenization of global menswear retail
• 10:01 – Risk aversion for indie retailers and dealers, and what’s lost
• 11:36 – C Fan’s authenticity and longevity

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Conclusion

This episode is a wry, perceptive meditation on the personal and cultural ruts of men’s style, the joys and letdowns of retail therapy, and how even fashion-hardened pros can find a glimmer of excitement—in a Parisian side street, or a forgotten tee at home. Lawrence and James, true to Throwing Fits’ spirit, balance genuine critique with humor and vulnerability, dismissing hype and pretense while searching for what makes style feel fresh again.

Transcript

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[Lawrence Schlossman]

we are joined by. He must be eating Chinese food. How he's going hard for msg. Lawrence Schlossman, myself, the VAT tax titan, James Harris. Welcome to the weekly run of the Boys with today's full episode Only available

[James Harris]

on www.ThrowingFits.com or.fr before we get into

[Lawrence Schlossman]

experiencing PSG mayhem firsthand, learning about African hair products in Paris. That's not why I'm here. But it should be. And the most overrated legendary menswear store in the game.

[James Harris]

Let's get into a fit check what's up, dude, you're still in Paris, I see.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

Bonjour. Ceiling party.

[James Harris]

You're over it.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

I hate it. Yeah, no kidding. Well, I have a love hate, love hate relationship with Paris. When you're kind of like a nomad for two weeks. Ish. Here. Yeah, it's tough to just like chill. It's, it's tough to, to be chill here.

[James Harris]

That might be like a skill issue, personal problem on your part. But I get it because I feel like Paris also has a love hate relationship or maybe just a hate relationship with Americans. So you're just on the receiving end of that some degree.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

It's more just like being on like the, like the nomadic wave. Like not having routine, not having like a permanent place.

[James Harris]

Oh, Jimmy Kryptonite.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

Yeah. And like when you're, when you're, you can only prepare for so much, right? Like beforehand's like it's raining. Yeah, you can have. I got brought a. It's cold. It was hot last week, now it's cold. I'm on a fifth floor walk up with a knee injury.

[James Harris]

Like, yeah, that. That sucks. That's. That at this point, at this point in your life that should be below your pay grade. Okay, fit check. I am at the CR crib right now in Brooklyn wearing Uggs vintage Nike tennis shorts because I am a interloper when it comes to your favorite sport. The tea is our legacy CP company. I forgot that I had bought this and it was just like in its packaging, never opened up, just like hidden in a drawer. And when I was attempting to do some cleaning, I was like, oh, this is cool, I should wear that. So we're wearing it today.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

The. That how you've been spending your. Your week. Just getting your life in order.

[James Harris]

Yeah.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

Post purging.

[James Harris]

I mean I should be doing more cleaning, but definitely getting my life in order generally since coming back to la, which was absolutely wonderful. But like for me, I mean if you're on the nomadic wave, I was definitely like, that was like I lived my little LA fantasy for three days and I'm. Which is weird that like I would go to LA and be like unhealthier and like.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

Oh, you aren't like hiking.

[James Harris]

No, dude, not at all. But anyway, we're.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

We're back.

[James Harris]

We're back on the routine and then

[Lawrence Schlossman]

that's the gym self. Yeah, I saw that.

[James Harris]

You know, and the, the because the gym in my building, as I've said before, is so shitty. That is like a nice amenity to have that will like get me to be active. But that lasted. That happened twice. So maybe half the time, whatever. Anyway.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

Okay, man, give yourself some grace.

[James Harris]

Yeah, I honestly need to start doing that. Okay.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

Definitely need to give yourself some grace.

[James Harris]

I mean, you know, I might. I'm right to the face. I'm my harshest critic. Well, actually that's not true. My life is.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

Your wife is.

[James Harris]

Is filled with harsh critics. The hat is my 47 brand Knicks hat, which if I was a pretentious douchebag, I'd be like, I can't wear a 47 brand Knicks hat. But this is a hat that I guess Jenna had got at some point that has like been in the house and I've been wearing it while watching all the playoff games. And like now I'm. And especially after last night, like I'm associating it with like clearly amazing luck and good vibes. So we're Wearing it on the pod. And then the underwear are supreme Hanes James.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

The socks are up there. The pants are second layer, which I brought these, I brought these to Paris to get tailored along with another pair of second wear pants and the Giorgio Armani pants that we were gifted by the gods in Milan so generously because I was like, yo, I love my tailors in New York, but I might gotta trust the Parisian experts with this one. So shout out JP at JP Retoche.

[James Harris]

Are these.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

Is how you call it, These just retoucher? It's just retoucher, is it?

[James Harris]

That's cool. Yeah. In Paris they're called retouchers. Are they just. You're just getting hem jobs on these pants?

[Lawrence Schlossman]

Like, hey, yo. Yeah. Well, these flare like, like a. So as do the other. The other pair that I got from secondary. I mean it was more like. It was. Honestly I was like, you know what, let me toss these secondary ones in because I want the guy to protect the angle of the flare.

[James Harris]

Sure.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

Retouch that angle just like for just a straight chop job.

[James Harris]

Got it.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

But I definite was primarily I was like, I'm going to bring these Armani pants to palace because I believe I trust the retouchers here maybe more so than I trust. I mean fashion just like such more, you know, endemic and ingrained in the culture here. So.

[James Harris]

Yeah, they invented it, right? Yeah.

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[Lawrence Schlossman]

Like, they called it gay in the 14th century. It took us until the 21st century to stop calling it that.

[James Harris]

Have you noticed, like, a higher level fidelity when it comes to retouching trousers now that you've gotten the work done?

[Lawrence Schlossman]

Well, I just threw these on, so I honestly haven't. I haven't put these on, but when I would try them on, I was like, I'm really happy, you know? And I. I just had. There was less. Less fear in my heart than when I dropped these off with the retoucher.

[James Harris]

Right. That is such an amazing. Wait, that. Okay, all right, we'll just go with that. All right, cool. I'm happy for you, dude.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

We touch these hams, boss. Yeah, the shirt is. I picked this up in Paris. Maybe we'll do a little haul. I don't know.

[James Harris]

Oh, I love a haul.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

It's a terrible name. It's. Well, I don't know if I'm gonna call it Terrible Dre. Project Dre. Like, Dr. Dre?

[James Harris]

Like, yeah, dude, west side. Or I guess that would be more like, I can't do with my left hand. Yeah, west side.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

Can't do west side with your left hand.

[James Harris]

No, dude, I'm. That's how white I am. I can't do it, dude. Anyway, wait, was it. Is it, like, Dre any, like, project?

[Lawrence Schlossman]

I couldn't find them on Instagram, but I got them at the store C Fan, which actually my brother put me onto because he lived here for a year. He's like, yo, go. Go check out the store. It's all Korean brands.

[James Harris]

Ooh.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

Which is sick because, like, it was the first time in a long time where I walked into, like, a. A non vintage, multi brand store that is kind of like, you know, not like, super high end, not like, I don't know, lower end streetwear. And it felt like every single thing I was touching was like a. A discovery. Ooh. Which it feels like, you know, sorry, starting to pour outside. All the fucking kids are closing the windows. It feels like these days, like, a lot of times you just fucking walk in a store, whether you're in New York, Paris, and it's like the same. It's a permutation of the same labels that are just, like, bought differently, merchandise differently. And it's the same labels that are showing up in the same substacks and the same newsletters and the same content creators are glazing them and talk about how it's the best thing ever, need to get them. It just feel it's just struck me as like I was just in a few stores here. I'm just like, yo, I feel like I'm in. I could be anywhere. I feel like I'm in an airport. I'm. I'm in menswear. Liminal space.

[James Harris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

It's the.

[James Harris]

The great flattening of menswear retail. So this, this was Matthew.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

I'm a Matthew McConant. Just be like, no, no, no.

[James Harris]

Interstellar.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

For the. That thing. Interstellar. Whatever that thing was.

[James Harris]

The tesseract.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

Yes.

[James Harris]

Yeah. Real science. Oh, that's exciting. So did you get like. You did. Did you rest it restored the feeling you got like that little fucking.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

I got. I got it. I got a. I got a glimpse of it.

[James Harris]

Oh, okay.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

We talked about this, right? We talk about how, like, in retail these days, there, it's rare that you, like, walk in and you're like, learning new shit. And Son, I think in New York is an example that both of us feel the way. But even vintage, right, Even vintage, it can feel. It just feels like there's like a. Like a flattening sameness to it all.

[James Harris]

Yeah, I mean, it's the. It's at all these retailers, or even vintage retailers are like, almost suffering from success where it's like, this is the shit that's going to sell and it's going to move. And, like, that's great because, like, we want retail, especially independent retail, to survive. But at the same time, the risk takers, like, you know, fucking shout out Ben at and Son, like, yeah, you hope that, you know, the curation that. That you're bringing to the table is going to, like, resonate, but you don't always know. But yeah, I feel you did.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

I mean, look, it's like, it's like this tier of contemporary men's where we. We. We found our. We found our level. We know what we like, you know, and obviously there's some disparity, disparages, disparity in there, you know, at various ends of, like, the spectrum. But it just feels like a lot of people have cracked the code. And I'm not saying it's wrong to be. To, like, sell the hits, but it's also like, it's too risky to maybe, like, put yourself really out there. And I'm not saying that this place, C Fan, is like, putting themselves out there. I'm just saying that for me, someone that's, like, pretty ignorant to the menswear scene in Korea, even though I know it's booming because it's probably propped up and subsidized by Samsung.

[James Harris]

Totally.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

And lg, let's be honest, by green text. What's that?

[James Harris]

It's a prop. It's propped up by green texts. Yeah, yeah.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

Why can't we subsidize our menswear?

[James Harris]

Right?

[Lawrence Schlossman]

And yeah, so it's cool. It was cool to go in there and like see some. And yo, this was like this like nice little flecked like thermal. Wait, so C fan, just 60, 60 Euro.

[James Harris]

Oh, I like that. And you might not have this answer, but C fan, are those Korean expats like running that store or are they like Korea files, like French people that are just obsessed?

[Lawrence Schlossman]

You know, it was two Korean guys in there. It's like this little hole in the wall. It's been around for 15 years.

[James Harris]

Oh wow.

[Lawrence Schlossman]

I was like, I was a little like, you guys can't like get a better space.

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