*PATREON PREVIEW* Scumbag Origins

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Throwing Fits — PATREON PREVIEW Scumbag Origins

Date: April 1, 2026
Hosts: Jimmy and Larry

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Episode Overview

In this lively midweek "boys only" episode, hosts Jimmy and Larry exchange banter following a recording with writer Mary H.K. Choi. The main theme revolves around nostalgia, podcasting chemistry, the nuances of "friend crushes," and—most memorably—the etymology and generational baggage behind the word "scumbag." They also include their signature “fit check” segment, dissecting each other’s wardrobe decisions. The episode is characteristically irreverent, self-deprecating, and peppered with cultural references.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Revisiting Mary H.K. Choi & Podcasting Prowess

• Reflection on Previous Episode with Mary H.K. Choi
  • The hosts recall recording with Mary six years prior, noting how surreal it feels to “time travel back to peak quarantine.” (00:47–01:26)
  • Discussion of Mary's natural ability as a podcaster:
    • Larry: “She’s one of the people…certain people are just built for it. She feels to me built for it.” (01:38)
• Podcasting Dynamics & “Friend Crushes”
  • The duo discusses the concept of a "friend crush": wanting to be close friends with someone for their energy or coolness rather than romantically.
  • Larry: “She’s someone that would absolutely be on the short list... She’s great.” (02:32)
• Jenna’s (Larry’s wife) Perspective
  • Larry confides that his wife Jenna “has a straight up crush” on Mary. (02:20)

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Changing Tastes: Drake, The Apprentice, and Reality TV

• From Drake Obsession to Disillusionment
  • Jimmy quizzes Larry about his former Drake fandom.
  • Larry: “The music is bad, bro.” (03:04)
  • Larry looks back with a mix of irony and candor—if he ever said “Drake is the coolest guy on earth,” it was “partly tongue in cheek.” (03:23)
• Cultural Flashback: The Apprentice
  • Jimmy: “I said, Donald Trump is a scumbag.” (04:37)
  • This prompts a story about Jimmy’s dad reacting strongly to the term “scumbag.”
• Generational Divide: The Word 'Scumbag'
  • Jimmy’s father found the word “scumbag” more offensive than expected, explaining it’s “something you jerk off into.” (05:00)
  • Both hosts muse on how certain insults (like “douchebag” and “scumbag”) are much more loaded for older generations. (05:11)

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Linguistics & Etymology: “Scumbag”

• Origins of the Term
  • Jimmy (reading): “‘The term originated in the 1960s/70s, potentially derived from a coarse slang term for a used condom.’” (05:24)
  • Larry: “Wow. A scumbag. That’s actually fire.” (05:33)
  • The pair riff on inventing new insults, joking, “Yo, that guy’s a real comeback. Let’s start that one, guys.” (05:41)
• Notable Quote:
  • Larry: “I am a people pleaser to a fault, clearly.” (02:32)

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Signature Segment: “Fit Check”

• Wardrobe Rundown

  • Larry walks through his “scumbag fit”:
    • Boots: Rider boots by Second Layer
    • Socks: Palace CK1 collaboration
    • Pants: Vintage Carhartt
    • Top: Cortez beater shirt, covered by a rare “Reir quarter zip” (06:13–06:51)

• Self-Deprecating Honesty

  • Larry admits to fibbing about the condition of his socks, confesses, and both joke about his addiction to lying then immediately confessing.
    • Larry: “I can’t tell a lie, but I have to immediately confess… The confessing feels so good.” (06:27–06:40)

• Fashion Economics

  • Discussion about the cost-per-wear of their quarter zips, the GQ “Midtown tech bro” fit feature, and how a once-hyped item loses exclusivity as time goes on. (06:51–08:19)
    • Jimmy: “The CPW has plummeted.” (07:19)
    • Larry: “We both got it for not a song, but at least a tune…” (07:27)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On “Friend Crushes”:
  • Jimmy: “You have a friend crush on everyone. You just want to be boys with everybody.” (02:30)
• On “Scumbag”:
  • Larry: “Wow. A scumbag. That’s actually fire.” (05:33)
  • Jimmy: “He was like, ‘No, it’s like something you jerk off into.’” (05:00)
• On Confession Culture:
  • Larry: “I’m addicted to lying and then confessing.” (06:35)
• On Fashion Regret/Evolution:
  • Jimmy: “You didn’t like the fit that had the Reir half zip as the Midtown tech bro…” (08:54)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:30 | Welcome back, banter about Mary H.K. Choi
• 01:18 | Reminiscing on early Throwing Fits episodes, podcasting dynamics
• 02:05 | What is a “friend crush”?
• 03:02 | Larry reflects on his past Drake obsession
• 04:10 | Jimmy’s family story: calling Trump a “scumbag”
• 05:24 | Etymology and generational views on “scumbag”
• 05:59 | Start of “Fit Check” segment
• 06:35 | Admissions about lying and confessing
• 07:19 | Discussing cost-per-wear and fashion purchases

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Summary

This quintessential “Throwing Fits” episode delivers self-aware nostalgia, inside jokes, and the kind of hyper-specific cultural riffing the podcast’s fans love. Jimmy and Larry’s dynamic is playfully antagonistic yet deeply affectionate, especially as they deconstruct podcast chemistry, friendship, the evolution of insults, and their own fashion purchases. The generational divide over the word “scumbag” and their tongue-in-cheek takes on fashion retain the irreverent, open-book tone that defines the show.

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Transcript

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[B]

Welcome back to another midweek boys only around and getting silly with Jimmy and Larry after two hours with Mary HK Choi. What does the HK stand for? Do we know?

[C]

I actually have no idea and have never dained to ask.

[B]

It's not Hong Kong, is it?

[C]

Oh Mary, the old Mary, Hong Kong choice.

[B]

She grew up in Hong Kong. I don't know. What a delight. Six years. It is crazy because like we podcast with her in September 2020. It was wild to go back over zoom. It was wild to go back into that run of show just to see if there's any like you know, questions or, or updates have. So Chuck, I guess Chuck and Sham and maybe Robbie used to like tap into those, those zooms right. And just be like on mute. And first of all, Chuck used to take like crazy awesome notes.

[C]

Copious.

[B]

Thank you Chuck.

[C]

Thank you for your service.

[B]

But also I guess just to kind of like time travel back to peak quarantine.

[C]

So that was one of the early throwing fits episodes.

[B]

Yes. September 2020.

[C]

That's crazy.

[B]

Six months after co happened which hey, it's six year anniversary was this past week.

[C]

That's wild. Yeah, she's, she's so smart and so great and like, like we were joking with her or I don't know if you were joking early with before we started recording earlier on but like she should have a podcast. She really should. Like she's, she's one of the people that like okay, we have other fellow podcasters on and we have guests that would never touch a fucking pod mic. And like certain people are just built for it. She feels to me built for it.

[B]

Do you have a friend crush on her friend?

[C]

What's a. I think I know what is explain more like you want to.

[B]

You're like oh, like I want to be friends.

[C]

Oh well yeah, because I don't think like I'm, I'm friendly with her. Known her for a long time. She knows Jenna. Jenna's a huge fan.

[B]

Did your wife ever find crush on her?

[C]

I Think. I think she has a fucking straight up crush. Not even a friend crush. Yeah, I think I should listen. I haven't really thought about that with people, though. I definitely know.

[B]

Never heard of friend.

[C]

No, but I mean, you have a

[B]

friend crush on everyone. You just want to be boys with everybody.

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I am a people pleaser to a fault, clearly. She's someone that would absolutely be on the short list if it was like, okay, well, you can. You can pick like 10 that it would happen or whatever. I think she'd be on there. She's great. If in terms of people I do already know. Not like Leonardo DiCaprio. LeBron James. LeBron James. Drake. I'm so drunk. Drake.

[B]

Dude, do you. Do you. Are you still madly in love with the boy like you once were?

[C]

No, I don't think so.

[B]

Can you now?

[C]

The music is bad, bro.

[B]

Hindsight being 20 20, do you now look back at your, like, Drake obsessiveness and you're like, damn, I know you're not. I'm not talking. I'm not trying to get you to, like, be self critical or kind of like walk through a trap here. I'm just saying that, like, there was a time where you were like, yo, Drake is the coolest guy on earth.

[C]

I think if I ever said that, it would have been partly tongue in cheek, but not, not, not sincere. Okay, I. First of all, I think there are people who have been a fan of that. That phantom has aged even more poorly than Drake. So I think that, like, I don. Regret that.

[B]

Used to love the Apprentice.

[C]

Yeah, totally, dude.

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It was a good show. It was a popular show in America.

[C]

Reality TV is something that. Because of my relationship with Jenna, we've been dating for a long time. We've been together for a long time. So that's a newer development. But, like, the Apprentice is not one that I ever watch when it's on. And it's not one that I would ever go back and revisit even because. Not even as protest. No kings. No. No reality show hosts.

[B]

Damn. I just had a weird memory pop up where I forget what the setting was at. I think it was like at a dinner. I was at a dinner with my parents, like, and their friends, and the Apprentice was like a thing back then. This is like, high school era. And I think I said, like, they were like, oh, I love the Apprentice. I want to, like, some fret. Some kid of the friends were like, I want to. I hope we're back in time so I can watch the Apprentice. I was like, the Apprentice sucks, bro. And I was like. I said, donald Trump is a scumbag.

[C]

You were right.

[B]

And. And my dad goes, don't you. This is like the last time he probably yelled at me as like a teenager. He's like, don't you ever. He's like, don't you ever say that. I'm like, what? Scumbag? He's. And he's like, that's the disgusting term. And I'm like, scum. Like, he's a bag of scum. And I don't know if it's a generational thing, but he basically was like, no, it's like something you jerk off into.

[C]

Well, it's funny you say that. And it definitely is generational. My dad has the same aversion to scumbag, and I have a similar almost where. Yes. And I thought it was. Or also douchebag.

[B]

Well, douchebag is different. Douchebag is a real thing.

[C]

Yeah, I understand that. I'm just saying that I think it's like a term that maybe a generation views as profane or disgusting in a way, so. Yeah, I know, I know.

[B]

Oh. Oh. See, here's it. The term originated in the 1960s 70s, potentially derived from a coarse slang term for a used condom.

[C]

Wow. A scumbag. That's actually fire.

[B]

Yo, you bag a come.

[C]

Damn.

[B]

But also, it's scum. It's not come. Right.

[C]

Yo, that guy's a real comeback. Let's start that one, guys.

[B]

Yeah, that is.

[C]

Anyway, that is very funny. Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying.

[B]

But okay, before we get into. You don't have to the post game with the homie that we both have friend crushes on. If not, we're already friends with. Let's get into fit Check. Lawrence.

[C]

Okay. I am wearing scumbag fit. Yeah, Scum. Scum come fits only, dude. The boots are second layer Rider boots. The socks are the Palace CK1. Nice socks from that collab.

[B]

Get a little. Get a little old up there for socks.

[C]

No, I don't wear them a lot, so they hold up just fine. It's a complete lie. You're right. They need to be thrown out.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Just coming up on laundry that. You nailed that. God damn it. I cannot tell a lie.

[B]

The except when you do and then immediately course corrected. Yeah, so it's so I can't tell a lie, but I have to immediately confess.

[C]

It's actually I'm addicted to lying and then confessing. Believe. That's just a glove.

[B]

The confessing feels so good.

[C]

Yeah, it's basically glutton for punishment. The pants are vintage Carhartt. The beater that you can see because my is a Cortez beater because my rear quarter zip is zipped all the way up the hat.

[B]

I saw them like GQs like how to dress now for like Midtown Tech bros.

[C]

So shout out to Samir homie, who's in that shoot. But I was looking at that being like well one. One fit is all Celine. And I was like okay. Money must have been nice. I mean also Celine doesn't need to pay anyone. So like who knows. But I was like okay. But yeah, the rear quarter zip. Despite having it and unlike you keeping it and wearing it and making get my. Not just getting my money's worth but like actually you've gotten.

[B]

You've got to wear out of it. The CPW has plummeted.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

I was not plummeted, but it's kind of down headed this way.

[C]

We both got it for not a song, but at least a tune. I got it for a tune. What do you get it for? I got, I got it. It wasn't on sale but I. I found the ch A cheap stockist. I couldn't even tell you like a store you order from one time just to get one thing because you googled it. So like it was che. It was cheapish for retail. Not on sale. And then that. So it might have been. I mean this is embarrassing.

[B]

5 and change pre tariffs.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean not. You got it like straight on sale.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Mine was just Trebian sale. I think it was like 600. Really tax and stuff. I think so maybe 400.

[C]

That the 600 was at the 400.

[B]

600.

[C]

I think it's retail. 598. Or at least it was. I don't know why I. Dude, I was shocked to see them like put rear like a quarter zip in the breakdown.

[B]

The.

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The fit recommendation, the wardrobe recommendation, whatever you want to call that story. The serviceable story. And then the fact that it was rear. I was like okay, yeah. I mean like this is a little two years ago at this point. You know I hold GQ in higher esteem maybe. But again this is coming from somebody

[B]

wearing the garments.687 down from $764.

[C]

Wait, on sale?

[B]

Yeah, well there's just 10 off.

[C]

There's so many of them now. I feel like. Right. They mix because it was a hot thing that was like selling out and then now it's like a thing that's established. Hence why I guess it's in the

[B]

gym, but you didn't like the fit that had the rear half. Zip is like the Midtown tech bro.

[C]

Whoa. I don't even remember what he's wearing under it.

[A]

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