*PATREON PREVIEW* The Social Contract

Summary

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Throwing Fits — PATREON PREVIEW The Social Contract

Episode Date: February 11, 2026
Hosts: Jimmy & Larry

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Episode Overview

In this midweek "boys only" Patreon preview, Jimmy and Larry riff on punctuality, the social dynamics of arriving early or late, personal routines, New York Fashion Week, and intertwine the conversation with their customary fit check. The recurring thread is the "social contract" in friendships and contemporary social life, riffing humorously but sharply on the small etiquette rules and faux pas that shape grown-up relationships among city guys. They sprinkle in notes on their own habits, career moments, and upcoming events, all with their typical blend of sardonic irreverence and genuine insight.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Etiquette of Punctuality

• Hugo Mendoza's Tardiness:
  The hosts recount a recent recording session with Hugo Mendoza (Brand Director, Awake NY), who arrived significantly late—setting off a chain of reflections about lateness, expectations, and personalities.
  • Quote: Jimmy: "He pushes to 4pm...I was already on the train, so that kind of sucked." (01:50)
  • Quote: Larry: “I kind of expect a little bit of rapper time…he's a mover and a shaker and he's clouded, and he presumably has better things to do.” (02:07)
• Early vs. Late:
  Jimmy and Larry debate whether being early is truly better than being late for social gatherings, digging into personal perspectives and how it impacts host-guest dynamics.
  • Quote: Jimmy: “If you show up at 7:45, I’m like, I'm not ready.” (02:41)
  • Quote: Larry: “You have to give grace…if you have a friend who's commuting…you can be early.” (02:53)
• The ‘Larry-ism’ of Solo Pre-Drinks:
  Larry describes his habit of arriving early to bars to have a drink solo, with Jimmy teasing him about its necessity:
  • Quote: Larry: “Did I ever advocate for that strategy? Because I don't need the social lubricant..." (03:11)
  • Quote: Jimmy: "It was a well-known Larry-ism." (03:24)

2. The Social Contract

• The hosts joke about how both early and late arrivals can disrupt the social "contract," highlighting a shared understanding of boundaries and expectations among friends:
  • Quote: Jimmy: "Being late is the obvious infraction of that…showing up early, it’s like, bro, you’re also not on time." (04:14)
  • Quote: Larry: “Early, definitely better than late. But early, not necessarily.” (04:25)

3. Podcasting Mishaps & Lost Files

• A near-disaster unfolds when the hosts almost forget to start recording a recent guest, resulting in a short “lost file” segment mostly involving watch talk.
  • Quote: Larry: "Imagine it was...And thank God it's Hugo, and thank God, honestly, credit to you that you noticed it within 5 to 10 minutes." (04:50)
  • Quote: Jimmy: “Thank God the Lost files only contain talking about watches.” (05:25)

4. Fashion Week & Relationship Logistics

• NYFW as a “Joke”:
  Larry is characteristically dismissive of New York Fashion Week, but points to one show (Echo Slato) as unmissable and discusses coordinating Valentine's Day plans around it.
  • Quote: Larry: "New York Fashion Week is a fucking joke. I say it every year and nothing changes." (08:14)
  • Quote: Jimmy (joking): “That’s where Trump's…go bomb over there.” (08:33)
• Valentine’s and "Double Dipping":
  Playful suggestions about doubling relationship celebrations with work events, with Larry joking about making plans with his partner Jenna:
  • Quote: Larry: "I'll tell Jenna to meet me somewhere. And I'll already be dressed..." (09:53)
  • Quote: Jimmy: "Your birthday. We’re going to Paris Fashion Week. For Valentine’s, we're going to a fashion week." (09:01)

5. Brand & Scene Shoutouts

• Echo Slato & Queer Downtown Space:
  Larry praises Echo Slato's show as a vital event, giving props to the brand and its importance in their social/fashion scene:
  • Quote: Larry: “It’s a brand that...has a lot going on...even in a space I don’t think Throwing Fits occupies in terms of queer downtown spaces.” (09:12)

6. Personal Style & Fit Checks (07:06, 10:08)

• Larry’s Outfit (07:06):

  • Second Layer Rider boots
  • Reese’s socks
  • Egg House Lotta double knee jeans
  • OG Mildred F&F tee (“Shout out our friends in Mildred, best barbershop for white people and others in Manhattan.” (07:19))
  • Scott Fraser Collection sweater
  • Bootleg Aprese hat (Ventspace)
  • Thistles sunglasses
  • Skims underwear
  • Big “teddy bear” reversible shearling coat (“Big Bane coat. Yes. Beautiful piece of Swedish coterie.” (07:45))

• Jimmy’s Outfit (10:08):

  • Rear Salomon 3x124
  • Nike Drifty socks
  • MF Pen Acid Wash denims
  • Our Legacy box T-shirt
  • Oralee flannel (“Feels soft — I thought it was wool cashmere. It’s wool.” (10:27))

• They riff on fabric details and recent shopping experiences, praising Our Legacy’s quality:

  • Quote: Larry: “I'm feeling this coat...It’s softer than anything I’ve ever felt. They're just—the best at that, you know?” (10:41)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "I kind of expect a little bit of rapper time…he's a mover and a shaker and he's clouded, and he presumably has better things to do."
  — Larry (02:07)

• "If you show up at 7:45, I’m like, I'm not ready."
  — Jimmy (02:41)

• "Did I ever advocate for that strategy? Because I don't need the social lubricant..."
  — Larry (03:11)

• "Being late is the obvious infraction of that…showing up early, it’s like, bro, you’re also not on time."
  — Jimmy (04:14)

• "New York Fashion Week is a fucking joke. I say it every year and nothing changes."
  — Larry (08:14)

• “It’s a brand that...has a lot going on...even in a space I don’t think Throwing Fits occupies in terms of queer downtown spaces.”
  — Larry (09:12)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:00–01:30: (Skipped ads)
• 01:31: Episode opens, banter about Hugo Mendoza’s lateness
• 02:07: Lateness and New York’s “mover and shaker” culture
• 02:41: Early vs. late—arrival etiquette
• 03:11: Larry’s solo pre-game habits
• 04:14: The “social contract” around punctuality
• 04:46: Podcasting mishaps—recording error & lost watch talk
• 07:06: Larry’s fit check
• 08:06: Echo Slato’s NYFW show & Valentine’s Day coordination
• 09:12: Echo Slato in queer downtown scenes
• 10:08: Jimmy’s fit check and praise for Our Legacy

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Tone & Style Notes

Jimmy and Larry keep the tone snarky yet candid, blending arch social commentary with self-deprecating humor: calling out their own quirks as much as the city's, poking at fashion’s absurdities, but always coming back to real camaraderie.

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This summary captures the hosts’ organic, loose riffing style and the episode’s focus on the unsaid rules of “grown up” socializing—perfect for listeners curious about city life etiquette, fashion insider banter, and unfiltered friendship.

Transcript

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[Jimmy]

Throw gang.

[Larry]

Are.

[Jimmy]

Are we recording?

[Larry]

Confirmed. Recording.

[Jimmy]

Welcome to another midweek, boys only around with Jimmy and Larry after a wonderful kind of late podcast with Hugo Mendoza.

[Larry]

He was pretty late.

[Jimmy]

The brand director of Wake New York.

[Larry]

He was late, but like an hour late.

[Jimmy]

45 minutes. He pushes to 4pm Look.

[Larry]

Yeah, I know. That's fine. When you had texted me that he pushed the four, I was already on the train, so that kind of sucked. So that's just on me. That's like a personal problem. But, yeah, I mean, listen, it's Hugo. I. I kind of expect a little bit of rapper time.

[Jimmy]

Why is that?

[Larry]

Because he's a mover and a shaker and he's clouded, and he presumably has better things to do. That's what I mean.

[Jimmy]

Directing brands, bro.

[Larry]

Like, you're talking to the former brand director of Grail. I'm. I'm aware of the position.

[Jimmy]

You're also not a punctual guy because you're always early.

[Larry]

Oh, well, you know what Tom Coughlin used to say with the Giants, okay.

[Jimmy]

We'Re not playing foot. We're not playing mediocre football here, bro.

[Larry]

First of all, that's a two time super bowl champion head coach.

[Jimmy]

We got lucky.

[Larry]

I. So is that bad being too early? Like, let's talk about that. That's interesting. Depends.

[Jimmy]

I think it depends. And not to be a stickler for the rules here, it's like if I'm like, yo, show up. Hey, come, come over at, come over to my place at 8:00pm no, that if you show up at 7:45, I'm like, I'm not ready.

[Larry]

Like, no, no, that's. And I. You obviously have to give grace for like, if you have a friend who's like commuting and they like, you know, they're driving in and they're making this big effort to come to you and see you, you can be early.

[Jimmy]

But now that you're on your good boy, are you still doing the thing where you show up early to the bar so you can have one before the session starts?

[Larry]

Seems like you answered your own question there. No, I'm not doing that. But, but that was. Well, first of all, did I ever like advocate for that strategy? Because I don't need like the social lubricant. So that's like, you know, I think.

[Jimmy]

It'S, it's a well known. It was a well known Larry ism.

[Larry]

Well, I, I will say that if you were like going somewhere, maybe this is in line with what you're saying. But if you're going somewhere and you happen to be early, just having a drink alone to pass the time.

[Jimmy]

See barking.

[Larry]

Would you look at that?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I'm never one for the early man.

[Larry]

Yeah, I'm early, I'm early. I just.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, come on.

[Larry]

I was, I was. And I was so early. I had eight beers. Yeah, I mean, listen, to each his own.

[Podcast Host]

I.

[Larry]

And I'm. Here's the thing. Even if I'm in my good boy era, or depending on how far the last, I'll never judge anyone that, you know, is doing their own thing.

[Jimmy]

I think I know showing up early, I think it's like, all right, if you agree on a set upon time, it's like, yeah, being late is the obvious infraction of that. Like social, you know, what's the word?

[Larry]

Decorum.

[Jimmy]

Decorum.

[Larry]

Social. The social contract.

[Jimmy]

The social contract. But showing up early, it's like, bro, you're also not on time. Like you're, you're early. Early. Definitely better than late. But early. Not necessarily.

[Larry]

No, totally good. I mean, listen, with the show, when I'm coming to our office and I'm, you know, rearranging it for a guest. Even though that takes like one minute. I like to then said sit down, settle in and basically, you know, you know, mind my p's and Q's so that I can forget to hit record when it's actually time to. Yeah. When it comes to the showdown.

[Jimmy]

When it comes to the.

[Larry]

I won't be there.

[Jimmy]

When it comes to hitting the big red button. Lawrence didn't do it.

[Larry]

I was at a practice. Yo. Imagine it was. And thank God it's Hugo. And thank God, honestly, credit to you that you noticed it within 5 to 10 minutes.

[Jimmy]

11 minutes.

[Larry]

How do you know?

[Jimmy]

Because I looked down and saw it. But I said, oh, thank christ. It's only 11 minutes.

[Larry]

Oh, okay. Because there's. The timer wasn't running. It was just at zero.

[Jimmy]

Oh wait, you're right. How did I know that?

[Larry]

You might have looked at your computer or something like that. Or you're maybe the.

[Jimmy]

When I stopped the.

[Larry]

Oh sure. Yeah. Which is funny because we have. I mean you don't want to start off the episode with we just have the audio from the camera. But there is like the. The Lost files.

[Jimmy]

Thank God the Lost files only contains talking about watches.

[Larry]

So it was a lot of like watch talk. Which are like a. A lot of like. Yeah, Scar has the most fun with his watches.

[Jimmy]

Watch talking.

[Larry]

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[Jimmy]

No, Mr. Fantastic, the featured rapper with MF Doom. Chuck. That's the background music.

[Larry]

Mr. Fantastic was also like Elastic. I'm thinking of Mr. Wonderful is obviously Kevin O' Leary. And then yeah, Mr. Enthusiast. He's the guy that wears the dumb fun socks.

[Jimmy]

His great hair.

[Larry]

Great hair. And he's rich, so that's cool.

[Jimmy]

He's a fantastic. Long dough like elastic.

[Larry]

Go off.

[Jimmy]

Jimbo, what are you wearing?

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[Larry]

Okay, I'm wearing second layer Rider boots. Rider boots, man. Reese's socks. Egg house lotta double knee jeans. The tee is the OG Mildred friends and family tee.

[Jimmy]

Oh, nice.

[Larry]

Shout out our friends in Mildred best barbershop for white people and others in Manhattan. The sweater is Scott Fraser collection. The hat is bootleg aprese courtesy of ventspace. And the sungl glasses were our thistles. And the underwear is skims coat. Oh, and the coat is my big teddy bear reversible shearling that I never. A big bane coat. Yes.

[Jimmy]

A big beautiful piece of American of Swedish coterie.

[Larry]

They expect one of us in the shearling, brother. That's Gant. That was like. It was a beautiful piece of Swedish coterie. It was. Yeah, it was a. It was a gift from Mr. Bastin.

[Jimmy]

Friend of the show and fellow home cook. Oh, let me ask you. Echoslato.

[Larry]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

New York Fashion Week.

[Larry]

Yes.

[Jimmy]

Valentine's Day show.

[Larry]

Yes.

[Jimmy]

What you gonna do when the fashion show comes down to you, brother.

[Larry]

I. I will. Well, first of all, New York Fashion Week is a fucking joke. And I say it every year and nothing changes but the one yo.

[Jimmy]

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[Larry]

Milk Studios.

[Jimmy]

Milks. That doesn't exist anymore, does it?

[Larry]

I don't know, actually.

[Jimmy]

Also, it doesn't matter where Fashion Week is happening. That's where Trump's is go bomb over there.

[Larry]

I think that the Valentine's Day plans that I will make with Jenna, even if we are like on the early side when it comes to our reservations, we'll be probably doing that, I don't know, fucking 5:36 or.

[Podcast Host]

Or.

[Larry]

Because the show's in the afternoon. Correct.

[Jimmy]

I don't know. Or.

[Larry]

But it's the one can't miss, was my point.

[Jimmy]

What do you do?

[Larry]

Is your.

[Jimmy]

You pull a Larry Jenna birthday Paris Fashion Week, babe.

[Larry]

For your birthday double dip.

[Jimmy]

Your birthday. We're going to Paris Fashion Week for Valentine's Day. We're going to a fashion week.

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[Jimmy]

At the back of my head for the next 30 minutes.

[Larry]

That's the, that's the only. That's the only can't miss. And it is a brand that. Shout out Mike and Zoe, friends of the show. I love that brand. It's maybe like. Yeah. I mean, it's more than just menswear, obviously. They have a lot going on and in there even, I think in a space that. I don't think that I would even think that Throne Fits occupies in terms of queer downtown spaces.

[Jimmy]

Speak for yourself.

[Larry]

Honestly. You know what? You're right. But no, that's a can't miss. I will absolutely be there. And I'm looking forward to it as I look forward.

[Jimmy]

5:00Pm oh, fuck.

[Larry]

Well, here's the thing. Don't say the address. Presumably downtown. Or do we even have the. It'll be downtown. So I'll tell Jenna to meet me somewhere.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Larry]

And I. And I'll already be dressed to the.

[Jimmy]

And she'll be early.

[Larry]

I. Yeah. And she'll be reading at the bar, having Kindle, having. Having to drink on her on her own and. And enjoying every second of the time spent without me. Yeah. Undubitably.

[Jimmy]

The best.

[Larry]

What did you wear today, Jim?

[Jimmy]

I'm wearing rear Salman 3x124 or whatever. The Nike Drifty socks. MF Pen Acid Wash denims. Our legacy box T shirt. Orally flannel. Feel soft. This is.

[Larry]

I felt it before. It's a wool. It's insane.

[Jimmy]

I thought this was a wool cashmere. It's wool.

[Larry]

They have a. I tried on at the MI recently at Paris Fashion Week, I tried on a. An amazing overcoat that's like. It's perfect. Kind of similar to the styling. That size five. Hugo's is.

[Podcast Host]

No.

[Larry]

Size four, because I'm. Oh, you're a size five. But I'm feeling this fat. It's 100% wool, so I'm feeling this coat. I'm like, this has got to be cashmere. If not a cat or a cashmere wool blend, not just straight up, like beautifully brushed wool. It's like. It's softer than anything I've ever felt. They're just. They're the best at that. You know, Straight up W. Straight up wool. B. Yeah.

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