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Our guest this week is fresh out the studio and ready to play. He's got the sauce like ketchup and graciously took some time off from crafting generational anthems, balladiering, sold out arenas and getting Pokemon tattoos to rip a pod with the goddamn motherfucking boys before he sets off on a quest to win his fifth Grammy with his brand new album. And maybe then he'll finally buy the Batman suit with nipples. Joining us to talk about his party animal days, Taylor Swift wedding gifts and fellow goated gingers, Ed Sheeran. Ed, how the hell are you?
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What's going on? I actually do have the Batman suit with nipples.
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You got it.
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Wow.
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Congratulations.
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Yeah, but I bought Robin. No one wanted Robin. I got Robin for steel.
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What was the damage on the Batman suit?
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That it was high six figures.
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Wow.
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How pronounced are the nipples in real life?
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They're not high six figures. The other one low six.
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Low six figures?
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No, high five figures.
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Oh, that's.
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That's a deal.
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That's light work how? Like protrusion. What type of protrusion are we talking about?
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It comes in quite. It comes in like a George Clooney like mannequin. I guess that some. It's kind of weird you haven't tried it on. George Clooney is a bit bigger than me. I'm like. I'm quite a short human being in life. I've tried the hook Costume on.
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Okay, we're going to talk about that.
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Do you.
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Are you boys with George? Like, could you send him a photo of like, you know, the student George?
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I was like, who the fuck's George?
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Mr. Clooney.
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Yeah.
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Have I met him? There was a period of my life where, like, I was mostly drunk and yeah, I like, meet people and I'm like, oh, nice to meet you. And they're like, we've hung out before.
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Oh, that's a bad look, dude.
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So I might have. I might have hung out with him.
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It's possible the world may never. We'll ask George the next time we see him and confirm it or deny it.
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Drunk off the tequila. All right, well, welcome to the pod, Ed Sheeran. Yeah, the first thing we do.
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First thing we want to do, Ed, real quick because we know you're a busy man. The sulfo fit check. What did you wear today to the podcast? Tell us everything.
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I've done a kid super collab that we've done a drop today. So I'm. I'm actually wearing a kid.
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A company man.
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Kids super.
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How do you link up with. With kids super cold call.
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We did something for the. I'd released an album in 2019 and we did a T shirt for that. This was when he had, I guess was like, maybe he was like two or three years into like printing T shirts. But we did a really cool T shirt design for my collaborations project and I guess just kept in touch. And the whole premise of the album, I think fits in with his ethos of his brand and business. Yeah. And it just felt like a natural thing. And then I have some Tom Ford cargoes. Fancy boy.
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Sexy.
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And then some cactus Jacks jump what they call Jackman's.
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Something like that.
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Cactus Jack.
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You're the sneaker guy. You're supposed to tell us, dog.
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It says it on the bottom.
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Jack is Jack.
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Jack boy.
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Yeah, he's got the Jack boys on.
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Yeah, I know their Cactus Jack. Yes.
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What about the socks?
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The socks I do. You know what I love? Just like really box fresh Calvin Klein underwear. Calvin Klein socks. And I just have loads of them.
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One wear and you throw it away.
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No. Hell, that's weird.
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That's rapper.
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That's like weird.
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That's like. I think Birdman does that.
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Fat Joe with the forces.
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Yeah, mate. Air Force now. Well, you know what? They do get dirty quite easy.
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That's what I'm saying, man.
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Yeah. I just feel like you should just wear beat up air forces and just have one pair. That's your wedding suit. One that you just. Okay, you know, dipping it out.
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A lot of white girls do that in New York so I think you're on the same page there with them.
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You know what? Now I'm in New York. Need to get some tims.
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Yes you do.
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Some yutas, yas butters.
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Yutters.
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Yeah, the wheat. The wheat. The classic ones.
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Yeah.
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You know you're gonna learn a lot.
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Could have just said the classic ones. Yeah.
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You're gonna learn a lot from us.
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Whether you like dead ass. Dead ass be.
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Yeah.
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And that's all the Calvin panties too.
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Yeah.
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Is that what rocking?
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Yeah. Okay, let's see.
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I mean there he is.
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Anyone.
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Those are clean.
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Anyone that calls them panties? I gotta kind of side eye, you know, I mean.
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Well, in the UK they're pants, right?
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Knickers pants.
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No, we just call them boxers like the rest of the world.
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But their boxer briefs are boxers.
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Boxers. Yeah.
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Oh, interesting. I might have to add you to a very esteemed list of boxers.
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I went back to London and started calling them panty.
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You should. That's a dog.
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What about, what about the hardware? The ring? Is that the only jewelry we're rocking with the watch?
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I've got an IWC ingenu.
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Very nice.
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I've got these rings. My wife made me this one and this is my wedding ring. And then this is called a clatter ring which is sort of like Irish tradition.
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It's the heart, right? If you're locked in.
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Yeah. And it's got my wife's birthstone and my two daughters birth signs.
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Beautiful.
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And then what else have I got? I've got. Oh, there's this necklace. So my. When my kids go to the beach when we're on holiday they find shells and so this has lots of shells that we've cast in silver. Beautiful. And then some bracelets, a crayon bracelet by my friend Nadine and that are.
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A functional crayon bracelet. Or is that just.
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It's not that functional. No, I actually can't take it off. It's like. It's like beeps on the machine.
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Those are like the new thing. Like Yachty has a bunch of those too. Like that's like the new.
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That's exact. It's exactly the same. Exactly the same brand. Yeah. I sat next to her at a wed. Wedding and I was like I love your bracelets. And yeah, take one for you. They're like all custom done because they're made out of white gold. So they had. They take a while to make but yeah, she came to my show in. In Zurich. Super cool.
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All right, let's get to the meat and pitos. Oh, and you're sipping on some pure H2O.
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Yeah. Sizz up.
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Yeah, the. The lean comes later tonight on that. It is. Because it is the eve of your album release. Do you still get nervous on release night?
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I actually, you know, I was in the car on the way over here and I've never felt so settled on release night. I was just kind of like, I was driving and I think it's stuff like. Because I was doing, like, the kids super thing and I've got this tick tock gig at the weekend and blah. Everything just feels locked in and cool. And I. I was like, I don't know what I would be worrying about. Everything feels good, so whatever happens, happens. But it feels good, so I feel like that's all you should care about.
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This is the first time you felt that way on the eve of a project coming out.
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Yeah. Well, do you know what? I feel like every album I've released up to now is almost the most important thing in my life. And this one isn't. Doesn't. It isn't like. It, like, it is a really important thing within my life, but it's not the most important thing in my life. It, like. It's like a. It's a side piece.
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Yeah. The most important thing is your watch. It's your watch collection. Yeah. Nah, you're also busy being a fucking dad. I'm sure that takes some pressure off your.
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I mean, that's the thing. Family. I mean, I'm. Yeah, I'm enjoying that a lot at the moment. I feel like. I love just talking to you about juggling everything. And what I love about this album rollout is fitting it all in with normality. Yeah. I literally. But 10 minutes ago, had my daughter on my shoulders walking in a park and then I got in a car and came here.
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Now you were two fucking lads. Talking clothes.
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No, but as soon as this podcast ends, I go back. I've got time to feed him dinner, put them to bed, read him a story, and then I'll go to the kids. Super. Shoot it all. Like, it's good. It all fits in.
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You have your priorities in order.
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Are you. Are you the chef in the household?
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I try to do my bit. Yeah. I'd say that I'm more of the breakfast chef.
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Full English, full fry up.
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Fry up.
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I'd have fat kids if I did that. No, is America. No, we do my. My daughter's Celiac. So we do a lot of like gluten free pancakes and shit like that. But my wife is like, she grew up cooking and growing stuff in the garden. Like her dad like loves like growing, so she grows a lot of stuff. And I grew up vegetarian in the 90s, which just meant like really, really dry burgers. Yeah. So my, like my culinary taste is different to my wife's.
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What does your gourmand wife think of your fucking obsession with ketchup?
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Well, I think the ketchup thing stems from shit dry burgers. When you're a kid and you, you know, you're eating a veggie burger. That said like honestly, 90s era veggie.
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Burgers, the pucks of 2020 kids who.
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Are veggie do not know how good they've got it. Veggie food in the 90s sucked. Yeah.
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They found a way to make British food worse.
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What is it with like Americans not liking British food? It's.
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I think, I think it's everyone.
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Well, I love beans.
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Have you seen your chickens? Like be honest.
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Yeah, they look like John, bro. Dude, they look like Johnson injected for your pleasure.
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Dude. I like, I remember coming out, I hadn't really had chicken wings and I toured here for like two week, two years and I had all these chicken wings and I loved them. And then I went home and ordered chicken wings. I was like, they were like pigeon normal chicken. Yeah.
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Do you put ketchup on your steak?
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Yeah. Oh yeah. That was what the ketchup advert was, was me putting ketchup on my steak.
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But that stems from a real thing that you do.
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Yeah, why wouldn't you?
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Because it's. If the steak is cooked as it should be, you don't need any.
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Yeah, but why ketchup? But why? What's like what.
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I guess you're edge here and you can do whatever the fuck.
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Yeah.
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No, but what's. What's to say like that there's so many. You offered me cold coffee earlier.
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Why is cold coffee blowing your brain away, bro?
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Well, if you have coffee and you make it and you leave it and it turns cold, I under. That's normal. Like that's. That's normal.
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I'm talking about cold brew.
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Yeah, but I'm. You're talking about ketchup on a steak and I'm like, I'm like, that's not that weird. And I feel like cold brew coffee is.
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Ketchup on steak is like putting a bumper sticker on a Lambo.
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Damn.
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Got your ass.
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No, it's not. Have you been to Wetherspoons in England?
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No.
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Like, so, no.
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The steak there, if you ate it with ketchup, it tastes great. Like, you're not.
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Is it a burger steak or is it like a. It's not a real rib eye, right? Like, come on.
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I mean, they say it is.
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Okay, all right, what's okay? What's the most, like, crazy thing even you have to admit is crazy?
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That you put ketchup on pizza. But it's like, dude, wait, wait. Not New York. New York pizza is different to kebab shop pizza.
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Okay?
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Kebab shot pizza is kind of akin to Papa John's, Domino's Pizza Hut. Kind of cakey.
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But there's tomato sauce on the pizza. Yeah, I know, but you want that sweet, sweet slop.
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Yeah. I don't know. I. I'm not the only one of my friends that does this, by the way. I'm like, like, shout out Fred. Fred is a big ketchup guy.
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So you're putting it all on Fred? You and Fred?
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That's what me and Fred, like, Fred came on tour with me for a while, and me and him, we, like, there were some meals we refused to eat because they didn't really. Ketchup.
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How much ketchup bottles you run through a month? There's a ketchup podcast.
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Yeah, not that much, you know, since I, I, I did that deal with Heinz and then he made a hot sauce together, which is kind of like spicy ketchup. So I'd say I use that more because it's good.
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I mean, that's cool.
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It's got a bit of kick.
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Okay.
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Yeah. I kind of feel like if you have a product, it has to be something you really with. Yeah.
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I have one last ketchup question, then.
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We can move on.
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Do you keep it in the fridge or is it in the pantry?
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That's interesting. Can I tell you the truth?
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Yes, please.
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That's why we're asking.
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I'll go one in each, brother.
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Wow.
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Dude, Rockstar.
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If we're in your bathroom and we open up your medicine cabinet, there's our ketchup in there. Just. You brush your teeth with that?
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I'm not li. I'm not lying. When I did the advert, they sent me a lifetime supply, and we have loads of it.
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Wait, so it's a lifetime supply you receive all at once or you like.
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Hey, I need some catch. You just. You just re up. Just re up.
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Hit the ketchup plug.
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Keep your money. Give me some bottles.
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Last ketchup question. Would you rather give making music or give up ketchup?
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Yeah, give up ketchup. I've started having mayonnaise with fries. Whoa, that's weird. No, I like that that's weird, but I. With it. Yeah.
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Is this just you angling for another lifetime supply of a condiment?
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Mustard up next.
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Yo, Hellman.
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Helmet is kind of weird if you think about it. Like, it works with fries, but it's. It's a bit. It's a bit.
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Sandwiches.
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Yeah. BLTS.
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BLTs.
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I could with it in a BLT, but, yeah. I don't know. What. What else in Banh Mi? What?
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It's Vietnamese sandwich. Banh Mi.
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Is it good? Yeah.
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Dude, you never had a banh Mi?
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Yo, have you. Have you eaten lunch today? We're close to Chinatown. We're close to one of the best.
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Actually eating two lunches. Steaks. I had to do a pizza review. I ate lunch and then went to the pizza review, forgetting that I was doing it.
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Was it with Dave Portnoy?
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No, Caleb Simpson. Caleb Simpson? Yeah.
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Oh, the comedian.
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No, no, that's Caleb Presley.
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That's Barstool. Shout out Caleb.
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Yeah.
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All right, let's get off. Let's talk about this album that's dropping tonight.
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Can we eat it with ketchup? That's.
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From what we've heard so far, the album is going to have some Persian and Indian influences. What made you decide to dip your toe into these genres?
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The producers that I was working with on the record were Indian and Persian, and they were primarily pop producers. Like, they did that. Most of the big Ariana Grande songs that you would know were both these guys working together. And when I was working with them, we started making pop songs akin to that. Yeah. And then I guess it was just, I don't know, like a natural conversation of just like, what music did you grow up listening to? And they were like this. And then we sort of segued into that.
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Have you heard that stuff before? Like, were you familiar?
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Definitely Indian music, because I tour India all the time. But Persian. Persian music was new to me. And it's a world that is, like, so fun and, like, upbeat, and I love. I love it. Like, I love the process of making that song, releasing that song, doing the videos for that song. And also, like. I mean, New York is full of, like, a Persian community. Everywhere I go, I bump into someone Persian. He's just like, azizam. I love that. Yeah.
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Is it like a contemporary Persian or more like.
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I don't know. I'd say, yeah, it's definitely contemporary beat of it, but it's very. Very Iranian folk fusion, I think.
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Have you ever thought about going back to rapping?
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Yeah, dude. Yeah. I mean, I do on the album. Have you listened to the album?
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We just got it. Just got it 10 minutes before you got here. So, you know, blame your people.
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On the first track. There's a rap and then. Yeah, there's.
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Yeah, bars.
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Yeah, bars. I do it every. I do it every now and then. It doesn't get as much, like, coverage, I guess. Like, my friend Jamal passed away, like, three years ago, and I did a letter to him, which was like a long rap, which probably, like, the most proud songwriting that I've done. And no one listens to it really. Like, it's. Yeah, people. I like rapping, and it's something that I love doing, but people primarily want me for ballads. They don't. They don't want to hear me bar out on a mic.
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How do you balance that? Where you're like, I know what the people want, but I know that this is what I enjoy, and this is what. Especially, like, you know, that letter to your friend, like, that's important to me, but it's gonna brick on the streams. Like, how do you. How do you balance that? Just creatively.
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I don't think you should ever do anything to, like, appease people. But I'm definitely aware. I write a lot of songs. I'm definitely aware how to balance an album with songs that I've written. So I would do, like, three or four rap tunes. Three or four pop tunes.
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One for you, one for me.
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Yeah, maybe like three or four really gentle ballads and you can kind of like. That's usually my rule of thumb with records.
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What if you, like, start, like, a rap alter ego and then you could sign with your boy Clinton? You started a record label?
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Yeah. Yeah, because that's a good idea.
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I think it's a great. I think it's a great idea.
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Well, as a guy who makes music that the hoes seem to love, what advice would you give someone who.
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Do you use that in your general everyday vernacular?
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Hello, Hoes.
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Yes.
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Yeah, for sure, dude.
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Shout out the hoes.
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I say huzz because I'm, you know, a cool Gen Z.
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We're young, dude.
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Gen Z. No. Oh, I'm gonna say.
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What was Gen X?
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I think we're older than you, dude.
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Yeah.
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How old are you guys?
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39, 38, right?
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Not that much. I'm 34.
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Seems same.
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You probably would have, like, Been friends with my brother at school and we would.
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We were actually.
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Were you.
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He set it up. That's why you're here. Yeah, shout out your brother.
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Yeah, shout out Massey.
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He said asmod Kerchup.
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Yeah.
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What advice would you give to someone?
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He's another ketchup thing. He's still. He is vegan now. He's not even. He. I talk to him all the time and he's just like chuffed about vegan choices in restaurants. There's. We used to go to restaurants and be veg and be like, is there a veggie option? They'd be like, bread, yeah.
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Hummus?
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Yeah.
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French fries.
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That's not even that bread.
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When did you switch back to the dark side?
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My grandmother gave me a bacon sandwich when I was 13.
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I'll do it.
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They'll do it. And I'd never had it before and I just remember being like, this is great. And it was so. It was so limiting to my life back then. Like, you go around friends houses and like not, not eat dinner because there wasn't, you know. So my brother stuck with it and I didn't stick with it. I turned back veggie for maybe like three years in my 20s. Okay. But that was more of a like health thing. I was like, I just want to be healthier. I drunk a lot of beer and just wanted to balance it. Right.
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I mean, you. You've cleaned up your diet.
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Yeah.
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Right. But like, what. What's the food you missed the most from your big fat party animal days?
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Kebabs. Oh, yeah, yeah.
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The late. The late night when you were like three. The three star.
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Not even that these faced. Like, I like when I lived on my own pre dating my wife, I'd literally like get. I'd be hungry. I wake up hungover. I get in my mini. I'd literally ring up the kebab shop, be like, you know, sheesh, Garlic wrap. And then it would take five minutes to drive there. As I get there, the wrap be there, I'd get it. And that would be like two meals a day, door to door service. I mean, every day. We don't have. We don't have like ubereats or delivery or anything where, where I live. Like, I love people coming to my house and trying to get an Uber because it just, it just doesn't happen. I have a mate that like walks to the bottom of my drive to try and find girls once and it'. You're in a fucking village with 40 people, bro. That's not.
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Yeah, keep it pushing was kebabs. Okay. Besides being that if that's the hangover foodie choice, what was like the late night, drunk food, walking home food of choice. Was it also a kebab?
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I reckon, like, second kebab. Yeah. It's just kebab shops in Britain are just like a plethora of awesomeness. Like, you can go in there and get nuggets of fish and chips, pizza. Yeah, anything. Burgers, anything. Mate, there's a kebab shop in place called Worcester. I don't even know if it's open, but it was a. It was an off license as well. So you could buy like, oh, hard liquor and that's incredible. Yeah, Everything you need, everything.
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The problem and the solution in one spot.
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I don't know if it's open. Like, I remember going there when I was like 16, being like, I don't know if this is a good idea.
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I might never. I might never leave. Yeah, I mean, you've, you know, those days are slightly behind you. Are you still. Is Ed Sheeran still a lad?
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Yeah. I don't think you can, like, I don't think you can. I had a chat with my friend the other day about, like, people on Zic or Manjaro because I was like, you can't out wit your fatness in your head. Like, it is always there. So my fatness is all my. My switch of, like beer, chocolate, kebab, it's always there. But I just, like, make sure I train a lot. And I do. Like, I'm probably gonna. Once my kids are in bed, I'm gonna go on a run with my wife. And I did a weights session this morning. So, like, I train a lot, therefore I can balance out that stuff. And before, I just never did that.
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That's a big reason why a lot of people work out is just so they can, like, succumb to temptation.
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Y balance. My. My fat man gene is not going. It is always there.
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It's like how you build your album too. Like, you're just. It's all about balance, right? That's like. I feel like that's a tenant of like, your life. Balance.
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Yeah, it definitely wasn't my life.
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My life, you had to learn the hard way.
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Now I was just like, when I was. I sort of found success when I was 18 and there was just a switch that just went on and I was just charged up, charged up for like 10, 15, probably like 11 years of my life.
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There's a famous quote by Andre 3000 that said, like, when you get famous is the age that you kind of stay at not forever, but for a long time. Is that kind of what happened to you?
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Yeah, I totally believe that as well. Like, if you meet people that were child stars or like, even. Even people that were. Became famous when they were teenagers or even people that became famous when they're like 34, you really see, like, the difference between people's.
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I'm 34. Forever.
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Yeah.
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That's a weird one to pick.
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Why not? Oh, yeah. So currently, what's the most lad ass thing about you now that you are kind of like living this more healthy, balanced lifestyle? But the lad is.
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I built a bowling alley.
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You built a bowling alley?
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Yeah.
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In the crib?
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No, my studio. I wasn't allowed to build at the house. Jerry said it was too weird.
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It's very. There will be blood of you.
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Yeah, I mean, why not?
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Are you. Are you nice at rolling?
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Not really.
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Are you getting better, though, Practice, right?
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Yeah, yeah, I'm getting all right. I love taking my daughters there. We have like, you know, the thing like that. You sort of push it down on it.
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Oh, the little ramp thing.
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So we have one of them. And I love. I love. Like, if I've got an hour to kill, I'll just take my daughter there and we'll just do it. It's super fun.
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Who doesn't love bowling? That is a very loud activity to have in the studio where you record music, I guess.
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You know what? We have a lot of people come through and you. I used to. Because I have a pub at my house. I used to always. I used to always host people at the house. And, you know, our house is sort of turned into a really wholesome family place. So now, like, I have people at the studio. We finished the day of studio. The bowling alley has a bar in it. We'll go in it, have a couple of pints, bowl a bit, and then I'll go home and they can stay there if they want. But I let like, my. My engineer that works at the studio. Like, he. He grew up locally. He's got all his mates. They do nice. They just go in when I'm not there. Can we get.
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Can we come by the pub?
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Yeah, yeah, totally, yeah.
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The pub or the studio?
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Another pub.
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I want to go bowling, dude. There's a bar in the bowling.
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Bowling. You'd have more fun at the bowling. The pub is kind of like, it's. It's more like an old man pub now where you, like, sit and we'll have a nice Love old man.
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Yeah, we are.
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Do you have anything on. On tap?
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Yeah, yeah. It's always locked and loaded.
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What do you. What are we pulling?
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We've got Stella Guinness.
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Hell, yeah.
B
The local ale, which is called Vic, a guest ale at the moment, which is a gluten free one. And then your daughter. Do you know what, me and my wife just trialed it because we've gone gluten free because of. Because of my daughter. We trialled it. It sucked.
C
Shocker.
B
A cider called Aspels, which I mentioned Paul's. So this is the thing. It's like a really famous cider in England is from Suffolk. And I mentioned it's my friend in New York. Do you know the rapper Hoodie Allen? Of course. So I spoke to him about it. He's like, y' all have a cider called Ass Balls. And I've grown up my whole life drinking Ass Balls. Yes.
C
Yeah, it's good brewing the ass and it goes straight to your balls now.
B
It's like hard cider and it.
A
And then you have a ketchup.
B
Yeah, I actually have a lot of ketchup in there as well.
A
Do crisps or the crisps.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
Prawn chips. Prawn crisps.
B
No, we do test Tesco crinkle. We got Monster Munch. Yeah. With Monster Munch bangers. No, it's Tesco finest. Tesco finest crinkle cut Salt and vinegar crisps. We got them. Yeah, they get.
C
You guys do salt and vinegar better than anyone.
B
Yeah, we. I think we do con. Like confectionery, like chocolate crisps and everything. Better than everyone. Have you guys eaten Hershey's?
A
Yeah, of course.
B
Yeah.
C
What are you talking.
A
I mean, we're not. I don't necessarily love no Cadbury.
C
Am I right?
A
You guys. You guys love your sweets.
B
We love our sweets. None of our sweets taste like newspaper. And I feel like Hershey. Yeah. Tastes like news.
C
You've eaten newspaper as a kid.
B
You've eaten paper. Yeah. And it tastes like shit.
A
Have you tried putting ketchup on the Hershey?
B
It might save newspaper on newspaper. I did a podcast the other week and they said, like, what's your unpopular opinion? And I was like, oh, that. It was an American podcast. Like, the Hershey sucks. And about an hour into the podcast, they were like, we have to re record that bit because we're actually sponsored by.
A
Oh, we're not Hershey. You're on notice. Like ass bro.
C
Newspaper.
A
Who are the most fun artists to party with? Just. Just to kick it with. Have a few. Have a sink, a few pints with split.
C
A couple G's.
B
Present. Yeah. Lewis Capaldi.
C
Okay.
B
And then someone who I grew up listening to, who I've toured with. James Blunt. Yeah. Both very fun and actually puts the Blunt. If we're talking legend. Legend.
C
Yeah.
B
Bono and edge from YouTube really hang. Really can really hang.
A
My dad was once in an elevator with the Edge and the Edge farted and did not.
C
Wow.
A
And no one said anything.
B
They're mate, they're. They're awesome. And like, I.
A
That's just like an Irish thing. Like, they just.
B
She's in there. No, but they're just. They're just like. I worked. I worked with them recently for about a week in. In Dublin. And what I love about them is they've been in a band together for like 40 years. And after every session we went to the pub and that's what they do every day. They go and they just have Guinness and a whiskey and I was just having Guinness. Like, I couldn't right, get into the whiskey and they would. We'd be there for like four or five hours and I go to bed and then. And then do it again. But I loved their, like, camaraderie that they do that. Like there's so many bands that have a fleet of cars that go separately to a gig just as stage time goes on, they go on, they play the show and then.
C
Have met them.
B
Yeah. Of course.
A
You hung out with that.
C
Yeah.
B
What are they like? Oh, yeah, I like him. I like him.
A
Which, which.
C
Which one you like better?
B
Yeah, well, no, no's. Noel can't work out whether he likes me. So some. Sometimes. Sometimes he'll say nice things about me and sometimes he'll say not nice things about. So I. Yeah, I kind of like whenever I see him, we really get on. And I've only met Liam once, but he was really sweet.
A
You've been known to pull out a guitar at the afters and lead the party in a drunken sing along. Do you play your own or is that like bad etiquette?
B
Now I go for like. I'll go for like the party pleases. I'll usually start with I want it that way and go into like. Hit me baby one more time.
C
Play Wonder Wall.
A
Oh, so you're playing like the white.
B
Never did, like Wonderwall's kind of like. That's almost too cliche. I think we just go 90s boy band pop slappers. Like. Yeah, that's that.
A
And that's what gets people going. That's what they want to hear. Sing alongs.
B
I think so. Yeah. If someone goes, you are. Everyone's in, you know, Fact, they were just about, like, 20 beers and someone starts singing Backstreet.
C
Oh, dude.
A
They were just.
B
They did.
A
Just did a week or two at the Sphere in Vegas, and, I mean, that's all I saw. Yeah, people loved it.
B
Yeah. Because they got bangers. Yeah.
A
I don't know if you learned your parting ways from him, but used to crash on Jamie Foxx's couch and he'd throw some ragers. Did he throw the best parties in Hollywood?
B
I don't. I only really went. I never really went to, like, Hollywood parties. Pretty. That so. Yeah, it was pretty cool. I mean, we went to, like, a cowboy themed party, and they had, like, Rafael Sadiq as the house band.
C
Sick.
B
You know, I was like, I just turned 18 at that point. Right. Super green. Just like, the. Is going on.
A
I'm gonna live like this forever. I need to make some changes. What's the biggest misconception people have about Ed Sheeran? Ed Sheeran?
B
Oh, man. I think there's so many narratives that are spun about me that what I've learned is I just have no control over it. It's just I can. I can live life and meet people, and that's the interaction they have with me. And those are the people that you can't. I don't know. I think if people know me, they're allowed to have an opinion of me.
A
What's, like, the craziest narrative you've seen out there about you where you're just like, where the did that come from? Whether it was like, something about, I don't know, just like a fake news.
B
Story or favorite rumor, like, AI songs. My security guard, who I see every single day, came up to me and was just like, oh, I really like this song.
C
Oh, no, you're fired.
B
He was like, I really love this song that you did with Adele. And I was like, fucking do a song with Adele. And then I went online and there's an AI song of me and Adele did a slap. It doesn't sound like me. It's. It's fucking with. I know. I know this guy. I've known this guy for, like, 11 years.
A
I'm like, what about music? Are you. Are you shook about that, or is it like, how do you combat that AI music?
B
Well, it didn't sound like me. Okay, so.
A
So your security guy has no idea what you sound like. He's never listened to a single Ed Sheeran track. In his life probably, right.
B
I think he did. I don't know if he saw the picture and was. Because the picture, you know, AI pictures kind of look like. I don't know. Really?
A
Yeah, I guess so.
C
Just have six fingers or something.
A
We just had. Our president just gave an address, you know, that was a full AI.
C
So, yeah, his fingers, his fingers were glitching.
B
Yeah.
A
How high up does this go?
B
Yeah, that's wild. You know what I don't understand about AI is for the last 60 or maybe even 70 years of movie making, it always fucking kills us.
C
So, like, why Terminator Skynet?
A
It starts with an adult collab, it ends with us just. You know what I mean?
B
But like, it, like it never ends well. And even so, even now everyone's saying, oh, it's getting too intelligent for us. And it's like learning on its own. Just like pop the brakes.
A
Do you use chat GPT at all? No, not to like, hey, what's a good restaurant near me?
B
Or something? No, I usually just ask a normal person, do you have a restaurant recommendation?
C
That works. That works.
A
I just set up a pizza review so I can eat.
B
Honestly, AI is scares me, man.
A
Yeah. Like as a musician or just as like a parent.
B
Just every human being, like, also like, like, like driverless cars, for instance. All you're doing is taking jobs away from people. Where are those people going to go? That's not good for a country to just have loads of people out of work. Yeah.
C
They could take a driverless car and go to a job interview, try to, you know, figure something out.
B
I don't know, man. I. I think it's all heading in a really nasty direction.
C
We agree.
A
What was. It was like the London cabs, they had the cabbie drivers. They had to take a test and like.
B
Yeah, they knew.
A
Yeah. The knowledge and they knew the map and the city so well that like a certain part of their brain was like, extra big pause versus, like, other dudes feel like they had like an extra bulge over here.
B
Uber's sort of changed that now. Like. But yeah, yeah, black cabs are definitely like the peak cab you can get in in London. Like, if you're gonna like actually get in a cab and be like, I need to go to this place. Yeah.
A
Are you a car guy?
B
50, 50, you know? Okay, 50, 50. Every now and then I'll be like, oh, look at this car. And then I want the Batmobile. Yeah, no, I bought. I. I have like, I have a Volvo and a Mini that are very much where I live. They fit in. And then I bought Suffolk.
A
What's. What's your address?
B
Yeah, I live. It's kind of like. It's kind of like Iowa. It's like a big farming. Okay.
C
The Iowa of England.
B
Yeah. Not as big. Yeah. And then I bought an Aston Martin DB6. Hell, yeah. And got it converted to electric, but it's taken like five years to do. And I'm kind of wondering at this point whether I've just been ripped off.
A
Yeah.
C
Is that you on your James Bond?
B
I ordered it. I watched. I read all of James Bond, and then I watched all of the James Bond films when my daughter was born and she's five now, and I ordered it that week and I still haven't got it.
C
One day.
A
Yeah. Did some guy just like float into your DMs, like, Yo, I can convert this?
B
It was someone at Aston Martin is doing. They had like a fire at the warehouse and.
C
Sure. All this excuse in the Hershey's.
A
You're on fucking notice, Aston Martin. You're also on fucking notice.
B
Would you get sued for the Hershey's thing?
A
No.
C
Sued.
B
Well, if I say it tastes like newspaper, it's an opinion.
A
Well, we're not going to get sued.
B
I mean, you.
A
This is a very litigious country.
B
It is in.
C
It better be careful.
A
To be careful. We'll just tell him it was AI. Don't worry.
C
Yeah, it wasn't me.
B
Maybe. Let's. Let's. Let's address it before we release it.
A
Ed, you recently. Not only did you buy the Batman suit with nipples, you also bought a Peter Pan costume and a sword from Rufio.
B
Yeah. Oh, I got hooks hat recently as well.
A
And Dustin Hoffman.
B
Yeah.
A
Wow.
C
These are your Infinity Stones. You're collecting them all?
B
Yeah, well, just I think that the store that I buy them from. No. Now. Okay. Just sort of like, do you want. Yeah, yeah.
A
We got a guy. We got a guy that wants to grow up.
B
Hit him up. Yeah.
A
Your therapist must have the easiest job in the world.
B
My therapist?
A
Do you see?
B
No, I don't see a therapist anymore. I used to when my friend fixed you. When my friend died, I had like two years of seeing him.
A
How is it? Like, what do you do for mental health? You know, being one of the most famous people in the world?
B
Like, can you imagine exercise? I'd say. Yeah. And I think not drinking has really, like, helped.
A
Are you fully off the sauce or.
B
You just like, at the moment, really pull it back? At the moment for you, man. Yeah, at the moment. But I feel. But I think that was kind of playing into it. I'd get super sad every day from, I guess, drinking. Like, it is a depressant.
C
Chemicals in your brain, you know?
B
Yeah. I'm not saying I'm like, off it. Off it, but I'm definitely at the moment, like, I haven't drunk in a while.
A
Do you take a break when you're, like, in album mode? You're like, I gotta lock in, I gotta sleep right. I gotta eat right?
B
Yeah, pretty much that. Pretty much that. Tell a lie, though. It was my last day of tour last week, and I did have a couple of beers to mark that. That was like four years of talking. But that apart from that, I wasn't like canned Guinness. No. Stella, you love.
A
Do you have a deal?
B
No, I just think Stella's the best lager. Really? You know how it.
C
Yeah, of course, dude.
B
Yeah.
A
Not a fan stuff.
C
It's okay.
B
Yeah.
C
It ain't no Budweiser, I'll tell you that.
A
Yeah, the King of Beers.
C
It's in the name, dude. It's in the name.
A
The King of Beers, bro. Buds. With your buds.
C
You have a king. We have a king. Our king is Budweiser, man.
B
I don't want to slag off loads of American stuff, but Budweiser. Bud Light, like. But actually, do you. Wait, you know what? Bud Light. When I'm watching NFL, sure. I'm like. But I get it. Not bad. Yeah.
A
But I can drink 19 of these.
C
Crushable.
A
Just straight to piss. Just. Yeah, you skip the middleman. It's just piss.
B
Yeah. They must be. They must be great American beer, though.
A
Yeah. Budweiser.
C
We've already named the king Modelo.
B
Modelo.
A
It's Mexican.
B
It's Mexican with Modelo.
A
Modelo is actually the top selling beer in America.
B
I can understand that.
A
It's fun.
B
Yeah.
C
That checks out.
B
I would say. I would say Mantello might even be my number two from Stella. Like, if I can't. If I can't get. But then I wouldn't have Modelo on draft. I'd only have made that from a bottle.
C
Yeah, sure.
A
What. Let's. Let's do the top five. Even though you're off the sauce, what's three, four, five of Ed Sheeran's top five beers?
B
Guinness, definitely. Even though that's a stout. Does that count? Yeah, yeah.
C
We're not doing lagers, just beers.
B
Yeah, Guinness. And then. I don't know. I kind of. I know it's not, like, up there with Stella, but Cronenberg 16, of course.
A
Yeah.
B
I really. With the French and this is really, really showing my, like, childhood. But it's like, it's not. It's not the best beer in the uk, but we love a Fozzie Bear, you know, Fosters.
A
Yeah.
C
Australian for beer.
B
It's not even Australian. I think it's just, like, marketed as Australia.
A
They don't drink it in Australia.
B
No, because it's not. It's not known as a great beer, but dog water.
A
It's terrible.
B
Yeah, but that. That's our Bud Light.
C
Okay, you drank it as a kid is what you're saying.
B
Yeah, but we'll drink it, like, if we're feeling scummy, like, if we want to go. And some can, like, want to have some kids smash darts and what's like.
A
The thing about America that still gives you, like, pause and like, like culture shock almost culturally.
B
Oh, do you know what relegation your. Your sports teams, if you. If you do bad, you just get given more money and better players.
A
If we do bad, we're fucking punished.
B
Yeah, we're punished.
C
That's so British. Honestly, when you think about it.
B
Yeah. No, but it allows for. It allows for underdogs to rise up from. From the ashes, right? And like, imagine. Imagine if college football was allowed a chance to get into the NFL. If Alabama State suddenly did really well and, like, you know, someone. Someone from the NFL, like, say, like the Lions dropped out in Alabama State, had the chance to win the Super Bowl. But imagine. Yeah, imagine.
C
Figures. Making up who schools.
B
Now who's your Alabama State?
C
Is that not just Alabama, Just Alabama Bama University.
B
Is it not called Alabama State?
A
No, no, it is a state.
C
Roll Tide.
A
Roll Tide.
B
Yeah. What's the one? That's the state one.
C
There's a lot of University of Alabama, Arkansas style. Yeah, there's Arkansas. I mean, now you're just naming other states.
A
There's 50 states.
B
No, I know, but the football, the college football.
A
Arizona State.
C
You're talking about the best team in college football playing.
A
Ohio State. Ohio State.
B
Ohio State. Ohio. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah.
C
Go Buckeyes.
B
Go Buckeyes. Roll Tide. And we pick Suey. Is the.
A
What club. What club do you support?
B
Tennessee Titans. No.
A
No. Okay. What?
B
Footy. Footy football. Ipswich Town. Oof.
C
Rough.
B
Yeah, I did sponsor them for four years. Yeah, I bought a small share of them as well. You got to support where you're from.
C
That's true.
B
You got otherwise. Like, otherwise. What are you tethered to?
A
They suck.
B
I wouldn't say they suck. Okay. I wouldn't.
A
They've been relegated.
B
They have been relegated. Yeah. But I would say that the English Premier League is the hardest league in the world. And I would say the championship, which is the league below it, is probably. I probably get in trouble saying, but it's a. Championship's a tough league.
C
I'm gonna shake a stick at it.
B
And there have been teams that are killing it in the Premier League now that struggled in the championship for years. So the championship is a tough league to be in.
A
Messi. Ronaldo.
B
Messi. Okay.
C
Correct.
A
You stoked for the World Cup? Are you gonna go to any matches.
B
In the U.S. yeah. Yeah. We're playing all the stadiums, so I've hit all of them up for today already.
C
Smart.
B
Yeah. I saw the guy from MetLife at my gig, and when I did the gig, I was like, if I book another show there, will you get me tickets? Yeah, it's easy.
A
You could have just asked for. I'm sure you didn't have to book another show. Do you have a box for the World Cup? Can we come?
B
Well, no, but that's my point. I'm doing. I'm doing favors, and we've just met.
C
Is it coming home? Is it coming home? How do you feel? Are you bullish?
B
I think bearish. I think the South American team will win it. Brazil, maybe? Maybe. I'd love to think that England win, but I think just sometimes it's the. The geographically where it is in. In the world.
A
All right, so it's coming home.
B
I hope so.
C
In your lifetime, maybe.
B
Well, it just came home for the lionesses. So, like, they. They've. They've won the. The Euros twice.
C
Shout out to them. But we're, you know, talking about, go America, guys.
B
The lads. Yeah, well, it's been a while since we've won anything. We almost won the Euros and we got pretty far in the last World Cup. We've got a good team, so you never know. Yeah.
C
You guys just love to choke, underachieve, etc.
A
It's the British way.
C
It really is.
B
Yeah. Although I've never seen America do anything.
C
Okay. It's not our whole culture.
A
Yeah. We have to use our hands.
B
We've got 350 million people here.
C
We're all playing basketball.
B
No, you're not. You all play soccer in school.
A
All.
B
All of you play soccer.
A
How many NFL teams you got? You got in the uk?
B
I think we do. We don't have NFL teams, but we have American football.
A
They're actually talking about expanding and having a London team, which Would be crazy. Yeah, that'd be so stupid.
B
Well, I don't know because you would get like, you'd get ex rugby players.
C
But the trap, the travel.
B
Oh, to over.
A
Yeah, they're like a local, like an NFL team in London.
B
I don't know. I wouldn't. Wouldn't be that different from New York to la. New York to LA is like a six hour flight. It's like seven hours to London.
A
Wait, why do you.
B
You.
A
Why do you. With the Tennessee Titans?
B
I lived in. I lived in Nashville for this. I lived in Nashville again. You got to. You got to support your.
C
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A
Ed, are you still, Still a big watch guy?
B
Yeah, yeah. I'd say that's like my main hobby or voice, really.
A
What? How many are in your collection right now?
B
I just actually counted them all up because I put them all in a different storage place. 153.
C
Wow.
A
Jesus.
C
Jesus Christ.
B
That's collected for like 15 years, though.
A
Before it was cool.
B
Yeah, way before, mate. I remember. I don't know if you're familiar with watches and different models, but I remember going into horology, Tiffany in New York, and they had a nautilus and an Aqua. Not next to each other in a case that I bought that day. Yeah, both. Both, Both stamps. You bought both that day. Just walked in, was like this.
C
Nice.
B
Yeah, well, I mean, it was a time, it was a time before it was all hype.
C
Your investments too, right? Like, how much are those worth now, you know?
B
Yeah, I don't know if they actually are, you know.
C
Do you think about them like that as financial instruments? A lot of watch guys now. I feel like it's.
B
No, it's whack.
C
Right?
B
I think if you're actually a collector and you like watches, you're not planning to sell them.
A
Do you have one that's still like your white whale that you haven't tracked down yet?
B
That I haven't tracked down yet.
A
153. What's gonna be 150?
B
No, no, no. I'm get, I'm super, like, I kind of get. I get into brands for like, periods, I think. And I, I, I'm super, super into IWC at the moment. They're like, anytime a brand goes into ceramic, I get super excited. I don't know why. I just get super excited about it. And they've started making really cool ceramic watches. And yeah, I'm, I'm in.
A
Have you ever bought one that you kind of regret whether it was like. It was like, why'd I get the big gold fat boy?
C
The giant panerai?
B
Oh, yeah, all the time. All the time. Yeah. I think. I think that's normal. But I always try and wear them. I'll always, like, swap them out. There's nothing in my collection that I'm like, I'm. I'm always like. Even if it is a big fat gold whatever. Right. I'll find a time to wear it. That will be fun.
C
If your house is on fire tomorrow and you can only save one watch of the 153, what is the. The crown jewel right now?
B
It would have to be the bank that was on fire, because they're not. They're not in the house. But if they were in the house. Hypothetical. Hypothetical. Come on, dude.
A
You know what I'm saying?
B
Come on, dude. My friend Jamal, who passed away.
A
Yeah.
B
We bought watches together. They were just like. They're just quartz toy watches. Probably that one.
C
The ones that have that real meaning.
B
Yeah.
A
Mental value.
B
Yeah, probably that one.
A
You collect watches, you collect Batman suits. What else do you collect? Sneakers, which we're going to talk about a second. Is there anything else you collect that, like, people aren't really aware of?
B
Collect wine. Yeah, but then I drink it. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm trying to. There's a. A Bordeaux wine called Mouton Rothschild that have a different artist paint the label every year. And it dates way back to 1945 and kind of a little bit before. And I've been trying to track down every single bottle and drink it as a special occasion.
C
And you save the art, I would imagine.
B
Yeah, I. I found a glass cutting guy, so he basically can cut the labels out and then I have them all stacked up.
C
So, like Matisse and Picasso and like all of that.
B
Yeah, all of that. All the most famous artists of all time have done one.
A
Have any of them? You open it up and it turn. And he's drinking vinegar.
B
Yeah, I bought a. And only because of, like, because of when it was from, but that I found a bottle of chateau Margaux from 1911 and I was like, this has survived two world wars, which is mad. And, yeah, we opened that actually on my honeymoon with my wife. And yeah, it was like, vinegar vibe killed immediately. No, I still drunk it.
C
Oh, well, you have to, right? It's from Chateau Margaret.
B
Two world wars.
A
How much? How much, like, sticks and leaves were at the bottom?
B
Yeah, it was a lot, man. Disgusting.
A
How many pairs of secrets do you own?
B
Not as many as you think.
A
Really.
B
Not as many as you'd think.
A
Have you gotten rid of a lot? Like, as you've I gave.
B
No, there's a man. There's a charity store in my hometown, and if I've worn trainers like two or three times and they're still in really good nick, I'll give them to them and they kind of auction them off and say that. Say that they're mine. So I do, like, I do run through them quite a lot. I would say I have a collection of the ones that are like, super hard to get. That is maybe like 20, you know, like. Like the green macklemores and stuff like that.
A
You can't just text your boy and be like, yo, yo, Mac, let me get.
B
Did he. When he gave them to me, he was just like, do not sell these because they only made 23.
C
Do you wear.
A
He'll know.
B
Yeah, yeah, I do. Okay.
C
Yeah, you wear your kicks.
A
He's like, Look, a size 10 just hit StockX. It's blacklisted.
B
I think one of his mates did. I think one of them, because DJ Khaled ended up buying a pair. So there was. It definitely ended up. Damn. Definitely ended up on the.
C
Be your own, you know?
B
Yeah.
A
What's the most you've ever spent on.
B
A pair of trainers? God, I don't know. I don't know. How much of what the most expensive?
C
Like air mags or something? Like just something crazy?
B
Nah, I think 84 Jordans. No, I think I bought some Travis Scott dunks that were like two and a half grand.
C
Yeah, light work.
B
Yeah, Easy, but. Yeah, but I'm not gonna spend like 20 on a pair of shoes.
C
Some people do.
B
Yeah, but then they don't wear the shoes. I wear the shoes.
C
Right.
B
I like, knacker them out. My. My red Octobers are knackered.
A
Really?
C
Yeah, they're cooked, torched, sauteed in flambe. They're better that way.
A
What. What are you going to get Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey as a wedding gift?
C
Yeah, dude, spoiler alert.
A
What's on the registry?
B
Probably, like, you know what? Probably a big case of wine. Yeah, I reckon that's a good wedding gift. Like a big, big case of wines.
A
Make sure it hasn't turned.
B
No, I think I'd get it from the year that they were married.
C
Okay.
B
And that, you know, like a kind of like you buy them 36 bottles of a really nice wine from the year they were married, future vintage, and then they can go back to it. And that's probably what I would do.
A
Right.
C
What was the best wedding gift you got and who gave it to you?
B
Oh, that's a good Question.
C
Thank you.
B
Do you know what Cherry's dad. We had a really small wedding and it was like a marquee in our garden and Cherry's dad cooked the curry. And that whole thing was. Obviously that was a wedding gift from them. I think that was the best wedding gift because it was the most normal, sound country wedding sort of run by my wife's parents with all my, like, mates. And it was just really wholesome. So that was. That was probably the best gift as.
A
A. Oh, back to. Real quick, back to your friend Taylor. As a married man. What's the marriage advice you would give to the newly engaged couple? Happy wife, happy life.
B
Yeah. And honesty. Like, me and my wife have, like, regular tiny arguments that we talk about things. We don't let anything build up and have, like, massive cataclysmic relationship ending arguments. We talk a lot and we have tiny little arguments all the time that we sort out. Like when we go on runs. We talk a lot and we're just honest. There's nothing that. There's nothing that will be on my mind for more than a day without me speaking to her and vice versa.
A
That's good.
C
Death by a thousand cuts. We love it.
A
How far do you run? What's your pr. What's your mile time?
B
I don't know really. I run like 45 minutes. I guess that's like 7K or something like that. Pretty, pretty.
A
Pretty good.
B
Four or five miles. Yeah, about that.
A
Would you ever do a marathon?
B
Nah, I find. Do you know what I think? Do you know what I think a pop stars marathon is? I was thinking about this the other day. I think it's a men's health cover. You know how like.
C
Yeah.
B
You know how, like, most like mid-30s, whoever, men or women are like, right, I'm gonna run a marathon now. I think pop stars go, I want to do a men's health.
C
Gonna get shredded.
B
Yeah.
C
Are you a Strava guy?
B
No, I don't really like smart watches like that. I don't like anything like, monitors my blood. Like, it, like, freaks me out. Yeah, well, I don't want. I hate. I hate blood and like pulsating like I just off needles. Yeah. I don't like it weirdly because I get loads of tattoos.
A
Is that what you're unvaxed?
B
But the.
A
Just kidding. Don't run with that new story.
C
God is ass.
B
No, but the. I hate getting my blood taken. Like, I have to get my blood taken a lot for. I fell off my bicycle mid tour and we claimed a load of money back from insurance because I broke my arms. But now I have to have like a medical checkup every quarter and they take a lot of blood. Oh, they hate it.
A
You ever pass out or they give you like the cookie for.
B
I get close biscuits. Yeah. I get proper. Proper light. Yeah. Lightheaded. I'm really bad with blood.
A
When was the last time you got a tattoo?
B
Two days ago. I got my really. My daughter drew a little polar bear and I got polar bear.
C
Do you regret any of these guys?
B
Any of the tats?
C
And is it Squirtle?
B
Yeah, I think. I don't think I have squirrel. No.
C
Said you did.
B
No, I have a little Pokeball. I've got. I've got Blinky, the three eyed fish from the Simpsons.
A
Oh, hell yeah.
B
I think I am. Maybe I have squirrel, actually. I don't know. I got so many.
C
I think you have Squirtle dog.
A
Really?
B
I don't think I do.
A
How many of your Simpsons tattoos are or. Sorry? How many of your tattoos are Simpsons related?
B
Two. I've got. I've got a picture of the. This castle and it said it was the blurst of times underneath.
A
Oh, it was the worst of times.
B
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
A
This guy's never seen the Simpsons.
C
Yes. Ed Sheeran has a Squirtle tattoo according to Google. AI. So you should.
B
Yeah, but it's AI. AI, mate.
C
One of those rumors.
B
No, I. I have a pokeball tattoo because that was when I did the song for Pokemon. I got a pokeball tattoo. I don't think I have a squirrel. To answer the question, do I regret them? It's either a yes or it's a no. Never.
C
Like some days, binary.
B
I wonder if I just removed all my tattoos, what I'd look like? And then some days I'm like, I like all of them. So there's none that I like.
A
But that's like they become you like you see them anymore.
B
Yeah, but there's none that I'd be like. I'd lose that one.
C
Right.
B
You know, I'm completely.
A
I didn't realize you were also. You're shredded.
B
Cheers, mate.
A
Yeah.
C
Looking good, brother.
B
Working out. I'm doing a lot of reformer Pilates. Do you do any of that?
A
That sounds with the machine. Yeah, it's a torture rack.
B
Yeah. Yeah, it's. It's great for the core and absolutely strong kegels. All of that, it's just. It just burns.
A
All right, last question, Ed, before we get you out of here and you got to go pick up your Daughters.
B
This has been such a fun podcast.
C
Hell yeah.
B
I already know what to expect when I walked in.
A
Don't worry about it. We got you.
B
Well, I don't know. You never answered my question about your shirt, though.
A
I bought.
B
Did you do it?
A
No, no, I would never. I. I bought a pre. Shredded. Yeah, but not. Cause it was shredded. It was just.
C
It's great.
B
I went to a club with Benny Blanco once and he had a shirt like that, and I kept putting my finger in it and ripping bigger holes and eventually I just ripped the shirt off. I felt so bad because he just then was topless with friends.
A
Like, I'm sure he loved it, though.
B
Yeah, I don't think he did. I felt really bad.
A
We parted with Benny and he's like, all right, we got 20 minutes. And then we ended up chatting for like two hours. And he's like, I don't know if he still lives there now because it's pre.
B
20 minute. What, you went to a party for 20 minutes?
A
No, we went to, like, and we went to, like, his, like, theater sex room with all weird velvet shit.
C
Pool house with all the candy.
A
Okay, who is on your ginger? Mount Rushmore. Name yourself.
B
No, my mum.
A
Okay, mum.
B
I think she's the goat.
A
Did your parents make you vegetarian?
B
Yeah.
A
Okay.
B
Yeah.
A
Are they still veg now?
B
They weren't even veg then.
A
Are you serious?
B
Yeah.
C
Damn.
A
Fuck.
B
It was something to do with, like. It was something to do with meat and diseased meat in the UK. Okay. Around the time early 90s.
A
Mad. You guys had mad cow.
B
I think it was mad cow. Yeah.
A
That's crazy.
C
Cows are mad.
B
It was something to do with that. I don't know the full story. I'm sure if she. We. She sat down.
A
All right, so she's. She's got it on Mount Rushmore.
B
Yeah.
A
Three more unranked.
C
Yeah, just the top four.
B
I mean, RER, I think. I think RER's amazing. Geyser and Rupert has done a lot for.
C
Representation.
B
When I was in school, like, it was amazing having a cool ginger. Right?
A
Representation.
B
Yeah.
A
Seriously, it's good to see yourself.
B
Yeah.
A
Before Rupert, gingers never got.
B
Let's have a think. Action Brunson.
A
He's a ginger.
B
I think he is. I. I think he is.
C
I mean, you're the expert dog.
B
I think Action Brunson's ginger.
C
Okay.
B
Yeah.
A
Okay, Okay.
B
I think he is.
A
I can. I can only.
B
He's a cool ginger. If he is.
A
I can only picture him with, like, the shaved head and, like, the Head tags.
C
And his beard isn't red, though.
A
It's like. It's like ruddy. You know.
B
This will be a good debate. Is actually Prince Ginger. If he's not, I'll think of a fifth.
C
Okay.
B
And then who else? Paul Bettany. Oh, very cool. Suave ginger. Hell, yeah.
C
He's sick.
B
Yeah. Who else?
A
You have a fifth? Just.
C
Yeah, for the.
A
For the action bronze contingency.
B
Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think. There's a ginger guy in Battle Royale. Okay. Who. He's obviously dyed his hair red, but he was the guy with. I think he had a. So he was cool. You seen Battle Royale?
C
Classic og but that's not a ginger, because he dyed his hair and it's a fictional character, which I guess is fair.
B
He's still repping. Who else?
C
Ronald McDonald.
B
Jesus. Nah. Yeah. My favorite fast food. I mean, I bang at Maccas. Yeah, yeah. Maccas is good hangover food. Honestly. Kebabs, though, like, our kebab shops in Britain are unbeaten. You don't really have a culture for it out here.
A
No, we don't, but we. Whenever we're in the uk, I will, like, sort star rating low to high.
B
Yeah.
A
And make sure to hit it, because.
B
You can go really wrong. You can go. Really? I got bad food poisoning from kebab shops.
A
Really?
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can go. You can go super wrong. The ones in London, though, really good.
C
We love it. Dude.
A
And what's the order delicacy? The garlic Sheesh wrap.
B
Yeah, I'll get, like, a Sheesh kebab with, like, garlic, cucumber, and all the fucking McGubbins. And they'll usually get cheesy chips if you had them. They put the chips.
A
White sauce.
B
Yeah. Also, like, my security guy calls it roofing felt. But the Donna. The Donna kebab. Yeah.
C
Classic, bro.
B
Yeah.
A
Well, what does he know?
B
He doesn't even know the other one. There's a. Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I got a few. Me.
A
Well, listen, Ed, we want to thank you for coming on.
B
If you've got any more questions. I'm having fun, man.
A
Sure. What do you like to spend your money on besides watches, cars, movie memorabilia.
B
Experiences like holidays, like travel. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
C
What's on the hit list? What's next up?
A
Yeah.
C
Where haven't you been? Antarctica.
B
No, I've been there.
C
The edge here in difference.
B
I haven't been to North Pole. The Arctic. Yeah. I haven't been to, like, Greenland and.
A
Oh, all right. So wait, so what's on the bucket list for travel?
B
Yeah. I'd love to go to the Arctic.
C
North seaside at the North Pole.
B
You know what? You mentioned Vietnamese food earlier. I've never been to Vietnam, and we had a show booked there, and then Covid happened. So I think I'd love to. I'd love to go there.
A
That'd be sick.
B
And then there's. There's just a bunch of African nations that I've been to. Probably five African nations. Egypt would be incredible. Seeing. Seeing the pyramid. I saw Russ went to do a show at the Pyramids, and I just. I got real show jealousy.
A
Like, I want to do that.
B
Yeah, it looks cool.
A
Is that how it works? If you're just like, I want to. I want to do a. A show at the pyramids. And then, like, you just have people that just figure it out.
B
Yeah, yeah. It's usually in my position. It kind of works as. Do you want to lose money or Versus? So there's some places that I play. Like, last year, we toured loads of places around, like, Europe and Eastern Europe and went to go and play, like, Cyprus and Tenerife and all this stuff. And some of those places. I lost tons of money.
C
Yeah.
B
Playing even though we sold out the shows just because we had to freight stuff there. So sometimes there are places in the world that if I go, I'm cool with losing money playing a show there, even if it sells out, then we get to go there. But sometimes it's because we take our team. We've got, like, 200 people in our team, and that's 200 hotels, 200 flights, 200, like, days off. You have to pay, you know, it's like, it ends up being quite a lot of money.
A
You could do a show at the North Pole. Who's a shitload of money, but play to a bunch of penguins?
B
Yeah.
C
I say, who do you play to?
B
No. North Pole's penguins.
A
Oh, sorry.
B
Yeah. Polar bears. Polar bears, yeah. Google, when you get a chance, Google polar bears without their hair. It's weird.
A
Really?
B
Yeah. Freaky.
A
Is that what your tattoo is? Of hair?
B
No, no, no, no.
A
Polar bear with alopecia.
B
No, I like it. I like it. Sweet.
A
Wasn't gonna ask you.
C
Oh, my God.
B
Yeah.
C
Horrific, dude. Action Bronson style. Kind of. Honestly.
B
Yeah.
A
Google.
B
Action Brunson. I'm sure he's ginger with red hair.
A
Google it. Action Bronson. Red hair, yo.
C
Oh, actually, maybe. Oh, you know, he has a red beer.
A
You're right.
B
Yeah.
C
Wow. Ricky Hatton, you're out of here. Get the out.
B
Both of them.
A
Mount Rushmore locked. What's the dumbest purchase you made recently?
B
Oh.
C
Where to begin?
B
Sometimes I just end up, like, lending people money for things.
A
Money.
C
I don't know, like, us.
B
But I know that I'm never going to see it again. Do you know what I mean?
A
Charity.
B
Yeah. And sometimes people don't do the thing that I've lent them the money for. Do you know what I mean? And then, like, you see them, like, a year down the line, you're like.
C
It'S a new watch Grill. A chain. Yeah, we get it.
A
They own a kebab shop.
B
No, that'd be great.
A
That'd be so sad.
C
Get back to the community.
B
That'd be great.
A
Yo, Maybe instead of a bowling alley or. Not instead, you got pull up the bowling alley, build a kebab shop, and then you're just at Lad Land.
B
That's. I did actually. I know this sounds weird, but I did actually look into buying a fish and chip van for my house. My wife thinks that with every step that I take, I get weirder and weirder, so I'm trying to, like, less weird. Yeah.
A
Okay, last question. Because we do have someone here trying to make their way, even though. Even though we want to keep hanging out.
B
But if you guys can't see on the camera, but they put a chair up against the lock of the door.
C
So no one can get. We have kidnapped Ed Sheeran and our ransom is more time to hang out.
A
Ed Sheeran, do you have any constructive criticism you would like to give us?
B
Yeah. No, I love it. I love it. Yeah. I feel like there was no agenda of this agenda of this interview other than just like, let's have. Let's have a chat.
C
You nailed it.
B
I like it. You know, like, if someone just put a point in front of you and just stared at you, you probably would down it.
C
Just out of, like, sink it, brother.
B
Not knowing what's happening.
A
We'd neck it. Yeah, you'd neck it. You split the G. Or is that, like, not something. As a British.
B
Yeah, I could. Yeah. It's two and a half gulps.
A
Okay.
C
But it's not corny to do that because, like, I feel like there's some.
B
It depends who you speak to, really. I think it was all a marketing gimmick by Guinness. I wouldn't say that it's corny. It's quite fun. It just means you have a good first.
A
I heard two and a half gulps. Or you position your hand a certain way and you drink until, like, the middle finger and then you put it down. It's like, perfect.
B
I don't know. Yeah, so I just. Just usually do two and a half goals.
A
Ed, we want to thank you for.
C
You don't plug anything. Yeah, Plug the record.
A
You have an album coming out or anything.
B
Like, I feel like whenever I do promo, people are just sort of aware that there might be something else.
A
So I don't.
C
I never. That's why he's here.
B
Yeah.
A
It's on the hoodie, folks.
B
Yeah.
C
Read it and weep.
B
Yeah, no, I'm fine with, like, plugging stuff. There's. There's a plethora of music out there. Go and listen to what you want.
A
Sure.
B
Yeah.
A
Ed, thank you for coming on to the link podcast.
C
Better Chef, you're the man.
A
Take us out.
Throwing Fits: The Ed Sheeran Interview
Date: September 23, 2025
This episode of Throwing Fits features global superstar Ed Sheeran in a candid, hilarious, and wide-ranging conversation with the hosts. Ed joins the lads on the eve of his album release to riff on music, fashion, ketchup, party stories, watches, British food, his love of kebabs, and goated gingers. The conversation is playful, unfiltered, and filled with both personal reflection and lighthearted banter, offering an authentic glimpse into Sheeran’s life beyond the charts.
On collecting:
“You collect watches, you collect Batman suits… what else do you collect?”
– Host [44:52]
On priorities:
“I literally, like, 10 minutes ago had my daughter on my shoulders walking in a park, and then I got in a car and came here.”
– Ed Sheeran [07:44]
On ketchup:
“That’s not that weird. Ketchup on steak is not that weird.”
– Ed Sheeran [10:22]
“Ketchup on steak is like putting a bumper sticker on a Lambo.”
– Host [10:25]
On AI & rumors:
“My security guard, who I see every single day… was like, ‘I really love this song you did with Adele’… and it was an AI song. I never did a song with Adele!”
– Ed Sheeran [28:16]
On watches:
“I just actually counted them all up… 153.”
– Ed Sheeran [42:35]
Everything you’d expect from Throwing Fits: raw, irreverent, open, and framed by authentic curiosity, with Ed Sheeran both matching and elevating the chaos. It’s the rare podcast chat where chart-topping hits, deep cuts, condiments, fashion, and real talk about life, loss, and priorities all coexist naturally.
For more behind-the-scenes, check out the full episode.