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Jiro
And breathe.
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Ryan
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Interviewer 2
Bonjour. Thank you. Thank you.
Interviewer 1
Bonjour, Paris. We are Throwing Fits, the self proclaimed only podcast that matters. And we are joined by two homies who linked up and put together what many are calling the greatest table tennis sneaker of all time. Here to dive deep. Speaking of the bike.
Ryan
Holy.
Interviewer 1
Here to dive deep into the collaborative process. What's next for the world of sneakers and the cheat code on how to get your very own AS six collaborations, please welcome Jiro, the founder of Little Tokyo Table tennis and Ryan, the global energy slash collaborations manager of ASIC Sports Style. What a job title. Welcome, guys. Jiro, why aren't you wearing the LTT A6 mascot uniform in this heat? Are you too big time that he got an Asics club?
Jiro
I just took it off right now,
Interviewer 1
but I don't sweat that shit is serious.
Jiro
It is very serious. They. Yeah, props to them for.
Interviewer 2
How long did that take to make?
Jiro
I don't know how long it took to make my. The agency aimco, they took care of the production. We made a version of them ourselves in LA to kind of test out, but they are just as hot. And shout out to Zoe, my sister who designed the shouts.
Interviewer 2
They were gonna say, your sister is the mascot and I was like, Jesus
Jiro
Christ is a professional mascot maker. No, she's a painter. But she did.
Interviewer 1
Hope you're paying whoever's wearing them extra in this heat. Who approached who about collaborating together? Like, how did this happen?
Jiro
You came on to me, right?
Ryan
I think, I think, I think I slid in now. Yeah, I think I was the first to slide into the DM zone.
Interviewer 1
So is that where all great collaborations happen, just in the dms?
Ryan
Yeah, pretty much.
Interviewer 2
How thirsty is that first message?
Ryan
I mean, it was just a vanilla, really. Vanilla?
Jiro
Oh, it's boilerplate.
Ryan
Like all this stuff. They've been repping Asics for so long, it just. It just made sense for.
Jiro
Yeah, a pretty long time. It worked.
Interviewer 1
And did you guys play a match to determine if the collab would actually happen or like who got better terms in the rev share or anything?
Ryan
I never played you.
Jiro
I've never seen you play. You.
Ryan
I would get destroyed.
Jiro
You should play.
Ryan
I do hold the paddle nice, though.
Jiro
Yeah.
Interviewer 1
How do you. How do you hold the paddle?
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Interviewer 2
Can you demonstrate?
Jiro
Oh, how. How do you hold the paddle also?
Ryan
Do you.
Interviewer 1
Do you just walk around with a ping pong paddle?
Jiro
I mean, I'm on the. I mean, I'm on the job. It's my life, so. Yeah, I always have it on me.
Interviewer 2
You always on the clock.
Interviewer 1
Do you sleep with it?
Ryan
It's.
Jiro
Yeah, she does. My girlfriend's green. I said yes, I do. Everywhere. It's not weird if you do what I do.
Interviewer 2
How many paddles do you own? Like, what's the normal amount?
Jiro
I'm not a normal person when it comes to ping pong, so I have. I don't know.
Interviewer 1
How many, how many. How many ping pong paddles does he own?
Jiro
Like, like 20, 20 ish.
Interviewer 1
How much money have you spent on ping pong paddles in your life?
Ryan
Tell them about the one you just bought.
Jiro
Oh, yeah. So, I mean, that's. I can't. I can't put a number on it, but yeah, Asics. I mean, I brought some that are some very rare, like old Asics blades is what the paddle is called when it does the rubber on either side. It's just the piece of wood is called the blade. But ASICS has a.
Interviewer 1
Is that a real term or is that you just make that up?
Jiro
I wish I just made it, but that is a real term. But yeah. No, ASICS used to. I mean, they still do make table tennis stuff, but they used to make a lot more equipment. So there's like some really old.
Narrator/Ad Voice 2
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Interviewer 2
Is that expensive on ebay, like hunting down.
Jiro
You can't really find that stuff on ebay because the table tennis culture in the US Isn't. Doesn't run as deep in many ways. It all comes from like, Europe and Asia mostly. So you have to kind of like,
Interviewer 1
well, we're changing that. We're changing that today.
Jiro
Yeah, we're trying to.
Interviewer 2
One ball at a time.
Jiro
Yeah.
Interviewer 1
Did you always want to work on the gel Resolution 5 or did you kind of land on it, like, with Ryan's guidance? Like, how does that, how does the design process work? How do you pick what model you want to work on?
Jiro
We're fresh with Asics. This is our first official project, aside from the last one, so we don't have complete free. We can't invent shoes yet for asics. So we were guided towards this model because it is a tennis shoe. Originally from. I don't know, how many, 10, 15 years ago?
Ryan
2013, 14.
Jiro
So, yeah, closest possible style silhouette to a table tennis shoe. And it works really well for table tennis.
Interviewer 1
And you are a designer by training, Right? Like, you went to fashion school here in Paris.
Jiro
I did go to fashion school here in Paris.
Interviewer 1
You dropped out?
Jiro
I dropped out. I told you that before we started Twitter.
Interviewer 1
Incompetence or not too soon.
Ryan
Too soon.
Jiro
Yeah. But I guess originally I started, like, going to school. We were pattern making, draping, doing women's wear. Just kind of like couture intro stuff. So my first brand was just women's wear doing stuff like that. Sewing. So I do have a design background.
Interviewer 2
Yes.
Interviewer 1
And then, like, what's the. I mean, how do you fucking design a sneaker?
Jiro
I don't know. I mean, I. At first. I mean, when you get the cads and the thing and all that, you just kind of, like, plug colors in and stuff. Obviously, I'm not the only one that worked on this. Nick Guzman, who's in the back, he helped a lot on this style. Shout out Nick. Shout out Nick. Looking.
Interviewer 2
Looking cool.
Jiro
Yeah, he's the cool guy. So the shoe looks really, really cool. But, yeah, we. You kind of just, like, intuitively, you know, like, you. You just pour. Just kind of like how. What you're feeling into it. And, like, you just. You. You pull these references and you kind of, like, play with things. And it went through tons of iterations before.
Interviewer 2
How do you think you did?
Jiro
I think they're cool. They're goofy, man. They're. I mean, it's like. I think they look great. The club, I mean, LTD personality, if I had to, you know, assign it, one is all over the place, and it represents a lot of different things. So I think the shoe is favorite. I like both. I mean, they're designed.
Interviewer 1
Not pick one Intentions.
Jiro
This one is, like, a much more classic table tennis, like, colorway gum sole, black midsole.
Interviewer 1
What about the lacing system? Is that yours at Asics?
Jiro
The lacing system, Ryan.
Ryan
Oh, man.
Jiro
I'm. I.
Interviewer 1
Like, this is a point of contention.
Ryan
No, it was a whole conversation. Oh. But especially about, like, the. What, the toggle?
Jiro
Yeah, the toggle.
Ryan
He really didn't want it.
Interviewer 2
Oh, really?
Ryan
But wait, you have to have a
Jiro
toggle
Ryan
for safety reasons, right?
Interviewer 1
I take the toggle off for speed reasons. Oh, you're toggless.
Ryan
Yeah.
Interviewer 1
Ryan, how do you, like. What's your process for deciding who's a good fit to collaborate with.
Ryan
I mean, we have so many people approaching us now, but the people that. The real strongest ones, I would say, are the ones that really are passionate. You can just kind of tell off the bat whether they really want to work with us or not. And, like, they come in with ideas or, like, they've referenced it in the past. Like, I think that really is, like, how we're really trying to narrow down who we're working with right now.
Interviewer 1
Okay, so if anybody out there wants an Asics collaboration, post a picture of Asics.
Ryan
Yeah, and then what on Instagram?
Interviewer 1
And then what's, like, the weak that you get where you're like, this is not. This ain't it.
Jiro
You're gonna name names?
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Ryan
No comment.
Interviewer 1
No, it's just like, oh, we want to. We want to do a sneaker because we want a bag.
Ryan
People have said that?
Interviewer 1
Yeah, they've said that. Yeah, I think we said that.
Interviewer 2
How do we. How do we. How do you turn people down? What's, like, the. How do we let them down easy?
Ryan
Ryan, I don't know if I can give you the strategy, because then people. People will know when I'm saying no.
Interviewer 2
Well, they're gonna.
Interviewer 1
They better know that you're saying no, otherwise they're never gonna leave you alone.
Ryan
Depends. I don't know. Sometimes you're just like, oh, I'm good.
Interviewer 1
You're too nice.
Ryan
Or sometimes, yeah, no, I'm too.
Interviewer 2
You're a diplomatic.
Ryan
I'm way too nice.
Interviewer 1
All right, question for both of you guys. Besides the LTTT gel Resolution 5, what's your favorite Asics collab ever?
Interviewer 2
There's no wrong answer.
Jiro
No, there's no wrong answer. I'm not. Yeah, actually, we had a good talk with Alvaro last night over some. Some drinks, and he was. We were talking about where kind of a lot of the influence kind of gets, like, pulled from. And we were talking about, like, Marseille and, like, the streets and the kids and how they kind of keep it real and how they kind of been wearing the same thing still to this day that they have been, like, 10, 20 years ago. And Jules, who's a French artist from the region of Marseille who's extremely famous now in Europe, but Alvaro actually revealed that Asics did a jewel asics shoe in 2008 or how long ago? No, eight years ago. Right? 18. 20. 18. It's, like, hideous, but it's so cool. Like, it's. I think it's amazing, but it's so crazy. And. But that's, like, what Jewel. I mean, Jewel is just like a. He's like an alien.
Interviewer 1
It's so bad. It's good.
Jiro
Yeah, it's amazing.
Interviewer 2
Love that.
Jiro
So that. That's kind of what I like. I like the weird, like the corgi thing, the thing that they did before. He was, you know, not as famous as he is now, obviously, but I like that kind of stuff.
Interviewer 1
Ryan favorite ever.
Ryan
Kiko's first.
Interviewer 2
Oh, yeah.
Ryan
Oh, Joburg's one.
Interviewer 2
Yeah, those are really good. How.
Interviewer 1
I mean, it's pretty fucking obvious to anyone with eyeballs and a pulse that Asics has absolutely skyrocketed these past few years. What went into that? Is it the collabs? Is it like just being on trend?
Ryan
I think it's the collabs, but the product is just good too. Like, we just. I think we make the best product. I'm not paid to say that at all, but I really do think that we do.
Interviewer 2
Like, you can.
Jiro
You could do.
Ryan
You can do anything you want in it, you know, so.
Interviewer 1
So product first. But how important were collaborations in, like, kind of effect?
Ryan
They're really important. I mean, like Kiko, I mean, we worked with Ronnie for like, I don't even know, like, 18 years maybe. I don't. It's been so long. So, I mean, jound. Jound.
Interviewer 1
Huge.
Ryan
Cecily Bonson. I mean, there's just so many to name, but they kind of like helped build us up to this point. But that paired with how good our stuff is, I think is just why we're currently doing well.
Interviewer 1
You also, like, use them to kind of tap into different communities. I think, like, Kiko is a way to kind of, you know, bring it to like, fashion. What these guys are doing, like, with the community they built, like now you're just plugged in with them.
Ryan
Yeah, I mean, just trying to differentiate, like, not too much overlap with each collaborator either, but just trying to find the best way to really authentically speak to everyone, you know?
Interviewer 1
And what do you think from your 35,000 foot view? What do you think is the next big thing in sneakers?
Interviewer 2
Where are we going?
Ryan
I think a lot of other brands are known for doing something really well. I mean, we have like a pretty rich history in doing a lot of things well. And I think just the authenticity piece is probably what's going to really push through for whatever the next trend is. Like, for example, we just do the white and silver runners super well. We've been doing it really well. I would say a lot of people are following us at the moment, but I I mean it's true.
Jiro
It's going to be ping pong.
Ryan
I mean we've been doing it since 2019. It's going to be. That was like when we did our
Jiro
first one, ping pong shoes.
Ryan
But we, but we have a rich history in table tennis shoes too. So it's like. But every brand is known for something, you know, So I think that that will really be what they succeed with. Like especially us too.
Interviewer 1
And how do you judge, like personally, how do you judge if a collaboration is successful? Is it like sellout rate? Is it like seeing on StockX for $1,000? Like what is. How do you judge the success rate of a collab?
Ryan
I mean the sell through is like important but there's other things. I mean you could point to like 10 different things as to why it did well or like judging whether it's good or not. I mean like how excited people are. You could tell like when people are directly DMing you or like commenting on something or the sell through is obviously important, the resale is important. But that's like, that's not the end all obviously. Like we just want to make good stuff that's a little more timeless that people really like. That's just an easy barometer for success to look at though.
Interviewer 2
Which one of those means the most to you personally? What do you like to see especially on the projects you've worked on?
Ryan
I think if it like resonates with people, you could just tell whether like when something like really you can feel it. Yeah, like, like this one too. I think that a lot of people are really excited, especially back home in LA are really excited for. Because I mean they've, they've deserved this for a minute. But a lot of people have really bought into what they're doing. So for them to really do this I think is like just a huge step for them. And then I think that we're feeling the passion from like everyone else in terms of like how excited they are.
Interviewer 1
I want to ask about that. So Jiro, like what's the vibe like at the your weekly ltt? Like the open sessions you have, like is it raucous? Is it competitive? Is it just fun?
Jiro
It's a, it's a little bit of everything. I mean it's first and foremost just like it's an open club so anybody can come and play. Sometimes you have little kids, sometimes we have old people, sometimes it's like groups of friends. Sometimes it's people that come alone. So you kind of encounter like every, not like every walk of life. But there's a, there's a very diverse group of people and it's in like the, you know, there'll be 100 people there, 150 people there every week. So there's all sorts of things that happen there. And the level is from, you know, not knowing how to play at all to Ryan.
Interviewer 2
That would be Ryan.
Jiro
Yeah. If he ever comes one day.
Ryan
I'm not, I'm not like ter.
Interviewer 1
I went to two, Ryan.
Ryan
I've been to two.
Jiro
Let's go, let's see it. Yeah, yeah. So there's, there's some people that have been coming since, you know, year one and it's almost year five and you see them progress and they're starting to play more competitively at our club and then they go to other clubs and like they, you know, discover their own version of a passion for table tennis.
Interviewer 2
How much gambling is happening? Be honest.
Jiro
It's. It's happening behind my back. I don't know. I don't gamble.
Interviewer 2
You don't? Oh, you don't gamble?
Jiro
I don't gamble.
Interviewer 1
Are you the best player in ltt?
Jiro
No, no, there's some, there's players that come. I mean, now we're, we're getting like, obviously more known in the like, serious circuit. So like players from like UCLA will come. If Kyle Pack shows up, he'll beat me.
Ryan
Who?
Jiro
Kyle Pack over there. He's been coming. We started it way back in the day together pre, pre. Lcct. But no kids come. And like I said, behind the bag. I'm good enough to have this club so I can hold my own.
Interviewer 1
But you sucked at table tennis.
Jiro
Yeah, if I sucked at table tennis, I wouldn't be here. I wouldn't be here. But yeah, no, there's kids that are like amazing.
Interviewer 1
Do you still love it even though it's kind of now like become your job and jobs suck?
Jiro
Yeah, no, I'm discovering like all new kinds of dimensions with table tennis that I didn't think were possible because we're kind of one like carving our own lane and also just like encountering these like interesting opportunities, being able to do this with this partnership and the support we get to bring like the energy we have in LA into Paris Fashion Week, which for me, LTT being like a club first and foremost to me has nothing to do with Fashion Week. So it's kind of just like a. Yeah.
Interviewer 1
I mean, what's it like to have gone to school here? Now you're leading a week long activation with the best sneaker brand in the world.
Jiro
I think it's cool. My mom's always like, yeah, like, you dropped out of this, like, prestigious fashion school. Like, maybe all your Asian parents, you'll, like, yeah, yeah, like, stick it. All these, like, professors. Maybe they'll show up and, like, you know.
Interviewer 2
But I know she's finally proud of you is what you're saying.
Jiro
Yeah, okay.
Interviewer 1
All it took was an Asics collab. Anyone out there is struggling with your parents, Just give me Asics club. Can you guarantee that this shoe will make you better at table tennis?
Jiro
It'll make you feel better playing table.
Interviewer 2
Oh, and that's what matters, right?
Interviewer 1
What's the deal with. Do you hate when people call it ping pong?
Jiro
No, I like. I call it ping pong all the time. There's no difference.
Interviewer 2
It's not disrespectful.
Jiro
It's not disrespectful. I mean, in China, they say ping pong, like it doesn't matter. Yeah, it's the same thing.
Interviewer 1
What country is the best at ping
Jiro
pong for the past, like, 45 years? Probably China, Korea, Germany, Sweden, Japan. Those are, like, the top five.
Ryan
It's like half the world.
Jiro
Well, no, like, in, like, India's. India's good. They have a huge able tennis community. South America, like, every country, The US Included. Even though they're, like, not, like, phenomenal. They've never had, like, one. Phenomenal probably since.
Interviewer 1
Who's better, LA or New York?
Jiro
Oh, I don't know. The west coast is pretty good. The bigger clubs are on the east Coast, I think, but, like, San Francisco, like, Bay Area has, like, massive, massive clubs and really good players.
Interviewer 1
All right, just one of the. Maybe a second last question. If you could only visit one store in Paris, each of you. Where are you going?
Interviewer 2
Yeah, where are we?
Jiro
Blowing bags, boys. When I lived here, I was really broke, so I wouldn't go any. Doing any shopping, I think.
Interviewer 2
Well, now that you got aces.
Jiro
The first place I came here this week when I landed was to go check out this table tennis store. That's all I did.
Interviewer 2
You buy anything?
Jiro
I bought a few things. They're usually. It's a table tennis store that's based in Estonia that I like, order a lot of stuff from, but they have a store here in Paris.
Interviewer 1
Is Estonia nice at table tennis?
Jiro
I don't know. I don't know why they're there, actually. But they have good tax reason.
Interviewer 1
Probably. It's a tax show. Okay, so you went to a table tennis store. Predictable, Ryan.
Interviewer 2
Wow.
Interviewer 1
What's the best store In Paris right now.
Ryan
I don't think I've ever bought anything here, but.
Interviewer 2
Are you serious?
Ryan
I went. I went to DSM Paris, like, a couple of days ago just to go to the basement. Have you gone to the A press?
Interviewer 1
Is there, like, AC down there or something?
Jiro
Like, it's the cold.
Ryan
It's the coldest room I've ever been in in my life. And it's just.
Interviewer 1
Let's go right now.
Ryan
And there's.
Interviewer 2
And there's, like, a tea.
Ryan
It's sick. It's.
Interviewer 1
There's what?
Ryan
It's a tea room. Like, it's like this installation that they're doing over there, but it's just pitch black and cold. Fire.
Interviewer 2
Damn. All right, I'll see you there, bro.
Ryan
Yeah, I'll see you there.
Interviewer 1
All right. And what is the one restaurant that we got to go to while we're here?
Jiro
Ryan?
Ryan
I've been eating a baguette, like, every meal for the last, like, four days.
Jiro
We were supposed to have a. Like, a team dinner last night, but he was incapable of making a reservation, so.
Interviewer 1
Oh, no, bro, he was too busy. They rejected me, and then they got
Ryan
mad at me for trying to eat at the restaurant even though I ate there two days ago.
Jiro
Yeah, damn.
Interviewer 1
What restaurant was it put them on blast? McDonald's.
Ryan
I. I forgot. I'll send you the link, though, so you can post it.
Interviewer 1
How did they tell you to. Off in the DMs, they're like, we'll
Ryan
call you in 30 minutes and we'll let you know if it's even possible or not.
Interviewer 2
I'm like, bro, no chance.
Interviewer 1
All right, Jiro, you are part French, right?
Jiro
Yes.
Interviewer 1
Can you please tell your countrymen to get. Get it together and get some better air conditioning?
Jiro
I don't understand the deal. I don't understand the deal.
Interviewer 1
This is.
Jiro
They don't do ice. They don't do ac. I don't know what.
Interviewer 2
Not even a cold bev, Dude, I.
Interviewer 1
Yeah, hot orange juice.
Jiro
The hot orange juice is great.
Interviewer 2
Goes great with a baguette.
Jiro
Yeah, I have no words for it.
Ryan
Just dip it in.
Interviewer 1
All right, well, we want to thank you guys for coming out in this heat and hearing these guys talk. Give it up, Ryan and Jiro. All right, thank you, guys.
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Throwing Fits – The Jiro Maestu and Ryan Cua Interview Released: July 16, 2026
In this lively Throwing Fits episode, hosts are joined by Jiro Maestu (founder of Little Tokyo Table Tennis, or LTTT) and Ryan Cua (Global Energy & Collaborations Manager, ASICS Sports Style). The conversation centers on the recent ASICS x LTTT Gel Resolution 5 sneaker—hailed as the finest table tennis shoe ever—while examining sneaker collaborations, table tennis culture, design process, and community. There’s a contagious blend of inside industry insight, personal anecdotes, and banter, set against the backdrop of Paris Fashion Week.
How it Began
Ping Pong Lifers
Shoe Model Selection
Design Approach
Details: The Lacing System
Selecting Collaborators
Misses, Let-downs, Letting Down
Favorite ASICS Collaborations
Why is ASICS So Hot Now?
What’s Next in Sneakers?
LTTT Open Sessions in LA
Gambling & Skill Levels
Full Circle
Table Tennis or Ping Pong?
State of the Sport
Local Recs
Air Conditioning Woes
On Creative DM Collabs
“So is that where all great collaborations happen, just in the DMs?” – Interviewer 1 (02:00)
On Design
“You just pour what you’re feeling into it and like, you just...play with things.” – Jiro (05:34)
On Authentic Collaborations
“The real strongest ones...are the ones that really are passionate.” – Ryan (06:48)
On the ASICS Surge
“I think we make the best product. I’m not paid to say that at all, but I really do think that we do.” – Ryan (09:37)
On Table Tennis Love
“I’m discovering all new kinds of dimensions with table tennis that I didn’t think were possible...” – Jiro (14:25)
On Paris
“They don’t do ice. They don’t do AC. I don’t know what...” – Jiro (18:14)
“Hot orange juice is great.” – Jiro (18:23)
The episode is playful, self-aware, and celebratory, mixing sneakerhead culture, the quirky subculture of table tennis, and the blunt candor Throwing Fits is known for. Both guests provide genuine, jargon-free insights, and the banter—especially on Parisian quirks and the nature of collabs—keeps things welcoming for insiders and newcomers alike.
A must-listen for anyone interested in creative collaborations, sneaker culture, or how a ping pong club from LA is making waves at Paris Fashion Week.