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Podcast Host 1
and ways to save Bon Jono Milano. We are throwing Fits, the self proclaimed only podcast that matters. And tonight we are joined by a costume designer who you might know from the films Good Time, Uncut Gems and we cannot forget her Oscar nominated work in Marty Supreme.
Miyako Belize
Thank you. Hey, this on? Yeah, it's on here.
Podcast Host 1
To disperse her infinite wisdom and dignity into the Armani Archivio project with all of us, please give it up again for Miyako Belize. Miyako.
Miyako Belize
Hi, everyone. How are you? Can you hear me? Okay.
Podcast Host 1
Okay, first, Belize. That's an Italian name.
Miyako Belize
Yes, it is.
Podcast Host 1
How does your Italian side jump out as soon as you touch down in Italia?
Miyako Belize
I mean, many ways. I mean already I speak with my hands, but I feel like here more so. But I don't know. But I think also in the way I dress. Yeah, yeah. Do you guys dress differently when you come to a new place?
Commercial Announcer
Hello.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Miyako Belize
There's something about coming to Italy that you want to just kind of present in this different way.
Podcast Host 1
You have to splash out a little bit.
Podcast Host 2
Did you pack differently?
Miyako Belize
Yes, I packed differently for how so? Just it. Shoes especially. Because in New York we have to see. I don't know, you have to be prepared to be running around all day. I mean here you're running around all day. Yes, but I'm on a lime scooter all day. Yeah, same. I'm in a. I'm on a bag.
Podcast Host 1
Okay, question, question. And maybe a little test for you in front of the aud. What's your favorite pasta?
Podcast Host 2
Sophie's choice.
Podcast Host 1
You thought it'd be hard questions
Miyako Belize
maybe, but. Oh, you know.
Podcast Host 2
Mama, have you had a cacio pepe yet?
Miyako Belize
No, because it's more in the south. I mean, we're in Milan, so I don't really eat it here, but yeah, okay.
Podcast Host 1
If anyone has a good cacio Pepe recognition of Milano, please tell me. I'll go afterwards. So what's up? We're here at Armani Multibenny. Why do you think though? And this is a question that Lawrence and I have kind of grappled with. Why do you think that the classic Armani clothing and images are having such a huge impact right now in the contemporary menswear scene that we're all a part of?
Miyako Belize
I think, just in general, in terms of where we are in fashion and clothing and maybe just having this. I. I don't know. I think we're all kind of looking back at kind of more just like, classic pieces and what kind of translates over generations in time. And so that's something that. Even in my work, what I. What I think about is something that. Like, what's going to transcend over decades? Right. And, like, what do we revisit? What are the similarities? What are the differences of what makes an era or a time different? And so I think that's why there's certain things that, like, we're always resident and, I don't know, like, we resonate with it. We have.
Podcast Host 1
I mean, it's just insane that the images look like they could have been shot yesterday from, like, 1982.
Miyako Belize
Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
Or the show. Or the images that Eli shot could have been from, like, 1977.
Podcast Host 2
Better than half the shot yesterday, if we're being frank, you know.
Miyako Belize
Yeah. Yeah. And I think also I. Yeah. There's, like, this con. This clash right now that's happening where it's like we're kind of realizing that the past is maybe, you know, better than now or, you know, not very bright.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah. Tough times.
Miyako Belize
Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
As a character builder, when you are working on films, what kind of resonates with you? We're talking about, you know, the styling and that we've seen throughout the imagery. What resonates you in the styling of Armani throughout the decades and how it does just, like, remain relevant.
Miyako Belize
I know. I mean, I always look back to Armani. In every project that I do, I somehow implement it, maybe with the exception of Marty, because it was pre Armani, but. But there are still some similarities even within this. Like, this jacket I'm wearing now. It's like, I. I can have. I have an understanding of where this came from in the period of Marty. Right. And so I think that's. It's. It's something that just stands the testament of time.
Podcast Host 1
So Robert Pattinson's echo hoodie. That's Armani somehow. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure there's some.
Podcast Host 2
They share DNA, right?
Miyako Belize
No, I mean, the silhouette.
Podcast Host 1
Yes.
Miyako Belize
90s or, like, more that. Like, early 2000s. Oh. Shape. Even though Armani. I don't know has done a hoodie. But, you know, in that way, if
Podcast Host 1
kids had started wearing echo hoodies, trying to look like our pats in good time, were you ready to take responsibility for that? That would have been tough.
Podcast Host 2
You might need to. Honestly.
Miyako Belize
I know it depends who I see. If I see a guy, you know, they look good. Yeah. If they look good, I'm like, okay, maybe they've seen the movie.
Podcast Host 2
You're welcome.
Miyako Belize
Yeah, yeah, yeah. In New York. Specifically New York. I don't know about outside of New York. You know,
Podcast Host 1
one of the core pillars of Armani throughout the years has always been restraint. And as a costume designer, how do you balance exercising restraint in your work while you're also trying to create these visually memorable characters? It is like a balancing act there.
Miyako Belize
It is a balancing act. It's like you. You have to. I mean, it just takes a lot of just revisiting. So first, it's tough. It. Restraint is almost the hardest thing because you have to pull back and. And it's a process in. In which you kind of. You start and you kind of get all the ideas, you put them all on the table, and then you figure out how. Okay, this is too much. We're saying too many things like, what do we really want to say? And then you. You kind of have to take away through each fitting to kind of. And I think that's the practice that he does.
Podcast Host 2
That's cure curation.
Miyako Belize
Giorgio Armani is a costume designer in my head, and I think that's why he builds worlds and he builds characters and. Yeah. And I think that's why he resonates with so many people, is because. It's. Because he does that.
Podcast Host 2
The fantasy, the world building.
Miyako Belize
Yeah. But also in restraint and, like, because a lot of times, as in a character, you know, it's different than fashion. You're not trying to show out. Right. It's like, how can you kind of actually pull back and be your most authentic self? Or like, everyone gets dressed every day, so it's like, hopefully, you know. I mean. Yeah. And so sometimes not.
Podcast Host 1
Well, yeah, that's.
Miyako Belize
That's okay, though. And that's part of that. And that's a part of your character like, that. Not every day you're dressing full head to toe. So you have to kind of, you
Podcast Host 1
know, my character is a guy that dresses like shit. Yeah.
Podcast Host 2
How hard is it for you to create a costume for a character who's supposed to look bad? Is that even possible for you?
Miyako Belize
Yeah, it is possible. It's something I Think about. Oh, yeah, yeah. We talk about it all the time, Josh and I actually.
Podcast Host 1
What are they, what are they wearing?
Miyako Belize
And that's part of like restrain and pulling back, you know, and it's like, how do you actually make something not look good? And that's part. That's a challenge.
Podcast Host 2
Is that harder or easier than making somebody look good?
Miyako Belize
It's harder, yeah. Yeah, definitely harder.
Podcast Host 1
So you see these two characters. What do you think? Who are we?
Miyako Belize
I don't know. Are you? I don't.
Podcast Host 2
We're enigmas.
Miyako Belize
I mean. Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
How do you. How do you first approach the costume design when you're starting a project? Is it character driven? Is it about the time and place of the setting? Is it something else?
Miyako Belize
It depends on the film. I'm just going to speak to Marty. Yeah, just because that was. There's obviously a multitude of things. It's like you first think of the time period, the location, New York or London or Japan or wherever it is. But then you also. And then you kind of dig into the character. So, I mean, and then all of those influences kind of dictate how this, that person would dress.
Podcast Host 1
So it starts with place.
Miyako Belize
Starts with place. And then the story also, because you got. I mean, and that's the crazy thing about movies is you. You make an outfit based off of what's happening in the script. So like, you know, we opened, for example, with Marty working at the shoe store. So I knew that. So like, okay, so then what's that outfit? You know, like what he wears every day or what's in his closet.
Podcast Host 1
You kind of think about that with that specific example. Is it. You research, you Google, like, what were shoe sellers wear wearing in 1952?
Miyako Belize
Like, I mean, yeah, I had a lot of research on the shoe salesman's in different types of stores. But we also, because I was working with production designer, it's like there's different levels, right? There's different type. What kind of shoe store is it? And having that conversation will then help us figure out the characters. Like, is it a fancy shoe store, like a shitty shoe store, like kind of shit churches? Or is it because they didn't have brands? Like, I mean, kind of.
Podcast Host 1
What was Mr. Mort wearing in that scene?
Miyako Belize
He was wearing a brown suit. I give him a good tie. We had fun.
Podcast Host 1
You didn't want like a crazy rainbow, like.
Miyako Belize
No, it actually was really, I mean, amazing. His hair was my favorite part of his outfit.
Podcast Host 2
Oh yeah. It was all slicked back, right?
Commercial Announcer
Yeah.
Miyako Belize
With the part.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Miyako Belize
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2
How much research goes into A project like Marty supreme, like. And just in terms of the time that you spent the blood, sweat and tears. Years.
Miyako Belize
Really. Yeah, yeah. There's just a lot of aspects. I mean, you could do research for an entire day on shoe salesman's. You know, you get into. These are like, you know, shoe stores, shoe design stores of 1950.
Podcast Host 1
And what's your biggest asset? Like your library card. Are you literally going. And like looking back in old photo books.
Miyako Belize
I know journalism. Weird. I know a lot about random things. I guess that's, you know, it's like, it's up here. It's all up. It's all in here. I don't know how to, you know.
Podcast Host 2
Right.
Miyako Belize
How did it all.
Podcast Host 1
But what's it like up there when to see the characters that you've costumed go crazy viral on social media and become contemporary style icons? Like the characters.
Miyako Belize
The first time it happened was good time.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Miyako Belize
With New York was. It was wild. All of the.
Podcast Host 1
Which outfit.
Miyako Belize
I feel like it was the Chico hoodie. Because Iconic. Kind of easy. Easy to replicate. But then also Howie still see Howie for Halloween.
Podcast Host 1
What, what makes you more proud seeing people dress up as Howie Bling as for Halloween or getting an Oscar nomination?
Miyako Belize
Oh, honestly, it's the streets. I would say the streets.
Podcast Host 2
Okay.
Miyako Belize
Yeah. I would say great answer. Yeah. That's for the culture. And that's like, you know, when a
Podcast Host 2
character does go viral and becomes an icon, is there any part of you that's like, I did my job, or is that just completely like a superfluous. Nice. Nice to have.
Miyako Belize
No, that's how I know that I, I, I did it.
Podcast Host 2
That's the ultimate seal of approval.
Podcast Host 1
Killing it.
Miyako Belize
Yeah. No, but that makes me, I do feel proud of that. And Josh, someone that always is like, if someone dress. He told me first he was like, if someone dresses up as one of your characters, that's how, you know.
Podcast Host 2
Wow.
Podcast Host 1
Really?
Miyako Belize
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2
Cosign.
Podcast Host 1
Are you like, going for virality or.
Miyako Belize
But you don't think about. You can't think about it.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Miyako Belize
No, you can't.
Podcast Host 1
That'd be insane.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
What speak of our past. What was the deal with that? The Robert Pattinson tracksuit that got cut from Good Time, but it did become a legendary meme.
Miyako Belize
That's wild because that photo was from our first fitting ever. I remember it was in November. And that was in his apartment before.
Podcast Host 2
That was his apartment.
Miyako Belize
That was the one that we rented. It was. Yeah. It was his apartment for the time of the film. And that was my first fitting with him. And I don't know how that photo got out.
Podcast Host 2
I thought you posted it because it
Miyako Belize
was like a BTS right Later. Oh, because somehow it surfaced on the Internet for years and years. And then I was like. I would ask Josh, like, where did this photo come? How did it get out in the world?
Podcast Host 1
And was he in a keyhole? Why did he look like that?
Podcast Host 2
He was standing in a whole new way.
Miyako Belize
I honestly, I'm trying to think what was going on with him. He seems not happy to get into the character, probably. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's probably, like, transitioning.
Podcast Host 1
I mean, I doubt he's online, but. Have you ever spoken with RPATS about that meme?
Miyako Belize
No, I actually haven't. And I. I see him pretty often. I saw him recently.
Podcast Host 2
I wonder if he knows it exists. Yeah, he might. He might not even know.
Miyako Belize
Yeah, yeah, he knows. He's not online, but he knows.
Podcast Host 1
He knows. That's how powerful the meme is. It's transcendent onlineness.
Podcast Host 2
Why do you cut the track jacket from that fitting? Because it is, like. I think that's part of why it bec seem iconic and viral. Because he looks awesome and crazy.
Miyako Belize
Whole conversation about track and him being British and like, that not being New York enough.
Podcast Host 1
Interesting.
Miyako Belize
So we kind of. Yeah, it was giving more like European or something Eastern European.
Podcast Host 1
Speaking of another BTS photo that went stupid viral, were you surprised at all at the looks that for Oscar Isaac in scenes from marriage?
Miyako Belize
That was surprising.
Podcast Host 1
And they became the. But it became the gold standard for husbands and boyfriends everywhere who just wanted to look like good boys. I know.
Miyako Belize
I. I love that, though, because when I was dressing, I mean, he's kind of the dream man to dress. And so when I agree, sometimes when I do dress my guys, I kind of think about, okay, how would I be, like, not attracted to them, but, like, how. What's the. What's. Who's the guy that I would want to date?
Podcast Host 2
So your platonic ideal of a boyfriend fit became the gold standard for an entire generation of couples. That's crazy.
Miyako Belize
I mean, I guess. Wow.
Podcast Host 2
That's how you guys get at your job.
Podcast Host 1
She does it all, folks. Do you ever dress like a good boy? You have Biyako to blame.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
What. How do you like to work with actors and actresses on their. On their costume design? Like, is it a collaborative process, or is it just like. Here, put this on?
Miyako Belize
It depends. I want to say it depends on the person, but most of the time, they let you do your thing.
Podcast Host 2
What about.
Miyako Belize
I don't really. It's not really a collaboration, really. It's like, huh, yeah.
Podcast Host 1
Here, go put this on.
Miyako Belize
I think about Oscar, for example, but he was also super excited. Most of the time when they come into the fitting room with me, they're very excited.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Miyako Belize
To just try anything and everything I want to do.
Podcast Host 1
I mean, as. As two guys that experienced maybe their first fitting to a few days ago.
Podcast Host 2
One of the first.
Podcast Host 1
It's awesome.
Podcast Host 2
It's great.
Miyako Belize
No, not a lot of guys, like, really try clothes.
Podcast Host 2
They don't like clothes. Like, we like clothes.
Miyako Belize
Like a 10 minute max. So then you're like, okay, I have to try the best things on it.
Podcast Host 1
They are. They are babies.
Miyako Belize
Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
Tone that tell Timothy.
Miyako Belize
Guys don't like to try clothes on. Well, somebody long period of time.
Podcast Host 1
Somebody that loves clothes. Timothy Chalamet.
Miyako Belize
Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
How receptive was he to the vision that you had for Marty? Marty Mouser and Marty Supreme.
Miyako Belize
He was very open to it and very receptive. I don't think he's ever had a character like this. So he's very. He was very excited for Marty and all of the ideas. We did so many fittings that he's someone who likes to try clothes on. Yeah, we did many fittings. So same as our path.
Podcast Host 1
And was that a collaborative process or with him where he's like talking about this is the character's ambitions and flaws and traits?
Miyako Belize
Not so much the red gloves. Honest. The red gloves were. Yeah. What do you think? Was just playing around because he would come and I think that's part of the process that, you know, you need the time to allow to. To play around with different things. And I think when the more time you have, the more time you are free and you can, you know, feel like yourself.
Podcast Host 1
What's.
Podcast Host 2
What's your reaction when he brings something to the table like that? Are you like, no. Know your place or are you like, okay, we can think about it or is it like instantly it makes sense to you?
Miyako Belize
I always am open to the ideas, but yeah, I'm always open. But then I'm like, okay, let's think about this later and we'll table it. Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
Do that one work though. Do it. Do a lot of actors come to you with like, so I have a. I have ideas. You know, my character is like this. So I'm thinking that maybe he wears
Miyako Belize
this not so much with the men, with the women, more so.
Podcast Host 1
And is that ideas is that they're like, I want to just get me everything from Armani Ario or is it like Oh. I think this character actually, you know, is flawed in this way. So this is how she would dress it.
Miyako Belize
It depends on the character. It really does. I will say a lot of the men do love Armani, though. I think every man that I work with says they only wear Armani.
Podcast Host 2
Really? Wow.
Miyako Belize
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2
Okay.
Miyako Belize
Yeah. My most recent one stars.
Podcast Host 1
They're just like us.
Podcast Host 2
It's aspirational for everyone.
Miyako Belize
Yeah. I think there's something about that, too, I think about. I don't know. There's. Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
And does any of that Armani or anything else ever go maybe missing after a rap?
Miyako Belize
I feel like sometimes you can't plead the Fifth.
Podcast Host 1
We're not in America. Yeah.
Podcast Host 2
It'll magically disappear.
Podcast Host 1
Do you get. Do you get yourself a little costume designer treat?
Miyako Belize
I try to. To be honest. Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
When that's chill or.
Podcast Host 2
No.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah, okay. Okay.
Miyako Belize
I mean, you know, chilling. Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
What about Tyler? Another guy, Todd, the creator that loves clothes. What was it like working with him?
Miyako Belize
Tyler is so fun. He's literally running around in circles, tough to fit, trying on, trying to. So many things. That man loves to try clothes on, but this is his whole world. Party was his whole world. He was so excited. And throughout the whole. Even shooting, he'd be like, oh, my God. He would come up and be like, look at that person's outfit. You know, like, you'd be like, yeah. It was really fun to work with him. It was almost tough because he only has. We had to really. In terms of constraint. Yeah, that one was really tough. He wanted to wear bright. He wanted to be Tyler. Right. And so the. The challenge for him was to kind of scare. Scale back. Like, you're a taxi driver. Is that because you're in a uniform?
Podcast Host 1
Is that because he's his enthusiasm or. It's like he's relatively new to acting, so it's like, no, you're actually playing a character that doesn't really dress like
Miyako Belize
you have a combination of both. Yeah, of course. But I think he was just very excited because he loves vintage clothes.
Podcast Host 1
He must have been stoked. He must have been stoked to dress for that time period.
Miyako Belize
Yeah. It's his dream, and he knows a lot about it. He's actually very knowledgeable. I mean, his clothing that he makes, it's.
Podcast Host 1
Right.
Miyako Belize
50s, inspired.
Podcast Host 2
Did he.
Podcast Host 1
Did he keep anything?
Miyako Belize
No, he wanted his hat. Remember his.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2
He's collecting reference pieces. Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
What. Which character in Marty supreme who wasn't a lead or a big name, had your favorite look in the movie?
Miyako Belize
The one I always think about is Dion.
Podcast Host 2
Oh yeah.
Miyako Belize
Do you guys know who Dion is? He's the one with the pink shirt. It's Marty's close friend. He's Luki Lunchbox. Yes, exactly. And we had to create all of his, you know, because I couldn't find right clothes in his size. And so we built his whole wardrobe.
Podcast Host 1
He's a big boy for people that.
Podcast Host 2
Don't you get to keep that stuff? Cuz it is custom for him.
Miyako Belize
Yes, we did. Because he just to have stuff for him to wear out but his pajamas.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah. Oh, that's right.
Miyako Belize
My favorite outfit because I made the fabric that. Oh, wow. And I had an artist do all the. The cartoon. How much we printed fabric and then we created.
Podcast Host 1
How much of the costume design is custom. Even if it's fabric or, you know, just tailored. But versus like sourced.
Miyako Belize
It just. I mean, it's hard to say. I think on for. For characters like 1 through 20 at most, like 90% of that is made. But then for background which outweighs the principal characters, it's like thousands of people. Those are all sourced. So.
Podcast Host 1
And are you like, are you sourcing them or do you have like.
Miyako Belize
I did because I'm a psychopath. And I went.
Podcast Host 2
They have people to help you with that.
Miyako Belize
I know we had help. No, I have help. But I did a lot of it. I do all my own shopping.
Podcast Host 2
Or like pulling you too hands on, like moving forward. Do you think you're gonna have to maybe delegate?
Miyako Belize
Yeah, I'm going to everyone's archive in the world being like, okay, what do you have? Do you have T shirts? Like one of the things I kept because I knew that no one would care, but I did is collecting the tanks and the T shirts.
Podcast Host 2
Oh, sure.
Miyako Belize
I needed all the shirts. All the T shirts was very important to me. All had to be from 1952 or earlier. And I was like, I went to everyone's archive because they're not cheap and they're really hard to find in good condition. White tees from that time period. The Marlon Brando twice.
Podcast Host 2
Exactly.
Miyako Belize
They're very.
Podcast Host 1
They didn't wear deodorant back then. They all got pig stains.
Miyako Belize
And the tanks, like Marty's tanks are real because I found them dead stock from a collector who had them still wrapped in the package of a pack of six. And so yeah, Jesus. So like things like that, you are crazy. Really into. Yeah, I am crazy.
Podcast Host 2
This is why you got nominated for an Oscar. Because you give a shit. Clearly.
Miyako Belize
Yeah. It bothers me so much when I see films that don't use like the real period correct.
Podcast Host 2
Underwear.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2
That's a no go.
Miyako Belize
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2
Undergarments.
Miyako Belize
No, I mean, I use period correct. I know. Really? Yeah.
Podcast Host 2
That's what she's saying.
Miyako Belize
Yeah. The tank tops. Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
Like the underwear.
Miyako Belize
Underwear had a dealer for everything.
Podcast Host 2
Wow.
Miyako Belize
And that's the thing. She's got a guy. No stuff that. Guy stuff. You guys ever need anything?
Podcast Host 1
She's got an ancient. An ancient underwear guy.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
So even things that are never going to make it on screen, like a background extras, underwear, in your mind, they. They need to have the 1952 draws.
Miyako Belize
They do. Especially the women. No, it was really important to me because the way that clothes were made. So even if they're wearing period correct, you know, like a woman's suit, a lot of it, like the bras especially had they really pointed.
Podcast Host 2
Right.
Miyako Belize
And so. And yeah, all the undergarments. Yeah. For women.
Podcast Host 1
Crazy.
Miyako Belize
We had Lee Avenue. The Hasidic.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Miyako Belize
That's our secret way.
Podcast Host 2
How many people did you dress for this movie in total? Like, like thousand people.
Miyako Belize
No, it was closer to like, I think at the end of the day, like 35.
Podcast Host 2
Oh, okay.
Miyako Belize
4,000.
Podcast Host 2
Oh, oh, three. 500.
Miyako Belize
3,500. Because I did. There was a thousand people just in Japan. That last scene was a thousand people.
Podcast Host 1
That's a lot of old underwear.
Miyako Belize
Lori side was like 400. And then Wembley was a thousand people. 1500 people. And then. Yeah. So I'm just trying to think like
Podcast Host 1
how many did you.
Podcast Host 2
That's crazy.
Podcast Host 1
Did you reuse like. Okay, the Japan scene wrapped. Gather all the underwear, let's wash it, give it to the women.
Miyako Belize
Focus on the underwear here, not the underwear.
Podcast Host 1
Okay.
Miyako Belize
The hosiery and the underwear was a one time use.
Podcast Host 2
Okay.
Miyako Belize
And then we had to.
Podcast Host 1
It's like a bathing suit policy.
Miyako Belize
It is. It's tough unless it's the same person because we also reuse extras. So one extra could have four outfits. They could be on the lower east side. One day they could be in. In the theater the next day they can be Japan the next day. We'd have to like completely changed.
Podcast Host 1
Mr. Morton. Japan.
Miyako Belize
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2
Where were you storing all this stuff? Like what was the.
Miyako Belize
The warehouse situation at a. We work at a close down. We work in midtown, so it's real.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah, I believe you. This was not the answer I was expecting. That's crazy. Yo, your.
Podcast Host 1
Your life is kind of a safy movie.
Miyako Belize
Yeah. Really Movie.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Miyako Belize
It has become a sappy.
Podcast Host 1
Do you take on gigs and jobs based on the script and the, The Timing and the setting. Because I know that, like, Marty supreme sounds like it's your favorite 1950s New York.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
If somebody was like, yo, we want to do the year 3200 and it's on Mars and people are wearing crazy space. You're like, no, that.
Miyako Belize
No. I mean, Blade Runner is one of my favorite films. And the original.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Miyako Belize
And I was really upset about the remake.
Podcast Host 2
The 2049.
Miyako Belize
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2
Because the clothes weren't right to you.
Miyako Belize
Right.
Podcast Host 1
I think you're upset we're not on Mars yet.
Miyako Belize
No.
Podcast Host 2
But.
Miyako Belize
No, I would love.
Podcast Host 2
It's a great movie.
Miyako Belize
No, it's a great film, but I have some things about. No. The cosmos sign. But.
Podcast Host 2
Wow.
Miyako Belize
I would love to do something like that. Yeah. But I do choose films based off of for sure. Era, place, characters.
Podcast Host 1
Also the bag.
Miyako Belize
I honestly don't do films for money. That's like. It's. It's an interesting thing. I. Yeah.
Podcast Host 2
Okay.
Miyako Belize
Films are. It's like Marty did pretty well.
Podcast Host 1
No, it did.
Miyako Belize
Yeah. But I'm not.
Podcast Host 2
Right. You're an artist.
Miyako Belize
I'm the artist.
Podcast Host 2
It's art first, but you're crack second.
Miyako Belize
The art. And that's why I choose.
Podcast Host 1
You're gravitated towards, like, the opportunities that are all already in your interest.
Miyako Belize
Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
Your zone of zones of interest. Was there anything in Marty that maybe didn't go according to plan? Where when you watch it now, you're like, oh, that extra is not wearing
Miyako Belize
the tank top that I told them usually. There always is.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Miyako Belize
But Marty this time, probably there wasn't really anyone that I felt. I think I did. We did. I remember watching it for the first time. I've seen it over five times. I've seen it maybe five to ten times now. And that's a lot.
Podcast Host 2
Join the club.
Miyako Belize
Great movie.
Podcast Host 1
Four stars. Letterbox.
Miyako Belize
Four stars.
Podcast Host 2
Five stars.
Podcast Host 1
Five stars.
Miyako Belize
Five stars. And I remember the first time I usually have. It's really hard for me to watch it the first time. And the first time I'd be like, okay. I think I didn't like. There's something that I. Yeah. I was like, no. Because usually there's like, a few different things or I noticed, you know, it's the first time you see, like, what's been cut, like, who characters.
Podcast Host 2
Right.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Miyako Belize
A lot of. A lot changes after, like, your favorite
Podcast Host 2
outfit could be in a scene that gets cut and you're like, what?
Podcast Host 1
No tracksuit?
Miyako Belize
Yeah. That happens a lot. Yeah. Actually more than, you know.
Podcast Host 1
Do you think people are recognizing and appreciating the job and art form of costume design more and more these days. Like, do you. Do you feel it?
Miyako Belize
I think so. And it kind of goes back to the clothes or some sort of, like, nostalgia about it that I think when you watch a character there, you know, and that's something that I think about when building a character. It's like you have to have this sense of just like. I don't know, nostalgia or like. Yeah, I. Familiarity. Sure. And so I think that when you connect to a character in that way, then that's when. Yeah, I think that.
Podcast Host 2
Is that a recent phenomenon, you think? Because of even the interest in clothes that the average person has and maybe even specifically menswear.
Miyako Belize
It's just our era now.
Podcast Host 1
Okay.
Miyako Belize
Because I think, like, Georgia Armani has done him.
Podcast Host 2
Sure.
Miyako Belize
He's done films.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah, Many films.
Miyako Belize
Very American Gigolo.
Podcast Host 2
Consulted on Casino. Did the suits for Bruce Wayne.
Miyako Belize
That's what I'm saying. And so, you know, I think maybe it's just. And those are the things that I. I'm inspired by that. And so that's.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah. Wolf of Wall Street.
Podcast Host 1
Also on the record, how is the food at the Oscars this year?
Miyako Belize
There's no food.
Podcast Host 2
No. Wait. Really?
Podcast Host 1
Ozempic in Hollywood, Am I right?
Miyako Belize
Yeah, there's no food.
Podcast Host 1
Really?
Miyako Belize
I was so hungry.
Podcast Host 2
Open bar.
Miyako Belize
It's open bar.
Podcast Host 2
Thank God.
Miyako Belize
No food. They give you.
Podcast Host 1
Literally no food.
Miyako Belize
They give you one. So under your seat. I don't know if you guys saw this under your seat.
Podcast Host 1
We've not been in the Oscars.
Miyako Belize
No bag.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Miyako Belize
Skinny popcorn.
Podcast Host 1
That's it. That's it.
Miyako Belize
It's like this big and so. But you leave for the Oscars around 12:30pm yeah. Say you get in the car, it takes an hour, and then you probably. It's not over until 9pm so that literally the entire day you're not eating.
Podcast Host 1
Damn. It's like being in Milano.
Podcast Host 2
You can't bring snack. You can't bring your own snacks. Sneak image.
Miyako Belize
And everyone was telling me to bring my own snacks.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2
What do you bring?
Miyako Belize
And then I didn't bring it.
Podcast Host 2
Oh, you gotta listen.
Podcast Host 1
What are your favorite snacks?
Miyako Belize
I don't know. I like nuts.
Podcast Host 2
Okay.
Miyako Belize
Very. I'm very, like, not that sure.
Podcast Host 2
You're a healthy person.
Miyako Belize
I'm a healthy person. Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
How would you think Skinny Pop paid to be the exclusive food provider at the Oscars?
Miyako Belize
I don't know. But you could only get one bag when you saw people trying to get other people's bags. Hey, hey.
Podcast Host 1
I'll give you a roll if you give me your. My next film if you give me skinny popcorn.
Podcast Host 2
Are you going to eat that? Is that available? Yeah.
Miyako Belize
Well, because Leo, he's in the front row. He can't eat.
Podcast Host 2
Oh. He doesn't even get skinny pop.
Miyako Belize
Right. He gets. Eat it, Kylie. There.
Podcast Host 1
Poor Leo.
Podcast Host 2
Poor stars are starving.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah. M. How would you describe your own personal style?
Miyako Belize
Oh, that's a tough one. And it's always changing.
Podcast Host 1
What is it today? Beautiful.
Miyako Belize
I feel like in that I think I've. I've become a little more lady. Or maybe I used to be more. I mean, I feel like I used to be more menswear. Tailored, inspired.
Podcast Host 2
Y.
Miyako Belize
Whereas lately I've become more, I guess, more feminine.
Podcast Host 1
Okay.
Miyako Belize
You know, but also always New York and always. I don't like what describes New York, but, you know, I guess it's like grit.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2
Hustle, determination.
Miyako Belize
Shoes. I think about shoes. No, I just think about.
Podcast Host 2
How many pairs of shoes do you own?
Miyako Belize
A lot. I have an entire closet just shoes.
Podcast Host 1
You know, we work.
Miyako Belize
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2
In midtown.
Miyako Belize
Shoes are very important.
Podcast Host 1
How frequently does your style change up? Like, is that every few months? Is that every weak.
Miyako Belize
In which case it's been evolving over the years. I don't think it's changed, though, that much. Like I was. That I wore five years ago. It doesn't. It hasn't changed really. It's just different versions of myself.
Podcast Host 1
Okay. Is there a version that you look back on now and cringe?
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Miyako Belize
Yeah, I think we all feel that way. What.
Podcast Host 1
What is it specifically to you? What is it?
Miyako Belize
I don't know. I want to say it's, you know, when you're younger and you're trying to figure out and you're, like, experimenting.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah, yeah.
Miyako Belize
Probably those old. Those old.
Podcast Host 1
Okay.
Podcast Host 2
The throwback photos are not hitting like they.
Miyako Belize
You thought they were so happy we didn't have something.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah. Don't go to adult sisters. Don't go to our tagged photos. Miyako, last question. What single piece from the Armani Archivio collection are you gonna beg the good folks at Armani to let you take home as a little treat?
Miyako Belize
This jacket I'm wearing right now.
Podcast Host 2
That's the one.
Miyako Belize
I was actually wearing a jacket very similar. Similar that I made, like, years ago.
Podcast Host 2
Oh, wow.
Miyako Belize
Very similar to this. It's based off of 1950s, like, men's work. Work. Jack.
Podcast Host 2
But that's the one.
Miyako Belize
But this is Yako approved. Yeah.
Podcast Host 2
Okay. If Armani is listening to anyone.
Miyako Belize
Yeah. This is the one she asked for.
Podcast Host 1
She's gonna walk out with it. Pop the taco. Miyako, thank you for joining us here at Armani. Guys, give it up for Miyako, please. All right, I think that's it. I think it's just we're gonna be hanging out and having some drinks, so, yeah, we'll see you guys with some drinks.
Podcast Host 2
Thanks again.
Podcast Host 1
Thank you, guys.
Podcast Host 2
Appreciate y'.
Podcast Host 1
All.
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Date: April 29, 2026
In this engaging episode, the Throwing Fits hosts sit down with acclaimed costume designer Miyako Bellizzi, best known for her work on "Good Time," "Uncut Gems," and her Oscar-nominated contributions to "Marty Supreme." Speaking live in Milan at the Armani Archivio event, Miyako shares insights into her design process, the cultural resonance of classic Armani, the challenges of period-accurate costuming, and what it's like to watch her characters become viral style icons.
On why Armani resonates today:
"We're all kind of looking back at...classic pieces and what translates over generations in time." (02:41) — Miyako
On restraint in design:
"Restraint is almost the hardest thing because you have to pull back...and then you figure out how—okay, this is too much, we're saying too many things—what do we really want to say?" (05:41) — Miyako
On cultural impact:
"Honestly, it's the streets...I would say the streets [make me prouder than an Oscar nomination]." (10:41) — Miyako
On sourcing period-correct garments:
"All the T-shirts had to be from 1952 or earlier...I went to everyone’s archive." (20:04) — Miyako
On actor collaboration:
"Most of the time, they let you do your thing." (13:49) — Miyako
On her personal style:
"It’s always changing...I guess it's like grit...[and] shoes are very important." (27:53, 28:35) — Miyako
On Oscar night food:
"There's no food...They give you one...skinny popcorn." (26:30) — Miyako
Miyako Bellizzi blends obsessive attention to historical detail with a deep understanding of how costume shapes character and cultural perception. She's as likely to be found trawling archives for 1950s tank tops as she is to be influencing millions through on-screen style moments and viral memes. With her grounding in both art and utility, Miyako embodies the spirit of Armani—timeless, restrained, and quietly revolutionary.
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For further insights, see Throwing Fits on Patreon or explore the Armani Archivio project discussed in this episode.