The Sebastian Jean Interview with Throwing Fits

Summary

Throwing Fits: The Sebastian Jean Interview

Date: July 27, 2026
Podcast: Throwing Fits
Guest: Sebastian Jean (Fashion Director, Highsnobiety)

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Overview

In this engaging episode, the Throwing Fits hosts sit down with Sebastian Jean, Fashion Director at Highsnobiety, to explore his career trajectory, creative direction, personal style philosophy, and insider views on contemporary menswear. The conversation weaves through Sebastian's career beginnings, the “Noah Johnson era” at Highsnobiety, styling A-listers, fashion industry trends and faux pas, the relentless evolution of menswear, and a candid look at both the personal and professional sides of a style leader.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

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Fit Check & Personal Style Routine

[01:50 – 07:12]

• Sebastian's Fit Check:

  • WRL cap ("Baseball caps, kinda ranger vibes, patriotic without being too corny" [01:56])
  • Vori T-shirt ("I love the Vori shit" [02:18])
  • The Row denim ("I wear these every day. I daily" [03:16])
  • Loewe reversible belt ("Love the navy side" [04:20])
  • Nike Air Max 95s, OG Neons
  • Ray Ban Wayfarers
  • Whoop wearable ("It's not charged, but I wear it for the look, can't find the charger" [04:50])
  • Brady brand underwear

• Style Functionality:

  • On planning fits: Checks AC temperature before going anywhere ("I really do because I really hate being somewhere when I'm cold" [07:18])
  • Keeps a “player layer” (old Nike hoodie) at work for temp swings.

"These jeans gotta get the cost per wear as low as possible." – Co-host [03:18]

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Early Career & Fashion Editorial Work

[08:06 – 10:08]

• Started freelance writing for Grailed blog (“Dry Clean Only”) in college, spending the byline money on sneakers and Hennessy.
• Recalls doing packing list posts and covering early Jil Sander stories, reflecting on a looser era of menswear writing.
• Relationship with Lawrence as editor: “I was just like, yo, if these people are paying me to like write shit... and that can like fund my sneaker habit. It’s whatever you want.” – Sebastian [08:33]

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Highsnobiety and the Noah Johnson Era

[10:08 – 12:48]

• Sebastian praises the substance and packaged authority Noah brings as Editor-in-Chief:
  “He can really package really well… you can read something and be like, okay, there’s real substance there.” [10:46]
• Funny/awkward details: Noah's "no shorts in the office" policy, office roasting for knees-out fits.
• “If you’re stepping into Noah’s office, 100% pants.” – Sebastian [11:38]

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Highsnob Parties & Company Culture

[12:01 – 15:23]

• Discusses memorable holiday and Paris Fashion Week parties; the politics of party guest lists.
• On events: “You gotta keep that grounded, you know, can't all be a bunch of fashion…” – Sebastian [14:29]
• Regarding party invites: avoids inviting people so he's not “tethered” to an event.

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Creative Direction & Styling at Highsnobiety

[17:04 – 21:20]

• Sebastian breaks down his multi-faceted role: editorial, styling, creative vision, curation, and yes—funny hats.
• “I style a lot of our shoots, a lot of the town stories… putting a lot of funny hats on people.” [17:11]
• Loves inserting personality in styling, especially through “funky” hats and accessories.

“If you have a wacky hat, you can maybe do wacky shoes and you kind of sandwich it a little bit more.” [19:01]

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On Working With Celebrities & Models

[21:20 – 29:40]

• Pushes celebs into new style territory, favoring collaboration and experimenting with their comfort zones.
• Detailed anecdotes:
  • Michael Olise styled for a Dior/JW Anderson look shot by Juergen Teller, despite initial resistance ("Ended up being one of the best photos, Teller's got that up in Berlin" [22:08]).
  • Lil Yachty was at first hesitant about styling, then opened up: "We got to set, he sees the racks, turns to me, he's like, alright, you know what you’re talking about.” [27:30]
  • On models: “Regular models just have to wear whatever the f*ck you tell them… but I try to make sure it feels real and organic to them.” [23:53]

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Trends & The State of Menswear

[39:39 – 67:15]

• Styling Trends He's Over:

  • The "jean short, tank top, loafer, white sock, shirt over" uniform—“Silverlake mechanic / explore page core” [40:01]
  • Head-to-toe Chrome Hearts looks (“Shortcut to people just assuming you're stylish because you're rich” [40:31])
  • Open-toe shoes, flip-flops in the city—serious pet peeve (“I don't want to see anyone's toes. The foot hygiene is not really lining up…” [44:30])

• On Flip-Flop Culture:

  • “People are seeing flip flops as this subversive item that’s gonna, like, make or break their shitty outfit… and it's definitely not that when everyone is on the same mindset." [67:08]

• Over-Styling & Personal Style:

  • Warns against “wearing everything you own”: “There’s definitely an over styling bug going around.” [49:50]
  • The importance of dressing for comfort and authenticity:
    “Ultimately, for me, it’s always about comfort. When it wasn’t, that’s when I felt the worst.” [50:23]
  • Less is more: Inspired by stylists who keep it minimal and uniform but with a unique detail (“You kind of have to, like, dial that back and be more of, like, a palate cleanser.” [59:33])

• Outlook for Fall 2026 / Future of Menswear:

  • Predicts a return to “cool mall brands” (Calvin Klein, Ralph Lauren, etc.) and sensible, functional pieces
  • High–low/outfit tension is being talked about as “tension” rather than just mixing high/low (“If I was a talking head on IG… has to be this highfalutin intellectualization of tension in an outfit” [66:33])

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Brands, Shopping & Style Philosophy

[69:21 – 73:47]

• Small/Emerging Brands:
  • Shouts out Emily Dawn Long for community-building and having fun with fashion ("MVP of Paris Fashion Week, the queen..." [69:33])
• Favorite Brands to Wear:
  • CDG universe, Stein, Ralph Lauren, satisfy, District Vision (“I love a good technical fashion.” [72:57])
• Personal Shopping Habits:
  • Doesn’t buy fashion sneakers at retail; prefers to wait for sales or sample sales ("You know this shit will end up at some sample sale for like a fraction" [36:41])
  • Spends on experiences and collectible pieces (e.g., Prada American Cups x Damien Hirst) and likes a balanced high/low mix

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Wedding Plans, Adulthood, & Money

[75:10 – 82:24]

• Wedding:

  • Venue: Upstate NY; food is farm-to-table, aiming for small/intimate size.
  • Considers Ralph Lauren for the wedding fit; rehearsal dinner could be JW Anderson or Celine.
  • “Hardest part? The guest list. …everyone you know is in a relationship. Plus ones get heavy.” [76:51]

• Spending & Adulthood:

  • Planning big purchases (e.g., vintage Range Rover, Porsche Cayenne), is now more responsible after youthful financial mistakes.
  • Cheap about subscriptions & admin stuff (“I like to get as gifts... like my fiancée paid for my global entry…” [82:40])
  • Watches: Wants a special timepiece for the wedding—looking at Patek Philippe or FP Journe.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

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On Style Uniformity

"There’s a uniform and then there’s also a cosplay uniform... I think that you can like do some chill shit... but it doesn’t give the vibe that, oh, you're trying too hard to be this fashion guy." – Sebastian [48:15]

On Brand Cycles and Trends

“I think it's going to get to a point where like, everyone realizes that all this kind of cool mall brand kind of shit is really good.” – Sebastian [55:31]

On Comfort and Self-Awareness

“When it wasn’t about comfort, that’s when I felt the worst—where I was like, damn, I need to go home and change because I didn't leave the crib as myself.” – Sebastian [50:23]

On Menswear’s Endless Cycle

"Whoever’s in charge at the house’s shifts, I think the status quo shifts... we’re not really seeing Tekken characters anymore..." [54:44] “The real personal style... is when you actually go on a journey. Not just buying all this shit, but going out, figuring it out for yourself.” [68:02]

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Important Timestamps

• Fit Check, Early Style Habits: [01:50 – 07:12]
• Editorial Career Launch / Grailed: [08:06 – 10:08]
• Highsnobiety / Noah Johnson’s Vibe: [10:08 – 12:48]
• Company Parties & Office Dynamics: [12:01 – 15:23]
• Styling Celebrities/Models: [17:04 – 29:40]
• Trends to Avoid / Chrome Hearts, Flip Flops: [39:39 – 49:57]
• Personal Style, Fashion Philosophy: [49:50 – 67:15]
• Favorite/Emerging Brands: [69:21 – 73:47]
• Wedding / Big Purchases / Adulthood: [75:10 – 82:24]
• Constructive Criticism & Podcast Wrap-Up: [83:42 – END]

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Final Thoughts

Sebastian Jean offers a measured, insider perspective on both menswear’s cycles of hype and the importance of real, personal exploration of style. His approach blends a critical eye with humor, honesty about the pitfalls of the industry, and practical wisdom for both seasoned enthusiasts and those just getting started. For those looking for authenticity, balance, and thoughtful insight, this episode delivers—plus plenty of references to silly hats, flip-flops, and the endless quest for the perfect jeans.

“Less is more. Be yourself. If you got the space, let it simmer in your closet. Figure it out over time.” — Sebastian Jean [49:17 & 48:15]

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Connect with Sebastian

Instagram: @subjective
Upcoming: Highsnobiety September Issue [85:06]

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End of Summary

Transcript

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[Co-host 2]

Our guest this week was born to put that shit on. He is literally named after jeans. He's administering the aesthetics and controlling the creative across high somebody's pages and. And channels. And I don't know if he's verse pulling all these tops and bottoms, but you know, he's valid how he's running these sets. He took some time off from putting together more looks than an optometrist to step into our studio and took time off from not planning his wedding to rip a pod with the boys here to chat about everything from smoking cigs with Rash Simmons to the small brands he's fucking with to horrible wedding swag. The fashion director of high somebody, Sebastian. Jean. Sebastian. Hello. Are you.

[Sebastian Jean]

What up, guys? Thank you for having me.

[Co-host 2]

When you're in France and they call you Sebastian Jean.

[Sebastian Jean]

I do the Jean thing when I'm in France. Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Really?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Come on. It's. It's regionally specific. Specific.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. Extremely specific. You do that in Montreal as well?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, if it's French speaking. I mean, I'll run it up.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, yo, this guy's valid.

[Sebastian Jean]

Even go like Sebastian.

[Co-host 2]

I was gonna say your whole name is.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, the whole joint.

[Co-host 2]

Where's, like your. Where's. Where's your family?

[Sebastian Jean]

Both my parents are from Haiti.

[Co-host 2]

Okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

There you go.

[Sebastian Jean]

Thanks.

[Co-host 2]

So if you're in Haiti, go Sebastian Joel.

[Sebastian Jean]

Well, I haven't been there in a while, but if I was. Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Okay.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. What's up, dude? How are you? Good to see you.

[Sebastian Jean]

Good. How you guys doing?

[Co-host 2]

Thanks for coming by. Yeah, we appreciate it.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. Let's do a quick fit check. You are a very stylish guy. I would love to know personally what you are wearing to the podcast today, bud.

[Sebastian Jean]

Top to bottom, WRL cap. Love these baseball caps.

[Co-host 1]

Is that like an astronaut thing?

[Sebastian Jean]

It's like some like, you know, ranger.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

It's like being patriotic without being like, ah, I look. Thank you for your service.

[Co-host 2]

250, baby. Wait, is it vintage?

[Sebastian Jean]

Nah. But it looks hell of inches, right?

[Co-host 2]

It has a nice fade on it.

[Sebastian Jean]

It does. These are great Vori T shirt.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, athletic. Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

I love the Vori shit.

[Co-host 2]

Really?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, really good.

[Co-host 1]

You're on your athleisure shit these days.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yo, shout out Miles. Miles just went over there from gq. Miles Pope.

[Co-host 2]

To do what he.

[Sebastian Jean]

I forget the title, but it's like some lit. So they're gonna like get more into the fashion. So.

[Co-host 2]

Okay, how fashion are we talking?

[Sebastian Jean]

I think he's just gonna be really helping them with like what it sounds like kind of celebrity stuff, directional things maybe employing a little bit of like

[Co-host 2]

editorial vision, really done on the pod.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. From the.

[Sebastian Jean]

From.

[Co-host 1]

From airport lounges to the Runway.

[Sebastian Jean]

Facts exactly.

[Co-host 1]

You are up.

[Co-host 2]

They were pioneers of nil sponsorship.

[Co-host 1]

Really? With.

[Co-host 2]

Literally.

[Co-host 1]

She was the first.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, you're right.

[Co-host 2]

They gave her like the fattest contract of like any college athlete ever.

[Co-host 1]

The fattest contract for the fattest ass.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, come on.

[Co-host 1]

I said that's a.

[Co-host 2]

That's a world class athlete.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, totally. All right, moving on down.

[Host/Ad Reader]

Jeans.

[Sebastian Jean]

Denim is the row. These are the Ross jeans. Love them.

[Co-host 2]

How many days a week are you wearing these?

[Sebastian Jean]

I wear these every day. I daily.

[Co-host 1]

These jeans gotta get the cost per wear as low as possible.

[Sebastian Jean]

I mean, they look like Levi's, but they also don't look like Levi's to the trained eyes.

[Co-host 2]

How much row do you own?

[Sebastian Jean]

Just these.

[Co-host 2]

Just the one?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Okay.

[Co-host 1]

You know, you pull your whole budget on one pair.

[Sebastian Jean]

The whole budget on the jeans, but, you know, make them work.

[Co-host 2]

But they're perfect.

[Sebastian Jean]

Perfect.

[Co-host 2]

Just had to have gotta know.

[Sebastian Jean]

I get compliments.

[Co-host 1]

You bought those full retail?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, Full retail, yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Who gives you compliments in your jeans?

[Sebastian Jean]

Well, I've married people who know.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, oh, People who know People can ID those as.

[Sebastian Jean]

So funny enough, I was at a party in Paris. It's past fashion week, and I was having dinner with cc. Shout out cc. And we're sitting across from each other. He's like, yo, bro, where are your jeans from? And I was like, oh, the rock. He's like, oh, these are Ross jeans. Because he kind of just noticed by how they laid. And it's just like, if you get it, you get it.

[Co-host 1]

Sure. Right, right.

[Co-host 2]

Are there any identifying marks on them?

[Sebastian Jean]

Like nothing, bro. Hardware stitching on the back. Nada.

[Co-host 2]

Okay. I mean, you're covering up with the Louisville.

[Sebastian Jean]

Oh, the Louisville Facts Reversible Loewe belt that I got out at Luke's la. Shout out to Luke.

[Co-host 1]

Wait, what's the other side?

[Sebastian Jean]

It's navy on one side and it's black on the other, but I love the navy side for some odd ass.

[Co-host 2]

And the buckles on.

[Sebastian Jean]

And the buckle.

[Co-host 2]

The buckles buckled. How does that work?

[Sebastian Jean]

Well, you can take it off and then you flip the belt and you put it back on. And the kicks. Kicks are Nike Air Max 95s, the Neon OGs, another daily drive that I love.

[Co-host 2]

And the shades.

[Sebastian Jean]

Shades are Ray Ban. I love a good Wayfarer.

[Co-host 2]

And the whoop.

[Sebastian Jean]

I got my hoop on. It's not charged.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, so it's just for the look,

[Sebastian Jean]

I can't find the charger, bro. The past, like a 18 hours have been not logged.

[Co-host 1]

You're sound.

[Sebastian Jean]

You're.

[Co-host 1]

You're off. You're off it. You're off the grid.

[Co-host 2]

Were you a hoopsman before? Were you, like.

[Sebastian Jean]

No, it's been. It's maybe been two months.

[Co-host 2]

And how were you, like, obsessed with, like, tracking your sleep and whatnot?

[Sebastian Jean]

So I got it for a fashion month because I was traveling a bunch. Sleeping, like, drinking, hanging out. Not or anything a lot, but enough to, like, want to make sure that I could, like, keep myself honest and, like, you know, not be sick when I got back to New York. So it was helpful for that. It'll give you, like, a whole routine. It's like, all right, like, I'm landing. I'm leaving JFK at 3pm I landed CDG at like, 11am like, give me, like, you know, prescribe me like, a sleep schedule for the week and the works up my. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it works if you, like, listen to it.

[Co-host 2]

Does it, like, guilt you? It's like, hey, man, you've been drinking a lot.

[Co-host 1]

Put the spritzes down.

[Co-host 2]

I mean, take the wrong path.

[Sebastian Jean]

But, I mean, I don't get too crazy about the sleep score. Shit, what a sleep score. Look, like Pascal is pretty good. I think I got a 93 the last time this was charged.

[Co-host 1]

How was it? Hon.

[Co-host 2]

How was it during Fashion Week?

[Sebastian Jean]

Was tough, but the nights that I drank, my REM sleep was lower, of course. Right? So the issue is, like, you can get little sleep, but if you're getting good enough deep sleep. If you're sleeping for four, four hours and it's deep sleep, you'll wake up the next day pretty straight.

[Co-host 2]

Okay, so.

[Co-host 1]

But now we're just doing it for the look.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Until I find the charger. Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Do you wear an actual watch? A non wearable too.

[Sebastian Jean]

So I, you know, I sold all my watches. I sold my watches top of this year.

[Co-host 1]

Why?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, for. Well, partially because I wasn't feeling them anymore. And then also, like, weddings are expensive. So true. I gotta liquidate, you know.

[Co-host 2]

Damn. The market has spoken.

[Co-host 1]

Liquidate your jewelry so that you can get jewelry for.

[Sebastian Jean]

Exactly. Her ring was done, but the venue was like a killer.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host 2]

But what are the panties?

[Sebastian Jean]

Pennies.

[Co-host 2]

Oh.

[Sebastian Jean]

Oh, these are. These are my Tom Brady draws.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, Brady brands. Brady yo salute, dude. Previous advertiser of this pod. Advertiser?

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, I think so. The greatest brand was greatest wrestler of all time. Yeah, whatever he's gonna do.

[Sebastian Jean]

Honestly, like, you know, they're good. Really?

[Co-host 1]

I wear them all the time.

[Sebastian Jean]

Really good.

[Co-host 2]

Respect. All right, relax, guys. All right, just fit check complete. Yeah. Oh, before we get to the mean pinnacles of the only podcast managers, quick question for you. I respect this.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Do you always call ahead and check on the AC status to like figure out what you should wear?

[Sebastian Jean]

I really do because I really hate being somewhere when I'm like cold because I don't really like ac.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, it's about being chilly.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Like our office like, is like, sometimes it's just too cold and it's like I can't get anything done. It's like I have like a hoodie on my chair. So I was like, you know what? Like, do I need to bring a little player layer?

[Co-host 2]

That's what I like to call player layer layer. What's the buddy, you keep.

[Sebastian Jean]

The hoodie that's on my chair is just like a old Nike hoodie.

[Co-host 2]

Okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

You know. Okay. So you were thinking like, should I bring that over?

[Sebastian Jean]

Should I get that or like a thermal or something?

[Co-host 1]

What's the review? How are we doing?

[Sebastian Jean]

No, this is perfect.

[Co-host 1]

You don't need a player layer.

[Sebastian Jean]

Nah.

[Co-host 1]

Because we got a whole rack over there.

[Sebastian Jean]

It's heavily T shirt weather in here, so I'm very pleased.

[Co-host 2]

All right, good. All right. All right, let's get into me. Just to start things off, you did some way back in the day, you did some freelance contributing to Grails blog.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yes, I did.

[Co-host 2]

Which is called dry clean only.

[Sebastian Jean]

Very cool.

[Co-host 2]

How is Lawrence as an editor?

[Sebastian Jean]

Lawrence was great. You know, I was. This was my senior year in college and I couldn't have been happier to be getting paid to write my bullshit, you know, talk some shit.

[Co-host 2]

Did you have a heavy hand or was he like.

[Co-host 1]

Can I just say I have zero recollection of this? I don't understand. I don't think I read a single word, honestly.

[Sebastian Jean]

I mean, this is like, I didn't have a whole lot of journalistic integrity then. I was just like, yo, if these people are paying me to like write shit.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

And that can like fund my like sneaker habit. It.

[Co-host 1]

That's whatever you want. That's where the, the byline bread was going is Kicks.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, kicks Hennessy.

[Co-host 1]

Hell yeah, dude.

[Sebastian Jean]

A little like.

[Co-host 1]

So I was aiding and abetting your lifestyle a little bit.

[Sebastian Jean]

A little bit.

[Co-host 1]

Damn. Okay.

[Co-host 2]

I was like, what do you remember?

[Sebastian Jean]

I did a piece on Luke and Lucy when they had gone to Joe Sander.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, nice.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, the Myers.

[Host/Ad Reader]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

I did a packing list, like how to pack for like a three day trip.

[Co-host 1]

Like, what were the big takeaways there?

[Co-host 2]

It was really just more yo Rap Adidas, yo.

[Co-host 1]

Hennessy on the left side, sneakers on the right side.

[Sebastian Jean]

No Hennessy, because you can't take that on the carry on. Over 100ml. But it was mainly like how to like actually like physically roll and pack your clothes to like optimize like space.

[Co-host 1]

Okay, so written YouTube tutorial.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, exactly, exactly.

[Co-host 1]

High level shit.

[Sebastian Jean]

But someone pulled in some great like graphics.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, really?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

So yeah, no idea.

[Sebastian Jean]

Shout out.

[Co-host 2]

So Lawrence is an editor. How would you grade him? Yeah, yeah. All right.

[Sebastian Jean]

I'm gonna dubbed a couple of ideas and that took those to heart a couple times. Like, damn, I thought, I really like. Wait, like words. Yeah. You're like, ah, maybe this doesn't really work. Or, you know, I was like, okay, I get it.

[Co-host 1]

I was polite about it.

[Co-host 2]

What were they?

[Sebastian Jean]

I don't even remember. This is like 10 years ago.

[Co-host 1]

That's how bad they were, bro.

[Co-host 2]

The drip on the swag isn't.

[Co-host 1]

No, no, drip, drip wasn't probably in the lexicon. The sauce on the swag isn't.

[Co-host 2]

Virgil Levels. Next up.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, John's was definitely being.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, dude. Yeah, for sure. A different time, folks.

[Sebastian Jean]

It was a different John's era.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Well, let's fast forward a little bit in your career. You are now the fashion director of high society. And we are still relatively new in this current era at high society with Noah Johnson at the helm 1 1/2 years into the Noah Johnson era. How would you grade his performance so far?

[Sebastian Jean]

Shout out. New Easy. I think it's been great. I think one of my favorite things about Noah is that like, he has this position of like authority figure. In terms of like menswear. And then he's also a good writer and he can like, really package really well. And I think that's important to have in addition to like all our hot takes and ideas and all this other stuff. Is that like, you know, you can read something and be like, oh, okay,

[Co-host 1]

yeah, there's real substance there.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. And I think that's like, been a really great thing to have. Not that we didn't have it before, but I think Noah's like, really strengthened that in a nice way.

[Co-host 2]

What's his vibe like as a boss?

[Sebastian Jean]

No shorts in the office, which I'm cool with because I don't want to wear shorts in the office in the summertime. Yeah, exactly.

[Co-host 2]

Wait, for real?

[Co-host 1]

Spend all your shorts money on one pair of jeans?

[Co-host 2]

If someone shows up to office in

[Sebastian Jean]

shorts, I mean, like in the editorial team, like, you know, you don't want to get caught in the morning meeting and you got, you got your knees out like, you just get roasted. Paris Fashion Week is fine, but.

[Co-host 1]

Well, I would hope so you're not in the office at that point. He can't be. You can't have dominion over what you're wearing in the world.

[Co-host 2]

It sounds like some fucking fascism. So if someone shows up, what do they do? Send them to a fashion closet? Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

Maybe I'm the guy that you got to come see to get some pants. Least you Capri.

[Co-host 2]

So as climate change worsens and as we have record breaking temperatures and flooding and everything, people have to still wear

[Sebastian Jean]

pants at high 100% if you're stepping into Noah's office.

[Co-host 1]

What if they're Evan Kanori shorts? Is there a loophole?

[Sebastian Jean]

Evan make shorts?

[Co-host 1]

Probably.

[Sebastian Jean]

I don't think Evan makes shorts.

[Co-host 2]

Really?

[Co-host 1]

Dead ass.

[Sebastian Jean]

I don't know if Evan has shorts.

[Co-host 2]

I don't think so.

[Sebastian Jean]

I try to check that, but.

[Co-host 2]

Has Noah started letting you attend the highest of body parties?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yes, yes. I've been blessed with entry.

[Co-host 2]

I mean, to be clear.

[Sebastian Jean]

But it was a little bit fault.

[Co-host 2]

How was that your fault?

[Sebastian Jean]

I didn't press, you know, I was like kind of being nonchalant about the shit. I was like, ah, it's cool, whatever, you know.

[Co-host 2]

All right, so just for context, High Stuff had a holiday party at Bridges restaurant. We did it first with thistles.

[Sebastian Jean]

Thistles.

[Co-host 2]

And it was pretty brick outside.

[Sebastian Jean]

It was freezing.

[Co-host 2]

It's freezing. And there's a line at the club and. Or to get into the club, AKA the restaurant. Restaurant, yeah. And it was like at capacity. And they're like, nah, we're not letting anybody in. And I was like, yo, this is the fashion directive. High stability.

[Co-host 1]

You said that through the glass. You pointed through the window.

[Sebastian Jean]

No, to the people there.

[Co-host 2]

There were a couple people outside. All the people outside. We just like, kind of like trauma bonded and like, hung out. Became friends.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

And then if you know bridges, there's like a window at the very front where like. Like a hangout area at the bar. And a lot of people, you can see everything. Everyone see everything. And we're like knocking and shit and people are ignoring us. And later on after I got in there, like, yeah, we're calling that place, that space the zone of interest. You could see all the suffering happening and hear it, but we were just

[Sebastian Jean]

kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Turning a blind eye at the open bar.

[Sebastian Jean]

But I've since made it into our party.

[Co-host 1]

So you're not too cool for school, moving forward.

[Sebastian Jean]

I don't know.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, that's also. That's a bad look.

[Sebastian Jean]

PR too. So they know me.

[Co-host 2]

I actually respected it more than you were. Like, you know what? I'm not. I don't feel like being the guy that's like, yo, do you know who I am?

[Sebastian Jean]

I'm just, you know, it's like, let me. I respect a little vile on the

[Co-host 1]

sidewalk, but it's like your holiday party. It's not like.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, not.

[Co-host 1]

He's not like, like, like maneuvering like some whack ass influence. Like, yo, I'm literally part of the team.

[Sebastian Jean]

I don't know.

[Co-host 1]

You're a bigger man than me.

[Co-host 2]

Holiday. It was a holiday.

[Co-host 1]

Whatever.

[Co-host 2]

Holiday party.

[Co-host 1]

Sure.

[Sebastian Jean]

Next time I'll make more of a fuss if that happens, but okay, you know.

[Co-host 2]

How was the high Sordidity party? Paris Fashion Week.

[Sebastian Jean]

That was cool. It was good. I had never that space, but it was good.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, it was mad far.

[Co-host 2]

Palladium.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, Palladium Bus Palladium.

[Co-host 2]

Legendary club.

[Host/Ad Reader]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Just reopened.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yep.

[Co-host 2]

What makes a high somebody high somebody party? A good high snow party.

[Sebastian Jean]

Definitely. Guest list is a big thing that we like to curate. Music is also great too.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

No K did the party that was at Salone.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. After his cover.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Facts. Yeah. Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

But when you're curating guest lists, like, do you have homies? Like, more civilian, like style homies hit you up and be like, yo, let me. And what do you. What do you do?

[Sebastian Jean]

Like, my boys and high school? Like, at least two or three of them will be in the building because.

[Co-host 1]

Okay, yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

You kind of have to, you know, you got to keep that grounded, you know, can all be a bunch of fashion.

[Co-host 1]

Sure.

[Co-host 2]

Well, have you started dubbing people and

[Sebastian Jean]

be like, honestly, so when we do

[Co-host 2]

man of the year parties, maybe down

[Sebastian Jean]

the road, I usually don't even invite. Invite people anymore because I don't want to have to deal with like the.

[Co-host 1]

Yes.

[Sebastian Jean]

Also don't want to be out. So if I invite you and like I'm done. But like you haven't gotten here yet, then like that. That tethers me to the event.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

So I'm like, no, that.

[Co-host 2]

How long do you put in an appearance before it's night night time?

[Host/Ad Reader]

O.

[Sebastian Jean]

Depends on how I'm feeling, how the

[Co-host 1]

week was, what's the average?

[Sebastian Jean]

If it's popping, I'll stay till 2am that's pretty late. That's, you know. Yeah. But if it's like not some like a vibe, that's not it. I'm like, all right. Like I do a loop. Say what up? Hanging out. Hang out outside, which I often.

[Co-host 1]

Right, right, right. Pretend to be a man of the people, etc.

[Sebastian Jean]

Exactly.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, sometimes that's better.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yes, 100%.

[Co-host 2]

If you were ever given the keys to the High Snob Castle, what would your first executive order be?

[Sebastian Jean]

First executive order. If I were given the keys to the High Snob Castle.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, no. Johnson's Evan Canary Pants gets caught on a passing train in Grand Central.

[Co-host 1]

You hate to see it.

[Co-host 2]

Your next up, next up, turn this. But your next stop, turn the thermostat.

[Sebastian Jean]

I would want to bring back our in house brand and like revamp the show.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

When was that?

[Sebastian Jean]

This was wild. It ran for a minute. It was called HS05. Really high snapadi. And then 05 was 2005, which is when High Snap was founded. But we, we had a lot of really good shit. But I just think that we could, you know, run it back and just stream.

[Co-host 1]

Was it sold on High Snob?

[Sebastian Jean]

It was sold on the shop. And then every now and then we do like a lot of like co branded merch for like collabs and stuff like that.

[Co-host 1]

Noah did some cool shit with Camber.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Was that. But that wasn't like explicitly the in house line.

[Sebastian Jean]

Kind of like a version of this kind of coming right where it's like, it's less of like a seasonal line and more of like these kind of sporadic interactions we do with the right entities, the right, you know, institutions and stuff like that.

[Co-host 2]

Is that. Do you want to design it or have like a creative.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, I want to design it. You Know, like, we just did a collaborative T shirt with Zimmer. Zimmerly. Sorry.

[Co-host 2]

Okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

And that's cool, right? It's like, all right, yt, classic summertime. Let's do a white T shirt. So it's like, more moments like that than, like, an actual line. But I made me want to, you know, have a few more skus come out at once.

[Co-host 2]

Okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

You know, so I got.

[Co-host 2]

I got bad news for you, Sebastian. Noah Johnson lives.

[Sebastian Jean]

I know. Thankfully.

[Co-host 2]

So you're the. You're still and currently the fashion director at Heist and Body. Can you tell us what the that means?

[Sebastian Jean]

I do a lot of things specifically on the editorial side. A lot of hats style a lot of hats. I put a lot of funny hats on people.

[Co-host 2]

You love a funny hat.

[Sebastian Jean]

Funny hat.

[Co-host 1]

You're a big advocate, bro. Yeah, this is.

[Sebastian Jean]

I. When I put this damn, James can't cut ass on me today because I just got a normal. No, but I.

[Co-host 2]

With the funky hats.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, I like the funk.

[Co-host 1]

Were you debating one and then you were like, nah, nah.

[Sebastian Jean]

I mean, it's like summer. It's hard to do, like, kind of like the craziest. I didn't want to come on with a bucket hat on. Like, have my face.

[Co-host 1]

Bucket hat's kind of normal.

[Co-host 2]

What's the silliest hat you own?

[Sebastian Jean]

Silliest hat. Silliest good hat I own. And then silliest. It's the denim tears tartan bucket hat. The one I was wearing at the. Our Legacy at Bar Paradiso. Like, two. Two summers.

[Host/Ad Reader]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, wait, I thought it was like a. That was tartan. I thought it was like a straw gardening hat.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, it was like. It was. Yeah, it was.

[Co-host 2]

I think it's like, what, the Chinese

[Sebastian Jean]

picnic table cover thing.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, like red and white.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host 1]

He wasn't posted up like Raiden, bro.

[Co-host 2]

I thought you were. I thought it was like a Chinese auntie hat that they wear to, like, keep the sun off their face.

[Sebastian Jean]

I mean, yes, kind of is.

[Co-host 1]

Wait, what's the silliest bad hat then, that you own? Because you said silly is good, so there must be a silly as bad, right?

[Sebastian Jean]

No, there's no silly as bad.

[Co-host 2]

It's just.

[Sebastian Jean]

I always wanted to preface that the silly hats are also still good.

[Co-host 2]

You have one with, like, a propeller on top.

[Sebastian Jean]

No, not yet. Not yet.

[Co-host 1]

A dunce cap.

[Sebastian Jean]

I might.

[Co-host 1]

What makes a silly hat good versus bad? Like, how do you draw the line between two silly or whatever?

[Sebastian Jean]

If you've ever seen the show, Martin, and there's this dude Cole on the show. Like, Cole had all these kind of crazy, like, very 90s hats with, like, you know, like, fudgeing pom poms and shit coming off, but, like, swaggy, you know, Some shit you'd wear as a kid, and your mom would make you put it on. You hated it then. And then now you're like, 30, and you're like, fuck, where's that hat?

[Co-host 1]

Gotcha.

[Co-host 2]

Gotcha. Is that kind of. Because, like, the, you know, there's. There's a pretty go to styling maneuver, which is, like, normally fit, wacky shoes.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Is that something you do with, like, normal fit, Wacky?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, I think so. I like that. Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

If the hat is wacky, can you have another wacky element or is it only one wacky element?

[Sebastian Jean]

I think if you have a wacky hat, you can maybe do wacky shoes and you kind of sandwich it a little bit more. Like, you could have, like, a freaky bag or something like that.

[Co-host 2]

Something freaky.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. But you got to just play with the balance. Okay. Yeah, no, no, no. Cut and dry rules.

[Co-host 2]

Free queue.

[Sebastian Jean]

The free queue.

[Co-host 2]

You got to calibrate that. All right. Okay. So what do you. What do you do in high Somali besides wear wacky hat?

[Sebastian Jean]

So I style. I style a lot of our shoots, a lot of the town stories. You know, we have a great team that comes up with, like, a lot of great ideas. Market stories. This is what we're into, and within what we're into. This is the best of what we're into. Across footwear, accessories.

[Co-host 1]

From a book. Style.

[Sebastian Jean]

Exactly. Editorial backs, Bob.

[Co-host 2]

Is it hard to style something if you don't, like, agree with it, that it's, like, a thing, but maybe you got outvoted or overridden, like, in terms

[Sebastian Jean]

of, like, a talent, like, someone. I'm not really into.

[Co-host 2]

Noah's like, no, we're doing brown pants again.

[Sebastian Jean]

Brown pants.

[Co-host 1]

I like that.

[Sebastian Jean]

I think the best shit comes out of, like, restrictions like that. When I feel limited and I have to, like, figure out how to make these limitations dope and great, I think that's kind of like, the best.

[Co-host 2]

Like a puzzle.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, exactly. Like, these are the rules.

[Co-host 2]

These are.

[Sebastian Jean]

How do I weasel my way out of this one, you know?

[Co-host 2]

Like, what about with talent, though?

[Sebastian Jean]

With talent? No, it's. It's cool. I mean, there's been people I, like, didn't know of or weren't, wasn't super into, but, you know, you figure out how to, like, make someone into something that, you know, they already Are. But, you know, you know, building characters.

[Co-host 1]

But if they're whack, then you can, like, make them dope, right?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Or you can just do something that, like, feels real and organic in them. And, like, you know, I don't want to ever, like, make anyone feel costuming.

[Co-host 2]

Right. Like, but you have to spend a lot of time, like, convincing them, like,

[Sebastian Jean]

explaining them why sometimes. Sometimes.

[Co-host 2]

No, no. This hat is wacky, but it's fire.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, yeah. Because you want to, like, push people. And it's nice when someone's like, all right, like, fudge it. I trust you. And then they have a moment where they, like, they see a photo and they're like, oh, wow, I see what you're talking about. Yeah, no shit.

[Co-host 2]

But you've been doing this now that every fudgeing celebrity thinks that they're, you know, God's gift to fashion. Like, has it gotten harder now that. Because people come in with preconceived notions, like. No, actually, I know what's sick.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

It's all chrome hearts.

[Sebastian Jean]

Everything. Yes and no. It's. It's. It helps. And it also hurts for that exact reason that you just said. It's just like, people think they know everything. But, no, I've. I've been able to push everyone and, like, make sure people feel good and feel like themselves, but then also, like, try some shit.

[Co-host 1]

Who's a celeb that you've pushed the most recently that, like, ultimately, the results were beloved by both you and the talent.

[Sebastian Jean]

Hmm. I haven't really had to push anyone too, too much. We just did. We did Michael Elise, who was playing for France in the World cup this year. Cool as dude wears clothes super well. And he had, like, a very specific style. Like, he knew. He knew. He's one of the. He's someone who knows what he likes, you know, knows the brands he wants to wear and doesn't want to wear. And, like, for example, there was a. There was a look we did with the Dior, like, heavy, layered cargo shorts, and he was, like, on the fence. And I was like, nah, but trust me. And he was like, yeah, you know, let's do it. And I ended up being one of the best photos. Jurgen Teller shot that and use that image for, like, a show he has up in Berlin right now.

[Co-host 1]

Oh.

[Sebastian Jean]

You know what I mean?

[Co-host 1]

So it's ultimate cosign. Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

To have, like, Jurgen Teller shoot Michael Lise in Jonathan Anderson Dior styled by. Styled by your boy.

[Co-host 1]

What's your. What are you talking to Jurgen about on Set. What's that like?

[Sebastian Jean]

I mean, he was cool. He loved the looks, you know, it was just amazing to be in the presence of this OG photographer, you know? Definitely a vibe.

[Co-host 1]

Short shorts.

[Co-host 2]

Shortwear shorts.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. No, actually, he's wearing. He was wearing jeans that day.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, really? Buy some office,

[Sebastian Jean]

he thought. Noah's coming to set.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. Yes.

[Co-host 2]

You know what? Johnson's coming to set up as well as the pants. He's German, right?

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Host/Ad Reader]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

Okay.

[Co-host 1]

Do you have on a six running shoes at least?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yes, of course.

[Co-host 2]

Dude.

[Co-host 1]

Classic uniform. Goat.

[Co-host 2]

As your portfolio's grown, can you like. And your, I guess, like, reputation and also, like, index roll decks. If you can you find that like celebrities and maybe they're like, people in management are like, they trust you more for sure.

[Sebastian Jean]

I mean, there'll be times you're like, we're getting like, we're trying to book a talent and, like, they want to know who's styling, and we'll, like, send them, like, a few stylists and they're like, oh, no, this person. All right. This person's not right. But if I say, oh, I'm going to do it, no one really asking you questions, which is kind of great. So I'm like, the like, what's like a uno card that would reverse cards,

[Co-host 2]

like, draw four Psych Wild.

[Sebastian Jean]

Our guys got to do. You got no. Say you're the closer. You're the closer.

[Co-host 2]

You're Mariana Rivera.

[Sebastian Jean]

Better for worse. I'm the closer, which is nice. It's a good position to be in. And it's nice to know that, like, there isn't a lot of pushback when my name is on the table.

[Co-host 2]

Do you. How do you treat celebrities differently than, like, regular models? Or how do you have to do you have to hit them. Hit them with, like, kid gloves.

[Sebastian Jean]

Celebrity. I mean, regular models just have to wear whatever the. You tell them.

[Co-host 1]

That's right.

[Co-host 2]

Shut the up.

[Co-host 1]

Know your role.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

It's like, this is what you do. Sorry.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. You're a walking clothes rack. You don't get to say.

[Co-host 2]

Do you ever feel bad for celebrities? Sorry, not somebody's. For models. Like, like the one guy that had to walk the Rick show with his tiny dick out.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. I mean, that is tough. It's hard, you know, But I, I.

[Co-host 1]

No, it's soft, actually. Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Well, I don't know.

[Co-host 1]

We'll never know.

[Sebastian Jean]

I would just hope that they're compensated. I don't know what the Rick Owens rate is. Right. But, like, I would imagine if they're paid a A nice dick fee.

[Co-host 2]

I was so bad, though. Like, everyone gets to wear like a hard. A hard fit it, like at a show. And then there's one guy that's just like, in, like some, like in like Rios.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host 2]

And like high heels.

[Sebastian Jean]

And it's like, there's actually Tyrone.

[Co-host 2]

How'd he draw that car?

[Sebastian Jean]

There's actually a brief tax.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Really?

[Sebastian Jean]

No, but I would. I would imagine they might be.

[Co-host 2]

I mean, you gotta. If you're casting, you got to get the guy with, like, the nicest for the. For the fit. Right.

[Sebastian Jean]

It's true. And Rick Owens, I guess, you know, not. No, I mean, if you're doing underwear packaging, like, like Calvin Klein or some. Right, right. You know, chances are they're picking someone. A certain.

[Co-host 1]

We're trying to limit the work in post. That costs money. So bring a hog to the casting.

[Co-host 2]

There' never any dialogue with a model. You're just like, here you go, put this on.

[Co-host 1]

No.

[Sebastian Jean]

You know, I also want people to feel comfortable. And even with models. Right. I try to, like, see, like, you know, everyone has, like, a level of personal style and taste. Right. So I'm not trying to make, you know, if. If this person wouldn't wear a skirt and it's not believable. I'm not going to put them in the skirt.

[Co-host 1]

It's got to be believable. I see what you're saying.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. So I think that's like, the little balance there. They're like. To make sure it's present.

[Co-host 2]

We can't put like, the white guy in, like, you know, the rice patty hat.

[Sebastian Jean]

Nah, you can't do that or do anything. That's another thing that I look out for, you know, nuance. Sh.

[Co-host 1]

Native American headdresses. Black. The durag can play. But if not.

[Sebastian Jean]

All right, like, no, we can't put a do rag on this German kid. It's not a good look.

[Host/Ad Reader]

I mean.

[Co-host 1]

I mean, spooky. Black.

[Sebastian Jean]

Context matters. Context.

[Co-host 1]

Corbin. I think he's British, actually.

[Co-host 2]

Okay. He's the nicest celebrity you've ever worked with.

[Sebastian Jean]

Nicest celebrity.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

I think most people are nice.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, come on, bro.

[Sebastian Jean]

Oh, comic. Lachlan. He was. He was cool. He was very nice.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, gee, really?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Facts.

[Co-host 1]

He seems like he'd be. He would be on set doing the most, though.

[Sebastian Jean]

Nah, he was chill. I really hope they make jokes.

[Co-host 2]

Like, I. I'm rooting. I mean, I'm. I really hope that maybe it's too late, but I was really hoping that he'd jump over. Jeffrey. Goldblum is like, the wacky. Like, the weird old guy.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Shut the up.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Goldblum fatigue is real.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Still not still to this day.

[Co-host 1]

What about, like, how the rapper has been in terms of, like, their. And I'm only speaking from experience. Sometimes hard people to work with.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Because they're the new rock stars. Right. So it's like they don't have to give a fuck if they don't want to. How's that been?

[Sebastian Jean]

Haven't really done a rapper in a little bit. I'm trying to think who the last rapper was. Yachty, maybe. Yachty? Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

He's.

[Sebastian Jean]

That was a while ago. Yachty was like, 20, 23.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

You have to push him out of his comfort zone because he's obviously, like, comfortable getting so.

[Sebastian Jean]

So beforehand, his, like, publicist puts us in a group chat and. And he's like, yo, it's his boat. And he just like, I don't do skinny jeans. I don't do this, I don't do that. I'm like, listen, bro, I'm not going to put you in skinny jeans.

[Co-host 1]

Right, Right.

[Sebastian Jean]

So I think, like, ahead of getting on set, he was a little standoffish.

[Co-host 1]

Were you offended for him being, like, even thinking that you would date?

[Sebastian Jean]

I've done this so much. And I'm like, he, like, you know, when you're. When you're a talent, when you're a celebrity, you go into these shoots, right? It's you and your team versus, like, 10, 15 other motherfuckers you've never met. And you have no idea what these people going to try to do to you, you know? I mean, you just hope that they, like, make you look somewhat good.

[Co-host 1]

Right?

[Sebastian Jean]

So it's like, I get it, you know? And you have bad experiences. You go and do bad shoes with whack magazines, and it's just like, all right, fuck. Like. Like, I gotta, like, kind of put a wall up. Yeah. You know? So I was like, you know, I got it. I was like. So we got to set. He sees the racks. He turns to me, he's like, all right, you know what you're talking about. What did you.

[Co-host 2]

What was, like. What was on the rack that you remember?

[Sebastian Jean]

You know, it was like some Giorgio Armani. Some comic garcon plu. What else? We put some Bottega. Some good, like, Margiela. Mm. Six Smarting rose. Yeah, we had a lot of good, you know, and brands were excited to dress him. Sure. Had a lot of stuff in, and it just. And it was great.

[Co-host 2]

And then would you remember what you put him in? That was like your favorite look.

[Sebastian Jean]

The combe to garcon look was great. Actually. He was someone who I was trying to put him in like a kill this comb kill. And he was like, bro, like, you know, I'm gonna. He was. He referenced his comment section.

[Co-host 1]

Right.

[Sebastian Jean]

I gotta, like, you know, there's a balance here. But then at the end of the, like, it was. We're getting towards the end of the shoot and he's like, it. Let's try that. And it was one of the hardest looks banger.

[Co-host 2]

And it made the final cut.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, dude.

[Co-host 2]

How was the comments on it?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, I mean, he looked great. Like, I don't think anyone was like, press about.

[Co-host 1]

It's a normal amount of homophobia.

[Co-host 2]

More like J. Cruz, who's been the biggest diva that you've worked with.

[Co-host 1]

It's hurt some feelings, bro.

[Sebastian Jean]

Biggest diva I've worked with.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. Besides Noah Johnson.

[Sebastian Jean]

I don't know. Hm. I gotta think back.

[Co-host 2]

Picus diva or like, maybe gave you the most pushback, but eventually did, like, end up with a compromise or something. Rocky.

[Sebastian Jean]

Nah, Rocky was actually really great. That was a good flow. And Henson was there, just kind of like, you know.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, like, just like some big brother the sky.

[Sebastian Jean]

Exactly.

[Co-host 1]

Were you, like, collaborating with Matthew and Ryzen?

[Sebastian Jean]

Like, was it a triumphant, like, hence. It kind of gave me the whole rundown. It's like, all right, listen, this is what he likes. Who doesn't like, you know, just like, you know, working with me on the edit. And then, yeah, when Rocky pulled up the set, he just kind of let me cook sick. Which is great. You know, he definitely highlighted. Highlighted some brands. He's like, all right, let's make sure we have, like, this moment. That moment. Did we use any. Yeah, we did. We did. Because that was. That was. Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Yo, they know where their bread is buttered, bro. Hence, it is the goat for a reason.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, I put the aug with the Chanel.

[Sebastian Jean]

Exactly. I might have, actually.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

We weren't doing tonight. We weren't doing.

[Co-host 1]

He wasn't signed yet.

[Sebastian Jean]

We did some aug with some. Some loavy, I think.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, yeah. Tasty.

[Host/Ad Reader]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

All right. Respect. Do you have a dream sub you'd love to style one day that you haven't?

[Sebastian Jean]

Dream celebrity. I've hit a lot of them, to be quite honest.

[Co-host 1]

Pause.

[Sebastian Jean]

You've hit.

[Co-host 2]

Your bucket list. Has been.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Heavily ticked off.

[Host/Ad Reader]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. For the most part.

[Co-host 2]

What about dream non celebrity?

[Sebastian Jean]

Not. I mean, non celebrity. I mean, would you count Obama as a celebrity? I'd love to, absolutely.

[Co-host 2]

What would you style Obama in?

[Sebastian Jean]

A kilt him in some. Put him in some row.

[Co-host 1]

Okay. Put him in thousand dollar jeans. Yeah, that'll be great for his man of the people imagery.

[Co-host 2]

Would make shorts for Obama. Just one of one. One of ones.

[Sebastian Jean]

You heard it here first.

[Co-host 2]

Let's back up a little bit. Yep. Talked about career highlights to get back to beating. You worked early in your career with the late, great, the legendary stylist Melanie Ward. What were some of the lessons you took away from working with her?

[Sebastian Jean]

I mean, that was like an amazing experience. I met Melanie and her team. I was interning at Calvin Klein and she was huge. She was at TK Styling a shoot for us. Not for us. I. I was a fashion.

[Co-host 2]

You're on the team, you're getting coffees.

[Sebastian Jean]

I was getting coffees. Right. And steaming and hanging and picking up. And I remember just like having a really good conversation with her and she

[Co-host 2]

was like a person.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. 100. She's like, oh, like you're in school. What are you studying? I was like, oh, I'm studying political science.

[Co-host 2]

She's like, I'm writing this blog that's selling used clothes.

[Co-host 1]

Have you heard of grail.com?

[Sebastian Jean]

i didn't. I didn't make. Mentioned the Grail drive, but I should have. Low key. But it was great. I mean, it was just so amazing to be in the presence of someone and like, have them be a real ass person, you know? And like, I was like assisting her assistant's assistant. Right. But like, I was just kind of still on set. We did. I did one self service magazine shoot with them and I just couldn't be happier to be running around New York City in the sweltering sun picking garment bags up.

[Co-host 2]

I mean, that's a lesson in itself, right? Is that you treat everyone like a human being. Like a. The gum on your shoe.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, that shit will take you very far.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Co-host 2]

And then. So what was it like interning at Calvin Klein during that very brief, but with hindsight, very maybe.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yo, fucking amazing.

[Co-host 2]

Underrated Raph Simmons era.

[Sebastian Jean]

You had Raf Simmons, Peter Mueller and Blasey in the same building because at the time, Peter and Mature were. Were working with Raph because they were doing all the rap by Raph shit. But then they're also helping rap with 205.

[Co-host 2]

Did you interface with Matthew at all?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, I mean, I would see these guys on the floor, you know, Willie Vanderpeer running around like, it was very cool. And like I think there was a

[Co-host 1]

sterling ruby in the mix too.

[Sebastian Jean]

Sterling ruby? Yeah. There was a time where I was like. Someone was like, oh, look, you need to go bring all these thongs. That's sterling ruby. Because he's using them for the install. And I was like, all right, cool.

[Co-host 2]

He needs to sniff up.

[Sebastian Jean]

You know, I go down there, I'm like, hey, Mr. Ruby, here's your thongs.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, Mr. Ruby, you're thought the thongs requested.

[Sebastian Jean]

And he's like, thank you. Thanks, man. You know, it's cool. It was a very interesting place to be. And like, you know, this is right when I was like, you know, that's when I bought my first pair of Oswegos off the grilled.

[Co-host 1]

Right, right, right.

[Sebastian Jean]

So I'm like walking out the building, raps out there waiting for his car. And he sees me, miles. We goes. And I'm like, this is dope.

[Co-host 2]

Did he.

[Sebastian Jean]

He didn't really like, was like, you know, he peeped game, but he didn't like really give me like any like, oh, nice shoes.

[Co-host 2]

You're smoking cigs with him?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, no, I never. I never smoked any Sigs. But I brought him his. His call coffee.

[Co-host 1]

What's the honor?

[Sebastian Jean]

I actually might have the post it that I wrote it down on.

[Co-host 1]

Oh.

[Sebastian Jean]

Old wallet somewhere. But I don't remember everything, but one thing was that he likes stevia.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

And I was running around garment districts trying to find stevia for a while and they're like, finally I found some and I brought it to him and I was like, I don't like dollars.

[Co-host 2]

And classic. Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

You know, it was. It was tough, but I made it happen, you know, that's what.

[Co-host 2]

Of course you did.

[Co-host 1]

Wait, could you.

[Co-host 2]

When interface with Matthew, was there any sense? Because he was like a no name at this time, right? He was under Peter.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Did you get any sense like, yo, this guy. Actually, this guy's a guy.

[Sebastian Jean]

Honestly, no idea. But you know, the, the idea was that you just like you said, you treat everyone like they're already the guy. Because when they become the guy, and they'll remember. He won't remember me, but you never know.

[Co-host 1]

That kid got the best stevia in theory, you know? Yeah. Yeah. He ruled.

[Co-host 2]

How badly did you think Calvin Klein up by firing him and like ending his tenure? Super. How was it?

[Co-host 1]

Like a year plus a year and a half?

[Sebastian Jean]

I think it was a little over a year. He might have got to two years. Yeah, I think it was tough, but I. I get it. I don't think that the consumer was ready. But I thought that 205 was really great. I mean, 205 has standard stood the test of time facts.

[Co-host 2]

205. W39.

[Sebastian Jean]

What? Yeah. W39. Yeah. NYC. Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

The show is hard as hell, dude. But it definitely. I feel like not only was the consumer not ready, Calvin Klein wasn't ready for. To be flipped on a dime, but, like, they didn't trust the process.

[Sebastian Jean]

No, not yet. And I think it was also just like. I think the time. Time timeliness was off.

[Co-host 2]

He was too far ahead.

[Sebastian Jean]

I think so. I think they weren't ready. I also don't think that, like, maybe the culture wasn't there yet either.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

So.

[Co-host 1]

But now it's just a bunch of grails.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

100.

[Sebastian Jean]

100. Which. Also known as really capitalized off of. Yeah. There's a few people collecting it, but I think you can still get a lot of it for the low. And I think that if you can cop some good two or five shit right now, you will be doing yourself a favor and have a grill or

[Co-host 2]

like, do you have anything like a sub subset of something that you, like, collect or have a lot of?

[Sebastian Jean]

I've had my moments. Raph. Helmet stuff. What else? I used to have a lot of sneakers. It's like an ebb and a flow. I think I've realized that living in New York, I can't, like, I don't have the capacity or space to hold on to all this shit. I was. I really love dries. Like, I have, like, a lot of. I have. I have a few things that I've kept. Some things I've gotten rid of.

[Co-host 2]

That's all glory.

[Sebastian Jean]

It's tough.

[Co-host 1]

It's tough.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, what was the most you ever

[Co-host 2]

paid for a pair of sneakers?

[Sebastian Jean]

Most I've ever paid for a pair of sneakers. Probably around. Probably around 2000.

[Co-host 1]

What? Oh, what the. Were those air mags, bro? What the.

[Sebastian Jean]

You know. Yeah, it was the Prada America's Cups that Cass Hurst did.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, Damien Hurst Fail song. You spent two GS on those.

[Co-host 2]

Suck.

[Sebastian Jean]

No, it was like. Nah, it's closer. Like, it was somewhere between 1650 and 1800.

[Co-host 1]

I hope you sold them.

[Sebastian Jean]

No, I still have them, bro.

[Co-host 1]

And you know what they're worth now, bro? You could take those to Luke's and maybe get two. Two?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, two.

[Co-host 1]

200.

[Co-host 2]

True Argentinian.

[Sebastian Jean]

But the experiences I've had in them, I was. I went backstage at a Prada show like.

[Co-host 1]

Like, okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

Several seasons ago, I had them on. And the footwear Designer at Prada. He's like, you know you got art on your feet, right?

[Co-host 1]

I was like, yeah, dude, that was such a nephew.

[Sebastian Jean]

Paid art.

[Co-host 2]

Art prices for him.

[Co-host 1]

I just gotta say. That was a Nepo baby club.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, but it was. But it was good, though. I liked it. I think it was cool for Prada to go there, you know, it was a good rollout.

[Co-host 2]

Okay, you have a pass on that because you're like sticking by your guns. Is there a pair of sneakers that you look back and you're like, what the. The was I thinking paying that much? Like the Pokemon twos or whatever?

[Co-host 1]

Char the Charizard 5.

[Sebastian Jean]

I think a big thing for me is I. I don't want to buy fashion sneakers at retail anymore.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Co-host 2]

Kendall Roy with the long ball. Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

You can't do that. Because honestly, like, when you know as much as we do, you know that like this shit will end up at like some sample sale for like a fraction of that.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

What are some fashion sneakers you own besides the. Some cups?

[Sebastian Jean]

I own a lot of product fashion sneakers.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

Like the product collapse. Great shoe. That was like maybe like 900 retail.

[Co-host 1]

Those are good.

[Sebastian Jean]

I wore the out of them. Wear them yellow.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, bangers.

[Sebastian Jean]

And I was like one of the first.

[Co-host 2]

And you were one of the first that I know that was like actually put them on feet.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yep, yep. Which is great, you know, And I like when I have that little moment.

[Co-host 1]

Are you a Gatsman? You wear gats?

[Sebastian Jean]

I have a pair. I know I had a pair of gats, actually. So funny story here. I bought a pair of gats off my boy Kevin, who bought a size that was maybe half size too small for him. Him bottom from him. He complains for two years that I fleeced him for the shoes that I convinced him to buy them just so I could buy them from him.

[Co-host 1]

Wow. Is he.

[Sebastian Jean]

So now he's taking them back.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, really?

[Sebastian Jean]

So I basically rented these gas from him for like, you know, layaway, so I might get another pair. I mean, they're great. I want to get actually a pair of the low top futures, because I think those are. Okay, come back.

[Co-host 2]

You cornered your homie Facts crazy. We're going back to ck. You think they had a moment early this year? Do you think they. Speaking of like mist timing, do you think they adequately took advantage of the love story moment that everyone was fawning over in what was that, like, February, March?

[Sebastian Jean]

So I don't think that they have fully taken advantage of it because I think also the timeline of like Maybe they knew that this shit was coming out. But I think it's tough to kind of time those, like a product release or like, seasonal collections with, like, a show coming out.

[Co-host 1]

Right.

[Sebastian Jean]

So I think this fall, I have a prediction that this fall is going to be good for them.

[Host/Ad Reader]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Who's the designer right now?

[Co-host 2]

What's her lady? That.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, she. It's pretty. People do not like her.

[Sebastian Jean]

I'm blanking on her.

[Co-host 2]

Is she from Givenchy?

[Co-host 1]

No.

[Sebastian Jean]

I don't know. I forget where she's from. She's Italian. I know that.

[Co-host 1]

They're trying, right? They're trying. I just don't know if it's.

[Sebastian Jean]

But I don't even know if it's gonna be like the collection. I think it's gonna be like, oh, common client. Like, mainline that you a good pair of jeans.

[Co-host 2]

Not to fucking blow bubbles on it, because we worked with them and because we love them. But Giorgio Armani putting out arm to kind of coincide with, like, the. The love for vintage Armani felt like a very Smart maneuver that 100% brand, like Calvin Klein could do. It's like, yo, here's our, like, 1996 club.

[Sebastian Jean]

Right? Right.

[Co-host 2]

Like what Gap's doing, right?

[Sebastian Jean]

With Gap, you know, I mean, I think Ralph has done it in its entirety, you know, or its entire existence. Who else? I mean, Levi is another good brand, right. Really good at doing that. Just like leaning into the heritage shit and keeping it in this timeless cycle.

[Co-host 1]

CK should run back up the palace collab.

[Co-host 2]

That was the house club.

[Co-host 1]

Was very simple.

[Sebastian Jean]

It was another favorite pair of draws that I have. Great tank tops, good T shirts. Also, the hair impression was good, too. That they did. That was great.

[Co-host 2]

What do you think about that words?

[Co-host 1]

The heron Preston for Calvin Klein. Not for me. I thought it was pretty bad.

[Sebastian Jean]

Wow.

[Co-host 1]

I like the palace stuff.

[Sebastian Jean]

All right, go.

[Co-host 1]

Myself, I'm a simple. Yes. Yes.

[Co-host 2]

No, no, no. We. Okay, let's. Let's. Let's dig into that big brain of yours as a stylist. We want to know what are some styling moves that guys are doing maybe this summer specifically, or maybe even in prep preparation for fall.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

That you're fucking sick of seeing.

[Sebastian Jean]

I am sick of seeing white socks, some sort of loafer or derby with a jean short and a tank top and a dress shirt over.

[Co-host 2]

That's like the Silver Lake mechanic.

[Co-host 1]

The uniform.

[Sebastian Jean]

It's like, oh, explorer page core.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. I think also like, everyone in, like, head to toe chrome hearts. That's also boring. Not that Chrome Arts is bad. And I Think when are we going

[Co-host 2]

to see the Chrome Hearts backlash? Because that shit has been bro. And you know what's hilarious is that like all that is a lot of it.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

How long until our long national nightmare could be?

[Sebastian Jean]

I don't know. You know, I hope it never like totally becomes whack, because I do like some of it. But I think that everyone doing it head to toe is just like, it's too much.

[Co-host 2]

What's the new Balenciaga, right?

[Sebastian Jean]

100.

[Co-host 1]

It's a shortcut to people just assuming you're stylish because you're rich.

[Sebastian Jean]

Right. Easy. It's like, oh, I can walk into this club in sweatshirts.

[Co-host 2]

Yo. Is the next Chrome Hearts, where instead of pull up to the strip club with a goyard bag full of $27,000 jeans, he's like putting them on the stage.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Yeah. Like throwing them at the strippers.

[Co-host 2]

They just start showing up with Ross jeans.

[Sebastian Jean]

I don't know. I don't know if that's gonna happen. I hope it doesn't happen because I like jeans.

[Co-host 1]

Throwing $800 flip flops on a stripper's head. Crazy. Making it rain dune sandals. I don't.

[Sebastian Jean]

I don't know if the row has the same currency, but cultural currency with the.

[Co-host 1]

With a different race probably.

[Co-host 2]

Here's the thing though.

[Sebastian Jean]

It's and Amaganza. In my head.

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[Co-host 2]

But once people, like once it kind of trickles down and people understand the price point. Yeah, the whole point is that it's inconspicuous.

[Sebastian Jean]

Right.

[Co-host 2]

But it's going to become conspicuous consumption.

[Co-host 1]

Kind of already is, dude.

[Sebastian Jean]

I mean, I hope. I mean, you can't be conspicuous because you. I mean. All right, but the thing was like, with like chrome hearts, right? You could hit a wide audience, right? There's like six. Six graders who know what Chr is at this point, right? And they see it and like, oh, that guy's cool because he's got that hoodie on. Real or fake, they don't give a.

[Co-host 2]

Right.

[Sebastian Jean]

The road jeans. You're like, oh, this guy's got some cost jeans on.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. You know, like if you even know what cost is. Right?

[Host/Ad Reader]

Right.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Walmart, dude.

[Co-host 2]

What about Erd?

[Sebastian Jean]

You think next up, Erd? Honestly, I don't really pay too much attention to it. I don't.

[Co-host 2]

You like the racist uncle loafers?

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. You don't like the racist iconography?

[Sebastian Jean]

The Nazi sympathizer out to anyone building a business. But, you know, just not. Not for me, not on my radar.

[Co-host 2]

All right, so we're sick of the white sock, black loafer, Jord beater, Bushwick ass. Bushwick job interview.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Facts. Sick of open toe shoes with no socks. With no socks.

[Co-host 2]

Go.

[Sebastian Jean]

Wait, so like the flip flop or, or, or the zero joints, whatever the. The things are.

[Co-host 2]

Shout out.

[Sebastian Jean]

Literary sport. Nice collab.

[Co-host 2]

Don't wear those in the city.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, don't wear those in the city. I got a homie shadow cam. He's. He's got a pair. He. He lives upstate though, so he's got a pair of ass. But still. I don't want to see anyone's toes.

[Co-host 1]

Right.

[Co-host 2]

I don't want to see your toes. Listen, next to dog, you're at the

[Sebastian Jean]

bar, some goes down, you wear your people, something happens. You gotta throw a punch and your toes are out.

[Co-host 1]

Come on, you're wearing Javianas.

[Co-host 2]

I'M stepping on your feet.

[Sebastian Jean]

Ah, yeah. You're done for. Someone breaks a glass, you're honestly just

[Co-host 2]

like the amount of just. Yeah. The risk of stepping on glass is like.

[Co-host 1]

I mean, flip flops to the bar is. Can't do it is on hand. Listen, if you're walking down the street to a bodega to run errands.

[Co-host 2]

Nope.

[Co-host 1]

I know it's gross, but like. Okay, but wearing them out to a function is unhinged.

[Sebastian Jean]

And don't get me started on people with flip flops without like the good feet. Well, I have nice toast.

[Co-host 1]

That's a non starter.

[Sebastian Jean]

The foot hygiene is like not really lining up with the amount of people out here. Flip flops, right?

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

That's fair.

[Co-host 2]

What do you think about how many flip flops we saw this past season in Paris?

[Sebastian Jean]

It was crazy.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, it was crazy.

[Sebastian Jean]

Very intense.

[Co-host 2]

Like it's. It's only getting more powerful.

[Sebastian Jean]

Even apocalypse. As. As hot as it was. I didn't want to see it it in that environment.

[Co-host 1]

But you got. You got it. You understood. I mean, that was absurd. What did you. What were you wearing on the feats?

[Sebastian Jean]

My. My product collapse kicks. What else? I had some burks.

[Co-host 1]

Like Boston's covering the toes first get sweaty though.

[Co-host 2]

They do get you socked up.

[Sebastian Jean]

Socked up. Of course.

[Co-host 2]

Okay.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Co-host 2]

What do you wear on vacation, like

[Sebastian Jean]

to the beach vacation? I love water shoes.

[Co-host 2]

Oh.

[Sebastian Jean]

I'm a big water shoe guy because I don't really like when touches me in the ocean.

[Co-host 1]

What are.

[Co-host 2]

What.

[Co-host 1]

Where do you buy water shoes?

[Sebastian Jean]

I mean, you could buy water shoes in your local coast. The city.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, so you just buy some gr.

[Sebastian Jean]

No, no, no. I got some like, Vibram 5.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, okay.

[Co-host 2]

The toesies.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. And those are great.

[Co-host 1]

Could you wear those with flip flops? Does that be acceptable with football? Yeah, you put.

[Sebastian Jean]

I don't think you're gonna work.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, right. You just size up Johnson. I'm available.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, that's a styling maneuver.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, I might try that.

[Co-host 1]

Super normal.

[Sebastian Jean]

I'll give you. I'll tag you. I'll give you credit.

[Co-host 2]

Thanks, bro. I appreciate that.

[Co-host 1]

Actually, no, don't. You're good. You can have speed up.

[Co-host 2]

Makes good water.

[Sebastian Jean]

She Speedo. I didn't know that. But I actually want to actually add a Speedo to my collection.

[Co-host 2]

Dude, I was saying that I want to. I miss getting the. I. I regret missing out on the. Our legacy Armani Speedo. Not that I would go. I mean, I don't have the facilities to like do that.

[Sebastian Jean]

You got it.

[Co-host 1]

Bro, Speedo comme des garcon collaborator. I don't know if you guys remember that.

[Sebastian Jean]

I remember that. Do remember that.

[Co-host 1]

So you want to get a speedo to wear to the beach? You want a Speedo?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. To wear the beach? Yeah, yeah. Not to wear to the function.

[Co-host 2]

Show up to the bar, you know,

[Co-host 1]

but don't worry, guys, I got socks.

[Sebastian Jean]

That's good. That's all right. Honestly, I'll give some of the bad

[Co-host 2]

grapes, but my toes are covered.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, getting your ass beat by a guy at the bar wearing a speedo and a flip flop.

[Sebastian Jean]

Honestly, bro, once he gets a little peak, he might let you rock.

[Co-host 1]

All right?

[Sebastian Jean]

Could get you.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, yeah. Keep your distance.

[Sebastian Jean]

You good? You good, bro.

[Co-host 1]

Yo, you got it, bro. It's all you, you got.

[Co-host 2]

It's cool, it's cool, it's cool.

[Sebastian Jean]

Exactly.

[Co-host 2]

Exactly. What about. Okay, what is a.

[Co-host 1]

What.

[Co-host 2]

What's an easy styling trick that maybe guys, if they're looking to like advance their. What can they. What can they do? Just real easy, easy.

[Sebastian Jean]

There's a lot of great brands giving out free game right now. You know what I mean? You can walk into the Polo Mansion or, you know, go and just get a nice pair of denim, good T shirt, some clean sneakers, low profile kicks, nice watch. And you're good. I mean, everyone's trying to do the same. I mean, what I just described is very uniform look, but still it's just like, I think there's, there's, there's, there's a uniform and then there's also a cosplay uniform. Yeah. 100. I think that you can like do some chill shit that you might see someone else in, but it doesn't give the vibe that like, oh, you're trying to do heart. You're trying too hard to like be this fashion guy. That's the shit that pisses me off the most, is when it's just like, it's bad. But then also you know that there was like so much effort put into

[Co-host 1]

this is the styling tip then, to

[Sebastian Jean]

like uncomplicate 100 your uncomplicate. Be yourself. Be yourself. Sounds corny, but just like. Yeah, don't kind of feel like you have to like filter into, into like this like news cycle of what's hot and capri shorts and sandals and Hollister crop T shirts, you know, do you have.

[Co-host 1]

You didn't done any capris?

[Sebastian Jean]

Actually, I got a pair of Lauren manugan shorts that I love, but I haven't really figured out how to wear

[Co-host 1]

them because they're long as hell.

[Sebastian Jean]

They're long. And I'm like, I haven't really gotten like the sock to shoe ratio right. Yeah. Yet I think I might have to go sockless. But they're great. And I'm like, this is probably the piece that I have recently that's like stumped me the most. And it honestly has to do a lot with my proportions because I have really long legs and a shorter torso. So I'm like, same, bro. Still trying to figure those out.

[Co-host 2]

So is that actually a piece of advice that I think a lot of guys could take consideration, Know your silhouette. But not just that, like you buy the piece.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Don't feel like you got to wear it the next day 100. Figure out how maybe it sits in the closet for a year.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. And that's fine. You know, if you got the space, you know, just like let it rock and simmer on it and figure out like, you know, Cuz sometimes like you might bring something into your closet that you don't have anything else to supplement it with.

[Co-host 1]

Sure.

[Sebastian Jean]

And you might actually need to find a new pair of shoes a year. Six months down the line. That actually works really well with those shorts.

[Co-host 1]

Some of this get start getting expensive, bro. You got to get a whole new wardrobe to wear the Capri. Then I'm like, maybe don't buy.

[Co-host 2]

I don't know.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Sometimes you got to shop for what

[Co-host 2]

you just shopped for what? I mean, do you think guys are also like suffering from over styling?

[Sebastian Jean]

Over styling? I think right now it's not even in the summertime. Yeah, I think there's definitely an over styling bug going around.

[Co-host 2]

Like there's a trend. I don't know what we call it, but it's just like literally wearing everything you own.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. It's like every single, like, oh, I

[Co-host 2]

got five rings on each.

[Sebastian Jean]

Oh, I can't do it.

[Co-host 2]

I got a belt that's dangling.

[Sebastian Jean]

Honestly, no watch for as long as I've been doing no watch has been very liberating. And it kind of reminded me that like, less is more.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, true.

[Sebastian Jean]

You know, it's just like I'm still me rocking around, doing what I do, going to this place, that place. And yeah, there isn't like a $10,000 watch on my wrist.

[Co-host 1]

Is it. Is it about comfort then?

[Sebastian Jean]

Ultimately, 100% for me, it's always been about comfort. And I think when it wasn't, that's the times where I felt the worst. Where I was like, damn, like, I, like, I need to go home. And change, because I didn't leave the crib as myself.

[Co-host 2]

I got the Damien Hurst Jr. Kicks on.

[Co-host 1]

Because, like, I feel like. Like, you walk down the street, you might see someone who actually looks cool, but then, like, you think about it for five seconds like, yo, I know this guy's not comfortable. And then I'm like, so then what? You know, then it ruins the whole sweater wrap.

[Sebastian Jean]

These very T shirts are.

[Co-host 1]

Okay, well, I'm.

[Sebastian Jean]

That's a. Yo, touch it.

[Co-host 1]

I'm not wearing. No athleisure is. What is it, 100 cotton?

[Sebastian Jean]

Is it what it is? Okay, but it's comfortable. Stretch, stretchy. And it bounces back.

[Co-host 1]

Bounce back.

[Sebastian Jean]

Good.

[Co-host 2]

Bounce back, respect.

[Sebastian Jean]

You know what I mean?

[Co-host 2]

Are there any brands you look at for and you really respect the styling on the Runway? Because that's something we preach here is, like, you might not be able to afford orally head to toe, but you could certainly, like, style and cues.

[Sebastian Jean]

100 Orly is one of those brands. I mean, obviously, Michael Writer, Celine. It's, like, very talked about and clearly, like, a very definitive. Like, this is where this is going, and it's. It's a great place for it to be going. Who else? I'm gonna butcher his last name. I've never actually heard it said, but Camille Forkins. Fortunes.

[Co-host 1]

Fortunes.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, Fortunes. Love it. It. I think the shows that he's done in Paris have been really just fun and cool.

[Co-host 2]

Wearing wigs.

[Sebastian Jean]

No, I mean, honestly, I would think about it.

[Co-host 1]

It counts as a silly little hat.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, I thought about it.

[Co-host 2]

I wear wigs on ears.

[Sebastian Jean]

I saw Frank Ocean in a really dope wig, and I was like, damn. Like, that's kind of a vibe.

[Co-host 2]

Well, what wig was Franklin?

[Sebastian Jean]

She's like, a black wig.

[Co-host 1]

What?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, like, black bob.

[Co-host 2]

Wait, okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

Or like, when he was like, we were passing each other going down Broadway.

[Co-host 1]

Was he in. Was he, like, incognito in the wiggy thing, maybe?

[Sebastian Jean]

No. I mean, no. Anyone who knows Frank Ocean knows that. That's Frank. He was. If he was trying to fool anyone, he wasn't f. I think he was just on.

[Co-host 1]

Just in a bob. He was bobbed out.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. It's kind of like a bob.

[Co-host 2]

Was it a ass bob?

[Sebastian Jean]

No, actually, I put. What's that? Oh, Ah, forget. No, Stacy. No. What's his name? Whatever. Never mind. Lil Tracy. I put little Tracy in the wig.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

And. And. And a full comb look. And that was hard as.

[Co-host 2]

I mean, who's the. The volatility with, like, the. The hoodie with, like, the mohawk? Oh, yeah, that's making the rounds. I feel like that's gonna be something.

[Sebastian Jean]

I mean. Yeah, we just did a. We just did a piece on Kiko.

[Co-host 2]

Had kid. Had dudes.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Extensions.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yep. Comas. Always has crazy wigs on. We did it. We did it. Oh, JW for Dior also. They were doing some wigs. It's cool. I mean, it's another way to, like, express yourself. Yo, I could never have blonde hair, right? Like, long blonde hair, but, like, that might be a vibe with some. The white tea and some ro.

[Co-host 1]

If you pull up in a wig, dude, you're on some other.

[Co-host 2]

Pull up to the function.

[Sebastian Jean]

Next holiday party. Next. Next high snob holiday party. I'll be outside wigging out.

[Co-host 2]

I mean, do you think personal style is something that is, like, heavily debated and earlier maybe like, six months ago, people were maybe, like, beginners.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

101 guys were like, yo, how do I buy personal style? Literally, that was like, questions that people were asking. Where do I go to buy personal style?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Do you think that guys are developing a personal style that's, like, more extreme, like, putting. Literally wearing everything they own, just wearing shit that, like, really looks crazy because they're trying to stand out on a phone screen? Or is it just that that's what we. That's what's being served to us on our phones, and we're spending too much time looking at style on our phones.

[Sebastian Jean]

I think it's a combination. I mean, you do see those, like, kind of like, I like to call them Tekken characters, right? Where it's just like, just so much on looking like, you know, that you're about to choose your fighter and, like, go three rounds with, like, someone with a saber, you know, there's a lot of that going around, and I think a lot of that had to do with. I think also, like, you know, fashion brands would dictate that. I think, like, Demna's Balenciaga definitely dictated a lot of that look because this is how you wear it. You want to wear head to toe, the big sneakers, the sweatpants, you know, the layering of it all. And now that, like, you know, as like, the. Whoever's in charge of at the house's shifts, I think, like, the status quo shifts a little bit too, where it's just like, all right, this is what we're seeing on social media. We're not really seeing, like, Tekken characters anymore. We're seeing, like, you know, what's. What's the meme you guys always do? Evil doesn't die. Just reinvent.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

We're seeing a new evil. What's that? Evil.

[Co-host 2]

We're seeing where's. Where should. Where's headed and who's dictating that, for example, or demna.

[Sebastian Jean]

I don't know who has the helms right now, actually. I think if anything, it's just.

[Co-host 1]

So we need a leader.

[Sebastian Jean]

I think a lot of what happened in the past is still being regurgitated and kind of like cycled through. And eventually it's going to have its end. End hasn't completely come to a full

[Co-host 2]

stop yet with the tail end of balency.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, for sure.

[Co-host 1]

I mean, well, those guys moved on to what? Chrome, right?

[Sebastian Jean]

Chrome. It's definitely a big tragedy.

[Co-host 1]

Sneaker head hypebeast guys almost. They didn't necessarily. Not all of them evolved tastefully like you. A lot of those guys became these

[Sebastian Jean]

explore page fit, silver, like mechanics, you know, boat shoes.

[Co-host 1]

Okay. They're cobalt.

[Sebastian Jean]

Oh, it's the white socks. Okay.

[Co-host 1]

With the white side.

[Co-host 2]

No, look at me.

[Sebastian Jean]

Good.

[Co-host 1]

Don't look at me. I'm me, bro. I'm good.

[Sebastian Jean]

Oh, no, those are white socks.

[Co-host 1]

They're white Uniqlo socks.

[Co-host 2]

Whatever. Do you have any more shorts? Do you have any best guesses on where you think menswear is heading for the rest of 2026 into fall, winter 27?

[Sebastian Jean]

Well, it's funny you bring up the Calvin Klein ship because I think it's going to get to a point where like, everyone realizes that like all this kind of cool mall brand kind of shit is really good. And you can go into CK and like, get a good pair of jeans, get a good black loafer opera, say another one, right? Like you can go and get a cool vintage hoodie and just kind of like for $1,000. For $1,000. But that's the thing.

[Co-host 1]

Copy the look.

[Sebastian Jean]

People want to spend something to feel like something, something. So even if it's like a very low key piece, they feel good at the coffee shop, you know, pushing the stroller in the. Because it's like it.

[Co-host 1]

That's fair.

[Sebastian Jean]

You know what I mean?

[Co-host 1]

Because they know it's almost Wearing a pair of road jeans, you know, I get it.

[Sebastian Jean]

You know, I mean, I could walk into, you know, some high establishment for lunch and be like, all right, yeah. Everyone's like, who the is this kid in the jeans? But like, these jeans are the road, my friend, you know?

[Co-host 2]

Do you wear jeans when you fly?

[Sebastian Jean]

Hell no.

[Co-host 2]

What do you wear when you fly?

[Sebastian Jean]

Sweatpants, exclusively.

[Co-host 1]

Really?

[Sebastian Jean]

Track pants? Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Getting. Getting dressed to flies. Well, fools.

[Co-host 1]

Aaron.

[Sebastian Jean]

But no, you gotta get. You gotta get fly still. But also, I would never fly in shorts. Crazy work.

[Co-host 1]

No, no.

[Sebastian Jean]

Because it's freezing on the planes.

[Co-host 2]

What if you change into shorts because you're sleeping? I'm a flatbed.

[Sebastian Jean]

Nah, that's what I do.

[Co-host 1]

I get changes on the plane.

[Sebastian Jean]

But if you. If you don't run like I do, as far as, like, hitting ac, then, yeah, do what you gotta do. Yeah. What the. Yeah. Heydays.

[Host/Ad Reader]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

You're like a girl.

[Sebastian Jean]

I am.

[Co-host 1]

Or just an old woman?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Yeah, a little bit.

[Co-host 2]

Who are some. Okay, we talked about. We got. We were kind of negative there for a second. Let's get positive. Who are some, like, not celebrities because they don't dress well.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

What are some real life people that you think actually are best dressed?

[Sebastian Jean]

Real life people that I think are well dressed? Definitely. My guy, Olivier Rogers. He's actually working with Tyler Kulik right now. Used to sell Tyrese Halliburton. He's like, kind of like one of the guys that, like, the, you know, athletes would go to for some guidance.

[Co-host 2]

Is he the one that told Tyler, I don't get dressed, I get Dre's.

[Sebastian Jean]

No, I don't think so.

[Co-host 1]

He said that out loud, publicly on the People's Gallery.

[Sebastian Jean]

No.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

I did hear Tyler. I don't think Olivia told me to say that. Tyler. Adlib, but definitely Olivia.

[Co-host 2]

Any sense I get. Dre.

[Co-host 1]

Damn.

[Sebastian Jean]

If there's. If there's. Anyone that'll give me a roof, my money across, come to garcon Prada. It's him.

[Co-host 1]

Okay. Antwerp is definitely building. He is. He is a fire. IG follow. I. Yes.

[Sebastian Jean]

He's awesome. I'm trying to think. Who else? Nobody.

[Co-host 2]

That's it.

[Sebastian Jean]

Marcus Allen. I with. I like Marcus Allen a lot. Society archive. Shout out to those guys.

[Co-host 2]

Marcus. I love Marcus.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Marcus has great taste. He. Marcus might be the only one that I want to see in flip flops. Oh, Marcus Anagi. Like, I think like that.

[Co-host 2]

New York.

[Sebastian Jean]

If you're a society archive gang affiliated, you can wear flips.

[Co-host 1]

Affiliation.

[Sebastian Jean]

Society. You're the only people. Those are the only guys. Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Society archive gang.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

You can wear flip flops in the city or anywhere for them.

[Co-host 1]

It helps because everyone in that gang is gorgeous. Beautiful.

[Sebastian Jean]

Right? Those are the flip flop guys.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

Don't think you can be one of those.

[Co-host 1]

If you could have been a greeter at Abercrombie back in the day.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Flip flops. Because you gotta say.

[Sebastian Jean]

And I Won't. And I won't call you out on it.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

Other than that.

[Co-host 1]

So Marcus Olivier, who else?

[Sebastian Jean]

I mean, there's more. I just can't think off top of my head. Olivier, Marcus, me, Facts. I mean, that's why you're here.

[Co-host 1]

That's a good little lineup right there. Just follow those people and you're good.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Matthew Henson.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, sure.

[Sebastian Jean]

I mean, yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Legend.

[Co-host 2]

What do you think about, like, the fact that a lot of, like, successful male stylists, they do dress very plainly, are kind of in a uniform, like

[Sebastian Jean]

Jason Ryan, Jay Mastercray, like Olivia Rizzo. Like, I remember every time I saw this dude, he's like, in the same supreme jeans, like, and, like a crew neck and a T shirt. White tea with low white tea peeking out. I was like, genius.

[Co-host 2]

Is that almost the secret to, like. I mean, if the. If the guys dressing the best dressed guys? Yeah, just keeping it super plain and simple with, like, maybe a fun little watch or bracelet or a freaky shoe. Like the tiniest element of freak. Is that not the secret?

[Sebastian Jean]

I think it's a secret. I think it's also a bit of something that I do because, like, when you have all the shit in front of you, have all these racks of clothes, you kind of don't want to also be the. The loudest person in the room.

[Host/Ad Reader]

Sure.

[Sebastian Jean]

Because then it's just, like. It's just too much energy. You kind of have to, like, dial that back and, like, be more of, like, a palate cleanser.

[Co-host 1]

So you dress differently on set?

[Sebastian Jean]

No, I think I dress the same all throughout, but, like, especially on set. Like, set is not a moment for me to go into shock. You know what I mean? As, like, even if, like, oh, I'm going to be styling, you know, asap, Rocky, tomorrow, that shoot is not the time for me to go and wear, like, my craziest, best outfit.

[Co-host 1]

It's like you spitting a freestyle because.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, 100%. It's like, yo, let me rap for you, Rocky.

[Co-host 2]

Like, no, take my tape.

[Sebastian Jean]

Exactly. You know, I just want to go white tea, good jeans, and a good pair of shoes.

[Co-host 2]

What's your favorite white tea at the moment?

[Sebastian Jean]

Oh, we actually did a roundup of white tees, but I think top one for me. I love the CDLP white tees.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

CDLP is great. Actually. The stucy three pack is pretty good, too. I like those. I like a good basic YT. There's like the high level YTs also. The very white T shirts are great, too. I'm sorry. This is good. Honestly.

[Co-host 2]

Give me the ad with Livy. Next up.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Low key.

[Co-host 1]

You can be so lucky.

[Host/Ad Reader]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Did you ever have a style phase that you look back on now? You're like, damn, that sucked.

[Sebastian Jean]

Style phase I look back on. Yeah. I mean, I think it was crazy when I was wearing like APC petite standards and like pin rolling my jeans.

[Co-host 2]

That's.

[Sebastian Jean]

But that was the time, you know?

[Co-host 2]

But like, what is it that you felt like looking back, you're like, damn, I was a sheep.

[Sebastian Jean]

No, because I still. I mean, I still own a pair of APC raw denim jeans. I think it's a staple. But like pin rolling with like a pair of like, air Max ones, like, like running around the city in like 90 degree weather.

[Co-host 1]

These are tapered, but I got a taper. Crazy was. That was an epidemic.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. And that was a time where, like, I could honestly say that I was probably not comfortable. This was difficult. It was hard to walk like that.

[Host/Ad Reader]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

Od, literally the pool, the sweat would

[Co-host 2]

just pull it right. 100.

[Sebastian Jean]

And then you started getting the indigo all over your kicks.

[Co-host 2]

And like, why do people do that? Was it to, like, highlight the sneaker?

[Co-host 1]

I have no highlight the selvage highlight. The sneakers create this weird jogger. It's like, yo, it's a jogger silhouette. But I'm wearing raw denim. It was terrible. I did it as well.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. It's crazy.

[Co-host 1]

Not a good time.

[Sebastian Jean]

Not the worst era of my existence, but definitely one that I would never revisit.

[Co-host 2]

What's worse then?

[Sebastian Jean]

I don't know.

[Co-host 1]

There's got to be a. Like a. For sure woeded.

[Sebastian Jean]

I mean, like. Yes, but like, those are times where I shouldn't have really been having that shit on anyway, because I like, was like 10.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, you know. Dressing yourself.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

You know. Yeah. I think, you know, for the most part, I've like, been in accordance with every kind of decade that I was getting respect.

[Co-host 2]

Recently I saw this. Someone, you know, drug up a lot of photos of, like, kind of like the. The going out shirts.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

And a lot. And like, they were like, this is one of the worst style eras in hip hop where we're just like the stripy. Like big boxy.

[Sebastian Jean]

I love that. Yeah. And honestly, I've been doing it. The dinner we.

[Co-host 1]

You.

[Sebastian Jean]

You were there.

[Co-host 2]

What?

[Sebastian Jean]

The dinner at. What the. What's the restaurant in New York?

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, the Bulgarian one.

[Sebastian Jean]

Bulgari dinner. Yeah. What was the name of the Argo Fargo. No, what?

[Co-host 1]

Oh, the.

[Sebastian Jean]

The.

[Co-host 1]

The Italian Rest. The Italian restaurant.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. I pulled up yeah, yeah, that dinner. Right. I wore, like, a striped Prada dress shirt, and I'm in love with these old striped Prada dress shirts. Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Was it a vintage piece from that time, like 2003?

[Sebastian Jean]

Definitely earlier one. There's no, like, there's no triangle on the back of it.

[Co-host 1]

Better though, than, like, what Jay Z was wearing to the 4040 Club.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, but that's the reference, though.

[Co-host 2]

Sure.

[Sebastian Jean]

It's like that Yankee faded white T shirt and like, blue. Blue jeans.

[Co-host 1]

That's clean.

[Sebastian Jean]

That's all that.

[Co-host 2]

The historical context is fired. And it makes sense where it's like, yo, hip hop and rappers were like, finally, like, being accepted in the mainstream.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

And were making, like, big money. But they had. There were, like, racist club dress.

[Sebastian Jean]

For sure. For sure.

[Co-host 2]

And it was like, no hats 100.

[Sebastian Jean]

It was an awkward time to be a rapper and be trying to get dressed in. Get fly and like, being one of those environments.

[Co-host 2]

Right.

[Co-host 1]

It's also the NBA dress code era with David Stern. People kind of having to do the

[Sebastian Jean]

same thing, and they were getting fly

[Co-host 1]

in their own way.

[Sebastian Jean]

It was almost some. Some cool shit that came out of, like, a restriction.

[Co-host 1]

Sure.

[Sebastian Jean]

You know what I mean? Which I think is a fun place for me to borrow from. Especially, like, you think about all, like, the great, like, Martin Rose dress shirts that we've seen over the past decade. Eight years, whatever. However long it's been, like, it's good shit.

[Co-host 2]

What are you hoping to see the fellows wear for the rest of the summer?

[Sebastian Jean]

For the rest of the summer? I think we've all reached a point where I think summer's over and we're starting to think about dressing for fall. Okay. So in my. In my mind,

[Co-host 2]

summer's done.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

It's July.

[Co-host 1]

No, no, summer ends on July 5th.

[Sebastian Jean]

Everyone knows if you haven't gotten your foot off this summer, you have missed your opportunity. See you in 2027.

[Co-host 2]

So what do you. Have you started scheming on your fall fits yet? Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

Hell yeah.

[Co-host 2]

What are we. What are. What's in the. What's.

[Sebastian Jean]

I mean, it's all about outerwear to me. It's like, I could give a. About shirting, to be honest. It's like white teasing, like, good jackets, coats and shirts.

[Co-host 2]

You know, you're not a layering guy.

[Sebastian Jean]

You're just a big hero. I do. I do layer, but, like, I just love a good coat.

[Co-host 2]

What's in the lineup?

[Sebastian Jean]

So right now, you know, like the. The Prada, basically, like Carhartt jackets. Oh.

[Co-host 1]

Though. Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

You got Those I know to come. Okay, tk I think that is just like good everyday personal order. Do I, Do I.

[Co-host 2]

Who do you get to put in a personal order at Prada?

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

No, no, actually, no, actually not. Okay.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, those are. Well, here's my question for you. I agree those are fire. But like, I think that maybe the argument that this show internally would have just as an example, is that like, all right, you're wearing a high end version of workwear. Yeah. Is. Is that not like two layers of stolen valor where, like, why not go to the source?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yes.

[Co-host 1]

Save some money.

[Sebastian Jean]

But also I want to be in product. So, like, source.

[Co-host 1]

There you go.

[Sebastian Jean]

Not. Fuck the shorts. I also love car too. It's like, I might do the Prada jacket with like a pair, like a car hoodie or something like that.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

You know what I mean? But like, mix and match. End of the day, the new running around, the circles that I run in, like, I like the Prada jacket.

[Co-host 1]

Do you feel pressure because of the role and this like, world that you're in that you need to be a guy in a Prada jacket?

[Sebastian Jean]

Not exclusively. I think for me it's always been about a balance. Right. So maybe with the Prada jacket, it's not the road jeans, it's the pair of Levi's jeans, you know, or like some sushi jeans. Like, I always want to employ some level of balance.

[Co-host 2]

Balance, I mean, balance is. That's the second time it's come up where it's like a balance of freakiness

[Sebastian Jean]

and a balance of like, for sure, 100%. I never want to be like. I mean, sometimes I leave the house and I am in like a head to toe Prada outfit. But it's like eras of it. You know what I mean?

[Co-host 2]

Designer head to toe is tough or it makes it come off as a certain type of guy.

[Sebastian Jean]

It is.

[Co-host 1]

But you even.

[Sebastian Jean]

You wouldn't even notice it. I don't know. I'm like. Because, like the dress shirt, no logo. You know, the Prada jeans might have like a triangle emblem.

[Co-host 2]

Do you stay away from the big triangle product stuff? Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

I mean, if it's nylon, it's tough because it's like just kind of on it. But like, you know, I have some like linear Rosa stuff. Some stuff that just has no embossed embellishments on it.

[Co-host 2]

Are you going to get on board with the Prada skinny jeans that rap?

[Sebastian Jean]

Nah, it's going to be tough. I don't think even if I wanted to get on board that I could Physically get in and on board, bro. But can't.

[Co-host 2]

Someone can come pre pinroll.

[Sebastian Jean]

Someone can.

[Co-host 1]

You know, real quick, I want to quickly revisit the high low thing. I see that weirdly being. And maybe this is just me. I'm seeing it slowly but surely being rebranded as has, like, this idea of, like, tension in your outfit. Like, if I was a talking head on ig and it's like, almost like another way now we're Trojan horsing. This personal style that James is talking about with. With. It can't just be high low. It has to be this highfalutin intellectualization of tension in an outfit.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of that is, like, right. That's where the whole flip flop comes from. Right? Because people are, like. Are seeing flip flops as this, like, subversive item that, like, is gonna, like, make or break their shitty outfit, you know?

[Co-host 1]

Know.

[Sebastian Jean]

And it's just not that. And it's definitely not that when, like, everyone is on the same mindset of this. This one piece.

[Co-host 2]

What do you think as a stylist, then? Because you have the macro view when. Because it seems to us that. And I don't think this has always been the case, but it feels like current recently. And currently trends have just been a specific item where if you buy said item, you are now on trend.

[Sebastian Jean]

Absolutely.

[Co-host 2]

Versus, like, a subculture or some sort of aesthetic.

[Sebastian Jean]

Absolute look 100. It's just like, you know.

[Co-host 2]

Or do you think that's. That's valid?

[Sebastian Jean]

No, I think that's definitely valid. It's like, because people are just doing flip flops with that. I'm gonna keep going back to flip flops because that's just, like, the prime example of, like, the past year and a half, Right. However long it's been. Right.

[Co-host 1]

Two years.

[Sebastian Jean]

Just like, all right.

[Co-host 2]

Like, flip flops.

[Sebastian Jean]

Flip flops and cargo pants, flip flops and basketball shorts and my, like, high school basketball T shirt. Like, and that's like, an outfit, you know, like a cool necklace. And I can run around the city and, like, be a fashion person.

[Co-host 1]

Get hoes.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. You know, it's just like, all right. It's exhausting. And I think that, like, honestly, like, what is personal style at this point? I don't know that there is. And I think the real personal style. Right. And this is something I've been thinking about when I think about, like, event space, for example, right? Like a shop that, like, has entered a neighborhood. Right. Like, I grew up in Brooklyn running around Carol Gardens, right. Like, there was Nothing like that. And you know, Chris Green has brought something into that with a goodbye that like allows these. You know, there's a bunch of dads there. Like, you know, people are like making decent bread, right. Who like want to go and explore fashion. And they're doing it in an interesting way because the buy advent space is really good. You can go, they can explore, you can find out about shit. You can have a real, actual personal style journey if you will. You know, as opposed to like, you know, going to a department store and getting beat in the head buying all this shit that you think is cool. You can actually go to events, event space or a larger song or chm.

[Co-host 2]

And like you'll have to go in there and make decisions and not you still. I want that. I want that mannequin 100%.

[Sebastian Jean]

I want.

[Co-host 2]

Chris Green is wearing head to toe.

[Sebastian Jean]

But the thing with that is that like you enter these environments, like you can kind of trip over something and like put something good together I feel like.

[Co-host 1]

But also now also in Carol Gardens every pair of feet behind a stroller are in Paraboot Michaels. And it's like that's because of. I mean obviously par boots are very popular but that's because like boom, they're right there. So it's also like double edged sword I think.

[Co-host 2]

Let's, let's go, let's go to the source on. On brands real quick. I mean part of your job is spotlighting new talent and like enabling and encouraging and facilitating their success. Who are some small designers and emerging brands that you have your eye on right now?

[Sebastian Jean]

I mean I think a big one for me has been recently definitely Emily Donlong, I think that MVP of Paris fashion, the queen, you know, like the level of like community that she's been able to foster and then just also like the fun good shit that she makes is just like exactly how I want to be dressing and how I kind of want to see people dressed. You know, these like are you a spoiled boy? I would say I'm not. Not a spoiled boy. You can't be a 900 denim and not be spoiled. That's a fact.

[Co-host 1]

That's a fact.

[Sebastian Jean]

Fact.

[Co-host 1]

He's got self. A self aware king. You like the personality and the like the having fun with getting dressed that is inherently baked into our clothes.

[Sebastian Jean]

100. Yeah. It's cool, it's fun, it's sustainable.

[Co-host 1]

Sure.

[Sebastian Jean]

You know like a lot of like the vintage teas are great and, and you know it's. I like to see like that as

[Co-host 2]

is the cut and so like her. My name is Jeff.

[Sebastian Jean]

Shirt 100. Great shirt.

[Co-host 2]

Polos.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yep. Yep.

[Co-host 2]

Gallagher pulled up to outside the Kiko show, and I was like, is that vintage calm? He's like, no, it's edl.

[Co-host 1]

Wow.

[Co-host 2]

Damn.

[Sebastian Jean]

That's a crazy compliment. You fast? Hell, yeah.

[Co-host 1]

She's got a lot of ready to wear that because people are focused on those amazing tea drops and then, like, you know, but there's a lot there.

[Sebastian Jean]

And it's cool to watch her kind of capitalize off of culture moments, you know, like the Knicks cap that she did.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, true.

[Sebastian Jean]

Like, all those little things that just like, make a good brand for me right now, I think.

[Co-host 2]

What brands besides Prada? Yeah, what brands? And Vori. What a weird word. What brands you wear the most?

[Sebastian Jean]

What brands are. Wear the most? I would say combination.

[Co-host 2]

Contemporary or vintage.

[Sebastian Jean]

It's a mix. There's always something I'll find across the. The CDG universe.

[Co-host 2]

There's a comb jacket at that store. Fabric Fabrics in Bushwick.

[Sebastian Jean]

I've never been.

[Co-host 2]

They were in midtown and they moved over there.

[Sebastian Jean]

Okay.

[Co-host 2]

They have a good selection of Stein.

[Sebastian Jean]

Nice. Stein. Great, great brand.

[Co-host 1]

Great styling, too.

[Sebastian Jean]

I don't own any of it, but another one that I really with.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, dude, you got your first piece.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, I got some shit.

[Co-host 1]

It's over for you, bro. Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Heroin. I'm doing meta ads so I can afford more Stein. No, I'm not, but. And yeah, they had a comb jacket that I like, almost dropped 750 on.

[Co-host 1]

On sale.

[Co-host 2]

A crazy sale, but can't do that.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. All right.

[Co-host 2]

Comb.

[Sebastian Jean]

Comb.

[Co-host 2]

Ralph Ralph.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Oh, my God. So we're talking about the wedding earlier. I wanna. I think I might wanna wear. Wear Ralph Ralph for the wedding.

[Co-host 2]

Purple.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

Let's see. I want to go in for fitting and figure that out. But I was really impressed by the show in Milan, and I thought that was really great. And it's like, they've been doing this, and they haven't stopped doing what they've done well, but it was just packaged really well. And I think that it had a really good moment. And just like, a reminder to everyone that, like, hey, all these codes that you see being slapped around left and right, these are our codes. And we're kind of taking that, taking them back.

[Co-host 2]

How does it make you feel when, like, a new generation of men's or content creators like, yo, Ralph, you guys got to check out this brand. It's like, it's been this.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, 100%.

[Co-host 2]

It's just kind of like, while it's A steady, steady Eddie. Everyone's kind of like as.

[Sebastian Jean]

As in and out of it.

[Co-host 2]

The greater macro things vastly. Now we're just back another Ralph for sure.

[Co-host 1]

People need reminders.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, I think it's fine. I think it's fine for people to get reminders. And I think that it's one of those brands that is, you know, universal enough where it won't hurt it. You know, RA is not going to get hit by it's, you know, just because. Yeah, exactly. It's not going to be like. Like a spike and then an immediate drop for them.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

You know, as it happens with a lot of brands that get that kind of love.

[Co-host 2]

Right. Okay. Anyone else? Calm Ralph.

[Sebastian Jean]

I wear a lot of outdoor. Like, you know, satisfy district vision, you know. No, I'm not. But like just running TE's in my day to day just like makes sense. You know, I love a good technical fashion.

[Co-host 2]

Fabric, moisture, sweat wicking facts. Sweat wicking. What brands do you personally. You never wear, but you love working with like on set and whatnot.

[Sebastian Jean]

Personally, I pull a lot of what I would want to wear. I mean, I'm not. Let's just. I'm not necessarily a Dior guy. Right. But I do like some of what John has been doing. It's fun to use and I think I could see myself else in it. I just don't have any of it yet. Wink, wink. Oh, just kidding. They don't gift.

[Co-host 2]

Are you gonna start wearing your tie like that?

[Sebastian Jean]

Honestly, I thought about it. There's like a huge. I forgot the name of the tie, but it looks like an artichoke the way that it's not Jesus. And I was like, this is hard. Like, this would be like rehearsal dinner. This would be dope as.

[Co-host 2]

But are you gonna wear it like over the.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, all up.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. I mean, that's the kind of my vibe too. Like a little bit disheveled, you know, it's like. Like I didn't think too hard about this. Exactly. Did I tell you the story about the whole sp out your.

[Co-host 1]

No. What?

[Sebastian Jean]

Me and my boy started a vlog. Not a vlog, A blog. A fashion blog. And we named it Espura because I had come at on Twitter. I think I came at like John Boy on Twitter.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, what?

[Sebastian Jean]

And I came at the king.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

I was like, yo, it's like this. I was like, yo, there's wild, like spelling mistakes in this article.

[Co-host 2]

On four pins.

[Sebastian Jean]

On four pins.

[Co-host 1]

Oh. Because I was dead.

[Sebastian Jean]

And I was like, if you want to hire me, let me know. And he. And he tweeted back at me. He's like, those aren't. Those aren't grammatical errors. It's Prozacial. I was like, what the is that? And then I googled.

[Co-host 1]

He called his grammatical er espura.

[Sebastian Jean]

He referred.

[Co-host 1]

That's the moy difference.

[Sebastian Jean]

And I was like. I was like, what the is that? And I googled it. And I was like, oh, this is the most amazing word ever. This is like. This is like 2016.

[Co-host 1]

And then you named a blog after.

[Sebastian Jean]

With their blog after blog still up. No, it's not. No. I think we stopped paying for the. The godaddy Internet.

[Co-host 1]

The way back machine.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, I was pumping some good on there.

[Co-host 2]

We are getting married to facts. Have you. Okay. Have you put more thought into the food, the music and flowers or what your fit is going to be? Because I think the last time I talked about it. Yeah, it was like, yeah. Oh, no.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. No, I think since then, we have a venue, we have a date. The. The menu has been selected for the most part. We still need a wedding photographer, so I need to find a dj. But all that, I feel like I'm like, we can get closer to. And like, I have enough of a network work that, like, we can find someone good.

[Co-host 1]

Sure. Might be available.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, hopefully. Fingers crossed. But I'm not looking for, like, we're not looking for traditional wedding photos. Right. We want, like, some. Cool. Okay.

[Co-host 2]

So the wedding at the altar. The wedding day, Ralph.

[Sebastian Jean]

Maybe potentially.

[Co-host 2]

Have you thought about the rehearsal dinner Friday night?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Sunday brunch.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Yeah. So rehearsal dinner.

[Co-host 2]

I'm like, your party fit.

[Sebastian Jean]

I'm like, you know, do I go with like. Yeah, like, I like the JW stuff. Maybe some Celine. I don't know. There's a lot that I like there. But also, I don't want to spend the grip on just what I'm wearing.

[Co-host 1]

Is there a dress code? Is it black tie?

[Sebastian Jean]

No, we're doing it upstate. We're doing it in the. In Catskill. So actually, that's why I was up there this past week, because we had.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, so the food's gonna be fire.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, it's like all farm to table, like, really good. And we had actually never seen the venue in full bloom because we went to go visit in like, January, like, snow everywhere. Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

Made a good call.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. So the photos, you know, we're.

[Co-host 2]

Are you timing the wedding so that you can get some of Michael Ryder Saleem?

[Sebastian Jean]

Not intentionally, but if it works out that way. Wow.

[Co-host 1]

You know, wow, look at that.

[Sebastian Jean]

Look at that.

[Co-host 2]

Spring 27s looking good.

[Sebastian Jean]

You know, actually, that does line up really well.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. Almost like it was intentional.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Loki, are you gonna style the groomsman at all?

[Sebastian Jean]

No, we're not doing the broader party and grooms party. We're just gonna be just ourselves up there.

[Co-host 1]

Okay. Well, I guess a couple, but what's

[Co-host 2]

been the hardest part about punies?

[Sebastian Jean]

What in hardest part? Definitely the guest list. Shit. I think there's, like, so much politics around that. Not that we're dealing with politics, but just, like, you don't want to piss anyone off. You want to do something that's intentional and, like, somewhat small. But it's so hard to do when, like, you know so many people. And then also everyone you know is in a relationship.

[Co-host 1]

A lot of plus ones.

[Sebastian Jean]

Plus ones really get heavy. It's expensive and it's tough, you know, and it's like, you want to do something where, like, both of us know everyone who's going to be there, be present, at least to a certain degree. And it's difficult to do.

[Co-host 2]

You guys just have big families, decent sized families. What's the rule where it's like, yo, if you've been with someone for over a year.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Come as a person.

[Sebastian Jean]

So what we've been doing is just like, there's like a term, right? Like, no ring, no bring. But we're not gonna be that. We're not gonna be that. Damn, dude.

[Co-host 1]

Sounds like a Noah Johnson policy at the office, bro. That's a bit fascist.

[Sebastian Jean]

But I think that, like, our cut off, right? If, like, if the couple doesn't live together, then it's like. Cause.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

If you're not currently, like, roommates, then it's. It might be clipped.

[Co-host 2]

No room, no bride and groom.

[Sebastian Jean]

No room, no bride and groom. Sorry.

[Co-host 2]

There you go. All right. What are you thinking for the honeymoon?

[Sebastian Jean]

I don't know. Honestly, I've been really not. I think we might go somewhere just, like, by the beach.

[Co-host 1]

Nice.

[Sebastian Jean]

My girl's from Miami, so tropical. She loves the water and I do, too. So maybe like, a coastal town, you know, spend some time in Maine or some. Oh, weddings are expensive, so I'm not really trying to off to some, like, you know, European lavish.

[Co-host 1]

Right, right, right.

[Co-host 2]

Flip flops. You got to wear with the flip flops.

[Sebastian Jean]

I can't do that. So I think maybe somewhere we can drive to that's, like, along the, you know, little road trip.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, that'll be a nice little test. Right.

[Sebastian Jean]

After you get there, spring the bread, spin the bread. On like good food and. And where we stay and.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. On yourselves.

[Co-host 2]

What do you like to spend your money on? Besides Prada?

[Sebastian Jean]

Besides Prada, Yeah. I like. Well, I. Outside of not having a watch, I do like watches and I'm thinking about my next watch because I need to have a watch for the wedding.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. What's the thought?

[Sebastian Jean]

I got a lot of things. Thoughts. A lot of thoughts.

[Co-host 1]

Cartier tank.

[Sebastian Jean]

I think n. I've done the tank. I think right now top of mind is like a really nice. Like Patek Philippe, like Katra, you know, something like that. Yeah. Fp Dr. I was looking at too.

[Host/Ad Reader]

Oh.

[Co-host 1]

Little Timmy number.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. You know, but yeah, I want to get something nice and I just. I want to get something that feels good and you know, so tbd. But okay. Also whips. I love cars too.

[Co-host 2]

What are you whipping?

[Sebastian Jean]

I have two cars. One of them is currently in New York. I have a Vintage Range Rover P38 Shout out to HOV.

[Co-host 2]

That's New York.

[Sebastian Jean]

That's in Georgia. In storage. Yeah. No, it's green over tan.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, classic. Oh, the zud board mobile.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

And then you could rent those out to info photo shoot.

[Co-host 2]

Super boxy one.

[Sebastian Jean]

I could rent it out if it moved.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, true. Yeah. Those are money pits.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, big time. And then I have a. I have a Cayenne Porsche. Cayenne in the city.

[Co-host 1]

That's the everyday.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. 2016. For the record. You say you got a Porsche, everyone's like, oh, I got money.

[Co-host 1]

Certified pre owned.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, exactly. I'm benefiting off of the depreciation of these whips. So you go. You get something that's like 8 to 10 years old and you can get something nice.

[Co-host 2]

Okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

One of some of the best advice I've heard with cars. Shout out Jonathan, is get the best car you can afford in the smallest engine possible. Possible.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Sebastian Jean]

And that is like goated advice.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Host/Ad Reader]

Performance.

[Sebastian Jean]

Just one.

[Co-host 1]

You want it to look good.

[Sebastian Jean]

Get the good. Get the good engine. Get the entry level base model and rock with it.

[Co-host 2]

Does it have Bluetooth?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, actually, I'm gonna. My birthday present to myself is I'm gonna retrofit it with apple carplay suit.

[Co-host 2]

Okay.

[Co-host 1]

Right now you're working with a CD disc changer.

[Sebastian Jean]

Nah, it's got boots, but it's just

[Co-host 2]

like 20sixties run out of the cusp player.

[Sebastian Jean]

It's not seamless enough. So I want the carplay. The. And it's, you know, they did carplay right after my model year. So it like has a capacity for

[Co-host 2]

it, but is There a dumb purchase you. That you've made recently?

[Sebastian Jean]

No, actually, this is my year. I usually. I make a dumb purchase around my birthday. Oh, like the Cayenne I bought in 2024.

[Co-host 2]

As your birthday?

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

So the range. The Range Rover crapped out on me, and I was like, this, like, went to a dealership and I was like, I need to feel something,

[Co-host 1]

and that needs to be. That needs to be an accel. An accelerator pedal that works.

[Sebastian Jean]

Which has been great. But no, I haven't actually made any dumbass purchases is as of yet.

[Co-host 1]

With the wedding coming up, you probably don't want to.

[Sebastian Jean]

No, I don't. And there's, like. I think I've, like, learned my lessons as far as, like, up a bag of, like, being in a really good financial position and then making a dumbass decision and then getting out of a really good financial position. So I'm, like, done with that cycle and I've learned my lesson time and time again. So for the moment, it sounds like

[Co-host 2]

you're in a decent place. Like, as. As a grown man, as an adult, what's the brokest you've ever been broke?

[Sebastian Jean]

As I've ever been, thankfully, like, ever too crazy broke. But, like, like, I don't like to be in debt. Right. When I see my credit cards reach a certain place, I'm like, like, this. This frustrates me. So I've never been, like, balls to the wall, like, I couldn't eat. But, like, I've been in points where I was like, you should not buy this.

[Co-host 1]

Right.

[Sebastian Jean]

You don't need this.

[Co-host 1]

How does that, you know, internal dialogue usually go? Do you end up getting it, though?

[Sebastian Jean]

I mean, sometimes I'm like it. But then, like, you know, we've all read and learn about lifestyle creep, and I'm following enough financial podcast that it's just, like, I've learned my lesson and I know, like, I gotta chill out. Sure.

[Co-host 2]

You gotta sell that range, bro.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, no, the thing is, I think I'd benefit more as, like, using it as a sculpture than, like, getting lowballed on Facebook marketplace for, like.

[Co-host 2]

Okay, honestly, you know how, like, influencers do. Do, like, the fake pre PJ photo shoot? Oh, yeah, with the range.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Honestly, I mean, I'm gonna fix it eventually. Eventually there's gonna be one day where, like, I'm gonna just sink 10k into it and just have it and, like, use it locally. Locally. Okay.

[Co-host 1]

That is, like, the platonic ideal of a menswear influencer, like, vehicle. I'm not saying that's why you have it but green over tan?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, no, it's. But it's a good one.

[Co-host 2]

You know, like a New Yorker nowhere hat.

[Co-host 1]

Yo. Deadass.

[Sebastian Jean]

Okay. All right. No, it's got a little four wheels. It's a little bit better than that.

[Co-host 2]

Georgia or Norway or nowhere. Is there anything that you're really cheap about that you refuse to spend money on?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, actually. And that's the kind of shit that I like to get as gifts. Like, my fiance got me a Criterion Collection subscription, and she also paid for my global entry for this next five years.

[Co-host 1]

Wow. She's the one.

[Co-host 2]

It's like 75.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, but, like, it's a. That I don't want to, like, think about.

[Co-host 1]

Right.

[Sebastian Jean]

It's like, I'd rather go and buy a jacket for 1500. And, like, clearly, you know, it's like, ah, it. I'll get. I cannot have global entry and still get past.

[Co-host 2]

But you still got to go to the appointment and, like, interview.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, I do. I do. But at least it's like, go to jfk.

[Co-host 1]

But she applied for you. You're like, yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

And showed you all that.

[Co-host 1]

Just physically she handles.

[Sebastian Jean]

It's like little small things. I'm just like, ah, it's a claw to do this. Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Then you don't have to get married.

[Sebastian Jean]

True. Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

But you don't even need AI if you have a wife.

[Sebastian Jean]

But then I gotta. But then I gotta get a Mac Mini, bro. And those are, like, still backlog.

[Co-host 2]

A laptop.

[Sebastian Jean]

Nah, the Mac Mini. So you can process. Because you want. You don't want to run it on a personal laptop.

[Co-host 2]

Why not?

[Sebastian Jean]

Because it's, like, open source still.

[Co-host 2]

All right?

[Co-host 1]

That's why I don't use it. That's why I just got married and have a wife. Because I don't want to AI.

[Sebastian Jean]

There we go.

[Co-host 2]

Sebastian, before we get you out of here.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Know you're coming up on time here. Do you have any constructive criticisms you would like to give us?

[Co-host 1]

Floor is yours.

[Co-host 2]

How can we be better? Do we start to start putting text over photos like, I like.

[Sebastian Jean]

That's not bad, actually. And, you know, you guys got better. You got.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah. Shout out. The guy I met at the Rick show. I forget his name.

[Sebastian Jean]

Oh, Danil.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Daniel.

[Co-host 1]

I thought Trey was the Trey.

[Sebastian Jean]

Shout out to Trey.

[Co-host 1]

Trey farted.

[Sebastian Jean]

It's Danil. Trey.

[Co-host 1]

Yo, follow Trey. Instagram, right?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Trey farted.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah. Shout out to Trey.

[Co-host 2]

Did Trey fart?

[Sebastian Jean]

Trey actually sits behind me and I haven't heard him fart yet or some of them Fart. So hopefully we keep farting on him. No, no, no.

[Co-host 1]

No respect, man. Each one fart on.

[Sebastian Jean]

No, no. Also, no dookies at the office, too. That's another one.

[Co-host 1]

What is. If you have to take a poop, go somewhere else.

[Sebastian Jean]

Just do it in the.

[Co-host 2]

Fix your digestion. All right? How could you Better. No dookies in the office.

[Sebastian Jean]

N. You guys are great.

[Co-host 2]

When you use the bathroom, you got the.

[Sebastian Jean]

You got the cho. Chico. You gave me the option of cold water or room temp with.

[Co-host 2]

Some people prefer room temp because you digest it better.

[Sebastian Jean]

The chair is good. It's got a nice, lean.

[Co-host 2]

Herman.

[Co-host 1]

Millie baby.

[Sebastian Jean]

No Miller. Maybe like a little bit of carpeting

[Co-host 2]

in here or something where I'm talking to someone.

[Sebastian Jean]

Okay. I got a homie that Nordic knots.

[Co-host 2]

I'm talking to someone at nk.

[Sebastian Jean]

Nice. Nice.

[Co-host 2]

That's my Evan Kanori.

[Sebastian Jean]

Nice.

[Co-host 2]

All right, Carpeting for the audio.

[Co-host 1]

Where can the kids follow you? What do you want to plug.

[Sebastian Jean]

Go plug. We're about to drop our September issue soon. That's obviously happening in September. Who's on the COVID I can't tell you who's on the COVID but we have some really nice ones.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, multiples.

[Co-host 2]

It's always free.

[Sebastian Jean]

We usually do a little trifecta. Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, I'm curious, because I'm not gonna say too much.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

But Noah Johnson's my. My Fashion Week road dog.

[Co-host 1]

Right.

[Sebastian Jean]

So we're like.

[Co-host 2]

He's like, oh, like he was soliciting suggestions on covers.

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

And I had a suggestion. He's like, that's actually really good. I'm gonna try and make that happen. Happen.

[Co-host 1]

Damn. Opera Steve was available.

[Co-host 2]

We'll talk off mic.

[Sebastian Jean]

Okay. Yeah. I'll tell you if you're read or not.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Co-host 2]

All right, so September issue dropping in September.

[Sebastian Jean]

Dropping September. I don't know. I'm just really excited to get into fall. Have the leaves fall from the.

[Co-host 1]

What's your IG handle?

[Sebastian Jean]

Subjective. S, E, B, J, E, C, T, I V, E. Great. Follow.

[Co-host 2]

Follow this man for his big ass brain that you just listened to for an hour 24. And his silly hats and his wacky hats. Yo, any wacky hats for fall?

[Sebastian Jean]

Yeah, actually, I got some on the. On the mood board. We'll see. I'm gonna come ahead.

[Co-host 2]

You do that. Do you do mood boarding?

[Sebastian Jean]

So I'll go and I'll, like, make a little fold on my desktop of, like, oh, I want to cop for the fall.

[Co-host 1]

Ah.

[Sebastian Jean]

Just so I remember it, because sometimes I'll see something and I'LL forget about it.

[Co-host 2]

And then I remember it from like Runway photos.

[Sebastian Jean]

Runway photos. Just scouring webshops, storing visits, all that. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

[Co-host 2]

I wish I was that.

[Co-host 1]

This man's a professional dude, you know?

[Co-host 2]

All right, go follow Sebastian. Sebastian, thank you for coming on to the only.

[Sebastian Jean]

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