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Release Date: June 25, 2025

Introduction to The Mexican OT

In this engaging episode of Throwing Fits, hosts Zoe Saldana and Virgil welcome the dynamic and charismatic rapper, The Mexican OT. The conversation delves deep into his journey in the music industry, his cultural heritage, and his upcoming projects.

Cultural Heritage and Identity

The Mexican OT opens up about his Mexican heritage, addressing the challenges of embracing his cultural identity despite not speaking Spanish fluently. He shares his frustrations with critics who question his authenticity, stating:

"You can't take that away from me. It's in my DNA, jackass. You know, like, you can't. You can't tell me I'm not Mexican, you know what I'm saying?"
(22:20)

He proudly identifies as a "TEHANO" (a blend of Texan and Mexican) from Bay City, Texas, emphasizing his deep-rooted connection to his cultural background.

Creativity in Rap and Industry Critique

A significant portion of the discussion centers around The Mexican OT's perspective on creativity in the rap industry. He criticizes many contemporary rappers for lacking genuine creativity, arguing that success often stems from social media prowess rather than lyrical talent:

"There's people out there that want it, you know what I'm saying? But that grinding, that hustle, make anything relevant. It won't be jammed, though, you know what I'm saying? But it'll be known, Right? There's a difference."
(49:25)

He laments the trend where rappers become famous primarily through relentless posting and image management, often at the expense of authentic artistry.

Musical Influences and Upcoming Projects

The Mexican OT discusses his upcoming album, "RECESS," set to drop on August 22nd, highlighting his inspiration from late '90s and early 2000s music. He reflects on how this era's music brought him joy during difficult times, linking his nostalgic influences to his current work:

"A lot of this music give me that. This nostalgic feel and I think it's gonna give the world that feel too."
(54:23)

Collaborations with notable artists like Wayne and Paul Wall are also touched upon, showcasing his connections within the Texas music scene.

Personal Lifestyle and Hobbies

The conversation takes a fun turn as The Mexican OT shares his personal interests outside of music. From his extensive grill collection to his love for mudding with four-wheelers, he paints a vivid picture of his everyday life:

Grills and Fashion: Proud owner of six grills, he discusses his preference for gold invisible sets and credits Johnny Dang and Paul Wall for their craftsmanship.

"I got diamonds on my pipe to this thing."
(21:53)
Mudding and Vehicles: An avid mudder, The Mexican OT talks about his love for four-wheelers and the thrill of off-roading in his custom trucks.

"Yeah, I'm getting a car tired to inner tube and dragging us on the land. We're racing tractors, drifting, zero turns."
(25:30)
Music Preferences: Beyond rap, he enjoys rock, jazz, and country music, citing artists like Linkin Park, Stevie Wonder, and Pantera as significant influences.

Experiences with Fame and Career Challenges

Reflecting on his rise in the music industry, The Mexican OT shares candid insights into the pressures and expectations that come with fame. He emphasizes staying true to himself amidst external opinions:

"They love me because I sold myself. You know what I'm saying? They love me."
(50:32)

He also touches upon the importance of focusing on what truly matters—his family and genuine connections—over fleeting social media validation.

Future Aspirations and Projects

Looking ahead, The Mexican OT expresses his ambition to expand beyond music:

Nail Salons: Inspired by observing women's investment in self-care, he plans to open nail salons, viewing it as a recession-proof business venture.

"It's deeper than the nails. Like they gonna spend money on themselves."
(32:35)
Rodeo Events: A nod to his Texan roots, he envisions hosting rodeo events featuring performances, mud busting, and bull riding to engage and entertain the community.

"We'll have our performances. You know what I'm saying? Mud busting for the kids."
(44:45)

Closing Thoughts and Album Release

As the interview wraps up, The Mexican OT passionately discusses his album "RECESS," highlighting its nostalgic essence and the personal pain that fueled his creative process:

"I connect that music with that time."
(54:23)

He remains unapologetic about his artistic choices, confident that his work will resonate with his core audience despite potential criticisms.

"I'm happy about the project. You know what I'm saying? But it's not like, oh, this made me happy, but it don't bring me joy."
(56:57)

He encourages listeners to embrace his music for its authenticity and the genuine emotions it conveys.

Notable Quotes

On Authenticity:
"You can't take that away from me. It's in my DNA."
(22:20)
On Creativity in Rap:
"There's a difference. You're either gonna like it or you're not."
(56:55)
On Personal Happiness:
"The moment that music made me happy, so I put it in the project."
(54:56)

Conclusion

This episode of Throwing Fits offers a raw and unfiltered glimpse into The Mexican OT's life, his unwavering commitment to authenticity in his art, and his diverse interests that define him beyond the stage. Listeners gain valuable insights into the complexities of maintaining cultural identity, the struggles of creative integrity within a commercially driven industry, and the personal passions that fuel his multifaceted persona.

Follow The Mexican OT:

Album Release: "RECESS" – August 22nd, 2025
Tour: Starting post-album release
Social Media: Follow @TheMexicanOT (Ensure correct spelling to find his official profiles)

Stay tuned to Throwing Fits for more in-depth interviews and candid conversations with influential figures navigating the modern zeitgeist.

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[00:00]
Zoe Saldana
Hi, Zoe Saldana. Welcome to T Mobile. Here's your new iPhone 16 Pro on us. Thanks. And here's my old phone to trade in.
[00:07]
That Mexican OT
You don't need to trade in.
[00:08]
Zoe Saldana
When you switch to T Mobile, we'll give you a new iPhone 16 Pro. Plus we'll help you pay off your old phone. Up to 800 bucks and you still.
[00:15]
Virgil
Get to keep it.
[00:15]
That Mexican OT
There's always a trade in.
[00:17]
Zoe Saldana
Not right now. At T Mobile.
[00:18]
That Mexican OT
I feel like I have to give.
[00:19]
Zoe Saldana
You something in return for karma. That's okay. I don't really have much in my purse. Oh, let's see. Hand sanitizer.
[00:25]
That Mexican OT
It's lavender.
[00:26]
Zoe Saldana
I'm good. Seriously. Let me check this pocket.
[00:29]
Virgil
Oh, mints.
[00:30]
Zoe Saldana
Really, I'm fine. Oh, I have raisins. I'm a mom.
[00:33]
That Mexican OT
Wait, wait one sec. I've got cupcakes in the car.
[00:35]
Zoe Saldana
It's our best iPhone offer ever. Switch to T Mobile.
[00:39]
Virgil
Get a new iPhone 16 Pro with.
[00:40]
Zoe Saldana
Apple intelligence on us.
[00:42]
Virgil
No trade in needed. We'll even pay off your Phone up.
[00:44]
Zoe Saldana
To 800 bucks with 24 monthly bill credits. New line, $100 plus a month on.
[00:49]
Virgil
Experience beyond finance agreement. $999.99 and qualifying.
[00:52]
That Mexican OT
Ported for well qualified.
[00:53]
Virgil
Plus tax and $10 connection charge.
[00:55]
Zoe Saldana
Pay off via virtual prepaid card.
[00:56]
That Mexican OT
Allow 15 days credits end and balance.
[00:58]
Zoe Saldana
Due if you pay off early or.
[00:59]
That Mexican OT
Cancel mobile dot com.
[01:01]
Virgil
Psst.
[01:02]
That Mexican OT
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[01:30]
Zoe Saldana
Throw gang. We are joined by the head honcho of hooks, the titan of trill, the ATV MVP his engineer must be named Joe cuz the mixon got Houston running it back only dimes, no nicks but the cannon got him drums and lines he go and tore out the rodeo and the fish scale Call him Virgil cuz he got designs on these checks he put a black hole in your head that's Astrodome oh, you're not with that Mexan OT how about you? That Mexican o tickle these nuts he's loco because the stream's going crazy Not A commandante, but he's running the H the Baron of the barrio, the titan of trill you take El's and goon he the El Chingon fuck 12 but he must follow blue law how he's shutting down these bars he got your bitch at Hibachi because he's going crazy on the grills Call him Schn post game how he got the Rockets talking ready with the Luger he must be Freddy Krueger how he's killing me 16 sipping mud and whipping slugs his album recess is dropping August 22nd artist that Mexican ot that Mexican ot hello? Are you.
[02:18]
That Mexican OT
Whoa.
[02:19]
Virgil
Virgil in the building.
[02:21]
Zoe Saldana
Sorry. I wasn't trilling my Rs and ends or anything. You know, like, how you doing?
[02:26]
That Mexican OT
I ain't gonna lie. You're done, bro. Stupid game.
[02:28]
Virgil
This man is stupid as.
[02:30]
That Mexican OT
Hey, nah, stupid and dumb is good.
[02:32]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah. Thank you for joining us in your quick sojourn up here in New York. And we're glad that you brought the yo yo, too.
[02:40]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Shout out. My boy Vision came with some. Some bud.
[02:44]
Virgil
This is a toy that came with your weed, to be clear.
[02:46]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, so it's like. It's like 60. Was it an eighth or something like that? 60 and eighth. But if you get two of them, you get two for 100 and you.
[02:56]
Virgil
Get a toy and two yo yos.
[02:58]
Zoe Saldana
You're losing money if you don't buy a quarter.
[03:00]
That Mexican OT
Right? You might as well get two yo yos and two ways.
[03:03]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah.
[03:03]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[03:04]
Zoe Saldana
All right.
[03:05]
Virgil
Well, listen, Virgil, we're so happy to have you. Real quick, before we start, we want to do a little fit check. Why don't you walk us through what you wore today to pod what's on the dogs. I got some sandals, some chancletas.
[03:15]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Hell yeah. I normally like wearing my boots, but, man, they gave me shin splits when I swear them too much.
[03:22]
Zoe Saldana
Too hot out here today. Made for cowboy boots.
[03:24]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, but these are comfortable. I love my sandals.
[03:27]
Zoe Saldana
Are you nice with the chunkletta? Like with the. With the aim?
[03:30]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[03:32]
Virgil
Whipping that like a goddamn boomerang.
[03:34]
That Mexican OT
Nah, I get it in there and back for sure. Nah. But yeah, my shout out, my boy Caesar, he got a brand called Slump. These are his shorts.
[03:43]
Virgil
Nice.
[03:45]
That Mexican OT
This shirt, I think it's called. I think it's being that boys club. I don't know what it is.
[03:51]
Zoe Saldana
It's got the Big Dog on it.
[03:53]
Virgil
Yeah, yeah.
[03:54]
That Mexican OT
Big Dog.
[03:55]
Virgil
Big Dog. Antichrist.
[03:56]
That Mexican OT
Really just. I really just like it, though, because the. The fit of the shirt. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I like how it fits.
[04:01]
Virgil
You look brolic.
[04:02]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, you look what?
[04:04]
Virgil
Brolic. You look like.
[04:05]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah, with the Mexican. Bronson.
[04:07]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Oh, that's sick.
[04:08]
Zoe Saldana
As action brought to Leno.
[04:10]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, definitely. I just with it.
[04:13]
Zoe Saldana
What about the spectacles?
[04:15]
That Mexican OT
Demonte. Shout out my boy Demonte. He blessed me with these right here.
[04:18]
Virgil
Very nice. And the chains.
[04:20]
That Mexican OT
Johnny. Shout out.
[04:23]
Zoe Saldana
Johnny as well. Damn.
[04:25]
Virgil
Sparkling.
[04:26]
That Mexican OT
Shout out Johnny.
[04:27]
Virgil
Hell yeah, dude.
[04:28]
Zoe Saldana
And then what about. What about the undies?
[04:31]
That Mexican OT
FTP Pro club.
[04:32]
Zoe Saldana
Okay.
[04:34]
That Mexican OT
Professional Shout out. FTP, Shout out Pro Club. Love you both.
[04:38]
Zoe Saldana
And you are sipping on some water double cupped up.
[04:41]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[04:41]
Zoe Saldana
All right.
[04:42]
That Mexican OT
Stay on your water, man. Don't be doing the soda. I gotta cut the soda.
[04:45]
Virgil
Yeah, really, man.
[04:46]
Zoe Saldana
Bro, like, what was your soda of choice?
[04:48]
That Mexican OT
Big Red.
[04:49]
Virgil
Yeah. He's a Texas boy through and through.
[04:51]
That Mexican OT
To the fullest, right? Yeah.
[04:54]
Virgil
That is so bad for you, dude.
[04:55]
That Mexican OT
Oh, bro. Horrible. But you gotta, man, you gotta understand my mama, she. I grew up her having them hoes hot as under the sink and we'd be down in those hot soda.
[05:07]
Virgil
Yeah, Hot cinnamon soda.
[05:09]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, that sick. I still drink it today. I remember my mama used to pull up in big red.
[05:14]
Zoe Saldana
For real, Are you besides cutting out soda, are you trying to get healthy?
[05:17]
That Mexican OT
No. Okay, that's fine.
[05:20]
Zoe Saldana
That's fine.
[05:21]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, I just want to cut soda out. Okay. That soda is like. It's just bad.
[05:24]
Virgil
It's a good place to start, dude. Yeah, we support you.
[05:27]
Zoe Saldana
You got lettuce on your burger. That's like getting a salad. Yeah, that's a green.
[05:32]
That Mexican OT
I do like lettuce a lot though. I love salads.
[05:35]
Zoe Saldana
You like your greens?
[05:36]
That Mexican OT
Greens Used to eat a load of salad.
[05:38]
Zoe Saldana
Really?
[05:38]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Hell yeah.
[05:39]
Zoe Saldana
What salad? What was your salad?
[05:40]
That Mexican OT
I used to eat salad with big red.
[05:42]
Virgil
That negates the.
[05:43]
Zoe Saldana
The progress. Dude.
[05:45]
That Mexican OT
For real.
[05:46]
Zoe Saldana
What type of salad would you be getting?
[05:47]
That Mexican OT
The HB ones. Those pre pack ones.
[05:49]
Virgil
Shout out heb.
[05:51]
That Mexican OT
Dude. Shout out.
[05:51]
Virgil
If you know, you know.
[05:52]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, right?
[05:53]
Virgil
Great products, dude.
[05:54]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything's better.
[05:56]
Virgil
Yeah, that's true.
[05:58]
Zoe Saldana
Fit check, drink check. Complete that mexing ot. Yeah, it was talked about the grill that you got in right now. How many. How many sets of grills do you own?
[06:08]
That Mexican OT
Maybe about six.
[06:09]
Zoe Saldana
Six?
[06:10]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[06:10]
Zoe Saldana
Almost one for every day of the week.
[06:12]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, almost. But I. I would. The invisible set is my favorite. I had a white gold. That was invisible set. This is my new one. It's gold invisible set. But the difference is. Well, besides it being gold, the diamonds are bigger. So they look like bigger windows.
[06:27]
Virgil
Everything's bigger in Texas.
[06:29]
That Mexican OT
There you go, hell yeah.
[06:30]
Virgil
How do you decide which girl to wear? Is it mood. Mood based? Fit based?
[06:36]
That Mexican OT
I guess I get like, if I ain't worn in a minute and I look there and see it, man, it.
[06:41]
Zoe Saldana
I thought, don't call him that. French ot. Even though he's got baguettes in the teeth.
[06:45]
That Mexican OT
Oh, there you go. You're hard, bro. I like this.
[06:48]
Zoe Saldana
Hey, I don't know if you know two record label.
[06:50]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[06:51]
Zoe Saldana
Signing anyone, but when you travel, do you bring all six with you?
[06:54]
That Mexican OT
Nah.
[06:55]
Zoe Saldana
Okay.
[06:55]
That Mexican OT
I just keep one.
[06:57]
Zoe Saldana
Would you ever do perms or do you not. Do you want the variety?
[07:00]
That Mexican OT
No. Yeah, not only do I want the variety, I like having my teeth.
[07:03]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah, that's why you cut the soda.
[07:06]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, right. Nah, but I just like, I got good looking teeth, you know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't really had to give veneers or nothing like that. And I never had braces either, so.
[07:14]
Virgil
Oh, look at you, dude.
[07:15]
That Mexican OT
I just was blessed with some good teeth, so I want to keep them.
[07:19]
Zoe Saldana
What's the most you've ever spent on a single grill?
[07:23]
That Mexican OT
30. 30, okay.
[07:26]
Zoe Saldana
Are you gonna do when the album comes out August 22nd? Do you celebrate by getting a new set?
[07:30]
That Mexican OT
No, no.
[07:31]
Virgil
How do you celebrate? You're not a club guy really. Right. We were talking about that. How do you. You just celebrate him with the close homies at the crib. Like what's like when the album comes out, how are we turning up?
[07:42]
That Mexican OT
I don't just drop it. Just drop it and work on the next one.
[07:47]
Virgil
Okay.
[07:47]
Zoe Saldana
And the tour right after, right?
[07:49]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, that's how we celebrate. We go on tour.
[07:52]
Virgil
I see the people. You see the people shake hands, kiss babies, etc.
[07:55]
That Mexican OT
No, I love my people, man. Especially the ones that are still on my team because I've already been in this game long enough toward where I have talked about my beliefs and what I think in ways and. And some people don't agree with it and some people don't agree with it and they left me. And some people don't agree with it and they're like, that's just his opinion. I still love his music. Right.
[08:15]
Zoe Saldana
Did you notice people getting weirder around you as like your star rose?
[08:19]
That Mexican OT
Like my. In my circle?
[08:21]
Zoe Saldana
Well, I don't know if they're in your circle anymore, but just like, I don't know, I mean, you come from a small place based. Relatively small place. Bay City.
[08:26]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, but I mean there's in everybody's life, you know what I'm saying? The people around me right now, everyone's beautiful. They deserve to be around me.
[08:38]
Zoe Saldana
They also. Yo, yo. Yeah.
[08:40]
That Mexican OT
N. Just me and Jordan.
[08:42]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah.
[08:43]
That Mexican OT
N. But they're loving. I love their effort. I kick it with that. Can't do for me all day, you know? Kick it with broke.
[08:51]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah.
[08:51]
Virgil
It's big of you, dude.
[08:52]
Zoe Saldana
Is. Are all six your grills from Johnny?
[08:56]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, I don't let nobody else touch my teeth.
[08:58]
Zoe Saldana
Really? Is that. Can anybody get grills from Johnny or is there kind of like an application or, like, on a tryout process?
[09:04]
That Mexican OT
Man, you got money, you can go.
[09:05]
Virgil
See if you got money. You can see Johnny.
[09:08]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. You know, Diamond Boy, he bought that money.
[09:13]
Zoe Saldana
Do you think he would ever get, like, that Mexican OT style mullet? He's done the. He's done the brush back.
[09:18]
That Mexican OT
I'm so probably getting some boots. I don't think he'll get the mullet.
[09:21]
Virgil
Okay. Right?
[09:22]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[09:22]
Virgil
Is he, like, when it. When it's all said and done, is he like the actual, like, mayor of Houston? Is he like the guy, like, bigger than any rapper, any athlete? Is Johnny Dang? Like, is he Houston? Is he Texas to you?
[09:33]
That Mexican OT
No, no. But he plays a fat ass part in Hell, yeah.
[09:37]
Virgil
Okay.
[09:37]
That Mexican OT
Like, he's. He's definitely a limb, you know, I'm.
[09:42]
Zoe Saldana
Saying, is he as hilarious in real life as he appears to be online?
[09:45]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Funny. He just funny, though, because, like, it's Johnny, right? He don't be trying to be funny. You just watch him and he funny.
[09:54]
Virgil
He just is.
[09:55]
Zoe Saldana
Wait, we had. We had. We had Maxo Cream on and he was saying that, like, Johnny kind of like, and Paul Wall, and they're kind of saying that, like, Johnny almost has, like, his own language.
[10:03]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, well, I mean, he don't. But yeah, he got. He got the. Their names.
[10:14]
Virgil
I want to learn that. Dude, I need Rosetta Stone for that duolingo.
[10:17]
That Mexican OT
He got. He got some good ones. He got some viral sayings for sure that Johnny and Johnny love being Johnny. Like, he. He like me and Johnny. You know?
[10:28]
Zoe Saldana
Do you hang out with him or is it just, like, strictly business?
[10:33]
That Mexican OT
I. I've. I've kicked it with him a few times, but not like we linked up. You know what I'm saying? Like, we just seen each other out there and we're like, hey, come on, let's go. I'm going here. Let's ride. What.
[10:41]
Virgil
What did he think of your song that's named after him? You know, like.
[10:44]
That Mexican OT
Oh, he love it.
[10:45]
Virgil
Yeah.
[10:45]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. And I'm grateful that he does because, you know, he could have been like, man down.
[10:51]
Virgil
Yeah.
[10:51]
That Mexican OT
You know what I'm saying?
[10:52]
Virgil
Do you know him before the song or was the song kind of like the introduction? Hell yeah.
[10:57]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. So I, I, we ended up meeting Paul and Paul jumped on the song and he was like, man, we gotta get Johnny in it, you know?
[11:03]
Virgil
That's beautiful, man.
[11:05]
Zoe Saldana
If money was no object, what would your dream grill look like?
[11:09]
That Mexican OT
Money is no money is no object, to be clear.
[11:12]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah, so when you have the time. Because right now you're, you know, I'm sure you're like, putting the finishing touch on the album, planning, tour, everything. It's gonna be hot summer when you have the time to design the dream grill. What is that looking like?
[11:27]
That Mexican OT
Probably something with chocolate. Diamonds, my favorite color. I've always wanted something with brown, but they don't really just be having brown diamonds sitting around, so they gotta cure them.
[11:36]
Virgil
The mole molar and I don't feel like waiting.
[11:39]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah, brown diamonds look like poo poo.
[11:44]
Virgil
My man's talking. Literally.
[11:45]
That Mexican OT
Oh, I icy, man. Thank you, y' all. Quick. I'm gonna need to bring y' all to the studio.
[11:52]
Virgil
We're available, bro. We got nothing going on.
[11:53]
Zoe Saldana
I think it's because we caught a secondhand high smoking your vision.
[11:57]
Virgil
That's true.
[11:58]
That Mexican OT
All locked in.
[11:59]
Virgil
And that's what's up extra giggly.
[12:02]
That Mexican OT
How long you been around with the lyrics?
[12:05]
Zoe Saldana
My whole life.
[12:05]
That Mexican OT
Oh, so you rap?
[12:06]
Zoe Saldana
No, no, no, no. Yeah, I mean, in my head I do.
[12:10]
Virgil
In Instagram captions mainly.
[12:12]
That Mexican OT
And I, I mean, I, I can't even do that right.
[12:16]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah.
[12:16]
That Mexican OT
You know what I'm saying? You be it me up when I realized how rare creativity was, you know what I'm saying?
[12:22]
Zoe Saldana
What do you realize? When did you realize that?
[12:24]
That Mexican OT
Recently.
[12:24]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah.
[12:25]
That Mexican OT
Oh, you know what I'm saying? Because my I, I grew up thinking everybody was just born with this, you know what I'm saying? And I was like, damn.
[12:31]
Zoe Saldana
What made you realize that when people.
[12:32]
That Mexican OT
Are like, yo, I started being around these rappers.
[12:35]
Virgil
Oh, oh, they're saying they're weak, is what you're saying. Kind of low key.
[12:39]
That Mexican OT
I mean, not all of them, but they're definitely people out there where I'm like, what the fuck? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but I guess I dig it because some of these people like, or real life gangsters. So many people's are real life thugs, you know what I'm saying? So, like, the rapping is kind of just.
[12:55]
Virgil
It's like a hobby, secondary, you know what I'm saying?
[12:57]
That Mexican OT
And obviously Good at it because they're known. You know what I'm saying? But, like, as a somebody that's a student of the game, you ain't with that.
[13:07]
Zoe Saldana
Who's your favorite Texas rappers of all time?
[13:10]
That Mexican OT
Man, we got a lot. I mean, I love the. I love everyone that's out now. I love Jeremy. I love Maxo Sauce. I love otb, you know what I'm saying? I love Fast Lane. Really on the cool. He hard than the. Oh, and Hendo King Hendrix, he another one. That's my boy. But he. He coming up right now. He got a name, but he got a name in this. In the city, in the streets. You know what I'm saying? He moving it to the rap.
[13:37]
Zoe Saldana
All right, but if you have to pick four for Mount Rushmore all time, go Texas rappers.
[13:43]
That Mexican OT
Damn.
[13:44]
Virgil
Can't include yourself either. We'll just assume that we can or can't.
[13:47]
That Mexican OT
Okay, I wasn't.
[13:49]
Virgil
I mean, one day, it wouldn't be crazy.
[13:51]
Zoe Saldana
One day for.
[13:52]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, yeah.
[13:52]
Zoe Saldana
I'm sure people put you on their mouth. Rush Vortex. Rappers at the point.
[13:55]
That Mexican OT
A thousand percent. Yeah.
[13:56]
Virgil
All right, so top. Top four unranked. We going to put zero Legend.
[14:06]
That Mexican OT
We going to put Doug.
[14:09]
Virgil
Slim Thugger, the biggest boss. Those are two good ones.
[14:14]
That Mexican OT
Talking about rap.
[14:15]
Virgil
Yeah.
[14:16]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah. So no Beyonce, although she raps low key.
[14:20]
That Mexican OT
No.
[14:23]
Virgil
Not.
[14:25]
Zoe Saldana
And if there's a group, you can put them on there as one.
[14:28]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, that was a hint. What do I got? Zero Thug halfway. There you go. Put big X on that. For sure.
[14:37]
Virgil
The plug.
[14:38]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, gotta put big. Extra plug.
[14:40]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah, he is big.
[14:41]
Virgil
He's crushing it.
[14:42]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[14:42]
Virgil
Literally and figuratively.
[14:44]
That Mexican OT
And.
[14:48]
Virgil
A lot of options, man. Scarface or Ghetto Boys.
[14:53]
That Mexican OT
Oh, RIP Pimp C. I'm gonna let y' all choose that one.
[14:58]
Zoe Saldana
Why do you think, like, right now? I mean, we're talking about the new school. You Big X, everyone. Why is Texas right now having such a moment in hip hop?
[15:10]
That Mexican OT
Texas has always had a moment. First of all, I think. No. Yeah. No, not even like that. I'm just saying, like, they just. I always say this. Wayne is considered the greatest of all time. Right? And he was reciting Big Mo lyrics. Drake came from Canada and moved to Houston, Texas, and was talking about sipping drinks which candy paint switching colors in the light. Houston stripper hoes. It's all Texas.
[15:42]
Virgil
It's the culture.
[15:43]
That Mexican OT
Look, look at Drake. I mean, look at future sipping drink. Listen to his beats. That's all. That's all south side. Shit.
[15:50]
Virgil
Does Texas get enough credit or what?
[15:52]
That Mexican OT
We are now, okay? You Know what I'm saying? I mean, don't get it up. Slim, bro. Slim, Paula and Kiki and them would had. And Mike had a bet. Still tipping.
[16:02]
Virgil
Yeah.
[16:03]
That Mexican OT
You know what I'm saying? So we. They even had that moment where they were shining. But I feel like it was taken.
[16:09]
Virgil
Away so quick by like Atlanta probably, like maybe.
[16:13]
That Mexican OT
Maybe who. Who was next after that? Who was around?
[16:15]
Zoe Saldana
It's kind of like the like dem. Franchise boys and like, like snap, snap.
[16:21]
Virgil
D4L.
[16:22]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, man, LA has always been hot too, though.
[16:27]
Zoe Saldana
True.
[16:28]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, that's probably what it was.
[16:29]
Zoe Saldana
The Houston New Orleans connection is pretty strong.
[16:31]
That Mexican OT
Oh, yeah, that ain't. That's our neighbor.
[16:33]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah.
[16:34]
That Mexican OT
And the Bible tell you love thy neighbor.
[16:36]
Zoe Saldana
Well, you just have Wayne on a song.
[16:38]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Yeah.
[16:39]
Zoe Saldana
How did that, how did that connection come about?
[16:42]
That Mexican OT
My boy fell.
[16:43]
Virgil
Okay.
[16:43]
Zoe Saldana
What went through your head when you're like, oh my God, the goat is about to give me a feature.
[16:48]
That Mexican OT
I was like, hurry up and send it back.
[16:51]
Virgil
It was done over like email versus you in the studio with Wheezy.
[16:54]
That Mexican OT
I just recorded it and wrote and sent it to him. Because I told Fee when I was writing it, I was like, I don't hear nobody else on it.
[16:59]
Virgil
Right.
[17:00]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[17:00]
Zoe Saldana
How would you. He played the guitar on that.
[17:02]
That Mexican OT
At the end, he threw the, the electric guitar.
[17:06]
Zoe Saldana
How would you rate his guitar skills?
[17:08]
That Mexican OT
Better than mine.
[17:10]
Virgil
Do you play any instruments?
[17:11]
That Mexican OT
No.
[17:11]
Zoe Saldana
Nah.
[17:12]
That Mexican OT
I mean, I could make sound good. You know what I'm saying?
[17:14]
Virgil
Because you're creative. You're just born with it.
[17:16]
That Mexican OT
But, but no. My nanny installed it in me. Shout out to my grandma. Yeah.
[17:21]
Zoe Saldana
She gave me the musical.
[17:23]
That Mexican OT
Not musical, just creativity.
[17:25]
Zoe Saldana
Okay.
[17:26]
That Mexican OT
Just creativity, period. Like, I remember even in elementary having school projects, I always had the best one. For real.
[17:32]
Virgil
Like dioramas and.
[17:33]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, because she loved being present in my life so much and just her having creativity already, it just rubbed off.
[17:41]
Zoe Saldana
In that new single with Baby Mad at Me with Wayne.
[17:45]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[17:45]
Zoe Saldana
Is the story of your girl demanding that you whip out your dick so she can smell it. Was that inspired by true events?
[17:52]
That Mexican OT
Hey, if you got a smelling your dick, man, you got a problem.
[17:56]
Virgil
You got a lot of problems.
[17:57]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, I, I, man, some movie. I just had to double check, you know what I'm saying? I just, I'm speaking for the dudes, you know what I'm saying? Cause like, man, you're a dog.
[18:13]
Zoe Saldana
For those listening at Home Depot. Lawrence.
[18:15]
That Mexican OT
No, both.
[18:16]
Zoe Saldana
Oh, I'm a dog too.
[18:17]
That Mexican OT
You too. Like, don't get it up. You know what I'm saying? So you Got what you got. But, man.
[18:23]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah. I never had my dick sniffed.
[18:25]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[18:26]
Zoe Saldana
For like, you know, under suspicion.
[18:28]
Virgil
Right.
[18:29]
Zoe Saldana
You know, we're not kink shaming.
[18:30]
Virgil
Nah.
[18:31]
Zoe Saldana
But I've never put myself in a situation where I had to whip it out and all five senses were employed.
[18:36]
Virgil
PP surveillance. We're not there yet.
[18:39]
Zoe Saldana
Do you listen to your music when you.
[18:41]
That Mexican OT
Sometimes. Really?
[18:42]
Virgil
How's that go normally?
[18:44]
That Mexican OT
Good.
[18:44]
Virgil
You into it?
[18:45]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[18:46]
Virgil
It's not weird at all.
[18:48]
That Mexican OT
Listening to music? No.
[18:49]
Virgil
Your own music? Oh, no, no. You don't do that. To be clear.
[18:53]
That Mexican OT
No, I don't think so.
[18:53]
Virgil
It's never. Come on shuffle while you're fucking stroking out. Pause.
[18:57]
That Mexican OT
Because I'm not even jamming my own shit, so it's nowhere near my shuffle.
[19:00]
Zoe Saldana
You don't play your own music ever.
[19:01]
That Mexican OT
What's his job? I don't jam it. Really?
[19:03]
Zoe Saldana
What do you like to listen to?
[19:05]
That Mexican OT
I'll be jamming that rock. I jam a lot of rock.
[19:08]
Zoe Saldana
Like. Like who? Like Linkin park.
[19:10]
That Mexican OT
Yes.
[19:11]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah.
[19:11]
That Mexican OT
1,000%.
[19:12]
Virgil
Yeah.
[19:13]
Zoe Saldana
Smashing Pumpkins?
[19:14]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. No.
[19:15]
Zoe Saldana
Who else?
[19:16]
Virgil
Hooby Snake.
[19:17]
That Mexican OT
I. I love. I like. I like. I like jazz and country, too. So that rock, I like it when it mixed with jazz, too. I love Stevie. I jam a lot of Stevie. And he's also just a Texas boy. I love Pantera. Also.
[19:30]
Zoe Saldana
Some Texas cowboys from hell.
[19:31]
Virgil
Let's go, dude.
[19:32]
That Mexican OT
Turn up, Walk all that rp.
[19:34]
Zoe Saldana
Dimebag Darrell.
[19:35]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, yeah. There you go. Damn. One of the craziest ever, dude.
[19:38]
Virgil
One of the greatest.
[19:38]
Zoe Saldana
One of the craziest.
[19:39]
That Mexican OT
You with Jimmy?
[19:41]
Zoe Saldana
Jimi Hendrix.
[19:41]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[19:42]
Zoe Saldana
Yes.
[19:42]
Virgil
I think everyone does.
[19:43]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. No, but I. With Voodoo Child, I like acid and mushrooms and. And I always heard the stories of him having the strip of acid on his forehead, you know, Said his guitar would feel like a snake in his hands.
[19:56]
Zoe Saldana
Or Carl Santana did the same thing. He would soak his bandana in acid and then wrap it on his head and just absorb it all. Yeah.
[20:02]
Virgil
See, it's Carl Santana.
[20:04]
That Mexican OT
Mexican. Yeah.
[20:05]
Zoe Saldana
One of the ghosts. He's not. I thought he was.
[20:08]
Virgil
I'm asking.
[20:08]
That Mexican OT
I don't think so.
[20:09]
Zoe Saldana
Fellow countryman Chris, look it up. I'm chat. GPT.
[20:12]
Virgil
Wait. With the country, like so with new country, because country, we talked about Texas having this moment in rap, but country feels like it's going to worldwide, nationwide right now.
[20:20]
That Mexican OT
So the way the early 2000s. The way rapping rock he is.
[20:24]
Virgil
Yes.
[20:24]
That Mexican OT
That's sick. I know that the way rapping rock was getting together like Jay Z and Lincoln Park.
[20:29]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah.
[20:31]
That Mexican OT
Even. Even, like Rage against the Machine. He was rapping, you know what I'm saying?
[20:35]
Virgil
Oh, another Mexican look.
[20:37]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. No, I think it was Puerto Rican.
[20:39]
Virgil
No, Zach doesn't.
[20:40]
That Mexican OT
Zach. I think he's.
[20:41]
Zoe Saldana
I think he's. I think he's half back or half.
[20:43]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, either way. Either way. Spiritually. Either way. He's brown. That's sick.
[20:47]
Virgil
Yeah.
[20:48]
That Mexican OT
You know what I'm saying? Limp Bizkit, like, they were all rapping, too. You know what I'm saying?
[20:53]
Zoe Saldana
Corn for.
[20:54]
That Mexican OT
Oh, I love, bro. This, bro. The grills with the dreads, the microphone that he used to have, like, the. The skirts they had, like, the boys was hard, bro.
[21:04]
Zoe Saldana
I bet you could link up with Fred Durst easily. He's. He's touring right now.
[21:09]
That Mexican OT
Nice.
[21:09]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah, just. I love some of the guys take.
[21:11]
Virgil
Home, you know, just think about. Wait, so with this country moment, who do you like in country right now? Morgan Wallen. You're a big fan.
[21:17]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, he's. He's cool. Yeah, he's. No, Morgan Wallace is definitely cool as he got great music, but I'm jamming, like, that's pop country. I'm jamming country. I like Braxton.
[21:29]
Virgil
Sure.
[21:30]
That Mexican OT
You know what I'm saying? I love Gavin, but I like Gavin because he'd be talking about what I'd be living.
[21:35]
Virgil
Okay. You know, real country boy shit.
[21:37]
That Mexican OT
Well, I mean, yeah, that too. But, like, he. You just gotta listen to him.
[21:42]
Virgil
Okay?
[21:42]
That Mexican OT
You're gonna see what I'm saying.
[21:44]
Zoe Saldana
What's. What's the most Texas thing about you? You don't know? What's the most country? The grill.
[21:53]
Virgil
Okay. The grill.
[21:54]
That Mexican OT
I got diamonds on my pipe to this thing.
[21:56]
Virgil
The ATVs. The mudden that feels the. No, and the mudding mullet, too. Okay.
[22:02]
Zoe Saldana
What's. What. What's, like, the most Mexican about you?
[22:06]
That Mexican OT
I don't speak Spanish.
[22:07]
Zoe Saldana
Really?
[22:08]
That Mexican OT
A lot of Mexicans, they was telling me. They were telling me to take Mexican out my name because I don't speak Spanish. And then now all this stuff going on, they telling me, take Mexican out my name because I ain't saying nothing.
[22:20]
Zoe Saldana
Really. Do you feel. Well, how does it make you feel? I mean, you're obviously of Mexican descent.
[22:25]
That Mexican OT
I mean.
[22:26]
Virgil
Yeah.
[22:26]
That Mexican OT
What the. You can't take that away from me. It's in my DNA, jackass. You know, like, you can't. You can't tell me I'm not Mexican, you know what I'm saying? Just because I don't speak Spanish or whatever the fuck it is they be saying. They be saying, text, Mexican is not Mexican enough.
[22:40]
Virgil
Really?
[22:40]
Zoe Saldana
You do, you claim. You claim. More like Tex Mexican.
[22:43]
That Mexican OT
Yes, I am a tehano. I was born in Bay City, Texas.
[22:46]
Virgil
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[23:02]
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[23:52]
Zoe Saldana
What? I mean, you mentioned kind of being broke before and you're still giving things away. What's the. As an adult, what's the brokest you've ever been like, what did that situation look like?
[24:00]
That Mexican OT
Dead bro. Yeah, Dead bro.
[24:02]
Zoe Saldana
Like ice cube sandwiches.
[24:04]
That Mexican OT
Nothing. Not being hungry.
[24:06]
Virgil
Hungry. Starving.
[24:06]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Being hungry.
[24:08]
Virgil
How much did that motivate you to like your current career path of being like a fucking popping rapper?
[24:14]
That Mexican OT
It didn't motivate me, but it made me grateful and humble because I'm okay with being broke. I don't give a fuck if you like my music or nobody like my music. I'm doing this shit because Sophie want me to do it. You know what I'm saying? Right? Man, my mama gave me my first rap name. You know, she wanted me to be a rapper.
[24:31]
Zoe Saldana
What was the first rap name?
[24:32]
That Mexican OT
V man.
[24:33]
Zoe Saldana
V Man.
[24:34]
Virgil
I like that.
[24:35]
That Mexican OT
V Man.
[24:36]
Virgil
Like the magazine?
[24:38]
That Mexican OT
I don't know.
[24:39]
Zoe Saldana
It's a fashion. There's a fashion magazine called V man.
[24:41]
Virgil
Yeah, yeah.
[24:42]
Zoe Saldana
We'll put you in touch with them.
[24:44]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[24:44]
Virgil
Honestly, perfect link up.
[24:45]
Zoe Saldana
I Mean, you grew up doing blue collar farm work, right?
[24:49]
That Mexican OT
Like, that was not too much. I was, I was, I was, I was being a country boy.
[24:53]
Virgil
Okay?
[24:54]
That Mexican OT
There's a difference between a cowboy and a country boy.
[24:56]
Zoe Saldana
What's the difference?
[24:57]
Virgil
Yeah, please.
[24:58]
That Mexican OT
Cowboying is like work, you know what I'm saying? I've definitely done some cowboy work with my bop, you know what I'm saying? Like, I fucking, you know, I built fences with my grandpa, cut some grass with being out there with my pimple chico bulls getting out, my cousin Michael and Adrian helping them, getting shit. This was a long time ago when I was a kid, you know, I moved to Austin and I was a. I was with my stepmom for a while too, you know. But when I was out there, I wasn't really doing too much cowboying work or, or doing any cowboy, you know.
[25:28]
Zoe Saldana
That's when you were a country boy.
[25:29]
That Mexican OT
I'm a country boy.
[25:30]
Zoe Saldana
What's a country boy?
[25:31]
Virgil
A lazy cowboy.
[25:32]
That Mexican OT
I'm. I'm blowing up. I'm getting tannerized and blowing pigs up, shooting down, you know what I'm saying? I'm. I'm doing all that shit. I'm getting. I'm getting a car tired to inner tube and dragging us on the land. We're racing tractors, drifting, zero turns.
[25:49]
Virgil
That sounds fun. Yeah, but there's no work involved.
[25:52]
That Mexican OT
No, I don't want to worry, you know what I'm saying? Like, I. Hell, nah. I ain't getting no job. I ain't. I ain't doing none of that. Not having a boss. I don't want to fucking listen to you.
[26:04]
Zoe Saldana
If you weren't a rapper.
[26:05]
That Mexican OT
If you weren't a rapper, I'd be doing nothing.
[26:06]
Zoe Saldana
You could do nothing.
[26:08]
That Mexican OT
I'd be doing. I mean, I'd be. I'd be rapping broke.
[26:11]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah.
[26:12]
Virgil
Yeah.
[26:12]
Zoe Saldana
Well, you started freestyling in front of like your dad and his friends when they were just like drinking in the yard. Could any of them hang with you or did you just body them immediately?
[26:20]
That Mexican OT
My dad, Nah, my daddy never had homeboys like that over. He always had a house full of women, okay? And the only dudes that are there is because he met him at the club and he's like, oh, you rap, man. Come on, watch this. He wake me up before school, so I ain't no bullshit. As Kathy. Kathy used to be your.
[26:38]
Zoe Saldana
Your sister in law.
[26:39]
Virgil
My sister in law, yeah. I'm related to that Mexican ot. If you guys straight up, hey, as.
[26:44]
That Mexican OT
Kathy, I will see red light.
[26:46]
Virgil
He would drag you out of bed to spit.
[26:48]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. And he made me rap out a grown ass, man.
[26:50]
Zoe Saldana
And. And you would take him down like 5 in the morning.
[26:52]
That Mexican OT
I'd eat him alive. I'd eat him a lot.
[26:55]
Zoe Saldana
Was he like, just. Was that just the father's father's pride or was he trying to, like, get you signed or something, man.
[27:00]
That Mexican OT
And I was just gonna say this. He never did that with the intentions of like, oh, you're gonna be better one day, son. That was pure selfishness.
[27:08]
Virgil
He's flexing. You being his son.
[27:10]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Like, period. Like, it was strictly his entertainment.
[27:13]
Zoe Saldana
And you just embarrass these grown men, wiping the cold out your eye.
[27:17]
That Mexican OT
I would demolish it.
[27:18]
Zoe Saldana
Really?
[27:18]
That Mexican OT
You gotta understand, I've been right. I wrote my first song when I was eight. Like, the way Mayweather. As soon as he was. As soon as he was walking, he was in the gym. Yeah. Soon as I was talking, I was in the studio.
[27:28]
Virgil
Your child prodigy.
[27:29]
That Mexican OT
See what I'm saying? My uncles was doing it. My mama wanted me to do it. All my mama's homeboys that would come over were doing it. I'm watching it on the tv. My video games I'm playing, they're doing it like, you know, so I was just surrounded by it so much.
[27:43]
Zoe Saldana
And you. And you did it. You're doing it.
[27:45]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, right?
[27:46]
Zoe Saldana
New album, touring soon. What was like when you got your first big check for music? What was the first thing you bought with that?
[27:52]
That Mexican OT
I want to go buy a truck. Bought an Escalade, man. Yeah.
[27:55]
Virgil
Country boy.
[27:58]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[27:59]
Zoe Saldana
Country boy getting slick.
[28:00]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Now I love my diesels, man. I wanna. I want a new Ford. I want a 350dually.
[28:05]
Zoe Saldana
That is a big truck.
[28:08]
Virgil
Again, to do no work and just to hang out.
[28:10]
That Mexican OT
No, to go pull in mud. Pull my four wheelers and. You know what I'm saying?
[28:14]
Zoe Saldana
Are you into, like, Slabs and Swangers or you just want the country?
[28:18]
That Mexican OT
No, I got. I got two slabs. Got two slabs.
[28:22]
Zoe Saldana
Can you pig lolos?
[28:23]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, I'll show you a picture right now.
[28:24]
Zoe Saldana
Oh, please.
[28:25]
Virgil
Yeah, we'd love. We'd love to see. He's got him in his phone. Like, you know, people would have, like, pictures of the children. He's pulling out the slabs. I'm surprised you don't have pictures in your wallet of your slabs, dude.
[28:34]
Zoe Saldana
Papa.
[28:35]
Virgil
Yeah, Here we go. Oh, spicy. Shout out, Matt. He's got a real tree.
[28:41]
Zoe Saldana
Can we describe what. Can we describe what we're looking at?
[28:44]
That Mexican OT
Country boy in the city.
[28:45]
Zoe Saldana
Okay. When you pop trunk, there's a taxidermied boar's head.
[28:50]
Virgil
Did you.
[28:51]
Zoe Saldana
Did you smack that down with bow.
[28:53]
Virgil
And arrow with gold tusks?
[28:55]
That Mexican OT
N. It's not gold. That's just.
[28:57]
Zoe Saldana
He just was born with gold tusk.
[28:59]
That Mexican OT
African warhog. Brought it back to usa. Got a tax there.
[29:02]
Zoe Saldana
Wait, where'd you get him?
[29:04]
That Mexican OT
Madagascar.
[29:05]
Zoe Saldana
Wow.
[29:05]
Virgil
From Madagascar to Madagorda, that's country boy in the city.
[29:10]
Zoe Saldana
Neon lights in the trunk when you pop it.
[29:12]
Virgil
Wrapped in real tree.
[29:13]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah, real tree wrapped.
[29:15]
That Mexican OT
I got the Xbox, the back seat, two 13 inch screens. That's my slam bag right there. Woo.
[29:21]
Zoe Saldana
Exhibit Swangers. That's the dts. The red DTS exhibit. Exhibit. Hates to see this guy coming.
[29:28]
That Mexican OT
This a new savory I got coming.
[29:30]
Zoe Saldana
Okay. And the mustard.
[29:31]
Virgil
The Buick.
[29:31]
Zoe Saldana
The candy mustard. The candy.
[29:33]
Virgil
The honey mustard.
[29:34]
That Mexican OT
Champion gold. That's Bay City Gold right there.
[29:36]
Zoe Saldana
That's Bay City Gold.
[29:37]
Virgil
Shout out the black cats.
[29:39]
Zoe Saldana
Okay.
[29:40]
Virgil
Wait, did you play. You play football in high school?
[29:42]
That Mexican OT
Nah, I was always in trouble. Yeah, look, that's the Xbox in the backseat.
[29:46]
Zoe Saldana
What. What games you like to play?
[29:48]
That Mexican OT
God. This is what we doing.
[29:51]
Zoe Saldana
Oh my God. You have.
[29:52]
Virgil
What the.
[29:53]
Zoe Saldana
Oh, oh.
[29:54]
Virgil
Some jackass. She's showing us jackass style.
[29:57]
Zoe Saldana
Something up. They jumped over a lake. They smacked the door off a broken.
[30:02]
That Mexican OT
Bro.
[30:02]
Zoe Saldana
They're just demolishing a car. They're doing a guy on a. On an inner tube just getting dragged around the field.
[30:08]
That Mexican OT
Being a cowboy is definitely cool. I looked up to that because that's what my. So to me, my bop was a cowbo. My pepper chico, you know, like, man, ask Kathy. I will, you know. So I think that cool. You know what I'm saying?
[30:21]
Virgil
But you just want to do crazy with your friends.
[30:24]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Like man, while. While they were working, we would be getting me and Matthew and my cousin Mike would be getting cash and throw it in the air. My cousin Michael would whip it with a whip. With a whip. Rain cash.
[30:37]
Zoe Saldana
It really is. You guys really were doing jackass. Yeah, buro shit we got. What do you think of like as.
[30:43]
That Mexican OT
A former cowboy back then?
[30:45]
Zoe Saldana
Oh, wow. Slim again.
[30:47]
Virgil
A brolic guy.
[30:48]
Zoe Saldana
That Slim Mexican ot.
[30:50]
Virgil
Yeah, the Mexican Slim Thug, dude.
[30:53]
Zoe Saldana
Yo, how many pairs of cowboy boots you have?
[30:56]
That Mexican OT
I don't know.
[30:57]
Zoe Saldana
Do you have a favorite pair?
[31:00]
That Mexican OT
Paraku, anything? Paraku.
[31:02]
Zoe Saldana
Paraku. That's the brand.
[31:03]
That Mexican OT
Nah, it's the fish.
[31:05]
Virgil
Oh yeah, the. The exotic. The material.
[31:08]
That Mexican OT
Yep.
[31:09]
Virgil
You do like ostrich? Gator.
[31:11]
That Mexican OT
I like gator. I like. I like the side now. I really like python. I like the gator. I like the side in the Back. I like ostrich. I like the leg of the ostrich. I like stingray.
[31:24]
Virgil
I got sea turtle. That's my best pair. Sea turtle used to be illegal, so they would.
[31:28]
That Mexican OT
It is illegal.
[31:28]
Virgil
Yeah. They smuggled from Mexico.
[31:30]
Zoe Saldana
Used to be legal.
[31:30]
That Mexican OT
You got some sea turtle?
[31:31]
Virgil
Yeah, from my wife.
[31:34]
That Mexican OT
Talk about that. Yeah.
[31:36]
Zoe Saldana
Limitations.
[31:36]
Virgil
They're both. The boots are old, bro. They're from like the 80s. But yeah, I got the seats. I should have worn them for you today, but it's too hot. You like that? You're impressed? I do sea turtle. I don't around.
[31:45]
That Mexican OT
No. That's sick. As I was just gonna bring up sea turtle, but that's parching.
[31:50]
Virgil
Oh yeah. I mean it's probably still legal. It's 1,000% straight from Mexico. I got that work from over the border, bro.
[31:57]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, it sound right. Yeah, the boot game go crazy.
[32:01]
Zoe Saldana
Do you spend a lot on boots or is it just you get like the, the general release ones?
[32:05]
That Mexican OT
Huh?
[32:05]
Zoe Saldana
Do you spend a lot on boots? Like customs and exotics?
[32:08]
That Mexican OT
Nah, my boy, I ain't gonna lie. My boy Gomez, he normally be having some good that I like. Like, he normally just be having some good. So I don't ever have to ask for no customer.
[32:17]
Virgil
It comes to you. A lot of things we learned come to you.
[32:19]
That Mexican OT
There you go.
[32:20]
Virgil
Boots included.
[32:21]
That Mexican OT
There you go.
[32:22]
Zoe Saldana
I mean, you got the boots on while you're doing the cowboy work or while you're just doing the country boy around.
[32:27]
That Mexican OT
I'll be barefoot.
[32:28]
Zoe Saldana
You be barefoot?
[32:29]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[32:29]
Zoe Saldana
Do you have like tough feet?
[32:30]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[32:31]
Zoe Saldana
But you also. Do you still own those nail salons?
[32:34]
That Mexican OT
No, I want to open some nails.
[32:36]
Zoe Saldana
You want to?
[32:37]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[32:37]
Zoe Saldana
Are you a big mani. Petty guy?
[32:38]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, I get my nails done a lot.
[32:40]
Zoe Saldana
I was gonna say I didn't want.
[32:41]
That Mexican OT
To, but really, man, if that's one thing women gonna spend money on his nail salons, I mean, it's themselves.
[32:47]
Zoe Saldana
It's a recession proof business.
[32:49]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, it's deeper. It's deeper than the, the, the nails. Like they gonna spend money on themselves.
[32:55]
Virgil
The shit's got to be pretty regardless of the economy. So for you it's a, it's a, it's a good business venture. It' meet chicks or whatever.
[33:01]
That Mexican OT
No, I mean, I do just love women, you know what I'm saying?
[33:03]
Virgil
But hell yeah, brother, man, like I.
[33:05]
That Mexican OT
Say, they just going, they going to spend money on themselves. Okay. And they going, I know when I go get my nails done, I'm dropping like 350 minimum.
[33:12]
Zoe Saldana
Damn.
[33:13]
That Mexican OT
You know what I'm saying?
[33:14]
Virgil
Before or after tip before.
[33:17]
That Mexican OT
Damn. Yeah, I'm getting to smell good. The massage put the wax on me. You know what I'm saying? Talk to me, maybe, you know, massage.
[33:25]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah, right here.
[33:26]
That Mexican OT
No, no massage. I like the. I like the. The heavy sack. And it smell. It's like.
[33:31]
Zoe Saldana
What's in it.
[33:33]
That Mexican OT
It's like beads, but they warm it up. It's like a neck pillow, and you can just lean on it. When it smell good and it's warm, it's got a scent.
[33:39]
Zoe Saldana
And Is that what that Mexican OT does to relax?
[33:43]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, I just smoke and shut the up.
[33:48]
Virgil
You know, when you get high, you're on a big talker.
[33:50]
That Mexican OT
No, what about. I'm actually. I'm the type of person where, like, I could. I could smoke this joint right now and not say one word to you and enjoy your presence.
[33:59]
Virgil
Not the best thing to do before a podcast, but I get what you're saying.
[34:02]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, but like, even, like. Even like my grandpa, you know what I'm saying? I'll be with my grandpa sometimes. And we just smoke. We don't need to talk. We just sit there and just look at the trees, enjoy each other's presence.
[34:13]
Virgil
That's beautiful.
[34:14]
That Mexican OT
Because your spirit. Your spirit not gonna be here too long. Yeah, I need to be with that.
[34:18]
Zoe Saldana
You're a lot more Zen, I think, than I would have expected. Like, is that. Have you always been that way? Peaceful, calm?
[34:25]
That Mexican OT
Oh, no, I'm peaceful. Like, and you got to. You had to fully reach a full, maximum capacity of danger to be peaceful.
[34:32]
Zoe Saldana
Okay, that's true.
[34:33]
That Mexican OT
If, you know, if you ain't reached that, you ain't peaceful, motherfucker. You just harmless. You know what I'm saying?
[34:38]
Virgil
There is a difference.
[34:39]
Zoe Saldana
But there was a point in your life where you were at peak danger.
[34:42]
That Mexican OT
Oh. Oh, man, you were.
[34:43]
Zoe Saldana
You were dangerous.
[34:44]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, I've been mean before. Like, you know, I've been dangerous to myself. Not only just people around me, me.
[34:49]
Zoe Saldana
You know, Is that like. Like drinking soda, like, being out of pocket with your personal health?
[34:56]
That Mexican OT
I mean. Yeah. That they play. Yeah, some ways.
[35:01]
Zoe Saldana
Maybe the soda is a metaphor.
[35:02]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, 1000.
[35:03]
Zoe Saldana
But now you are. Now you are. I mean, maybe it's the mushrooms, right? The mushrooms and acid are kind of like.
[35:08]
That Mexican OT
No, the mushrooms and acid made me wild.
[35:10]
Virgil
Oh, really?
[35:11]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[35:11]
Virgil
You turn up off the psychedelics.
[35:13]
Zoe Saldana
What brought you down?
[35:16]
That Mexican OT
The time.
[35:19]
Virgil
Just time on earth.
[35:20]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, I tripped for a week. Didn't even realize a week passed, man. I got LSD tattoo right here.
[35:25]
Virgil
Oh, yeah.
[35:26]
That Mexican OT
Mushrooms on the. With the tab of acid. On his tongue.
[35:29]
Zoe Saldana
You're tripping for a week.
[35:30]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[35:31]
Zoe Saldana
Well, like, were you. You seeing visuals?
[35:34]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[35:35]
Zoe Saldana
What was the hard. What was like the peak of the trip of that week? Long trip.
[35:39]
That Mexican OT
I remember I would. I couldn't see, I couldn't hear. I was seeing sound travel.
[35:43]
Zoe Saldana
Oh. As a musician, I feel like that's kind of like baked into your DNA, right?
[35:46]
That Mexican OT
I don't know. I never thought of it that way, but I was scared. Like, I couldn't hear nothing. I was only hearing the bass. Like, I wasn't hearing it, I was feeling it. And then I would see it. If you ever. You know what the PS2 is or the PS3?
[35:59]
Virgil
The PlayStation.
[35:59]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Yeah. All right. So you know the loading screen? That's what the sound looked like.
[36:04]
Virgil
Damn your life a loading screen, bro.
[36:06]
Zoe Saldana
Hit R2. R2. R2.
[36:08]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. No, that was wild.
[36:10]
Virgil
Had to unplug you and reset you, dog.
[36:12]
That Mexican OT
No. Hell no. I don't remember what happened after that.
[36:14]
Virgil
Were you in the studio during this time? Were you making music?
[36:16]
That Mexican OT
We was in the country. We was. We was in the land because like, we. We tripped. They can go look at the trees.
[36:22]
Virgil
Did you have an epiphany during this time? Like something that still stays with you?
[36:25]
That Mexican OT
Nothing.
[36:26]
Virgil
No, Just all bad.
[36:27]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[36:28]
Virgil
Scary.
[36:28]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Like I'm. I'm scarred. Like I was like. I around kill you out of fear.
[36:33]
Virgil
Wow.
[36:34]
Zoe Saldana
But most every other time you are pretty chill when you take mushrooms or acid.
[36:38]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, I don't do that no more. That's why I got a tattooed. I ain't do it because I like it. I do it to remember. That's just not a game.
[36:43]
Zoe Saldana
Was that the last time you tripped on acid? Was that week? Long trip.
[36:46]
That Mexican OT
No.
[36:46]
Zoe Saldana
Okay.
[36:47]
That Mexican OT
Definitely. What was the first time?
[36:50]
Zoe Saldana
First. First time you did acid?
[36:55]
That Mexican OT
I had a homegirl put me on. Yeah. And we just.
[36:58]
Zoe Saldana
Always a woman.
[36:59]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, right.
[37:01]
Virgil
Slithered me out just like Adam and Eve.
[37:03]
Zoe Saldana
Do you like it immediately or you like.
[37:05]
That Mexican OT
No, I know I liked it. Okay. Yeah. I just like being high.
[37:09]
Virgil
Yeah, a lot of people do.
[37:11]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[37:12]
Zoe Saldana
You're saying outside that Texas wheat is not great.
[37:16]
That Mexican OT
I think. I think California, specifically the Bay Area, got the best weed on the whole planet.
[37:21]
Zoe Saldana
Organic erewhon shit.
[37:22]
That Mexican OT
It just smell good. It tastes good, it look good, it roll good, it buzz down good. Like overall, it's just a champion.
[37:29]
Virgil
What do you think of the New York weed so far?
[37:31]
That Mexican OT
I don't even smoke it.
[37:32]
Virgil
Oh, really? No, you're strictly on that. The hydroponics from California.
[37:37]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. No, the. The. Yeah. Hybrids I can't really be doing sativa indica. Nothing like that.
[37:43]
Virgil
Gotcha.
[37:44]
Zoe Saldana
All right. Do you get the munchies when you smoke?
[37:46]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. 1,000.
[37:47]
Zoe Saldana
What's your favorite munchy food.
[37:52]
Virgil
So many good options to choose from.
[37:54]
That Mexican OT
I know.
[37:54]
Zoe Saldana
Hot Cheetos. Yeah, like junk food or like real food.
[37:57]
That Mexican OT
Powder donuts. I like. I like fruit.
[37:59]
Virgil
Oh, that's a healthy alternative. Donuts.
[38:02]
Zoe Saldana
What's that? Mexicano tea's favorite powder.
[38:03]
That Mexican OT
Donuts. And chocolate and milk. Or. Or some fruit. I'll eat a bowl of fruit.
[38:08]
Zoe Saldana
What do you with though specifically fruit wise?
[38:10]
That Mexican OT
Watermelon, Kiwi, Strawberries.
[38:13]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah.
[38:13]
Virgil
Very good for you.
[38:14]
That Mexican OT
This is good. Any berry? Yeah.
[38:17]
Zoe Saldana
Halle Berry.
[38:18]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[38:19]
Virgil
1,000% sweeter the juice.
[38:21]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Right.
[38:22]
Zoe Saldana
What's the number one? Let's not gatekeep. All right. What's the number one Tex Mex spot in Bay City?
[38:31]
Virgil
I know. I got my answer.
[38:34]
Zoe Saldana
You guys don't know. Lawrence knows Bay City.
[38:36]
Virgil
Yeah.
[38:38]
Zoe Saldana
What's yours? Lawrence?
[38:39]
Virgil
La.
[38:40]
That Mexican OT
I was gonna say la.
[38:41]
Virgil
Oh, you copier.
[38:42]
That Mexican OT
Papacito got some good.
[38:43]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah.
[38:44]
That Mexican OT
Though I like Papa. I mean I. I just think Tex mix period the best, right? Yeah.
[38:49]
Zoe Saldana
What's your go to order?
[38:50]
That Mexican OT
Chimichanga.
[38:51]
Virgil
Oh hell yeah, brother.
[38:53]
That Mexican OT
Smack that down with some fajita meat in there.
[38:55]
Virgil
Let's go.
[38:56]
That Mexican OT
Rice and beans.
[38:57]
Virgil
Yes.
[38:58]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Yeah.
[38:59]
Zoe Saldana
Big red.
[39:00]
Virgil
Can you cook? Nah, nah. Not at all.
[39:02]
That Mexican OT
Nah.
[39:03]
Zoe Saldana
Yo, can I ask another food related question? Was mad long ago you went viral for saying you carry on an onion in your pocket, Right? Can you clarify for us by onion, did you mean like an ounce of something or like an actual onion on some like Mexican witchcraft shit?
[39:19]
That Mexican OT
Nah, hell no. Witchcraft. I like cocaine.
[39:23]
Virgil
We actually thought it was going to be the. It's like to keep bad spirits away.
[39:28]
That Mexican OT
I know.
[39:29]
Zoe Saldana
I thought it was going to be.
[39:30]
Virgil
What versus encouraging the bad spirits?
[39:36]
Zoe Saldana
That was a while ago, right?
[39:38]
That Mexican OT
What?
[39:38]
Zoe Saldana
That. When you said that. That was a while ago.
[39:40]
That Mexican OT
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[39:41]
Zoe Saldana
So keep still. Keep the onion on you.
[39:43]
That Mexican OT
One thousand.
[39:43]
Virgil
Keep that powdered donut on me, bro.
[39:45]
That Mexican OT
One thousand. The powdered donuts.
[39:49]
Zoe Saldana
We speak of Bay City. So the three of us, we're not besties. Us. Chris, Fatima, everybody, Right? Let's say we're spending the day with you and the crew in Bay City. What are we getting up to? Walk us through the day from when we wake up to when we go to bed.
[40:04]
That Mexican OT
Wake up? Yeah. Yeah.
[40:08]
Zoe Saldana
What time is.
[40:13]
That Mexican OT
Just depends. Maybe two. Okay, 2:00pm yeah.
[40:16]
Virgil
Okay.
[40:17]
That Mexican OT
Two or three. So we slept in sometimes even five. Well, sometimes I get up at 10.
[40:21]
Virgil
Damn, you're on the vampire.
[40:23]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. I come out at night time. I'm very nocturnal. I don't like being with nobody's outside at night, so I just go when nobody's out.
[40:30]
Virgil
Right.
[40:30]
That Mexican OT
Right.
[40:31]
Zoe Saldana
All right. So it's 2pm we wake up smoke.
[40:36]
That Mexican OT
I'm definitely gonna shower. I gotta wake up and shower, brush my teeth and all this. Okay. Get your ass ready.
[40:42]
Virgil
Sure.
[40:42]
That Mexican OT
Probably jump in the truck, maybe go eat somewhere. Maybe go ride the four wheelers. Hopefully. It's like an overcast day so the mud's mudding. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely.
[40:53]
Zoe Saldana
You ever gotten stuck?
[40:55]
That Mexican OT
Hell, yeah.
[40:56]
Zoe Saldana
That's why. That's why you need the 350, right?
[40:58]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Oh, no. In my truck. No. You get stuck in that truck, boy, you shouldn't even be driving.
[41:03]
Virgil
That's a fact.
[41:03]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. For real. You don't know what to do with it.
[41:06]
Zoe Saldana
We might get stuck.
[41:07]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Huh.
[41:08]
Zoe Saldana
We're city boys, you know, we're out here learning how to be country boys with you.
[41:11]
That Mexican OT
Now you gotta get right. All right, so we're out here in the beach.
[41:15]
Zoe Saldana
We're out on the four by fours.
[41:16]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[41:17]
Virgil
So we're mudding a little bit. We're high. We're mudding 1,000%.
[41:20]
That Mexican OT
Probably roll another one by this time and smoke that. Go to. Go to Diamond S. We can either go to Domino's. China Chef or a China Chef dog.
[41:33]
Virgil
I usually get delivered, but it is.
[41:34]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. I get the. The sweet and sour chicken.
[41:37]
Virgil
Hell yeah, bro.
[41:38]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[41:38]
Virgil
What's the buffet? What's the Chinese buffet in Bay City? There might be multiple, but there's. There's one that's a banger Lambo walk. Okay. Word.
[41:47]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, Okay. I think it's that one.
[41:49]
Virgil
Yeah. China Chef, though. Great.
[41:50]
That Mexican OT
Call now 1,000%. And it's China Chef or the diamond is. I'm gonna let y' all choose.
[41:56]
Zoe Saldana
All right, so it's probably like, what, like, I don't know, 6 o' clock, 7 o' clock? At this point, that's lunch.
[42:01]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[42:02]
Zoe Saldana
What are we doing after China Chef?
[42:04]
That Mexican OT
I had to go to the back to the house. Smoke again.
[42:10]
Virgil
Video games? Nah. That's a thing you do by yourself.
[42:14]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, we'll probably. We'll probably just sit in the garage and smoke and talk.
[42:19]
Virgil
Nice. I like that.
[42:19]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[42:20]
Zoe Saldana
Drinking beers?
[42:21]
That Mexican OT
Nah.
[42:21]
Zoe Saldana
You don't drink beer?
[42:22]
That Mexican OT
Not too much if I drink beers, you know, it's gotta be something, like going down.
[42:26]
Virgil
Okay.
[42:27]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah, but we're just kicking it.
[42:28]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[42:29]
Zoe Saldana
We're just three guys.
[42:29]
That Mexican OT
I take some shots before I drink beer.
[42:31]
Zoe Saldana
Tequila.
[42:33]
That Mexican OT
1942.
[42:34]
Virgil
Oh, okay.
[42:34]
That Mexican OT
I don't really like drinking though.
[42:36]
Virgil
Okay.
[42:36]
That Mexican OT
I do. The only thing I like about drinking is I. I dance. I like dancing.
[42:40]
Zoe Saldana
What type of dancer are you?
[42:41]
Virgil
Two steps.
[42:42]
That Mexican OT
Two step. You know what I'm saying? Just grooving. Oh, my body. I don't be New York dancing.
[42:48]
Zoe Saldana
You don't be getting sturdy.
[42:49]
That Mexican OT
No.
[42:49]
Virgil
Millie. Rocking.
[42:50]
That Mexican OT
I don't do that. My body. My body don't move like that.
[42:54]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah, things move a little slower in the country.
[42:56]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, absolutely.
[42:57]
Zoe Saldana
Either we're going out or we just.
[42:58]
That Mexican OT
Kicking it around the crib now. I mean, we could go out, you know what I'm saying?
[43:02]
Zoe Saldana
Are you strip club guy?
[43:03]
That Mexican OT
Nah, hell no. They better pay me if I go there.
[43:05]
Virgil
Oh, that's a walk through situation. 100. That's. I respect that, dude. You're about your business.
[43:09]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. And then them hoes be thinking, I'm gonna throw the money, he back on another section. Real. I make a hell with coin.
[43:23]
Virgil
Quarters.
[43:24]
That Mexican OT
Right.
[43:24]
Zoe Saldana
Make it snow. All right, so we're not going to the strip club. What are we doing? Hitting the dive bar, hitting the local or we just kicking it. Yeah, we just stay up all night just talking.
[43:32]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Just bullshitting. Having fun.
[43:35]
Zoe Saldana
Writing raps.
[43:35]
Virgil
Yeah, we hit the stew.
[43:36]
That Mexican OT
You gotta.
[43:37]
Virgil
You got a recording equipment at the crib?
[43:38]
That Mexican OT
Nah, I don't like recording at my house.
[43:40]
Virgil
No, really?
[43:41]
That Mexican OT
Go to my buddies and record. The same place I've been since I was a nobody. I record that still.
[43:45]
Virgil
Yeah.
[43:46]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[43:47]
Zoe Saldana
Virgil.
[43:48]
That Mexican OT
Oh. Oh. We'll probably go to Houston, go to Bubba studio and go chill over there at Big studio.
[43:53]
Virgil
What's your studio vibe? Is it just like smoking and kicking it or like you more locked in? Like, what are you liking?
[43:58]
That Mexican OT
What kind of.
[43:59]
Virgil
What's your session like?
[44:00]
That Mexican OT
If I'm really there to work, I'm locked in, you know what I'm saying? I probably ain't even smoking too much, you know, but if we just there having fun, creating, you know, let's. Let's laugh a little bit, let's smoke a little bit, play the beat while we doing this, you know what I'm saying? Catch that vibe in and go, you know, it's always different.
[44:20]
Zoe Saldana
You're professional.
[44:21]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. You know, but still having fun.
[44:24]
Virgil
Right, right. I respect that.
[44:25]
That Mexican OT
Well, yeah.
[44:25]
Zoe Saldana
If. If this whole rap thing doesn't work out, do you think you have a future in the rodeo?
[44:30]
That Mexican OT
No.
[44:31]
Virgil
We all saw the video of you.
[44:33]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, yeah.
[44:34]
Zoe Saldana
But you love the bro.
[44:35]
That Mexican OT
I'm gonna throw another rodeo in Rosenberg, right? Yeah, I threw one in Bay City. Yeah.
[44:41]
Zoe Saldana
What's. What are the marks about that Mexican rodeo? Like, how's it gonna be different than a normal one?
[44:47]
That Mexican OT
No, it's not gonna be the same. Just rodeo. We'll have our performances. You know what I'm saying? Mud busting for the kids.
[44:54]
Zoe Saldana
Yep.
[44:55]
That Mexican OT
Bull fighting, bull riding. Probably have about 30 riders out there.
[44:59]
Zoe Saldana
What went through your head when that bull was charging you?
[45:06]
Virgil
What I got myself into.
[45:07]
That Mexican OT
It's too late. No, I knew what I got myself into. I was. I was. I was ten toes behind it. I'm ready to go in. But die for this. Yeah. But I was trying to jump over him on that last one, and by the time I was gonna jump, I was like, he's here. I'm coming at you. Faster. Good.
[45:24]
Zoe Saldana
Quick.
[45:25]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, he'd be coming at you fast. And that's not even a grown one. That's like an eight month bull.
[45:29]
Virgil
That's a baby.
[45:30]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, it's a baby.
[45:31]
Zoe Saldana
Is that the first time you got the horns?
[45:32]
That Mexican OT
No.
[45:33]
Zoe Saldana
Okay, so grizzled veteran at this point, you're a grizzled vet.
[45:38]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, no, I ain't gonna say that either. But, you know, I around.
[45:42]
Virgil
That's very clear from this podcast.
[45:47]
Zoe Saldana
I mean, you're such a Texan. The rodeo, all the text mech spot, all the whole day that we just had.
[45:54]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[45:54]
Zoe Saldana
Forgot one thing, though. Are Texas girls the best in the world, man?
[46:00]
That Mexican OT
I think, Arthur, the best in the world. They're beautiful women everywhere.
[46:05]
Zoe Saldana
What about what makes Texas women special?
[46:07]
Virgil
Yeah, we gotta shout them out.
[46:09]
That Mexican OT
The Latinas.
[46:10]
Virgil
Yeah. That's your type.
[46:13]
That Mexican OT
I mean, everyone's type. Yeah.
[46:16]
Virgil
Straight up.
[46:17]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. I love. I love white women. Love Chinese. Any Chinese.
[46:21]
Virgil
Okay.
[46:23]
That Mexican OT
Japanese?
[46:23]
Virgil
Any Asian?
[46:24]
That Mexican OT
Any Asian? I like Mexicans. You know, I mean, you know, you.
[46:29]
Virgil
Don'T discriminate is what I'm understanding.
[46:30]
That Mexican OT
But as long as you clean and good to go and pretty, you know what I'm saying?
[46:36]
Zoe Saldana
Do they have to be country girls?
[46:37]
That Mexican OT
No. So apparently I can't do no hood though.
[46:41]
Virgil
Okay.
[46:41]
That Mexican OT
Can't with no hood.
[46:43]
Virgil
Okay.
[46:44]
Zoe Saldana
But when you're doing country boy blowing things up, throwing poop in the air and whipping it.
[46:51]
That Mexican OT
Get some back, get some pigs. Put baby oil on them, let them run, try to catch them. Yeah, yeah.
[46:58]
Virgil
Go hogging.
[46:59]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Go hugging. Go gigging.
[47:01]
Zoe Saldana
Do you ever do that from the helicopter where you're like shooting wild boards?
[47:04]
That Mexican OT
Yes.
[47:04]
Zoe Saldana
Is that fun?
[47:06]
That Mexican OT
It's cool. But it's better on land because, like, you really hunting, right?
[47:10]
Virgil
You want to stalk and kill your.
[47:11]
That Mexican OT
Prey, you know, it's cool. And then we got cool gadgets, night vision goggles, scopes that record the kill, and their heat sensors, you know, like. Sick.
[47:22]
Zoe Saldana
Are you nice ot.
[47:23]
Virgil
Are you a nice hunter? Like, you're good with the rifle and.
[47:25]
That Mexican OT
I'm good at hunting, period. I put you about 20ft. 15ft on the pig.
[47:28]
Virgil
Okay.
[47:30]
That Mexican OT
Maybe 20.
[47:31]
Zoe Saldana
Okay. Do you eat the pig?
[47:34]
That Mexican OT
Huh?
[47:34]
Zoe Saldana
Do you then eat the pig? No, no, just put it head on the trunk.
[47:39]
That Mexican OT
Oh, yeah. But no, I just leave it there. Okay.
[47:44]
Zoe Saldana
What's the one thing you miss about Texas when you're on the road, Whether you're trip, whether you're on tour?
[47:48]
That Mexican OT
Just home.
[47:49]
Zoe Saldana
Just being home. You're such a homebody.
[47:51]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[47:52]
Zoe Saldana
You love chilling at home.
[47:53]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. I don't like going nowhere.
[47:55]
Zoe Saldana
Is that. Is that tough being a famous rapper?
[47:58]
That Mexican OT
What?
[48:00]
Zoe Saldana
Also just wanted to just be at home all the time.
[48:04]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Because I got do obligations.
[48:06]
Virgil
Right. Got chased the bag.
[48:07]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. When I was. When I was. No, I don't really doing that no more. I get a lot of money elsewhere. I don't need that, you know? But yeah, I just. But even. Even before this rap, like, I don't really like going nowhere.
[48:27]
Zoe Saldana
Is being on tour is that tough?
[48:30]
That Mexican OT
Nah, that fun.
[48:31]
Zoe Saldana
Okay.
[48:31]
That Mexican OT
Because I love doing this. Oh. That's what I was gonna say. When I was a kid, I wasn't ever thinking of this. Right. I didn't even realize labels were a thing, you know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't think of touring. I ain't think of podcasting. I ain't think of the grind. I just thought of me, the music, you know what I'm saying? And then when I got here and I'm like, I gotta do all this. Yeah.
[48:53]
Virgil
It feels like homework, you know? I hope you're having a good time with us.
[48:56]
That Mexican OT
No, I definitely am, but, like, I want to be home.
[48:58]
Zoe Saldana
Do you ever feel like, like the all the extra gets to be too much and you're like, I gotta focus on the music?
[49:07]
That Mexican OT
No.
[49:07]
Zoe Saldana
Okay.
[49:09]
That Mexican OT
I mean, it's a lie, you know what I'm saying? But it ain't nothing I'm a about.
[49:12]
Zoe Saldana
Right.
[49:13]
That Mexican OT
You know what I'm saying?
[49:14]
Zoe Saldana
Do you think. What about at the very beginning we mentioned? You're like, yeah, I realized recently that a lot of rappers, they don't have that creativity, but maybe they have, like, the image or, like, I don't know, the social media presence.
[49:26]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Now there's some people that suck and they're relevant because, like, they just know how to work it. They press it, they push it. They doing it every day. They posting like 10 videos a day, 20 videos, 50 videos a day. They're dropping a music video once a month. You know, there's people that are out there that want it, you know what I'm saying?
[49:43]
Virgil
Is that all it takes, you think, in 2025, to be like a quote unquote famous rapper is just like that drive and grind. You don't even need the bars, like straight up.
[49:53]
That Mexican OT
No. You need something to make you stand out to be a rapper. But that grinding, that hustle, make anything relevant. It won't be jammed, though, you know what I'm saying? But it'll be known, Right? There's a difference.
[50:10]
Zoe Saldana
But your socials are pretty fire. Only because it's like a lot of it is just kind of like a peek into a day in your life, just you and your boys around.
[50:18]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. I mean, that's what they want to see, you know what I'm saying? That's why. And I mean, I jump off a bridge, eat a bowl of right now, and they gonna. And they're gonna applaud it.
[50:27]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah.
[50:27]
That Mexican OT
You know what I'm saying? They're gonna love it because I. I sold myself, you know what I'm saying? They love me.
[50:32]
Zoe Saldana
They just want to hang out with you. We just want to hang out with you.
[50:34]
That Mexican OT
Right. So now anything I do, you know what I'm saying? They just gonna love it.
[50:39]
Zoe Saldana
Is there when you're in New York City specifically, is there anything that, like up in the Northeast that freaks you out a little bit?
[50:45]
That Mexican OT
No.
[50:45]
Zoe Saldana
This is like the lack of parking.
[50:48]
That Mexican OT
No.
[50:48]
Zoe Saldana
Okay.
[50:49]
That Mexican OT
I love everything about out here.
[50:51]
Zoe Saldana
You like New York girls?
[50:52]
That Mexican OT
I love everything about out here.
[50:54]
Zoe Saldana
Yeah. Virgil, how much money do you make?
[50:57]
That Mexican OT
I don't know.
[50:59]
Virgil
A lot.
[50:59]
Zoe Saldana
For. Not enough?
[51:01]
That Mexican OT
More than enough.
[51:02]
Zoe Saldana
Okay. Okay. What do you like to spend because you're a homebody, besides your career and your inner circle, what do you like to spend your money on?
[51:13]
That Mexican OT
Food.
[51:13]
Virgil
Yeah.
[51:14]
That Mexican OT
My four wheelers. Cars.
[51:17]
Virgil
Your toys?
[51:18]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[51:20]
Virgil
Guns from.
[51:22]
That Mexican OT
Anymore? I got a lot of. I got guns.
[51:24]
Zoe Saldana
How many got?
[51:26]
That Mexican OT
I got a lot of ars. I like ars. Arps. I think two pistols. There's a lot of ars.
[51:32]
Virgil
Gotcha.
[51:33]
Zoe Saldana
Was there. Oh, and grills, obviously.
[51:35]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. But Johnny and Paul be blessing me, though.
[51:38]
Zoe Saldana
Oh, really?
[51:38]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[51:39]
Zoe Saldana
Who has the best grill collection of all time? Is it Polo?
[51:43]
That Mexican OT
I don't know, man. There's some cold out there. Paul got some cool. Definitely. And he's always gonna have some of the newest because Johnny, you know, Johnny just always two steps ahead But Pharrell got some section true. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of. With some cold asap. Got some sick.
[52:04]
Zoe Saldana
Big Houston. Big fan of Houston music and Houston culture.
[52:07]
That Mexican OT
There you go. That's New York. And he was screwing his music.
[52:10]
Virgil
Yeah.
[52:10]
That Mexican OT
You know what I'm saying?
[52:12]
Virgil
He popped off. Off that sound.
[52:13]
That Mexican OT
Right. Sip and drank. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Everybody back. Texas has always been the.
[52:18]
Zoe Saldana
Is there a dumb. Just sticking on the topic of money. Have you made a dumb purchase recently? Where, like, you. You know, you're like, I wish I hadn't done that. I lost all my money.
[52:29]
That Mexican OT
No.
[52:29]
Virgil
No regrets.
[52:31]
Zoe Saldana
You're smart with it. You're smart with your money.
[52:33]
That Mexican OT
I mean, not necessarily smart either. I mean, I definitely am getting better, you know, And I got an accountant. I got my people that take care of me. And, you know. But it's money. I told you. It ain't earlier.
[52:49]
Virgil
Right.
[52:50]
That Mexican OT
You know what I'm saying? That's what it's made to be spent.
[52:53]
Virgil
That's true. You can't take it with you.
[52:54]
That Mexican OT
I mean, not even that either. Like, what the. I'm gonna do. Hold on to it. Yeah.
[52:59]
Virgil
What about, like, you have any investments? Like property?
[53:02]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[53:02]
Virgil
Okay.
[53:02]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I got my people, they got me writing.
[53:05]
Zoe Saldana
You know, you gotta open those nail salons.
[53:07]
That Mexican OT
Yeah, I want to. I really, really, really want to. It's just. I'll be busy doing my career. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
[53:14]
Virgil
You got albums to drop.
[53:16]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[53:16]
Zoe Saldana
Tours to go on.
[53:17]
Virgil
Yeah.
[53:17]
Zoe Saldana
Do you have any. Last question. Do you have any constructive criticism you'd like to give us after we spent this time together?
[53:22]
That Mexican OT
This. No, I think you did great.
[53:23]
Zoe Saldana
Oh, thank you, man. Appreciate that. Yeah.
[53:25]
That Mexican OT
Hell, yeah.
[53:27]
Zoe Saldana
When. When is the tour starting? When is the album dropping? Where can the kids follow you? Plug your. Right now, everything.
[53:32]
That Mexican OT
Is that Mescano T spelled correctly? Yeah.
[53:38]
Virgil
Don't spell it wrong or you won't find them.
[53:40]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. For real.
[53:42]
Zoe Saldana
That Mexican OT.
[53:43]
That Mexican OT
There you go. The project dropped August 22nd. It's called RECESS. We're going on tour after that. I'm super excited about it. Anybody that's still on the Mexican OT boat. Thank you. Anybody that jumped out. I love you and I'm excited to see you again.
[54:04]
Zoe Saldana
Come back.
[54:04]
Virgil
Yeah, please.
[54:05]
That Mexican OT
And they will.
[54:06]
Zoe Saldana
Room for everyone. Is there. Is it. Is the album like straight bars? Because the last one was kind of like country, little, you know, like, love saga. Like, are we. Are you sampling different genres? What can you tell us about the project.
[54:23]
That Mexican OT
I was. I love the late 90s, early 2000s. I love everything about that music at that time. I was a child and I was happy. And I got stripped away from a lot of shit when I was a child. You know, I had to go quit, my mama died, my daddy was in prison. I'm already in the hood around this. All my happiness was gone. And so when I listened to this music in that era, it made me feel happy because that's the time I was happy. So I connect that music with that time.
[54:57]
Virgil
Getting back to the essence of it.
[54:58]
That Mexican OT
All, you know what I'm saying? So a lot of this music give me that. This nostalgic feel and I think it's gonna give the world that feel too. And it probably pissed a lot of people off, but again, I don't care. And it's because, I mean God didn't even design you to give a about what people think, you know what I'm saying? Like you, you were only built to really care about what your immediate family thinks. And that's your brothers, sisters, mothers, parents, grandparents, Theos and Theas and cousins. Really like I say, once the third fourth cousin fuck em maybe literally too, because we're not related, you know, like, like them. You know what I'm saying? Like you should only give a about what your family think, maybe even a few friends. But like that's why you got like you got a on social media. So I have millions and millions of followers and get thousands and thousands of comments and they love. And she'll get one comment of like, oh, your nose is crooked and. And she's gonna go get it fixed. Right? That's a sickness. It's an illness. It's a mental illness.
[56:03]
Virgil
Right?
[56:04]
That Mexican OT
You know what I'm saying? And that's not right. You want. You like social media brokers. You're not, you're not made to give a about that.
[56:12]
Virgil
No.
[56:13]
That Mexican OT
So anyways, I brought that up back to, you know, I'm speaking the way I speak and I'm talking about how I talk in this project. A lot of people might not like it. My people might respect it. You know, whatever it is, it's what Virgil wants to do. And at the end of the day, Virgil is going to do what the Virgil wants to do.
[56:30]
Virgil
Let's go.
[56:31]
Zoe Saldana
Did tapping back into the era of music that makes you happy. Are you happy now?
[56:39]
That Mexican OT
That don't make me happy, you know, but the moment like that music made me happy. So I put it in the project. I'm happy about the project. You know what I'm saying? But it's not like, oh, this made me happy. You know, I'm happy is dropping this, but it don't bring me joy. There you go.
[56:56]
Zoe Saldana
Okay.
[56:57]
That Mexican OT
There you go.
[56:58]
Zoe Saldana
What's out August 22nd. You're gonna love it, or it's gonna piss you off. Project which is like, that's. That's art, baby. That's good art.
[57:07]
That Mexican OT
You're either gonna like it or you're not.
[57:09]
Virgil
Yeah. And if you comment either way, he's not gonna read it.
[57:11]
That Mexican OT
Yeah. Yeah.
[57:12]
Zoe Saldana
He's not getting his nose fixed.
[57:13]
That Mexican OT
Yeah.
[57:14]
Zoe Saldana
I promise you, Virgil. That makes no t. Thank you for coming. It's the only podcast that matters.
[57:20]
That Mexican OT
N. Thank you, man. I appreciate you guys having me, man. Bless y' all, man and chef.
[57:26]
Zoe Saldana
Take us out.
[57:27]
That Mexican OT
Peace.
[57:29]
Zoe Saldana
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[57:44]
That Mexican OT
Let's go.
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Zoe Saldana
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[57:52]
That Mexican OT
Brad, you're on mute.
[57:53]
Zoe Saldana
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