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Katherine
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Bobby Lee
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Jaime
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Bobby Lee
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George
Are you auditioning for something?
Andrew
Excuse me?
George
Are you auditioning for something?
Andrew
No, I'm not. Hey, who. What? What? Who the are you talking to?
Katherine
It's me, Little Mice.
Andrew
Oh, little Mars. Where have you been?
Katherine
Hey, boss, I got the drugs in the back.
Bobby Lee
You.
Andrew
You got the drugs in the back?
Katherine
Yeah.
Andrew
Did you see a two time patch girl? Y2, three times. Three times over here. She got a crazy voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
George
A chin foreface. What's up?
Jaime
Hey, my name Juan.
Andrew
Oh, he ain't even from Brooklyn.
Jaime
No.
Andrew
Where you from?
Jaime
From Utah.
Andrew
What? Utah? Is. Is there a Sicily in Utah?
Jaime
It's a Salt Lake City.
Andrew
It's a Salt Lake City. Same thing. Same thing. Same thing. Same thing. How you doing?
Bobby Lee
Good.
Andrew
What's your name? I forgot. Twinky. Twinky? Twinky? Twinky, you know. Oh, I remember you.
Bobby Lee
Twinky's cousin.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah.
Katherine
What is it?
Andrew
Pass. Hey, how you doing?
George
What did you call Twinky?
Bobby Lee
Call me Twinky.
George
Oh, Twinky.
Andrew
You told me you didn't want me to call you that anymore.
Bobby Lee
That's okay.
Andrew
John park dumbfounded. A round of applause.
George
Author.
Andrew
I don't know.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, I think that's you.
Andrew
That's me.
Bobby Lee
That's you.
Andrew
Okay.
Jaime
Author.
Andrew
That's hilarious.
Katherine
Put the book on camera, Bobby.
George
Why is that hilarious? He's an author. Put the book on camera and give it a rave review.
Andrew
Well, you got the front, I'll get the back. You got front and back.
George
I'll do the side.
Andrew
I'll do the side. Okay. And they'll just open to one random page. Can I read an excerpt?
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
Of one of your. May I just one.
Katherine
Choose a pages.
Andrew
Yeah. I'm going to randomly and I'm going to do it as a character.
Bobby Lee
I like that. I like that.
Andrew
I'm not going to do Andrew Rice Clay anymore. I'm going to take the glasses off.
Jaime
Can I see them? Can I see the book?
Katherine
Yeah.
Andrew
It's like. It's like him asking the book. It's like saying, you know, can I give you. Can you give me the formula of the nuclear bomb? There's just no way to be able to understand. Not good joke.
Katherine
It was okay.
Jaime
It's okay. Barrel, you know, can I see the glasses real quick?
Andrew
Absolutely not.
George
Why?
Katherine
Those are like fancy.
Andrew
They're very expensive.
Bobby Lee
Let's have read an excerpt. How about that?
Andrew
Oh, yeah, I pick it away. I pick you the excerpt. You have to say it as long as. As fast as you can.
Jaime
How to Roast and Read the Room.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, we would love to learn because I don't know. I don't know those rules. Go ahead.
Jaime
You want me to do a little voice or just my number?
Bobby Lee
Your reading voice.
George
Yeah, you're reading.
Bobby Lee
It's for the audiobook. Okay. Going to do. Use it.
Andrew
Oh, yeah, hire as a narrator.
Bobby Lee
We're going to use that.
Andrew
That's going to be an 18 hour audio one.
Jaime
Chapter one, chapter 24, spit a life and Battles.
Andrew
No, you don't have to do this.
Bobby Lee
That's a good intro. I like the audio book.
Jaime
Right?
Bobby Lee
Yeah, you do it.
MacKenzie
It's like available on Amazon now. You going to add that?
Jaime
What's cuz on Amazon?
Andrew
Amazon never
Bobby Lee
cuz on.
Jaime
Well, Amazon Books, right? They have like a preview, right?
Bobby Lee
This is the preview.
Jaime
I. I'd read books.
Andrew
Jaime, can you just pick a chapter and read a paragraph?
Jaime
Spit a Life in Battles by Joni Park. Johnny, but you know, Johnny, aka third state books, page 97.
Andrew
Oh, cool.
Jaime
How to Roast and Read the Room. Here's a little thought exercise by Johnny Park. What are your top five ways you could insult an Asian guy?
Bobby Lee
I don't know why this has to be the chef.
George
Wait, this is funny. How to insult.
Andrew
I can't believe you literally wrote this.
Bobby Lee
It's a thought exercise. Okay, Just keep.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
More to it than that.
Andrew
I know. I'm really interested to learn, so I'm learning.
Bobby Lee
I do a thought exercise. Do the thought exercises asking you to do.
Andrew
All right, so go to first. What's the first page?
Jaime
97.
Andrew
I'll go to. You want to do a group reading?
Jaime
Yes.
Andrew
All right, 97. I can't read. Read to read this.
George
We're all engaged now. This is great.
Bobby Lee
It worked. It worked off the first page that he.
George
How do I insult an Asian guy?
Andrew
Okay, let me read it. What?
Jaime
Go ahead.
Andrew
Thank you. Because I'm very. I'm very curious about these rules.
Bobby Lee
There's no rules.
Andrew
No, no, no. The thought exercise.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
All right. How to Roast and read the Room. That doesn't sound like a thought exercise.
Bobby Lee
Just, just, just.
Andrew
No, no, wait. That doesn't sound like. Does that sound like a thought exercise?
Bobby Lee
Well, it's starting with a thought. It.
Andrew
That sounds like a cure. This is how you do it, which is instructional.
Katherine
I don't think that he's going to tell you what to say about an Asian guy. I think it's just what do you what?
Bobby Lee
I'm going to practice what comes to the average mind.
Andrew
I'm going to practice him, all right?
Katherine
He's not going to be like, call him the C word or call.
Andrew
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's talk about the average mind. Who has an average mind? I think, Jaime, you have the average mind.
Jaime
Yeah.
Andrew
Put the foot down. Put the book down. Put the foot down and close the book.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. So if you close.
Andrew
Just close the book.
Bobby Lee
Okay. And read that first part for him.
Andrew
I am going to. Okay, cool. But I want you to just judge, okay, to see if this is perfect.
Katherine
A true thought exercise.
Andrew
A true thought exercise or telling people what to do.
Katherine
Yeah.
Andrew
Cool. Okay, here we go.
Katherine
If there's a C word or a G word.
Andrew
I don't know what you're talking about with those words. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How to roast a room and read. No.
Katherine
Can you do it regular?
Andrew
Sorry, I'm gonna take my glasses off. I think it's fucking it.
Bobby Lee
All right, all right, go ahead, go ahead.
Andrew
How to roast and read the room.
Bobby Lee
Pretty.
Andrew
Could read. Good tone.
Katherine
Yeah.
Andrew
Okay, here's a little thought exercise. Oh. What are the top five ways you could insult an Asian guy? If you're Asian, you probably won't have to think too hard, but if you're not Asian, don't worry, you won't get canceled. Good. Okay, good. Already good, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Andrew
Most likely within your list are the following commonly held stereotypes. Now, this is where I'm gonna have a problem.
Bobby Lee
No, no, let's see.
Andrew
Okay, let's see. Okay. Asians have small.
Bobby Lee
Wait, hold on, hold on. I thought you're gonna try to see if he can guess the ones. That's the whole idea of the thought exercise.
Andrew
If you're not Asian.
Bobby Lee
If you're not Asian, like, what would be the first things you think of?
Katherine
All right, don't read it.
Andrew
No, I'm not gonna read it. So, all right, so here's some stereotypes held by people. And can you. Can it. Name them?
Katherine
Name one.
Andrew
Jaime.
Jaime
Terrible drivers.
Andrew
Okay, it's on it.
Bobby Lee
It's on it.
George
Yeah.
Katherine
I'll go. For a second, I'll go.
Jaime
Oh, rice eater.
George
I like that.
Andrew
It's a global thing.
Katherine
Yeah, that's not. That's not too bad, though, because I have been called, like, a rice picker.
George
Oh, interesting.
Andrew
It's still not. There's no way that, you know, that's.
Bobby Lee
That wouldn't be like if Steve Harvey. If Steve Harvey was like Family Feud. Is it on the board?
Andrew
Like, rice Picker would not be on Cabbage Eater. Oh, yeah, like Germans eat cabbage. People eat cabbage.
Katherine
Sauerkraut.
Bobby Lee
It's like racist Family Feud. It really is.
George
Yeah, I. What else?
Jaime
Think five.
Andrew
You got one.
Bobby Lee
Is there. There's five, right? Or something.
Andrew
You wrote it.
Bobby Lee
I know, and I'm saying, how many are there?
Andrew
Yeah, there's five.
Jaime
Small eyes.
Andrew
Okay, that's on. But I already said that.
Jaime
Okay, Small eyes, Something with instruments. Like, they're good with discipline.
Andrew
Those are. You're talking about Asian Attack.
Bobby Lee
That's a great compliment.
Andrew
It's a compliment. That's truth.
George
He's also Gen Z, so maybe they
Andrew
don't even know, you know. You know they have updates. I have an argument. I have an argument against that.
Bobby Lee
They got updated stereotypes. They're good at Tick tock. I don't know. This like K pop.
Andrew
See? No, you want to just.
Bobby Lee
Why don't you guys. Why don't you guess? George, George, George, you get.
MacKenzie
I was like waiting to get tagged in here.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
Go ahead, George. Go ahead, George.
Andrew
You go close your book. Yeah.
MacKenzie
Wait. Good at math. Small dicks.
Bobby Lee
Slow down. Yeah, yeah. You nailed the math. Good at math.
Andrew
Yeah, you got two. You got two right on the number.
Bobby Lee
I think that's exactly how I wrote it, too.
Andrew
You know what I mean? Small dicks. Go ahead.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah.
MacKenzie
Let's see. Something about yellow.
Andrew
No. Oh, I'm already out. No, you get another shot. This next one is classic. I wouldn't say this is a thing, but go ahead.
Katherine
Oh, no, you can't just throw that around.
Andrew
What'd you say? No, no, it's not Asian slur.
George
It's not the list.
Andrew
This is your opportunity to do an Asian slur.
Bobby Lee
Okay, let's move on.
Andrew
What's the fifth one is like, we all look alike.
Bobby Lee
Asians all look al. So that was the idea that, like, I'm setting it up for my experience, obviously in battles and things I've gotten hit with commonly. And so those are.
Andrew
Well, there are other stereotypes that we.
Bobby Lee
And like, like I've said, like it's obvious because most of the people got it right.
Andrew
I understand, but what was the point of just listing only 5?
George
You have to read the rest of the chapter.
Andrew
Oh, you have to read the rest.
Bobby Lee
Come on.
Katherine
I'm going to get to.
Andrew
Oh, well, now I look terrible because
Bobby Lee
that's all I wrote.
Andrew
All right, go ahead.
Katherine
But it's like self explanatory. You have to know what. You got to anticipate what they're going to say about You? Yeah, already. So that you. You can give something back.
Andrew
Yeah, but I already have 19 bullets loaded. Sure. Every time I meet anybody, I. You hear in my mind, well, that's.
Bobby Lee
That's part of it. It's like. It's like the Eminem 8 mile effect where he went on stage and is like, yeah, I am a trailer trash. I am white.
Andrew
I am, you know, whatever you call yourself out first.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. It's. It's the tactic of, like. It's comedy. Right. Like, you know that.
Andrew
I mean, do you know it?
MacKenzie
I know.
Andrew
I'm kidding. I think you're probably very funny, but don't be.
Katherine
Roasting is so. Oh, that's about roasting, right? Yeah, because, like, I feel like how
George
to roast and read the.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Katherine
Because I feel like there are some really good, like, standups who don't know how to, like, roast, like, at all, or that's not, like, their strength. Right.
Bobby Lee
Sure.
Katherine
And I don't think you like to roast. You don't ever do those.
Andrew
Andrew. Andrew and I don't like to roast. Not that we can't.
Katherine
Yeah.
Andrew
I just feel it to be mean.
Bobby Lee
You do it all the time on the podcast.
Andrew
No, no, I don't
Bobby Lee
mean. When was he like.
Andrew
I've never roasted on the podcast. That's insane.
Bobby Lee
You roasted me on and off the podcast all the time.
Andrew
I don't know the definition of roast.
George
You talk about Kalila's eyes every podcast, Bobby.
Andrew
They're called truths.
Jaime
Yeah, that's a rose.
Andrew
That's not a rose. Oh. So what's the difference between observations?
Bobby Lee
Well, the truth is, what's the difference
Andrew
between observation and a roast?
Bobby Lee
The roast kind of have to hit after they see you to, like. Okay, this might be a small truth. You know what I mean? I think there needs to be some sort of kernel of truth that you can connect.
Andrew
I think what I do, though, is, is that if I might be. You know. And, you know, here's another thing. You know, a lot of people think I'm aggressive on the podcast, and I'm
Katherine
bullyish that you roast all day.
George
You're one of the best roasters in the podcast.
Bobby Lee
Here's the definition of the roast.
Andrew
Yeah. What is the definition?
Bobby Lee
A form of insult comedy where a specific person is subjected to jokes, ridicule, and playful mockery, often with an underlying tone of affection or intended humor.
George
That's like your whole.
Andrew
Okay. That's like.
George
Yeah, there's love behind it.
Andrew
No, no, let me defend. Let me defend myself real quick. Okay.
Katherine
Who just left the Guy who said the C word.
Andrew
Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I still haven't forgot about that.
Jaime
What? Oh, I can't get canceled. Hey, look, and this. This one's funny. You wrote that.
George
We found your audience. You found your audience.
Bobby Lee
Well, don't say.
Jaime
I'm not gonna say that one.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah.
Jaime
Here's a roast for you, Bobby.
Andrew
Yeah.
Jaime
I'll beat your ass like a Korean dad when you bring a B in math. Where's that from? Is this from a movie?
Bobby Lee
It's a line that I got hit with. I'll beat your ass like a Korean dad.
Andrew
Oh, say it like what you're asking me.
Bobby Lee
I'll beat your ass like a Korean dad when you bring home a B in math.
Andrew
And Era goes.
Bobby Lee
And then he starts pop locking. He starts doing the robot.
Andrew
That's what they do. That's what they do, right?
Bobby Lee
They don't do that.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give me another one. I want to. I like this one.
Jaime
Which. Which one of y. Oh, you read that one.
Andrew
Yeah, you read it.
Bobby Lee
No, no, there's another.
Andrew
Give me a roast. I'm going to. Okay.
Jaime
When it's raining cats and dogs, you run outside. You run outside with packs of sauce.
George
I want.
Andrew
Oh, you can't see me.
Bobby Lee
All right, say one more. Say one more.
Jaime
Yo, look at your moon shaped Lucy Lou face. Your dick is half used. Tube of a toothpaste.
Bobby Lee
And then the head explodes. Just.
Andrew
Well, I understand. Understand it now. Yeah, I understand.
Bobby Lee
The funny thing is all those jokes don't work against him.
Andrew
They're not good at all.
Bobby Lee
Shut up.
Andrew
Well, you got. Here's the thing.
Bobby Lee
Well, you know, if you're reading the. The roast in a book, it's not going to hit the same.
Andrew
It's a good book.
Bobby Lee
It's a good book.
Katherine
Thank you.
Bobby Lee
You haven't even read the book.
Andrew
I read the whole book three times.
Bobby Lee
You didn't read.
Andrew
I read it backwards. Yeah, yeah. So what I want to say is. And I. I just want to get to this argument and let's. We can move on.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Andrew
Is that. Me and Andrew don't roast. Like, we've been asked to do roasts on Comedy Central, and it's like, number one, I don't write that way.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
And I think roasts have punchlines in them. You know what I mean? And heavy references. I mean, they're designed, right. I mean, a good roast is clever. You know what I mean? They usually have cultural significance of what's going on now. And I think that. And they're mean a lot of it's mean. So it's like. For me, it's like I feel bad about it, what I'm doing here on this podcast. And just literally looking at your face.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
Right. And just seeing what I'm seeing.
George
So what would you say now?
Andrew
I just think that he's. Now, how you doing? I could say like this. You know, some people call choking the chicken. That was a friend of mine in the neighborhood stroking the pipe. That's another friend of mine.
Katherine
You know, I like. I. I like the word wank. I feel like it's a little less aggressive.
Andrew
I like spanking the monkey. Hey, baby, what's up? Slap. Slapping the salami, baby.
Jaime
Back in my neighborhood, I used to wank the papaya.
Katherine
Oh, my God.
Andrew
I've never heard of that. Hello. So anyway, masturbate.
Katherine
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Andrew
Or have sexual intercourse.
Katherine
All the good, you know?
Andrew
All the good.
Katherine
Yeah.
George
And then when you're done, use a tissue.
Katherine
Yeah. Don't use your old socks or don't use. Whatever.
Andrew
Yeah.
Katherine
Be a gentleman and use it.
Andrew
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Katherine
What does that mean?
Andrew
What I do is I masturbate, ejaculate 21 times out of the month. Do you know why?
Katherine
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Andrew
Why?
Katherine
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Andrew
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Katherine
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Jaime
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Bobby Lee
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Jaime
Right.
Andrew
And just seeing what I'm seeing.
George
So what would you say now?
Andrew
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Bobby Lee
Well, it's closed, but here's the thing.
Andrew
That's not even funny. Yeah, yeah, cut that part out.
Bobby Lee
No, we're keeping that. We're keeping that.
Andrew
That's. I mean, that's why my roast. I'm not a roaster.
Bobby Lee
No, no, but here's the thing.
Andrew
Just tell, right, The.
Bobby Lee
You know, the Comedy Central roasts are more prepared.
Andrew
You look more like a moon than me.
Bobby Lee
Okay. All right.
Andrew
I mean, look at your skin color. You're. I mean, way more moon than me.
Bobby Lee
He just moved on because his. It didn't hit on Jaime. So he's like, let me move on to this guy. No, but what I mean is there's multiple styles, right? Like, you have the Comedy Central. Everyone's prepared, and they're setting it up and doing culturally relevant stuff. But if you're in a room with, like, 12 black dudes, then they're gonna. Every second there's a roast, you know? I mean, like, every three seconds.
Andrew
If I was in a room with 12 black dudes, right? That'd be. I would say anything.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, what would you say?
Andrew
Nothing.
Bobby Lee
You didn't say anything.
Andrew
Yeah, because I don't know the rules.
Bobby Lee
The rules is just everyone's hitting each other. Jack.
Andrew
If. Are they 12 black guys? I know. Well, yeah, then that's fine. Yeah, yeah, it'll be the same.
Bobby Lee
What would be.
Andrew
The two random black guys walk into a barber from Detroit or D.C. you know, I mean, and I'm just sitting there. Let's do it. You know, I'm not going to say anything.
Bobby Lee
I feel like you would get warmed up and then kind of.
Andrew
I don't think I would get warmed up.
Bobby Lee
No, no, no. You don't think.
Andrew
No, no, no. I told this story the other day 20 years ago. I was at the DC Improv and I did my show. I walked out, it was second show late, and I bumped into this black dude and I go. And I felt bad. Cause I think I was kind of more leaning in toward him. I didn't see him.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
Cause it was dark.
Katherine
Wow. That like flew over my head.
George
I think it flew over all our heads.
Andrew
That wasn't the story. You know what I mean?
Bobby Lee
It didn't fly over my head.
Andrew
I know, but whenever it pause like that, I want to know.
Katherine
Yeah, yeah.
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Andrew
Multiple rooms with many beds, right? That's what I meant to say.
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Katherine
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Andrew
Me too.
Katherine
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Andrew
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Katherine
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MacKenzie
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Andrew
And I just instinctively went, I'm sorry, brother. I said, brother. And he turned around, he goes, I ain't your brother, mother. Right. And I went, I just thought about it. Like, I ruminate on things.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
All night long. Just like, what did I do wrong? What could have been different? You know what I mean? I should have just said, my bad. And that's it. Like, I just, it just came out like that. And it had no intention of.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
You know, I mean, then I realized, oh, I can't call my black friend's brother.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, he might, he might have added like, he might have thought you added that in just for him. Yeah, just for him.
Andrew
No, but have I not bumped into you, George, and said brother?
George
I say all the time.
MacKenzie
Socal term.
George
Brother.
Bobby Lee
You think it's here?
MacKenzie
Brother.
Andrew
Yeah, brother.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah.
Andrew
What is the equivalent of brother with Asian Z man, Asians? If I was a white guy, I bumped into you and he said something that would make you snap. What is the equivalent of brother?
MacKenzie
Excuse me, Math whiz.
Bobby Lee
Jesus.
George
With that voice too?
Bobby Lee
Yeah, with that voice.
Jaime
Excuse me. Math wins.
Andrew
Literally.
Bobby Lee
I would not get mad like, yeah, my bad China. Or something, you know, like that.
Katherine
Sorry about that. Like, yeah, like that. Or hello Kitty or something like that.
Jaime
China.
Sponsor Voice
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Bobby Lee
Squid games. Know that's crazy.
Andrew
Oh, yeah, yeah, my bad. Squid games.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
Let me see how I feel that.
George
Is that the same though?
Sponsor Voice
That's just like.
Bobby Lee
That's like the same offensive thing.
Andrew
That's a good piece of work too. You. Me, you know, I mean, it's. It's like you Know how about if
Katherine
it was something like oppa or it's
Andrew
like if I ran into the black Ey and I went. My bad blackboard jungle. Because that was Sydney Pelpon movie.
Katherine
Oh, yeah.
Andrew
You know what I mean? That's why.
Bobby Lee
That's explaining that.
Andrew
That's what they.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Andrew
We. I don't think you would have the same.
George
You know, I mean, isn't brother universal at this point?
Andrew
That's what I'm saying.
George
Brother. Er, is very universal.
Andrew
I did a really hard R. Yeah. I mean, so maybe that was a problem. Brother. No, I went brother. That was also 15, 20 years ago. I think things would be different. Yeah. I mean, brother. Because anyway, why did I even get into that story? Oh, back to stereotypes and this and that.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
Do you know other.
George
Do you see this?
Andrew
I don't want to see it. You don't have to see.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, okay.
George
Whatever.
Andrew
Yeah, I don't want to see it. Okay, thank you. But where are some other stereotypes that you think we have?
Bobby Lee
Well, that's. That's the whole thing about the book.
Andrew
I was talking. Because the Asians. Asians look alike. I think is wrong.
Bobby Lee
No, I think people have said that.
Katherine
People definitely said.
Bobby Lee
People have definitely said.
Andrew
Well, through my wisdom and through my fury, I.
Bobby Lee
Which I think, to me, it's like every race. If on a show, sometimes you get confused. Like, if I watch Game of Thrones, it's tough. There's a lot of kings and shit that I mistaken for each other.
Andrew
What do you mean?
Bobby Lee
I'm saying it happens with every culture. Every culture.
Andrew
You know, I saw Pete Holmes the other day, and I thought it was Tucker Carlson. I'm not kidding you.
Katherine
I believe you.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah. He came into the room. I go, oh, my God, Tucker Carlson's here.
Katherine
Yeah. For the longest time, I thought Katy Perry and Zooey Deschanel. Like, I couldn't.
Andrew
That's what I'm saying. So that stereotype of Asian people looking alive.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's like Zoe Saldana and Sandy.
Katherine
Sandy Newton.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, they get that a lot too. Like doppelganger kind of vibes. Yeah, I think Audrey, Margaret, Margot Quali and Samantha.
Andrew
No, just to let him say. What'd you say?
Bobby Lee
No, not Margaret. Quality.
Andrew
No, no, no, no, no, no. So you don't have to.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Andrew
What'd you say?
Bobby Lee
The.
Jaime
The girl. The lady from the Wolf of Wall Street.
Katherine
What's her name?
George
He's just listing credits. What's the name?
Jaime
Something. Something. Robbie.
Andrew
Yeah, there you go.
Jaime
And then that lady from Ready or not.
Andrew
What's her name, something. Okay.
Jaime
I don't know these ladies.
Andrew
I understand that. But it's like sometimes people confuse you
Bobby Lee
for just the same type of genre of thing you're in.
Andrew
You're right. I just want to address this real quick.
Bobby Lee
Okay, go ahead, please.
Andrew
If you don't know what you're going to say it.
Jaime
I said it.
George
You already said it.
Andrew
What I'm saying you're right and I'm wrong.
Bobby Lee
People have definitely called you, like, another Asian comedian just because you guys are both Asian in, like, the same genre of thing. I'm sure.
Andrew
Yeah, that's happened. Yeah.
Bobby Lee
I'm sure they've said, like, Ken Jong or this, you know, like.
Andrew
Well, no, I got. One time, I got hired. I. And this is way before, like, Internet had just started. And Matt Blake calls me, go, this is a weird one. But they're huge fans and they want you to this convention in Texas.
Katherine
This.
Andrew
And I go, how much is it? And they gave me it was pretty good money. And so I go, I'll do it. The day before, the guy. I forgot what company it was, he called me. He goes, hey, I just want to ask. We're excited. You have a Southern accent, right? And I go, oh, you're thinking about Henry.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
Right? And they go, oh, that's crazy.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, we.
Andrew
We don't want. We're not gonna do it. And I go, okay, I get it.
Bobby Lee
That's wild.
Andrew
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
That happens with me and Timothy Daylight Chalamet. Yeah, me and Chalamet. Yeah. Tim Chunk Durangsu. Timothy delaghetto. You know, Love him.
Andrew
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
But, like, it's because we're both in hip hop spaces. Like, you look down, you look more like Timothy Chalamet.
Katherine
Yeah, you look cool.
Andrew
You. You really do more look like.
Bobby Lee
But I get that.
Katherine
Just.
Andrew
Good point.
Bobby Lee
Two people that are in, like, a specific space, you know, that, like, Asian dudes in hip hop are wilding out or whatever.
Andrew
Let me see. I have gotten this. Yeah, yeah.
George
Someone. People made a lit. Do you guys see these ones?
Andrew
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Lake Bell and Amed. They do not look.
Katherine
Do not look alike at all because Lake Bell is a very specific.
Andrew
They look nothing alike. That's crazy. Crazy. That's crazy.
Bobby Lee
Crazy.
Jaime
Oh, yeah.
Bobby Lee
Peter Dinklage and Iced tea.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
I kind of could see that one.
George
Yes.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
That one's really hard.
George
Margot Robbie and James.
Bobby Lee
This one's.
Andrew
Yeah, that's really hard. Like, I can see myself go up Margot Robbie.
Bobby Lee
They just have that. A certain look. They have a vibe for sure.
Katherine
No. You know who's the. It's Javier Bardem and that other guy.
Andrew
Yes. That's a hard one. That's a difficult.
Katherine
Look it up. Like.
Andrew
That's a hard one.
Bobby Lee
I could see this.
Katherine
Like, it's the guy from, like, what show? He's a. He's in a couple movies, isn't. He's in, like, that.
George
Oh, Jeffrey. Dean Morgan.
Katherine
Yes.
George
Oh, Negan.
Andrew
Is it in Watchmen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That guy.
George
They do have the same face.
Katherine
Yeah.
Andrew
Can you put him back here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Area. What do we got?
Bobby Lee
Look at that bottom line. Oh, wow. Wow.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah. So white people, Mexican people, Spanish people. Everyone looks.
Bobby Lee
Everyone has to see.
Katherine
That's a really good one. Margot Robb, Emma Mackey from sex education.
Andrew
Yeah, that's a tough one.
Katherine
Extremely similar. Like, they could be sisters.
Andrew
Yeah. So that stereotype. Let's go back to the stereotype. Yeah. That stereotype to me is not real.
Bobby Lee
That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
Andrew
The Asian people.
Bobby Lee
Well, so if you further read it so it doesn't look like I'm just teaching how to. People, stop teaching people how to roast.
Andrew
What the whole book is about, guys,
Bobby Lee
is I break down house. A lot of those things are false. Statistically, too. I actually have facts and historical.
Andrew
Well, I. Well, statistically, I think the Asian eyes, you know, I mean, let me give you the. Give me the statistics on the Asian eyes.
Bobby Lee
Well, take a look. Read.
Andrew
Well, you didn't memorize it. You wrote it.
Bobby Lee
I didn't memorize the whole.
Andrew
I want to know statistically. Asian Eyes, page 98.
George
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Andrew
The. Bingo. Thank you for doing the.
Bobby Lee
And then what else did I say at the end of the.
George
Got some jokes. I know.
Andrew
Read the jokes. Read the jokes.
George
The punchline is, I cannot confirm whether or not it was Asian researchers who conducted the study.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, that's. That's the joke. Sorry.
George
No, that's why I didn't read it. Works better when you read it.
Bobby Lee
Yes, yes. You got to read it on your own.
Andrew
All right.
Bobby Lee
Why don't you write a book of jokes?
Andrew
All right.
Bobby Lee
Your jokes didn't hit earlier, too.
Katherine
All right, wait.
George
I will say. Yeah, Listeners should keep reading this. It's actually really fun.
Andrew
It really is enlightening.
George
It's fun.
Andrew
Yeah. I'm almost jealous I didn't write the book. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a really good book. It's called Split the Mind.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. It's called. No, it's called Spit. It's called Spit.
Andrew
Sorry. Sorry, I didn't read it. I could get. I gotta get glasses.
MacKenzie
Spit.
Andrew
A Life in Battles.
Bobby Lee
Yep.
Andrew
That's really cool, dude. Go check it out at your nearest Walmart.
George
Nearest Amazon.com.
Bobby Lee
it's available. Barnes and Noble.
Andrew
I'm really. I'm very proud of you because I've been working on a book for a decade. It's still not even finished.
Bobby Lee
There's a mention of you, too, in there.
George
What page is Bobby?
Bobby Lee
No, the same small dick section. Come on. That one should have got.
Andrew
No, I know, but it hurts actually.
George
Did you mention Bobby in this?
Bobby Lee
I know I did. I mentioned something about me having, like, a list of like. Like, petty things. I keep, like, list. And him talking about me never being an action star. I put it on the list.
Andrew
Nice. I mentioned one time, and you're mentioned
Bobby Lee
as like, some, like, Asian pioneers that I talk about. There's a lot of Asian American history.
George
Talks about Sun Kang here.
Andrew
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
Talk about you, too.
Andrew
For how long?
Bobby Lee
There's a good. There's a good three mentions of you throughout the book.
Andrew
Is there a paragraph?
Bobby Lee
There's no paragraph.
Andrew
But there's. Ali Wong had that paragraph.
Bobby Lee
No, Ali Wong I don't think is mentioned in the book.
Andrew
No, but for me and in her book, I was a paragraph.
Bobby Lee
Oh, you're A whole paragraph.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah. And I.
Bobby Lee
Crazy. I mean, mentions are stronger than a paragraph, you know?
Andrew
Okay. Yeah. All right. I mean, because, you know. You know, brother. We're brothers.
Bobby Lee
You're mentioned in the book. 100.
Andrew
All right, I'll mention in my book.
Bobby Lee
What would your book be about, actually?
Andrew
My life story.
Bobby Lee
Your whole life story.
Andrew
I just said that.
Katherine
No, because. That's a good point. Your whole life or what is going on?
Bobby Lee
Because here's the difference.
Andrew
Honestly, what is going on here? Here.
Bobby Lee
So mine is a whole life memoir. Memoir focuses on a period of time. Like, it doesn't follow me all the way till right now. Do you know what I'm saying? So that's an autobiography of memoirs.
Andrew
Ask me again.
Bobby Lee
Okay. What would your memoir be about?
Andrew
My life story. Say what you're saying.
Bobby Lee
What would your book be about?
Andrew
My life story.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Andrew
And then your. You said your whole life story.
Bobby Lee
A whole life story. But that's what I meant.
Andrew
I have a joke.
Bobby Lee
Okay. Your whole life story.
Andrew
Yeah. No,
George
How did you get confused in your own.
Andrew
I know, because he kept. He didn't Understand it. I gotta get it out.
Bobby Lee
No, but I did explain.
Andrew
I have a tick. No, do it again.
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Bobby Lee
What would your book be about?
Andrew
My life story.
Bobby Lee
Your whole life story?
Andrew
No. October 12, 2012. All right, I know, but if.
Jaime
Yeah.
Andrew
Do the thing.
Katherine
Because it's too many twelves.
Bobby Lee
I. I would say. I would really. I think. I think you should write a book, Bobby. I think you should write.
Andrew
I am writing one.
Bobby Lee
Are you?
Andrew
Yes. Autobiography and autobiographical.
Bobby Lee
Oh, I didn't know that.
Katherine
One word per day.
Bobby Lee
One word per day.
Andrew
I do one word for it per day.
George
If you had to do a memoir, what part of your life would you write a whole book about?
Andrew
Like a memoir? Well, there's chapters to my. You know, probably. If I. If I were going to do it, I would do it like an era.
George
Where would.
Katherine
Where would it end?
George
What's the most iconic?
Andrew
Well, it's not done.
Katherine
No, just. I'm saying, like, there has to be a stopping point because you can't keep
Bobby Lee
writing about what's currently mine ends in the late 20s.
Andrew
Just to clarify, I think my. By the time I finish the book is that time. Oh, I mean, like, I'll write it. The last thing. I mean, currently, this is the. The last line is like, I'm currently this old and doing this.
Katherine
How many mentions does Johnny get?
Andrew
I don't know how much.
George
How many mentions? Obviously, number one, I think Kalila's a chapter.
Bobby Lee
That's a chapter. I have a chapter about a girl in my book.
Katherine
Is that the one you wrote back and forth?
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Katherine
Oh, I love.
Bobby Lee
I have. I have a. I have a part about it of visiting Korea for the first time.
Andrew
Meeting stuffy.
Bobby Lee
No, no, no, no, no.
Andrew
How many times has Stephanie.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. She hasn't mentioned in a. About a song. And I put her in a song, like, subliminally, she should have a chapter. Okay.
Andrew
All right.
Bobby Lee
Okay, cool.
George
And Rick.
Bobby Lee
Rick has a section in there too,
Andrew
because who has them? Who's the most mentioned again? Let me guess.
Bobby Lee
My dad.
Andrew
No, they got Anderson Park.
Bobby Lee
No, he wrote the forward.
Andrew
Of course. He wrote the foreign. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
But my dad is the first chapter. And I feel bad because I said a lot of things about him that if he actually read it, like, if it was translated, it's pretty deep. So break him a little bit. I mean, I don't speak highly of him in the book.
Katherine
Book.
Bobby Lee
So I conflicted with that part afterwards.
Andrew
I was like, is this when he read it? Was he mad?
Bobby Lee
He's never read it and I haven't.
Andrew
Why Is he read it?
Bobby Lee
Because first, it's in English and his English isn't that great. Second, I haven't. It's. It's a little tough because there's a lot of details of like growing up with him, you know, the abusive parts, stuff you've talked about. But like, your dad wasn't like. Was he listening to your podcast and stuff when you were talking about him?
Andrew
He doesn't know. My dad didn't know what show business or what music was. Yeah. Mean, there's like you go to a mall and something would be playing. It's almost like white noise or whatever. They don't register it. They don't like it. The first. I already told you a million times. What the first song you ever fucking listened to. Yeah, yeah. So it's like.
Bobby Lee
But what if somebody actually translate all the stuff you said about him on the pod like directly to him? Explained it. Would he be hurt by that?
Andrew
He wouldn't even understand. I don't think what I was even saying. He'd be. Oh, good. Very good. You're a piece of. Ah, good, good.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah.
Katherine
So good.
Andrew
You're going to have. Yeah, yeah. He doesn't know. There's like. No.
Bobby Lee
I do wonder if this was translated. He read it in Korean. If it would hurt him, you know.
Andrew
Right. It probably will a little bit. Is it the truth?
Bobby Lee
Yeah, there's details about an affair. There's all these things that I, you know. And Koreans don't like all their business broadcast. I do that.
Andrew
I do.
Bobby Lee
I think everyone likes to debate more than ever or be contrarians. Everyone loves to battle with the pro. Like a life in battles.
Andrew
But the problem. Life in battle. Yeah, you're right.
George
Don't be doomed.
Andrew
Do you think this is healthy? I do feel like battles.
Bobby Lee
Well, I just. I do feel like I. I have become quite the contrarian all the time. Like when somebody has a point of view in the pod, you know, I'm always like. Wants to be the opposite end and debating things and I don't know.
Andrew
Yeah, but there. But there also is the truth is the truth.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
And when people don't. Can't believe in the truth anymore.
Katherine
That's scary.
Andrew
That's the scary part.
Bobby Lee
It is. It's happening. No one can believe.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
Anything now.
Andrew
And it's like these are a pair of glasses, you know, I mean, very expensive. And did the battle. The battle. Going back to the battle.
Katherine
It's like even being argued that one plus one isn't two. Right.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Katherine
Like that's an argument.
Andrew
Yeah.
Katherine
People are like, no, one plus one is not two.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah, like that. Like the argument of. I mean I. I hate to get political.
George
That's a real argument.
Andrew
That's a very good. That's a real argument.
George
Mathematical argument.
Andrew
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Bobby Lee
Wow.
Andrew
What a movie. What a movie. You know, I really love Bob Odenkirk's Rise. You know, we had David Cross here and from Mr. Xiao and from the creator of John Wick and Nobody. You see nobody?
Katherine
I haven't seen nobody yet.
Andrew
Oh my. There's two of them.
Katherine
Really?
Andrew
Yeah. I love both of them. Yeah. Comes a new movie called Normal. A double barreled shotgun blast of pure mayhem for sheriff Ulysses, played by Bob Odenkirk. A new job as temporary sheriff in a quaint town of Normal, Minnesota was meant to be a welcome respite from recent troubles.
Katherine
But when a botched bank robbery interrupts the piece, a dark secret is exposed and Ulysses discovers that the town is anything but its namesake. And suddenly everyone is trying to shoot the sheriff. And he has to rely on his wits and some crooks if he is to survive the night. And that's all before the Yakuza. The Yakuza show up.
Andrew
Starring Bob Odenkirk. Henry Winkler and Lena Headey.
Jaime
See it only in theaters starting April 17th.
George
What did you guys think of the trailer?
Andrew
I thought the trailer was great. I think that he's on a roll. And Magnolia Pictures is a great production company. I don't think you can go wrong with it. So it looks great.
Katherine
Looks amazing.
Andrew
Yep.
George
Check it out.
Bobby Lee
I had a North Korean dude on my podcast, and he, he was saying,
George
that's not an insult.
Andrew
I've never met in North Korea.
Bobby Lee
That would be a battle line that I would get used against me.
Jaime
No.
Andrew
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
He said that at one plus one in classrooms in North Korea is just bigger one. That's what they said he learned growing up. One plus one is bigger one. Yeah.
Andrew
Wait, wait. One plus one is bigger one larger
Katherine
one where you learn math.
Andrew
Yeah.
Katherine
Changes your whole, like, life trajectory. Holy. Did you not read Malcolm Gladwell and, like, how, like, math is taught in Asia versus how mad math is taught here?
Andrew
Oh, to teach me the Asian math.
Katherine
I, I, I forgot I was raised in Asia, but somehow I've forgotten. But, but I think that it, yeah, it, it, it changes the way, like, society is even built, like, agriculture, like, everything. Right?
MacKenzie
Yeah. It was like how you count in Chinese is a, is automatic math. Like, it's 20 plus 2. It is 22. So you, you know, like, addition a lot easier.
Andrew
Oh, 20 plus two is 22. That is true. Yeah, that is true. That's very interesting. Do Hispanics have a certain way that to do math?
Jaime
Yeah.
Andrew
Tell me.
Jaime
Like, in Mexico, they'll do, like, like the fruits.
George
Oh, instead of numbers, they just use fruits.
Andrew
They use fruits? Yeah. What kind of fruit?
Jaime
Oranges? Papaya?
Andrew
Yeah. Yeah.
Jaime
Pineapple.
Andrew
Pineapple.
Jaime
No. I don't know. Did you make that up? Sound of my ass.
Andrew
Yeah, we knew you made it up.
George
You didn't trick us.
Jaime
Yeah.
Andrew
Yeah. I've never seen a Mexican guy on the ground going, mango here.
Bobby Lee
They use Uno
Andrew
cards.
George
Oh, Skip.
Andrew
Yeah.
Jaime
I don't know. I didn't grow up in Mexico.
Andrew
I, I, we understand that you grew up in Texas.
Bobby Lee
What's the highest math you gone to? I, I think I stopped at pre
Andrew
algebra my senior year in high school. I walked into my math class, and guess who was in my class. My brother. He was a freshman.
Bobby Lee
Wow.
Katherine
You were in geometry then?
Andrew
Yeah.
Katherine
In your senior year?
Andrew
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. And I go, what are you doing here, Steve? My brother goes, what are you doing here? I really do bad at this. You know this.
Bobby Lee
That's hilarious.
Andrew
I was in With. With a bunch of freshmen.
Bobby Lee
Oh, my gosh.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah. I mean, we sat next to each other was a blast. We would draw little figurines.
Bobby Lee
Was he a better student than you?
Andrew
He went to college. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he went.
Katherine
He also said freshman's English was also very strong.
Bobby Lee
Freshmen.
Andrew
It's freshmen's.
George
Yeah, yeah.
Andrew
It's. There's a plural.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Andrew
There's one person that shows up. Hi, I'm a freshman.
Bobby Lee
Okay. Can't wait to.
Andrew
I'm the only one.
Bobby Lee
I can't wait to read your book.
Andrew
Pick me up.
George
It makes sense. It makes sense.
Andrew
Yeah. Yeah.
Bobby Lee
All right.
Andrew
Sophomores.
Katherine
I shouldn't talk. I. My English.
Andrew
I. It's. It's weird that you would correct me on that.
Katherine
It was just funny at the time.
Andrew
Pre algebra. Yeah. Yeah. I think I did better than you.
Bobby Lee
I think you did.
Andrew
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
What was geometry? Is that after pre algebra or.
Katherine
No, wait, did you then. Now geometry is before.
Andrew
Yeah, I went before.
Katherine
Did you then get your gd?
Jaime
No.
Katherine
Oh, you don't have.
Andrew
You have.
Bobby Lee
No. I dropped out of 10th grade and my parents didn't even know. I dropped out for another two years.
Andrew
Wow.
George
How did you fake it?
Bobby Lee
I would wake up, put on my backpack, go to the bus stop, and just go chill at some friend's house and extra two years and just smoke weed. Yeah, yeah.
Jaime
Friend.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah. You know, my younger sister dropped that, too, so we're both.
Andrew
We have two. We have two different Korean kinds of parents then.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, there is.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's two types. I mean, because if I dropped out of high school, you would not see me here right now.
George
You're gone, brother.
Andrew
I'm. I would. They literally would have killed me.
Bobby Lee
Oh, you think so?
Andrew
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
Oh, wow.
Andrew
Yeah.
Jaime
Yeah.
Andrew
I would just be in a mine somewhere in, like, North Korea, like, shoveling. I don't know. Yeah. If I dropped out. Out, there's just no possible. I mean, because I was. I was using drugs. Sure. And they would throw me into rehab as soon as I was done with rehab. The next day, I was back in school.
Bobby Lee
Damn.
Andrew
You know, I mean, there was no, like, you have to graduate.
Bobby Lee
But they didn't care about college. They were just like, high school.
Andrew
At least they just knew college wasn't in the future.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Andrew
Yeah. Yeah. But in terms of high school, they. That was their bottom line.
Bobby Lee
Damn. I didn't think a high school diploma means much to a Korean family. I think. I feel like college is always the focus a little bit. Bit, you know?
Andrew
Yeah. But you didn't even go to that.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, I did. You know what I mean?
Andrew
That's insane.
Bobby Lee
It is insane.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Katherine
You ever just think about, like, getting your GED anyways, just to be like, you know, I.
Jaime
Because you don't need it.
Bobby Lee
You don't need it, really.
Katherine
I mean, you don't. But I'm just saying, like, well, you're
Andrew
not going to need college anymore.
Katherine
No, I know. You're right.
Andrew
I think. I think that's a dead institution.
Katherine
Chat.
Bobby Lee
GPT.
Andrew
Unless you're a genius or like, you need to be.
George
Have. Be a doctor. Go to college.
Andrew
Yeah. Or you're like, so smart, you go to MIT or whatever. I think maybe that will help. I. I don't know much. All right, George, when you look at me, you. You look at. As if, like, I don't know anything.
MacKenzie
What are you talking about?
Andrew
You're like, here he goes again.
Katherine
What are you thinking?
George
Here he goes.
Andrew
Here he goes again.
Bobby Lee
Wait, where did you graduate, George?
Andrew
You know what I mean?
MacKenzie
Which one?
George
Ivy League.
Bobby Lee
Ivy League.
MacKenzie
Michigan undergrad, Columbia University.
Bobby Lee
Wow.
Andrew
Isn't that interesting? You work for me.
George
It was a geometry in high school.
Andrew
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. My pod producers, my podcast producer.
Andrew
Harvard graduate.
Bobby Lee
This 23 year old is a Harvard graduate.
Katherine
You are so right. Like a high school dropout and a college like, dropout. Like a r. The rich. Two richest people in the room.
Jaime
Yeah.
Katherine
I mean, that should tell you something.
Bobby Lee
He has a higher tax bracket than I do.
Andrew
But that's not true.
George
That's definitely true.
Bobby Lee
That's. That's. No, that's definitely true truism.
Andrew
And that's. That's what I'm talking about earlier. Oh, truth.
Bobby Lee
I did love that. My. My pod producers. 23 recent Harvard graduates. Dad. Yeah, I was like, damn. Like, you work for me.
Andrew
Yeah, because I just.
Bobby Lee
Power trip.
Andrew
Like I said, I think the institution is dead. Unless you mean you're a genius.
George
You know, but even geniuses like Mark Zuckerberg dropped out.
MacKenzie
Yeah, the richest people dropped.
Jaime
Yeah, but he stole Facebook, so.
George
Oh, you saw.
Andrew
Here we go now. Time for Jaime's conspiracy. Yeah. Yeah. Give your.
MacKenzie
When you go to Harvard, you get to steal a lot more expensive things.
Bobby Lee
He's saying the access.
MacKenzie
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
He has access to the. The smartest minds.
Jaime
What was the original Facebook? Those two twins?
Andrew
MySpace? No, no,
Katherine
the guy who did Napster was that guy. Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Friendster.
Jaime
Just going to school and steal stuff then.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, I have a lot of, like, stuff in the book about scamming and stealing a 2x.
George
What's the story, what's the story that you.
Bobby Lee
I, this is when I was like 12 years old. I would go into apartment buildings and go to the laundry room and steal clothes out of the washer and dryer while they're washing.
Katherine
You know, this has happened to me. You're the guy.
Bobby Lee
We would call it, we would call it laundry shopping. Yeah. We would do this.
Katherine
Well, okay. Cuz I was, I've had my stolen out of the laundry. I'm like, dude, I'm the poorest person here. Like this was when I was like broke too.
Bobby Lee
That's why we felt like pieces of shit. Because we're not necessarily stealing from the rich. We were just going to like regular places in our neighborhood. This is another thing we would do. We would order pizza.
George
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
To an apartment building and the car would double park in front and they would go to the intercom and then we would sneak into his car and steal the remaining pieces on pizzas on his route. Wow.
Andrew
Is that in the book?
Bobby Lee
Yeah, that's in the book.
Andrew
Oh yeah, yeah. That's good stuff.
Katherine
You never had to steal food, Bobby.
Andrew
No, but what I would do, I've talked about this before, is I would gather a dollar, you know, I mean, by looking at quarters. Oh, quarters, yeah, yeah, yeah. I go in the street, try to find quarters. Yeah, yeah. I mean, and I gotta get a dollar. And once I get a dollar then I can get a BRC at El Pollo Loco.
Katherine
That's so good.
Andrew
Yeah.
Katherine
I used to remember when the self checkout wasn't quite like it had just first been established, like. Yeah, they weren't that great yet. Oh my gosh. I would walk in, my sister and I would walk into Albertsons with already like an Albertsons bag and we would just stock it up with like blocks of cheese.
Andrew
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
And just like charge a banana.
Katherine
Yeah, charge a banana out of there.
Andrew
It doesn't feel that guilty when you're stealing from corporate America too.
Bobby Lee
It doesn't. It does.
Andrew
Stealing from people's private. No, no, no, no. Stealing somebody's hard working, you know what I mean?
Bobby Lee
And I said I was a little bit washing.
Andrew
Right.
Katherine
And I remember what was stolen from me too. Like I had like really spent. Like I had saved so much for my Victoria's Secret panties. And those were the ones that were stolen. And like my padded bra, those were still.
Bobby Lee
I wasn't stealing that.
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Bobby Lee
I was feeling like you sicko dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was feeling like melon wet panties. No. Yeah, yeah, I was. Back in the day it was like FUBU and like street wear clothes that was really popular during that time. And I cared about fat farm jeans and stuff like that.
Katherine
But why didn't you just steal it like I did? So one of the big things when I first Came to America was. I really wanted, like, a FUBU jacket because to me, that symbolized, like, the most American, like, high school. High school thing. And I stole from the mall. I got a FUBU jacket. And as soon as I went home, I looked at the tag and it said made in the Philippines. And I was like, oh, like that realization. I'm like, this isn't what I thought it was. What'd you think it was the most, like, American? I just wanted to be American. Right?
Andrew
Yeah, yeah.
Katherine
And I was like, oh, my auntie probably made this with her tired hands.
Andrew
Yeah, but good, Good quality.
Katherine
But it was fun. Those were such. That was such a fun time to like. It was with all the brands, like, exploring.
Andrew
We talk about the FUBU brand.
Katherine
Yeah.
Andrew
Can I talk about the FUBU brand real quick? Right.
George
To wear it.
Bobby Lee
What?
George
I used to wear it.
Andrew
I have never bought a fubu.
Jaime
Okay.
Andrew
It did not look good. I mean, to me, if I just. Let's be truthful, right? To me, it felt like it was low style.
Bobby Lee
Like low life. Like.
Andrew
No, no, not low life. I didn't say. Did I say low life?
Bobby Lee
No, no, no, no.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah. I didn't like that. I didn't like Von Dutch.
Bobby Lee
Okay. That's making a comeback.
Andrew
Yeah, well, I know it's making. Thanks.
Jaime
You know me. Soda. I said it too.
Andrew
That was very good.
Bobby Lee
I'm surprised you didn't like Von Dutch, because I feel like gold. Golden Goose is like, Von Dutch for your feet.
Katherine
I think so.
Bobby Lee
I think that's how I look at it.
Katherine
What about Ed Hardy?
Andrew
Never did Ed Hardy. No, I don't.
Katherine
Affliction.
Andrew
You know what I did? You know what?
Katherine
Florida.
Andrew
You know what I did do a lot. I don't know why.
Katherine
Diesel.
Andrew
No Fear.
Katherine
Oh, wait, I. I want to defend you with a no Fear stuff.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah.
Katherine
The no Fear stuff was actually like a lot older in the 90s and kind of. It had its cool moment.
Andrew
Okay, good.
Katherine
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Did you do vision street wear?
Andrew
I did some vision.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Andrew
I did some vision. Anything with skates culture, I would do.
Bobby Lee
I could see that.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah. But when it came to hip hop culture, I just never. Because it didn't look good on me. Like, if I wear an Arsenal jersey, I don't look good in them.
Bobby Lee
Well, you weren't also, like a hip hop head, right? So you're more rock?
Andrew
Yeah, I'm more of a rocker. So I had more like, dirty. What are you doing?
Katherine
I think that's just the garbage.
Jaime
Did you ever do Fat Farm?
Katherine
I loved what Is it.
Andrew
What's that?
Bobby Lee
Russell Simmons's clothing brand.
Andrew
Oh, no, no, no.
Bobby Lee
But you did, like, Billabong or something, right? Or like.
Andrew
Yeah, I don't like the way you said Billabong, dude. Yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
Early Stussy. Stussy. Probably Early Stussy.
Andrew
Maybe I would do, like.
Katherine
Early Stussy was really cool.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. I was skating surf culture, but I
Andrew
had, you know, I had a style that I was more vintage clothing.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Andrew
So I would get a cowboy button up. I used to work cowboy hats.
Bobby Lee
I did, too. I was cowboy.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah. I wore cowboy boots.
Bobby Lee
I loved always, like, how, like, Johnny Knoxville dressed.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
I was always like that. He was like a fashion icon to me when I was growing up.
Andrew
Yeah. I was more of a vintage clothing store guy. Okay. I get a cool, funny, cartoony shirt that was ripped up a little bit, but you know what I mean? And I did that vibe, you know? I mean, I never did the brands. As I get older, you know, I feel like.
Jaime
You still do.
Andrew
No, now I do Balenciaga. Balenciaga.
Bobby Lee
Oh, wow. You going Balenciaga and maid worn.
Andrew
So, you know, now that, you know,
Bobby Lee
when you get a hint of, like, designer, do you feel like, okay, these do kind of feel a little better. Do you. Do you get that hint?
Andrew
Well, I'll be honest with you, I. He did it again, by the way.
Katherine
Who?
Andrew
I'm going to tell you the story. He did it again. And I love this man. He's one of my favorite people in the whole world.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
But so when I was in Hawaii, first of all, why is there so many Moncler stores in Hawaii?
Katherine
They don't need to be there.
Andrew
I think it's winter clothing.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. Yeah. That is crazy.
Andrew
Weird. There's a North Face. It's like.
Katherine
That's what it is.
Andrew
Where are we going skiing, guys?
Bobby Lee
Stone Island. For no reason. It's like.
Katherine
Yeah,
Andrew
Canada goose.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah.
Andrew
There's all that up there.
Katherine
It is. It's crazy. And so, like, Waikiki was made and they all repeat. Right. Like, every block is like another Moncler.
Andrew
Why?
Katherine
It was. It was literally made for rich Japanese tourists.
Andrew
Oh, I see.
Katherine
Yeah.
Andrew
And then you don't have Monclers in Japan.
Katherine
I'm sure they do.
Andrew
Yeah. But why would you go to Hawaii?
Katherine
Because it's like, you know, people like to blow money on vacation.
Andrew
Oh, I see.
Katherine
Yeah.
Andrew
Okay. So I went into a Moncler shop, and I haven't bought a Moncler jacket in many, many years. What's so funny?
MacKenzie
You just said, why are there Moncler stores in Hawaii? And that's where you buy them.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
George
You seem, like, very judgmental.
Andrew
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
You're the tourist that's buying up this stuff.
George
Japanese tourists.
Andrew
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
What the hell?
Katherine
I honestly think, like, Waikiki, like, Like, made for you.
Andrew
Yeah.
Katherine
You are the Japanese tourist. They're trying to attract the fit.
Bobby Lee
It actually fits.
Katherine
Like, why is there, like a long.
Andrew
Hold on.
Jaime
Oh, no.
Bobby Lee
Hold on.
George
Okay, so you're reevaluating.
Andrew
I'm gonna. I'm not gonna reevaluate. I know what I'm gonna say. Okay, so it's your fault.
Katherine
Mine specifically?
Andrew
Yes.
Katherine
Why?
Andrew
Because your brand, right, is at the
Katherine
Sephora across the Montclair.
Andrew
Across the Montclair.
George
What brand? Kalila.
Katherine
Ev Ocean Club.
Andrew
Ev Ocean Club. All right, so I. I. This girl that I'm seeing, I go, let's go to the mall. I wanted to check out Sephora to see your installment. It's beautiful.
Katherine
Thank you.
Andrew
Yeah. Yeah. So we went to see the installment before we went the second time when I met you, right. And I looked at it and some of it was, like, sold out. I was so excited. And I walked out of the store and go, there's another Moncler. And then she says, what is Moncler? I go, they just do winter jackets, right?
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
And then we walked in there and I bought one, but it was a thin spring one. Did you see that one I was wearing the other day?
Katherine
No, I didn't.
Andrew
Yeah. Yeah. It's really cute.
Bobby Lee
It's really quality, too.
Andrew
It's quality. And so I went to the Comedy Store wearing it, right? And David Spade had done this before. Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Oh, he did it again, right?
Andrew
So he came up to me, took his finger, goes, oh. And he put his finger around the logo like this.
Bobby Lee
Hello. Yeah.
Andrew
Yeah, Right. It was so strange. And I looked at him like, hi. You know what I mean? And that was the exchange.
Katherine
Wow.
Andrew
Yeah. But it's like, so, you know, sometimes I will do.
Katherine
Do.
Andrew
But I'll tell you what I won't do. Louis Vuitton.
Jaime
Yes.
Bobby Lee
Is that too. Obviously.
Andrew
Why'd that clap?
Bobby Lee
You don't like it?
Jaime
It's overrated.
Andrew
I mean, that's very good. Thank you.
Bobby Lee
What's the most expensive brand you would like? You wear. You have, like, a vice. Zara.
Jaime
Yeah. I'm not.
Bobby Lee
Got a taste for the finer things.
Jaime
I don't have money for it, so.
Bobby Lee
I know, but
Andrew
if you were going to, though.
Jaime
No.
Andrew
Like, if I gave you $10 million and I told you go buy a brand thing.
Jaime
A brand?
Andrew
Yeah.
Jaime
I don't know, I don't look, I don't.
Bobby Lee
Do you have a thing that you're into? Like cars?
Jaime
No.
Bobby Lee
Stuff, no nothing.
George
He likes food.
Jaime
I like food. I like steak.
Andrew
So what food would you, would you
Bobby Lee
drop up, you drop a bag on food?
Jaime
Like a nice wagyu?
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
Oh, very good. Yeah, that's 80 bucks. What else?
Katherine
Branded food.
Andrew
Good branded food.
Bobby Lee
Caviar.
Jaime
$10 million dollar.
Andrew
I don't know, like if we were gonna go, hey, what? Okay, we're at the mall, right? And we're like. And we're at a high end mall and there's a Gucci, Louis Vuitton. There's a, a golden goose. There's a, you know, just a variety of high end fashion.
Jaime
I have to.
Andrew
And I'm like, which one would you go into and what would you buy?
Jaime
Neither shoes.
Andrew
I'll give you an option.
Jaime
I was gonna say Unucleo, but Nunuculo, what is it?
Bobby Lee
Uniqlo. Yeah, that's like nuclear.
Jaime
Nuclear?
Bobby Lee
Yeah, nuclear. No, nuclear. Uniqlo's cool.
Andrew
You walk out with a nuclear bomb, there's a war going on. That's so stupid. Yeah, he's got some sea mines. All the things you would need. You know what I mean? A rocket launcher. So is new.
Bobby Lee
What is Uniqlo? Oh, I know, unique, I know Uniqlo, right? Do you like Uniqlo? I feel like you dress.
Andrew
Is that considered high brand though?
George
No.
Andrew
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying high brand.
Jaime
Okay, I guess Gucci.
Andrew
Okay. And what would you get? We went in there, what would you buy?
Jaime
Slippers.
Andrew
Okay.
Katherine
All right.
Andrew
That's pretty good. Yeah, I have a pair of Gucci slippers. Yeah, A very good buy. Buy very. Goodbye. Go buy them.
Bobby Lee
So go take them to Gucci.
Andrew
You want some Gucci?
Jaime
I'm not gonna wear them.
Andrew
You're never gonna wear them? No, no, that's the thing.
Jaime
People buy stuff like this and they don't wear them. You wear that shirt, what, twice a week maybe.
Andrew
Dude, I've seen this school, I've seen this school where a full blown Gucci suit.
Bobby Lee
I, I mean, you know, I like
Andrew
designers like a suit for a week. Not for a week.
George
You don't have to wear this thing every, every day.
Andrew
This is not a thing where you like, it's not Soviet like you.
Bobby Lee
Does it feel like a waste to buy a extravagant designer piece? Cuz you cannot wear that. No, that was from a Gucci gala. They Said they dressed me and I look like a weird villain in this. I don't know why. I look like I killed vampire.
Andrew
Did you beat James Bond in.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
Did you fight John Wick on that? In that outfit, I'm a villain.
Bobby Lee
That K Drama. I don't like this.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. But it looks good on you.
Katherine
That's a great suit though.
Andrew
That's a great suit.
Katherine
I do like that color a lot.
Andrew
And that's Gucci.
Bobby Lee
Yep. They dressed me, but I didn't like that this suit necessarily.
Andrew
Did they give it to you?
Bobby Lee
No, they had just styled me for. I was. I was plus one for Anderson on this Gucci gala.
Andrew
Yeah. Without Anderson, how many events would you not be asked that question? How many events would you not be.
Bobby Lee
I invited to events. Maybe not at the caliber of his events. Not. Not this. This.
Andrew
I would like the Leo boat, you know.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, that. No, I would not invited to that.
Andrew
Yeah, cuz I was invited.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Maybe a Carnival cruise, but not that. Not that Ritz Carlton.
Andrew
And what's a Carnival cruise?
Bobby Lee
That's like a.
George
The cruise you took.
Andrew
Oh, the one I took.
Bobby Lee
Did you take a good cruise?
Andrew
Like a crazy. I did a stand up on a cruise.
Bobby Lee
All right. How was that?
Andrew
Not Carnival, not Carnival.
Bobby Lee
How was that? It was good.
Andrew
It was good to be around some friends. I think I hung out with Nick Schwartzen the most. Like every day. We'd have lunch and dinner.
Jaime
Nice.
Andrew
Yeah. So that was nice to bond with him, but. Yeah. Would I do another cruise again? Probably not.
Bobby Lee
I can't imagine a cruise being fun like that. Now this one, I feel like I look like a magician.
Andrew
Yeah. What brand is that? That.
Bobby Lee
That was nothing fancy.
Andrew
Okay.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, that suit wasn't that fancy. I try to add a little bandana around my neck to give it a little twist.
Andrew
Yeah.
Katherine
Is that chest hair? Not your tattoo?
Bobby Lee
No. Yeah. It's not nice.
Andrew
But for me it's like when I get a suit, I go to Jimmy Ong's and Jimmy Ong's only, you know, Jimmy Ong. What is it?
Katherine
He's that for the shirt. The guy.
Andrew
The little people.
Katherine
Yeah, little people.
Andrew
Little people. Suit plays.
Bobby Lee
Oh, really? You have to do that? Okay.
Andrew
What do you mean I have to do that?
Bobby Lee
I was like, is that your fit?
Andrew
That's green. We all do it.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Katherine
Oh, really?
George
Cool.
Andrew
Oh, yeah, yeah. He has headshots of all the people. You know? I mean.
MacKenzie
Yeah.
Andrew
Peter Dinklage. Everyone's on there. Yeah, yeah, man. And. And I go in there and hey, puppy.
George
How you doing?
Andrew
You know, he's that guy. You know what I mean?
Bobby Lee
He's the Asian tail.
Andrew
Yeah. And I don't know he. If he has Gucci there.
Bobby Lee
Oh, I see.
Andrew
You know, I mean, I think he makes his own clothes.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. I'd like to see you in, like, a Protestant.
George
You like Bobby dressed as John McCain.
Bobby Lee
Oh, wow.
Andrew
That's not John McCain.
Bobby Lee
He looks like Roy Choi right there.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah.
George
Put the rest high.
Andrew
That's not. That's not John McCain.
George
I just never seen you wear a suit.
Bobby Lee
The Asian also. You used to go to Asian Excellence Awards and stuff really long. Oh, you did. Twice in the back. JCPenney used to throw an Asian Excellence.
Andrew
Yeah.
Katherine
That's the kind of brands you also go to. Paul Smith to get suits sometimes.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
And you'll throw, like, a trucker cap on. I know your style.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah. It's like, not anymore, but. Yeah.
Jaime
Hey, would you ever. Would you ever go to Houston and get a grill?
Bobby Lee
Oh, Johnny dang.
Andrew
No. No, I wouldn't.
Jaime
No.
Katherine
For real.
Andrew
Yeah. I think that you mean if I ever acted again. That's a difficult thing to, like, act.
George
Commit to.
Andrew
Commit to.
Jaime
You mean act?
Bobby Lee
No, no.
Andrew
Oh, no, no. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Okay, stop for a second. What do you think that I mean by act?
Jaime
I didn't say nothing. By acting.
Bobby Lee
No. Okay, let me. Let me correct this. Let me translate here.
Andrew
Can you translate? Translate. Can you transl. So you.
Bobby Lee
You're saying committing like all in the book. It's another battle.
Andrew
A life battle.
Bobby Lee
It's another battle.
Andrew
It's another wisdom book.
Bobby Lee
You're assuming grills are permanent. They're not permanent. You take them on and off.
Andrew
Oh, then I would get a grill.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
Oh, I thought they were, like, laser in.
Bobby Lee
They're not.
Andrew
Okay.
Katherine
Like those and more girls get them. I like the. Like the tooth gems.
Andrew
A tooth gem.
Bobby Lee
Yeah. I could see what.
Andrew
Yeah, you can see me with a tooth gem. Yeah, I've seen stuff and just glitter on my face.
Bobby Lee
I've seen stuff.
Andrew
So I look like Xenu.
Bobby Lee
They're cute, though.
Andrew
You know, Hang out with Tom Cruise. I'm Xenu.
Bobby Lee
There you go.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
You can get, like a fang.
Andrew
Yeah, I don't do that. That's not my thing. That's Fubu for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's Fuba.
Katherine
You should.
Jaime
You should get one when you in Houston.
Bobby Lee
Are you going to Houston? Yeah, I'm going to Houston tomorrow.
Andrew
Yeah, I. Last night I did a show for my Friend Dave. And it was a. So sobriety show.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
And there's this guy named Steve Polk. He's a musician and seen him for 35 years. Yeah, he's from San Diego, but he's a great magician. And he used to be in a band called the Rugburns. And I saw him look up Steve Polk. And this is pretty much when I'm his age, gonna be my style. But, like, I already know my future style based on my look.
Katherine
But you don't know your future body.
Andrew
You need future body for that.
Katherine
I think that, you know, like. Like certain.
Andrew
Like. Yeah, like this, like, look at my stage.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, but you are in the future where you should start styling yourself like that.
Andrew
That kind of look. A hat, long hair.
Katherine
It's like very la.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, but what future are you talking about? This is the time to do it.
Andrew
I'm doing it now.
Bobby Lee
Okay, good. Yeah, you should get like a fancy hat, you know?
Andrew
Yeah, yeah. No, no, no.
Katherine
By the way, it's like such a common LA look, but it's a good, stylish gentleman.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah. Before. No, but you have to. You have to put this into the equation. All right. Is your age. I think that when I'm set. What are you looking at, Alex? You haven't said anything to me today. You've just been staring. I'm looking all around. I'm side eying.
George
I've been quiet listening.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the Is your problem? Today?
MacKenzie
I was looking at the pictures of Steve Pulse.
Andrew
Oh, okay.
Bobby Lee
We have a little monitor. Who's the best dressed comic? Who's the best dressed.
Andrew
Oh, I can tell you right now. I give you the top.
Jaime
John Molin, Tom3.
Andrew
Oh, but that suits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the best dress comic right now is Mark Maron.
Katherine
Oh.
Andrew
Oh, that's actually a good take, dude. Everything he's wearing, Right. Is high end, but looks kind of raggedy. But if you turn it around, it's something.
Katherine
He's. It's just relaxed.
Bobby Lee
He's like silver leg zaddy, right? Like silver.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah. So I think Mark Maron.
Katherine
There's also, like, you know, like, if you were to take a survey of women and he would be number. Really male comic.
Bobby Lee
That's interesting.
Katherine
Yeah.
Andrew
Marc Maron is the hottest male comic.
Katherine
Yes.
Andrew
Yeah.
Katherine
By a long shot.
Andrew
Fashion wise, I would say Cat Williams.
Bobby Lee
Cat Williams. Yeah. He does stand out. Yeah.
Andrew
With. I would. I couldn't wear it. But there's just something sometimes he's like, you know, I mean, got a native vibe going or.
Bobby Lee
Right, right.
Andrew
Sometimes, yeah. Mystical. I love mystical blacks. Those are my favorite ones.
Bobby Lee
Who's the worst? Who's the worst dressed?
George
I mean, that's a mystical black.
Bobby Lee
Oh, that's kind of.
Andrew
That's a mystical black dude.
Bobby Lee
That. That is fire.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah. He's not Illuminati. You know what I mean?
Jaime
You.
Andrew
I mean, just dresses like it.
Bobby Lee
I do. Like when Bobby's dress actually, like, tries, you know what I mean? He. He wore like a vintage shirt, denim jacket, and some like, non jogger pants.
Katherine
Non jogger.
Bobby Lee
Like, when he's wearing joggers, I'm like, he's not.
Katherine
You know, that's his blind spot. You're so right. That's his blind spot lately is the joggers.
Bobby Lee
I'm not a fan of the joggers.
Andrew
What's a jogger?
Katherine
It's tapered.
Bobby Lee
It's like tapered sweatpants.
George
You know, I don't mind this.
Andrew
Zoom in.
George
That's like, go.
Katherine
That's different though.
Bobby Lee
Those are not joggers, but they're jogger esque. But you know what I mean, When. Oh, no, they're not joggers, but you know when they're like the sweat elastics.
Andrew
You mean, what's the bottom of it?
Bobby Lee
Yeah, what he's wearing right now.
Katherine
Let me see.
Bobby Lee
No, no, These aren't even joggers.
MacKenzie
Okay.
Andrew
Does he wear.
Katherine
Those aren't joggers. Those are straight legs.
Bobby Lee
You know, on the bottom when there's like that. That collar almost like around your ankle,
Katherine
it's like, it looks cheap.
Andrew
Okay, I'm gonna say this right now. Okay. That I realize that. So I have been wearing. I haven't been wearing joggers in a while.
Katherine
You've been wearing straight.
Andrew
I've been going straight and almost poofy out.
Bobby Lee
Yes.
Andrew
I want.
Bobby Lee
I want you to go.
Andrew
I have been doing that.
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Andrew
Right. So one. One self reflects.
Katherine
Yeah.
Andrew
One grows and one evolves.
Katherine
I think your final blind spot is the golden goose.
Jaime
Wow.
Bobby Lee
Wow.
Andrew
It's a blind spot.
George
What do you think is a good shoe?
Katherine
That's his. Because I think Bobby has impeccable style. And when I look at his closet, I'm like, oh, my God. He takes risks. It's so cool. Like.
Andrew
Yeah.
Katherine
You're such a fashion icon. The golden goose is like, drive me mad because I feel as though, like, it's a very, like, Millennial girl brand. But maybe you're like, I'm fam. No, it's not your fam. Maybe you are subverting something here by, like, you know, like being a golden goose, Stan, because you do wear them. Well, I think maybe I'm just like swayed by the whole, like, you know, millennial woman love for it, you know,
Bobby Lee
style kind of like, like, like a Catherine Blandford kind of.
Andrew
She's a good style.
Bobby Lee
She has kind of.
Andrew
She's a great. I like that style. She's like the girl that I'm seeing has that style.
Bobby Lee
Oh, really?
Andrew
Yeah. Of Mitch Match clothing. You know what I mean? Camo pants. Yeah.
Bobby Lee
It's like a shirt that doesn't, but somehow it works.
Andrew
It works. It's, you know what I call it? Eastern European clothing.
Katherine
But also they're just hot chicks.
Bobby Lee
They are. They are hot.
Katherine
So it's like anything looks good. Like the girl you're seeing, you could put anything on her. She's tall, she's beautiful. Like, anything would look good.
Bobby Lee
That's a good point.
Andrew
Yeah.
Katherine
Catherine Blandford. Same thing. Like, they're English.
Bobby Lee
That help a lot?
Katherine
It helps a lot.
Andrew
Oh, does it help a lot?
Katherine
Yeah.
Andrew
Okay.
Bobby Lee
It's like Adam Sandler, you know, he's. He's Adam Sandler. So you could wear anything.
Andrew
Yeah, but no, like, judge his style.
Bobby Lee
Well, people, like, still love his style, you know.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's an interesting style. It is, yeah. I'd like to talk about worst dressed comedians, but let's go best. Here's another one. And you may like them or not. I love them. But Dean Delray, you said worse. No, best.
Bobby Lee
I got to see the style.
Katherine
There's a lot of maid worn. Right. And like Japanese salvage.
Andrew
Yeah. So. So I learned from Kevin Christie and Dean Del Rey.
Katherine
Kevin Christie dress as well.
Andrew
Yeah, about, you know, I mean, about raw denim. I learned from Kem Christie.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, you.
Andrew
I mean, so you. I mean, you learn. Let's go average.
Jaime
I like average Brad Williams. He's pretty good.
Andrew
That's. Doesn't have a lot of options.
Bobby Lee
Average. Average.
Andrew
I mean, he's got to go to Kids Gap. Think about what he has to do. He has to go to. In the Kids Gap. Yeah, right. But he can't wear the, like, you know, I mean, the minioni, you know, in pajama. So he has to go like, he has to go to certain sections of. You know what I mean? And then he has to have a lot of things tailored to him. Yeah, right. So that's a terrible. I love him, but for what he's given. And I could say that about myself. If anyone doesn't know, Brad Williams is a dwarf, a little person and. But I, I also look at my own body and go, what? What? You know, I mean, I would love to have. Look great in a black suit and look like Daniel Day Lewis, but it should be. I just don't have a thin, white, tall body for that type of.
Bobby Lee
It's. It's. It's less fabric. It should be cheaper.
Andrew
It's not cheaper.
Bobby Lee
It's not.
Katherine
Children's clothing are the most expensive things you'll ever buy.
Bobby Lee
I remember getting Jordan. Like, Jordans. If you got the kid size, it was, like, cheaper than the adult size.
Katherine
Really?
Andrew
Really.
Katherine
The brand. Oh, my God. If. When you. When you have a kid. When you have a kid, you guys are gonna freak out because there's so many great kids brands like Mini Rodini and, like, one shirt's like 200 bucks. But then I buy it. I buy it. It's so exciting because there's so many cooler options for kids.
Andrew
Yeah. I'm never gonna have kids. Let's start with that.
Bobby Lee
Can't wait till it happens.
Andrew
Yeah. I don't think you'll ever have kids.
Bobby Lee
Who knows?
Andrew
I do.
Bobby Lee
If I got a girl pregnant, I'd just be like. I'd be like, you know what? I might roll with.
Andrew
You know. You know what? You're right.
Katherine
Upsetting me.
Andrew
Why?
Katherine
Because I want you guys to not just roll with it.
Bobby Lee
No, no, no, no, no. That's not. I want you.
Andrew
What do we roll with it? What do you mean?
Katherine
Supportive partner through pregnancy, through postpartum. I know that you guys are good guys. I don't want you to just roll with it. That's all. That's my take.
Andrew
Roll with it means that you're just
Katherine
gonna be like, okay, cool, let's keep it.
Andrew
I'm not like. You know what I mean? Like, no, I'm in it.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, we're in it. That's what I mean.
Andrew
That's what I mean by rolling in it. Rolling it. I'm rolling in the baby.
Bobby Lee
Not panic about it and not panic about it and be like, we gotta do something about this. Like, not that.
Andrew
I mean, like, okay, I've learned things from you. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'll call you a lot.
Katherine
Yes, Call me a lot.
Andrew
Yeah, I'll go be like, there's no titty milk coming out. And then you go give it to the wife. Give it to. And I'm like, oh, all right, all right. Because it's all bruised up. You know? I mean, there's things I would call. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
But b. Yeah, I Get it? I get it. It sounded like just a small thing.
Andrew
I also think. I also think that, like, sleeping with the baby in the bed is what I would do.
Katherine
I know, but you would have to be super safe about it.
Andrew
Yeah, but I don't. I sleep one style and you.
Katherine
I know, but you know that it's a hazard if one of the parents is a smoker.
Andrew
Yeah.
Katherine
Like, it's. It increases your chances for sudden infant death syndrome. So, like, if you're a smoker, you cannot have the baby in bed.
Andrew
Sorry, I've been. I haven't smoked that cigarette over a month.
Bobby Lee
Exude.
Katherine
I don't know what it is specifically, but that is one of the risk factors for sids. So you're gonna be. I just gotta be around for either of your babies. K?
Andrew
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. George, I. I don't want to start a fight with you. Yeah, okay. Why'd you look at elf.
George
Are you about to start a fight? Yeah.
Andrew
Yeah. And also check out this book.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah. All the battles in your life.
Andrew
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
Life and battles.
Andrew
Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to start a fight with you. Yeah, but you have first baby syndrome.
Katherine
Yeah, of course. Why wouldn't I have my first baby?
Bobby Lee
What's that mean? What's first baby?
Andrew
Because the second baby, she's not going to be the way she is now.
Katherine
Yeah. You're more relaxed because everything is not so new anymore. You, you're like, oh, I've done this. I'm not as like.
Andrew
But also, I think the rules that you're applying right now will loosen.
Katherine
I don't think so. I don't think so. I think that safety, like when you get. You grab your baby. You'll know what I mean when you meet your baby for the first time. And George, you can attest to this. You do breathing checks. That baby is so small, you're like, is it breathing? Is it breathing? Is it breathing? Like the first.
MacKenzie
Well, that's the worst part is because you're so sleep deprived, like for the first month, but you like wake up and like, yeah, I need to check if it's breathing. And then you're like, doesn't it? What am I gonna do if it does? Yeah, what am I gonna do? Then I go back to sleep and
Andrew
then feel completely become apathetic.
Katherine
So they become apnea. Sometimes they hold their breath. They have like erratic breath breathing. Newborn breathing is such a mind. So it scares you. So, like, I see what you're saying. It's like a two, three year old. Like, you do Loosen up.
Bobby Lee
They're just so fragile.
Katherine
First get them. And they're like this newly, like, perfectly baked thing.
Bobby Lee
My sister kept trying to like get me to hold the baby and I was so scared to hold it because it's so fragile. And I'm like, no, I don't need to do that. I don't want to drop it.
Katherine
Yeah. Even I was a mom and I was scared to drop my own baby. So it's like.
Andrew
It's like holding a 16th century Chinese vase.
Katherine
Yes.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
Like, yeah.
Andrew
And I dropped those all the time. Three in my life.
Bobby Lee
A Faberge.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah. Like, oh, yeah. Faberge egg. Yeah. When you hold a Faberge egg, you know, because how many are there in the world?
Katherine
I mean, I think there are enough.
Andrew
They're not enough.
Katherine
I don't think they're like.
Andrew
I think they're under 100.
Katherine
They're under really under 100. Faberge.
Andrew
You know how much a fabric egg costs?
Katherine
I do.
Andrew
How much, how much do you think a fabric.
George
61 to 69.
Jaime
9.
Katherine
Oh, whoa. You're right.
Andrew
Not only that, that's crazy. Guess how much one would be.
Katherine
I think in the high millions.
Andrew
Like, just give me a number.
Katherine
Like 150 million to a half a million.
Andrew
How much is that?
Bobby Lee
That sounds too much.
George
In 2014, a man found a 30 million dollar Imperial. A flea market.
Andrew
Okay, so you're at a flea market. At a flea market. You overshot. Yeah, that's still pretty expensive. Yeah, that's $30 million.
Katherine
Crazy.
Andrew
That's the cheapest one, I think.
George
Probably.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
What's the most expensive thing?
Andrew
Well, you.
Jaime
What?
Bobby Lee
What's the most expensive thing you own?
Andrew
What, this house?
Bobby Lee
Okay.
Katherine
House not included. Of course it's going to be your house.
Bobby Lee
You have collectibles. You have an expensive collectible.
Katherine
He hasn't upraised them in a while. I don't think he knows. I bet you anything you have hidden treasures here.
Andrew
Oh, I have many hidden treasures. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For people to find when I'm dead. And you'll be surprised. I have one for you.
Bobby Lee
You got a Mugwe?
Andrew
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
George
So expensive.
Andrew
Okay, which one? That's 30 million words.
George
The winter egg.
Andrew
10 million. They're less than I thought they were going to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but they're very delicate.
George
It's expensive though.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah. Would you buy one?
Jaime
No.
Andrew
Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. So I would hold a baby. Like a Faberge egg.
Katherine
Yes.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah.
Bobby Lee
Would you adopt or no?
Katherine
Yes.
Jaime
No, no.
Bobby Lee
Cuz you could skip the baby phase. And go right to like a Russian
Andrew
five year old world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Or it has its own knife.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
There's no way.
Bobby Lee
Low maintenance.
Andrew
Yeah. Or what?
Jaime
Or you can have a baby and then just, you know, you know, ditch the family for like five, six years and then come back that way.
Andrew
That's a good plan.
Jaime
That way you can skip the five, six years.
Andrew
The best years of your. Their lives. That's. Wow, that's a great date. The best years of their lives.
Jaime
Cuz it's still your own blood, but it's not adopted.
Andrew
When they become nightmares is when you come back again. Yeah. Okay. The very good thinking. 10 we. You should write a book. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jaime
And I. The first page would be to all the women who got me battle ready.
Bobby Lee
That's. That's the. That's my dedication.
George
Memorize that though.
Bobby Lee
That's right. Yeah. Do you memorize that? You're waiting for that?
Andrew
Memorize that.
Jaime
Yeah. He right.
Bobby Lee
It's my family photo right there, you know.
Andrew
That's amazing.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
Which one? Which one is you? I can't tell.
Bobby Lee
I'm right here.
Andrew
Okay.
Katherine
What did your mom think of the book?
Bobby Lee
I mean, she didn't read it because she. She doesn't really speak English like that, you know, but she, she. Oh, like that. I wrote one.
Katherine
But you did like interview her for a lot of like the content of the book.
Bobby Lee
I did. She hasn't gone through it, but I interviewed her because she has that crazy journey through the Mexican border, like illegally carrying two babies, so. With coyotes and stuff. So she gave me the details. Details of that.
Andrew
Can I show you the poster of my. Of what my Hulu spouse is going to look like?
Bobby Lee
I want to see it.
Andrew
Just a poster and see if you think you like it or not.
George
Okay.
Andrew
Ready and go.
Bobby Lee
I like it. I like it.
George
We'll blur it out. Can I see?
Bobby Lee
Is it too late for notes though?
Katherine
No, no, it's not.
Andrew
It kind of is.
Bobby Lee
Okay. Okay then I'm not gonna go into it.
Jaime
I like it.
George
Here's the thing. People will click on that.
Bobby Lee
It's very cool.
Katherine
Very cute.
Bobby Lee
It's very kawaii.
Katherine
Here's what I think. Like, I just think that there are so many iconic photographs of you.
Andrew
I'm gonna make a call between these two pods and I'm gonna make a call and. What do you think of this, Alex? I wear the same thing I wore for the special. And we go to a white backdrop and we create our own assets.
Katherine
1000% agree.
Bobby Lee
If you Have a chance to switch it. I think if you have time, you should try to do something about it. Cause that's what I did with my book. I had an option and I switched it earlier. Hold on, hold on. You know what?
Andrew
Wait, so this is what you chose? Yeah, yeah. It's a good cover. I understand this. So this is some. You're. You're showing people like, ah, man, I've
Bobby Lee
been through so many battles.
Andrew
Yeah, right.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
And your inside scars are on your face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, but that's not the look.
Bobby Lee
That's not the look I have.
Andrew
Why this look?
Bobby Lee
My favorite phone photos.
Andrew
You take two photos. I'll take the second one.
Bobby Lee
My favorite photos of you are from Jen Rosen. Rosen.
Katherine
Rosenstein.
Bobby Lee
Rosenstein.
Andrew
She's the best.
Katherine
I think she's so good.
Bobby Lee
Those are my best. Those are my favorite photos of you.
Andrew
Yeah, she's the best.
Bobby Lee
That's what I'm saying.
Katherine
Okay, so that was my big note. Was that, like. I think that there are many other more iconic photos you can use for your center photo, because it's cute, but it's not like iconically you. There's so many expressions that you do that are more Bobby Lee than that.
Bobby Lee
The photo should be quality of what you use for your profile photos on Raya. Like, that should be the. The level.
Katherine
Yes.
Andrew
I got rid of the app, but you, you know.
Bobby Lee
You know, like the ones you.
George
Spit Life in Battles.
Andrew
Yeah. Split. Anything else you want to plug?
Bobby Lee
No. Guys, Spit A Life in Battles is in bookstores everywhere. You can also cop it on Amazon or Barnes and Nobles dot com. You know, it's not just like rap heady stuff. There's a lot of great things in here about family, Asian American history, which Bobby's involved in, you know, in like Los Angeles history, hip hop history.
George
Why is it called spit for the audience?
Sponsor Voice
Spit.
Bobby Lee
I just feel like it's like a. A disrespectful act, but earned me respect by spitting. Spitting lyrics. Spitting. You know what I mean? Yeah. Say something, Bobby. Say something.
Andrew
Bobby's dumb.
George
Don't be phased.
Bobby Lee
I'm phased. I'm phased. I am literally phased. Bobby, are you gonna read my book? Yeah.
Andrew
Audiobook it if Jaime is the narrator.
Bobby Lee
No, no, I narrated it.
Andrew
Oh, you did?
Bobby Lee
I gotta.
Andrew
I like your voice. I want to say. Let me ask you a real question.
Bobby Lee
Sure.
Andrew
Percentage wise, are you more of a. Give me that percentage here. Are you more of an actor, comedian, or hip hop artist?
Bobby Lee
I would say hip hop artist is my main.
Andrew
So what's the Part of the pie. Out of 100, what is the percentage?
Bobby Lee
I would say 60%.
Andrew
Okay. Actor.
Bobby Lee
Right. I would. I would say like 25.
Andrew
So what do we got, 15. 15 left.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
Andrew
So you're 15. Comedian and.
Bobby Lee
Well, writer and comedian.
Andrew
Oh, so that's. Oh, yeah.
Bobby Lee
I just wrote Beef Season 2 is coming out.
Andrew
All right, so what. Yeah, what? Beef. What percentage is writer?
Bobby Lee
A small percentage.
Andrew
What's percentage is 1.
Bobby Lee
This is not helping. Leading up to my book.
Andrew
What percentage is writer?
Bobby Lee
Maybe. I mean, writing is everything I do as a hip hop artist. I also write.
Andrew
I know, but just it just writing
Bobby Lee
as its own final percentage of the pie.
Andrew
Yeah.
Bobby Lee
The remainder.
Andrew
But then as a comic. What are you.
Bobby Lee
Isn't Comic Con all encapsulating everything? Like as a writer and performer and everything. You know, that's true. You know what I mean?
Andrew
And that's what. That's the answer I wanted.
Bobby Lee
Yeah.
George
A long winded.
Andrew
A long winded answer.
Bobby Lee
Are you. Please read it. Bobby, can you read it?
Andrew
I'm gonna read it.
Bobby Lee
What's the last book you read?
Andrew
The Idiot by Doski.
MacKenzie
Okay.
Katherine
Jesus Christ.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Yeah. What's so funny? And the Sun Also Rises by Hemingway. Those are the last two books I read.
Bobby Lee
Do you read?
Jaime
No.
Bobby Lee
That's an easy read.
Jaime
Yeah, yeah.
Andrew
You've never read a book.
George
There's pictures in there.
Jaime
There's pictures in here. Let me show you.
Bobby Lee
There are pictures. There's a little comic strip.
Andrew
Just get them a coloring book. Okay.
Bobby Lee
Yeah, yeah, the pictures are. Yeah, color. You can color in the. Into the pictures.
Andrew
Yeah, yeah.
Jaime
They're in here somewhere. I saw them. Yeah, yeah, I can tell.
Andrew
Yeah. Anyway, give John John a round of applause.
Katherine
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Episode Title: Dumbfoundead & The Asian Stereotype
Host: Bobby Lee & Khalyla
Release Date: April 15, 2026
Podcast: TigerBelly (All Things Comedy Network)
This episode features rapper, battle MC, author, and all-around creative Johnny “Dumbfoundead” Park. The gang dives into Asian stereotypes, growing up Asian American, the art (and discomfort) of roasting, and the launch of Dumbfoundead’s new book Spit: A Life in Battles. The conversation mixes humor, real talk, and personal stories as they unpack what it means to be “battle ready” in comedy, rap, and life.
On Stereotypes:
“Asians all look alike. So that was the idea that, like, I’m setting it up for my experience, obviously in battles and things I’ve gotten hit with commonly.”
— Bobby Lee [09:38]
On Roasting:
“A form of insult comedy where a specific person is subjected to jokes, ridicule, and playful mockery, often with an underlying tone of affection or intended humor.”
— Bobby Lee [12:02]
On Breaking the Rules First:
“It’s like the Eminem 8 Mile effect where he went on stage and is like, yeah, I am trailer trash. I am white.”
— Bobby Lee [10:26]
On Self-Reflection and Fashion:
“One self reflects, one grows and one evolves.”
— Andrew [70:44]
On Family & Writing Truth:
“There’s details about an affair. There’s all these things that I, you know ... Koreans don’t like all their business broadcast. I do that.”
— Bobby Lee [39:04]
On “Truth” in Today’s World:
“There also is the truth is the truth. And when people can’t believe in the truth anymore, that’s the scary part.”
— Andrew [39:48]
| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------| | 04:02 | Reading "Roasting" excerpt from Dumbfoundead's book | | 08:10 | Listing and unpacking Asian stereotypes | | 10:26 | The “Eminem 8 Mile” defense mechanism | | 12:02 | Bobby Lee’s definition of a roast | | 14:27 | Discomfort with roast culture | | 27:01 | “Brother” as universal—not just racial | | 32:43 | Debunking the “Asian penis size” myth with real data | | 37:42 | Bobby on writing about his father, tough family truths | | 39:32 | Contrarian culture and the disintegration of “truth” | | 49:46 | "Laundry shopping" – stealing as broke kids | | 54:12 | Katherine’s “FUBU jacket” immigrant experience | | 58:49 | “Waikiki was made for Japanese tourists” | | 70:44 | Andrew's wardrobe evolution and “blind spots” | | 76:09 | Parenting and “first baby syndrome” anxieties | | 84:03 | Dumbfoundead breaks down his identity “pie chart” |
Throughout, the tone is candid, irreverent, playful but honest—reflective of Bobby Lee’s signature all-over-the-place but heartfelt hosting. The episode moves quickly between bit-driven comedy, personal vulnerability, creative debates, group nostalgia, and sharp cultural insights.
Final Rec:
If you’re interested in art, identity, or just want to hear Asian American comedians at their most honest, this episode is required listening—a layered mix of textbook TigerBelly chaos and cultural commentary.