Tim Heidecker Awesome InfoWars, Great Job!

Summary

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TigerBelly Podcast: "Tim Heidecker Awesome InfoWars, Great Job!"

Host: Bobby Lee (TigerBelly)
Guest: Tim Heidecker
Release Date: May 6, 2026
Episode Overview:
Comedian Tim Heidecker joins Bobby Lee and the TigerBelly crew (including Khalyla and other recurring hosts and guests) for a playful, freewheeling conversation. The episode bounces between absurdist bits, genuine industry talk, irreverent comedy, and heart-to-heart confessions about aging, creativity, and mortality. Heidecker discusses his satirical take on InfoWars, shares experiences in independent comedy production, and dives into music geekery, podcasting, and pranking. The tone is manic, silly, and authentic to TigerBelly, blending comedy with real moments and cultural observations.

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1. Opening: Prayers, Religious Upbringings, and Animal Behavior

[00:58–07:56]

• Introduction: Bobby Lee opens by confessing nerves about meeting Tim, recalling seeing him in a restaurant during the "Tim & Eric" show era.
• Religiosity & Performative Prayer:
  • A mock-serious "prayer circle" ensues, with everyone asked to say a verse or prayer, veering quickly into comedy.
  • Tim Heidecker (01:28): "I could sing one of my favorite songs from church" ("I, the Lord of Sea and Sky") — gets laughs as no one else knows it.
  • Bobby gives thanks for his mom’s health, a cancer-free colonoscopy, and the ocean's life: "Thank you for the Greenland shark that lives for, like, 500 years." (04:56)
  • Prayers include shout-outs to empanadas, Walmart, and Tim himself.
• Mock Confusion about Prayer vs Hymn: Banter about what constitutes a real prayer ("a hymn is a hymn!").

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2. Tim Heidecker on Creative Direction, Comedy Industry, and Streaming

[07:56–13:36]

• Congratulations on InfoWars: Bobby congratulates Tim on his creative director role for a new satirical InfoWars project.
• Spoof Details: Tim humorously declares their goal is to "acquire Redfin" and "compete with Zillow."
  • Tim: "We’re gonna goof around on Alex for a while, then we're gonna just try to turn [it] into a comedy streaming site..." (08:43)
• State of Comedy TV:
  • Riffing on the decline of Comedy Central ("it's The Office reruns"), lack of experimental platforms, and nostalgia for Adult Swim.
  • Tim: "With corporations involved, there's notes...you can't do that. It stifles comedy in a certain way." (09:41)
• Independent Spirit: Tim hopes to channel Adult Swim’s creative environment, supporting experimental projects as a mentor.

Memorable Moment

• Bobby, on being cast as Kim Jong Un:
  "I've always been on the short list for everything, but I'm always fifth. Four people have to say no for me to get it." (10:41)
• They joke about the casting hierarchy and Bobby’s past playing Kim Jong Il.

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3. Showbiz, TV Projects, and Showbiz Rejects

[13:36–17:41]

• Underground Vegas Bunker: Random tangent around underground faux-city bunkers in Vegas—another riff about containment and creating a “Truman Show” world.
• Why Did "Tim & Eric" End? (15:36)
  • Tim gives a candid breakdown: The show naturally ran its course, followed by "Billion Dollar Movie," "Bedtime Stories," and "Beef House."
  • Industry realities and indie pivots: "Life happens," and their careers diverged with plans for future work together.
• Industry Frustrations: Reinforces the “short list, never first” feeling in entertainment, using Kim Jong Un casting as a metaphor.

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4. On Cinema, HI Network, and DIY Comedy

[26:23–31:19]

• On Cinema at the Cinema: Tim describes his long-running mock-review/soap opera show with Greg Turkington (Neil Hamburger), from Adult Swim to their own subscription service, HEI Network.
  • "It's a soap opera, a saga of two characters who hate each other...like Siskel and Ebert." (29:23)
  • His character is tried for murder in a real-time trial arc—"I ran a music festival and handed out vape pens that were poisonous accidentally." (30:39)
• DIY and Fan-Supported Projects: Bobby and Tim discuss the new era of producing their own shows for YouTube, platforms, and paywalls.
  • "Hopefully with InfoWars we can provide some guidance there, but, you know, for whoever needs it..." (31:31)

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5. Bobby's Job Interview, Silliness, and Pranks

[31:40–38:18]

• Playful Job Interview: Bobby pitches himself as a correspondent for Tim’s new project, listing qualifications—punctuality, politeness, ability to take notes, being “properly medicated” (Lexapro), sobriety, and a clean bill of colon health.
  • Bobby: "I would do it for free. That's, like, literally, I don't need it. So it's like, I want to do it because I'm a fan and I believe in it." (39:25)
  • Tim, in business-speak: "Let’s circle back..." and dodges making commitments.
• Comedy Around Past Gigs:
  • Bobby discusses competing with a monkey for audience affection on "Animal Practice":
    • "I tested as good as the monkey." (37:19)
    • On casting: "Your monkey level is...I think I have star quality." (38:29)
• Circle Back & Table It: Running gags about showbiz jargon and expectation-management.

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6. Heartfelt Reflections: Mortality, Aging, and AI

[49:15–56:56]

• Mortality and Age:
  • Tim and Bobby reflect on turning 50 and 54 respectively—dawning awareness of mortality:
    • "It just hits you at 50: This is actually gonna happen." — Tim (49:27)
    • Bobby: "That's why I got a colonoscopy and quit smoking." (50:02)
• Technology & AI:
  • Speculation about AI’s impact on health, creativity, and jobs.
  • Tim: "I felt like a couple years ago, there was this real utopian view of the AI thing...but feels like maybe it’s just a bunch of tech guys trying to whip up a lot of investment." (50:58)
  • Bobby, less optimistic, finds AI "lying" in chat responses and unreliable as a source of truth.
• Real World Use Cases: Tim finds usefulness for transcription, synopses, and meeting notes in production and writing.
• Technology Disruptions: Discussion of automation, robot deliveries, driverless cars, and the fleeting economics of Uber/Lyft versus cabs.

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7. Musical Geekery & The Beatles vs. Linkin Park Debate

[59:01–66:41]

• Music Taste:
  • Tim’s favorite: "Like, Beatles, Stones, Pink Floyd. That's my favorite." (59:49)
  • Discusses attending recent David Byrne and Nick Cave concerts.
• Contentious Album Sales:
  • Debate over Linkin Park's "Hybrid Theory" allegedly outselling The Beatles' "White Album."
    • Tim: "There's no way to have a...there's no rigid aestheticism about anything. But I would not agree with that." (60:24)
    • Bobby and crew counter Spotify-era stats with context from the physical media era.
• Why the Beatles Mattered:
  • Tim gets passionate about the early Beatles’ magic:
    • "Their songwriting is unbelievable...They are as good as they're ever gonna be." (63:13)
• Art Garfunkel, Simon & Garfunkel, and Odd Live Shows:
  • Bobby reminisces on music childhood memories; Tim raves about Art Garfunkel as a performer and character.
  • Both wax nostalgic and comically dissect their favorite (and strangest) concerts.

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8. Finale: Meta-Reflection, Stand-Up, and Friendship

[69:00–71:56]

• Did Tim Have Fun?: Bobby earnestly asks if Tim enjoyed the episode.
  • Tim: "I was a little...I saw this on my schedule...very happy that I didn't [cancel]...very happy." (69:40)
• Final Plugs: Tim plugs InfoWars, Office Hours, and the High Network.
• Encore Q&A:
  • Clarifies the "Joe Rogan podcast" — Tim never appeared, he did a parody (hour and a half looped for comedic effect): "My joke was just like, I never know when that show starts and ends...no one gets anywhere and there's no...no point." (70:40)
  • Discusses his stand-up special's reception—polarizing, intentionally confrontational, and subversive.
• Mutual Admiration: Bobby: "As a stand-up, I understand what you do...I'm such a big fan of yours." (71:43)
• Future Collaboration: Both express interest in guesting on one another’s podcasts.

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Notable Quotes

• Tim Heidecker (on creative freedom):
  "Hopefully with InfoWars we can provide some guidance there, but, you know, for whoever needs guidance..." (31:31)

• Bobby Lee (on being fifth in line):
  “I’ve always been on the short list for everything, but I’m always fifth. Four people have to say no for me to get it.” (10:41)

• Tim Heidecker (on the Beatles’ peak):
  "This is as tight as they...this is just...you listen to that album, it's four guys in one room together and there's a person pressing record...as good as they're ever gonna be." (64:06)

• Bobby Lee (on jobs and passion):
  “I would do it for free. That’s, like, literally, I don’t need it. So it’s like, I want to do it because I’m a fan and I believe in it.” (39:25)

• Tim, satirizing the industry:
  “Let’s circle back...I wield so much power, I have to be careful.” (33:19–33:22)

• Tim (on podcasting culture):
  "I would love a podcast where guys talk about AI...and don’t really know much about it." (50:34)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:58–07:56: Opening prayers, church songs, animal behavior, and friendship
• 07:56–13:36: Tim’s InfoWars satire, state of comedy TV, nostalgia for Adult Swim
• 15:36–17:41: Why “Tim & Eric” ended, lessons from indie TV
• 26:23–31:19: Discussion of “On Cinema,” soap-operatic comedy, moving to independent networks
• 31:40–39:25: Bobby pitches himself as an on-air correspondent, monkeys & "Animal Practice," job interview bit
• 49:15–56:56: Aging, mortality, and AI anxieties
• 59:01–66:41: Beatles vs Linkin Park, early Beatles appreciation, Art Garfunkel, Lou Reed, music nostalgia
• 69:00–71:56: Meta-reflection, mutual admiration, final plugs

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Overall Vibe & Takeaways

• The humor is irreverent, self-aware, and full of industry in-jokes—true to the TigerBelly format.
• Beneath the comedic surface, there’s a thread of vulnerability—about aging, creative legacy, mortality, and the shifting landscape of comedy.
• Both Bobby and Tim show mutual respect and genuine fandom for each other, with playful jibes about their places in entertainment.
• The episode jumps playfully between fictional scenarios, personal anecdotes, serious music nerd-out, and philosophical dialogue.

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For fans of alternative comedy, industry war stories, and the meta-play of modern podcasting, this episode is a uniquely funny and revealing hangout with two comic originals.

Transcript

[Bobby Lee]

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[Podcast Host 1]

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[Tim Heidecker]

vacation rental that's loved for all the right reasons.

[Guest 1]

Uh, I love my VRBO for the location.

[Podcast Host 1]

Good reason.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, and for the pool.

[Bobby Lee]

Cause pools are cool.

[Podcast Host 1]

I feel the love book of vrbo,

[Bobby Lee]

that's loved by guests. If you know you vrbo, I'm on my finally tour and come check me out at your nearest city. I have a graphic novel out called Bobby Lee deadweight. It's on gudner.com, also available on Amazon. So what I like to say up front is maybe we should start with a prayer.

[Tim Heidecker]

I love that.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And secondly, I want to open up by saying that I saw you at a restaurant once. This is probably late, maybe 2010.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

The height of the Tim. Tim and Eric show. And I was too nervous to say anything.

[Tim Heidecker]

Really.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

What restaurant?

[Bobby Lee]

It was somewhere in Los Feliz in that area, you know me. Where all the cool people. And he was so cool.

[Tim Heidecker]

Is it just me?

[Bobby Lee]

I think you were with Eric as well.

[Podcast Host 3]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Back when we had. We would eat together.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

We didn't know anybody else.

[Bobby Lee]

As friends, too? As friends too.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And. But yeah, I've been a fan and I. You were in Bridesmaids?

[Tim Heidecker]

Sure.

[Podcast Host 1]

He's gonna go do all your credits.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah, no, I'm gonna do all of them.

[Bobby Lee]

I'm not gonna do all of them. But the last one, the latest one is that Office Hours with Tim Heidecker. You know what I mean? And where can you see that?

[Tim Heidecker]

YouTube and everywhere. Wherever your show is. Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

What do you mean?

[Tim Heidecker]

Patreon.com officehourslive Hey, I know that.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

We have a lot of things in common then.

[Tim Heidecker]

I'm sure we're both interested in humor.

[Podcast Host 1]

What kind of foods do you guys eat?

[Bobby Lee]

No, I think we should start off with a fucking prayer.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay, let's do it.

[Bobby Lee]

I think everyone should do a verse.

[Podcast Host 3]

You know what I mean?

[Bobby Lee]

And I'm not particularly religious.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

Are you?

[Tim Heidecker]

No, I was raised Catholic.

[Bobby Lee]

You were?

[Tim Heidecker]

I could sing one of my favorite songs from church.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, which one is it? I was raised Catholic.

[Tim Heidecker]

I the Lord of sea and sky I have heard my people cry all who dwell in dark and sin the my hand will say White Catholic.

[Bobby Lee]

What would you like Looking at me like I'm supposed to kick in.

[Tim Heidecker]

And is it I, Lord?

[Bobby Lee]

I've never heard of it before.

[Tim Heidecker]

It's a good one.

[Podcast Host 2]

Filipino churches didn't have that specific one, but I like it.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Well, Koreans, we had that version.

[Podcast Host 2]

Do you have a lot of Catholics?

[Podcast Host 1]

Same melody.

[Tim Heidecker]

What's hananim mean?

[Bobby Lee]

Hanani means God. Okay.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

All that other stuff was just made

[Tim Heidecker]

up

[Bobby Lee]

because I don't know Korean that well. No, but I know Hana name, which is God. You know what I mean? And.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah, with an M at the end.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And there's just a little tidbit that I found out last night. There's a place called Homo Hill in Korea. It's the gay area. But anyway, let's move on. I just found that out last night.

[Podcast Host 2]

Where is it? I'm sorry.

[Bobby Lee]

You went to Humble Hill? Yes, I did.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

What were you doing? Praying.

[Podcast Host 1]

Hanging out,

[Podcast Host 2]

Wrestling with his bros. Yeah,

[Podcast Host 1]

we're just hanging out, dropping water bottles.

[Bobby Lee]

Dear Lord. I'll start. You want to go this way?

[Podcast Host 2]

I went, oh, we're all singing.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, you already saw. Oh, you went. That's the.

[Tim Heidecker]

I'm not gonna do it again.

[Bobby Lee]

I didn't ask you to sing.

[Podcast Host 3]

Whoa.

[Podcast Host 1]

First of all, I like his verse.

[Bobby Lee]

I know. Yeah, but that's not a prayer. That's a song. No, a hymn is a hymn.

[Tim Heidecker]

A prayer, I would think it's a. Yeah, right. It's not technically a prayer. If you want to come back to me, I'm happy to do it. Whatever fills the time.

[Bobby Lee]

Wait, wait, no.

[Tim Heidecker]

You know what, dude?

[Bobby Lee]

We're going to go as long as we can.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay?

[Bobby Lee]

We're going to break a record tonight.

[Podcast Host 1]

Four hours.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

So, dear Lord, Heavenly Father, thank you so much for the food and. Please help. What?

[Tim Heidecker]

What food?

[Podcast Host 2]

Where's the food?

[Bobby Lee]

In general? Yeah, yeah, we eat in general.

[Podcast Host 2]

Your surplus upstairs?

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, I have surplus food upstairs, yeah. You do?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Can you not interrupt my fucking prayers? Lady? What the fuck are you doing?

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, we both had my phone.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Dear Lord, heavenly Father, our savior. Thank you so much for friendship and being able to express myself on the Internet the way I do. Thank you for Tim Heidecker for being here. I'm a big fan. Thank you for the ocean and all the life that lives in it. Even the. All the varieties of sharks. They have. They have the Greenland shark that lives for, like, 500 years. Thank you for that. You know what I mean? And thank you for. Can I ask you a question real

[Podcast Host 2]

quick in the middle of a.

[Bobby Lee]

No, no.

[Podcast Host 1]

This is a good phrase.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I'm going to keep thinking my mom's still being alive, Right? Thank you for my mom still being alive.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I had a colonoscopy thank you, Lord. And I have no polyps and I have no cancer in my butthole.

[Podcast Host 1]

Let's go.

[Bobby Lee]

Which is.

[Podcast Host 3]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

It's a good thing.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

It can be elsewhere. But just so you know, that's not a full clear. Clear of.

[Podcast Host 1]

You could have cancer somewhere else.

[Tim Heidecker]

You could have cancer somewhere else. Just so you know, that doesn't. It's not checking at all.

[Podcast Host 1]

One area.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, no. I mean, you know, we felt good, though.

[Tim Heidecker]

We felt.

[Bobby Lee]

It felt good.

[Tim Heidecker]

We pray that you don't have it anywhere else.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, yeah, we pray that we have. Yeah. Thank you for that information, by the way. Okay. And also thank you for. Let's hope that we can get out of this war. But there's no off ramp. There's no off ramp. And, you know. Yeah, we gotta. We're okay. Go ahead.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, it's.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, we go around the circle.

[Podcast Host 2]

Thank you, Lord, for my son and my son only.

[Podcast Host 3]

Jesus.

[Bobby Lee]

No, he has an actual physical son. Go ahead, Jaime.

[Guest 2]

Dear Jesus. What's up, man? Hey, man. We're waiting for you. Second Coming. Oh, thank you for empanadas. Empanadas. Thank you for

[Bobby Lee]

taquitos and flautas.

[Guest 2]

Walmart and. And Ralph's and Tim Heideiker for being here.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

You like Churo?

[Guest 2]

I don't like that.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay. Okay. Long.

[Guest 2]

Thank you for tacos. 1986.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yes.

[Bobby Lee]

Great play.

[Guest 2]

It's all right. And that's it. Amen.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. Amen.

[Guest 2]

Go ahead, Jesus.

[Tim Heidecker]

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Oh, wait, I missed it. Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy Jesus, come. Thy.

[Podcast Host 2]

Thy kingdom come.

[Tim Heidecker]

Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we

[Bobby Lee]

forgive those who trespass against us.

[Podcast Host 1]

That's a Catholic right there.

[Tim Heidecker]

There you go. Deliver us now from evil. And now until the. Lead us not into temptation and deliver us from evil.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Let's move on.

[Podcast Host 2]

Amen.

[Bobby Lee]

Amen.

[Guest 2]

Amen.

[Bobby Lee]

Very good. Very good. Let's clap. Let's go. We did a prayer, and I think this is gonna go very well. I think it's gonna go very well.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Guest 2]

Amen.

[Bobby Lee]

Congratulations on infowars.

[Tim Heidecker]

Thank you.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And you're the creative director, apparently.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

What? I mean, you don't have to, because we don't want to give spoilers, but what's the direction? Do you think you're gonna take it?

[Tim Heidecker]

We're looking at direct competitors to Zillow. I don't know if you're familiar.

[Podcast Host 3]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

I love that angle.

[Bobby Lee]

I love that really good angle, dude.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Acquiring Redfin.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, or built.

[Podcast Host 3]

Built. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Apartments.com. we're talking to Jeff Goldblum right now.

[Bobby Lee]

This is really good.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Good direction.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah, no, we're gonna, like, event. You know, we're gonna goof around on. On Alex for a little while.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

And then we're gonna just try to turn into, like, a comedy streaming site, you know, for fun, for good shit.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

That we like.

[Podcast Host 3]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

You know, because it doesn't really exist right now. There's, you know, there's a few places. There's. Yeah, but there used to be a lot of places. There used to be Adult Swim.

[Bobby Lee]

Yes.

[Tim Heidecker]

Have you turned on Comedy Central lately? I. It's the Office reruns.

[Bobby Lee]

I don't even know how to even get onto Comedy Central.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Where do you find that?

[Podcast Host 1]

I don't even.

[Bobby Lee]

It's on cable. Oh, is that on the Internet, Strictly, or can you watch it? Does Comedy Central still have a platform?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yes, they do.

[Tim Heidecker]

It's just the Office. It's the Office Futurama or something.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

They used to do mad TV all the time. They bought the rides for a while. So, you know, I mean, that's how. Yeah, yeah. But that's what Comedy Central.

[Tim Heidecker]

It's like, me TV for confidence.

[Bobby Lee]

Well, it's. It's also, you know, it's corporate. You know, there's no corporate, and I hate corporate.

[Tim Heidecker]

Anything corporate.

[Bobby Lee]

Well, I mean, because with corporations involved, there's notes.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yes.

[Bobby Lee]

And there's like. You know what I mean? You can't do that. And it's like, I just think that that, you know, stifles comedy in a certain way.

[Tim Heidecker]

But there is, like. I mean, from my experience at Adult Swim for many years, there was. That was a corporation, but there was like, it was a small group of people that really cared, that really had great sensibility that. That I wanted to get notes from because they were really good.

[Podcast Host 3]

Ye.

[Tim Heidecker]

And I'm hoping I can be that for some people.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Or just be encouraging and experimental and try stuff and give people some money and see what happens.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Can I play Kim Jong Un in anything?

[Tim Heidecker]

You're on our short list.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Who's. If you were to cast Kim Jong Un, Right. What. What is the list? I want to know the list.

[Tim Heidecker]

Oh. Oh, I see.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

I just mean you're on our general short list.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, to play something of talent.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, so you don't have, like a list of, like. Well, number one is Jimmy O. Yang, number two is Ronny Chang, and number three is Bobby Lee.

[Tim Heidecker]

It is a short list. But you're.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Because I've always been like. I mean, on a short list for everything. But I'm always fifth.

[Tim Heidecker]

Right.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Four people have to say no for me to get it and.

[Tim Heidecker]

Have you done him before? Have you done him?

[Bobby Lee]

I played his dad.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yes.

[Tim Heidecker]

Back when he was alive.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Ill. Yeah, I did ill. Oh, yeah. I didn't know.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

It'll be difficult.

[Podcast Host 2]

I think they even had Margaret do un before you.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Like an award show one time.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

But in that specific situation, they asked me to audition and I said I wouldn't audition because I. I had already done ill.

[Podcast Host 2]

They should know.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. So I did ill on tv. So I'm like, I'm pretty much going to do ill for un.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Right.

[Tim Heidecker]

So I don't think you're going to get a lot of customer complaints.

[Podcast Host 1]

You didn't do it right.

[Bobby Lee]

You didn't do it right.

[Tim Heidecker]

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I felt like I. I just watch the TV and see me do ill. But they're like, no, we gave. They gave it to Margaret.

[Tim Heidecker]

Would you wear a fat suit?

[Bobby Lee]

I do everything I can.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Even. Even a bigger one, you know, I mean, as if he, you know, ate his daughter or whatever. That's like. Let me cut that out.

[Tim Heidecker]

Isn't she next in line?

[Bobby Lee]

She's next in line and she. He adores her, which is what I like him. I like him, too. He's so sad.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Because he feels. I feel like he's alone.

[Tim Heidecker]

Well, he's got Trump. They seem to get along, but you don't hear much about that anymore. They don't keep in touch.

[Bobby Lee]

Well, you know, I heard that Trump, when he goes to Beijing, which probably will never happen, but he. I heard that he wants to see Ill un too.

[Tim Heidecker]

Right, right.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

But maybe that reunion may or may not happen. You know what I mean? But I feel like he's got a

[Tim Heidecker]

lot on his plate.

[Bobby Lee]

Who does?

[Tim Heidecker]

Trump.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

He too much, I think.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Maybe, you know, we're not.

[Tim Heidecker]

I think he's doing a great job.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, you do?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

One thing.

[Tim Heidecker]

Ballroom, Ballroom. We need.

[Bobby Lee]

We need.

[Tim Heidecker]

That's the first thing I thought.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Bulletproof bullet where is the ballroom? Yeah, where is it? I've always looked at the building that needs a ballroom.

[Tim Heidecker]

Well, you know what? If.

[Bobby Lee]

Or a dome.

[Tim Heidecker]

If that's the logic, then he has to stay in the ballroom. Like a. Like a gorilla in a cage.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, yes.

[Tim Heidecker]

He can't leave.

[Bobby Lee]

He can't le. Leave.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

If he leaves, he's going to be killed.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Or like one of those Vegas domes. Yes, that'd be fun.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Or like a Truman show thing.

[Bobby Lee]

Like a Truman show thing. Yeah. Or may build a world for him.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah. Oh, dude, that's what we should have done from the beginning.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, that. That house in Vegas, that's like a 1970s bunker. No, that's like, lit the way the outside would be lit. Like, can you pull it up, Gilb? I feel like maybe trying to freak

[Bobby Lee]

us out or what?

[Podcast Host 2]

No, it freaks me out because I'm claustrophobic and I hate artificial lights.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh.

[Tim Heidecker]

So when you're there, it feels like you're above ground, but it's all screen.

[Podcast Host 2]

Exactly. So it's made to, like, mimic outside as if you were living above ground.

[Bobby Lee]

I saw. It's a whole community, right?

[Podcast Host 2]

Whole, like, huge.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, I've seen that.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

By the way, I just want to say sympathy and love to all the people that work behind the scenes on podcasts. When people say, can you look that thing up? And they use very little information. And this guy's over here looking up random words. 70s Vegas.

[Podcast Host 2]

Las Vegas.

[Podcast Host 3]

Las Vegas.

[Tim Heidecker]

I got it. I got it.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, you have it, right?

[Bobby Lee]

Look how frantic he looks.

[Podcast Host 1]

There's a lot.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

How frantic.

[Tim Heidecker]

And you're asking it just like, bring. Can't bring that to me video.

[Bobby Lee]

That's not what. That's not what we're talking about.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, that's.

[Tim Heidecker]

No, that's not it.

[Bobby Lee]

That's not it.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, I got it.

[Tim Heidecker]

Get in my brain and put up what I'm thinking about.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

You don't know.

[Guest 2]

Dude, I can help him. The Venetian walkway.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, no, that's not it.

[Guest 2]

Yes, it is.

[Bobby Lee]

No, it's not. Oh, that.

[Tim Heidecker]

I know.

[Bobby Lee]

That's in the Vegas Hotel.

[Podcast Host 2]

This is someone who actually built.

[Bobby Lee]

That's not. There's an underground bunker.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's a home. It's a full blown home.

[Bobby Lee]

And it's not just a home. Can I. May I interrupt?

[Podcast Host 2]

Yes, yes.

[Bobby Lee]

It's a city.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's a city, right?

[Tim Heidecker]

Oh, it's a city.

[Bobby Lee]

And it's an experiment. Supposedly. It's a conspiracy theory that they built a city underground. I didn't hear. It was in Vegas. I don't know why we were talking about it. Built this city, we built this underground. Yeah. Who sang that song? Starship. Exactly. Anyway, great band.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I miss Tina Turner for some reason.

[Tim Heidecker]

What?

[Bobby Lee]

I've been learned. I just been missing Tina Turner.

[Podcast Host 2]

You know her?

[Tim Heidecker]

This is insane, by the way.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

What is this?

[Tim Heidecker]

That wouldn't fool you for two seconds. Completely crazy right away.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, it's crazy right away.

[Podcast Host 2]

Is this the one with a pool and everything?

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah, I saw.

[Podcast Host 1]

It does have a pool.

[Guest 1]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And it's underground. That's underground. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I don't know why you would bring this up in the middle of somewhere.

[Podcast Host 2]

Ballroom and, you know, things.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, a Truman show type of thing. Thank you so much, Tim, for even getting me back on track.

[Tim Heidecker]

You're welcome.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

We need a contained world where he. You can't exit. Right.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

So why did the Tim and Eric show end? Whoa.

[Tim Heidecker]

We just got serious.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah, it.

[Bobby Lee]

Was it like a Beatles breakup?

[Tim Heidecker]

No, no, we're. I was just texting with Eric today. And what happened? Let's see. Well, we stopped awesome show because we wanted to make the movie, which became Billion Dollar Movie.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

And we made that. And then we made another show called Bedtime Stories, and that ran its course. Everything just runs its course, you know?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

We don't want to, like, you know, bore everything into the ground, if that's the right word for it. But we get antsy and restless and. Yeah. And I think we did another show after that called Beef House, which we did six episodes of. The fake sitcom.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

And then they decided not to make more of that. So it's a little bit decided by, you know, the networks. And then we. We tried to pitch a couple things that didn't happen. And then Eric and I each got busy with our own projects and live. And Life happens.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

You know, it just. You know, we have some plans for stuff in the future, but we'll see.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Because it's a. Bluetooth. You guys, I'm 54 years old and I have to admit. Hi. I admit it. I use bluechew. I'll tell you why. As you get older. You mean you have Ed and for. You're a doctor. Tell me what that means.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's erectile dysfunction. And listen, listen. It can happen to the best of us, no matter what age. Sometimes if you're just a little nervous, or sometimes you're just not Hulk Hogan.

[Bobby Lee]

Manly men. It can happen to men.

[Podcast Host 2]

The manliest man I know of all men. Bobby Lee. Yeah, Sometimes gets a little bit limp.

[Bobby Lee]

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[Podcast Host 2]

So, you know, I'm sure, Bobby, you've been there, right?

[Bobby Lee]

Been there, I'm there, he's there, I'm there.

[Podcast Host 2]

Now you're physically at attention. Like your body is ready, but your mind's just not in.

[Bobby Lee]

It's like as if I'm getting drafted.

[Podcast Host 2]

I know. And sometimes you want just not working with you.

[Bobby Lee]

But you know what? It's easy. Just 20 minutes, 30 minutes before you know, and also lasts so you don't have the time. It doesn't even have to be that. Right. But I know for a fact that once I my PPE goes to war.

[Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

It's going to defeat any enemy.

[Podcast Host 2]

War and peace. Peace and war. And also I'll just say in 2026, for everyone listening, I wish you all better sex.

[Bobby Lee]

I wish that for beyond.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, you're welcome.

[Podcast Host 1]

In 2080, I'll have better, healthy, beautiful,

[Podcast Host 2]

consensual, bricked up, good sex.

[Podcast Host 1]

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[Bobby Lee]

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[Podcast Host 2]

Well, housing is so expensive. Very rent, mortgage, whatever it is, it doesn't matter. Which is why paying stings, at least for me, every month like a bee.

[Bobby Lee]

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[Podcast Host 2]

Hayat.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Lyft rides, Amazon.com purchases and so much more. Personally, I redeem my points for lift rides.

[Podcast Host 2]

Me.

[Bobby Lee]

What do you do?

[Podcast Host 2]

Soul cycle class, baby.

[Bobby Lee]

Hey, stay hydrated.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Guest 2]

Student loan balances, man.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, you can do that.

[Bobby Lee]

I never went to college.

[Guest 2]

Yeah, I did, but I never showed up.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay, wait.

[Bobby Lee]

Member Only experiences, dude, you know I like that.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, I know what you like. Select restaurant.

[Bobby Lee]

I like select restaurants. And like, I'm a member only, you know, Kinky. Kinky. Not so kinky. Like food.

[Guest 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

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[Bobby Lee]

Helix Sleep. Helix Sleep, dude. Guys, I have beds in my room and my room.

[Podcast Host 1]

You have multiple beds.

[Bobby Lee]

Multiple rooms with many beds. Right. That's what I meant to say.

[Podcast Host 2]

You're a mattress king.

[Bobby Lee]

I'm the king of all mattresses. And I only use Helix because it's the best kind. I really do. People spend the night at my house. I go, oh my God, I slept so well. I go, what is it? I go, Helix. A study that they ran found that 82% of those involved saw an increase in their deep sleep cycle with sleeping on a Helix mattress.

[Podcast Host 2]

And honestly, I've had my Helix for over five years now and it is still perfect as the first day.

[Bobby Lee]

Me too.

[Podcast Host 2]

Let me see. And it's so easy. You just take a quiz. You take the Helix quiz online and they match you with a mattress based on your the type of sleeper that you are. Like for instance, me, I am a side sleeper and I run really hot. So I got matched with the midnight.

[Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Helix is the best mattress on planet Earth. Just get it, man. Right? Award winning Helix is the most awarded mattress brand, tested and reviewed by experts like Forbes and Wire. Free shipping and seamless delivery. Helix delivers your mattress right to your door with free shipping in the U.S. all right. I'm happy with it. Everyone in this room is happy with it. Get Helix sleep, man.

[Podcast Host 2]

He's muy passionate.

[Podcast Host 3]

Muy muy.

[Podcast Host 2]

And what's really cool too is that they give you 120 nights of a trial. So if you're like, you know what, I don't like it. You can give it back 120.

[Bobby Lee]

But you're not. You're gonna do 10,000 nights after that.

[Podcast Host 2]

Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

[Tim Heidecker]

But no need to worry.

[Bobby Lee]

Don't worry about it.

[Podcast Host 1]

Go to helixleep.comtigerbelly for 20 off side wide. That's helixleep.comtigerBelly for 20 off side wide. Make sure you enter our show name after checkout so they know we sent you. Helixleep.com Tigerbelly DraftKings Cassie Shopify, Shopify, Shopify.

[Bobby Lee]

You know, we have an online business we use Shopify. Do you know why starting something is hard?

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Is it not?

[Podcast Host 2]

Totally.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all e commerce in the US from household names like Skims, Allbirds, Tiger Belly to brands just getting started as well. With hundreds of ready to use templates, Shopify helps you build a beautiful online store that matches your brand style, accelerate your efficiency.

[Podcast Host 2]

Whether you're uploading new products or trying to improve existing one, Shopify is packed with helpful AI tools that write product descriptions for page headlines and even enhance your product photography.

[Bobby Lee]

Best yet, Shopify is your e commerce expert with world class expertise in everything from managing inventory to international shipping, to processing returns and beyond.

[Podcast Host 2]

And Kat, what if people haven't heard about my brand?

[Bobby Lee]

Well, that's okay.

[Podcast Host 2]

Shopify helps you find your customers with easy to run email and social media. But Kat, what if I get stuck? Oh, it's okay.

[Bobby Lee]

Shopify is always around to share advice with their award winning 24.

[Podcast Host 2]

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[Bobby Lee]

The Purple button, please. And did I mention the iconic purple button?

[Podcast Host 1]

So you wanted to bring it?

[Bobby Lee]

I want to bring it to the shop pay button that's used by millions of businesses around the world. It's why Shopify has the best converting checkout on the planet. It also helps boost conversions, meaning less cards going abandoned and more sales for you.

[Podcast Host 1]

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[Guest 3]

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[Guest 1]

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[Guest 4]

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[Guest 1]

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[Guest 4]

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[Guest 1]

Start your GoFundMe today at gofundme.com that's gofundme.com gofundme.com this message reflects one person's experience.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Because it's a. It's a legendary show. You know, honestly, when I, you know, because I was on MADtv and I always looked at your show and went, I wish it was more like that,

[Tim Heidecker]

you know, it wasn't concurrent, was it? Was it concurrent?

[Bobby Lee]

What is concurrent?

[Tim Heidecker]

Like, at the same time?

[Podcast Host 2]

At the same time, like.

[Bobby Lee]

Well, I mean, we ended in 2008.

[Tim Heidecker]

Oh, okay. So it was.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

So, yeah, I was aware of it and watching it and I was like, you know, I just. It was more my type of comedy.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Work a show.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Whereas I was playing Connie Chong and things that I didn't want to do.

[Tim Heidecker]

You know what? One of the first people, like, the first people I met out here before even. I think before I even moved here because we. We kind of became. Got some success through Bob Odenkirk.

[Bobby Lee]

I love Bob Odenkirk.

[Tim Heidecker]

And Bob was the first person to see us and believe in us and push us. But the other person that I was just a fan of from the Christopher Guest movies was Michael Hitchcock.

[Bobby Lee]

He's one of my. He's one. He. He is one of my best buddies in the whole world.

[Tim Heidecker]

And so I wrote him like a fan, and he was like, well, if you're going to be in la. But we kept in touch and then we came out to LA to visit Bob and he invited me to a MAD TV taping.

[Bobby Lee]

Wow.

[Tim Heidecker]

But it was very weird because I don't think he didn't know how to help me at the time and I didn't know what. I don't know. It was just this weird, like. So how was your flight?

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, right.

[Tim Heidecker]

It's a little awkward. We had lunch and everything, but. But yeah, he let us come to a taping. I don't know. I can't say if you were there, but it would have been 2004.

[Bobby Lee]

No, I wasn't. I was probably there, but.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

But. Well, Hitchcock was kind of a producer. If you watch the Guest. Christopher Guest movies, he is in all

[Tim Heidecker]

of them, I'm sure. Most of them.

[Bobby Lee]

Definitely the big ones. Best in show. Definitely. Star Waiting for Golf.

[Tim Heidecker]

He's got the braces.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, very funny. And then Waiting for Government. He's in it.

[Tim Heidecker]

That moment is like one of the most important comedy moments.

[Bobby Lee]

So too.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And when he's welling up watching, you know, is so fucking funny.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I mean his desire for him. You know what I mean?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yes.

[Bobby Lee]

But he can't come out because, you know.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

But yeah, Hitchcock. In fact, after Mad tv, I. I got a Comedy Central deal and he was my showrunner.

[Guest 2]

Wow.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

So tell him I said hello.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, I will. Yeah, he is to me. And he's. You know what I love about Hitchcock? Am I boring you?

[Podcast Host 2]

No. Why are you saying that?

[Tim Heidecker]

And we're not talking about Alfred Hitchcock. Most times people say, you know what I love about Hitchcock? Oh, this camera angle.

[Bobby Lee]

We're also very, very big fans of

[Podcast Host 2]

Christopher Gas movies are my favorite. You know this.

[Bobby Lee]

Did you meet Michael?

[Podcast Host 2]

No, I never did.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Wow, that's interesting.

[Tim Heidecker]

Well, and then it. Well, this is. This is very boring. But the other show I do On Cinema, which you should be watching.

[Bobby Lee]

Why? Why should I be watching?

[Tim Heidecker]

Well, because it's the best thing ever. And some guys back. You're nodding a little bit, but

[Bobby Lee]

you'll.

[Podcast Host 3]

Nodding.

[Bobby Lee]

Who is nodding? You were. George, do you know about cinema?

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

What is it?

[Tim Heidecker]

It's the greatest. It's films. What do you mean?

[Bobby Lee]

Okay.

[Tim Heidecker]

No, well, it's just type in On Cinema with Tim Heidecker or something like that. But me and Greg Turkington, who you know from. As Neil Hamburger.

[Guest 2]

Yes.

[Tim Heidecker]

We've been doing this for 12. Almost like concurrent with him and Eric, you know, Neil Hamburger, he's like one of my closest friends. Well, now you're playing the first episode of On Cinema at the cinema. This doesn't look. This doesn't look familiar to you?

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, it does for sure it does.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And what I forgot, you watch movies. And you. You review them?

[Tim Heidecker]

Essentially, yes, but it's much deeper than that.

[Bobby Lee]

Is there conspiracies and stuff? And, like, what you're.

[Tim Heidecker]

It's a soap opera. It's a saga of these two characters who genuinely and generally hate each other.

[Bobby Lee]

Like Siskel and Ebert.

[Tim Heidecker]

Like Siskel and Ebert.

[Bobby Lee]

They hated each other.

[Podcast Host 2]

Did they really?

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, my God. Do you see, like, have you ever seen them talk between takes and stuff?

[Podcast Host 2]

No, I just.

[Tim Heidecker]

I was type in the Trial of Tim Heidecker, and this is. This is like, if you start watching the show from the beginning, about halfway through the series, you get to what you'll. About what you're about to see.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay.

[Tim Heidecker]

It is a murder trial that my character's on that plays out pretty much in real time.

[Podcast Host 3]

Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay.

[Tim Heidecker]

And.

[Bobby Lee]

All right.

[Tim Heidecker]

And you'll love it. But anyway, I don't know why. Yeah, I don't know.

[Bobby Lee]

I can't wait to watch it.

[Tim Heidecker]

I don't know why I brought it up.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And I can watch that on the YouTube.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yes. About. About five years ago. Yeah. Just skip to the middle of this or something.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

You know, it's. That's me.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

It's five. Five hours long.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And do you play yourself? Do you play yourself?

[Tim Heidecker]

Well, I am. It's my same. It's my name.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Definitely not me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a joy.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Is there a jury?

[Tim Heidecker]

There is a jury.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

You never see them because that's what you would.

[Bobby Lee]

Are these all the people you killed?

[Tim Heidecker]

That's right.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, so you're a serial killer.

[Tim Heidecker]

I know. I'm not a serial killer. I ran a music festival and handed out vape pens that were poisonous accidentally. There's Greg in the background eating popcorn, enjoying it.

[Bobby Lee]

That's great.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

How long does it take you to tape all that?

[Tim Heidecker]

This was about two and a half days.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Out there in Santa Monica. Decommissioned courthouse.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Like, did you produce it yourself?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Well, it was produced for Adult Swim. We got Adult Swim. But about five years ago, we made our own streaming network called the High Network. H E I Network. And it's all behind the paywall now.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

So fans support the show that way.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, that's amazing.

[Tim Heidecker]

It's great.

[Podcast Host 3]

Wow.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. Because me and Andrew, I don't know

[Tim Heidecker]

if you know, I did his show.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

He told me, and him and I produced our own show and we're just going to put on our YouTube. I think that's the kind of the

[Tim Heidecker]

direction that, Yeah, I mean that, that's do that. Hopefully with Infowars we can provide some guidance there, but not for, you know, for whoever. I need guidance or you, you know,

[Bobby Lee]

do I feel like.

[Tim Heidecker]

I didn't mean to say that.

[Bobby Lee]

Does it look like I need guidance?

[Tim Heidecker]

Probably.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay. And so, you know, please guide me.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

I'm trying to think as Ben, the CEO said something like. Ask him to. That he's our. What is it? He said, yes, you can be our new. One of our new correspondents. Comments is what essentially he said.

[Bobby Lee]

But who, me?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Are you being real?

[Tim Heidecker]

Well, that's what he said. I don't know. It's a long road to get.

[Bobby Lee]

Wait, wait, wait. Let me just. Because I love. I would do it.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

I mean, you like, you want to just. You want to just do this on YouTube or do you want to have like the curated sort of patina of it being on Infowars is the question.

[Bobby Lee]

That's what I want to do. I want to be a correspondent. Maybe I'll just do news from Asia.

[Tim Heidecker]

That sounds great.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

I love the title.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

From Asia.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

From.

[Tim Heidecker]

From Hollywood.

[Bobby Lee]

From Hollywood, though. Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

From Hollywood News of Asia.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. And maybe Ken Jeong and I could be both.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

Or something like that, you know, I mean.

[Tim Heidecker]

Well, yeah, let's. Let's circle back as we say in the business.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

You know, usually in the business when they say circle back.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Or they say you're in the mix or they we pinned you.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Means you're not going to get the job.

[Podcast Host 3]

Right.

[Bobby Lee]

So I. I don't feel like this is going to happen.

[Tim Heidecker]

It might not know. I'm just. I don't like to do business deals on air.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, is that what you're thinking?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I like to lock it in air.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

So this is. The fans go. Oh, there's a verbal agreement. Right.

[Tim Heidecker]

I'm not making any commitments, Rich.

[Bobby Lee]

Not at all.

[Tim Heidecker]

No. But I wield so much power. I have to be careful.

[Bobby Lee]

I understand that you wield a lot of power. But can I ask you this though? Right? What does your heart say?

[Tim Heidecker]

I would love. You seem like a fun guy to work with.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yes. Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

I'm gonna have to do a lot of research and talk to these.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay. But let me just. Can I. Can I like to do a job interview.

[Tim Heidecker]

No, I'd rather not. Yes. At some point. Not.

[Bobby Lee]

No. But right now. Because you don't have to say yes or no. I could just tell you my qualifications.

[Tim Heidecker]

I know your qualifications. You're. You've mad TV and then whatever else. I'm not sure. The Comedy Store. I see your name on the Comedy Store.

[Bobby Lee]

I was in Section of the City.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

Lead with that Reservation dog.

[Podcast Host 2]

Dress dogs.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I was in the movie. The Dictator. I've done films. Right.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I mean, I've done many TV shows. Yeah.

[Guest 4]

Hawaiian.

[Bobby Lee]

Hawaiian. Magnum, P.I.

[Podcast Host 3]

yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I mean, as a reoccurring on that show.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah. It would be a. I'm not done.

[Bobby Lee]

I'm not done. I'm not done, dude. All right, Number one, I'm punctual. You know, I'm not like Tim Dillon, where it's like, I'm gonna show up and he doesn't show up.

[Tim Heidecker]

How about me? I was 10 minutes early and already

[Bobby Lee]

you showed your qualifications.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

For being a. Coming back to this show.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

A tycoon.

[Bobby Lee]

A tycoon. Number two. Right. I'm very nice to staff and everybody. Right.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And also number three, I'm. I can take notes.

[Tim Heidecker]

Good. That's good. That's important.

[Bobby Lee]

I can take notes.

[Podcast Host 2]

He's also properly medicated.

[Bobby Lee]

I'm properly medicated.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

You're on psychoactive medication.

[Bobby Lee]

I'm on Lexapro.

[Tim Heidecker]

Lexapro. Okay.

[Podcast Host 2]

And ADHD medication and adg. Laser focus.

[Bobby Lee]

I'm laser focused.

[Tim Heidecker]

I'm very impressed.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Guest 2]

And he doesn't have cancer yet.

[Bobby Lee]

I don't have colon cancer.

[Podcast Host 1]

Huge.

[Bobby Lee]

Which is a huge thing.

[Podcast Host 2]

You're in therapy?

[Bobby Lee]

I'm in therapy. Psychiatrist.

[Tim Heidecker]

Do you have any vices? What are your vices?

[Bobby Lee]

I've been four years sober.

[Tim Heidecker]

Is that California sober or what?

[Podcast Host 2]

Real sober.

[Tim Heidecker]

Real.

[Bobby Lee]

So real sober.

[Podcast Host 2]

Why'd you go, oh, no, I was like, vices. But then, you know, the picture.

[Tim Heidecker]

You drink pee.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. I think the porn.

[Bobby Lee]

No, porn.

[Podcast Host 2]

Porn is.

[Bobby Lee]

It's been three months.

[Tim Heidecker]

Oh, wow.

[Bobby Lee]

I'm also in a relationship now.

[Tim Heidecker]

You're in a relationship?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's amazing. Three months?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's incredible. Congrats.

[Bobby Lee]

So what's up with the p. That was.

[Podcast Host 2]

That was.

[Tim Heidecker]

I wouldn't have a problem with it either way.

[Bobby Lee]

I don't know. That was even.

[Podcast Host 2]

I also don't think porn. It is a disqualifier if you applying

[Bobby Lee]

to Chick Fil A. All right. Chick Fil A. Right. And they're all. They're not going to go. Do you watch porn? If you're. You know what I mean?

[Tim Heidecker]

The question. I mean, listen, you know the Chick Fil A? Chick Fil A. Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Do you know the hiring Methods of that.

[Podcast Host 2]

No, they are very, very Christian.

[Tim Heidecker]

I guess they are.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay, listen, it's. You're very. You're. It's a very impressive interview. And the question will be, do you have it? Have it?

[Bobby Lee]

Do I have it?

[Tim Heidecker]

And I don't know what. I don't know. We'll find out. We'll have to talk.

[Bobby Lee]

No, no, let me say this, okay? Let me say this. All right?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And I. I don't want to brag. All right. When you said it, it kind of made me defensive a little bit.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay. So when I do what I've done

[Podcast Host 2]

pilots and I knew the monkey was gonna come up.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

And you're the monkey story.

[Bobby Lee]

I'm not breaking up the monkey.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 1]

You might be monkey and baby.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

So I did a tele. A network television show with a monkey.

[Guest 2]

Okay.

[Tim Heidecker]

What was it called?

[Bobby Lee]

It was called Animal Practice. Can you look it up, please? Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

And is that the one with Joel McHale?

[Bobby Lee]

It sounds like a Joel McHale.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

But this was a sick. I'm. Zoom in. Go. Go to the monkey.

[Tim Heidecker]

Oh, my God. There you are with the mustache.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, there I am with the mustache.

[Tim Heidecker]

And the bow tie.

[Bobby Lee]

And the bow tie. Right. So I play a veterinarian. Okay. And see the monkey there? I tested as good as the monkey.

[Podcast Host 1]

I knew you were gonna say that.

[Tim Heidecker]

Who's the guy on the right? Who's the lead?

[Bobby Lee]

He's from Weeds.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 1]

Justin.

[Bobby Lee]

Justin. Justin Kirk. Yeah, Kirk.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Has he done this? Okay, we should have him on Tyler Levine.

[Tim Heidecker]

Who's the woman all the way in the back?

[Bobby Lee]

Betsy Sadaro.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

She's from ucb.

[Tim Heidecker]

Anyway, how many episodes did that show last a year?

[Guest 2]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

They said it was the worst show ever made.

[Tim Heidecker]

I want to watch it.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, yeah. But you know who the producers were?

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, that's right.

[Tim Heidecker]

Lord and Miller.

[Podcast Host 1]

I hope it was.

[Bobby Lee]

No, it's the Russo brothers.

[Tim Heidecker]

Well, it was close, almost.

[Bobby Lee]

From Avengers and all.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

What network was it on?

[Bobby Lee]

NBC.

[Tim Heidecker]

NBC, yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. Wow.

[Bobby Lee]

We thought it was going to be the next Seinfeld.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

You know, you're doing the pilot.

[Tim Heidecker]

Oh, is there a laugh track?

[Bobby Lee]

It's single camera.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 3]

So, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

No, no laughter.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

But, yeah. So anyway, so I test well, and so it. I think, you know, you got it. Yeah. I think your monkey level it.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Monkey level it. And, you know, I think I'm fairly likable. I think I have star quality.

[Tim Heidecker]

I hear that.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

But still, we'll talk about it. What do you call it circle back. We'll circle.

[Tim Heidecker]

Circle back.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

And probably we're just launching. We have lots of.

[Bobby Lee]

When you see. Circle back. Is that a year, too?

[Tim Heidecker]

I would say by fall.

[Bobby Lee]

So I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get the rejection and fall. Yeah. I want to be prepared when I hear the. No. You know what I mean?

[Tim Heidecker]

I mean, you. We do not have. You're not gonna. We don't. We don't have the offer. Should there be an offer? Should there be an office?

[Podcast Host 1]

Work, Bobby, Nice work.

[Tim Heidecker]

Should there be an offer? It's not going to be something that's going to change things dramatically for you, so let's just. I'm not. I'm not offering.

[Bobby Lee]

Well, here's another thing.

[Tim Heidecker]

I'm not offering NBC money.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay. The last thing I want to say, too. All right. Which is the most important factor of it. All right. Is I would do it for free. Wow.

[Podcast Host 1]

That's.

[Bobby Lee]

That's, like, literally, I don't need it. So it's like, I want to do it because I'm a fan and I believe in it, you know? I mean, so it's like, I would do it for free.

[Tim Heidecker]

Good.

[Bobby Lee]

So, you know.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Just.

[Tim Heidecker]

It's not about the money.

[Podcast Host 2]

Also, that. That was a verbal agreement. What? You just.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, and it's a verbal agreement. I stand by today and in fall. Wow.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

And also, I'm going to tell you another thing or two. Just last night, if you try to get the guy from Shangchi, what's that guy's name, or any of those other Asians. Right?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

They're going to be charging thousands and thousands.

[Tim Heidecker]

We have allotted one Asian for this whole project. So you or somebody else.

[Bobby Lee]

I know, but the free versus.

[Tim Heidecker]

I like the free. I like free with it. Let's table this. That's a good term.

[Podcast Host 1]

Another great term.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay. Let's table it. Yeah. All right. Let's move on from it, then.

[Tim Heidecker]

Good idea.

[Bobby Lee]

But congratulations on it.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And thanks for thinking of me.

[Tim Heidecker]

No further comments.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, yeah,

[Podcast Host 3]

yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I always say that after a job, I go, thanks for thinking of me when every shoot that I do.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah. It is true, you know, I mean, out of all the people in the

[Bobby Lee]

world, in the world that they could have asked, you know, I mean, I always just go at the end. I also do a little speech now if, you know. Do you ever do a speech?

[Tim Heidecker]

No.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

What I do now, I just did a show for Netflix. It was my. I did two episodes and I'm not allowed to say what it is. Because I signed an NDA. But what is it?

[Podcast Host 1]

I don't think he knows what an NDA.

[Bobby Lee]

You know what an NDA is? No. Because guess what?

[Guest 2]

An exposure agreement.

[Tim Heidecker]

That's it. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

I don't think he knows what that means.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, you know what it means. What does that mean?

[Guest 2]

You don't need to listen to it and just say it.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay? So anyway, what can you do?

[Tim Heidecker]

Who's in it? Who's the star?

[Bobby Lee]

Can you believe it?

[Guest 2]

Out.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah, of course.

[Bobby Lee]

No, I'm not even gonna do that.

[Tim Heidecker]

I don't even. I mean, I don't care.

[Bobby Lee]

But anyway, they said, oh, that's a season wrap for Bobby. And then now what I do now. I've been doing this every time I do a long speech.

[Tim Heidecker]

Oh.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, no.

[Bobby Lee]

You like it?

[Podcast Host 1]

I don't think Tim likes it.

[Tim Heidecker]

No. People want to get back to work.

[Bobby Lee]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Podcast Host 2]

Huh?

[Tim Heidecker]

The grips are standing there.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

No, no.

[Tim Heidecker]

Give me a break.

[Bobby Lee]

I got.

[Tim Heidecker]

I'm being the grip. I'm pretending to be the one of the guys.

[Bobby Lee]

I know. But see, here's what you don't know, guy.

[Guest 2]

Okay?

[Bobby Lee]

And I don't know if that offends you, chief, but. Hey, Captain, I'm sending this. Okay? I've already befriended the grip. I go around. I go around the whole thing. I try to memorize everyone's names.

[Podcast Host 1]

Oh, wow.

[Bobby Lee]

And we go. Good job. I don't know even what they do.

[Tim Heidecker]

Right.

[Bobby Lee]

Sometimes they're just holding something, doing a great job.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I mean, because I'm just preparing for the speech.

[Tim Heidecker]

Right, right. So they. So you have them on your side.

[Bobby Lee]

I have them on my side. You know what I mean? And I do a pretty long speech.

[Tim Heidecker]

What's long?

[Bobby Lee]

12 minutes. No, 10 to 12 minutes.

[Tim Heidecker]

It's not. Yeah, it might feel that way for everybody.

[Bobby Lee]

All right, five minutes.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

But it's. I try to go as long as I can to the point where people are, like, dropping things and Are they laughing?

[Tim Heidecker]

Because it's a funny speech.

[Bobby Lee]

They start laughing when it becomes long.

[Tim Heidecker]

Right, right.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay. So it's a conceptual bit.

[Bobby Lee]

It's a conceptual bit that I do. Right. And then I start going into, like, you know, I mean, the. The structure of the buildings. You know what I mean?

[Podcast Host 3]

You know what I mean?

[Tim Heidecker]

Again, they want to go home.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

And.

[Bobby Lee]

And how comfortable the white van is.

[Tim Heidecker]

Right.

[Bobby Lee]

You know what I mean? And also the camaraderie in the white van and the.

[Tim Heidecker]

Well, it sounds like fun for you.

[Podcast Host 2]

Listen.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, go.

[Podcast Host 1]

Okay, That's Very true.

[Bobby Lee]

All right. So everyone's in agreement that what I'm doing is not good?

[Tim Heidecker]

I think so. I mean, if you were told. If you told us you had a 30 second genuinely appreciative speech to the crew, then that's fine. That seems like a very earnest thing to do. But if it's a conceptual bit about length, these people have lives and they want to just return to them.

[Bobby Lee]

I know.

[Tim Heidecker]

And you're prohibiting that. At a very basic level, he does

[Podcast Host 2]

this thing too, where now you can't

[Tim Heidecker]

even look at that.

[Podcast Host 2]

At the hotel.

[Bobby Lee]

I can't look at anybody in the room right now.

[Podcast Host 2]

When he stays in a hotel, one of his favorite games to play is he likes to drive around a roundabout. So he gets the car from the valet, and then.

[Podcast Host 1]

I like this.

[Podcast Host 2]

We take a lap around the little roundabout. Then he sees the valet guy, and I'll wear. He does that 20 times. Oh, just round and round in circle.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

He's not alone in the car. I'm in the car.

[Tim Heidecker]

Oh, my God. Yeah, I like that.

[Bobby Lee]

And then she goes, we have dinner reservations.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I go, I have to do five more.

[Tim Heidecker]

I like that.

[Bobby Lee]

He.

[Tim Heidecker]

The valet guy's got nothing else going on.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yes.

[Tim Heidecker]

He's amused by the whole.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay, I think I pulled a prank the other day. I don't know if you. Let me ask you if. If this was okay or not, if you would be mad.

[Tim Heidecker]

Right.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay. So I'm on tour and I have a tour manager.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

As one does.

[Tim Heidecker]

Sure.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And so I put him in coach. That's not the prank.

[Tim Heidecker]

Fair enough.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, but that's fair enough.

[Tim Heidecker]

Right.

[Bobby Lee]

So we did had an hour and a half wait time at lax. Now we have to fly to Detroit. And because of the time difference. Right. I. I'm hungry and there's dinner reservations.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

Right. So if you're an hour and a half on the tarmac. Right. You're obviously arriving Detroit late. Yeah. Right. And the restaurant's gonna close.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

So I hear an announcement, we land in Detroit. All right. So for those who have a connection, you know this one.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Everyone that doesn't have a connection, if this is where you're landing, sit down. While you know me, the connection people can get off. Right. So I text Carlos. I go, pretend you have a connection.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

So that we can. Just because I'm in first class. Yeah, sorry.

[Tim Heidecker]

I understand.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And we get. So we get to go together.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Right. So Carlos goes, I have a connection. I have a connection. And he. And he goes. And Then once he gets to the front of the thing, I tell this. Oh, my people, he does have a connection.

[Tim Heidecker]

No.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And they go, what? And one of the guys goes, what the. I go, I don't know what he was doing. He doesn't have a connection. This is where we're going. And he just cut in line, right? And then him.

[Tim Heidecker]

And again in a fight, the store, the flight attendant.

[Bobby Lee]

Flight attendant, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Right.

[Bobby Lee]

So me and Carlos, that might, you know, make getting little screaming fight. I was like, he's the one that tested me, you know, me to come. And we get into this fight up front. You know what I mean? What do you think of that prank?

[Tim Heidecker]

To what end, though? Because you want to get. You want to get to this dinner reservation?

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, I'd rather have that.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

It's pretty funny though.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's pretty funny.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, yeah, I would rather have that kind.

[Tim Heidecker]

I like, I just was on a plane with some crew people and. Or a guy I was working with and I was. This isn't as dramatic as that, but I like making a big deal about stuff for his, you know, to annoy him or to. To embarrass him.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

I can't find my glasses. I mean, hold on. They're in here. Wait a minute. They're in my bag. You know, I'm just like the same

[Bobby Lee]

kind of trickery as I do.

[Tim Heidecker]

Fun.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, you're a trickster.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

As. As well as I. I absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So fall.

[Tim Heidecker]

But yes, fall. We'll be talking.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

We'll be talking fall. You know, I mean, we're both tricksters in that way.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Do you do tricks?

[Podcast Host 2]

No.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. You're not a trickster. You're not. You're not even good at improv.

[Podcast Host 2]

I don't even jaywalk.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

I'm just a rule follower. I was beat as a kid. I don't do that stuff.

[Tim Heidecker]

And I apologize. Are you a stand up comedian?

[Podcast Host 2]

No.

[Tim Heidecker]

What do you do then? What is this?

[Bobby Lee]

So her and I were dating for 10 years.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

And we started this podcast. How long ago? Over 10 years ago. Over 10 years ago. Right. Then we broke up.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 2]

Then we broke up.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

And then she met somebody else and she has a baby with somebody else.

[Tim Heidecker]

Oh, okay.

[Bobby Lee]

But we still do this. What?

[Podcast Host 2]

I was like, I don't know if you want to know all this.

[Bobby Lee]

I'm about to end. She has a baby. No. There's no drama.

[Tim Heidecker]

I apologize for not knowing the lore

[Bobby Lee]

of the show it's okay. Yeah, yeah. That's the lore. And. And we do this together.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

He just. I don't know how, but showed up here. Yeah. What's the homie shop man?

[Podcast Host 2]

He's a stand up.

[Bobby Lee]

He's a stand up comedian.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay. Seemed like a funny guy.

[Guest 2]

Thank you.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I like your eyebrows today.

[Guest 2]

Oh, thanks.

[Bobby Lee]

I. Very Spockish.

[Guest 2]

I got them.

[Tim Heidecker]

You got the work done on them?

[Guest 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Threaded thread.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yes, that's the one.

[Tim Heidecker]

Really?

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, yeah, I can tell.

[Guest 2]

Thank you.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, you're welcome. How much it cost you?

[Guest 2]

I don't know. Yeah, I didn't pay for it.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay.

[Tim Heidecker]

What do you mean you didn't pay for it? Your mom, your girlfriend, your girl?

[Guest 2]

Yeah. So.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Guest 2]

It's like 50 bucks, I think.

[Podcast Host 3]

Wow.

[Bobby Lee]

Well, you had your girlfriend do your eyebrows. Hey.

[Guest 2]

Well, I haven't got paid yet, so like, I told her I'll pay.

[Tim Heidecker]

Wait a minute, I thought you're taking care of your crew here.

[Podcast Host 3]

Well,

[Tim Heidecker]

it's going in the. It's going on the performance.

[Podcast Host 1]

It is the performance.

[Bobby Lee]

Well, look, can I. How about no pay yet?

[Tim Heidecker]

He hasn't sent an invoice. Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, yeah. You didn't send an invoice for the 15. Well, then wait for the 15th.

[Guest 2]

Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

And then you'll get. You'll send it in.

[Tim Heidecker]

It's the 29th.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

This might be a highway problem.

[Bobby Lee]

I think it's just you problem.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Why can't you send the invoice?

[Guest 2]

I'll send them soon.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah, yeah, send it.

[Bobby Lee]

Send it and you'll get paid. That's how it works.

[Podcast Host 2]

Eyebrow threading is not $50.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, I don't know.

[Guest 2]

My girlfriend's. Her family's rich.

[Tim Heidecker]

Way less. Your girlfriend's rich.

[Guest 2]

Her family's rich.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 3]

Oh, yeah.

[Guest 2]

They own two funeral homes.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, yes. The funeral home is big.

[Guest 2]

Cemetery is that big money.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, huge. My death is forever.

[Bobby Lee]

It is.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. That's like a.

[Tim Heidecker]

Every and everyone dies.

[Podcast Host 1]

It's a business.

[Bobby Lee]

Are you scared of it?

[Podcast Host 3]

Death? Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yes, yes.

[Bobby Lee]

Yes.

[Tim Heidecker]

Sometimes I'm 50. Are you?

[Bobby Lee]

I'm 54.

[Tim Heidecker]

54.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

So I think it hits you like 50 at 50 a little before for me.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

It's just like every once in a while you think about, oh, no. Yeah, this is actually gonna happen.

[Bobby Lee]

I know.

[Tim Heidecker]

It's actually going to happen.

[Bobby Lee]

It's actually gonna happen to me. Yeah, it's gonna happen to you too as well.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

And it's a real. It's a real. It feels like a real raw deal.

[Bobby Lee]

It's a raw deal. And, you know, when Richard Belzer died, apparently on his deathbed, he goes, you. God. You know what I mean? Really? I think something he said, something like that where he was so angry that it was dying. You know what I mean? And he was so pissed about it. But nobody here. How old are you, George?

[Tim Heidecker]

46.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. You're not there yet. Fit. When you hit 50, it comes around and you have to deal with those. That's why I got a colonoscopy and that's why I quit smoking. I mean, I'm doing things to maybe try to. But you know what I believe, though, and. And ask. And I'm gonna ask you this. I don't know much about AI.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 1]

That was your said S. But.

[Bobby Lee]

There's no but. Oh, it's just information. Okay. I just don't know much about.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

You know what I would love is a podcast where guys talk about AI.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

You know, they don't. Don't.

[Tim Heidecker]

Don't really know much about.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'd be fun.

[Tim Heidecker]

Sort of have. Have thoughts on it.

[Bobby Lee]

I do have thoughts about it, but it's like, you know, but I've been. I think maybe AI technology, when it comes to medicine, will prolong our.

[Tim Heidecker]

I hope so. That's for. I'm excited about that.

[Bobby Lee]

Do you think so or no?

[Tim Heidecker]

Well, I felt like a couple. Here we go. I felt like a couple years ago there was this real utopian view of the AI thing that we're like, entering. About to enter into this new age. New age. And there are going to be a lot of down downsides to that about employment and all this stuff, but that there was this almost extraterrestrial, you know, level of super intelligence. And then it feels like it's maybe just a bunch of.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Like maybe they were just like a bunch of these tech guys trying to whip up a lot of investment and a lot of interest, and it's like, well, we don't re. It doesn't really work.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

But I might. That might be wrong, too.

[Bobby Lee]

I think you're wrong.

[Tim Heidecker]

I think there's.

[Bobby Lee]

I think you're wrong. I don't know much about it.

[Tim Heidecker]

I think there are some parts of it that are. Are really. It's specifically in medicine and science and stuff where it could actually do amazing things, apparently.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

But like, have you tried, like, the chat. Like, it. It feels like it's really stupid.

[Bobby Lee]

Well, chat. I. I deleted. I'll tell you why. Okay.

[Tim Heidecker]

That's Sam Altman. He's Got to be. I mean he seems like a bad guy.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And also I think that it's lying to me.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I'll give you.

[Podcast Host 2]

Specifically, I'll get.

[Bobby Lee]

I'll give you a prime example why I deleted chat. Gpd. I go, who started the Iran war? And it goes, well, they've technically been in war in 47 years. I go, you know me when it does that. I'm like, no, no, we, we started. We bombed them. Right, right. And he goes, well, people would still perceive that as, you know, I mean, right. Detention and they have nuclear capabilities. I go, they didn't have, you know. And then you keep arguing and it, it tries to stay in the middle. Right. When it knows. You know what I mean, it's wrong.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. Well that's what you use chat for.

[Podcast Host 1]

It's all about.

[Bobby Lee]

I argue back and forth with it to see you know what I mean? How, how if I can win an argument.

[Podcast Host 1]

Oh, that's why, that's why it's debating you, because you're prompting it that way.

[Podcast Host 2]

My questions are so different for children.

[Bobby Lee]

What's your. What's your question?

[Podcast Host 2]

My last ones. If you were to look through my history, silly stuff like how wide is the life lesson seat on United Flight 1598.

[Podcast Host 1]

That's what I ask. Stuff like that.

[Podcast Host 2]

Like tight, like. And I do like a side by side comparison because if I were to do a Google, it would take me forever to find that. Versus chat just kind of lays up because I co. Sleep with my baby for a nap to, you know, long haul flight. So I have to know if we're going to fit in this specific type of old Boeing 777 200.

[Tim Heidecker]

Wow.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, yeah. Bingo.

[Tim Heidecker]

I just hit my three o' clock dip.

[Podcast Host 3]

It's been a long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

It's gone pretty quickly, don't you think?

[Tim Heidecker]

I'm having a blast.

[Podcast Host 3]

Okay, good.

[Tim Heidecker]

Just kidding.

[Bobby Lee]

No, no, I know. We know you were.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yes, thank you.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Because we have comedy sensibilities as well as you do.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Put that performance.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

What have you, what have you used chat for?

[Tim Heidecker]

I'm trying to think. Well, one thing that I found it useful for in, for example, in on cinema when we get together to write or any kind of writer's room. Turn it. There's a, you know, you can record your meeting and then it takes notes and sometimes I find the hardest if you don't have a good note taker, there's so many things coming, blah, blah, blah, you know, we're just riffing and, and Then you lose stuff. And if some. No one's taking good notes and a few of those programs do a really good job of note taking.

[Bobby Lee]

I see.

[Tim Heidecker]

And breaking it down and organizing it and almost immediately, wow. Or another thing was like I had a script that I wrote with somebody and we wanted to send in a synopsis with like, you know, like a one page description of the movie and all this stuff.

[Guest 4]

You.

[Bobby Lee]

So it reads this whole script.

[Tim Heidecker]

Read the script in like in a second and then outputted this, this summary. And it was like very well done. And it was the kind of work that I hate to do.

[Bobby Lee]

Right.

[Tim Heidecker]

You know, it's. It's like a book report.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

That kind of work. So I think it's kind of good for that kind of stuff.

[Bobby Lee]

Well, that's why like a lot of these lawyers positions are being eradicated through. Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of jobs in that way are going to be eradicated, you know, And I think that, I mean, you're already seeing it with. In China with the robots making the cars. You know what I mean? And I know that we see those little boxes with the little eyes that. Delivering stuff on the street and we don't think anything of it. Of it. They're so cute. Why don't they put eyes on it

[Guest 2]

so I can see?

[Podcast Host 1]

It doesn't scare you. You think it's cute?

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, why? Because when one's like now tumbling and crashing into something, then you feel bad.

[Podcast Host 2]

I do feel bad.

[Bobby Lee]

Are you okay, buddy?

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

I like somebody was saying there's a new driverless car thing that's like more. It feels like you're just sitting in a box. In a box without. There's no steering wheel or there's no pretending that there's a driver. It's just, it's just because you don't really like if in those waymos that's not actually being used.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

You know, that's not.

[Bobby Lee]

There's aesthetics.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah. It's just aesthetics. But I like the idea of like that you're. If you're gonna have that experience. It's.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

That thing.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Like you're not pretending that it's. That it's being controlled by people. It'. Completely.

[Bobby Lee]

It's probably more room.

[Tim Heidecker]

It's more room.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Free.

[Podcast Host 1]

It's free in Vegas. They're in pilots. Amazon owns it.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, Amazon.

[Tim Heidecker]

Oh, yeah. They're gonna believe this whole thing, this insidious pricing thing where it's like, remember when Uber came out, it was like, go to the airport for $15.

[Podcast Host 1]

Don't need a cab.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

And then it's like, now it's $120, you know?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

They, like, let. They get you addicted to it, and then they just go, is it still

[Bobby Lee]

cheaper than a taxi, Dad?

[Tim Heidecker]

I can't tell you. I don't know.

[Bobby Lee]

Can you?

[Podcast Host 1]

Sometimes?

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah. Maybe I'll go back to taxi cabs.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, taxis. I like taxi.

[Podcast Host 2]

I've gone back to taxi cabs.

[Tim Heidecker]

Really?

[Guest 1]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Yes, yes. Jaime, no.

[Guest 2]

Taxi cabs. Taxi.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Guest 2]

That's the good old times.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. Taxi.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Guest 2]

And then some Indian guy.

[Tim Heidecker]

Easy.

[Bobby Lee]

Hello. There's all kinds of people that drive those things.

[Guest 2]

Asians.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, a lot of Asians. Pakistanis.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Irish people.

[Tim Heidecker]

Subcontinental Africans.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, I've had some subconts on that, driving it. Yeah, yeah, I have some subconts. Hello, my friend. But my point is this. Here's. How about this as a thing, their music now in Uber. Okay.

[Tim Heidecker]

What music? Oh, the cab driver's music or the Uber's music?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

One time I went to an Uber and it was like, jesus, pull me in forever. Am I allowed to go? Can you turn that off, please?

[Tim Heidecker]

You are certainly allowed to do that.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

But then you create an awkward situation.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Right. So what would you do in that situation?

[Tim Heidecker]

I would

[Podcast Host 1]

sing along.

[Tim Heidecker]

Just disassociate.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, you disassociate.

[Tim Heidecker]

Look at my phone.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

I had once, I was. I. Because I also play music, and I was at a club and I had a guitar with me, and I got into an Uber, and the guys. And that's always the worst because somebody's like, you know. Oh, you play music?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

What kind of music? And I just. I don't want to talk about what kind of music, you know?

[Bobby Lee]

What kind of music do you play?

[Tim Heidecker]

It's rock music. I say, yeah. And I. And he goes, oh, rock music. And he turns it onto, like, the rock station and blasts it.

[Bobby Lee]

Really?

[Tim Heidecker]

Like, oh, you need. You need. You need rock music Now. I'll take this off for a second.

[Bobby Lee]

I'm turning this off now.

[Podcast Host 3]

Oh, wow.

[Tim Heidecker]

What?

[Bobby Lee]

Your Uber story?

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah, something else. Right.

[Bobby Lee]

And I think I timed it wrong, where I was playing the music during the.

[Tim Heidecker]

Well, you weren't listening to the story.

[Bobby Lee]

I didn't hear a single word of it.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Oh, look at me. Well, that's funny. Why. Where'd that picture.

[Bobby Lee]

Is that you?

[Tim Heidecker]

That's me when I was 16.

[Bobby Lee]

Let me guess. What kind of music here in this band. It's Dream Pop?

[Tim Heidecker]

No, it's Jangle pop. Folky.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Sort of Beatlesque.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I think that you and I would share the same kind of musical taste, probably.

[Tim Heidecker]

You're wearing a talking head shirt. I just saw David Byrne a few weeks, a month or so ago. At Coachella? No, at Big Ears.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

In Knoxville. Where. Where are you from?

[Bobby Lee]

From? I'm from San Diego, California.

[Podcast Host 3]

Oh, okay.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, I'm a huge Talking Heads. You look so handsome, though.

[Tim Heidecker]

Thank you.

[Bobby Lee]

By the way, I. I'm a Talking Heads fan. I believe that you and I. Do you like television?

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah, I'm not a big television fan.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay. But do you like the CBGB days back in the.

[Tim Heidecker]

I mean, that's not my favorite period of music.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, but I like.

[Tim Heidecker]

I'm more of like.

[Bobby Lee]

I think I just lost a job.

[Tim Heidecker]

No, no, I'm not like punk.

[Bobby Lee]

You're not a punk guy? No. Yeah. What are you then?

[Tim Heidecker]

Like, Beatles, Stone. Pink Floyd.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

That's my favorite.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And I want to ask. Yeah. So I want to. So I want to say something.

[Podcast Host 3]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 1]

Kept hearing be.

[Bobby Lee]

I know. So we have a friend here. He's a photographer. His name is Alex. You know, he's the guy in the ball. Right. And he told me that he's. He basically said that Linkin park was better than the Beatles.

[Tim Heidecker]

Right.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

How do you feel about that statement?

[Tim Heidecker]

Everybody's free to have their own opinion about things.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

You hate it.

[Tim Heidecker]

I mean, there's no way to have an. There's no. There's no rigid aestheticism about anything. That's. I would not agree with that. I think we could look at statistics and numbers to prove. Disprove that. We could look at it. If you want to go by. If you want to go by record sales or, you know, cultural impact.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, yeah, I understand that, but the argument with his. He's saying that. What was your argument saying? The mic.

[Podcast Host 1]

I said that the Hybrid Theory. Hybrid Theory album by Linkin park probably sold more albums than the White Album.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, but you have to understand that. That they're clocking it when. When Spotify came out. Right. When you. You don't put in the amount of albums they sold for 30 years before that.

[Podcast Host 1]

Are you sure?

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, yeah. I also just think you cannot. That era. It's like your consumption and buying of albums was very different from the 2000s

[Bobby Lee]

in Lincoln park back then, everyone bought

[Podcast Host 2]

an album exactly like. That was the. I was in high school, I would spend all my money on a lot of CDs at that time.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, at the time. So you're not. You're not that. That Spotify number that you're looking at is in. In the Spotify years of like what we use.

[Tim Heidecker]

What is the question.

[Bobby Lee]

I just made that statement that he said that that Hybrid Theory from Linkin

[Tim Heidecker]

park sold more copies of the White

[Bobby Lee]

Album global sales, Hybrid Theory 32 million

[Tim Heidecker]

and White Album 21 million throughout history. Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

All right.

[Guest 2]

All saying the numbers don't lie, man.

[Tim Heidecker]

I mean that's kind of a random Beatles album to pick.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, that is.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. Can we go? What?

[Podcast Host 1]

You chose that one?

[Bobby Lee]

I chose the White Album.

[Tim Heidecker]

Fair enough.

[Bobby Lee]

Well, that's my favorite one.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

Because I think that the White Album has a different mix of genre music.

[Tim Heidecker]

Oh, for sure.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

You have like Helter Skelter, but then you also have Dear Prudence, you know what I mean? And you have. It's just. It's like you're getting a lot of different genres and they're also opening up experimental wines.

[Tim Heidecker]

I'll tell you what, I will tell you my favorite beat.

[Bobby Lee]

Tell me, tell me, tell me It's

[Tim Heidecker]

a hard day's night night and tell me why and I'll tell you why because we. There's a. I think people of our generation, we tend to look at the early Beatles stuff, the Beatle mania with the. With the mop tops and suits and it's a little old fashioned or it's a little. It's not for us. We like the Six. Do we like the sergeant Peppers and the psychedelic stuff. Right. That. That prime, that 1964 stuff when they were on fire in a way that no other bands ever been. Maybe Elvis, but nobody is just is like where people are weeping openly, screaming and throwing themselves on the ground for them.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

That height.

[Bobby Lee]

Well, you haven't been doing Lincoln park concert.

[Tim Heidecker]

Never got it like this. This was insanity.

[Bobby Lee]

I remember.

[Tim Heidecker]

And the band themselves are like. There's no issues between the four of them. They are. They're like. Like it's the. It's the peak of everything. Everything after that is almost like a little bit of downhill slide. And we catch them in the Hard Days Night album. Their songwriting is unbelievable. Yeah, it's. It's a John centric album.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

But it's. It. The songwriting is through the. Through the roof. They're getting really good in the studio, but it hasn't gotten into like backwards tape loops or anything yet. But it sounds really good. And it's just them at the. As the aspect. As good as they're Ever gonna be.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

As good as they're ever gonna be. Even though they went on and did better things.

[Bobby Lee]

Yes, yes, I see what you're saying.

[Tim Heidecker]

This is as tight as they. This is just. You listen to that album is four guys in one room together and there's a person pressing record.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

And we're hearing. Getting to hear that still to this day.

[Bobby Lee]

Wow.

[Tim Heidecker]

And the. I think it's. There's some songs that, you know, don't age as well, whatever. But it's a very moving experience to listen to that record after all these years. They're 22 years old.

[Bobby Lee]

Wow.

[Tim Heidecker]

What the hell.

[Bobby Lee]

Imagine.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

3:23.

[Bobby Lee]

That's incredible. And also, you know, Beatlemania, if you don't know what that is, it's these women. It was almost as if it was the second coming of Christ. And I don't wanna make.

[Tim Heidecker]

I. I believe John Lennon got in trouble for saying that. He said.

[Bobby Lee]

Did he say that?

[Tim Heidecker]

Well, he said something to the effect about a year or so later said that, you know, we're bigger than Jesus now.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

And he didn't mean it quite that way, but it was like, the kids aren't going to church, they're coming to the rock shows.

[Bobby Lee]

You know, it's, it's, it's. I mean, it'. Chasing after them for miles.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yes.

[Bobby Lee]

In a car. It's.

[Tim Heidecker]

Look at any of the footage from Shea Stadium or the Ed Sullivan Show.

[Bobby Lee]

People are losing their mind.

[Tim Heidecker]

Mass psychosis.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, yeah. Cuz I. You know, the Bieber thing that. You know what I mean?

[Guest 2]

That's big.

[Tim Heidecker]

Oh, this is so great.

[Bobby Lee]

This is great.

[Tim Heidecker]

I mean, it's so great.

[Podcast Host 1]

Crazy. Do you guys think at Michael Jackson's peak, same level or completely different from the Beatles?

[Tim Heidecker]

I wouldn't say completely different, but that guy had some. Was into some weird, though.

[Podcast Host 3]

Oh yeah? Yeah,

[Podcast Host 1]

I think so.

[Tim Heidecker]

Have you looked into that?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

They cut that out of the movie.

[Tim Heidecker]

They're so beautiful.

[Bobby Lee]

I saw the movie.

[Podcast Host 3]

They cut it out.

[Bobby Lee]

They're so beautiful.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

They're so beautiful. Sometimes they make me cry just how beautiful they are.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

And they're just.

[Bobby Lee]

I feel like I feel the same way.

[Tim Heidecker]

I mean, when they look at each other.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

When they look at each other and

[Podcast Host 2]

know you good, I'm good.

[Tim Heidecker]

And know that they. How young they started. They're 15, 16 years old and they worked for 10 years. And they're like. At Shea Stadium, you can see them looking at each other going like, how the. Did this happen.

[Bobby Lee]

Wow.

[Tim Heidecker]

What the fuck is going on?

[Bobby Lee]

Guys, Remember the. The. The pub days?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

You know what I mean? And also they went to Germany. They would go to other places and play these songs. They would grind it out. Yeah, they would grind it out doing cover.

[Tim Heidecker]

There was no guarantees this was going to go anywhere either.

[Bobby Lee]

Pete Best was in the band at the time.

[Tim Heidecker]

Terrible drums.

[Bobby Lee]

Really?

[Tim Heidecker]

Well, that's why they kicked him out.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

He wanted to go to art school. That's what I heard.

[Tim Heidecker]

No.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay.

[Tim Heidecker]

That's the bass player, Stu Sutcliffe.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh.

[Tim Heidecker]

Oh, that is who died of a brain aneurysm.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, wow. I did not know that. Thank you so much for that information. Thank you.

[Tim Heidecker]

Well, now we're in a Beatles podcast.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Because you have to understand that I grew up obsessed with them.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I mean, as a little child, my mom would play them. And Simon and Garfunkel.

[Tim Heidecker]

Love Simon.

[Bobby Lee]

Me too. And.

[Tim Heidecker]

And Art Garfunkel's playing at the old. With the. The Ace Theater.

[Bobby Lee]

Pass.

[Tim Heidecker]

We're obsessed with him. Well, he's a strange bird.

[Bobby Lee]

He is.

[Podcast Host 2]

We're at the Ace.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

I think Paul Simon is at the Hollywood Bowl.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah, It's a little bit.

[Bobby Lee]

No, wait, wait. At the same night?

[Tim Heidecker]

The same night.

[Podcast Host 2]

No, no, no. They're just in la.

[Bobby Lee]

They're coachelling it. You know what I mean? One's on the mainstay, one's in the tent.

[Podcast Host 2]

Exactly.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

But I'm fascinated by Art Garfunkel. I think he's hilarious and strange and I'm.

[Bobby Lee]

Have you met him?

[Tim Heidecker]

No.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Just from his videos. And he's talented guy, very strange bird and very talented. And I can't wait to see what that. Whatever that show is going to be.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Very exciting for me.

[Bobby Lee]

Now, does he sing?

[Tim Heidecker]

No. Singing? No. I'm just kidding, of course.

[Bobby Lee]

Well, I'll be honest with you. I'll tell you. I mean, because one time I bought Blue Re tickets. I think he was gonna sing and he was.

[Tim Heidecker]

Who?

[Bobby Lee]

Lou Reed.

[Tim Heidecker]

Lou Reed?

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

He said Blue Reed. Anyways, doesn't matter. I misheard you continue, Blue Reed.

[Bobby Lee]

I have an Asian accent. Okay. Sometimes it comes out. Yeah, Sorry.

[Tim Heidecker]

Fair enough.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

But anyway.

[Tim Heidecker]

And he just spoke or something and he just wrote.

[Bobby Lee]

He just read poems from his own. I literally thought, oh, he's gonna play music. I show up, there's nothing on stage except for a podium. You know what I mean? And I'm sitting there, and he comes out and he brings out a book. He just reads poems.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And we were still. I was still going, woo.

[Tim Heidecker]

Great poem.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

That one didn't rhyme.

[Bobby Lee]

Because I'm a huge fan. You know what I mean?

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah. A poetry.

[Bobby Lee]

Well, I mean, just to see.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

But I was just like.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

You know what I mean?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I was in high school.

[Tim Heidecker]

I like those kind of things. Like, I saw Nick Cave at the Disney Hall. Disney Hall.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

And it was like, just in conversation kind of. It was like a. He had a piano there and he played songs. But then he did a Q and A. But it was like very. It was. It was not just like a. End of the. It was like part of the show. And it was great because people had great questions. He had great answers. It was just terrific.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Sometimes I, like, love his voice.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Nick Cave's great. Now, you know, we're toward the end of the. The podcast sequence of. Of this program. Okay.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And I want your honest answer.

[Tim Heidecker]

Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

And, you know, sometimes, you know, as comedians, we ham it up and, you know, I mean, and we lean into the comedy of it.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

But sometimes Papa Lee, which is me.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Likes to be real.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And did you have fun today?

[Tim Heidecker]

I did. I did.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay.

[Tim Heidecker]

Genuine.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I think the time flew by.

[Tim Heidecker]

I've got.

[Bobby Lee]

Got.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yes. There's a lot on my plate this week because of what's going on with infowars. A lot of other things happening, and I was a little. I saw this on my schedule. I said, hey, geez, do I. It's got to drive somewhere, and I got to sit somewhere and be away from this for. For a while.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

Is it going to end? I'm very, very happy that I didn't. That I'm here. Very happy.

[Bobby Lee]

Great, great, great. And I'm gl. I'm. I was very excited that you were on the. On the list.

[Tim Heidecker]

Good.

[Bobby Lee]

And huge fan. Do you want any plug in anything right now? Infowars. What else?

[Tim Heidecker]

Infowars Office hours.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

High Network. High Network tv.

[Bobby Lee]

Hyatt Network tv. And why don't we give Tim Heidecker a round of applause? Thank you so much for being here.

[Guest 2]

I have a couple questions.

[Podcast Host 2]

Jaime had some questions.

[Tim Heidecker]

Oh, okay.

[Bobby Lee]

Just real quick. Real quick.

[Tim Heidecker]

Encore.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, real quick.

[Guest 2]

I watched your. The Joe Rogan podcast.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yes.

[Bobby Lee]

Off.

[Guest 2]

Did he get mad?

[Tim Heidecker]

I have not heard. I heard. I didn't hear. I don't know. I can't remember.

[Guest 2]

Okay, okay.

[Bobby Lee]

How was your experience on that Feeling wise when you left?

[Tim Heidecker]

I never did the Joe Rogan podcast.

[Guest 2]

No.

[Tim Heidecker]

I did A parody of.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, you did a parody of it?

[Guest 2]

11 hours.

[Bobby Lee]

11 hours. No.

[Tim Heidecker]

Well, it was a hour and a half that we looped.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

That was my. That's the ultimate. My joke of that was just like, I never know when that show starts and ends and whenever you see it, it just going on.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

No one gets anywhere and there's no. No point.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

It's just a total waste of everyone's time.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Go on, go on.

[Guest 2]

And then me and. Me and Ralph, my best friend, we. We enjoyed your stand up special.

[Tim Heidecker]

Thank you.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, that was really good.

[Tim Heidecker]

Oh, thank you.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

It was like YouTube.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I love it.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Because we get. Got what you. You were doing and you did it perfectly.

[Tim Heidecker]

I heard I was somebody posted in the midst of all this infowars crap was somebody posted their ver. Their negative review of that. And it's really funny how mad it made some people. I get it. You're trying to not be funny and everyone's laughing and it's like, well, but who cares if you're laughing?

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, it doesn't. No, I love it.

[Tim Heidecker]

I get whatever I do to get you to laugh.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

All that matters.

[Bobby Lee]

It's great.

[Tim Heidecker]

Thank you.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I wish I would have brought that up earlier. That was so great.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

I'm glad you like it.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

And didn't take offense because I'm not trying to.

[Bobby Lee]

No. As a stand up, I understand what you do.

[Tim Heidecker]

Right, right.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. I mean, and there's an understanding. Fall and fall. But anyway, circle around. But I. I really do understand your style and that's why such a big fan of yours.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

I appreciate it. So we'll have to get you on our podcast one of these days.

[Bobby Lee]

I would love to do it.

[Tim Heidecker]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I mean, if you would have me, I'd be grateful to do it.

[Tim Heidecker]

We'll sit there.

[Bobby Lee]

One more question.

[Podcast Host 1]

One more.

[Guest 2]

No, just Ralph. He enjoying your special more than specials.

[Bobby Lee]

So his best friend is. Ralph Barboza is a very famous stand up.

[Tim Heidecker]

Really?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

And you don't run that grocery store?

[Guest 2]

No, not yet.

[Bobby Lee]

Not Ralph's.

[Guest 4]

Not yet.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Ralph Barboza is a big fan of yours. Oh, really? And he's a very up and rising, very funny stand up.

[Tim Heidecker]

I have to look out for him.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

So anything else? Is that anything else?

[Guest 2]

Where's Eric?

[Bobby Lee]

No, no, we already did that. Yeah, I know.

[Guest 3]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[Guest 2]

How's Eric? Kids? Yeah.

[Tim Heidecker]

How's Eric's kids? Yeah. He doesn't have any kids. I have two kids.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah? Yeah.

[Guest 2]

How's your kids? Yeah. Are you doing infowars?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay.

[Tim Heidecker]

Anyway, do a little self editing. Thank you.

[Podcast Host 2]

Guys, don't. Shokuluki. Moki salaman faith and mokokani Ay makabali

[Bobby Lee]

shokomoki.