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Pastor Tim
Hallelujah. Has he brought you through some valleys? Hallelujah. God is so good. What a blessing to hear. Thank you, Elder Vicki. Thank you, choir. What a blessing. What a great reminder for us. And yeah, you can go ahead and thank God for them. It's always our joy to not only welcome you right here in the heart of New York City, Times Square Church. What a blessing on 51st and Broadway. God has a lighthouse right in the middle of Times Square. That then we thank God for that. We also want to welcome all those. It's one of my favorite parts to do to welcome all those watching from around the country and around the world. Let me just speak to those that are watching. We are so thankful that you are with us today. We are. We are exceedingly excited for what God is even doing on university campuses. We've been asking those that in each service we're watching different universities. Join us. But let me first welcome those watching in different countries. We want to say hello. Live with us is South Africa. We say hello to Liberia, Angola, Madagascar. We welcome Kenya, Ghana, Uganda. We say hello to Japan, Malaysia, Cyprus, Indonesia and New Zealand. We welcome the uk, North Ireland, Romania, Spain, Hungary. We welcome Ireland, Finland, Italy. Did that come from the heart? Was that from the heart? Sweden, France, Poland, Bulgaria, Germany. And every time we come to these two, we always stop and pray. We welcome Russia and Ukraine. And we believe in Jesus name that God's going to stop that war. God, work a miracle. Work a miracle. We welcome Canada. We welcome those that are part of the first Nation, Navajo Nation, Mexico, St. Kitts and Nevis, Panama, Haiti, Jamaica, the US Virgin Islands, Saint Martin, Barbados, Guatemala, Venezuela, Argentina. We say hello to Suriname and Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. We welcome all of you. Some 28 states. We welcome all of you. And we also welcome some of the first timers with us. We welcome Syracuse University, NYU and Yukon. Would you welcome all those that are watching from over there? I also want to say what a blessing for what you guys have been doing. Child Cry, which you saw happening in Cambodia, was started here by Pastor Carter. That reaches to. I think it's 77 nations. Whenever I'm trying to figure out numbers, I'm always looking to my left to see if I can find Treg and the missions department. 77 Treg. That's right. 77 nations that you are feeding that you. That you have had really have done a tremendous job. And that's one of the works that you've done it. We'll be telling you in the months to come. We're Gonna have a special service to really honor child cry. And over the years that it started, I want to thank you not only for that, but for what you've done for the vision Fund. The things that will be taking place from language channels, what we're doing in Israel, Summit, next generation LED wall, all these things. So we're believing God that, that we are, we are believing. For 24 hour witness on 51st and Broadway. My, my desire is I want to speak to all the other LED walls that are here and tell them that Jesus is alive. So that's what our goal is on those LED walls. God did not put us here to have services. We're gonna, we're 24. I'm just telling you, I just want you to listen. We are from. We're going to wrap this building. We're going to. All of our signage will be led that we're going to begin to speak to this city that Jesus is alive. I'm just telling you. I know it's coming. One of my favorite things that's happening that we have to tell you about is we are getting ready today. We have on our language channels, we have two more that are, that are going to be released in the upcoming months. Hebrew and Indonesia is ready to go. But today, today we release our 12th language channel. Today we welcome Germany and our German channel. That will start today. Thank you for all that you're doing. I have to show you, I'm going to show you two videos. One is I'm going to show you just what it looks like when those go on there. You didn't know that I knew German and all these things you'll see that take place. But right after that, after you're done laughing at my German accent, I want you to then to pay attention to the screen. You're going to see one of our translators. She's not, it's a woman. She's not translating me, but she is helping with making sure the accuracy of it goes into the language. Elijah is, is going to speak to you from Germany and what God has done through the channel with. And, and she, she came across us three years ago and is working online with us. But I want you to see German channel Awaij. And then we're going to pray for Germany. Look, look at the screen. So just before we pray, I'm going to ask Thomas, would you come out? So Thomas came here in 2009, got saved at Times Square Church. He's from Munich, Germany. And Thomas worked with our. After he got saved, then he started Working with our new believers. And now he leads one of our connect groups online and that meets every weekday at 6am and you guys are reading through the Bible. Your connect group is reading through the Bible in a year. I'm going to ask now, Tom, Thomas is going to pray in German for Germany. And so you may sit here and go like, well, we're not going to understand it. As long as God understands it, it's not for you. It's refraining to heaven. So this is your opportunity. If you're filled with the spirit, pray in tongues, pray in English, pray in any language. But we're going to pray for Germany. Would you believe with me as Thomas prays for revival in that nation? Thomas, would you?
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Thomas
Amen. And I just want to give a big shout out to my online hosts and online prayer team and to the online congregation. Guys, we love you so much. You have no idea. And I want to say hello to my mom who's watching now. And so I love you too, Mom. We are bitten dasto den canal nuts Omen Deutschland oesterreich der Schweitz on in all Deutsch Brahinge. Amen.
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Pastor Tim
Amen. Thank you. Thomas, I'm going to ask you. Barry will just stay for a second. I'm going to ask you to be seated. You've been standing for a long time. And then, and then when we pray, I may have you stand up one more time. But just be seated for now for a second. I want to just talk to you about what, what I want to share with you about. And then we just need to pray and then I'll dismiss the choir as soon as we're done praying. When truth is preached from a pulpit, then the truth, then the church is a place where God, I want you to understand, not only intervenes, but interferes in our lives when we're not preaching and there's no interference, we begin to have these wrong expectations when we come to church. And I'm gonna explain that in a second. Always keep this in mind. There will never be an impact unless there is first a collision. You have to. And this is, this is so important, the collision, the interference of God. There is a woman at a well in John chapter four, had a collision with Jesus. He interferes with her life. Jesus meets an immoral, immoral woman going from man to man, trying to find love and acceptance. And then she finally meets Jesus. And there's the collision. There's. And the impact is just about to take place. This is what she said. That just astounded Me, she said. So the woman left her water pot. This is after her meeting with Jesus, the collision, the interference went to the city and said to the men, listen to these words. Church, she said, come see a man who told me all the things that I have done. Look at those words for just a moment. She didn't say, come see a man that told me all my good points and affirmed my way of living. He told me everything about me, she said. He told me everything. My faults, my sins, my past. In other words, she said, come see a man who. Who told me the truth. That's the collision where the impact then of Christ comes. Feeling better has become more important to us than finding God. Feeling better, or as somebody put it this way, says we can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark. But the real tragedy of life is when people are afraid of the light. That's the work. When God shows up and starts putting his life. That's the collision. That's the. That's. That's the interference that takes place. Jesus shined light on this woman in John, chapter four. So that's why the goal of the church today. The goal. The goal. Here we want the presence of Jesus. Here we want Jesus. When Jesus shows up, can I just tell you, there's going to be an interference. He is going to intervene and interfere. And that's why I just felt so strongly. Just before we pray, I want to talk to you about this. Who says you have to leave church happy every Sunday? Buckle up, folks. It's going to get intense in here. Who says you have to leave church happy every. Not when Jesus and you are on a collision course? I'll explain what that means. Stand with me one more time and we're going to begin to pray. And so we. And then we'll dismiss the choir. Father, in these next few moments, we're praying that your presence comes. That's all I'm asking for. We need your presence. Let your presence fill this place. I pray that God, I know what you put on my heart. Help me to articulate it. The way you have spoken it, may it be fathered directly from your word. May there be no ambiguity. But God would be in this place. Let men and women, young people, old people, let all of us, those from a different country, from a different state. I pray that God, you would have ordained this time that there is going to be a collision with them and God and an impact is going to take place. You have interfered with their schedule. For them to be here or for them to watch online You've interfered with the schedule that those would be watching from Russia and Ukraine. You're going to interfere with lives in Germany. I believe over these years to come. You're going to interfere with those from the Philippines and those from Barbados. You're going to interfere with those from Venezuela. You're going to interview. Intervene. Oh God. In lives in the uk, in Ireland, and you're going to move in Sweden and Bulgaria. Lord God. So, Father, today from. From Lima to Los Angeles. Lord God. Father, I believe that God, you'd move from Dallas all the way here to New York City, that you'd move in Ottawa and Toronto and go all the way down into Mexico City. Let your Holy Spirit come, intervene, interfere and bring impact into our lives. And we thank you for it. In Jesus name and everybody said amen. Now, this is the 1 o'. Clock. Before you sit down, I've got to dismiss the choir. The screen will come down, but you have to greet at least three or four people and give them the biggest New York City smile you can and just go ahead, greet someone around you choir. Thank you. God bless you. You guys are awesome. Thank you, guys. Jesus, I don't believe is obligated to make you or me happy, but he has to give us the truth. Let me explain because this is incredible and this is important because get this down. Truth sets free, Freedom brings joy and joy gives strength. I don't need to be happy. I need joy. But that doesn't come unless truth comes first. Truth sets free, freedom brings joy and joy gives strength. Let me say it again. Truth sets free, freedom brings joy and joy gives strength. The joy of the Lord. The Bible says is your strength to come to church with an expectation to say, every time I come in, I want to be affirmed and be happy. May be wrong and false, not maybe is because the goal is if we come, the mission is to leave with truth, to leave with freedom, to. To leave with joy and to leave with strength. That's what I want. There was a young man in the Bible in which we are given no name for him. But we do know three things. We know his socioeconomic status. We're told about his age and even his climb to the top of the corporate world. He was rich, he was young, and he was a ruler. The Bible calls him the rich young ruler. And this was his story that stopped me this week as I was thinking and praying about what I was to share today. Listen to these words. As he was setting out on a journey, a man ran up to him speaking a young man, this rich young ruler ran up to Jesus, knelt before him and asked him, good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? Jesus said to him, why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. You know the commandments. Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not bear false witness, do not defraud, honor your father and your mother. And he said to him, teacher, I have kept all these things from my youth up. If the story stops here, it's an amazing story and everything has changed. But Jesus wouldn't let it go. And the Bible says, looking at him or gazing at him, Jesus felt a love for him and said, one thing you lack, go and sell all you possess. One thing, just go, sell all that you possess. Possess. Give to the poor and you will have what you've been looking for, treasure in heaven and come. And I want you not to forget these words. Come, follow me. Those were the words that were given to the disciples to follow Jesus. Come, follow me. Some believe that this man was being asked to become even a disciple here. But at these words he was saddened and he went away grieving, for he was one who owned much property. The rich young ruler ran up to him, knelt before him, addressed him correctly, and even asked the right question. But see, everything was fine until Jesus opened up his mouth. He interfered with this man's life. Listen to the words. But at these words, Jesus words, he was saddened and he went away grieving. Can actually you hear from Jesus and you don't leave happy? Can you show up at church and hear the voice of God, God speaking to you? Whether it's a still, small voice or maybe through some instrument that God uses up here, and you leave saddening. Well, it's here. His expectations were that Jesus would affirm him but not interfere with him. That he would affirm what he was already doing, but not that Jesus would have an opinion on it and even come against anything that he was doing. And that's always the challenge. If you're looking for a place to affirm or you're looking for a place to interfere, this is what Jesus is wanting to do in his church today. A church that just simply affirms has an agenda, but a church that interferes and allows the presence of God to show up is the church where the presence of God is there. Pastor Carter told me a story that before the pandemic, the number one porn star actor got saved at these altars. When they get saved, he said. Pastor Carter told me he was speaking to the Young man who was at the top of that world in that business, and he asked him this question, is what I'm doing wrong?
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Co-Pastor or Assistant Speaker
He said it was honest. Here's a man who was getting saved.
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Pastor Tim
Am I doing what's wrong? He had no idea in the culture that he lived in that this. That this was. That this was right or wrong. And he did not know that young man did not know that the Holy Spirit was about to interfere with his life. This is what happens when God's presence shows up. There's going to be an interference. The word saddened means gloomy and threatened. The word grieving, all these two words. This is the way the young man left the words of Jesus. The word grieving means to be hurt, distressed, and even to feel crossed. How can that happen? Well, you just met Jesus, who is.
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The way, the truth and the life.
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Pastor Tim
And something has hit the church today that Jesus can't say anything to sadden.
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Us or offend us.
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Pastor Tim
Then if that's the case, you haven't met the resurrected Jesus just yet.
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Let me be clear.
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Pastor Tim
I'm just telling you from my own personal life, he doesn't seem to leave me alone.
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Jesus interferes in everything.
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Pastor Tim
Anybody feel that same way? Some days I feel like he's picking on me. I said, there's so many other people that are worse than me.
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Go after them.
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Pastor Tim
Go after Ricardo, but not me. I met right over here last week a woman who's come from a Hindu background. And she told me she's been on a journey to find God, to find truth. And that journey has stopped here at tsc. This is where the stop on her journey. And I asked, I said, can I pray with you that this is the last stop. And this is what I prayed with her. I said, God, she is at a crossroads. And I said, let her take the road that she sees the living, resurrected Jesus, that she goes down the road where the living, resurrected Jesus is. See, get this. Now. Truth will interfere with your politics. Ooh, he's already going there. We're 10 minutes into a message, and you can't leave well enough alone. Truth will interfere with your traditions. Truth. Truth will interfere with your preconceived ideas. Truth will interfere with your ethnicity. Truth will interfere with your upbringing. When you meet Jesus, he will interfere in every single area of our lives.
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Folks, if we want truth, then there's freedom.
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Pastor Tim
When there's freedom, then there's joy. And when there's joy, God gives strength. And that's why you have to start with truth, not happiness. Truth that's why I'm just telling you, as a church, we will pray for the peace of Jerusalem because it's truth. The Bible says in Genesis 12:3 that.
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Those who will bless you shall be blessed.
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Pastor Tim
So it doesn't matter what's being said on social media or a protest that's in our neighborhood.
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If it's true, then there's freedom. If it's freedom, then there's joy. And if there's joy, God will give.
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Pastor Tim
Us the strength to do what he's asked us to do. Those who miss the interference of God, who will not allow the interference of the Holy Spirit, begin to borderline or live towards a backslidden life. Your mindsets and views, listen to me. Are uninterrupted, ignored and even overlooked. Here's if Jesus is present, get ready. Because there will be days like that rich young ruler that he will speak and he will talk to you and you and there will be a fight. At times this young man was in a fight of his life. This verse was amazing to me. I just read it yesterday and I walked over to Cindy. I said, cindy, I have to show you something from Proverbs 14. She goes, I was reading Proverbs 14. I said, I want to read it to you though from the living Bible. She goes, I was just reading the living Bible. So here's what we were both reading yesterday. Listen to these words in Proverbs 14:14. The backslider gets bored with himself. The godly man's life is exciting. I like that. It's. Think about that. When Jesus is part of our lives, he will run that interference. And it's. There's an excitement there. Godliness is exciting, but. But it threatens things that we may hold onto. It will go after it because he's trying to bring growth. And growth means maturity. Keep this in mind. You are young only once, but you can be immature a long time. And this is why he runs interference. The immature are those that think that if they're not happy that they better send an email or a letter or get find another church if they're disagreed with or what's being said. I feel threatened and I want to go just read the rich young ruler. If Jesus is there, you will feel threatened by Jesus. If Jesus is there, he will interfere with some of the things you hold onto. That's what he does. He wants to bring us to truth. I want to show you a man in the Bible that God had to interfere with. And I'm going to show you the result of interference. I want to show you the growth of John for just a second, I want you to see what the Bible lays out about this man. You have to see this. Number one. John had a violent temper. Listen to these words. James and John were the sons of Zebedee. But Jesus called them the Sons of Thunder. Look at me for a second. That wasn't a compliment. This wasn't a gang. He's going, let's start a gang and get jackets and put on the back. Sons of Thunder. Jesus, that nickname was, he was starting. The interference that Sons of Thunder actually means was, was they had a trigger switch. They were full of anger. These were angry at two angry brothers. They didn't, wouldn't want to cross through the Lincoln Tunnel here in New York City. They wouldn't want to drive in the traffic in this city. They wouldn't want to wait in line. These, these are people that would have road rage. These are them. These are the sons of thunder. They. Somehow this phrase began to characterize them. They were violently tempered at anything that could be said. It would be an argument, it would blow up. It was volatile. We all know people like that don't raise any hands right now. Just listen. He was a self seeking man. Listen to these words. Then James and John, these are the sons of thunder. The sons of Zebedee came over and spoke to him. And in a low voice, they didn't want anybody else to hear. Master, they said, we want you to do us a favor. What is it? He asked. We want to sit on the thrones next to yours in the kingdom. And they said, one at your right and the other at your left. Look at this. This is unbelievable. Do you know what Jesus was doing at this time? Jesus was talking about his cross and his death and his resurrection. And they were interested in the seating chart of heaven. That's what they were doing. Jesus is going, I'm going to die. I'm going to be a ransom for the whole world. I'm going to lay down my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, let's talk about where we're seating at in heaven. That's. Yeah, we get that. Death, resurrection. Woo, Pentecost. Where are we going to be when the seating chart comes in heaven? Seriously, Talk about self seeking and self serving. The two sons of thunder, violently tempered, they were. They were men that were selfish, couldn't care less about a death and a resurrection. And they were also prejudiced men. When Samaria would not let Jesus pass through to Jerusalem. Look what John does and says about these Samaritan people. Luke 9. When the disciples, James and John saw this, that they wouldn't let them pass by, they said, lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven? Look at this. To destroy them.
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I'm gonna go. This is who this is?
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Pastor Tim
These are your guys? Jesus, he's going like, okay, yeah. They crossed you. Okay, you want us to kill them? Seriously. James and John, so violently tempered, self seeking prejudice. Talk about narrow minded. How about this one? Mark 9:38. Teacher said, John, we saw someone driving out demons in your name. And we told him to stop because he was not part of our denomination. Look at this right now. He was not one of us. He wasn't part of our group. He didn't wear the same label as we do. So therefore he must not be right. My goodness. John was selfish. John was prejudiced. John was narrow minded. John was angry.
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And here's the crazy part. But John was a disciple of Jesus. Seriously, this is the guy. He's handpicked by Jesus with those characteristics. I'm reading this and I'm going, you picked him, Jesus, this is your guy. And you call.
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Pastor Tim
Let me read to you the story. Jesus was walking beside the Sea of Galilee. He saw two brothers, Simon called Peter and brother Andrew. They were casting an ed into the lake, for they were fishermen. Come, follow me. Same words to the rich young ruler, come, follow me. Jesus said, I will send you out to fish for people. And at once they left their nets and followed him. That was the first set of brothers called, second set of brothers. Going on from there, he saw two other brothers, James and John, sons of Zebedee's brother John. They were in a boat with their father Zebedee, preparing their nets. Jesus called them and immediately they left the boat and their father and followed him. This was the calling of Jesus. With these characteristics, with these shortcomings, with this issue. This is who Jesus calls. And four times I was reading through the Gospel, through the Gospel of John. He's called a disciple. Look at this. John 12:32. He's one of his disciples. This is after all this stuff, after all of his shenanigans. John 21:7, the disciple whom Jesus loved. John 21:20. It says, the disciple whom Jesus loved, John 19:26, the disciple. He loved my goodness. In the midst of all this, in the midst of anger, in the midst of the short tempered, in the midst of self seeking and selfishness, in the midst of prejudice, in the midst of this man that you would begin to be so narrow minded that doesn't see the kingdom Even larger. Jesus says, that's my disciple. That's the one I'm working with. See, discipleship or disciple means you are growing and welcoming the interference of God. If John was a disciple, I'm telling you, like this rich young ruler, there was going to be sad days that Jesus was going to come in and go, we have to deal with this. Jesus would go after the selfishness, the prejudice, the exclusivity and his anger. He couldn't be in the presence of Jesus and be happy at the same time if Jesus was going after this. Listen to these incredible words of an author that has had a great impact on my life and has really impacted so many lives. CS Lewis, when he came to faith, said these words. He says, I didn't go to religion to make me happy. I knew a bottle of wine could do that. If you want a religion to make you feel really comfortable, I don't recommend Christianity. You know why?
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Cause he'll run interference. If you're sitting here today and you have never been picked on by the.
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Pastor Tim
Holy Spirit, I'm praying it starts today.
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I am.
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Pastor Tim
I'm praying that because I don't want to be the only one. I'm going to do something that I. That I wasn't sure that I was going to do. It's not. There's no. There's no defensiveness. I'm just wanting to bring clarity. I'm doing it because it's interfering truth. And when I was reading this story, I said, I do want to speak to it. Not for anything else, because I feel like it's important for me to say. Friday, Cindy and I flew to Detroit and came back Saturday, and we went back to celebrate 35 years of the church that we started in 1990 in a triple X movie theater that's still going on today and thriving today. 35 years, folks. The testimonies, to hear them at this, at the venue, the testimonies of changed lives, to see the saved marriages, the calling of God, to see children of the people that got saved who are called into the ministry now. Our hearts were moved. It was emotional to me, and it was emotional to be asked to come and speak to these amazing people who. I knew them. I knew them when they got sick. I saw them grow to see the miracles, to see what God was doing inside of their lives. I have to tell you as a side note that I was telling some of our leaders today. I said to stand back after 35 years and to think of the fights that we had to wage war against, to see God work in people's lives. I'm just telling you to see. To see what God had to do. There was a fight in the Holy Spirit to. To see God intervene and interfere with people's lives. And here's what I realized. It was worth it. The fight was worth it. And to stand back and to see it. And I'm telling you today, you may be in a fight with God, you may be in a fight with truth today, but I'm telling you, whether you're a leader, whether you're a pastor, wherever you're watching from around the world, it's worth it. I'm on this side of it 35 years later, and I see the fruit of the battle. And it came true. God did work a miracle. I was. It was incredible to see what God and folks, we were. You know, we're so naive. We just wanted to do what God. If God said it, we did it. I was. I would told them stories that they never heard before. When we first started, we had a whole coven of witches that came against us. They were casting spells on us, and they were joining online against us. So, folks, I don't know if it was God or not. I said, okay. I said, are you able to pinpoint where these witches are? And they're all in the area. I said, let's do a dinner for the witches. And I said, and we're gonna have an opportunity to fast and pray. Bring them all here. And I'm going. And in my mind, I'm saying it. I'm going, what was I thinking at that moment? But I do know that the name of Jesus. All I knew is this. Jesus is the name above every other name. That's all I knew. Jesus is that name. When I got up to speak, they put a picture of me when I first started the church. And thank God he intervened. I had a mullet. And thank God he came, he intervened, interfered, and said, cut that off. And so thank God. I started the church at 27 years old, and now I'm 61 years old. And I was thinking about the cassette ministry we started. I don't know if any of you know what a cassette is. Anybody know where the cassette is? My daughter went into a my desk when she was in elementary school. She goes, what is this? I said, that's a cassette. What do you do with this? I said, it's like itunes in a box, but you can only have 15 songs. I said, that's all you're allowed to have. We had a cassette ministry, and I want to Just say this publicly. Thank God, thank Jesus, thank the Father, thank the Son, thank the Holy Ghost that you can access any of those sermons. When I think about what I preached, how I preached what I did, thank God for the first five years. But God had been interfering with my life, my leadership. For these last 42 years in ministry, he's been going after things in my life. There's been truth, there's been freedom, there's been joy, and there has been strength. God has gone after it. He has dealt with stuff inside of me. And so that's why on this journey, sometimes you couldn't see it. Some of you are here. You watch a journey with people that are here or myself, and you only see five years, but you don't see the progress. You don't see what God is doing. When I think of John and I think of what God had to deal with and the work that he had to do, thank God he stayed with him. But here we go. I'm not the same man today as was when I started at 27 or the first four to five years when I was 31 years old. I've been walking with Jesus a long time, and he has been interfering with a lot of stuff and still interferes today. I'm reminded of the words, a question from a prophet, Amos, a rhetorical question. When he asks about you and a relationship with God and refers to it as walking together. And he speaks to the. To a group of people that were in an interference battle with God. And he asked this rhetorical question, he goes, can two walk together unless they're agreed, can two take a journey and they're fighting on that journey? And the answer is no. So when Jesus and I disagree, he wins. If you've changed in any areas, it's from his interfering presence, not from walking with Jesus. It's amazing to watch because he'll come in and start to deal with stuff that's there. Let me be for a moment. I want to revisit something. I want to give you two words that are going to be very controversial today. Okay, sit up. And I know some of you are already going, like, get the phone out, because we can post this. You can. Two very controversial words. Because I think you need to hear this today. I want to bring up the words, Charlie Kirk, for a second. I want you to listen to me for a moment. Listen. And I understand. I get letters, I get emails, I get phone calls. It's amazing to hear all the different sides and everything else that comes. And I know, listen, I love you that are watching online. And I just know there are people immediately, as soon as you say it, hands go up and they're ready on the keyboard, they're going. Just say, I'm ready to go, I'm ready to type. Just listen just for a moment. I want you to listen. Listen carefully for those that have that as we're speaking to this, his name came to my heart as I was thinking about this and thinking about how even in the church, all of a sudden everybody seems to be up in arms. Some people are going like, way to go, Pastor Tim Fervir. And others are going like, I can't believe I get it. Just listen for a moment though. I talked about, I've talked about how do you live in a world when truth is murdered? That's what I spoke about. How do you live in a world where truth is murdered? I didn't talk about politics, but I talked about theology because I was not qualified to speak on the politics part. But I was on the theology of Charlie Kirk. Everyone's issue was, they kept bringing to me was the political part. And here's the part I kept thinking as I was preparing this message. This is not, this is not passive aggressive, this is not defensiveness. This is none of those things. But it became real to me when I thought about John the Beloved, a man that was in the presence of God. And this is what I thought. When a man's theology is right, then God will interfere with his worldviews and get them right. Okay, look at me for a second because while you're arguing over going, but he says he, if he's walking with God, God will bring him to the right place. So before you start leveling, okay, you're already typing. I can hear it in my heart. Listen, if you, how does God take a quick tempered man, a prejudiced man, a self seeking man and a narrow mind man and do something. Listen to me careful. I have hope, as I did for myself at 31 years old. Oh my goodness, I'm 30 years later and I'm still being interfered with. But God is helping me.
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And thank God he didn't give up on the apostle John. And thank God he hasn't given up on you. And it's in this place today. Listen, I'm not upset. I'm not looking at emails and going like, oh, I'm.
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Pastor Tim
Listen. But we judge so wrongly. Let's assume for just a moment if your worldview is right and Charlie Kirk's is wrong, just assume it. Let's do this. If you Were Jesus. Oh Lord, help us. But let me just say that if you were Jesus, would you look at me for a second? You would never have chosen Charlie Kirk to, to be your disciple. You would look for people that think the way you do. Okay, get ready. Look at me. Because some of you are already seething good. This is a good church. Okay, listen to me. Let me tell you why this is important. Do you understand who Jesus put on his team? He picks a tax collector who are traitors to Israel. They're taking money from the Jewish people.
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Then he takes a zealot who wants to kill the tax collectors. So he says, Simon the zealot. Matthew, you sit at the table.
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Pastor Tim
Then I'm going to take these two guys, John and James, who had a trigger switch. You say something at the board meeting, they're going to go off. Peter, he can't keep his mouth shut.
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How about Thomas? I don't know if we should be here.
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Pastor Tim
I don't even know why I decided that I'm going to do this. I can't believe. Or what about the disciple in John, chapter 11, when Jesus goes, okay, let's go to see Lazarus goes, okay, let's go, let's go and die with him.
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Can you imagine?
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Pastor Tim
And the other.
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So that's his group. And he says, these are the ones that I'm going to use to change the world. Unbelievable. Folks, listen to me. If a disciple is self seeking, prejudice, angry and narrow minded, I'm okay, Jesus will interfere, fear and begin to deal with these areas. My fear, My fear is when he's not interfering. I don't need you to match me and I'm not gonna match you. But I will match what this book says and what he says to me.
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Pastor Tim
Let me say it again if the theology is right. What do you mean by theology, Pastor Jim? Okay, get ready. Okay, here it comes. It's built on these words. So let me pretend I'm smart for a second. There's soteriology. It's the study. Oh, I have to tell you this crazy thing. When we went to Detroit, we got up 3:30 in the morning, caught a 6am flight, flew to Detroit. So we needed to get a cup of coffee, going to Starbucks. And some guy looks at me 20 years later, he goes, hey, we went to seminary together. I said, how do you even know that? I said, I had a mullet back then. How would you even know without a mullet? I just couldn't believe it. But these are the words that they drop on you. Soteriology is the Study of salvation. Bibliology. The study of the Bible. Hermetology. The study of sin. Christology. The study of Christ. Pneumatology. The study of the Holy Spirit. Eschatology. The study of the end times. If those are together are growing, God.
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Will intervene and interfere with faulty worldviews. Okay, what do you mean by okay?
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Pastor Tim
So let's, for my sake, for my sake, I wrote this down. Let me, let me dumb down these words. For me, the big words. What's good Christology. Jesus is God and came in human flesh.
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What is good Hermetology. I am a sinner. And sin, Sin is inside of me. What is good Soteriology. There's only one way to heaven and it's through Jesus's sacrifice on the cross. What is good? Pneumatology. The Holy Spirit is the third member of the Trinity and he lives inside of me and is active. What is good Bibliology? It means that this is the word of God. It's trustworthy and without error. And what is good? Eschatology? Jesus is coming back again. There is a heaven, there is a hell. And we will stand before God. So when you judge somebody who doesn't think like you. Remember John. Remember the sons of thunder.
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Pastor Tim
I have to say this part. We seem to remember what a mess we were before we came to Christ. But we forget what a mess we are after we came to Jesus. I have to say that again because some of you just. Okay, look at me. We remember. Yeah, I was bad. I did. I hear it all the time. You don't know. You wouldn't believe. Okay, can I tell you that after you got saved, you're still messed up. How many? How many go? Yeah, that's true. Hold your hand up and look at the person next to you and say, yeah, just say we're messed up. But here's the good news. He's fixing us.
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He's interfering with us. He's helping us. He's doing his work.
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Pastor Tim
So here's how we finish. As the band comes. When you stay close to the heart of Jesus, you will end up in the right place. Place you'll end up at the heart. When you get to the heart of Jesus and the cross of Jesus, you have to see what happens. John is in this amazing place in his relationship with Christ. Three years later. So remember the angry, prejudiced, narrow minded, self seeking man finds himself at the most important place on the end of Jesus life. John 13:23. There was reclining on Jesus bosom on his breast, one of the disciples whom Jesus loved Look at me for a second. You know what happens when you lean on the breast of Jesus? You get to hear his heartbeat. You get to hear what, what makes his heart beat faster. You get to hear what he what, what begins to do something in the heart. He's found that, that, that. Folks, there's more in resting and hearing the heart of Jesus than looking on TikTok and face a gram and instabook and just go ahead and just look. Can I just say something? You better. As a believer, especially today, you better hear the heart. And who cares what all of these keyboard warriors are saying? It doesn't matter. Hear what the heart of Jesus is and when you do that, you'll find yourself in the place you're supposed to be. Where John was when everyone else left. The Bible says in John 19, near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother's sister Mary, the wife of Clopas and Mary Magdalene. And when Jesus saw his mother there, the disciple whom he loved. That's John. That's John standing nearby at the cross. Everybody else is gone. Woman, here is your son. And to the disciple, that's John, he said, here is your mother. From that time on, the disciple took her to his home. He would entrust, he would say, I hear your heartbeat and I want to do what you've asked me to do. Interfere in anything that you want to. What a transformation. The angry self seeking exclusivity and prejudiced man is now closest to Jesus has been entrusted with the mother of Jesus so many times we define immature as non Christian. There's no way you would have said John as a disciple if Jesus didn't pin him as a disciple. You couldn't read those four stories about John and say he's walking with Jesus, he's one of the 12. It's impossible. You couldn't have done it. But thank God you're not Jesus and I'm not Jesus. He saw what we couldn't see in that man. That's why Samuel Rutherford, one of the great 17th century writers, said it like this. Listen to these words. Praise God for the hammer, the file and the furnace. The hammer molds us, the file sharpens us and the fire tempers us. He says, listen, there'll come a hammer. Many times the word. Jeremiah calls the word a hammer. There'll come a file. The Holy Spirit will start taking off those sharp edges and then the furnace, the difficulties. The hammer will mold us. It's the sharpening and it's the tempering without the interference of Jesus, folks, it Just what happens is you just get crazy Christians. I'm sorry. There was thousands of people last week expecting Jesus to come back on September 23rd. Come on. Some guy, some guy, some guy says, I met with Jesus, and he said he's coming back on. This is my favorite part. He goes, on September 23rd or the 24th.
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Seriously, like you met with J. I.
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Pastor Tim
Can just see Jesus going, I'm coming back on the 23rd, maybe the 24th.
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No, come on.
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Pastor Tim
That's not how it works. And then, folks, it even got even worse. Someone on our staff sent me, there's a church down south that was selling plots of land in heaven for a hundred dollars for every 100 square foot. For a hundred dollars. I'm sorry. A hundred dollars per square meter. Come on. I looked at my wife, I said, jesus said the Father, he didn't entrust that knowledge to the angels or to me. Only the Father in heaven knows. And this other guy, of the only two people that know, that doesn't. Neither does it. Because when you. When you. When you're not part of the hammer, the file, and the furnace, folks, then we. Crazy stuff happens. You know why? You know why the word of God comes? You know why he interferes? It's that we're not making predictions. Do you know why he interferes? So we're not selling plots of land in Heaven. I just. I don't. I don't understand it. I laugh when, you know, even. Even non Christians going like, they're talking about the universe and going like, hey, we come to us, give us $100, and we'll name a star after you. I want to tell them. I want to say, well, Isaiah says he's already named them. So isn't that like identity fraud? Isn't that like you've just stolen what belongs to him already? I just. I don't understand that. But when you find Christ, he will interfere. Just give him time. Don't judge before you want to judge somebody and go like, oh, look. Look at that. Look at that. Stop. God's working with them. Can I show you what happens just a few years later with John? John visits the same village of Samaria in Acts chapter 8 as he did in Luke 9, Luke 9, and Acts chapter 8. He's a different man, though. The man is talking to Samaritans in a whole different way. This is the man that has been interfered with. Listen to these words. When the apostles in Jerusalem heard the. That the people of Samaria, the ones that wouldn't let Jesus pass through had accepted God's message. They sent Peter and John. I can see John. I can see him looking at the list. Okay, the two people going today to Samaria is Peter and John. And John's going, oh, look at. Look what happens. As soon as they arrived, they prayed for these new believers to receive the Holy Spirit. He just. Look at me for a second. He just got which fire wrong? He thought he was going to send fire to kill them. It was a fire to fill them. Look at this. The Holy Spirit had not yet come upon them, for they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus and Peter and John. I love. Keep seeing his name laid hands upon these believers, and they received the Holy Spirit. The people he wanted to die are now the people he's praying for. Because Jesus has interfered with his life. Interfered. Interfered with his prejudice. He came through. This is what God does. Folks, think about this for just a second. Stand with me for just a moment as we get ready to close, because he's interfering with some of you right now. Pastor Carter and I talked in between services, and he said, I have to tell you a story. Text me. He goes, oh, thank you. Thank you. It's challenged today. Pastor Teresa and I were watching. He says, call me. I want to tell you a story. So I called him. So I was in a room, and we were. We were talking. He goes, I was. I was at this pulpit, he said, a few years before the pandemic, I think he said. He goes, I saw a young lady sitting on the front row. He said, when the worship would happen. He said, I would watch her. When it would hit a moment like when you're singing Goodness of God. He said, I'd watch this pretty young lady. She'd fall on her knees and just begin to worship. There was an intensity. He said, it was visible. And the pastors used to sit over here. And he goes, it was noticeable. He said. Then she came to me. This is the interference. Listen carefully. It was the interference. So then she came to me backstage, and she goes, I don't know what to do with this. He said, what is it? She goes, I'm in one of the shows on Broadway, and I feel like maybe God's saying for me not to be in that show. And she told Pastor Carter about the show. Pastor Carter goes, I didn't tell her what to do. I said, you have to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit. He said, maybe that show is not the testimony you're supposed to have. She said, okay, okay. He said, she made no decision and he saw her months later. He said, she was sitting three rows back now and hands would be up. Occasionally she came backstage and she said, I'm just. I'm still struggling. Would God take away my dream to be an actress on Broadway? Would God actually do that? Would God be asking that? He goes, you've got to ask what the Holy Spirit is wanting you to do. She goes, okay, I'll do that. Then he told me, he said, then he found her four months later. She's sitting all the way in the back and just standing there. He met with. She said, can I talk to you? Said, I just can't see God doing that. I just can't see that. I just don't. He said, obviously God's not. God is after something that you just won't let go. And this is what he told me. He said, tim, he said, the last time I saw her some years ago was in Starbucks. And when I walked in, she pretended that she didn't see me. She couldn't let. It's the rich young ruler that. Just one thing. Let this go, let this go, let this go, let this go. And folks, look at me for a second when he's running interference. When he's running interference. To continue to put that down and not respond to that. Can I just tell you what happens? Here it is. Let me read it to you one more time. Here it is. The backslider gets bored with himself. The godly man's life is exciting. I'm telling you, folks know what godliness means? Godliness means Jesus has been interfering with your life. That's what it means. I'm just telling you. He is picking at me. He is going after stuff. And I'm just telling you. And I thank God for it. Because those that get bored with their backslidden life begin to set themselves up and make up things and go after stuff and everything else. I don't have time for that because I am a job in itself. When people have time to go after everybody else, I'm going, then you must not be. You must. You must have the first and second seat next to Jesus in heaven. Because I'm going, how do you have all this time to go after everybody else, but all of a sudden you're not dealing with your own life. I've got too much to deal with. I'm going, God, deal with me. I need his interference in my life. Folks, I'm just going to tell you this. If I'm sitting on the front row and he says, stop doing this. I'm not getting to the third row. No offense. Third row. I'm not getting to the third row.
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Get me there.
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Pastor Tim
Forget the back row. No offense. You can love Jesus back there. And I'm not going to Starbucks. God bless you. I love a good cup of coffee.
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I'm getting it right there. I want God to speak to me. This is what it says. This is why we have to obey. He says, you believe that there is one God. He says, you do. Well, even the demons believe that, but the difference is they tremble. I don't want to just believe. I want to believe to the moment that I'm going, oh, God, this is.
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Pastor Tim
What I got to do.
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If we know what the shivering is.
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Pastor Tim
You know what the trembling is. It means he's interfering. That's what he's doing.
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My goodness.
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Pastor Tim
The demons believe and it affects them.
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And some of us are sitting here, I believe, but it never affects anything. Oh, God, help us. Help me. Start with me.
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Pastor Tim
I was reading the story of D.L. moody. They said, here's the man that they said they've probably spoken and witnessed to a million people in person. 19th century, before Billy Graham came. They said D.L. moody developed such a hunger for God's word, he spent so much time reading it. He was so quick to obey. He was a first row person. He became a menace. This is what made me laugh. He became a menace to other believers. His rapid spiritual growth as a 17 year old man was an embarrassment to certain people in the church. He'd been saved just for a few years and never grew up in Christ. But week after week, the church Moody attended, he would share a new experience, who he witnessed to what God was doing. And finally, some of the older saints just couldn't take it anymore. So they went to his uncle and asked them if he would slow him down, tone him down and tell him to stop doing. Tell him to stop telling the stories of what God is doing. They said his robust spiritual health and abounding energy disturbed their napping. They said, he's just too much for us. And this is what the biographer said. So while they were sucking their thumbs, he was growing until he left them all behind. He grew more in a few years than they did in 20 years. Oh, God, light my heart on fire. Light my heart on fire.
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Here's a thought.
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Pastor Tim
God, interfere with me, no matter what it is. I want you to come and do something inside of me. This week I get to meet with a man that uses more profanity than I think any human being on the planet. Every third word Is profane. And I've been witnessing to him and I get to have coffee with him this week. I am so excited because he came to me. He comes and he goes. He goes, all right, Tim. He goes. He says, blankety blank, blank, blank. I think I'm going to church now. He says, blankety blank, blank, blank. I think God. God's wanting to get a hold of my life. Blankety blank. We need to have coffee. Blankety blank. I need to tell you my story.
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I said I'm in.
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Pastor Tim
I am in all the way. I would rather hang out with the blankety blank man than somebody sucking their thumb for 20 years in the church. I want to be with him.
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That's what I'm just telling you. We're going to have coffee Thursday and.
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Pastor Tim
We'Re not gonna sit in. I have to take him outside because it's too much. It's too much. There may be small children and. And maybe close to some fire on the oven. I don't want him to. To go to hell. I gotta make sure he's. He's in.
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It is amazing to watch with it.
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Pastor Tim
What is happening to this man? This is what Jim Elliott said, the man that was martyred. He said, father, make me a crisis man. Bring those eye contact to a dist decision.
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Let me not be a mile post on a single road. Make me a fork that men must turn one way or another on Facing Christ inside of me. I want to be a crisis man. I don't want to sit down and go, oh, you do it. Those jets and Giants. I can't believe it. Thank God for the Buffalo Bills. I could care less. Who cares? Make me a crisis. Make man this Thursday.
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Pastor Tim
I want to be a crisis man. Hey, bro, you got to go one way or the other. And if you go this way, he's going to interfere with you. So here's what we're going to do. Enough is enough. You've been interfered with. Some of you. Right now he's going after everything. I want to. I want to turn this altar. It doesn't mean the fight has stopped. But you're willing to say, come and interfere. He's gonna interfere. And some of you have been in a fight and you have not submitted. You have not submitted. You've come up with crazy grids. I only want to go to a church like this. I only want a pastor that doesn't spit. I want to just do this thing. I want to do this. And it doesn't work. It just doesn't work. You're coming up with this criteria. Enough is enough. Here's the deal. So many of us are making decisions from, from the prejudice, narrow minded, angry, self seeking and let God interfere. No more thumb sucking. But God make us a crisis man. I pray every time you meet with me you got to decide. Heaven and hell, you got to decide. I'm going to let him intervene. So if you're here today, we're going to sing this song. I want you just to get out of your seat right now and just go. This altar is going to be interfere with me. Come after me. He's coming after areas right now. Just get out, get out of your seat right now as we sing this balcony. Get out because I'm in the balcony going, oh, I gotta get out and get down here as fast as you can as we start to sing because this is going to be the moment we say interfere in every area that you want. Come on, let's sing this as you come balcony, come. Main floor, come. Come on to God sing it with me.
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Glory. Come on you come to God be the glory To God be the glory for the things he has done with his blood Come on. With his blood he saved me he saved and with his power.
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Pastor Tim
Come on.
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We'Re going to sing it again.
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Come on as you come we'll wait for you.
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To God be the glory Sing a.
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Church To God be the glory.
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Pastor Tim
To.
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God be the glory be the glory for the things he has done.
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With.
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His blood he has saved me with his power he has raised me to.
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Give.
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Me the glory for the things he has done Hallelujah.
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Pastor Tim
Hallelujah. Would you just let me speak to you just for a second here? Here's what's going to this, this is not easy, this part. And I could see the tears in some of your eyes. This is the fight. This is all you're committing to is this interfere. It's not going to be easy, but go out whatever you want to go after, mindsets, traditions, ethnicity, religion, tradition, politics, go after it all. God interfere. How many are willing to at least say that? Interfere with every part. Every part. And he'll do that. He will. I'm just telling you, I, I'm living proof that nothing is off limits to him. That's the first thing. Number two, there's going to be a lot of tears. It's going to be a fight. It's going to be a fight. We've set up things and grids and checklists and everything else. And what we're asking for is God the hammer, the fire, the Furnace, the hammer, the furnace. And then the file come, come. God, sharpen us. Do something inside of us. How many want truth? Anybody want truth? If you get truth, you'll get freedom. If you get freedom, you'll get joy. And if you get joy, you're going to get stronger. That's what's going to happen. That's what I'm praying for. I'm praying for that right now. Truth, freedom, joy, strength. That's what happens. And then what he'll do, Listen to me. What he's going to do is this. And soon as you, soon as you get that strength, you go, okay, God, you've helped me in this area that he's gonna go, okay, what about this area? God, I just got, I just. Seriously, Seriously. Again, we just got through this. And God goes, no, no, I'm gonna go after this too. He wants all of us. All of us. That's why, here's my promise. You're not gonna leave church happy every single time. Some days you'll skip out, some days you'll dance out. And some days you're going like I'm never going back there ever again. Ever again. That's okay. That's okay. He'll get ahold of you. Come on, lift those hands to him right now. Just come on, ask him. Say, God, interfere now. I'm surrendering to you. I surrender. Surrender, surrender, surrender every area. Just say, God, I surrender this to you right now. God, I'm lifting it up. I'm saying this, our band is saying it, our singers, our choir. God, we're saying, we surrender. We surrender to you, God. We want truth, we want freedom, we want joy, we want strength. Lord God, how you can pick a self seeking, angry, exclusive and God and selfish man and make him a disciple. But at the end you would say, you're gonna write a gospel, you're gonna write an epistle and you'll write the last book of the Bible.
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I don't even know how that happened.
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Pastor Tim
Happens.
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That's the man that God, you would choose to have the revelation in, in the book of Revelation. That's the man that would write three epistles.
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Pastor Tim
That's the man that would write 21 chapters.
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You chose on paper the wrong man.
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Pastor Tim
But in the spirit you chose the right man. You interfered and God at this altar, God, are are people that you are going to start to interfere. There is a work of God inside of them today. Start that work in Jesus name. Look at me for a second. Do you understand that that guy wrote a gospel, three epistles and the Book of Revelation, I would have picked a much better guy. And he goes, that's the guy I'm going to use. I want him to get the. I want him to get this right. And so I'm going to use the guy that allowed me to interfere the most. And the ones that get. Interfere the most how? What does that mean? Interfere means you apologize a lot. Hey, I shouldn't have said this. Please forgive me, Elder Vicki. This, this, today was just. Something got me upset today and, and she saw it on my face. So she comes over to me and she, she, she. She started with some. She started going, pins and needles, needles and pins. It's a happy man. That I said. And so I was going, oh, sing a song. Song. Don't convict me. And then just before she came out, for every mountain, I held her hand and I just go, thank you. Thank you for calling me out. I needed that. I love this one. I said, thank you. And it happens that way. Sometimes God uses an elder to interfere. Get ready for this, gentleman. Sometimes we'll use your wife. Yes, he will. He'll do that. I just had a wife poke her husband at this altar. But here's the good news. Here's the part I want to just tell you. And then we're going to sing. There are some people that are here that you think you have to fix your life before he'll love you and call you. Can I. Can I tell you that's so far from the truth. So you're going, like, as soon as I stop this and don't do this anymore, then I'm coming to church and I'm going to become a Christian. Nothing is further from the truth because you're trying to make Jesus like you. Look at me. He doesn't like you. He loves you. He loves you. So while you're trying to go, do you like me now? Do you like me now? Jesus going, I've never liked you. I've loved you. So in the condition you're going like, but I curse. I've used his name in the perfect. You're a perfect candidate.
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But I smoke, I do this. I do drug.
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Pastor Tim
He wants you. He wants to change you. Only if you're willing. So you have to let him start with the interference now. So he's interfering now. He's going to interfere with all this. And if you're here today and you're going, I've never had a walk with Jesus. That's the relationship. I've come to church, but I've never walked With Jesus. I've never had him come into my life. This is the interference moment. If you're here today, balcony, main floor, with those that are watching, listen. Philippines, listen. Japan, listen. Ukraine, listen. Russia, listen. Barbados, listen. Puerto Rico, listen. London, listen. Ireland. He's calling you now. If you've never had a relationship with before and you're saying, God, you're asking me to walk with you. You've walked in by yourself, but you walk out hand in hand with Jesus today. If that's you, and saying, I need him in my life. I need him, I need his interference, I need his. I need someone who loves me enough. I need truth, I need freedom, I need joy and I need strength. What does that mean? I need Jesus. If that's you today. And say, pastor Tim, would you pray for me? Without any hesitant, hold up your hand. Say I want that. Hold up your hand as high as you can. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. All of these. Yes, yes, yes, yes. All of those balcony, let me see all over there. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Over there. Yes. Gotcha. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. All the way back there. Yes, yes. Come on.
- [69:51]
Co-Pastor or Assistant Speaker
Say this with me.
- [69:51]
Pastor Tim
Say Jesus, I'm welcome you into my life. Come in and interfere.
- [69:59]
Co-Pastor or Assistant Speaker
Nothing off limits. I believe you love me.
- [70:04]
Pastor Tim
You died for me.
- [70:07]
Co-Pastor or Assistant Speaker
Change me from the inside out. You rose from the dead to break every bondage. When you interfere, I may not be.
- [70:19]
Pastor Tim
Happy, but I trust you.
- [70:22]
Co-Pastor or Assistant Speaker
And so today I trust my life to you. In Jesus name and everybody said Amen. And Amen. And Amen. Listen.
- [70:34]
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