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Tony Mantour
Welcome to why Not Me Embracing Autism and Mental Health Worldwide Hosted by Tony Mantour, broadcasting from the heart of Music City, usa, Nashville, Tennessee. Join us as our guests share their raw, powerful stories. Some will spark laughter, others will to tears. These real life journeys inspire, connect, and remind you that you're never alone. We're igniting a global movement to empower everyone to make a lasting difference by fostering deep awareness, unwavering acceptance, and profound understanding of autism and mental health. Tune in, be inspired, and join us in transforming the world one story at a time. Hi, I'm Tony Mantour. Welcome to why Not Me Embracing Autism and Mental Health Worldwide. Before we jump in, if you haven't already, I invite you to tap follow. It only takes a couple of seconds and it helps this show reach more families who need to hear these conversations. Thanks for being here. Our guest today is someone who's been doing incredible work in the autism community, especially when it comes to employment and opportunity. Danny Combs has been deeply involved in helping create real jobs and real pathways for autistic individuals through his work with tac. He's also involved with initiatives through the state of Colorado that focus on neurodiversity in the workplace. The last time Danny and I spoke, we talked about the vision of building meaningful employment opportunities for autistic individuals. Today we're going to revisit that conversation. Talk about the progress that's been made and look ahead at where things are going. So before we dive into our episode, we'll be back with an uninterrupted show right after a word from our sponsors.
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Tony Mantour
Thanks for joining us today.
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Danny Combs
Yeah, I've been looking forward to it. I'm so glad we were able to connect.
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Tony Mantour
Yes, me too. Give us a little information on what you've been up to since we last chatted.
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Danny Combs
Yeah, I mean, it's hard to believe last time we had spoken, last time you and I had the chance and privilege to connect, was honored to have received a Congressional Mentor of Honor Society Citizen Honor Award for my work with the autism community, specifically here in Colorado. With TACT and the Colorado Neurodiversity Chamber of Commerce and a book that I had written and have since since I had spoken to you, I ended up getting appointed by the governor here in Colorado to work for a new office called the Colorado Disability Opportunity Office.
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Tony Mantour
That's awesome. Tell us a little bit more about it.
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Danny Combs
It's really pretty fantastic in the sense that Colorado became one of the first states to have a disability policy advisor where most states to the governor will have somebody that advises them on education, transportation, all those kind of things. However, not disability, which seems kind of surprising. Colorado does. And as this governor's term has been coming to an end, he wanted to make sure that kept going. And so they ended up making a whole new state office to do just that. They didn't want to raise taxes to do it. And so they got really creative in the way they went around it as they ended up reissuing historic license plates here in Colorado. So not like, you know, in Tennessee, you would have, if you're a UT fan, the Volunteers, you have a Tennessee Titans plate or disabled veterans plate or something along that. They have that here in Colorado, too. Nothing like that. They took historic plates from the 50s, the 60s, et cetera, and brought them back and said, okay. The one that's really popular for us is an all black plate with white lettering. It's very simple, looks A lot like the black and yellow out in California. If you'd like this license plate, you can do it. It's 25 bucks. Well, people turns out really like historic things like that when it's clean and simple and not branded with this favorite sports team or. Cause it's now generating about a million and a half bucks a month for us. $25 a pop.
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Tony Mantour
That's great.
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Danny Combs
Which is just wild. It's fantastic. And with that, it makes it sustainable funding because every year when somebody wants to reissue their plate, get their little stickers for their license plate, they have to pay it again. It's really creative. And we get to advise. That doesn't mean that, you know, we get the final say, but it's really neat to have a seat at the table and make sure that the voice of our community is heard.
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Danny Combs
And then we get to take that funding and provide grant opportunities for a whole bunch of groups throughout the state, from for Prof. To non profits to state offices to municipalities. The funding's open to everybody as long as there is at least a committee of folks with disabilities overseeing it, which we're really proud of, to make sure there's like a nothing about us, without us kind of mindset.
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Tony Mantour
Does this funding cover all disabilities? It does.
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Danny Combs
Yeah. It covers all disabilities, which is amazing. And especially with the work that I've got to do in autism. And I think that the governor asked me to do this because building TACT in the Colorado Neurodiversity Chamber of Commerce and those teams from Ground up, this very much feels like a startup.
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Tony Mantour
Sure. That makes sense.
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Danny Combs
With that startup kind of mindset. One of the things I'm excited to be starting in your neck of the woods in Tennessee is a new group called Buildable. And it's kind of taking the idea that we've been working on with TACT for all these years and the fact that no one has copied this idea of using the skill trades as vessels to develop employment skills, autistic and neurodivergent individuals. And here in Colorado at least, it has grown to be the most successful transition to employment program in the state.
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Tony Mantour
Nice.
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Danny Combs
Over a thousand students. It was 10:57 students went through it last year. We regularly get folks that reach out and say, we'd like to do this in our state. Well, we're going to do it. We're doing it under a different name because folks have advised us the people that are smarter than be with the fancy law degrees advise us to do it this way.
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Tony Mantour
Right.
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Danny Combs
It'll be a Separate organization, but it's kind of taking the IP behind that and it's taking it creating this platform and transition educational. Transition training and education program for autistic and neurodivergent individuals to get job skills and then hopefully to careers. That's what we're trying to do.
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Tony Mantour
When is it planned to start in Nashville?
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Danny Combs
Actually in March.
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Tony Mantour
Wow.
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Danny Combs
Yeah. So we found Belmont University has decided to be the first partner university for our workshops. Shared it at Vanderbilt. Belmont's come on board as far as hosting some of the classes. And we're having these workshop opportunities for children, young adults and grown adults to kind of come in and get the opportunity to try and kind of explore, discover, create, see if it's something that they're interested in doing. And so like we're doing like a ukulele making class, for example, for come in and build ukuleles and actually give it a shot. And the idea is that we're going to be empowering these individuals to try and see if it's something they like. And then we're also then building up, you know, the students that might be interested for when we get this going full time.
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Tony Mantour
When do you think that will be?
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Danny Combs
Hopefully it's this fall. That's our goal. By the time we acquire the facility, get it renovated and then start going. That's our plan.
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Tony Mantour
Now, where do you see this developing and what do you see it developing into? It's kind of a startup, like you mentioned. How do you see this evolving? I mean, this could be unlimited in what you do. What are your main objectives and what are you focusing on in getting this thing started?
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Danny Combs
The main focus at first is to find a couple trades that people seem interested in. And we've got, thankfully, a lot of really big corporation partners that love the work that we've done, kind of the proof of concept with tact that have come on board. So, for example, in auto mechanics, Subaru is a really great partner. They've agreed that, you know, they will come to those dealerships that are selling those products on our behalf and say, hey, there's this training program. You should hire their graduates. And it comes from them rather than us just knocking on the door. More credibility behind that. What we're hoping to do is to start kind of shifting that paradigm of workforce and saying, hey, everybody's looking for workers. Specifically among the autism community, being the highest unemployed demographic in the country, we have got this opportunity to have real meaningful careers. Why don't you come through our program and let us support that effort and that life change for you. And so we're hoping that the folks in Tennessee, it seems like they're already getting very excited about it, will come on board with that. And then as we've shared the idea, we've had about 15 states that have also expressed interest and then those are different stages of getting startup. So hopefully when you and I talk in another two years after the last time we started, it's been two years since we spoke last. I know there will be, you know, multiple of these all over the country. That's the goal.
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Tony Mantour
The last time I talked with you, I do remember you were speaking about trying to increase TACT across the country.
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Danny Combs
Yeah.
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Tony Mantour
So is it more focused on doing this and keeping TACT in the background for more of the support?
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Danny Combs
Yeah, there'll be separate organizations. I think what TACT is doing in Colorado is just working so well and is so blended to the community. We want to make sure that what we're starting here with buildable, it honors that and doesn't take away from that. As we've been traveling around and really meeting with folks from all over the country that have successfully spread non profits across the country, one thing that's been really interesting to see is there doesn't necessarily be a level of consistency where if you go to one in one state and another in another state, you're not necessarily getting that same product. So we want to make sure that by doing it this way we're taking that opportunity, but trying to kind of almost franchise it, if you will, which you do with a nonprofit that we're able to control the idea, to make sure that the team is teaching the way that we think they should teach, structuring the classrooms the way that we think they should structure them, have the right tools that we think they should be using all of those things so that we can do our best to guarantee that individuals are going to be successful.
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Tony Mantour
What are some of the challenges that you still have to encounter in turning this into a reality?
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Danny Combs
You know, finding the right people is very, very difficult. There's a lot of well meaning people that want to help. But the thing is, and you know, I mean, you're in entrepreneur yourself when you're starting something up. It is hard and it's expensive and you know, specifically in the trades there's a lot of tools and those tools are not cheap unfortunately. While well meaning people want to get things set up once they start pricing out what classrooms full of power tools and hand tools and all that equipment looks like it's expensive and then Finding the right locations that are both A zoned properly and B can handle transportation and infrastructure for that kind of equipment. There's a few of those dominoes that need to fall an alignment for it to be successful. So trying to find those locations and then also our near, you know, jobs. Because sometimes we get folks in rural environments that reach out, which would be incredible. But if there's no opportunity for jobs in those environments, what becomes the point of the training program? It crosses into that semi day treatment kind of program.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah, that makes total sense. Now, working for the state versus this, what are some of the differences you've seen doing this?
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Danny Combs
You know, taking this position with the state? I'm so grateful I got the opportunity to do it because it feels like you get a bigger picture of where everybody is at as far as where everything is at at that point. To that being said, I've been able to meet all kinds of nonprofits across the state that I hadn't had access to before in the past. Seeing where they're at, I understand nonprofits even more than having run one, which is kind of interesting. I feel like it both builds you up and then also keeps you humble. Understanding the state processes and why they are the way that they are is really interesting too. I think. I've learned so much about policy. I mean, how the policy portion of it, it how that really either can make or break outcomes and opportunity for individuals and you know, having the chance to help support that. I'm really grateful for that. I think that's going to help have those kind of conversations and learning how to speak that language in the future in other states.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah, that's great. Now I'm curious. Yeah, I'm doing a special in May that's incorporating around the mental health part of it. But I'm dealing with state legislators, state senators, former U.S. house of Representatives, and they're all telling me how they tried to create legislation that will help the justice system and all the other things that go along with autism and mental health. Have you run into those situations to where you're talking with legislators and senators and all that, to where you see the frustration that everybody's having and trying to get something passed?
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Danny Combs
Oh, absolutely. And I think the hard thing is, I mean, the way that the system is structured, right, where those legislators, they mean really well, they have really good intent. A lot of cases, they've never run a state agency or office. Even the policies that they develop, they don't understand how that truthfully impacts those running those state offices and let alone the interaction between, you know, those offices and the nonprofits that they're trying to serve and the community members they're trying to serve. The most interesting thing that I have found is like for example, we're doing a needs assessment here in Colorado. Our office is getting to spearhead and I'm really excited about it. And it's come up that no other state that we've been able to find and we talked to a whole bunch of states and the contractor we've hired, hired to help us write, has also researched, has ever done this. And what I mean by the needs assessment is we don't have any real information of how many folks, for example in the state have autism. We don't really know. We have general studies that, you know, the CDC does or the World Health Organization does. It's taken from a handful of states, from one specific age demographic and then we paint broad brushes. Well, how do you put in place a solid strategy and program infrastructure if you don't really know who you're trying to serve at that point? Point. So really trying to begin with the end in mind. And to your point about those legislators, they again, they mean really well, but they're not. They were those roadblocks that could stand in the way or they don't really understand the ideas that they have, how they're going to serve the community when they don't have all the actual data at the same time too.
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Tony Mantour
Have you been able to give them some advice where you operated tact for so long you've worked with non profits, you understand how they operate. So have you been able to give them some real life everyday operational advice?
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Danny Combs
Oh, absolutely. I find that they to learn like they're hungry, but even the way that they can go about it is rather limited. That being said, I've worked with state level things I've done the federal level was getting to work with the neurodiverse Air Force where we were able to change the National Defense Authorization act for neurodivergent folks going into the air and space force. I was really, really very happy to be part of that team that got to work on that. And I was not the lead on that. I was fortunate to work with some incredible individuals. I just got to be part of that team. I would be really curious to see what it'd be like to work with the more federal level representatives for sure.
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Tony Mantour
Yes, it certainly can be eye opening in the way that they do their legislation. Yeah, you do have a certain amount of legislators and senators that really do want to Help, then you have a certain group of those that have no concept or understanding about it. And unfortunately, because they don't understand, they're the ones that will veto.
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Danny Combs
Yeah.
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Tony Mantour
I spoke with one legislator. They got a unanimous vote through the House, and then when it got to the Senate, unfortunately, it died. We still have a lot of people that we have to get information to so they can understand what is needed to help these people. They have to understand that this is not just national, it is also worldwide.
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Danny Combs
Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think to your point, that the communication and the way that we articulate the need, the strengths, the assets of community, we need to unify that. And I think one thing that has not helped our community specifically in the autism world is some of the arguments that come up from time to time. And rather than saying, okay, you said something one way that I maybe wouldn't have said it that way. Understanding the centralized point and mission and heart are at the same core at that point in the nonprofit world, too, unfortunately, nonprofits are so competitive and they're so siloed in their scope of work, fighting over similar grants. Same kind of buckets that they don't necessarily collaborate when you look at for profits. Right. They can kind of cannibalize each other. Merge, combine, partner. You don't really see nonprofits doing that very much. Much. I think if there was more of an alignment of nonprofits working together in concert, I think that could be a really powerful force to start really kind of shifting the narrative because then everybody's saying the same thing. I would imagine that at that point, they would be more likely to listen.
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Tony Mantour
You know, I think you kind of said it right. I find that the bigger charities, they do not play well together.
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Danny Combs
Yeah.
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Tony Mantour
I find some of the smaller ones will reach out some and at least communicate at some level. Even though they're going for that same dollar, they do understand there's a certain need they all have to have.
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Danny Combs
Yep. That's a great way to say it. That's a fair point, too. But especially when you start looking at, you know, nonprofits, a not very many make it over five years and then be the ones that get over half million into the, you know, making millions of dollars a year. It's even smaller pool at that point.
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Tony Mantour
Right.
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Danny Combs
The other ones are definitely more collaborative because it's almost like a survival point of view at that point.
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Tony Mantour
Very true. Now, what are you hoping to see? I know you're trying to push this Nashville collaborative as high as it possibly can go.
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Danny Combs
Yeah.
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Tony Mantour
How do you see it evolving in Nashville beyond Belmont and some of the other things we've already discussed.
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Danny Combs
Yeah, I think when we get our own facility and get that going, I think we can make an incredible hub and opportunity. I think as Nashville and Tennessee have been growing dramatically, the exciting opportunity exists to make sure that, you know, there is a program that's centralized that can bring together those nonprofits, profits, get everybody collaborating and unify around the idea that our kids deserve an opportunity to be successful and that there is a pathway forward to actually lead towards that. Because just like we've experienced here in Colorado, just like what Tennessee's experiencing in other states too, is there isn't that real opportunity for our community? I mean, there's a reason that when you and I spoke two years ago about the statistics of employment for autistic individuals, it has not changed.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah, that's not good.
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Danny Combs
Ten years ago, it still hasn't changed. And people keep going about things in the same way that they've been going around them and then wondering why we're not getting different results. And I think what buildable has the opportunity to bring is saying, hey, this is something different, this is something unique. This has a pathway and is opening doors to actually create authentic opportunities in differentiating between jobs and careers. And I think that's an important thing to recognize the difference between because what happens a lot with like day treatment programs and they do field trips and other exploratory events that might lead towards a part time job working at a coffee house or at a restaurant. And if that's what somebody wants, then God bless them, I hope that they love it.
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Tony Mantour
Sure.
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Danny Combs
But if they want more or something different, I should say where they're working in a trade, working in tech, etc. Then they should also get that same opportunity. And unfortunately that has not happened where we've been kind of put to the side and said, okay, you can be here, this is what's available options are. And that kind of takes away real opportunity and choice that neurotypicals would normally
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Tony Mantour
have have the unfortunate situation. I still see that the autistic community still has is the perception from the potential employers on understanding what autism is. Yeah, unfortunately there is still a general lack of what autism is. Yeah, I see a very difficult part of your job and that's not just educating the autistic community on what needs to be done, but educating the neurotypical community on what autistic people can do to help them.
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Danny Combs
Well, I mean, I think that's what goes back to. Yeah. To that, that unity message. I mean, I remember when tax started, we would talk about our students as autistic and people would be like, no, no, you can't say that. You have to say person with autism. Now if you said person with autism versus autistic, it's flip flopped. Right. Rather than missing the message of what we were trying to achieve, they got caught up in the language. I use that because they're well meaning. They did. They didn't mean anything by it other than the sense that by taking energy from what's the opportunities being presented to focus on, on things like that, you are missing a greater opportunity to unify around a team and actually get that genuine job or career for that individual. I mean that's just an example. But I think we need to come together and do that. And I think, you know, in the neurodiversity community as a whole, it seemed like last year there was almost a setback where folks that were getting in this DEI space missed that. Really. Neurodiversity, in addition to that is a return on investment. It's a value proposition. And if the language shifts to the value proposition and return on investment for a business, businesses in a unified way, that's a much stronger argument to make. For programs supporting our community.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah, Business, especially those for profit businesses, many times they only look at their bottom line. They have to make sure the ROI is good. So the only thing I see as a path forward is to change the language so they're not looking at it as autistic versus neurotypical. They're looking at can this person do the job I need and make me dollars?
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Danny Combs
Yeah, I agree 100% and I think we need more folks saying that same thing because you're exactly right. Yes.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah. Like you say, we have gotten so wrapped up in the language of the way it's being presented. Like a big thing now is I've heard, is it level one, level two or level three? A lot of people have the terminologies they want to use, but in my opinion, I think they're missing a very big point. What needs to be put across is these autistic people can do everything and anything that a neurotypical can do. Sometimes it's just presentation.
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Danny Combs
100 and I think that's where like truly buying into the notion of changing the environment and not asking the individual to change, like meeting the individual where they're at, where you want to go and then elevate them to that level. I think traditional education and training programs where they've suffered and where they've. In all fairness, you know, in a public school setting, for example, those teachers just aren't set up for success. They're just not. The classrooms are too big. They don't have enough resources. They don't have enough support. They shoot down the middle. And it's like the bell curve. They're trying to get as many as they can. They do the best they can. The reality is people don't all learn the same way. They don't all retain information the same way. They don't all progress in their skill development. Some elevate really quickly, then slow down. Some, you know, progress really slowly. Then all the sudden they can do all these amazing things, and that's okay. I think it's an opportunity too, to really reframe on a broader scale. How do we relook education in general? How do we relook training in general? Because even neurotypical kids aren't being served in the ways that they deserve to be served.
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Tony Mantour
Now you brought up. If we have this conversation in two years, let's jump ahead a little more. If we have this conversation in five years, what do you think it will look like then?
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Danny Combs
If you would have told me five years ago, you think that we were still overcoming Covid, I mean, that just feels like a lifetime ago, right? And what we all went through with that in five years, honestly, I would love to see that the entire system has changed to the point that we don't even need programs like this because everybody is doing this, that we have truly embraced our entire community, that we have shifted as a system, and that genuine inclusion of equality of opportunity exists for everybody, uniformly, that would be the dream. I don't think we'll be there. And especially having a chance to not work in state, in government, seeing how slow the ship turns. But I think we can get more interested parties. And the more folks like you that take the time to listen to those of us that are, you know, kind of practitioners in a way that are demonstrating that this idea can work. I think the more of those that of us that get our voices out there and together again, uniformly, I think the more likely we are to get some people higher up that can really join us in making that change. And I would like to see that take place if possible.
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Tony Mantour
Another thing that we all have to think about is, of course, the parents of the autistic children. Children, they always want what's best for the child. Unfortunately, sometimes they're not looking at reality. How do we get them so they can have small Successes, the reality will unfortunately set in that they're not getting them exactly where they want to be, but they will realize they are getting small successes. This way, it not only helps the parents, it also helps the community by showing them that things can actually change.
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Danny Combs
That's such a great question on so many levels because one of the things that's a very real, I don't want to say fear, but a very real training that's coming down the tracks. I don't know what a better way to say it is. What's happening now is for the autism community. There's a large number that live at home with aging caregivers. This is the first generation of autistic individuals that for a lot of them or a large group of them, did not end up in institutions, which in my mind is a good thing. However, we have not in that same period of time, built up the infrastructure to support them outside of institutionalism, other than their parents. And when you look at how parents are getting older, and in a lot of cases parents are in their 70s or 80s and still taking care of their autistic child, what happens next? And for some reason, that's another elephant in the room that no one is talking about. So I think using that as an example for the current parents of younger children, recognizing they have to start looking at programs like this and investing in real opportunity for their kids for the future, because another generation of parents trying to take care of their life while awesome is not going to be sustainable. What that looks like, I don't have the answer for that one. I think that's a whole other nut that needs to be cracked, you know, housing and living situation. But it's something that is going to be, I'm guessing, very regularly talked about here in the next couple years because I don't know what's going to happen to those individuals when their parents really start passing. And there's going to of be a lot, a lot of them that that's going to start happening. And there you see little pockets of housing initiatives or inclusive housing initiatives taking place, which is great, but it's certainly not enough that's going to capture everybody at that point.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah, I definitely agree. This June is my third year of doing my podcast.
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Danny Combs
Congratulations. You have grown tremendously in three years. Good for you. Congratulations.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah, thanks. I appreciate that, that. But being here in Nashville and talking with everyone, I can see where there is so much more that needs to be done to correct all these things that we've just talked about. But that's a whole nother podcast episode. So in closing, what would you like to leave with our listeners giving them the thoughts of what you're trying to do?
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Danny Combs
I think I would love to leave the listeners with a thought that our kids can do amazing things when we give them the opportunity to do those amazing things and to not limit their scope of what they think is achievable. I mean, you talked about autism level 1, 2, 3 or if you were talking about CIS levels 1 through 7, our kids ourselves get put into boxes. However, I find that individuals can regularly break out of those boxes when you elevate and empower them and give them the tools to truly be successful. And I hope that they'll come by and see what we're trying to build in Nashville and give it a chance. And I think they'll be blown away at the opportunity of what their kids can do. And I think they'll be proud of their child as they always are, but also also the future that exists for them now.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah. Well, I really appreciate you taking the time to join us today.
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Danny Combs
Yeah, me too. Thanks again for making the time.
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Tony Mantour
My pleasure. Thanks again. A big thank you to our guests for sharing their journey. If today's conversation helped you see the world a little differently, then we're doing exactly what we hope to do until next time. Keep believing, keep learning, and most importantly, keep asking yourself, why not me? Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to listen to our show today. We hope you enjoyed it as much as we enjoyed bringing it to you. If you know someone who has a story to share, tell them to contact us at WhyNotMe World. One last thing, spread the word about why not me. Our conversations are inspiring guests that show you are not alone in this world.
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Progressive Insurance Announcer
Spring Black Friday is on at the Home Depot. Save on grills and patio sets that will be sure to bring your hosting game up a notch. Fire up your feast with help from the Home Depot and save on grand grills like the next grill 4 burner propane gas grill was $249 now in special buy for $199 or give everyone the best seat in the yard with the Hampton bay Mayfield park four piece conversation set for only $399. Save on grills and patio sets with low prices guaranteed during Spring Black Friday only at the Home Depot now through April 22nd while supplies last exclusion supplies. See homedepot.com Pricematch for details.