Loading summary
Transcript67 lines
- [00:00]
Adriana Trigiani
Only Boost Mobile will give you a free year of service when you buy a new 5G phone. Oh, like a BOGO. A BOGO. Buy one, get one BOGO. Well, technically it's buy one phone, get one year. So BOP goy. Ah bopgoy. Get the Boost Mobile Bop goy. Deal Bop goy with Boost Mobile. Bop goy. Bop goy. Bop goy. This is the best idea we've ever had. When you purchase an eligible device, you get $25 off every month for 12 months with credits totaling one year of free service. Tax is extra for the device and service plan online only. Hi, I'm Richard Karn and you may have seen me on TV talking about the world's number one expandable garden hose. Well, the brand new Pocket hose Copperhead with Pocket Pivot is here and it's a total game changer. Old fashioned hoses get kinks and creases at the spigot, but the Copperhead's pocket pivot swivels 360 degrees for full water flow and freedom to water with ease all around your home. When you're all done, this rust proof anti burst hose shrinks back down to pocket size for effortless handling and tidy storage. Plus your super light and ultra durable pocket hose. Copperhead is backed with a 10 year warranty. What could be better than that? I'll tell you what an exciting exclusive offer just for you for a limited time. You can get a free pocket pivot and their 10 pattern sprayer with the purchase of any size Copperhead hose. Just go to getcopperhead.com that's getcopperhead.com for your two free gifts with purchase getcopperhead.com message and data rates may apply. See Terms for details.
- [01:32]
Zibby Owens
Today's episode is sponsored by gab. The youth mental health crisis is all over the news and we know social media is driving it. This shocked me. The US Surgeon General warns that kids who spend more than three hours a day online are twice as likely to have depression and anxiety. With four kids of my own, we are constantly debating when is the right age to give some of our kids a phone? How do we monitor the phone usage? For others? It is non stop. But now there's a solution. Here's the good A company called GAB has solved the problem by doing something no one else is doing. Their approach is tech in steps. Tech in Steps works by providing kids safe phones and watches tailored to every age, offering the right device at the right time. From GPS tracking enabled watches for young kids to increased features and parent enabled apps on the phones for tweens and teens. Each device grows with your child. Bottom line, you don't have to give your kid a device that was made for an adult. You get them Gab which keeps them socially connected safely. I can't recommend Gab enough. Use our code to get the best deal on something that will make parenting easier and give you peace of mind. Visit gab.com that's g-a b-b.com totallybooked and use code totallybooked for a very special offer. Hi, this is Zibby Owens and you're listening to Totally Booked with Zibby, formerly Moms don't have Time to Read Books in my daily show I interview today's latest best selling, buzziest or underrated authors and story creators whose work I think is worth your time. As a bookstore owner, publisher, author and obviously podcaster, I get a comprehensive look at everything that's coming out and spend my time curating the best books so you don't have to stay in the know. Get insider insights and connect with guests like I do every single day. For more information, go to zibbemedia.com and follow me on Instagram Ibyoans Adrianna Citriani is back on the podcast to talk about the View from Lake Como, a novel. Adriana Triggiani is the New York Times bestselling author of 21 books of fiction and nonfiction. Her work has been published in 38 languages around the world. An award winning playwright, television writer, producer and filmmaker, Georgiani wrote and directed the major motion picture of her debut novel Big Stone Gap, adapted her novel Very Valentine for television and directed the documentary Queens of the Big Time, among others. In 2023, President Sergio Mattarella of Italy awarded Triggiani the Cavaliere Dell Ordine della Stella d'. Italia. The Library of Virginia bestowed their highest honor, the Patron of Letters degree, to Triggiani in 2024 and she received the 2025 Ellis Island Medal of Honor for her significant contributions to literature, culture and community. Triggiani grew up in Appalachia, in the mountains of Virginia, where she co founded the Origin Project, a year round in school writing program that has served over 25,000 students since its inception in 2014. Trijiani is proud to serve on the New York State Council on the Arts. She lives in Greenwich Village with her family. Welcome back Adrianna. So excited to have you on Totally Booked with Civvie to talk about the view from Lake Como. Congrats.
- [04:52]
Adriana Trigiani
Thank you so much. I am thrilled and honored to be Here, you know, I adore you.
- [04:56]
Zibby Owens
Oh, I adore you too.
- [04:57]
Adriana Trigiani
Thank you.
- [04:58]
Zibby Owens
Okay. At first I thought, oh, great, I'm going to Lake Como. And then I was like, what? Lake Como, New Jersey? What the heck? Okay, so your book starts in New Jersey.
- [05:08]
Adriana Trigiani
You get both. I know, listen, we can't mislead our listeners. I know you get both, but, you know, you know, at different stages of your life, you do different things. And people were getting married in New Jersey for. I had cousins getting married down there and different. And we found ourselves in New Jersey a lot. And I just started nosing around and I found this town, Lake Como, and I thought this was hilarious. This is like, is your sister city, Lake Como, Italy? Like, because my mother's people are Lombardian and so we're from that area. So then I started nosing around and found out that the town changed its name. It used to be South Belmont. This made it more hilarious to me because the property values were plummeting and they wanted to resuscitate this town, so they took a vote and they renamed it Lake Como.
- [05:56]
Zibby Owens
And the rest is history.
- [05:57]
Adriana Trigiani
And the rest is history. And I just, you know, when I go to write a book, it happens on many layers. And this character, Jess Barrata, just got divorced and she's really living in her parents basement. Sad. And she has to rebuild. And I thought, how interesting that she living in a town that had to rebuild.
- [06:18]
Zibby Owens
Totally. I love that. Okay, tell listeners what the book is about.
- [06:22]
Adriana Trigiani
Well, you know, I kind of. Here's my elevator pitch. It's the story of a woman who rebuilds her life and the house that goes with it. And there's a lot of things on my mind that fed into this for the three year process of writing it that I contemplated. And one of them is like, where do I feel at most at peace in the world? And the truth is, I feel at peace in my grandmother and mother's hometown on the mountain in Italy. I just do in the snow. Like, I like snow. I'm one of those people. And when I say a piece, I mean in communion with the ever after. So that. That I wanted to write about that. And then. And so many times too, Zibby. We. We make mistakes that we think are mistakes, and they bring us shame and guilt and whatever, but that's not really what they are. They're just like doorways to another life. And so I wanted to dramatize that in a book. And so it's true of every layer of the book. Yeah.
- [07:23]
Zibby Owens
Well, even though the book is about Jess. It's also about Uncle Louie and what happens with his life and some of his decisions. And as he, you know, this is fairly on. I feel like I'm not giving too much away. I don't know. But, you know, when he passes away very sort of dramatically, and she finds out all of this stuff about her uncle, who's basically like her dad. I mean, they're so close and he's been such a role model to her. And then she has to uncover all these sort of family secrets that lay dormant. And yet you put it all under the context of, like, the marble industry, which who knows anything about, which is so fascinating. Talk about that relationship, the uncle niece relationship, which, by the way, does not get a lot of airtime in fiction.
- [08:10]
Adriana Trigiani
No. Well, you have the are. And eventually I dedicated it to my four uncles that have passed away, that each one were very different people, but I got something from each of them. And when I dived into the relationship between Uncle Louie and Jess, you find that there's a level of honesty there that you can't have with anybody else. And she is in the family business with him, so they're the last two men standing. Her mother's complicated. Her Uncle Louis tried to give his sister a job. She just was terrible with the public, but he can't tell her that. And they go on and off from not speaking. I don't know if in your family do people not speak or is that an Italian thing? Do they go to the island? We send them to the island. That's when we're not talking to them.
- [08:56]
Zibby Owens
Go to the island and we all speak. It's what's not said. I think that's interesting.
- [09:01]
Adriana Trigiani
Okay, that's fascinating. Okay, well, this is true, too. Well, what's not said and then not and then holding a grudge when maybe if we spoke, we could work it out, but this is how they deal with things. And they never, when they start resume speaking, would they solve the problem. So it was repeated. And there's this idea that this kind of behavior reverberates in life. So she's going to have to make a break with that somehow. Even though Uncle Louie isn't here to work it out with, he's present through the whole book, but he isn't present physically through the whole book. So as she's working it out and she makes a determination that she needs help, she can't do this on her own. So she's the first person since the Etruscans in this family that went to see A therapist. But she doesn't go to see him in an office. She goes online. Yeah. And of course her mother says, go to the priest. It's free.
- [10:00]
Zibby Owens
What's it called? Like, True Tech or something? I don't know. New step.
- [10:03]
Adriana Trigiani
Theramy.
- [10:04]
Zibby Owens
Theramy. Oh, my gosh. Okay, I know what new step is. Yes. Which is also fascinating. We can all use a little help, I'm sure.
- [10:11]
Adriana Trigiani
Why not? You write your problem down in the morning and you call somebody, hey, what do I do about this? Got any ideas? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Perfect.
- [10:19]
Zibby Owens
I found myself kind of wanting Jess to get back together with her ex. I don't know why. And I was like, why did she do that? And you say at the start that, like, the whole town wanted them to reconcile, Right? Like a huge movement. And, you know, as someone who's divorced, I'm like, oh, no, no, no. They should not reconcile. There's a reason. Da, da, da. But then as it kept going on, I was like, but wait, I don't know. Where's this going?
- [10:44]
Adriana Trigiani
Well, you know, there's a. There's a moment in the book when they realize what they mean to each other. And sometimes, you know, Sibi, we don't. We don't know. To me, just between us two girls here, I think it's a mystery what makes a marriage work. I mean, you could say communication and this and that, but it's just sort of something you sort of know. It's the same feeling you get when you know you need to get out of a relationship that you. You can't stay in it another minute. If you do, you'll just shrivel up and die. I mean, so those two energy fields fed this novel, too, because I wanted her to reconcile that. That she could love or appreciate or not her ex husband and maybe get back together with him if they were at a different place. But as the novel unspools, you find out what happened, and it's the way they. She reacted and he reacted to this trauma. And it was never going to work, right? Or maybe it would, but she'd have to be the master of her destiny. So for the listener, you're going to get a very beefy choice here between two people for her. And I kept saying to the publishers, my beautiful publishers at Penguin Random House, at Dutton, kept saying to those folks, hey, this is a self love story. This is about somebody who has to. She's not going to navigate this through a relationship. She's going to navigate it through her life experience.
- [12:19]
Zibby Owens
Very interesting. Plus, you Throw in not only the travel through self and identity, but literal travel, where you take us. You do take us out of New Jersey. Thank you very much. I mean, not that there's anything wrong with New Jersey, but, you know, everybody likes a little travel. Grab the passport. So you do offer us that sort of escape. And through Jess eyes. And what can we learn from other cultures? And where is our happy place in life?
- [12:42]
Adriana Trigiani
There's an Italian sculptor, a young sculptor named Jago. J A G O. Some say Iago, some say Jago.
- [12:51]
Zibby Owens
Let's say Iago.
- [12:52]
Adriana Trigiani
Let's say Iago. He's Italian, and they call him the modern Michelangelo. And I was invited, or Michelangelo, and I was invited to a screening of the film about his life and his creations. And he has created or did a new. The idea of marble. When it. It seems sheer, like fabric, you know, like Michelangelo did. But here's the thing, Zibby. All that marble came from one source on one mountain. And it shall until the end of time. They will never use up the marble on that mountain. It is sheared off. It is not blasted anymore. It hasn't been blasted since the 70s. It's cut. These men. I explain all of that because I am fascinated by the craftsmanship of this. The idea of marble is that it's very durable. Obviously, that David is still standing. It's very durable. But if you just tap it in the wrong way, turns to dust. And she observes this. Jess Barrata observes this. That. That's her. Her heart, really herself, her soul, like. It's like a woman. You tap it just in the wrong way. Goodbye. We are finished, right? And I loved how that she's a draftsman. We should say that. Which I got into that. If you go to New Jersey, there's a lot of Italian marble there because that's the port where it comes in. So there's a lot of marble. Carrara marble. We should say Carrara, Italy and Tuscany. So it's all part of the whole waft and weave of who she is. It's like her life with her family, her parents, her brother, her sister, her. You know, the idea that maybe someday she'll have children, their children. She's the maiden aunt. Even though she's been married. She is the sister who is going to end up being the caretaker in our Italian heritage. There's always one that stays home and does that or becomes a nun or flight attendant in one of those careers. And if that's the case, you know, then we have a story about somebody who has to say oh, that's the role you put me in, but that's not the role I necessarily want to live. And so that's really what it's about. Because a lot of us are walking through life, there's a line out the door. People want to tell us how to do what we do, but that's not the way to do it. The way to do it is it for it to be self motivated. What fills you up? What makes you complete? Who is your life partner where it's not dictated by a culture. Just because he's the cutest guy in town and he's the most prosperous doesn't mean you have to marry him.
- [15:33]
Zibby Owens
Let that echo throughout the townspeople.
- [15:38]
Adriana Trigiani
That's right. In that town. Yeah, exactly right. Exactly right.
- [15:43]
Zibby Owens
Today's episode is sponsored by Wayfair. It is so much fun to entertain, particularly in the summertime when we can be outside and enjoy outdoor space with friends and family alike. If you're having a backyard get together, Wayfair is your one stop shop for outdoor entertaining. Cookout shop, patio tables, grills and dishware. Pool party? No problem. Kick back with lounge chairs, daybeds and umbrellas. Game night. Wayfair's got cornhole croquet and string lights to set the scene. And with fast and easy shipping, it has never been easier to get ready to party. So however you kick back outback, go to Wayfair for effortless entertaining and game filled gatherings. I particularly love the outdoor smokeless fire pit, which makes any gathering even more festive. And who doesn't love s'? Mores? It's so convenient that Wayfair has everything your home needs this warm weather season. Wayfair's huge selection of outdoor items makes it easy to find exactly what's right for you. In fact, while shopping for outdoor stuff, I got my daughter a vanity which has light bulbs and everything and she just loves it. So you can find anything. Plus, we got a new carpet on Wayfair recently too. Pink and white and she loves it. There is something for every style in every home, no matter your space or budget. Wayfair makes it easy to tackle your summer home goals with endless inspiration for every space and budget, including the outdoors. And there's free and easy delivery, even on the big stuff. No more huge delivery fees for patio furniture. Get big stuff like patio sets, gazebos, hot tubs, outdoor dining sets and more shipped free. Find all your outdoor must haves from seating to garden trellises, to pool lounges to trampolines, all in one convenient place. Shop outdoor furniture grills, lawn games, and way more for way less. Head to Wayfair.com right now to explore a huge outdoor selection that's W-A-F-A-I-R.com Wayfair Every style, every hum Today's episode is sponsored by Quints. With summer in full swing, I feel that familiar urge to refresh my closet. But I'm not trying to waste money on pieces I'll only wear once or for just one season. That's where Quince comes in. Their clothes are timeless, feel luxurious, look elevated, and the quality is way beyond what you'd expect for the price. It's the kind of wardrobe upgrade that just clicks. Think 100% European linen tops starting at $30, washable silk dresses and skirts and and soft cotton sweaters. Versatile warm weather pieces you'll reach for again and again. The best part? Everything with Quince is half the cost of similar brands. By working directly with top artisans and cutting out the middlemen, Quince gives you luxury without the markup. And Quince only works with factories that use safe, ethical and responsible manufacturing practices and premium fabrics and finishes. I love Quints. I love the sweaters. In particular the oversized cotton sweater for summer. And I can't recommend this anymore. I'm totally obsessed. Give your summer closet an upgrade with Quince. Go to Quince.com Zibby for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. That's Q-U I N C E.com Zibbee to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com Zibby Better Help Online Therapy bought this 30 second ad to remind you right now, wherever you are, to unclench your jaw, relax your shoulders, take a deep breath in and out. Feels better, right? That's 15 seconds of self care. Imagine what you could do with more. Visit betterhelp.com randompodcast for 10% off your first month of therapy. No pressure, just help. But for now just relax. So have you had an experience where your heart turned to dust?
- [20:05]
Adriana Trigiani
Well, that's an interesting question. Zip. I. I am someone I'm going to be really honest where I love what I do so much. That was my always my focus. So you know, crushes this or that and I really married the man I fell in love with. I did not fall in love with anybody else. Now is that weird People are going to write in because but and I'm going to take it a step further. I don't really like the that fact feeling of falling in love. There are people who are addicted to it. It made me sick. It's dizzying to me. Evidently something chemically happens in your brain and like. And while I love him and I'm still with him and we're married and all of that. I know you experienced this with Kyle, but it's like. It's a thing. It's like that. You know that I don't question it. Right when you start to question it. Well, you know what I say? Check the exits. Check the exit. Get the hell out of Dodge.
- [21:01]
Zibby Owens
Okay, wait. That's so interesting, the idea that one could be essentially allergic to falling in love. Isn't that a story in itself? You have to keep running away from love.
- [21:13]
Adriana Trigiani
Yeah. It's not that it wasn't pleasurable, but I found it very odd. I found it and then I've had friends tell me they love that feeling of that roller coaster for the first, you know, six weeks or whatever. And I'm like. For me, maybe I just don't like heights, I don't know. But it's just. I like the abiding part of love, of the mistake making part and the not being my best every day and then trying to do better. And you, you really know, if you love someone when they get sick, if they drive you crazy, better check the exits. I mean, but if you find yourself naturally, everything falls away. And I am caring for this person. I think that's a pretty good. Do you agree? I think that's a good indicator.
- [22:05]
Zibby Owens
I mean, do we have to extend this to dental work?
- [22:08]
Adriana Trigiani
No.
- [22:09]
Zibby Owens
Okay, then yes, I agree.
- [22:10]
Adriana Trigiani
That's the worst. That's the worst pain on the planet. Yeah. That's funny. No, I think that's what I like to wrestle with when I'm writing novels. I don't get to live everything, but I certainly can imagine everything. And if I can imagine it, then I can write it. And if I can write it, then I can make something manifest for the audience, for the reader, for the woman reading the book.
- [22:35]
Zibby Owens
So when you kept going back and writing more and more into this book on a day where maybe you didn't feel like writing so much, what was it that kept calling you to it?
- [22:46]
Adriana Trigiani
Well, you know, when you're in one of those places where it seems sort of hard, look down the road of your plot a little bit, and what you're gonna. This is just true of me for the writers listening, but I pull the scene that's waiting for me forward, and I actually did it. When we were editing the big Stone Gap movie, the editor had Reached a. He was bollocks up. And I went, take that scene there, put it here. And once we did that, then we had a path. So a lot of times it's not about staying stuck and trying to push through the stuck, but pull something forward that you know you're going to do. Because a lot of times what writers do is they know they have this big scene coming, so there's a build to it. Do the big scene, see what happens. Then you can. Then you can move it around and play with it.
- [23:32]
Zibby Owens
Excellent advice.
- [23:33]
Adriana Trigiani
Yeah. For me, in the book, there's. There's two. It's two, like, we call them comedy block scenes in television and film, but it's. They're. They're the family. Everybody's there. And so you have a myriad of voices, which. I love those scenes, like where there's a party and somebody shouts something. I love them. And there your clues are in that scene. Because from the big scene, you'll see where you paired off people and then that create. That can create the entree into the scene.
- [24:05]
Zibby Owens
So just basically write a party, write.
- [24:07]
Adriana Trigiani
A party, write a meal. Write people creating something together, something that they're doing that is a common purpose, and you'll find it in there.
- [24:17]
Zibby Owens
Like marble, perhaps.
- [24:21]
Adriana Trigiani
Getting that marble. Did you just love that scene when the marble's coming up? I wouldn't watch that happen. I love that marble coming off that tankard.
- [24:27]
Zibby Owens
I was literally thinking through this whole. I was like, oh, my gosh, how much research did she have to do? Like, did she know any of this before? Did you. I mean, this is a lot of detail.
- [24:37]
Adriana Trigiani
Well, I knew a little bit. A little bit. Just from my travels to Italy. I knew a little bit, but then I wanted to understand how they sell it, get it off the map. This also is interesting to me, like, how do they do that? Because I had my great grandfather David, which is David in Italian. David Perrine of Venice. Venetian. He was from the Veneto. He only had three fingers on one hand. And he took a job. He was a farmer. He ended up to be quite prosperous. Zippy. He, like, did a whole thing on the. Where he bought this piece of land in Pennsylvania. Just kept adding to it. He was very American, entrepreneurial, even though he was Italian. Venetian. Anyway, there's a whole story to how he lost those fingers in a quarry, Slate quarry in Pennsylvania. Because the most. The worst job in a quarry is the blaster, is the guy who handles the dynamite. And one of it was not stacked properly and it blew his fingers off. Well, I didn't mean to ruin our day, but learned to manage with the three. He was great, but that. I always wanted to understand how that happened. And so when I went to Carrara, now they shear it, okay? They block it. Shear. It's almost like they put points in it and they take it off, like in blocks in the old days. They blew it up and then what came down that wasn't shattered, they used and they realized they were wasting. So that. See, that's the stuff I get into. It's like. And going up the mountain and, well, where were the offices? I went in a trailer and that conjured all those scenes and the historian who's along for the ride and what all that meant and how she. She didn't know where her career was going to go. She didn't know where it was going to go. She knew. She knew how to do what she did, which was draft. But maybe there's something else for her.
- [26:36]
Zibby Owens
I feel like that analogy also applies to writing. Like, at first, you just keep blowing things up, and then as you get better, you can, like, fine tune it a little bit.
- [26:46]
Adriana Trigiani
You can see what's under. It's under better. But that takes time. That really takes time. You're making a great point about writing because you can know something for sure. You think. And then you get it down and you go, oh, that's not where this is supposed to go. And you work it out. You figure it out.
- [27:08]
Zibby Owens
So you spend your time writing, but you also are uplifting authors, talking to people, podcasts. You do so many different things.
- [27:15]
Adriana Trigiani
Well, you're my sister in crime with this.
- [27:18]
Zibby Owens
I'm just saying.
- [27:20]
Adriana Trigiani
Which I love, because you're a writer. Writer. You're a novelist, and you do this. Okay, look, I started doing this six years ago. I was terrible. And like, we, we. We get better as we do it, but I'm just deeply curious and I would have these conversations. Anyway, so I just started to think. A book comes in and I. And I get really interested. Like, like tomorrow I'm talking to David Litt about. About surfing. I wouldn't any more surf than the man in the moon. It's riveting. Today, Susan Morrison, who wrote the biography of Lorne Michaels, you've had these folks on. So you know them and their books are revelatory. And if I can help sell them for them, whatever I can do, I want to do that because put it in the hands of librarians, put it in the hands of readers, put it in the hands of people who want to Discuss things. You know, my mom was a librarian, and she said there's an answer for every problem in the world in the library. Any problem we have, you know, personal, spiritual, emotional, practical. There's a manual or there's a book or there's a point of view. So I love. I love doing it. So it's a lot of work that Zibby. We. We always call you Saint Zibby behind your back because we don't know how you do it. I. I like. I'm always. When I'm on an airplane, I've got three books with me I gotta finish or I gotta. You know. And you can paint it however you want, which is the beauty of this. But it's a huge service to the reader, to the listener right now. It really is, and I thank you for it. I think it's great.
- [28:55]
Zibby Owens
Well, I thank you, too. And I think, like you, I am also curious. And so, yes, of course, we're doing this for authors, but also for ourselves because it's so fascinating.
- [29:04]
Adriana Trigiani
Your brain gets. Don't you feel you're a better writer because you read at the volume you read at? That's the shocker to me, because when I was writing my novels and we were raising family, I didn't read a lot of fiction. I was writing it, so I didn't have time to read it. I enjoy it now. I really enjoy your work. I enjoy it, which I didn't have the chance to do before.
- [29:32]
Zibby Owens
Well, I did really love this book of yours, I have to say. It was really good.
- [29:36]
Adriana Trigiani
I loved that you loved it, and I love you and I thank you so much, because. Little trip to Italy. Not that. Couldn't you. Couldn't we always a trip to Italy? Always, always.
- [29:45]
Zibby Owens
When you lead a retreat there, Sign me up. I'm gonna come.
- [29:48]
Adriana Trigiani
Okay, baby. You got it. You got it. You got it.
- [29:51]
Zibby Owens
Congratulations.
- [29:52]
Adriana Trigiani
Thank you. Thank you.
- [29:53]
Zibby Owens
I'm so excited for you.
- [29:54]
Adriana Trigiani
Okay, thank you.
- [29:55]
Zibby Owens
Thank you. Bye.
- [29:56]
Adriana Trigiani
Take care, sweetie. I'll see you soon.
- [29:57]
Zibby Owens
You too. Okay. Thank you for listening to Totally Booked with Zibby, formerly Moms don't have Time to Read Books. If you loved the show, tell a friend, leave a review, follow me on Instagram, ibioens and spread the word. Thanks so much. Oh, and buy the books.
- [30:20]
Adriana Trigiani
With new McValue and McDonald's, you get more than you expect. So after a long day, buy a double cheeseburger and add a McChicken for a dollar, because saving with deals is always on the menu. With new MCvalues, prices and participation may vary valid for item of equal or lesser value. ACAST powers the World's best Podcasts Here's a show that we recommend do you like being educated on things that entertain but don't matter? Well, then you need to be listening to the Podcast with Knox and Jamie. Every Wednesday we put together an episode dedicated to delightful idiocy to give your brain a break from all the serious and important stuff. Whether we're deep diving a classic movie, dissecting the true meaning behind the newest slang, or dunking on our own listeners for their bad takes or cringy stories, we always approach our topics with humor and just a little bit of side eye. And we end every episode with recommendations on all the best new movies, books, TV shows or music. To find out more, just search up the Podcast with Knox and Jamie wherever you listen to podcasts and prepare to make Wednesday your new favorite day of the week.
- [31:24]
Zibby Owens
ACAST helps creators launch, grow and monetize their podcasts everywhere.
- [31:30]
Adriana Trigiani
Acast.com.