Amy Blumenfeld, SUCH GOOD PEOPLE: A Novel

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Podcast Summary: Amy Blumenfeld on "Such Good People: A Novel"

Podcast: Totally Booked with Zibby
Host: Zibby Owens
Guest: Amy Blumenfeld
Episode Title: Amy Blumenfeld, SUCH GOOD PEOPLE: A Novel
Release Date: July 14, 2025

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1. Introduction

In this episode of Totally Booked with Zibby, host Zibby Owens welcomes Amy Blumenfeld, the acclaimed author of "Such Good People: A Novel." Amy shares insights into her latest work, delving into its themes, characters, and the personal experiences that shaped its creation.

2. Amy Blumenfeld’s Background

Amy Blumenfeld brings a rich literary background to the conversation. Growing up in Queens, New York, she graduated from Barnard College and the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism, where she earned the James A. Wexler Award for National Reporting. Her journalistic prowess is evident in her essays and articles published in prominent outlets like The New York Times, Huffington Post, and Oprah Magazine. Amy's debut novel, The Cast, received critical acclaim, being selected as the New York Post's Best Book of the Week and winning the Independent Publisher Book Award in Popular Fiction.

3. Overview of "Such Good People: A Novel"

Amy provides a comprehensive overview of her novel, emphasizing its character-driven narrative centered around friendship and the complexities of loyalty.

"[...] it’s a character-driven novel. It’s about two working-class kids from Brooklyn and it's really a story about friendship. It's about the lengths you go to for the people you love."
— Amy Blumenfeld [04:12]

The story follows April and Rudy, best friends from a playground in Midwood, Brooklyn. Their lives take divergent paths when April attends an elite private school while Rudy stays back to support his father, an apartment building superintendent. A pivotal incident leads to Rudy’s incarceration, drastically altering both their lives. As the narrative unfolds, April builds a successful life in Chicago, while grappling with her loyalty to Rudy upon his early release.

4. Themes Explored in the Novel

Amy delves into the intricate themes her novel tackles:

• Divided Loyalties: The protagonist faces a heart-wrenching decision between her flourishing life and her unwavering friendship with Rudy.

  "It's really about these divided loyalties that so many of us have, the blurred lines between right and wrong, those gray areas."
  — Amy Blumenfeld [06:00]

• Complex Human Behavior: Characters are portrayed with depth, showcasing their capacity for both good and flawed actions. Amy emphasizes that none of her characters are inherently bad; instead, they navigate morally ambiguous situations.

  "Not one of the characters in this book is a bad person, but they can do bad things."
  — Amy Blumenfeld [19:57]

• Impact of the Criminal Justice System: Drawing from her upbringing around her father, a judge, Amy integrates authentic legal and judicial elements, highlighting their ripple effects on personal relationships and communities.

5. Author’s Inspiration and Writing Process

Amy attributes much of her novel’s depth to her personal experiences and her father’s influence in the legal field.

"I grew up in a home with the scales of justice... It was very much a fabric of the values of my family."
— Amy Blumenfeld [07:39]

Her father's transition from a public defender to a criminal court judge exposed her to the intricacies of the legal system from a young age. This environment fostered her fascination with human behavior and justice, which she seamlessly weaves into her storytelling.

Amy also shares the serendipitous inspiration behind her characters, stemming from a newsletter about a halfway house that featured a teacher with a past tied to the criminal justice system. This real-life snippet sparked the creation of key characters in her novel.

6. Judaism and Being a Jewish Writer

The conversation shifts to Amy’s contributions to "On Being Jewish Now," reflecting on her identity as a Jewish writer in today’s climate.

"I feel like I'm in some small way making a difference and speaking to people."
— Amy Blumenfeld [16:44]

While her current novel doesn't overtly focus on Judaism, Amy expresses a desire to incorporate more cultural and religious elements in her future works, influenced by her participation in the Jewish literary community.

7. Upcoming Projects and Future Endeavors

Amy hints at future projects, mentioning that she has two ideas in the pipeline, one of which is an offshoot from her essay in "On Being Jewish Now." She is exploring ways to merge these ideas, continuing her exploration of complex societal themes through personal narratives.

8. Conclusion

Zibby Owens and Amy Blumenfeld conclude the episode by reflecting on the importance of dissecting human behavior and the nuances of personal relationships. Amy expresses gratitude for being part of the literary conversations that strive to make a difference.

"Thanks so much for having me."
— Amy Blumenfeld [23:27]

Zibby encourages listeners to engage with Amy’s book and follow her ongoing literary journey, emphasizing the value of understanding and compassion in storytelling.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Character-Driven Narrative:
  "As the title suggests, this is a character driven novel. It's about two working class kids from Brooklyn and it's really a story about friendship."
  — Amy Blumenfeld [03:45]

• Divided Loyalties:
  "It's really about these divided loyalties that so many of us have, the blurred lines between right and wrong, those gray areas."
  — Amy Blumenfeld [06:00]

• Family Influence:
  "I grew up in a home with the scales of justice and justice, justice shall you pursue, framed on our living room wall."
  — Amy Blumenfeld [07:39]

• Character Complexity:
  "Not one of the characters in this book is a bad person, but they can do bad things."
  — Amy Blumenfeld [19:57]

• Jewish Identity:
  "I feel like I'm in some small way making a difference and speaking to people."
  — Amy Blumenfeld [16:44]

• Future Writing:
  "I actually have two ideas, and I'm sort of trying to combine them."
  — Amy Blumenfeld [22:52]

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Final Thoughts

Amy Blumenfeld’s "Such Good People: A Novel" offers a poignant exploration of friendship, loyalty, and the intricate dance between personal aspirations and relational responsibilities. Her background in journalism and her experiences growing up around the legal system lend authenticity and depth to her narrative. Listeners are encouraged to delve into Amy’s work to experience a richly woven story that mirrors the complexities of real-life relationships and moral dilemmas.

Transcript

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[Zibby Owens]

Hi, this is Zibby Owens and you're listening to Totally Booked with Zibby, formerly Moms don't have Time to Read Books. In my daily show, I interview today's latest best selling, buzziest or underrated authors and story creators whose work I think is worth your time. And as a bookstore owner, publisher, author, and obviously podcaster, I get a comprehensive look at everything that's coming out and spend my time curating the best books so you don't have to stay in the know. Get insider insights and connect with guests like I do every single day. For more information, go to zibbymedia.com and follow me on Instagram ibbeowensk Amy Blumenfeld is the author of Such Good A Novel. Amy grew up in Queens, New York. She is a graduate of Barnard College and Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism, where she received the James A. Wexler Award for National Reporting. Her essays and articles have appeared on the COVID of People in the New York Times, the Huffington Post, oh, the Oprah Magazine, as well as in George, where she worked as a staff editor and writer. Amy's debut novel, the Cast was selected as the New York Post Best Book of the Week and named winner of the Independent Publisher Book Award in Popular Fiction. She has also been a contributing author to a bestselling anthology and two nonfiction books. Amy lives in New York with her husband and daughter. Welcome, Amy. Thanks for coming back on Totally Booked with Zibi to talk about such good people. Your second novel, so exciting.

[Amy Blumenfeld]

It is my pleasure and honor to be here. Thanks for having me.

[Zibby Owens]

We were just starting to reminisce, but I made you wait so we could talk about it in front of other people because why waste such good material stuff? But you were here in person for the cast in 2018, which is the year I started doing this. And oh my gosh, so much has changed.

[Amy Blumenfeld]

It feels like yesterday, but so much has changed. So it's, it's a wild ride.

[Zibby Owens]

Yet I am still here at my desk in the exact same spot. So, you know, plus a change or whatever. Oh my gosh. Okay. Well, first of all, thank you for including me in your acknowledgments of this book. That was very touching. Thank you. Tell listeners what the book is about, please.

[Amy Blumenfeld]

As the title suggests, this is a character driven novel. It's about two working class kids from Brooklyn and it's really a story about friendship. It's about the lengths you go to for the people you love. But at its very core and its heart, it's about these two kids, a boy and a girl, who are best friends growing up in Brooklyn. Think of like the Wonder Years, Winnie Cooper and Kevin Arnold. Sort of like that.

[Zibby Owens]

A picture of them showed up on my Instagram feed literally last night, like Winnie's.

[Amy Blumenfeld]

Oh, really?

[Zibby Owens]

Like her own pictures of it. And I don't know, Instagram must have read your mind that you were going to come on my show and talk about it. But anyway, keep going.

[Amy Blumenfeld]

So anyway, they meet as kids in a playground in Midwood, Brooklyn, and very quickly they become best of friends. Their families become extended families. And then when they are ready for college, she goes off to a very elite private school. And he is the son of an apartment building super and he stays home to help his dad and he goes to community college. The second semester of their freshman year, she invites him. She happens to be in the city on the Upper west side for a meeting with her newspaper club from college. She invites him to come and hang out with her and he, when he arrives at this venue, he sees her in the back corner of the bar with a man who is clearly inebriated and very handsy. And she looks very uncomfortable with her back pressed up against the wall. And he goes in very gracefully and tries to, you know, extricate her from the situation. And one thing leads to another.

[Zibby Owens]

They leave.

[Amy Blumenfeld]

And the next day, Rudy is arrested. A week later, April is expelled from her elite college. Shortly thereafter, he is sentenced to 15 years in prison. And after that, she meets an attorney and ends up falling in love, moving to Chicago, having three beautiful kids, a wonderful career, a beautiful community, and a great life. Shortly before the 15 years, he is up for parole, gets an early release. And the headlines explode about his release, about her background. And at that time, her husband is running for office in Chicago. All of this impacts her kids, her life, her friends, her husband's career, her marriage. And she is really torn between being there for her best friend who sacrificed everything for her, and this beautiful life that she has created for herself. So it's really about these divided loyalties that so many of us have, the blurred lines between right and wrong, those gray areas, areas in life that we all struggle with because not everything is black and white. And it's also about journalism. I started out as a journalist, and a fact checker was my first job. And there is a main character in this book who is a reporter, and she. Well, I don't want to ruin anything, but she plays a major part in this. And so it's also about fact checking and journalism and the truth emerging.

[Zibby Owens]

Oh, my gosh. Wow. That's a great pitch, by the way. That was very well done, including all the things. Love it. You start the book with a note to your parents, or maybe it's at the back. But anyway, there's a note about your parents and what they've given you and your dad's judgeship, if that's even how you say it, and how that informs right and wrong and justice and what that means, and your mother's sort of unending compassion and encouraging you to look. And you have this image of yourself as a little girl, like, always looking at the families of the accused, right or wrong, no matter which side, and having compassion for them while someone they love is going through this. Talk a little bit about that and how your own experience informed the whole. The whole narrative.

[Amy Blumenfeld]

I grew up in a home with the scales of justice and justice, justice shall you pursue, framed on our living room wall. And it was very much a fabric of the values of my family. There are many members of my family who are attorneys, and it was just very much a part of our value system. When I was young, my dad was a public defender, and he would bring a lot of his colleagues, would come to our house and sit around the dining room table and discuss their cases and plot out their defense. And I remember, like, listening to the jargon and having no clue what they were talking about. But, like, those words seeped into my brain. And then when I was in seventh grade, my dad became a judge, a criminal court judge. And I would go to work with my dad and sit on the bench with him. And so it was like. It was incredible. It was like watching a play, you know, these. And I paid attention, as we all writers do, to, like, you know, the body language and the way people act and the words that were coming out. And so I'd watch the prosecutor, I'd watch the defense attorneys. But what really stuck with me was in my line of sight, while I was sitting next to my dad on the bench were the pews, the people in the audience section. And I didn't know if those people were on the side of the defense or if they were on the side of the prosecution. But you're. When you're in arraignments, that's when somebody's first been arrested. And it's, you know, it's really scary. You're in shock. You have no idea what's going to happen with your loved one or what's going to happen with the case. So I'm looking at these people, and I have no idea what's going through their minds and their backstories and, you know, why they're even there. And so that has that stuck with me throughout the years. And so when I was done with the cast and I was thinking about my next book, I knew that I wanted to do something that was related to the criminal justice system. I didn't go to law school. I'm not planning to go to law school. It's not my thing. However, I wanted it similar to the way I did the cast, which was a. Was a medical story at the heart of it. It was about a child who had been sick and how that illness, as a patient, had a ripple effect on all of the loved ones around that patient and how it changed their lives in terms of faith, their religious practice, their marriage, their priorities, their friendships. And I wanted to take that model and put it into the criminal justice system and not talk about social justice on a high level, but I wanted to bring it down and call it down to the very basic level, which was friendships and family. And so, in a way, it's like the cast in terms of that ripple effect of one experience on all other people. So that was my inspiration, was sitting, you know, growing up around my dad, watching the people in the pews. And then, like I said, while I was thinking about what to write about, around the time the cast came out, one of my dad's friends was involved with a halfway house on an administrative level, and we were invited to a gala. We were not able to go, but we started getting their newsletters. So I actually read some of the newsletters. And in one of the newsletters, they were profiling some of the teachers who were helping out and working at this halfway house, helping people re enter society. And there was a couple of the teachers who had their own experience in the criminal justice system being incarcerated. And one of the teachers happened to be someone who had gone to an Ivy League institution who in her senior year had some problems and ended up getting expelled. And her life exploded. And she, you know, she reformed and everything was okay and she ended up teaching at this place. But I was like, wow, that's interesting. So that's how I got the idea for a teacher. And then I just created it and ran with the rest of it. And the first character I created was April, and she was a teacher. And then I, you know, from there I moved over to her best friend and made Rudy the one who had the problem.

[Zibby Owens]

Wow. I mean, I usually throw the newsletters away unopened. And to think of all the potential novels that are in the trash. This is a huge advertisement for opening.

[Amy Blumenfeld]

Reading the mail, right? Exactly. Normally I wouldn't, but it just, just happened that day. I was flipping, I was like, wow, that's really interesting.

[Zibby Owens]

Some might say it was, you know, universe. Yeah, yeah. It's been shared.

[Amy Blumenfeld]

Yes, exactly.

[Zibby Owens]

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[Zibby Owens]

Speaking of besherd, actually. So you are one of the contributors to On Being Jewish Now. Thank you so very much for that. Just on the notion on the subject, sorry, of Judaism in general and being a Jewish writer today. How has this been for you? You have a new book coming out you've been touring with. I'm Being Jewish Now a bit like, how are you feeling about the whole environment?

[Amy Blumenfeld]

Well, you know, my last book came out in 2018, so it's been quite a while. You know, it's been several years. And so I don't know how that's going to impact me being a Jewish writer now with this new book we shall see. But it has been an absolute pleasure to be a part of this process. You know, you really created a movement and I've gained so many friends through participating in this book. I've loved being a part of it. You know, I'm not typically a very loud, outspoken person, but I can do that through writing and through these book events, through On Being Jewish Now I feel like I'm in some small way making a difference and speaking to people. And it's a tribute to you. And thank you for creating that.

[Zibby Owens]

Thank you. That was not designed to be.

[Amy Blumenfeld]

I know, I know. But self serving it is.

[Zibby Owens]

I'm curious, but thank you. I was actually, I was just flipping through the Jewish Book Council like book of all the books coming out who are authors on tour and I saw your book in there. I was just like, wow, I can't believe it. Like there's so many, there's so many Jewish book, Jewish authors on tour. Like everybody's talking about so many people are too scared to publish or too scared to write or is this environment too difficult at the current time? But this big volume of books, the directory of Jewish books, so to speak, is speaking differently.

[Amy Blumenfeld]

I mean, it also is sort of making me think, you know, the characters in this book and such good people are not outwardly Jewish and they were in my first book in the cast. So I'm thinking going forward, if I write another Book, which I hope to do, I will, I think, include more Judaism probably than I did in this book. There's cultural references, but not like true, true as much as the Tzedek Zedex Herdo of the justice, justice shall you pursue. Which is, you know, a shout out to the painting that was in my house growing up, which I put into the. Into this.

[Zibby Owens]

Wow. Okay. April doesn't share necessarily everything with her husband. Talk about marriage and the secrets we keep or the. The things we don't want to talk about on difficult days and the effect of that on relationships. How many secrets are you keeping?

[Amy Blumenfeld]

Secrets am I keeping. No, It's. I feel like for April and Peter, you know, he knew what he was getting into. She told him up front. He knew the deal. You know, part of the reason that he wanted to take this job in Chicago was to sort of help her start a new chapter in her life. And he was no fool. He knew this could creep up at some point. And I think Rudy's early release was just an unexpected twist, and he was blindsided, and he didn't handle it well. And I think that was one of, you know, my goals in all of this, is that not one of the characters in this book is a bad person, but they can do bad things. And I think that's true in life. You know, people have layers to them, and there's a. I don't want to spoil anything, but there are several characters in this book who think that they're doing the right thing and they have the best of intentions, and it may not always work out as they hope, and then they try to reverse course and ask for forgiveness. There's a lot of layers. There are a lot of layers in this.

[Zibby Owens]

So you talked about starting out with the characters in the order in which you kind of conceived of them and how the plot came to be. And then what did you do? Did you have a master outline for the whole thing or how long did it take? You said there's been a break. How long was it spent writing this book versus other books? Did you start something that didn't go anywhere? Like, what has happened in between?

[Amy Blumenfeld]

Well, I had this idea the whole time. I stopped and started and stopped and started, and eventually it came together.

[Zibby Owens]

I.

[Amy Blumenfeld]

You know, I. When you get ideas, sometimes I think as writers, you know, like, it just hits you inside, and you can't let go of certain things. And other things you can sort of let go. This one I couldn't let go of. I don't know if it's this deep psychological thing that I didn't go to law school. And this was my way of saying, okay, I'm making some contribution to the criminal justice community. But, yeah, I had the characters first, and then I sort of developed this general plot. And then I had points A, B and C for each chapter. And I eventually got there. Didn't always stay according to plan, but I got the major points in each chapter. And then I revised again and revised again. And that's how it. It all comes together. Rudy, the name Rudy came to me because my dad was another source of inspiration for this. My dad, when he went to law school, he went to gw and he moved into the dorms there. And the first week, he saw a notice on the bulletin board in the dorm, and it said, free room and board if you take a job at the D.C. jail. Living in the officers quarters and interviewing inmates. So he's like, cool. So he moved out of the dorm and he moved into the D.C. jail. And he ended up interviewing inmates and figured that was a great experience for somebody who wanted to be a criminal defense lawyer. And so one of the inmates that he interviewed was this guy, Hollicott Bradley, who I named one of the characters in the book, Hollakott Bradley. And he brought this poem, if by Rudyard Kipling, to my dad and to discuss it with him. And that story has stayed in me forever. And. And so Rudy's name comes from the Rudyard Company.

[Zibby Owens]

Oh, that's so nice. I love that.

[Amy Blumenfeld]

But those are, like. There were little things that I knew I wanted, and then, you know, it takes twists and turns. And the hardest part was actually getting the research down, the medical and the legal aspects, you know, fine tuning all of that. That was the hardest part for me. So I spoke to a lot of doctors and several lawyers in getting the New York Penal Code down and understanding, you know, what would make ineffective assistance of counsel and the jargon and the bail amounts and the time away and making sure everything was accurate. So it was. You know, that took time, too.

[Zibby Owens]

Yeah, I bet. So have you started your next book?

[Amy Blumenfeld]

I have the idea. It's marinating. I actually have two ideas, and I'm sort of trying to combine them. One of them is an offshoot from the essay from On Being Jewish.

[Zibby Owens]

Interesting. Inspired by who Knew?

[Amy Blumenfeld]

So that's it.

[Zibby Owens]

Amazing. Amy, thank you so much. Such good people coming soon. Thank you for talking to me. Thank you for contributing to the I'm Being Jewish now book. And thank you for your interest in people, because what's more interesting than sort of dissecting human behavior, right?

[Amy Blumenfeld]

Thanks so much for having me. Okay.

[Zibby Owens]

All right, take care. Bye Bye. Thank you for listening to Totally Booked with Zibby, formerly Moms don't have Time to Read Books. If you loved the show, tell a friend, leave a review, follow me on Instagram, Iby Owens and Spread the Word. Thanks so much. Oh, and buy the books.

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