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Hi, this is Zibby Owens, and you're listening to Totally Booked with Zibby, formerly Moms don't have Time to Read Books. In my daily show, I interview today's latest best selling, buzziest or underrated authors and story creators whose work I think is worth your time as a bookstore owner, publisher, author, and obviously Podcaster. I get a comprehensive look at everything that's coming out and spend my time curating the best books so you don't have to stay in the know, get insider insights and connect with guests like I do every single day. For more information, go to zibbedia.com and follow me on Instagram. Iby Owens Anna Mitchell is the author of they Will Tell youl the World Is On Little Rebellions and Finding youg Way. Anna is a Louisiana born writer based in Texas. They Will Tell youl the World Is Yours is her third book, but her first about the spiritual life. Welcome Anna. Thank you so much for coming on Totally booked. I'm so excited to talk about they Will Tell you the World is your on Little Rebellions and Finding your way. I need my glasses on. It's so pathetic. Anyway, congrats.
Anna Mitchell
Thank you. Yeah, no, it's a long title and subhead. I had a lot to get in.
Zibby Owens
There, but it works. It tells the story. You get a total sense of what it's like. Okay. Talk about what the book is about. Talk about how it's taken you all this time that you had this idea so long ago and it's finally coming to fruition. I'm so happy to hear that.
Anna Mitchell
Yes. So the book, it's different. It's 85 vignettes, little short pieces, and they basically just track a woman's life from birth, pretty methodically, all the way up through midlife. And it's the beginning of the book. It kind of ramps up as she's just growing and learning and taking everything in and just really not even realizing all the ways in which the world is influencing her and kind of turning her and directing her. And then there comes a point where she starts to see what's going on and there's just kind of her reaction to that, which it sometimes is kind of a beautiful unhinging and sometimes is messy. And then there's the resolution in the end. So I have written vignettes. I think what you're referring to a very long time ago, more than two decades. And I was told at that point that they were not publishable, which is probably very true, like, very good advice. I was starting out, hadn't published anything, and so I walked away from it. I was like, well, I'll just learn to go write a novel and do all those things and.
Zibby Owens
Which you did.
Anna Mitchell
Which I did. I did, yes. And I've also, I've worked as a writer for a very long time. I worked in ad agencies first. I've worked in editorial, so. But I was kind of maybe a little bit, along with the main character in this book, sort of doing what everyone had told me that I should do in order to progress. And so it's not that I didn't love what I'd written, but I just hit this point, I guess, four or five years ago where I was like, I have just been writing what other people want me to write for so long now. And it was like. It wasn't that I didn't like the projects or the people I was with, but I just felt like it had been a very long time since I'd written anything that was, like, had gotten deep in me and pulled anything deep in me out. And I was like, you know what? It probably won't be publishable, but I'm just gonna do it. I don't really care. And so I just. So that's when I started this book and kind of returned to the vignette form and just kind of came alive for writing again. I don't know. It was just. It was. I just thought it was so sweet. I'd really given up. I mean, I literally, to my husband was like, when I finish this, this is really the point. I'm gonna go find something else to do with my life. But then by the end, he was like, you just. You're different about writing again. I don't think he'd ever, even, in our time together, known me to love writing. I think it had always sat on me a little bit of something I was striving for, you know?
Zibby Owens
Interesting.
Anna Mitchell
Yeah.
Zibby Owens
Oh, my gosh. Well, you had written this column, this monthly column. Are you still doing that boots?
Anna Mitchell
Yeah.
Zibby Owens
So you write advice regularly, and to do that, it uses one part of your brain that.
Anna Mitchell
This is.
Zibby Owens
This is like a different part of the brain. Right. Not that one is better or worse, but just like, yes, writing. But there's so many different pieces of the writing puzzle.
Anna Mitchell
I think that's so true. And I feel like it's. It's been a constant balance in my life because just with writing professionally to, like, pay the mortgage and do all the things, like, you're always answering to a client, Right? And so then there's that side, and then there's the part of me that wanted. I really wanted to write something in my community. I live in, like, a small town in Texas, and we have a magazine here, and I was like, I just. I want to be writing here. So for 14 years, I've written a monthly column for them, and it is it's like advice and it's humor and it's. It's like in the voice of a country woman. And she's very gritty and raw and probably gives really misguided advice a lot of the times. But the point is more just to kind of look at the bigger picture of life instead of getting. And so it is. Those are all different facets of this bigger picture. And I in my life have found so many times where I've just had to like recalibrate and be like, I've gone too far, you know, into one side. And that's what this book was a little bit. Was just coming back and saying like, why are you. Why are you here in the beginning? You know, why are you doing this? So. But I. I do love having different projects and different things to jump around to.
Zibby Owens
It just.
Anna Mitchell
I mean, it's like anything. It's just being able to acknowledge like, oh wait, I've gone too deep here. Like pull back. You know, it's. And we all do that.
Zibby Owens
I know. It's like we all live in one of those sound rooms where like someone's singing. I don't know how to describe. And like all those buttons, there's so many buttons, so many levers to adjust constantly and then of something changes, like because every time a new singer comes in, you have to readjust so.
Anna Mitchell
It's so true.
Zibby Owens
Can I read one of these? Do you mind? No, there's so many. I'll try this one. I have like 20 dog eared. I don't know. Sing. I'll show you some of the ones I loved on learning. Sing. Cicada. Sing. I'm going to read Violence guys. I also loved Conspiracy theory and wherever you go, part three. But anyway, here's Violet Skies. They will tell you the sky is violet. Your eyes, you will be told, see blue because they can't handle the truth. This will shake you more deeply than you expect. You will stay up three days in a row just to see if you can. Just to see if needing sleep is a myth too. This is what your eyes will. Bolts of lightning on a sunny day. Corn on the cob in an empty bowl. A naked man, invisible to everyone else standing in the doorway. When you tell this list to the friend who walks with you to physics, he will say it sounds like something that might happen in Amsterdam. This will make you cry. Because Anne Frank, she never even made it to the age you are now. You will say you don't know why you are crying. You've never even been To Amsterdam, and he will put his arm around your bulging backpack and say, you probably just need to get some sleep. Oh, but sleep. For so long you thought it was the thing that couldn't be trusted. Dreams of all those people and places mishmashed in ways that were shockingly out of sequence, yet felt so right. You would wake up ready to shake it all off because after all, it wasn't real. But now here you are in the middle of the day, moved by thoughts of a dead girl, kept away from a purple sky. How to know which is the truth. How to know what you need to live by. So good.
Anna Mitchell
Oh, I'm glad you like it. I was like, you know, I think it's. It's just been. It's been such a gift to get to, like, step into just. Or step off, I guess, just the train of, you know, of where everything has to be linear and move forward and get in it. And so. I don't know. It was just really beautiful to hear you read it. I'm like, that's like, kind of what I would have always labeled as, like, all my weirdness. But it is just, you know, when you finally like, kind of let. Just let out how you think and who you are, and it's just been a really different process for me.
Zibby Owens
Well, all your weirdness, so to speak, that's the art that people respond to. Right. I mean, you just put out the generic stuff nobody ever really sees themselves because it's just so anodyne, I guess.
Anna Mitchell
Right, right. But I think now where we are with. Where it's just this constant. It's just this constant call for more and more content. Right. And so then it is like to. I think. I feel. I feel that a lot of just like, produce, produce, produce, whether in the professional side or wherever. And so I think that that that's like an interesting challenge, I think, to. To resist against that, because you can't. You can't get to the stuff that's different and true.
Zibby Owens
Yep. And what about. So you're also deputy editor of Magnolia. Are you still. Or not anymore?
Anna Mitchell
I was. I'm not anymore. Yeah. I've worked. So Magnolia is based here in Waco, and I spent many years over there and loved it, but now I freelance pretty full time, so.
Zibby Owens
Because that's also, you know, being responsible for writers and getting the best from them, too, which is yet another skill set that you have to. That comes to bear on writing.
Anna Mitchell
And I do. I love editing, and I love. I love that process of like, building writers up and I think especially just having been on the other side of it for so long where you're like, oh, will somebody answer my pitch? Oh, well, somebody. You know, I had, I had always been an advertising kind of trying to get into editorial, into books and all the things. And then when I had this opportunity to work on the magazine side, I was like, oh, well, now I get to be that person and like, create the culture of just, I don't know, finding writers and like, and lifting it up and having it be a good experience. So. But I also just really love shepherding stories from start to finish. I think that's. And it makes you appreciate as a writer kind of that process too, and what people are bringing to your stories. Like, I don't fear it now. Like, I used to fear it. Like, what are they going to change? What's it going to be? You know, but now I'm like, oh, they're going to bring like a whole other side. It's going to be, it's going to be interesting. You know, I still fight for what I want, but I listen a lot more to what people offer now that I've been an editor.
Zibby Owens
Wow. What is something you expected? Obviously this is the crux of the book, right? But you personally, something that you thought was so expected in life. And then of course it's completely different because that's kind of what it is. Like all the things people tell you to expect. And then of course, life goes a different way. Nothing is safe, nothing is. You can't take anything for granted. Like, you know, what is it? What is like your main, main thing that you would say?
Anna Mitchell
I don't know, all I can think of is like marriage, which is just like not, you know, I. So I think that that just the, you know, that experience of that of, of having one person that you're just like, you know, walking through and, and just the depth and the difficulty of it. I just think I, I just didn't know, you know, I hope that now in our, how, in our culture, with like our podcast culture, are like informed people of everything culture. I wonder, I wonder be like, for people that are stepping into like, long term relationships in their lives, if they'll be a little bit more better equipped than I personally felt for like, just how hard it can be.
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I was at an event recently and this I was. I had made some joke in my talk about, you know, the stress of having kids or something like that. And she like, quite seriously said to me, after she's like, she. Do you regret being a mom? And I was like, no, of course. No. It's like, the greatest thing in my life. And she's like, oh, okay. Because, like, I don't know. I'm debating. And I was like, okay, great. And she's like, you know, a lot of people, there's this whole thing now of, like, regretting, you know, motherhood regrets or something, like on TikTok. And I was like, what? She's like, yeah, my whole feed is about moms who regret ever becoming moms. Did you know that this was happening?
Anna Mitchell
No, I didn't know that was happening. No.
Zibby Owens
I'm like, TikTok can make people think anything. This is, like, the extinction of our species right there.
Anna Mitchell
I know. Really can. But I do think that's interesting, because it's like. I think I have a tendency, too, to joke about things that are, like, going on in my. I mean, because to me, that's where I really, like, connect with people. I'm like, okay, this is hard. This is hard for you, too. Let's laugh about it.
Zibby Owens
Because it is.
Anna Mitchell
And so I think that especially. I do that a lot with marriage, kind of within the context of writing and, like, Boots my column, like, things like that. And so I have wondered before if people take that of like, oh, you know. But I think it's good to be able to talk about the bad and the good. And. And it doesn't necessarily mean that you want to, like, unspool everything, you know, it just means that you're trying to. I mean, a lot of times I feel like it's because I'm trying to figure out how to go farther in, but because my everything in me is like, run. But, like, I want to figure this out, so.
Zibby Owens
And get advice. Right?
Anna Mitchell
Yeah. And, like, how does anybody. Anybody have suggestion.
Zibby Owens
Yeah. Especially when we're not supposed to talk about marriage as much. Right. You can't. It's not like it used to be. And all of a sudden, you know. But yeah. When you think about all of the vignettes, are there favorites of yours, or is there one that you're like, oh, thank God for this one? Because this is the one that kept coming back to me in my head where I was like, someday I'll get this out, or I really want to get this one out, you know?
Anna Mitchell
So the vignettes are like. I think it's funny because a lot of people. And people can read them and take them as they want, but I think it's the way the book Feels. It feels like it's kind of about my life specifically. And so I've gotten a lot of people being like, even though it's fiction, like, kind of being like, but is it really? You know, And I guess people always think that to an extent, you know, But I've gone back and looked at them because really they're all such collages kind of. I can even. I can pinpoint in so many, like, stories that close friends told me or experiences that I had. Or, like, one Easter Best is actually kind of based just on a picture that I have of, like, a childhood Easter by a large tree and, like, Charles, where we were living at the time. And it just kind of. That picture, that image from my childhood had always been there. And then like, a story just kind of grew out of it. So I think I. I love the ones that are. That have, like, those kinds of visual images. To me, like, on Learning is another one. I love that I was like, pulling something out of the oven two days ago and just like, all of a sudden started, because I do kind of have most of them memorized now. It just started running through my head and I was like, oh, I think this is a good sign that it's actually, like, really penetrated in me, you know? But I love the repetitive nature of unlearning because I think that that speaks to how we just kind of go through our days and we just don't even realize all the things that we're picking up or we're showing. And it's not necessarily something to change, but I think just being aware of it adds kind of a depth and a beauty too, you know?
Zibby Owens
Totally. Oh, my gosh. Do you have more? Like, now that this has sold and finally you're like, yes. Will this set the stage for future vignettes or. I know I've been on your sub stack and everything, so I know you're constantly writing, but.
Anna Mitchell
Yeah, I did. I started a substack that just. That sends out a vignette every two weeks. Because, I mean, it's so. It's so awesome just to, I don't know, be able to like, these things don't sit in our computers anymore. You know, I remember it's like, yes. Being. Having written for a long time, it's like you just write things. You're like, world ever going to see it. And now it's like things like substack. I just love being able to connect and send out vignettes more immediately to people. But. But I have been working on a larger Book, it's about grief and like every day, like the everyday small griefs. And it's more around this idea where this one's around, they will tell you kind of is the beginning. This is around. It can happen like this, like grief and then like, also the process of healing and how those two weave together. Wow, that's amazing. Yeah. I decided to tackle something super light and easy. Why not?
Zibby Owens
Oh, my gosh. Are there models? Or maybe not models, but books that you take a lot of inspiration from and are they poetry? There's something very poetic about this. I feel like you have, like a Maggie Smith kind of vibe in a way.
Anna Mitchell
Oh, I love Maggie Smith. Yeah, I do. I mean, I do. I read a lot of poetry. I read a lot of things that I don't write. You know, like, I'm. I read outside. I read a lot of, like, non fiction, I think non fiction, like theology. There were. There were a lot of things like that that I was reading that I was really inspired by at the time. So I don't think it's necessarily. There's not one place that I go. I usually. My. My stack is usually just a total mix of like 18 different random things. And I could draw a line for you, but, like, it probably wouldn't make sense to anyone else, you know, that's okay. I think that's what I love. I don't know. That's what I love about the library, I guess.
Zibby Owens
So how would you answer this? Today they will tell you the world is yours, but.
Anna Mitchell
They would just be. I don't know. I don't. I guess they would. They'd be trying to keep you from seeing the truth. You know, I just. I think that that's how I view it is, like, a lot of things are just a big misdirect, you know, Keep you busy, keep you distracted, keep you running and. As opposed to, like, having goodness, like, right here.
Zibby Owens
I love that. Oh, my gosh, Anna, thank you so much. This is great. They will tell you the world is yours. Congratulations. And I'm so glad that you showed us your weird side, because it's pretty awesome.
Anna Mitchell
Thank you.
Zibby Owens
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Podcast Summary: Totally Booked with Zibby
Episode: Anna Mitchell, THE WILL TELL YOU THE WORLD IS YOURS: On Little Rebellions and Finding Your Way
Release Date: June 14, 2025
In this engaging episode of Totally Booked with Zibby, host Zibby Owens welcomes Anna Mitchell, a Louisiana-born writer based in Texas. Anna discusses her latest work, THE WILL TELL YOU THE WORLD IS YOURS: On Little Rebellions and Finding Your Way, a collection of vignettes exploring a woman's journey from birth through midlife, delving into themes of self-discovery and spiritual growth.
Anna provides an insightful overview of her book, composed of 85 vignettes that chronicle the protagonist's life. She explains how the narrative begins with the character absorbing the world's influences unconsciously, gradually becoming aware of them and reacting in both beautiful and messy ways, leading to resolution.
Anna Mitchell [03:53]: "It's 85 vignettes, little short pieces, and they basically just track a woman's life from birth, pretty methodically, all the way up through midlife."
Anna shares her long-standing relationship with writing, highlighting her initial focus on ad agencies and editorial work. She reveals how two decades ago, she attempted to write vignettes but was discouraged, leading her to pivot towards novel writing. However, after years of writing to others' expectations, she returned to the vignette form to reconnect with her authentic voice.
Anna Mitchell [05:00]: "I have just been writing what other people want me to write for so long now. ... I just started this book and kind of returned to the vignette form and just kind of came alive for writing again."
Anna discusses the balance between her professional writing roles and personal creative projects. She emphasizes the importance of recalibrating to maintain authenticity and depth in her work, ensuring that she doesn't lose herself in the demands of producing content.
Anna Mitchell [07:46]: "I've just had to like recalibrate and be like, I've gone too far, you know, into one side."
Zibby reads one of Anna's vignettes, Violet Skies, highlighting its poetic and vivid imagery. Anna expresses her joy in hearing Zibby read her work, noting how the creative process allows her to transcend linear storytelling and embrace her unique perspective.
Zibby Owens [08:23]: [Reads "Violet Skies" vignette]
Anna Mitchell [09:52]: "It's been such a gift to step off the train of where everything has to be linear."
When asked about her inspirations, Anna cites a diverse range of sources, including poetry, non-fiction, and theology. She appreciates the eclectic mix of influences that shape her storytelling, allowing her to create rich, multifaceted narratives.
Anna Mitchell [21:24]: "I read a lot of poetry... non-fiction, like theology... it's a total mix of like 18 different random things."
Anna reveals her plans to expand her creative endeavors beyond the current book. She has launched a Substack newsletter, releasing vignettes bi-weekly, and is working on a new book focused on grief and healing, exploring everyday small griefs and the intertwining process of healing.
Anna Mitchell [20:16]: "I have been working on a larger book, it's about grief and like every day, like the everyday small griefs."
Throughout the conversation, Anna delves into profound themes such as the deceptive nature of societal promises ("the world is yours") and the importance of authenticity over constant content production. She underscores the necessity of resisting superficial narratives to uncover deeper truths.
Anna Mitchell [22:12]: "They would just be trying to keep you from seeing the truth... keep you busy, keep you distracted."
Zibby Owens wraps up the interview by praising Anna's unique voice and the depth of her work. She congratulates Anna on her new release and encourages listeners to explore the book's rich, introspective vignettes.
Zibby Owens [22:33]: "Anna, thank you so much. This is great. They will tell you the world is yours. Congratulations. And I'm so glad that you showed us your weird side, because it's pretty awesome."
This detailed summary captures the essence of Anna Mitchell's discussion on her latest book, her writing journey, and the themes she explores. Listeners are invited to delve into her vignettes for a nuanced portrayal of personal and spiritual growth.