Podcast Summary: Nina Stibbe on "WENT TO LONDON, TOOK THE DOG: The Diary of a 60-Year-Old Runaway"
Totally Booked with Zibby
Host: Zibby Owens
Guest: Nina Stibbe
Episode Release Date: June 15, 2025
Introduction and Background
In this episode of Totally Booked with Zibby, host Zibby Owens welcomes acclaimed British author Nina Stibbe to discuss her latest work, Went to London, Took the Dog: The Diary of a 60-Year-Old Runaway. Stibbe, renowned for her six books including the award-winning Love, Nina, brings a wealth of experience from her diverse roles as a writer, publisher, and bookstore owner.
Zibby Owens kicks off the conversation with enthusiasm, saying:
“This is probably the best title ever, I think, don't you think? I mean, it's so good.” ([04:29])
Nina responds with a light-hearted acknowledgment of her creative inspiration:
“Well, it's a slight copy of, I think, an Emily Dickinson poem... I think I've stolen it. But you're allowed to.” ([04:34])
The Genesis of Went to London, Took the Dog
Nina delves into the origins of her new book, explaining it as a candid diary chronicling a pivotal year in her life. Feeling isolated after her children left for university, she decides to embark on a sabbatical in London to rekindle her motivation and work on her next novel.
“I decided I would go to London, find some motivation, write my next novel... and this is the diary of the year.” ([05:30])
She recounts how economic constraints led her to connect with Deborah Moggarg, a fellow writer who offered her a room at a peppercorn rent in London, allowing Nina and her dog to live there for the year.
“I went and lived there for a year for a peppercorn rent with my dog. And this is the diary of the year.” ([05:30])
Personal Reflections and Challenges
Nina opens up about the personal challenges she faced during this period, particularly the complexities of her marriage. Initially intending the diary for personal use, her editor encouraged her to publish it. This decision led to introspection about her relationship, resulting in the difficult choice to exclude her ex-husband from the narrative upon his request.
“I felt guilty about ending the marriage... I thought, why couldn't I just have toughed it out?” ([08:01] – [09:05])
She shares the emotional turmoil and societal pressures she encountered, especially regarding public perceptions of her personal decisions.
“I grew up with divorced parents... I thought, why couldn't I just have toughed it out?” ([08:35])
Reception and Public Reaction
Upon publication, Nina's diary received mixed reactions. While many readers appreciated the honesty and humor, she also faced harsh criticism from some quarters. Despite personal dismay over these negative remarks, especially concerning the portrayal of her marriage, Nina maintains a resilient and positive outlook.
“I think it's funny. I think it's... I genuinely hope... I think it's useful to women.” ([09:48])
She emphasizes the disconnect between the authors' public personas and their real-life interactions, noting that negative reviews often contrast with the kindness she experiences in person.
“When I've had sort of negative reviews... they'll bump into the people sometimes at an event, and they're so nice to me.” ([12:05])
Insights on the Publishing World
Nina offers a unique insider perspective on the contemporary publishing landscape. Reflecting on her earlier days, she compares her initial foray into London's literary scene with her recent experiences, highlighting changes and continuities within the industry.
“I've sort of presenting myself. It's, it was very interesting that the two, you know, when I came as a nanny I was under the radar... but this time they know me as a fellow writer.” ([20:53])
She discusses her interactions with prominent authors and the supportive nature of her literary community, which allowed her to candidly document her experiences without professional repercussions.
“Nobody said no. They all said yes. And I'm quite cheeky about them.” ([22:20])
Current and Future Projects
Beyond discussing her recent diary, Nina updates listeners on her ongoing literary endeavors. She is actively working on a new novel, a follow-up that revisits familiar characters and themes, showcasing her continued passion for storytelling.
“I'm writing a novel. I wrote a novel that was published in 2022 and I'm writing a sword. Not quite a sequel, but sort of a follow up with some of the same characters.” ([25:08])
Zibby shares her own writing journey, relating to Nina’s experiences and celebrating the creative breakthroughs that come with perseverance.
“I threw out the whole first draft... then literally just in the middle of the night last night, I was like, wait a minute. I figured out how I could relate these two books...” ([26:09])
Nina expresses excitement for Zibby’s progress, reinforcing the camaraderie and mutual support within the writing community.
“That is fantastic... I’m really happy for you.” ([26:14] – [26:19])
Closing Remarks
As the conversation winds down, both Zibby and Nina reflect on the joys and challenges of writing, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and resilience. Nina wraps up by expressing her gratitude and optimism for her readers, while Zibby encourages listeners to engage with the show and explore the literary works discussed.
“This has been such a joy to chat with you... Thank you so much and best of luck on the next novel.” ([27:00] – [27:21])
Notable Quotes
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Nina Stibbe on Removing Her Ex-Husband from the Book:
“I felt guilty about ending the marriage... I thought, why couldn't I just have toughed it out?” ([08:35])
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Zibby Owens on Negative Reviews:
“Isn't it really outrageous when you think about it, that all these people that you don't know feel they have the right to call you a name based on a relationship they know nothing about?” ([11:27])
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Nina Stibbe on Public Reaction:
“When I've had sort of negative reviews... they're so nice to me.” ([12:05])
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Nina Stibbe on Writing Novels:
“And I love writing novels. Writing the diary is sort of easier... but writing a novel gives you butterflies in your tummy because things happen.” ([25:15])
Conclusion
This episode offers a deep dive into Nina Stibbe's latest literary endeavor, revealing the personal and professional facets that shape her work. From navigating the intricacies of personal relationships to engaging with the broader literary community, Stibbe's candid reflections provide valuable insights for both aspiring writers and avid readers. Zibby Owens skillfully guides the conversation, making the episode both informative and engaging for listeners.
