
Have you ever been so certain about someone, your future, or a situation... only to realize you were wrong? In Week 3 of Fear-Less, Pastor Charles Metcalf shows us how fear doesn't just make us anxious, it convinces us that our assumptions are facts....
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Welcome to Transformation Church podcast where we represent God to the lost and found for transformation in Christ. We're so glad you're here and wherever
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you're listening from, we believe, believe God
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will transform your life through today's message. I hope you're doing good this morning. My name is Charles and I'm glad you're here today. A fun piece of information, which is this past week I found out I was old, so that's why I got readers. I got readers this past week, and here's why I got them because a friend went to do an impression of me. I leave this friend unnamed, but he's our youth pastor and he went like this. He said, watch this, watch this. So the Bible says, so first of all, you wait till your eyes go. You 6 foot 12, you're gonna be needing big glasses. Okay? Anyway, all right, here we go. This is what the Bible says. Genesis, chapter number 50. Where are we going to start?
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We're going to start in verse number 14. Genesis 50, verse 14. After burying Jacob, Joseph returned to Egypt with his brothers and all who had accompanied him to his father's burial. But now that their father was dead, Joseph's Brothers became fearful. Now Joseph is going to show his anger and pay us back for all the wrong we did. So they sent a message to Joseph. Before your father died, he instructed us to say we're sorry. Please forgive your brothers for the great wrong they did to you, for their sin in treating you so cruelly. So we, the servants of God, your father, beg you to forgive our sin. When Joseph received the message, he broke down and he wept. Then his brothers came and threw themselves down before Joseph. Look, we are your slaves, they said. But Joseph replied, do not be afraid of me. Am I God that I can punish you? You intended to harm me. You intended to harm me, but God intended. I gotta say this because I'm not gonna preach it in the sermon, but those are the same word there. It's the same Greek word in the original language. And why I'm saying that is because we sing things like, oh, the devil did it, but then God turned it. God is not so weak that he has to turn anything the devil's doing. He's greater than the devil. So in his sovereignty and his understanding of the plan of our life, he accounted for that to go wrong. And he already knew it was going to make you better. I don't have to make the.
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God does not have to make do
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with stuff the devil is doing and try to get it together and, oh, let me see if I can work this out. He already knows. Readers back on. You intended to harm me, but God intended it all for good. For he brought me to this position so I could save the lives of many people. So don't be afraid. I will continue to take care of you. So he reassured them by speaking kindly to them. The title of my sermon today. Three words. Three important words. Three powerful words. Three words I think we need to embrace. Three words that I think will help you get through your week, your month, and your year. I was wrong. There was a second where I thought I wasn't gonna make it. But thank God, I was wrong. I spent a lot of my life afraid of what people thought about me. And I thought that my failures were going to define me. But thanks be to God, I was wrong.
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I thought that last season of loneliness was going to be the last season I would ever know.
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But thank God, I was wrong.
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I thought anxiety was going to always be my portion. But I was wrong. I thought his mercy only ran to good people. But I was wrong. I thought the grave was going to hold him. But thank God, I was wrong. I thought that my family's lineage was going to keep on going but thank God I was wrong they said we wouldn't have a baby and I believed it for a second but thank God I was wrong they said that this season would be my whole lifestyle but thank God I was wrong I started to slip in the water When Jesus told me to get out and I thought I was going to drown but he reached down thank God I was
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wrong Spent a lot of my life trying to be right But I'm grateful that there were some things I got wrong I was wrong I was wrong I was wrong and I'm glad I was wrong I was certain about some things and how they were gonna go But I was wrong I thought I knew how my life was going to go But I was wrong Dear God, would you change us? Would you encounter us? Would you help us to see our lives and our future and our children the way you see them? We need your presence. We need your glory. We need your goodness. We need your mercy. And I thank you over these next couple moments that we spend together that you would lead us and that you would guide us. It's in the beautiful name of Jesus we pray and everybody said amen. Amen. Amen. Zach, you just rock with me, man, because we're going to get straight to business. We've been talking about fear, and I want to introduce something to you today that I think is vitally important for not only the way you think, but the way you live. And here's. Here's the central theme of today's sermon. The most dangerous thing about fear.
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It's not that it makes you emotional,
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it's that it makes you certain. There's nothing like the certainty of fear,
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the certainty of knowing what's going to happen. And fear has a way of doing that to all of us. Fear will have us certain about stuff
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there's no way we can know.
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Fear will have you obsessed with stuff that you can't control. And fear will cost you. The very thing fear is promising you it's protecting. And today I just want to take a couple of moments to submit to you that maybe fear has been lying to you. Because there's nothing like being certain. There's nothing like just knowing. I mean, for a second, I know we got the piano with us, so just stay with me. But do you remember when you were young how certain you were, how much you knew? Oh, I know exactly how my life is gonna go. I know exactly how. I mean, I can bet you there is nobody more certain than like a 16 or 17 year old with no job, no opportunities, no future. And they just be knowing stuff. The most certain section in our church is right over here. They just know.
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Already know.
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But there's nothing like maturity that turns your certainty into mystery.
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I don't know if you've had this experience, but the older I've gotten, it feels like I got more questions.
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I felt like, oh, the older you get, the more sure you become. And in some ways it's true. But in some other ways, I've been wrong enough times about stuff I knew I was going to be right about
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to know. Maybe I don't know as much as I think I know.
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Why is it always chaos when we link up?
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Genesis chapter number 37. We meet a certain 17 year old. His name's Joseph. And Joseph isn't anybody. He's a favored son. His great grandfather started this whole thing. Abraham, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob. Jacob's name gets changed to Israel. He has 12 boys, one of them Joseph.
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And Joseph is 17 years old when he meet him. And the Bible gives us detail in Genesis 37 that his daddy loves him more than all his other kids.
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Now you're not technically supposed to be saying that out loud,
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but his daddy don't care. He doesn't care at all. He loves him so much he gives him like a special jacket that he
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don't give to nobody else gives him his jacket. The Bible tells us that around 17 years old. That he has a dream. And in his dream, he's stars, and his brothers are other stars. And all of a sudden, his brothers start to bow to him. And then he has another dream. And in this dream, he's. They're all bundles of wheat, and his is in the center, and all his brothers bow to him. And with a dream like that and a coat like he had, I'm sure he was certain. Oh, I know how this is gonna go. Step number one, I gotta go tell my brothers. Bible tells us. Joseph rolls up on his brothers and
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he says, hey, yo, I got a
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dream
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that black people and white people.
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No, I'm joking.
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The white man has sent a check, and it has bounced.
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Come on, somebody. Y' all don't know nothing about Martin Luther King, Jr. First I have a dream speech. He comes up to his brothers, and he tells him the dream. And he says, hey, listen, I don't know, you know. I know you kind of mad at me because, you know, I got the coat. It ain't nothing but a G thing. But anyways, I had this dream. And in the dream, you know, I didn't. I didn't give myself the dream, but you were bowing to me. And I can only imagine. This ain't even biblical. This is just brothers. I got a brother. I know how brothers get down. Bro, if you don't shut up right now. Be quiet. Ain't nobody bowing to you.
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Ain't nobody bow.
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Hey, listen, I had a dream. I had another one, too, bro. Ain't nobody want to hear your second dream. We don't want to hear the first dream. You better be quiet. Nah, bro, just listen. Just listen.
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That's probably.
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It's different. It's different. It's different. Bro, don't play with me if this is the same. If you about to say something stupid, don't say it. No, bro, just listen.
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I swear.
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I swear. I swear. All right, go ahead. So we're out in the field, right? And then I'm in the middle, and y' all start to.
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Boy, if he don't be quiet with this dream, I promise you. And the Bible tells us. And he tells them the dream, and they start resenting him. And you may be familiar with this story, you may not, but if you grew up in church, we all kind of know Joseph's story. He's a young man. He has a dream, and we kind of skip through his story. He goes from the pit to the palace to the pit to in. And we do all these things. But I want to zone in for a moment on the fear of a 17 year old man that the Bible tells us gets jumped by his 11 brothers and thrown into a pit. This is what happened. The Bible tells us that he's walking up and they see him coming. Look, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna read it for you.
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Just so y' all don't think like, man, he just making all this up. Nah, man, come on, get out of here. Genesis 37, I believe it is right here.
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Genesis 37, 18. When Joseph's brother saw him coming, they
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recognized him from a distance.
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As he approached, they made plans to kill him.
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Here comes that dreamer.
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Come on, let's kill him and throw him into one of these cisterns.
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Will tell our father, wild animal has eaten him.
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But Reuben heard their scheme.
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Let's not kill him. And Reuben makes a plan. He says, listen, we'll just throw him in there. And Reuben's plan is to come back and get him when the other brothers leave. But if you think about the scene, I mean, this is a 17 year old, that. This is my brothers, this is my people, this is my family.
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What's up, guys?
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Hey, come here real quick. Let's talk to you. All right? What's up?
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What are y' all guys. And the Bible tells us 11 brothers grab their little brother and throw him into a pit. This is where certainty starts to fade for our character, Joseph. Because I just knew. I knew God gave me this dream. I knew he was talking to me. I knew he had a plan. I knew I wasn't like everybody else. I knew that he put something in me. I just knew that it wasn't going to be my story like everybody else's story. I just knew that it meant something different when God spoke to me. I just knew that he called me out before I was in my mother's womb. And he had a plan to prosper me and not to. I just knew it. And all of a sudden, what you
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think you know, you don't know no more. He was wrong. He was wrong about his brothers. Because I thought your family was the place you go to get your dreams reassured, supported, encouraged. But sadly, Joseph's not the only one to find out that you can be wrong about people. The Bible tells us he's in the pit. And this is what happens when you're
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in a pit, when you're in a
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dark season, when you thought your life was going to go one way and it starts going another way. Is your certainty has to. It starts fading a little bit, but not. Not too much. Because the Bible tells us that they
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change up the plan and they come to getting. And now this is where the story turns. Because if I'm Joseph, I'm in the pit and I hear my brothers. Hey, yo, Joe. Joe, you down now? Yeah, I'm down here. What's up? Hey, man, we're gonna get you out. I knew y' all was playing. Hey, don't even worry about it.
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They get him out, no doubt. He starts to feel hope again. All right, I'm good. I'm good, I'm good. And then it says there's travelers going by and they sell him to these strangers. Wrong again, Joseph. Then the Bible tells us his story progresses a little bit. He finds himself in Egypt, and he
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finds himself working for a man named Potiphar. And Potiphar is a big deal.
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He's in charge.
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And no doubt, this has got to be the dream. This is definitely it. This is. This is definitely it. My brother's gone. I'm out of slavery. I've worked my way up. I've got a decent job. This has got to be the dream that he showed me when I was 17. This is it for sure.
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Wrong again. That ain't the dream, Joe. Because the Bible tells us that Potiphar's wife had an eye for Joseph. Now we always make light of this. I've definitely done it. A cougar came in and saw Joseph. Ain't nothing like an Egyptian cougar, bro.
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From the show last night to this drive, why is it never chill?
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Well, maybe I'll cut a path out
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and find my way back later.
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What?
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What does that mean? But the accusations are not a joke. Accusations can change your life. And he did nothing wrong. And there goes that certainty gone again in prison. And what you don't know about this unless you study into the scripture is from 17 years old when he has the dream, working his way up with Potiphar's and then thrown in jail. He's 30 years old. Years. I guess they forgot about me. I guess. And what's interesting with fear is when your life starts going like this, fear starts telling you stories of certainty. You didn't hear God, you ain't special. You think God spoke to you? No. You'll always be overlooked. You'll always be like your dad. People will always know you by the mistakes you made. It doesn't matter how hard you try. It doesn't matter how hard you work. This is your story. Now Joseph is in the pit. He's in prison. And again, I mean his whole life is this roller coaster of certainty, fear, certainty, fear, certainty, fear. And it's this limbo. And there's these two people, the prison, a baker and a cup bearer. And they come to him and they're having dreams. And here's what you need to know just to encourage somebody. No matter what season you're in, no matter how dark it may feel, God still put that gift on the inside of you. It don't matter where anybody puts you. It doesn't matter if they hire you, it doesn't matter if they promote you. They can't touch the gift on the inside of you cuz they didn't put it there. Sometimes we like to wait.
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Like I'm going to wait to do
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my gift until I really. Everybody can see it. But Joseph is in a prison with two people that can do nothing from him. And he's sitting there thinking, well, while I'm down here, I might as well make a difference. While I'm down here, I might as
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well do what God made me to do. While I'm down here, I might as well make the devil mad. While I'm down here, I might as well, do something that's not about me. They have these two dreams, and this
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is a lot of Bible we're covering today. Genesis 37 to Genesis 50. Go read it for yourself this week just to make sure I ain't making up no parts of this story.
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He sits there, two dreams, and he's
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like, hey, man, so good news and bad news. You gonna die. You gonna get out in a couple days and you're gonna die. You though you gonna get out and you're going to get promoted.
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They're like, really?
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Of course. The one guy that's down, he don't know nothing.
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Like, you ever get a prophetic word. You're like, they lying.
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They don't know that
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it happens.
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Gets out, one man dies, the other man gets promoted back to his position of the cup bearer, of the king. The only problem is Joseph asked, yo, when you get out, don't forget about me like my brothers did.
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Don't forget about me like everybody else. Just promise me one thing. When you get out of here,
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remember me. He doesn't remember him until there's a scripture that says, your gift will make room for you. And Pharaoh had a lot of magicians around him, but he didn't have no prophets. There's a difference. He starts being tormented by these dreams. And at just the right time, the cupbearer remembers Joseph. Yo, King, there was this guy, prison. I don't know if he's still there,
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but he can his God be telling him what's going on?
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Goes and gets and brings before the king. He says, hey, listen, there's gonna be seven years of famine. You need to store up. And then there's gonna be. There's gonna be seven years of plenty. You need to store up during that time. And there's gonna be seven years of famine. And if you store up. And here's the beautiful thing about our God. This is what I want to say real quick. Everybody that God is talking to ain't called to be a preacher. This is business strategy.
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This is economical insight. This is everybody. You, you have a moment at the altar, and it's like, I need to
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be on the host team. No, you don't. Go back to your job and let
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God speak to you about how to change that industry. If we all up in here, who's helping the people out there? So do what God made you to do. Start that business, run that company, create the app. I don't know what it is, but God will empower you and give you divine wisdom and insight to make A difference. He gives him this wisdom. And again, here we go. This has got to be the dream. This has got to be the dream.
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Because it's kind of the dream.
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Because some people are bowing to me. And here's the thing I've learned in my own life, that fear will have you negotiate with your dream. This is close enough. This is.
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I've been single so long. They're close.
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They're close.
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They're not exactly what I saw. They're not exactly what God showed me. They're not exactly. Don't treat me exactly the way. But I can't be alone. So this. This is probably. This is probably it.
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Not the dream. From Genesis 37 to Genesis 50, we find out the moment when his dreams come true. Genesis chapter number 45. Joseph reveals his identity as the heading. Joseph could stand it no longer.
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There were many people in the room. And he said to his attendants, out, all of you.
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So he was alone with his brothers and sisters. And then he broke down and wept. The Bible says he wept so loudly all the Egyptians could hear him. And it quickly carried to Pharaoh's palace.
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I am Joseph.
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This is the dream.
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It wasn't when you were 17. It wasn't when you became number two in charge. It wasn't when God spoke to you and gave you the prophetic word of how to run the country of Egypt. No, no, that's not the dream. It's when you're curled up, crying, fighting back frustration at the people who threw you in a pit. And they're now at your feet, needing something you got. And it's God saying, can I trust you right here. Through all the fear, through all the anger, through all the frustration, through all the resentment, through all the bitterness, through all the hurt, through all the disappointment. You want a dream from God? This is a dream from God. The people who threw you in a pit come back, talking about, can I have something?
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Joseph says, I'm. I'm Joseph. And I can't help but imagine them sitting there looking at their little brother. And all that's going through their mind is, I was wrong. I was wrong. I didn't know. I didn't know that you were. If I would have known, I never would have done that. Fear will have you certain about a lot of things, bro.
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From the show last night to this drive. Why is it never chill?
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Because this is our life backstage on the road. It's loud, messy, real.
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And that's the best part. Whole crew, no plan, just moving.
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
Good thing Nissan builds for that kind of Chaos.
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Not just test tracks, real life scenes, late nights, road trips, all of it.
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That's why it holds up. Nissan was ranked number one in initial quality among mainstream brands by J.D. power.
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Yeah, you can tell.
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But today I want to give you three things that fear will have you certain of, that you need to learn how to be wrong about. The first thing fear will have you certain about is people. Fear will have you thinking, I know who they are.
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Fear will have you looking at people
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who are different than you saying, I
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already know what they're about. Fear of what you think about other people will have you making up stories about people that are not true and your pride does not care to confirm why. Because fear tries to protect itself. And the only way to protect me is to make you an enemy. This is why we get so segregated. And I wish I couldn't say it wasn't in the church, but sadly it still is. Because we'll look at different people and we'll think, ah, I don't know about them, I don't know about them. And the truth is you're afraid. You're afraid, you're afraid. And instead of just saying you're afraid, you make up stuff, stories about people, you distance yourself from people, you talk about people and you just say, we don't do stuff like that. And I'm not just talking about because of the color of somebody's skin. I'm talking about other churches. We make up stories. Well, that church, you know, they just do this. And that church, they worship a little much. And that church is just a little too intense for me. And that church is just a little too loose for me. And that person, I don't know if they really love God. I don't. I don't even know if their heart is right. I don't. What you know about their heart? You're afraid and you're wrong about them. And don't get me started on some of my friends that a lot of us have been wrong about. And I'm talking about friends that I know in my real life. Not people in the church, people outside of the church. I had a friend I started trying to bring to church. I can't tell you how sideways people looked at him because he had tattoos.
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
Who's this guy? Oh, man, he may have a rough. What?
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What? What? Oh, I will jump off this stage.
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What?
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Please, please, please say something else.
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
Oh, no, they just look a little. Don't they know they shouldn't be wearing that? No, they don't, dummy.
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
That's why they're in here.
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
Don't they know we don't do that here?
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
We don't do what here? You don't do nothing here except for sit in that chair. So be quiet. Why you just.
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Let me calm down. Let me calm down.
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
I've been wrong about people. I've been wrong.
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
Fear will have you wrong about people thinking, you know, people thinking, you know why they do what they do. When you think you know why somebody did what they did, it's not a reflection of them. It's a reflection of you.
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
Because you thinking what you would do if you were them and you ain't them.
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
Well, I know if that was me, the only reason I would have done that is what. Yeah, that's you. They don't say nothing about them. But fear will have you wrong about people. It'll also have you wrong about your path in life.
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
It'll have you thinking, oh, I know how God's gonna do this. I know exactly.
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I'm gonna go here, then I'm gonna
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go here, then I'm gonna go here.
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
And God's like, what if we go this way?
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
The devil is a liar. I'm supposed to go from glory to glory. Ask Paul. Getting flogged, writing jails from prison what
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glory to glory means.
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
It doesn't mean rich to rich and check to check. It means obedience to obedience, faithfulness to faithfulness, kindness to kindness, love to love, gentleness to gentleness, self control to self control.
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
Nah, man. Oh, man.
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
The way I know if it's God. And here's a dangerous.
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
Here's some dangerous language I've used before. I'm just, you know, I just feel Peace about it.
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
Okay, yes,
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
but what do you mean by peace? Do you mean you just feel comfortable? That's not peace.
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
You mean you feel safe.
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
Oh, you mean you feel in control.
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
I got it. So if you're in control, that's how you know it's God.
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
My best friends in the world. He has a saying. It's follow the nausea. You think Peter felt in control when
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
God said, hey, step out of the boat. You sure Peter's better than me? I would have had a couple. Which one of us?
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
Judas. I wouldn't risk it, brother. Don't get. Don't get out. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me. If following Jesus don't make you feel awkward, every once in a while, Let me. Let me kindly call out and encourage something that just happened a couple weeks ago. A couple weeks ago, it was Father's Day. We called all the men down to the front, and not everybody, but I was standing up here. You didn't see yourself. So I will say this. 99.2% of the men were like this. It was a good worship song.
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I want to challenge you, man of God.
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Lift your hands. I don't need to be doing all that. Don't be talking about me doing all that, bro. We saw you during the finals. Talk about you had your whole joint painted and you was.
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This should feel a little uncomfortable following Jesus. Should feel a little awkward if you following Jesus. It's like, man, this is great. My life is better. Everything's working out. I'm getting checks in the mail. I'm getting prophetic words about becoming a billionaire. And, you know, I don't even have to really do anything. I can still just do whatever and apologize and, man, God is great. That's not.
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That's not what this book is like. Because Job lost everything.
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Samson was empowered by God. But that disobedience did cost him something. It's not all Jesus about to send out the disciples. He says, the Son of man has no place to lay his head. So just before you, there's one scripture where he's turned. A bunch of people are following. He said, hey, real quick, if you want to follow me, all you gotta do is just pick up your cross. Follow me. That'll be good. They're not thinking about a Jesus piece around their neck. All they know is Roman crucifixion. The cross isn't associated with Jesus when he says this. You want to follow me? Pick up your cross. Come on.
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I've been wrong about my path. I thought I knew God you do it this way and you're going to do it this way and then you're going to do it that way. And when it doesn't go the way I thought it, I think, man, I don't know if this God stuff, but I've been wrong about people, I've been wrong about my path and there have been many times I had the wrong perspective because fear starts assigning meaning to stuff. So fear will have you saying, oh, the reason they not there is because you weren't enough. And if you were enough, your dad would have stayed. If you were good enough, you would have got, got promoted, but you're not good enough.
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
Fear will have you making up stories before it's even happen. Fear will have you. And I'm going to say this, I'm not, I'm not even being silly.
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I feel this is a real thing
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because I know some people that have done this and that struggle with this. Fear will have you standing on the edge of commitment making up stories about why you won't commit, got somebody you love, won't marry them because you've already made up a story. Story I already know I'm going to cheat on him because every man in my family has cheated. So at least it's not as bad if we don't get married. At least it's not. So I have you ready to start a business, ready to do something, but already 10 steps ahead. If it'll probably work for a little bit and it'll go sideways and then I'll be back here and I have to come back and all this stuff. No, no, no, friend. Fear will have you certain about stuff that you don't know at all.
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
Obsessed with stuff you can't control and cost you the very thing it's promising you, it's protecting.
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
Why is it always chaos when we link up?
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Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
Joseph, at the end of his story, his brothers are there. Listen, we did you wrong, man. We're so sorry. We're so sorry. And his response is proof of the spirit of God on the inside of him. Oh, you weren't wrong. God was right. You meant for this to hurt me.
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You meant for this to break me.
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But God was making me see.
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What you don't realize is I had
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to deal with me when y' all threw me in that first time.
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I had to figure out who I was without that coat. I had to figure out who I was if everybody didn't agree with me. And that pig gave me something that your praise could have never given me. So I thought it was wrong. But thank goodness I was wrong about my process. Because when you sold me, I had to find a love that didn't come from the people that were close to me. And when they lied on me and said I didn't do something that I. That I know I didn't do, but they charged me anyway, I had to figure out that God is the judge and that God is the one who controls my life. So I was wrong about that situation. And then when I was in prison, I had to find out that I can still use my gift if nobody sees it. Because for a long time, I thought my gift was only important if people clapped for it. And my gift was only important if they cheered for me. But I found out in that prison that I can work this gift no matter where I am. I was wrong about that situation.
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And I almost got it wrong when they put me over everybody.
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Because I thought status meant I was
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all the way in purpose. But I was wrong. I realized God didn't put me here but for one reason. Scripture says so many lives could be saved. All I want to say today is whatever story fear has made you certain about, I don't know what it is. Some of you feel certain, like, I don't know if that kid's ever going to come home. You've been praying so long, you're certain that it's just too, too much. Some of you are certain that you'll always be single. You're certain that the business isn't going to work. You're certain. And all I'm saying is you don't know that yet. You don't know. You don't know what God might do.
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You don't know what he's planning, you don't know how he's working. And be careful of the story your religion makes you certain of because you don't know something that people were certain about. People were certain that nothing good could come out of Nazareth. People were certain that Mary's boy was just a boy. People were certain that you couldn't do anything with people who had leprosy so you had to throw them out. They were certain
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
about this 33 year old man that he was causing a rebellion and he deserved to die. But there's one picture I love. Scripture tells us that Jesus is up on the cross and he's in between two thieves and they deserve to be up there. But this is the holy, merciful, gracious, kind, omnipotent, omniscient creator of the universe who has done nothing wrong.
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Pure as snow, Never an ill thought in his spirit, only intention is to love, to give, to help you figure out how to be you. And the people he made pinned him to a tree because they were certain this ain't who we've been waiting for. Because the king we've been waiting for is going to overthrow Rome. The king we've been waiting for is going to come back with raging war. And they didn't know he was raging war, but it wasn't on the external, it was on the internal. He was raging war on depression, he was raging war on our lack of righteousness. And they were certain they knew who he was. And the scripture tells us there's two different tracks of this story in scripture. There's two different people. There's one story that I love of the thieves are on the cross and one of them is standing there
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and he's on the cross and he looks over and I think he starts to look around and think, I think we're wrong. I don't know. And it's beautiful because Jesus doesn't say nothing.
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
But just when you get around Jesus, you can just feel this is why your life is so important. Not what you say, how you live, how you live at work. Not what you say, not what you you post, not what you project. I'm talking about how you live. Because if the spirit of God is up on the inside of you. People will be sitting there in their sin, talk about, I think I got this wrong. I don't know. I don't know, because they going through what I'm going through, but they're not going through it how I'm going through it. I think. I think I got this wrong. I don't know. Their marriage looks different than ours. I think I got this wrong. And there's a thief on the cross, and he says, hey, I think I got it wrong. You think you could remember me?
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
And there's another one that I love. It's a Roman soldier who probably helped nail his hands to that tree. And the scripture says, we'll see if I can find it. Just give me a moment. It says in Matthew. So he's sitting there, Says this at noon, darkness fell across the whole land. You already know. I can't see. Y' all. See how close I was? Y' all saw.
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Some bystanders misunderstood and thought he was calling for Elijah. And one of them ran and filled a spoon with sour wine, holding it up to him. But the rest said, wait, let's see if Elijah comes. Then Jesus shouted out again, and he released his spirit. And at that moment, the curtain in the sanctuary of the temple was torn into, not from the bottom to the top, because if it was from the bottom to the top, a man could have torn it. But the scripture says that from the top to the bottom. And the earth shook and rocks split apart and tombs opened up, and the bodies of many godly women and men who had died were raised from the dead. And they walked out of cemeteries after Jesus's resurrection, and they walked into Jerusalem and appeared to many people. Then the Roman officer and the other soldiers at the crucifixion were terrified, and they said, this man truly was the son of God. I just want to say it's okay to be wrong. We spend a lot of our life trying to be right and clinging to everything that makes us feel like we're more right. That's why you got to be careful of what you listening to on social media. Be careful about the stories they tell you about why people are doing certain stuff. Find out for yourself. Don't believe somebody else's story. Go get your own story. Well, you know those type of people. Do you know any of those type of people?
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Because I probably know some of those
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type of people that you think are those type of people. And I promise you, them type of people ain't them type of people. They Your type of people. Cuz we all, we type of people. I'mma pray that
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fear has told you a story specifically about your future, some of you, there are decisions, opportunities, a life ahead of you that fear is currently telling you it's certain that can't happen and it's just not true. I want to pray today that wherever you would be have been wrong, you experience this. The Bible says that he who knew no sin became sin so that we could become the righteousness Christ. Because God can give you the right people, he can put you on the right path and he can give you the right perspective. Would you pray with me? Lord God, we thank you for who you are, that you're a right now God. So right now I pray for anybody who feels like fear has told them a story of what will happen and what won't happen. I thank you that you would redeem that story right now in the name of Jesus, that peace, peace that we can't understand would enter into our hearts. And I pray right now for a supernatural boldness, a boldness to live with courage. A boldness to step out and trust you. A boldness to live a life, Lord God, that we could only dream of. Forgive us where we've been wrong.
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Wrong about people, wrong about plans, wrong about perspectives. God, would you forgive us?
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Give us your eyes to see. Every head bowed, every eye closed. Maybe you're in here and maybe you're starting to feel and find out that maybe you've been wrong about Jesus.
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
Maybe you've been wrong about God.
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
Maybe you thought God was mad at you.
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
Maybe you thought God was waiting for you to be perfect. Maybe you thought God that was sitting there with his finger pointed you mad and waiting for you to prove it and then he'll love you. No, friend, you're wrong about him. He loves you no matter what you've done. He loves you no matter where you've been. He loves you no matter what people have said. And he's standing with his arms open wide, waiting for his child to come home. And if you're in here or watching online, you feel like, man, I've been wrong about Jesus.
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Today you can become right about Jesus.
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And it starts with admitting, I can't
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do this by myself.
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I need help.
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And in just a moment I'm about to pray.
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And if you want to accept Jesus into your life before we pray, I'm going to ask you on the count
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of three to lift your hand.
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And as you saying, I want to get this right.
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
You ain't got to worry about anybody else. You ain't got to worry about what other people would think. This is your moment to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. 1. He loves you. 2. Today is the day of salvation. 3. Right now in this room, lift your hand if you want to accept Jesus. So proud of you. I got you, sister. So proud of you. So proud of you. I got you. I got you up there. I see you, man. So proud of you. Everybody out loud together. Everybody repeat this prayer with me. Everybody say, dear God, I admit I've gotten it wrong. I need you. I pray you would change my heart. Forgive me of my sin. Make me brand new. It's in Jesus name I pray. Amen and amen. Can we celebrate people who just accepted Jesus
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standing all over this room? We're about to get out of here. Hey, listen, if you just text, if you just raised your hand or prayed that prayer, let us know.
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Text the word save to the number on the screen.
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I'm going to ask our worship team
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to lead us in some worship.
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And maybe you want to stay in worship with us. Maybe on your way out, introduce yourself
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to somebody, get somebody's phone number, go to lunch with them. Listen, we love you so much.
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I would encourage you to join us next week.
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
I'm gonna pray for your week.
Zach (Co-Speaker / Assistant Pastor)
If you need prayer for anything, our prayer team in the back would love to meet you. But God, I thank you for this week. I pray that we would have a
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blessed week full of your grace, full
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of your mercy, and full of your favor. Thank you, Lord Jesus, that you are with us.
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
You will lead us and you will guide us.
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It's in the beautiful name of Jesus we pray. And everybody said amen. Amen. Amen. Amen.
Charles (Lead Speaker / Pastor)
Thank you for joining us today. If you said that prayer and accepted Jesus into your heart, it's the best decision you could ever make. We want to celebrate with you and we have some tools to help you on your journey. Text saved to 828282 and to find out more about TC, text Connect to 828282. Be sure to subscribe and share this podcast with your friends. Thanks for listening. Now go out and live a transformation life,
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In this episode, Pastor Charles Metcalf explores the theme "I Was Wrong" as part of the FEAR-LESS series. Drawing from the biblical story of Joseph, Charles addresses the dangers of fear—especially the certainty it creates in our hearts about people, our future, and God's will. The heart of the message is the humility to admit when we've been wrong and the courage to trust God's redemptive purpose, even when life takes unexpected turns. The sermon encourages listeners to trade fear-induced certainty for fearless faith and openness to God's greater story.
(08:21 - 09:40)
"Fear will have us certain about stuff there's no way we can know."
— Charles (08:38)
(11:27 - 28:24, with references to Genesis 37–50)
"I just knew God gave me this dream...and all of a sudden, what you think you know, you don't know no more. He was wrong. He was wrong about his brothers."
— Charles (17:33)
(30:58 - 41:03)
(31:16 - 34:06)
"Fear tries to protect itself. And the only way to protect me is to make you an enemy. This is why we get so segregated."
— Charles (31:17)
(34:20 - 39:10)
"God's like, what if we go this way?"
— Charles (34:31)
"If following Jesus don't make you feel awkward every once in a while...that's not what this book is like."
— Charles (36:08, 38:18)
(39:10 - 41:03)
"Fear will have you making up stories before it's even happened...Fear will have you certain about stuff that you don't know at all."
— Zach (40:12)
(42:23 - 44:15)
"You meant for this to hurt me...but God was making me see."
— Charles (43:01)
(45:22 - 49:22)
"They were certain this ain’t who we've been waiting for...And the scripture says...the Roman officer...said, this man truly was the son of God."
— Charles (46:36, 49:22)
(51:44 - End)
"Wherever fear has told you a story...that can't happen, and it's just not true...that peace, peace that we can't understand would enter into our hearts."
— Charles (51:46)
"I was wrong. And thank God, I was wrong."
— Charles Metcalf (05:46)