A Trash Tuesday Friendsgiving Ft. Jenna Jiménez

Summary

Podcast Summary: Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky, Khalyla Kuhn & Jenna Jiménez – "A Trash Tuesday Friendsgiving Ft. Jenna Jiménez"

Release Date: November 26, 2024

In the "A Trash Tuesday Friendsgiving" episode of Trash Tuesday, hosts Esther Povitsky and Khalyla Kuhn, along with guest Jenna Jiménez, delve into a candid and humorous discussion centered around Thanksgiving, mental health, body image, and the quirks of daily life. This episode offers a blend of heartfelt moments and playful banter, making it both relatable and entertaining for listeners.

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1. Breakfast Rituals and Morning Routines

The conversation kicks off with the trio humorously critiquing their unconventional breakfast choices, highlighting a mix of unhealthy and quirky options.

• Esther starts with a sardonic remark:
  "[00:00] We have Oreo cookies for breakfast because our government wants us to die early."

• Khalyla responds playfully:
  "[00:04] I do. Chicken sausage. Sorry, I just died."

• Jenna adds her own twist:
  "[00:27] She's so stupid."

The discussion transitions into gratitude and how their morning habits reflect broader life perspectives.

2. Gratitude and Mental Health

As Thanksgiving approaches, the hosts and Jenna delve into personal reflections on gratitude amidst struggles with mental health.

• Esther shares a profound insight on self-centeredness:
  "[00:56] On this Thanksgiving, I want to remind everyone that people are only looking at themselves in the mirror. Nobody cares about you." (00:56)

• Jenna opens up about her supportive relationship:
  "[02:19] It's been a while since I've been treated like this, and it's sometimes a little bit jarring for someone like myself who has always been taking care of somebody." (02:19)

• Khalyla emphasizes the importance of self-worth and mental well-being:
  "[04:10] But I just don't want to hyper fixate and compare." (04:10)

The trio discusses the significance of gratitude lists as a tool for shifting negative thought patterns, with Esther introducing an A-to-Z gratitude list inspired by a book titled "Grace of Trump."

• Esther:
  "[13:00] She does an A to Z gratitude list. So you go like, A, for me, apples, B, bananas." (13:00)

3. Body Image and Intrusive Thoughts

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to exploring body image issues, intrusive thoughts, and the impact of mental health challenges.

• Jenna candidly discusses her journey with body dysmorphia:
  "[04:32] And I am so much. I love my body more now only because I'm in a better mental place." (04:32)

• Esther reflects on her postpartum experiences and the importance of medication:
  "[16:34] I'm really glad my meds are working and that I'm getting a little sleep is helping." (16:34)

• Jenna shares her struggles with intrusive thoughts:
  "[17:37] Another one. My fate. My favorite one. I used to have this extreme fear that I would forget how to swallow." (17:37)

The hosts collectively emphasize the importance of community and support in overcoming these challenges.

4. Time Change and Its Effects

The trio discusses the controversial topic of daylight saving time, touching on its historical roots and modern-day implications.

• Jenna expresses her frustration:
  "[06:02] Why can't we get into that spirit without the time change?" (06:02)

• Khalyla highlights the impact on farmers and daily routines:
  "[07:10] Because it's all immigrants working in the farms anyhow." (07:10)

They debate the necessity of time changes, balancing respect for agricultural practices with the mental toll it takes on individuals.

5. Dental Experiences and Healthcare Insights

The conversation takes a humorous yet critical turn towards dental experiences, revealing frustrations with healthcare practices.

• Jenna recounts her traumatic wisdom teeth removal:
  "[33:15] I didn't have a single thing wrong with my mouth. I've never had a cavity." (33:15)

• Khalyla criticizes dubious dental practices:
  "[34:15] People don't fight back because their insurance is paying for it." (34:15)

The hosts advocate for trustworthy healthcare professionals, recommending Dr. Tunzi as an honest dentist.

6. Thanksgiving Traditions and Side Dishes

The trio humorously debates traditional Thanksgiving foods, offering unconventional takes on classic dishes.

• Esther champions lumpy mashed potatoes:
  "[52:43] Lumpy, clumpy, junky. Honestly, either." (52:43)

• Jenna questions the necessity of green bean casseroles:
  "[54:33] Can you guys explain to me why that's a thing and why it's good?" (54:33)

• Khalyla introduces Filipino-inspired dishes:
  "[48:19] A pandesal. It's just a hot roll. Don't get caught up in the words." (48:19)

The hosts express a desire to diversify Thanksgiving menus beyond turkey, advocating for more varied and inclusive culinary options.

7. Cultural Identity and Food Preferences

A lively discussion unfolds around cultural identity, particularly focusing on Filipino heritage and its influence on food choices.

• Esther openly rejects traditional Jewish breakfast items:
  "[64:07] I love locks, and I don't love the smell." (64:07)

• Jenna celebrates her Filipino roots by endorsing Spam and other unique flavors:
  "[49:28] And we wear that proudly." (49:28)

The hosts embrace their diverse backgrounds, highlighting how cultural upbringing shapes their preferences and colorful personalities.

8. Community Support and Personal Growth

Towards the end of the episode, the hosts emphasize the importance of their community—the "sluggies"—in providing unwavering support through personal transformations and challenges.

• Esther expresses deep gratitude:
  "[24:15] Most importantly, the sluggies are still here. They still show us so much love and support." (24:15)

• Jenna acknowledges the positive changes and newfound comfort within the group:
  "[25:34] I'm just so thankful that you guys have stuck around and have really given us a chance to become a new version of ourselves." (25:34)

The episode concludes with heartfelt acknowledgments and promotions, reinforcing the sense of community and mutual support that defines "Trash Tuesday."

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Notable Quotes

• Esther Povitsky
  "Everyone is only looking at themselves in the mirror. Nobody cares about you." ([00:56])

• Jenna Jiménez
  "I was somebody who traveled everywhere alone and then turned into absolute agoraphobic hermit." ([19:45])

• Khalyla Kuhn
  "The hyper fixation of either being skinnier or being too fat or needing to gain your body will do the opposite." ([08:00])

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Conclusion

"A Trash Tuesday Friendsgiving" offers a multifaceted exploration of personal struggles, cultural nuances, and the comforting embrace of community. Through laughter and vulnerability, Esther, Khalyla, and Jenna create a space where listeners can find solace in shared experiences and the unfiltered realities of navigating life’s complexities. This episode not only celebrates Thanksgiving but also underscores the importance of gratitude, self-acceptance, and the support systems that help us thrive.

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Transcript

[A]

We have Oreo cookies for breakfast because our government wants us to die early.

[B]

I do. Chicken sausage. Sorry, I just died.

[A]

We eat Cookie Crisp. What's so funny?

[C]

No, it's so stupid. She wanted to add a statement on top what I said.

[A]

And then she was just like, I know, she's stupid.

[C]

She's so stupid.

[A]

What are we supposed to say to that? Good job, stupid.

[C]

Do you know what the energy was?

[B]

I like turtles.

[C]

Leah. I like turtles. I like turtles. I like turtles. That's exact.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[C]

I eat chicken sausage.

[A]

Do you know what? I'm grateful for this Thanksgiving.

[C]

Are we starting? I'm so sorry.

[A]

No, this is relevant to what you're doing.

[C]

Okay, go ahead.

[A]

We are starting.

[C]

Go ahead, carry on.

[A]

So I was just talking to Stella. I went up to her and I was like, can we order food? But while I was asking her, like, food was falling out of her mouth. And then she got embarrassed. But I was, she. I was like, I am not paying attention to you because I'm embarrassed and I'm asking to order food. And it reminded me of my favorite life lesson, which is everyone only is caring about themselves. And on this Thanksgiving, I want to remind everyone that people are only looking at themselves in the mirror. Nobody cares about you.

[B]

Same on the yoga class. Thanksgiving. Don't think about anyone else.

[A]

Think about yourself and yourself. No, think about how everyone else is thinking about themselves. And that gives you peace, you know?

[C]

Thought about me, though.

[A]

What?

[C]

My beautiful boyfriend who packed me a lunch.

[B]

I love this so much. I love that. Because you know what?

[C]

I deserve it. Donna, just say that.

[B]

You deserve it.

[A]

Wait, what is the lunch?

[C]

It's so cutely breakfast wrap with eggs and bacon and looks like there's green onion in there, but I love that. Can I.

[A]

Will you flash me the middle?

[B]

Ooh.

[C]

Very simple.

[B]

Can I smell it?

[C]

Can I smell it? I think this is a low carb tortilla, though.

[B]

Yeah, I could smell the tortilla.

[C]

Yeah. It's not really like, you know, but it's been a while since I've been treated like this, and it's sometimes a little bit jarring for someone like myself who, like, historically has always been like, taking care of somebody. So that's what I'm thankful for, is having a partner who really, like, looks out for me and makes packs my lunch.

[B]

I love that so, so much.

[C]

Thanks, guys. And he's been really, like, just so great about like my whole face stuff. Every day he's like, you're. You look great. You look great. It'll go away. Like, just being so supportive.

[A]

He's staring at your tits. He's like, you look great. He's like, I don't even notice. What are you talking about?

[C]

Let's be real, though. The tits are not the star of this show. They've never been the stars of the show.

[A]

You.

[C]

No.

[A]

Though, like, just because you have a beautiful face and not huge tits, it doesn't mean that your tits aren't the star of the show.

[C]

What do you think is the star of the show for you as a mother?

[A]

As a mother, I can't just say your tits.

[C]

You've had ethic tits.

[B]

Esther, you have great tips. I know.

[A]

She's always like, ew.

[B]

Don't like, watch.

[C]

Just admit it. I just need you to say it out loud.

[A]

No, I can't. I. I can't.

[B]

And even when I see her tits, she's like, ew. No. It's like, it's not gross.

[A]

You know what it is, though?

[B]

Please tell me.

[A]

Things are different in your 20s. And then when you're used to a certain thing and then the body changes a little bit. Even if it's just a little bit of a change. Like, I have a rule. I don't look at selfies from five years ago, 10 years ago.

[C]

Why not?

[A]

I used to do it because I do it. And then I get sad and I go, I don't look like that anymore. And that's like.

[B]

But you look so much better is the thing.

[A]

You could say that.

[B]

I will. I am saying that.

[A]

But I just. I don't. You know what it is? I don't want to hyper fixate and compare.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

The young me and old me. Like. But no.

[C]

Can I?

[A]

I'll just live in this.

[C]

I had a moment of realization around my body dysmorphia. Gilbert posted a video of me a couple weeks ago. And I was clearly very thin and tone.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I thought to myself, oh, my God, look how incredible I look.

[B]

And back then. But you didn't think so.

[C]

I remember how utterly miserable I was. And I am so much. I love my body more now only because I'm in a better mental place. Like, back then, I couldn't. There was no way I could have appreciated how good I look.

[A]

That's a tale as old as time. Yeah, it's a tale.

[C]

Look at Jules.

[B]

Back then, hoes didn't want me. Now I'm hot. Hoes all on me.

[A]

Exactly like Jules last week, whatever it was when she was talking about how she doesn't go out Cause she's too fat.

[B]

What? Jules said this.

[A]

Yeah. It's like, you're not. She's.

[B]

Oh, she's unwell.

[A]

It's not. That's not. No. Just. No.

[B]

I've recently gained like 8 to 16 pounds.

[A]

That's a huge range for a person who's 5ft tall.

[B]

I know, but I am in a better mental place. And I'm like, it is what it is. Yeah.

[C]

I think that, like, you know, I think it's a good sign for, you know, I mean, Bobby was not very nice the last time he saw me. He was like, you literally, like, you're like, you're a big back. And I'm like, thank you. But I don't know if it's a.

[B]

Negative thing coming from him.

[C]

It is. But I was like, not even, like, hurt by it. I, like, laughed and I was like, yeah, I am. Right now.

[A]

I am.

[C]

And that's okay. Like, it felt like nice to just like, let it roll off my shoulders.

[A]

Is this girlhood?

[C]

I think this is womanhood.

[A]

Womanhood, yeah. Also this transition over, you just let.

[B]

Your body do what it's gonna do. The hyper fixation of either being skinnier or being too fat or needing to gain your body will do the opposite.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It is not going to do what you want it to do if you fixate on it.

[A]

That's so true. Like, for me, I. I only gained weight whenever I was like, I have to be skinny. It's like, it's just the brain.

[C]

That's how the brain works.

[A]

Yeah. So it's Thanksgiving week. How are we feeling? It's kind of a weird little temperature change.

[C]

Okay, can I just talk about. Not the temperature change, but when are we gonna do away with this God awful time change?

[A]

I knew you were gonna say that.

[C]

Oh, it's not. I am thankful for a lot of things. I'm not thankful for that. Like, it takes me down to the pits of mental illness.

[A]

So here's what I've heard is that they have, like, they're the legislators, whoever they are out there, the senators. There's like someone who's trying to get it done. But what gets tripped up is they can't decide which one to keep. What do you mean they can't decide? Do they keep the. Which hour do they stay in the fall one time zone?

[C]

No, we stay in the spring one.

[A]

You'd think, but apparently there's scientists that say there's a reason not to. I don't know what it is.

[B]

Like your circadian rhythm.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I see farming.

[C]

Yes. I would say it's probably more along the lines of ecosystem economics. And agriculture started.

[A]

Why economics?

[C]

Because it's agriculture. It's like, I think the reason why it was started to begin with. Guy, do you have the answer?

[B]

It was farming, I thought.

[C]

Yeah, longer.

[B]

Longer. Like working, Harvesting.

[C]

Yeah. But I. It's just like, okay, the crops are growing well, but the people are dying.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So like, pick a lane.

[A]

The people are tired.

[C]

We're not gonna survive very long if this keeps going, like the amount.

[B]

Because it's all immigrants working in the farms anyhow.

[C]

Good point.

[A]

Well, they apparently do care because they're not changing it.

[B]

Yeah. But they're also suffering with the time change as well. It's like farmers have to work up, wake up at like 3:00 in the morning. And typically from the farmers I've known, they're waking up at 2, 3, working their asses off. Some of the kids are then going to school, then going to like soccer practice, and then they're having to go home and do their homework. They're not sleeping. Then they're waking up going. It's like, I don't.

[C]

I feel bad about complaining about my mental illness now.

[B]

And you know what's funny is they're not really complaining about their mental illness. My dad does not complain at all.

[C]

You know, this is a quote that I. That really struck me in my twenties. What was it? It was. Oh, God, cut this out because I forgot the quote.

[B]

Okay, we'll take.

[C]

Okay, here we go. I found it, like lofty.

[B]

Wait, re. Say the thing, you know.

[C]

No, no, no, keep it. No, it's lofty. Ideas are a luxury of the well fed. I know, but this is a quote that struck me in my early 20s where it's like if you're just like. It's such a luxury to contemplate life. People who, who, who are struggling don't have the time or the energy to contemplate life or philosophize about anything or even think about the time change.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So to that I say my hot girl problems, I'm gonna shut up about.

[B]

I still don't like the time change.

[A]

I support your hot girl problems and I always will. Don't let Jenna make you feel bad about them.

[C]

She was talking about the farming and the immigrants, and then I was like.

[B]

Your problems are real and I hate the time change. And it's very sad. The dimming of the day.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

I.

[B]

Very horrible.

[A]

And in all this plot twist, I love the dimming of the day.

[B]

Ew.

[C]

What's wrong with you?

[A]

You're honestly real. It's a troll.

[B]

It's like, say why It's a sign.

[A]

Like, we're getting into the fall spirit and it's gonna be winter.

[C]

Why can't we get into that spirit without the time change?

[B]

Oh, it's light out. I can't get into the fall spirit. Like, what?

[A]

It's just. I like the change. You know what? Summer is so hot and it's so long. It can be hot, and then we get the sign of, like, it's coming to an end. Look, I don't.

[B]

She never said she doesn't like the fall weather. We're talking about just the light.

[A]

I know, but I. The signaling of. I just.

[B]

Like, the depression is like, I think.

[C]

I know where we're getting. Where we're getting caught up.

[A]

What?

[C]

You and I are different in that I like to sleep in. You are. You wake up a little earlier so you have a lot of stretch of daylight. I don't. By the time I wake up, I'm like, oh, I have two hours of light. This is not good.

[B]

This morning I texted Esther at like 7:52 a question and a couple of things, and all she said was, why are you awake?

[A]

Because I know. I woke this morning. I woke up before Ace. She's.

[C]

What time?

[B]

Six.

[A]

I woke up at six. Yeah. And Ace slept till seven. I was like, well, what is the point of this if I'm awake laying here? But I did get 10.

[C]

It just dawned on me that when. During the time change, Bobby probably doesn't see light for six months.

[A]

I thought you were gonna say Bobby just stays on one time and, like, he just never.

[B]

He doesn't change his clothes clocks at all.

[A]

He just adjusts somehow.

[C]

Well, he doesn't know how to read time, so that. That helps. But yeah. So he probably just is living in the house.

[B]

Yeah. No idea. Yeah. And with his. Those shades that he has in his room.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Even during the day it's dark. So if he's in his room. Oh, he's fucked.

[A]

You know what? You're feeling bad about your problems. Jenna's preaching about the farmers. You know what that means? We. I guess we should be talking about what we're grateful for because it's Thanksgiving. And I have learned that when you're depressed, you gotta. You gotta do that. Great. Great. What is it called? Grateful list.

[B]

Wait, it's called something.

[A]

Gratitude journal. Gratitude list. I forgot the word gratitude. Don't edit that out. Let everyone See that? I'm of the people.

[B]

Okay. I'm grateful for.

[C]

I have a prediction. We're gonna talk about Thanksgiving, and Jenna's gonna talk about the pillaging of the indigenous.

[A]

You better not. You best not just get it out.

[C]

Of your system now.

[A]

Yeah, whatever you have to say.

[B]

Thanksgiving is trash. It is rooted in a very racist, horrible genocide. Killing, stealing land.

[C]

Yes, it's facts, facts, facts, facts.

[B]

But today we will speak about what we can do today, which is be grateful for. It's still a nice time to be grateful for what you have around you. It's still a nice time to be grateful for the progress that we're making. I'm grateful for my friends. I'm grateful for my mental health.

[A]

I have a new twist on the gratitude list that I learned from an old lady who, after talking to her, she gave me her business card and told me that she wrote a book.

[B]

Called you got conned.

[A]

Hold on. What was the book called? Love. It was like grace of Trump.

[C]

Wait, is she self published? And where do I find this? I'll.

[A]

I'll find that information for you. I know you love that book. But she did have one good idea, which was she does an A to Z gratitude list. So you go like, A, for me, apples, B, bananas. So I'm grateful for fruits.

[C]

C, cherries.

[B]

Calamansi.

[C]

Calamansi. Oh, great choice. Thank you for honoring my people.

[A]

Dunkin Donuts.

[C]

But it's a fruit.

[A]

If you are like, oh, I don't know how to start my gratitude list.

[B]

Dragon fruit.

[A]

Do the A to Z version.

[C]

It's going to be all fruits for.

[A]

All these listeners, and you will know all the obscure.

[C]

Yeah, fruits.

[A]

But in terms of being grateful, I.

[B]

Said what I was grateful for.

[A]

I've got nothing.

[B]

So cool.

[C]

No, we gotta.

[B]

We gotta say you brought us back there seven times, Esther.

[C]

Three things in three, two, one, go.

[A]

I'm very grateful that I had the extreme, intense privilege of becoming a mommy. And I think as I, you know, go through the thoughts of all that and get further and further away from just the whole experience, like, of giving birth and whatever, I realize how much had to go right for me to land in a place that I have a baby. And especially, like, history of miscarriage, just different health issues that I'm discovering now postpartum, like, it's such a miracle that I have her. And so while I'm dealing with my own extreme anxiety and fears and depression and stuff, like, I do try to just remind myself I'm so lucky. Which is weird, right? Because it's like this thing, having a baby. Like, well, that's how we're all here. Everyone gets to do it. No, but not everyone gets to do it. But like, it's so everyone's having a baby every five seconds. But like, for me, I'm really focusing on this is actually. I'm so lucky that this happened to me. I'm so lucky. And so that's like my main one.

[B]

That's real. That's good.

[A]

And that I still love donut the most. That I love donut the most of anyone ever.

[C]

If you guys missed that donut growl.

[A]

She'S just asserting her boundaries.

[C]

Jenna, did you already go through your gratitude list?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I think there's. But something.

[C]

Wait, Esther, you forgot to thank Lexapro.

[A]

Oh, God, yeah. Lexapro over the baby for sure. Because I would not be here.

[B]

Honestly. Honestly, I'm thanking Lexapro over your baby as well.

[C]

I.

[B]

Because I would not be here.

[A]

I talk about this in depth on my solo podcast. But, like, I don't want to bum out the trash. Tuesday. Happy people I have.

[C]

You think we're happy?

[A]

The audience.

[B]

That's how we're scrounging for things. We're grateful for the sluggies.

[C]

We've all come together as a community. Not because we're happy. I think we've become a community because, you know, we say some really relatable sad shit. So.

[A]

Okay, well, I will say that the first, like two months, I thought I was gonna be scot free of postpartum, like, anything. I was just happy, peaceful, whatever. And then I would say months three to seven, I took an extreme nose dive that I haven't. That it just. Yeah, we. We were on a break from recording when the nose dive truly happened. And it has been. I'm just really glad my medication is working.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

I'm really glad my meds are working and that I'm getting a little sleep is helping. But I mean, really bad thoughts. The worst I've ever been.

[B]

Yeah, I was gonna say, but also your thought process. Like, I know you were saying, like, oh, we just have to name things that we're grateful for. But being able to just name things you're grateful for changes your thought process, even as woo as it sounds. But it's true because when you were at your worst, your mind was filled with all of the worst thoughts that only continued to make things worse.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So sometimes you have to, like, implant the thoughts, even though artificially. Yeah, artificially. Plant.

[A]

It didn't. Honestly, I'm going to be honest, it didn't help me.

[B]

I think it helped you in moments when you were doing it. But, yes, you needed Lexapro help. But.

[C]

But that's. That's the crazy about intrusive thoughts. They are so dark and so fucking wild. Like, I know in the peak of my anxiety, I used to tell Jenna, I don't even. I couldn't even hold a knife.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I was so afraid. Not because I was ever going to do anything with that knife, but because I was afraid of the intrusive thought.

[B]

I had that, too, with the knives. After my hospital incident.

[C]

It's a weird thing. Or, like, I didn't want to drive because I was like. I had this intrusive thought of, like, just veering off the road.

[B]

I had the driving thoughts where. What if. When I'm at a crosswalk and people are crossing, what if I accidentally. My foot accidentally goes to the gas instead of the brake? And so when I would get to a stop, I would, like, jam in the break and make sure it was. It's just so.

[C]

Another one. My fate. My favorite one. I used to have this extreme fear that I would forget how to swallow.

[B]

Oh, she did.

[C]

And I would literally con myself to forgetting how to swallow.

[B]

And then it would be hard.

[C]

And it would be hard to swallow.

[A]

Oh, my God. Wait, now it's happening to me. It's contagious.

[B]

That has happened to me. And it used to happen to me on planes. That. And I really thought, like, oh, no, no, there's some. There's something wrong with my. With, like, my epiglottis. And you would get stuck there because of, like, the surgery that I had here. I'm like, no, no, no. It's getting stuck with the scar tissue. Not. And I would, like, be on the plane, like, okay. And then I would just. I mean, what anxiety?

[C]

Can I tell you what I learned that really helped me with the swallowing thing? Apparently, you cannot swallow more than twice back to back. Which is why when we would try to excessively swallow to prove that we could swallow, we would get stuck. And then it would build. It would avalanche into this anxiety. It's so stupid.

[A]

I have really, actually, I thought a lot about you, Klila. The last, like, month and a half.

[C]

Because I love when I'm thought about.

[A]

I. It's not for a good reason. Like, I. Just. Because my anxiety got so bad, worse than it's ever been, I started to think about how you have, over the years, on this podcast, talked about really bad that you've Been through. And I started to, like, feel it or something. I was like, oh, my God, those things that you said that I couldn't really conceptualize. Like, I finally could. And I felt so bad for you and was just feeling, like, so much empathy. Like, the stories about you just you being scared to leave your house or scared to sleep alone. Like that. That must have been so hard and so real.

[C]

And it sneaks up on you very fast. Like, I was somebody who traveled everywhere alone and then turned into absolute agoraphobic hermit. And I couldn't even go to the grocery store, which was a block away from my home, without calling Jenna because I was frozen in the alley. You know what I said on that phone call? I'm scared I'm gonna forget who I am. And I was holding fruit, and I was like, can you come get me? I have this feeling that I'm gonna forget who I am.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I'm gonna be an amnesiac.

[B]

I had dropped her off at the grocery store. At Gelson's.

[C]

Yeah. And I cried. Come back. Come back for me.

[B]

And she called me, like, hey, can you come back? And she was like, the only remember was yours. And she, like, dropped all of her stuff in the aisle, and I just.

[C]

Bailed on my groceries.

[A]

So now that you're here today and you look back on that, what do you. What was happening to you then?

[C]

My. I was going through a very high stressful situation from my heart issue. And because I had this arrhythmia, I had a very large mistrust in my body. I forgot. I went from being an athlete to being like, something dreadful is going to happen. Even though I was safe and I was fine, I genuinely was safe, but I could not. I was so stressed out, and I was taking new medications, and I had just had that procedure done to my heart and ablation. Yeah. And I just short circuited and I. It was two years of really trying to come out of that anxiety. And I remember the first out of town trip that I took to Joshua Tree. I was like, I'm gonna book three days to try to test myself. Three days in Joshua Tree. I lasted half a day. I. I cried to Bobby and said we had to turn back around. I'm too scared.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Ruined our little getaway. But that's how bad it was for me. And I never really talked about it in length because I didn't want to remember being that anxious.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So real.

[B]

That was hard for me, too, to admit that I was like, suddenly this person. My therapist would always Say, like, you. You talk about the old you a lot, Jenna. Like, all the time. And I'm like. Because this is like the opposite of what I ever was. Like, yes. We would travel. You know me, someone would be like, come to Argentina. I would literally 30 minutes, throw shit in a bag, go to LAX. And I feel like my food allergies and my hospital trauma did the same thing to me where I was like, I cannot trust my body. But then that makes you spiral. That puts you into fight or flight. So then that puts you into a space where you're constantly like.

[C]

And then vigilant.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So hyper vigilant. And then you start thinking of everything that could go wrong. And slowly but surely, it's like, then you're not sleeping. I mean, I. I lost opportunities in that time frame. But I will say, like, you were saying that you were thinking of Kalila. When I met Kalila, I, like, I didn't really understand a panic attack at all. I was understanding, but I was like, I'll just be here for this. It's fine. And then it is so helpful to have someone who came before you who can, like, really put you on, and you can be like, oh, I'm not the only person in the world that this has happened to, which I'm doing now.

[A]

That is so the thought is always, I'm the only person that.

[C]

Because genuinely, you, it feels like. Well, it feels like you're dying. And you can't convince me that I'm not the only person feeling that because I look around, I'm like, everyone's functioning fine.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But, you know, I'm thankful for you guys because especially in the last couple weeks, I've been really down about this, and you guys have made it very, like, light and joyous to be paralyzed in the face. And I. The one thing.

[A]

Compliment ever. Thank you for being grateful for us. I'm grateful for this show.

[C]

Wait.

[A]

I'm so grateful for this show, for our team. Most importantly, by the way, Stella guy, Ariel, killing it. Have you seen our social media lately?

[C]

Check it out.

[A]

I know you have. But most, most. Most importantly, the sluggies, because how has this year. This year has been the hell of a year for us.

[C]

It really has been a hell of a roller coaster. I. I think I texted you this. It's like, I think when we're at the lowest point, we need to take inventory of 2024.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

This year has been absolutely wild.

[A]

And the fact, though, that we've gone through changes, like, personally, professionally, this show, rebranding, whatever like, and the sluggies are still here. They're still here. They still show us so much love and support. Like, I could literally cry. I can't believe it. When. When I am in my lowest lows, I do think of this show and this audience and this family and, like, how we can go through huge changes and still be a family and.

[B]

And have support.

[A]

Yeah. And, like, just a place to share this stupid shit about our anxiety or whatever. And, like, have David so make fun of us and have Rick Glassman be the most annoying person that was ever born. Like, that all those things can take place and the sluggies show up. I just feel the community that exists is, like, Is very, very special and important. And I'm just so. I just, like, want to take a moment to acknowledge how much, Kylie, you and I talk privately, like, about the slugs, and we show each other different things that they say and just, like.

[B]

How positive Esther's about to cry.

[A]

No, I just.

[C]

Yeah, because we.

[A]

We talk about it together. How much we love the slugs, but we don't, like, bring it up as much publicly. But I don't know.

[C]

No, I. I completely agree. I. I think that this year was the start of the year was very tricky for us.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I'm just so thankful that you guys have stuck around and have really given us a chance to become a new version of ourselves, because I think that's what we should be doing with everyone in our lives. It's like allowing people to change, allowing people to grow, and you guys have done that for us, and I love where we're at now. I feel like we are in a much more comfortable place.

[B]

Comfortable.

[C]

I know everyone makes. Everyone says, I don't know how to say that word. And it's because I don't know how to say that.

[A]

Some facts are just.

[B]

I love it, though. I'm not gonna correct you.

[C]

Comfortable and valuable. I cannot say those two words. And it's not because my mouth is paralyzed. I just cannot say those words.

[B]

True.

[A]

But honestly, like, I. I don't want to cry, but, like, when this show became just you and I, Kalila, like, I did not have the self worth to believe that, like, people would still, like, watch and, like, the fact that they do is just. I don't know, it's, like, cool, because I didn't believe, like, I wanted to try, but I didn't know that we would make it this far, you know?

[C]

And I will say, you know, we've always had, like, an arm's, like, length friendship and that's because I never really allowed you into. Now I'm going to cry. I never, I, I see, like, work. I've always been someone who's compartmentalized my life. Work is work. And I don't mix it, mix it with my personal stuff because, you know, it's fear of, like, disappointment or fear of possibly letting someone in and them not liking me, and I cry really ugly with this new face. But just let me, let me say what.

[B]

I'm literally gonna cry.

[C]

I, I think what I'm most grateful for is that I finally let you into my life, and that didn't happen until this year. And you've been, like, a really massive, like, support system, support person for me and including Jenna. And Jenna and I have, like, you know, we've had a long break of our friendship, and it's just a different feeling now. And I feel like, just so grateful that I have you guys to lean on and that I've opened myself up to you. And I like you. I genuinely was afraid that I wouldn't, I was like, oh, my God, if I let her in. And I'm just, She's gonna be this way. And no, I like you more and more each time. And we don't always agree on stuff, but, like, I really do.

[B]

That's, like, one thing about Esther is, like, if you just meet her, you think that, like, she kind of suc. On the surface if you don't let her in. It's true. Because you also close yourself off to, like, you're not just going to give yourself to anyone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's not worth it for you. You've done that before a lot in the past, and it's led you to not such great places. And so I feel like it's, I've known Esther deeply for so long, and I know how great she is and how wonderful and genuine and, like, what an actually good friend she is. But I know that, like, with her, it's kind of like all or nothing. And so if you're getting, like, just the. On the surface, Esther, like, yeah, it's, you're not really, you're not really getting much.

[A]

It can be prickly, too. Like, I, I, I appreciate. First of all, I'm really grateful that you've let me. And I also, though, want to be very clear, like, the, your boundaries will always be respected by me because I know that I can be, like, needy, annoying, all these little things that some people might perceive. But, like, I can really, I respect boundaries. So just know if you want to let me out anytime you can.

[C]

But, like, I don't think I've ever cried to you up until this year. Like, I never thought.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, she's like, my go to. Esther knows every single thing about me.

[C]

But when it's like.

[A]

And I wish I didn't, but she.

[C]

Can be a really good, like, coach in that way. It's very.

[B]

She seems like she doesn't be, but she is.

[A]

I love this episode.

[C]

You're a good person.

[A]

But I do. And I don't want to spend too much time on this, but I do feel, obviously the exact same about you guys. The way that you lift me up like this to me, like, this is girlhood. This is womanhood. Like, when I'm with you guys, because I don't always. I haven't always really known that true female friendship. And that's a big. Like, I talk with my therapist. Like, that's a big thing that I'm. I'm wanting to add into my life this year or just grow more of.

[B]

Okay, but not too many.

[A]

No, no, no. Quality, not quantity. Don't worry. Anyways. But I feel, like, intense pride about this. This, this. Just this.

[B]

Also, thank you both for letting me be on this.

[A]

Well, you're fired.

[B]

But for letting me visit every now and then.

[C]

It's so crazy to me, too, that, like, people don't realize, like, the web of.

[B]

It's crazy.

[C]

The web of friendship. But every. Everything goes back to Jenna. Like, if I know somebody, it's always like, how do we know each other? Oh, it's probably.

[B]

It's really weird.

[C]

I mean, Gilbert, who I do Tiger Belly with, I know him through Jenna, so.

[A]

See is through Jenna.

[C]

Shane D. Is through Jenna. Just about everyone.

[B]

Oh, yeah. It's crazy. It's weird. My whole life has kind of been like that because I love sharing my friends, mainly because then it's like I have less responsibility. I just put them on other people.

[A]

No, you're a super connector.

[B]

Yeah. I love that. Calls you. That's me. Especially because, like, I have really stopped my roster of friends, like, in the last five or six years. But that's like, Sosie's dad was on the Kelly Clarkson show, and another one of my friends, Ego, was on it, and they both texted me that morning, like, look who I'm with. We know you because of you. And on the show, they were like, yeah, you know, Jenna. Jenna. Who's Jenna? And then the person who was like, the show producer I've known since I was 13 in high school.

[C]

That's crazy.

[B]

And he texted me like they were talking about Jenna, and I think that they're talking about you. And I was like, what the fuck?

[A]

Wait. I am really scared to say this, because I'm scared you're gonna be like, this is like an heirloom from my great grandfather. But your necklace is so ugly. It's so stupid.

[C]

Is that the one with a tooth?

[B]

What is this? I lost my tooth.

[A]

This is so dumb.

[B]

It's an actual peanut.

[A]

Oh, okay. That's cool.

[B]

It's from Jimmy Carter when he was running for president.

[A]

What do you mean?

[B]

So. Because his family was, like, peanut farmers, and so they. It's like a vintage. Don't squeeze it too hard, though.

[A]

Okay, I won't. Where'd you get it?

[B]

Pygmy hip. Pygmy hippo or whatever. The one on, like, a long time ago.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

The story is good behind it.

[B]

I also got one for Asa, too.

[A]

But just a gold peanut. Stupid. Can we agree it's raw? Sound off in the comments.

[C]

She also used to have her wisdom tooth.

[B]

My wisdom tooth. You remember that? I had my wisdom tooth and I saved it and got it turned into a necklace, and then it broke and I lost it. And every day I think of it, and I really have to work on letting go of it, but I'm having trouble.

[C]

Are you. Are you sad about the tooth? Are you sad about the jewelry that held the tooth?

[B]

The tooth?

[C]

Oh, okay. Why?

[B]

Because it's gone. I don't know why the tooth is gone.

[C]

I know, but it's like, you know.

[A]

Do you need it?

[C]

You shave your hair.

[B]

But my tooth. Anyhow, I have two backup wisdom teeth, but I didn't like them as much as this one. This one just felt so perfect. I feel like a part of me was lost.

[C]

The removal of my wisdom. I was scammed.

[B]

Did I tell you I was awake, by the way? Because I was so scared to be put down.

[A]

So was I. I was put out. And I loved it. I. I just remember they put you down getting out.

[C]

She didn't ask for it.

[A]

I felt that was like when I was in my. Watched E all day. Eat your Hollywood stories. So when I was groggy, I was like, 18. Groggy. I'm like, oh. It's like I just got plastic surgery. Like all the celebrities. I was loving it.

[B]

Loser. I know.

[C]

Mine was so up. It turns out I told you, like, all of my back teeth and top back teeth are filled with silver filling that I did not need.

[A]

Why?

[C]

When I came from the Philippines, this dentist Was like, oh, we're just going to bill her insurance. I didn't have a single cavity. I've never had a cavity. And so got filled all the way up both rows and then got my four wisdom teeth removed. Didn't need them removed. Didn't have any discomfort, pain. Just so my insurance would. He would bill my insurance, bitch.

[B]

Let me tell you this. And people don't fight back because their insurance is paying for it. So they're like, oh. They don't say, like, oh, no, no, I'm not paying this. My friend Emma, last week, you know Emma? Yeah, Emma, she's never had a cavity. She takes very good care of her teeth. She flosses every morning and night after she eats, she comes here. And I mean, she lives here now. And so I don't know if the dentists here are a little more scammy.

[A]

Of course it's la. Fuck everybody. The fucking doctors here want to be famous. Listen, hate, Em.

[B]

Listen a bitch.

[A]

I'm going to medical school on Reddit.

[B]

Listen, bitch. 19 cavities. She doesn't listen. She doesn't tell me because I would have said like, oh, no, maybe don't do that. Same day, she gets 11 of them fixed because she was like, I can't fucking believe. This is insane. I go, emma, you probably should get a second opinion because maybe you don't have 19 cavities.

[C]

It fell out.

[B]

The cavity fell out that day. The filling, the crown, the filling. She went back to go get it fixed. I was in the car on the phone with her yesterday, and they go, hey, so we're ready for you to come in and get your teeth cleaning. And it's gonna be an extra hundred dollars out of pocket for the medication that we're gonna give to you for the swelling of your gums. And she goes, okay. And I go, no, no, no, Ask them what medication. She goes, oh, yeah, can you just let me know what medication it is? We don't know that, but we can find out more information.

[C]

Some ladies, except for Dr. Tunzi and mine, my dentist now, who's been my family dentist for over 20 years. When I went over to him, he's the guy who was like, you don't have a single thing wrong with your mouth. I thought I had gum disease. I thought my teeth, my. The dentist literally told, maybe you won't have teeth by the time you're 22. So I need to do all of these things. And he was like, your teeth are in great shape. Dr. Tunzi is an honest dentist. So he's my guy. I recommend Dr. Toonsy. What up, Jessica's dentist? Do not go to her dentist because her front tooth fell out and then she needed to get it replaced, and then it fell again while eating pho. The softest food.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Now I don't remember having pain when I got my wisdom teeth out. Did you?

[B]

What?

[C]

What? No. Like a blowfish for months.

[B]

They were impacted. They had to drill into my. I remember them holding my head like this because I was awake.

[A]

Let me go back, let me go back. Rewind, rewind, rewind. I. I didn't have, like, a pain that I noticed to prompt them taking them out.

[B]

Oh, did you? No. Sounds very different.

[A]

No, but you were saying that it's bad that you got them taken out, that they. Without having them.

[C]

Well, there was like, there was no reason, evidence or reason to suggest that they. It was causing crowding.

[A]

Normal, though.

[B]

It's not a same day thing. Wisdom teeth. It's like we show you on your X rays. Oh, hey, there's going to be crowding. Your teeth are going to move.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

There was no explanation. It was just like all four were gone. And then it took 20 minutes. And I could see, like, the blood flying because I didn't. I didn't. Unlike you, they did not want to put me to sleep.

[A]

I had four permanent teeth pulled, which I feel like is a scam.

[B]

You do have a really small mouth, though.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It seems like you have less space.

[A]

But I feel like I would have made space. I trust my mouth.

[B]

Her teeth go back into her tonsils.

[A]

Like, it's just weird that.

[B]

No, but that's fairly.

[A]

If you trust your body. If they don't. If my body doesn't know how to make room.

[B]

I mean, just like we stopped having tails.

[C]

Yeah, the body doesn't.

[A]

You stopped having a tail.

[B]

No, I still have mine.

[A]

I thought I saw your tail last week. Wait, you definitely have a tail. It's weird that you're trying to act like you don't.

[C]

Oh, thank you. By the way, where did you guys get these gigantic bananas? I also love those for you, Kalila.

[A]

I thought you'd appreciate these are making Kalila horny as they really are.

[C]

Target.

[B]

I'm gonna heal your face.

[C]

This one's the paralyzed side. Oh, yeah. It actually feels really good.

[B]

I like that. A penis just like. But not someone else doing it. Me just going.

[C]

You know.

[B]

Okay. I do like the ripeness of these bananas, though. Like the stage that they're, I think.

[C]

One more day perfection.

[B]

I like yeah, this is a little almost green.

[A]

This needs a day. You're. You're not.

[B]

Well, I like almost a little green.

[A]

Okay, let's. Let's talk Thanksgiving. I've got some questions.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Is this acceptable? Yes or no? If they. If you're at someone's house and they serve fish.

[B]

But I think fish is acceptable anytime.

[C]

Yes. 100. Can we just do away with a boring turkey that makes you sleepy?

[A]

Why do we have to do away with it? It's only once a year.

[C]

Because. Poor animal. It's like every year they're like, oh, my God, we're gonna get called to death. You know, just so. It's just. Can we.

[B]

And they're like mass producing it. Pumping them up, get them growing, get them.

[C]

Can we diversify our Thanksgiving dinner portfolio? That's all I'll say. Because this year we're not doing turkey. I think aloha is making. Oh, prime rib.

[A]

Oh, really?

[C]

Yeah. Oh, prime rib. And he's doing. We're not doing turkey at all.

[A]

I have to say though, there's something I like about the routine of once a year I'm eating turkey, cranberry, stuffing, gravy, like, and then, you know, maybe the. Maybe let's say it's April and I walk into a sandwich shop in Washington and they have a Thanksgiving style sandwich. I get that. It reminds me of my Thanksgiving. I like being able to have that sense memory so strong around one specific day.

[C]

I. I see where what you're saying, and I think maybe it's because you grew up with Thanksgiving. I don't have, like, emotional attachment to the holiday at all. I only see it as like, oh, time to get a tree.

[A]

Oh, right.

[C]

Because Christmas is our super Bowl. Right? So I don't know. I understand what you're saying. Like, it is all delicious.

[B]

I missed what you said. Sorry.

[A]

I'm not gonna repeat it. It's a podcast.

[C]

It's nostalgic. That's the.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I don't care about that. Carry on.

[C]

Yeah, but so basically that. I think fish at Thanksgiving is a yes for me. Absolutely. 100 lobster go muscles do it all.

[A]

Okay, well, you've heard from the Filipino girl, and we all knew she was gonna say yes to fish. Okay, that was a trick question.

[B]

And for me, yes, fish.

[A]

Next question.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Should your sweet potatoes have marshmallows? No, Marshmallows are a dessert.

[B]

No, wait, sweet potatoes also dessert.

[A]

No, not at Thanksgiving. They're a side.

[C]

Ow.

[A]

Ow. She hurt me. She broke my hand.

[B]

It's the hand side Sweet potatoes. Look at the difference from our hand size.

[A]

It is.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

It's titillating.

[C]

You also have big feet for being a short girl.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what's weird? I didn't know Jenna was short.

[C]

I didn't either. You know, it's crazy because she doesn't read short. You do.

[A]

She's my height, though.

[C]

Yeah, but you guys are the same height. But she does not read.

[A]

No, I know, but can I tell you something? I am great at being short. I. It fits her. It's absolutely disgusting that she's short.

[C]

I think so, too, because she's, like, I think so big and manly.

[A]

She should be your height.

[C]

And it's disappointing.

[A]

Disgusting that she's my height.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't even think she's shorter. I never feel like she's shorter than me. I'm not.

[B]

I don't think I'm shorter than anyone.

[A]

It's very creepy.

[B]

Unless you're, like, 7ft tall, like that guy I on the lawn. Then I'm shorter than you. But that's like, wait, can I.

[C]

It's crazy that I remember his name. Don't say, I will. Will bleep it.

[A]

I hate the way you say it. I hate the way you say it. Wait.

[B]

Yeah, you guys are saying the same thing. You just say in one way, you say it another.

[A]

Please keep it in.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

And I forgot, but just remembered, even with you saying it wrong, I knew.

[B]

That'S how you say his name, because.

[C]

Wasn'T he, like, Eastern European?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, he was.

[C]

Yeah, he was.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, he was.

[C]

You're. You. Him. We didn't.

[A]

But that's why it's hard for him.

[B]

And it wasn't a. It's not like he. He was bad or disgusting. It's just, you know, like, oh, I.

[A]

Thought you were so proud of what you did.

[B]

I was proud of what I did.

[C]

Can I tell you how quickly this whole thing devolved, by the way? Because on. While she was on the plane, she was texting me, this guy's, like, the love of my life.

[A]

He's really hot.

[C]

And then it turned into, this guy won't shut the fuck up. And then it turned into, I just fucked a guy on a lawn in Koreatown. And then the day after, I'm never speaking to him again. It was, like, such a quick, like, turnaround each time.

[B]

I will also say I never had my days of just fucking people. Guys like, oh, yeah, you did.

[A]

Yes, you did.

[B]

Well, those were my days. But it's like they came to Me. Very late.

[C]

It was one.

[B]

They ended very quickly. Like I was really trying to. I had. I still had sex so late.

[A]

You did not have sex so late.

[B]

I was 19, in college.

[A]

That's just. That's so late, girl.

[B]

The first person I made out with was in college. And then he became. Became my boyfriend for two years.

[A]

That's pretty. Like, that's not sole. I'm just letting you know. I actually think what we did is probably so early.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Even though I don't remember.

[B]

Appropriate to have sex later.

[A]

Yeah. That's good.

[B]

But then every.

[A]

Me as a mom. That's not so late. That's early.

[B]

That's the perfect timing. But then it's like, by the time I was 22, I had had sex with one person. That's unacceptable.

[C]

Should I ask Aloha about the casserole he's making?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

We'll see if he can. Marshmallows. Okay, let's say you're getting your piece of pie, right? Maybe it's pecan, maybe it's pumpkin.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Pumpkin. Okay. Sweet potato. Okay.

[A]

What are you topping it with? And you can only. If you can only pick one or the other.

[B]

Nothing.

[A]

What? Shut up.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Whipped cream or ice cream? Pick one. Cream whip.

[C]

Babe. Oh, I didn't know it was a call Question. You're on the pod. What. What casserole are you making for Thanksgiving again? Sweet potato one.

[A]

No, Roger's making sweet potato. I'm gonna make Portuguese sausage stuffing.

[C]

Oh, okay. Well, if you were to make island stuffing guys.

[A]

What?

[B]

Island stuffing guys. Okay. Thank you.

[A]

Sweet bread and sausage.

[C]

Sweet bread and sausage.

[B]

That sounds real good.

[C]

Okay, thank you. Love you. Bye.

[B]

Okay, love you. Bye. Thank you.

[A]

Isn't it nice that even though your face is paralyzed, he still wants to give you that island stuff?

[B]

You know what is so crazy is that if we said that to Esther, she'd be like, stop. Ew.

[A]

Gross.

[B]

Stop. Let's move on. Okay, the question you asked, I would say coconut. Whipped cream.

[A]

That was not my option. You can only pick whipped cream or ice cream.

[B]

Whipped cream.

[A]

If it's coconut, you're putting your piece. Listen, listen.

[C]

Okay, okay.

[A]

Stay still. Stay where you are. Do not move. You get your piece of pie. You can have pecan or pumpkin.

[C]

Okay, Pecan. Okay. I don't like pumpkin.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I was about to have a patina.

[A]

Go ahead. Whipped cream or ice cream?

[C]

Oh, they can see my eye.

[A]

You can only pick one. Whipped cream or ice cream?

[C]

Ice cream.

[B]

Ew. Ew.

[C]

Ice cream. Hot. Warm and cold. A la mole.

[B]

That is disgusting.

[A]

How you would say disgusting. Please don't bleep it. Please, guys.

[B]

No, because what if he contacts me?

[C]

What's he gonna say? We?

[A]

Yeah, he's gonna love it. He wasn't European. He doesn't watch podcasts.

[C]

He just talked too much.

[B]

I just didn't know him, so I didn't.

[A]

I have to say, I'm shocked at how quickly you guys both chose. Excuse me. I almost died. Because pumpkin versus pecan is, like, a very, very difficult decision. And you guys just, like, it's a very easy decision. You're sick.

[C]

And you're either a pumpkin girl or you're not.

[A]

No, you're.

[B]

What in the would you want? Want? I would also do sweet potato pie.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Sweet potato pumpkin pie.

[A]

Nobody.

[B]

It's like an Aunt Sally.

[A]

She wants pecan.

[C]

I want pecan.

[A]

Pecan pie is so good. You never had it then you're stupid.

[B]

I don't like pies.

[C]

How stupid are you?

[B]

Pretty stupid. I don't like ice cream. I don't like pie.

[C]

Have you never had the pecan bar from. They used to be called Jamaica's cakes, but now they're called something else. I can't remember. The best pecan bar ever. If you've never had that, you are missing a huge joy in your life.

[A]

I've never had that.

[C]

Called top tier cakes Now. It's on the west side. It's on Pico.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

It's like a place I was picturing, like, a little, like, ho, ho.

[B]

It looks like I'm fine. This is something I used to do all the time.

[A]

Okay. It's Thanksgiving dinner.

[C]

This is so stupid.

[A]

This is something else you're gonna do.

[C]

All this doesn't make sense.

[A]

I'm just ignoring you.

[C]

So stupid.

[A]

Jenna, you're at the Thanksgiving table.

[C]

Okay?

[A]

Are you getting a roll, or are you saving room and not getting a roll? Because maybe you. I don't know. Actually, I've said too much. Are you having your bread or not?

[C]

Oh, having your bread.

[A]

You are.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

A roll. You.

[A]

Yeah. I can't picture myself not getting the role if I'm being honest.

[C]

And, like, what is this talk about saving space? You push past discomfort and you eat more. There is no. There's no such thing as being at the Thanksgiving dinner and be like, oh, I'm full. That's not a sentence. Like, there's. That doesn't exist in my family.

[A]

What is your opinion of the people? And you know those guys, right? You know the people where they take the role. You Know, I'm gonna say, everyone, everyone knows.

[B]

No, I don't.

[A]

Take the role.

[B]

Just say it so we can know.

[A]

Are you hearing me? Stay still while I speak. Stay still.

[B]

If you could speak, that'd be phenomenal.

[A]

They take the role, they open it up, and they make a sandwich with the turkey and all the stuffing, the fillings.

[B]

That sounds good.

[C]

Yeah. What's the problem?

[A]

I don't know. I just wanted to hate on it because I was picturing Dave doing it. Even though it does sound good, it does sound.

[C]

I'll do you one better. Filipino style. You take a pandesal. It's just a hot roll. Don't get caught up in the words. A hot little, cute little roll. You open it up, you put cold Filipino spaghetti with the noodles, and you turn it into a spaghetti sandwich. I know. Don't ugh me, Stella.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

You know, like the day old spaghetti when you were younger? I would put it on bread.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

And eat it cold.

[C]

Jenna.

[B]

What?

[C]

What did I do? It's like you're. You're making me fall in love with you all over again.

[A]

You're making me think you nasty. So you're both nasty. Spaghetti as a sandwich?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Please try it.

[B]

It's really very, really very good.

[C]

It's almost sick. Cold spaghetti in general. The next day.

[B]

The Mexicans and Filipinos are so similar.

[C]

Well, we are the Mexicans of the sea.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Of the sea.

[B]

It's true. Yeah.

[C]

Like, there are two things that people call Filipinos. It's either we're the black people of Asia, or we're the Mexicans of the sea. And we wear that proudly.

[A]

There's nothing that you guys aren't proud of.

[C]

Well, it's because we've just been colonized for so long that we're just this amalgamation of everything. And, you know, I think it's beautiful.

[A]

You guys are proud of Spam. Like, you will stop at nothing. Your pride stops nowhere.

[C]

And. And here's what I'll say is there was a time when saying you were Filipino was not a cool thing. And when I started podcasting with however long ago that was, I, people would be like, why does she keep saying she's Filipino? Or why does she keep talking about the Philippines? It's because I grew up with a lot of Filipinos having a lot of shame about being Filipino because, you know, it's like the colonized mind. Right? We revere western culture. We revere whiteness. We've been colonized for 400 something years, and it's Relevant, too. But it was so, like, it was something like, it was a place I grew up and had had, like, continue to have, like, fond memories of. So, like, she won't shut up about being Filipino. I'll never shut up about it. I love. I love who I am. I love where I was born and.

[B]

You know, and also until, like, white men stop talking about, like, being proud, you don't have to do anything.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

And you should double down.

[C]

I thought you were gonna say white men going to the Philippines and getting, like, being passport bros. I'm like, oh, I think my dad was a passport bro.

[A]

And we support that.

[C]

Thank you for you and your dad.

[B]

Good on your daddy.

[A]

Should there be an appetizer served or should all the food be laid out at all?

[B]

Get to the fucking food. Get to the food.

[C]

My step papa, he makes deviled eggs, and he makes them really well. Roger, shout out. And so I don't mind an appetizer.

[B]

Okay. But you can eat it at the same time as the food. It's okay. Beforehand.

[A]

She's. Hold on. She's very mistaken right now. We need to help her. That is not an appetizer. That is a spread. A part of a spread.

[C]

What is a pre dinner?

[B]

An appetizer is like a small.

[A]

Like, you're sitting down and they're like, here's your soup.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you only have the soup.

[C]

The fact that you're saying soup is an appetizer, but a deviled egg is not is, like, blowing my mind. It's whatever.

[B]

She didn't make the rules.

[C]

It's whatever comes before she did train poo poos. Whatever. Whatever comes before the entree is an aperitif.

[B]

Okay. I guess I don't know that word.

[A]

Because I don't drink. And it feels.

[C]

What is an aperitif? Yeah.

[A]

Oh, it is. I thought it was a drink.

[C]

That's aperol Spritz.

[B]

No. Can't you have an aperitif that's like a drink like. Yeah, Ghia g H I a that brand.

[A]

That's a non alcoholic aperitif.

[C]

Cause what's apreritif?

[A]

An aperitif is an alcoholic beverage. Serve before.

[C]

Wrong. Kalila. She's correct.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it has, like, gentian root in it and. Yeah. Well, you're thinking of appetizer.

[A]

No, that's what Kalila was thinking of.

[C]

Yeah. I was thinking I got it wrong.

[A]

Yes. I've never been right before. I live with you.

[B]

We'll find a way to make this wrong.

[A]

What about mashed potatoes? Do we want them extremely smooth or lumpy, clumpy, junky.

[B]

Lumpy, clumpy, junky. Honestly, either. But my dad used to. We used to do Thanksgiving in my house, and my dad's a chef, and he would do the lumpy, clumpy.

[C]

Yeah, I'm into the more smashed potatoes.

[B]

And with skin.

[C]

And with the skin.

[A]

Oh, skin is. Yeah, that's high class.

[B]

Yeah, that's.

[A]

You're in an expensive household if there's skin in there.

[C]

Do you know how there's like. Like this whole movement against cyber trucks? Do you see that on TikTok?

[B]

No, I didn't know there was a movement. I just thought it was, like, obvious.

[C]

It's so funny. I know, but someone recently. Oh, there was, like, a comment. Someone said that it looked like someone tried to peel a potato with a knife. That's what it looks like. Just like how jagged it is.

[B]

Oh, my God. That is good.

[C]

That is so. That's exactly what it looks like.

[A]

It is just like driving around being like, I'm a baby and this is my car. It's.

[B]

And I can't see and I don't care.

[C]

And then someone also said about Elon Musk's body, someone said he. He has an autopsy body. Wait, is that because he's bloated that an autopsy body? Someone commented that, and I could not not stop laughing.

[A]

That is so funny. That is. And honestly, I will not stand for any slander, except if it's on Elon Musk's physical body. That's the only insults that I think are acceptable.

[C]

What is this?

[B]

Hand lotion.

[C]

Oh, thank you. Oh, my God, my hands are dry.

[A]

Wait, actually, I do want some. I changed my mind because this oil sucks.

[C]

Okay, so lumpy potatoes is where we landed.

[B]

Yes, we like lumpy potatoes, for sure. Also, like, you're using all the parts of it like you were meant to.

[C]

Okay, I have the green bean casserole. Can you guys explain to me why that's a thing and why it's good?

[B]

I don't know. I'm not into it.

[A]

Oh, this is your anti white casserole? Like, propaganda?

[C]

No, because my stepdad makes a broccoli cheddar casserole. That is so delicious.

[A]

Does it have chicken?

[B]

Does it have Velveeta cheese?

[C]

I think it does have Velveeta.

[B]

That is the key.

[C]

But it also has Ritz crackers in it.

[B]

Ooh, that's very white.

[A]

I love a green bean casserole. I love a broccoli cheddar casserole.

[C]

Sounds I like green beans. I just don't understand why it has to be in a form of a. What makes it a casserole? Just the dish that it comes in.

[A]

The dish, the adding and adding the toppings, the baking factor of it.

[C]

Okay. You know, sell me on it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I just. I think a green bean casserole is right for you and your family at this time. And for 3.99, you can get. If you want to Upgrade to the 4.99 model of green bean casserole.

[B]

Are you making green bean casseroles?

[A]

I actually am selling them this thing and sluggies. If you go to greenbeencasterol.com Esther, use my code.

[B]

Use my code scam.

[A]

I think that on. If I'm being completely honest, I. On Thanksgiving, really want to load heavy on the sides. Let's be honest. Turkey is dry as Mac and cheese is good. No, that's not a Thanksgiving side. You're. That was the craziest thing you've ever said.

[C]

It can be, Esther.

[B]

Why was it not.

[A]

It's not a regret at Thanksgiving.

[B]

Have you ever been to break the market?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yes, exactly. That was the only thing that came.

[A]

To mind when you said Mac and cheese as a side.

[B]

It's literally.

[C]

You're literally losing your mind. Mac and cheese as a side for all occasions.

[A]

Mac and cheese is a centerpiece of a meal. It's not a side. It's a pasta. It's a dish.

[C]

It's.

[A]

It. No, no.

[B]

Your Lexapro is working, too.

[A]

No, it's not a Thanksgiving side. You could.

[B]

Anything.

[A]

You just think that because of Boston Market, and I get it. Boston Market did a great job marketing. Mac and cheese is literally the rotisserie chicken. It's not a side. I think it's.

[C]

Mac and cheese aside, what makes a side aside. I.

[D]

Yes, it is.

[A]

I'm sorry.

[B]

Looks like three to one you done that.

[A]

I'm that insecure that three people telling me I'm wrong means anything to me about what we're talking about Mac and cheese.

[B]

What's. What's another side? You said mashed potatoes.

[A]

Mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes.

[B]

We've already mentioned those. We've already mentioned carb.

[C]

Carb, Carb, Carb. Well, Mac and cheese is a carb.

[A]

But it's not a Thanksgiving side.

[B]

Girl, you dumb.

[C]

Well, you know what? You know. You know, you might be right in that I really don't have knowledge about Thanksgiving sides.

[A]

That's right. And I hate.

[C]

Neither do you.

[A]

I am the only white woman at this couch at this in this lounge.

[B]

And donut. And I bet she thinks Mac and cheese is a side.

[A]

Oh, well, donut likes cheese.

[C]

Okay, so you're going side heavy this Thanksgiving. And no turkey, just sides.

[A]

I've always identified as a side queen. I think turkey is just. It's never that good. And I love Thanksgiving. And I will have. I'll try the turkey every time, and I will go in with a good attitude, but I will know that it's just. It's not gonna. It's gonna be dry.

[B]

Attitude is the most important thing.

[A]

But I'm still happy because the sides are everything. Right.

[B]

What about the gravy? Isn't that to moisten it?

[A]

Yeah, but I add all the gravy on all my sides.

[C]

My mom, the next day, she takes the bones and, like, the. The leftover meat them, and then she eats the bones.

[A]

Your mom would. And she'd be fine.

[C]

You've not seen her eat. She takes apart. She cracks the bones in half, and she sucks the flavor.

[A]

What?

[B]

My mom does that, too, but that's.

[C]

Not what I was gonna say.

[B]

And the grizzle just.

[C]

Yeah, but she takes it, and she turns into Pak SEO. Paxio is. Is. Is a Filipino way of taking whatever scraps of meat from the day before, whether it's like, lechon or whatever meat, and then you put it in, turn it into, like, an adobo. Kind of like a stew.

[B]

That's so good.

[C]

And it's really good. And I think breakfast. Sorry, I almost died.

[A]

Thinking about the stew for breakfast.

[C]

But it's really good breakfast food. And it's very.

[B]

Yeah, because everywhere else in the world, they eat actual good food for breakfast.

[C]

Yeah. And we eat fish for breakfast.

[B]

Yeah, you have, like, meal and stew fries.

[C]

Why don't you guys eat for fish for breakfast here?

[A]

Because we have Fruit Loops.

[C]

I got my second Ugh. From Stella.

[A]

We have Oreo cookies for breakfast because our government wants us to die early.

[B]

I do chicken sausage. Sorry, I just died.

[A]

We eat Cookie Crisp. Wait, do you guys not start every day? What's so funny?

[B]

No.

[A]

What's so funny?

[C]

She's so stupid.

[B]

What?

[A]

What?

[C]

She's so dumb out there.

[A]

Why say it?

[C]

She wanted to add a statement on top of what I said. And then she was just like, I eat chickens.

[A]

I know. She's stupid.

[C]

She's so stupid. And no one said anything.

[A]

Cause she just. She just says nothing. She's stupid. No, I didn't even do it. What are we supposed to say to that?

[C]

Good job.

[A]

Stupid ass.

[B]

So bad that literally Neither one of you could, like, not throw me under the bus or just, like, save me.

[A]

It was so.

[C]

You know what the energy was.

[B]

I like turtles, Leah.

[C]

I like turtles. I like turtles. I like turtles. That's exactly.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I eat chicken sausage. Wait, by the way, is everyone in this room telling me that they don't start every morning with a big bowl of Cookie Crisp?

[B]

I hate chicken sausage.

[C]

Wait, is this true?

[A]

You don't have Cookie Crisp every morning?

[B]

That's disgusting. You don't do that.

[C]

No, I start my day off with bananas. At a surprise to anyone.

[A]

No, it's not. That's why this podcast's thriving, because you invented the banana break.

[C]

And truly, like, I come here and I eat. I died again. The engines stopped. I eat. I come here and I eat two more bananas and. And I do go home thinking, like. I think I'm, like, overloaded. This wasn't a good idea.

[B]

But I know you. You can't say no.

[A]

No.

[C]

And I take all the uneaten bananas home.

[A]

Do you eat your bananas plain?

[B]

What else do you eat them with?

[A]

Chocolate or peanut butter? Eggs?

[B]

Peanut butter. I could do peanut butter, but typically I just eat a banana or put it in a smoothie. Do you want me to tell you what I do for my mornings?

[A]

No. What?

[B]

It's. You're the first person who asked me what I do every night.

[A]

No, that's why I actually know what you do.

[B]

I start out with some warm water.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Okay. Because your body needs warmth for digestion. Then I put a little bit of warm water with apple cider vinegar.

[A]

But do you really do that every day?

[B]

I did it this morning. I usually do it every morning. Yes. Sometimes I don't do the apple cider vinegar, but always the warm water.

[C]

Why?

[A]

How do you warm it up?

[B]

I mean, you could do a pot, you could do a kettle. There's many ways to do this. That's not the hard part. Let's get past that. Then I turn my pan on. I get a piece of frozen bread that I've either cut sourdough, gluten free.

[A]

Do you think you're on, like, Vogue 15 questions or whatever right now?

[B]

And then I start the chicken sausage.

[A]

Hi. Arc Digest. I'm Jenna, and this is my breakfast. Hey, Cribs. Hey. Remember when Atsuko said she was the first person on Cribs who was a renter? That was the funniest thing I've ever heard.

[B]

Crazy. Is that a real thing?

[A]

I don't know that.

[B]

They're, like, Doing renters.

[D]

That might have been a joke. Can I go back really quick to the fish question, Kalila, and just tell.

[C]

You that, like, must I remind you that you're half Japanese and that Japanese people eat fish for breakfast? I know, but I was raised by.

[D]

A Japanese dad that was raised by white people. But I'm sorry that I think. It's just we were. We're all sugar addicts and thinking about having a fish smelliness, all that stuff.

[C]

Why does fish have to be smelly? You're not eating good fish.

[A]

I don't know. That's what I'm.

[C]

Oh, this is a fight.

[A]

This is a fight. Oh.

[B]

Like a donut.

[C]

Donut. Sorry.

[B]

Your mom.

[A]

Mom has lost it. Oh, my God. The show might not be here next week, man.

[C]

Okay, so go ahead, Stella. Say it with your whole chest.

[A]

I just think that you're bad fish.

[D]

Maybe in this economy, maybe I can't. I don't have good fish. But it's also, like, I think fish in the morning is crazy.

[A]

It's, like, bad.

[D]

So that's too potent a smell. In the morning. In the morning. I want it to be, like, sugary and light and fluffy. But this could be American culture.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

What about egg and chicken, sausage and avocado?

[C]

Well, I think that in American culture, you. You guys are used to cereal, right? Everywhere else in the world, or at least in, like, Asia, where I grew up, it's eat rice, eat an egg. You can match them with. With longanisa, chorizo, fish. But there's always that protein and that rice.

[B]

Isn't there fruit, too?

[C]

And fruit. But then, like. Yeah, yeah. Not in the rice.

[B]

No, no. Just, like, available.

[A]

No, I. I'm with you. They weren't clear.

[C]

No, thank you.

[A]

They were not clear with you. Okay. I will represent you in this case. Thank you. I wish that I had fish for breakfast. I really do, but I'm with Stella. Like, it's just really hard when you grew up watching cartoons and eating cereal to, like, transition over to that.

[C]

Wait a second. But you are Jewish, and you guys.

[A]

Like locks and gefiltes and honestly, that. You know how sometimes you rebel against your own culture? That's what happened with me. Lock smells disgusting.

[B]

I love locks, and I don't love the smell.

[A]

Dave loves it. He has it all the time, and I'm just like, so.

[C]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. I don't know. It's so weird. It's like the lox and cream cheese in a bagel is, like, the most disgusting sight to Me like, I'd rather eat your boogers than that. It's so gross.

[B]

Wow, you just took it to like the worst. What, you think that's the worst?

[A]

I could do way worse. Girl, you would rather eat boogers?

[B]

You need to be a done.

[C]

You know, I dated like a booger eater for 10 years.

[A]

Bobby Lee. Yeah. Just say the name.

[B]

That's upsetting.

[C]

I mean, he likes his salty savories. Oh.

[A]

Oh, I take it back. I'll have the locks.

[C]

But I do. I do appreciate what you're saying, Stella. I think that it's just how you grew up. Whatever you grew up eating is what you're going to associate with breakfast.

[A]

I said that.

[C]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[D]

Yeah. I grew up in Vermont, which is the whitest state in the country. Even though it is the most progressive. It's the whitest. Let's not forget maple syrup. You are giving very Vermont. And sound off in the comments. You will remind me of every Vermonter I've ever met.

[B]

I don't know that that's a compliment.

[A]

No, it is.

[D]

Huge compliment.

[A]

I wanna. I've never been to Vermont, but I just know like, that's where I would be my best self. And they'd probably take her.

[B]

Let's take her there. Let's go take.

[C]

Let's take a trip.

[A]

Okay, Stella, take us around Vermont.

[B]

Oh, my God. Yeah, I've never been. Isn't there like that festival that happens every year?

[D]

Yeah, so my dad actually used to be one of the organizers. It's called Bread and Puppet and you make puppets and you eat bread and everyone's on hallucinogenics and you walk through a field.

[C]

Wow, that sounds fun.

[B]

But there's another festival there.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

That my friend Kara used to go to. Hi, Kara. Like what? Isn't it like the Dairy Festival maybe?

[D]

Sorry, I was raised by hippies.

[B]

Vermont Dairy Festival is hosted by the Falls Lines club. Yeah, it's like an every year thing. They're the 64 years going. Oh yeah, I've never been, but I know about it.

[C]

I'm just over here. I'm sorry. Look at these ding dongs on their phones. The show's not over.

[A]

No, no, no. I'm looking. I'm specifically looking.

[B]

Yeah, she's looking for. And I was looking the day Dairy Festival and then I got carried away. So you're right.

[D]

Where are you from, Jenna? Just out of curiosity.

[B]

Shy city. It's just I've changed the way that I've spoken because when I went to.

[C]

College, I think this is a good conversation to have. Actually, Jenna used to speak very differently.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

What does that mean?

[C]

And I think as did I, because when I first in high school, I really, really was like, I went to Blair High School. It was like mostly Latino and black.

[B]

Black, yeah. You probably spoke like a Latina and I spoke exactly culturally black. My school was 70 black. And you kind of speak like how all your friends do. My brother spoke like me. My dad speaks like you know how he does.

[A]

And so sorry, I know you're talking about some important cultural. That's fine. We'll talk about that on the patreon. I have something to bring to the table that is more important. Important. And I think you'll all agree once I share.

[B]

Better be some good.

[A]

We have a submission for someone who wants to date Stella.

[C]

Oh my God.

[A]

May I read it aloud?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Wait, so a couple episodes ago, many.

[A]

More than a couple at this point.

[C]

We asked the audience, it's like, well, we. Esther and I said that Stella is not allowed to choose her. Who the next person she dates because she's, she's a bad picker. She's really, really terrible at choosing. So Esther and I were like, we'll find you a husband. So here we are.

[A]

Okay, so someone I know wants to tell me about his friend Rob.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Meet Rob, a 32 year old photographer and videographer who's bringing his Chicago warmth to the vibrant streets of Brooklyn. After calling Tinley park home, Rob made the big move to New York around three years ago looking for new experiences and connections. He's a kind hearted, soft spoken guy with a hopeful romantic spirit. Always on the lookout for that special someone to share life's adventures with. Did you say he wants a job? That's funny though. He's not the most confident person. He's constantly working on himself, stepping outside his comfort zone and building new friendships. You'll often find him at local run clubs, staying active, hot, exploring the city and meeting like minded people. Rob's the kind of guy who's over the dating app scene and is seeking a real connection with someone who appreciates sincerity, kindness and a little old fashioned romance. Romance. If you enjoy exploring the city, staying active, or just having meaningful conversations, Rob might be the person you're looking for.

[C]

Did he write this?

[A]

No, this is written by our mutual friend, my friend Nico.

[B]

Okay, so there's someone who knows him.

[A]

Yeah, so this was not written by him. So that's better, right? Because that'd be cheesy if you wrote it himself.

[C]

Yeah, I was worried that he had written this himself in third person, which is, like, so red flaggy.

[B]

And I think the reason they mentioned the confidence thing is probably so that they could have a reason for why they were reaching out for him. Him.

[C]

But I, I, I will say, like, at our age, you don't. I'm not disgusted.

[D]

I, I don't really.

[B]

That's just how your face looks.

[D]

I think it.

[A]

I don't know. Wait, I think he's hot.

[C]

Can I see?

[A]

Hold on, hold on. You nasty.

[B]

We are nasty.

[A]

You guys, I think he's. This is like a weird video of him, but he's like. Yeah, he's cute.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, he is. Oh, I like him.

[C]

I think Stella only dates. Do you only date white boys, though? Sorry. Sorry. Did I out you?

[B]

No, she's. She'll be open to whatever we say.

[D]

Different ethnicities.

[C]

Okay. Oh, he's cute.

[A]

Yeah, he's cute. He's. He's cute.

[B]

He cute. Let me see.

[A]

Okay, well, let's see what happens. Next week.

[C]

We're gonna interview him.

[A]

Should we? Yes, yes. And also, you guys, keep your dm. I don't want them to DM the trash shoes. Well, who will? Ariel, can you sort through it? Because I don't want Stella to look at it because she's gonna be too picky.

[C]

Also, if you know of a good guy, you can nominate. Yeah, the good guy.

[A]

DM. The Trash Tuesday account. Yeah. Okay.

[C]

Find Stella. Husband 2025.

[A]

Yeah. And happy Thanksgiving, and we love you guys. Wait, let's. Let's all plug our little thingy. Okay, I'm gonna go first. I have a solo podcast. It's called Group therapy, and you can subscribe on [e-mail] Next.

[C]

Jenna.

[B]

I have by tia. Jenna, Pit Stop deodorant. A great gift for Thanksgiving.

[C]

I got you on this.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I've been. This is the only deodorant that I've used for the past 10 years of my life. Like, I. You guys know I'm the sweatiest person alive. The. The wrong scent could turn my funk the funkiest. And this is so clean, so beautiful. Scented, beautifully scented.

[A]

Do a demo.

[C]

There we go.

[B]

Take some.

[C]

And Jenna, where can they get this?

[B]

Why is Esther's hair everywhere?

[A]

That's not m. I smell so good. I actually love the smell so much.

[B]

You want to put it on there. You want to get it in the corners. Everywhere a stick would get.

[C]

Where do we buy it?

[B]

BuyTagenna.com that's B Y-T-I-A J E N-N-A.com or you can go to my. There's another piece of hair here.

[A]

Okay, well what do you want?

[B]

Or you can, you can go to your. You can go to my Instagram Jenna Drew Menes. I have a little link in the bio. Or you can go to I love the smell. You can go to Buy Tia Jenna Instagram. But the smell does go away once it starts eating your.

[C]

Yeah, but that's what you want. You want to smell like yourself. You don't want to smell like some over scented thing while they're doing this. I'd like to plug EB Ocean Club. Go to eboceanclub on Instagram or evoceanclub.com I started a hair care line, you guys.

[A]

And I just saw it in my bathroom this morning and I was like, why does it looks so cute?

[C]

Thank you. It's reef safe. It's hyper clean. It's got all the good stuff, none of the nasties.

[B]

I hate scents and it smells good.

[C]

Thank you. It is shiso yuzu moss. The middle notes. Well, you can.

[A]

It's such a good Christmas gift from. From one slug to another.

[C]

It is.

[B]

It's a good everything gift because like it'll get used. Everyone needs it.

[C]

Thank you. And if you want to know what I smell like every day go by ebb.

[B]

And that's exactly like you're showering with Kalila.

[A]

That's why I smell it every morning. To think of Kalila. That's how she smells.

[C]

And then that's what I do.

[A]

And now, now she's let me in. So now it's really going. Going good. Good sluggies. We love you. As always. We're grateful for you. We are so grateful for you. I can't say it enough. And as always, we'll see you next week with a brand new episode.

[C]

Bye.