Alison Wonderland is our Rave Mother

Summary

Trash Tuesday Podcast – "Alison Wonderland is our Rave Mother"

Hosts: Khalyla Kuhn & Esther Povitsky
Guest: Alison Wonderland (DJ & Producer)
Date: September 2, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of Trash Tuesday brings together hosts Esther Povitsky and Khalyla Kuhn, comedian/guest DJ Tiny Pussy (Ally Makofsky), and special guest Alison Wonderland for a raucous and honest roundtable that blends tales of pregnancy, the trauma and glory of live performance, rave and DJ culture, and the realness of creative life in the age of social media. The tone is funny, vulnerable, and loaded with wild anecdotes, juicy industry insights, and often-unfiltered opinions. Listeners are treated to candid stories about childbirth, the reality behind DJing, women in entertainment, audience expectations, miscarriages, and even advice on revealing personal secrets when dating.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Pregnancy & Birth Stories: The Ugly, The Unexpected, and the Hilarious

• Alison Wonderland opens up about her fraught journey to motherhood, including multiple miscarriages, IVF treatments, and harrowing childbirth (04:31–16:00).
  • Esther: “My journey to being pregnant was not easy. So I had four miscarriages...I had to do IVF. I couldn’t really get pregnant naturally...but I did never get sick with either of my pregnancies.” (01:34)
  • Both share anecdotes on performing major gigs while pregnant, with Alison recounting her headlining EDC at nine months.
  • Raw and real birth stories: Alison’s failed epidural, balloon induction (“like medieval torture”), ultimately ending in an emergency C-section after discovering she could never have delivered naturally (08:27–15:00).
  • Aftermath included a hemorrhage, botched anesthesia, and Alison’s post-surgery fight with medical staff (“I woke up trying to punch everyone” (11:00)).

“It was just like, I’ve actually never told this story. It’s actually insane.” – Alison Wonderland (08:27)

• The group reflects on the pressure to "follow the rules" in pregnancy — what to eat, what not to eat — and cultural contradictions, from eating sushi to the absurd idea of having “just a night cig” (06:00–07:06).

Miscarriage: Grief, Stigma, and the Pressure to Perform

• Alison and Ally both share the layered grief of miscarriages, especially as public figures who had to cancel shows and still faced criticism from fans (57:00–59:44).
  • “I didn’t want to have to explain myself to anyone…to this day, people made TikToks about me cancelling this show…Every single day I’ll get at least three DMs being like, ‘You cancelled this show’ and I’m like, I was losing a baby.” – Alison (56:33–57:41)
  • The ongoing feeling of mourning and pressure to maintain appearances is deeply discussed.

The Realities of DJ & Rave Culture

• A major thread is challenging the stereotype that DJs “just press play,” exploring gender bias in both music and comedy (17:18–22:14).
  • Ally: “I think DJs get hated on because we all secretly wish to be them.” (17:31)
  • Alison explains technical DJing, pride in not using “sync” functions, and the thrill of live performance as a former cellist (18:11–20:04).
  • Comparison to comedy: what constitutes “pressing play” (e.g., stealing jokes, never being in the moment) (23:15–24:06).

“If you’re DJing, there’s so many cool things you can do with the decks…I use the cue button a lot, I scratch, I do a lot of things. My hands are very busy up there…” – Alison Wonderland (19:04)

• Navigating sexism: The group discusses pressure to “dress down,” the double standards women face in DJing and comedy, and the reality of earning respect. (21:24–22:51)
  • “As a woman, you probably have to work harder to own your spot and be taken seriously. But no matter how hard you work, people will accuse you of just pressing play or whatever.” – Ally (21:41)

Performance Anxiety, Bombing & Audience Dynamics

• Both DJing and stand-up comedy are examined as performance arts where crowd reaction can make or break the experience (24:53–29:24).
  • Alison describes technical failures (mixer blowing onstage in front of 70,000 people) and strategies for winning a crowd back, relating it to bombed comedy sets.
  • Importance of focusing on the real fans: “Even if one person turns up to my show, I’m grateful…focus on that person and then that becomes contagious.” (26:22–26:57)
  • Both the DJ and comic are forced to adjust on the fly; when you bomb, creative problem-solving leads to the best moments.

“If you know how to work with a crowd, you can always turn it around.” – Alison Wonderland (25:11)

The Survival & Struggle of Creative Careers

• Creative persistence through “ten years of nobody caring” (27:07–29:10).
  • “When I started doing well, which was around 2015, it was like, ‘Oh, you’re seeing the tip of the iceberg.’ You don’t know how many times people told me no…I kept going and I showed up every day.” – Alison (27:07)
  • Angst about social media and AI overwhelming “realness.” Hope that backlash leads to a renewed craving for authentic moments (29:48–30:49).

ChatGPT & Therapy: Real Comfort or Just "Pathetic"?

• Lively segment about the comfort (and weirdness) of AI for everything from pet medical research to makeup advice to replacement for therapists (30:49–34:54).
  • Ally: “I sent [ChatGPT] photos of my face and was like, ‘Tell me everything I should change, what makeup…’ and it gave me a full breakdown.” (31:34)
  • The group muses on whether “empathetic” AI is sad, or just the next evolution of the internet (“ChatGPT gives you a hug while giving you answers.” – Alice (33:41))

Relationship Dilemmas: Big Toothless Energy

• Khalyla’s “dilemma”: When should her friend with full dentures reveal this fact to a new long-distance partner? (42:29–53:01)
  • Hilarious, roundtable strategizing: deliver “bad news when there’s a full boner involved,” “big toothless energy,” and tales of being “catfished by a tooth” versus just owning the truth.
  • Male guests are polled for their reactions (“No teeth on a blowjob sounds like a great idea” – Garth (45:27))
  • Ultimately: just be honest, do what feels right, and the group reflects on their own superficial icks (hair, hips, and more).

Tales from Rave Culture and the Value of Owning Your "Weird"

• DJ Tiny Pussy’s story of performing on a rave cruise, embracing PLUR (“Peace Love Unity Respect”), and the “wook” hookup gone awry when the beanie comes off to reveal total baldness (49:01–51:15).
• Universally, the women agree: Confidence and authenticity trump everything—even if you’ve got hips, no teeth, or hidden quirks.

Vulnerability, Female Friendship, and Closing Thoughts

• The discussion circles back to the value of telling the ugly truth, supporting other women, and knowing that “bombing” on stage or in life is part of the process.
• The episode closes on a note of camaraderie—a Vegas invite, shout-outs to festival fashion, and gratitude for the Trash Tuesday community.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Alison Wonderland, on DJ technicality and sexism:
  “I’ve been DJing for like a billion years before EDM was even a term...when you’re playing a festival, you can see how someone else has set up their decks. I don't use quantize, I don't use sync...and I judge, I judge.” (18:11–18:49)

• Alison, on failing epidurals and giving birth:
  “Epidural didn’t work on me, five times, so I was just like...Shout out to the guy who put his hand up my vagina and broke my water and told me that he loves my music while his hand was in there.” (08:27–09:01)

• On revealing insecurities:
  “A guy who says, ‘look at me, I'm toothless,’ gives an air of confidence and like this...big, big toothless energy.” – Alice in Wonderland (48:27–48:38)

• On miscarriage in the public eye:
  “I didn't want to have to explain myself to anyone…and to this day, people made TikToks about me cancelling this show…I was having a, I was losing a baby, and I had to…” – Alison (57:41–58:11)

• On artist persistence:
  “Ten years...When I started doing well, it was like, ‘you’re seeing the tip of the iceberg.’ You don’t know how many times people have told me, ‘No, you can’t sing, we don’t like her music.’ And I was like, okay…” (27:01–29:09)

• On bombing:
  “Like, I had a couple months ago. I went up there and it was all new stuff, like just hold strong, and it was just...Everything was failing, like worse than the last...And I was able to dig myself out in a crazy way, but I just, how do you—?” – Ally (36:22–36:42)

• On PLUR and vulnerability:
  “I was on Friendship [rave cruise]...The moment I stepped foot aboard ship, I was like, I love this. I love these people. PLUR vibes. It was everything.” – DJ Tiny Pussy (49:08–49:20)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Pregnancy & Touring Stories: 01:27–17:01
• Birth Trauma & Medical Mishaps: 07:32–16:00
• DJing, Gender Bias & Artistry: 17:01–22:59
• Comedy & Pressing Play: 23:15–24:52
• Turning Around a “Bomb”: 24:53–27:01
• Long Path to Success: 27:01–29:10
• AI, Realness & Therapy: 29:19–34:54
• Toothless Dating Dilemma: 42:29–53:01
• Rave Cruise & “Hatfishing”: 49:01–51:15
• Pregnancy Loss & Public Scrutiny: 56:07–59:44

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a masterclass in honest, fearless conversation, perfectly mixing irreverent humor with deeply personal disclosures. If you want a look inside the world of women in entertainment—where trauma and laughter often go hand-in-hand—and real talk about everything from rave culture to AI to big toothless energy, this one’s for you.

Transcript

[Kalila]

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[Ally Makofsky]

Are you someone that has like easy pregnancies?

[Alice in Wonderland]

We were just talking about.

[Ally Makofsky]

Is she.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Oh, it looks like.

[Esther]

What do you mean? Well, okay. My journey to being pregnant was not easy. So I had four miscarriages. Oh, yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

So sorry.

[Esther]

And I had to do ivf. I couldn't really get pregnant naturally, so in that way, kind of not easy. But I did never get sick with either of my pregnancies.

[Alice in Wonderland]

That's like the biggest flex ever.

[Esther]

I was touring the whole time, both times.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Whoa.

[Esther]

Yeah. Last pregnancy I was like at Coachella, eight months pregnant, playing headlined main stage edc. Nine months.

[Ally Makofsky]

Why do people have to get so sick when they're pregnant? There's no reason for it because there are some people who get no sickness. It's not necessary.

[Esther]

I completely agree. But I also, I had like two. I don't want to tell you. I had like two weeks of feeling kind of nauseous.

[Alice in Wonderland]

My nausea. Everyone was like, you'll be fine after the first trimester. Lasted 22 weeks.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Whoa.

[Alice in Wonderland]

22. Oh, God. I'm like, you're a liar. I called everyone out of my doctor's office. You're a liar. You're a liar.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

No.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

Shout out to our golden slug, Brandon. Hello, little sluggy Bugg. We are so excited, and we're getting into the rave culture for this episode and we have an exciting giveaway. If you join the Patreon and answer the question in the prompt, you will automatically be entered to win this little pair of our handmade little rave cat ears. And we can't wait for you to join us over on the Patreon. We've got a lot of fun stuff going on. I am so excited because I am officially going on tour and it is starting so soon. We're right around the corner for first. September 12th and 13th, I'm going to be in Madison, Wisconsin, for the first time ever. I had to reschedule last time and was never able to do it. I cannot wait. These shows are going to be so much fun. Madison, Wisconsin. And then next I'll be in Portland at the Aladdin Theater. I'm going to be in Seattle at the Neptune. Olympia, Washington, Philly, New York City, Boston. I'm hitting all the best cities this leg of this tour, so please get tickets. Come see me. It's going to be so much fun. We'll hang. I have all this new material that I've been working on. I can't wait to share it. Oh, and you can get tickets@prettylittlebaby tour.com or at the link below. I cannot wait to see you guys.

[Alice in Wonderland]

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[Alice in Wonderland]

Should we do a proper intro?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh, wait, no. Will you?

[Alice in Wonderland]

Will you? Ali, would you?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah. Welcome to Trash Tuesday. I'm Ally Makofsky, joined by my favorite hosts of Trash Tuesday, Kalila and Esther. Today's spot special special guest is Alice in Wonderland.

[Esther]

Hi. I don't know why I'm clapping for myself. We want to clap for ourselves at some point, right?

[Ally Makofsky]

Is your hair inspired by Christina Aguilera?

[Esther]

Yeah. Yes.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

No.

[Esther]

But now it is.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Okay.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

It's so cool.

[Esther]

Okay. I'M going to say, yeah. I mean, it wasn't. But now I'm like, now I'm kind of going to roll with it.

[Ally Makofsky]

It's like 90s Christina. A little bit.

[Esther]

I love it. Honestly, it was more just like, I didn't want to put so much hair dye on my roots while I was pregnant. No one knew I was pregnant, so I just dyed the ends.

[Ally Makofsky]

There's so many rules when you're pregnant.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

It's like, you can't eat a jersey. Mike let me live.

[Esther]

I. I did go to Japan, you.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Know, I did, too.

[Esther]

And I was like, you're not supposed.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

To go to Japan. No.

[Esther]

Well, then, yeah, that's. And I was just like, oh, I guess I'll see in front of me.

[Alice in Wonderland]

You got to have that otoro. You got to have that buttery. That buttery part of the tun. There's chutoro, which is medium fatty, and there's otoro, which is really fatty. And when you go to Japan and you're pregnant, you got to eat it.

[Esther]

Yeah, I totally didn't. I did. I don't know. I don't want.

[Ally Makofsky]

I had sushi during my pregnancy.

[Esther]

Oh, you did?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

Because my doctors even said it. It's fine. They're like, just don't get it at the gas station.

[Esther]

Oh. I've been doing, like, vegetarian and vegan sushi at the moment because I've been craving sushi, and that makes me. I'm just going to do it. I was really strict with my first pregnancy. I didn't do anything, and now I'm just, like, mayonnaise.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Wait, we're not mayonnaise.

[Esther]

Apparently, you're not supposed to have mayonnaise.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

See, I told you guys. Too many rules.

[Alice in Wonderland]

There are too many rules.

[Esther]

I don't know.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Can't vape. Come on. I'm never getting pregnant.

[Ally Makofsky]

Although I feel like I hear of so many people that smoke weed when they're pregnant.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah. Which is to me, I. Not to judge anyone, but. Sounds insane.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

My mom smoked cigarettes while she was pregnant with me. She denies it, but we have witnesses, and I think I turned out pretty good.

[Esther]

Maybe that's a new thing. People should take up smoking just a little bit.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I don't think you should be, like, a pack a day while you're pregnant, but maybe like, a night cig. Imagine that would be so sexy. Like having a little belly and just being like, long day.

[Esther]

Like a whiskey.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yes.

[Esther]

Yeah, I wish.

[Ally Makofsky]

Can I just comment upon your looks today?

[Alice in Wonderland]

Oh, my God. I'm still breastfeeding. So the tits are glorious.

[Ally Makofsky]

I didn't know. I forgot that you're hot. I fully forgot earlier.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Two days after I gave birth, half of my face got paralyzed.

[Esther]

Wait, what? This is like. You know, there's like that thing on TikTok, the girl with the list.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah, yeah, that's like.

[Esther]

That's top of. Wait, what?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

But you said your arm or your.

[Esther]

Hand was all over the place. I almost died. I was in. I was in emergency for bitch. Yeah. I still have scars all up my arm.

[Alice in Wonderland]

What happened there?

[Esther]

So I was induced at 39 weeks, and I literally walked in feeling completely fine. I'm so sorry. I had a really good pregnancy, and I was just like, I don't think he's ready.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Know.

[Ally Makofsky]

I just felt like it.

[Esther]

And, yeah, I was. I was in. They were inducing me with, like, the pitocin, and my body wasn't responding, but they thought it was, so they were like, are you feeling the contractions? Because it. We think you're contracting. And I was like, no, I feel fucking fine. And so it had cut to two days. They put the balloon up there.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I don't hate the balloon.

[Esther]

That's like medieval torture. I've never felt anything worse in my fucking life. Epidural didn't work on me five times. Five times. So I was just like. I've actually never told this story. It's actually insane. Also, shout out to the guy who put his hand up my vagina and broke my water and told me that he loves my music while his hand was in there. But he's. He was amazing afterwards because I. He came to help me with the baby, so I appreciate. But at the time, I was like, well, if there's, like, any time I want anyone to see my vagina, it's not now.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Right.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

It's also so messed up to use a balloon for something other than a party, you know? Party? Yeah.

[Esther]

It was not a party.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

No.

[Esther]

And so I was feeling everything. And then by the third day, they realized that the pitocin never worked.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Oh, Lord.

[Esther]

And they were trying to. Like, I was in all these different positions and, like, he didn't want to cut. Like, he was just chilling in there. He was like, nah, I'm good. And then because they'd broken my water, it starts to get dangerous, so we had to just. I called my dad and I was like, I don't know what to do. And he's just like, you have to get a C section. Like. And then my doctor came in. She's like, oh, your mom had a Hip replacement. Because if you. Oh, you should never have done a natural birth. And I'm like, wait, what?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

What?

[Esther]

No one told me. No one decided to tell me this, so I guess he would never have come through. So cut to the C section. I don't know why I'm laughing about this.

[Ally Makofsky]

We laugh.

[Alice in Wonderland]

What's the thing about Trump?

[Esther]

It's like the only. I either write songs or laugh about trauma.

[Alice in Wonderland]

If you don't laugh about it, you'll cry.

[Esther]

No, I say that.

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh, this is hilarious.

[Esther]

Yeah, it's the funniest thing ever. Right? So I'm in there and, you know, I don't know if anyone else had a C section.

[Ally Makofsky]

No.

[Esther]

But they, like, have you kind of, like, locked to the table. And I was still feeling everything, by the way, and no one was listening to me. And so they start numbing me with lidocaine instead of that epidural. I'm also on, like, a bunch of fentanyl. So this is, like, very weird. Like, acid trippy for me right now. And so I see the anesthesiologist, and she goes, like, it literally looked like a fisheye. It looked like a fish eye, like from a movie. And she's like, do you feel this stabbing your stomach right now? And it was like, slow motion down. And I just went, ah. And crawled off the table with my feet still stuck to the table. And they all had to hold me down. And the next thing I know is, like, there's a gas mask going over me, but I was literally clawing off.

[Alice in Wonderland]

The table, running away from the pain.

[Esther]

And, like, they're holding me down because I was like, fight off. I guess I'm fight not or whatever. Then apparently, I don't even remember this. My husband also was just like, what the fuck is happening? They kick him out. He's in his scrubs in, like, the hole. Just like, is my wife dying? Like, what's going on? And then he comes back in and they pull him aside. They go, we're just wondering, does she take hard drugs like meth or heroin or anything? You know, you can tell us, because she's reacting really weirdly to anesthesia. And she just woke up trying to fight everyone. And apparently I woke up trying to, like, punch everyone and, like, full on fight them.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I feel like at that point, it's warranted.

[Esther]

I don't know. I don't remember any of it.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Are you a natural redhead?

[Esther]

Well, okay, so why do you ask? I keep getting asked that because every time I've been under anesthesia, because I mean, with ivf, you just. They have to put you out a lot for some reason, to get eggs and shit every time. It's been really hard to put me to rest.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Redheads don't react to anesthesia properly.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

They have a harder time.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

As if they need any more issues.

[Esther]

By the way, this is before I almost died. I haven't even got to the worst part.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Is this in Australia?

[Esther]

No.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Oh. I was gonna say, I'm not having any babies in Australia.

[Ally Makofsky]

Are you a redhead?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

No.

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh, then why is.

[Esther]

No, that's true, though. They ask me every time, are you redhead?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I also was gonna say, well, I mean, I know nothing about anything, and I have no children and have never given birth, so God bless all of you. And I love women, but I feel like people always have bad stories when they get induced. I feel like the baby, for the most part, I feel like sometimes doctors are pushing this induction. They're like, I have a vacation coming up. So let's just.

[Esther]

They say it's because when you do IVF and you're, you know, not 25.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

You.

[Esther]

Your placenta goes a little bit weird at the end.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah.

[Esther]

I don't know.

[Ally Makofsky]

I was induced to, and I think it's like, higher maternal age.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Higher maternal age. And there's this study, it's based on the Arrive study, which basically shows that there is a higher chance for stillbirth when you have advanced maternal age and going past. Past term.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm talking out of my ass, but.

[Ally Makofsky]

No, no, but you're not.

[Alice in Wonderland]

But you're not wrong. There is a very.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

People have weird, freaky stu. They get induced.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, you're not wrong at all.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

And I'm listening to a lot of birthing stories. My TikTok algorithm is weird.

[Esther]

Maybe it's a sign for you never to do it.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah, maybe.

[Esther]

But yeah, no, afterwards, they wheeled me out and I stood up and, like, the amount of it was like, that times three. Water, but red.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Hemorrhage.

[Esther]

Hemorrhage. But I go to the nurse, is this normal? She's like, yeah, you had a C section, like, get over it type virus.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Where was this place? I want to fight.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I don't wanna.

[Esther]

It was in la. It was in la at a nice place, Cedars. She just dismissed me. And then, actually, two amazing nurses came to check on me in the middle of the night, and I was asleep, and my heart rate went up to 130, which is like jogging heart rate. I've never jogged, so I don't know, and my blood. Blood pressure started going down. And I told my husband, like, go home because you need to be with the baby. Like. And he's just like, I don't know what to do with the baby. And I held one. I was like, me either. They wake me up and they go, hey, are you okay? And I, like, I think one of them was a fan. So I wanted to be, like, kind of chill. And I was like, oh, yeah, no, totally fine. I just can't feel my legs. And they're like, what? They find out I've hemorrhaged. I've lost two thirds of my blood.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Oh, my God.

[Esther]

Rushed me into emergency. I had. My uterus had gone floppy. I don't know what the fuck that means. And then I guess while I was unconscious, they burnt all my veins trying to do the transfusion.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah.

[Esther]

And then for, like, three months, I couldn't move my arm or, like, properly hold my kid. So it was, like, horrible.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Oh, my God. I don't know.

[Esther]

Yeah, we laugh. We laugh. And then I guess I decided to do it again, of course.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

But I think, yeah, I think it'll be so smooth and great this time.

[Ally Makofsky]

Well, because now you know the plan.

[Esther]

Yeah, now. Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

That's going to make a world of.

[Esther]

Oh, my God. I, I just, you know, I'd love to. I'd love to be one of those women that, like, sit in a bath at home and it's, like, easy and, like, amazing, but it just will never be me.

[Alice in Wonderland]

It'll never be me.

[Esther]

I just, like, give me the drugs, cut me open, make it like a nail appointment.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah.

[Esther]

You know, in and out.

[Alice in Wonderland]

You know, Ali often talks about her tiny pussy.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Tiny, tiny pussy. But before I g. Birth, I, I, My baby was tracking large, and they were like, this could possibly be over £10. In which case, we would have to induce you at 39 weeks, because so and so. And I'm like, oh, my God, I probably have a tiny pussy. And they probably think this baby's not. And then my last exam, you know, the last week before, and I'm like, do you think I can do this naturally? He's like, oh, yeah. Runway is good. Runway is ready and good. He's like, you got the hips, you got the body. I'm like, okay, I don't have a tiny pussy.

[Esther]

But here's the thing.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Medically confirmed.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Medically confirmed.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

But here's the thing about tiny pussy. A tiny pussy can expand. It has the capability of getting but its resting state, so small. And I got this One says tiny pussy.

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh my God.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

And I'd also like to say, no one's really said this to me. It's kind of self appointed. Just, you don't know me. This is a title I've given myself. I'm manifesting.

[Esther]

No, I love it. I think that should be a DJ name.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Okay.

[Esther]

You've got the cat ears too.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah, yeah. DJ Tiny Pussy.

[Esther]

I would go watch you play.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

That would be fun. I'll have to learn how to dj, but I mean, then we're ready to go.

[Esther]

I'll make you a little pre mix.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yes.

[Esther]

You know all these songs about vaginas?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yes, yes. Oh my God, that's.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Can you share your theories about DJs?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Okay.

[Ally Makofsky]

I think that DJs like, get a lot of hate in the comedy world.

[Esther]

Oh, no, because. No, because.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Male dj.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah.

[Esther]

Okay. Yeah, well, that's valid.

[Ally Makofsky]

Like, because people are like, what do you do? You're just like pressing play. Like, there's that, like, whatever. And then I have this theory that that only exists because every single person in the world wishes that they were a dj. Like, it's like this fantasy where everyone loves their taste in music and their style in music and they want to be the ones who, like, are in control of what's being played. So, like, I think DJs get hated on because we all secretly wish to be them.

[Esther]

I think a lot of male DJs do just press play, though.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Shot fire.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Would you say that that would never pass for a female dj? Like, you actually have to be. There has to be merit behind it?

[Esther]

I don't know. I've been DJing for like a billion years before it was, you know, before EDM even was a term, actually. And so, you know, the equipment I was on and the type of music I was DJing, I had to be technical. When you're playing a festival, you can see how someone else has set up their decks before you. And I don't use quantize, I don't use sync quantize. And sync means it keeps the track completely in time and it will sync with the other track pressing play, basically. And I judge, I judge. I'm like, ooh, I will never forget. And so now whenever I see that DJ that I know did that, I'm.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Like, oh, I want names so badly because I don't know any of it. I'm always like, okay, you guys, some are really good.

[Esther]

Like, I'll. I'll play with Cascade. And, and, And I love watching him dj, you know, like, that's a delight for me. Yeah. But then, you know, sometimes I'm just like, bruh, it's not that hard.

[Alice in Wonderland]

So is it like the equivalent of like auto tune basically for lip syncing?

[Esther]

I don't know. I like auto tune, so I'm like, I like, I love the sound of auto tune, so I can't hate on that. We all love Charlie and she uses it a lot and I think she, it's like the equivalent of not playing an instrument. Like, for me, like, if you're DJing, there's so many cool things you can do with the decks. Like I, I use the cue button a lot. I scratch, I do a lot of things. My hands are very busy up there. I have a gopro on them and. And for me it's just like an instrument. And that's why I got into DJing, because I was like, oh, you're telling me you can take this vocal and this beat and put them together and make this whole new vibe and you can do it, you know, like live? That's fucking cool. And I, I'm a cellist originally, so.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I was just like, oh, so cool.

[Ally Makofsky]

I don't know if that's to be classically trained.

[Alice in Wonderland]

To be classically trained. No, it is cool.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

It's cool. It's cool to like look like you and be like, yeah, I played.

[Esther]

I didn't always look like this.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I wouldn't do.

[Esther]

Christina Aguilera informed you.

[Alice in Wonderland]

This is how I feel about all.

[Ally Makofsky]

Like, all art forms. Like in dance, I think if you want to be an amazing music video hip hop dancer, you should have a ballet background. I think that if you want to be an amazing director in film, you should like have been a camera op for several years. I think you want that formal classical training.

[Esther]

I agree. Actually, even a chef, I don't have.

[Alice in Wonderland]

To be a busboy. And work your way up the kitchen.

[Esther]

There's actually something really beautiful to me, this is now skipping to producing, which is a very different skill to DJing. But I know a lot of producers who are not classically trained and because they don't think like that and they don't have that, that like theory, they have this intuition that is so amazing. So I can't, like, I can't really. I, I just, I'm like, if you, if you've got it, you've got it.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah.

[Esther]

You know, but I think with me, I've always also just performed. I had to play cello in like, you know, when you play cello, it's dead quiet. Like no one's cheering and it's just like you can hear a pin drop and you're just like, oh, fuck. Like, don't this note up. Like, which one's cello? It's like the big one between your legs. Yeah. The opposite of a tiny pussy.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Oh, I love that. Wow.

[Esther]

Yeah, it's just. I don't know, I think, like. But there are, you know, look, there's a lot of people. It's funny. I think women in this industry get a lot of criticism and skepticism when I know for a fact it ain't us.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Right.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I feel like it's probably similar to comedy in some ways, where I feel like you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. I feel like as a woman, you probably, like, in the deejay community, you probably have to, like, work harder to, like, own your spot there and, like, be taken seriously. But no matter how hard you work, people will accuse you of, like, you know, just press and play or whatever.

[Ally Makofsky]

Or just like, you're pretty and that's why.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Did you. Did either of you have to dress down or felt like you have to absolutely not look hot to.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

It was horrible.

[Ally Makofsky]

But I did. I purposefully did. And I remember, like, when I first started out, there was this female comedian who had been doing it a while, and she was like, really, like, hot and in crop tops. And, like, people were like, that's, like, so bad. And in my head I'm like, I couldn't. I will never do that. And then now it's like, that would be so cool. I wish I was doing that.

[Esther]

So cool.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I have a photo from, like, my first ever open mic and I'm wearing, like, no makeup. My hair's in this, like, ugly little. Just ponytail. I'm wearing a flannel and a zip up hoodie because I'm like, this is comedy uniform. And then, yeah, I just. I looked horrible.

[Esther]

Is. Is this scary doing stand up?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

No.

[Esther]

No.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

There's a scary dj.

[Esther]

No, but, like, I'm not. I feel like it's so. I. I love watching setup. So I'm just like, how. I think it's like, I feel thick skin, right? No.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

No.

[Esther]

I don't know.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I don't know. I don't feel like my skin is that thick.

[Esther]

Do male comedians just press play in their own way?

[Alice in Wonderland]

Hmm. Interesting question.

[Ally Makofsky]

That's a really good question. Like, what is the comedy equivalent of pressing play?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

And it's like, I guess, like, hacky, like, stealing jokes.

[Esther]

Is that a thing?

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah, maybe. Or like, low hanging Fruit. Yeah. Or like.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Or just like generic.

[Ally Makofsky]

Like maybe doing like not trying new things ever. And not like being in the moment. That to me was what it would be. Which is like. I think everyone is guilty of that. This at times, depending on like what you're going through or whatever, but like just going through the emotions and like reciting the material where. As opposed to like feeling it and discovering. But that's like sometimes like you're just off and that happens, I think.

[Esther]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

But there are people that. Words. That's all it is.

[Esther]

So. Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

I think to me that I can't.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Picture anyone who's like super successful who is like pressing play.

[Esther]

I think you can feel it though. Like the audience can feel it. And I think it's the same with music. People can feel it. I'm such a fan of live music and I can feel when someone's not there. Yeah. And I just zone out. I don't know. It's like a weird thing.

[Ally Makofsky]

Are you kidding? Like, for me, I think of Britney Las Vegas. Like, that was my first experience of. I know, but it is horrible. But that was the first experience where I was like, what is going? Like, what's happening?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Wait, what did I miss? Who? What is.

[Ally Makofsky]

When Britney Spears had her Vegas residency and I was like, everyone was so excited and I went.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I feel like Brittany Las Vegas was like a performer.

[Esther]

Like Brittany Las Vegas, that's her DJ name.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

But it was just. Yeah, it was a really like, hard experience for me.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah.

[Alice in Wonderland]

And as a dj, is it. Is it a thing to bomb a set?

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh, good question.

[Esther]

Yeah. But I think if you're a good performer, you know how to turn it around. I think I've been playing so many so long and so many shows. I don't even know how many shows. Thousands at this point. If you know how to work with a crowd, you can always turn it around.

[Ally Makofsky]

I agree.

[Esther]

So I stand up.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah.

[Esther]

I kind of. I'm like, you know, I remember this show I played in Mexico and It was like 70,000 people and my mixer blew. And the mixer blew and the mic blew. Like everything blew. So I couldn't explain myself. I didn't speak Spanish. So I was like.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

You start doing the Ashley Simpson.

[Esther]

But then I just like started cl. Like, you just have to kind of own it. Yeah. Or like if you up a mix, you just go, haha. Like, at least you know it's live. Everyone. Like, I think you can turn it around. The only time where it's hard is when it. When an Audience has decided they don't like you before you get on. But you can also turn that around because I notice when I see other. Again, I'm such a lover of music. When I see an artist where they get angry at a crowd when they're not reacting, the negativity becomes contagious. And more and more people like, well, fuck you. We're not gonna fucking move.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

That happens in comedy.

[Esther]

Really?

[Alice in Wonderland]

I see that a lot with comics where they just go out through the crowd, and it's so embarrassing.

[Esther]

And then what you do is, you know, like, at least I'm being. You know, there's at least one person in that crowd who's traveled eight hours to see you or, like, has listened to your music forever. So you focus on that.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah.

[Esther]

And you focus on that person, and then that becomes contagious. And then, like, the people next to them, like, when you're. Oh, my God, like, you shout out that person in the front that knows all the words like, I love you. And then, like, that. And then the people around them like, yo, this crowd's getting kind of crazy right now. And then, like, everyone's like, we're crazy. Listen. Even if one person turn turns up to my show, like, I'm grateful.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah.

[Esther]

Because, like, there was. There was so many years where no one gave a shit.

[Alice in Wonderland]

How long before you actually felt like, oh, like, 10 years.

[Esther]

Wow, 10 years.

[Alice in Wonderland]

It's like comedy now.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah.

[Esther]

Yeah. When I started doing well, which was around 2015, it was like, oh, you're seeing the tip of the iceberg. You don't know how many times people have told me, no. You don't know how many times people told me, like, oh, you can't sing. We don't like her music. Her music's not good. And I was like, okay, like. And my manager, who's sitting right there, he's been my best friend forever. Even before I started doing this, he was my best friend. And so he. There were times where I just, like, wanted to give up. And, I mean, I still feel that way. Like, I think, like, when you're an artist or, like, anything in the arts or creative, you're putting. If you're really about it, it's, like, legit. And that's your soul, and you don't know how else to be. And so when it's not getting communicated correctly or translating or people are caring, it kind of, like, fucking sucks. And it's a bit of, like, an ego death thing. I don't know. And I was getting teased, like, back in the local scene and stuff. Because I wasn't playing the cool. Whatever was cool back then. I think it was, wasn't my genre. And then it just clicked one day for people because I kept going and I showed up every day. Like literally every day I just showed up and I, I was like, okay, well I'm doing this for me now. And every day I would write, I would, you know, I was DJing like seven nights a week. He was booking me at his. He used to run all these like underground clubs in Sydney. You know, it's, it, it's. It fucking sucks. Like, it's hard being a creative. I think especially now everything's like so quick and there's so much stuff that is distracting, so it's hard to even poke through that. And I think, thank God, you know, my stuff even slightly took off before it really like the Internet really went intense because yeah, everyone, everyone's at the show still. And like, if you are watching. Thank you. Like, for real, every show I play, I'm like, you know.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah.

[Esther]

Because I'm like, oh, people are singing these songs still and they're seeing the old songs, they're singing the new songs and like, I don't know. But you know, last night I wanted to give up. You just have, you know, you have to rotate through.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I feel, I feel like that's, that's so normal and relatable.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah, anything creative, I feel like it's so, like it can be so like self centered. Not even in like a on purpose way. Like you have to think about yourself so much and it can become such a loop and a spiral where it's like, oh my God, I need to like talk about something else or think about something else.

[Esther]

Yeah, we're gonna be okay.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

What is that?

[Ally Makofsky]

Are we gonna be okay?

[Esther]

Yeah, we will.

[Ally Makofsky]

I'm like worried by the way.

[Esther]

I'm like a huge fan of everyone here. Like, I'm playing it cool right now.

[Ally Makofsky]

But like, no, we love you, but I'm just like, no, the whole like how the Internet is now and like ruining it for creatives. Like, I'm lowkey. A little worried about that.

[Esther]

I think everything comes in waves. So I'm hoping like my kid is like in 10 years, like, oh, it's so lame to have social media. Like, I just hope that happens.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah, I like what you said about doing crowd work and why initially you thought comedians posting crowd work was cringe, but then you were like, you know what? I think that everyone is sort of like thirsting for a real moment. In real time. And I. I think that's probably what's going to happen. Hopefully. I don't know, you know, and with just. With AI and everything, I think that people are gonna want to. Are gonna start thirsting for real things again. Yeah, I hope so.

[Esther]

I hope. But my friend just fired a therapist and went to chat GPT. Like, that's a real. And I was like, oh, no, honestly, chat is. I haven't got it. My husband uses it, like, to like, like, research things if he doesn't know about it. Our dog was. I don't talk about it, but he was like, the vet wasn't giving him any answers, and he went to chat GPT and he actually found out what was wrong with her and then went back to the vet. And he was right.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Wow.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Chat is pretty good about, like, autoimmune diseases.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I don't use it often. I feel like my sisters are like, chat GPT anything and everything. And I'm like, you can just use Google.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, it's the same thing, but it's not.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

It's not like.

[Esther]

But they'll be like, what time?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

What. When is daylight savings time? And I'm like, you can Google that. You don't need GPT for that. But, like, last night I went on a tear or two nights ago, I went on a tear and I was like. I sent them photos of my face and I was like, tell me everything. I should change, what makeup I should wait, what shade I should get it in. And it gave me a full breakdown. I ordered a bunch of new makeup from Sephora. It told me where to put. Replace it for my face.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Did it give you your colors?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

It gave me my colors. What did it.

[Esther]

What did it say?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Well, first of all, I'm a soft summer, so come correct.

[Alice in Wonderland]

And.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

And it said. I mean, it said so much. It said for my blush. I mean, this is not a good example because I'm. I don't know what I was doing today, but it said blush high placement for me to open up my face.

[Alice in Wonderland]

You don't have the girlfriend blush, right?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah. What?

[Alice in Wonderland]

There's two or is. I don't know if it's called girlfriend, but you can either put the blush lower or the blush higher.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I've tried all types of ways. And to be honest, I don't want to toot my own horn. I kind of like blush anywhere. I like just a little bit of color in my cheeks.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I like the sunburn blush that goes.

[Ally Makofsky]

That's straight across.

[Esther]

That's what I did today.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I Love you. It's my favorite.

[Esther]

It's. I don't.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I feel so beach.

[Esther]

It's crazy that it just like told you to tell you products like it told me products.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I think.

[Alice in Wonderland]

What, what sets?

[Esther]

GPT gbt.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I don't know because it wasn't like it was all one brand.

[Esther]

Who was it?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

It. One of them was Nars Foundation. Rare Beauty Tinted. Tinted like moisturizer, but also Rare Beauty Blush in the color Hope. I have it.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I have hope.

[Esther]

Yeah, but I don't really use it. Sorry. Okay.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Well, Ally, when you were asking Chat GPT these questions, were they being kind to you?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

They were so kind. Chat GPT loves.

[Esther]

Do they like talk like a person?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah, they're like, hey, your face looks awesome as it is, but you want to just do a few things.

[Alice in Wonderland]

That's the difference. That's. Over the weekend, my baby had a fever, but no other symptoms. So I turned to Chat and Chat was just like, oh, you must be really frustrated and really worried as a, as a first time mom, like everything.

[Esther]

This sounds like a therapist.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah, that's why it's not Google, because it gives you a hug while giving you answers.

[Esther]

That movie, her or whatever. Like, it's like that is that sad.

[Garth]

Encyclopedia with the person. Personality.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah.

[Esther]

Can you like change the personality or does it. Just do it?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I think you could probably give it some notes. Yeah. I imagine if you're like, be tough on me.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Honestly, I don't know. Notes. If it does. That's. It's just empathy, right?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah, that's all it is.

[Ally Makofsky]

You guys sound pathetic.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I know. We are.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

No, but I agree. I think to your point, it's like someone I know use Chat GBT to get someone a birthday poem. Like write a poem for this person's birthday. And I'm like, do you not have 10 minutes of your day to write this poem yourself?

[Esther]

Like, was the poem good?

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah. But I'm like, it would have felt better if it was like from the person or like, especially as a comedian or like someone in a creative field. I'm like, pay someone to write a poem. Like, there's, there's people, there's poets out there. Yeah. I'm sure I've met a few who are down on their luck, especially right now.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I feel that's, that's my whole. Esther hates this, but I thought at one point in my life that I was going to live as a poet.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I could picture that.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Thank you.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah, I'm glad you didn't. I think people should believe in themselves. A little bit more and dream bigger.

[Alice in Wonderland]

But that's what Bobby. When I first got with my ex.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, I was like, yeah.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I was like, really being sincere. I was like, I really think I'm going to chase poetry. He was like, that's not real. That can't be real.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah.

[Alice in Wonderland]

And he just shut it down. And I never, I never asked again.

[Ally Makofsky]

If you were a poet in that outfit, I'd be down.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Thank you.

[Esther]

But is there any, like, famous poets right now?

[Alice in Wonderland]

There's a couple. You know, they're Instagram poets. You know what I mean? Where they have the.

[Esther]

What's the Instagram poet where you.

[Alice in Wonderland]

They have like little.

[Esther]

Is it like spoken word or like just.

[Alice in Wonderland]

It's like spoken word. Yeah.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

No, like front facing videos. Doing poetry.

[Esther]

That's a bit too, like, I don't know, too vulnerable. No, it's cringe.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah. I want to read it.

[Esther]

I don't like it.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear you talk slow and take long pauses. Something about this, even though that's how.

[Ally Makofsky]

I talk, something about this is getting me going.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I know. I can see it in your face. I keep looking over at you and.

[Ally Makofsky]

You'Re like, I want to do like a cringe poem video.

[Esther]

Can you do it right now? Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

Look at that. I need time and I need to rehearse. I need to think about it. But I think I, like, I Like we're talking about bombing. I'm like, ugh, I want to bomb. I fucking love it.

[Esther]

I think that's like a 80, 20 chance of bombing.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, I just, I really. I don't know. Like, I had a. Like a couple months ago. I went up there and I was like, it's all new stuff. Like, just hold strong. And it was just. Everything was failing, like, worse than the last. It was so bad. And I was just like. And I. I was able to dig myself out, like, in a crazy way. But I just like, how do you.

[Esther]

How do you do it?

[Ally Makofsky]

It's always something different. But that time, what was so special to me was like I started hiding behind the curtain and then acted like I was calling my dad to come pick me up. I was like, something's going. Something bad is happening. I need you to come get me. And like, I won them back. And I was like, that was the most fun I've had on stage in like 400 years. Like, it was so good. Like, I don't know, I just, I like that. Cause it forces me to do something weird that's great.

[Esther]

I'm gonna do that when I bomb a show.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Next.

[Alice in Wonderland]

You guys, two things.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Thanks.

[Alice in Wonderland]

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[Alice in Wonderland]

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[Ally Makofsky]

Shout out to our kitty. Ears that me and Allie are wearing are from Brad Birth blossoms, which is 100% woman owned.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

They're all handmade, which I feel like rave culture. They're very crafty.

[Alice in Wonderland]

The faux fur coat I'm wearing is from spirit hoods. And 10% of their net profits support endangered animal conservation.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

All cute people are obsessed with spirit Hoods. Yeah, they're like all over.

[Alice in Wonderland]

And Allie's amazing top.

[Kalila]

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[Alice in Wonderland]

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[DJ Tiny Pussy]

My shirt that I'm wearing from Tasteful Girls is the brat mode top because I wanted to do a little Charlie vibe. Plus it's like just a little. It's like a. It's like a peekaboo of cleavage, which is nice. It's not too much. You could go to church in this.

[Kalila]

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[Alice in Wonderland]

You guys, I have a personal dilemma that I need help with. I recently set up two friends.

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh God.

[Esther]

Wait, you set up two friends?

[Alice in Wonderland]

Two friends. They're chatting. It's starting to become a good morning, good night situation. Oh, but it's a long distance thing. They haven't met yet.

[Esther]

Where are they?

[Alice in Wonderland]

One in Asia and one here.

[Esther]

That's long.

[Alice in Wonderland]

They're gonna meet probably soon. I know something about her that I feel as though it's only up to her to share, but I don't know when she should share it. And it's that she has false teeth. She has full dentures, top and bottom. Where she's from, there wasn't a lot of fluoridated water. And it's sort of commonplace for people to have dentures to be like, you know, we can't afford implants. Just, you know, at a young age of like 20. She had false teeth. She's had false teeth. When do you think is the correct time to break it to the guy.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

For you to break it to him?

[Alice in Wonderland]

No, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never gonna say anything.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Okay.

[Esther]

Honestly, in my head this is kind of funny, but like, if she's about to go down on him, it would be really funny to take him out.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

So they come complain. Still getting a blowback. Exactly. It's like surprised, but also like, he's gonna be thrilled. Yeah, confused and thrilled.

[Esther]

Like I think that that would be like, like what's the girl version of dickmatizing?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

We just. It's all gums.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I do think it's a good idea to deliver bad news when there's a full blown boner involved. Cuz they cannot turn anything down. They're so stupid. The blood's all left here and down there.

[Esther]

Probably forget, right? But she'll be like, I told you. Oh my God, by the way, it's just funny because we're like eating a banana right now. But if I had no teeth, this banana would be kind of fine.

[Ally Makofsky]

It doesn't feel like that big of a secret to Me, it doesn't. Cause it's not like, hurting anyone.

[Esther]

Goth, what would you do? I'm just asking him. Cause he dates.

[Ally Makofsky]

Oh, you asked him? I thought I was. Sorry.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I thought it was a moment. Garth, suppose you like everything about me. We're really hitting it off. I could potentially be the love of your life. We're about three months into talking. We're gonna meet for the first time pretty soon. The vibes are high.

[Esther]

Jump in.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah. Okay.

[Esther]

Can everyone compliment his new glasses? Because I've been laughing at him about it.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Wow.

[Esther]

He's like, what do you think? And I was like, you. You look like that guy. And he's like, Jeffrey Dahmer. And I'm like, yeah.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Okay. Do you remember the scenario I just painted from.

[Ally Makofsky]

From walking over there to here. Do you still remember?

[Alice in Wonderland]

Okay, so we're locked in. In love, Right? We're about to meet. We're probably about to get pretty nasty. At what point should I tell you I have false teeth and would it change your mind about me?

[Garth]

Your suggestion is fine. And I would have no problem. And I think no teeth. Teeth on a blowjob is. Sounds like a great idea.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Okay.

[Garth]

And I think I'd be fine with it at that point. I do think afterwards, then questions would.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Come in, I don't think, because don't guys get post nut clarity or whatever? Like, you start having all these.

[Garth]

Were you, like a meth head? Like, why do you.

[Alice in Wonderland]

No, it's. It wouldn't be a question of why didn't you tell me sooner?

[Garth]

It would be like, why do you need false.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Okay, then you would ask. You'd ask me and hear my question. My answer would be, we don't have fluoridated water where I grew up. And it. A lot of people here just. Their teeth, like, rot by the time we're, like, 16.

[Garth]

So, like the UK.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah, basically.

[Garth]

That's fine.

[Alice in Wonderland]

It wouldn't change your love.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

No, but also, you're asking an Australian, and I feel like Australians are crazier than most people. Like, Australians will, like, do anything for the plot. I've hooked up with too many Australians in hostels and sheriff hostels.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Never wanted to kill me.

[Esther]

What?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I'll never go back to Melbourne. I'm scared to. I wanted to go back so bad for the food and the coffee and just generally, I loved it so much. But the boy was too scared.

[Esther]

He tried to kill you?

[Alice in Wonderland]

Well, he threatened. There was a real, like, threat.

[Esther]

Oh, yeah.

[Garth]

I think that's a. That's not a strange Thing.

[Ally Makofsky]

Guy, what's your opinion? You're an American man.

[Garth]

Same thing. It would be like a drug related question, but I think at that point it's kind of.

[Esther]

It's too far.

[Garth]

If the feelings are already there, then a little two things not gonna matter.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

No. I feel like guys are way more superficial because, like, I feel like as a woman, like, I've. I've been with a guy with, like, a missing tooth and like a little pop in. And even then, like, I feel like I'm a very forgiving, like, non superficial person. But even with that pop out, I was a little bit, like, scary.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Really? I love toothless men.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I mean, I love this for years.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I love a guy. There is this fighter in the ufc, he goes by the name Durkin. For. For, obviously for interviews. He puts his false teeth back on, but when he fights, it's off. And I think he is so incredibly attractive.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Okay. But there's a difference. Here's the thing. I've slept. I've slept with a guy who had just no tooth up top. And I was into it. I like that. No, just one front out.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Okay.

[Esther]

Was he smiling?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah, he was a happy boy. But the part that freaked me out was the guy who had the fake tooth in and then revealed it popped out. Because now I'm like. I'm like, catfished by a tooth. I'd rather know that there's no tooth there. I'd like to know that information before the reveal.

[Esther]

I feel like he's not gonna really care what Esther.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I feel like.

[Ally Makofsky]

What does it matter?

[Esther]

I just.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I. I wanted. Here's the thing. And I don't think it's just about the. The tooth. I love the truth. I'm a big little sucker for the truth. I love knowing things. I hate being out of the loop. So I would just personally feel like.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I want to know this. I actually think it's deeper than that. I think that a guy who says, look at me, I'm toothless, gives an air of confidence and like this, like, yes, I am.

[Esther]

Is that like BD maybe?

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah, I think so. Like, big, big toothless energy, and it's.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Like a bald man wearing a hat or not wearing a hat. I don't want the reveal. Yeah. Oh, wait. Speaking of raves and. Okay, this is all actually tying together. Sorry. I'm kind of taking over the show today. I feel like I'm really kind of my third time on the show, and I'm really loving it. I was on a rave cruise.

[Esther]

Wait, which one?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I did Stand up comedy on a rave cruise. And I'm not a rave.

[Esther]

What rave cruise?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I was on Friendship. Oh, Destructo's rave cruise. And I was like, oh, God, this is gonna be horrible. Like, I just. I've never really been to raves. I didn't know what to expect. I was being really judgmental.

[Esther]

I get it.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

The moment I stepped foot aboard ship, I was like, I love this. I love these people plur vibes. It was everything. I loved it. And so there I am, hooking up with a wook on the Lido deck.

[Esther]

Do you wanna explain what a wook is?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I mean, I feel like you should explain.

[Esther]

I actually am curious to know what you think.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Here's my impression of a wook. Someone who's, like, usually sweaty. For sure.

[Esther]

Just like a hippie raver.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Hippie raver. Like the big pants. Like the parachute. Big pants. He had some, like, dreads coming down. Like some loose. He was a white man. He had some loose dreads coming down and like, a beanie.

[Alice in Wonderland]

It's sounding worse and worse. Each descriptor.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

You give vibes on board. I mean, you know, I was in love with this Wookman. So we're making out, and then we go back to my room, and he's got these dreads and this beanie and we're making out. He's sweating. He's sweating. So I lift up the beanie. Guess what? No hair on top.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Oh, God.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

No hair on top.

[Esther]

That's so much. That's. No.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

So I'm like, if he were to just embrace that he was hairless on top with some dreads in the back, I would have. I was into the vibe. Vibe. It was the vibe, but the reveal. I'm like, I've been lied to. I don't like being lied to.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Not if the dreads were all the way down to his waist, like a mermaid. That is so unfair to you.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

They weren't that far down. They were. I mean, he was like.

[Esther]

Well, he hatfish, to be fair.

[Alice in Wonderland]

That is, like, kind of a cool, like, Shaolin look. An old, like, shogun look to have half shaved and then the long hair.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah, but I was not expecting that. And I think, like, the same thing, like, the BDE of it all is like, if he just didn't have that, it was hot.

[Esther]

He didn't need the beanie.

[Alice in Wonderland]

That should have already tipped you off.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah, I guess so. I wasn't in my right mind, but.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Did you proceed? Did you finish?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah, of course. We're vibing it just Took me a minute to be like, recalibrate. Yeah, recalibrate.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I hate that.

[Esther]

I hate.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I don't know.

[Esther]

I would have been.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

We're in love.

[Alice in Wonderland]

This is. This happens to me because back to the hips thing, Stella. Not to be a shallow bitch, but on occasion when I've, like, hooked up with a guy mid hookup and I see the silhouette of their body and I see just a little more curvature than I thought that I thought in his clothing, where I'm like, oh, my God, he's got hips. It completely takes me out of it.

[Esther]

Mad hips.

[Alice in Wonderland]

And it's so unfair because it's like they can't do anything about it. But it's my own personal thing of, like, why didn't you tell me you had hips under there?

[Esther]

And we all want, like, just the.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah, give me nothing. Don't compete with me is all I ask.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Well, if a man is gonna have hips, then make him carry the baby. Yes. Make him carry.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I think that's it. It's like, those hips are for nothing. Those useless hips. They won't birth. They won't do anything. Kalila. What if he was walking around strutting his hips like he wasn't hiding, Sashaying. Yeah, that I can. I've. You know, me.

[Esther]

Yeah, no, I know.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I love. Love, like, femme guys. Yeah. I've been with them. Y. If he's owning the fact that he's just a hippie, you know, like, you know, I would be like, okay, cool. I don't care.

[Ally Makofsky]

Curvy.

[Alice in Wonderland]

A curvy man.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

It goes back to the same thing. It's like, you want to know these things up top. So with the tooth, it's like, I. I don't know. For me, I like knowing things.

[Alice in Wonderland]

It's just different for a girl. I think it's different for a girl to pick up the phone and be like, hi, my name is so and so before we proceed, like, I'm toothless.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I think you don't say it like that. You go, so, what do you know? Where is she from?

[Esther]

Asia.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Asia.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I want to be more specific.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Know about, like, Asian culture there. Like, just kind of tiptoe into it. Like, oh, it's so annoying. Like, we have no fluoride in our water, and, like, everyone's teeth are gone.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I think there's only one way to do it. If. If it were me, it would be like, hey, this is, like, huge insecurity of mine.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Alice in Wonderland]

And, like, just be earnest about it.

[Esther]

It.

[Alice in Wonderland]

And. Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

No, here's what you do.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Okay, here's the final verdict is right here.

[Ally Makofsky]

Say anything. And you just. When you go to bed, you pop your teeth out. And he's like, what? And you're like, what? You just like, act as. Act as though. Let them. Mel Robbins. Let them see your fake teeth.

[Esther]

It's kind of like gaslighting them into thinking that it was always like they always knew.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Also no big deal.

[Esther]

Yeah. Would you have a problem? Problem?

[Ally Makofsky]

Is there going to be a problem here? Just kind of, you know. But I will say I'll have to give Dave credit because on our first date, he was like, just so you know, this is what I look like when I sleep. And he showed me a picture with his sleep apnea mask and all his tubes. And I was like, is it loud?

[Alice in Wonderland]

No. They're so quiet.

[Ally Makofsky]

Ours is a little loud.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Oh, that's because you haven't upgraded.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah.

[Alice in Wonderland]

You guys gotta get up to the ResMed. The new ones are so quiet.

[Ally Makofsky]

We have ResMed. It's just a different. We have. But we have something a little more.

[Esther]

Do you also.

[Alice in Wonderland]

My partner also can't breathe at night.

[Esther]

Is it a gut partner? Is it a guy like, I does.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yours More common in guys.

[Esther]

He. He went and got like a physical now, like, you should go to a sleep person about sleep doctor because he doesn't sleep very well. I sleep. It's kind of like when I had Max, I sleep through. I think because I've toured and like, like shared rooms with so many people my entire life, I can literally sleep on a floor and be fine. I would sleep through the crying. Oh, and. But he'd be like, he was up all night. Did you not? And he. But he will, he'll wake up. Like if I go. Like at a text, you go, what? And I'm like, oh, this is. He's just a super light sleep, by the way.

[Alice in Wonderland]

This is great. It goes back to another ick of mine. Huge ick. I don't think men should be allowed to ever sleep before their girl falls asleep.

[Ally Makofsky]

No, I know.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I think that is if you do like, just get out of my face. Like, you're not a real.

[Ally Makofsky]

It's so disgusting.

[Alice in Wonderland]

It's disgusting.

[Ally Makofsky]

It should be illegal.

[Esther]

No, I kind of like it. I'm. I. I'm like such a night owl. Like, I'll be up till 3am I've always been like that. And since having a kid, he's such an early riser. Always has been that he's up, up. And then I do the like later stuff.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Oh, shifts. You Guys work in shifts.

[Esther]

It's so good. And then I also. I really like my own time.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah.

[Esther]

So he's just next to me asleep. I'll be watching, like, 90 Day Fiance. Such a good show. I guess it's the best show. It's the best show. Is anyone else?

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah. I watch it, like, off and on when I'm getting my nails done. My nail gal is always watching, so I get little.

[Esther]

It's real. It's really good.

[Alice in Wonderland]

It's so good.

[Ally Makofsky]

Can I ask, because you said you had four miscarriages. Were those before you did ibs?

[Esther]

I had three before Max, and then I had one before this baby, and it was horrible. And I was in Asia and I had to fly back. We went to the doctor. My mom had flown over to see me, and I was playing shows, like, big shows over there. And I went into the doctor in Singapore, and they were just like. I just knew. And like, three hours later, I was going to the airport and I had just.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Just.

[Esther]

I mean, I. I really was like. I don't remember the flight back because I was on so much Xanax.

[Ally Makofsky]

What weeks were you.

[Esther]

That was seven weeks. So it wasn't. It's. You say, oh, it wasn't that far, but you get really attached as soon as you find out. And then the miscarriage, like, wasn't finalizing, so it was just. My body kept getting more and more pregnant, and so I needed to get surgery and I had to cancel more shows. And actually, like, this is also the first time I've ever said this, but, like, a lot of people got angry at me for canceling shows, and I was recovering and really heartbroken, and I didn't want to have to explain myself to anyone. And so, yeah. And to this day, people made tiktoks about me canceling this show. And like, I. Every single day I'll get at least three DMs being like, you. Like, you canceled this show. And I'm like, I was having a. I was losing a baby, and I had to.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Which is none of their business.

[Esther]

Exactly. And so I. I don't cancel shows just for fun. And so I hope if you're watching this, you feel really bad because it was horrible. And it was horrible. And to this day breaks my heart every time I read that dm, like, those kind of dms. So anyway, that sucked. And, you know, before that, you know, we had a round that got canceled just before I had to. It was just like. It's just been, like, a thing. But my doctor's really awesome.

[Ally Makofsky]

I had a missed miscarriage, too, where it's like, you don't actually bleed. You just go to the doctor. Like, there's no heartbeat.

[Esther]

And you're like, dude, it's the worst.

[Ally Makofsky]

They're like, yeah, it stopped growing two weeks ago. I'm like, so I've just been sitting here with it with nothing. Like, suffering for no reason. Like, that has. That trauma is, like, still with me.

[Esther]

It's so terrible. I don't know. And then having to, like, a week later, go and play New Year's Eve shows. I was, like, so beat up. Yeah. And there's been shows where I have been going through a miscarriage and had to, like. I mean, honestly, Garth, my. My manager, he was always like, you could cancel if you want. And I was like, if I do, I'm going to be so fucking depressed, so I have to do something. So I just, like, keep doing things. It's like, gnarly. Like, no one ever talks about it. And then, you know, if it is early or whatever, people like, oh, you know, it happens to so many people. It's like, it's still. You're still mourning something. It's still. Like, you. As soon as that happens, you're like, oh, shit. Like, you feel. I don't know, you know? Yeah.

[Ally Makofsky]

And then you're like, what's wrong with me? Like, I'm not working. Like, yeah, yeah.

[Esther]

You feel less of a woman. Yeah, it's like a whole thing. And I also, like, to have three in a row was, like, gnarly.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Oh, my gosh, gnarly. I remember Eliza Schlesinger said she was like. I just felt like an idiot because I was walking around with two weeks thinking that I still had the baby. And she put it really, where. She's like, everyone knew this thing. And I thought that I still had a lot, like, something I was still pregnant and I wasn't.

[Esther]

So it made me feel foolish. And it's embarrassing having to tell people that it didn't work. Like, I learned my lesson the first few times because I would tell my friends really early, and then I'd have to keep taking it back. And like, oh, God. You know, it was. It's. It's just. I know you shouldn't feel embarrassed, but I always would feel embarrassed, like, oh, like, just kidding, you know?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Lol.

[Esther]

Lol. One of them happened on a Mother's Day, which is also terrible. It was like, dude, like. But then, you know, all the. If you keep. When Max was born, I was like, oh, this all makes sense now. It was a weird. Yeah, weird. Like, closure.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

What do you think about?

[Esther]

I actually. Do you not. I don't.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

I'm just curious. Oh, I have no.

[Esther]

Funnily enough. Can I say his name?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Yeah.

[Esther]

Dylan Francis.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Oh, I love Dylan.

[Esther]

I love him. He's. I've toured. We did like, a whole tour together. I had a really. This is a we. Weird you say this because two days ago, I. I was having a day, and so I was like, fuck this. I'm gonna go get, like, a pedicure or a foot massage. And they only had 15 minutes, so I was just like, can you just give me a foot massage? Like, just do it. And then I walk outside. I'm like, fuck it. I'm just gonna take myself out to dinner. And so I sit there, and I had ordered three different muffins because I didn't know which one you would get. So I got three. And I get my, like, fizzy drink, because I can't have a drink right now. Oh, maybe I can. And I sit outside, like, the outside part of the restaurant, and I just get a text from Dylan Francis going, are you at Blah blah right now? I'm like, yeah, by myself. And he comes out.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

He's like.

[Esther]

Catches me in, like, the most derpiest. Like.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

That's so sweet.

[Esther]

No, but I love him. I actually really love Dylan.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Yeah, he's so sweet. He's done Tiger Belly twice.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

He did my little interview show.

[Alice in Wonderland]

He's so sweet.

[Esther]

He's genuinely amazing. I love him. And every time, he's like, we're both Croatian, like, and I don't know why we bonded over that, but that's how we started becoming friends. We're like, oh, York, he's awesome. I just fucking love him. And we also are in Vegas with him this weekend, so we. I just. I've seen a lot of him recently.

[Ally Makofsky]

Yeah, we were in. We were in Vegas this weekend.

[Esther]

Wait, were you?

[Ally Makofsky]

No, because you looked at me.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Wait, should we go to a Vegas?

[Esther]

Wait, you should come.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Come.

[Esther]

My. My last residency of the year in September, and I'm gonna be like, I'm not even allowed to travel. But I'm playing the show where I play at Zook.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Okay, let's go.

[Esther]

If you guys want to come, you can sit at the table. You'll get. They look after you. It's very late, though.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Okay, Kyle, I think this.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

You should go.

[Alice in Wonderland]

I know. I'm really.

[Esther]

I'm not even joking.

[Alice in Wonderland]

If any of you. It's not coming. I'm not even gonna try.

[Esther]

You're like my husband. He's like, I'll come to Vegas, but I'm gonna sit in the room.

[Ally Makofsky]

And that's what I do.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

We could do that too. We could go to best friend at the mgm. Best friend.

[Esther]

Shout out, Roy Choi.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Shout out.

[Esther]

We love you.

[Alice in Wonderland]

We love you so much.

[Ally Makofsky]

I have always wanted to eat there.

[Esther]

Come on, we can.

[Alice in Wonderland]

This friend is so good and it's so fun.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

And it's my birthday.

[Esther]

Wait, when?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

September 8th.

[Esther]

You're the se goth the seventh willow.

[Ally Makofsky]

Will you sign us out, Ally? Oh, yeah.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Ally are.

[Esther]

I feel like you need my glasses.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Oh, my God.

[Esther]

I would love you to add. To add to the vibe. Yeah.

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

Okay. It's DJ Ali Makovsky here saying thanks for watching.

[Esther]

Say the real. What's your real DJ name?

[DJ Tiny Pussy]

DJ Tiny saying thanks for watching Trash Tuesday. Like Comment. Subscribe. Throw a follow to Esther. Throw a follow to Kalila. Throw a follow to me. Ally Makovsky, Alice in Wonderland, our special guest today. Thanks for coming in peace, love, unity, respect.

[Ally Makofsky]

See you next week with a brand new episode, road.