Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn
Episode: ANDREA JIN & AMANDA THOMAS’S Nightmare Dates
Date: October 21, 2025
Episode Overview
In this hilarious and candid episode, hosts Khalyla Kuhn and Esther Povitsky are joined by comedian Andrea Jin and jewelry designer Amanda Thomas to dig deep into the world of modern dating—nightmare stories included. The conversation ricochets from Halloween and hot-girl friendships to men’s bodies, dating app disasters, and the not-so-glamorous realities behind “hot people problems.” Throughout, the hosts maintain their trademark blend of self-deprecation, sharp social commentary, and unfiltered humor.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Holidays, Growing Older & Skipping Halloween
- Discussion kicks off with banter about Halloween’s relentless duration in America versus other cultures, notably the Philippines where Christmas essentially replaces Halloween. (02:03-02:44)
- Khalyla shares: “In the Philippines, Christmas is our Super Bowl… we call it the bur months. And then it’s like full blast Mariah Carey Christmas music.” (02:24)
2. The Pretty Blonde Phenomenon & Beauty Acknowledged
- Jenna recounts a “traumatic” encounter with two pretty blondes, noting the self-awareness of hot people. (05:27)
- Jenna: “I heard one of them go … ‘She’s really cute, like us.’ … They know. Everyone knows. I thought hot people didn’t see looks.” (06:13)
- Hosts probe whether attractiveness dictates friendships—or if “hot people” only gather in packs. (07:00)
- Andrea Jin admits: “That is true…if you don’t think they’re pretty you don’t want to be friends with them.” (07:17)
3. Is Great White (the Café) Cancelled? Racism & Segregation in Social Spaces
- Touching on social media rumors and personal experiences of being “seated to the side” as Asians. (04:24-05:15)
- Coco: “Our coach used to put all of us minorities in the same lane … the Thai girl, the black girl, the Filipinos… This feels Great White.” (04:44)
- Discussion of “racist logic” and confusion about soft discrimination: (08:14-09:14)
- Jenna: “When I put my feet in a racist’s shoes, I don’t understand why it helps.” (08:49)
4. Amanda Thomas’s Nightmare Date: “Wheel of Cheese”
Amanda’s chronicle of a disastrous Joshua Tree weekend with a Hinge date becomes an episode highlight—an epic of awkwardness, gastrointestinal distress, and dashed expectations.
- The build-up:
- Accepts a spontaneous trip after two dates (“This is a tale of why you don’t go on short, cute trips with people you've only been on three dates with.” Amanda Thomas, 11:15)
- Red flags fly:
- He spends 7am-2pm on a "short film festival" Zoom, leaving Amanda alone with her groceries. (13:32)
- When he finally emerges: “He is voraciously hungry. He is famished.” (14:03)
- He eats two whole bagels without even slicing or toasting them—Amanda’s bagels, no less. (14:03)
- Then it gets worse:
- “So then he’s like, do you want to eat mushrooms? And I’m like, of course… Then we play bocce. And he’s being mean, and I’m like, why am I here?” (14:47)
- The man devours a whole wheel of Brie, more snacks, and then a pizza. Amanda suffers, culminating in being “Dutch ovened” by his mushroom-and-cheese farts. (17:03-17:42)
- “His stomach just starts going, like… and I’m like, trying… my iPad can only go so loud.” (17:42)
- The next morning, he plays a three-hour Huberman Lab podcast in silence: “That explains it.” (18:52)
- Aftermath: Amanda confronts him. “No, you didn’t [have a nice time]. And neither did I.” (19:00)
- Andrea Jin: “But, like, cute though…” (20:00)
- This segues to the crew dissecting men’s height, attractiveness, and the odd grace given to “cute” performers of terrible behavior.
5. Food, Men & Feeding: Universal Dysfunction
- Hosts share that many men struggle with basic meals and nutrition:
- “It goes from, like, I’m not hungry at all to, like, full… rage.” (25:26)
- Amanda’s Ozempic story: delivering weight-loss medication across continents for a high-status London man—only for him to cancel last minute.
- “I was more crazy about my bag full of Ozempic than I was him canceling.” (27:32)
- “That is degrading.” (27:19)
6. Red Flag Hinge/DM Messages: Kinks, Insults, and Overshares
- The group dramatically reads and reacts to nightmare dating app messages.
- Most notorious example:
- “Can we put peanut butter on my balls and you lick it off?”
- Jenna: “She said it is a no.”
- Amanda: “I feel like that’s worked on at least one person… he hail marries that to everyone and it works on one.” (30:19)
- “Can we put peanut butter on my balls and you lick it off?”
- Charming or horrifying? Some direct messages are so odd they border on “refreshing honesty,” while others make everyone cringe.
- “You’re not the best but you’re the best I could do.” (35:30)
- Andrea Jin: “This is bad.” (35:30)
- Amanda: “That’s an inside thought not to say to your date.” (35:38)
- Most notorious example:
7. Dating “Budgets” & Imperfection
- Compromising in dating equals “budget cuts”—much like house hunting. (36:13-36:45)
- “Honestly, it’s like buying a house. You don’t get all the things that you want.” (36:35)
- They agree: If someone hits 70-75% of your ideal, that’s a win.
8. Men’s Bodies, Flexibility, and the “Ick” Factor
- Debate about male flexibility and happiness:
- “Flexible is gross.” - Andrea Jin (41:35)
- “I’m the happiest when the person I am dating is like, crying. I think that’s so hot.” – Andrea Jin (43:10)
- Men shouldn’t be “too happy” or elated.
- Amanda: “Don’t be elated.” (43:36)
- Khalyla: “My partner was in yoga… he looked like he was passing away because he couldn’t… do a butterfly… and I was like, he’s a bit of me.” (43:58)
9. What Women Actually Want (Vs. What They Put Up With)
- Amanda describes her type as “shorter men, salt and pepper hair, 45+, creative-ish jobs… nice, sweet, cutie.” (49:01)
- Andrea Jin keeps her standards fixed on: “6’4, skinny, insect-like.” (20:22, 46:31)
- Both acknowledge that even with a “dream man,” the realities are always imperfect.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “I’m the happiest when the person I’m dating is, like, crying. I think that’s so hot.” – Andrea Jin (00:00, and callback at 43:10)
- Amanda’s wheel of cheese story:
- “He ate two full bagels, not even cut open. Not even toasted… like, there was bite marks… I was in the kitchen. I was shook.” (14:03)
- On direct kink messages:
- “Can we put peanut butter on my balls and you lick it off… that wasn’t a no.” – Amanda Thomas, reading aloud (30:09)
- “I feel like that’s worked on at least one person… he hail marries that to everyone and it works on one.” (30:19)
- Self-Deprecation and Raw Honesty:
- “You’re not the best, but you’re the best that I could do.” (35:30)
- “That’s an inside thought not to say to your date.” – Amanda Thomas (35:38)
- Relationship compromise:
- “If it hits at least like 70 to 75% of your wants, like, that’s a good catch for me.” – Coco (36:45)
- On seeking emotional detachment/stoicism in men:
- “Don’t show joy. Just smile slightly—or just be…” – Andrea Jin (43:27)
- “Don’t be elated.” – Amanda & Coco (43:36)
- “When I met my partner, he looked like he was passing away in yoga… that’s a man.” – Coco (44:14)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Intro, Halloween, and pretty blondes: 00:00–07:00
- Racism in restaurants / Great White cancellation: 04:24–09:14
- Amanda Thomas’s “Wheel of Cheese” dating catastrophe: 10:09–19:13
- Men, food, and Amanda’s Ozempic errand: 24:36–28:10
- Red flag hinge messages / dating app horrors: 29:58–36:01
- Relationship “budget cuts” & realistic expectations: 36:13–37:18
- Men’s bodies, flexibility, and the ‘ick’: 40:03–44:28
- Amanda and Andrea’s ideal types, gender rituals: 48:51–49:38
Flow & Tone
The episode is fast-moving, irreverent, frequently self-deprecating, and peppered with raw admissions and off-color humor. The hosts and guests routinely undercut potentially sentimental moments with jokes or derision—and always return to the “gross” realities of dating, beauty standards, and modern relationships, all for the sluggies (Trash Tuesday fans) who love, hate, or relate.
In summary:
This episode brims with nightmarish (but hilarious) dating stories, biting commentary on men’s bodies and mentalities, insight into modern friendship politics, and a refreshing refusal to sugarcoat the census of LA’s dating pool. Amanda’s tales are wild, Andrea’s standards are delightfully unhinged, and the recurring theme is: you can search for perfection, but you’ll always end up talking about something gross, disappointing, or faintly endearing.
