ANDREA JIN & AMANDA THOMAS’S Nightmare Dates

Summary

Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn
Episode: ANDREA JIN & AMANDA THOMAS’S Nightmare Dates
Date: October 21, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this hilarious and candid episode, hosts Khalyla Kuhn and Esther Povitsky are joined by comedian Andrea Jin and jewelry designer Amanda Thomas to dig deep into the world of modern dating—nightmare stories included. The conversation ricochets from Halloween and hot-girl friendships to men’s bodies, dating app disasters, and the not-so-glamorous realities behind “hot people problems.” Throughout, the hosts maintain their trademark blend of self-deprecation, sharp social commentary, and unfiltered humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Holidays, Growing Older & Skipping Halloween

• Discussion kicks off with banter about Halloween’s relentless duration in America versus other cultures, notably the Philippines where Christmas essentially replaces Halloween. (02:03-02:44)
  • Khalyla shares: “In the Philippines, Christmas is our Super Bowl… we call it the bur months. And then it’s like full blast Mariah Carey Christmas music.” (02:24)

2. The Pretty Blonde Phenomenon & Beauty Acknowledged

• Jenna recounts a “traumatic” encounter with two pretty blondes, noting the self-awareness of hot people. (05:27)
  • Jenna: “I heard one of them go … ‘She’s really cute, like us.’ … They know. Everyone knows. I thought hot people didn’t see looks.” (06:13)
• Hosts probe whether attractiveness dictates friendships—or if “hot people” only gather in packs. (07:00)
  • Andrea Jin admits: “That is true…if you don’t think they’re pretty you don’t want to be friends with them.” (07:17)

3. Is Great White (the Café) Cancelled? Racism & Segregation in Social Spaces

• Touching on social media rumors and personal experiences of being “seated to the side” as Asians. (04:24-05:15)
  • Coco: “Our coach used to put all of us minorities in the same lane … the Thai girl, the black girl, the Filipinos… This feels Great White.” (04:44)
• Discussion of “racist logic” and confusion about soft discrimination: (08:14-09:14)
  • Jenna: “When I put my feet in a racist’s shoes, I don’t understand why it helps.” (08:49)

4. Amanda Thomas’s Nightmare Date: “Wheel of Cheese”

Amanda’s chronicle of a disastrous Joshua Tree weekend with a Hinge date becomes an episode highlight—an epic of awkwardness, gastrointestinal distress, and dashed expectations.

• The build-up:
  • Accepts a spontaneous trip after two dates (“This is a tale of why you don’t go on short, cute trips with people you've only been on three dates with.” Amanda Thomas, 11:15)
• Red flags fly:
  • He spends 7am-2pm on a "short film festival" Zoom, leaving Amanda alone with her groceries. (13:32)
  • When he finally emerges: “He is voraciously hungry. He is famished.” (14:03)
  • He eats two whole bagels without even slicing or toasting them—Amanda’s bagels, no less. (14:03)
• Then it gets worse:
  • “So then he’s like, do you want to eat mushrooms? And I’m like, of course… Then we play bocce. And he’s being mean, and I’m like, why am I here?” (14:47)
  • The man devours a whole wheel of Brie, more snacks, and then a pizza. Amanda suffers, culminating in being “Dutch ovened” by his mushroom-and-cheese farts. (17:03-17:42)
  • “His stomach just starts going, like… and I’m like, trying… my iPad can only go so loud.” (17:42)
  • The next morning, he plays a three-hour Huberman Lab podcast in silence: “That explains it.” (18:52)
• Aftermath: Amanda confronts him. “No, you didn’t [have a nice time]. And neither did I.” (19:00)
  • Andrea Jin: “But, like, cute though…” (20:00)
  • This segues to the crew dissecting men’s height, attractiveness, and the odd grace given to “cute” performers of terrible behavior.

5. Food, Men & Feeding: Universal Dysfunction

• Hosts share that many men struggle with basic meals and nutrition:
  • “It goes from, like, I’m not hungry at all to, like, full… rage.” (25:26)
  • Amanda’s Ozempic story: delivering weight-loss medication across continents for a high-status London man—only for him to cancel last minute.
    • “I was more crazy about my bag full of Ozempic than I was him canceling.” (27:32)
    • “That is degrading.” (27:19)

6. Red Flag Hinge/DM Messages: Kinks, Insults, and Overshares

• The group dramatically reads and reacts to nightmare dating app messages.
  • Most notorious example:
    • “Can we put peanut butter on my balls and you lick it off?”
      • Jenna: “She said it is a no.”
      • Amanda: “I feel like that’s worked on at least one person… he hail marries that to everyone and it works on one.” (30:19)
  • Charming or horrifying? Some direct messages are so odd they border on “refreshing honesty,” while others make everyone cringe.
  • “You’re not the best but you’re the best I could do.” (35:30)
    • Andrea Jin: “This is bad.” (35:30)
    • Amanda: “That’s an inside thought not to say to your date.” (35:38)

7. Dating “Budgets” & Imperfection

• Compromising in dating equals “budget cuts”—much like house hunting. (36:13-36:45)
  • “Honestly, it’s like buying a house. You don’t get all the things that you want.” (36:35)
  • They agree: If someone hits 70-75% of your ideal, that’s a win.

8. Men’s Bodies, Flexibility, and the “Ick” Factor

• Debate about male flexibility and happiness:
  • “Flexible is gross.” - Andrea Jin (41:35)
  • “I’m the happiest when the person I am dating is like, crying. I think that’s so hot.” – Andrea Jin (43:10)
  • Men shouldn’t be “too happy” or elated.
    • Amanda: “Don’t be elated.” (43:36)
    • Khalyla: “My partner was in yoga… he looked like he was passing away because he couldn’t… do a butterfly… and I was like, he’s a bit of me.” (43:58)

9. What Women Actually Want (Vs. What They Put Up With)

• Amanda describes her type as “shorter men, salt and pepper hair, 45+, creative-ish jobs… nice, sweet, cutie.” (49:01)
• Andrea Jin keeps her standards fixed on: “6’4, skinny, insect-like.” (20:22, 46:31)
• Both acknowledge that even with a “dream man,” the realities are always imperfect.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I’m the happiest when the person I’m dating is, like, crying. I think that’s so hot.” – Andrea Jin (00:00, and callback at 43:10)
• Amanda’s wheel of cheese story:
  • “He ate two full bagels, not even cut open. Not even toasted… like, there was bite marks… I was in the kitchen. I was shook.” (14:03)
• On direct kink messages:
  • “Can we put peanut butter on my balls and you lick it off… that wasn’t a no.” – Amanda Thomas, reading aloud (30:09)
  • “I feel like that’s worked on at least one person… he hail marries that to everyone and it works on one.” (30:19)
• Self-Deprecation and Raw Honesty:
  • “You’re not the best, but you’re the best that I could do.” (35:30)
  • “That’s an inside thought not to say to your date.” – Amanda Thomas (35:38)
• Relationship compromise:
  • “If it hits at least like 70 to 75% of your wants, like, that’s a good catch for me.” – Coco (36:45)
• On seeking emotional detachment/stoicism in men:
  • “Don’t show joy. Just smile slightly—or just be…” – Andrea Jin (43:27)
  • “Don’t be elated.” – Amanda & Coco (43:36)
  • “When I met my partner, he looked like he was passing away in yoga… that’s a man.” – Coco (44:14)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro, Halloween, and pretty blondes: 00:00–07:00
• Racism in restaurants / Great White cancellation: 04:24–09:14
• Amanda Thomas’s “Wheel of Cheese” dating catastrophe: 10:09–19:13
• Men, food, and Amanda’s Ozempic errand: 24:36–28:10
• Red flag hinge messages / dating app horrors: 29:58–36:01
• Relationship “budget cuts” & realistic expectations: 36:13–37:18
• Men’s bodies, flexibility, and the ‘ick’: 40:03–44:28
• Amanda and Andrea’s ideal types, gender rituals: 48:51–49:38

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Flow & Tone

The episode is fast-moving, irreverent, frequently self-deprecating, and peppered with raw admissions and off-color humor. The hosts and guests routinely undercut potentially sentimental moments with jokes or derision—and always return to the “gross” realities of dating, beauty standards, and modern relationships, all for the sluggies (Trash Tuesday fans) who love, hate, or relate.

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In summary:
This episode brims with nightmarish (but hilarious) dating stories, biting commentary on men’s bodies and mentalities, insight into modern friendship politics, and a refreshing refusal to sugarcoat the census of LA’s dating pool. Amanda’s tales are wild, Andrea’s standards are delightfully unhinged, and the recurring theme is: you can search for perfection, but you’ll always end up talking about something gross, disappointing, or faintly endearing.

Transcript

[Andrea Jin]

I'm the happiest when, like, the person I'm dating is, like, crying. I think that's so hot.

[Jenna]

It's really masculine to just be, like, down, don't show joy.

[Andrea Jin]

Like, just smile slightly.

[Coco]

Don't be elated.

[Amanda Thomas]

I like that our last conversation was just talking about men's bodies and what they can and can't look like. And then this is about, we're gonna.

[Coco]

Get so much trouble.

[Amanda Thomas]

They literally can't be happy, and they're, like, disgusting. If they smile or show joy, we just set the clock back 10.

[Jenna]

Hello, it's me, Pongo. I'm so excited to tell you that this very weekend, I'm gonna be getting my little tail on a plane. And I will be in Seattle, and I'll be in Olympia, Washington, and then I'll be in Denver and all those shows. Denver is especially close to selling out. So if there are still tickets and you want to go get them in a month, I will be in Philly, Boston, and New York, and I'll see you guys there. You can get tickets at the link below or at pretty littlebaby tour.com. thank you to our favorite sponsor, skims.

[Coco]

What I love about Skims is that I don't have to give up my comfort to look cute. Their bralettes are just unstoppable.

[Jenna]

Shop our favorite bras and [e-mail] after you place your order. Be sure to let them know that we sent you and select podcast in the survey. And be sure to select Trash Tuesday in the dropdown menu that follows. Slugs. We just recorded a Patreon. All of us, Jules, Jenna, and Coco and I. And if you want to check it out, you could go to the Patreon. We actually covered a lot of, like, dating. Jules has some dating stuff going on.

[Coco]

If you want to find out Jules's secret crush o sign up for our Patreon, help her in her dilemma.

[Jenna]

With this boy, I had to face humiliation also, and I handled it. You can check out the Patreon and shout out to our golden slug, Brandon. Welcome to the third installment of Halloween month.

[Coco]

I feel like we've been doing Halloween for six years. Yeah.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Coco]

When does it end, guys?

[Jenna]

No, but this is. I noticed last night on Netflix, like, they do, like, all their scary stuff. The month of Halloween. Like, this is, like, what pros do.

[Coco]

I feel like Halloween is a lot bigger than I thought.

[Amanda Thomas]

It's huge. They've been selling candy since, like, August.

[Coco]

Yeah, you're so right.

[Amanda Thomas]

Pumpkin spice popped off in September.

[Coco]

Yeah. Because this makes sense. Because in the Philippines, Christmas is our Super Bowl. So when it goes from August to September, we call it the bur months. And then it's like full blast Mariah Carey Christmas music.

[Jenna]

Like, you guys are skipping over Halloween.

[Coco]

We skip over Halloween. We don't have Thanksgiving, so Christmas actually starts in July, kind of.

[Jenna]

Here's what I like about this method of celebrating Halloween, literally on October 1st. I feel that as I get older, the holidays, like, they slip past me. You know, they're passing me by.

[Coco]

You never struck me as a celebratory.

[Jenna]

No, I'm not. But I have, like, the spirit within and, like, I want to, you know, have a seance on all hallows Eve. Like I want. Yeah, like, I do want to do those things privately, alone. Don't you guys feel like they slip past you and you have to, like, really absorb the holidays?

[Coco]

I think when I was younger, in my 20s, I really like Halloween was a big, like, you planned ahead for.

[Amanda Thomas]

Sure as like a childless, late 30 something year old. Halloween comes and goes pretty quick for me. I'm like, I don't want to go out and I have no child to dress. So wait.

[Jenna]

Okay, so let's introduce our guest. So today we have. She's a jewelry designer. I discovered you on Pia Baranchini's podcast. You're so funny and your dating life is really exciting.

[Amanda Thomas]

I appreciate that.

[Jenna]

Welcome Amanda Thomas to the show. First time guest, pretty blonde with big boobs. Welcome.

[Amanda Thomas]

Thank you so much.

[Jenna]

I need to tell you guys, though, right out the gate, something really traumatic happened to me yesterday with pretty blondes. I was at Cookbook. The, like, chic little. Of course you do. You're pretty.

[Amanda Thomas]

Except I heard it got canceled.

[Coco]

Got canceled?

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah, Like, I went after it got canceled. It's delicious.

[Jenna]

Wait, it's canceled?

[Amanda Thomas]

I mean, apparently on TikTok it said it was, but it's delicious.

[Jenna]

Well, I heard the Great White is canceled.

[Coco]

Great White? Yeah. That's crazy.

[Jenna]

You know what?

[Coco]

They put my people to the side.

[Amanda Thomas]

Definitely.

[Jenna]

They were seating Asians outside and on.

[Amanda Thomas]

The bar, like, facing the wall.

[Jenna]

I. I don'. I don't know if I'm making this up. Like, you know how sometimes you make up memories? But I'm like, I feel like when I was there, I noticed that, but I can't remember if that's just like something that I saw on the TikTok talking about the race.

[Coco]

Yeah. Sometimes I look back at the time when I was a competitive swimmer and our coach used to put all of us Minorities in the same lane. And I. I never. I didn't clock it until, like, maybe my sophomore year, where I was like, okay, why are we. The Thai girl, the black girl, the Filipinos, all in one lane. And this feels great White.

[Jenna]

I actually, like, physically cann not comprehend, like, why. Why would someone do that?

[Amanda Thomas]

I don't know. Also, I got put in the corner at Great White recently. So I'm like, I don't. I think it's just like, whatever, Whatever goes.

[Coco]

Welcome. Come on in.

[Jenna]

Welcome. Andrea Gin.

[Coco]

Andrea Jin, everyone.

[Andrea Jin]

Sorry. Thank you.

[Jenna]

A little comedy Angel.

[Amanda Thomas]

Thank you.

[Jenna]

You need to listen to my traumatic story.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

We'll have two pretty blondes walk into the grocery market. And I'm just. I'm like. I'm like, right out the gate, I'm like, do they know, like, that they look like that? Like, is that why they're friends? Because just when you see two together, two friends that look alike, you're like, okay. As I'm leaving, they're standing outside and I'm like, obviously, like, let me just get, like, my five second. Like, let me just listen. And literally, I heard one of them go, like, they're telling. One was telling the other about another girl, and she's like, I think you guys would be friends. She's really cute, like, us. And I was like, they know because you know me, a short brunette with weight fluctuations. When I see them, I'm like, do they know that I'm uglier than them? Or are they blind to it? But it's like, they know. They all know.

[Amanda Thomas]

I feel like that's breaking the fourth wall. Yeah.

[Andrea Jin]

Like, you.

[Amanda Thomas]

I. I've never had a conversation with a girlfriend to be like, do they, like, like talking about, like, how cute we are?

[Jenna]

I guess I haven't either.

[Coco]

I don't either. My friends are, you know, we're like, we're pigs.

[Amanda Thomas]

We're pigs.

[Coco]

We're pigs. That's all we. That's all we say to each other all day.

[Andrea Jin]

I'll say to my friends, like, you're a beautiful woman, but that's it.

[Coco]

But do you and your girls, like, talk about how stunning you are?

[Andrea Jin]

Only person.

[Amanda Thomas]

Maybe in some DMS and some text messages when I'm hiking, everyone.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Andrea Jin]

Just like, oh, you're a beautiful woman.

[Jenna]

But would you accept someone that is not your kind?

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

Now I'm like, are attractive people only, like, supposed to be friends with other attractive?

[Coco]

Wait, you know what?

[Andrea Jin]

I think the weird one.

[Coco]

I have a bone to pick with you, little lady. Because you Collect, lady, you collect only hot friends.

[Jenna]

I love hot friends.

[Coco]

And ever since I've known you, if they're not even like of your, like, if you don't think they're pretty, you don't want to be friends with them.

[Andrea Jin]

Okay, that is true.

[Jenna]

That is true. But this is why this is affecting me so much is because all this time I'm like, maybe they don't know that I'm ugly. And like, they all know. Everyone knows. I thought hot people didn't see looks. Like they just.

[Amanda Thomas]

They don't understand.

[Jenna]

They just exist.

[Amanda Thomas]

They don't have to know. I'm getting it. I'm understanding. Like the revelation. You had a cookbook kitchen.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

It's like in the 90s when white people would be like, I don't see color. They still say that they do anyways. So that's my trauma today. Anyone else have a trauma?

[Coco]

I do feel just even witnessing two natural blondes in the wild. Man or woman is pretty.

[Amanda Thomas]

Confronting a blonde man is like very scary.

[Coco]

It is scary, right?

[Amanda Thomas]

Actually spooky.

[Coco]

Thank you. I agree.

[Amanda Thomas]

Being on theme, a blonde man.

[Andrea Jin]

I like them.

[Amanda Thomas]

What are you doing here? Where did you come from?

[Andrea Jin]

I like it. How do you feel about it's cool looking.

[Coco]

How you feel about Great White being canceled for putting us Asians, Seating us Asians to the side?

[Jenna]

Wait, look at what they did to us on the podcast today. I don't like that the Asians are over there.

[Andrea Jin]

Oh, no.

[Coco]

How dare they?

[Andrea Jin]

What is this?

[Coco]

And they dressed you like a dog.

[Amanda Thomas]

I feel like you look like the little Snapchat girl.

[Andrea Jin]

That's cute.

[Amanda Thomas]

The best one.

[Andrea Jin]

I mean, why. Why is that a thing? What do you like their food? Really? But then I didn't know, like, why do they think that's better from a racist point of view?

[Jenna]

That's why I can't make sense of it better. When I put my shoes in the racist. When I put my feet in a racist shoes, I don't understand why it helps.

[Andrea Jin]

Right? Like as from the racist point of view, why is it better that the Asians are like, just don't let them in the restaurant. Then if you're that, why don't you double down on your racism?

[Amanda Thomas]

Right.

[Jenna]

Pick.

[Andrea Jin]

Just be like, oh, it's like a three hour wait. Why is it like you separated it Serve them.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Andrea Jin]

I don't get it. It just seems like a weird thing.

[Jenna]

A moment of silence.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

They're honestly doing fine during this cancellation.

[Coco]

They're going to line.

[Amanda Thomas]

Line down the block.

[Coco]

Of course.

[Jenna]

I Do like the food.

[Andrea Jin]

Really? I feel like it's kind of.

[Amanda Thomas]

I love.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

Boring Breakfast burrito.

[Jenna]

Oh, no. The whites like it golden turmeric. That's why they do it, because we're.

[Andrea Jin]

Bumming you out with, like, not liking the food.

[Coco]

Like, not too far from there, you have Amandine Patisserie.

[Jenna]

What's that exactly?

[Amanda Thomas]

Delicious bakery. Best quiche. Yes, Best.

[Coco]

So many things.

[Jenna]

This is a bakery that has.

[Coco]

They have breakfast. They have just about everything. They even have, like, lunch options, like, but their quiches.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah. It's like one of life's simple pleasures is an almond and quiche slice.

[Andrea Jin]

Oh, yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

Really a delish dish.

[Jenna]

Okay, Amanda, we do want to get into what's going on in your dating life, because, as I've told you, I. So Amanda's a jewelry designer, but she's also. But her jewelry is so chic and cute.

[Amanda Thomas]

Thank you.

[Jenna]

She has, like, the best dating stories, and I listened to her on other podcasts, and I'm like, I. They know nothing. But I'm just curious, like, if you have any favorites or if there's anything recent.

[Amanda Thomas]

I. I was thinking about it. I was like, all right, you guys have heard nothing. I'm like, what are some of the bangers? And also just, like, this. The spookiest.

[Jenna]

The spooky season. Show us what it's like to be a pretty blonde in la.

[Amanda Thomas]

It's actually, like, scarier than you think. It's not as, like, easy and nice and lovely, but I feel like whenever I'm. I'm going down a path, and I'm like, okay, this is not going well. I'm like, let's just finish it out and see what happens, because it could be really funny.

[Jenna]

I love that.

[Amanda Thomas]

You know, I like to name all my tales. So would you guys rather hear the roofer or Wheel of Cheese?

[Jenna]

I can't help but wonder about the wheel of cheese.

[Amanda Thomas]

This is a tale of why you don't go on short, cute trips with people you've only been on three dates with.

[Andrea Jin]

Oh, gosh.

[Coco]

I already fully agree.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

This is. I just. Before you get started, I have to interject that my jacket sister recently, like, on a third date, was invited to go to Italy.

[Andrea Jin]

Oh, my God.

[Jenna]

For, like, a week. And I was like, you have to go. And she. And she was gonna go, and then ended up backing out. And I was so mad at her. But I guess maybe I was wrong. I don't know.

[Amanda Thomas]

Like, I like to be spontaneous.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

I would be like, sure.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

And also that can Happen like a good story. Like, the worst that happened in this case was traffic. Wheel of Cheese. And now I'm here sitting with the microphone, about to tell you guys about this disgusting man. Okay, this was a hinder, actually. We went on two dates and then we were talking about, like, traveling and, like, going places. And he's like, we should, like, go somewhere for the weekend, like Ohio or Palm Springs or whatever. And then I was like, oh, my sister has an Airbnb on Joshua Tree. And he's like, perfect, let's go there. I was like, it's in the middle of nowhere. It'll just be the two of us. That is such a bad idea. Like, I. To be honest, there's actually no one I want to be alone in the house in Joshua Tree with, like, maybe my mom. And we, like, don't speak to each other. But I came up with this idea and he agreed to it. So he comes to my house, picks me up. I got some Erewhon groceries. He got some Trader Joe's. We did a little, like, mixed bag. We get to the house and he's like, just FYI, I have a zoom in the morning. I was like, okay, no worries. That night we drank a bunch of wine. We ended up, like, getting in a fight while we were like, playing a card game.

[Jenna]

Like a real fight.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah. And then we just, like, went to bed. And I was like, oh. Oh, God. I didn't realize it was like that deep. Okay. Then the next morning, he gets up at 7. He goes into, like, the other room on his Zoom. 10am rolls around, I get up, I'm just like, is he still on a zoom? He stayed on his zoom till 2pm he didn't tell me he was a judge in a short film festival. And the short film festival was that morning and you had to watch every short film. He was like, locked in a room.

[Andrea Jin]

So crazy.

[Coco]

What?

[Amanda Thomas]

Also, I have, like, so many questions. Like, why are you a judge of a short film festival? Why would you use the short film.

[Jenna]

Festival, choose this weekend to go?

[Amanda Thomas]

Why would you choose this weekend to go? So he was locked in a room. So he didn't eat one bite of food from like 7am till like 2 when he emerged.

[Jenna]

And he didn't tell you it would be till 2?

[Amanda Thomas]

He didn't tell me. By the way, the best part of the whole trip was those like six hours I had alone. And then so he comes out, he is voraciously hungry. He is famished.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

I see him eat two full bagels, two full Bagels, like, not even cut open. Not even toasted to the dome. Like, there was bite marks coming out of them. I was like, you should have seen my face. I was in the kitchen. Like, I was shook, and I'm like.

[Jenna]

Were they your bagels?

[Amanda Thomas]

They were my bagels.

[Jenna]

I knew it.

[Amanda Thomas]

They were my Aran bagels.

[Jenna]

I knew it.

[Amanda Thomas]

Annoying. He's just like, biting them. I'm like, do you want to, like, do you need cream cheese? Do you need butter? He's like, I'm so hungry. I'm like, I know, I know, I know, I know.

[Andrea Jin]

Gross.

[Amanda Thomas]

I know you're so hungry. I know.

[Andrea Jin]

But, like, are you a baby? Like, keep it down.

[Amanda Thomas]

So then he's like, do you want to eat mushrooms? And I'm like, of course. I mean, I guess. I don't know. I don't know. Sure. Like, this is so bad. It's now like 2:30. He has two bagels, like, in his belly. Then we eat mushrooms. Then we play bocce. And he's like, being mean, and I'm like, why am I here?

[Andrea Jin]

I hate it here.

[Amanda Thomas]

So then we go inside and he's like, let's make a cheese board. I was like, you just ate two bagels, but, okay. He brought all, all the cheeses. It's like a full wheel of Brie. Like Cam and Bear.

[Coco]

There's like, good price is a tj, though. Trader Joe's really high price is a tj.

[Amanda Thomas]

Better prices than. Than my erewhon prices. He makes a whole spread. He eats the entire wheel.

[Andrea Jin]

I knew it from the bagel thing. I was like, did he just eat it? Like.

[Amanda Thomas]

He at least cut them. He at least cut them into little, like, squares and ate them one by one. But the whole wheel was consumed by him. So we're now about 4 o'.

[Andrea Jin]

Clock.

[Amanda Thomas]

He has a wheel of brie in his belly and two bagels, plus a handful of mushrooms.

[Jenna]

Can you imagine how sick you'd be?

[Coco]

Like, I just can't imagine being on mushrooms because I, you know, I. I do mushrooms and I just don't.

[Amanda Thomas]

You don't want to eat like that?

[Coco]

Like, I want to be comfortable.

[Andrea Jin]

It's disgusting.

[Coco]

Eating is not my number one.

[Amanda Thomas]

And then when I forgot, we're drinking orange wine, so we're putting like, sour alcohol in our. Like, it was so I'm like, dude, what? Like, I'm not eating all this cheese. I already had like, a nice cute avocado toast for breakfast at a reasonable hour. Then 6pm rolls around and he's like, let's make dinner. And I was like, oh, okay. Like, but I'm so bored.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

He makes two pizzas. What do you think happened?

[Coco]

He even sliced one.

[Amanda Thomas]

He ate. He ate an entire pizza.

[Coco]

Does he have a thyroid problem? Are noticing that maybe he's hyperthyroid. He's really hungry. Skinny. Is he very skinny with Bulgaria?

[Amanda Thomas]

I don't know. The whole thing is, like, weird. It's just not a vibe. Now we're on mushrooms.

[Jenna]

It's certainly not sexy to eat that way.

[Amanda Thomas]

No. So then we get into bed, and I'm like, do you. Do you want to watch, like, Netflix or something?

[Coco]

Are you guys, at this point, like. Like, we haven't even kissed.

[Amanda Thomas]

We haven't even, like, kissed. I'm like, this is a wrap. Like, I don't know what's happening. Like, I need to get into bed and, like, watch tv, and then I'm going to go to sleep. So we get into bed. Then we start watching some zombie show on Netflix. Starts Dutch ovening.

[Coco]

Me. Of course. Yeah, the cheese.

[Amanda Thomas]

I was gonna say.

[Andrea Jin]

I was gonna be like, what has he been farting?

[Coco]

What goes in must come out.

[Amanda Thomas]

He's not acknowledging it, so he's ripping ass silently. And I. I'm literally like. Like, this technically was my idea. The whole thing was my idea. Like, we're here because of me.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah, but you didn't force him to eat.

[Jenna]

I didn't force you.

[Amanda Thomas]

I didn't force feed you. Eat a wheel of Brie plus a pizza, plus us eat two handfuls of mushrooms. This is insane. And then his stomach just starts going, like. And I'm like, trying. Like, my iPad can only go so loud. So then, you know, he's getting up, going to the restroom. I can hear everything. I start texting my mom. And I was like, I'm. I'm going to walk out into the desert and I'm. I might die. I might die.

[Coco]

And she's honestly, the better alternative.

[Amanda Thomas]

What's happening? I was like, he's Dutch ovening me. She's like, go in the other bedroom. Tell him to off. I was like, I can't. I can't. Like, I'm like, I'm just a people pleaser and I can't be mean. I withstand that the entire night.

[Jenna]

No, I would just be like, do you have gas? Like, yeah.

[Coco]

It's like, sir, it's okay.

[Jenna]

We all have it.

[Coco]

We both know it's not me. Like, please just.

[Andrea Jin]

Just go poo. Go poo.

[Jenna]

I have to go on the other.

[Amanda Thomas]

There's Multiple bathrooms in this home. Like, pick one further away from me.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

Anyways, so needless to say, we did not have sex. We didn't even kiss. Nothing happened. And then the spookiest part of it all is the next morning we drove home and he played a three hour Huberman Lab podcast.

[Coco]

Oh, that explains it.

[Amanda Thomas]

In silence.

[Jenna]

Which one do you remember?

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah, it was about dopamine levels.

[Coco]

Ew.

[Amanda Thomas]

And then he texted me and he said he had a really nice time. And I was like. And I just went so crazy. And I was like, no, you didn't. And neither did. No, you didn't. And neither did I. Like, why are you pretending this was nice? This was really bad.

[Jenna]

What does he want?

[Amanda Thomas]

This was so bad for, like, you and for me.

[Andrea Jin]

Was he cute?

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah, he was.

[Coco]

Okay, truly, like, how far a good face can take you.

[Jenna]

What was his. Was he tall?

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah, was he tall?

[Amanda Thomas]

He had, like, a good career. He was really smart and he was cute.

[Jenna]

What is, like, the career? Like, he was like.

[Amanda Thomas]

He was like.

[Jenna]

An ad agency.

[Andrea Jin]

I would have been like, oh, that's charming.

[Amanda Thomas]

He was like. He was an interesting person.

[Andrea Jin]

Okay, Honestly.

[Coco]

Her whole mind has changed because of the good career thing.

[Andrea Jin]

She said she'd take everything and he's cute. I would have been like, oh, that's charming. I would have been like, oh, he has a good appetite.

[Amanda Thomas]

Oh, I would have been like, oh, no. He was like an uncouth man. Like, he, like, couldn't keep it together.

[Andrea Jin]

But, like, cute, though.

[Jenna]

What age?

[Amanda Thomas]

He was like, 48.

[Andrea Jin]

Tall.

[Amanda Thomas]

Like, not tall, but not short.

[Andrea Jin]

Wait, how tall?

[Amanda Thomas]

Like a regular height?

[Coco]

Like, maybe like, 5, 9? 5 10.

[Amanda Thomas]

5 10?

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Andrea Jin]

Okay, never mind. Never mind.

[Jenna]

No, that's not tall enough for you.

[Andrea Jin]

That's not tall enough. Really? Yeah.

[Coco]

What?

[Jenna]

How tall are you?

[Amanda Thomas]

How tall are you?

[Andrea Jin]

Five seven.

[Coco]

And you need.

[Jenna]

What do you need? What's your height?

[Andrea Jin]

6 4.

[Amanda Thomas]

Oh, my. You're greedy.

[Coco]

Also, by the way, really tall naked men don't look good.

[Andrea Jin]

I like.

[Coco]

That's a really bold statement. I just have beef with one guy who was like, a really tall basketball player, and I was like, oh, this is like.

[Amanda Thomas]

You're right, they don't look good.

[Coco]

It's almost too confronting mean to them.

[Amanda Thomas]

Because every girl is a height supremacist in la.

[Coco]

Yes.

[Amanda Thomas]

And like, all the six four guys get every girl, so we need to be mean to them.

[Coco]

And honestly, like, this guy was 6 5. He was fully naked, fully athletic, and I was so icked out. I was like, I don't like how Much room you're taking.

[Andrea Jin]

Okay.

[Coco]

And you're naked in the flesh. Like, this is too much for me.

[Andrea Jin]

I don't like when they're really big, but I like when it's like really skinny. Like, really skinny, really tall.

[Coco]

What do you mean?

[Andrea Jin]

Like insect.

[Coco]

What?

[Jenna]

A specific, you know, like, like centipede.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah. Like in, like, really?

[Coco]

You like bones? Like bony?

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Coco]

You like bony? I'm very opposite. I need skinny, meaty, but not over nothing over six two or even nothing over like six. Yeah, I'm good with six. Six one.

[Amanda Thomas]

I mean, I need to feel little.

[Jenna]

Yeah. Well, how tall are you?

[Amanda Thomas]

Five' three.

[Jenna]

They're gonna be little with anybody.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah, that's true.

[Amanda Thomas]

I wasn't as little before, and so I was like, I had to make sure a guy was bigger than me.

[Jenna]

I feel like since I discovered skims bras and underwear, like, I finally have a collection at home that's comfortable where I also feel really cute in it.

[Coco]

Right.

[Jenna]

I'm not like, reaching for the granny panties anymore. I just have my collection of my skims bralettes. Right. Like, I feel supported, but it's still comfortable, not restricted. The Fits everybody triangle bralette is the hottest thing I've ever worn.

[Coco]

You know, my boobs have gone from like an A to basically whatever they are now, which is like, pretty big.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Coco]

I didn't have to resize.

[Jenna]

I know.

[Coco]

I didn't have to get a new set of anything. Like, they just adapted to my new size.

[Jenna]

Well, I'm telling you, when I wear the Fits everybody triangle bralette, it's so hot. Like, and I would never have thought a bralette, it would make me so sexy. Like, you think you need a push up, whatever, but the way that that is just like stitched and formed, it's very, very, very hot. And you guys can shop our favorite bras and [e-mail] and after you place your order, please be sure to let them know that we sent you. Select podcast in the survey and be sure to select our show in the dropdown menu that follows.

[Coco]

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[Jenna]

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[Coco]

Also, what I can do with Monarch, you have. Your financial advisor is your dad, mine is my stepdad, and I can give him access to that.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Coco]

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[Jenna]

We have a banana break. Feel free to. Feel free to eat it. Or not. Thanks. Megan, you look amazing. You don't seem like you love it. You're running to change.

[Amanda Thomas]

Is that from Amazon Prime?

[Jenna]

Probably.

[Coco]

But this guy, after that conversation, he was like, all right, I get it. We're good. Like. Or did he push, like, the roofer?

[Amanda Thomas]

No, I mean, he was combative, as they all are, but it was fine.

[Jenna]

There is something weird about grown men where I face this with Dave literally every day. Like, they don't really know how to properly feed themselves.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah, it's extreme.

[Jenna]

Yeah, that's true.

[Coco]

We were.

[Jenna]

The other day, we were driving to an appointment together, and it was like. It was like one o'.

[Andrea Jin]

Clock.

[Jenna]

And I turn over to him, I'm like, have you eaten today? He's like, no. I'm like, so you're gonna be starving this whole time? Like, it's just.

[Coco]

What? I actually have to agree with that. It's. And. And then you pay the price when it's always a little too late, and now their blood sugars dropped, and then they take it out on you.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Coco]

They're so angry and they're angry, and you're like, well, I told you to eat the protein bar to hold you over, and. No, no, it's a protein. I actually agree with that. I don't think I've ever met a guy who knows how to eat properly.

[Jenna]

But was that an issue with Bobby?

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Coco]

I mean, I'm sure, you know, with Bobby, with my ex.

[Andrea Jin]

I know.

[Coco]

Like, it goes from, like, I'm not hungry at all to, like, full. Like, hypoglycemic and in a rage.

[Andrea Jin]

Like, they're gonna faint.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

They're shoving bagels down.

[Amanda Thomas]

Did you. Did you listen to me on Pia's podcast where I talked about this summer, a grown man asked me to bring him Ozempic.

[Jenna]

Will you talk about that?

[Amanda Thomas]

This is a very, very, like, established director.

[Jenna]

I'm gonna need the name off air.

[Amanda Thomas]

This is iconic behavior. I was dating this.

[Jenna]

Yeah, tell this story.

[Amanda Thomas]

He lives in London. We've been, like, on and off for years.

[Jenna]

Oh, really?

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah. So I was coming to London. He's like, oh, my gosh. We're gonna have a whole, like, weekend together. I'm gonna plan this whole thing. And he's like, I've put on a bit of timber lately. I'm like, what's. What's timber? He's like, it means weight. And he's like, can you bring me Ozempic? I was like, are you serious?

[Andrea Jin]

They don't have it over there.

[Amanda Thomas]

I'm like, they don't have it over there.

[Coco]

Not a compound in version.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah, they don't have a compounded pharmacy. I'm like, oh, my God. I'm like, I have to fly with this. He's like, please. So I literally get him Ozempic. I, like, packed it. I had, like, needles and compounded formulas. Like an ice pack.

[Jenna]

Something traveling in your suitcase.

[Andrea Jin]

That's a huge ask. That's a huge, huge. And I have two biggest.

[Amanda Thomas]

Paid for it.

[Andrea Jin]

That's insane.

[Jenna]

How much it was.

[Amanda Thomas]

It wasn't too bad, but, I mean, I.

[Jenna]

Give me a range, but he should.

[Andrea Jin]

Have prepaid for it.

[Amanda Thomas]

Well, I assumed he was gonna pay me, and for labor, I went to Paris first.

[Jenna]

Was he paying for your flight?

[Amanda Thomas]

No, I was going for work anyways, so I was gonna see him. He's gonna pay for, like, hang.

[Jenna]

Was it over 500?

[Amanda Thomas]

No.

[Andrea Jin]

Okay. Thank you for your, like, trouble. It should have been.

[Jenna]

It was like.

[Amanda Thomas]

It was like, packing. It was a headache. And it was also, like, embarrassing. I was bringing, like, a grown man Ozempic.

[Jenna]

It is degrading.

[Amanda Thomas]

Like, that is degrading. And then I get to Paris, and then he texts me. He's like, I'm so sorry. I have to cancel. And I was like, oh, are you? I was like, are you? You.

[Andrea Jin]

That's insane.

[Amanda Thomas]

I was more crazy about my bag full of Ozempic than I was him canceling.

[Jenna]

What are you supposed to do with the ozone?

[Andrea Jin]

At least get the Ozempic.

[Coco]

I would put it up on their Craigslist.

[Amanda Thomas]

I actually, literally gave it to my housekeeper because she really wanted it. So I was like, it went to a good home. Okay.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

She was like, in Paris? No, back in la.

[Andrea Jin]

That's funny that you bring it home.

[Jenna]

Has been to Paris and I went.

[Amanda Thomas]

To London after that. And then it came on.

[Andrea Jin]

Well, you went multiple locations.

[Jenna]

That's so horrible.

[Amanda Thomas]

And then it just came home.

[Andrea Jin]

That's so funny.

[Amanda Thomas]

Just came home. He actually texted me recently, like, in the, like, last two weeks to apologize.

[Jenna]

Did you ever pay you back?

[Coco]

What the fuck? No.

[Amanda Thomas]

He's so unwell.

[Jenna]

Did he have an excuse for canceling?

[Amanda Thomas]

He did. He said that he had to take his children to Wimbledon.

[Coco]

Andrea's gonna like that excuse.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

Wait.

[Andrea Jin]

I was like, wait, that's kind of charming.

[Jenna]

No, I'm like, Now you're like, did he look like an insect?

[Andrea Jin]

Is he tall and cute?

[Amanda Thomas]

He's actually so six' four.

[Andrea Jin]

Oh, my God. I think that's charming.

[Jenna]

She can't control herself.

[Coco]

Somebody's trying to get even skinnier with Ozempic.

[Andrea Jin]

I know. That's so nice.

[Amanda Thomas]

Oh, my God.

[Jenna]

You should be bringing your dates. Ozempic.

[Amanda Thomas]

Literally him post. Ozempic is your dream man. Maybe. Yeah.

[Andrea Jin]

The things I put up with because they're kind of tall and skinny.

[Amanda Thomas]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrea Jin]

It's crazy where I'm like, oh, that's so cute.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

I really anti tall man man.

[Amanda Thomas]

I think, like you said, I love a shorty.

[Jenna]

They're getting away with too much in our society, and it's like, we have to stop them.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah.

[Coco]

But this I put up with with a short man too, was pretty, right? Like, insane.

[Andrea Jin]

That's the thing. Like, I've date. I never cared about tall until I dated all short. And then they. They behave the same.

[Coco]

Yeah, I would agree.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah. It's kind of like once they have.

[Amanda Thomas]

You, I think a short king's nicer. At least they are in the beginning.

[Andrea Jin]

That's what I'm saying. Like, once they have you, they. They act the same, kind of.

[Coco]

Keep it on theme. We did have some horrifying men of hinge.

[Jenna]

Let's go there.

[Amanda Thomas]

Most red flag messages we were able to dig up.

[Jenna]

Let's go there.

[Amanda Thomas]

Okay.

[Coco]

This one says, can we put peanut butter on my balls? And you lick it off. She says, literally. What the. And he says, that wasn't a no.

[Jenna]

She said, it is a no.

[Andrea Jin]

That's how he opened.

[Amanda Thomas]

That's crazy.

[Coco]

Right after she liked a photo immediately.

[Amanda Thomas]

I'm gonna say, I feel like that's worked on at least one person. Like, I feel like he hail marries that to everyone and it works on one.

[Coco]

Just crazy charming.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah.

[Coco]

He'S an insect.

[Andrea Jin]

I like the photo. Yeah. What if I like to photograph?

[Amanda Thomas]

He's really hot and Tall.

[Andrea Jin]

That was tall.

[Coco]

That's so unfortunate.

[Andrea Jin]

But okay, here's the thing. I do like, oh, no, no, time was wasted, you know, like. Because if it's like, oh, lure me in and then that.

[Amanda Thomas]

Right.

[Andrea Jin]

Then I'd be like, oh, well, that's not what I wanted. But then that's just straight up. I want this. And I'm like, okay, if I don't want that, then we're good. That is true. But if I do want it, then okay, thank you.

[Jenna]

Because I do feel like the more typical approach would be to lure you in.

[Amanda Thomas]

Right.

[Andrea Jin]

And be like, hi, what are your interests?

[Coco]

Yeah. And then you get to the his house and there's peanut butter on the counter.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah. And then it's like, ground turkey, honey and ground turkey on his counter.

[Andrea Jin]

Oh, you know. No, I want. I thought he cared about my interests, you know, but then it's actually for peanut butter.

[Jenna]

It's an interesting take that can't be denied.

[Amanda Thomas]

Also, I'm going to say Luke could have gotten there if he gave him more time. I think so.

[Coco]

I think so too. Because I'm not one to kink shame.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Coco]

If at some point you're just being a gentleman.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah.

[Coco]

And at some point you're like, hey, this is, like, thing I like, and it involves peanut butter. And I'm like, look, I don't have an anaphylactic reaction.

[Amanda Thomas]

Okay, cool.

[Coco]

Like, let's get there. Yeah, I don't care. Yeah, just be chill about it.

[Andrea Jin]

He should have had her fall in love with him first.

[Amanda Thomas]

Also, I like that he left her on red for, like, eight hours.

[Andrea Jin]

So rude.

[Amanda Thomas]

Oh, my God.

[Andrea Jin]

What up?

[Amanda Thomas]

Dimitri's messaging this girl. What up, milk bags? I'm currently off six slim gyms and four lines of crushed blue chew trying to see how far I can get my nose in it. Anyway, that's funny. You're really pretty use. You're really. You're actually pretty huge.

[Coco]

Like, you huge.

[Amanda Thomas]

Huge. And that probably squee.

[Andrea Jin]

Let me know what I kind of like.

[Amanda Thomas]

Am I too old? What is sweet?

[Andrea Jin]

That's kind of funny.

[Coco]

It is kind of funny.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

It takes Slim Jims. What's Crushed Blue Chew.

[Coco]

Oh, that's the, like, Viagra pill. Dick pill.

[Andrea Jin]

So he's.

[Jenna]

He's.

[Coco]

He's really, like, Raging Boner. Just.

[Amanda Thomas]

He's got proton his throat with the Slim Jims. Yeah, he's got the blue chew. That's really. That's a lot to me.

[Coco]

I like the line how far I can get my nose in it because I'm a nose person. I like dudes with big noses.

[Andrea Jin]

Oh.

[Coco]

So I think that that is actually kind of romantic.

[Amanda Thomas]

Do you love Adrian Brody? I think he's the best nose.

[Coco]

Yeah, Exactly.

[Jenna]

But for me, if you're saying like, what up, milk bags? Like you think I look good, why do you need four blue shoes? Like, I'm just like, you have a, like a problem. And I'm not even like trying to ed shame, but it's like, like that's not crushing. Four of them is.

[Coco]

Like, a lot of these young dudes, or dudes in general think that their idea of good sex lasts like an hour long. Like, for me, anything past nine minutes is a chore.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah, it's a chore.

[Coco]

Please don't keep me in this for longer than that. And I think this idea of like. Because they watch a ton of porn and so they think they. That having a raging boner for six hours is the way to go.

[Jenna]

If you're using that, it's like your vas. Like that much, your vascular system, something is getting offset in the wrong way.

[Coco]

He's gonna. He's hypotensive. His.

[Amanda Thomas]

He's. He's hypotensive. It's definitely. He's unwell for sure.

[Coco]

He's going to shock soon. He will need some like fluid support soon.

[Andrea Jin]

That's why he's like, you know, he.

[Amanda Thomas]

Needs oxygen, muscle, sodium from the Slim Jims. It's a lot on his body, but.

[Coco]

That'S keeping his blood pressure her up.

[Amanda Thomas]

Maybe. Actually. Maybe Demitri's figured out the combo. I don't know.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah, I kind of like.

[Coco]

It seems like this is just a young 21 year old shooting his shot at an older lady.

[Andrea Jin]

I think it's kind of charming. It's funny. Kind of funny.

[Amanda Thomas]

What's going on with your stuff?

[Andrea Jin]

The banana kind of. I don't know what's going on with the banana?

[Coco]

It's. It was a greener banana. It's good for your digestion.

[Andrea Jin]

Oh, okay.

[Coco]

It's good.

[Jenna]

Wait, does that something that you do for your digestion?

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Coco]

Asian lady babies.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah, we all do that.

[Coco]

We always press like.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah, just do circle.

[Coco]

Do you do this one?

[Andrea Jin]

It's like lymphatic. Oh, yes, of course.

[Jenna]

What's this?

[Coco]

It's to. It's just. Yeah. Gas. Trapped emotions.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah. Trapped emotions. Yeah.

[Coco]

I gotta be honest, Morgan. I spent a lot of years chasing women and like beautiful women, like models and scholars, like really educated women. Very smart women. Cook really well. These great women. I spent a lot of time just chasing after them. It was just the constant rejection action. And what I realized is I'm at a certain level and I'm not rich enough and I'm not smart enough and I'm not good looking enough. So I'm just going to have to lower my standards to take what I can get because it's not easy out there with a face like this and a bank account like mine. So you're not the best, but you're the best that I could do.

[Andrea Jin]

This is bad.

[Coco]

What the.

[Jenna]

This guy is like too honest, bro.

[Coco]

Like a 4chan guy. This is like an incel.

[Amanda Thomas]

That's an inside thought not to say to your date.

[Coco]

Yeah. This is unforgivable.

[Jenna]

What does he think this is gonna get?

[Coco]

Poor Morgan.

[Amanda Thomas]

Poor Morgan.

[Andrea Jin]

I know Morgan.

[Amanda Thomas]

Where did you find these?

[Coco]

Cody was his name. Yeah. Obviously he said.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah. Yeah, that's a dumb name.

[Jenna]

It's just so hard. It's like men like this are so misguided.

[Coco]

You're right. Because I feel like you don't think that women do this every day. That we don't look at you and think, okay, you're. You kind of look like a gargoyle, but like you have. Have X, Y and z going for you. So I will.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Coco]

This is our thoughts every day.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah.

[Coco]

Like, you don't hit all of our criteria either, but.

[Amanda Thomas]

Right.

[Andrea Jin]

But it's like I chose you and.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Andrea Jin]

You know. Yeah.

[Coco]

I don't go out there and I'm like, hey, just a reminder. Like, you're ugly.

[Jenna]

But no, I'm a big proponent of like when you're searching for someone, like, you make budget cuts. Like, you know, like.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

It's like, honestly, it's like buying a house. You don't get all the things that you want.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

It's a great house. Was not the best neighborhood.

[Jenna]

Right.

[Amanda Thomas]

It was a really good price. We're gonna renovate it.

[Coco]

I would say if it hits at least like 70 to 75% of your wants, like, that's a. That's a good cat for me.

[Amanda Thomas]

Of course. I completely agree.

[Coco]

Right.

[Amanda Thomas]

I don't think you get it all. Yeah.

[Coco]

And I don't think anyone comes fully baked either.

[Amanda Thomas]

But I think that you do have to take someone for who they are. That's. That's a tough one. Like to change. Yes.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

You gotta take them for who they are.

[Jenna]

And also, what is this idea? Like they have it all or like they have everything? It's like they're still gonna be a human and they' to disappoint you. And they're going to be boring. And they're going to. It's like, it's all. It's never going to be perfect.

[Amanda Thomas]

Boring.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah, yeah. And have diarrhea sometimes it's like you're.

[Jenna]

Not going to be with someone for 20 years and not at once be like, g. Like, I'd rather go be with my friends. Or like, you know.

[Andrea Jin]

Sure.

[Coco]

I feel like I can attest to this because I dated Bobby Lee for 10 years and he is quite.

[Amanda Thomas]

I didn't know that, by the way.

[Coco]

I know is a shock.

[Amanda Thomas]

How was that experience in one word?

[Jenna]

It's like.

[Coco]

Like a circus.

[Amanda Thomas]

Okay. Yeah.

[Coco]

I love him so much. He's still one of my best friends. But I think that to most people in the world, he's quite possibly the most entertaining figure ever. Like, you can listen to him on 50 different pockets. Even if he's. If he's repeating a story, he's still entertaining.

[Jenna]

Absolutely.

[Coco]

And there are many times within that decade where he'd be telling me something which I'm sure another person would feel find so highly entertaining, where I would have, like, a glazed look over my face because I already, like, checked out. I'm like, huh, huh? And I'm not listening. So it's like. Yeah, like.

[Jenna]

Like to your point, like, you could be with the most exciting person in the world, and it's like, they're a human. You're with them all the time. Like, it's just. Reality will hit. And I feel for these people that have this, like, childlike idea of what you. The insect, literally talking directly to you.

[Andrea Jin]

I love, love them.

[Jenna]

It's like the insect will eventually disappoint you, though.

[Andrea Jin]

And he has. Yeah, it's okay because it's like kind of. It's cute.

[Amanda Thomas]

It's charming.

[Andrea Jin]

It's kind of charming. Right.

[Jenna]

Now we know. Okay.

[Coco]

This one first.

[Jenna]

So his, like, his thing was first.

[Amanda Thomas]

Round on me is if you can do the splits, which is like, that's so lame. And she said, I'm flexible, but not that flexible, I guess. First round is on you. Then how many rounds for you to get drunk so I can take advantage? Oh, my God.

[Coco]

Oh, my God.

[Jenna]

Wait, who said that?

[Amanda Thomas]

I think she did.

[Coco]

Her prompt was first round is unmoved. If the guy can do this. She's basically saying, if you're Jean Claude Van Damme.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yes.

[Andrea Jin]

Someone that can do the splits.

[Coco]

I think.

[Jenna]

I think she's just trying to be funny. I think that sometimes when normal people try to be funny, it's like. Like, it throws us all off.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Andrea Jin]

Where I'm like, wait, why do you want that?

[Jenna]

Like, what's the truth behind that?

[Coco]

Him saying I'm flexible, but not that flexible. I'm not really into flexible dudes.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah, that's kind of ick.

[Jenna]

Who is. Because flexibility is weakness.

[Andrea Jin]

And it's kind of.

[Jenna]

My PT is always telling me, I.

[Coco]

Think you're right, because my sister has a danlos.

[Andrea Jin]

Wait.

[Coco]

And she has hypermobile joints. And the amount of times that she just randomly turns, twists both ankles, doing nothing, doing nothing. Like, she could be in bed with, like, her feet up and her ankles will twist. So, like, hypermobility is not good. You're right.

[Andrea Jin]

That's supposed to be bad. That means you're weak.

[Jenna]

I don't think it's bad, but I think that it definitely correlates where if you're more flexible, you're more correlated to being weak as opposed strong. Yeah.

[Andrea Jin]

I didn't know that.

[Amanda Thomas]

Have you guys heard about men complaining about their hip flexors? Because, like, it's an epidemic.

[Jenna]

No, but that's my only personal hell. Wait, what men?

[Coco]

My partner. It's every day. It's his hip hips.

[Amanda Thomas]

The hip flexors.

[Jenna]

Why do I have that? And they're.

[Amanda Thomas]

And they're always, like, rubbing their, like, hips in the ground, trying to, like. And I'm like, push.

[Coco]

Right here, babe.

[Jenna]

Right here. Do you guys not have that?

[Coco]

You're a stiff man.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah, you're a stiff man. Straight man.

[Jenna]

Why do you guys not have that? That's, like, my whole life.

[Coco]

That's why you walk in, like, a hip opening.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yoga.

[Coco]

But you're very flexible.

[Jenna]

I do walk like. I'm, like, about to draw a gun on you.

[Coco]

You should be wearing this.

[Andrea Jin]

But flexibility is kind of gross, isn't it?

[Amanda Thomas]

You know what else you know? It's so gross. Has anyone been watching any of the baseball games?

[Coco]

Yes.

[Amanda Thomas]

They're like a man with a booty.

[Andrea Jin]

What's that?

[Amanda Thomas]

That's spooky. A man with, like, a butt.

[Jenna]

A juicy.

[Amanda Thomas]

It's really gross.

[Coco]

I actually, I think I'm okay with a butt. As long as no hips. Hips is where it's.

[Andrea Jin]

I don't like thickness of any kind.

[Jenna]

No. Yeah. Well, you.

[Coco]

So baseball guys aren't your thing?

[Amanda Thomas]

No.

[Andrea Jin]

Because the thighs are, too.

[Jenna]

I like to be.

[Amanda Thomas]

No, you're basketball, for sure. Or volleyball, maybe. No, basketball is more tall and lanky.

[Andrea Jin]

Or no muscle is fine with me, too.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah. No, nothing. Just. And you.

[Jenna]

Flexible is gross.

[Andrea Jin]

Flexible. It goes Like, I saw this TikTok of this lady being like, oh, if you can tell if you really like someone, if imagine your partner or whoever is really happy, and then they're like, oh, my God, babe. Like they just scored something on a video game or something and then they did. They did the. They did the splits. Does that give you ick or like. Or are you like, oh, my flexible king. Like, like that's the difference.

[Jenna]

My flexible key.

[Coco]

Yeah, you're so right. Because I met my partner in yoga and he did. I did. And he was in.

[Jenna]

That tim flexible king.

[Amanda Thomas]

He's a time where he can do this splits, like jungle.

[Andrea Jin]

Is there something so icky about, like, that's a guy being so happy?

[Jenna]

No, literally, Dave is always sad and I'm like, this is so hot. Everything makes him sad.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah, but if they're so ecstatic.

[Coco]

No, they cannot show joy like that. That's forbidden.

[Jenna]

You meet a guy with anesthesia. Is that what it's called? What is it where they don't experience joy?

[Coco]

That sounds great.

[Jenna]

That's what Dave has. And I don't know.

[Amanda Thomas]

That's so cool.

[Coco]

There's also another word that is to describe, like, low level depression. Not extreme depression, but just some level of it.

[Andrea Jin]

I'm the happiest when, like, the person I'm dating is like, crying. I think that's so hot.

[Jenna]

It's really masculine to just be like, down.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Coco]

And even if you are happy, like, show it in other ways. Like, you know, don't release it out.

[Jenna]

Keep it to yourself.

[Andrea Jin]

Don't show joy. Like, just smile slightly or just be.

[Coco]

Like a good person.

[Andrea Jin]

Don't even smile. I think just give me a hug or something.

[Coco]

Don't be elated.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

Don't be elated.

[Coco]

Don't be elated. I think that our.

[Amanda Thomas]

Laughs last conversation was just talking about men's bodies and what they can and can't look like. And then this is about.

[Jenna]

We're gonna get so much trouble.

[Amanda Thomas]

Literally can't be happy. And they're like, disgusting if they smile.

[Andrea Jin]

I don't like when they smile. Really.

[Coco]

When I met my partner, he was in yoga.

[Amanda Thomas]

Clock back 10 years.

[Coco]

So my partner was in yoga. And when I tell you this man looked like he was passing away because he couldn't. He couldn't even do like a butterfly like this, like in this position because of his hips. He was. He was like, like shaking and like dying. And I was like, he's a bit of me.

[Amanda Thomas]

I'm.

[Coco]

I like that guy.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Coco]

Like and there was this guy who looked like an Adonis, like, Jesus. Tall, long hair, blue eyes, like perfection. But he was flexible. And then I was like, no, no, I want that guy, like, fully passing away over there.

[Jenna]

That's a man.

[Coco]

Yeah, that's a man.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah, I think so, too.

[Amanda Thomas]

You got your man.

[Coco]

I did, yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

How do you strike up a conversation at yoga?

[Coco]

The yoga instructor was our friend in common, okay. And I think that's the only reason why he took the class, because his hip flex.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah, he needed it.

[Jenna]

Also, she was in a different city. It wasn't la.

[Coco]

It wasn't la. Yeah. It was in Hawaii, so.

[Jenna]

Because I feel like in la, it's, like, different.

[Andrea Jin]

It's snooty.

[Amanda Thomas]

I saw a cute boy at yoga the other day, and then he came out and he put chrome heart slippers on.

[Coco]

I feel like.

[Jenna]

Is he single?

[Amanda Thomas]

Does he look like? I walked in the class, I was like, like, what losers shoes are those? Because they're literally hotel slippers. I was like, he, like, walked the streets in these. And then I saw this really hot man come out and put them on. And I was like, that's bad. Pour one out for you, babe.

[Jenna]

Another one down.

[Amanda Thomas]

Another one down.

[Jenna]

Wait, did. Does Aloha know how to feed himself? Like, will he be like, it's one o', clock, I haven't eaten?

[Coco]

You know, it's funny you ask, because he's actually the person who cooks in the household since I've had, like, the baby and whatnot, right? So I've. My. My cooking has, you know, it's taken a break. Even though this man cooks me breakfast, lunch and dinner, he still doesn't know how to feed himself.

[Jenna]

Wait, that's fucked up.

[Andrea Jin]

That's crazy.

[Coco]

It's crazy how he. Even if the food is available to him, there's always some point in the day where you can see him, like, visibly stressing out because. And I'm like, hey, there's food right there. Why don't you just eat? Yeah.

[Jenna]

What's his problem?

[Amanda Thomas]

Reminders.

[Coco]

I. I don't know what it is, but I think it has to do with. They have to have full meals. Like, for me, it's like I snack along the day. I have little girl, like, you know, things here and there, they don't know how to do that.

[Amanda Thomas]

I can confirm that.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah, sounds about right.

[Amanda Thomas]

You need a full plate.

[Andrea Jin]

Full.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

It's like starving and then eating.

[Andrea Jin]

We need to sit and eat it.

[Jenna]

That's what he calls it.

[Andrea Jin]

That's cute.

[Jenna]

He's over six feet tall. He calls it eat time.

[Andrea Jin]

I love him.

[Coco]

You know, I, I. Every time you say, like, skinny insect, I think about a guy I, a girl I know who was dating a very similar guy. He was like 6 4, very successful. So tell me if this all it hits the marks for you. Very successful, cute face. But when she sent me a video of like, hey, like, we're over here, I caught this thing about him that, like, gave me the ick. And I wonder if it would give you the ick.

[Andrea Jin]

What was it?

[Coco]

So he didn't have muscles. You'd like that.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Coco]

But he sashayed away. He, the way he walked was a little bit like, like not even femme. Like, the wind could blow him away. Like, he was a little bit, like, wobbly. Not wobbly, but it was like a wave. And I was like, oh, I don't like that.

[Jenna]

Like, almost like, I think you'd like that.

[Amanda Thomas]

I don't know.

[Andrea Jin]

I kind of like.

[Amanda Thomas]

You like it?

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah, because it's like, charming.

[Jenna]

It's like you're really like a robot. It's so up.

[Coco]

Well, you can to not be dissuaded.

[Andrea Jin]

Okay. Because this is the thing. I feel like those are cute, characteristic things, you know, like that I'm like, I can learn to love.

[Amanda Thomas]

No, I actually think that's something you would you, like, love in the beginning. And then when you broke up, you'd be like, yeah, I'd be like. So you'd be like, I can't believe I even watch that.

[Coco]

Right. Like, there's like that Black Mirror episode. I think it's called Something Something the dj where you date multiple people for X amount of time. You're forced to using this, like, app and you see if, like, you're compatible or not. But there's this thing that Gu does that drives her crazy over and over again. And it's literally like he drinks, takes a sip of water, and he does it ever so slight, like, oh, my God. After he drinks. And it drives her crazy.

[Jenna]

Yeah, I love doing that. It makes my dad angry for some reason. I always do it. He like, rages out anyways.

[Amanda Thomas]

I love a little sigh.

[Jenna]

It's like. So it's like one of those, like, funny things to me to like, piss someone off. So I get why she was.

[Coco]

I think it's kind of cute when like, kids, like, they don't know how much they're drinking and they're like, yeah, that's cute.

[Amanda Thomas]

I was on a date recently and at the end I let. I didn't mean to. But I let out a giant sigh, and he was like. He's like, oh, no. Is that bad? And I was like, yeah, I think it is.

[Andrea Jin]

Wow. Yeah.

[Coco]

What is your ideal guy, and where do you find these serial killers?

[Andrea Jin]

All over.

[Amanda Thomas]

I'd say like a mix. A mix of apps and then a mix of just. Just, like, being out and about. And like, I guess the Internet.

[Coco]

I get.

[Amanda Thomas]

People slide into DMS more.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

These days, my ideal type. I love a shorter man. Okay. Like under 6 foot, salt and pepper hair, 45 plus. I like someone that has, like, a creative.

[Andrea Jin]

Ish job.

[Amanda Thomas]

I can, like, bop around and I like someone that's, like, nice and sweet. I like a cutie. I like a cutie. Sweetie.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

I don't like someone that's, like, too mean.

[Coco]

Yeah, I don't like, mean.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah, I don't either.

[Amanda Thomas]

Like, in the past, I've liked that before. I'm like, oh, I like a challenge. But now I'm like, I just want you to be nice to me.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

Like, say things.

[Coco]

How about these last two guys from Hinge?

[Andrea Jin]

Okay, we'll see.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah, let's see.

[Jenna]

Oh, my God.

[Coco]

Oh. Kind of sweet.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah, that's kind of funny. Let me.

[Coco]

Let me use your discharge as creamer in my coffee.

[Andrea Jin]

Hearts. Hearts. Pink hearts. Parts.

[Coco]

I mean, obviously I would run away from this person, but if it was. This is something. I was already in a relationship and someone said this to me, it would be acceptable. Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

You're obsessed.

[Andrea Jin]

I'd be like, that's cute.

[Amanda Thomas]

It's. Yeah.

[Jenna]

I think it's a little too much for me.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah.

[Coco]

But you're. You get grossed out by.

[Jenna]

Yeah. Like, too much love is.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

Oh, yeah. It's like, I don't want you to be so, like, beneath me in that way.

[Coco]

You think someone loving you intensely is beneath you?

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Andrea Jin]

Whoa.

[Amanda Thomas]

I kind of feel you.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

I used to complain to my therapist about one of my exes. I'd be like, he likes me too much. I'd be like, what's wrong with him?

[Jenna]

Why does he like me so much in my relationship? It's like there's, like, a healthy boundary of how much he likes me.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yes.

[Jenna]

Like, he's not, like, worshiping me at all. And I think that maybe that's what I would have thought I wanted, but now I could see that that would not be sustainable for me.

[Coco]

Yes.

[Amanda Thomas]

I was going to say sustainable is the word I was going to use.

[Jenna]

Because I would have been. I would just be.

[Coco]

Be like. Yeah, I think I Think you're right in that the worship of it all is a little bit much. And it's also. It's. You feel the pressure. I do need to know that I can't get away with shit. Like, I need to know that my partner will not put up with my.

[Jenna]

This would. This would be funny in a wedding vow. When you use your discharge like. That would be funny in a wedding vow, but that's about it.

[Andrea Jin]

All right, last but not least.

[Jenna]

Hey, this is blank from hinge. I was in jail.

[Amanda Thomas]

Lol.

[Jenna]

So couldn't reply. Sorry.

[Amanda Thomas]

Okay. Okay. Hot or not, I.

[Coco]

If it was prison. Hot. Jail.

[Amanda Thomas]

Yeah. What's jail, Drunk Tank?

[Coco]

Something, you know, not time.

[Amanda Thomas]

Something minor.

[Coco]

Yeah, something minor like you were intoxicated in public or something, which is embarrassing.

[Jenna]

You don't have to say, I was in jail.

[Coco]

But if he was like, I was in prison. I was in the can for this, I'd be like, okay.

[Andrea Jin]

And he said, I was in jail. Lol. That's kind of.

[Amanda Thomas]

What do you think?

[Andrea Jin]

Self awareness. You know, what do you think he went for? It's hard to.

[Amanda Thomas]

Disorderly conduction.

[Coco]

Like dui. Dui. You go to jail, you get a job. Tank.

[Jenna]

My dad went to jail for scalping tickets.

[Coco]

I thought you meant scalping.

[Amanda Thomas]

My mom went to jail.

[Andrea Jin]

For what?

[Amanda Thomas]

Someone tried to deport her.

[Jenna]

What the. Yeah.

[Amanda Thomas]

And she went to jail. She was, like, fully dressed up at a Christmas party. And then she went and asked if they had People magazines, magazine, behind bars. They were like. Because she didn't know. Like, she didn't know how long she was going to be there. And she was like, do you guys have People magazine? Cute.

[Jenna]

We deport her. To where?

[Amanda Thomas]

Australia. But she didn't get deported. She got to stay. But it was crazy. They got. They picked her up at her holiday. This was, like, in the 80s. They picked her up at her holiday work party fully dressed up and put her behind bars.

[Coco]

Oh, my God.

[Amanda Thomas]

She got snacks, though.

[Andrea Jin]

Okay.

[Jenna]

Yeah, okay.

[Amanda Thomas]

Like, special snacks.

[Jenna]

Really? The white woman snacks?

[Amanda Thomas]

Okay.

[Jenna]

This has been so much fun. Amanda, Your stories are. You're, like, literally an LA icon.

[Amanda Thomas]

Thank you so much.

[Jenna]

Please keep going at it and coming back. I think that's all that we have time for today. We're going to take the rest of this episode over to the Patreon. If you guys want to hear that, there's a link below. Or go to patreon.com Trash Tuesday podcast and we'll see you there. And as always, we'll see you next week with a brand new episode. Thank you, Andrea, Jen and Amanda Thomas. Check out Amanda's jewelry line. Love, A.J.

[Andrea Jin]

Yeah.

[Coco]

Yay.

[Jenna]

Okay, bye, guys.