Bears, Babies, Brooke Schofield ft. OutdoorAnthony

Summary

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Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn

Episode: Bears, Babies, Brooke Schofield ft. OutdoorAnthony

Date: March 24, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Trash Tuesday brings together hosts Khalyla Kuhn and Esther Povitsky with guest Brooke Schofield and special survivalist OutdoorAnthony. The conversation is quintessential Trash Tuesday: an energetic, deeply candid mix of personal updates, wild hypotheticals, and facts both bizarre and surprisingly practical. Topics range from pregnancy timelines and online posting anxieties to wildlife encounters, survival tactics, and the art of wiping in the woods—all delivered with the show’s trademark blend of self-deprecation, humor, and genuine curiosity.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up with the Hosts & Guest

• Brooke's Life Updates: Brooke shares she's been off the air for over three months, recently got engaged, moved into a new home, and is planning to elope with just her fiancé. (03:05)
• Baby Fever: Brooke discusses wanting to have a baby soon, shifting from "maybe in five years" to actively planning for one this year, influenced by friends having kids. (05:43)
  • "As soon as I decided, like, I could do this, I was like, well, we have to go. Right." – Brooke (05:56)
• Motherhood Reflections: Esther and Khalyla share their experiences with marriage, pregnancy, and the pressure/expectation of forming a "proper family." (03:14 - 06:14)
• Naming Babies: Naming a boy is "the hardest thing ever." Both the challenge and the emotional resonance are discussed. (08:05)

2. Marriage & Ring Talk

• Engagement Rings: Honest takes on being direct with partners about ring preferences.
  • "I told him 100% exactly what I wanted and he copied it exactly." – Brooke (11:42)
• ‘Awkward Proposals’: Khalyla hilariously recounts Bobby Lee’s less-than-romantic pseudo-proposal and the strange gift of a “regal” jade ring bought during a relapse. (12:24 - 14:24)
• Jewelry & Meaning: Sentimental value is key; negative associations kill the vibe for wearable pieces. (14:24)

3. Wellness Tech & Metrics

• Oura Ring Rants: The crew swap stories about sleep trackers and how the metrics can psych them out.
  • “Every morning I wake up and I check my sleep score and I'm like, this is how I know if my day will be good or bad.” – Khalyla (16:15)
• Calorie-Burn Comparison Gripe: Frustration with male burn rates vs. female stats (“Men, their calorie burn is on a different level. I hate it.” – Esther, 15:35)
• Is Tracking a Net Positive?: Debating whether all this self-measurement makes people happier or more anxious.

4. Health & The Anxiety Spiral

• Mold Mania: Viral stories about mold-sniffing dogs spark paranoia about home air quality and health. (19:30)
  • “I could still have mold. And at the time, I'm having, like, stuffy nose. I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I have a little bit of a leak in the ceiling. I'm like, I have to throw the whole house away, so I cut my whole ceiling open.” – Brooke (20:35)
• Skin Checks: Stress about cancer leads to candid talk about regular dermatologist visits, tanning-beds, and family cancer scares. (21:46 - 23:40)

5. Family, Siblings, and Childhood

• Mixed Families: Brooke shares her unique blended-family background and how it affects her desire for family. Khalyla and Esther also discuss siblings with different parents. (25:38)
• Cute Kidspeak: Sweet moments discussing Esther’s daughter and the words she invents for her parents. (24:09 - 24:46)

6. Old Roles and Career Throwbacks

• Esther’s TV Cameos: Mention of ‘New Girl’, ‘Parks and Rec’, and being the go-to "over-18 to play teen" actress. (26:13)

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Survival Segment with OutdoorAnthony

1. Survival Basics & Go-Bags (starting ~34:47)

• What’s In Your Car Kit?: Practical items for an emergency in the woods: running shoes, whistle, radio, electrolytes, canned food, warmth layers, and an emergency blanket.
• Candy and Survival: Sour Patch Watermelon for blood sugar—potentially life-saving for diabetics. (38:23)

2. Wildlife Encounters

• Coyotes: No real threat to people, but pick up your small dog and be loud. Coyotes are "wimps." (41:02)
• Bears: Most bears in the US are black bears; be big, yell, and the bear will likely back off.
  • "I had people's kindergartners or preschoolers... say 'I love you bear!' at the top of their lungs. And the bear goes like, 'oh, boy.'" – OutdoorAnthony (45:01)
• Mountain Lions: Never turn your back; maintain eye contact, walk backwards, and be loud. (60:19)
• Rattlesnakes: Stamp your feet to warn them, be aware of where you put your hands and feet. Most bites occur by accident, not aggression. (62:04)
• Rabies: Once symptoms start, mortality is almost certain; get shots ASAP after any potential exposure. (63:12)
• Hantavirus & Cleaning Rodent Droppings: Wet surfaces before cleaning to avoid airborne virus particles. (65:14)

3. Outdoor Hygiene

• Wiping in the Woods: Best options are soft, fuzzy leaves (like mullein), river stones, or if desperate, carefully whittled sticks. The "third world squat" is the most natural position. (50:04 - 53:31)
• Practical Demo: OutdoorAnthony shows possible “wiping stones” and DIY techniques.

4. How to Make Fire

• Methods: Flint/magnesium rods, dry kindling (collected through the day), and even high-magnification reading glasses. Practical skills demonstrated. (54:32 - 57:39)

5. Dangerous Creatures & Miscellaneous Facts

• Apes/Chimps: Never own as pets—aggression manifests after puberty. (48:53)
• Tarantulas & Spiders: Trapdoor tarantulas create wild little lairs—fascinating, mostly harmless.
• Sharks Older Than the North Star: “A species of shark is older than the North Star.” (70:04)
• Diet: Chipotle burrito is the ultimate day-hike snack; always pack chapstick or “nipple butter” for multi-day trips (“Best chapstick on Earth.” – Esther, 71:22)
• Women as Evolutionary Superiors: Taste, smell, vision, color discernment, and multi-tasking are all strongly in women’s favor, per evolutionary science. (71:55 - 73:41)
• Hot Showers Debate: Female need for scalding water is due to hormone differences; male lower heat tolerance is tied to protecting sperm. (74:38 - 75:49)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “No one's been mean to me in so long...every single time I open my phone, it's just like...silence.” – Brooke (00:44)
• “I want brands to like me. I don't care about you [the followers].” – Brooke (01:42)
• “If you see a coyote walking around, it's a great opportunity to see a coyote. Really, there's not really any danger with them.” – OutdoorAnthony (41:02)
• “I finished my book and then I was like, I'm not gonna happen here tonight.” – OutdoorAnthony describing how he reacted to a mountain lion encounter (61:03)
• "You can get that thing soaking wet. It's not like a lighter where it has a limited number...I've had that ferro rod for years.” – OutdoorAnthony on fire-starting tools (57:23)
• "Women are second to none. Like, we are just meat patties that get thrown into the world but you guys have an incredible, like, receptive natures..." – OutdoorAnthony, on female senses (72:35)
• “Why do women want to scald their skin in the shower?" —"Mother of dragon style!” – Esther & Khalyla (74:38)
• "I think that [cockroaches] are gods at this point. That's why I'm afraid of them. I'm afraid of pigeons and I'm afraid of God too." – Khalyla (67:15)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Brooke's update & baby talk: 00:19 - 07:28
• Ring/engagement stories: 11:06 - 14:24
• Sleep trackers & wellness tech: 15:05 - 16:21
• Mold paranoia & skin checks: 19:30 - 23:40
• Family & siblings: 25:38 - 26:32
• Survival Q&A with OutdoorAnthony: 34:47 - 79:19
  • Go bag/car kit: 37:34
  • Wildlife safety (coyotes, bears, mountain lions): 41:02 – 61:30
  • Fire making demonstration: 54:32 – 57:39
  • Rabies, Hantavirus, rodent-borne diseases: 63:12 – 65:46
  • Women as superior survivors: 71:55 – 73:41

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Tone & Takeaways

This episode is classic Trash Tuesday: brash, honest, full of TMI, but always underpinned by a sense of camaraderie and curiosity. The audience gets both laughs and genuinely usable survival info (plus urban legends debunked and confirmed). The dynamic between the hosts, their guest Brooke, and survivalist OutdoorAnthony keeps things playful and authentic, with plenty of interruptions, asides, and funny throwaways to keep sluggies entertained.

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Follow Links

• Trash Tuesday Instagram
• Trash Tuesday TikTok
• YouTube
• Khalyla Kuhn
• Esther Povitsky

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For listeners new and old, this episode is a must for both Trash Tuesday energy and surprisingly practical survival hacks you never knew you needed (and maybe still kind of don’t).

Transcript

[A]

Do you do, like, survival lessons?

[B]

Yeah. So a lot of it has to do with, like, how to hand whistle outside. Like, you could do that.

[A]

Stop.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

That was so exciting.

[D]

This is where I'm. I don't know how to whistle even plainly.

[C]

I don't even know how to wink. I can't wink either.

[B]

I can't wink.

[C]

No. What's new with you? What's going on? Because you've been off the air.

[A]

I have been. I've officially been off the air for like three and a half months. Actually, I came on here more recently than I came on or than I was on Canceled. Because I think our last episode that we all shot together was after the last.

[D]

That's right. Are you having withdrawals? Are you feeling like you want to know?

[A]

I'm not at all. I, like, I miss it. Definitely. Like, I love to have, like, a long form situation, but I am so. No one's been mean to me in so long.

[C]

We need to change that.

[A]

No, seriously, like, every single day, I used to wake up my, like, and open my phone, and it was just like, my heart would sink. And now every single time I open my phone, it's just like. And silence.

[C]

You've since started a posting account.

[D]

I did.

[C]

You're. You literally just responded like, I told you you're pregnant. I am.

[A]

It's because I. Like, at what point is it like, I'm my main account? Like, the videos that I was posting, the quality was just like, if I were any sort of brand, I would be like, we're not working with this girl.

[C]

Really? Because I am actually anti posting account. I know. Like, I love that you have it and you have this safe space, but I. I do wish that people would just do it all in one place. Because if we like you, we like you, and we want to see it all.

[A]

Yeah, but I want brands to like me. I don't care about you.

[D]

Yeah. I feel like you're a very, like, you're a different story. Like, you are. Everyone knows you're just, you know, a permanent post. No, you're. You're so painfully harmless. Like, she's so harmless. Like, you can't. And she also looks like a child. Like, you can't be mad at her for longer than, like, 20 seconds.

[C]

Is too pretty to, like, you're too hot.

[A]

Stop.

[D]

You are also very pretty. But, you know, you have, like, the. The essence of like a, you know, ugly little boy.

[A]

No, you're like a cutesy little girl.

[E]

Thank you.

[A]

Also, I'm so obsessed with your every single time you post your daughter, I like have a strok. So cute.

[C]

That's so nice.

[A]

And she would not be more identical to you. Like you guys.

[D]

I know you guys.

[C]

You know. You know my husband though. She's him here.

[D]

I do see Dave now as she's gotten older, I do see like a mix of you both.

[C]

She's like exactly. Copy paste him here and copy paste me here. Which is like the dream. She's I. I love her so much.

[D]

But her eye color is yours.

[C]

No, she's like in between cuz he's brown and I'm like, I don't know what I am. I say I'm gray, but that's a lie for attention.

[D]

Yeah, that's such like a me.

[C]

Wait, so okay, so you re. So you moved into a new home, you're engaged, you're not having a wedding?

[A]

I am having a wedding. It's just only him and I are going to be there. Okay, so we're eloping.

[C]

That's what we did.

[D]

Gosh. That's how to do it. I really, really feel like that's the only route I could do.

[C]

And you're doing it before you have a baby, unlike us. So we just had to like race back home to our baby and we didn't get to stay overnight.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Wa.

[A]

How long before you got married did you have your baby?

[C]

So we were engaged for a while and I was just like lazy about that. And then we had our baby and then I was like, we have to get married. Like this is. We have to be a family. And so I just decided that six months I wanted to get married on her like six month birthday. So we just picked that day and we just, we were walk ins at the courthouse. Like we didn't even have an appointment.

[D]

Really.

[C]

Yeah, we just walked in and it worked out. It was really like we just waited in line like it was pretty chill.

[D]

Guys, I do think that that's a very specific window of time, like right after you give birth. And the first six months I think your brain does something to you where you think we have to get married because I felt the same way. But then I'm like, I wrote it out. So now I'm like past the year and I don't feel as strongly. You don't know. But I know that feeling of like, we have to be a family, you cannot die. Like we have to figure this unit out.

[A]

No, we had that moment like honestly a couple of weeks ago because I haven't been excited about getting married. Like, not that I'm not excited to marry him, but I just am so uninterested in the actual.

[C]

Yeah, that's how I was too, before.

[A]

But a couple of weeks ago, we were just like, let's just go do it. So we made our appointment. But our appointment, we had to make it in advance. I didn't even know you could walk in.

[C]

So hard to get an appointment, do you think? Because I feel like you actually are into babies. Like, is that going to happen soon? Are you going to wait?

[A]

I hope it's going to happen soon, honestly.

[C]

Oh my God.

[A]

I know. I feel like last time I talked to you guys, I was like, no, babies are far away. I don't know what happened between then and now. I think I. A ton of my friends started having babies in a row and every time I was around one, I was like, I could have one of these. And so now I. I feel differently about it.

[C]

It's so contagious.

[D]

It is contagious.

[A]

Now I'm like, now that I'm reading and stuff, it's like kind of hard to get pregnant.

[D]

Don't buy into that mindset yet because you have no reason to believe otherwise. Right?

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[D]

Yeah. So I would say don't borrow the bad news until.

[C]

Yeah, it's a lot of conversation for a good reason. Like, I'm really glad that women talk about that a lot. Like, I think it's like the best thing, but it doesn't mean that it's everyone and it doesn't mean that it's like majority even.

[A]

You know, I guess I just, you know, your whole life they tell you like, it's so you can get pregnant anytime. And I didn't realize it was like such a tiny little window that you.

[D]

Small window, yeah. Which makes it even cooler that you, like, when you get it right, you're like, woo, we did that.

[C]

Nailed it. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So I, I would love. Honestly, I know I want to have a baby this year.

[C]

What? Do you hear this? Oh my God.

[D]

Oh my God.

[C]

This is so crazy.

[D]

I thought maybe within five years was

[A]

like, no, I want to change now

[C]

that I know this year.

[A]

Well. It's like, you know when you like decide you want to change your hair and it's like, it's not enough to get it done two months from now. Like, I have to go tomorrow. That's how I feel about it. As soon as I decided, like, I could do this, I was like, well, we have to go. Right.

[D]

By the way, kind of great timing Because I always think your pregnancy timeline is great.

[C]

You're.

[D]

You hit your third trimester in the winter, so you're not. Like, I made a mistake. I gave birth when it was the hottest summer in California, and I was a cow, and I. It was like walking through molasses. Don't do that. Don't do my timeline.

[C]

I just want to say, trying to control the timeline.

[D]

True.

[C]

True is a foolish game that I played that didn't. I didn't win, and any time is good.

[A]

No, but I would be lying if I said that I hadn't thought about it, because I thought about. I really want. I would love to be like. Like, have a big belly in the summer so that I could, like, be in a bikini with a big belly. Because everyone's like, oh, that's so cute. But, like, if you just gave birth and you're in a bikini, you just feel bad.

[C]

Yeah, I don't.

[A]

Also, who cares?

[C]

I don't own a bikini, so I'm fine. I'm safe. Marked, safe from bikini.

[D]

I was in a bikini up until the very end and can't say, you know what. Felt okay. Felt pretty. Like, cute in it. Took pictures. And I look back now, and I'm like, I'm so glad I was in the bikini.

[A]

That's what I'm thinking. I just think a bump is, like, the cutest thing ever. Like, you look so cute.

[D]

I think so, too.

[C]

You. I would think this if I wasn't pregnant, but because I'm pregnant and miserable, I'm like, you guys are disgusting. Like, this is awful.

[A]

You telling me you're eight months is insane. I mean, I guess you're, of course, like, really tiny, but, like, that's insane. It looks a little small. It's not big. Like, it's. I mean, there's a baby.

[C]

There is a baby, but, like, I

[A]

feel like you'll just.

[C]

Do you have a gender preference?

[A]

Of course I do. No offense.

[D]

I know people get really worked up about it, but I. I don't give a. When people are like, hey, you want what you want. I don't care.

[C]

No.

[A]

Only because I have a name for a girl and I don't have a name for a boy.

[D]

That is a real thing, though. Naming a boy was the hardest thing ever. I didn't. My baby didn't have a name for two days.

[A]

Really?

[C]

I didn't know that. Yeah.

[D]

It was a baby boy. Because I. I couldn't. I'm like, I can't. And then one day I woke up, and I was like, oh, I think this is him. Like. And then I cried and it felt like him. I held him. I'm like, this is who he is.

[A]

Oh, that's special. It's nice to, like, meet him before you gave him a name. Because what if you give him a name and he. You're like, this is not a Carl I'm having.

[C]

You know, I'm having a boy.

[A]

I know, but you, that's so good. You'll have one of each.

[C]

That's what people say, but, you know, you don't mean it.

[A]

I. I mean it. No. I think a lot of my friends are boy moms and they love it. I just, I'm afraid. I don't know. I just. I want a girl so bad.

[C]

Yeah, I, I didn't have a preference because I didn't think about it because my first pregnancy was a miscarriage. So my second, I was just so anxious that I was gonna lose a pregnancy that I didn't think about gender once. But when I got the call that I was a girl, I was like, oh, yes, life makes sense. And then when I found out this was a boy, I was like, there's been a mistake.

[A]

No, it's going to be so exciting. You're going to love it. I think I just, I crave like a mother daughter dynamic so much that I just want.

[C]

Did you. Were you disappointed when you got the news of the gender?

[D]

No, I was so sick and vomiting every hour that I didn't care about anything.

[A]

Is there a difference? People say there's like, you get sicker with one another, you know, in hell for both. Really?

[D]

Yeah. That's. Everything's a lie. Everything here is a lie. I'll say that there are women that just really power through pregnancy with no symptoms, and I suspect you'll be one of them.

[A]

I don't. I. I fall victim to everything.

[C]

I'm so curious. Because she's young.

[A]

I'm going to put you in a great high. Be the first to know.

[D]

I feel like you're a tank, though. I feel like you could just. You would just.

[A]

I can't power through. I'm a complainer. I complain about everything all day long.

[C]

But some women, like, feel good.

[D]

Really? Yeah.

[C]

So you could.

[A]

It's not.

[C]

It's actually the best indicator is if, you know what, how your mom handled pregnancy.

[A]

I don't know much about that.

[D]

That wasn't true for me because my mom experienced zero nausea. Like, nothing. And I'm so much younger than she was. We had a 20 year age difference. So I think that's, that's, that's huge. I felt really good mentally. Like, I felt like I was in control, that I was invincible. But my body didn't follow necessarily. But I was like, oh, I like the way I'm. I was telling my therapist of like, if they could just like figure out what this concoction is and then give that to me after pregnancy, I think I would be a happy person forever.

[A]

That's so interesting. That's what I worry about a lot because I'm already a little like crooked in the brain.

[C]

Hell yeah. We're not on this. Funny breaks for no reason.

[A]

100. I don't know. I'm. I'm hopeful.

[C]

Wait. Okay. I have a question about actually, like, about engagement rings. Because you're engaged. You're like in a pretty serious relationship.

[D]

Domestic partnership. Okay.

[C]

Yeah. It feels like it's so awkward. Like there's so much potential for an awkwardness of like the ring being acquired because, like, is he gonna get what you like? What if you hate it? Because I was just listening to this girl talk about this and she's like, I know he's getting the wrong thing and I don't know what to do. Like, I want this to be a ring I like and it's not going to be. And she like, literally doesn't know what to do. And I'm just curious, like, would you straight up say this is exactly what I want? Would you just let him go for it? What did you. What happened in your situation?

[A]

I told him 100% exactly what I wanted and he copied it exactly.

[C]

Okay. I think that's like kind of the only way to do it.

[A]

Yeah. Well, we just talked about it so much, but I made a Pinterest board and I, like, I thought that I had like a vibe of ring I wanted, but then every single one that I was posting was exactly the same. So my best friend went with him and they just. It was exact. It was exactly what I wanted.

[C]

I feel like if it's not that, like, you're just. It's scary. It's too scary.

[A]

You have to just say you have to wear it every day.

[C]

I don't know, do you have thoughts on this or.

[D]

There has to be some like back channel communication with my sister and she has to be communicating with me if we're trying to make it like, you know, a romantic style still. But yeah, at the end of the day, like, if I'm wearing that, it has to be something I really want.

[E]

I think.

[C]

Wait, what was the story of what happened when Bobby was going to propose.

[D]

Like, he, like, when he got high,

[C]

he, like, threw a ring.

[D]

Oh, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he threw something at you, was

[C]

like, get a ring.

[D]

What do you mean, propose? He. He was, like, on his way to a trip. I think he was right about to leave to Budapest, and he was like, oh, you should plan a wedding. And he's like, bye. I'm like, that's not how you propose to somebody. No, I brought it up in therapy. And she was like, what is wrong with you? But then I was so stupid. I was like, oh, I guess I should. And then I went and found, like, a jewel. It was like a whole backwards thing. It wasn't until, like, a couple weeks in, I was like, wait, this feels wrong. And then he came back from Budapest, and I was like, are we gonna get married? He's like, I guess. He's like, can you plan something? I'm like, oh, my God. I. I. Yeah, I think that was the beginning of, of, of. Of the end. I was like, okay, you're addicted to

[A]

porn, and I think you hate when that happens.

[D]

Yeah, I hate when you're addicted porn. You can't propose properly. Like, this is hurting my feelings. This is really hurting my feelings.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

So is there a possibility of this occurring in your life, in this current administration?

[D]

Oh, in this current administration? I don't know. I don't know. I'd like it. I'd like for it, too, but, you

[A]

know, you want to be married again? For sure.

[D]

I've never been married.

[A]

Oh, you never got. Oh, thank God.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, we never. We never.

[A]

I was worried there for a.

[D]

But he did get high when he relapsed. He got hot, really, really high one time and bought me a ring. And. And now that I look back at it, it is beautiful, but it's not something I can wear every day. It's like this beautiful, like, jade, like, with diamonds around. But it's like. It's like for an old, regal Chinese woman.

[C]

Oh.

[D]

In her 80s.

[C]

Can I have it?

[D]

I mean, I love looking at it. I know, I know it's beautiful. It's. And. But he. I. I associate it to a time where he relapsed, so I don't see. Oh, yeah. What a thoughtful gift.

[C]

Jewelry really needs meaning. And you know me, I don't believe in ghosts. I don't believe in, like, pretty much anything. I'm, like, a religious in every way. But for some reason, I cannot wear a piece of jewelry if it has any like, negative context.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, I bought this when I was, like, feeling this. No, I can't wear it. Like, I really need. Or I need to, like, reinvent it or something. It needs to be meaningful. Do you feel like that?

[A]

I do, but I don't know. Is that an aura ring I see on your fingers? I don't like the meaning behind that.

[C]

Why? I love it.

[A]

I just got one for Christmas. I was so excited about it. I honestly, I wanted it for natural cycles so that I could like, oh,

[C]

my God, she's really on. She's real. She's real.

[A]

You know, you just get obsessive on tick tock. But I'm pissed. Every. Every two seconds, it's telling me, get up and stretch your legs. I'm like, I've been sitting down for two minutes, first of all. And I know you're not saying that to my fiance next to me, so. What the fuck are you talking about? It's so frustrating. Also, we yesterday, I swear to God, we did exactly the same things. We were running around all day, and then I check he's burned 400 calories. I burned 90.

[D]

I know. Doesn't that suck? I hate being on a bike. When I used to cycle a lot and seeing someone cycle Apple Watch, and I'm like, 800 fucking calories. There's no way in hell I worked harder than you. And I burned two. Like, this is not. It's infuriating men, their calorie burn is on a different level. I hate it.

[C]

It's like, once you cross over into being an aura user, there's no going back. And it's almost like, I do I want to encourage others to go in, or do I want them to be stay in peace?

[D]

Are you someone who, like, likes to know metrics all the time about everything? They'll see. Like, that gives me anxiety. I can't.

[C]

You don't think it gives me an. Of course it does.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Every morning I wake up and I check my sleep score and I'm like, this is how I know, like, if my day will be good or bad. I know.

[A]

I'm wondering if that's like a placebo situation. Cause sometimes I'll feel like I got good sleep and then I'll see, like, a 50 sleep score. And I'm like, day's ruined.

[C]

Yeah. No. And then I go by that and not how I feel.

[A]

I don't know. I haven't decided yet if it's. If it should stay in my. Also, it doesn't fit my other hand. And Like, I can't keep wearing it with my engagement ring. It looks like, like really awful.

[C]

It kind of does not look right.

[A]

Well, I woke up sometimes it fits, but only like at the end of the day after I've sweat.

[C]

The Oura ring is definitely a. It can be an eyesore at times. I feel that.

[A]

I feel like just now that I've gotten it, they're gonna come out with one that's like half the size. That's what always happens to me. I'll get it a version of something and then immediately something better will come out.

[C]

But I like the chunkiness of it too. I don't know. I'm really.

[F]

I have a.

[C]

Me and aura are very complicated. It's love, hate all around.

[D]

I have something really stupid to confess. Oh, I didn't know that someone can say I ran a marathon, but then not run the whole way. Like they can rest and walk and you can still say I finished a marathon. Does that make sense?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I thought this whole time for someone to say I ran a marathon means that they had to run Beginning to end, 26.2, whatever it is, miles. Or else you cannot say you ran a marathon.

[C]

That's so you. To think that it's like a marathon is like a party.

[A]

Honestly, if I walked a 15 minute mile for 26 miles, I would still be like, I would not be able to function for weeks.

[D]

Same, same. I. Yeah, walking 26 miles is. Is still very much like achievement. But I just didn't know that you could rest and relax. Because when I did triathlons when I was 12 and forced into them, I crashed my bike, I was bleeding down. Like my legs were bleeding and I did not stop.

[A]

Wait, so you were involved and you didn't know? Like you?

[D]

Yes, I did triathlons when I was young because my mom was like. Because I was a swimmer and she was just like, well, here, here's another sport and you better not fail. And so I did triathlons and I was so young and it was so hard on my body. But in my head I thought, if I don't run the whole way, if I stop and rest, it doesn't count. No one told me no way that you could chill the out and enjoy it.

[C]

I'll tell you what, I always knew

[A]

that I was like in school, like when we ran the mile, I cheated or I like would stop every single time, make up every possible ailment I could possibly have.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

I don't think I ever consistently ran the whole mile once.

[C]

But you're fit now.

[A]

No. Yeah, it's. No, it's a facade.

[C]

I've seen the Aloe Gym videos.

[A]

Pilates is different because it's, like, it's hard, but it's.

[D]

It's.

[A]

You know, it's not. I have no endurance whatsoever.

[C]

I don't know. I'm impressed with what I've been seeing. Yeah, I'm definitely. I. I want to be you.

[A]

Well, I tried because you know how much I want to go on the challenge. So I was like, I gotta have some level of endurance. Well, a serious level of endurance if I want to go on the challenge. I tried to run a mile around my neighborhood, and I was like, this is. I'm a mess. I have to try again in three years.

[C]

Did you guys see this? So it's been going viral the last, like, week. This influencer, Victoria Par. Her house that she's renting, she got a mold dog, which I never knew this existed. There is a dog that you can, like, invite to your home, and he sniffs around, and, like, if he does a certain, like, signal, that means that he smells mold in your house.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

And she had this dog come because her and her girlfriend were really sick, and he was, like, doing the signals everywhere. And then I feel like it spinned everyone out into thinking that everyone online has mold and you're. What's your. What's going on?

[A]

I feel victim. Victim to it too.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Because she.

[A]

At first, like, she had an inspection, and they just found it under her sink. And then they. They fixed it, and they were like, no more mold. The actual mold inspector. So. And then, of course, when the mold dog came, they found out, like, her whole house had mold. So then I had a mold inspection when I bought my house. But now I'm thinking, like, oh, I could still have mold. And at the time, I'm having, like, stuffy nose. I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I have a little bit of a leak in the ceiling. I'm like, I have to throw the whole house away, so I cut my whole ceiling open.

[D]

You okay? I do know that black mold is a thing. I do know that. You know, you can. And whatever it can cost, like, severe illness. But isn't. Have we gone a little too far with the mole mold conspiracies?

[C]

I hope so.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

Because now it's like, everything is just because of mold. And aren't there levels to the game? Like, aren't isn't some mold, right?

[C]

Like, there's supposedly there's mold everywhere. And then I was once talking to this contractor, and he was like. Like, in London, every single house is covered in mold and nobody cares. I don't know what the right answer is. Like, it's. But it is so scary to think that, like, the walls of your home are killing you. Like, I don't. That's, like, such a. Like, it just brings up such deep fear.

[A]

Yeah. I was honestly, like. I don't want to say hopeful, but, like, I've been feeling so just, like, lethargic all the time that I'm like, maybe if I have mold, I can fix it and I'll feel amazing, But I think it's just because I eat Arby's.

[C]

But. So you open your ceilings and then what happened?

[D]

Yeah, we open.

[A]

Well, we really opened them up to fix the leak. But then I was hoping while they were in there, they could be like, there's mold or there's not mold.

[B]

You can go to the doctor, you can get it tested, and it'll show up in your.

[C]

Is that real, Kalila?

[D]

I actually don't know too much about mold.

[A]

Yeah, I got tested yesterday. I went to the dermatologist for the first time.

[C]

What'd you get tested for?

[A]

Well, I was. I convinced myself, of course, that I have melanoma. I had, like, a little mole on my back that I've been watching closely for a little while. But I remember looking at it recently, and I was, like, got a little bigger, a little darker.

[C]

What'd they say?

[A]

They just sliced them all out. They sliced one off the back of my leg out of here.

[D]

It's a biopsy. Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Everyone should get their skin checked at the dermatologist every year. Have them observe all your little spots.

[D]

And just because you have melanin or you're a melanated person, you still need to get your skin checked. Because I have friends who are beautifully dark skinned and they've had, like, melanomas, so.

[A]

Really?

[D]

Well, I was.

[A]

I used to do tanning beds for, like, a long time.

[D]

I didn't even need it. I just did it because it was, like, culturally the thing to do in the 2010s. With your little, like, Playboy sticker.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And it had to.

[A]

It just makes your skin nicer. Me trying to, like, testify. It makes, like. Like for psoriasis and stuff. It's good. I don't even have psoriasis, but I. I was just so afraid. And I'm. I'm looking obviously on tick tock, like, what does melanoma look like? And I'm telling you, like, that it Was. It was exactly what it looked like

[D]

when you get results.

[A]

Two weeks.

[C]

My mom and my sister both had basal cell carcinoma, which is extremely common and usually ends up on your face. And so I'm like, just try to tell everyone to be really strict about going to the derm. Because it can these things, like, look normal? Yeah. It's really sketchy for some people.

[A]

It's literally just the tiniest freckle. Like, perfectly uniform.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's so strange.

[C]

But for both of them, it was just a surgery to, like, shave it out and then get sewn back up and they're fine.

[A]

Yeah. I'm hoping it's just, like, a regular mole or something, but. Yeah, I mean, now it's gone.

[D]

It's one of my son's first words.

[C]

Melanoma right here.

[D]

He always smiles. He goes, mole.

[C]

Do you have a mole there?

[D]

Yeah, a big one.

[C]

Oh, that. Okay. You didn't know where it was.

[D]

You're like, right here. Because there's another one here. And he makes me turn my head, and he goes, mole.

[A]

That's so cute. How much are you talking about it that he like.

[D]

Yeah, because one time he pointed at it. He tried to pick it off like it was dirt. And I was like, no, that's mama's mole. And now it's, like, his whole thing. He likes it.

[C]

That's so cute. He started saying yellow, and the way she says it is, like, yellow, and it just, like, kills me. Like, it is the most. The best feeling I've ever had here. So I'm. All day, I'm like, what color is this? And just so I could hear yellow.

[D]

I love the way she says bye. She goes, nano.

[C]

Yeah. She has her own language. She's so baba. But she can. I've said this before. She can say mama. It just doesn't mean me. It means more. She wants more food. So I'm Baba or Bapo.

[D]

You do look like a bapo.

[C]

Yeah. No, I. When. When she said it, I was like, I get it. Yeah. I don't look like your mom. I look like Boppo.

[A]

I'm jealous.

[C]

Oh, my God. It's, like, so foreign to me that you're this, like, young, beautiful girl and you want to be a mom. Because I feel like when I was a young, beautiful, beautiful girl like you with skinny waist and big boobs, I was, like, the furthest away from wanting a child near me. No, I'm.

[A]

I want it so bad. But Also, Miles is 10 years older than me, so he doesn't want to be an old parent.

[C]

He's my husband.

[A]

No. Well, he's 39, so I don't know. I just. I feel like.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know. I've always wanted to be a mom, too. I knew always that I wanted to have kids. And especially I want to have more than one kid, so I feel like I should.

[C]

How many do you want?

[A]

Maybe, like, two.

[C]

Do you have siblings? No. Okay. I do.

[A]

I have all half siblings. Me and my sisters all have different dads, and me and my brother have different mom.

[D]

Whoa.

[A]

My mom had three kids or three kids before she was 22 with all three different guys, bless her heart.

[C]

I have. Me and my sister have different dads, too.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't have any full siblings.

[C]

Were you not raised together?

[A]

No, me and my sister were until I went with my grandparents and then we were separated. Yeah.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

But I don't know. I want, like, a family, proper family.

[C]

Yeah. I didn't know I wanted that until I had a baby and was like, oh, this is what I wanted. I didn't want any of the other stuff I thought I wanted. Like, this is what I wanted.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I want to do it so bad also. I can't believe I haven't even brought it up yet. But, like, I'm fangirling because I'm so. I'm so in my new girl phase again. I started it again. Best show ever. But I. I'm watching it late at night. Goes that Esther. And it was so good. You were on a lot of it.

[C]

I mean, look, my body was definitely very different. I can't believe you recognized me. Yeah, that was my first, like, TV gig. This happens to me a lot when people rewatch, like, New Girl, Parks and Rec workaholics. Like, I, like, had, like, four lines on, like, one episode of, like, a lot of good shows. I'm very proud of it. My 20s, because I was, like, the go to girl for, like, you need someone 18 to over 18 to play teen. Obviously. I did that really well.

[A]

I feel like you could do it now.

[C]

Thank you so much. I'm ready for the Juno sequel. Like, I'm the best candidate.

[A]

I was so excited.

[D]

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[C]

We've never done anything like this.

[D]

I'm actually really excited for this.

[C]

I'm nervous. We have Outdoor Anthony if you want to come join us.

[D]

Survival expert Brooke oh my gosh.

[F]

Amazing.

[C]

I can't think of anyone more Opposite than me.

[D]

I'm really survival expert. But I feel like you have secret survival skills that you're not willing to admit to. And I want Anthony to out you.

[C]

I would love that. He's going to have to pull them out of me because I. And you can help him. So welcome to the show, Outdoor Anthony.

[B]

Why, thank you very much. Do I clap for myself? I'm going to clap for you guys.

[C]

So will you tell us how to survive?

[B]

Yeah, totally. Have you guys gone, like, camping or anything outside adventures?

[D]

I'm not a big camper, but I free dive and I spearfish, so, yeah, so I dive.

[B]

Absolutely incredible.

[D]

But those are my only survival, like, I can get. I can procure us food from the ocean, but that's about where it ends.

[B]

That's amazing. I mean, I can't do that. I've never spearfished. I'd like to.

[A]

Do you do, like, survival lessons?

[B]

Yeah, for people. I do like, nature education videos. So a lot of it has to do with, like, how to hand whistle outside. Like, you could do that.

[A]

Stop. Oh, my God, that was so exciting.

[B]

You can, like, hum while you do it too. You go or roll.

[D]

Why do we need different whistle sounds? What are we trying to attract?

[B]

Well, I do it literally with my friends as like a signal in the wood. Like, you guys, okay, if you're all skiing down a mountain and you're. You're like, with. Out of, like, earshot of each other, just like, like, oh, yeah. And like, that's how we talk.

[D]

This is where I'm. I don't know how to whistle, even plainly. And I don't know how I, I, I'm.

[A]

You want Marco?

[C]

I don't even know how to wink. I can't walk either.

[B]

I can't wink.

[A]

No, But I'm obsessed with Survivor. I'm like, I want to, like, maybe I need to pick your brain a little bit.

[D]

You're a survivor friend.

[A]

I love it. And also, I don't know if you're familiar, but I spent all night last night watching those guys, jungle survival on YouTube. The guys who build, like, these insane.

[B]

Oh, my God, those guys in the

[A]

middle of the jungle. Yes, it is insane what they do in like, 24 hours. Not even. They'll build, like, pools and castles and, like, perfectly sound structures.

[B]

Incredible.

[A]

I'm like, like, geez, I've never even slept outside.

[B]

Yeah. And then, like, my videos are, here's how to make a fort. And it's just like the shittiest pile of sticks you've ever seen in Your life?

[A]

No, but it's so cool because like, God forbid something were to happen. Like, have you seen Lost? Yeah, Happens all the time.

[B]

We have actually some survival skill questions prepared here. Trash Tuesday. Survival skills?

[D]

Common survival related questions to see who has the best chance of survival in a dire situation. Oh, Lord.

[B]

If you want to pack a bag to keep in your car in case you crash and just go into the forest, what would you want to carry in that backpack?

[E]

Okay, I have my.

[D]

I have what I have in my back in my car.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Which is running shoes, a whistle. I don't have it yet, but one of those little. Little radio things.

[B]

Like an AM radio.

[D]

Yeah. And. And electrolytes and some canned food.

[B]

Sweet. Yeah. You've got all of them.

[A]

You have that in your car?

[D]

I used to. I just traded my. My. Usually I have like a go bag for emergencies because we had. We had to leave for the fire. So that, like, put a really bad seed in your head.

[C]

Yeah, I have a case of Sour Patch Watermelon in my trunk.

[A]

And I feel like you could survive on that for a really long time.

[D]

I really do think so. I think that's not bad, if I'm being honest.

[B]

That's part of it. And I'll tell you in a second. But that's a really good thing to have.

[A]

Yeah, right. Because your blood sugar or something.

[D]

Blood sugar.

[C]

I have.

[A]

I mean, I don't have anything in my car. What I would bring with me. Maybe like a Maglite.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just. Yeah, for sure.

[A]

That's all I got.

[D]

Make sure Pop Tarts batteries are in there.

[A]

Oh, yeah, That's a good point. Ooh, maybe like a. One of those things that shoots in the air. Like a flare gun.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Ooh, I'm bringing one of those.

[B]

I'd be down to get a flare gun.

[A]

I feel like I'd start a wildfire.

[B]

So you guys got a lot of them. That's in all different essences. Okay, so obviously the most setup I would add to your list, like, layers. Some kind of like warmth layers. Other than like an emergency blanket.

[D]

It.

[B]

Because they always say like, three days without water, three weeks without food, but literally, like one night or three hours without proper clothing and you're dead. So, like, make sure that you have a good jacket in your car at all times. Just for stuff. I mean, obviously, I live in Lake Tahoe. Like it. It's storming right now here you're probably pretty fine. You could have like a beach towel and it'd probably do the same thing.

[C]

But it does get so cold here at night.

[D]

We're both anemic.

[F]

Me too.

[A]

Also sunscreen I would bring. That's good.

[B]

And then on your point of sour patches, like, sour patches are kind of part of certain people's survival kits. Because if you're hiking in the woods and maybe there's a big disaster and there's diabetics around, see, you're a survivor.

[C]

What? They need candy?

[D]

Yes. Diabetics,

[C]

they're not supposed to have candy.

[D]

No. There's too much up and down.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[D]

Diabetics go extremely up. Extremely down down.

[B]

So it's really interesting because, like, you can actually smell if someone's over dosing on sugar by their breath.

[D]

If they're diabetes, when they become like, ketoacidotic, like, I. That's fruity.

[C]

It's worse.

[D]

I went to nursing school.

[B]

Right on.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I. I have to learn about, like DKA and all that stuff. But that smell really sets me off. And usually when someone's like, oh, I'm not. When someone is like, oh, I'm really healthy, and I'm like, no, you're not. You should check your sugars because I can smell it on you.

[C]

Will you tell me if you smell that on me?

[D]

Yeah, I will. You don't. I don't smell it on you.

[B]

I just watched one of your old reels where it's like, you're stinky and like everyone just starts smelling your armpit.

[C]

Oh, God. Are you stinky? Sometimes.

[A]

So deodorant in her bag?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't deodorant.

[C]

I need that to survive. Wait, I do have a question because I'm trying to think of, like, survival situations that realistically I'm going to get into. And some people might laugh at this, but like, what if I'm like on my late night walk and like a coyote or three are.

[D]

Are.

[C]

Are around? Like, is people say like, oh, there's no concern. Is that true? Like, should I be concerned? What should I do?

[B]

You should not be concerned. If you see a coyote walking around. It's a great opportunity to see a coyote. Really, there's not really any danger with them. If you've got a small ass chihuahua with you, strike all that. They want your chihuahua.

[C]

So what do you do? Because I have a small dog with

[B]

me, keep it on a leash. And literally, if you pick up that dog and just hold it and if you're just loud. Coyotes are wimps in like every form of the word. I like, a couple weeks ago was hiking and there's a coyote pack down on the trail that I had to go down on. And I just hid in the bushes because I was gonna prank them. And, like, as they walked up the trail, I was gonna pop out and be like, bleh.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Freaked it out. And they all ran away. That's how coyotes actually act in front of people.

[A]

I have a feeling I would be the one to try this, and I'd be the first to be just mauled.

[D]

This is really annoying when people share their dreams, but two nights ago, I had a dream that I was at Bobby's wedding, and it was in this beautiful villa. But then in, like, in the middle of the reception, someone knocks on the door, and they were like, we need Kalila. And I'm like, what do you need me for, officer? And they needed me to rescue a baby coyote. And that baby coyote became my pet at Bobby's wedding. Isn't that cute?

[C]

That is strange.

[D]

I thought it was, like, one of the cuter dreams I've had.

[C]

Really makes me wonder what's going on in there. Really makes me concerned.

[D]

I know the Lexa Pro is coming soon. Worry.

[A]

Have you guys seen, though, like, when they. That lady picked up a coyote, and she's like, I found this stray dog. Definitely. Definitely super, like, skittish. And, like, they posted on, like, their Facebook page. They're like, does this belong to anybody? And they're like, girl, that's a coyote.

[C]

They are so cute. Like, whenever I run into one, I'm like, I hate that you want to kill my dog because you're so beautiful.

[B]

It's amazing.

[A]

They get a lot of dogs and cats, though. I. I have a lady in my neighborhood with, like, the most beautiful garden, and she has her little cat out there every single day, like, gardening with her.

[C]

She.

[A]

We were, like, complimenting her, and she's like, yeah, my last two got eaten by coyotes. I'm like, take your third one inside.

[B]

Two is a trend.

[D]

Like, if you lost two cats to

[A]

coyotes, why are you bringing your third outside?

[C]

It is such an la. It's like everyone is terrified of this because it's like, we have a high fence backyard, and I've seen a coyote in my.

[D]

Oh, they can scale them.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Those fences, like, nothing. They're. They're. But I, I. I do hike a lot, and they are. I do see that they're wimps. Like, even in packs, they've never bothered me. They're kind of shy.

[C]

But you do hear about the ever so occasional bear run in. I mean, at least, like, my. Where my grandma lived in Minnesota. Like, when we would go on walks, it'd be like, look out for bears. What? What. What do you do? Are you just dead at that point?

[B]

That's one of our questions. Wow, look at you. It's like you're on point. Yeah. The.

[D]

I want to know your answer first.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

What would you do if, like, okay, it's you and Donut out in the wild, and here comes.

[C]

I've been in this situation where I'm, like, on a walk by my grandma's house in the forest, and I'm like, what? I literally was like, I don't know what I would do. I think I would just stand still and do nothing. I would. I would freeze and just wait till it eats me and hope that it can tell that I'm.

[D]

I always thought it depends on the type of bear bear, but I don't know how true that is. Tom Segura said that on one podcast, and I was like, is he correct?

[C]

No.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

Final input.

[A]

Oh, I have no idea.

[D]

But just instinctually. What would you do, bro?

[A]

Aren't you supposed to get bigger than the bear?

[C]

Do we have a shot at that?

[D]

I always see, like, on the survival shows, it's like, hey, bear, like, kind of vocalize something that I'm here. I, like, dominated. Yeah, That's. I always. I watch alone. And so that's what they say.

[C]

You ever do that, like, as role play with your partner?

[D]

I do all the time. All the time.

[C]

Time.

[D]

All the time. Because, you know, he's, like, big and bearish.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

That's one of our role plays. Thank you for outing me.

[C]

I'm not spying on you, Anthony.

[E]

What's the correct answer?

[B]

I usually tell them my credit score and they leave.

[D]

Really?

[B]

So, yeah, talk to him. Yell. Be big. Almost all bears in the southern U. S. Like, in the United States are black bears. Even if they're brown. They are categorically black bear bears. They're basically giant raccoons. If we used to teach in Minnesota, I've had to bear spray bears in Minnesota. But I used to teach kids out in the woods, and we would have bears, like, come up to us. Not come up to us, but they're just in the area. And I had, like, people's kindergartners or preschoolers, and we would teach them to say, I love you, bear, at the top of their freaking lungs. And the bear goes like, oh, boy. And they run away like coyotes and black bears. I've Had a black bear in my home. Home. Eating my spaghetti off of my kitchen counter.

[C]

What?

[B]

God.

[A]

And I'd be like, honestly, you live here now?

[B]

No, but I was in my underwear. It was like 4 in the morning. Oh, stupid. For eating. For leaving spaghetti out. But I got out and I was just filming it and I was like, dude, get the out of my house. And it. It literally, like, it looked like a cartoon. It went like, oh, boy. And like, this is like, Yogi. Yeah.

[D]

Oh, how did it get in?

[B]

And it took all of my tortilla chips.

[A]

Yeah. Did it open your door?

[B]

It opened my pantry. But to get into my house, it was so hot. It was like a hot July day up in Tahoe. And it's like really humid and hot at night there.

[A]

Oh, you wanted to bear in your house?

[B]

So my back door is open, but my screen was closed and it. It clawed open the screen.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

And then I was on a zoom call with a conservation group of people, like, talking about saving animals. And in the background of it, I didn't see it, but a bear was clawing at my window screen to get into my house. And they're like, anthony, I think there's a cat behind you. And I turn around, like, I'm sorry, it's a bear.

[D]

Bear.

[B]

And I like, turned the camera and had to, like, shoo away the bear in the middle of a conservation taco is pretty fun.

[D]

Oh.

[A]

And I feel like that makes you instantly more credible. Like, there's bears at my house.

[C]

Yeah. Are you kidding? Hell yeah.

[B]

Can't get a date, but I could get a bear in my house.

[C]

So is there ever, though, a situation? I feel like you do hear about bear attacks. What's happening?

[D]

What if we're talking about grizzly?

[B]

The California flag is a grizzly. We killed all of them in California, so there's none left. But there's a super high concentration of black bears. Bears, grizzlies, live northern. You go to Montana, then you get into Canada, and out there, biologists have to travel with a bear guard. That is a job. A bear, a dude with a gun that just follows scientists to make sure they don't get killed by bears. I applied for that job, was not accepted, but it's fine.

[A]

Just be happy. That's probably a good sign you're not going to get mauled.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Where are the grizzlies?

[B]

I would say western, northern. So, like, like Alaska, going up into that side of Canada along the Atlantic coast or, sorry, Pacific coast. Yeah. Honestly, you'll know the difference. Like A black bear probably is this tall. Like walking around. A grizzly is like, will be taller than you, if not a little bit less when they're fully sized.

[A]

I don't need to see that.

[C]

And they're just gonna. They're just gonna kill you.

[B]

You should just act dead.

[A]

What about a chimp?

[D]

Oh, those. I'm so terrified of chimps.

[A]

Me too.

[D]

After I watched that documentary.

[C]

Yes, Yes.

[B]

I love this.

[D]

My God.

[A]

Do people encounter chimps in the w.

[C]

I guess like, he just sh you down.

[B]

Sorry. I'm sorry.

[A]

Like, I probably won't in my lifetime.

[B]

No, I volunteered at the. There's an LA sanctuary for animals that closed down a couple years ago. But it had all of the celebrities, like, refuse animals that they just thought they were cute when they were younger than. They just ditched them. Like, for instance, you could go to SeaWorld right now and there's a big, big grouper fish that's like this big named Bubba. That's Shaq's fish.

[D]

You know those groupers, you see their faces, they look all sad already. They're just like big and lumpy.

[B]

Yeah. But it's actually. They keep it in the shark tank because the sharks, it's like so big. The sharks don't really want it. Yeah, that's good. It's pretty rad.

[D]

I just.

[A]

I don't know. I have a. I have a fear of chimps. I feel like at any point. Oh, have you seen Chimp Crazy?

[B]

No, but there's a new chimp movie coming out like in a couple weeks too.

[D]

Well, Crazy talks about a lot. Well, a couple different characters, but basically chimp ownership and how the chimps have turned on specific people and completely just like rearrange their.

[A]

Yeah. Face off. Like all of it.

[B]

So do you guys see like those orangutans that have the huge like circular face pads that those face pads come in during puberty? So apes. We are the fifth from form of the great ape. All the other apes, when puberty hits, it is a tank of testosterone that just floods their entire body. So chimps are freaking cute until puberty.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And then it doesn't matter how much you love them as a young thing, it's. It's going to explode into just pure what it is evolved to be.

[D]

It's kind of like tweens.

[C]

It's just crazy. Like he just simply knew that. But it's like people still, like, they didn't just google that information. And then they still got the chimpanzee.

[B]

I got chat GPT in My ear right now. Just tell me something. But you're right.

[C]

It is like a teenage teenager. Yeah.

[A]

What else do we have?

[C]

Guy, if you don't have toilet paper in the woods, what can you use?

[A]

I think on Survivor they say they like a leaf is too, like, slippery. It just doesn't. It doesn't have any friction. But I think they say to use like a branch or something.

[C]

Do you like, go. And I guess there's not. If there's like some water nearby, you just take a little bath.

[A]

No, I think you should.

[D]

If it's moving water like a babbling brook, and I know that it's being sourced from something higher and it's constantly moving, I would dip my butt in there. Or actually, even if it was stagnant water, I wouldn't get water from there anyway. So I'd wash my ass in there because I wouldn't dip in there to for anything.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

But I have used the leaf before, and I think your theory is wrong.

[E]

Brooke.

[D]

There are some leaves that work okay on. Because one time I was running the Rose bowl. That loop. Have you guys ever done that?

[C]

Yeah, of course.

[D]

I had a diarrhea attack, so I hopped onto the side and I was desperate. And I don't know, it was a little dark. I didn't know what leaves I pulled, but it did maybe like a 75 job. So not too bad.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's never gonna be 100. I will say, the reason why they don't do it on Survivor is like these. These little plants behind us. This. These are island plants. They're slick, they're waxy. They're not going to be good for weapon your butthole. But if you're like, in the desert and you've got like that fuzzy, like Mullen, like, you've seen those big, fat, fuzzy leaves. Maybe if you go on the desert. Those are amazing.

[A]

That's a Charmin ultrasound.

[B]

They are. Yeah. It's four ply. It's amazing. So that. Let's see. I got some. I got some options because I was ready for this question.

[A]

Oh, good.

[B]

Yeah. So what my I like to do is if I have to take a dump pump, I will dig a hole, squat over it, and as I'm squatting over it, you're not on your phone because you don't want to be on your phone while you're pooping in the outdoors. I'll whittle while I'm pooping that stick that I'm going to eventually wipe my asshole with.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

So this is actually a really good one. This is my dad's favorite stick, so I'm not going to wipe my butt with it, but, yeah, if you can hold it like that and just have a. A very smooth part of the stick that you could just sloop and then go stoop, like, back down, down. And then maybe you can, like, weapon on a branch to do it one more time. Beautiful.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Okay, that's good to know.

[B]

Smooth river stones, anybody?

[D]

Oh, I love it.

[B]

This wouldn't be the worst.

[D]

Really?

[A]

Well, isn't that one a little big to get in the crevices?

[B]

What are you doing with it? Yeah, I don't know.

[C]

Pull them cheeks open.

[A]

Yeah. How wide does my stance have to

[C]

wipe you with that?

[D]

Let me see how wide your stance is.

[A]

Have to do a split.

[C]

Geez.

[B]

But yeah, wipe your butt with the river stone. It's actually pretty awesome. I found this in San Diego, so this was, like, on the ocean. I thought it would look like a dragon egg, so I was like, I want it. But then I thought, wow, this is a good wiping.

[D]

Okay, so river stone, not pumice.

[B]

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Do not use any. Any volcanic edges. Dear God.

[D]

In my head, you're doing this with a river stone.

[A]

I know what to do.

[B]

There's a lot of. I have a lot of videos about stances you can use for pooping.

[D]

I want to ask you if you think I'm more evolved than. Because I'm Filipino. So a lot of our. When we. A lot of our toilets don't require you to sit like this, so we. We do squat.

[B]

Do you know how healthy that is for you?

[D]

Yes, I do.

[B]

It's amazing.

[D]

It also comes out so much squatting.

[A]

Potty.

[B]

Yeah. If you guys can do this and put, like, your armpits over your knees and parkour. Back before it was PC, we called this a third world pose. And that means that. That all of everything just can slop right out of you.

[D]

Yeah, because I feel like it. You're right. It does slide out easier.

[B]

Oh, should I Pilates, ladies?

[D]

Doesn't it feel so good when you're pregnant, too, to be in this position?

[C]

In ways, yes. In other ways, I'm.

[B]

I can understand that.

[C]

Wait, so you do parkour?

[B]

I used to teach parkour for a bit, yeah.

[A]

Oh, that's good to know, because I've really been trying to get involved. I actually signed up for a class a couple weeks ago and had to cancel, unfortunately. But there's a lot of good parkour gyms here.

[B]

Yeah. If you're in La Traverse, Fitness is good. Movement lab.

[A]

That's where it was, I think.

[B]

Movement lab or.

[D]

No, it was in Chatsworth, where shock me sometimes. Brooke.

[A]

No, I want to do parkour so bad.

[C]

She makes no sense.

[A]

All of it comes back to wanting to go on the challenge. Like, I. I feel like parkour is a good skill set.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You never know when you're going to need to do parkour.

[C]

I feel like the baby's going to slip out in this pose.

[A]

Yeah. I feel like you're going to do labor or something.

[B]

Think that as a poop. It's just. It's. It's nice. But, yeah. I was on American Ninja Warrior for four years.

[A]

They have American Ninja Warrior gym in Santa Ana. It's, like, literally designed to train people for your coach.

[B]

They called me to manage that place, and I was like, I'm.

[A]

No, I'm so serious. I'm gonna have to take your number.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

I really have some before I get pregnant.

[C]

Yeah, that's true.

[D]

Imagine her being six months pregnant, just parkouring around your neighborhood.

[B]

It's fun. It's just freedom. Freedom of, like, movement. They always say that parkour is dangerous, and getting insurance to teach parkour is a fucking nightmare, really. But it's super safe. It's literally teaching you how to fall correctly and how to roll correctly.

[A]

I just have, like, such an ego on me. I'm like, I'm not signing up for BE parkour. I'm like, I can jump from one stump to the next. Like, give me the hard stuff.

[D]

That's where I feel like my weakness is I don't know how to fall.

[B]

Take a beginner parkour course.

[D]

Maybe. Maybe. But you guys are dancers. You already have, like, the upper hand, the coordination, all of that.

[A]

Well, I was a tumbler, so I feel like that's, like, that helps the parkour element.

[B]

Tumbling would help a lot. Yeah. I will say that my buddy was a super good wrestler, and he learned parkour, and he actually. The way that you roll is completely different. That he refused to start learning parkour because he didn't want to, like, taint his wrestling.

[C]

Do his.

[B]

So there might be a tumbling aspect that sometimes happens.

[A]

Like, gymnasts are not usually good dancers because it's like the opposite. Skills are used. Name one way to start a fire. This is flint.

[B]

Ooh, flint.

[C]

What is flint?

[D]

It's a type of rock.

[B]

I might have some.

[D]

Like, a flint holds fire.

[A]

What do you mean you might have some?

[B]

I might.

[C]

I. I mean, I just think of. Does it. I don't know if it actually works. But rubbing too. Two sticks together with the.

[D]

With. I always see that where. But it looks so hard to do.

[A]

I. I don't know. On Survivor, I feel like it's like usually they have the flint and they have to.

[D]

That's usually the challenge with Survivor, though, because a lot of them are in really, like, damp, humid places to. To find really dry things to, like, catch a. Catch a fire is a little bit hard sometimes. Especially, like they shoot them in the Philippines and it's always raining there. So wild. Yeah, I can't imagine it's as easy.

[C]

But.

[B]

But a lot of people when they're hiking and they know it's going to rain, they'll just start putting shit in their pockets. They'll just find things like, oh, that's cool. And it's not about sitting down and making a fire. It's like accumulating things over the day that you think is dry enough to use a fire.

[C]

Oh, that's magnifying glass over leaf.

[B]

You know what I actually tested, if you have the worst eyes and it's a really high magnification glasses, you can actually use reading glasses.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

I think it's like 3x and above. You can do it. But if you have, like, kind of okay glasses, like, you don't really need. Need them, the magnification isn't intense enough. This right here is a magnesium ferro rod. So I just had to find something metal to put it against, but. Oh, it's that easy. Sorry.

[A]

That was amazing.

[B]

You could try it if you want it. Like, the sparks like that won't set anything on fire. And this is a plastic floor. I think so. But getting those teeth and just putting against that.

[C]

And so that's a flint, like a match.

[D]

But it's got to be metal on the other one too.

[B]

It's got to be metal. Metal.

[A]

I had a baby spark.

[B]

Yay. There it is. Nice.

[D]

No fires for that one.

[B]

You wanted to hold the knife, but no, but I keep that with me because you can get that thing soaking wet. It's not like a lighter where it has a limited number like that. I've had that ferro rod for years.

[D]

It's fun.

[B]

Right on.

[A]

But so you would have to do that over like a little something. Something that can catch fire.

[B]

So you would get this. You'd scrape like a bunch of magnesium shavings of this off. It's super, super. It burns hot and localized. So I would get a little pile of that kind of like in one area. And then after I Got enough of the little brambles and the tissues or whatever I need to use. That's when I'll start a fire. I love backpacking, so I will bring a book while I'm backpacking and then as I'm done reading the book, those pages become my kindling for fires in the future. And then you have a lighter backpack, you have kindling that's dry. I think I'm a smart contract smart guy.

[D]

How do you feel about big game hunters guising their activity as conservation?

[B]

Oh, good question. Wow, love that. Some rhinos to hunt. It costs somebody $350,000. And so all that money goes to conservation. Allegedly most of that goes to the government and they do whatever they want with it. Especially in certain non scrupulous countries in Africa. But I think hunting is a good thing in very slim moderation. If you see an overpopulation of deer hunter's mentality is I need to kill the extra deer. A conservationist thinks I need to probably introduce some wolves or some kind of predators. So as soon as the hunters skew their mindset to we should probably restore something and more like oh, we need to call what's already happening because that's our job. I think that's the delineation. Just as long as you are an ecologically conscious hunter. Hunter. Yeah, I think it'd be fine. But I'm not a hunter, so I'm not one to judge.

[D]

Yeah, I, I don't know how I feel about that. I'm around a lot of hunters. I know you are too. Your family hunts. But the big game hunters, the trophy hunters who are like they.

[B]

Those are awful.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And so a certain president just unreal unredacted. The, the law. You can bring trophies back into the US now abroad, that kind of goes back and forth depending on the administration. But I'm going to South Africa in March to help some anti poaching efforts with the global conservation force. Folks at home if ever want to donate to anti poaching, they train locals to learn how to stop poachers. That way there's not a bunch of white people going in there and telling them what to do with their animals.

[D]

Amazing.

[B]

So yeah, I'm going down there in March to see what they're up to and make some videos with them.

[D]

Oh, that's awesome.

[C]

How do you stop poachers?

[D]

Isn't that dangerous?

[B]

Twofold, long term solution. Educate the people and give them better opportunities. Short term, arrest them. If you shoot them, their entire family will hate you. And all of a Sudden you have hating people that hate conservation. So the job is not to kill poachers. The job is to arrest them, show them what's better. A lot of the people that actually are anti poachers now used to be poachers.

[C]

What if I'm on a hike and I see a mountain lion?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I feel like big cats are scary.

[D]

Especially if you see a mountain lion and it's at a higher angle than you. It's. It's looking down at you. That's my fear. I'm always like looking up and see who's like, look. Scaling the.

[E]

The area.

[D]

Because if they're coming right at me, maybe I have a chance. But if they're coming from here, I'm.

[B]

You got me. I don't know either. I would, I would. First off, never turn back to it. Like, never act like it's not a problem. Like, never turn your back back. Always walk. I've run into a mountain. I ran into one, I think five years ago here in LA by Sierra Madre. I was camping by myself and it came up and sat underneath my hammock and just watched me as I was at my fire.

[C]

What did you do?

[B]

I finished my book. It wasn't going to do any I between me, like, it was like, from me probably to like the end of the wall back there, like maybe 20ft. And I finished reading my book and then I was like, I'm not going to happen here tonight. So I picked up one of the logs out of the fire that I had and just kind of did the whole caveman thing. It backed up enough for me to take down my hammock and then I walked backwards for the last like two miles to get back out. Yeah, very interesting.

[A]

Backwards, backwards.

[B]

Always walk backwards.

[D]

But can they sense that my heart is beating out of my chest?

[B]

No.

[D]

Okay, that's good to know.

[B]

I was very loud and singing all the way back to tell them, like, hey, like, I'm not going to sneak up on you. And I didn't want another animal in the middle of the night to be be surprised by me sneaking up to them by accident. So if you're hiking in the middle of the night alone, be loud.

[D]

What about rattlesnakes? So what I was told to do is if I'm walking through, like tall grass or whatever, and you know there are a lot of rattlesnakes here, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I was told to clap my way through and let them know I'm around. Or is that not a thing you

[B]

could do that you could stomp because they're usually on the ground or underground, so they feel the, the like Same thing in San Diego, as I'm sure some San Diego folk would know. Like when you're in, when you're in the beach, what do you do? Like shuffle your feet. Bingo. Yeah, the stingray shuffle. And so that like doing stomping sounds, anything to like, like feel that ground.

[A]

What if you stomp on them?

[B]

Well, yeah, you're ideally not like marching, but you know, you're doing like.

[D]

I've seen some really big, like Pacific rattlesnakes when I used to hike. Yeah?

[B]

Yeah. Pretty wild. I've run into quite a few and they all do the warnings and then they don't do anything. I think people that do get bit, they're gardening, they're sitting down on like a bench that they don't know that there's a snake underneath it kind of thing. So just be aware of what's underneath you. If you're out in the woods, what

[A]

are your chances once you're bit by a rattlesnake?

[B]

I think it's pretty high. I think helicopter evacs are pretty common now.

[D]

Do most hospitals have antidotes for rattlesnake bites?

[B]

I would guess like 1 in 4 do. But if you're going a helicopter, they're just taking you to the nearest one that needs anti venom.

[A]

I just found out about rabies. Like, not just found out.

[D]

I love rabies.

[B]

Have you heard about this rabies thing?

[A]

I had no idea it had such a crazy, like, mortality. Like I didn't realize once you have rabies you just.

[C]

You're dead.

[D]

My fixation in microbiology class was rabies because it's like by the time you do find out, it's 100%.

[A]

Yeah. It feels like becoming fatality or something.

[F]

How do you prevent that?

[C]

That.

[D]

But you have to get as soon as. Even if you suspect a. A rabies bite, especially if you cannot find the animal and test the animal and prove its rabies in the Philippines. Because, you know, we, we were, we had a lot of like rabid dogs at one point. Like, I have cousins who would get the shots in their abdomen. If you suspected it, it couldn't prove it. You would still have to get the shots because it's like you cannot even risk finding out later because when you do find out, you're, you know, you, you're gonna pass.

[A]

Yeah, but I heard like bats, you can't even tell sometimes if they bit you.

[D]

Oh, that's right. Yeah, they can spin on that lady With a. With the. Her kid had those little bites in the ear. They were in like, a cabin somewhere and her whole family needed rabies shots.

[B]

Like, oh, you guys don't know Radio lab? Yeah, it's a little like, educational podcast. They had one specifically on rabies, but they had one girl that. They put her in a medically induced coma because rabies affects your brain chemistry. And so they put in a medically induced coma. So the antibodies had time. Time to catch up. Because once you. If you die from rabies, if they check your body, you have antibodies for it, it just comes way too late.

[D]

Oh, too late. Yeah.

[B]

So they're learning that if you put people in a medically induced coma, you have a higher chance of saving them.

[C]

Oh, interesting.

[B]

Because their brain is on low power mode and the antibodies catch up before it infects your brain. Totally.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

But it's weird.

[A]

No, but like, oh, I live in constant fear now.

[B]

Oh, no, it's scary.

[A]

Yeah, like one of those things you think you're just going to run into anywhere.

[B]

I'm scared of Hantavirus virus.

[C]

What's that?

[D]

Isn't Hanta. It's Hansa. From rats.

[B]

Haunt us from rodents.

[D]

Yeah, that's wife died from Hanta. Remember they found her body in New Mexico. They're both dead. And everyone was like, oh, this is carbon monoxide poisoning. But she had Hanta.

[B]

Yeah. So if you're like, brooming out or doing any kind of cleaning and there's a bunch of, like, crap everywhere, like poop, specifically of roast rodents. Hose it down first. Because what happens is if there's this bacteria. Hana, Virus or virus that's in the poop, if you're brooming and stuff, it goes up and it becomes airborne, but usually it's not. It's just sitting there. So you cleaning actually kills you. So if you think about it, I'm not that gross.

[A]

You don't have to worry about me cleaning anything, especially poop.

[D]

I'm spraying everything down. That's a really good tip.

[C]

So you wet it and then you.

[D]

Yeah. So you're not kicking it up into the air and inhaling, killing it.

[B]

I'm surprised, like, a bunch of, like, cave divers haven't gotten it because it's.

[D]

Don't tell me that. Well, actually, you're right too.

[B]

They die from, like, you know, being stuck in crevices.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I had a friend just who cave dove and he got meningitis.

[D]

That makes sense. Can I tell you, one of the grossest things ever is I was diving through A cenotes like the, just the underground rivers and stuff. And I came across a really, really dark patch and I came up for air cuz I was like free diving. And I held on to the structure right next to me and I looked over, I was like, what do I feel like there are organisms around me. I look over and I'm not kidding you. Hundreds of massive cockroaches. And you know I hate cockroaches. You couldn't get my head faster down underneath. I was like I'm getting the out of here. It was so disgusting. So I know there's so much like the meningitis stuff makes sense, sense to me because it's so gross in there.

[B]

Do you guys remember the old Indiana Jones ride at Universal Studios?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

They used to have like this air that fluttered by your feet with a bunch of like loose fabric. So it feels like there's cockroaches at your feet. And they would show cockroaches on the screen.

[A]

I think they still do that.

[B]

Humanity is that we're not doing ourselves any favors by getting people terrified of cockroaches.

[A]

Oh, I'm petrified of cockroaches. It doesn't make any sense. I always think about like how it's kind of like discriminatory, how like if I see it a ladybug and it has like cute little spots, I'm like, like let me grab it if it's a cockroach.

[D]

I have this theory. There was a point in my life where I wanted to, to tattoo a rat, a pigeon and a cockroach on my body. And I, I and, and the reason that we anything becomes a pest to humans or society is because they have evolved to be superior to us. And I really do think that about cockroaches. It's like they have existed since the dawn of time. And for the life of me, like they have haunted my childhood and my adulthood and I am so terrified of them. So I think that they are gods at this point. That's why I'm afraid of them. I'm afraid of pigeons and I'm afraid of God too. And I think that they're just so, they've survived everything that it's like of course they're better than me, they're better than me and I'm afraid of them.

[C]

But you're saying don't be afraid of them.

[B]

I mean with caution of course. But I mean I knew people that had cockroaches as pets and they were fun fine. My buddy kept a black widow as a pet in their phone.

[C]

Oh yeah. What about a black widow? What do we do if we see one or if like don't they cast

[D]

like low webs like I was always told like careful of like the low webs.

[B]

No, because low webs also include tarantulas and tarantulas.

[D]

I had pet tarantulas.

[B]

It's amazing. In California we have those, those trapdoor tarantulas. Have you guys seen these things? Have you heard about this? It's these tarantulas literally, literally create a trap door and they, they make a burrow. And then when the, the tarantula sees something or feels something come by, it leaves like little strands of webs out so it can feel it. It'll open up like a rock that it put on top of its thing and it'll just go. And then it'll close back over something.

[D]

You know I used to drive at three in the, three in the morning to Azusa and put a flashlight to any and the tarantulas would be everywhere.

[B]

A little reflective eye eyes.

[A]

But I love interesting how like for some reason spiders aren't as scary to me as cockroaches.

[D]

I agree, I agree. No they are because they're not.

[B]

Did you watch Men in Black too?

[A]

I didn't, but I feel something like about a cockroach feels more like a rodent or I mean a tarantula or like a big spider feels more like a rodent.

[C]

Don't you die from a black widow bite?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And we have those here in Cal, in la.

[D]

I'm convinced a cockroach can kill me. Me.

[C]

How come we don't talk more about black widow deaths?

[B]

Because they're reclusive. They keep to themselves. Usually when people get attacked by black widows, it's not an attack. It's like holy crap, get out of my house. Cuz the black widow is like usually in the crevice in the corner you've forgotten about for 10 years.

[A]

What's the brown on recluse?

[B]

Once again, don't clean your house. Just leave them. Oh yeah.

[D]

You guys have that in Arizona?

[A]

Yeah, we have all, all of it in Arizona.

[C]

So they're not going to come for us.

[B]

What part of Arizona are you in?

[A]

I would was in Tucson when I had all the wildlife.

[B]

Yeah, Tucson's wild.

[A]

We would have mountain lions. Javelina. Javelin are just ugly.

[B]

You guys want to know crazy? A crazy fact I learned yesterday.

[D]

Huh.

[B]

The species of shark is older than the North Star.

[D]

Wow, I love that. It's not the Megalodon Is it?

[A]

They're saying they're re. They're back.

[D]

The Megamounts or they're still here.

[B]

Megalodons, yes.

[A]

Somebody said that they're still in the ocean.

[D]

A lot of them.

[B]

Probably true then.

[A]

Yeah. I believe everything I see on the Internet.

[D]

The megamouth sharks, they find them a lot.

[E]

The Philippines.

[D]

Yeah, I do keep track of it. I think they found like at least like 20 over there.

[C]

It's wild.

[D]

But the Megalodon, I don't know.

[C]

As a fit survivor camper kind of guy. Do you have like a go to

[F]

like snack that you pack?

[C]

Like what's your like protein bar of choice?

[B]

Ooh, I don't really do protein bars.

[C]

So what do you do?

[D]

Whip bar.

[B]

If I'm honest, if I go on like a day hike, I will pack a chipotle burrito.

[D]

Genius.

[B]

Amazing.

[C]

God.

[A]

I'm going there after this. That sounds so good. That sounds.

[D]

That's a perfect snack.

[B]

And then if you go out for multiple days. I like dates because they help you poop.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I feel like I don't need any help in that department, I'll tell you that.

[C]

My new diet, my. It's my current diet.

[B]

Chop and always bring chapstick. Like I can't tell you. I was out in the woods for like 17 days once and I didn't bring chapstick. Didn't think I'd need it because I hadn't done that before. When I came back, my lips were just scabs. There was nothing left of my lips.

[D]

But I feel like some brands of

[E]

Chapstick are a scam.

[B]

Bingo.

[D]

And the ones that I know work really well is actually what I use for my. My little painful nipples. Cuz I breastfeed the nipple butter. Best chapstick on Earth. Really?

[A]

I feel like sunscreen to me is more important than chapstick on my lips cuz I get like cold sores and if I have any sun at all.

[B]

Do you get that on Amazon?

[D]

The nipple butter? Yeah, I think it's called Earth Mama. Okay.

[B]

I feel real weird for me getting

[A]

it in the Earth Mama nipple butter.

[D]

Yeah, get the nipple butter guys. It works well on lips.

[B]

We also heard that you had some scientific data on why women are the more superior sex. Oh, this is true. Lovely. It's funny because I. I got like 15 million views on a video last year about how to throw a knife. I looked at my analytics. 99% men, like I need to do something for the ladies. And so I looked up like some like evolutionary science of how We've evolved separately and over the last like a hundred thousand years. And when it comes to the senses, ladies are like second to none. Like we are just like meat patties that just get thrown into the world. But you guys have such receptive like natures. Like you guys have an incredible, like incredible amount of taste buds compared to us. So if, if something smells or tastes bad because you think it's old and we don't agree with you, you guys are always right.

[A]

That's what I like to hear.

[D]

That guy.

[B]

There's that there's mutations in eyesight and so forget guys. If we have a mutation in eyesight, it's colorblindness. So I think like 1412 to 14% of men are colorblind. If it that mutation happens in women, it's like a super lower chance of colorblindness. And it's actually tetrachromacy where you have another cone to see more colors.

[D]

And guys sense, because my partner is colorblind and his sister is also colorblind, but she also is like, like she's also a witch. I feel like she sees like the other, like she sees other realms. So I do believe that.

[F]

I mean, yeah, I'm sorry, this is

[C]

a really stupid question. If he's colorblind, does that literally mean he can't see color?

[D]

He. My partner's color faded. He's a little color faded. So he mixes up depending on like how lights light hits something too.

[A]

Yeah, like a cat.

[D]

Do I have a pimple? He can't see it. Oh, that's good. That is good.

[A]

That is good.

[B]

I was like, that's great.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So red, green, color blindness, there's that. I had a buddy.

[A]

That's not good. What about on the road?

[B]

Yeah. I had a backpacking guy that was teaching me everything that was green and red was brown. So they were all like, everything was brown. And he got hit in the head when he was younger, something happened where everything tastes like pizza no matter what he ate. I know, right?

[D]

I know. Kind of awesome.

[B]

So I'm like, you've got a really awful setup in life, but at least he likes pizza. And then there's the other kind of color blindness my buddy has is like blue. Purple is like that deeper color spectrum. If you go like rock climbing ever, they tag certain routes based off of the color to tell you like the difficulty or where to go. And you know who's colorblind at the gyms now. Cuz you're like, this guy has no idea what he's Doing he's going on like eight different routes. Or they'll come up to you and be like, excuse me, I'm colorblind. I don't know what to do here. And you have to tell them what rocks to touch.

[D]

Why do women want to scald their skin in the shower?

[C]

I need to burn in the.

[D]

Me too. I need to burn. Mother of dragon style.

[B]

I'm like a 95 degree.

[D]

Ew. I would be shivering.

[A]

See, this is okay.

[B]

Testicles are on the outside of our body, okay. And sperm doesn't really exist in high temperatures because they'll just die. So the fact that we have a lower need for high temperature means that we're trying to protect. Our body's trying to protect our sperm from not dying at high heat. So we have a lower sensitivity to high heat. You guys. Actually, estrogen lowers the ability for dispersal of heat in the body. So if your fingertips and your toes run colder than your partner's, that's the reason it's estrogen. So between those two things, man, by the end of it, we're pretty different.

[D]

But then how, how does sperm act in the sauna? Because men are all into their sauna era these days, right?

[B]

It's like, doesn't that now they're toasted,

[A]

bro, don't tell me that.

[C]

Why?

[A]

Because we just got a sauna just

[C]

I think for three months before you try to conceive. He shouldn't use it.

[D]

Yeah, just don't jacuzzi, don't sauna, don't like.

[C]

Yeah, he can't do hot or I'll

[B]

tell him to research it. I'm a guy from the woods, so as much as I can tell you things, I would research it.

[A]

He's sauning every day.

[C]

He's going to have to take a break.

[A]

Oh, he's going to hate to hear

[C]

this little in the summer. In the summer it'll be easier to break.

[B]

But also the Finnish people are fine. They're having kids and yeah, oh yeah. They finish.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[D]

I think as long as you do hot, cold, hot, cold, and you do a cold punch. Just dip his nuts in. In a cold bath right after.

[C]

Listen to that. Just research about it.

[B]

Nightmare it.

[C]

But it, it's not like it kills it forever. It's like you just need like a

[F]

period of time where you're not doing it.

[D]

They just start swimming in circles.

[C]

What about like why women are better listeners?

[B]

It goes into how we register sound in our brain. And guys use. I think it's the left side of our Brain for immediate, like, need. We're basically like one quest people. Like, if we play video games, you guys would be like, managing a bunch of different quests and be really good at making sure that all of them are all set. A little bit less attentive, maybe at all the quests together. We will do one quest and we go, yes, we did that. And then we go to the next one and we do that. So when it comes to our listening, it's the same thing. If we have a task, we do the task. And if we're doing that task, if we're typing or whittling and you're telling us shit, it's like we actually won't register you hearing things. Thank you.

[D]

Yeah, thank you.

[C]

Sorry.

[B]

It's a great excuse. But also the caveat to that is multitaskers don't actually do better with those tasks. You know, there's always a trade off for that stuff.

[A]

I don't have any of these things. I'm a bad listener. I'm a bad multitasker.

[C]

I just can't anymore. Final questions for our Survivor survivalist Outdoor Anthony.

[A]

God, I feel like I should have

[D]

had, like 50 questions ready now that I. I'll never probably see you again.

[B]

I'm around. Yeah. If you guys ever want to do a trip on the road, come to Tahoe. I can show you guys some bears and some salmon and stuff.

[D]

Okay. I do have one question. Do you feel. I feel as though in certain climates, I feel biologically supreme. And then when I enter Tahoe and the cold parts of the world, I feel so biologically inferior. Like, my body does a full shutdown. There are people that look really pretty and rosy and. And their blood flows to their face. Like, I couldn't be more opposite of that. I feel like my body is like. No. Do you believe that certain people are meant for certain climates?

[B]

Yep. It's not about a belief. I mean, it's. It's more science. I mean, if you're of Southeast Asian descent.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You're going to, like, tropical climates.

[D]

Because my eczema is so bad in the United States, everything is shutting down. I'm going to move back, guys. Bye.

[B]

Like, I'm white as. And my family all came from, like, the Dutch heritage. And I don't think I do well in this climate or humidity.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And my hair is curly as hell. Like, it would just be. I would just look like Bob Ross. And up in Top Tahoe, I actually do really well. Like, I grow my beard out and I feel really fine in the cold and in the. Like, I'm struggling down here. Like, I'm putting on so much moisturizer. Yeah, but in Tahoe, I don't.

[C]

But isn't it like that, too? I'm really dry and crusty here, but I'm from Chicago and I don't. I mean, not that that's where my ethnicity is from, but like, I'm. I'm, like, not dry there at all. It's a complete LA issue.

[B]

What's your, like, descent?

[C]

I just know, like, Jewish, Ashkenazi and. And from Finland.

[B]

Yeah. So there we go. Yeah. Cold, maybe colder climates.

[D]

Wow. Well, thank you so much, Anthony. I know you found your new coach.

[A]

I know. I really. I. I got to get to it.

[C]

We have a lot of work to do.

[D]

I know.

[A]

I'm going to start with the mile

[C]

to finally do it right. Thank you so much. To our guests, Outdoor Anthony. Where can people find more of you and learn more from you?

[B]

Yeah, Google me on anything outdoor, Anthony. On Instagram, TikTok tok, all the stuff. There's one stalker website that just really gets on my feet. Pictures and puts them in a spot. You can find me there, too. But, yeah, tik tok, Instagram, YouTube, and

[A]

Brooke Brook Scofield on everything except for Wiki Feet. They kicked me off.

[D]

They kiss you off.

[A]

Yeah. Because apparently you can't campaign for votes, which is ridiculous.

[D]

No, that's. That's sexist because Bobby campaigned for votes on H3 H3, and he. His rating went from over, like a 2.1 to a 5.0. So they're fucking me.

[A]

I got to a perfect score, and then I checked the next day and my whole account was deleted.

[D]

That's bullshit. I am. We need to really.

[A]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna appeal it.

[D]

Yes, appeal it.

[C]

And don't forget to plug your news Secret account.

[A]

Well, it's not a secret if I plug it, but I.

[C]

People don't want. People want to know it.

[D]

Are you ever gonna make it private or just.

[C]

I don't think.

[A]

Is that what I'm supposed to do?

[D]

No, I think so. I think so. So I think so. Make it wait. If I'm following Mama Brooke, I need us to have our own Mama Brook

[A]

is Cat account broke. Scofield is spam account, and Brook Scofield is Brook account.

[D]

Oh, this is.

[B]

That's wild world.

[C]

These people under 30.

[F]

You have so many accounts.

[B]

I can't do more than one. This is crazy.

[A]

I'm just so hardworking.

[B]

Love it.

[C]

Thank you so much to our slugs for being here and listening. And as always, we'll see you next week with a brand new episode. Episode.