Good Mythical Tuesday w/ Rhett and Link

Summary

Podcast Summary: Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn
Episode: Good Mythical Tuesday w/ Rhett and Link
Release Date: June 17, 2025

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Introduction to the Episode and Guests

In this special episode of Trash Tuesday, hosts Esther Povitsky and Khalyla Kuhn welcome legendary YouTubers Rhett McLaughlin and Link Neal of Good Mythical Morning (GMM) for an engaging and humorous crossover. The collaboration marks a significant moment, blending the humor and camaraderie of both podcasts.

Notable Quote:
Annie Lederman [00:31]: "It's the biggest crossover that could have happened for the little Trash Tuesday girls. We have the originators of YouTube."

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Health and Stress Stories

Rhett's Experience with Stress-Induced Retina Detachment
Rhett shares a personal health scare resulting from the intense workload during a season-funded stint on GMM. The relentless production schedule led to a detached retina, a condition historically observed in pilots returning from WWII.

Notable Quote:
Rhett McLaughlin [02:05]: "At the end of that, I had this thing happen to my eyesight where I was reading and I couldn't make anything out. My retina has detached."

Esther's Battle with Bell's Palsy
Esther discusses her recovery from Bell's palsy, highlighting the unforeseen consequences of stress and sleeplessness, including facial paralysis and hair loss. She elaborates on ongoing residual effects, such as involuntary eye closure.

Notable Quote:
Esther Povitsky [03:26]: "I'm recovering from Bell's palsy, and I had no idea that sleeplessness and just overall stress was gonna cause facial paralysis."

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Friendship Dynamics

Long-Lasting Friendship of Rhett and Link
Rhett and Link reflect on their 40-year friendship, comparing it to an "old married couple." They emphasize loyalty, commitment, and open communication as pillars sustaining their bond despite the pressures of collaborative work.

Notable Quotes:
Link Neal [09:56]: "We celebrated 40 years of friendship. So at a certain point, you're more of an old married couple than friends."
Rhett McLaughlin [10:28]: "We're very rarely the source of drama in other friendships or groups."

Handling Conflicts and Competition
The duo candidly discusses moments of disagreement, such as debates over competitiveness, and how they navigate these tensions without jeopardizing their friendship. They highlight the importance of addressing resentment and maintaining honest conversations.

Notable Quote:
Link Neal [17:04]: "We create so much content. We've done almost 3,000 episodes of Good Mythical Morning... what's going on behind the camera fills up the cup."

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Diving and Spearfishing Discussion

Techniques and Personal Anecdotes
Esther expresses her passion for diving and spearfishing, aiming to teach Rhett and Link the nuances of holding breath underwater. The conversation delves into techniques like equalizing pressure and mental preparation, emphasizing the meditative benefits of being submerged.

Notable Quotes:
Esther Povitsky [26:58]: "It's mental."
Rhett McLaughlin [27:37]: "Once you're underwater, it's a mental game."

Schedules and Safety
Rhett shares experiences from a freediving class with his son, detailing safety measures and the exhilarating challenge of diving deep on a single breath.

Notable Quote:
Rhett McLaughlin [27:53]: "He was like, you will die. 43ft and touch this thing. But we went down and touched it and came back up without issue."

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Parenting Advice

Balancing Public Lives and Family
Rhett and Link offer insights into parenting while maintaining public personas. They discuss their children's awareness of their fame, the dynamics of having kids appear occasionally on their shows, and the evolution of their children's responses to being in the spotlight.

Notable Quotes:
Link Neal [30:24]: "One in the one world of one."
Rhett McLaughlin [32:38]: "My oldest daughter was really wary of people becoming his friends because he was my son."

Navigating Privacy and Support
The hosts emphasize the importance of providing a secure and understanding environment for their children, balancing public engagements with personal support.

Notable Quote:
Annie Lederman [30:23]: "How old are these? One in the one world of one."

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Snack Taste Test Segment

Filipino vs. American Snacks
Esther introduces a fun segment where Rhett and Link taste and identify various Filipino and American snacks. The group explores differences in flavors, textures, and packaging, highlighting nostalgic favorites like "Chippy" and unique treats such as "Crowitos."

Notable Quotes:
Esther Povitsky [42:42]: "Both of these are barbecue flavored chips. One is Filipino and one is American."
Annie Lederman [43:03]: "It's a gas station classic for me."

Discussion on Bananas
The conversation shifts to bananas, where Rhett and Link share their neutral stances, preferences for certain varieties, and humorous takes on banana-related phenomena.

Notable Quotes:
Rhett McLaughlin [34:35]: "The one has a stronger banana smell."
Link Neal [39:06]: "I used to not like them, and I've been on a journey to become neutral towards them."

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Fast Food Favorites

Burgers and Fries Preferences
Rhett and Link discuss their favorite fast-food establishments, expressing a preference for places like Shake Shack and In-N-Out for burgers, while unanimously crowning McDonald's fries as unbeatable.

Notable Quotes:
Rhett McLaughlin [62:26]: "I think burgers these days, there's just so many good smash burgers in LA."
Link Neal [62:54]: "McDonald's French fries, you guys. Yeah, it's hard to beat."

In-N-Out's Freshness
They highlight the importance of fresh preparation, particularly for In-N-Out fries, noting that delayed serving diminishes their quality.

Notable Quote:
Rhett McLaughlin [64:06]: "I prefer the opposite [fries well-done]. But I will only eat the In-N-Out fries if they're fresh."

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Humorous Bits and Lighthearted Fun

Banana Break and Snack Jokes
The hosts engage in playful banter over bananas, including attempts to identify different banana brands and flavors. This segment is filled with laughter and lighthearted teasing, showcasing the chemistry between guests.

Notable Quotes:
Annie Lederman [35:27]: "What the fuck? Just kidding. Just kidding. It's fine."
Rhett McLaughlin [50:57]: "We just made a different game."

Selling Bath Water Gimmick
A humorous discussion arises around Sydney Sweeney's fictional soap made from bath water, leading to exaggerated safety concerns and playful mockery.

Notable Quotes:
Annie Lederman [57:20]: "It's made with her bath water. That's so unhygienic."
Link Neal [58:35]: "You've got to define a bath."

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Conclusion and Farewell

As the episode wraps up, Esther and Khalyla thank Rhett and Link for their participation, expressing excitement for future collaborations. The hosts leave listeners with a blend of humor, heartfelt discussions, and shared experiences that resonate with both fanbases.

Notable Quote:
Annie Lederman [61:53]: "Rhett and Link, thank you so much for coming today and being on our show. We hope that you'll come back."

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Transcript

[Esther Povitsky]

Esther, how are you? How are you feeling?

[Annie Lederman]

We have two tall white men in the room.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm sweating.

[Annie Lederman]

I'm so. I'm like nervous. I know, yeah.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Is it the tall part or the white part?

[Annie Lederman]

It's the tall part. I'm white, so I can't pretend like white people scare me. I mean, even though white people probably don't fully accept me as one of them. Cause I'm half Jewish.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

But I accept you.

[Annie Lederman]

Thank you so much.

[Esther Povitsky]

Thank you so much.

[Annie Lederman]

In that accent, it means a lot. Like that's a.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

You call that an accent? I like that.

[Annie Lederman]

Hi, slugs.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Hey, guys.

[Annie Lederman]

It's your girl with a mouthful of raisins and walnuts here to tell you I have a stand up show in LA. Friday, June 27th at the Comedy Store. You can get tickets at the link below. I'll see you there. It's. It's been real. Well, we have a Patreon and it is, I'll say it, it's popping off.

[Esther Povitsky]

And it's juicy, juicy, juicy.

[Annie Lederman]

And we have full episodes there. We're talking current events, pop culture, all the stuff we don't get to on the full episodes. And our Patreon is growing and we love our patron slugs. You gu guys can join and get instant access to all the backlogged episodes. So if you want to have like a little binge and then a new thing every week, you can go to patreon.com trashtuesdaypodcast or click the link below and shout out to our golden slugs, Brandon and Thomas.

[Esther Povitsky]

And if you're a hater, we also have a hater tier. Oh, yeah, Just for you. You guys, huge show today.

[Annie Lederman]

No, this is like the biggest crossover that could have happened for the little Trash Tuesday girls. We have the orig originators of YouTube. They invented YouTube, basically.

[Esther Povitsky]

I mean, legendary YouTubers, legendary snackers.

[Link Neal]

Ooh, that's true. That part is definitely true.

[Esther Povitsky]

Legendary friendship. You guys have been friends forever. We are so happy to have Rhett and Link.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Thanks for having us.

[Link Neal]

Thank y' all.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Good to see you again.

[Annie Lederman]

I know. Thanks for having me on your show forever. That was when I was promoting that show alone together. It was probably like 20, 17, 18, a long time ago. Thank you for having me.

[Link Neal]

Then we never spoke after that.

[Annie Lederman]

Nope.

[Link Neal]

Until right now.

[Annie Lederman]

Never before. Never after, after. It was purely like a press moment we were doing.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

We had a weird stint on Good Mythical Morning where we, like YouTube, decided to directly fund the show for a season. And they were like, we want to do like A half hour of content every day, four or five individual videos. And so we were shooting like five videos every single day without. We would stop every, like, five or six weeks.

[Link Neal]

Yeah.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

So we probably were not even. That's quite a blur. Literally, at the end of that, I had this thing happen to my eyesight where I was reading and I couldn't, like, right in the middle of my field of vision, I couldn't make anything out. And then I go to the doctor and I have this thing where my retina has detached.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Because there's a bubble and they're like. Yeah, this is a stress induced thing that was first observed from pilots coming back from World War II. I was like, I've just been making YouTube videos.

[Annie Lederman]

You're like, I just interviewed Esther Povitzky. Why did this happen?

[Esther Povitsky]

Why did I go blind?

[Link Neal]

You made him blind.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I was in a fugue state for that.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, I love a fugue state.

[Annie Lederman]

I was also in a fugue state because I was like. Had my own TV show and was like, very stressed out all the time and didn't know what was going on outside world.

[Esther Povitsky]

Well, the stress thing is so real because I'm recovering from Bell's palsy, and I had no idea that sleeplessness and just overall stress was gonna cause facial paralysis. And apparently it's just a thing.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

It's true.

[Esther Povitsky]

It caused your hair to fall out, cause you to go blind, detach retina.

[Link Neal]

But you caught it early. You don't.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, I'm eight months out and I still have.

[Link Neal]

You still have some.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, I still have it. Like, remnants of it. So basically, when I try to purse my lips, my left eye shuts. It's like a cross wiring.

[Link Neal]

What? And yeah, my wife Christy had it in college.

[Esther Povitsky]

Did it just go away?

[Link Neal]

Well, they treated it very quickly. Yeah, because she woke up with, you know, she's brushing her teeth and there's like water's like running out of the side of her mouth. And it was that. It was Bell's paws.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's exactly how it happened for me. I woke up in the morning.

[Link Neal]

She doesn't have any cool tricks. Like.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like there's a crossbar. It kind of. Especially when I eat.

[Link Neal]

I know you're doing like a. Oh, you're doing a duck face. And it closes your left eye.

[Esther Povitsky]

So when I chew, my left eye closes when I'm chewing food. Which is why it's a little wink, though.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

You have to be careful who you look at while you're.

[Esther Povitsky]

Right. Right.

[Annie Lederman]

I don't know. Why? I find it very attractive.

[Esther Povitsky]

Thank you.

[Annie Lederman]

It's like, kind of hot to be slightly wonky, you know?

[Esther Povitsky]

I think that you're guessing.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah. It's like, oh, I have a chance.

[Link Neal]

I've looked at the left side. Now what am I gonna get from the right side? You know? Yeah. Screw this definition of beauty.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Symmetry.

[Link Neal]

Symmetry is stupid.

[Esther Povitsky]

Symmetry really is dumb.

[Annie Lederman]

It's outdooring.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Have you done the thing on TikTok where you can double your face on each side?

[Annie Lederman]

No. I'm scared.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I am literally two completely different people who may not be related. Like, when you go one side or the other, I'm like, whoa. Really? That's what happens.

[Annie Lederman]

See, I'm so afraid to see that for myself. I feel like it will send me down a spiral. I will leave the business. It will be bad. I can't.

[Esther Povitsky]

How long have you had the beard?

[Link Neal]

Yep.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Right.

[Link Neal]

There you go.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yep. You know where to push. I have only. I have only. I shaved this beard one time in my adult life. And it was for. It was right around that same time we were working on another show. Just another reason I went half blind. Working on another show, like a scripted half hour comedy called Buddy System. And we wanted to do, like a high school prom scene recreating, like our.

[Annie Lederman]

High school prom with you guys in it.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah. And so I was like, okay, I'm gonna shave and I grow the beard to give the illusion of a lower half of a face. It's why I have the beard.

[Annie Lederman]

If I was a man, I would have a beard.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I have very little chin. I have my mother's non chin. Like 10 years had passed. And it's like your face changes from 25 to 35. Things happen in here that make the chin recede even more, it seems like. And so he was there when I shaved it. And the thing is, is that.

[Link Neal]

Wish I wasn't.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Here's the thing is that you take entirely. This is a character flaw I'll bring up. You take entirely too joy. And how bad I look without a beard. Like, it's. It's so. There's so much insult to injury. It's like somebody.

[Link Neal]

Are you referring to me literally laughing in your face?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah, literally. And also the gleam in your eye whenever it's talked about. Like, it's like, I'm so deeply wounded by the. By the. My lack of chin. I don't need you to just be there laughing at it every single time.

[Esther Povitsky]

To be fair, I don't think anyone who has a beard and then shaves it ever looks better oh, yeah. Even if they do have a chin. Like, I remember I was dating a guy, he had great facial hair. Didn't warn me. Shave the beard. Shave everything. I didn't speak. I said, call me back in a month when your shit's grown back. I felt such a stranger danger. And his face was fine. He looked great.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Right.

[Esther Povitsky]

But I just didn't know who he was. And I want to defend you here by saying maybe you just know who he was. It would be like stranger danger feeling. It was like, who is this?

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah. You were laughing because you were nervous.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

That would have been, like, confusion or concern. It was, you know, it was unadulterated. Joy is what it brings in.

[Link Neal]

Yeah. I mean, I might have been frightened a little bit.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Link Neal]

It was scary.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

So, yeah, as soon as I could grow anything in high school, I mean, I had the whole little half goatee. That didn't connect. Like, my junior year in high school. And then all through college, had the chin strap because I was in college in the late 90s, so almost get away with it. Give you a jaw and it wouldn't connect. So I was like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna grow. Whatever. The Amish part of my beard is what I'm gonna grow if that's all I can grow.

[Annie Lederman]

Wait, were you guys best friends in elementary school?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah, first grade.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wow.

[Annie Lederman]

Damn.

[Link Neal]

Way back.

[Esther Povitsky]

You guys are basically a success story. Because usually when people basically. Basically for the who, you know, Laughing at his chinless face, but I think.

[Link Neal]

That'S part of it.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Link Neal]

We are a basic, successful.

[Esther Povitsky]

Basic.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

You always hear about friends coming together, working together, and there's always a fallout. Except for bands like Aerosmith, because apparently they all split it four ways. And so that's sort of their key to their success is that there is no money feud.

[Link Neal]

Yeah. But have you seen Steven Tyler's toes?

[Esther Povitsky]

I've never.

[Link Neal]

Don't Google that.

[Esther Povitsky]

Now I have to. What do they look like?

[Link Neal]

He's endured his hardships. It may not be. What is that from, though, in the band? I think it's from the boots.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, no way. Like a ballerina.

[Annie Lederman]

Oh, no.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Annie Lederman]

Okay, okay. Do not throw ballerinas under the bus.

[Esther Povitsky]

I know. Your feet are beautiful.

[Annie Lederman]

We might have calluses, but I don't.

[Link Neal]

Know why I mentioned it, guys. I'm sorry. He goes toes out now all the time. He doesn't care. That's the reason why I felt okay mentioning it, because there's so many pictures, because he just wears sandals in public.

[Esther Povitsky]

You know, I Do have a friend who has similar feet, except the last three toes are in the air. They never touch ground. So he has his big toe down, his second toe down, and the three up here. So he walks around like.

[Annie Lederman]

This is your friend Bobby Lee?

[Esther Povitsky]

No, but Bobby has weird thumbs. He covers his thumbs. He hides his thumbs on his feet. Yeah. So he has like aerial toes that have never touched ground. But he is so agile. I am a little confused. Like he's.

[Link Neal]

Yeah, that's confusing.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

He seems at least ready for anything.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Annie Lederman]

What is your guys secret to like staying together? What's your tips?

[Link Neal]

You know, we celebrated 40 years of friendship. So at a certain point you're more of an old married couple than friends.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah.

[Link Neal]

And more of that than like brothers too.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Link Neal]

I think that is the best analogy. Old married couple. Because it's a given that we're going to be together. It's. It's almost beyond commitment. It's just like this is, this is our lifestyle.

[Annie Lederman]

This is not changing.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Right. So I'm putting up.

[Link Neal]

But I do think it never threatens anything.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

And I, I would call that commitment. Yes. But also loyalty. Right. I think we both have a fair amount of loyalty. I mean, we both have also been. He just celebrated 25 years of marriage. I'm celebrating 24 in like two days. And so we're committed people. We're pretty.

[Link Neal]

We're on your podcast every week from now on.

[Esther Povitsky]

Thank you.

[Link Neal]

This is now our new thing.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

There's not a lot of. We are very rarely if ever the source of drama in other friendships or groups of people or at our place or, you know, where we work. So I think that's a big part of it. Like we're not sources of drama for each other either. And so we just have this sort of. There's a little bit of built in loyalty, commitment. That's just part of our makeup. Because I think you kind of both have to have that.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Relationship that's going to stick around for, for a long time. I think that's. That's one ingredient.

[Esther Povitsky]

I do like that what you said, where it's like there's no threat to the friendship. You just know that, that it stays no matter what happens. That's how I feel with my sister. It's like no matter what, you know, no one's walking away from that relationship. And I feel like that's really special as to have that.

[Annie Lederman]

What about with me?

[Link Neal]

Yeah. Did you guys.

[Annie Lederman]

I mean, you can't.

[Link Neal]

If the starting point is ip, if we're talking about making Podcasts.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'll tell you the starting point.

[Link Neal]

Intellectual property here. That's not. That's no way to start a friendship.

[Esther Povitsky]

No. Our starting point was her showing her tits in a green room that.

[Annie Lederman]

Well, okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

And I said, wow, nice tits. That's how the friendships, though.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

That's a good start.

[Link Neal]

Can we.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Let's don't say let's recreate that, if that's what you want to say.

[Link Neal]

I was gonna say let's recreate that, but I was gonna say it seemed.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Like you might be about to say that.

[Link Neal]

Let's camp out on that a little bit because I'd like to know more the details.

[Esther Povitsky]

So she.

[Link Neal]

Maybe not. I don't. It's not. You could describe her topless. It's not that as really.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

It's like, what was going through each side? Who was going through your mind?

[Esther Povitsky]

So I had fake boobs at that time, and I think it was more her trying to bait me to show.

[Annie Lederman]

My boobs, and she wouldn't.

[Esther Povitsky]

And this is the first time I had met her, and we were in a green room because she was opening up for Bobby. At that time I was dating Bobby, and she was like, hi, I'm Esther. She's like, oh, my God, you're so hot. She's like, do you want to see my boobs? And I said, sure.

[Link Neal]

What you're talking about, is this the way you remember it?

[Annie Lederman]

I remember that, but I wouldn't have called upon that memory as the sort of our friendship. I would say, like, when I was in Australia and I was having, like, health problems. You had tonsillitis and we barely knew each other, and you were, like, texting me all day, helping me with my health problems.

[Link Neal]

That was after the boobs.

[Annie Lederman]

It was. But I didn't really feel the real connection.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

The boobs broke the ice.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

If you were, you know, around Bobby Lee, I mean, he'll show anything at any time. So there's, like. You can be influenced.

[Link Neal]

Are you an exhibitionist?

[Esther Povitsky]

No.

[Annie Lederman]

Is that part of his. That was just. No, that was like. I was super young and it was just girls. All girls in the room.

[Esther Povitsky]

Not all girls. That's the.

[Annie Lederman]

That's not true. Bobby was not there.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, I thought you meant all girls do this.

[Annie Lederman]

Oh, no, no.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

All girls. Do you know how girls do that?

[Link Neal]

Yeah, that was her line. All girls do this.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

That's how she tried to get you.

[Link Neal]

As she's doing it.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Reciprocate.

[Annie Lederman]

But I will say I do feel very secure in our relationship. Like, referencing what you Said, like, this isn't gonna end. Like, I do have a security there where I feel like maybe I didn't always. Cause I'm anxious attached. So I, you know, I feel like through good communication, like, I do feel secure now.

[Link Neal]

You mean you talked about your friendship, the status of it or whatever?

[Esther Povitsky]

Well, I mean, I'll say this.

[Annie Lederman]

Like, recently there was like some, like a little, you know, just a little something happened between us and I.

[Esther Povitsky]

What little something?

[Annie Lederman]

Remind me where I said something to you. And then you were like, well, I want to say something to you.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, yeah? Yeah.

[Annie Lederman]

And then I freaked out and I called her and I was like, I just want to say, like, I. Maybe we should, like, get a couple's therapist. And she's like, esther, everything's fine. And she's like, you're. This was like one small thing.

[Esther Povitsky]

It was the weirdest thing. I was getting an acai bowl, I remember. And she was like, hey, you know, I feel like I want to tell you something. And I texted back, sure, let me tell you some stuff too. Like, I want off my chest. And then I just continued to eat my acai bowl. Then I get this text from her.

[Annie Lederman]

Oh, Dai tech.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, no. You texted like, hey, I'm feeling really anxious about what you're about to tell me. And then you called me and you're like, do we need a couples therapists? Do we?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Oh, wow.

[Link Neal]

And I'm like, you hadn't even found out what the things were before you were going to therapy over it.

[Esther Povitsky]

No. And it was a nothing thing. It was nothing.

[Annie Lederman]

The way she reacted, though, to me.

[Link Neal]

Saying, you started it. That's the name.

[Annie Lederman]

She was like, what are you saying? It really felt like the way my partner has, like, reacted to me in the past, where it's like, you are so spinning out. Like, I am not. And that made me feel so secure.

[Esther Povitsky]

She thought I was gonna break up with her is what it was.

[Annie Lederman]

Not that, but like, you know, within an inch of it.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Annie Lederman]

When someone says, like, I need to tell you something.

[Link Neal]

Oh, I hate that.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Annie Lederman]

I'm like, she's. She's gonna break up. It's over. Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. That was so silly. Did make me giggle, though.

[Annie Lederman]

You guys are look really freaked out by what we just shared. You guys have nothing to say. You're scared for us.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

The observation I'm making is.

[Annie Lederman]

Oh, no.

[Link Neal]

Well, he has an observation to make.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I think that should get a therapist first. I mean, the fact that, I mean, and this is obviously a generalization between men and women, but I think the fact that you were ready to go the couples therapist route, it's like, there's not a lot of dudes, even though we've thought about doing it for entertainment purposes.

[Annie Lederman]

Oh, that would be fun.

[Link Neal]

That's probably why I brought it up.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

But I think that that is one of the things that's also true about our relationship, is that there are some more things about the way that we relate or communicate that are less common in male friendships. Oh, right. In terms of being honest with each other or talking about the state of your relationship. So it's not just talking about the things that you're both interested in or you're both working on, which, God knows, we've got a lot of those things that are. That's another ingredient. Inevitably, there are things that will happen where there's, like, resentment that will build about something, and we do a pretty good job of recognizing that that is happening and then having a conversation about it.

[Annie Lederman]

That's cool.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I would say that those types of conversations are yearly, and it's not like it's like, every week. And a lot of male friendships that just never happen.

[Link Neal]

There is this challenge when you're working together and you're creating something together, like this podcast and stuff that we do. It works best when the friendship fuels what you're making. You know, it's like, even at times on our podcast, we would have. We'd gotten into talking about something we didn't anticipate, and it would get a little heated or we'd kind of be at each other a little bit more. Yeah, that's an honest part of the relationship that I think we. I was glad that it came out on the podcast. I can't remember what it was. Maybe it was when we were arguing about if we were competitive or not.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Somehow that was one of the.

[Link Neal]

Ironically, it got really.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I was trying to convince him that.

[Link Neal]

He was competitive, and I was determined.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

To win the argument.

[Link Neal]

Win the argument of not being competitive. But it got real, you know, and it's an example of, I guess, a negative thing that's honest from a friendship fueling the content. But if you have to show up to make the show, and then you're trying to. You're counting on that to, like, fuel the friendship. You're in a danger zone.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's completely agree.

[Link Neal]

Like, we do so much. We create so much content. I mean, we've done almost. We're working on 3,000 episodes of Good Mythical Morning. That's five days a week. That's 20 minutes plus. Right. After it's the show. After the show, it's another 20 minutes. So that's 40 minutes of content every day. Sometimes we block shoot things, so we're not shooting it every single day. But so much of our friendship is on camera. And that's just good mythical morning. Good mythical more. Then you got like our podcast. There's just so much of this in front of the camera that what's going on behind the camera and is there enough actual friendship stuff happening that then it can kind of fill up the cup, so to speak?

[Annie Lederman]

Wait, is it kind of like when you are married and then you have a baby and it's like you still have to like, go on date night? Because.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah. And we. Because we've used that same analogy of the baby and because I would answer this question historically by saying, I think one of the keys to our friendship is the fact that we've got this baby together. This thing that we both care so deeply about, that we have created and we are nurturing and building through our career. I do think that is an important ingredient, because common interest and common goals and that, that is like, that's what keeps in the inevitability of us coming back together, coming into the same office over and over and over again. So you get that time together. Whereas if there's like somebody on the east coast that you don't see anymore, it's like that friendship's tough to maintain. So that is part of it. But yeah, there. There was a recognition a few years ago that, okay, it can't always. And this is something for me to recognize more than link. Because even when we're hanging out and it's not work related, I'll make it work related because I've got another idea I want to talk about. Let's move this idea forward. Even though we're just at this party with our friends, but now we're talking. So let's talk about work. I don't make the decision. It's just. It's on my mind.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah.

[Link Neal]

But I notice these things.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Link Neal]

So I'm. I'm more of like, sound the alarm. Hope I don't seem like a. Like a crybaby. What I've learned is that you got in a friendship, you've got to state your needs. And if you got something to talk about. Yeah. Send a text and say, I got something. I want to talk about it. Or maybe don't just start talking about it if that's gonna freak out the other person. But I think the thing that I learned Was it's up to me to represent my point of view and my needs in the friendship, and then it's up to him to respond. But I can't be getting upset and building stories in my mind about what he's not doing if we haven't talked about it. And then you can learn a lot from the response, you know, if you put your needs and your feelings out there in a sincere way. Well, if you do that right, then you can learn a lot from the response. Because it can either be like, well, I don't know what you're talking about, or it could be an argument, or it can be like, okay, we're speaking. We have different needs. We have different interests here. We have different points of view on this. But I can tell that Rhett is seeking to understand. He's seeking to hear me, and he's seeking to respond.

[Annie Lederman]

And that feels so safe, because all you really want is to be heard. And like, yeah, that's.

[Esther Povitsky]

You guys are.

[Annie Lederman]

It's shocking that you haven't been to a couple therapists because you guys sound.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Like you've been to individual therapists.

[Annie Lederman]

Okay. Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

But are you competitive?

[Link Neal]

No, I'm not. And I will die on that hill.

[Esther Povitsky]

Can I tell you, as someone super competitive, when I. When someone would say that I was competitive, it drove me nuts. It drove me absolutely nuts. It wasn't until you weren't, you didn't.

[Link Neal]

Know you were competitive.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm not naturally competitive. I was made to be competitive. My mom was someone who needed me to walk a very straight line, to be this all, like, succeeding young thing. Like, I. I had to be the best in my class. I had to be the best athlete. So I feel like maybe it's not in my nature. I was almost bred to be that way. And so when someone tells me, you are that way in my head, I'm like, I became something my mom wanted me to be. So I feel like it's a diss. But then, now I've accepted it as, you know what? If there's any kind of competition, my whole body lights up and I have to win. This is just who I am now. This is. Even if it wasn't in my nature to begin with, it's just who I am. So my therapist does not allow me to compete anymore at anything. But our therapist, my previous.

[Annie Lederman]

Oh, okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

So she. Because I wanted to compete in a spearfishing competition. Did I tell you this?

[Link Neal]

What competition?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Oh, you spearfish?

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, because I dive. Oh, so we both dive.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah. But I haven't spearfished yet, though. But we. But we're both scuba certified, and I got free diving certified last year.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, my God. You have to dive with me.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Link Neal]

So you can be better than him.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yes.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Let's see who's better.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, do you ever go dive for lobster or.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

No, I wanted to do that this year, like, because I. We have a guy who works with us who is, like, he wants to, you know, actually grab lobsters. Grab some lobsters this year.

[Esther Povitsky]

I will be so happy to take you, but it might give it a couple of years because the waters are a little.

[Link Neal]

You like holding your breath?

[Esther Povitsky]

I do love holding my breath. It's very meditative. I'm super anxious on land, so water is, like, the only place where I feel a little bit. Okay.

[Link Neal]

I like to breathe.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Breathing is fun.

[Link Neal]

I like breathing underwater, too.

[Annie Lederman]

It's called drowning.

[Link Neal]

No, no, no. It's called scuba diving.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah. Yeah, right?

[Link Neal]

What are we gonna do if they're gonna go free diving? I'm not gonna be holding my breath waiting on a lobster to come up either.

[Annie Lederman]

No. I will be on land waiting for you guys as, like, the safety captain. I do not. I don't know why this happens to me. I grew up as the misfit in a family of hunters and fishermen. I don't know why this is, like. I'm, like, having so much trauma come.

[Link Neal]

Up from this conversation.

[Annie Lederman]

I'm just sitting by myself making my great grandma grilled cheese while all the cousins are having fun. Do you guys hunt, too?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

No. I did growing up with my dad, but no. And I've thought about. Because I go back to North Carolina a lot, and I've got people who, like, invite me to hunt, and I always. My dad would only hunt, like, birds like duck, dove, quail.

[Link Neal]

And we can all agree they deserve it.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah, right? Like the symbol of peace. If there's a symbol of peace flying through the air, my dad would kill it. But we never went deer hunting. And it wasn't an ethical thing. It's just a sad story. But, like, my mom knew somebody who's. And this is actually pretty common, whose dad shot his own son and killed him while deer hunting. And so it was like this family story that was like, we don't deer hunt because of the thing that happened with my mom's friend growing up. But I'm like, should I keep carrying on that tradition? But also, like, if you talk, should.

[Link Neal]

I make a joke that he looked like a deer, Right?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Link Neal]

What should we do?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

He was wearing antlers. It Was Christmas. No. But if you, If I was like, I'm gonna go. I couldn't talk about it. There's people are so sensitive about it now. I feel like if I was like, I'm gonna, I, yeah, I'm going deer hunting. I feel like I would. We would lose like what percentage of our fans if I was like. Because people think it's murder.

[Esther Povitsky]

But those are the same people that sort of. There's a huge hypocrisy just with they probably consumption anyways. Just because it probably is. The most sustainable way to retrieve any kind of meat is to hunt. But it also is a luxury to do so.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Right.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's a luxury to spearfish. It's a luxury to go out and get elk everyday. Man can't just go off from work and for three days and you know, hunt this giant animal.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah. They're gonna go pay tens of thousands of dollars to take a week vacation to kill one.

[Esther Povitsky]

Exactly.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

You're right.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's a luxury to go to Alaska and you know, get your salmon, bring it back home and have it for the whole year. Like all of these things are in theory the most sustainable way. But it's like that's not our infrastructure. The way we live just doesn't allow for that.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Imagine in LA if everyone was like, we're gonna go into the mountains and.

[Annie Lederman]

I would be the first gathering. Guys, I know it. I just. First out.

[Esther Povitsky]

No, I'm putting you on my back and I'm saving you.

[Annie Lederman]

Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

Loyalty.

[Annie Lederman]

But you know, I want to go on your partner's back instead because he's stronger.

[Esther Povitsky]

He is stronger. He is also a better hunter and a better diver. All of it.

[Link Neal]

So he's a fan. How long you hold your breath?

[Esther Povitsky]

Not very long. I think my lungs are very average capacity.

[Link Neal]

Yeah, but you're swimming down to grab a lobster.

[Esther Povitsky]

The only difference between someone like you or me is that I've learned to calm myself.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Mental. It's mental.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's mental.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I mean, when we went.

[Link Neal]

So it's a, it's. I, I think it's one of my top fears.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

No, but see the thing is, is that when holding my breath when I was taken out with my son. So I, I did the freediving thing with my 16 year old and Hal, who taught us Catalina, and he was like, I'm gonna have you guys dive to the Jacques Cousteau like plaque, which is 40 like 43ft down today. He's like, I promise you on your first day, on one breath, you will die. 43ft and touch this thing. Both of you.

[Link Neal]

You have to. I mean, you have to.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

And I'm like, there's no way.

[Link Neal]

At least five times more than that.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah, you're basically the whole time. You're kind of doing it the whole time.

[Annie Lederman]

What is equalize?

[Esther Povitsky]

Equalizing. So you're a pressure. There's pressure. Right. When you descend, pressure builds in all of you.

[Link Neal]

I mean, you've been down in a pool. You go down six, eight feet, you have to equalize.

[Annie Lederman]

I've never done that. Thank you.

[Link Neal]

You've never been underwater?

[Annie Lederman]

Not really.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Not enough to feel the pressure on your ears. Yeah, it happens.

[Link Neal]

Pretty soon I'll take you underwater, but I'm not gonna be holding my breath long.

[Esther Povitsky]

One of my dreams is to take Esther shark diving.

[Annie Lederman]

I need to get the hole in my eardrum repaired first.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, that's right. That's right.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah. It might help you.

[Annie Lederman]

Oh, really?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I don't know.

[Link Neal]

But you got down to there.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

No, 43ft. It was after like an hour of the class. He was like, okay. And we just. All four of the people in the class, including my 16 year old, just went down there and touched it and came back up and. And you come up and you're like, oh, I still have like, more air. Like, it wasn't that long. It doesn't take that long to get down there and get back up.

[Esther Povitsky]

It really just is. It's a mental game.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

If it has. I mean, of course there is some skill involved, which is you have to know how to swim baseline.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

And you've got those big fins on that, like.

[Link Neal]

And a belt, they've got weight belt around their belt. Doesn't make them sink.

[Esther Povitsky]

But. But can I. Can I say the weight belt actually makes it easier because you're not using your muscles to descend. You're just letting yourself drop. So you save a lot of air in your lungs. This is what I'll say.

[Link Neal]

I know. You're right about the wind tool.

[Esther Povitsky]

I would love. I would love the challenge of helping you feel at ease in the water and hold your breath. I would love the challenge because I taught the young kids.

[Annie Lederman]

That's a fetish.

[Esther Povitsky]

It is a fetish.

[Annie Lederman]

You're freaky.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I'm freaky.

[Esther Povitsky]

I'm gonna take shark eyes.

[Annie Lederman]

Are you looking into his eyes? I would love.

[Link Neal]

Just go. Just choke me right now. I mean, I'll get choked on dry land.

[Esther Povitsky]

But then that. To me, I'm terrified of the idea of gasping for air on land. Like, I have this thing called pots. It's an autoimmune. Like this autonomia. And so I have, like, air hunger. I have this anxiety that I'm not breathing or like my. My. Some part of my brain is not, you know, regulating my automatic breathing. And I start to, like, have anxiety about my breath here.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Right.

[Esther Povitsky]

But it doesn't translate in the water. So you and I have the opposite thing.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Being in the water helps you with that. You don't think about it.

[Esther Povitsky]

I don't think about it. But. But please, why don't.

[Link Neal]

Why don't you just hold your breath on land?

[Esther Povitsky]

I can. It's just there's something about the water and the pressure that feels like it. It's hugging you.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Right?

[Esther Povitsky]

And it feels like it. If you have, like, anxiety issues, I think, like, you know, sensory deprivation, tanks, anything water related is always helpful, I think.

[Link Neal]

Okay.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Annie Lederman]

Do you guys have parenting advice for us? We're new parents.

[Link Neal]

How old are these?

[Annie Lederman]

One in the one world of one.

[Esther Povitsky]

We're under one.

[Link Neal]

Oh, God, y' all.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Annie Lederman]

How old are your kids? You guys have survived.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

We have a full ass adults at this point. We've got three between the two of us in college. He's got two in college. I got one in college and two in high school. We're on, like, we literally just have one kid home each at this point.

[Link Neal]

Yep. So 22. My oldest daughter. 22.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

21.

[Link Neal]

21. And then my middle son is 2016 and then 15.

[Esther Povitsky]

Do your kids realize who you are and how cool you are, or are they just.

[Link Neal]

Dad, I haven't kept a secret.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

They're aware of our.

[Link Neal]

I'm not leading a double life, but it's always been a part. I mean, like the 15 year old, it's always been a part of his life. And, you know, sometimes over the years we get our kids to appear very occasionally in stuff. So my youngest, who's now 15, Lando. He and shepherd came on the show when they were like 10. 10 years. Like 9 and 10. I can't remember. We were playing some game on the show and it was if you could pass a note to Abraham Lincoln or.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Something, if you could go back in time, what would you say to Abraham Lincoln?

[Link Neal]

Go back to. Yeah. And he said, you want to go to a play? And it just like it went viral on TikTok and well, I guess it was Instagram at the time. And so like, here he is going into middle school and like, everybody's recognizing him from this clip by that point is years old and it just keeps coming back and he's like, oh, my God, I hate the fact that you bribed me with a Lego set to come on the show and do this.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

But that tells you. But also, it tells you a little something about. Because some kids would be like, hell, yeah, I'm the.

[Link Neal]

Oh, yeah, that would have changed my.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

You would have been like, yeah, here. You want to go to a play? You would have been saying it to everybody.

[Link Neal]

Yeah, you want to go to a Playboy.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

He got that reticence from Christy. He didn't get the not wanting to be in the spotlight from you.

[Link Neal]

So he got a taste of it, and he didn't like it, and it keeps coming back. But he's all right now. Yeah, he looks different enough now that I think it's starting to not have an impact.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah. I mean, my kids, especially my oldest one, was. He didn't want. He was really wary of people becoming his friends because he was my son, but way too much, like, to a point that, like, if he sensed it.

[Link Neal]

At all, I'm not your friend anymore. I see what you're up to. Right.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

But it's funny because when I was moving him into college, I was like, okay, like, I'm gonna. You know, I'll, like, help you move in, but I'm gonna wear, like, a hat and sunglasses or whatever. I don't want you to be recognized. And he was like, no, no, don't worry about it. He says, you know, I'm going. I'm a freshman. I can use all the help I could get. So, like, he completely, like, changed his tune. So. Yeah, I think they kind of go through this evolution.

[Link Neal]

Yeah, they have to put up with some. Some crap, but, yeah, I mean, we take nice vacations.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Oh, a banana break.

[Esther Povitsky]

Are you guys. Well, you know, on this show, we usually.

[Link Neal]

Yeah, so we usually have a banana break.

[Esther Povitsky]

We do have a banana break on the show. And it's something that I selfishly started because I am a banana freak, but also banana because I have a heart condition. I eat a banana every single day. I don't think I've ever gone without a banana for years.

[Annie Lederman]

Because of your heart condition.

[Esther Povitsky]

That's sort of where it started. I always loved banana. Yeah, Potassium. But today, we have two bananas. And why Stella? Well, because it's sort of a Rhett and Link banana break collab. Okay. One of them is from a very expensive grocery store.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Are we gonna not say the name of the grocery store?

[Esther Povitsky]

I guess we can, right?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Is it Erewhon?

[Esther Povitsky]

It's. Yeah.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah. We love tasting stuff from marijuana.

[Link Neal]

You got An Erewhon banana and then.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Trying to figure out if, was it worth it.

[Esther Povitsky]

Esther, watch. Watch how he's opening the banana.

[Annie Lederman]

Oh, he's doing it the Joe Rogan way.

[Link Neal]

Am I?

[Esther Povitsky]

Well, it's the ape way.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

It's the. Yeah, it's the monkey way.

[Link Neal]

It's the monkey way. I, I don't want to say I do anything the Joe Rogan way.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I don't. I, I don't do that. I, I. This is a handle.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Right.

[Annie Lederman]

Oh, yeah.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

That's what I mean. What's wrong with that?

[Link Neal]

It's not how the monkeys do it, so that's not how I do it.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

You know what? We've evolved, okay?

[Esther Povitsky]

So one is definitely smaller than the other. They are both Cavendish bananas.

[Annie Lederman]

What'd you say?

[Esther Povitsky]

Cavendish is the only variety that Americans eat. I don't understand why.

[Link Neal]

Huh?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Cause there's. You know what? There's a lot. I learned this when I was in Portugal. There's all kinds of other bananas.

[Esther Povitsky]

I grew up eating red bananas, Saba bananas.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Have you had a pineapple banana?

[Esther Povitsky]

I've had apple.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

There's apple bananas, and pineapple bananas.

[Esther Povitsky]

What's a pineapple banana? Is it small, too?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

It's small, but it looks like it's got, like, the outside of a pineapple. But then you start breaking all the pieces in their banana.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, whoa. I've never had that. I have had a banana full of seeds. In the Philippines, we call them, like, the wild, like, Pacol. And they are inedible because it's just, like, thousands of seeds.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah. I believe in genetic engineering when it comes to getting the seeds out of them.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay, what are you thinking?

[Annie Lederman]

Okay, one smells a lot better than the other to me.

[Link Neal]

And that's all you've done, is sniff.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

One has a stronger banana smell? Is that what you're saying?

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah. And the other one is, like, almost like nothing.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

The Chiquita has a strong.

[Link Neal]

One got a Chiquita sticker on it. Y' all got to be taking the stickers off.

[Annie Lederman]

Wait, okay, so I need.

[Link Neal]

Are you guys selling Chiquita at.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Hold on. The other one's Dole. I mean, what. Dole and Chiquita are, like, the two big banana brands.

[Link Neal]

Mine don't have either.

[Annie Lederman]

Which one's from Erewhon?

[Link Neal]

Well, no, no, don't say.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, she said it.

[Link Neal]

That's the whole point of the first.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

We were gonna guess that.

[Link Neal]

Can I be told?

[Esther Povitsky]

We don't do it every day, so we're gonna.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

We were gonna guess that.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay, okay, hang on.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

We were gonna say the one that was more banana, like is from Erewhon.

[Annie Lederman]

The Erewhon one smells way better.

[Esther Povitsky]

Does it? I didn't believe there would be a difference.

[Link Neal]

I don't think there would be and I don't think there is.

[Annie Lederman]

Is it just the smell? What's the taste?

[Esther Povitsky]

The taste wise. What's the small one? It's not the error one.

[Link Neal]

Well, this the one with the blue.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Do you know what it is?

[Link Neal]

Mine's got blue paint on it.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I think it's less the banana and more the ripe level. Because I think that Chiquita is more ripe and so it's giving off more because like, I actually like the dull better because I like a slightly. Once it starts getting ripe, it's just. I don't like it as much. I don't like a green banana. But like right after it's green, I'm with you, you know, that's the best time.

[Annie Lederman]

That is the best time.

[Esther Povitsky]

Klila, what do you think?

[Annie Lederman]

You're the pro.

[Esther Povitsky]

The smaller one from where? Ralph's.

[Link Neal]

Oh, I don't think you need to buy produce there. They need to add some value to the riper one. But like they need to add colostrum to their. They gotta do something to make me think I need to pay for it.

[Annie Lederman]

And these like added Omega 3s push.

[Link Neal]

A banana off the back of a truck and say it's Erewhon.

[Annie Lederman]

That's the thing with bananas is that you were saying they're all from the same manufacturer probably.

[Esther Povitsky]

I mean, like they said dol Chiquita.

[Link Neal]

Like there's mother Nature.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

There's some dark shit with these companies. Right. Like Dole especially. Right. Doesn't it Banana Republic. Yeah. I don't know about the state of the state of these affairs now. So, you know, for legal purpose, the.

[Link Neal]

Term banana republic comes from like the.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Banana trade and that. Like the nefarious way that the business is run in the South Americas. Yeah, Bananas. We would take people out of government. Just people have died. Good deals.

[Esther Povitsky]

Well, another thing about bananas is because we love the Cavendish variety, they stay pretty on shelves for long. We keep pushing for this variety and we are losing other varieties. But there's this particular fungus that takes over that is really, really contagious in banana plantations. Let's say, for instance, one banana has it. Then they have to like burn down the whole farm. So basically, if we're pushing one variety, we're gonna lose bananas in the next like 30 years is what they're saying. Which is.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

And we do that with everything, right? Like the monoculture.

[Link Neal]

So you're. You're a red banana advocate?

[Esther Povitsky]

Red banana, Saba Banana, apple, banana. Can we get those here in Hawaii? When I go, they have a good variety, but not here.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Link Neal]

I want to tell you, I have never felt more neutral about any food than bananas. I am like, so Switzerland on these. I could take it or leave.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Well, it's better than you used to just not like them.

[Link Neal]

I used to not like them, and I've been on a journey to become neutral towards them. And I think that today I have achieved it. I think today is the day that I figured out that I finally, on my journey, hit the neutral point.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Okay, well, that means you're on your way.

[Annie Lederman]

How did you get here?

[Link Neal]

I just kept being given bananas.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Like, well, I think it's mostly shame.

[Link Neal]

You know, it's mostly like soccer league banana. And then this guy here, he's like, hey, or eat a banana. Here, eat a banana. All the time he's offering a banana pusher.

[Esther Povitsky]

Wait, that's what I am to her. I'm a banana pusher. Do you like banana flavored things?

[Link Neal]

No.

[Esther Povitsky]

Bananas in pies or.

[Link Neal]

No.

[Esther Povitsky]

So zero banana?

[Link Neal]

The only thing that I like is just a banana.

[Annie Lederman]

That is super neutral.

[Link Neal]

I can say it's not that I like it, it's just that I am completely 100% neutral.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

What about when it's on a stick covered in chocolate?

[Link Neal]

Never had that.

[Annie Lederman]

What about banana pancakes?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

No, those are so.

[Link Neal]

They get slimy. Don't want it.

[Esther Povitsky]

Gosh, I really want you to taste this thing called Turon. God, what a missed opportunity.

[Link Neal]

Well, we'll have more opportunities. This is the beginning.

[Esther Povitsky]

What is Turon is just like with Esther fried banana. It's wrapped in kind of like a phyllo kind of. And it's deep fried.

[Link Neal]

Oh, like a plant.

[Annie Lederman]

Oh, my God. Wait, PF Chang's.

[Link Neal]

I can do that.

[Annie Lederman]

P F. Chang's has banana spring rolls. I'm sorry to be so white, but they're so good. Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

Similar.

[Annie Lederman]

No, with a caramel sauce, like fried.

[Esther Povitsky]

And so this is the Filipino Toronto.

[Link Neal]

And that's basically what's Steven Tyler's toe.

[Annie Lederman]

That's what they have at PF Chang.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

That would be good.

[Esther Povitsky]

This will turn any banana hater.

[Link Neal]

I'm neutral.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay.

[Link Neal]

You know, you were talking about the sensory deprivation tank. You can't tell when the water stops and the air begins and your body exists. That's how I feel about bananas right now. And I know I keep talking about it, but I just can't tell you how special this is for me.

[Esther Povitsky]

Not to steal your neutrality thunder, but I feel the exact same way about apples. I'm neither here nor there about them. It's like, yeah, if they're there, I'll have a nibble. But I don't feel this feeling in my chest. But I also don't hate them.

[Annie Lederman]

Wait. And I eat an apple every day and I'm like religious about my whole life.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

What's your favorite type of apple?

[Annie Lederman]

It has to be honeycrisp. Like everything else is actually disgusting to me.

[Link Neal]

Every day.

[Annie Lederman]

Every day. A pinch of tart.

[Link Neal]

A teacher or something.

[Annie Lederman]

Well, I do it because I famously, every day I make this mix of Greek yogurt with peanut butter. Whip that up, slice your apple, dip it. It is you guys. Oh, shit, it's so good.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Greek yogurt and peanut butter.

[Annie Lederman]

And peanut butter.

[Link Neal]

Famously.

[Annie Lederman]

Famously.

[Link Neal]

You've gotten famous for this.

[Annie Lederman]

Yes.

[Link Neal]

And what's it called?

[Annie Lederman]

It doesn't have a name. It probably should.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Annie Lederman]

Whip that up. Dip your apple slices in. You've got protein, you've got fiber, you've got flavor. Sweet, tart. It's so good.

[Link Neal]

But you dip a banana in it.

[Annie Lederman]

No, no.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Apple. Yes, a honey crisp.

[Link Neal]

You're the banana one.

[Annie Lederman]

He can't tell us apart.

[Esther Povitsky]

I thought long and hard about this, and I know you guys have tried every single snack in the world, and you're probably super snack experts. I've brought to studio today some of my favorite, childhood favorite Filipino snacks. Now, there are American comps. There are similar things that you guys probably grew up on over here, and I want to know if you can tell the difference.

[Link Neal]

Okay? Filipino snack.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

There's a chance that we've had these, but we will not remember that we've had them because that ends up happening to us on a regular basis.

[Esther Povitsky]

Both of these are barbecue flavored chips. One is Filipino and one is American. And I need you to tell me what you think.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

These look like American barbecue cheese.

[Esther Povitsky]

The other ones say more, but the.

[Annie Lederman]

Other ones look American too. Cause they look like Fritos.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Well, I'm just kinda folding. Those are like Fritos, but Fritos usually are just corn flavored or like chili flavored or so just, I mean, just.

[Link Neal]

Kind of just feels like a lay's bbq.

[Esther Povitsky]

Which one did you try first? The right one to the.

[Link Neal]

Yeah, the orange ones.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

That tastes pretty nostalgic. So.

[Link Neal]

But this, that might be a clue. These Fritos are good. These are, I don't know what they are.

[Annie Lederman]

I don't think this is a good comparison because one is a potato chip and one is a Frito. So whoever designed this game.

[Link Neal]

Already, you know what? We'll have a post mortem later. For now, let's just go with it.

[Annie Lederman]

Okay, you're right.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

These are Filipino.

[Link Neal]

No, I'm thinking these Fritos have to be Filipino. Filipifrito.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah, I'm thinking the Frito ones are Filipino and the other ones are just your classic American barbecue.

[Link Neal]

I don't even know if this is barbecue on these Fritos.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

They're good.

[Esther Povitsky]

They're both barbecue.

[Annie Lederman]

Wait, what do you.

[Link Neal]

It's salty.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah.

[Link Neal]

It's savory. But it's really good. But it's because it's not barbecue to me.

[Annie Lederman]

Why do you think that that's the Filipino one? Cause we disagree.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Because it's not the kind of thing that I can explain. It's a little bit like. It was just like my body reacted. It reacted.

[Esther Povitsky]

I said, boom. Filipino.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

It was just like something about it was a little bit different than my experience, and I can't describe it.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay, the correct answer is the both.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Of you gotta be.

[Esther Povitsky]

These are called chippy. Childhood favorite. They're supposed to be barbecue flavored. I don't quite. I see what you're saying. Chippy. Chippy. Called chippy.

[Link Neal]

It's very good, but it tastes like.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

A Frito with a slight something on it.

[Annie Lederman]

I'll be the racist one. I don't like them. I'll take one for the team. No chippy. It's like fake barbecue. I do like Fritos and I do love. But I also. You know what, to be fair, I love barbecue chips. Like, if that would be my last meal, like, that is my favorite food. So comparing anything. I know comparing anything to barbecue chips is not going to be.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

We recently did the tier ranking of chips, and we both put barbecue very low.

[Annie Lederman]

That's psychotic. What did you put above it?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Everything else.

[Annie Lederman]

What name names? What's number one through five?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Cheddar. Sour cream was S tier Best chip.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Annie Lederman]

Okay. Okay.

[Link Neal]

Lay's sour cream and onion. A classic.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Sour cream and onion.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Salt and vinegar was above it. Yes.

[Annie Lederman]

These are all good.

[Esther Povitsky]

Salt and vinegar. I think you're sorry, Esther.

[Annie Lederman]

No, no, no. Those are all good. But bar barbecue is still just as good, if not better.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

You know what? I think for us, it's because we're from the south and barbecue is not a sauce. Barbecue is the meat itself. And so. But then barbecue flavor became A specific type of sauce that actually, we don't put on any of our stuff in North Carolina, so it's cultural, and so, yeah, it's. We have this, like, aversion.

[Esther Povitsky]

Next up, we have.

[Annie Lederman]

Wait, now I just want to eat chips.

[Esther Povitsky]

These aren't quite.

[Annie Lederman]

These are not the way.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay, you guys. To talk. I was a friend buying the Filipino snacks, and I said, hey, what is a comp? And it was hard to find something similar.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Right. Yeah, these are.

[Esther Povitsky]

And to be fair, she said, it's a chip that's barbecue. That was all she gave me for the first one and for the second.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah, you did better than her.

[Esther Povitsky]

Pretend your eyes are closed and you're tasting just for flavor. Just for flavor.

[Link Neal]

Yeah.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, not for love.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

We should be blow away from, like, that's what it was.

[Esther Povitsky]

Which ones are Filipino and which ones are American?

[Link Neal]

This looks like a. Like one of those big millstones.

[Annie Lederman]

This tastes like a Salerno butter cookie, which is American, but, like, a different version.

[Link Neal]

Very crunchy.

[Annie Lederman]

I mean, these are a gas station classic for me. These are. And in fact, when I was little, we did a blindfolded taste test in my family of if you could tell the difference between chocolate, strawberry, and vanilla. And everyone in my family failed.

[Link Neal]

I think this family doesn't taste well.

[Annie Lederman]

No, they just. They were all the same.

[Link Neal]

Oh, they were all the same.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah.

[Link Neal]

You weren't the problem.

[Annie Lederman]

No, I swear. I'm sorry.

[Link Neal]

Is this like, a tim tam slam?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

No. The cookie might be too hard for an American.

[Link Neal]

It's a wafer, this one, and it will soak up carbs.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I don't know.

[Esther Povitsky]

That is the funniest thing.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

We don't like to work too hard with our food.

[Esther Povitsky]

The cookie's too hard to be.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah. So that's where I'm going. I think that's Filipino. I think the cookie's Filipino.

[Annie Lederman]

I think so, too.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yes. The cookie is Filipino. They're called chorritos. Great job, everyone.

[Link Neal]

All right. You've tasted them already.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Okay, so this looks like a nacho cheese Dorito.

[Annie Lederman]

These are both, like, nacho cheese Dorito from a foreign country.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

This is why sometimes we.

[Link Neal]

They make us get blindfolded.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

You get blindfolded when we do this thing.

[Link Neal]

See all the things we learned. It's just a God.

[Annie Lederman]

Doritos are so good.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

An American company would not let a tortilla chip that small get out the factory. You know what I mean?

[Link Neal]

Because look, it's three. Three of these makes one of a Dorito.

[Annie Lederman]

Oh, my God. Doritos are. They will ruin my life. They are that girl that will, like. I will quit my job. I will just miss my shows tonight. Like these. Ooh, they're so good.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

They're so good. Have you had the Cool Ranch Taco Bell shell? No. The Cool Ranch Flamin. Hot. Cool Ranch Doritos.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yes. Yes.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Those are really, really good.

[Esther Povitsky]

So good. What do we think, guys?

[Link Neal]

Well, it's like, are these little Filipino ones cheese, too?

[Esther Povitsky]

Well, you know, we say cheese, but we don't quite know.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Right? You don't mean cheese.

[Esther Povitsky]

We might not mean cheese. We're not a big, like, dairy country.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Right.

[Link Neal]

Okay.

[Esther Povitsky]

Just, you know, humor me. What do you think?

[Link Neal]

Well, they taste good. If I don't expect cheese.

[Esther Povitsky]

Well, this is.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Okay, they're no Dorito.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah, yeah. Nothing.

[Esther Povitsky]

You're all obviously an easy one. They're called Mr. Chips and Mr. Chips, the Doritos that I are Doritos growing up, which is why when we would go to the more fancy supermarkets back home and there was Doritos on the shelves, it was like, oh, my God, like, the light would shine, and it was like the holy grail of all chips. Because otherwise, we just had Mr. Chips, which is nacho cheese flavor.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Right? There's no real nacho cheese in that chip.

[Annie Lederman]

I mean, to be fair, there probably isn't real nacho cheese on the Doritos.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Oh, I bet there is.

[Annie Lederman]

Really?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Let's look it up, because now I'm curious.

[Link Neal]

I like how all of these are made. The last round in this round by Jack and Jill.

[Esther Povitsky]

Jack and Jill is a big, Like.

[Link Neal]

A big brand or something.

[Esther Povitsky]

Snack company. Yeah. Okay, this one is the chocolate.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Real cheese. Yeah.

[Annie Lederman]

I mean, we should have been blindfolded. It's, like, obvious. The ones that are turned upside down probably say Hershey's on them.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

No, no, no, no. You don't know that. You don't know that.

[Esther Povitsky]

Just go by flavor.

[Link Neal]

I just want to make sure nobody's getting fired over this.

[Esther Povitsky]

No one's getting fired.

[Link Neal]

This is great.

[Annie Lederman]

Kayla is getting fired.

[Link Neal]

The Hershey's one tasted very Hershey's. This one. I mean, it looks like a. Oh.

[Annie Lederman]

The Filipino one is better.

[Esther Povitsky]

Thank you.

[Link Neal]

Swirl.

[Esther Povitsky]

It's one of my favorites.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

It's a bit chalky.

[Link Neal]

It's got a kind of poop emoji.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

You know what I'm saying?

[Esther Povitsky]

It is poop emoji. It's not poop, but it's spook emoji quality. The vibe is they're Called curly tops.

[Annie Lederman]

The Hershey's one tastes more like straight sugar. In a bad way.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Link Neal]

I don't.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I'm not a huge fan of Hershey's chocolate, but this feels like there's something else in there, too, that makes it a little bit chalky. Like, I feel like I could actually write on all of the curly sidewalk with it.

[Link Neal]

Tastes like Easter candy to me. In a good way.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah. I can't vouch for the ingredients, but good luck on the toilet today. But. What the fuck? Just kidding. Just kidding. It's fine. Okay, here's where I think. Hang on. Can I see?

[Link Neal]

What?

[Esther Povitsky]

There's more?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah. Yeah. So one's a Snickers bar, and one is. Yeah, you know what? This. It's a different game. We just made a different game.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

Hey, close your eyes. All of you.

[Link Neal]

I'm closing my eyes.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Okay.

[Link Neal]

I hope I'm not the only one.

[Annie Lederman]

I'm not closing my eyes.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

All right. I'm not gonna look.

[Link Neal]

So you can see me closing mine.

[Esther Povitsky]

And it's gonna go straight into your mouth, if that's okay, so you don't feel the turkey.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Okay. Okay.

[Link Neal]

But just tell me when you're feeding me, because I don't want to have a feed me look on my face the whole time.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay, here we go. It's coming.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

That's Filipino. The first one you just gave me.

[Esther Povitsky]

Why?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Because it's not Snickers.

[Annie Lederman]

Damn it.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Damn it.

[Link Neal]

It's nougat, though.

[Esther Povitsky]

It is nougat.

[Link Neal]

I like nougat.

[Esther Povitsky]

Do you taste the nougat?

[Link Neal]

It's like if you gave a haircut to a Snickers and removed the caramel and the peanuts.

[Annie Lederman]

So you mean a Three Musketeers?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah, the Three Musketeers. I don't think that's as good as the Three Musketeers. I don't have that here.

[Link Neal]

Because we have a hairy.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah, the nougat is not. It hasn't been. Whatever they do to the nougat in a Three Musketeers to make it so soft you can open your eyes. No, I don't want to. I wanted to keep. I was in a very special place.

[Esther Povitsky]

Sorry. You're in a fugue state.

[Link Neal]

I'm gonna close mine again.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

So you like that a lot.

[Esther Povitsky]

Cloud 9 was our nougat bar. Back home, they're called Cloud Nines. I do think I did prefer them over the Three Musketeers growing up.

[Annie Lederman]

Why?

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, maybe because I ate it more or it's more nostalgic, but I do think it's superior.

[Link Neal]

Are you shocked to see the snack aisles? I mean, I don't get out that much anymore, but, like, I mean, I gotta pick up a prescription every now and again at cvs or maybe bop into a gas station restroom. But I'm not a sweet tooth kind of guy. I am fearful of the amount of candy that's on these aisles. Like, it strikes fear into my soul. Like, I just can't believe I don't buy any.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I just eat it. On our show, how it works, there's.

[Link Neal]

So much of it on the show. We don't interact with it in the real world. Except in those two instances when I just see it on the shelves, I'm like, how is this possible? This is scary.

[Annie Lederman]

It's so crazy. The, like, soda and candy combos that they're like, I just saw a billboard for Sprite tea, and on Christmas time, it's cranberry Sprite. Like, they're just combining and doing everything now where I feel like if that was happening when I was 7, like, I would have had to go to rehab. Like, I can't believe what they're doing to all of us. It's just. It's out of control. Like, the. The very.

[Link Neal]

And they don't have the little ones. Like, I'm just. I just want a little peanut butter. I'm a treat. I went in a gas station, I was like, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna treat myself. I'm gonna get something with peanut butter and something with chocolate. And then everything was mega sized. And I couldn't. I was like, I can't. I. I can't buy this much candy in one package. I walked out of there with some almonds.

[Annie Lederman]

Oh, that hurts. Don't share that publicly after all that.

[Link Neal]

But they were elote flavored.

[Annie Lederman]

Oh, that sounds good.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

So I'm guessing this is Filipino.

[Annie Lederman]

Oh, is this the one where you.

[Esther Povitsky]

Said you could eat. You could eat the rabbit? The Filipinos made it big. I think more Filipinos love it than Japanese people. They're called white rabbit.

[Link Neal]

Oh, yes, I know about these.

[Esther Povitsky]

Growing up, we were told that the inside wrapper was edible. I don't know how true that is. That inside little paper.

[Link Neal]

Now you're gonna watch us eat it.

[Esther Povitsky]

I mean, I ate it growing up.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I think it is.

[Link Neal]

Oh, look at that. So thin.

[Esther Povitsky]

So, yeah, they would say, like, always eat it.

[Annie Lederman]

Why?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Cause you need more. What's on the inside of it gets.

[Link Neal]

Really soft in your mouth.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

A water bottle. You're not supposed to Put in your body bpa.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, it's got more bpa, but it's basically like milky, milky candy.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

You can't get it off anyway, so you might as well eat it.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Link Neal]

Oh, that's why you're not protecting.

[Annie Lederman]

I'm, like, nervous.

[Esther Povitsky]

Like. Like, take a nibble and lick it.

[Annie Lederman]

Oh, yeah. You can't get the wrapper off.

[Link Neal]

I wish that that wrapper wasn't on it, but now it's gone. It's kind of like putting a gel cap in your mouth and letting it melt just so you can taste the drugs. You do that?

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Annie Lederman]

This is great.

[Link Neal]

I don't want these drugs to just work for me. I want to taste system.

[Annie Lederman]

It's not doing much for me.

[Esther Povitsky]

No.

[Link Neal]

It's very vanilla.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Once you break into it. Tastes like vanilla, which doesn't happen immediately.

[Annie Lederman]

It's not easy. You look like you're struggling.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

It's pretty good.

[Link Neal]

Yeah.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Relax your brows.

[Link Neal]

Your brows so tall.

[Esther Povitsky]

They're a little bit of, like, jawbreakers.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

For sure.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah.

[Annie Lederman]

Well, how do you feel now that you made us all do that?

[Esther Povitsky]

I am really happy that you're tasting a bit of my childhood.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

I mean, a little bit sad that maybe, you know, the chips don't.

[Link Neal]

You know, nothing is comparable, but it's all good when not compared.

[Esther Povitsky]

Good point.

[Link Neal]

So I hope that makes you. Oh, that's a compliment.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, it is.

[Annie Lederman]

It's like, if I'm the only girl. If I'm the only girl in the room, I look really good. But when you start to put, like, Sydney Sweeney and other people, pretty people nearby, it's like, then I'm a Filipino candy.

[Link Neal]

Come on now.

[Esther Povitsky]

You know, I.

[Link Neal]

Well, that's not true.

[Esther Povitsky]

While Sydney Sweeney. I know. Is every boy's cream dream. I will choose you, Esther.

[Annie Lederman]

Thank you.

[Esther Povitsky]

If I were to just put on my lesbian hat, I'd choose you.

[Annie Lederman]

Thank you.

[Link Neal]

You're welcome.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

She is. I don't know if you heard this. I just saw this this morning. She's selling soap made from her used bath water.

[Esther Povitsky]

Bath water?

[Link Neal]

It's a gimmick.

[Annie Lederman]

You think?

[Esther Povitsky]

Oh, I thought she was just selling her bath water. So it's so.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

It's so that has.

[Annie Lederman]

It's made with her bath water.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Bath water in it.

[Esther Povitsky]

Isn't that what La Mer is? Is? No, La Mer is basically like, stock product that they, like, bless. Right. Or they make while, like, a shaman is doing something in the background that's different.

[Annie Lederman]

To me, this is completely unhygienic. Like, this is something that only men would Purchase. Because a woman is not gonna buy something from another woman's bath water. Like, I don't know.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I think they knew that going in.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah. Like, she could have a vaginal infection and not know it. Like, it just doesn't seem safe.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. I guess I should throw it away.

[Esther Povitsky]

Totally a gimmick. And is it something that she's just doing for. To promote something?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

It's something she got talked into, I'm sure from. Because it's that company. Is it Dr. Squatch or.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, it is. Dr. Scotch. Yeah.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah. So, you know, they were like, oh.

[Esther Povitsky]

Which is a men's brand.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Somebody. Oh, yeah. Some dude had an idea, like, Sydney Sweeney. What can we do? Well, what I think about when I think about Sydney Sweeney is her bath water. And next thing you know.

[Link Neal]

Is it really happening, though?

[Annie Lederman]

Yes.

[Link Neal]

Is she getting in a bath?

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah.

[Link Neal]

How many baths? Did she, like, show up at a factory that had a bunch of baths laid out for her, and then she, like, hopped into one, and then the next day.

[Annie Lederman]

I think you just need a tiny drop for probably what they did.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I'm guessing what they did is they had the water that they were gonna use for this one batch, and they were like. I mean, technically, if she sticks her finger in this water, it counts. Like, you know, they probably. Or just stick your hands in this water.

[Link Neal]

So you don't. Then that's not a bath.

[Esther Povitsky]

My guess is define a bath.

[Link Neal]

Yeah, a bath.

[Esther Povitsky]

A bath queen.

[Link Neal]

You've got to be.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Well, a sponge bath.

[Link Neal]

A bath is not a thing. When you put your finger in it.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah. You gotta get your fingers.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Well, what is it?

[Annie Lederman]

It's a finger bath in your pussy in the bath.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Well, that's certainly what they're selling, is the idea that the water has touched her in places that you would like to touch her.

[Link Neal]

But you gotta submerge the.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah.

[Link Neal]

Submersibles.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Esther Povitsky]

I think we compete. I think, Esther, I think we sell your bath water.

[Annie Lederman]

That's true. I take a bath every day. I haven't had a shower in, like, seven years. So, Yeah, I would have a lot of bath. Backstock of bath water for us.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Regardless of how much time you don't have.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

No, it's not even on the road.

[Annie Lederman]

Even on the road. Yeah.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

How do you work that out? Because sometimes. Because a lot of these hotel showers now are just like the half glass and then just like an opening until you fill the whole bathroom.

[Annie Lederman]

So I'll say this. I can go surprisingly long time without bathing if I need to.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Okay. Now you know your secret.

[Link Neal]

You were just waiting for a bath every time.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah, I just don't.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

What are you scared of with those showers?

[Annie Lederman]

Showers just make me so physically uncomfortable. Like, I feel like there's no way to stay warm. Like, the. The water. It's not enough water hitting your body at once. I'm also short, so the thing is so far away. Like, it's just. I'm not good pressure ever, no matter what.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Okay. It's very rain. Like, for you. No matter.

[Annie Lederman]

No matter what. Yes. And I even attached a shower head, like, at my bathtub so that I could sit and then, like, wash my hair, like, under the.

[Esther Povitsky]

How do you make sure? Like, what is your time limit then? Because the water does get cold. Like, I feel opposite.

[Annie Lederman]

You add hot water in the second it gets cold. Not the whole time. You just. It's. Yeah, I'll show you. I'm. I like to call myself a bathtub technician.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

You let the drain go a little bit, put hot water.

[Annie Lederman]

You do that.

[Link Neal]

You do it. You just slide your butt over and activate the drain. Hands free.

[Annie Lederman]

No, no, not hands free.

[Esther Povitsky]

And I have a question.

[Link Neal]

Well, then you're not quite the queen I thought you were.

[Esther Povitsky]

Since technician, tell me, when you wash your nethers, is that the last step, and then you immediately leave the bath?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Great question.

[Annie Lederman]

Why?

[Esther Povitsky]

Or do you sit in your nether debris?

[Annie Lederman]

Yes, and I bathe in my filth and my nether debris. Yeah. Is that what you want to hear? You feel good now?

[Esther Povitsky]

You like, that's what I assumed about you as well.

[Annie Lederman]

Okay, so you knew.

[Esther Povitsky]

So, yeah, that's what you wash and then you sit in it.

[Annie Lederman]

It's 99% water and 1% nether debris. I'm fine.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah, you'll probably be all right.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah, it's enough.

[Link Neal]

That's what they told Sydney Sweeney.

[Annie Lederman]

Oh, my God. Rhett and Link, thank you so much for coming today and being on our show. This flew by. We hope that you'll come back. We're obsessed. Klila needs to teach you how to dive.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yes. I'll teach you how to breathe underwater. We'll go dive. But also, I'll improve on the whole Filipino American snack setup. We'll get blind.

[Annie Lederman]

Yes. Seriously, you guys better bring it.

[Esther Povitsky]

Yeah, I'll make it much harder next time.

[Annie Lederman]

Where can people find more of you if they don't obviously already know? Good mythical morning every day Friday.

[Link Neal]

Yep.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah, just Google it. And you will not be able to avoid it even if you try to avoid it. If you go on YouTube, you're gonna see one of our.

[Annie Lederman]

What is. I just have to ask. What's the best fast food? Burger or fries?

[Link Neal]

What's the best fast food? I mean, we're. We're pretty big on Shake Shack.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I think Shake Shack, not the Frost. I think Shake Shack is just a little bit better than In N Out in terms of.

[Annie Lederman]

But there's.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

But I don't really.

[Link Neal]

You'll throw five guys in the mix there.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

But yeah, I think burgers these days, there's just so many good smash burgers in LA that are not. What's your favorite for the win? Ooh.

[Annie Lederman]

Not burgers. Never say Die. That's been in the mix.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

I like burgers. Never say die. But they're doing like fancy McDonald's thing.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah, I like.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

It's good. It's very clean. But I like the one that like the burgers coming out of it. And there's sauce.

[Esther Povitsky]

What about Heavy Handed?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Heavy Handed is my second favorite.

[Esther Povitsky]

Okay.

[Annie Lederman]

What's the best fries though?

[Link Neal]

McDonald's.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Yeah, it's hard to beat McDonald's french fries, you guys. Yeah.

[Annie Lederman]

Wow, I hate to hear that. I really do. I don't want it to be true because I don't want the best fries to just always be available.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Oh, yeah.

[Annie Lederman]

I want there to be something better that's harder to get.

[Link Neal]

Well, you gotta. You gotta eat them fast.

[Annie Lederman]

That's true.

[Link Neal]

That's. That can help you out.

[Annie Lederman]

That actually helps me.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

If you're on the east coast and also soon to be out here, they're building a bunch Bojangles French fries.

[Annie Lederman]

I've never even heard of it.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Bojangles is like. Like it's kind of the Popeyes of the East Coast. And they do this like fry seasoning on their fries. Yes, it's real good.

[Annie Lederman]

Okay, last question. What's your guys in and out order?

[Rhett McLaughlin]

Animal style double double fries. Just plain fries. I don't do double animal style fries as well.

[Link Neal]

No, I do animal style fries and then I do double double with onions, no tomato. And then I have to remove every other onion ring because that's too much.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

It's a whole disc of onion.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah, I do admit that I like that. But you already know that I have smell issues. Do you guys get. You don't get your fries well done?

[Link Neal]

No, I prefer the opposite.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

But I will only eat the In N Out fries if they're fresh. Like really right after you get them. If they have to be delivered or whatever. There's something happens to an In N Out fry. That's not good.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah, well, it's. Cause they're, like, super fresh.

[Rhett McLaughlin]

They're super fresh. They're too fresh. They need that. McDonald's, like, won't rot for six months.

[Annie Lederman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, how if you were probably. If you were buried, like, in your casket with a McDonald's meal, like, and exhumed 40 years later, the McDonald's meal would just be sitting there perfectly fresh amongst your skeletal remains.

[Link Neal]

That is not an exaggeration. That is absolutely proven. Somebody, some guy in Finland or something just, like, tastes a burger.

[Annie Lederman]

My people, I'm half finished. Okay, we gotta go. We love you guys. Thank you. We'll see you next week with a brand new episode.

[Link Neal]

All right, I gave you an out. We finished.

[Annie Lederman]

Wait, we should have talked about fast food, like, the whole time.